"Those Deer Looked Liked They Had Seen The Devil"

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The deer, and I stopped the
truck. The deer ran right up beside

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the truck and stopped and looked at
me and his tongue hanging out, and

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kept looking back towards the woods.
And I saw something running through the woods,

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chasing those deer out the corner of
that field. And it was running.

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It was tall. Whatever it was
it was running, it was black,

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and it you know, obviously wasn't
a bear running on two legs.

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But something was running on two legs
through the woods. And I only just

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saw it for maybe two to three
seconds. Says. It was running in

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between trees. But the deer where
I'd never seen a deer. That's I

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mean, he was really he wasn't
even worried about my truck and he sitting

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there. He was worried about whatever
it was behind him chasing him. And

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I just saw it, like I
said, for two or three seconds.

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And in this episode of Big for
Society, I tucked to Perry, a

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taxidermist. It's very interesting episode as
Perry has an eye for detail due to

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his trade being a taxidermist. The
episode starts going north to Alberta, as

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Perry recounts a white tailed deer hunting
trip and then go south down to Virginia

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with some very interesting encounters that happened
on some private land just south of the

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Potomac River. Before we get into
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the show, all right, big
Forciety, you've got the privilege of talking

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to Perry, who is a tax
at ermist. Perry sent me a message

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and he has some things to share
about some encounters he's had over the years.

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But Perry, how's it going tonight? I'm doing great, cold,

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be better. And you had mentioned
that, right, you were working on

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something right before before I called.
You were working on a turkey or something

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like that. Right, I just
completed Manta the turkey. I bet it

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looks good. That looks good,
yes, her, yes, her.

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I'm curious to hear you know,
you see you've got two different encounters that

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happened to you. Let's start with
the Canada one, if you wouldn't mind.

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Okay, I've joined three of my
buddies to go to Alberta, Canada

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on a white tailed deer hunt with
the bow and arrow. And uh we

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got there and they had been up
there hunting several times, and um,

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it's my first trip. So I
was every day kind of had their places

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where they usually like to go and
and so I got to look around a

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good bit and I found a really
really nice place, big soybean field on

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the next next to the what they
called the Boreal forest, which is huge

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forest, you know, hundreds of
miles you know, through the woods,

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probably you know, to find another
road or something that's not just like big

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trail roads through there. But I
end up going and getting up in the

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stand right on the edge of the
soybean field. And I've been sitting there

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for you know, probably a couple
of hours and just standing in the field,

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and I saw a couple of doze, uh, walk out into soybean

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field and we're starting to feed and
and about two hundred and fifty yards across

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the field. Uh, there's like
a clump of trees and grass and stuff

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out there that's I guess probably twenty
thirty yards across or something like that,

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and just just beyond the fence on
the other side of the soybean field.

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And I noticed that part of it, and I was looking because I heard

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some coyote's uping in there, and
I was just kind of scanning around and

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looking for a nice book, and
something caught my attention. I looked across

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there. After I kind of looked
away, and I looked back and there

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was something standing up next to the
fence. And first my first thought was

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because you know, there's big bears
up there and all that, and I

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said, man, that's a that's
a huge black bear. And it was

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black as soot. And this thing
was standing there next the fence and it

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was like leaned on the fence.
So I thought it was a bear because

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I've mounted bears with him kind of
leaning over with the paws on a branch

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or something like that. And uh, I did not have my binoculars with

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me. That's the only thing I
really hate about it, because I didn't

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have binoculars to really scan over and
check it out. But I got to

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looking at this thing, and I
got to notice in the uh, the

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way the body was constructed on this
thing, and it had shoulders on it.

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Bears they have shoulders too, but
their shoulders are more in kind of

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if you pulled your elbows together and
if you got on all fours, you'll

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notice that you're you're in a different
position. Well, this thing was standing

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up and his shoulders was broad and
out. I mean, I'm out.

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I'm out animals for a living now. I'm retired policeman and been been doing

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tax farmy for about thirty five years. And this thing will standing there and

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I guess in the fences are probably
about four foot tall, and it was

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twice that tall, so I'm thinking
was it's at least eight foot And I'm

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still not like grasping the situation so
much. I'm like, man, I'm

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sitting there trying to figure out why
this bear's got shoulders. If you understand

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what I'm saying that you know a
broad shoulders you look at a man versus

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a bear standing there that the shoulders
will be way in tucked in, even

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if he's in a standard position.
Anyway, I got to look at this

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thing and it was watching these deer
out there, and they got to looking

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at it, and I was like, you know, this thing's he's got

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a broad neck on him, but
I don't see the nose on this thing.

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I don't see you know, I've
seen this thing move. I'm looking

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at it with just my eyes.
I mean, I got good eyesight and

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everything. But I got to thinking, oh, man, I don't think

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that's a bear. And I said, for one thing, if he's eight

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foot tall, which I guessed him
at, that's probably six seven hundred pound

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bear. And I mean, I've
got a bear in the shop here,

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mouse like six hundred pounds. And
and it's you know, seventy five eight

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inches long from the from the nose
to the butt of it. So that's

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a you know, pretty fair assumption, dish. You know, it would

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have to be that big of a
bear, And it just didn't. Bears

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generally got like his head like goes
right into his shoulders. He's real broad.

