May 29, 2025

Three Bigfoot Surrounded Our Trailer! | Lowell, Oregon

Three Bigfoot Surrounded Our Trailer! | Lowell, Oregon
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Season 1

What happens when a couple decides to homestead deep in the Oregon wilderness — and ends up living with something far more powerful than they expected? In this chilling and mysterious episode, we sit down with Brenda, a local artist from Eugene, Oregon, who shares the shocking events that unfolded during a year-long stay near Ivan Oakes Campground. From violent encounters with an unseen creature that leapt onto their RV roof, to daily visits from something that left enormous bare footprints in the mud, this story only gets stranger. Brenda recounts eerie knocks in the night, a flipped generator, a hairy arm reaching into her home — and sightings of mysterious men in white polos disappearing into the woods. And then there’s the missing boy. The strange notebook. The wind that moves without warning. If you thought you knew what lurks in Oregon’s forests... think again.

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You're listening in to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Tonight's story is about a woman who lived off grid

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for an entire year in a forgotten pocket of Oregon

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forest just outside of Oakridge. Something surrounded her trailer night

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after night, leaping on the roof and leaving bare human

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like footprints in the mud the next morning, three of them,

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different sizes, always circling. It's what Brenda lived through night

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after night. This is the Ivan Oaks Incident. So stay

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with us, all right, Big for Society. You've got the

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privilege of talking to Brenda today. Brenda is a local

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to the Eugene, Oregon area artist. She just reached out

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to me a few days ago about some really interesting

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things she had happen in the vicinity of Oakridge, Oregon.

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So welcome to the show, Brenda. How's it going.

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Today, Ben?

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How are you doing great? I you know, ever since

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you reached out, I've been looking forward to this one,

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especially because you know, as we were talking and about before,

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this is one of my favorite places in the world.

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It's so beautiful in this area. The lam At National

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Forest is incredible. There's a lot going on there that

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people don't realize. So looking forward to hearing what you

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have to share and we'll talk about it for sure.

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But Brenda, feel free to take us back to when

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these interesting things started happening to you in the Oak

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Ridge organ area.

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Okay, this was a couple of years ago, was during COVID,

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like well at the tail end of it, and we

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were camping up in Ivan Oaks, which is a boundary

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line road. It's the backway to west for an Oakridge.

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We were up there camping and we were kind of

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having a hard time fund and the place to rent,

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so me and my now husband decided to homestead it

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out out in the woods up there. So we drove

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up the road to like mile markeror eight, got out

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and looked around, nothing really there, and then we got

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to mile mark or nine and it goes into like

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this huge horseshoe loop, like.

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Like a it was like a staging area for logging.

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At one time it looked like and we were like, oh, well,

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this is where we're going to park the RV in

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the trailer and we're going to be right here for

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a while. So we finished out the rest of the

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camping season up there and going to work just kind

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of homesteading it. Nobody ever bothered us. BLM came through,

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they didn't say nothing to us. And then it was

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the first rain of the spring season after that, and

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one night, I'm laying in the motorhome and something I

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could hear something running through the forest and it was big.

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It jumped on top of our motor home, shook the

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motor home and like shook.

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Me in the bed, and I was like, what was that?

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So then I can hear my husband and his friend

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outside trying to cover up all the tools that they've

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got because it's raining. They're trying to cover everything up

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with plastic. And they were like, are you.

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Okay in there?

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And I was like, yeah, Can I come sit with

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you guys in the trailer for a little bit.

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They're like yeah, sure, come on. What happened?

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And our friend Justin was like, you know what, that's

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what woke me up because he was sitting on the

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couch in his trailer and something tried to open the door.

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But their trailer door was like kind of tricky and

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you had to.

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Like pull it really hard in order for it to

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the latch to pop open, and so he said, whatever

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it was, wasn't familiar with the handle, so I told

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him what happened to me. I was like, something just

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came running through the woods, like as if it didn't know.

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That the motor home was parked right where it was,

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and it hit it hard.

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The next day we went out and I was looking

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around and in the mud there were bare foot prints

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in the mud, not bear paw prints, bare feet. Who

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is running around in that forest out there with all

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them BlackBerry bushes, all the poison oak? I mean like barefoot.

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The foot was bigger than mine and I wear a

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size eight. It was way bigger than mine, but it

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was really thin. So time goes on, we don't really

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think anything of it, and then every single night something

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would come and knock on our motor home door.

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There's nobody up.

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There, just us and the other couple that were living

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next to us, and that's it.

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And when these things were happening, all were accounted for.

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We were all in the same trailer everything, so it

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couldn't have been that person or this person out walking

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around or anything trying to play a joke on us

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or nothing like that.

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Then one day the.

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Generator stopped, so I figured, okay, I'm gonna go out there,

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it's just out of gas. Nope, it's got plenty of

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gas in it. And it was also upside down. How

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that happened, I have no idea, but there's no way

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for the generator to have rocked, rolled or done anything

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to be able to flip over completely onto its side,

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just completely upside down. Somebody would have to pick it

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up and turn it upside down. So we thought maybe

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it wasn't. It didn't like the noise that it was making.

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But a little while after that, it just keeps getting better.

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We noticed that there were these people that would come

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up in white trucks, wearing like kakis and a polo,

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and they'd go wandering off into the woods, but you

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could never find where they went because there was only

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so many trails, and then it became like where you

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had to walk along the logs to be able to

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get anywhere.

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Through the forest.

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Right there, it's pretty thick, and these guys would disappear

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for hours and come back late at night, jump in

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their trucks and be gone.

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And they were nicely dressed.

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They weren't dressed for hiking out in the woods, so

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it was kind of odd that they were there, and

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one day, this is kind of scary, a lady pulled

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up right there with a little boy, maybe three or

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four years old, and.

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Went into the woods.

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The next morning she came out by herself, and we

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didn't know where the little boy went, so of course

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we reported it to authorities. And I sat out in

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the woods listening for anything, any kind of whimper, cry,

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any kind of sound that I could hear that was

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a child crying for help. And then my friend Anita goes, hey,

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get over here.

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Look so what she goes, look do you see that?

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And I was like what?

