Under Attack at our Family Cabin in West Virginia

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right, Big Fort Society. We've
got the privilege of talking to Will tonight.

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He's a listener that reached out to
me from Virginia and he's had quite

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a few things happen to him over
the years. But how's it going tonight,

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Will? That's going all right?
I'm just glad to finally being able

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to look off my chest. Absolutely. You were talking to me before the

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interview and you said you've been listening
almost since the very beginning of the podcast,

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and I appreciate that. That's pretty
cool. It's crazy to think it's

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almost going on five years, but
you had sent me an email and you've

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had some really interesting things happen.
I'm excited to hear your story and then

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maybe ask some questions. But I'm
going to go ahead and give the reins

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over to you will and any context
our listeners need to know. Feel free

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to go ahead and start sharing your
story. Okay, sounds good. So

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I'm originally from the state of New
York and my mom's side of the family

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is from West Virginia where this is
pretty much all started from as a little

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kid. Since the show Finding bigfootead
came out, it really sparked my interest

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and I knew. I was like, hey, Grandma and Grandpa, they

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have a cabin in West Virginia.
It's in the middle of nowhere. I

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was about twelve years old, bugged
my uncle so many times, like take

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me up to the cabin, Let's
go bigfoot hunting, Let's go bigfoot hunting,

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and he finally said, okay,
all right, let's do it.

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So after watching Finding Bigfoot being a
kid, I was like, I want

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to do everything they do. From
call blasting and setting up trail cameras and

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things of that nature. So nothing
really happened our first time when I went

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out when I was twelve, but
we would spend a solid week up at

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the cabin at a time during the
middle of summer summer break. Everything really

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started kicking off when I was thirteen
years old, and I don't know,

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it's hard to imagine experiencing things at
such a young age that everybody in my

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life had always told me, Oh, that's fake, that's make believe,

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that's not real. You're crazy to
them, being like, huh, I

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saw this, and you all tell
me it's fake, but it's flesh and

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blood, and I saw it with
my own two eyes. So the first

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thing that had happened was being him
got up to the cabin. It was

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just a normal kind of hot day
in West Virginia. We unloaded a bunch

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of stuff, and my uncle had
this big bluetooth speaker and we were going

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to do call blasting. So we
had stayed up pretty late, probably about

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one or two o'clock in the morning, just blasting calls off the front porch

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of the cabin and really didn't hear
too too much. Nothing out of the

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ordinary the first night we were there, and the second night we decided,

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hey, let's go camping. We'll
set up a trail camera. We camped

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around the property that night and that's
when things started more peeking and popping off.

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I don't know if it's because where
they how the cabin was set up

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that things didn't really want to go
around it. My uncle had these ideas,

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let's do wood knocks. That night, which was the second night we

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were there, he started popping off
woodknocks on the tree. Everything was pretty

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quiet to start and he had gotten
up and sorry, Teremiah, this is

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it's just a lot to think back
on and finally be able to talk to

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He had gotten up to use the
bathroom and I heard him get up,

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and it wasn't nothing out of the
ordinary for him to get up and hear

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somebody walk away. He came walking
back. I heard him get back in

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his tent and it was probably good
twenty minutes later. Being young in the

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middle of the woods, it's hard
to go back to sleep have to hear

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somebody get up. And I had
known that he was laying down, and

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all of a sudden, it just
sounded like something on two feet was just

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pacing around where we were camping at
and I tried to wake him up,

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and I didn't really want to yell
or anything, and I was freaking out

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and I was like, hey,
wake up, and I didn't get any

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response out of him. And eventually, on that night, I just heard

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whatever it was, it just walked
away and I had I finally had fallen

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back asleep. I woke up in
the morning and I ran up woke my

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own club, like did you hear
what was going on last night? Did

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you hear that? And he's just
like no. I was like, dude,

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something's completely walking around our camp.
He's like, okay, well take

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me to where you think you heard
it walking around. And we got up

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that morning and we walked around and
we actually had found a pretty deep indent

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footprint. And I still wish that
I spoke with this uncle who used to

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take me up there, but we
really don't talk much anymore. All these

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other things that I'm going to talk
ramble on about. I guess he had

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all these pictures on his phone of
the stuff that we had found and seen

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and stuff, but he had a
picture of the footprint, and the only

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kind of crappy part was there was
only one that we could really find.

