This Idaho Guide Was Stalked by Bigfoot for Years!

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's account comes from a man with forty five years in the logging industry, seasoned hunter, a professional guide, and a trapper who knows the woods like most people know their own backyard. But near a place called Palisades Reservoir, something else was watching the trail. This account is what happened the day he realized he wasn't alone to stay with us. All right, Big for Society, You've got the privilege of talking to Dave today. Day's an individual that it got connected to over on the YouTube side of things, and Dave, it's a pleasure to talk to you today. How's it going, man.

0:40 Well, it's a pleasure to talk to you. First of all, thanks for having me on. I'm doing good. I mean, things are the weather's nice, and things are good at the ranch. So I'm ready to talk Bigfoot if you're ready. Absolutely. You know, Dave, you were nice enough to share a bit with me about your background, and I think it might be beneficial for listeners to know a little bit about your background. Would you mind sharing things that you've been into over the years that you had provided to me before we get into it. Well, I don't. It takes a lot in my background, and I'm not quite sure. I'm not quite sure everything I sent to you or we discussed before.

1:28 But I've been in the log and business. I started out in the log and business in Pennsylvania, and so I run the logging business from basically let's full of New York Orchard Park all the way down to Wheeling, West Virginia, and across half the state of Pennsylvania, and. So pretty big operation. Spent over forty five years in the logging and sawmill industry. And I was at a. Very young age, five years old when I got my first muskrat. So I spent ninety probably ninety five percent of my waking hours out in the woods in Pennsylvania, New York State, and you know, northern West Virginia. That being told, I've never even thought about a bigfoot, never had any experiences where experiences in those states.

2:25 But I got involved. I guided in Pennsylvania since I've been oh probably eighteen to twenty years old, and I bought a place that had an eight hunder acres, stayed attached good and for twenty three years I outfitted hunters and stuff like that. So I mean, I've dealt with the public. Nobody's ever had any issues with bigfoot out there that I know of. But then I got interested in Western hunting and got involved with a fellow by the name of Mike's from Jackson, and he wanted me to write a few articles for him, and so I did, and he got me over here on the other side of the Mountain Range in Duke, a place I'll just say Swan Valley and Idaho, And so that's where I live and reside today. But things changed as far as the big foot world. I mean, I was Alaska. I've hunted Alaska numerous times, never had any issues other than with sir least.

3:37 And I've been a professional hunt pretty much. My life and have taken dousands of scores of people out and guided in Wyoming. Never had any issues with bigfoot over there. But Idaho, the southeast corner of Idaho seems to have a lot of big foot activity. And I also go mine. That's another thing I do every summer. A matter of fact, I'm getting ready to go go money and again this summer I'm going up as we speak, in two days. I'm going through some prospecting. But anyhow that's led me into some bigfoot encounters. And we'll talk about that a month or moore or later and show. But so I my life has been out in the woods and but in this southeast corner by Palestage Reservoir, I've had encounters and whenever you're ready in Jeremiah, well, well, well, I suppose we'll start sharing him as is there anything else you'd like to go about my background? Well, there we go.

4:47 Thank you for sharing that, Dave. I think that's important that listeners know that in this case, you have a lot of background being in the woods guiding people, fishing, hunting. Even though we know you as Dave, you're pretty accomplished for things that you've done over the years. And I have some info regarding that to the side. But you know, Dave, i'd love to hear more about was there a certain time that you realize that there was more going on in the woods than just these animals that you were hunting as a guide. Well, I would say.

5:29 I've been out in an idahost since nineteen eighty seven, for I would say approximately a year. I've never encountered anything that I could put my finger on as out of the ordinary, although I did watch it as a kid, like a lot of us, probably listening to the what was it, Balky Creek legend of Balgy Creek, and I thought that was cool, but I never I never really gave it any thought until, like I said, I moved Idaho, and I would say things started to happening around nineteen ninety eight, and quite frankly, I ran into something that was literally amazing. They talked about this Skookum cast because I watched Bigfoot stuff. Now, I watched David Plidi's and stuff like that and reputable and listened to encounters on this show. And I find that there's an awful lot of people that I've had encounters. And a friend of mine by the name of Becky Cook wrote a book about Bigfoot and says the title reads, Bigfoot Lives in Idaho, and she devoted a whole chapter to some of my encounters and weird, unexplained happenings. I'll put it in that

7:03 way because. If I don't see. It, I don't believe it. But there are things that's happened to me that there is no explanation, because, like I said, I've been out in the woods since I been five years old. I'm going to be seventy two. I spent literally ninety percent of my even at this day and age, ninety percent of my waking time is in the outdoors. So it's it's extraordinary when something like this happens to you and you remember, is there anything else that you want me to put into that timeframe? Or I would say that that does sound good. It's interesting you bring up Becky Cook. I know she's known for writing a few books about Idaho big fil I believe she's I think she's no longer with us.

7:54 But right, yeah, she passed away here a year year and a half ago. But if listeners want to hear more about encounters in Idaho, I would recommend try to track those books down if you can. Yeah, Dave, I am. I am knowing that you are also featured in one of Becky's books, which I did not know. I'm very, very curious to hear what had happened to you out there. Well, do you want me to start from the first big foot encounter? You want me to skip around or give you the most scary encounter first? You tell me what you want to hear.

8:37 I found that. From talking a lot of people over the years, it's interesting to hear chronological if possible, because there's always seems to be a path that is followed, maybe a few different paths, but it would be really interesting to hear what your first encounter was. Okay, well, the first encounter happened. Well, my buddy George and I were hunting, and it was our typical routine. We would go out pre gone, get up in a section in glass and glass looking for big the old ear bucks, and of course not even looking at the smaller ones. But we would do that, and then about eleven o'clock the bucks, especially the big boys are all gone after twenty minutes of day late, but we'd watched in glass and look for elk or whatever until about eleven o'clock. We eat a little bit of lunch, and then we would take turns sleeping. Well, this one particular day, beautiful blue blue bird day, you know, very little wind, George said, oh, I'm going to take a nap, so about it. He would sleep about one thirty and then I would go to h take try and take a rest from one thirty to three, and we'd get up and glass till dark and head back

10:08 to camp. We used to pack in with Lamas, so we were right up. We didn't have to travel a long way to get ben at the camp. We always camp right up in the mountains where we're running. And the one particular day, I was up there and. I was just playing with a chipmunk, and because when I was a little kid, my grandma used to put peanuts in my hand and the chipmunks would come up and take a peanut and run away with it. And I thought, well, I'm gonna say if I can drink in one of these woods chipmunks. So all I had was some of these lance cheese and peanut butter crackers, and so I cut off a piece and I threw it underground, and the little chippy came up and he ate it, and the next thing you know, I got him.

