Three Bigfoot Surrounded Our Trailer! | Lowell, Oregon

0:02 You're listening in to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's story is about a woman who lived off grid for an entire year in a forgotten pocket of Oregon forest just outside of Oakridge. Something surrounded her trailer night after night, leaping on the roof and leaving bare human like footprints in the mud the next morning, three of them, different sizes, always circling. It's what Brenda lived through night after night. This is the Ivan Oaks Incident. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Brenda today. Brenda is a local to the Eugene, Oregon area artist. She just reached out to me a few days ago about some really interesting things she had happen in the vicinity of Oakridge, Oregon.

0:48 So welcome to the show, Brenda. How's it going. Today, Ben? How are you doing great? I you know, ever since you reached out, I've been looking forward to this one, especially because you know, as we were talking and about before, this is one of my favorite places in the world. It's so beautiful in this area. The lam At National Forest is incredible. There's a lot going on there that people don't realize. So looking forward to hearing what you have to share and we'll talk about it for sure. But Brenda, feel free to take us back to when these interesting things started happening to you in the Oak Ridge organ area.

1:29 Okay, this was a couple of years ago, was during COVID, like well at the tail end of it, and we were camping up in Ivan Oaks, which is a boundary line road. It's the backway to west for an Oakridge. We were up there camping and we were kind of having a hard time fund and the place to rent, so me and my now husband decided to homestead it out out in the woods up there. So we drove up the road to like mile markeror eight, got out and looked around, nothing really there, and then we got to mile mark or nine and it goes into like this huge horseshoe loop, like.

2:10 Like a it was like a staging area for logging. At one time it looked like and we were like, oh, well, this is where we're going to park the RV in the trailer and we're going to be right here for a while. So we finished out the rest of the camping season up there and going to work just kind of homesteading it. Nobody ever bothered us. BLM came through, they didn't say nothing to us. And then it was the first rain of the spring season after that, and one night, I'm laying in the motorhome and something I could hear something running through the forest and it was big. It jumped on top of our motor home, shook the motor home and like shook.

2:54 Me in the bed, and I was like, what was that? So then I can hear my husband and his friend outside trying to cover up all the tools that they've got because it's raining. They're trying to cover everything up with plastic. And they were like, are you. Okay in there? And I was like, yeah, Can I come sit with you guys in the trailer for a little bit. They're like yeah, sure, come on. What happened? And our friend Justin was like, you know what, that's what woke me up because he was sitting on the couch in his trailer and something tried to open the door. But their trailer door was like kind of tricky and you had to. Like pull it really hard in order for it to the latch to pop open, and so he said, whatever it was, wasn't familiar with the handle, so I told him what happened to me. I was like, something just came running through the woods, like as if it didn't know.

3:49 That the motor home was parked right where it was, and it hit it hard. The next day we went out and I was looking around and in the mud there were bare foot prints in the mud, not bear paw prints, bare feet. Who is running around in that forest out there with all them BlackBerry bushes, all the poison oak? I mean like barefoot. The foot was bigger than mine and I wear a size eight. It was way bigger than mine, but it was really thin. So time goes on, we don't really think anything of it, and then every single night something would come and knock on our motor home door.

4:36 There's nobody up. There, just us and the other couple that were living next to us, and that's it. And when these things were happening, all were accounted for. We were all in the same trailer everything, so it couldn't have been that person or this person out walking around or anything trying to play a joke on us or nothing like that. Then one day the. Generator stopped, so I figured, okay, I'm gonna go out there, it's just out of gas. Nope, it's got plenty of gas in it. And it was also upside down. How that happened, I have no idea, but there's no way for the generator to have rocked, rolled or done anything to be able to flip over completely onto its side, just completely upside down. Somebody would have to pick it up and turn it upside down. So we thought maybe it wasn't. It didn't like the noise that it was making.

5:32 But a little while after that, it just keeps getting better. We noticed that there were these people that would come up in white trucks, wearing like kakis and a polo, and they'd go wandering off into the woods, but you could never find where they went because there was only so many trails, and then it became like where you had to walk along the logs to be able to get anywhere. Through the forest. Right there, it's pretty thick, and these guys would disappear for hours and come back late at night, jump in their trucks and be gone. And they were nicely dressed. They weren't dressed for hiking out in the woods, so it was kind of odd that they were there, and one day, this is kind of scary, a lady pulled up right there with a little boy, maybe three or four years old, and.

