May 5, 2025

Three Nights With Sasquatch: What We Experienced in Granite Falls

What happens when a couple escapes the stress of the pandemic to reconnect with nature — and discovers something watching them in the shadows of the Pacific Northwest? In this chilling and deeply personal episode, we sit down with Aren, a longtime...

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Season 1

What happens when a couple escapes the stress of the pandemic to reconnect with nature — and discovers something watching them in the shadows of the Pacific Northwest? In this chilling and deeply personal episode, we sit down with Aren, a longtime Bigfoot Society listener from Eugene, Oregon, who shares their unforgettable 2020 encounter near Granite Falls, Washington. What starts as a peaceful camping trip quickly spirals into a night filled with eerie silence, otherworldly howls, UFOs, and massive footsteps crunching outside his tent in the middle of the night. Aren also shares strange experiences near Salt Creek Falls, Salmon Creek in Oakridge, and the mysterious Mary’s Peak — as well as secondhand accounts from Montesano that will send shivers down your spine. This episode is packed with deeply reflective moments on spiritual energy, instinct, and the thin veil between our world and theirs. Whether you’re a believer or just curious, you won’t want to miss this one.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Tonight's story isn't from a hunter or a hiker. It's

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from Erin, a listener originally from Eugene, Oregon, who just

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wanted a quiet weekend in the woods. But what they

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got was anything but quiet, and three nights of silence

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that felt too still, an eight hundred pound owl that

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didn't exist in lights that danced in the sky, and

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footsteps quiet but heavy, circling their tent in the middle

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of the night. Whatever was out there, it wasn't elk,

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and it wasn't alone. This is the story of Erin

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and the thing that walked beside the tent. All right,

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Big for Society. I have got the privilege of talking

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to Erin today. Erin is an individual who's a listener

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of the show from the Pacific Northwest. Reached out regarding

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some things that they would want to share today, and

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it's pleasure to have Aaron on the show. Erin, how

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are you doing today?

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I'm doing great and I'm happy to be here talking

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with you.

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Absolutely I know a little bit about what you're going

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to share, because you did share some before during your

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sign up and this area is a very interesting area.

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We've had a few people share regarding this area, so

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you know, I want to make sure you have the

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time to share everything that you need to today, Aaron. So

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I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to

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you and feel free to take us back to when

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this happened to you.

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Okay, great, Well, I'm going to talk about my personal

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experience I had. This was in twenty twenty, and it

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was you know, early COVID years, and my wife and

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I lived in Eugene, Oregon, and we had used that

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time of isolation to go out to the woods and

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you know, learned how to forage and camp, doing a

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lot of camping and just taking a lot of hikes.

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And so it's a really good time for us in

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a way because we were out in the woods a lot.

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But we missed our friends up north. So we decided

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to book this camping spot up in I would say

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Granted Falls Arlington area, and we were going to go

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visit my sister and another good friend of mine said,

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been a long time since we saw anyone. So that

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was later in the summer of two thousand and twenty,

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and we had been camping a lot, and so I

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was excited to go. But something weird happened before we left.

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I got this, like I don't know how to would

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even say. It was kind of like a message or

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a kind of a psychic message that I could have

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some kind of encounter. And I said to whatever was

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talking to me, I said, I don't really want an encounter.

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Just leave us alone, you know. And I am kind

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of a sensitive so you know, I've had a lot

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of you could say, paranormal or kind of strange experiences

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in my life, but I'm not a chaser of them,

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at least not anymore. I did in my past, and

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I just kind of want to be left alone now.

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But I did. I was very much aware of Sasquatch

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and you know, growing up in Seattle area, and you know,

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I just kind of knew that it was around, or

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I hoped it was around, let's put it that way. Anyway.

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So we hooked it up to Washington State and from Eugene,

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and the first day we arrived at this camp site,

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it was kind of like back behind it was like

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a good I don't know, a quarter mile behind this

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house and it was off, you know. We booked it

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off one of these camp sites you can you can rent,

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and it was kind of back in this kind of

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old second growth forest area, and we pulled up this

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driveway and it was like a little packed, packed gravel driveway.

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We pulled up in our truck and kind of looked around,

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set up our tents in the driveway like in front

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of the truck, and then there was a small campground

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where we could like cook and stuff and had a

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couple of logs we could sit on, so it wasn't big.

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We did. We put our tents up in the driveway.

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Behind that was the truck, and you could there was

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not a lot of room to walk, you know, up

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and down the driveway. You had to really get in

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the bushes to get in your tent, so that's kind

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of it was kind of important. And then there was

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like just to kind of like tell people there's this

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little camp site. And then off to the left there

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was this beaver pond down below, and off to the

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right where this kind of hills that went up into

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the cascades. Right it just kind of got bigger and bigger,

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and then to the north there was this ridge. It

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was pretty high up I would say about two hundred

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three hundred feet high, and you know, so it was

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kind of surrounded by you know, hills in this ridge

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then down below this beaver pond. So you're like, we're

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all cool, you know, we made some dinner, we got

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through in the afternoon, We're starting to get dinner together.