10:55 He was climbing up on my leg, but he wouldn't come up to my hand. And this has been going on, and I looked up from the chipmunks. Some popped my eye and I looked down by this pine tree which was about I'm trying to figure out it was probably m forty feet, yeah, forty to sixty feet away, and that pine tree was probably at that time. Eleven foot tall. I was just back there last year and now it's probably twenty five or thirty foot doll. But anyhow, there was an elk help with a game trail, let's just call it in a game trail came out right there, and we would sit right above that, not looking for anything on that game trail, but basically looking at the There three trails down the hill and they would come out and be perfect shooting. So George is sleeping, I'm there playing with the chipmunk, and I look.

11:59 And here's this. Big, dark brown, chestnut brown things standing there. And I says, well, that's a moose. And I just waving. Have to be an off colored moose. And I looked, and. So I moved a little bit and this thing was looking right at me and it never blinked. It wasn't a moose, it wasn't a bear. It had a head that was probably I'm thinking sixteen inches wide. I said wow, and I could see I could see the one eye the corner at the corner through the pine tree. He was studying me through the branches of a pine tree. And this pine tree is about four foot down slope and I'm looking straight across at his eyes. This this animal had to be i'd say nine to ten feet tall, really, and I think that's uh anoying, over exagera exaggeration.

13:10 This animal studying me. I'm playing with the chipmunk. I'm looking at this thing. I'm dumbfounded. And the uh the guns are two guns are set against a a wind blown pine tree that day they rotted. It's all white and bleached out. They're laying there there. They're on the other side of Georgia. Unfortunately or fortunately. But I looked over at those guns, and when I look back at him, something changed with his demeanor. I don't know how to explain it in words, but the expression that I could read from his eyes changed and I was no longer concerned with the chipmunk.

14:02 I was on my butt, so I moved over closer to George. He was watching me. He didn't move, and I looked at the guns again, and when I turned, he was gone. Now this thing had had I saw all let's see the left side of his shoulder, who was probably protruding about thirty inches three foot from his head. I didn't see a neck. I could only see one one half of his head. I saw part of his nose, a good conceived part of his mouth.

14:42 I didn't see any teeth. I didn't see anything like that. But that eyeball, it looked just like my eyeball, except it was the size of a no bigger than a silver dollar. The pupil, the you know, the colored part, but in a in a big eyebrow. Uh. That's all I saw of them other than I through the pine tree. I could see part of his width, but he was turned. If he was walking up that trail, he would have been turned to the left. And he stood there motionless. But the funny part of it is when I looked at the guns the second time, turned around and looked at him, he wasn't there, and there was there was no noise. It's just like he vanished, just like puff, like a like in a I don't know a cartoon, you know, where the fairy godmother puts a wand down and puff, something's gone. And that's uh. That was my first encounter right there. And then that same year in the evenings, we heard I don't know how to explain it.

15:52 It was like an oriental language down in the pines down at the bottom of the basin. Never saw any thing. Uh, And I told George. He even commed, he said, who's speaking Chinese down there? Why are why are they speaking out loud like that? It was it was a dialect. It sounded like an Oriental you know. I'm I'm not familiar with all dialects, but it sounded like that. It was almost like words, but it wasn't words. In twice in that year and once in a subsequent year, we heard that down in that basin, and I would say, uh, that would be the extent of those of that encounter on that side.

16:38 And then I ask you a few questions about that real quick. Sorry, So this was in southeast Idaho, You said. Yeah, on the uh, being on the the western western side of Pallisage Reservoir. Okay, gotcha. Uh. So it's sounds like when you were able to see its eyeball, it actually did have a pupil, and I would take from that that you could see a white area of its eyes or was it all colored. I wouldn't say it was white white. It was more like no, but it was it was lighter than the center. Yeah, than I recalled because it's been quite a few years, but it reminded me of a human being eyeball, but it was just huge.

17:28 You had said that the left side of the shoulders three feet from the next I want to make. Sure I say so six feet across. It sounds like. If yeah, I would think so, because he was turned quartered toward me and I could see that's what I spotted. First. I didn't see the head in the eyeball. I saw that big blob which was his shoulder and his arm portal left side, and then I look. I kept looking, and uh, then I noticed the head in the eye looking at me through the trees. In other words, uh, he was screened by this pine tree. But he was looking through the pine tree, standing there, looking at me.

18:19 And I don't know how long he before eye spotted him. He was there, because he didn't he didn't just appear there. He might have been there for five minutes watching me play with that chipmunk. I don't know. Absolutely. He disappeared. And he disappeared right. There was no sounds like, there are no branches moving. It just you said, just disappeared. It disappeared, And I know he couldn't have he couldn't have went forward on the trail. It had been exposed. He turned around and went back the way he came down into the dark timber. But I but I never heard a sound.

19:01 Now you know, well that any hooft animal that couldn't the part quickly, you're gonna hear it. Now bear a mountain lion. H they put any soft foot in animal, I'll just say it. I'll put it that way. Uh, they don't make that kind of noise, especially on a trail that is groomed to be free of branches and stuff. It's well used trail. And so he disappeared without a sound. I didn't hear any big thumbs or anything like that. It was just gone. That was it. And if I did hear, my brain didn't register it. That's what I can tell you.

19:42 When did you go over to where it was standing at all to see if if they're any shacks? Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah, Because I shook George and woke them up. He says, what's going on? And I says, he ain't gonna believe this. This huge thing was just standing. He says, you don't know what you're talking about. And so I said, yeah, I'm telling you you stood there and watched me playing with his chipmunk. But anyhow, yeah, that's what. And we went down there and we looked, and I didn't see anything. I didn't know then to look for big foot tracks. Since then, I've seen dozens and dozens of big foot tracks, casted a few and whatever.

20:29 But at that time, there was just no tracks on it. It was just a thirty inch wide trail beat down with Elkin deer tracks. But there was no Elkin deer tracks right right there. There wasn't any there. It was just plain smooth redbird. And what if there was a track there, I didn't recognize it. There probably was a track there, probably numerous tracks, but I didn't recognize. I didn't know what I was looking for. Absolutely no. So did you have horses with you in addition to lamas or just the lamas lamas? Okay, yeah, And during that time where the Lama's reacting in any way or not?

21:20 No, they weren't there. They weren't there. But I will tell you a circumstance where the lamas did react. Okay, it wasn't at this on this certain situation here a certain day. No, they were back at camp. We would never take him unless we needed to pack something out, and then we would go back get them and you know, put the paniards on and get moving. Makes sense. Had you heard that? I guess I should ask have you heard the Sierra Sounds at all? Uh? Yeah, I guess I don't know. I've heard of them, whether I've actually heard him. I don't think I really actually been here. Maybe I did once or twice, but I didn't register anything to me.

