They're Underneath the Cabin! | Indiana

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0:55 It's going really good, buddy. Thank you for having me absolutely and you've told me a bit before this. Brian, You're going through a lot of things in an area that is very intense, and I'm just thankful to have you on the show today so you can share what you've been experiencing. But I want to make sure that we have the time for you to share, and we may not even get through it all in one episode. We'll see. But Brian, I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to you. Feel free to take us back to when this first started, happened, happening for you in what you are experiencing in this location.

1:40 Okay, Well, I'm going to start off by the first experience that I've had, and this was back in ninety three. I was deer hunting his bow season and I was in Scott County at this time, in the Austin Bottoms. It's a marshy woods. I was climbing out of my deer stand. Is getting real dark, you know, starting to get real dark. I couldn't see the little saplings anymore, and there's been a big bucking area and I've been trying to, you know, get that bug. So I waited till close to dark so I could sneak out. I was about a half mile back in the woods and I hadn't got out of my stand and walked maybe twenty feet and I started hearing walking. So I sat down at the base of a tree as been like, I'm just gonna let this whatever it is, walk on by, and then I'm gonna get up and sneak out because I couldn't see anything. And so I sat there probably five minutes. There'sn't some kind of rustling around on the leaves, and then all of a sudden, to my left, it sounded like it was right up on me, but I'm thinking now it's more like probably ten twenty feet away.

2:42 I hear this loud scream. I mean it started out real deep and it went got real high pitch. By the time it got real high pitch, I donet jumped up, said, you know, I'm done with this. It took off a running. I mean I ran out of the woods, and I'm not. I don't get scared easy. I've been in the arm for over eighteen years. You know, I've been all over woods all over the United States. I was in the infantry. I've done I've been in the woods. I've hunted my whole life. I have never heard something that loud and that powerful where it would shake my organs. I literally felt like a vibration going through my body. It's like being in somebody's car. It had real loud base and it just every time it thumbs, your whole insides is shake. And that's what it did to me that day. Well, I needless to say, I never went back. I never went back here to get my deer stand or anything.

3:28 As far as I know, that standing is still strapped to the tree. And I quit hunting that area altogether. And that was back then. I'm not saying it's a bigfoot because I didn't see anything, but I'm telling you, man, the power that it had the lung capacity to shake me like that, it's in the back of my mind for years that it could have been a bigfoot, but I never heard of one in that area at that time. So we're gonna push on up to twenty twenty one. My son and I were gold panting up and around the Medora area in Indiana, and this creek had a lot of geolds and black sand. I was hitting the Bedford cracks trying to get that black sand out and painted, and then I just kind of stood up one time to turn around. Looked in about probably fifty yards up the creek was something squatted down in a jet black I mean, just as black as black and me and it had looked like fur hanging off of it everywhere.

4:28 And I told Peyton, my son, said hey, there's a bigfoot joke. I was just joking with him. And he looked at it and he said, we gotta go. I was like, no, come on, man, it's probably just a tree stubbers, and he said, no, we need to go. So he must have seen something a little different than what I was looking at. But you know, we left because he was He just was adding about leaving after seeing that. And I went back again, probably like three weeks later, to that same area, and it was on a pant some more and I looked ober and that black thing was gone. It wasn't there. So I thought, well, that's strange, you know, now that I look I took pictures of it, and now that I look at the pictures, I zoom in on as, oh, wow, there's hair hanging off of it that they was covered in hair, you know, and just squatted down trying to hide. But it was on the edge of the bank on the creek, you know, and I was in the creek too, so I seen it, you know, I just couldn't see its facement of just this whole left side of its body. But now that I know, I started going back and looking at the pictures. Yeah, it probably was a bigfoot. And I never really was a believer. My son was one of us at the time, was not a believer in Bigfoot. He just thought the whole thing was a joke. So fast forward again, twenty twenty two. I buy a cabin with ten and a half acres and now it's surrounded by woods, you know, all all the way around me. I'm close to the Who's your National Forest, Ohio River And we bought this cabin and man, it's just me and my son and he was nineteen at the time, so we're we model

6:00 right off the bat. So the first week we were there, my son wanted a deer hunt, like the next day. Then after the first time we stayed there, he wanted a deer huntings it's still deer season. So he walks back here one early morning before daylight, and he starts texting me saying, Hey, I'm hearing some hit trees back here, and I'm like, what are you talking about. I said he was the trees or something smacking the trees, And I told him, I so, well, it's probably just a wind blowing. It's so cold, winds blowing and the trees are probably hitting each other making a popping noise. He said, no, there's zero wind. There's no wind blowing at all. And I said, I don't know and need nothing. So he hunted, and he said every time he went out there that week he would hear that. And you know now that we got going on, what we got going on, He said, that's the same stuff I heard while I was dear and just sound like somebody taking a ball, a wooden ball bat and smacking a tree real hard. But later that I hadn't got the bed put together, like I said.

7:03 We were trying to remodel while we were living there as we moved in, and I was sleeping on the couch one night and had the window cracked in the living room, and uh, the window was right above the couch, and I kept hearing these howls, and I'm like, what in the world, I've never heard that before, And it just it's like right outside, right on the on the back of the cabin there probably you know, within fifty feet of the cabin, and these weird sounding screamed like howls, but they wasn't long last thing. They would just do it like short blasts. I thought, well, maybe it's a red fox or something, but it didn't sound like a fox. I just assumed that's what it should what it could be. I never thought bigfoot. So what that happened? That night?

7:48 And then about probably the next morning or the morning. I think it's the morning the day after five o'clock in the morning I would have. I was doing work on the flooring. It was five o'clock. I went outside through the garage and opened the garage door, just kind of stepped out and get some fresh air, you know, on stretch, and I seen up in the trees this green glowing light. It looked like an orb about the size of a volleyball, and it was going up and down sideways, I mean, zigging around, doing all kinds of stuff. It would hover for a little while, then it would shoot down, and it looked like these little gases would shoot out of it, out the sides of it whenever it would move, right before it moved. And I sent her watching it, and I was recording it with my phone, and I sent you a video of it. And there for a few seconds after just watching. All of a sudden, something above it flash real bright red and it lit up the clouds and everything, and then that green thing just would move and move around a little bit more and then was just gone. So I went in the house, thought that was weird. I've never seen anything like that from life. But I would see a lot of lights out there, a lot of orbs, these big long rods that my security came would pick up, these bright rods.

9:02 They were probably about three foot long, just shooting through the air. And I'm talking, you know, ten feet eighteen feet off the ground the way I have my camera's positioned. But I would start hearing whistling when I would sit out on my deck on the side. My cabin is built on these big wooden pillars, and it's built on a hillside and down the bottom of the hill there's a creek. It runs right through there, you know, and I'm kind of like in a valley there. But I would sit out of my deck. It's ten feet in the air, you know, off the side. That's where I always go out and sit, and I would hear whistling out in the woods. I'm like, well, who in the world will be out here in the middle of the night whistling. No, I didn't see any nights. I would whistle back, then they would stop, then nobody would whistle again, and I would tell my son. I was like, man, there's people out there whistling, and there's nobody lives back there.

9:52 There's no houses back there, There's you know, hundreds of acres. So I just thought somebody I was just trespassing and didn't thinking us of it. And then we would start hearing them, like these knocks, like somebody hitting the trees. It sounded like with baseball bats, just pow pow. Then I would hear footsteps walking, like heavy footsteps walking off, and then a couple of seconds later I hear another pow. I was like, oh my gosh, I mean somebody's back here destroying. So so I would go out there the next day and look, and I started finding all these Like when I first bought the place, you know, I searched the whole woods. I looked at everything, and then I went back. This was probably two months after living there.

10:39 I went back in the woods again just to investigate the walking and the popping. You know that somebody hitting trees and stuff. And that's when I noticed all these structures being built. They were like sticks in against trees. One of them it looked like a cage, like they took all these cedar limbs and build it around this cedar tree, and it looks like they made some kind of cage or something or hideout. I don't know, And uh, I just thought that was really strange. I took a lot of pictures, you know, of all the structures I seen back here. And then as it got into spring, we started hearing these trees falling. I mean literally within two days, we had five trees get that fill. And I thought that was really weird. I'm like, because they would fall in a genuine area, but they weren't like one would fall hit another one and then later that other one, you know, ended up pushing that one down.

11:31 All these were like you could hear hear cracking and popping all of a sudden fall hit the ground, real real out dud. Like I said, five of them in two days, but we had a total of eight fall since I've lived there, And I've walked out to my truck one day one morning and I heard a tree start popping cracking. I could see it on the backside of my cabin. You know, when I looked over the roof, I seen the tree falling in the landed across the creek. I thought, wow, I've never seen a tree falling person, And I just thought that strange is about that time. That was about the eighth tree that fell. And so I got, you know, left, and didn't think no less of it. I just thought, man, my trees are all dying, and let me see here. I'm gonna turn my page. Okay, now we're gonna skip on it said June of twenty twenty four. That's when stuff really started getting crazy. My son and I, like I said, we were hunters. We'd like to shoot our guns and stuff. And I was.

