July 20, 2026

Towering Sasquatch Stuns Hunter in Fishlake National Forest, Utah

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Season 1

A hunter watches his hounds refuse to pursue something hiding in the timber. Moments later, an eight-foot figure glides across a Utah mountainside in full view. Years of strange activity follow, including disappearing livestock, mysterious X structures, unexplained lights, rocks striking buildings, and encounters that leave an entire family searching for answers.


You'll also hear a North Alabama witness describe a terrifying rock-throwing encounter, unusual vocalizations, and generations of family experiences near Bankhead National Forest. Then we travel to the Loess Hills of western Iowa, where a veteran trapper shares a chilling encounter from the 1970s that has stayed with him for decades.


Featured locations include:
• Fishlake National Forest, Utah
• Pine Hollow, Utah
• Bankhead National Forest, Alabama
• Portsmouth, Iowa
• The Loess Hills along the Missouri River


These firsthand accounts come directly from the people who lived them. Listen closely, decide for yourself, and let us know what you think.


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Yes?

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How are you doing today?

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I'm doing good? What about too?

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Doing great? Feel free to share what your experience was

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their trip.

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So growing up my family, we always believed in bigfoot

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right growing up in North Alabama, and I remember one

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time we were all hunting a bigfoot. We could hear it,

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we were close and this rock comes flying like this

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big old rock. No dude could just frock this fun

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This hord comes flying at my head it was like

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an inch away from my head, horrifying. My goodness, yes,

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and this bigfoot like you could hear it howling and growling.

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It was horrible. And I remember one time we were

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back at my house and dude, we were out there

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chilling by the pool and then on everything bigfoot comes up.

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All right, and he we were chilling. We had our

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dogs out there with his dog name of the Margo.

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We ain't got him no more. The bigfoot of bigfoot

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took him. Yeah, we were out there. It grabbed him,

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grabbed two beers and ran in the woods.

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Okay, so I have a few questions. So what kind

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of beers were they?

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Mickey's make a little voltures?

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So why were you hunting bigfoot?

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Because we've always believed in them and we've always been

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firm believers ever since. My granddaddy was a firm believer

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as well, got my dad and do it, and my

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dad got me into it.

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So you've been generations of bigfoot hunters, is what it

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sounds like. Yeah, okay, okay, have you ever been successful?

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We ain't been successful, but we've been close, real close.

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Are you up by that? What is it? H? Northern

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Alabama would be Bankhead National Forest.

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Yeah, we're near there, very close there, like an hour away.

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Okay, have you heard of any other things people having

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experiences up there?

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Oh yeah yeah yeah. My cousin was a walking outside

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and he came across these giant more showing a tree

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like scratching on a tree. It ain't no bear did this.

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Ain't no bear did this? Nah? And there were limbs everywhere.

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It was. It was crazy.

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Hm hmm. Interesting. Well, trip, I I appreciate you coming up.

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I hope that you are safe where you're at, but

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I also hope that Bigfoot is safe too, So maybe

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you guys can come to an understanding.

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But we weren't actually like hunting hunting him. We were

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like when I met hunt, I mean like we were

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tracking him.

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Oh okay, okay, very good.

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Yeah. Interesting creatures, man, I mean they like they can

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almost articulate words. If you're closings.

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Have you heard have you heard what what sounds like language? Before?

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Yeah? I swear and I know it was like Jerry

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Ris one of them sounds I Dave was speaking some

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vietmain these or something, because it was it was like

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fast paced words with a lot of broken up.

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M what what do you think Bigfoot is. Do you

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have any thoughts about that from probably even talking to

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your your father and your grandfather about it.

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Well, Bigfoot is more than the big old ap is.

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He's a legend and something to be respected and loved,

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and he's in he's nature as well. He's a perfect

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representation of nature.

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I like that. I like that. I like that, Trip, Trip,

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Thank you so much for coming up. Please keep us

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album in mind if you ever have any other interactions

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in the future, would love to hear about it. Okay, yes, sir,

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thank you. Well, there you go. I was a little

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nervous at first about Trip when he said that, but

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it looks like looks like he's actually on the good side.

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So there you go. Thank you, Trip Hattie.

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How are you doing today, Hey.

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There, Hound, I'm doing well. Thanks for coming up. Feel

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free to take it away there, Hound and share what

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your experience was.