22:12 Okay, it would be interesting if you were able to, like, if you search for Sierra Sounds on YouTube? Is he interesting to see if what you had heard that oriental language, if it was similar to what Ron Moore had had captured in the Sierras of California. Well I can, yeah, I'll e check it out if you. Know, Okay, yeah, definitely. Okay. So I mean, after this, this is your first experience, that's a wild first encounter. And then did this set you down the trail like man, I got to figure out what I am dealing with or it just started to come more and more into your life as you went along.

22:57 Well, I I'm inquisitive. I want to know what's going on. And it changed my hunting patterns a little bit, I'll let me tell you. And all those ears in the woods, I started looking around behind me. I never wanted to run into one chase and chase, but I did, unfortunately about three or four years later in the early Well, I can tell you what date that was. That was the opening day of mule deer season in twenty fourteen, which would have been I think October fifth. Yeah, and it was at six twenty in the morning. I remember that one because that's when that was my most terrifying encounter with one of these things. Do you want me to that.

23:49 Yeah, I would be well before we get into that. So were there any other ways that it had affected how how you hunt? Besides looking over your your shoulder? Did you start to notice things when you're out there, like anything out of the ordinary. They're like, well, maybe that's connected to bigfoot as well. I started looking for tracks, you know, I started looking in being more of asersion. I'm a tracker. So trappers, by by their very nature, very little with buying. Uh. If they if they're looking for fox tracks, they're looking for fox tracks, and they you'd be surprised. I can track it in the bear dirt I'm a good tracker, but was never the custom they're looking for bigfoot tracks.

24:43 But I saw a lot of tracks over the course of years that I thought were just big bear tracks and now off to wonder because you know, they have the tow pattern that would be similar depending on the topography of where they stpth, you know, And I think a lot there's a lot of misidentification of bigfoot tracks that are in fact hind foots the bears, or double step bear tracks double step meaning one bear track steps in another bear crack and to. Make sure look longer, wider or whatever. And so but I'm very astute in that in that realm of looking for tracks, as far as looking for scat or broken branches, I never give that much thought.

25:32 Now I have even forgot about that too. I'm it's talking to you structures. I've seen some things on Bigfoot Expedition Bigfoot They're talking about nests and structures and stuff, and I actually run across to structures and I have a picture with my buddy standing inside of one, and it's and that was the experience we were I think we were putting bear bait in and that's when I actually cast the track was in the spring of a year. I said to him. I said, well it smoke. Stop the truck, I said, big grizzly come down across the road. Well, it wasn't a big grizz it was a big foot. And so I ended up a cast the track the next day, and that's the cast I still have today in my possession. But I've seen lots of tracks, a lot better casting tracks too. But I don't carry plaster or pairs with me when I'm out, so I don't sure. Yeah, you know I'm not gonna walk away four miles to cast the big foot track, you know absolutely.

26:41 I mean that that is very heavy stuff to carry in addition to everything you're carrying as a hunter. How how long was that track that you had casted? It was about eight and a half inches wide and eighteen and a half inches long. Oh wow, nice. Okay, yeah, that's a good one. And we trailed it, I said domice I said, look at it, what grass? You can see where it went down through there? His prince, he was coming down a slope, I would say, about a seven degree slope off of a ninety three angle. Anyhow, a flight slope off the road and His tracks were seventy two inches apart. I put a ruler on it from mid from the one track the middle of one track to the middle of the track, I cast with seventy two inches one more. He had two more steps across the road, and then he went down through a bunch of juniverse with some grass that was about an inches tall, nice thick grass, great grazing grass for animals.

27:50 He went down through there you could see the prince because he had crossed. He must have crossed after we went up, that is what I think. And coming back down the road later when we saw the track, we followed it down and he went down to the creek. The creek was, I would say, and this. Is interesting, this is really interesting. I'd say the crick. Was probably was running high because of the snowmil I'd say it was sixteen seventeen inches wide at that point. And you could see where he stepped on the willows turned the rock and then he jumped. He must have jump.

28:32 And I'm a gold miner, so I'm used to looking in creek beds. And there was only one rough disturbing. It was about three feet from the other bank, and it got flipped and It was a rock, probably about twenty pounds, and then you could see where he went up and he took a game trail right up over the hilk. You could see the tracks right there, but I never thought to go over there. I didn't want to get wet. All I had was hunting boots on. I didn't want to across the creeks though, But yeah, I eventually cast that track the following day. That's incredible. So six foot six foot? Uh you said seventy yeah, six foot And how would you describe the gate of what you were looking at when you were following the tracks.

29:24 Straight like a cat? Okay, your follow a mountain line is straight line, B line, you know, and that's that's what this was. One foot uh uh, you know, like a white man walks like a book. In an Indian a walk straight line, more like an Indian. It's fascinating. Yeah, so you were you were definitely starting to notice things in addition to your normal normal hunting. I am really interested to hear about what happened that opening day of Old Deer season in twenty fourteen.

30:04 Well, that was the most scarious day in my life. What happened is starting in August I usually get. Up in the high country Nyglass for trophy bucks in lo and behold this one year I. Spouted three trophy bucks. And then the one day in late August or no, it was late September, actually, I spouted I s wanted the same three bucks. They would come out. I had him. I had them pattern pretty good. I'd go up once a week and i'd last before daylight about a mile and a half away, and I'm watched these bucks and anyhow, here's some just an absolute phenomenal book.

30:48 These bucks were big. They were all over thirty inch inside spreads. And this buck that came up behind him was probably thirty eight and with teeters he was well over forty four inches. Why I mean, he was a hog. He was. He was in the top Patchelana the record books to believe me. And I said, wow, I know where I'm going to first dasses, I'm not going to bother him anymore. I got this pattern. I got to be there. So when the I hunt trophy bucks, I don't use the flashlight. You see people all the time using headlamps to get to where they're going. On If you're going to use a headlamp, these trophy bucks. They're sitting up there on their feet and they see a head lamp. They already know that jig's up, so they get into hiding right away.

31:31 And all you're doing to see in small bucks. The big ones are still there anyhow. So I walk up this trail. This trail is about a two mile jaunt up into where these bucks come out in this meadow. So I had a buddy from Pennsylvania come with me. He came and I said, well, we'll use the lights on the valley because there's no way they can see down in there, and then once we get up around the corner, its lights off. So we did and got up there, and I told him where to go. I was to just fall, and this was walking in a horse trail. I said, just go over there, about three quarters of a mile. You're just going to see a group of aspen trees. You stand there, get into the brush a little bit. Just stand there and take it easy, and these bucks are going to come out between me and you, and if you shoot, you know they're going to run up toward me and something's going to happen.