12:30 I would always sit out on the deck, you know, like I said, it sits up real high, and I would set the little targets out on the other side of the valley on the hillside there, and I would shoot my twenty two it's the little targets. And after doing that for about two or three days, because I would just got them to shoot around, I enjoyed it. We started hearing the wood knocks real close to the house and then they would come up and smack the side of the house really hard. Let me back at I had just got a Yorky dog, and before when all this started happening, I'm probably only hading well. The night that I got even we started hearing all the mocking and stuff and the noise and everything, and so I would set out my Android phone on the porch to record. Overnight I was picking up these sounds of like rocks rolling on the floors the boards of my deck.

13:25 It would just roll across it and pick up and start tap on the deck, and then the rocks would roll across it again. And I've got plenty of recordings of all this. And then it would they would take sticks and just tap on my deck. And I think what they were doing was trying to get my dog to run to the patio doors and you know, so they can sing. But at the time I didn't know what they were doing. And that continued for about a week. They would come up and smack the side of the house. I mean they would hit it so hard it would it would wake me my son up, you know, Peyton to come to my rooms. Hey, something hit the house. I say, yeah, no, I just heard that. But at the time I thought, well, maybe a tree limb fell and hit the house out the overhang or the roof of the back deck. And I thought, well, maybe a limb.

14:13 Check in the morning, I would go out there and nothing. It was nothing. But I knew it wasn't nothing to hit the roof because it sounded like it smacked the side of the back of the house really hard. And that done that two or three times, smacking it. And uh, we just didn't think that, you know, we didn't know what to think, actually, and we were sitting on in the living room or oh no, I'm sorry. We went outside to look and then I found some tracks on the back behind my building. Back there some footprints and I thought, oh my gosh, this is crazy. And I didn't know what it was at first of all Bear I said, there's no way it's a human, you know, that's that's way too big. So I just didn't think enough seven.

14:59 Bi, I do a be right back. After these messages, and that evening I seen my very first one. I was sitting on the deck and about sixty yards away, once this big black thing stood up. It was almost dark, but I could see the silhouette of it. It stood up and took the tree is about thirty inches and it was wider than the tree, and I thought, oh my god. I told Peter. They said, man, what is that? He was I can't see it. I can see something black, but I can't tell what it is.

15:47 I say, I don't eat. I don't know what it is either. So I started recording it with my Android, and it would like hold onto the tree with his left hand and lean way out to the right. I mean it was almost sideways, leaning out so far, and it's holding itself up, but it's left hand on that tree. Then it pulled itself back up, and it just kept doing that, going in and out behind the tree. And I couldn't, Like I said, I couldn't tell what it was. Even on my video, I couldn't really tell what it was. But what I did, like the next day, is I would screenshot the video as it's playing. I just kept screenshotting it, and then I seen pictures, you know, still pictures of it of the video straight up bigfoot. I mean, oh my gosh, my heart and everything me dropped to the ball in my stomach. I was like, WHOA, what is this? And I showed it to my son and were just like we were scared. I mean, we didn't know what to do. Never in a million years that we think we'd see something like that, let alone in our end in southern Indiana, in our backyard. And so we started trying to get a hold of people to figure out, you know, without looking crazy. And we finally got a hold of Indiana v r O, the big research organization, and they talked to us and stuff, and they were going to come out and meet us. So I told Peyton, I said, well, when you go out there and look that print again, that could be his print.

17:08 And I'm thinking there's this one out there, right. So we go out there and I look. I said, man, I want to cast this. So I got some stuff to cast it with, and while we were sitting there, Peyton kind of walked up a little bit and he was just like standing about twenty yards from me, and I was sitting on the ground right by the cast. I was packing everything up in my backpack, and then I heard this noise. We both heard it and we both looked in the same direction. But when I as before I could turn my head to look, I seen it on my peripheral on my left side. Down the hill we had. We have a lot of a lot of undergrowth there, probably about three four foot tall little bushes and trees in the woods there. And I seen something duck down. I seen the shoulders the head that had a light gray face with jet black hair, and the hair was sticking up all over its head, and it duck down. And I looked at Peyton, said, Peyton, I see one. It was only about twenty yards from me down the hill. It was trying to hide in the undergrowth. And he said, nope, no, raise his hand up, said I'm not ready to see when it starts walking off and let me out there. So I stood up and I got my phone out, and I looked at it, and I said, I could see you because he had his little index here and thumb holding a sapling still, like just pressed up against the side of a sapling, just holding it still so I wouldn't move. But I could see I could see it. I could see its spear and thumb. So I took a picture. As soon as I took the picture, one further down the hill another twenty yards stood up from behind this big wall of leaves. I mean it was a big one. I don't know if it was a male or female, but

18:39 it stood up and all I could see was the bridge of its nose up to the top of its head, and it looked at me and it would look down at the little one. It would look at me, and it just kept doing that. And I'm like, yay, now that I know you're all here, it's okay that you're here. I'm not going to hurt you, you know. And I told him, said, look anything on the side of these pink grim on the trees over on this side, you're safe. Nobody's gonna bother you here. You're more than welcome to be here. And I said, I just casted this print. If you don't want me to have it, smash it. And I'll know you don't want me to cast them. And so I went on into the house. Next day we go out there to cast. Well, I'm gonna back up, because when I woke up that morning, I took the picture of it, and I, you know, I, me and him looked at it and looked at it. We couldn't believe what we were looking at, Like I said, like I see was the forehead of the one and the fingers of the other one that morning, at five o'clock, I had a vision in my head. I was asleep.

19:37 I had the vision of that big one, the face of it, you know that's behind the leaves, Like I had my picture. It just flashed and my ear turned on. It sounded like a speaker, like a buzzing of a speaker or a like just this weird buzzing noise, kind of like a uh, electric wire, you know what I mean. There's a kind of buzzing. And as soon as that started buzzing, I heard the word wagum. The real deep voice said wagum. And I woke up. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I thought somebody was in my room and said wake up. You know. It sounded like a man and said wake up. And then while I was laying in bed, nobody was there. I was like, wow, that was crazy, it's so real. It sounded like somebody was right here.

20:20 But I said. They didn't say wake up. They said wag them. And I kept saying wag them like three or four times. I said, what in the world was that? But I just thought it was a dream, you know, And I thought the experience I had the evening before have seen them just really affected me. And uh so I got the living room and Peyton come in there. And we had, like I said, we had the little Yorky and they've been tormenting that poor dog. I mean they would pack on the windows, the doors, the deck. The dog was so scared that he slept under my bed. He used to sleep on the bed with me, and then he started sleeping under my bed. He wouldn't he wouldn't come out unless I got up to leave. The n's when he would come out from under the bed. Well, I was in the living room. I was gonna feed him, but he was standing under the coffee table. He wouldn't.

21:02 He wouldn't come out from under it. And he kept walking around all stiff laid, and he was like moving his head realed down real slow, sniffing the floor, and he would raise his head back up. And the Peyton came in there, said, hey, no, there's something wrong with with Easton here. He's not watching me. And Peyton tried to get him come up to him, and he wouldn't. He wouldn't leave the coffee table. And I told Peyton, I said, well, just shut the door, because you know the patio door. I said, maybe some's out there. He's sensing something. He might be smelling because he knew they were there. Like I got videos up and looking out the window and barking and drowling, and there's nothing out there that we could see. Peyton got up, he went to go slide the patio door shut, and then all of a sudden, we heard this loud screeching scream from under our cabin. Because, like I said, our cabin's up off the ground and it's all open down there. But we heard this loud screech like scream roar all together and once they just did it, and it lasted for about three seconds, and Peyton went out and he shut the door. You know that he kind of scared him.

22:03 Him and me both we're like, what was that? And then it scared Easton so bad that he stood there and poochd himself, and I felt really bad. I only had Easton for a week, so we cleaned him up and I told hey, I had to get him away to somebody. So I called her friend and she took him. Peyton left and took Easton there, and then when Peyton got back, he come in said, I've been there's a really bad smell outside. I said, yeah, I know, I've been smelling too. I don't know if it's suoner or what it is. And we've never smelled it before. And the smell after Peyton said that, the smell was gone within probably ten minutes. That was the only time we've ever smelled him was that one time. And then that's because they were right up under the house. But anyways, I gotta get my notes. Yeah, after we got rid of Easton, the activity at the house stopped. As far as them hitting the house or trying to scare us, I don't know if they were. Somebody said they were trying to intimidate us to see what we would do if we would come out shooting or you know, move or whatever. But we didn't really ignore them. We just we just what can you do? You know? But I would hear laughing, like I've got recordings of laughing like a baby laughing, and rock clacking and these woo sounds, you know, kind of whispery woo sounds down the down the creek. Let me see here. I think that I

23:38 think the only reason they made another reason why they made their stuff known, like I said, it was because I was doing all the shooting. See like the the BFR come out, not the BFR OL they came out later, but the Indiana BFRL came out and we walked the woods and stuff. We found prints they cast it to and we've seen a really nice one but it only looked like a maybe a juvenile size about twelve inches, but it was real wide, but it wasn't deep enough to cast. But he noticed these structures that I didn't even notice. I mean, he was telling, yeah, this land didn't come you know, it's been forced here, you know, on the ground and up on the tree, and see where it scratched the tree where they forced it down.