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This thing was different than that.
It had somewhat of a neck like

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a human wood, but big.
This thing was big. And I just

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looked at it and it didn't really
move much. It stood there, and

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at one point it like it pushed
off of the fence and stood straight up

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more and I was like, man, that ain't a bear. And at

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that point, I'm like, I
don't know what to think about it.

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And I'm like, gosh, man, I wish I had a prepair of

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the knockulars really scan in on this
thing. It's driving me nuts, you

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know. And you know, I'm
out there my heads shotty cell service out

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there. This is you know,
quite a years back, and we cell

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phones didn't work really good out there, and and my my ride is taking

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three other guys to the stand and
he's probably twenty miles away from me right

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now. If I freaky, I
can't get scared. So I'm liked because

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you can't. I ain't had a
gun up here. I just having my

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boat, you know, and just
kind of concerned at this point. And

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I hear these coaties again start starting
up, and I'm trying to keep an

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eye on this thing out across They're
trying to figure out, trying to rationalize

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it in my mind that that's a
bear and not nothing else. And I

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just could not say it was a
bear. Seeing too many bears. I've

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been bear hunting in New Brunswick and
taking three bears over there, and just

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saying, could not have been a
bear, And it's about one hundred and

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fifty yards to the main woods from
that clump out there, and if and

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I was looking towards so these where
these cavities was coming from, and when

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I looked back, this thing was
gone. I mean it was probably ten

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seconds maybe. Wow. So when
I looked back, I was like,

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well, I'm starting scanning up and
down the fence line, thinking well,

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okay, maybe maybe it's a bear. He went down all fours, but

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the soybeans wouldn't up that high,
and I could clearly see the fence,

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and if he was that tall,
and if it was a bear, he's

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going to be probably forty eight inches
tall the shoulders, which is you know,

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I would be able to see that
if he was like moving along,

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and if he went on all fours
and was walking on the fours like a

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bear wood and I didn't see that. The only thing I can figure is

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that thing went into that brush over
there and maybe sat down and was watching,

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or the cooties you know, come
up he just wanted to kind of

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see what was going on, or
the coach come up in there and did

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their thing chase the dose around and
I ended up the leader of the coach

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came up there and I was able
to get a shot and take him.

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And as soon as I shot the
coody though, I got out on the

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stand, got it out of there
and went to the road and I was

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making a phone call because it was
he was starting to get dark, and

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I want to get out of there, and I don't get I don't get

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nerved too much. And because I
hug hunt at night by myself twelve midnight,

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was with a you know, night
vision and a thermal scope, and

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I walk around for hours hull hunting
to night by myself. It's just no

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big deal. I don't never get
freaked out, you know, in Alabama.

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But up there's a different story.
So anyway, UM got back to

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the truck, told him what I
saw, and uh, my buddy up

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there that let's just come up there
and hunt. He uh, he didn't

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have much to say about it.
He didn't, you know, say it

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was crazy anything. But I somement, I don't know if I saw a

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bear or big foot, but this
thing was huge, and I said it

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was standing for ten or fifteen minutes. Uhlan leaned on the fence post comes

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God like you're sitting there, you
dad, He's at the football game and

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land over on the fence watching you
play football. This is what this thing

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is doing. It had so much
human behavior, you know, an upright

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by a pedal, uh, creature
or something would do, you know.

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But got in the truck, went
down the road and one of the other

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guys had walked in went into that
deep forest that afternoon, and he was

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really unnerved about something that happened with
him, and he would never to this

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day, wouldn't really tell me what
he thinks happened to him. But he

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walked in the woods and he said
he felt like something was watching him.

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And when he walked in, he
saw something really dark in the woods following

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him, and he said it he
thought it was walking on two legs.

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And he said, I couldn't see
it good enough to will tell her was

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a bear or what it was.
But he said followed me all the way

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in. And he said, I
stayed in there a little while. And

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he says I had a half a
mile walk back in there, and he

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says, I got my butt out
of there. I've been waiting up at

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the road, you know, for
y'all to come pick me up. I

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didn't even hunt so and he's a
great hunter, killed a lot of big

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deer with the bow. And uh, I mean, all these guys are

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professional and big big game hunters and
stuff, and so he, uh,

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he wasn't going back in there again. He hunted up next to this guy's

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house risk the trip where it's kind
of open, and I mean, if

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you want to come out standing and
walk right over three for one of yards

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and go to the guy's house.
So anyway, the uh, one of

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the other guys had an experience.
He was on a fence line hunting,

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hunting the trail and uh, he
said the ones got real steel and quiet.

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He said he could hear something walking
up, crunch crunch, crunching the

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leaves, and it got He said
he could just see something, but he

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couldn't tell what it was. He
just saw a movement through some brush and

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it stopped, and he said he
could hear it breathing, and he you

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know, he was kind of freaked
out about it. And um, he

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couldn't really say what it was,
but hearing him talk about it, I

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don't think he thought it was a
bear. And of course it's not gonna

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be a deer, because the deer
is not really gonna have that kind of

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behavior anyway, you know, like
a man walking in the woods kind of

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sound and the leaves, and so
he never went back to that spot again,

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and he ended up hunting with the
other guy on the edge of a

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big field for the rest of the
trip and kind of an open where you

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can everybody kind of stayed out of
the deep woods. So that was pretty

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much my Canada trip. And but
pretty much everybody I talked to up there

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have had some kind of experience of
some kind, but up there, it

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wasn't really willing to say a whole
lot about it. And because I've always

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been I've been interested this for a
lot of years and it's one of those

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things, you know, you got
to prove to me before I believe it.