6:29 Went into the woods. The next morning she came out by herself, and we didn't know where the little boy went, so of course we reported it to authorities. And I sat out in the woods listening for anything, any kind of whimper, cry, any kind of sound that I could hear that was a child crying for help. And then my friend Anita goes, hey, get over here. Look so what she goes, look do you see that? And I was like what? And it looked like somebody was standing about one hundred yards away with a black hoodie on. So I started taking pictures with my phone and taking pictures of it and like.

7:13 We can see you. What are you staring at us? For? Like he was totally like watching us. When I zoomed in all these pictures on my phone, the face looked like like. A dog man. It was just very pronounced lips and eyes and it was you could see the face in this photo. It is crazy, Like we've found all kinds. Of large bare feet footprints that are like embedded in rock in that area right there. So we pretty much figured out that we kind of like moved in on their spot on accident, and there was never a dull moment up there. And we lived up there for almost a year, and eventually you kind of get used to it.

8:08 They kind of like weren't like they weren't mean or malicious or anything like that. But even to this day, my husband when we go up to the woods, because we go up there all the time, so. As it gets stark, he'sa like, all right, let's go, we got to go home now. So it's very interesting up there. Yeah, this is absolutely incredible. Is this Ivan Oaks Campground in Lull technically? Yeah, okay, that's what I've I've been looking at a map while you've been talking, and I can see that the circular area you're referring to. Yeah, the horseshoe loop is how you said it. Yep, totally got it. Yeah wow, And that's on the backside of a lookout point Lake.

8:55 Looks like yep, they got it blocked off with barricades now because other people, other people were up there and they started camping after we moved down, and they were not environmentally like staying at all, like they were not clean. They just trashed the place. So they closed it down because of that. But you can still go back there. How close. You can still hike back there. Oh, you can hike back there. You can walk. You can wipe right walk right back there. It's not that far, okay, is it? That's really interesting? So you said you have you have actual photos of what you were you were looking at, and it looked more like a dog man than than a big foot.

9:37 I mean, well, I mean, if it was, it was a juvenile right in my in my opinion, that's what it was. Because we would find like weird. Little huts like the tree that because there's a lot of dead tree root that are down there along the lake and stuff like that, and like some of the root systems are big enough for you to be able to like make a little fork out of and we would find them, but like with a tire for a door, and like there's I don't know how often. You go up there, but there's not a lot of people on that part of the lake. Everybody's down in Dexter and loll down on that part of the lake up and lookout point. You don't see very many people there. So what child is making these little forts.

10:19 Okay, so now we have we have a second location. So you're saying there's a location around the area called Lookout Point, Yeah okay, oh right, gotcha. So you're referring to the lake itself when you say that. Yeah, okay, yeah, because there's two there's like a dam and then another dam, so there's. Two different lakes up there. Kind of technically there's a reservoir and another dam. Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember driving down fifty eight on the I guess it would be the southern side of the lake that's wild oh man. Yeah, okay, I'm definitely.

11:02 Got I got a lot already to uh to look into from from this one as well, because that's over by I mean that's south of like the was it Windberry or Wineberry? How is that pronounced? Wineberry? Yeah? Wineberry? Because I know there was a a big study done. Someone had told me at Sasqua Summerfest back in the seventies by the university about the Wineberry wild man sightings by residents there, So I'm trying to get access to that. But I mean, that's that's pretty close to that same area, so I wouldn't be surprised that things are still happening today.

11:43 So let's let's Seeah, let's talk about this more here because this is really interesting. So you're saying, when you go on the north side of this lake, there's no homes back there, it's just a forest service road alongside the lake. There is, there is, but it's like I think, right before the boat launch is the last property that's. A technical address up there, and. Then everything after that is dirt road and it's uninhabited. Well, I mean there's people living in the woods out there, but oh really, it's pretty much there's no homes out there.

12:23 So you're you're talking like there's people out there, but it's off grid individuals. I mean, like they're way way like get deep, like further. They're not as close to the lake as you would find. Like, man, there's not like it's not when they say like they're homeless, they're not homeless like you would think they are, like down in the city, you know what I mean, like a bunch of people. They're more like recluse, don't talk to nobody, just minding their own business, Okay, self sustaining kind of. People, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, the kind where you may not want to go looking for them. You may not, Well, there might be certain things that are being done back there or stuff like that.

13:05 Oh yeah, it's it's definitely a different place that back here. Okay, okay, that's that's extremely interesting. I could easily see that happening just from things that I've heard about that area. Now, when you were man, you were in that area for a year, did anything out of the ordinary happen inside of the places you were living in the trailers? Or was it just outside it. Was all just like outdoor? Well, okay, now, there was one time when our back door I was having trouble getting it on, but it was like a nice day out and a nice night, so like leaving it off was not a big deal. But I remember waking up.