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And then during the day we had
went back to the cabin and we were

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talking about it and we were both
excited. But at the same time he

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wore SI thirteen boot and it was
bigger than his boot, and I looked

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at him. Uncle's not the type
of guy to get nervous, but he

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was just like he was always on
the spectrum of I don't know if this

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thing's real, that how this thing
is probably real. That night we had

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gotten back to the cabin. Nothing
really took too much place during that time

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during that trip other than I just
heard something just pacing around us and we

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kicked it back at the cabin.
For the rest of the couple days we

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stayed up there, and it was
kind of a lot of things letting let

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up to me not going back to
the cabin, which I haven't been back

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to that cabin since I was sixteen, and I refused to go back.

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But anyway, so the next summer
that we went up there, this is

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when things started to get a lot
more up at eat with activity, and

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it was just it was a lot
more rampant. I don't know if I

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just I don't know, it was
just got a lot different During that summer.

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When I was fourteen, we always
went up to the cabin at the

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same time, and during this time
things just got more intense. So we

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got up there. The first night
it was pretty quiet, but the second

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night we started just cooking over and
open fire, and we were just hanging

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out being loud and roudy. The
sun started to go down a little bit.

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We always cooked over the open fire
when we were there because we didn't

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have a grill or anything up to
the cabin, and it has the tin

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roof, so we started hearing just
like little tings off the tin roof,

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and it sounded like something was throwing
rocks. And he looked at me,

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and I looked at him, and
I was like, huh. I took

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a rock and I threw it back
up there, and then it just started

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progressively getting louder. It wasn't like
repetitive, it was like king. It

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was like you hear like ting,
and then it'd be like three or four

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second pause, and then you hear
like another ting, and that's when it

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was just completely out of the ordinary. We both looked at each other and

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we're like, that's not natural.
What would be up on the side of

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this mountain, just the throwing things
and perfectly hitting this roof. Now I

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say it's a cabin, but it
was just really one of those big double

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wide trailers, but it was on
the nicer end. And I started throwing

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rocks back after we would hear rocks, and all of a sudden it was

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just like this damn on the top
of the roof, and you saw this

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massive rock, almost the size of
a basketball, just roll and just smack

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on the ground in front of us. We both looked at each other and

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we were like, what the heck
is that? And He's just like,

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stop throwing rocks up there. Stop
throwing rocks up there. This isn't a

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good idea. So we got the
food off the fire and we just went

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back in the house. And I'm
getting chills even talking about this. It

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was just like, what the heck
is going on? And so sun went

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down and we were getting ready for
bed moun because let's not go outside of

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the night. Let's not piss anything
off that's in the woods that we shouldn't

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be pissing off. And I was
okay with that. I was a little

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bit on the a little bit on
the shakier side after that happened, because

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I just wasn't expecting that to happen. Just literally a rock the size of

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a basketball smashing off this roof.
So it came out. It was about

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ten thirty eleven o'clock at night.
My uncle I had went to bed,

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so it was a one bedroom,
and then I would sleep in the living

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room. And how the living room
was set up as you'd walk through the

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door, and we had a futon
against the wall, and then against the

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other wall there was another futon,
but there was a window where when I

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laid down, I could look up
out the window and there was a window

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in front of me. So that
night I was just I finally had fallen

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asleep, and all of a sudden
I just heard something loud, just pacing

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and not even pacing, I don't
want to say it was pacing, but