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And but that kind of rounds up
my Canada trip there, Harry,

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I have a few questions about the
Canada trip, all right, So,

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um, can you can you say
what? I don't think I caught what

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area of Alberta this was up in? Well, it's it's been so long

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I couldn't tell you exactly what town
it's close to. Um My buddy up

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there. His name was Nick.
Uh really really good guy, hard working

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guy. But it was close to
the boreal forest, the Nordegg at all

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or I could I honestly could not
tell you, no problem. No,

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probably it's been probably ten to fifteen
years ago. Yeah, it's been a

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while. That's the only trip I
went up there. I had enough of

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Canada, right, Yeah, you
you were good after that. So thinking

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back, and I know you didn't
see it for for a long time,

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but do you remember anything about maybe
the head shape of what you saw over

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there? Yeah? I was,
uh, I'm sorry, what is a

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descriptive and this should have been,
but to me, it kind of looked

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kind of ridgie in the middle of
the head, which was a bears flat

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on top of his head. And
that's something that I had to think about.

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And I'm glad you asked that question
because if it brings back memories,

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and that was the thing about it. I was like, I was waiting

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for this thing to kind of turn, it said, so I could see

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the bridge of the nose and all
that and to verify what I was looking

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at, and it never did.
It was just kind of looking over,

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kind of looking straight back at at
me because the dinner between me and whatever.

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It was there, but it kind
of, like said, it wasn't

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flat on the head. It kind
of went to a ridge on top of

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the head. It kind of looked
narrow at the top or narrowed at the

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top. And from what I remember, and like I said, I didn't

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I couldn't make out any years or
anything. But on a big black bear.

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If it was a black bear,
which I doubt I'm about ninety nine

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percent sure that it wasn't. Uh
you'd build you probably wouldn't be able to

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see years on the side of his
head, the head being that big.

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If there was a big animal,
um, but it the head wouldn't built

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like a bear head it was.
It was smaller and it kind of looked

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kind of funny because the head was
in comparison to the shoulders. I mean,

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it looked like a running back out
there, you know, big broad

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shoulders. And that's that's right.
There's what I'm like, freaking out,

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What the heck is that right?
And uh, anyway, I mean,

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you know they don't they don't if
you if you look at a bear,

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if you go on Pinterest or something
like that and you look at them standing

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bear. And then you look at
what people portray as a big foot on

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pictures and stuff like that, one
standing up, standing up facing there's a

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big difference in the way they look. Um just the same thing. If

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a man was standing out there versus
a bear, you're going to see broad

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shoulders, it's going to be straight
across and and but this thing was was

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super wide, super broad at the
shoulders and his head. He didn't have

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a big, blocky head like you
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like to a human. It just
he didn't look like that, just

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had a smaller head and he looked
like he had a neck. And uh.

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But I mean, like I said, I was the only one out

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there, and they ain't nobody in
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you remember anything about its arms at
all? Uh? Well, like I

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said, he was he was kind
of bent over a little bit, uh

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with the arms on the fence,
and they were they were really long and

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looked like stumps. And uh,
like I said, you know, a

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bear can have big stumpy arms too, but they're generally not that long.

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Uh. And if they're that big, they generally don't um, I appear

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to have long, long arms like
this thing. They just the more I

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think about it, the more I
look at it in my mind. You

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know, it's just it's a long, lanky, wide, thick kind of

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critter. That's all I can say
about it. I wish if i'd had

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my binoculars I had, I always
had ten power binoculars, I could have

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really identified this thing because I'd have
had fifteen minutes, ten to fifteen minutes

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to really check it out. But
it's it's you know, if I would

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have to say what it was,
I would say, it is not a

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bear, and it's a it's something
that I've never seen but four And I've

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said, I've been hunting all my
life, and it's something I didn't want

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to get close to. It's intriguing
when it's especially paired with your your fellow

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hunter friend having something happened to him
that he's never mentioned to this day exactly

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what happened, you know. Yeah, and he would be because those guys

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were quite a bit younger than me. I'm their taxidermist, and they just

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happened to take me on a hunt. And I'm, like I said,

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I'm fifty nine now, but they're
like forty years old. So I was

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quite a bit older than them,
and they would have probably been more afraid

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if somebody teasing them, if he
said something me, I don't care.

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I mean it's you know, you
can have an opinion about me. I

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don't care. I'm on the one
that matters. Like it comes down to

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the end of the day, what
I feel about what I saw and everything.

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I'm not afraid. That is fascinating, Perry, I got I got

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a question for you. We're going
to take a detour or a few minutes

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before the Virginia one. So let's
let's imagine that you're you're in your taxit

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ermy shop, and all of a
sudden, a truck pulls up to the

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back of the shop and there's something
under a tarp in the back, and

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the gentleman says, I'll give you
a million dollars, but you've got a

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taxi orman whatever's in there, and
you look underneath it and it's a big

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foot. What do you do?
Would you do it? Well, if

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if I could have done it legally, yes, I would, hear so

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I would have tried, but I'd
have probably got some of my buddies I

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compete with it on that. Yeah, I would. I would freak out.