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But I just noticed like it was quiet. It was

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super quiet. And we had been camping a lot in

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in Oregon, and I thought, well, maybe, you know, maybe

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it's just kind of weird in Washington. You know, I

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haven't done a lot of camping up here, so maybe

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there's just not a lot of bug noises or birds

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or whatever. You could hear a pin drop, and the

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air was just so still. It was just like heavy,

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and I was kind of freaked out about that. And

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around the camp around the campsite is about a four

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foot hedge of salal bushes, you know, and I just gosh,

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I was like, you know, just kept kind of shining

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my my flashlight around, just make sure there was no

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eye shine, nothing watching us. I just kind of felt weird.

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That night, it got real dark, dinner was over, and

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the moon was rising, was a full moon. Still no sounds,

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no night sounds, nothing, and we were just sitting and talking,

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and all of a sudden, we hear this howl out

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in the hills behind the camp campsite, and it was

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one of those Ohio howl sounds, you know what I mean,

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Like started real low and it got kind of higher

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and it was long. And I looked at my wife

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and I said, I think we're not alone, and she

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kind of looked at me. And then we heard another

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one and I said, I know what that sound is.

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I think there's a sasquatch around here. And she was like,

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what it was probably I'm going to say about a

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mile away, but it was real loud, and I mean,

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nothing has lungs like that. A wolf doesn't have lungs

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like that. And I could tell like there was something

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out there. So I was like, okay, cool, you know

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that's cool. They're here. You know. I just said, hey,

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you know, we respect you. We're not going to do nothing.

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Just leave us alone, you know. And so we were

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sitting there and just kind of talking about that for

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a minute, and then we see up in the ridge.

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She kind of points up at the ridge and there

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are these lights up there, and you know, they're pretty

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far up there, but the lights were off off the

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ground a bit and they were like white or blank

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lights and they were moving around and I was like, well,

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that's got to be a plane, right, like we're looking

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at really high maybe the optics or something or kind

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of a optical illusion or something like that. But the

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lights were moving kind of back and forth, kind of zigzaging,

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and I was like, plane doesn't do that, doesn't zigzag

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like that. And yeah, we were just watching them for

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I don't know, good about twenty minutes. And I had

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seen UFOs before down in the desert dig down in

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New Mexico and Arizona, so I was like, well, we

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have more company. So we just kind of kind of

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watched the light show and the moon came up. We

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watched the moon for a while and I was like, okay,

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it's time to go to bed. You know, everything's cool.

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So still the whole night and no sounds, no night sounds,

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no bugs, nothing. So the next day it was kind

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of a normal day. We went out, we did some stuff,

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saw some friends, came back, and it was just normal,

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like you hear the crickets or whatever they are out there,

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birds flapping around. We saw a heron fly by, the

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beaver was in a great mood. He was jumping in,

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in and out of that pond. You know. We ate

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some dinner, We saw the moon rise, and we saw

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the light show again up on that ridge, and you know,

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we're backaways, we're in the foothills, and I don't think

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that was someone running around with a flashlight. There was

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no house up there or anything, and it was it

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was flying above the surface of the ridge. So we

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just you know, I just figured it was some UFOs

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or something, you know. So we watched that for a

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while and went to bed, and it was just kind

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of a normal night. We have a couple of dogs

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with us too, and one is you know, kind of

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special needs, and I have my little little dog. So

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we had two tents. They were set up right next

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to each other, and the one dog needs a little

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special medication anxiety issues. So we just thought we'd have

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two tents, you know, and my wife's snores and I

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didn't want to be around. So anyway, we had two

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tents and you know, that night went by without incident,

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but the third night something happened. We had we got back,

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we were out in Index and we were out by

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the river and got a lot of sun, and we

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came back and you know, we're kind of tired, but

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we wanted to walk around the area a bit, the

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area around our camp ground, and there were a couple

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of trails that one was real dark, and I had

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a lot of like old trees that had fallen down

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back there, and there was like it was real dark

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with trees, but there were some old trees that had

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fallen and it just kind of gave me the creeps.

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And I said to her, you know, I just don't

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want to be back here. It feels real squatchy to me.

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And I'm like, I don't I don't know. You know,

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she's been listening to me about sasquatch for years and

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people think I'm nuts, but I just know they're out there,

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you know, and I kind of have this I kind

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of have a love for them because you know, they're

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kind of like the they're kind of like free beings,

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you know, and I just I like the idea of

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these beings running around free, and you know, certainly we're

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not free, So I like the idea of a wild

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kind of humanoid creature running around. You know. It just

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makes me feel like kind of expand of thinking about it. So,

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you know, I've always talked about it, but I don't

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really I'm not a big advocate of chasing them. I

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think just leaving them alone, you know, and you know,

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if you come across one, it's kind of like a gift.

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But I didn't want to come across one out there

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because it just felt real creepy. So and when I

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first got that message before we left, I felt like

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it just felt weird, Like I just I didn't want

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to have an encounter, you know, I just didn't. So anyway,

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the third night we came back, we went down that

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creepy trail, we walked around the property a bit, and

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we were walking back to the campsite and my dog,

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I have a little shit too. He was all of

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a sudden stopped in the middle of the trail and

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was like stunned. He was just he wouldn't move. He

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was like kind of in a little fugue or something.