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So it was back in the It was in August

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of twenty eighteen in central Utah. There's a national forest

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there called Fish Lake National Forest. We own about twelve

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hundred acres up there property and we run dogs for

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Baron Mountain Lion run dogs, and there's a place up

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there called Pine Hollow, and it's this deep, nasty canyon

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and we were hunting all morning, didn't get anything going.

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So I walked down this canyon with these dogs to

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try and find a bear. I'm down in there. I

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find a nice bear track. Dog take off. And when

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I say, it takes everything you had to get these

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dogs off a scent, like you have to yell at them,

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column tone their collars. It takes so much to get

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these dogs off a scent. They go about eight hundred

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yards into this thicket and all of a sudden, they

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stop barking, stop everything, and come right back to me.

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I got dogs in between my legs, hideing behind me,

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not wanting to go anywhere. And except for one dog.

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One dog is still out there and he's sitting in

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this thicket and I hear him barking. I'm thinking, oh,

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they got that bear baite up in that thicket. So

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I go over there and I get about probably eighty

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to one hundred yards from that thicket, and this black

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thing comes busting out of there. He's probably eight foot tall,

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and it was just amazing how fast he was. How

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he like you know when you run, a person runs,

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how like they kind of bounce. This thing didn't bounce.

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It like was like it was on a treadmill, gliding

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across the ground up this steep hillside. And it just

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was a crazy, crazy experience. And I I I'd always

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watched the show find in Bigfoot, but I never believed,

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and it it put the fear of God, mean maybe believe.

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Goodness, have you ever been back to that area?

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Yeah, I go there a lot. It's it's our main

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hunting area and it's on our property.

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Right, that's true.

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Good point, And I think I think there is a

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group of them living there because there's a lot of

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other weird things that happen.

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Well, I was just gonna ask you, there's got to

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be other stuff. He's noticed that that leads you to

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believe there's stuff going on as well. Yeah.

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So like we'll go up the road, like we start

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hunting at like five point thirty in the morning. We'll

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go up the road and when we come back, they'll

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be trees that are about probably as wide as like

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a thigh of a human in an X across the road.

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So we'll go up, they won't be there. We'll come

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down and they're there, yep. And also you'll be hiking

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down these like elk or big animals, and they leave

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big trails, and so we follow the elk trails because

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it's the path at least resistance and it's easier to

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walk through these woods like that. And hanging over the

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top of these X these elk trails, you'll find big

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X formations.

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Okay, oh, very very very interesting. Are you the only

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one that's had a sighting on that property?

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No, sir, my sisters have. They their sighting was up

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against the house.

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Really okay, so how close to the house.

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Like, so we got two bulldogs and they were having

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a slumb party with her. She plays softball, so her

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whole entire softball team was out there that day and

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so they're in the back past you're playing softball everything

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like that. And the parents My parents were out of

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town that week, so I was taking care of my siblings.

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And it's about probably two thirty in the morning and

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my sister comes into my room and she's like, hey,

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did you let the bulldogs out? I'm like, no, what

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do you mean? Why are you asking that? They're like

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outside the area of my room. We're hearing, like you know,

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when a bulldog breeze it sounds weird because our face

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is so smashed in. Yep, it's like that that like hard,

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like almost like they're suffocating themselves.

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Oh yeah.

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And so I was like, no, they're not out, and

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she's like, oh, okay, you just must be the hounds

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or something like that. I'm like, yeah, okay, And then

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I guess they the girls like hurt it again and

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they like double dog dare My sister go out there

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and see what it was. And she says like, it's

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just this big black figure was standing against the wall

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where her room was, and she was like, it was

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almost like it was putting its ear against the wall

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listening to us.

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Oh my goodness, that's that's some scary stuff, dude. How

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old were they.

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They were twelve and thirteen at the time. It was

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the twelve age group. And they came running into my

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room and they didn't know what it was at all.

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All they saw and it was dark house, so all

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they saw was a human figure. So they came in

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yelling in my room, going, there's a man outside our window.

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There's a man outside our room. So I ran out there,

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thinking there's some freaking perv over there, and it was

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gone and I was out there within fifteen seconds from

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when they saw it, and it was gone.

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Oh my goodness. So did you see anything out there

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that would that would tell you, Yeah, there was something

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standing there.

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There was kind of like on the wall where they

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she said it was leaning up against. There was like

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a grease, greasy slickness to it, like you know when

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your hair gets greasy and you rub your hair out,

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it gets on your fingers and stuff. Oh yeah, I

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wonder it was like there was like a grease slick

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from where it had been leaning up against the wall

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or something.