13:45 One early early morning it was like the butt crack of dawn to something very free reaching in and I went and it ran real quick whatever it was, and I was like what, something just tried to reach in right now? And I was like, Sean, wake up. He was like what And I was like, something just reached in and it was freaking hairy, and he was like, okay, whatever, go back to sleep, And I was like, I'm not dreamy. Oh wow, so it was was it reaching through the open door? Then? Yeah, it was like like kind of like like it was reaching. I think there was like a bowl right there or something like that. It was like the dog's food and at that's what I thought it was at first, was the dog going for her dish.

14:28 But it wasn't the same color. My dog was black and white. This one was like dark stable brown colored. Okay, wow wow, So I mean you probably only saw it for a few seconds, I'm guessing, But was it like you're saying, the arm was the size of a dog or do you have any reference point there that's. Like kind of like because I was like waking up because I. Heard a sound and I figured it was my dog going for her food dish. But when I had my eye cracked open, I was like. And it was just it was like, no, it was It wasn't like a big old bulgie like gorilla arm. It was more like a like a a long furry arm like you couldn't see skin or anything to it.

15:14 I couldn't see the hand, but I could see like the forearm and you know what I mean, like. That part of it. But it was pretty I would have to say like maybe eight inches round. Oh wow, okay, so it was bad. Yeah, where was your dog at that time? She was hiding with the boys up on the bunk. Yeah. And there were times when we were up there and like Abby wouldn't want to go outside, especially if it was dark. She didn't like being outside in the dark. So and like there would be times where like my boys would be out playing and she would hurt them away from certain areas. But I just figured it was her being, you know, mama dog. But now it kind of makes sense that she was trying to keep them away from like certain years where maybe they were or maybe one was watching or something.

16:09 Oh yeah, it sounds like, you know, she was definitely cluing into something out there. The next day after or I guess later on that day, were you able to go outside and see if there were any tracks or anything outside that door that was open? Oh yeah, see. And that's the one thing that was kind of nice about up there. I mean, everything was muddy all the time, so when anything came through, we knew we could find prints very easily, and we did every day, like there would and there was big ones. There was like wider ones and there was very narrow ones, and then there was ones that.

16:49 Were like just slightly bigger than my husband and he wears a size thirteen, so they were like there was different ones. It wasn't just like the same one. It was like a family of them. Gotcha? And how many toes would they usually have? Were you able to see toes? I guess you could see toes, but like I mean like there's like five okay, or sometimes it only looks like four. Interesting, but you could tell that it was a foot and it wasn't a bare pot. I know what bear tracks look like. I grew up in a part of California where there was bears a lot, and I know what a bear track looks like. These are not bear paws, these are bear.

17:35 Feet, right, So I'm guessing you know what double steps look like. You're well aware of how that goes. Oh yeah. By being familiar with the tracks that would be left for a year, did you ever get a feel as to how many different individuals were there? Where there's some tracks where like, Okay, this guy has you know, broken toe or anything weird like that. Not really, but. We could you could definitely tell that there was three three different individual entities whatever. You want to me call them. That there was definitely three different prints anytime, like not all the time, like there'd be one or two or maybe just the one, but there was definitely three reoccurring prints of set the Prince that we would find.

18:26 Gotcha, And you said this was after the pandemic, So would this be like twenty twenty three, what specific year do you think it was? More like twenty twenty one. Okay, I'm just gonna make a note of that real quick. When you were up there, would you ever hear any sounds out in the woods or outside that would not make sense? Well, they do to me, but you had there definitely like you got it. Like sometimes you have to kind. Of think about things, because fox when they're mating, they sound like people screaming. Corvids are really good trickery birds when you're out in the woods because they sound just like humans when they talk. They don't have a mechanical sound to them like a parrot does. So there could be corvids out there talking to you when you're in the woods, but when a bigfoot, like, oh my gosh, the sound that we heard one night was like an.

19:34 Indian war cry. Howl, screech, all put together. It was the most insane sound that I had ever heard in my life, and I was like, what the was that? And it sounded I'm getting goosebumps right now just talking about it. It was close. It was less than fifty yards away from us when we heard it, and we were just say, it was instinct. I've never heard anything sound like that ever in my life, not in real life. I've heard things similar to it, like during the Bigfoot shows and stuff like that when they have recordings and stuff. But it was so intense, I was like, what what was that? I couldn't even mimic it if I wanted to, but.

20:18 It was crazy. Was there ever anything that sounded like it could be a form of language or maybe like short multiple or I guess maybe short utterances that would have like one or two syllables anything. I thought, nothing like that. No, Okay, okay. After the situation, which I mean, I can tell if I had experienced it as well as it would be very hard for me to talk about. But you had the individual that had brought the young child and they went out in the words, and then she came out without this young child. Do you remember if there was anything in the paper or anything about a missing child that would fit that description.