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just surpling. It was loud footsteps, and it made my heart start beating

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through my chest, and I was
just like, okay, I was like,

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maybe I'm hearing things. And I
would just try to keep myself calm

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until I heard it come around the
side of the cabin and I could tell

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this thing was on two feet and
I heard step on the bottom of the

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deck and the step had the steps
went up. There was five steps and

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you'd reached the top of the deck. I heard step and you heard the

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wood and I'm just sitting there shaking. I'm like, oh, I'm like,

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what is this? What's going on
in my dreaming? But no,

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I was one hundred percent awake,
and my heart was pounding through my chest

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and I could hear just these really
deep breathing and it was just almost like

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a grunting. It was just something
like I have never heard of in my

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life. And I'm sitting there and
I'm freaking out and I hear this thing

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take another step and I'm like,
oh my gosh, it's going to the

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door. And I heard another step
and then I could hear this breathing and

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this grunt thing still, because it
was only like ten to fifteen feet from

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the edge of the deck to the
front of the door, and I had

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sat up a little bit and I'm
like, please don't come through the door,

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Please don't come through the door.
And I don't know if I really

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should be saying this, but anytime
I went up to the cabinet, you're

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in the middle of nowhere. So
my uncle would always give me a little

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side arm, and he would always
carry a side and because God forbid,

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you don't know if you run into
something you're in the middle of nowhere.

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I could go out to pee and
there could be a mountainine outside, just

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out of context. So I hear
this thing at the door, and I

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just hear it sounded like it grabbed
the door handle and it just jiggled a

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little bit. So I laid up
and I had this side arm on my

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chest and I was sitting there.
I'm like, please, don't come through

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the door. I don't We're gonna
die if this thing comes through the door.

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I'm hyperventilating. I hear the door
jingle and then it stopped, and

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I just heard like a snacked like
I jumped off the other side of the

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deck and I just heard it pacing
off into the woods. And at that

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time, I had noticed that my
uncle had woken up and he came running

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down the hallway. So I don't
know if he had started this thing when

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he came flying down the hallway,
or if it was just curious and just

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wanted. We only went up there
for a week in the summer, in

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two weeks during hunting season, so
I honestly don't know what was going on.

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And we woke up that next morning
and again, but this time we

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were able to see a footstep and
then it was like five to six foot

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stride into another footstep and then off
the other side of the deck. We

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were able to get three footsteps to
where it jumped off the other side of

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the deck. You could see where
it hit the ground with one foot,

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another foot, and then straight into
the woods. And I just that really

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still eats at me to this day. I still sometimes if it clicks in

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my mind at night, I still
trouble trying to sleep. And then this

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is hard some of us is heard
to talk about. And then the following

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night, me and my uncle decided
to stay up. We decided to stay

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up till one or two o'clock in
the morning, I can't remember, and

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we sat on that deck and he
had his AR fifteen and we just waited

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because it freaked him out just as
bad as it freaked me out, I

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think. And then that that trip
up to the cabin we cut short.

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We only wanted up staying for three
days, and my uncle doesn't. He

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wouldn't even talk about a lot of
this stuff to this day. I don't

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know if it freaked him out that
bad, but it took me a lot

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of conveying. We went up there
one more time, and this was the

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last time that we ever went up
there. Me. I don't know if

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he's ever been back up there.
I know my grandparents are trying to sell

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the property, and they've been trying
to sell it for years now. So

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the third time, which was the
last time we went up there, which

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was the following year, it just
like everything. I don't know if we

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pissed this thing off bike going up
there. I don't know if they're migrate

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through this area at this time of
year, but this time everything just went

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absolutely like bonkers off the wall.
So there's a long driveway to get up

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to where the cabin is, and
in the middle of the road, and

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I wish I still, like I
said, I had these pictures, I

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might be able to get him and
email him to you. There was a

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tree branch broken off, snapped off
a perfectly healthy tree, and this branch

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was really wide, and it was
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to go up to the cabin and
my uncle looked at me when we saw

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that, and I was just it's
like, we're already here. It's an

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hour and twenty minute driving the house. We both enjoy going up here.