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Okay, gotcha. So any any tracks or indentations you could

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see in the ground.

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No, Up in that area, it's a lot of dust

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and hard It's like a lot of hard play. So

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unless it rains, you get nothing in the ground.

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Mm hmmm.

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It's solid, hard ground until you get a little bit

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of rain and then it's good mud.

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But so then my question is the people that so

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you and your sister have had experiences. Have you then

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had conversations with if like and your parents at the time,

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and how was that conversation had.

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They I talked to him about it, and they they

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they believe me, but they can't say. And they they're

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not calling me a liar, they're not calling my sister

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a liar, because they know that they know we saw something,

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but they just don't they can't put a they they

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themselves can't put a name to it yet.

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Okay, gotcha. So they they it wasn't a thing where

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like you told them, and they were like, oh, yeah,

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we totally know about this. This has happened for years.

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Grandpa knows about it, et cetera, et cetera.

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Like so we're so we actually are the first owners

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of this property. We bought it off a guy we

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don't know got it so I and we've only owned

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it for two years.

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Oh interesting. Have you talked to the neighbors surrounding neighbors

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at all, if you do, you have.

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Any Yeah, I've talked to them, and and uh, one

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of the surrounding neighbors is actually my uncle, and he

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has told me accounts from when he was a boy

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of sneaking out of his house and going out on

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horseback and stuff like that with his buddies and them

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having rocks and stuff thrown at him. And okay, and

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like I know, I know a lot of people don't

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like him, the bf r O. I know a lot

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of people don't like him, but I went on their

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website and looked, and there is a quite big cluster

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of sightings in the Fishlake National Forest.

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Really, that's that is actually really interesting because you're the

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first person I've ever talked to from central Utah. I

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don't know if this is considered central Utah. It kind

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of looks like it. So that's good to know that

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there's a lot of other things being documented around this area.

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Because, yeah, like Utah, it's a high mountain desert there

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there is a lot of open land, sagebrush, but this

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Fishlake National Forest is high mountain pine, quake, quaky aspens,

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big Ponderosa pine, thick timber mountains is this area?

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Okay, what's the elevation up there?

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Uh? Where the property is? Are like the highest point

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on that mountain.

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I like the property. I'm just curious.

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The property is at sixty five hundred feet.

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Oh that's like perfect, dude. Yeah, that's like that's it

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from what I know for like, you know, Bigfoot elevation.

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They like certain elevations for sure. Oh my goodness. So

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you guys freaked out living on a property like that?

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With activity or how are you guys handling it.

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I'm not just because I've never heard a story about

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a bigfoot being aggressive to people.

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I haven't, okay, and okay.

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The like I don't want tom Like, we run cattle

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and it's like we've had some calves go missing and stuff.

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But it's like I've and I've talked to other podcasts.

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I was on Sasquatch Chronicles.

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Oh for sure. Cool, that's awesome, dude.

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I was on Sasquatch Chronicles. I was on uh Midnight

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Monster Files. Okay, that's another TikTok live stream, and I

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was asking him like like I don't want to get

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rid of them. I just want to keep them off

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our land or where we keep our cattle because like

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every time they take or I can't blame it on them.

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But these are three hundred pound cows going and never

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being seen again.

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No blood, no, no, okay, and so you're not even seen,

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like bodies aren't even showing up. They're just totally disappearing.

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Yeah, no blood, no nothing. It's like you get one

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killed by a lion or a coyote, it's bloody, you

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find them everything like that. But these ones are just.

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Gone, okay, are there other weird things happening on the property, Like, well,

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we'll just leave it at that. They're strange things.

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So I don't know if you would account it to this,

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but this is naive American land where we are like

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we find arrowheads, we find putch your glyphs all over

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our property.

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Really, Oh that's super interesting, okay? And so do you

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ever see lights in the wood in the woods stuff

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like that.

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Not like not tree level like in the woods in

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the woods, but like right above tree level, sitting like

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thirty forty feet in the air.

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What shape are they?

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The ones I've been seeing o are like almost like an.

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Egg yep, okay, size of.

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Them probably just about the size of a normal person's head.

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Oh interesting, Okay, Wow, that's that's really really wild. Are

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you okay? You not leaving food outside for him or anything? Right?