32:30 One of them's going to be laying on the ground. So we had a plan. I went up this draw. I didn't want to go out in the meadow because possibly there'd be out there or anything else out in the meadal feeding before daylight, and they would scare these animals. So I said, I'll stay out of there till shooting light. So I go up in this draw off to the left of this meadow. Been in that draw a dozen times. I knew that, knew my way around. Got up in there and I just took the gun off my shoulder, prompted the anst the tree and I'm standing there, looked at my watch. You press a button on the watch. It said twenty after six. I said, well, I got about twenty minutes and then I'm going to work my way over get out. I know where I'm going to be in the middle and cover. So I'm standing there and all of us I heard a stick, just like a small stick a quarter inch around, and I said, well, there's something there. And it was probably eighty yards for me, maybe one hundred yards.

33:38 And I couldn't see anything. It was pitch dark. I don't have a light on. I'm just standing there in the dark. This thing, this animal screams so loud and then roars and then growls at me, all without taking a breath in this hole. Situation lasted probably eight to ten seconds. It was just amazing. But it was so loud it about blew me over. I mean, when you were a kid, kids couldn't relate to this. And you went to a dance, you'd go and if you got too close to the stage, the speakers would reverberate right through your chest. That's what this was.

34:25 And I said, and I knew better that it was nothing in nature that could do that. There's no way. The volume was too great. I jumped. I'm a small person, I'm five eight, but I jumped four feet off and I was scared of death. I grabbed my gun. I ran out into the meadow that as far as I the heck with the deer. I ran out in that meadow because I figured this thing was coming after me. I ran out. There, probably about eighty yards into the middle. It's wide open, just a little bit of sage brush. And I said, well, if that thing comes out and it's coming after me, it's going to have five shots in it.

35:12 Because I'm a. Pretty good shot. I don't miss very much. And for the first time, in my life, which is I broke the cardinal rule. I put my safety off my gun. I was so scared to death, and I was ready. I said, I'm not going to bunk you around. I was ready. I had my safety off my gun and I didn't have nothing to do that. And I've never done that, and I've never done it since. But I was scared to death. And the thing never moved that I know of, until about ten minutes later, and I heard three little pine sticks. I don't think they were a quarter inch, but I could hear it moving up the draw. It would have asked about forty to fifty feet from where I was standing. I could tell. I could listen to it walking, but I couldn't see down in there, because, like I told you, it was a ravine. Now, why did this animal scream? I asked myself that question. Well, the deal is is until the sun comes up and warms the hillsides, the thermals run downhill. That's why hunters time and time again make a mistake. They always walked the top of the hills before the sun's up and warms the basin. Well, if you do that, everything down slope, he knows you're up there. They don't have to see you.

36:39 This bigfoot wasn't going to go out in that meadow. He was crossing over. He was doing the same thing I was doing, using that ravine for cover, except there I was. And then he got a whip of me. So I scared him for her as what happened, And that's why this screen and then that roar was I'll react, I think to get mad, and Nagraul was I'm coming through and get out of my way. To me, That's the way I interpreted it and believed me. I got out of his way as fast as my little legs can run. I run right out in that metal and up over the bank of the ravine and out in the meadle. But that was the scariest encounter in my life.

37:23 And to add to add to that, that was about four and a half to five miles from where my first encounter happened. And the track I cast was directly in the middle of those two encounters, down next to the road. So it's interesting, you know, to. Say the least. And my buddy that years later, a matter of fact, only about five years ago, came out human and I told it the same metal. I said you stand here. I'm going to make a mile and a half two miles pass through member here if there's something in there, all booted out across the middle. Well, when I got out there, he broke my cardinal rule. He wasn't where I told him to be, And I thought, where the hell is done at? And God was no where to be found. I thought, well, I'm going to walk up to the top and get a better view. Maybe I can see him the spot him someplace. I walked up to the top and here he comes, and he's all excited.

38:27 I says, what'd you see? What'd you see? He says, you got to come down here, You got to come down here. I found a big foot track. I said, what jah? He says, I found a big foot track. So he was up there looking for me because he was so excited about the big foot track. So he says to me, he said, you got the laster of Paris in your truck, Go down and get it. I says, it's three three miles down at from where this big foot track is. You want the track cast, you go down because I got to walk three miles back. That's six miles. Now he wants me walked well, in no way. But anyhow, we took pictures there. He took pictures of this track and by footprint and all that. Now that was a.

39:10 Smaller track, but it had the toes. It was a perfect track to gas. It was in uh, well, it must have rained or something, and it was it was in some mud there and it had crossed the trail and just left the perfect point. But it was about well, I took a dollar bill. I think I measured the dollar bill there on that track, and I think it was sixteen and a quarter inches long and about six inches wide. But it was bare barefoot. It was, I mean you you actually could see lines in it. I guess they call them ridges or whatever they call them, but you could see it in there. It was a perfect tractic cask but out about the wall twelve miles to cast a big foot track. But that that was the that was the most scarious incident anyhow, my big foot encounters. But I've got I've got a few more and a little closer.

40:01 So yeah, so far, everything that you've you've said all happens relatively close around this Palisades reservoir. Right, yeah, exactly, And I know where they cross I've seen I've seen twenty tracks across the dirt road in this one spot big tracks. If you go there, invariably you will in that one hundred yard section run across big foot tracks a crossing this dirt road, and it's it's they got to swim in the reservoir to get to the other side. But it's a it's a probably. Five hundred and fifty yards across there, and they go right down that steep bank and that's they go right down there.

40:48 I assume that they cross the reservoir and go over. Into the timber because there's nothing on this side other than rocks and a few junipers and buck brush that there's nothing there for him, you know. So, but that's where they go. They go down there, and they cross that every time. Every time you can look there, and if you look there and you traveled that road every day in the course of a from I would say mid May to mid October, you're going to see big foot tracks probably two or three times in there. Wow. That's that's incredible.

41:29 And I'm not the only one that's seen it seen them there. You've heard other people that I've also I. Know personally other people their sons. They've run. Actually, they they got scared out of their fishing. One time they took a boat across and they got scared out of there and things were haulerned at them. So they had to get in a boat and leave right before dark. Oh wow, it's it's crazy how this is also pretty close to the Wyoming border, right. Yes it is. Wyoming is at the upper end of Dallas. Day's reservoirs want valleys at the lower end. You know, the breastworks the dam. Itself, right, you know, I've I've heard some bigfoot vocalizations in Oregon. I know what it did to me physically when you heard those? Did you have any physical reactions?