21:14 In the months afterwards, not that I remember, but what we had heard about up there was that there was like these these places that they're doing geno splicing with human DNA and creating creatures. And stuff like that out in those woods. And my friend had found one of the notebooks and it's crazy. It talks about spicing genes with humans and bees. And these are scientific notes and a little notebooks, like you know, a little three by five carry in your pocket and stuff. These are notes very nicely handwritten about splicing humans in.

21:57 DNA with bees. And then you kind of get like all these cryptid creatures and not knowing what's going on up there, and like people, I wonder as if it's like something that they created and escaped or something like that, because those guys were up there in them woods and you can never find where they would go down the trail. Interesting that they would always they would go in and come out. I mean, like with white T shirts on. Who goes hiking in the woods with a white T shirt on? Right? Nobody come on out and they were clean when they come back out. It was just very odd that they I mean, like they would make sure nobody was looking when they went to their little secret. However, they were getting wherever they were going because we could never find them.

22:46 So the notebook that was found, where was that found exactly in the area. It was back behind if you go to the right as you first come into that horseshoe and you go back there, there is a trail that leads down to a cove that's back down behind there. It was found down by that cove. And then that's where Banister Creek runs into. Is that right? I think it is? Yeah, I think I see the cove definitely that you're talking about, because the road like curves around the cove if you keep going.

23:27 Right, okay, yeah, and then it hit that straight away right there. Yeah, that's the that's the cove. So it was just laying there and she found it. She found it. Yeah, Oh my goodness. I don't know what to think about this area anymore because it. Sounds so crazy, like it's a whole made of story. But I promise you this is one. Absolutely, and I believe you because I've it's it's not just bigfoot reports. I've taken from this area. Now we have dog Man. I also have talked to an individual that talked about gnomes. She's seen gnomes multiple times in indust Yeah, that won't come on the show. Talking about ferries multiple things. Oh yeah, oh yeah, we've we've experienced all of that up there, like I have. There's so much to tell and so little time. Like it isn't in any of the stories that you.

24:18 Could think of. I've experienced them up there, and I'm not from Oregon. I just moved up here. This is like year two of me living in Oregon that this all happened. And like we have pictures of doorways, of giants, caves, like all kinds of stuff back there, Like it's a very interesting forest. And that's in the hills behind the campground. Yeah interesting. Okay, they're like the hunting like hunting roads that they open up during hunting season and stuff like that. It's on the opposite side of the power lines. Okay, Oh my goodness.

25:06 So at any time when you were up there, do you feel like there was any type of communication that would go on between individuals, let's say, in your party and any of the three bigfoot that would be around your trailers. Or in the woods. Well, we would talk to them, you know what I mean, like when they would knock and stuff like that. Okay, we know you guys are out there. We'd leave them gifts. We'd go get fruit and bring food back and leave pairs and watermelons and whatever was in season out for them and they would take it. Okay, you know, like we kept the peace. So did the giftings start before they started messing with you guys or was that before?

25:52 Oh no, it definitely started happening as soon as that, Like we kind of like figured out, okay. Maybe we're in their spot. Okay, something definitely out there, so we should be nice to it. Okay, so you start hanging out there, they start messing around, you bring fruit into the situation. Did things get better after you did that or were they just the same, Well. They weren't flipping our generator over anymore? Okay, All right, well there you go. Okay, so just basic you know you said, just basic fruit you would get from the grocery store, nothing special. Yeah, okay, And how would you present these to them out there?

26:33 Like leave them in a pile or how would you do that? We would find like a stump that was like tabletop high, you know what I mean. And it's not hard to find those out there and just leave them out there and. Just say it out loud, like here you guys, go for you how about it? And then walk away, you know that way I mean, because it was like they could understand it what we were saying. But the communication with them we never heard, like we never heard them men to kate back and forth to each other, and it was always dark when they were like really present, so it's kind of hard to tell. And by oh, never hurt them.

27:13 By really present, you mean like actually there and flipping over generators and stuff. Oh to where you could you could tell that there was something standing in the butcheres over there, there's something over there in that tree. There's there's somebody sitting there, like you could see them, but like silhouette silhouette figures of and you know that it's them. So like we would respect the fact that they didn't like the lights bright, and we figured out that's why they're flipping our generator off because they didn't like. The bright lights. It makes sense because once the generator was cut out, they would they would definitely come out to play. That's when the knocking would start on the side of the trailer, and that's when we would hear things moving around. A lot of tree snaps stopped when we were when we started giving them fruit.