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I mean really, I mean there's
a there's a lot And that's one

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thing that I've taught with people before. I'm like, what would you do

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if you ran up on something in
the woods like this? Would you shoot

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it? If you're sitting in the
stand and just think I'm walking by you,

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what'd you shooting me? Absolutely not, because there's you know, I'm

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speaking kind of as a cop to
h from thirty years in law enforcement.

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You know, for one thing you
got, I mean there's obvious people if

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they're going to pranking and stuff and
doing all that, that's one thing would

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enter your mind. But if you
shot something that's walking up right like that,

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You're you're going to be kind of
be like that dentist that shot the

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line that came out of the park
or something years ago. Man, you're

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gonna you're not gonna live it down. They probably end up prostcuting you over

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something. Yeah, And now I'm
not that kind of hunter. I would

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not do that. I would.
I would probably and I wouldn't look to

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think I'm up and beating my brains
out or something like that. But you

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know, I would give it a
wide berth of h to get around me

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or me I would back out of
there like I would if I'd come up

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on a bear or something, you
know. But yeah, that's that's that's

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kind of that's funny because we have
talked about that. That's very interesting because

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I mean, when you think about
it, it's like it's got to be

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a thing where there's not just one
by itself. You probably if you take

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one down, you're probably gonna meet
it's brother or it's brothers pretty quick,

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so you you're better be ready.
But some some wild stuff that goes on

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down in Oklahoma for sure. Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, there's you

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don't really know what you're doing until
you get put in that position. You

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know. That's a good point.
Um, I've heard, you know,

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people that had encounters, and they've
heard of people they think that Cuban and

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other people said they just you know, they kind of go on their own

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way. They know you're not wrong. Yeah, ain't really worried about your

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hurting them stuff. And I bean't
sure. Wouldn't you know, shoot one.

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Absolutely wouldn't have shot one because I've
been I'd have been afraid of I

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didn't make a good shot and get
killed anyway. But I wouldn't. I

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wouldn't mess with anything like that.
I just couldn't do it. That's one

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of those things. It would be
be more of a man. I'm curious

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how, I mean, these things
need to they got to cohabitate with us

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if they're you know, one hundred
percent there, you know which I think

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they are. And I just wished
I had a better experience, uh with

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with that that incident there, You
know what, I wish I'd had a

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compair of binoculars or a rifle scope
or something I could look through and and

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uh really, you know, I
just want to see that thing's face and

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make it out clear. And you
know, it's that's just one of those

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things you you'll ponder on the rest
of your life, you know, you

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get generally most folks are only going
to get one one time. They're going

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to experience something like that. And
you know, I'm kind of one of

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those guys. You know, Yeah, that's that It'll be with you for

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the rest of you your life,
for sure. Did you ever get any

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weird calls when you're a police officer, like people calling in a big foot

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sighting or anything like that. No, I never did. I not an

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Alabama have it. I mean I've
heard people say they you know, said

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they saw something they couldn't identify.
But I've never had a call like that.

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I've had ghost calls and other criticy
calls, but I haven't had any

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kind of because I policed in a
big city and everything okay, And I

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think the only thing they would call
a police home great kas dealing stuff at

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their house or something. Sure,
Yeah, I mean I've talked to a

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few people about northern Alabama, and
when you get out in the woods and

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the big forest out there, there's
some very interesting big foot encounters to do

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with hunters that have been reported,
and they've found hunter has just torn apart

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underneath their tree stand and it's just
it's some wild stuff. You've got.

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It's got have done in that that
state, for sure. Yeah, yeah,

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I would. I would think if
they're already in Alabama, they would

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be more up around Birmingham up there
with a you know, a lot of

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mountainous terrain and bigger woods. And
if I was one of those things,

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um, survival would be survive.
I wouldn't want to be around humans.

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I might want to have him where
I could maybe go and look at them

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every now and then, but have
a safe retreat where they know somebody's not

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on will follow me, you know. So that's why they, I guess

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they seek out those kind of areas
around here. You know, it's just

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dense forest and pine trees and stuff
like that. It's not not a bunch

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of moles or anything like that and
big callers and stuff like that. It's

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more flat where I'm at. Gotcha, Well, Perry, let's uh,

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let's talk a little bit about what
happened to you in Virginia if you don't

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mind. Oh yeah, yeah,
this this, this is what really got

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me. Uh you know, I've
been listening to the bigfoot stories and stuff,

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and like I said, I was
scared. Easy man, I've been

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shot at and and being in car
chases and been deadly shootouts in all coinst

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I don't I ain't afraid of that
kind of stuff. But the unknown stuff

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is what what kind of gets you, you know. And I was working

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for UM a platform and UM just
trying to try something. I was driving

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trucks and uh we were Me and
a bunch of guys were staying at the

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house down and um uh off the
Potomac River in Virginia right on the you

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know, across the river you're in
uh in Maryland, and King George is

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where I was at. And this
road where they said the company would run

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a house for you, a bunch
of guys and you know, stay out

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there and we'd be gone for five
six months a year and come back and

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have all the time to hunt and
whatever you want to do when you come

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back home, and still draw a
check. So we had this, uh,

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really nice house, two story house, and it was about four miles

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down this road, just a small
windy road all the way down. It

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was probably a one hundred and fifty
yards off the Potomac River. I guess,

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big wooded area around the house.
And I was in the bed one

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night and it was about eleven o'clock
and I think only one of the guys

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was still awake. He was and
he always kept his room all his door

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check and music and watching TV and
everything. So so well, I think

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got there and get some drinks,
and I had picked up some bread.