42:26 I guess you did. Mention that it was like you were standing too close to speakers at a concert. Did it affect you in any other ways as well? Or is that the main way? It just scared me. I couldn't normally for three or four years, I had to stay out in the open where I could see. Normally, I go right in no timber and still I love to stay and I sneak up on animals all the time. But after that, I think I actually have to mean I stayed out in the open where I could see if something was coming. I just because I humped by myself a lot. Sure, So I just.

43:08 Be honest with you. I was scared and it took me a few years to get over. But yeah, I've had in this year. Let me see how far would it be as the crow flies about a mile and a half I would have met maybe yeah, about a mile and three quarters from where my accounter happened, and the Bigfoot have been gone over next country. But I can tell you stories of outfitters that have had clients that paid a lot of money to go on and they wanted to leave the first day because they right where I put my friend by the aspen trees. They were there the first day elk season and Bigfoot started throwing stuff at them.

43:51 And these these guys uh there from out of state. They got so scared, so we don't care what we want to leave now went back and that they want to off. The outfitter came back with his group of honors, and these guys they said, we're out of here. We don't want nothing to do to this place, and so they forfeitted their money and the outfitter took them out. Oh, my goodness. Wow. And and you know I'm not a. A huge you know, I'm not a huge outdoors guy. So but I from what I've heard from people, like, if you're paying to go on something like that, it's usually at least I mean, it's a it's a good amount of money to forfeit.

44:35 Yes, yes, yeah, they forfeitted their feet. They were supposed to spend a week there, and they forfeited it. They said no more. We went out. They were scared to death. And and for it's funny when these when bigfoot or more than one, which I can't substantiate, move into an area, uh, it seems like the game leaves. I went back up and there looking around after that encounter, when the snow hit, I said, I'm going to go up and take pictures into the animal tracks, this big foot track, and I said, he's up in there. I'm sure of it. Well, I know every inch of that country. I never run across the big foot track. But you know what was funny.

45:23 I never ran across the deer track or an elk track, or a bear track or a mountain track. And that is. Well, it's weird, it's not I've never seen that and I covered and miles. Okay, the only thing I saw was a couple of Pine Martin tracks and a red squirrel track and all that. I didn't even see a grouse track in the roseate entries. The first snow, there should have been tracks all over. It was a perfect day and I didn't see anything. Nothing. The place was dead. It was like I was the only living creature in ten miles.

46:05 That's really interesting. Did it affect the sounds of the forest as well when you're out there? I can't I honestly I didn't say. But on that snowy day, there wasn't a sound there was, there was nothing. I was the only living creature in that area. No moose tracks, no elk tracks, no dear tract. Unbelievable. I'm just unbelievable. And I mean I know where to look and I know where to go, and when you don't see anything, you know, no beds, no nothing. It was devoid. And the outfitter that had that place up there saw me beaver Trap and several years later, I don't know what they call bear Creek, he was coming out with a string up in that horses and removing his camp and hey, I know who you are, and he recognized my trucking. So we started talking and he told me a couple of big Foot stories and that was pretty interesting.

47:05 But he told me, he says, I can't figure out why there's no animals up there in this one area. I says, well, that's because Bigfoot moved in. And when I said that, he just looked at me. Funny. He says, you actually believe that stuff. I says, I never did until it happened to me and I was seeing it. But you know what, I got to tell you one thing about that first incident you in mind that I don't know how to explain it, but that first incantent that happened to me with the chipmunk and the crackers and the big Foot and George Sleep and uh, my memory wiped that out for years until I had a horse accident and it broke my neck.

47:49 And when it did, well, I'm lucky. To be alive and not a pair of pleader to believe me, because put my see one clean across vertebrae and uh that traumatic injury. My daughter came over to the hospital. They thought I was going to whatever, you know, but I pulled through and I don't know what brought it up, but she mentioned that first bigfoot encounter and I had forgotten about it, but I had told her about it, you know, and she reminded me, and then it all came back. There's a bell, and I remember there's a bell today, But for a period of probably eight years or ten years, I forgot completely about that.

48:37 It was removed from my from my memory. I don't ask me how why I don't. I can't explain it. But the the really scary one up there, the old deer, Honey, that one I never forgot. So I can't explain that. But yeah, that that was funny about that first encounter. And then in that same area I had another encounter. And I remember I mentioned about you asked me about the lamas, right, and so we had three lamas, my son, uh he was there, Dave Junior, and my daughter and uh, I think there was one other person in there at that time. I think I think it was waiting. And anyhow, we were camped there intense and it was just getting dusk and there was branches and it sounded like a freight train coming through the woods. And I said, oh, you guys, get your guns. There's our help coming. The lamas normally winning like horses when they're scared, and they would have normally just opened up and it would they make these shrill, old sounding winnies, I guess you'd call them.

50:04 But they just had their ears perked up and they were looking right at that steep bank right across from our camp. Well, this, this animal, which I thought was a group of animals, stopped right across from the lamas on a sidehill that had a seventy degrees slope, seventy five degree slope, almost a cliff. Stop, just stop, never moved to turn dark. I said, well, I don't know what's going on. And a couple of times I looked over there and I thought I saw dark spots, but at that time of night, shade in the pine trees makes dark spots, so I just dismissed it. Well, about one in the morning. Being an old fellow, you have to get up and do your business. So I was going to get up. I turned a little pen light on, and when I turned a pen light on, something went right by the tents. It wasn't a hoofed animal that I can that I can swear to now, whether it was a bigfoot or not, I don't know, but it was big and it pounded the ground and when it ran up that trail, it went thump thump, thumb, thump, thump thump going up that trail. I don't know what it was, but I believe it was a bigfoot because

51:38 it was on two legs. It wasn't a four leged animal. I know, darn well it wasn't. So that that happened, and that's right in the same area. Just you know, so there was a lot of activity right around that area in the timeframe of about three to seven years. There were just they were there. The fellow was to it. They were there, and the shattered that I heard, George, and I, uh, you know, I've never heard that since. And I've never heard a scream or a roar or a growl like that since. But what happened, Well, you said you want to go on chronicle logical order, but maybe I had to cover southeast iideah first, is that?

52:27 Okay, yeah, go ahead. Well last year I'm hunt Elk about a mile and a half away from there, and I'm up up and there I look over and nur's some hunters over there. They always glass this one spot. If they listen to this, they know exactly who they are and they know who's said talking here. But anyhow, i'd go up in there, and how can I call it too bold? But I couldn't see their heads and they were with dows. So you know, you just don't shooting once you're shoot your target. So I didn't shoot, but never did get the bulls. But I went up higher on the mountain. I looked at it, said, wow, look at that green grass. There must be some water over there. Well, there was. There's a spring seat there, and I'm on a deck country for since nineteen eighty seven. I've never known that spring seat to be there. And it's thick. It's a pool of water, probably twenty five feet long by twelve feet wide.