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And it looked like somebody was standing about one hundred

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yards away with a black hoodie on. So I started

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taking pictures with my phone and taking pictures of it

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and like.

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We can see you. What are you staring at us?

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For?

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Like he was totally like watching us.

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When I zoomed in all these pictures on my phone,

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the face looked like like.

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A dog man.

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It was just very pronounced lips and eyes and it

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was you could see the face in this photo.

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It is crazy, Like we've found all kinds.

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Of large bare feet footprints that are like embedded in

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rock in that area right there. So we pretty much

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figured out that we kind of like moved in on

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their spot on accident, and there was never a dull

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moment up there. And we lived up there for almost

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a year, and eventually you kind of get used to it.

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They kind of like weren't like they weren't mean or

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malicious or anything like that. But even to this day,

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my husband when we go up to the woods, because

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we go up there all the time, so.

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As it gets stark, he'sa like, all right, let's go,

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we got to go home now. So it's very interesting

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up there.

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Yeah, this is absolutely incredible. Is this Ivan Oaks Campground

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in Lull technically? Yeah, okay, that's what I've I've been

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looking at a map while you've been talking, and I

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can see that the circular area you're referring to. Yeah,

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the horseshoe loop is how you said it. Yep, totally

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got it. Yeah wow, And that's on the backside of

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a lookout point Lake.

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Looks like yep, they got it blocked off with barricades

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now because other people, other people were up there and

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they started camping after we moved down, and they were

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not environmentally like staying at all, like they were not clean.

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They just trashed the place. So they closed it down

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because of that. But you can still go back there.

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How close.

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You can still hike back there. Oh, you can hike

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back there. You can walk. You can wipe right walk

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right back there.

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It's not that far, okay, is it?

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That's really interesting? So you said you have you have

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actual photos of what you were you were looking at,

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and it looked more like a dog man than than

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a big foot.

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I mean, well, I mean, if it was, it was

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a juvenile right in my in my opinion, that's what

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it was.

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Because we would find like weird.

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Little huts like the tree that because there's a lot

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of dead tree root that are down there along the

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lake and stuff like that, and like some of the

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root systems are big enough for you to be able

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to like make a little fork out of and we

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would find them, but like with a tire for a door,

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and like there's I don't know how often.

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You go up there, but there's not a lot of

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people on that part of the lake.

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Everybody's down in Dexter and loll down on that part

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of the lake up and lookout point. You don't see

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very many people there. So what child is making these

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little forts.

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Okay, so now we have we have a second location.

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So you're saying there's a location around the area called

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Lookout Point, Yeah okay, oh right, gotcha. So you're referring

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to the lake itself when you say that.

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Yeah, okay, yeah, because there's two there's like a dam

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and then another dam, so there's.

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Two different lakes up there.

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Kind of technically there's a reservoir and another dam.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Because I remember driving down fifty eight on the I

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guess it would be the southern side of the lake

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that's wild oh man.

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Yeah, okay, I'm definitely.

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Got I got a lot already to uh to look

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into from from this one as well, because that's over

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by I mean that's south of like the was it

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Windberry or Wineberry? How is that pronounced?

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Wineberry? Yeah?

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Wineberry? Because I know there was a a big study done.

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Someone had told me at Sasqua Summerfest back in the

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seventies by the university about the Wineberry wild man sightings

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by residents there, So I'm trying to get access to that.

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But I mean, that's that's pretty close to that same area,

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so I wouldn't be surprised that things are still happening today.

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So let's let's Seeah, let's talk about this more here

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because this is really interesting. So you're saying, when you

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go on the north side of this lake, there's no

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homes back there, it's just a forest service road alongside

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the lake.

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There is, there is, but it's like I think, right

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before the boat launch is the last property that's.

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A technical address up there, and.

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Then everything after that is dirt road and it's uninhabited. Well,

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I mean there's people living in the woods out there,

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but oh really, it's pretty much there's no homes out there.

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So you're you're talking like there's people out there, but

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it's off grid individuals.

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I mean, like they're way way like get deep, like further.

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They're not as close to the lake as you would find.

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Like, man, there's not like it's not when they say

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like they're homeless, they're not homeless like you would think

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they are, like down in the city, you know what

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I mean, like a bunch of people. They're more like recluse,

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don't talk to nobody, just minding their own business, Okay,

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self sustaining kind of.

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People, you know what I mean.

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Yeah, Yeah, the kind where you may not want to

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go looking for them. You may not, Well, there might

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be certain things that are being done back there or

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stuff like that.

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Oh yeah, it's it's definitely a different place that back here.

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Okay, okay, that's that's extremely interesting. I could easily see

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that happening just from things that I've heard about that area. Now,

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when you were man, you were in that area for

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a year, did anything out of the ordinary happen inside

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of the places you were living in the trailers? Or

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was it just outside it.

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Was all just like outdoor?

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Well, okay, now, there was one time when our back

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door I was having trouble getting it on, but it

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was like a nice day out and a nice night,

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so like leaving it off was not a big deal.

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But I remember waking up.

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One early early morning it was like the butt crack

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of dawn to something very free reaching in and I

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went and it ran real quick whatever it was, and

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I was like what, something just tried to reach in

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right now?

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And I was like, Sean, wake up.

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He was like what And I was like, something just

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reached in and it was freaking hairy, and he was like, okay, whatever,

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go back to sleep, And I was like, I'm not dreamy.

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Oh wow, so it was was it reaching through the

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open door?

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Then?

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Yeah, it was like like kind of like like it

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was reaching.

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I think there was like a bowl right there or

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something like that.

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It was like the dog's food and at that's what

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I thought it was at first, was the dog going

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for her dish.

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But it wasn't the same color. My dog was black

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and white. This one was like dark stable brown colored.

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Okay, wow wow, So I mean you probably only saw

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it for a few seconds, I'm guessing, But was it

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like you're saying, the arm was the size of a

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dog or do you have any reference point there that's.

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Like kind of like because I was like waking up

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because I.

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Heard a sound and I figured it was my dog

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going for her food dish.

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But when I had my eye cracked open, I was like.

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And it was just it was like, no, it was

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It wasn't like a big old bulgie like gorilla arm.