24:23 And we found other structures back in the woods that I didn't know was there. So they He did his little podcast that evening and he was like really happy about what he's seen. And then uh, we had another group come out in September. It had a be a far old member and a lot of other researchers that he invited from different states and they all came out and camped. We had a psydecheck out there. They camped for four days and or four nights, and the last night we had a bonfire and we were all just sitting out there talking. Bayton had some friends over, you know, we were all just out there talking and telling them stories.

25:03 And I kept hearing something behind me, and one of the researchers, you know, he was hearing it too, and so I would take my phone and see if I could scan the area and get a picture or but I couldn't see anything on one video, and so I put it on photo, my iPhone fifteen, and it wouldn't and I don't know how, but it seasoned the dark and it picked up this portal and nobody you couldn't see it with your own eyes. It picked up a portal and something walking through it, and I took a picture of it, and well I showed it everybody, and they were like amazed, like where'd you take this picture? And I was, you know, thirty yards from us, right there by the trail. And so they all were happy to see that. And they end up, you know, leaving after about five days of being there. And then I started noticing these things in the trees, these lights, and they had the metal some kind of metal top with a red light and they're stuck real high up in the tree. About thirty forty feet up in the tree, and I would when I noticed it, I would take a picture of it, and then I would let you know.

26:14 My friend one of them the research as lungs. I've been in contact with him ever since they've been out there, and I would send in the pictures and he's like, go out and take another one. So I go out the next thing and take another one that's gone. But I did this like four times, and four different times. It's four different lights in different trees, but they were all the same light, just different positions. And then I started to things other things. When I would walk the trail and come back, I would notice a new nest. They're like they built this great, big, massive, long nest out of tree tops and they had these lights or not lights, but camera looking things strapped to the trees. There are literally be straps on them. There'll be like four or five of them out there circling the nest.

26:56 And I thought, man, what is that. That's that's nothing I put up, and it's never been here before. But once every time I notice them, the next day they're gone. I wouldn't see them again, but I still see the technology every now and again. I get pictures of them and the bigfoots are holding some kind of white cube with a black line going through the middle of it. Sometimes I've seen one have a round one and it looks like a round security camera. It just a round white ball with a black lens in it, and they would hold it in their hand and hold it towards me, and they would look down their arm like kind of like in trying to stay in line of sight while they're holding it towards me as I'm taking their picture.

27:42 And I don't know if that's something they're using to distort my camera or on my phone, or or if they're looking at me closer to that. I have no idea what it's for. But I've seen a lot of them have that, and every time I go to take a picture, I might get one and a picture of them without holding that thing. But the second picture they're holding a debt like they're just they're like they're gonna try to zap my phone or something. Because they have that. My androids so much that I can't I couldn't even use it anymore. It would literally just switch pages or tabs. It would just swipe like on its own side to side or that it would glitch you out and have lines going all through it. So I end up just not using that head to buy the iPhone. Like right now.

28:30 They they don't even make an effort in hiding. I see them every day, especially when I burn trash. I go out there and they just they they'll raise up out of their nests and look at me. There's some nests I'll count, you know, and you work from ten to fifteen of them. But I've gotten over a dozen nests out there in my woods, and I had it logged. I'm sorry, right before June twentieth, before I seen the first one they I just had it logged. I take that back, is after June to twentieth. Right after June twentieth, I had it logged. And that's when they got all the tree tops. They start dragging these treetops into the clearing of the woods there and make these huge giant nests out of them. There's like little ditches, they're kind of like rain runoffs, like groove down into the ground.

29:22 I call them drained ditches, but it's natural from the water running down the hill towards the creek. But they would build a nest right over top of those. It's just kind of to me. I think they dig them out even deeper and they just lived there. But they're building like they build a new nest today that I've seen this morning. It's just crazy on how many they're building. And I've counted probably over one hundred of them there at one time during deer season last year. I think ever since I told them they were safe there, they got the word out there every other one. Big for society who would be right back after these messages.

30:15 But not only did they tell the other big foots, there's dog Man out there too. And I've seen dog Man quite a bit. I was real close to one one time. I went to the dumpster to burn some trash, and I'm assuming he was either by the building or by the dumpster, and started walking off as I was getting closer. He was about probably twenty yards from me when I noticed him, and I was like, oh my gosh, I gotta get a picture of this, because I seen his whole backside as he's walking back down the hill. And I took a picture, and right before I took it, he had turned his head like sideways to look behind the over his left shoulder and he knew I was taking his picture, and he had like his mean look on his mouth, you know, like he was growling. But he was extremely muscular, real short hair, real thin at the waist, but his arms and shoulders and back was huge.

31:05 He did have a tail and plenty of years in the snout. And I never believed in the dogman. I didn't know what dog man was until you know, I witnessed my star Wins. I seen him out there, and I've noticed a lot of dog man after that. I've there's probably several different ones that I've seen out there, little ones, big ones wanted looked really old, but he was a real big barrel chested and real small waist and skinny arms, jet black. Those are the ones that scare me. I'm not scared of the big foot. The dog men scare me. I'm intimidated by him by the looks. They just look at you like they're gonna eat you. But I've never every time I seen one, there's always a big foot right close to him, except for that one that was walking down the hill. And I also got a picture of that same one that was walking down the hill another time. He had this white thing on top of its head, and it had like these blue, blue and red lights going around it, and right above his head was like an upside down rainbow. And it's really weird. I don't know what it was. I mean, I sent you one of the picture. I sent you a picture of that. You know, I have to check it out, but it was the back. But he had this thing on his head and an upside down rainbow, and it's like, man, they've got technology. And a one of my very first pictures of them are like probably the third picture I've ever taken, was an alien I call Little Yoda. He was standing on a vine, and

32:37 he was wearing a gown, some kind of gown. You can see through it because I could see his legs through the gown in his feet. The gown was like wrapped up under his feet. But he was standing on his vine. And then on the other side of the tree was a bigfoot sitting there messing with some limbs. And as I look closer at the picture, you know, later on down the road here actually recently, I noticed that little Yoda had another little Yoda right above him that had the some kind of looked like burlap pulled up over his head where you can see his face and like he is wrapped up in it, and I don't where the bigfoot was. I noticed there was several more bigfoots further back, you know, above him, further back up the hill, and I'm like, wow, I didn't even notice that when I was just so fixated on that one little Yoda, and I didn't even notice all the other details. But that's not the only one I've seen.

33:28 I've seen him a couple of times. I've seen another little alien dude that's you know, maybe twenty inches tall, that had like a bottle shaped head. The back of his head come out to a point. I'm not really not a sharp point, but kind of it just kind of domed back and tapered off, and he didn't have any clothes on, and he was he would lean up against the tree and blend in with the tree. But I can still see his outline. I've got pictures of him. You can see where he's outline. It's the only part that wasn't blending into the tree was where I had a side. He had his head turned sideways, his mouth was ticking out. His mouth just looked normal, but the rest of them was blending into the grayness of the tree and like a bark pattern. But I mean, you can see his shoulders, his head, his arms, his chest, his muscles, everything. And then there's another little alien thing.

34:19 I don't know what he is. He's got real long, skinny arms and legs, and he's got looks like a beak for a mouth, big black almond eyes, and he's probably only about ten inches tall. And the reason I know this one so well because I know it sounds crazy, but he was in my room. He was standing on the side rail of my bed when I woke up one morning. I looked. I grabbed my phone and kind of was looking at and I just kind of looked down and he was standing on the side rail of my bed, right beside my legs. He had his arms and his head above the mattress. And as soon as I seen, he noticed that I seen him, he looked down to his left at the floor, jumped off and under my bed. His head hit the box spring in my bed where he's running under so fast. I was by myself at this time. Peyton wasn't living with me during this time. He had a place in scum screen. Anyway, I jumped up and screamed, what are you with? You know, I was cussing and like, what is that? It took me a minute to get the courage to run out of my bed to run into the kitchen to grab a flashlight. And so when I went, I went and did that. I came back and I laid down in degreezeway there where I could look to the right around the corner in my bedroom door, and I was shining that light under my bed and I was looking. I was just I didn't walk back in my room. I just kept shining the light looking for and I didn't see it. So I shut my door and I went back in the living room. I didn't go back in my room till that night, you know. And I really searched it once I got the courage and calmed down.

35:48 I really searched my room. And I did not see anything after that. But I know it wasn't dreaming because I seen it. I heard it run. I heard his little feet run on the wood floor, and I felt it hit hit you know my box bring underneath. They hit it pretty hard. But I look, man, I didn't find it. But I've seen that little thing several times, you know, I've got pictures of multiple pictures of me, and I told her I went outside. Now people because the research said, hey, talk to talk to them. Don't they understand what you're saying. I want to just say, look, I don't. You guys can have these woods. You can do whatever you want out here. You know, we can share it. You know where, this is your home, I said, But don't go in my house. My goodness, I said, if you want to come up and talk to me or see me or whatever, let me know, wait till I'm awake. Don't do it while I'm asleep and I wake up and see you there, I said, Just and then, you know, and I've never I've never seen him in the house before. But I forgot to mention right before that happened, about a month before that happened with him in that little an dude in my house, my son has a room. There's a big long hallway. We just built his room and there's like a sixteen foot hallway goes down through there, and we haven't put up this door yet. We just had like where the door would be one in for his bedroom door at the end of the hall way there, and we actually had Easton at that time, because Easton was in his room with in that room with him. He said Easton woke him up because Easton was on the foot of his bed growling, and Peyton said, he rode over to look, and he's seen the shadow at the door. He thought it was me.