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And I kept trying to like say, hey, you know,

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come on, dude, let's go back to the site. It's

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not too far. But he wouldn't. He couldn't move. So

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I picked him up and I said, gosh, there's something

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wrong with him. And my wife was like, oh, he's

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probably just really tired. But I had never seen him

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like this. You know, we had taken him out to

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the woods a lot, so maybe he was tired. I

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don't know. But we got back up to the site

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and I put him in my tent with a little

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bit of food and some water, and he just was

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He just kind of like tipped over and laid down.

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And I was kind of worried. Should I bring him

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to the vet? And she was like, no, he's just okay.

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You know, I'd never seen him like that. So anyway,

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we got to making dinner and stuff, and I started

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feeling real nervous. I just started feeling like my anxiety

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was like real visceral in my body, and the sun

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was going down and I just it was quiet again,

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and I was kind of so nervous that I didn't

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even want to eat, you know, I just I didn't

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say anything to my wife, didn't want to scare or anything,

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but I just felt like there was something around and

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I would do the flashlight thing and the bushes and

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around the back and I didn't see anything, but again,

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so quiet, and she was like, you know, we heard

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the beavers jump in the lake and that was the

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only sound you heard, and we didn't see any lights,

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and she was like, you know, I need to I'm

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just exhausted. I'm going to go to bed into her tent.

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My whole body was just vibrating, and so I went

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into my tent and I was like, well, I had

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some old This is how old I am. I had

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a CD player with like headphones, and I brought the

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CD to play just in case I needed to have

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some music to go to sleep, and I put those

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on and I was just trying to calm myself because

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I just felt so uneasy. And anyway, I must have

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fallen asleep, but I don't know. It must have been

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maybe a maybe an hour or two later, or maybe

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I woke up to three sounds that seemed like there

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may be maybe about maybe one hundred yards away. I'm

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not very good at my distance, but and you know,

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I thought I was original in saying this, but I've

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heard it since on people's encounters. It sounded like an

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eight hundred pound owl. And I was like, there were

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three exact same sounds and they cut through the night

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like butter. It was whatever made those sounds had lungs

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that I just can't even imagine like whale's lungs or something,

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and it sounded like they were trying to be an owl,

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but that wasn't no owl, okay. And I was just

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like I just kind of shot up, and I was like,

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what the check was that? And I just didn't know

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what to make of it. It just woke me up,

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and I just something was out there, not too far away.

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But for some reason, I just put the headphones back

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on and just tried to like go back to sleep,

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you know, I just I just don't think about it,

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go back to sleep. Well, it must have been I

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don't know. Another hour or two later, I shot up

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and my body, my whole body was in full on,

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full metal jacket terror. Okay. I was like my heart

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was racing. I thought I was gonna throw up. I

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was in absolute a state of terror. And I was

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in that state before it even woke up. It's hard

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to explain that, but I wasn't even quite awake to

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know why my body was shaking so hard, and I

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was like trying to get control, you know, myself, you know,

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And then I hear a footstep and it's right outside

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my tent, and it was like really quiet. It was

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a quiet footstep, and then like I thought, well, this

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can't be a bear because we kind of we did

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the you know, the thing you shouldn't do. We left

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our dishes unwashed after dinner, and I thought, of it

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was a bear. We hit it rooting around out there,

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trying to get some food or whatever. But this thing

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was right outside my tent, and whatever it was was

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huge because I heard the second step and it was

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trying to be real quiet, but it was like crushing

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the crush gravel, you know, the crush gravel, like how

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they crush it so it's almost solid, but I could

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hear the sound kind of crushing, and I was just

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I was like out of control, was terrified, and I

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was like stop breathing, but at the same time, I

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was worried, like I was going to throw up. I mean,

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I was so scary and my heart was beating so fast.

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I'm sure whatever was out there heard it. So I

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was trying to like breathe real quiet and not make

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any more sounds. And then I heard another step and

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it was just kind of like going to the right

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of my tent, and I just knew whatever this was

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freaking huge. Because the crunch took a long time to crunch,

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you know what I mean of the footstep. So at

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that point I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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throw up here because my body was just shaking. And

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I grabbed my backpack and was like rooting for some

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pepto bismo or something, and I heard it one more step,

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and then the next thing I know, I'm serious. The

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next thing I know, I woke up the next morning.

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I don't remember passing out. I'm not a person who's

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ever passed out in my life. I woke up the

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next morning and I don't even know like how that happened.

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So I went out of my tent and I didn't

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say anything at first, but I tried to kind of

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stomp around outside of my tent to see if I

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could make that sound. And I couldn't make that sound

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with my boots. So whatever was out there was walking

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on two legs must have been pretty freaking huge to

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make that sound because of the pack gravel. So I

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told my wife, I said, I had an experience last night,

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but let's just start packing. Let's go, And so we

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got all our stuff in the car and we took

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off and then I kind of told her what happened,

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and so that was kind of like that. And you know,

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I remember that day so well because as we were

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driving back to Eugene, it was the day of the

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big fire down there, of the Holiday farm fire. I

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could see the smoke in the distance, and I went

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from like it was kind of a terrifying experience I

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had that night into a very terrifying experience in Eugene

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and in that area down there. So I didn't really

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process it for a while because we went into like

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two weeks of danger, you know, from that fire that

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was happening, and so that was kind of it. But

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I will say about two years ago, so what was

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that In twenty three, I was talking to a buddy

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of mine up in Washington and we had since moved

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up here to Washington State, and I was talking to

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him and he asked me, do you know about Bigfoot?