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Other than the stuff that happens,
we used to have good time going up

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there. I said, let's just
try to stay a couple of days of

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things. If we get freaked out, we'll just go home. And he's

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like, all right, that's a
good idea. So we moved this tree

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ranch out of the road just instantly
when we got up to the cab,

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and I just got this feeling that
something or something is just there and I

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can't express this feeling, and I
didn't want to say anything to him,

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and we got everything packed in the
house and we decided to all right,

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we'll stay the night. So the
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We went outside, we cooked dinner, nothing happened and nothing hitting the

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house or anything crazy, and so
the first night we kept everything pretty calm.

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The second night, same thing.
We just went hiking and we hung

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out around the cab and we made
a bunch of noise, cooked food,

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hung out, nothing too easy.
And then the third night we were sitting

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outside on the deck and it was
probably eleven twelve o'clock at night, and

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I just got this boneheaded idea.
I'm like, we came up here to

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go bigfoot hunting, and we both
enjoyed being up here. I said,

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I'm just gonna do a whoop.
I said, I just want to see

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if anything's around. So I whooped, and then I whooped again, and

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then I waited another thirty seconds and
I whooped and we both sat down and

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I was like, you really think
that's gonna work, And I said,

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screw it. I said, we're
let's just see because we were I'm just

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I'm addicted to being a big foot
nut. And about twenty minutes later,

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we heard a would knock and it
was off in the distance. It wasn't

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nothing like super close, and I
looked at him me he looked at me,

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and I was just like, okay. So I whooped again. And

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then ten seconds later you heard a
whoop, but it was off to our

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right and the wood knock it came
from the left, and he looked at

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me, and I was just like, okay, whatever, So I whooped

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again. But I whooped three times
again this time, and then this thing

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imitated because I paused three to four
seconds in between my whoops. It whooped

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again, but it whooped the same
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just like, okay. And then
this time I decided I watched a lot

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of funding bigfoot. Like I said, but you know how Bobo does this

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bigfoot call. I'm like, I'm
gonna do bigfoot call. I just want

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to see, so I let out
and it will probably it probably sounded funny,

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but I let out what I could
to be the best bigfoot call I

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could. And then I don't know
if I take this thing off by trying

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to imitate it, and it didn't
sound right. But in thirty seconds I

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this screamed to Howell. Still just
sit here, and it haunts me.

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I'm so scared because I'm an avid
hunter to be out in the middle of

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the woods and hear this noise again. It almost sounded like the Ohio Howell.

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I've heard it a couple times on
your show. I've done research to

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try to figure out what it sounded
like. But it was just like it

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freaked me out. It was just
like nothing in the woods should make that

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kind of a noise. And I'd
been hunting in West Virginia and Virginia pretty

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much since I was eight years old
with my uncle and my grandpa and my

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dad, and it's just nothing in
the woods that lives here should make a

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noise like that. And I was
just like, holy crap. And then

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the rest of that night we would
hear whoops and stuff back and forth.

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And I don't, like I said, I don't know if we just pissed

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everything off in the woods that night, but it was crazy. He used

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to have it was crappy audio because
it was two thousand and fifteen on his

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phone, but we used to have
audio to where you can almost hear these

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like you could hear it faintly,
and it was just absolutely insane. And

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I wish I could had a way
to imitate these noises, but it's just

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not natural. It was just it
still freaked me out to even think about

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something in the woods that can make
noises like this. And so we had

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went back in the cabin that night, and we woke up pretty early in

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the morning as we were deciding if
we wanted to stay. Just sounded like

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we pissed everything off, and we
were up for a good twenty thirty minutes,

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and we started packing everything up and
we were just sitting down for a