53:33 And I walked down. I'm looking for elk and deer tracks. There was a lion track there, There was a bear track there. There was one pretty nice buck track there that I spotted, and there was numerous elkbeds around in the tracks, and you could smell elk there. And I'm standing there and I looked down at my foot. I'm looking for tracks, and I'm standing on some word ground I look and there's. A big foot track. It's probably seventeen It wasn't as big as when I cast, but close seventeen inch class bigfoot track. I'm standing right in the middle of it. I said, ah, right, So. I didn't even see it, but I took a photograph.

54:16 And then I looked in the mud hole and I said, hey, there's this track going in the mudhole. They're in the spring seat. So I said, well, I'm going to take a picture of it. And then I say, I see where he came out of the spring seat. There's another track. So I took a picture, and I took it down to Walmart and i'd hope falls to get developed. And there's this girl I'm not good on. That's kind of stop it. Just can you help me get these developments? And she says and she says, why why did you lay down in that mudhole? I said, what are you talking about? Well, she says, there's the outline right there, a person laying in that mudd hole. Well, there's a perfect picture right there of a big foot lane in that muddle.

55:01 I never even noticed it when I was there. I was just taking a picture of the tracks, and. That was last year. That was last so it was third day, third day ECUs, I believe it was third day, so that had been what the eighteenth of over next year. And I would say those that where he laid down in there and his arms and legs are there, his own heads there, the whole bit. No neck, it's all right there. It's in the photographs. I got the photographs. Big coffee. So anyhow, uh sorry, I could I think, Dave, can I jump in for a minute that that's kind of a really that's a huge deal, like a really really big deal.

55:45 Yeah, so I never even noticed it. That's wild. It's it's like the kind of like this you've heard you met actually you mentioned earlier the scuom cast is kind of similar to that, but a little different. Well, this puts the scook them cast to change. Oh yeah, I'm telling you, I just don't know who to give it to. You know. I called Meldrum over. There, because I've met Jeff a couple of times over you know, at Pocatello there at the university, but he hasn't replied to me. I told him what I had and he hasn't replied to me. So I don't know who else to give it to. Maybe I'll send it to you. You can do something with it. I would love to take a look at it if you if you would be open to to sending over h you know however, you can do that.

56:32 Yeah, sure, I'll send send. I made two copies of the eight by ten's so you can see it. You'll see it. It's it's so obvious, the big long arms. He laid right down in the thing. And uh, well, of course, you know in October, who's gonna lay in a spring seep with an average water temperature of about thirty eight degrees you know, now, I figure, uh he did that the last part of September for the first part of October. But you can see the outline. It's all muddy, you know what I mean. Uh, cloudy is what I'm to say. But it was weeks before you know, I got there. But yeah, the tracks are right there. I'll send you the photographs after we're done.

57:17 Yeah, I appreciate that. I'd love to love to take a look at it. That would be great. Oh yeah, yeah, you'll you'll you'll be shocked. And this isn't uh I don't know what they call him doctor or anything. Like that. I just took the picture. Like I said, I didn't even see the outline. The woman in Walmart, she's the one to come in and I said, holy smokes, look what and I flipped out. I said, Wow, I really got something. So I went to a guy that uh actually cast my cast for me and I showed him. He says, well, that's no, that's no animal. It has to be bigfoot. Look at the footprints. I said, yeah, look at the footprints, one in and one out. And that footprint was probably i'd say about four and a half I'd say about fifty two inches maybe fifty eight inches from where it laid down in the water. Wow, laid down water.

58:20 Yeah, you'll see. I'll send it you. You can measure the outline of the animal is probably about seven and a half feet maybe eight sure, wow, yeah, but it's there. It's obviously. I mean, anybody's got two eyeballs in front, we can tell what it is. Gotcha. Gotcha the question I had real quick. So I've talked to a few guys from Montana, which, sure, it was kind of in the same area up there, right kind of. And I was here a lot of really interesting accounts where I mean truth a kind of vicious. But from down in this area, everything that you've experienced, and you've kind of been told a lot of stories as well, do you feel that there's any of them that would also fit that or does it kind of sound like maybe they're just trying to get people out of their area in different ways.

59:26 Well, first of all, the one that scared me, I scared its is bad. Sure, I believe that. I mean, uh, I've had encounters in where I go gold mining my Elk City, Idaho, in north central Idaho. I've had a couple of encounters up there, seeing tracks played around with rocks, and the actually came down and put a rock up on my rocks. But it hasn't been back for three or four years. But I've never had a problem with them. And the one thing that intrigues me though, I think I don't know why, I can't explain it, but I think once a person sees a bigfoot, they are very likely to have more encounters. Ah. And I don't know why, but I feel that these creatures, animals, humanoids, whatever people think they are, once they encounter a human being and there's no adverse reaction, I.

1:00:32 Think they don't mind showing themselves person. I live on the last ranch up of Township Road National Force between me and Jackson, Wyoming, and I know they're up in the mountains, and I know that they probably sit there and watch me down here. Because the ranch go about my chores and everything. They don't bother me, and I don't bother them. Always said I wanted to get a DNA sample, I'd shoot one in the arm or something. I've changed my mind. I really unless want to tax me. I'm good, leven go.

1:01:12 You know what was it that made you change in your mind from doing that? Well, I've had I had a deal up in Elk City where I got up again to relieve myself. I remember there was we were camping. There was twenty miners there twenty miners in this camp site. It was called Legate Creeks. I waited fourteen out of Grainville, headed toward help City. I got up and it was like twenty after four four thirty. I had a coon hound with me, the young pup. Anyhow, she got out and did her business, ran around a little bit, and all of a sudden, I'm doing my business and a crack I felt, what didn't the heck. And it was over above the access road, coming in there, up on a sheer cliff, no less.

1:02:13 And I said, oh, it must have been a tree fell over the cliff or something hit the rocks and broke up, because it caught me off guard, you know, and I'm sleeping. But anyhow, I all of a sudden it cracks again. But it's coming right above everybody's tents and campers and everything else. I went down to two buddies. They were from California. They can verify this, and I said, hey, you guys gotta there's a big foot here. Well, every night before I go to bed, i'd whoop and we tell stories. I tell them about what happened down there, and they they just dismiss it. You know, you have a few beers and then go to bed. Anyhow, this thing must have heard me whooping and decided to come over and direct me out. So it's another crack. These guys get scared, and I said, we're going into tent.

1:03:08 This thing's coming right down here. If I ran up, I got my tent. Mean a dog, this thing, this bigfoot, and the tracks were right there. You couldn't mistake them. Big one, a big one like the one up that I made the cast of. Anyhow, it comes down and it makes two more cracks, and one is forty yards from my tent. All of a sudden it comes down and stands, and it stands less than five feet from my tent. This is what I determined when I woke up in the morning. Well, I actually didn't even sleep after that. When I got up, I should say, and I could hear breathing. I could hear breathing. It sounded like a person breathing that had a had asthma or something, you know, a problem with their lung capacity or whatever.