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Oh?

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No, okay, good? Are you finding stuff outside like unlived

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animals or weird objects?

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So I was gonna say speaking of that, like, yeah,

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so we have a we have a I don't know,

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it's like a barn almost, Like it's not even really

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a barn, it's like a shed. And we have two

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deep friezers in there because every year we put we

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get says. We run our own cattle. We always kill

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a COWI year for ourselves. So we have these two

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deep freezers that are just filled with beef. And one

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day we went into the barn and like these and

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we have padlocks on them because we have raccoons, and

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raccoons are smart enough to get their fingers underneath the

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latch and they'll open your so we have these two

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giant padlocks on so they can't open it. And these

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we went in there one day and these two deep

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freezers were like on the floor on the opposite side

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of the building from where we left, and we accounted

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it to a bear, But I don't know, Oh.

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My goodness, So they're you think they're trying to get

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in and get get that food. Probably maybe that's what

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I'm thinking.

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Yeah, And like we've also and speaking about dead animals,

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like there's a bunch of stray cats around there. We

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have found like stray cats with like no sign of injury,

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just dead and then sitting like on a branch in

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the tree.

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So their necks aren't broken or anything, they don't look

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like they're ringed out.

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Well, I've never like I've never checked their neck, but

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like I assume that when they're dead and you grab them,

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their neck flops over, it's because they're dead, but maybe

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it's because they're next broken.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's a tricky, tricky deal because it's

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kind of like you don't really want to mess with

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a dead cat. But I get it. I wouldn't want

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to anyways. So man, it's like people in your situation,

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they'll do things like they'll put up game cameras around

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the house.

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They'll that's what That's what Wes from South Scot's Chronicles

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and the other guy told me to was game cameras

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or motion sensor lights.

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That's it's it's what I would do if I was

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in your situation as quick as possible. Like if you're

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not wanting them near the house, that's what you do.

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Yeah, Like if they're on if they're in the woods

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around the property or even on the property, I don't mind,

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just right, I I just don't want them near the house.

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Yeah, you're just kind of in with those lights and

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and those things. You're you're kind of setting up a boundary.

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And sometimes it's like they'll even come up to see

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that as far as they can get, like especially if

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you have lights, they'll come up to the edge of

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the lights and just hang out there. So but that,

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I mean, that'll do it, man.

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And like the thing that I've noticed a law on

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this property is so we don't just do bare amount lion.

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I do raccoon hunting two, which you do at night

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with your dogs or and it's like two in the morning,

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and like you can count it to other things. Yes,

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but it's so weird, Like I'll be walking fine through

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the bottom of it. We have this big giant draw

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in our giant like eating out part of the canyon

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from a little creek that runs through it. So I

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walk the bottom of that with dogs, trying to find

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raccoons and stuff to train younger dogs. And the walls

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of this like canyon and draws are like vertical, probably

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thirty feet like straight vertical, because it's just where the

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creeks carved out a spot over time. And I'll be

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walking down just like sitting there walking listening for dogs

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to bark or just humming along and then like no

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problem at all, no eerie feeling, and all of a sudden,

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it's like you just get a feeling of dread. You

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just feel it in your chest, in the back of

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your head, like there's something out here right now, and

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like you'll have like I don't know if you can

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it could be anything walking up on top of that

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on top of that flat flat plateau on the because

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I'm down the bottom and the plateau is about thirty

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feet above me. But like you'll have boulders or rocks

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come rolling down the edge parallel with you while you're

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walking along.

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Oh, that's that's crazy stuff, man, I'm lin goodness, you're

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really in the thick of it. Ed did give some

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good advice too, and let me get that. So she

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said that, and and you know this is just take

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take it as it is. You know, ask their permission, sure,

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tell them where your bat batteries. A lot of people

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will talk to them directly out loud. And you know,

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I don't know how you feel about that, but a

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lot of people do have That is successful for a

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lot of people. So that might get something to take

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into consideration too.

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Maybe maybe I did talk to him nice because I've

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yelled at him before.

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Oh yeah, don't, I wouldn't. Don't. Let's let's definitely stop

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the yelling. Yeah, I would say.

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There was one night in respect. Yeah, we have a

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tin roof barn and they're kept and uh, me and

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my buddies were actually out sleeping underneath this tin roof

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barn because it was just a nice night and we

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wanted to have kind of like a camp out almost,

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and rocks kept hitting the roof of this tin roof

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barn and I had enough, but I got up. I

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said get out of here, go h And I yelled

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at him and everything like that, and I probably went

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too far by shooting off in the air.