37:19 He was dad, you know, he a dad is at you And it wasn't me. I was in bed asleep, and uh. He turned the he turned the light on and it was gone. There wasn't nothing there. And he told me about it that next morning. He said, I thought it was you. He said, you were a hunker down he was. He was as big as the doorway, all right. I thought it was you. But you were like, hunker down so your head wouldn't hit the ceiling, he said. But it was real big. It was so big that it had to turn sideways so his shoulders wouldn't hit the walls. You know. When we were telling researchers that, and I thought Peyton was his dream and he thought, well, maybe I was, But I don't know why Easton was staring at him growling until I turned the light on and it was gone. The researcher said that sometimes big cook can come in here house like that. I don't know.

38:02 I never seen it, so I can't. I have to take what my son tells me of truth. He's seen something and whom we don't know what it was anyway, after that, you know, and then it was just our normal sightings. Like I was. I would stand on the back deck, like I would see him in the nest, but I would just wave at him. And then I had one sitting there waving back with the skingers. I got a picture of it. He's all black with a tan thumb. I sent you a picture of it, and you just use big old thumb. He wasn't using his hand to wave. He was just taking his fingers going up and down, waving back at me. And that was the first group that was out there. I think that group has moved on either they've left, like because they had a baby, him and his mate, they had a little baby. Because they would show it to me. All the picfits out there would hold up their babies and show them to me like they were so proud. And so I know now that my area is a birthing area, and what they'll do is they'll have a baby out there and raise them. So they're so old you know, and so much an age or so maybe certain strength to them where they can travel, and then they'll leave.

39:12 They might be there a year or longer, and then once the baby's are, you know, good traveling age or whatever, they take off. Because that one group that I seen that was kind of always friendly to me, they would I've not seen them in a while now, for months. But the one thing I was saying about wag them. It just popped in my head when it said wagum in my dream, probably two days later, I would go out on deck and when I open the door and go out and sit down to the little table there, I would hear one out in the woods. It went aglem. It said the word that was in my dream, and screamed it. I thought, oh my god, that's the same thing I heard in my dream. I can't I couldn't believe it. I thought I was not crazy. And until I heard that, I said, they really did say that to me. And my friend was over. She was sitting down on deck with me, like two days later, and I wanted to get something drink and I come back out.

40:11 Then I heard it say it again down in there, the same It sound like a female and went what egom And I said, oh my god, she was what was that? I said, that's what I heard, you know, on my dream that day, so it must have been mine speak. I don't know, you know. They've mine spoke to me more since then, not really so much mind speak. It's more of a pictures like quick flashes. And then I had one that I had a friend stand out there and I told her to not go out in the woods by yourself, don't walk the trail. And I had an eight foot wide trail that I could. I actually had made a road through my woods, a dirt road that goes to my field out back, and I used to always drive further. I don't do anymore because they've blocked the trail where I can't drive back there.

40:57 They was just drag treetops and to it. They drug us one big giant tree top there and blocked it and I said, wow, I was telling Peyton, we're back and looking I said, I'm I have to get the saw come here and cut this up. I don't know why they would put it right here. And the next day it was gone. They moved it further away so it wasn't blocking the trail. Anymore, and I thought, man, that's crazy. I took up before a picture and after of that big tree top moved and but anyway, the one that yelled wagelm. That just proved that what was in my dream, or what I thought was a dream, you know, that it was true that I wasn't going crazy, because I thought that day that I heard it that morning that I was. I really thought somebody was in my room. But when they spoke to me again where I told her she wouldn't allowed to go back in the woods, Well, I got these visions and I was awake.

41:49 I was not I wasn't home, but I was in you know, a different county, but I would get I was getting these visions like flashes. Then I heard the words like no good or something I don't know, talking about her. But it showed her walking the trail, her a little dog in my woods, and I thought, wow, I told her not to go in there. And I don't know how I'm seeing this, but I asked her about it, because I made it real clear not to go on my woods, and she said she never would. When I asked her about it, she just kind of looked at me, like, how do you know, you know, because nobody was there but her, And I said, because they told me she was. I we just meet and Marry just walked back here to her little dog, you know.

42:30 We just walked back here a little ways and we came back. I said, well, don't do it again, but she she did. She wasn't there very long, so she never did. But another time I got a vision of them. I would used to. I used to set out peanut butter cut them jars, and they would take, you know, unscrew the lid and heat it and put the lid back on it, or leave the lid off, or sometimes they would take the whole jar. And but I was one of what they were were doing with the jars, and I got like this vision in my head one day of the jar but it had water. It was empty, but it had water in it. So I was thinking, oh, okay, they're telling me that they use the jars the drink out of So I would set them out there, you know now, And because I've asked them before, you know, could you bring the don't leave the jars in the woods the trash, And they sent me that vision of a jar with water in it. So I was like, okay, yeah, the alien things. There's a lot of those out there.

43:38 They're different kinds, but they made I was told they were little people. I didn't know what little people were until the researchers told me. But what I'm thinking of the little people are the ones that look like little bigfoots, because there's some out there there. I'm talking inches tall. I've got so many pictures of them. I got fascinated with them for about a month. That's all I care to take pictures of. They built this nest like thirty feet from behind my lean to building, and every time I go out there, I would just like take pictures of them. They were only inches tall, and I know it sounds crazy, man, but I've got pictures to prove it. And there would be these little ones they just look like miniature bigfoots. But then those are the ones I think are the limp people, and the other ones that I think are alien, they straight up look like aliens.

44:28 I've got a picture of one. There was three of them together, and he was holding a walking stick head and knee high boots with a little cape on and like some kind of gray shirt. But he was staring at me and there was a little smaller one behind him on one side and another one on the right side, and they were just staring at me. I think, you know, at the time when I took that picture, I didn't know what I was taking a picture of. I was just before all this happened, in twenty twenty three, when I would walk in my woods for some reason, I would take these random PI pictures and nothing, and I don't know why. You know, When I get my calm that night or the next day and I looked at it, I was like, why did I take a picture of this? You know, it didn't make sense. It's like I'm taking a picture of leaves and you know, on trees and there's nothing there. And it wasn't until after all this stuff started going on, I started going back and looking at my old pictures and that's when I noticed, you know, the one with the cape and the walking stick and all these.

45:23 Other ones big for society, who will be right back after these messages. There's one little little he was probably only maybe seven eight inches tall, and he was standing on the top of a snake. The snake looked dead. I got a picture of that. I'm like, he's wearing his funny looking hat, and I thought, what in the world, you know, what is going on out here? But there there are the alien dudes out there that I call them little Yodas because that one kind of reminds me of a Yoda with the with his little gallon on or whatever. But he wasn't a great He looked like a gray alien but with tan skin on the big on them. But his eyes were more red than black. They were they had a red look to him, like the lenses were red.

46:28 I've seen a lot of the eye shine. The eye shine's real. We would set out trail cameras because they would have so many, so much activity by my lean to building. They would go in the building and I think they would get into my dumpster. So me and my son put out trail cameras and ever since we did that, they quit going around that area. So we took the trail cameras down and then they would go to that area. And again, I have a security camera that I would set on my deck out back to face the back out backyard and down the hill towards the creek. And you've got a couple of pictures of him out there off that security camera. That's where I got a lot of the flying ominees or like the long white rods and some other things that were real long that had like wavy looking fins on the sides from the front all the way to the back right white and my orbs. I gets a lot of orbs in the security camera. But one day, me and my son are at my daughter's house in a totally different county.

47:23 We're seventy miles away. My security camera that sets on the decks set on this magnetic base and it doesn't come off that base. You know, you have to pull it off, but the base is wasn't bolted down or nothing, so it's just sitting on my railing. The camera starts slowly rotating backwards and it's pointing up towards the treetops instead of the creek at the tree tops. And we get me and Peyton, we get notifications on our phone and we could look at the video. We're like, what in the world. And I thought, well, maybe a dog or someone was walking on the deck and maybe stepped on the cord and it tilted it back. But Peyton's like, no, there's no way because that magnet is really strong. You could shake that base after that camera will not come off.

48:04 You got to use force to twisted. And then five minutes later we both got another message from the security camera box or whatever showing the video of the camera slowly lifting up, then turning sideways, and slowly coming back down onto the railing. Couldn't see nothing else, didn't hear no sound, and we thought that was one of them little things out there just messing with it. And you know, once I started noticing them having technology of these little cubes and round looking things, they got one one of them's got a round and almost looks like that security camera. I think maybe they were picking up checking it out to see if the same kind of stuff that they had. I know, I know this all sounds crazy, man, but they definitely got technology. I got a picture of one that had a leather satchel. I'm guessing it's a leather the straps going across the big foot and it's going across his chest and going up over his right shoulder, and it looks like like a leather satuel under his left arm, but you can see the buckles and everything.

49:05 He had padding on his shoulders on his left shoulder too. Some kind of padding or something. And after I seen that one, I say, you know what, I know, I'm not crazy. This picture proves everything that I've been saying. And but that's the only time. And I told him, I said, I wonder how they carry all their stuff around those cameras. But whatever those cubes are, I'm not sure if they're cameras, I don't know what they are, but they got to be carrying around somehow. And I've not seen them have any pockets in their fur or their hair. But that after seeing that, Satuel, that and that, you know, I took three sequence pictures, one right after another. When I had that one with a satchel, I took one picture he's looking dead at me with the satchel one I can see it his day. The next picture he's kind of turned sideways a little bit like quartering away.