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It was more like a like a a long furry

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arm like you couldn't see skin or anything to it.

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I couldn't see the hand, but I could see like

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the forearm and you know what I mean, like.

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That part of it.

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But it was pretty I would have to say like

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maybe eight inches round.

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Oh wow, okay, so it was bad.

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Yeah, where was your dog at that time?

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She was hiding with the boys up on the bunk.

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Yeah.

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And there were times when we were up there and

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like Abby wouldn't want to go outside, especially if it

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was dark. She didn't like being outside in the dark.

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So and like there would be times where like my

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boys would be out playing and she would hurt them

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away from certain areas. But I just figured it was

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her being, you know, mama dog. But now it kind

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of makes sense that she was trying to keep them

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away from like certain years where maybe they were or

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maybe one was watching or something.

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Oh yeah, it sounds like, you know, she was definitely

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cluing into something out there. The next day after or

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I guess later on that day, were you able to

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go outside and see if there were any tracks or

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anything outside that door that was open?

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Oh yeah, see. And that's the one thing that was

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kind of nice about up there.

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I mean, everything was muddy all the time, so when

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anything came through, we knew we could find prints very easily,

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and we did every day, like there would and there

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was big ones.

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There was like wider ones and there was very narrow ones,

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and then there was ones that.

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Were like just slightly bigger than my husband and he

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wears a size thirteen, so they were like there was

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different ones.

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It wasn't just like the same one. It was like

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a family of them.

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Gotcha?

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And how many toes would they usually have? Were you

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able to see toes?

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I guess you could see toes, but like I mean

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like there's like five okay, or sometimes it only looks

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like four. Interesting, but you could tell that it was

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a foot and it wasn't a bare pot.

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I know what bear tracks look like.

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I grew up in a part of California where there

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was bears a lot, and I know what a bear

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track looks like. These are not bear paws, these are bear.

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Feet, right, So I'm guessing you know what double steps

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look like. You're well aware of how that goes.

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Oh yeah.

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By being familiar with the tracks that would be left

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for a year, did you ever get a feel as

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to how many different individuals were there? Where there's some

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tracks where like, Okay, this guy has you know, broken

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toe or anything weird like that.

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Not really, but.

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We could you could definitely tell that there was three

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three different individual entities whatever.

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You want to me call them.

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That there was definitely three different prints anytime, like not

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all the time, like there'd be one or two or

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maybe just the one, but there was definitely three reoccurring

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prints of set the Prince that we would find.

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Gotcha, And you said this was after the pandemic, So

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would this be like twenty twenty three, what specific year

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do you think it was?

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More like twenty twenty one.

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Okay, I'm just gonna make a note of that real quick.

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When you were up there, would you ever hear any

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sounds out in the woods or outside that would not

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make sense?

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Well, they do to me, but you had there definitely

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like you got it.

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Like sometimes you have to kind.

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Of think about things, because fox when they're mating, they

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sound like people screaming. Corvids are really good trickery birds

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when you're out in the woods because they sound just

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like humans when they talk. They don't have a mechanical

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sound to them like a parrot does. So there could

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be corvids out there talking to you when you're in

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the woods, but when a bigfoot, like, oh my gosh,

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the sound that we heard one night was like an.

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Indian war cry. Howl, screech, all put together.

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It was the most insane sound that I had ever

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heard in my life, and I was like, what the

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was that? And it sounded I'm getting goosebumps right now

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just talking about it.

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It was close.

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It was less than fifty yards away from us when

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we heard it, and we were just say, it was instinct.

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I've never heard anything sound like that ever in my life,

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not in real life. I've heard things similar to it,

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like during the Bigfoot shows and stuff like that when

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they have recordings and stuff. But it was so intense,

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I was like, what what was that? I couldn't even

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mimic it if I wanted to, but.

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It was crazy.

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Was there ever anything that sounded like it could be

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a form of language or maybe like short multiple or

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I guess maybe short utterances that would have like one

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or two syllables anything.

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I thought, nothing like that.

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No, Okay, okay.

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After the situation, which I mean, I can tell if

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I had experienced it as well as it would be

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very hard for me to talk about. But you had

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the individual that had brought the young child and they

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went out in the words, and then she came out

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without this young child. Do you remember if there was

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anything in the paper or anything about a missing child

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that would fit that description.

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In the months afterwards, not that I remember, but what

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we had heard about up there was that there was

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like these these places that they're doing geno splicing with

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human DNA and creating creatures.

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And stuff like that out in those woods.

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And my friend had found one of the notebooks and

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it's crazy. It talks about spicing genes with humans and bees.

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And these are scientific notes and a little notebooks, like

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you know, a little three by five carry in your

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pocket and stuff. These are notes very nicely handwritten about

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splicing humans in.

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DNA with bees.

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And then you kind of get like all these cryptid

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creatures and not knowing what's going on up there, and

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like people, I wonder as if it's like something that

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they created and escaped or something like that, because those

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guys were up there in them woods and you can

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never find where they would go down the trail. Interesting

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that they would always they would go in and come out.

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I mean, like with white T shirts on. Who goes

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hiking in the woods with a white T shirt on?

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Right?

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Nobody come on out and they were clean when they

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come back out. It was just very odd that they

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I mean, like they would make sure nobody was looking

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when they went to their little secret. However, they were

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getting wherever they were going because we could never find them.

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So the notebook that was found, where was that found

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exactly in the area.

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It was back behind if you go to the right

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as you first come into that horseshoe and you go

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back there, there is a trail that leads down to

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a cove that's back down behind there.

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It was found down by that cove.

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And then that's where Banister Creek runs into.

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Is that right?

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I think it is?

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Yeah, I think I see the cove definitely that you're

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talking about, because the road like curves around the cove

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if you keep going.

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Right, okay, yeah, and then it hit that straight away

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right there. Yeah, that's the that's the cove.

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So it was just laying there and she found it.

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She found it. Yeah, Oh my goodness.

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I don't know what to think about this area anymore

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because it.

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Sounds so crazy, like it's a whole made of story.

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But I promise you this is one.