27:55 Like, so a tree snap to me is them pitching a fit. So there's a bunch tree snaps and you've got an angry sasquatch roaming around that's mad about something. Absolutely, So it sounds like you had multiple times where you actually had a sighting of something in that area. Yes, okay, were there any times that were as clear as when you saw that arm reach into your trailer. That day? Then when my friend called me over and was like, look, look, look there's somebody standing right there. Oh, was that incident? A couple of nights like where we'd be outside just hanging out with the fire and you could hear something walk through the trees and you could kind of see you can see somebody, but it's not a person.

28:42 It's too big. And it's the way they move is not it's almost like they're like floating, not floating, but they're moving so smoothly. That it's it's almost unreal. So that they move with the wind, it's crazy. That's something I've always because I haven't had a sighting yet, but I've always wondered how how that works with mechanics of the creature, because it's like they just glide across, but they've got to be you know, I would imagine bending the knees to walk. But just the way that it's always explained is so so very interesting.

29:27 I think, like it's it feels like whatever their environment is, they're going to move to that, you know what I mean. If they're in really tall grass and it's like hard getting over lumps, is I mean, like we all look the same climate over stuff, you know what I mean, So they're going to look like that too. But when they're in a nice cleared area that's just pretty much grass and just overgrown, you know what I mean, they float, they flow through it like it's like they're and then they're not. And but I mean you can tell it the solid figure, you know what I mean. It's just it's very strange. Right. Based on what you experienced in that year, were you and your party looking at them, well, I guess I guess I'll ask this, how how would you describe what they were? Are we looking at maybe some undiscovered apes out there or some kind of forest person or what do you think.

30:26 I feel like it was it's like the way the natives saw them, more like they were not gods but higher beings, and we just respected them the way that they would have been respected, you know. So we just kind of. Treat they were just part of like our everyday life, our everyday regime. Like if there wasn't a night that didn't go by, the day didn't come knock, and it was it was almost kind of sad when we when we moved down the mountain, we got up. We ended up getting a house out in Dexter and staying out there for the another two years and so everything. I mean, we'd go up to the woods all the time still just to be And it is crazy because we can go out there.

31:15 I could take you out there and guess what they'll be there? Sure, Oh absolutely, I mean I have no no question in that. Based on things I heard and experienced in that area. When you were leaving fruit, there would there be things that were left in your area in return. Oh yeah, we'd get cool crystals all the time. Gifted crystals. Wow, okay, yeah, I've got I've got quite a few of them left over because well, my husband told me our storages it wasn't for rocks, and I. Was like, well, then what did we get it for? So I had to give up a couple of them.

31:56 So do you know, I'm not really trained in that topic. Were there different types of crystals or different colors or anything specific about them. There is a crystal cave up there at mirl mark or fifteen, it's right before it, and I believe they came from there. But also up there on the opposite side on Highway fifty eight, there's a place called Crystal Beach, And I mean there are agates and sugar crystals and just big quartz crystals, all kinds of different beautiful rocks all over that lake. So I'm pretty sure there were local.

32:38 No that that makes perfect sense. I mean, if they're so readily available, that, yeah, they would definitely be from the area. Were any of them in a particular shape or anything that might have extra meaning for. You, I wouldn't necessarily say like extra meaning. But they were always really large. Like I have one that I call my megalogon tooth because it's about the size of a megalogon tooth and it's shaped like it too. Wow. And it was left after we left them bananas and grapes one day. And I mean, this thing, the sucker is heavy. And I love that thing that that thing doesn't leave my house, it doesn't go anywhere.

33:21 I love it. I look at it every single day because that thing is so cool. It's huge and all just because we left them some bananas and grapes one day. The okay, so you leave the fruit there and then after they eat it, is there anything left from the fruit? Okay? Now this is weird. The banana peels were peeled from the bottom, not from the top, like you know when you break it from this little bunch and stuff like that, you grab the long piece on the top and you pull it down. These were from the bottom. Okay. I've never seen anybody eat bananas like cash.

34:03 But you're saying they were appealed. Yeah, they were peeled and they were left. The peals were left, that is I mean. And I was always looking for some kind of fur or something on there, and like, can never find nothing. So they're they're good. Yeah. Did you hear anything that happened when we went out in the woods and there was a similar thing that happened different area of Oakridge, but there was an individual who left throughout like you guys did. This is like way way way out in the sticks. And next day there the banana was actually peeled. It was taken off of the tree and the peel was left on the ground, which is I mean just that here's something else like this has happened in the same area.