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minute, and all of a sudden, it was just like something ran up

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to the side of the house the
cabin and slapped it and like it vibrated,

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and we both looked at each other, and he jumped up with the

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gun and he ran around the house
that there was nothing there, but he

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had a picture where you could see
this. It was like almost like an

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oily handprint hammed on the side of
this house. And I mean, I'm

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getting chills even talking about this,
and it was just absolutely insane. And

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then at that moment we heat.
When he came back in the house,

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he said, we gotta go.
He's all going, and he took a

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picture of that hamprint. But ever
since those things happened up at the cabin,

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I haven't been back, and I
refuse to go back. And my

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biggest goal was I wanted to find
Bigfoot, but I want to leave it

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alone. I wanted to if he's
up in that cabin in West Virginia,

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I just want him to live happy. I don't want to piss him off.

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And quite frankly, I don't know
if I even want to truly experience

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all of that again, because it
still messes with me sometimes to this day.

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And when we were leaving the cabin
that morning, my uncle swears up

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and down, and I believe him
because he's never lied to me in my

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entire life that he saw something seven
to eight feet tall in black, just

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tucked back in the side of the
woods, just peeking around a tree.

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Now I didn't see it, but
it was just the events that happened up

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there is just still freaking me out. So I had a few questions.

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It's really interesting, and thank you
for sharing what you went through during those

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summers. I was interested what particular
calls you were call blasting. So there

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was a finding Bigfoot app that used
to be on the app store, or

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it would have the Ohio Howell,
it would have Bobo's Call, it would

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have had a whole bunch of different
things where you could hook your phone up

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to the speaker and just blast off
of that. Oh really, I had

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no idea. That's awesome because this
gets cabin your nearest neighbors four or five

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miles away. It was literally in
the middle of nowhere, okay, and

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you had no phone service and you
had to it was only landline only.

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That kind of leads into my next
question, which is can you share anything

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about what area of West Virginia this
cabin trailer is in, So if people

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know West Virginia, it's in between
warden It's pretty close to Wardensville, West

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Virginia. It's just on the outskirts
to where you almost go down Corridor each

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and the moorfield was Virginia, but
it's tucked way back. You can only

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get up there at the four wheel
drive vehicles. I don't know what made

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my grandparents buy this cabin. They
bought it thinking maybe like a family summer

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house, but you can't get up
there with the car. It's in Hardy

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County. They'll probably be a listener
that will know about Wardensville. It looks

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like it's a very small town,
about two hundred and sixty five people.

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You go out of the town to
Wardensville a little bit and then you hook

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a right, I mean you just
drive forever. Your grandparents own the cabin

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trailer, correct, Yeah, did
you ever talk to them or ask them

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about bigfoot activity on the property.
No, but my I probably it probably

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wouldn't be a bad idea. So
my grandma She's from a small town in

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g Lady, West Virginia, and
she always told me because my great grandpa

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always told her that you don't want
to mess with things that come out in

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the night in the mountains because they're
very hardcore. She grew up in the

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middle of nowhere, and my grandfather
was a coal miner. My great grandfather

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was a coal miner and lived in
a town of seventy five people, and

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he would always want all the grandkids, the great grandkids, and the grandkids

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in at night. He did not
like us out at night on his property.

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And my grandma was the same way. I don't I could ask her

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if you want me too, and
I could always email you what she says.

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Oh, will you know their stories? Will you got to ask for

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me? That would be amazing.
Yeah, I'm sure they ran into stuff

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on that property. Yeah, because
my grandparents have run up there. Like

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I said, we all stopped going
up there. I refuse, I will

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not go back up there. You
could give me a hank, and I

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won't go back up there. So
nobody goes up anymore. No. I

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don't know if my grandfather's been up
there recently, but I refused to okay.

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Yeah, you got to reach out
talk to your grandparents. I always

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get to talk to them if you
can. But yeah, to talk to

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them and ask if they're there's anything
weird that ever happened at the property.