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I was gonna make some just for
the next morning because I had to get

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about two thirty morning get started.
So I walked outside just round, I

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guess round, lad my twelve or
something like that, and I walk out

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to the parking area and my tory
of trucks out there, and I opened

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up the back door and I'm getting
these drinks out and I'm kind of crouched

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down because I think a couple of
them fell out of the case of drinks

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that I had, and I crouched
down and I heard something hitting my truck,

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bounced off my truck or my wheel
or something right there, and lune

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it kind of land right next to
me, and there was a rock,

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and I'm like, I just kind
of I was like, man, what,

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what in the world was a rock? Maybe I'm just you know,

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imagining things, you know, that's
the first thought. But you know,

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hair standing up on my back already, and I'm curious, real curious,

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and almost about man. Just a
minute or so later, maybe fifteen seconds

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later, I can't remember exactly,
but a definite rock about two inches I

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guess in diameter, come flying over
there, hit the gravel in the driveway

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and kind of bounced up against the
wheel again, I mean almost hit me.

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And I look over in the woods
and of course I don't see none.

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It's dark out there, so not
to scramble for anything, and my

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gun was in the truck, my
pistol that I retired with, and uh

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so I just kind of just slowly, just tinyase I re act like I

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didn't notice that. Then I grabbed
my gun. I'm like, all right

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now, I'm ready. I think
I even actually grabbed an extra magazine stuck

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it in my back pocket, and
I'm like, okay, somebody's missing with

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me. And then I got thinking, man, the ain't nobody put us

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down here, and that all the
guys in the house. And I looked

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back at the house, and ain't
noboddy messing with me? And where this

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thing coming from, where it was
coming from was with the big woods,

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and uh so, uh I just
man, I just felt my skin got

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that that feel, and you feel
like your hair's just about to jump off

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your skin back and neck. You
get that feeling, old man, just

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like I used to get when I
was a policeman, like somebody's watching me.

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When I'm going in the building with
a canine dog or something like that.

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You know, you always think you're
gonna walk up on somebody. And

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I just had that that same same
feeling about it. I got my stuff

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and I got me in that house
pretty quick. And first thing I did

408
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:52.680
when I went in there, I
checked everybody. Everybody was asleep, nobody

409
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.799
had been outside, and a matter
of fact, everyone come in they were

410
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:02.200
snoring. And so I went to
and sat there in the bed trying to

411
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:07.839
figure out what the heck that was. And and so the next day,

412
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:13.759
I think it was maybe a few
days later, we had maybe on the

413
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:19.599
weekend, and everybody kind of got
off. We didn't have to run that

414
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.559
day or something like that. Some
days we didn't have to run. But

415
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.039
the guys, the younger guys,
I don't drink or anything like that,

416
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.440
and they they were drinking pretty good. And one of the guys went out

417
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.759
and back and he had a hammock
back there, one of those that you

418
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.000
can kind of roll up around your
body and sleep in, and I guess

419
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.680
you could use it to keep bugs
off of you or something though at night.

420
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:49.880
And he had fell asleep in that
thing and about two or three o'clock

421
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.759
in the morning, and he'd then
passed out. He was drunk now,

422
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.160
but he'd be passed out in that
thing, and he said he woke up

423
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.759
and something was kind of pushing up
against him. Now, he never seen

424
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.359
anything he said, buddy, he
said something. You think it was one

425
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.000
of us messing with him. He
didn't. Nobody said acknowledged anything, and

426
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:15.160
nobody had been out there. And
now he said he heard it walk off

427
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.720
in the woods. But that's pretty
much the end of that story. It's

428
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.119
all he could say about. He
said, Look, man, I woke

429
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:23.039
up. Oh yeah, I was
still a little drunk, he said,

430
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:28.200
but I was. I sobered up
really quick when something touched me through the

431
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:35.319
you know, through this little um
hanging thing hammock. And he said,

432
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.240
scared to him, kiss out of
him, you know, And he was

433
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:44.519
serious. And so I'm I'm intrigued. I'm anything like that. I'm intrigued

434
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:50.680
that, you know. So I
don't know. It's probably we were kind

435
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.079
of getting towards the end of our
tour up there, I guess. And

436
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.200
I noticed one day when I come
back home, I've been the store,

437
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:04.240
and to come back in h you
know, had rock thrown, something touched

438
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:09.800
my buddy in the backyard. Came
home a tree lopped off about nine foot

439
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.880
up eight or nine foot up,
just broke over. Like we ain't had

440
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.039
no weather, no bad weather,
no nothing. There's no reason for that

441
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.760
tree to just snap over. But
it was in the backyard, and I

442
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:23.760
called my wife and told her.
I said, hey, you know,

443
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.119
told her about you know, we've
we've watched this stuff and it's just kind

444
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.920
of freaky that how the hick is
this tree. I looked for another land

445
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.280
that might have fell out of the
tree and hit it, been it over

446
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.599
and broke it. But the tree
was probably about four inches in diameter and

447
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:45.119
it just snapped and it was not
a dead tree because when its splintered when

448
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.400
it rolled over. So and I
asked some of the guys, I say,

449
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.000
hey, y'all, ain't been out
here monking around and breaking the trees,

450
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.400
because you know, we're renting this
place. We don't want to be

451
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.679
responsible for, you know, paying
for a tree or anything like that.