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And I was like, oh, yeah, you know, he says,

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I listened to the Bigfoot podcast and I was like, yeah,

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I do too. You know, they said if you ever

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had an experience, and said, well, I actually actually I

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kind of think I did. You know, I can't one

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hundred percent say, I did, but I told him about it.

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I told him the area and he said he kind

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of looked white, and he said, you know, my buddy

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is a hunting is a hunter and he goes up

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in that area and he's run across a family twice

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up there, and he won't tell me where because he

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doesn't want he wants everyone to leave him alone. But

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he's run across a family, like, you know, person to

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person up there. So I was like, well, that makes

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a lot of sense then, because I can't I can't

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figure else what else would be that big that came

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off the hills because they couldn't walk up the driveway,

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and so I think that I think it was this asquatch.

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I do, especially if you kind of put everything together,

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the noises, you know, the silence, and that just feeling

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of being watch and stuff. So that was my first experience.

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I'll stop there for a sec. If you have any questions.

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Yeah, absolutely, Aaron, that was man. I can't imagine going

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going through that. Who. I don't know how you did it.

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I I definitely have have some questions for you. M

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did your wife experience anything that night at all?

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No, because she was she just passed out, she was tired.

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The dog. Her dog was also on anti anxiety medication,

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so that dog was asleep. My dog was asleep. My

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dog was like down for the count, you know. So

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it was just me.

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Gotcha, And it sounds like you left extremely quick the

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next morning. But any any footprints at all or maybe

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markings on the truck windows that you noticed at a

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later time.

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Gosh, I didn't even look. There's no footprints because it

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was so it was that pat gravel, you know, there

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were no footprints that I could see either.

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What CD were you listening to when you were trying

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to go to bed.

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It was probably like a flute, like a like a

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Japanese flute.

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Yeah, that's cool. It's pretty relaxing, right.

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Yeah, I was trying to relax. I just felt there,

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I really did.

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What did you have for dinner that night? Of I

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guess the third night.

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We had a couple of steaks, gotcha?

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Yeah? Were all three nights kind of meat based, like

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the steak meal?

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Yeah, we're big meat eaters.

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That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, So you were definitely making

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some delicious smelling smells for a creature or the bigfoot

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who is totally into eating meat, and I know there's

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going to be so many comments after that's there no

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big eats planned. You get it, guys. There's a weird

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thing though. It seems like in most encounters they're drawn in.

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There's like a the campers will be cooking bacon. I've

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noticed that patterns very weird. But yes, steak, steak is there?

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You go that would do it? You mentioned coming across

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one is a gift? What can you explain why you

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have that that thought process of of why you think

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coming across one is as is a gift?

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Well, for me it would be, but you know, thinking

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that and then having that experience, and I can't say

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one hundred percent it was, but I'm thinking it's about

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ninety nine ninety eight percent. But I'm kind of of

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the you know mind that these are kind of extra

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special beings. And you know, in the First Nations people

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say that Sasquatch has real strong medicine, and if you

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have an experience of that, it's you know, they have

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very strong medicine of truth, you know, And I just

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think that's pretty cool. I have a lot of respect

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for them, and I never want to make them. I

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would never want to be intrusive to these beings because

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I do believe that they need to be left alone.

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And I just think that it would be a very

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powerful spiritual experience. And I will say too, as I mentioned,

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I am a sensitive for better or for worse, mostly

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for worse. But I'd never come across anything with that

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kind of energy in my life. And I used to

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do work with How would I even want to I

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don't want to even get to wu Wu because I

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don't want people to think that I'm like totally into

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the mu Wu. But I used to do some medicine

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work and would do some spirit work and back back

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in the day, and I came across a lot of

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stuff for good or for bad, and I came across

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when this energy was right next to me. I felt

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like it was almost like a reverse energy of anything

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I've ever experienced, like a reverse energy of human It

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was like a wild energy. And that may sound crazy,

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but I've never come across anything that felt like this.

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And I'm a big feeler and I can, you know,

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feel places, I can feel beings, I can feel things.

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I've never felt anything like this before.

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See. I think that's incredible and just and it's really cool,

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because yeah, I believe there are some individuals that have

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the ability to sense energy and different cultures and religions,

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and there's so many different ways to say what that is, right,

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but I think that that is an actual thing in people.

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And also I just need to get on a soapbox

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for a little bit. I swear if I if there's

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one thing I get accomplished in the next twenty to

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twenty five years, is that I wipe the phrase woo

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woo or woo out of the community seriously. Like so,

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because the way that I do it is I think

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it's just, you know, we need to take everything that

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is happening to people and consider it right and not

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just you know, totally just kick it to the side, like,

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oh it's too crazy or it's too freaky. No, there's

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stuff we don't understand, and science doesn't understand it either,

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and hopefully we will eventually, but man, it's just it

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gets to me, you know, it's like just people are

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experiencing some weird stuff and we have got to give

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it credence, you know what I mean.