34:49 That's amazing. Wow, it was giving just thinking about there's so much, so much that has happened up there. So during this time, just to double check, there was never anything that happened that could be felt as potentially paranormal or hearing weird voices anything like that. Well, there's definitely some weird stuff going on up there, whether it be paranormal or government paranormal or whatever however you want to proceed it. I'm definitely one there's stuff up there like it would be weird. You could be standing because most of the trees that are out there are like they're like match stick trees where they've got all their tops and stuff like that, you know what I mean. And you can see wind moving through these trees, but only in a certain area, like it's not like the whole area. It's just like in a certain spot and you can hear it, but it's like a faint like quieter than a drone kind of the sound, and it looks like something moving through the trees, but there's nothing there but the wind. So there's there's definitely weird things that have happened up there.

36:12 That's that's extremely interesting. When you were up there, what were the the normal sounds of the forest. Besides that there. Weren't any That's another thing that was very string There's quiet, dead quiet, not even bark beetles, no frogs, no crickets, nothing. But there's cougars up there, there's gear up there. I see them, but you don't hear nothing. It is silent. It is creepy silent. How often would it be silent like that? Verse all the time, all the. Time, Okay, all the time all the time.

36:52 So I have experienced that in short bursts around Oakridge, and I'm curious, how did being in that type of silence affect you physically? It made me more aware of my surroundings because I'm the kind of weird person that enjoys my alone time. I like to be alone, I like to have nobody bothering me for a mom, I need this? Can you make that? Do we have this? I like silence and being up there in the woods is like it's serenity to me. I love being up there.

37:32 And when it's that quiet, you become very well aware of every little crack, branch, grass blade, move in anything. It heightens your senses, It really does, if you focus on it, you know what I mean, kind of like a meditation kind of thing. So it definitely it makes me more aware. Yeah, absolutely, I mean something I had noticed myself was it would feel like the pressure would change in some way. I remember. It was very very strange, extremely strange and hard to explain.

38:13 Just the pressure in your ears would always they for me anyways, they would mess get messed with. But so anytime, you know, you guys are experiencing really weird stuff out there, you saw some really weird stuff, people going into the woods, perhaps even missing people or missing person at any time were you did you reach out to any authorities or anyone like that or any rangers. We did. When the lady came back out of the woods without the kid, yeah, because that was just like way too weird, Like where did he go?

38:55 Where? Did you put him? Because they didn't go into the woods with very much, went into the woods with just them. And when we went and looked and checked out the car, the car was like immaculately clean, like a rental. They had nothing in it, so it was like, well, that's kind of odd. And then they were there overnight, and then the lady came out the next morning back herself, and it was like, okay, what's. Really going on? And we called the police instantly. Yeah, okay, so they they came there, you guys checked out the rental. She left the next day without the kid. Yep, Wow, what did the What did the police say?

39:41 They just wanted to know which way they went. We showed them what direction. They said that they didn't have any anything about a missing child report or anything like that, so there wasn't that much that they could do about it. And it was like, I know, you guys got game for okams or something up here, Like, come on, was that. A certain time a year in twenty twenty one that that happened. It was in springtime? Springtime? Wow, you said that. There's also other weird things that you're experiencing up there that may not be Bigfoot related. Is that anything that you'd be able to share about potentially, Yeah.

40:25 I think there's definitely some kind of. From what I have been told, there is pretty much like the Army Force is what pretty much runs those reservoirs and those dams right up there. And what I've been told is that there's a. Complete underground city underneath those dams, like big enough to house everybody if there was an emergency. Situation kind of thing. You can tour them as a matter of fact in Cottage Grove and they're complete cities underground. So this is government property. So I mean, I did find a couple of maps a few years back and let Third Phase of Moon just go and talk about them for the first time, and they were for alien research diagnostic facilities.

41:18 These were governmental maps that I had found, and there were spots I went all the way up to Washington and about not even to the Midwest before it like maybe as far out as Utah, and it had underground bases on it, and up there was one of the bases on the map. So if it's for alien research diagnostic facilities, I'm assuming that the government is probably doing some stuff up there with UAP or UFOs, whatever you want to call them, there's definitely something going on. I'm rises calls even going still without being shut down at least one time. Usually they would get shut down for stuff like this, just like click.

42:08 And one thing that one thing that I that I that is also very strange to me is that there is fiber optic cable ran up that back road. Why isn't it on Highway fifty eight. Highway fifty eight is very well traveled, but there is fiber optic cable. Yes, because there's little orange poles and say, careful costing fiber optic cable buried here all the way up going wherew what? So? Where did you? Where did you find those maps? Was that like an online thing. Or that you know? I was in California. I was cleaning out a trailer that my mother in law had in her backyard and underneath the murphy bed were these maps and I was like, there's no way these are real and authenticated. Even the base off of Mountain is picked it on these maps.