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Yeah, I mean, it's a thing where you don't want

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to get a situation to escalate, but I think you can.

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You can say things like that with respect and being

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firm right and uh you know, not having to fire

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and things like that. But it's just your kind of

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learning as you go along. But I think that the

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quickest way would be, you know, as the other guys

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you were talking to were saying, you know, your your

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motion sensored lights and things like that are really going

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to help you. But man, I I definitely want to

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hear how this, how this goes, you know, if you

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do decide to go forward with things.

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Like that, because and I think the cameras will work

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because there's the south side of the property, which is

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where the gate is. We have cameras on that gate,

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and it always seems like whenever you hear them or

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you feel like the area somewhere's coming from area, I

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always feel like it's on the north side of the property.

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Is where they're coming from.

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Okay, interesting is that is there more woods on the

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north side. Is there anything on the north side that

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would be like an area that they might be protecting

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or hanging out.

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That's where like I don't know, like if this hasn't,

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but that's where most of the Indian artifacts and Indian

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areas are.

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Okay, yeah, totally, man, that's where it.

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And like I don't know if you can count this

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to Bigfoot or not either, but like there's a spot

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up on this canyon. We go up on our property

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and it's a big limestone canyon and there's a big

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hole in the wall and around it stacked is this

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was from the Indians? Flat rocks they're about about an

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inch thick and they're flat and they're caked in mud

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and like turned into like almost like a doorway of

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this cave. But in this cave. There's a bunch of

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like bones of cows and stuff inside this cave. But

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this cave is like probably two hundred yards up a

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side of a cliff. You have to drop down from

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the top of the mountain to get down into this cave.

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And it's a nasty it's a nasty hike.

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That's why are they old bones or or what? Do

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you think?

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Like some of them are all old, old, and there's

466
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some that are fresh, and there's some that are fresher

467
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:17.680
like there's none that are like have Like there's some

468
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.559
that you can still see blood inside the marrow and

469
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.440
everything like that, but none of them have meat on them,

470
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.839
but you can still see the resident of blood that's

471
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:25.440
in the marrow.

472
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.240
I wonder if some of those are your cows.

473
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:33.319
And like I don't know, Like I don't know, Like

474
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.000
do you believe that they can use tools? No?

475
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.160
Absolutely, And I'll tell you why because I've I've found

476
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.359
it in Mount Hood National Forest. I found an area

477
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.880
with a researcher where there were stacked ferns next to

478
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.079
a handprint in the mud, and then there was like

479
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.920
piles of mud and it's just like thirty miles out

480
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.440
in the woods and the hand print was like this, So.

481
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.000
Like, my question is is because there's a big rock

482
00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:59.519
in there, and there's a little rock next to it,

483
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.079
and right now to it there was bones that were

484
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:02.799
split in half, almost like he's trying to get the

485
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.599
marrow out of the inside of the bone.

486
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.880
Oh my goodness, dude, you do you have pictures of that?

487
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:09.119
That would be amazing.

488
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.920
No, I didn't. I I don't have pictures of that.

489
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.160
But yeah, I'll stay followed you and I got your email.

490
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.599
Actually I wrote it down. So Okay, I run, I

491
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.480
run baar through that canyon all the time. So if

492
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.799
I ever come by that canyon and I'll go in

493
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:23.599
that cave.

494
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.279
Yeah, that would be that would be awesome. Yes, feel

495
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.240
free to send me an email. You got big for

496
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.839
Society at gmail dot com and uh yeah, keep me

497
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.440
in informed of anything else that happens or if you

498
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.640
have any other questions, you can feel feel free to

499
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:38.279
reach out. Man.

500
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:40.599
And what and I gotta quick like is that X

501
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.480
them doing that across the road? Is that telling him like,

502
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.079
don't come up here.

503
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.400
Man. That's one of those tricky things because some people

504
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.319
are like, well, they don't want you to go in

505
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.319
that area, or maybe like if you have a tree break,

506
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.920
they're trying to get you there, trying to mark roots.

507
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.920
Like there's all these different thoughts and it's like we

508
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:05.039
just we just don't know that the truth on it yet, right, Yeah.