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And it might be a thing where
you might have to word it a certain

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way too, although they'll know what
you're talking about. They would have to

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know if you say bigfoot or things
like that. But yeah, they might

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come back with it. We had
some big monkey type things running around.

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Honestly, wouldn't be surprised. Man, that's wild. You say, you

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say you haven't talked to your uncle
lately. Yeah, we didn't even have

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him probably talked, okay, but
he may potentially have audio and photos from

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one of the summers or times up
there. Yeah, okay, I'll reach

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out to him. There's just no
guarantee. He oh yeah, no,

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probably if you don't mind reaching out, that would be amazing. There's going

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to be at least one person that's
going to be thinking this because you mentioned

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you're going to try to sell the
property. Yeah, properties for six acres.

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Oh that's why right near right here. I don't remember the name of

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the National Force that runs through there. I know there's one big force that

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should run through. I'll get the
address for you too from my grandparents and

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you can Google map that. It
is literally in the middle of nowhere.

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It feels like there's it feels like
there's more history to that area too.

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I think when you start digging a
little bit, you will probably you'll probably

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find something else. I think that's
wild. You mentioned that your uncle had

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an AR fifteen. Yeah, we
both always carried two AR fifteens and two

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pistols. Weren't out there, Okay, so you were ready to go.

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Yeah. I always had this anticipation
like I see this thing, I'm gonna

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shoot this thing. But you know
what, I'm good after the next thing

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that we talk about, I'm good. You know what. I don't know

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what kind of caliper bullet would stop
something like this. It's just it's crazy.

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Any weird smells at any time when
you were up in that cabin area,

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oh yeah, you would always get
like, I mean, I know

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what a bear smells like, and
it was just like it smelled like a

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dead carcass mixed with a wet bear. It was just this funky, weird,

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nasty smell. And it all the
time. Right, okay, gotcha.

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Any sounds that were at a place
that didn't scream like Bigfoot, but

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you heard it and you were like, that's really weird. That doesn't really

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belong out here. I've heard whistles
before, and almost like a tongue clacking

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noise almost. It's it's hard to
like a popping noise almost. Any sounds

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that would make you think, is
there someone else here? Sorry? Are

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there other people here? No?
I knew for a fact something happened and

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you were in the woods you were, it'd be a very hairy situation,

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like you could potentially not make it
out of there. I mean, I

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know for a fact there was nobody
up there. How close would you say

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the closest neighbor is to this area. It's a long way away. I

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probably a good ten minute drive down
the road, fifteen minute drive to the

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cabin. I'm not really sure how
you kept going back after some of this

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stuff. Man, it's just like
I want to see it kind of curiosity.

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And after that last thing, I
was just like, dope, I'm

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good. Oh the oily handprint on
the side of the trailer. Was it

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a certain color at all? It
was got I don't know how to like

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almost like a carmel color, like
a caramel like I really like caramel color

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almost. But I also could have
been because the side of the house was

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dirty or something. I only saw
it off the picture because like my uncle

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really just wanted to go like he
was done. And my uncle's a big

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dude. He's six foot one,
he's got big hands, and this thing

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made his hand look small. It
shook the side of it, and he

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was just like, nope, we're
done. What kind of food were you

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cooking out on the campfire? Just
bring like for like hamburger meat and hot

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dogs and sausage patties and bacon,
okay, gosh, anything. So I'm

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just going to say some really weird
sounds just for fun. Nothing that sounded

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like a baby crying, no okay, and random like metallic door opening anything

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like that. No, okay,
cool good. But yeah, sometimes you

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almost hear and I don't want to
say it like this, but it was

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like somebody trying who doesn't speak fluent
English. It almost sounded like they were

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trying to say my name or my
uncle's name. We've heard that a time

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or two and it just didn't really
make sense. You're just jogging things back

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in my memory, asking questions,
and it was just weird. That's really