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Absolutely, and I believe you because I've it's it's not

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just bigfoot reports. I've taken from this area. Now we

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have dog Man. I also have talked to an individual

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that talked about gnomes. She's seen gnomes multiple times in

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indust Yeah, that won't come on the show. Talking about

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ferries multiple things.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, we've we've experienced all of that

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up there, like I have. There's so much to tell

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and so little time. Like it isn't in any of

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the stories that you.

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Could think of.

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I've experienced them up there, and I'm not from Oregon.

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I just moved up here.

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This is like year two of me living in Oregon

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that this all happened. And like we have pictures of doorways,

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of giants, caves, like all kinds of stuff back there,

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Like it's a very interesting forest.

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And that's in the hills behind the campground.

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Yeah interesting.

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Okay, they're like the hunting like hunting roads that they

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open up during hunting season and stuff like that.

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It's on the opposite side of the power lines.

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Okay, Oh my goodness.

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So at any time when you were up there, do

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you feel like there was any type of communication that

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would go on between individuals, let's say, in your party

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and any of the three bigfoot that would be around

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your trailers.

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Or in the woods.

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Well, we would talk to them, you know what I mean,

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like when they would knock and stuff like that. Okay,

482
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.759
we know you guys are out there. We'd leave them gifts.

483
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.079
We'd go get fruit and bring food back and leave

484
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:41.799
pairs and watermelons and whatever was in season out for

485
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.599
them and they would take it. Okay, you know, like

486
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:45.759
we kept the peace.

487
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:50.759
So did the giftings start before they started messing with

488
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.200
you guys or was that before?

489
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.759
Oh no, it definitely started happening as soon as that,

490
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:56.640
Like we kind of like figured out, okay.

491
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:57.720
Maybe we're in their spot.

492
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:02.240
Okay, something definitely out there, so we should be nice

493
00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:02.559
to it.

494
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:06.359
Okay, so you start hanging out there, they start messing around,

495
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.319
you bring fruit into the situation. Did things get better

496
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.759
after you did that or were they just the same, Well.

497
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:15.519
They weren't flipping our generator over anymore?

498
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:16.839
Okay, All right, well there you go.

499
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.599
Okay, so just basic you know you said, just basic

500
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.920
fruit you would get from the grocery store, nothing special. Yeah, okay,

501
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:33.519
And how would you present these to them out there?

502
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.279
Like leave them in a pile or how would you

503
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:35.640
do that?

504
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:41.440
We would find like a stump that was like tabletop high,

505
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:42.680
you know what I mean. And it's not hard to

506
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.720
find those out there and just leave them out there and.

507
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.680
Just say it out loud, like here you guys, go

508
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:49.000
for you how about it?

509
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.440
And then walk away, you know that way I mean,

510
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.039
because it was like they could understand it what we

511
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.559
were saying. But the communication with them we never heard,

512
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.759
like we never heard them men to kate back and

513
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:05.039
forth to each other, and it was always dark when

514
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:10.079
they were like really present, so it's kind of hard

515
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:10.480
to tell.

516
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.400
And by oh, never hurt them.

517
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.720
By really present, you mean like actually there and flipping

518
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.359
over generators and stuff.

519
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:20.079
Oh to where you could you could tell that there

520
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.079
was something standing in the butcheres over there, there's something

521
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.680
over there in that tree. There's there's somebody sitting there,

522
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.839
like you could see them, but like silhouette silhouette figures

523
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.759
of and you know that it's them. So like we

524
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.279
would respect the fact that they didn't like the lights bright,

525
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.519
and we figured out that's why they're flipping our generator

526
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:37.640
off because they didn't like.

527
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:38.279
The bright lights.

528
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.880
It makes sense because once the generator was cut out,

529
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.680
they would they would definitely come out to play. That's

530
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:45.839
when the knocking would start on the side of the trailer,

531
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.440
and that's when we would hear things moving around. A

532
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:53.000
lot of tree snaps stopped when we were when we

533
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:54.920
started giving them fruit.

534
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.480
Like, so a tree snap to me is them pitching

535
00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:57.799
a fit.

536
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.279
So there's a bunch tree snaps and you've got an

537
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:04.920
angry sasquatch roaming around that's mad about something.

538
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.880
Absolutely, So it sounds like you had multiple times where

539
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:13.359
you actually had a sighting of something in that area. Yes, okay,

540
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:18.200
were there any times that were as clear as when

541
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.839
you saw that arm reach into your trailer.

542
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:22.799
That day?

543
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.079
Then when my friend called me over and was like, look, look,

544
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.440
look there's somebody standing right there.

545
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:28.920
Oh, was that incident?

546
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.759
A couple of nights like where we'd be outside just

547
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.680
hanging out with the fire and you could hear something

548
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.759
walk through the trees and you could kind of see

549
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.359
you can see somebody, but it's not a person.

550
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:43.599
It's too big.

551
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.519
And it's the way they move is not it's almost

552
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:54.079
like they're like floating, not floating, but they're moving so smoothly.

553
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:58.599
That it's it's almost unreal. So that they move with

554
00:28:58.640 --> 00:28:59.960
the wind, it's crazy.

555
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:04.720
That's something I've always because I haven't had a sighting yet,

556
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:10.359
but I've always wondered how how that works with mechanics

557
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:14.000
of the creature, because it's like they just glide across,

558
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.960
but they've got to be you know, I would imagine

559
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.359
bending the knees to walk. But just the way that

560
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.079
it's always explained is so so very interesting.

561
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.119
I think, like it's it feels like whatever their environment is,

562
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.160
they're going to move to that, you know what I mean.

563
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.599
If they're in really tall grass and it's like hard

564
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.079
getting over lumps, is I mean, like we all look

565
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.119
the same climate over stuff, you know what I mean,

566
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.599
So they're going to look like that too. But when

567
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.440
they're in a nice cleared area that's just pretty much

568
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:52.119
grass and just overgrown, you know what I mean, they float,

569
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.960
they flow through it like it's like they're and then

570
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.880
they're not. And but I mean you can tell it

571
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.240
the solid figure, you know what I mean. It's just

572
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:02.920
it's very strange.

573
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:03.319
Right.