49:49 Where I can see is more of his left shoulder going where his chest was. And then the third picture he is completely sideways with some kind of white round ball up by is left temple, and it's got like a beam of light kind of coming out of it, almost like a smoke. And that's the technology that I'm talking about. Not all of them. I've not seen them all have it, but I've seen the majority of them have that technology, and it's just crazy and like and still today when I see them, as long as if they know I'm taking pictures of them, they pull that thing out. And I told them I wasn't going to take any more pictures because sometimes when I take pictures of them there, they look really mad, like like it's hurting them almost. So I've talked to some people and they said, yeah, we were, you know, we've always thought that because every time we take a picture it looks like they're in pain. So I kind of calm down on taking the pictures and I won't take one now.

50:51 And I said, it's going to be a really good one, and that's the only time I'll take any more pictures of them. And that I'm used to here, I would take a picture every time I seen one, you know, just take as me pieause of it as I could. But now I don't. I just wait till I think it's a good one, then I'll take it. But when I bring out my big can, I bought, you know, a Nike and Peen nine fifteen. It's got two thousand millimeters zoom. I've used that camera. I'm out of my deck. You know, that thing can reach out and touch somebody. But when I go to take a picture there at the beginning that I would get pictures. But the more I started using that camera, they just won't show their They wouldn't show themselves. They would hide, and I would have that camera out there and just wait, you know, for a couple hours and I see nothing. So I quit using it and I just use my cell phone.

51:37 They don't seem to hide. They almost like stand up out of their nests and kind of look at me, see what I'm doing. And now you know today or like I took that one picture today, I got a really good one of the nest. It shows their face real good, their ear, their ears. I've never seen one with their ears, but this one had a big, long, huge ear. It was flat up against your head. But the only reason I take that picture because it was a really like I said, I'll I'll only take them now if it's going to be if it comes out real clear, it's ninsent time. I've got thousands and thousands of pictures, but you know the majority of them are blurry, and I don't understand why, because I could take a picture of the same distance and that'd be clear as a whistle, But you put on them in and it's blurry.

52:22 And I don't understand how they do that. Maybe they have the technology where they could do something with the electromatic field or something. I don't know. I think that's about all I can talk about today. Brian. You've got some incredible stuff going on, and it sounds like it is. It's happening definitely current day. I mean this is really recent stuff. Some of it. Oh it's every day, you know. Like I said this morning, I took that one, you know, hundred yards from the house. But they built the nests at the side where they can see I got two patio doors. They built these like three or four nests out there where they can see directly into my patio doors.

53:11 Oh it's crazy. I see them looking at me, and I mean they stand out. They're just so now when the leaves come, I probably won't see them as easier. Right now, when there's no leaves on the trees, they just stand out because they're so black. Definitely have some questions for you about what I've been listening to. So it sounds like most of when you're trying to capture things, it's using a camera or a cell phone. Have there ever been any times when you've been able to be successful capturing video or is that just a thing where it just does not work.

53:52 Well. I tried on my nik in camera. I try to videos, but for some reason, they don't move. It's like they know, Like I have one mid wave. He was there was a young one. I would say he was if I had I guess a year. He was twelve years old. And his face looks completely human. I mean it's it's not it's a it's either a really light gray or tan face and hand and stuff. He's covered in black fur or hair. I don't call it fur because it's hair. And he had his arm up like like he's like waving at me. But when I went to take a video of it, it just thought he froze. It's like he knew but his arm in hand was still there. And I want to add the screenshot at it because I put care on him for a while and he just wouldn't move. So I want to had this screenshot and I need to send you a picture of that because you just see his face plain as day, his arm is his hand. It's just wild.

54:50 I mean. The reason I know it's hair because when they used to give me, they gave me a chainsaw wrench that was a rusted that I could be in the woods for many, many many years. It's all r And I had this like three inch long black hair, one single hair strand of hair, split stuff to it, and I took pictures up for I took the hair off. I took the hair off with tweezers and put in the ziplog bag. You know. They left rocks and other things, a feather and all kinds of stuff. And I used to give them. This new group, they don't give me anything. They don't wave at me. They'll look right at me. You used to I go, I say, hey, can you do a wood knock for me? Then't know you're still here and boom, like seconds later though would knock. This new group don't do anything. They're just like I wave at them so I see you and I talk to them.

55:32 They just look. That's all they do. They don't they don't try to associate you with me. It is it is quite. It's it's wild, the stuff that is happening. On this property. Have you talked to any neighbors regarding this or do? I guess do you even have neighbors that are all around your area? Yeah, I've got neighbors. You can't you can't see their houses for mine because the woods are in between and you know, my our main role out there's a gravel road. But I would walk up to my neighbor up the hill there. She'd been there since seventy nine. You know, we have caves on the property too, And she said, I've never seen anything, and I showed her footprints. I didn't want to scare because she's almost eighty years old, but she's she's a pretty pretty smart woman. You know, she's she's got it. And she's like, oh, I would love to see one. She was, I've never seen. I've been here, you know, all my long, pretty well since the seventies and late seventies, and she's never seen it.

56:30 Her son's never seen it. I thought, well, I don't know how long they've been here. I know they've been there since I moved in, but I don't know how long they've been there before that. Well, let me take that back. When I bought this cabin for some reason. I mean, there was an early lady lived there. She actually passed away in that house, I found out after I bought it, you know. But she had these ludging lights all the way around it. Powerful powerful lights, even underneath it. Because I said, it's up off the ground. It's about twelve off the ground on one side and four feet off the ground on the other end. But she had these lights. And when you and a neighbor across the street said, yeah, she every time every morning I get up with her work, she'd had that place a lit up like fort knocks. It just everything was lit up, and I thought, wow, it's crazy. I don't know why she had all it. He goes, I don't know.

57:16 She was just an older lady and was scared. But I think it's because she knew they were there, absolutely, and that's why there were so many lights. Oh yeah, she was gone. Yeah, and she just didn't tell them, Bonnie. When I talked to my other neighbor down the road, he said, he's he's been there for about ten years or so. He said he's heard of people talking about him, but he's personally never seen one. But I showed him, you know, some footprinted casts and pictures and he's like, wow, you know, I try not to talk to everybody because that they look at me like I'm crazy. And even when I'm showing them pictures, they were like, yeah, well you know you're crazy. So I don't tell a whole lot. I only told a couple, all right, you know, mentioning it to a couple of them. Yeah, and.

58:00 That that is a really it's a tricky thing, right because on the one hand, you're experiencing these things that are just simply incredible, and you want to make sure that you know your neighbors are on your side and aware of it for their safety. But also like if something happens, you guys can work together, right, But I've I've told people things that have happened to me and and you know, you get that that weird look. But I think it just gets to a point where you just have to be like, you know, I can't control how they react to this, but you know, some people, you know, you just gotta you just gotta share. But I do realize it can affect you know, job jobs, and and sometimes it gets very tricky when you're you're sharing things like this, which is why I'm even you know, incredibly thankful for people such as yourself, Brian, for coming on the show. You mentioned you talked to you know a few bigfoot research organizations, but have you also ever talked to any anyone law enforcement or I'm not sure what the equivalent of forestry workers are in your area that forest.

59:16 Yeah, okay, yeah, I thought there was a bear, a brown bear out there whe day. I sent you a picture of it. I was on my back, I walked around the side of my garage. I seen that out there and I thought, man, that looks like a brown bear. So I took a picture of it, and I sent it to a game warden because I thought, you know, there's bear. There's a bear out here. He must have swam across the aw River. It didn't look like a black bear or you know how a black bear could be brown in color or cinnamon. This looked like a brown bear from way up north. And I sent a picture to the game warden and I was talking to him. He was a really nice guy, and I said, I want to talk to you off record. If I can't, he goes yeah. I said, if I send you some pictures or something, can you kind of getting your input on it. He said absolutely. So I seen the pictures that I thought was a bear, and I sent in some other pictures of Bigfoot and the dog. I had a really good one a dog man. I said that to me, and I hadn't didn't hear back from me.

1:00:12 I mean, I never heard of anything back. Like a week went by and I messed. I texted him because he gave me his cell number. So I texted him and he said. I asked him what he what he found out about that that looked like a bear to. Him or not big for society? Who will be right back after these messages? He said, No, it's not a bear. He said, we don't see tracks in the snow or anything. It's not a bear. And I didn't think it was a bear really either because I went out looking for tracks. I didn't see any bear tracks. You know, I carried my pistol.

1:00:57 I mean, I didn't see anything like to the bear. So what it must have been now that I think about it, because I've seen them wearing look like fur coats. I mean, I know it sounds weird because they're covered in hair, but the females aren't. Some of the females that i've seen, don't have that much hair on them, Like they're all gray skin, light gray skin. Some of them are ten and some of them are calico looking like black and tan, like their faces would have black blotches. I sent you a up close picture of a female. Her face is kind of calico looking with the skin color. But they hardly have any hair on. And I've seen them. It looked like they had fur coats on, black fur coats with a hood that they put up over their head.