1:04:09 Because it was a car right, almost like a grizzly bear. When a grizzly barre will come up to your tent, you'll hear them, you know, sort of like a huff type deal. You hear him breathing. And uh, anyhow, that's what this this was. And me and the dog was in the sleeping bag. I said, don't I had my hand over a moulet, and don't make a noise. And I'm listening to the thing and it's still there for I don't know, four minutes probably, and walked off. Next morning or well that morning, A couple hours later, I got up and everybody started pulling out of the tents. I went down to Ronnie's and got some coffee. I said, well, the thing was there. He says, well, yeah, it's there left tracks.

1:04:56 I said, well, yeah, I suppose. Well, the grass was about twenty twenty. Inches high, probably to put up. There was this trash you could see right where he stood five feet from my tent and walked off. So that was one encounter up by elk sitting and here three years ago, I walked the dog every morning, give her exercise after I feed her. Then I take a cup of coffee with me, and I looked for Elkin deer tracks, and every once in a while it was seeing occasional moves. Well here I think it was three years ago. I looked and there was a big foot tractice playing his day. But unfortunately I had a different truck. I didn't have no plaster of Paris. It was a big track too. It was probably close to eighteen inches by eight inches wine it had crossed the road right there. There's three games trails right where I camped. And it woke up well, I don't know which one. I walked up I went over there, but there was scoff marks because the deer use it and stuff. I couldn't tell which one it used.

1:05:55 But yeah, down there by the road there there was the track on his day. You'd see the toes and everything in it. So that was the second deal up in the Elk City. And then the last one was up where I mine. There's a big rock there, and I don't know why, but I just put a round horse straw. Oh, I know. I was going to save it because it was pretty. I had a lot of mica in it, and so I was going to just save it. So I put it up there. And the next morning I went up there was a little horse rock sitting on top of my rock. And I looked at that, and I says, okay, who's who's screwing around here?

1:06:36 You know? And so. I said, well, okay, I'll put another rock next to it. Well, the next morning I went up, there was another rock next to my rock. And that's the last that ever happened. And there was never nothing, but I thought that was interesting. So I don't know what that was all about either, but it wasn't any body playing games because it's right next to the road. Nobody be on that clane and takes a chance being seen. So I think something across there and just decided to do that or play with me or something. I don't understand it. That's what happened.

1:07:17 That's some some very strange uh stuff. And every once in a while you'll hear just strange, strange occurrences. I did want to ask you a question about the prospecting in those circles. Is bigfoot a thing that is talked about ever? You know, prospectors are out there and they have interactions, uh with something I thought. I would say yes and no, okay, to be honest with you. Yeah, Uh, some outfitters, some hunters, some outdoorsmen, some gold miners. Uh, all those stories to tell and and some don't believe it.

1:08:01 It's like you know, it's uh, it's like every other aspect of life. Some people, well I never believe it until it happened to me. And there's nobody that's ever going to tell me that they're not out there, because I know I lived it. And once you, once you experienced it, uh, you know you once you experienced it, it's uh, you experienced it and you just you just can't eliminate that experience from your from your you know, your meal awareness. You just can't do it, and it does affect your life. I think there's not a week goes by, I think, but I wonder if he's out there watching me here or when I go out, uh scouting.

1:08:47 Uh you know, when you go scouting, there hasn't been anybody in the woods for a long time, all summer. So that's when I'm most conscious. Once the hunters get involved, uh oh hunting gun season, then there's a lot of activity and these things, uh, they're more elusive at that period of time. So but I think when you start initially scouting early in the fall, when nobody's out there, I think you've got to be on the ball. And you have to be on the ball for grizzlies now. Uh, you know, I've had a lot of entoures with grizzlies. I've had to spray him uh them within ten feet of me. Uh yeah, it's uh you've got to watch. So it's uh it's dangerous out there. So people that come from out east, they want to go and hike the west. We're going to realize there's there's a lot of a lot of danger out there. There's lions, bears, and there really is bigfoot.

1:09:53 So that's with that, I'd say I'd end in this uh uh I here to answer any questions you want to ask me about anything, but everything I told you is room. Correct, absolutely. So that's what I can tell you. From what you've experienced over the years and what you've heard in your area. Do you have any. Thoughts about what it is what bigfoot might be in that particular area of Idaho. I guess the southeast section. Well, I believe. First of all, I believe they follow the game herds because it seems like that's what happens. This this one that I casted, I started looking around in this bigfoot was sitting up the hill under me two junipers eating an elk. That's what it was eating on because the elk was there, I mean, and he drug it. He actually drugged his elk there. I could see where he drug it. Now, whether he killed the elk or not, I don't know. I have no idea that he was eating and he had a window of that road. Because I sat down right you could see where he sat down.

1:11:17 I sat down right there and I looked down at the road and you could see about four feet That dirt road is all you could see. But that's all he needed to see to know, watch the traffic. And if you'd have to look and be, it'd be a miracle to spot him up underneath him juniverse. And believe me, I can spot this up, but I would have never spotted him. And I'll tell you something else about bigfoot. They like apples in the fall time. I told you, I live at the end of the road, and there is a one piece of private property that the gentleman's going to give to the conservancy. He planted a bunch of apple tere he's up there. Used to be an old homestead, but there's no instructors there now. But fella, a young kid here, him and his sister swear they saw a bigfoot across the road going down into that apple orchard. I never thought anything of it, But there's a Macintosh apple tree that's between my place in that that apple orchard. And I had these apples spotted, and they need a good frost and then you go pick them, you know, and make your apple sauce and stuff. And so I was waiting for the frost, and the tree was loaded and I'm the only one to gets apples there. Well, I want to put the four we learned a dog to get the apples. But there wasn't an apple within eighteen feet of the ground. They were all picked. And

1:12:51 so I said, oh, boy, bear must have come down. I looked at the tree. There wasn't a claw mark on that tree. You tell me what took all them apples off that tree? And there was no prints around the tree. There was nothing. You answer that. So, now that to me lends a little credence of this kid's store because of that eye. He's just a kid. He don't always done well. Now, I tend to believe you did see a big what cross and go down through there, and that big boot was going to them apples. Yeah. I mean it's one of those stories where everything does does line up.

1:13:32 For sure. Man. What it's a part of Idaho that I don't believe we've heard a lot about. Is really fascinating to be interesting to hear if other people reach out about interactions, especially in this reservoir area Palisades Reservoir area of Idaho. Well, I can tell you that I know four locals that are running the big Foot. Yeah, and I know. Uh. Becky Cook was a friend of mine. After she wrote about me, she'd come up and visit and we'd sit on the porch and talk.