574
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.680
Based on what you experienced in that year, were you

575
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.279
and your party looking at them, well, I guess I

576
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:17.480
guess I'll ask this, how how would you describe what

577
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.400
they were? Are we looking at maybe some undiscovered apes

578
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.319
out there or some kind of forest person or what

579
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:24.920
do you think.

580
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.440
I feel like it was it's like the way the

581
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:36.519
natives saw them, more like they were not gods but

582
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:42.960
higher beings, and we just respected them the way that

583
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.039
they would have been respected, you know.

584
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.599
So we just kind of.

585
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.759
Treat they were just part of like our everyday life,

586
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.039
our everyday regime. Like if there wasn't a night that

587
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:59.039
didn't go by, the day didn't come knock, and it

588
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:00.880
was it was almost kind of sad when we when

589
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.480
we moved down the mountain, we got up. We ended

590
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.960
up getting a house out in Dexter and staying out

591
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.319
there for the another two years and so everything. I mean,

592
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.039
we'd go up to the woods all the time still

593
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.680
just to be And it is crazy because we can

594
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:15.119
go out there.

595
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.160
I could take you out there and guess what they'll

596
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:18.519
be there?

597
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.880
Sure, Oh absolutely, I mean I have no no question

598
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.440
in that. Based on things I heard and experienced in

599
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.759
that area. When you were leaving fruit, there would there

600
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.440
be things that were left in your area in return.

601
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.319
Oh yeah, we'd get cool crystals all the time.

602
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.279
Gifted crystals.

603
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.880
Wow, okay, yeah, I've got I've got quite a few

604
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.920
of them left over because well, my husband told me

605
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.000
our storages it wasn't for rocks, and I.

606
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.279
Was like, well, then what did we get it for?

607
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.680
So I had to give up a couple of them.

608
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:02.839
So do you know, I'm not really trained in that topic.

609
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.599
Were there different types of crystals or different colors or

610
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.200
anything specific about them.

611
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:12.759
There is a crystal cave up there at mirl mark

612
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:17.119
or fifteen, it's right before it, and I believe they

613
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:21.119
came from there. But also up there on the opposite

614
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.960
side on Highway fifty eight, there's a place called Crystal Beach,

615
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.640
And I mean there are agates and sugar crystals and

616
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:34.160
just big quartz crystals, all kinds of different beautiful rocks

617
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.440
all over that lake. So I'm pretty sure there were local.

618
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.279
No that that makes perfect sense. I mean, if they're

619
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:45.599
so readily available, that, yeah, they would definitely be from

620
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.640
the area. Were any of them in a particular shape

621
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:53.119
or anything that might have extra meaning for.

622
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:57.880
You, I wouldn't necessarily say like extra meaning.

623
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.039
But they were always really large.

624
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.079
Like I have one that I call my megalogon tooth

625
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.000
because it's about the size of a megalogon tooth and

626
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.200
it's shaped like it too.

627
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:09.400
Wow.

628
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.640
And it was left after we left them bananas and

629
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.559
grapes one day.

630
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.799
And I mean, this thing, the sucker is heavy.

631
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.240
And I love that thing that that thing doesn't leave

632
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:21.640
my house, it doesn't go anywhere.

633
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.279
I love it. I look at it every single day

634
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:24.759
because that thing is so cool.

635
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.680
It's huge and all just because we left them some

636
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.119
bananas and grapes one day.

637
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:36.039
The okay, so you leave the fruit there and then

638
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:41.440
after they eat it, is there anything left from the fruit?

639
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.039
Okay? Now this is weird.

640
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.079
The banana peels were peeled from the bottom, not from

641
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:51.920
the top, like you know when you break it from

642
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.680
this little bunch and stuff like that, you grab the

643
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.160
long piece on the top and you pull it down.

644
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.680
These were from the bottom.

645
00:33:59.240 --> 00:33:59.599
Okay.

646
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.720
I've never seen anybody eat bananas like cash.

647
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.599
But you're saying they were appealed.

648
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.079
Yeah, they were peeled and they were left. The peals

649
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.440
were left, that is I mean.

650
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.599
And I was always looking for some kind of fur

651
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.079
or something on there, and like, can never find nothing.

652
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:17.960
So they're they're good.

653
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:23.920
Yeah. Did you hear anything that happened when we went

654
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.119
out in the woods and there was a similar thing

655
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:31.440
that happened different area of Oakridge, but there was an

656
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.159
individual who left throughout like you guys did. This is

657
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.800
like way way way out in the sticks. And next

658
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.679
day there the banana was actually peeled. It was taken

659
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.079
off of the tree and the peel was left on

660
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.760
the ground, which is I mean just that here's something

661
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:49.519
else like this has happened in the same area.

662
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:50.639
That's amazing.

663
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.320
Wow, it was giving just thinking about there's so much,

664
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.039
so much that has happened up there.

665
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:08.639
So during this time, just to double check, there was

666
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.119
never anything that happened that could be felt as potentially

667
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.639
paranormal or hearing weird voices anything like that.

668
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.719
Well, there's definitely some weird stuff going on up there,

669
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.239
whether it be paranormal or government paranormal or whatever however

670
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:32.559
you want to proceed it. I'm definitely one there's stuff

671
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.519
up there like it would be weird. You could be

672
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.000
standing because most of the trees that are out there

673
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.639
are like they're like match stick trees where they've got

674
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.119
all their tops and stuff like that, you know what

675
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:48.280
I mean. And you can see wind moving through these trees,

676
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.480
but only in a certain area, like it's not like

677
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.800
the whole area. It's just like in a certain spot

678
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:56.920
and you can hear it, but it's like a faint

679
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.679
like quieter than a drone kind of the sound, and

680
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.079
it looks like something moving through the trees, but there's

681
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:09.159
nothing there but the wind. So there's there's definitely weird

682
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:10.480
things that have happened up there.

683
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.400
That's that's extremely interesting. When you were up there, what

684
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.320
were the the normal sounds of the forest.

685
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:20.920
Besides that there.

686
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.840
Weren't any That's another thing that was very string There's quiet,

687
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:29.239
dead quiet, not even bark beetles, no frogs, no crickets, nothing.

688
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.400
But there's cougars up there, there's gear up there. I

689
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.599
see them, but you don't hear nothing. It is silent.