452
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:02.679
And it's no, no, nothing
about it. So that was the second

453
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:10.679
incident or third, I say third
incident there, and then it was pretty

454
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.559
much there was a bunch of deer, a bunch of game in Prown.

455
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.360
I mean there would be deer in
our front yard and backyard and all up

456
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.480
and down the road all the time, and just a really gaming place.

457
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:31.920
And one day I was right before
we were done and we're leaving out It's

458
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:37.639
like late July, and I was
coming up the road headed back out.

459
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:42.599
I was going to go to win
Dixie or win Dixiere Walmart or whatever it

460
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:47.400
was up there. And when I
was coming up the road, I saw

461
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.280
a deer at the right side of
my my cabin, my truck, on

462
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.599
the edge of the field, and
it was running full board across that field

463
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.239
with his tongue hung out. And
I noticed a bunch of other deer running

464
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:07.480
out of that saying, that's the
same brick of woods that all these encounters

465
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:14.599
kind of come from, and the
deer and I stopped the truck. The

466
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.639
deer ran right up beside the truck
and stopped and looked at me and his

467
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:23.719
tongue hanging out and kept looking back
towards the woods. And I saw something

468
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:30.360
running through the woods, chasing those
deer out the corner of that field,

469
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:36.159
and it was running. It was
tall, whatever it was it was running,

470
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:42.360
it was black, and it you
know, obviously wasn't a bear running

471
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.440
on two legs. But something was
running on two legs through the woods.

472
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.639
And I only just saw it for
maybe two three seconds. Says it was

473
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.519
running in between trees, but the
deer where I'd never seen a deer.

474
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.519
That's I mean, he was really
he wasn't even worried about my truck and

475
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.800
needs sitting there. He was worried
about whatever it was behind him chasing them.

476
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:06.239
And I just saw it, you
know, like I said, for

477
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.639
two or three seconds, and then
he went out of sight. But the

478
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:15.159
deer, they would run out in
the field and they stopped around and looked,

479
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:16.639
you know, one hundred and fifty
yards out from the edge of the

480
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:21.519
woods, and they stopped and look
back in there, and they all looked

481
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:27.880
like, you know, they've seen
the devil. And it was maybe I

482
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.000
don't know, maybe a two nights
or a week later. They got all

483
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.599
the stuff and was out of there, and I ain't come back. But

484
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:40.920
I know this everywhere up there,
if you you know, they have big

485
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:50.239
foot sculptures and uh like trees that
they've carved out with a chainsaw. They're

486
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.039
everywhere, even up in Maryland.
They were all over the place. And

487
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.360
uh, you know, I'd get
to talk to people about those things because

488
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.000
I hic I wanted to buy one, but men, they were expensive,

489
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.239
said man, like four thousand dollars
for one of those sculptures, and I

490
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.159
said, I'll just leave it here, and they were like, yeah,

491
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.159
yeah. You know, I had
an experience I was on the Potomac or

492
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.800
one of the rivers, our little
tributaries off of the Potomac and run into

493
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.239
one of these things trying to scoop
up fish. And there was just stories

494
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:22.039
like that everywhere. Oh yeah,
my son's season and and um, you

495
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:28.880
know there's a I think there's like
a I think if I remember right of

496
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:34.920
off of ninety I think ninety five
may have been the main dragged through going

497
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:42.800
up from like Fredericksburg up to UH
to Washington, that big main um interstate.

498
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.760
I can't may I may not be
right about that, because you know

499
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:52.159
it's been since two thousand seventeen.
But Uh, there's a military memral.

500
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.840
I think it's a marine place up
there. And I'd run into some people

501
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.880
that said they there's a bunch of
government land around there, and they've been

502
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:06.119
hiking out there and stuff and and
and said they'd seen them up there and

503
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.599
had experiences with them. Really,
so, I mean, it was everywhere

504
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:14.599
everywhere up there. And you know, you come from Alabama, you don't

505
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.320
hear much about it when you get
up theirrist like everybody's got a story to

506
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.440
tell about it, right, and
just too much. Yeah, if you

507
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:29.000
could remind me so where you saw
this creature running through the woods real quick?

508
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:34.440
That was private property? Or was
it like a public land state forest

509
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.559
type deal? No, that's that's
all that land back and there's private property.

510
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.039
The story was told to me the
a colonel or a general that was

511
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:53.639
on the battleship or aircraft carrier when
they signed the Japanese signed their surrender.