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But uh, yeah, yeah, I respect I respect that because

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I mean I can't hope that I have these have

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had these experiences in life and just a lot of

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like stuff we won't get into. But some of them

462
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I didn't necessarily like at all, I'll tell you that.

463
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.519
But I do believe that we've lost as humans or

464
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.359
whatever we are. You know, I have my own theory

465
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.000
about that, but I think we've lost a lot of

466
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:20.279
our instincts, a lot of our kind of instinctual body.

467
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.759
We've lost our connection with nature to a very large degree,

468
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:31.000
to a devastating degree. And that these beings, whatever they are,

469
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:35.480
if they are the original beings here and we're kind

470
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.759
of more of a mix or vice versa, I think

471
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.640
they do have more gifts. And you know, I think

472
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:47.440
they do have more senses that we have somehow, maybe

473
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.359
due to our what do you call that conditioning or

474
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.319
whatever we've shut down over the century. Whatever.

475
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:02.480
Now, after you had this three night experience, did you

476
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:08.200
find that did anything out of the ordinary start happening afterwards,

477
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:12.680
like when you got home, or did your senses become

478
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.880
affected in any way that you realized or anything with that?

479
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.599
You know, we went right into that big fire situation

480
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.200
now and ash like half of Oregon was on fire. So,

481
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.920
like I said, I didn't have a lot of chance

482
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.799
to really process that, but I did write it down

483
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.640
and I didn't really get back to it for a

484
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:35.119
little bit.

485
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:45.640
Yeah, I've mentioned a few things a few times on

486
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.880
the show, but I'll mention it again just in case

487
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:52.359
anyone has experienced. But I think that sometimes I think

488
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.680
based on you know, what people tell me, is I

489
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.920
think that sometimes when an individual is in an encounter

490
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.000
like this, or maybe in an area where there are sasquatch,

491
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:10.160
it almost maybe unlocks something in the person. I don't know.

492
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.920
I'm still kind of working through it, but it is

493
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:16.079
another pattern that I've found that has kind of come

494
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.440
up in multiple, multiple encounters over the years. It's very

495
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:25.960
very strange, so something I'm still working through. After this.

496
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.119
When you're you know, you're to the point, you're past

497
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:32.200
the fires, you're processing everything through, you're like, what happened?

498
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.279
What happened? Did you ever at any point be like, Oh,

499
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.480
I wonder if this exact area has also had other

500
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.359
things happen and it maybe I'll look on you know,

501
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.440
BFRORO or the big Foot Mapping Project to see if

502
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:47.519
other things have happened there.

503
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.400
I think there have been some on bf ROW. I

504
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.920
think there's some things up in you know, Grant Falls area.

505
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.720
I think it's pretty active up there. Well, you know,

506
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.759
BFROL doesn't seem like it's updated a lot. I actually

507
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.319
contacted the owners of the land and said, hey, I

508
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.119
think I had experienced there. He was like, oh, it's

509
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.680
just some elk or something. I said, you know, yeah,

510
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.079
elk walk feet and you know, ones on top of

511
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.480
each other maybe you know, like but it was on

512
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.720
two feet. And he was like, well, it's just some elk,

513
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:28.440
you know. So he didn't want to get into it. Yeah,

514
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.960
so I had it. You know. I grew up up there.

515
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.400
We had a cabin up in the near Machias area,

516
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.680
a little bit further than Machias in Granted you know,

517
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.240
between matchaias Granted Falls area, and so we had a

518
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.240
lot of land that I would walk around when I

519
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.880
was a kid, and I always felt like there's something

520
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.680
up there, but I didn't know, you know, and that

521
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.480
was a long time ago. You know, I'm in my

522
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.039
fifties now, but yeah, I just you know, I kind

523
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.160
of grew up knowing there was something out there.

524
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.240
The other thing I wanted to ask you before we

525
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.480
continued was when you lived down in Eugene. Did you

526
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.279
ever hear of any Bigfoot related things happening down there?

527
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.759
Well, we had some. We had a couple of weird experiences.

528
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.599
I can kind of go through those pretty quick, you know.

529
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.799
One of the areas you talk about a lot of

530
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:29.759
a Salmon creek and out of the Yeah, so this

531
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.319
was during that same year probably, or maybe it was

532
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.920
the year after. I don't know, but I got a message,

533
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.960
one of those messages quote unquote to go to Salmon Creek,

534
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.119
and I was like, I don't even know where that is.

535
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:47.599
So I had to look it up and we found

536
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.880
that it was out near Oakridge. Okay, cool. So we

537
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.400
went out there. And whenever I get a message, I

538
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.279
used to do it, you know, because usually the messages

539
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.599
have always turned out really good for me in life.