690
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.239
It is creepy silent.

691
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:49.000
How often would it be silent like that? Verse all

692
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:49.719
the time, all the.

693
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.840
Time, Okay, all the time all the time.

694
00:36:52.840 --> 00:37:00.079
So I have experienced that in short bursts around Oakridge,

695
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.639
and I'm curious, how did being in that type of

696
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.119
silence affect you physically?

697
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.239
It made me more aware of my surroundings because I'm

698
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.400
the kind of weird person that enjoys my alone time.

699
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.840
I like to be alone, I like to have nobody

700
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.039
bothering me for a mom, I need this?

701
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:24.760
Can you make that? Do we have this?

702
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.239
I like silence and being up there in the woods

703
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.840
is like it's serenity to me. I love being up there.

704
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.559
And when it's that quiet, you become very well aware

705
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:44.639
of every little crack, branch, grass blade, move in anything.

706
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.480
It heightens your senses, It really does, if you focus

707
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.119
on it, you know what I mean, kind of like

708
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:51.360
a meditation kind of thing.

709
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.880
So it definitely it makes me more aware.

710
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.119
Yeah, absolutely, I mean something I had noticed myself was

711
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.000
it would feel like the pressure would change in some way.

712
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:07.760
I remember.

713
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.559
It was very very strange, extremely strange and hard to explain.

714
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:17.119
Just the pressure in your ears would always they for

715
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:23.280
me anyways, they would mess get messed with. But so anytime,

716
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.679
you know, you guys are experiencing really weird stuff out there,

717
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.000
you saw some really weird stuff, people going into the woods,

718
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:36.079
perhaps even missing people or missing person at any time

719
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.320
were you did you reach out to any authorities or

720
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.639
anyone like that or any rangers.

721
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:45.760
We did.

722
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.559
When the lady came back out of the woods without

723
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.119
the kid, yeah, because that was just like way too weird,

724
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:54.280
Like where did he go?

725
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:56.559
Where? Did you put him?

726
00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.079
Because they didn't go into the woods with very much,

727
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.639
went into the woods with just them. And when we

728
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:06.559
went and looked and checked out the car, the car

729
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.960
was like immaculately clean, like a rental. They had nothing

730
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.960
in it, so it was like, well, that's kind of odd.

731
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.559
And then they were there overnight, and then the lady

732
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:23.320
came out the next morning back herself, and it was like, okay, what's.

733
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.039
Really going on? And we called the police instantly.

734
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:32.159
Yeah, okay, so they they came there, you guys checked

735
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.960
out the rental. She left the next day without the kid. Yep, Wow,

736
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.519
what did the What did the police say?

737
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.039
They just wanted to know which way they went. We

738
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.840
showed them what direction. They said that they didn't have

739
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.679
any anything about a missing child report or anything like that,

740
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.559
so there wasn't that much that they could do about it.

741
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.000
And it was like, I know, you guys got game

742
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:01.239
for okams or something up here, Like, come on, was that.

743
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.719
A certain time a year in twenty twenty one that

744
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:04.280
that happened.

745
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:06.360
It was in springtime?

746
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:07.079
Springtime?

747
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:16.480
Wow, you said that. There's also other weird things that

748
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.800
you're experiencing up there that may not be Bigfoot related.

749
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:25.599
Is that anything that you'd be able to share about potentially, Yeah.

750
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.119
I think there's definitely some kind of.

751
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.840
From what I have been told, there is pretty much

752
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.800
like the Army Force is what pretty much runs those

753
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:37.800
reservoirs and those dams right up there.

754
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.639
And what I've been told is that there's a.

755
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:46.199
Complete underground city underneath those dams, like big enough to

756
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.679
house everybody if there was an emergency.

757
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:49.199
Situation kind of thing.

758
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.400
You can tour them as a matter of fact in

759
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:58.000
Cottage Grove and they're complete cities underground. So this is

760
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:03.119
government property. So I mean, I did find a couple

761
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:07.639
of maps a few years back and let Third Phase

762
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.559
of Moon just go and talk about them for the

763
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:17.639
first time, and they were for alien research diagnostic facilities.

764
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:22.039
These were governmental maps that I had found, and there

765
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.519
were spots I went all the way up to Washington

766
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.440
and about not even to the Midwest before it like

767
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.159
maybe as far out as Utah, and it had underground

768
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.199
bases on it, and up there was one of the

769
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:43.119
bases on the map. So if it's for alien research

770
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:49.559
diagnostic facilities, I'm assuming that the government is probably doing

771
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.320
some stuff up there with UAP or UFOs, whatever you

772
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.079
want to call them, there's definitely something going on.

773
00:41:56.519 --> 00:42:03.000
I'm rises calls even going still without being shut down

774
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.039
at least one time. Usually they would get shut down

775
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.119
for stuff like this, just like click.

776
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.159
And one thing that one thing that I that I

777
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:14.000
that is also very strange to me is that there

778
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.760
is fiber optic cable ran up that back road.

779
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:19.840
Why isn't it on Highway fifty eight.

780
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.480
Highway fifty eight is very well traveled, but there is

781
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:26.800
fiber optic cable. Yes, because there's little orange poles and say,

782
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:30.679
careful costing fiber optic cable buried here all the way

783
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.320
up going wherew what?

784
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:35.480
So?

785
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.360
Where did you? Where did you find those maps? Was

786
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.039
that like an online thing.

787
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:41.079
Or that you know?

788
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.639
I was in California. I was cleaning out a trailer

789
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.280
that my mother in law had in her backyard and

790
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:51.000
underneath the murphy bed were these maps and I was like,

791
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:59.000
there's no way these are real and authenticated. Even the

792
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.480
base off of Mountain is picked it on these maps.

793
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.960
Yea, and that anomaly is no longer visible.

794
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.519
Through Google Earth exactly sure, but it's on that map.

795
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.039
So who were you able to authenticate them with?

796
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.079
Third phase in the moon. It's another YouTube channel.

797
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.440
Oh okay, is that more? Are they more like aliens

798
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:22.840
or do they cryptids and stuff?

799
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:24.360
Yeah?