1:01:42 And I've seen multiple of them wearing this, even a big male. There's one out there. This is going to sound crazy, but everything I told you sounds crazy. I was walking the trail to my field and I was looking for prints. I found, you know, a few prints in snow, but I found one, I'm telling you man. It was almost thirty inches long and sixteen inches wide at the whitest, and it had a over a I think it was like almost a six foot stride from the other print, and only seen the two. I didn't see anymore but those two, and I didn't go in the woods looking. It was going across the trail. My trail was eight foot wide. It was stepped on one side and then about six foot over I measured. I've got good pictures of the tape measure the measures I can't remember off top of my head, but I think it was like six foot in between the strides or the footprints. And I measured that one. It was thirty some inches long and sixteen inches wide. And I know it was with the one that I seen one night when I pulled in my driveway. Like I said, whenever I pull my driveway, if I go to town and I come right back, they're back there waiting for me by the Lean two building. I'll see them standing out there, and I would take the phone and take pictures of them.

1:02:55 And there's this one my Lean two buildings ten foot high highest point, but on the other side, as it's because it goes downhill, it's about it's more than ten foot, it's probably eleven and a half. If you're drawing the backside of the Lean two to the top. There was one standing there behind my Lean two building that was four to five foot taller than my Lean two building. He had his left arm stretched out across the top of it, and he had this red light, glowing red light in his hand, but he was standing there and you can see his face. He had teeth. I mean you see his teeth. And all the other ones that I seen had blocky teeth, didn't have no no canines.

1:03:36 This one had two. It looked like canines, but they were sharp. They were sharp looking, and he was smiling. But he had the hood put up. You can see his hair, but he had like his hood pulled up over his over his head. It looked like a fur coat. I sent you a picture of that one too. You just looked for the one that's got the red light in his hand in my lean two building. That's the one I'm talking about it. He looks like he's about fifteen six seen foot tall, so I'm assuming he's the one that left the big thirty something inch prints. I've seen him. I've got him in a couple of pictures, but I don't see that often. I was bushlogged and I feel back here last year, and I've seen him standing up on the edge of the tree line further up the hill, because there was two down the hill on the backside watching me through the woods. I seen them too. I got a picture of them. Then as I was going back up, I seen the big black one and he was massive. I mean, you know, I said, fourteen fifteen foot tall. He was just huge. But I also there's a local police officer that I met the American Legion, and I was talking to him about you know, hey, have you ever heard of any bigfoot or anything like here?

1:04:43 He just started laughing and said no. So I showed him a couple of pictures. He said, well, I don't know what that is, but I have never seen anything like I heard anything around here. You know, that's the only too long enforced. Consider that's that's very interesting. That kind of thing makes you wonder have you ever experienced anything on your property? Do? I guess? Do you know what infra sound is? Are you aware of that? I don't know what it is? But are you talking about being sapped? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Have you ever experienced anything like that? As far as like, yeah, all the time when they're when they're not happy with me, they sat me, okay, what it feels like to me? I hear it's dealalering with other people, but with me, it feels like there's a thumb above just behind my left ear, right above it, and a index finger or a middle finger on the other side. And it's just squeezing like a vice and then the pain will go up, you know, the pressure up to the top of my head, and then when I'll get out of the area, it goes away. Like me and my son are walking the trail and I was talking about cutting this one tree down. We went around the curve and we're almost to the field. I said, yeah, they because they pull these trees out ball root balls and all. I mean, they just drunk them round of the ground. Some of them are huge, like it would take heavy machinery to really pull those things out of the ground like that, but they just pull him up and move him around and tow him down. Well, this one was real close to the edge of the trail, so I'm gonna have to get my saw and cut that up. As soon as I said that, I started getting this pressure on my head. And you know, at

1:06:14 that time, after talking to all the research and stuff, that's what was happening to me. I was getting sapped, and you know that happens a lot. I had, you know, after we logged the woods, I tried to stop the logging, but I had sold the trees to the guy the year prior, and I offered a bomb back and he didn't want to. He wanted the timber, so I had to sell it to him. And because I found out they were There's why I changed my mind about selling it to him, Because I found out they were living there, and uh, I tried to buy the trees back and he was just nah, and I just want the timber. So that's what it was, and they got mad at me. I was sitting in my deck one night and I was talking to Peyton on the phone and I seen one just on the other side of the creek. He was probably about forty yards away. He was standing behind a tree that was way too small for him, like most of his body and his right arm stuff was on the left side of the tree, his head and part of his left shoulders on the right side. I took a video and pictures of him and everything. But he was happening me hard. I mean he was. He was really getting me, and I was. I got so unnerved by it. I felt I felt doomed. I felt like something was bad was gonna happen. And this was two days after the woods was logged, and they had been gone for that whole week. When they were logging, and they just kind of think they come back that night and seen it and they were like, what happened here or whatever, and but they were mad. That one was really mad. I went in the house, shut the

1:07:45 door and shut all the blinds, so I want the house. I was on the phone my daughter and my son. They were say, Dad, just come to Telly's arm my daughter's you know, and stale night tonight. Don't worry about standing up parents Like nah, I'll be okay. And I heard it real close to my deck and went woo. Did it three times, real loud, and I was like, oh my gosh, it's just wood. And soon as soon as I said that, it was in the backyard on the back side of my house. Did it again. And I just felt like, oh my gosh, I got to get out of here. So I I all I did. Man. I told him I was coming, you know, and I was freaking out. I've never freaked out before, you know, and I I'm not I don't I don't get scared easy. And but that night I was scared even more so than the first time I seen the ferry first one.

1:08:30 You know, this that was a different type of scare. That was like, oh my god, they're real. This night was like I'm in danger. That's how I felt. I was in danger. I grabbed my keys and my glasses and my wallet, and I went out. I didn't want to go out the front door because my truck was too far away, so I went through the house and went out to the garage. And when I went, when I opened that garage door, is it was going so slow? Open it up? I was like, no, we'll go faster, go faster. As soon as I got up where I could get up under it, I tug off man I ran. I hit my mirror so hard on my left shoulder of my truck, I'd, you know, shut it all the way back and I jumped the truck hit my garage door, and I was out of there. I didn't feel right until I got about twenty miles away. All that feeling went away. That was the worst time I've ever been sat by him. It was just such bad dread, feeling like I was in danger. But it's never done that since then. I mean, I think they were just upset that the trees were gone, that the woods were logged, But now I think they were happy afterwards. They ended up saying, hey, well, we got all this stuff here to make nests with. So they drugged these treetops all because when the guy logged it, he made a huge clearing, probably about one hundred one hundred yard clearing, and on the side of the hill going towards the creek. They drug all these treetops down there and stacked them and put them where they wanted. And they they put them right over top of the little like I said, drainage valleys where the rain water goes through. It's kind of dug out, and it looked like ditches through there, but really big dishes like three foot deep, you know, probably six foot wide at all these tree tops over them

1:10:01 and they're living up under there. I got one picture one of one the little Alian guy in the tree, the one that was in my room, and just to he was in the tree, but just to the right of it on the ground looks like a big sheet of metal that has these events in it. Now that's never been in my woods before. And I say, you know, like I said, i sent you the picture. Maybe you might be able to see it later on, but it just looks like a big sheet of metal with vents and it's over it's in one of their nests, and it's like over top of them. Like the little drainage thing goes through there. I don't know where they would have got that at. I didn't have any metal like that in around, but they were trying to hide it with leaves stuff like that.

1:10:45 Any any of the researchers or other individuals that have come to the property, have they also been zapped before zapp as well? Or is it just you? No? Well, no, there is a psychic that came with him and me and him that he's never experienced sasquatch or anything. I said, I'll walk back here with you and me and him just by ourselves. The trail, I mean, it's it's a pretty it's just a dirt road. It goes along all the way along the ridge all the way back to I mean pretty good far, like almost a full length of the ten acres, and then it curves to the right and goes into the field other you know, seventy five yards.

1:11:28 It's year in the field. After the curve. He was feeling okay as he was walking back, but by the time we got to the curve, he started feeling real nervous. Like he said, he's feeling really strong energy and I couldn't feel anything, and so we kept on walking. We went out to the field. We went on down to the corner of the field where we had some deer stands and stuff, and he walked in the woods there and he didn't want to go in there. He said, I feel it's too strong. So we were walking back and we could hear one parallel walking us. Like every time we'd walk, it would walk, and it was freaking him out, and when we would stop, it would stop. It was it was freaking out so bad. Like his left hand and his speartips just kept tapping, tapping his chest where his heart is. They just kept tabbing real fast.

1:12:15 He was nervous. His legs were shaking. I say, man, they're not going to hurt you. They're just falling us. They're trying to see who you are. I said, introduce yourself and tell them why you're here. You know, as I was told, they understand English. I don't know personally, but I have asked them questions and they've you know, asked them to do stuff and they've done it. So apparently they do or I don't know if they understand English, but they maybe they understand what I'm thinking and they can read it that way. Anyway. He told him that he was there just to you know, learn more about him and stuff like that, and he felt a little bit better as we got back around the curve. It's only right there on that curve from the curve to the field is where he had the bad feeling. And once we got back to the curve and was turning the left the head back towards my cabin, he felt better, you know. And I want to tell you this one thing while it popped him ahead, because as we turned back was walking back, we you know, I thought it was really weird that a big deer just took off.