512
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.719
There's I've seen a picture of the
man that had bought all that land in

513
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:07.079
there and he's he's dead. That
is, uh, his wife or granddaughter

514
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:13.079
or you know, is the only
one that lives down in there, and

515
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.000
he owned all that land back in
there. But he was on the on

516
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.519
he had a picture of him when
they the Japanese were uh signing their surrender

517
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:28.840
on whatever ship they were on.
And I don't know who. I can't

518
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:32.000
remember what important officers there could have
been mac Arthur or somebody there. I

519
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:37.400
don't know what, but I did
see pictures because that's who we were renting

520
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:43.800
a place from, and our company
was renting the place from. But I'd

521
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:50.280
tell you this uh not. Uh, I would not live I mean for

522
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.599
as a hunter. Yeah, but
I wouldn't go out at dark out there.

523
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:59.480
Oh yeah, that that was freaky. Somebody threw a rock. I

524
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.800
mean, you know, what's the
chances. I mean, you'd have to

525
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.400
walk four miles down in there and
just to snoop around, you know,

526
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.239
you can't. You know, there
wasn't no vehicles out there. There's just

527
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.039
stars and that was it. And
and the old lady lived down the end

528
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.960
of that room, and uh,
that was it. And I don't know

529
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.719
anybody in the right mind would walk
and then as dark as that is,

530
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:28.559
and then woods would walk around out
there. Uh no, but it threw

531
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:37.199
rocks at me, and uh that
I mean when it happened, I was

532
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.440
like, I'm thinking, good night, man's this is like right out of

533
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:45.599
the story I've heard, you know, growing up. And uh and then

534
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.320
a tree busted over. I'm like, good night. I told my wife

535
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:55.559
about it, and we discussed it
and crazy thinking, I haven't seen that

536
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:00.400
like that in Alabama, right exactly, thinking back to like that, and

537
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.199
I know it was only for a
few secrets, a few seconds that you

538
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.800
saw the creature running through the woods. When the deer were nearby when you

539
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.800
saw it running for a few seconds, wasn't near any deer at all.

540
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:22.320
I would say the closest it was
was about fifty yards. And it needed

541
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.960
to know that. You think about
this now. I just thought about this.

542
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:32.199
They you run out of deer and
he's gonna be in the next zip

543
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.920
code at least he's deer around here. You take a run out, I

544
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:42.800
mean within seconds, they're gone.
And whatever this was was running fast and

545
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.960
he wasn't far off the heels of
at least one of the deer. And

546
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.719
this one deer looked like you'd didn't
chase for a while. I mean,

547
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.599
because he's the tongue was hanging out
of his head. And a deer don't

548
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.239
get winded running you one hundred and
fifty yards out of the wheel. It's

549
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:06.760
they don't get that winded like that. It's like when they're completely stressed.

550
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.280
That's that's kind of an indicator right
there. And when they when they're stressed.

551
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.280
Because I used to raise the dear
years ago, and I've had dogs

552
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.800
come around a pin and and uh
scare them, and you know, but

553
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:24.199
it takes a lot of agitation for
one to get I think that be hanging

554
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:28.960
his tongue out like that. You
know. So whatever it was was after

555
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:35.280
him and scared the crap out of
him and me too. Well, yeah,

556
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:39.320
absolutely, so I was asking that
to see it was, did you

557
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.800
see it run by anything that could
give you an indication of how tall it

558
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:52.559
might have been? Well, I
all I remember is that this thing's like

559
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:58.000
one hundred and fifty yards across the
field in the woodline. And I never

560
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:04.599
went over there to like try to
figure that out. And but for me

561
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.440
to see it, if it had
been like a human or something in a

562
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.679
black suit, which you know,
there's no way it could have been it

563
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.039
just because there's no way they would
have been able to get that close to

564
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:20.920
a deer running like that, and
UM kind of keep kind of keep up

565
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.039
with it, so to speak.
And whatever it was was big, tall

566
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:30.239
and was running fast, and and
I was thinking, you know, the

567
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.119
first thing I thought, I always
think it isn't bad, you know,

568
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.480
but this thing wasn't running load of
the ground. This thing was running high,

569
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:42.000
and it was on two legs,
and it you know, you see

570
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.480
it, and you just you don't
at first, you don't, you rationalized,

571
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.719
try to fare out what was that? And then you kind of play

572
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:51.880
it back in your head and you're
like, oh my god, man,

573
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:57.280
that thing was running on two legs
and it was big. That's all I

574
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.800
can tell you. I wouldn't say
it was six foot all. I would

575
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.360
say it was beyond that. It
had to be. I mean, I've

576
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:10.480
I've been a trained observer for thirty
years and and uh, I don't have

577
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.159
the answers to everything. But if
you know, I've been a hunter for

578
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.920
forever, since I was, you
know, seveny years old, I've been

579
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:24.400
in the woods hunting and I've seen
a lot of things. And that's definitely

580
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:32.800
something that caused a confusion in my
head. I mean, I don't get

581
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.519
confused about it. I mean I
see them all the time. I can

582
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.000
look at something in a split second
tell you where it is. But I

583
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:45.199
couldn't tell you what that was in
a split second. It just freaked me

584
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.880
out because I've never seen that ever. And uh, I've seen moose,

585
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.880
bear, elk. I've been wilming
hunting out there have been everywhere, and

586
00:45:53.960 --> 00:46:04.880
I have never seen nothing that big. Uh like that ever. Oh it's

587
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:10.679
fascinating, accuse definitely, And that
is that's pretty much. All I have,

588
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.800
um that I can recall that I'm
you know, I've been up to

589
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:21.880
Cage Cove where they said they you
know, had some issues affair with people

590
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.599
running into them and everything, and
and uh, I'm taking my wife up

591
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:30.559
there, and and uh, where's
that hut Cage Cove is? And uh

592
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.800
Kentucky. Oh, I'm not familiar
with that Cage Cove. I'm I'm sorry,

593
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.159
not Cage Coke. I'm through my
land between the Lakes. Oh you've

594
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.039
been to LBL Oh yeah, well
yeah, I've been Cage Coke too.