800
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:27.679
Okay, they do crypti stuff too, but mostly UFOs aliens

801
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.880
and stuff like that.

802
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.079
That's cool. So do you still have those in your possession?

803
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.559
Those are with my best friend in California who has

804
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.760
them under lock and pee, because I didn't want to

805
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.480
lose them when we moved up here to the origin.

806
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.519
Yeah, probably probably a wise move. Do you know then?

807
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:47.480
How you get tours of the underground facilities in Cottage Grove.

808
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.360
In Cottage Grove and there is a place called Schwartz

809
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:56.400
Park And during the summertime they have a little thing

810
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.119
at the booth there where you can go and sign

811
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:03.360
up to go on one of these tours. Interesting, they

812
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.480
only take like twelve people at a time, but if

813
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.599
there's always spots open. I mean, it's something that they

814
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:12.079
do for the kids to entertain the kids at the campgrounds.

815
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:16.159
Okay, they'd rather be inside on their cell phones, you know.

816
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.199
Yeah, exactly. If only they knew what was out in

817
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:20.559
the woods out there, if only.

818
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.079
They knew so.

819
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.400
And this is overrid Durana Lake, is that right?

820
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:25.719
Yeah?

821
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.239
Okay, so the tour actually takes you under ground.

822
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:31.679
Yeah.

823
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:40.480
Oh wow, that's fun. Hm, very very interesting. Just trying

824
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.880
to think, real quick thinking thinking thinking, oh after you left,

825
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.480
so the after the year there and you left to

826
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:53.039
go other places, nothing weird followed you, guys, Nothing continued

827
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.280
to happen that was out of the ordinary.

828
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:56.880
There was.

829
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.480
For a couple month afterwards, when we first moved back

830
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.159
down into Dexter, which is just right down the mountain,

831
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.440
there was we called him the whistler.

832
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:13.440
Every night about three o'clock in the morning, you'd hear

833
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:17.119
and we're like, what is that?

834
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:22.719
And again it would whistle again, So then we'd whistle

835
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.000
back to it, and then it would stop. But it

836
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:31.840
happened every night for a good four or five months

837
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.280
after we moved down out of that mountain.

838
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:46.239
That's really strange. Wow, No one ever in the group

839
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.360
ever had anything where they're having thoughts up here in

840
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:54.960
their mind that are definitely not theirs or conversations anything.

841
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.639
I thought, No, okay, I know that's that's a weird

842
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:04.199
question ask but it is sometimes reported, and it's I

843
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:09.199
get it. It's weird to talk about. So after you've

844
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:14.880
lived through this year in this campground. Did you also

845
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.159
talk about it with other people in the community, and

846
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.719
these people are like, yeah, we've had stuff happen there too, anything,

847
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.400
I thought, yeah, we have.

848
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.559
It's it's weird because it's like a normal thing out there.

849
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.960
People are like, oh yeah, you know, Oh yeah we've

850
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.400
seen it. Oh yeah we've been there.

851
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.519
No way, like it's nothing.

852
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.679
Yeah, Like it's totally normal, which I mean in a

853
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.639
sense if you if you lived out there and you

854
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:42.280
grew up out there your whole life it is, you

855
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.679
wouldn't know any different. But when you're you know, moving

856
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.480
up here from California, living down there for thirty two years,

857
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.719
born and raised, and all of a sudden you come

858
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.000
up here, it's a big change.

859
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.440
I mean, like I was into UFOs and Bigfoot and

860
00:46:58.480 --> 00:46:59.360
all that stuff.

861
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:00.920
So it's not like it was a new thing to me,

862
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:07.800
but like actually getting to experience it that was wild. Yeah.

863
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.280
No, that's a life change. Well, how how has this

864
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.159
changed your life ever since you lived through that?

865
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:16.320
Here? Nothing is as it seems to be.

866
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:23.159
I mean, like you really start to wonder about all

867
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.039
those crazy people or all the conspiracy theorists.

868
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.559
Are they really all that crazy or are.

869
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:33.079
They really telling you the truth, and they just they

870
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.159
don't know how to explain it, so they sound odd,

871
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:36.000
you know what I mean.

872
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:38.599
No, I totally get it.

873
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.840
I mean, And that's the thing where that it just

874
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.840
has to happen if there's ever going to be you know,

875
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.159
more knowledge shared about this is that you know, hopefully

876
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.519
more and more people get to the point where they're like,

877
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:57.119
you know, I'm not scared of sharing this anymore. Doesn't

878
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:00.199
matter if I get weird looks or anything. But it's

879
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.320
just the more and more people share what happened to them,

880
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.800
the more it's out there, right, And I think that's

881
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.360
that's important. What is the what's the weirdest thing that

882
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.199
you've heard about this area?

883
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:24.000
Oh, Marna's that there's cannibals that live up there and

884
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.559
to be very very careful about being up there because

885
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:29.960
they are out there.

886
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.440
Okay, So that's that's a turn that I was not

887
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:38.360
expecting for this area. So that's in the same north

888
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.719
of Lookout Point Lake area. You're saying there's cannibals up there.

889
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:47.280
Pretty much anything that's on the Malamit in the Malammt

890
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.480
about the Wilamit, that there is there up in the

891
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:52.559
Blue River area.

892
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:59.000
There's cannibals up there, these people a humans. It's crazy

893
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.400
and I've never met them. I don't personally know these people,

894
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:04.320
but I have heard.

895
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:11.159
Stories of people interrogating one such soul and him breaking

896
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:12.400
down and admitting to it.

897
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.840
Oh wow, so there's law enforcement of some type interrogated

898
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:24.480
an individual who confessed. So were they finding like something

899
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:26.800
must have kicked that off to the I think I

900
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:28.960
heard a story once about there was a skull found

901
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:30.199
in this area.

902
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:30.519
Yeah.

903
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:35.679
They find bodies. They find body parts up there a lot,

904
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:41.320
and they're not always the whole thing. It's just pieces

905
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:45.960
of people. And it's very sad. But it's very scary

906
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:50.559
because monsters are real and they are not under your bed,

907
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.480
you know what I mean. So it's just be cautious

908
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.440
and be careful, be aware of your surroundings, don't be

909
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:59.119
afraid of and don't worry about the cryptids in the woods.