1:14:13 Didn't she tell me about new. Context that she's if not a hole of her about bigfoots around here and up in Fall Creek, which I'm looking at Fall Creek right up my ranch window right now. There was a group of people up there, Uh you know, mom, dad, family, the whole deal, and the big foot team right down and cross right in front of him. They watched it. Oh, I forgot to tell you. I was lying hunting up there five years ago. I think it's five winters ago, and I loved and I was just holy smoke. So I showed Steve the bigfoot ran down through there. He said, that ain't a big foot track that's up and jumping?

1:15:01 Is that's a big foot track? I can tell right now. So I went down. It was dark out. We were spotting more lines across the road before daylight, and lo and behold it was a big foot. He couldn't deny it because there was the tracks went right down across that canyon and then I went up into the timber and but it was before daylight, you know that they crossed. And then I'm looking right over across the valley. There's a girl scout camp up in there. And those two they're not tree structures like you would think. I've seen them up. Some guy up in Canada has a YouTube thing that he takes people up and they he pictures a big foot and stuff. Only one of those pictures even looked remotely close to the one I saw with Anyhow, he has a big foot. I don't know if you call him.

1:16:05 I guess i'd call him a shelter. But when I first found a shelter, there was a big nest inside of it. It was made out of pine boughs. There's a big round spot inside of it, like where a huge bowl owl would lay a little bit bigger than that. And then outside there was a smaller one outside the shelter. No, it's actually reversed. The small one was inside and the big one was outside. And this bigfoot climbed up a pine that's four foot in diameter and broke off limbs three to four inches to make this shelter. And that's the fact those limbs that are piled up there, and they're not piled on the ground. They're piled on a teepee like and they were all broke off up forty to fifty feet all the way down in this animal whoever was and you they were, they were four to six inches around. The thing snapped them off that tree and piled them up and there was the two beds there. I was amazed.

1:17:14 I took pictures of it. I still have pictures, I believe about that. And then I took my buddy when we were beating bear up in there because you got to see this, and I took him and it was, uh, it was a winner after and so the winner sort of scrunched down, but he stood inside of it, and it was amazing how small he looked. Wow, David, fascinating, fascinating stuff. I think that we are definitely going to need to keep in touch. You have some really amazing encounters, and you're one of those individuals that people are talking to in the area, which is really important that there's some one, you know, who's there to listen to everything that's happening. But I just want to say thank you for coming on the show today and for sharing what you've experienced over the years.

1:18:11 Sure, and I appreciate you having me on now, if you just if you'll after you end this interview, if you just stay on the line and give me your address, I'll nail that today to you and you can take a look at it. Oh yeah, sure, absolutely, Well, thank you so much for coming on, Dave, and I'll go ahead and provide you that information. Okay, sounds good man, Thank you. Yes. My name is Kyle Meadows, and I am from Webster County, Kentucky, originally from place College Clay and it's about forty minutes from Alba Land between the Lakes. That's not where my encounter happened. I've had a few encounters, some bigfoot, some may be something else. The first one on to about when I was a kid took place when I was about thirteen, twelve or thirteen, which I live in a rural area and I grew up hunting, fishing, you know, everything in the state of Kentucky that you can. And I was really big into coon hunting and my dad used to go with me all the time when I was a kid. Until I got about the age of

1:19:43 twelve thirteen, you pretty much well quit kind of going hunting with me period. That goes through everything, you know, deer, turkey and coon hunting. And I had one dog of black and tan. He was pretty well trained. And of course as a kid, I would never scare the woods or scare of the dark, and I would go by myself. Dad worked in the mines, so he always had some kind of old work car, work truck, what have you. And I would take this a car and go myself.

1:20:26 He would let me go myself because I lived not too far from where the woods is, and we always called the woods that I went to number seven. And the reason why we called it number seven, there used to be a old number seven coal mines out there and it blew up in the early nineteen hundreds and killed a bunch of people. And so I lowed the dog up. I go out there by myself. I cut it loose, walk into the woods with it. It gets to running and it's running good, and I finally come through. The woods was a little thick, and I ended up coming into a clearing. It wasn't exactly a clearing, but it was like where the trees wasn't so close together, and they were a little further apart, and they were all bigger and mature trees, and so I just sat down there and turn the light out, sit down on the ground, step against a tree, and turn my light out and listen to the dog. Well, it wasn't long.

1:21:31 I heard cold, He's open up and it sounded pretty close. And then the dog quit running, went quiet, sounded like he was about the tree, and then all of a sudden he quit hearing him. And they'll do that a lot, you know, if cold has run up on them, especially if they've had any encounters with them. So it wasn't nothing new. So I thought, well, he'll pick back up here in a minute, and I just set there my light off. Well, I kept hearing something sounding like it was circling me. So I would take and sitting listening real intent, and I thought, man, your mind's playing tricks on you. You sitting out here in the dark by yourself.

1:22:13 Mine's playing tricks on your serving down. Then I'd flipped my light on and look, wouldn't see nothing. Well, finally it got the best of me. I just you know, flipped my light on. Look, look, sit down. I kept hearing it sounds like it's circling me, and it would stop, and finally all of a sudden at once, the tree tops like exploded one tree and it was shaking. The whole tree was shaking. A tree tops, a great big tree, and I wasn't thinking at the time that, you know, there ain't a limb on it for thirty feet probably any of these trees around. But it sounded like if you've ever walked up on a big covey of turkey, that's roosting fly off. But it wasn't no wings flapping.

1:22:59 It wasn't nothing like that, because it was the whole tree top and I thought it was my dad or somebody knew playing a prank on me. At the time, I wasn't thinking that there's no way for whatever, you know, person to climb a tree like that. So eventually I got scared enough, you know, I turned my light on. I'm looking, and I said, hey, whoever it is, you need to stop quit. Game was over. I got a gun. I had a twenty two rifle. With a ten round clipping it. I said, you know, I've got a gun, I'll shoot whatever. Well, it would hit the ground, I could hear it, and it would run and go up another tree and the next tree would start shaking. So Finally, I just lowered the gun, waited for the next tree to start shaking, and fired shots off what didn't stop. Well, I realized right then that it wasn't my dad, and it wasn't nobody. When the dog heard the shots, it come back in. So I coupled it and I started trying to walk out, and I would take two or three steps and the dog would jerk behind me like something was behind us, showing his teeth all bristled up, and I literally drug the dog out of there. And that's kind of my first story. If you'd like to hear more, just to email me thank you for your time.

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1:25:56 And see you in the woods.