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unsettling because it's almost like something could
be hearing your uncle say your name,

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or you say your uncle's name,
and then it's trying to mimic it,

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right. Yeah, dude, that's
wild because I know that in West Virginia

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there's a lot of stories of things
mimicking trying to lure you out in the

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woods. West Virginia is a high
place when you would hear those what sounded

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like your name, Would you hear
other sounds at the same time or in

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close proximity to that, I don't
know. It very well could have been,

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but I don't know if I was
just so ficiated on hearing my name

408
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:47.000
being called. Yeah, but I
really just focused on that. So that

409
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.440
happened in the morning when I would
like, I get up to go outside

410
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.160
the pee, and then I knew
my uncle was sleeping, and then like

411
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.599
off this well, I could look
straight into the woods and it sounded like

412
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.839
it was coming from right in front
of me. Almost wow. So you

413
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.759
heard it in the morning. Were
there any other times a day that you

414
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.279
would hear that as well? No, it was only if I went outside

415
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.920
in the morning by myself, and
my uncle heard the exact same thing,

416
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.079
Like whoever woke up first would go
outside and hear something like that. That's

417
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.400
really freaky, dude, That's probably
one of the weirdest things I've heard on

418
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.920
the show. To be honest,
not a huge fan of that one,

419
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:30.839
but it was creepy. Did that
happen many times over the years or was

420
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:36.519
it only during a certain travel time
that you went up there that happened.

421
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.160
We would go up there for hunting
season in November and nothing. It was

422
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.720
only when we went towards the end
of June. But we didn't stay it

423
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.400
overnight. We would just wake up
and go in the morning and then come

424
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.519
back in the afternoon. But I
don't know if it's because we were there

425
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.039
such a short time, but I
did notice too a lot, like the

426
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.720
deer population just completely dwindled down,
because if they've had that cabin. We've

427
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:02.119
been going up there since I was
like eight an ego wes see twenty thirty

428
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.599
deer, and like towards the last
couple of times it went and hung you

429
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:10.480
wouldn't see anything which was not like
that at all. Okay, I was

430
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.759
just gonna ask that how the animals
were around that area. Sounds like there

431
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.559
used to be a good amount any
water sources. Yeah, there was a

432
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.039
creek that ran through the property,
and I know when you first turned on

433
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.319
the road and you would start driving
down, there was somebody's house and he

434
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.039
dug a huge like lake out and
he stocked it full of fish. But

435
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:37.160
that was probably two three miles from
the cabin. But that's still water and

436
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.440
fish. I'd love to talk to
that guy to see what happened when he

437
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:45.799
started digging up his property. There
was a cave. Once you went up

438
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.160
the mountain down the backside, there
was a cave that used to that was

439
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.519
sitting back there. But I never
went up there. My uncle always told

440
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:57.400
me there was a cave on the
backside of the property. Okay, man,

441
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:02.839
oh there's oh yeah, I'm getting
I'm getting the vibes about that area

442
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.480
for sure. Oh, Will,
that's crazy stuff. You're saying. You

443
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:11.359
experienced some things in Virginia as well. It was this one time. So

444
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:18.279
my fiance's family, they live close
to the George Washington National Forest, and

445
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.640
they live in the middle, literally
in the middle of nowhere. So I

446
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.240
was leaving their house one night and
it was dark, it was probably eight

447
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:30.359
or nine o'clock and going down this
road, it's called Worndoff's Trout Farm.

448
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.640
Anybody in this area would probably know
it. And it's this guy. He

449
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:40.680
stocks this huge pond full of trout. Family you go fishing and whatnot.

450
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.319
And I just start driving past the
trout farm and I come around the road

451
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.799
and my headlights hit two eyes standing
in the middle of this field, and

452
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.799
I was just like what And it
was like nine feet off the ground.