540
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.720
So we went out there and we were walking down

541
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.720
the trails and stuff, and there was this one area

542
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.599
where it's just super creepy. I felt like super creeped out,

543
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.840
and there was a smell. It was really really strong

544
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.039
and it smelled kind of like a horse but maybe

545
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.800
some manure, but there was no horses around there. Like

546
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:24.960
we were back on the river, on the creek or whatever,

547
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.960
and I just kind of like brushed it off, and

548
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.599
then we came back on that same trail and I

549
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.400
kind of smelled it again, and I was like, well,

550
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.480
maybe it's a dead animal or something. But I just

551
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.840
couldn't get out of there fast enough, if that makes

552
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.199
any sense. So I don't know if it was in

553
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.039
the exact area that we walked by the first time,

554
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.800
but I did feel a little bit uneasy on that

555
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:57.760
particular visit to Salmon Creek. And then the other experience

556
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.920
we had in Oregon that was significant was we were

557
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:09.760
out near Mary's Peak area near the in the Coastal Range,

558
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:13.800
and we were camping nearby, and we decided to go

559
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:18.000
to Mary's Peak, which is kind of like a little mountain,

560
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:23.719
and I was doing some foraging and I was working

561
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.079
on getting some Devil's Club and my wife took the dog,

562
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.440
her dog up further the explore the trail up above

563
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.960
where I was working on the Devil's Club, and she

564
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.039
got off the creek, she got up there aways, and

565
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.920
next thing I know, she was coming down the trail

566
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.400
kind of white face, and her dog was like running

567
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.480
down and I said, what's going on, and she's like,

568
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.400
I don't know. But we hit something up there and

569
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.599
we were told not to come up any further, like

570
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.559
we were not to go any further. The dog wouldn't move,

571
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.920
and I just got kind of hit and I said said, okay,

572
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.320
let's get out of here. And so you know, I

573
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.960
had just finished with my little forage and we got

574
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.679
back into the truck and she was like, I feel sick.

575
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.360
I feel like I have a headache, and I feel

576
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.679
really out of it. And I said, what exactly happened.

577
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.960
She's like, I don't know. We just couldn't go any farther,

578
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.480
Like the dog stopped and like I was told we

579
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.440
do not go any further. And so I said, okay,

580
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.280
let's get out of here. So we moved back to

581
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.639
the campsite. And I said, I wonder if you got

582
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.280
hit with some I mean just a theory, but that

583
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.239
some of that infrasound, because it sounds like something was

584
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:47.119
telling you not to proceed. And she had a headache

585
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.679
and she was kind of nauseous that whole day. So

586
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:56.039
I did look up Mary's Peak on THEFO and yes,

587
00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:01.639
there have been experiences up there, so I think she

588
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.039
had her experience. It kind of it was kind of

589
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.159
a humbling experience for her there.

590
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:17.719
Yeah, I'm absolutely not surprising, especially I mean I've heard

591
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:25.000
multiple interviews brought up the Salmon Creek area of Oakridge.

592
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.679
There's even stuff documented back to the seventies, I think

593
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:35.800
in John Green's file. But thank you for sharing that that.

594
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.000
I think that that was something that you hadn't even

595
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.119
planned on bringing up.

596
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:48.519
Correct the Mary's Peak experience. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.

597
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:58.519
That was weird. That was really weird. So we don't

598
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.400
know what that was. But she was told not to

599
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.840
proceed and she got the message and she was like,

600
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.320
white is a ghost coming down that hill on that trail.

601
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.159
So we go out in the woods a lot and

602
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.119
have not had any weird experiences up here. We live

603
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:21.280
in north of Seattle near Skeadget County, and we go

604
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:25.000
out in the you know, the foothills a lot out there,

605
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.480
and I, yeah, I'm learning that's actually not really safe

606
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.239
to go out there. There's a lot of there's a

607
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.239
lot of weird instances with humans out there. So we

608
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:36.960
don't go out as much as we used to, but

609
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.000
we do go out, you know, up in Watam County

610
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.440
and stuff. So I haven't had experience like that since.

611
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:53.440
But I have a friend who had an experience down

612
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:59.320
in Montesano up experience, and I can tell you about

613
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.360
that too. Point that's pretty amazing.

614
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:06.599
Yeah, absolutely, you said, was that Monte Sano? Is that Washington?

615
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:15.239
Yeah, it's in Washington, south southwest Washington, kind of a

616
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.880
little bit south of the peninsula. You know, there's a

617
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:23.800
lot of logging out there. And so this is the

618
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.679
last story I have. Actually, my niece this is another

619
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.280
just a little side thing. I can't tell her story,

620
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:34.360
but my niece grew up visiting her grandparents in the

621
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.360
woods and she would get visited as a child by

622
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.119
the monkey Man, like several times. Yeah, so she has

623
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.199
her own I will say, I believe her, and I

624
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.800
just know these things are true. I know that they're

625
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.280
out there. So because I have another friend who had

626
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.320
an experience down in Georgia that was like just absolutely

627
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.159
terrifying story. But I can't tell her story either, but hm,

628
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.480
she saw him ride up close right outside her house,

629
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.480
like kind of creeping around her house and stuff. So

630
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:15.360
but this this friend of mine down in Montaceo, Okay,

631
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.840
so he owns this. Well, he's not with us anymore,

632
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.800
but he owned this Patcher land. He had a house

633
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.159
on it, and he was a prayer man, a Lakota

634
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.599
prayer man. And he had a ceremony on his land.