43:02 Yea, and that anomaly is no longer visible. Through Google Earth exactly sure, but it's on that map. So who were you able to authenticate them with? Third phase in the moon. It's another YouTube channel. Oh okay, is that more? Are they more like aliens or do they cryptids and stuff? Yeah? Okay, they do crypti stuff too, but mostly UFOs aliens and stuff like that. That's cool. So do you still have those in your possession? Those are with my best friend in California who has them under lock and pee, because I didn't want to lose them when we moved up here to the origin. Yeah, probably probably a wise move. Do you know then?

43:43 How you get tours of the underground facilities in Cottage Grove. In Cottage Grove and there is a place called Schwartz Park And during the summertime they have a little thing at the booth there where you can go and sign up to go on one of these tours. Interesting, they only take like twelve people at a time, but if there's always spots open. I mean, it's something that they do for the kids to entertain the kids at the campgrounds. Okay, they'd rather be inside on their cell phones, you know. Yeah, exactly. If only they knew what was out in the woods out there, if only. They knew so. And this is overrid Durana Lake, is that right?

44:25 Yeah? Okay, so the tour actually takes you under ground. Yeah. Oh wow, that's fun. Hm, very very interesting. Just trying to think, real quick thinking thinking thinking, oh after you left, so the after the year there and you left to go other places, nothing weird followed you, guys, Nothing continued to happen that was out of the ordinary. There was. For a couple month afterwards, when we first moved back down into Dexter, which is just right down the mountain, there was we called him the whistler.

45:10 Every night about three o'clock in the morning, you'd hear and we're like, what is that? And again it would whistle again, So then we'd whistle back to it, and then it would stop. But it happened every night for a good four or five months after we moved down out of that mountain. That's really strange. Wow, No one ever in the group ever had anything where they're having thoughts up here in their mind that are definitely not theirs or conversations anything.

45:55 I thought, No, okay, I know that's that's a weird question ask but it is sometimes reported, and it's I get it. It's weird to talk about. So after you've lived through this year in this campground. Did you also talk about it with other people in the community, and these people are like, yeah, we've had stuff happen there too, anything, I thought, yeah, we have. It's it's weird because it's like a normal thing out there. People are like, oh yeah, you know, Oh yeah we've seen it. Oh yeah we've been there. No way, like it's nothing. Yeah, Like it's totally normal, which I mean in a sense if you if you lived out there and you grew up out there your whole life it is, you wouldn't know any different. But when you're you know, moving up here from California, living down there for thirty two years, born and raised, and all of a sudden you come up here, it's a big change.

46:55 I mean, like I was into UFOs and Bigfoot and all that stuff. So it's not like it was a new thing to me, but like actually getting to experience it that was wild. Yeah. No, that's a life change. Well, how how has this changed your life ever since you lived through that? Here? Nothing is as it seems to be. I mean, like you really start to wonder about all those crazy people or all the conspiracy theorists. Are they really all that crazy or are. They really telling you the truth, and they just they don't know how to explain it, so they sound odd, you know what I mean.

47:37 No, I totally get it. I mean, And that's the thing where that it just has to happen if there's ever going to be you know, more knowledge shared about this is that you know, hopefully more and more people get to the point where they're like, you know, I'm not scared of sharing this anymore. Doesn't matter if I get weird looks or anything. But it's just the more and more people share what happened to them, the more it's out there, right, And I think that's that's important. What is the what's the weirdest thing that you've heard about this area?

48:17 Oh, Marna's that there's cannibals that live up there and to be very very careful about being up there because they are out there. Okay, So that's that's a turn that I was not expecting for this area. So that's in the same north of Lookout Point Lake area. You're saying there's cannibals up there. Pretty much anything that's on the Malamit in the Malammt about the Wilamit, that there is there up in the Blue River area. There's cannibals up there, these people a humans. It's crazy and I've never met them. I don't personally know these people, but I have heard.

49:04 Stories of people interrogating one such soul and him breaking down and admitting to it. Oh wow, so there's law enforcement of some type interrogated an individual who confessed. So were they finding like something must have kicked that off to the I think I heard a story once about there was a skull found in this area. Yeah. They find bodies. They find body parts up there a lot, and they're not always the whole thing. It's just pieces of people. And it's very sad. But it's very scary because monsters are real and they are not under your bed, you know what I mean. So it's just be cautious and be careful, be aware of your surroundings, don't be afraid of and don't worry about the cryptids in the woods.