910
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:00.360
Worry about the people.

911
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.039
It's yeah, exactly, it's the people you need to be

912
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:08.440
worried about. One hundred percent. I agree with that. Yeah,

913
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.199
are there any weird things you've heard about the Oakridge

914
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:13.320
area specifically?

915
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.360
I'm I'm sure my friend Daniel's got a lot of

916
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.920
good stories to tell about that place, but we never

917
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.519
really furthest we ever got up into Oakres was going

918
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:28.559
up to the hot springs up there, and that's pretty

919
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.719
much the only adventure we ever had going up there.

920
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.639
But I mean, like, yeah, we definitely are never really

921
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:41.480
went past mile mark of twenty six up Boundary Line

922
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.559
Road as pretty much as far as we would go.

923
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.599
I mean, there's some really cool spots back there, bill

924
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:46.679
fishing and stuff like that.

925
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:48.280
I mean, it's not all spooky.

926
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.599
There are beautiful places in that in them woods, and

927
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.679
I would enjoy them. But if you're a person that

928
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:56.480
just can't take that kind of stuff, don't be in

929
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:57.199
there after dark.

930
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.679
Yeah, yeah, no, I totally get it. So you're saying that,

931
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:04.760
I mean it sounds like if you're even thinking about

932
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.000
going to this area, you need to be you need

933
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:10.280
to be prepared for the potential if something happening.

934
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.079
Maybe we definitely don't go up there unarmed, like because

935
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:15.719
like I said, I'm not worried about the animals and

936
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.840
the crypt is the people, right, It's the people.

937
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:23.800
So because it's like, man, it's hard to get over

938
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:27.119
there because it's like you've got what you've got, the

939
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:31.760
one bridge cross lookout point, and then I'm trying to

940
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.000
find like how else you would get onto that road.

941
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.400
I guess there's at the very top of a highway

942
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:41.119
fifty eight from westfer pretty much the only way you

943
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.599
can get over to boundary boundary line road.

944
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:46.880
That's wild, Holy mackerel.

945
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.679
Would you ever want to have any things like this

946
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:54.440
happen again?

947
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.000
Well, we go out there regularly, that's true.

948
00:51:58.039 --> 00:51:59.280
I mean you are trying to do it.

949
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.960
Yeah, I mean like we we go and we enjoy

950
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:05.679
our time in the woods and like we're not afraid

951
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:06.239
of this place.

952
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.559
My husband's a little spooked when he gets dark. He's like,

953
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:13.519
what's that sound? Oh my gosh. But right, they've done anything.

954
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.159
They've never done anything malicious, never done anything mean or

955
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.519
like well, I mean other than slipping our generator over

956
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.119
that kind of was like, oh come on, guys. But

957
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.679
you know, like it's never been a I'm fearing for

958
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.159
my life kind of moment out there.

959
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:32.519
Never how how heavy you was that generator.

960
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.880
It was a sixty two fifty generak, so it ran

961
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.159
six two hundred and fifty watts of power.

962
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.320
It's a big boy Okay, wow.

963
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.760
Now there's there's multiple accounts I've taken where they'll be

964
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:56.679
a very loud machine and they'll try to break down

965
00:52:56.679 --> 00:53:01.639
the door to stop the noise. I've taken one of

966
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:06.559
those from Western Oklahoma. I believe, so that is that

967
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.400
makes perfect sense that that would have happened to you.

968
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.800
Do you have any advice for you know, let's say

969
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.039
there's individuals they try to go out in an area

970
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.840
like this in a group and try to have some

971
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.679
kind of of connection with whatever's out there.

972
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.000
I feel like when.

973
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:34.599
There are people are out there and they're making all

974
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:36.760
the noise and they're doing the hoots and the calls

975
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.679
and the knocks, they don't really respond to that. When

976
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.559
you're out there and you're quiet and you're being respectful

977
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:56.760
of their land, their home, and then they will put

978
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.480
on a show for you. They will, but you have

979
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.400
to be patient. I feel like, don't force something because

980
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.480
if you, I mean really think about it, if somebody's

981
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.000
making all that noise in your house, what's not gonna do.

982
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.679
It's gonna make you mad, right, So of course you're

983
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.840
gonna start throwing rocks and stuff like that. But if

984
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.400
your people are in your home and they're being respectful

985
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:19.280
and quiet.

986
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.119
Then you host and you put on a show for them,

987
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:22.800
you know what I mean.

988
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:28.760
So my only advice would be just be quiet and wait.

989
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.079
It will happen. They will come. They're out there and

990
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:33.760
they will come.

991
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.239
That's that's good advice, and it it lines up with

992
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.800
a lot of other people that I've heard accounts that

993
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:49.239
are similar from. Yeah, this is some some wild stuff, Brenda.

994
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:51.360
I mean, I've got a lot of stuff to look

995
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:55.440
into after this one, but yeah, I just want to say, uh,

996
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.679
thank you for coming on and for sharing what you

997
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:07.760
guys experienced during during twenty twenty one that year. Extremely

998
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.840
extremely interesting stuff and just adds to kind of everything

999
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.719
that's going on in this area. I want to make

1000
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.119
sure that you were able to share everything that you

1001
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:24.039
would wanted to share on the program today. Oh yes, awesome. Well,

1002
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.559
if things continue to happen, or if things happen in

1003
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:32.119
the future, feel free to reach out. You can always

1004
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.960
send me an email or you have my contact info.

1005
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:36.119
I'd love to hear about it.

1006
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:38.400
I will do.

1007
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.360
Is there any new events that happened, You'll be the

1008
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:42.239
first to know about it.

1009
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.159
Okay, I just want to take a minute to say

1010
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thank you for listening to this episode of the Big

1011
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.480
for Society podcast. Brenda's story is one of those rare

1012
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:50.679
encounters that chills you not because of what you see,

1013
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.960
but because of what you feel watching from the trees.

1014
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.039
It's a huge thanks to Brenda for sharing what she

1015
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.599
and her family experience in the forest above Lookout Point

1016
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.320
Lake from the Knox the footprints that your silence in

1017
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:05.679
the moment when something reached through her open door. If

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