595
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.079
That's in Tennessee. But uh uh
Lbl's and uh, Kentucky and I've been

596
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.880
up there hunting. And then my
wife went up there on a little mini

597
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.679
vacation and stuff and and uh she
says she heard some hooping off and in

598
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.159
the holler and everything. I didn't
hear it, but she says she did.

599
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.239
And uh, my book is it
to local shop up here? Bowshop

600
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.159
was like I had told them about
it. And when she came in there

601
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:12.880
were they were given a hard time. They're like, you know, messing

602
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.960
with her and stuff. And we
laughed real hard about that. But she

603
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.280
says she would never go back.
There's some weird we were where we were

604
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.920
out, there was nobody there.
Nobody. Man, it's nothing but woods

605
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.679
for two miles and there's nothing.
And she swears she I was putting up

606
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.679
and during I got bad ears from
shooting guns all the life. I was

607
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.639
up there putting a turl camera.
Come overhel there and she was at the

608
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:43.559
truck and she heard some paller and
her hooping down in the woods down there.

609
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.480
And when I got down there,
she had her eyes looked like Adam

610
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.440
Schiff eyes, you know, real
wide and stuff. She later get the

611
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.400
truck round here. Yeah, I
mean, and I've talked to people where

612
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:05.960
they have had really interesting things happen
in that forest. For sure. It

613
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.599
is huge. Yeah, I mean
some of the biggest white oak trees you'll

614
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:14.920
ever see. And there's there's graveyards
all through there. Oh look that I

615
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.519
mean, that's what we did.
We drove her little um Toyota forerunner.

616
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.719
We would go up these little old
roads and stuff, and we I don't

617
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.920
know how many we looked at,
but we found graves from We found a

618
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.519
couple from the seventeen hundreds and then
the graveyard up there, and a lot

619
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:38.719
of are from the Civil War and
uh, I mean you don't hear highways

620
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:43.039
back in there. You don't hear
nothing. It's this way back in the

621
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.280
woods. And uh. But yeah, there's been a lot of uh,

622
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:52.400
a lot of sightings and stuff up
there of bigfoot and even even uh,

623
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:59.559
well, it's primarily known for for
dogman sightings and some pretty yeah one ones

624
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:05.159
at that. I've talked to a
few people about that, but there's there's

625
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:10.159
definitely some some bigfoot sightings and encounters
in that LBL regions. That's very interesting

626
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:15.239
that your wife heard those sounds.
Who knows what could have been out there.

627
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.480
Yeah, it was trying to think
of the cab there's a place where

628
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:27.239
you can ridden cabinsh gosh, it's
been several years since I've been there,

629
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.880
but you can, uh first part
of November. A lot of bow owners

630
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:36.079
in their winding cabins. And it's
the only place home of LBL that you

631
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.000
can want cabins. I just can't
clink of a run off top of my

632
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.239
head, but they have a whole
bunch of cabbins n there. You can

633
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.840
rant sales service down there. Sucks. Yeah, would you get up on

634
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.159
the other side of kind of um. I guess the northern side of the

635
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:57.679
LBL. Was this a little bit
uh hillier? You can get You can

636
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.400
get a lot more better service up
that way. You walk off gun and

637
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.280
involved get get no sales serviceness.
I don't like being out without a sale,

638
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.239
you know, grew up without one. But man, what we like?

639
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.960
Yeah, no, I get it. It's weird not being able to

640
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:20.840
connect with loved ones or a safety
professional if you need one. But sometimes

641
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.760
you go to areas where you just
you can't do it. But Perry,

642
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:32.360
this has been a really fascinating chat, some super fun accounts. Thank you

643
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.679
so much, And I hope people
listening to this maybe this will jog something

644
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:42.480
in their memory about something they experienced
in Virginia or Alberta, Canada. And

645
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.559
you're more welcome to send me an
email if you'd like to share what happened

646
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:52.679
to you at Bigfoot Society at gmail
dot com and we can start the conversation

647
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.119
there for sure. But Perry,
thank you so much for spending some time

648
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:01.719
with me tonight. Absolutely have a
good day here at Bigfoot Society. Article

649
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.559
is to provide a platform for those
that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter

650
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.159
in a safe and respected environment,
but we need to hear your story.

651
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.840
If you've experienced something that you just
can't explain, please send me an email

652
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.800
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation.

653
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:29.719
And I know a lot of you
have not shared your encounter at all.

654
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:35.440
It's been twenty years and it's time
that you get this off your chest and

655
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:37.599
then you can get some well deserved
for rest, because I know you haven't

656
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:43.599
been sleeping. I understand what you're
going through, and I appreciate every one

657
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:44.239
of you listening