635
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.679
And there's a whole bunch of people that came, some

636
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.159
from South Dakota and some people from Washington came. And

637
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.960
it was a four day ceremony. And I was I

638
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.960
was there on his land as one of the cooks.

639
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.239
I was cooking for the people, and I was cooking

640
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.639
in this little barn that he had. So I know

641
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:57.079
his I know his property, and I know what he's

642
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.800
talking about when he told told his story, and he

643
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.960
told his story to my closest friend at that time.

644
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.400
She's no longer with us either. But this guy would

645
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.119
not tell he was he was a man of few words,

646
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.320
let's put it that way. He was very he didn't

647
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.840
talk much, and he was kind of a serious man.

648
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.519
He was a prayer man, and he was very devoted

649
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:29.480
to his spirituality. So anyway, and this barn, this little

650
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.320
white shed or whatever that we cooked in was I

651
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:39.119
don't know. Let me sink, you're one hundred feet from

652
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.840
his house, I don't know. Something like that. So he

653
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:48.840
had an experience after the ceremonies were done, and we

654
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.920
all had experiences at that ceremony. But after that was

655
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.800
done and over, maybe I don't know, within that year

656
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:59.280
he was one. He went one day, was at his

657
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.440
breakfast table, having his coffee. He looked out to it

658
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.880
that for that shed, and there was a ten foot

659
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.599
sasquatch just looking right at him, just looking straight through

660
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.039
that window at him, and they looked at each other

661
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.880
for a while, and my friend he just kind of

662
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.400
nodded to him, and the sasquatch kind of pushed off

663
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.400
from the shed and just slowly walked up this hill

664
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.840
that's in the backyard of his property. And so he

665
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.679
saw it right up front. And he's not much for

666
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.280
a reaction, but he did tell that story, and if

667
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.199
you told it, it's true. And he would also put

668
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.960
people up on that hill in Humble a ceremony, which

669
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:44.519
is the Vision Quest ceremony. And I have a friend

670
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.280
who he put up on the hill for that four

671
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.800
day ceremony up there, and she said that when she

672
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:56.679
was in that ceremony up there by herself, she could

673
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.880
hear the sasquatch sing, she called it, and she was

674
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.960
just praying, please don't come and please don't come and

675
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.960
visit me. But she said they were all around during

676
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:10.559
her ceremony, So uh yeah, that was the that's the

677
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.840
secondhand story. But I know these people. I knew these people,

678
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.679
and they were the people I trust very deeply.

679
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:25.599
So we had a little bit of a blip when

680
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.960
you had shared what she called the sasquatch singing. Could

681
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.280
you repeat that whatever she called it? Please?

682
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.760
Oh, she just instead of saying that she heard them,

683
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:41.480
you know, howling, this woman said that she heard them

684
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:47.840
singing and she knew what they were, and she just prayed,

685
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.960
please please don't come and see me, like I just

686
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.320
you know, she was up there in the dark for

687
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:58.440
four nights, right, so she didn't want to be terrified,

688
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.480
you know. But they're up Yeah, they're out there.

689
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.920
Oh, I mean absolutely. I'm looking on a map at

690
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:11.360
that area, and it's not too far from Lake Capital

691
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.719
State Forest, which is known for a lot of activity.

692
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.320
And also you know, you've even got shahalis around around

693
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:25.639
the corner, although looks can be deceiving on maps. Let's see. Okay,

694
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.360
it's about an hour away, so not too bad. Wow, man,

695
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:35.960
thank you for for sharing that that secondhand account as well. No,

696
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:40.880
doubt that Washington, the state of Washington has activity all

697
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.000
over the place. And this is just you know, some

698
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.880
other just some more pieces of evidence that you can

699
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:56.239
add to to the long list of things happening in

700
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.480
that state. Would you ever want to have a visual

701
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.360
citing yourself if you were able to have that, or

702
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.159
is what happened that night enough for you?

703
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.400
I wouldn't mind it, because I'm always up for an experience,

704
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.519
whether it's like good or bad. But I felt a

705
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:21.519
little vulnerable for some I felt vulnerable for some reason,

706
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.840
Like if I was out hiking and happened to see

707
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:31.039
a sasquatch or I would I would love to see

708
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.760
it for the experience, but I would definitely hide til

709
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.519
it out because I do want to be very respectful,

710
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.800
you know, and it'd probably be scary. But I'm up

711
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.639
for the experience, but I'm not going to seek that experience,

712
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.599
if that makes any sense.

713
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.119
Absolutely. So what I take from that is you're not

714
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.639
the kind of person that's like, Okay, I'm gonna take

715
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.000
a weekend off, go to a hot zone and start

716
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.000
banging on trees. No, that's not going to be you, right,

717
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:05.679
I don't know.

718
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.559
That just doesn't seem right to me, gotcha, Yeah, someone,

719
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.440
I'm not judging people. I just you know, I kind

720
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.800
of want to be left alone. So I don't want

721
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.159
someone like stalking me, you know, so I wouldn't want

722
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.360
to do that. I just I really like the idea

723
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.239
of them being free and being left alone. You know.