49:59 Worry about the people. It's yeah, exactly, it's the people you need to be worried about. One hundred percent. I agree with that. Yeah, are there any weird things you've heard about the Oakridge area specifically? I'm I'm sure my friend Daniel's got a lot of good stories to tell about that place, but we never really furthest we ever got up into Oakres was going up to the hot springs up there, and that's pretty much the only adventure we ever had going up there. But I mean, like, yeah, we definitely are never really went past mile mark of twenty six up Boundary Line Road as pretty much as far as we would go.

50:43 I mean, there's some really cool spots back there, bill fishing and stuff like that. I mean, it's not all spooky. There are beautiful places in that in them woods, and I would enjoy them. But if you're a person that just can't take that kind of stuff, don't be in there after dark. Yeah, yeah, no, I totally get it. So you're saying that, I mean it sounds like if you're even thinking about going to this area, you need to be you need to be prepared for the potential if something happening. Maybe we definitely don't go up there unarmed, like because like I said, I'm not worried about the animals and the crypt is the people, right, It's the people. So because it's like, man, it's hard to get over there because it's like you've got what you've got, the one bridge cross lookout point, and then I'm trying to find like how else you would get onto that road.

51:34 I guess there's at the very top of a highway fifty eight from westfer pretty much the only way you can get over to boundary boundary line road. That's wild, Holy mackerel. Would you ever want to have any things like this happen again? Well, we go out there regularly, that's true. I mean you are trying to do it. Yeah, I mean like we we go and we enjoy our time in the woods and like we're not afraid of this place. My husband's a little spooked when he gets dark. He's like, what's that sound? Oh my gosh. But right, they've done anything. They've never done anything malicious, never done anything mean or like well, I mean other than slipping our generator over that kind of was like, oh come on, guys. But you know, like it's never been a I'm fearing for my life kind of moment out there.

52:28 Never how how heavy you was that generator. It was a sixty two fifty generak, so it ran six two hundred and fifty watts of power. It's a big boy Okay, wow. Now there's there's multiple accounts I've taken where they'll be a very loud machine and they'll try to break down the door to stop the noise. I've taken one of those from Western Oklahoma. I believe, so that is that makes perfect sense that that would have happened to you.

53:12 Do you have any advice for you know, let's say there's individuals they try to go out in an area like this in a group and try to have some kind of of connection with whatever's out there. I feel like when. There are people are out there and they're making all the noise and they're doing the hoots and the calls and the knocks, they don't really respond to that. When you're out there and you're quiet and you're being respectful of their land, their home, and then they will put on a show for you. They will, but you have to be patient. I feel like, don't force something because if you, I mean really think about it, if somebody's making all that noise in your house, what's not gonna do.

54:09 It's gonna make you mad, right, So of course you're gonna start throwing rocks and stuff like that. But if your people are in your home and they're being respectful and quiet. Then you host and you put on a show for them, you know what I mean. So my only advice would be just be quiet and wait. It will happen. They will come. They're out there and they will come. That's that's good advice, and it it lines up with a lot of other people that I've heard accounts that are similar from. Yeah, this is some some wild stuff, Brenda.

54:49 I mean, I've got a lot of stuff to look into after this one, but yeah, I just want to say, uh, thank you for coming on and for sharing what you guys experienced during during twenty twenty one that year. Extremely extremely interesting stuff and just adds to kind of everything that's going on in this area. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you would wanted to share on the program today. Oh yes, awesome. Well, if things continue to happen, or if things happen in the future, feel free to reach out. You can always send me an email or you have my contact info.

55:35 I'd love to hear about it. I will do. Is there any new events that happened, You'll be the first to know about it. Okay, I just want to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Big for Society podcast. Brenda's story is one of those rare encounters that chills you not because of what you see, but because of what you feel watching from the trees. It's a huge thanks to Brenda for sharing what she and her family experience in the forest above Lookout Point Lake from the Knox the footprints that your silence in the moment when something reached through her open door. If you enjoy this conversation, please subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the bell icons you don't miss any new episodes, and share this one with a friend who's in a Bigfoot, strange government secrets, or just a wild organ mystery. And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and make sure you're following the show, and if you'd be willing to leave a review, it really helps more listeners find us now. If you or someone you know us had a bigfoot encounter, especially in Oregon near Oakridge, Dexter or the Willamette National Forest, I'd love to hear from you, so please shoot me an email at Big for Society at gmail dot com. And also, don't forget Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July eleventh through the twelfth the Greenwaters Park in Oakridge, Oregon. Big for Society listeners can grab a two day pass for the price of a one day admission with code.

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