1:13:09 It was right there on the hedge and it ran right into where they were. Me and my son were sitting on the deck. One day in about one hundred yards out, a fawn comes running out from the brush. It starts running down the trail there and it's you know, we we looking for its mom and it's just squalling, going crazy. And then it went across the trail into the other set of woods over there, and I just kept doing it. It just kept, you know, we we and then about probably a couple of minutes later, the a doe comes out from the same spot that the pond came out. But this dough was bucking. I mean it was bucking like a like a horse bucking or a bull, you know. It just kept throwing its leaves up and bucking around. And I told Pa, we were looking at it, what's wrong with that doe? I thought maybe a vine was caught up around its legs or something, and it's trying to get it unhooked. But when it turned to the right, it was missing its whole right legs, shoulder and all completely gone. And it was fresh because you could see the white meat and the red and the blood, like its leg just got ripped off. And I thought, what the world is that? And then the dough it kept bucking around and ended up going right back down to where it came from, like it just didn't know what it was doing. And uh, the faun, the fawn stayed in that same spot till the next day.

1:14:27 We kept hearing it, you know, making the same wing noise, looking for its mom, and after that day we never heard of their seeing it again. So they must have went and got the fawn. Afterwards. Well, I've never seen them eat any animals. I've never found any kill, never found any bones. Well I have found bones, I found vertebrates, but they were like, would be one here, one there? Nothing, you know, like a kill sight by any means. But I've never seen them. I've never seen them eat anything other than what I've left on. You know, I'm not seen him eat it. But they would take apples. They would take the peanut butter and popcorn. They really like popcorn. They don't like bananas as far as I know, They've never ate a banana.

1:15:09 Big for society, who would be right back? After these messages? We took out. I took out a big ham, like a whole leg of ham. It's unprocessed as a fresh ham. I deboned it and me and my son took it out there and we dumped down and there's blood everywhere from the ham and all that, and it was just laying on the snow. It was gone next day. They really like cinnamon rolls, a little semon mini rows without the icing on it. They couldn't even buy my Walmart like a little plastic container. They love those. I had one one time. I took a picture of it is down.

1:15:58 There's two of them inside this nest, and he was smiling ear to ear holding up a beer can, holding it towards me, like, hey, look at this, Like I told him, son, I think he wants beer, you know. I got a picture of it. And then one behind him was like had both his arms end up on the log behind him, like he's had his arms up leaning on it, and his head was being down, but it looked like he was snickering, like laughing at the other one from holding that can out. And I got a really good picture of it, and it looks traded like a beer can to me. And so one day I said, a pizza and a six pack of beer. I don't drink personally, so I don't know where the beer can would have came from. They would have had have got that somewhere else, But I said, I went and bought a six pack of beer and a pizza, and I set it out on this log back here where I always see him when I come home. I set it back here and they never touched it. I left it back here for a couple of days, but I just thought it was funny. They was holding up a beer can like I said, there's certain things they will eating, certain things they won't touch. And one time I mentioned to him, I said, hey, I don't mind feeding you all. I really enjoy it, I said, but don't get mad at because you know, if I can't do it every day or once a week, I just because you know, I can't afford to keep doing this every day because food's expensive, right, And you know, ever since I said that, they don't take any of my food anymore. It's like they it's like if they take it, they're taken from me. That's the that's the vibe I get.

1:17:23 So anytime I offer them food, they don't take it. Ran That's that's amazing. My goodness, Wow, you have something really special going on at that property. A hundred it's special, dude, It's one hundred percent special. Yeah. I one of the researchers for BFROL said that I had more activity here than the Skinwalker ranch. It's pretty well home. But it's I think it's because I see him every day. And I asked him and said, do you ever hear if anybody interacting him as much as me? He was never in forty years and never. I would see them every day and get a picture of anytime I want. Are you keeping a journal of everything?

1:18:07 He has told me that about a dozen times. Yeah, you know, I when I was in the army, I got injured. I right, so I got TBI and it's hard to remember stuff. So you know, I should start write, making draw I was making this one, just making notes here, and I was having a hard time remembering. But I need to get my son with me, because he's been there with me ninety percent of the time of all this stuff happening. You know, I just have to say, hey, look man, we're going to do the best we can, start from the very beginning and just make the journal, and then from here on out we just put in it every day, stay on top of it. But it's not like it every day that I have any account. Like I'll see them, but I'm not gonna write my journal.

1:18:48 Hey I've seen twelve today, you know. Only I only write down stuff that if they interact or do something like throw rocks or whatever. Like I took my THERMOI out a couple of to go and took one laying down in the creek by the I have a cup about three bridges. He goes across the creeks out there, and he was by the second bridges kind of leaning down, trying to hide, trying to make his little self look small. But he was a juvenile. I mean I see his round head and his shoulder in his back. He was just down in the creek kind of bending over. But he was, like I said, at juvenile, you're You've mentioned that you have audio recordings a few times. Are those available anywhere?

1:19:34 On my phones? I have rock clacking, I have you know, wooing, laughing, the rocks going across the deck. I got a real out roar one time. It's like raw and then that echo. I thought it echoed after it did that, and the BFRL guy said, oh, because he cleaned it up and everything, said, oh, that's a second. That's a response rar that you hereafter as I go, well, well, but it sounds like it sounded I mean like a lion and something on an elephant together hoaring it just so it just sounded mean whatever it was. Well, hold sorry, hold on, So it's it actually sounded like a line in a in an elephant combined together.

1:20:20 Yes, yes, yes, I'll send you that. I'll send you that. That video I got on recording from my because when I was saying, I always setting my Android out there to record for hours. Yeah, I have hours and hours and hours of recordings. So I've not even listened to yet because after listening, after about two or three hours to listen to it, you don't want listening where. I got things to do, No, I get it, get to go back to finish it. I always forget to go back. Yeah, you know, like I've got recordings that I've not listened to yet, So I one these days I need to just sit down now. I got a group of researchers, the same group that came out the last time. They're coming out next month, uh, staying for about a week. I told them they should do it before the leaves come on, uh, just so they could see them, because once it leaves, you're not gonna you have to pretty much walk up on them. And so I've got you know, them coming back in April. So hopefully they'll get to see see them like I do, because I've seen them every time. They said, just sit in the truck in my driveway and have a scope or something. They're going to see them at this Wow.

1:21:23 I mean yeah, if you're able to. I would be extremely interested to hear any recordings that you've you know, if you have like clips or you know, I would love to listen to anything. It probably would be a little bit easier on my side. I don't know if if you're able to email them to my email at a big fust Society gmail dot com, but we can. You can also send them to the same text thread. That's no problem either either way really works. But I can try. I'm not tech swabby guy, but savvy guy. But I my son will help me. Will have to cut them down as like I said, I don't know. I tried to do one myself and I end up deleting the whole thing by accident, so I might have to get my son. I mean, I'm we're just doing on my phone, my laptop, my stuff. So Payan says you need to new iPad or not iPad but mac book, and let me do it for you.

1:22:20 Just kind of break it down in sections with the parts that you want to hear, so you know, listen to hours and nothing. But yeah, I've got tree knocks. I got a video on me going back here and say, hey, would you do a tree knock that you know you're still here two seconds later, paw, big tree knock. I've got that on video, and I've got I've got me doing a video walking through the trail and then one o'll do a wooden knock back behind me, and I won't acknowledge it. I stopped and I kind of look that way, but I don't acknowledge it, and I'll just keep on the video. But yeah, there's a lot of that stuff. It goes on there. The woos wait till you hear the woos and the roar is the only I got. Some loud house are long not loud, but long house. But you could barely hear them because they were really back in the woods back behind me. That there was over one hundred acres on the backside of me, you know, so they were way back there. But they were in some long like maybe ten to fifteen second hours.

1:23:11 They would do like three or four and then stop that. It's been winter time, so I've not been outside that much in winter. Been in the spring and summer. I'm out there having bonfires. And when I when I was living there by myself, when Peyton moved into town for because he had a job, I would sit out there after I got off work and would have a bonfire late in the evening it's almost dark. And this was before I knew they were there. I would hear this walking all around me. I'm like, what in the world. And I thought it was a deer. Surely deer ain't come up to me within twenty thirty feet of me in the tree line here, and I thought, and it's too heavy to be raccoons. And I just it buzzed me out. So I would get up and go in the house. And then the second night i'd go out there, but I would let me faceboods and have my back towards the creek, towards the house, so I could see what's walking around. But it was so dark you couldn't see anything pass the firelight. But they were always just walking around saying, yeah, I know, now, if everyone come close, I have a bonfire, because they for some reason, are really like bonfires. I think they're just like looking at it.

1:24:14 I don't know. Every time I burn trash in the dumpster, they all puped their heads up and they'll come out. And I call them little caves because they got tunnels. They dug in my hillside. They'll come out of those and to be standing at the doorway like on their hands and knees and just watching the fire. And I got, yeah, that's why they don't want me to drive through my trail anymore of my truck, because they got tunnels going under it, like you see them on the hillside of the tunnel goes up under the trail. So I already know there's a couple of caves out there my property, but they're definitely tunneling. I don't know, I don't know what they're doing. One guy asked me, he was what you think they're out there? I said, I think they're mining. I think they're mining for some kind of mineral for the alien people. I mean, I know this sounds totally crazy, man.