724
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.559
It's it's interesting, you know, I've found it. And I

725
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.159
don't go out all the time, but I have found

726
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.559
that if you just go out and you hang out

727
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:49.079
and you just chill out there, that's a lot of

728
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:54.199
times when when the stuff can happen when you just

729
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.360
kind of chill out and let whatever happens happens. So

730
00:46:58.519 --> 00:46:59.360
it's kind of interesting.

731
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:03.480
H I got one more experience I had just to

732
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.800
add to your and I forgot about this, but could

733
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:07.639
I share really quick?

734
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:08.960
Oh yeah, absolutely, go ahead.

735
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.920
So we were out we went out past that Oak

736
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.880
Oakridge area. Forgot for a minute, but we went out

737
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.760
past the Oak Ridge area a bit, and I was

738
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:29.760
looking for this waterfall off the highway, and I thought

739
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.599
we had found it. But we parked and I saw

740
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:35.400
this little trail and I said to my wife, you know,

741
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.400
I'm just going to go up this trail and see

742
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:41.039
if I can see if I can hear anything. So

743
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.960
I think I'm hearing something and maybe if I hear it,

744
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.519
I can you know, I'll call you and you can

745
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.880
come up. We can find this waterfall. Well, I was

746
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:50.800
going up this trail. It was a little bit icy,

747
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.119
and I was out there probably about a quarter mile,

748
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.280
and I heard the whistle on one side of the

749
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.480
trail and I thought, oh, you know, it must be

750
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.280
a bird to sound like a human whistle. Then I

751
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:09.920
heard a whistle on the other side of the trail,

752
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:15.519
and I was like okay, and I kept on walking,

753
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:17.880
and then I heard another, like a real kind of

754
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.880
low whistle, and then I heard it on the other

755
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.280
side of the trail again, and I said, okay, y'all,

756
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.639
I'm leaving now I hear you and I don't want

757
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.400
to be in your space. I'm leaving. And just then

758
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.239
I hear my wife say calling my name really really loud,

759
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.079
and said come back, come back, And so I just

760
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.239
kept saying, okay, I'm leaving, please just let me be.

761
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.320
I'm going to let you be. I'm leaving because I've

762
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.199
heard about these whistles, right, and that they were like

763
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:52.679
walking with me and whistling on both sides. That kind

764
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.199
of freaked me out, and so I got back to

765
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.199
the car and she was like something, I just knew

766
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.480
I had to call you back. I knew something wasn't right,

767
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.239
and I said, yeah, yeah, someone was tracking me out

768
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.280
there and whistling both sides of the trail and I

769
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.239
just couldn't get out of there fast enough and so

770
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.719
we just kind of sped off, and I kind of

771
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.239
forgot about that experience too, But yeah, that was out

772
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.000
there in that area.

773
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:22.679
Oh, that's that's some crapy stuff. Was that? Uh was

774
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:23.960
that Salt Creek Falls?

775
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.280
I think that might have been. I can't can't, I

776
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.360
can't be sure, but that sounds kind of familiar.

777
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:35.719
That's weird stuff.

778
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.719
So yeah, I was trying to find it and I

779
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.519
couldn't find it, but I went up this trail and

780
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:47.559
I started having those whistles on both sides. Yeah, so

781
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:53.360
it was Salt Creek. Yeah. Were there experiences up there too?

782
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.320
I have heard a few things from that area. Yeah yeah, yeah,

783
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:04.480
so really, really, you could you could say that about

784
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.159
any anything in the any area in the willlame At

785
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.760
National Forest. Is what I'm finding out, And I mean

786
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.519
the whole Pacific Northwest, but I've pretty much only gone

787
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.719
to that area so far. Just some really interesting things

788
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.239
you've shared tonight, and UH, I just want to thank

789
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.599
you for for coming on to share those. Uh. It's

790
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.480
it's cool to hear more things from the Granite Falls

791
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.159
area of Washington, uh and in other places as well.

792
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.760
And just want to say, uh, thank you for for

793
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.760
coming on Aaron to to to share what you experienced

794
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.639
over the years.

795
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.480
Thank you, Jeremiah, keep doing your great work. I enjoy

796
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.280
every episode.

797
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.159
I appreciate that. And if you know, if anything else

798
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.400
ever happens, feel free to you know, you've got my

799
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.360
contact info and you know, always feel free to uh

800
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.719
to send my info uh to anyone you might know

801
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.039
that it needs a place to talk as well. But

802
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.280
thank you so much, thank you, have a great night,

803
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:16.639
you two, Okay, goodbye. Just wanted to take a minute

804
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.800
to say thank you truly for listening to this episode

805
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.960
of the Big for Society podcast. Aaron's story is one

806
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.800
that lingers, not just because of the gravel crunching footsteps

807
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.639
or the white orbs dancing above the ridge, but because

808
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.079
of the deep feeling that was carried that they weren't alone,

809
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:35.039
So huge thanks to Erin for opening up and sharing

810
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.440
such a powerful and vulnerable experience with us. This one

811
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814
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.039
just weird things in the woods. And hey, if you've

815
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.599
had an encounter of your own, especially in the Pacific Northwest,

816
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.320
please shoot me an email at big for Society at

817
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:59.000
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818
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.440
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824
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825
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:25.119
trust your instincts, and remember some gifts come quietly in

826
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:26.000
the middle of the night.