509
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.079
Like the thing of like if it was laid just

510
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.759
across the road, I'd be like, Okay, it's them saying like,

511
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:11.839
we're here, it's a tree bake, pointing in a direction.

512
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.720
But how it's an X every time across the road.

513
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.680
That's what I'm like, are they trying to like tell

514
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.519
us not to come here by making an X.

515
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.200
I will tell you this that ninety nine percent of

516
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.680
people I talked to, like researchers and people that have

517
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.079
been in it for a long time, they'll say that

518
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.839
X usually means out And Ed is saying that in

519
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.440
the comments too, that from Indiana.

520
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.119
So we so do we piss them off every time

521
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.000
we go up there and take those exit and kick

522
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.640
them off the road? Probably?

523
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:46.400
Probably? Potentially, Yeah, it's it's probably not a fun thing

524
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.799
for them, I would guess. But I mean usually if

525
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.160
I'm out there, I try to keep things as it

526
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.559
is as they are. I don't try taking down stuff.

527
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.279
If you find structures like weird wooden structures, don't go

528
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:00.920
in them, try to take them down.

529
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:02.640
I wouldn't do that, but like when they put it

530
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.160
in the middle of the road, you kind of got

531
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.720
to move it so you can get your truck or

532
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:06.720
your vehicle up the road.

533
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:08.599
I get it. I get so it might be a

534
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.680
thing where he's like, hey, guys, you know if I

535
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:14.319
if I want to get up there, I need to

536
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.240
move this and ask I don't know. It's a tricky one, right,

537
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:19.920
Why are I trying to get you out of there?

538
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:20.200
You know?

539
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.559
Do I leave them maybe a gift if I move

540
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.880
it like an apple?

541
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.839
You you could do that over this side or you

542
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:32.839
could eats saying you could ask them not to put

543
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.359
it in the road. Maybe put it on the side

544
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:38.880
of the road, is my my thought. Okay, yeah, try

545
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.240
to come to it some kind of understanding.

546
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.119
Yeah, I think. I think there are amazing creatures and

547
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.680
amazing oh yeah animals and what they can do is

548
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.720
it fantastic? And so I don't want to hurt them.

549
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.319
I don't want to bother them, but I also don't

550
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.920
want them hindering how I get around on my property.

551
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.039
Sure it's in situation is like her is, it's a

552
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.359
lot of it is coming to an understanding and you know,

553
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.279
living in harmony piece all that, and.

554
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.839
Yeah, and like I don't know, is this a thing too,

555
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:19.720
Like I'm I'm nineteen right now, but like whenever my

556
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.160
dad it's my dad's property, my parents are split. Whenever

557
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.359
my dad and there's no parents in the house are

558
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:29.359
there for like two or three days, the activity spikes almost.

559
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:31.960
Really that's really interesting.

560
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.480
Okay, it's like do they find my dad threatening or

561
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.000
do they find older men threatening and so and do

562
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.519
they find like, yeah, do they find younger kids more

563
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:51.640
like I don't know how to say it, like less threatening?

564
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.119
Thing can get closer because like I've heard things about

565
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.319
like them liking to watch kids play and stuff.

566
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.599
Yeah, I mean, and a lot of people repoor they're

567
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:08.680
curious females, children, people watching TV things like that. And

568
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.960
you know, if you do have an individual where they're

569
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.640
kind of more like an alpha male, they're older, bigger,

570
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.720
et cetera. Or they have some kind of weapons something

571
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.160
when they're around, yeah, they're probably not going to get

572
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.680
as close and cause mischief, you know.

573
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.920
Because yeah, it's like and like me at the time,

574
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.920
of when that sister one with my sister happened, I

575
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.440
was probably I think I was eighteen at the time.

576
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:35.400
Was last year.

577
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.920
Yeah, But like.

578
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:43.480
I've had times when I had buddies over and stuff

579
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.079
and they didn't bother me my buddies, But like the

580
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.000
one time when there was a bunch of these girls

581
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.640
running around, I wonder if that's like that was like

582
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.000
something that clicked in his head and like peaked his curiosity.

583
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.640
Was with all these little girls running around.

584
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:01.519
Yeah, and that there are different things associated with that

585
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:03.640
that I have to be I'm not really going to

586
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.160
get into on this platform just because I want to

587
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.359
keep the platform, if you get what I mean. But uh,

588
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.039
I think you kind of get what I'm talking about

589
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.240
that Yeah, yeah, exactly.