1:25:00 I've got pictures to prove what I say. The aliens are there. I got the little blue I sent you a picture of a bigfoot and a little blue alien. Hughes probably looks like he's maybe less than two foot tall. He's got blue skin and a white suit on. And I don't know if the big pot's holding him or what, because the big flint's almost translucent. Like I've seen them. I've seen them cloak right in front of me, like I'll be looking at now, I go take a picture. Soon as I take the picture of their cloaking, and then I can still see that their eyes and their mouth and nose, and that the shape of their head and shoulders and stuff. But you can see through them, and it's it's weird. I've got several pictures of a little cloaked. It's just wild or in the middle of cloaking, you know. But me and my son walked back at one time to bring them some food. I think it was a big bowl of popcorn. And it was dark.

1:25:53 And as we got to the corner of the garage, going towards the lean to buildy, we heard one take off running. I think it's behind a lean to billy. He goes, Oh my god, that there was one right there. We couldn't see it, but it took off running. You can tell it was by people run going down the hill towards the creek. And you know, I was telling, hey, we got you a tree. You know, you brought you some popcorn. We hope you like it. Man. We even popcorn and sweet corn sweet corn bread that we had left orphans to and they that they divide. You can see on the other side of the log because they pushed a big tree down beside the lean to the building, so I can't go down that trail with my truck or tractor anymore. They put up barriers, like, I'm okay to stay within the barriers. I'm not gonna bomb them.

1:26:35 I can walk my trail because they on each side of the trail, they got trees lined up, laying down their sides, lined up all the way down through there. As long as I stay within the barrier, I'm and I'm good. But you know I can't. I have gone over the barrier before. I've been growled at more than once, or grunted at, not growled, but grunted like they do grunts. Especially in the back corner of my field. They built these huge huge ness back there, like we can't even use the deer stands back here anymore. They built right up close to them. So and when I tried to walk, they built a barrier to the path that we would walk to the deer stand that looks out over the field.

1:27:15 I walked back here over the barrier to go to that deer stand to see, you know about maybe taking it down because I noticed the nest. They drunt it twice and I was like, Okay, I got you. I'm gonna leave it one day. I need to get to stand out of here, and I was hoping they would get to hint and take it down for me. You don't set it in the field, but we end up just Mama son pop up blind and set it on the other side of the field. And I went out there about a month and a half two months ago, and it was crushed pushed down. My goodness, Brian, this this, this conversation has been extremely enlightening and intense and one of my favorites for this area of the country. I mean, this is it's wild the stuff that is happening in southern Indiana. It just continues to keep coming out, and I'm sure people will be listening to this and more stuff will be coming out about this area. But you know, there's a few things before we start to wind down for this episode, so I can almost guarantee that this is going to be one of those episodes like the Mark Paul from Tennessee ones where people are gonna is there a way people can can can contact you, Brian, or are you staying off the radar with this one.

1:28:46 Well, I'm not really staying off the radar, just my location. The reason I know on my location getting out is because I've had people find out where I live. I had one guy messaging me on messengers saying, hey, I could shoot one of them. Man be famous, as they say, I tell you what, You come out here and try to shoot one, You're not gonna make it out alive. There's they are so family oriented, the family clans like they I see him playing with their babies. I've walked the trail coming back home and down down by the creek and one of the biggest nests they have, they had a baby laying on It was on the log but there was snow, you know, so it was on top of the snow. But they were just tickling it and playing with it. One was holding its leg so it couldn't jump away. And and I'm like, and they were just so family oriented. I got another picture I think I sent one to you that I took a picture inside of the nest from the trail. I zoomed in, took a picture. There's a mother and there's a young one not taller sized, juvenile size, has his arms around her neck and his face up pushed against hers, and she's smiling. And then there's a young one that I've seen waving at me. That's the same one I seen way.

1:29:56 I mean, it's got these human looking face and he was sitting on sitting down, and then beside him was the dad sitting down. The dad also has a human looking face, like you would think he was just a guy wearing a costume, you know, for a costume, And he had a baby sitting on his lap and like a newborn, but not a newborn, but it looked like it was maybe a couple months old, like it could set itself up. But they are so family oriented, they all they're always hugging each other. Like I seen this huge male one time. My daughter was there and my grandkids and her husband. She was down by the nest closest to the house taking pictures of the other nest, and this big mail you know, there's a bunch of other ones behind him. He was sitting at me about one hundred yards prem her, and I seen him and I told Tony and say, hey, you guys need to get up here. There's one right there and they're watching you, and he was just sitting down, and there was a young, younger one that was had both her arms wrapped around him and her head was on the stomach. You could tell she was just squeezing and just hugging him. And then then there was you know, two or three behind him, when of them looked like it was snarling. Sometimes like they look at you like they're they're mad and snarling.

1:31:03 But there's this one and he always smiles, and I take his picture. He smiles ear to ear. I've had a you know, I've had him flip me off more than once. I don't know if that what that means the same things, but you know, if humans use it for her, but they would hold their hand up and then the next pictures like I could show a picture of their hand and the next picture of their middle fingers sticking straight in there. I've had multiple ones doing that to me. I don't know if they could. They might see humans doing that gesture and maybe they think it means hello or goodbye or something, or maybe they think they know what it really means. But I've had that many times too. But you know, my daughters, they don't come out much, and they've never really seen them, but they see the pictures. And it took my son a long time to be able to see one even though I'm staring with I did a video one time in the corner of the trail and there was one twenty feet away from them, and say, young one and look like a young female. I mean maybe a twelve year old. But I can tell it's female by her facial features, you know, because the males and femos looked so different in the face. And I told Pet there's one right there, and he goes, I can't see it.

1:32:09 I say, Peyton, it's right there. How can you miss it? And I held my walking stick up and said, look down my walking stating I'm recording some video. At the same time he goes, I can't see it that I'm like, oh my gosh. So I went ahead and took stopped the beadle and took a picture and we just kept on walking because it wooed at us to let us know it was there. A lot of times, I won't see them. I think they're over in this one area though, either whistle or wood knock or woo let me know, Hey, no, we're over here. This was before the big bunch of them came. This was when there was only like six or eight of them out there. One time, I was walking back because I always thought they were further back in the trail where their their original nest was. And as I was walking back, it's a while and they're not.

1:32:49 I don't see anything. I think maybe they left. And I was recording a live video and all of a sudden I heard something thrown and it landed like a brain, like got a log or a small stick or a branch or something throwing it and landed in the leaves, and I was like, what was that? And I stopped for a second. I was looking around, and then I heard it done again, So I started walking towards it. And then when I got almost to it, with the noise, what the noise was? Heard it throw it again and I looked. I seen the stick coming through there and it landed close to the trail. They weren't trying to hit me. They were like thirty forty feet ahead of me throwing the sticks, and they were what they were trying to do is get my attention. And I looked and they had built this big woven dome looking nest.

1:33:31 I mean it's real long, and it's probably i'd say it's about thirty forty feet long and maybe about ten twelve feet wide, and there's all these sticks and branches woven together and you could see through it. I could see him in there. Said, I got a really good baby shot of one of a new born baby, and you know, and then several other bigfoots. They got one out there. I called the old man because he's real old looking. I mean, his nose is real big, it hangs down over his top lip, and he's wrinkled real bad and got hardly no here, he's all tan skinned. Yeah, it's pretty wild, that is. That's the same day I got the pictures of the cameras and living in the trees.

1:34:11 Absolutely, I mean it's pretty wild, and that's that's an understatement for sure. But you know, Brian, we are we are gonna definitely need to stay in touch. I I have a feeling that we'll have to do an update with you in the future. But I mean, you're going through it, but you're handling it. I want to say, in from my you know, little knowledge so far, I think you're handling it in the right way, man, So you keep it up, and I hope you continue to have a good relationship with them on your property. So yeah, yeah, I think I will be. You know, I think the only thing they don't like me doing out there is taking so many pictures, right, so I've cut down on that, you know, I'm take I don't take hundreds a day. I just if I see a good one, I'll take a good one. But that's the other night. I think everything's going to do. Like, I don't feel threatened at all, other than when I see a dog man staring at me, then I'll get I turn around there the other way. But other now, I haven't even seen the dog man babies. They look like little pigs with scounts with a dog or wolf like snouts.

1:35:23 They're just little chunky things, little short hair. I got pictures of them when I find my good pius. I didn't bring mother phone with me, and my android androids got all the good pictures because it has a better zoom on it. So the ones. These are the ones off my iPhone. The ones you sent me are not the good ones. No, Oh wow, dude, they're kind of blurry. Some of them are some of them some of thems okay, but some of them are blurry, like I've got some good pictures and I pictures of straight to see you the alien pictures. Man, you're gonna everything I say, I have proof.

1:36:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh wow, Okay. I won't I won't say if I can't back it up. Absolutely, Brian. I thank you for coming on the show today and keep us up to date with uh with what continues to happen. And you'll feel free to to send anything else over that you have on on your other phones or recordings or anything like that. But I appreciate you chatting today. Man, Yes, sir, and I said, if you want to use some of my pictures for this podcast to kind of show people as like as we're talking, is that like the lights and the aliens and things like that, You're more welcome to use the pictures on there. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that usually I said once when I'm editing, but thank you for giving me that.

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