590
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.440
I was just saying maybe that he finds them less threatening,

591
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.920
or finds them more totally active or stuff like that,

592
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.480
And it was like, Okay, that's I'm used to seeing

593
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.599
all these guys around here. They're big and threatening, but

594
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.960
now there's all these null, little threatening things I'm gonna

595
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:32.079
be I'm gonna investigate.

596
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.119
Yeah, I think that's a good way to put him, man, Yeah,

597
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.519
you got it, exactly. That is a good way to

598
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.559
put it, man, But dude, you are in in the

599
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.559
middle of some wild, wild stuff. Keep me in the loop.

600
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.359
You got my email, But thank you so much for

601
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:48.920
coming up.

602
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:49.200
Man.

603
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.160
If you have any more questions, you'd feel free to

604
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.119
reach out. I'll try to ask him or try to

605
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.160
answer him best I can.

606
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:56.200
You.

607
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.000
Hey, beuddy, doing good.

608
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.720
You still doing good. Thanks for coming up man. Yeah. Yeah,

609
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:03.519
I'm from Iowa.

610
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:08.280
I'm sixty five years old. I was a professional trapper

611
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:14.639
along the Missouri River with my buddies, and I lived

612
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.599
in Portsmouth, Iowa, which is right at the edge of

613
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:23.639
the Lowest Hills. And if you know anything about the

614
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:28.920
Lowest Hills, it's a very dense, dense forest along the river.

615
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.039
And so that's where I trapped, and so a body

616
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:37.440
of mine. We were doing a lot of spotlighting coons

617
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.360
raccoons because we were making one thousand dollars a week

618
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:48.519
at the time, and we found a crip that we

619
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.599
were found a lot of raccoons in. So one night

620
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.159
it was my turn to run down into the river

621
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.360
with flashlight. So I run down into the river and

622
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.440
I'm ready to to go across the creek, and all

623
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:09.519
of a sudden, I hear this giant something running in

624
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.679
in the middle of the creek, and it was two legged.

625
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.280
It wasn't four legged, it wasn't a deer. It was

626
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.000
two legged. And I've spent all of my life out

627
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.280
in the wilderness because that's what I did. And I

628
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.360
was always in the middle of the night out trapping

629
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:32.440
and hunting. And it ran up the creek and it

630
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.320
stopped right in front of me, and I yelled at

631
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.639
it because I knew it was a person. I thought

632
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.440
it was a person, and I said, who are you?

633
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:43.639
Who are you?

634
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.519
Answer me? And it stood right and it was only

635
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.239
twenty five feet away, and it was big because I

636
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.840
could tell by the way it was running up the creek,

637
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.320
and it wouldn't answer. So finally it scared me, so

638
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.159
I shot over its head and then I just took

639
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:06.280
off running, went back to the truck and told the

640
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:12.239
guys nothing. I didn't tell them nothing because I did

641
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.639
because I was not afraid of nothing. And they knew

642
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.400
I was the main guy, and if I was afraid

643
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:19.199
of something.

644
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:20.400
They wouldn't.

645
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.320
And you're not the main guy, yes, exactly.

646
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.159
I ran everything okay, And if I got scared of something,

647
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.320
and I'd been out in the woods all of my

648
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.679
life in the middle of the night, but that was weird. Okay,

649
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.079
that was the first thing that happened. So then I

650
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.159
come back the next day because I wanted to go explore,

651
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.159
and I didn't say anything to my buddies, didn't say nothing,

652
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.559
and I went looking and I didn't see any tracks, nothing.

653
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.840
But as I we were going up the creek, we

654
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:58.800
found a giant cave. It was five foot high and

655
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:03.039
it went back in probably i'd say seven foot into

656
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:07.039
the clay and it was all carved out with fingers

657
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.800
for like a bear. It was clawed out, and we

658
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.599
were like, there's no bears around here, what could have

659
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:21.119
clawed this cave out? And I still didn't say anything. Okay,

660
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.960
I didn't say a thing to the guys. So then

661
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.920
I said, well, we're going to start I told my buddy,

662
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.159
we're going to start trapping this because there's a lot

663
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:37.360
of a lot of a lot of raccoons in this creek.

664
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.199
So and I never told him a thing. So we

665
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.320
went out there and we were trapping this for about

666
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.599
three days. We set all of our traps out and

667
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.639
so he dropped me off on one end of the crick,

668
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.079
and he went on to the other end of the crik,

669
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.400
and he's supposed to be we're going to meet in

670
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:02.639
the middle, and all of a sudden he comes flying

671
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:08.679
down across, you know, through the field, honking his horn

672
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:10.840
and yelling and screaming out the window.

673
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.679
Get out of there, Get out of there, Get out

674
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.199
of there, now, get out of the creck.

675
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:18.719
So I come running out of the creek and I

676
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.920
come running up to him, and he's freaking out. He's

677
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.039
got tears coming down his eyes, and he says, I just.

678
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:25.639
Ran into Bigfoot.

679
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.840
And he says he was down at the edge of

680
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.039
the creek and he looked across it and he heard

681
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.639
a grunt and he looked and he's only fifth away,

682
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.599
and here's this bigfoot standing there and he's swaying back

683
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.800
and forth. And all he did is made one grunt.

684
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.360
But he and then my friend, he turned around and

685
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.280
took off running. And to this day, if you if

686
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.920
I get him on the phone, he will tell you

687
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.599
that he ran into big Foot. So then we go

688
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.519
back to town and then he tells everybody in town

689
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.559
that he ran into Bigfoot. And they all think he's crazy, right,

690
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.679
because we lived we grew up in a small town.

691
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.639
So if you do something like this, if you tell

692
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:19.800
somebody something like this, you know they're going.

693
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:20.480
To make fun of you.

694
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.880
So the whole you know, we had probably I don't know,

695
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.000
six or seven guys went out on a search party

696
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:33.199
looking and they saw the cave. Everybody saw the cave,

697
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:39.800
all scratched out, and they all believed us. So that's

698
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:41.280
my story very short.

699
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.320
That is awesome though, because I don't hear a lot

700
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.280
of Iowa stuff. What year was that again?

701
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:49.760
This was like nineteen seventy five?

702
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:54.119
Oh wow, So yeah, there was something like that. There

703
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.760
was a ton of bigfoot stuff happening all over the

704
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:02.440
place in Iowa in the mid to seventies, especially in

705
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:08.159
like Raccoon River area, and that's up north. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

706
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.960
that's crazy man. And you said this was Portsmouth, Yeah, Portsmouth, Iowa. Wow.

707
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:14.920
Yeah.

708
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.840
So have you I've heard of maybe one other thing

709
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.480
happening a little a little Westie and it was not

710
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.199
in the seventies. Have you heard of other things happening

711
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:25.000
in that same area?

712
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:25.519
No?

713
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.960
I never researched any ok, never just beginning to I'm

714
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:30.440
just you know.

715
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.599
Yeah, fascinating stuff. I've never heard of anything happening in Portsmouth,

716
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.119
so this is really cool to get it documented.

717
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.360
Not in the trees, you know, we're just on the

718
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.800
edge of the you know, the lowest hills. Yeah, but

719
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.159
I've spent all my upbringing in the lowest hills and

720
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.280
that's a pretty intense forest.

721
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.320
There is a book. Let me look it up real quick.

722
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.480
Just make sure I get the title for you if

723
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.519
you want to what is it. It's right, Monsters of

724
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.519
the Hawkeye State by David Weatherly, and it's got like

725
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.320
eighty pages of all the Bigfoot activity that's happened over

726
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.920
the years in Iowa. It's really good if you're wanting

727
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.880
to look into it. That's that's a really that's like

728
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.000
your one resource right now. So let's say that again

729
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:25.440
with Monsters of the Hawkeye State by David Weatherly. Yep.

730
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.599
So it's a good one. It's good stuff. Thank you,

731
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.320
Thank you sir for sharing your experience. I appreciate it.

732
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:35.920
Thank you.

733
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:42.800
You have a great day you too. Before we wrap

734
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.159
this episode, I want to say something directly to a

735
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.440
very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

736
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.159
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

737
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.599
no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger,

738
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.320
a forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet. If

739
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.880
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

740
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.079
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

741
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.679
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

742
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.719
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

743
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.360
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

744
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.519
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

745
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.400
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

746
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.079
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

747
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.719
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

748
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.280
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

749
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:38.039
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

750
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.320
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

751
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:45.800
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

752
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.559
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

753
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.320
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

754
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.519
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

755
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.559
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

756
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.360
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

757
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:09.480
We've got.

758
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:09.840
The mic.

759
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.480
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