453
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:57.160
So I hit it with my high
beams, and honestly, I wish I

454
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:04.759
didn't hit it with my high beams
because I literally saw eyes, a whole

455
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:09.880
face, body definition hair. I
could draw this thing to a tee and

456
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.400
it just I couldn't even pull my
phone out to take a picture because I

457
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.799
was just something in my brains.
Don't need to leave, you need to

458
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.440
leave, stop looking go and I
just I shut my high beatings off.

459
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:28.200
I looked at this thing probably for
a good tens fifteen seconds, and I'd

460
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.000
took off. I was people are
like, how can you not take a

461
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.440
picture of it? And I promise
you if you truly see this thing and

462
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.240
watch it breathing. It's scaring.
We were eyed. It felt like it

463
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.799
was looking into my soul. You
don't think, you just don't think.

464
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.200
And I could draw it to a
tee and I can give you such a

465
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:52.240
vivid description, and it was just
utterly terrifying. Like maybe if I had

466
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:58.440
my side on on me, I
maybe would have gotten out and tried to

467
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.200
take my phone out and take a
good picture of it, or maybe pull

468
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.480
my phone up. But I was
so freaked out. I just felt like

469
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.079
in that situation, I did not
want to die. It just freaked me

470
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.920
out, Like this thing could literally
rip my car door off, pull me

471
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.200
off, and on it snacks me. At that point, you're looking face

472
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.880
to face at the creature fifteen seconds. Did it then walk away or you

473
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.160
kept driving or how did that end? I peeled off, like I completely

474
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.079
stopped in the road and I was
looking at this thing and it made a

475
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.440
move like it gesture to start,
like I don't know if it was gonna

476
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.240
start walking towards me or walking towards
the woods, but I just slammed my

477
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.799
foot on the gas and I took
off, like it just freaked me out,

478
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.039
and it was only like twenty maybe
thirty yards away from the car,

479
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.039
maybe thirty yards, and it just
I always said, huh, I want

480
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.000
to get the best picture, the
best proof, and not until you're in

481
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.319
a situation like that, everything just
changes in your brain. Was this something

482
00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.680
you were able to bring up to
your fiance and your fiance to his family.

483
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:07.160
No, her dad thinks I'm absolutely
crazy that Bigfoot doesn't exist. And

484
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:15.039
she is a huge Bigfoot believer,
but she just can't hear about it like

485
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.920
me seeing it, I guess versus. We watched Expedition Bigfoot on TV together.

486
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.639
So I just don't know if she
doesn't want to believe it's as close

487
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.880
to home as she wants to think
it is, or I don't know.

488
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.599
Oh, so you start talking to
her about how I actually saw one,

489
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.119
and she's I don't even want to
Yeah, I believe you. I don't

490
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.320
want to hear it. I don't
want to be scared to drive a night

491
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.559
for my parents. I also got
it. You said this was near Borne

492
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:45.400
Darf's Rainbow Trout Farm. Yeah,
trout farm. Did you ever go and

493
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.599
talk to them about it at all? No? I probably shouldn't, And

494
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.039
I just I'm just so scared people
are going to look at me and be

495
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:58.559
like, what is wrong with you? I think I'm like crazy, It's

496
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.559
just crazy, this thing. It's
better my brain. I've had nightmares about

497
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.400
this thing just chasing me down.
Do you mind if I ask a few

498
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:12.960
questions about Okay, were you able
to see a color of if there's any

499
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:17.280
hair on it at all? Dark
brown to black? It being at night,

500
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:23.559
it was just very I would say
very dark brown. Gotcha short or

501
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.760
long hair? It was like if
you hold your arms out, the hair

502
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.239
came down like three or four inches, but around like parts of its face,

503
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.280
it had no hair on it.
Okay, what parts of the face

504
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.559
did it not have hair around?
So it looked like somebody who had really

505
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.320
long hair in the face. But
I could see its eyebrows and its forehead

506
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.239
didn't have any hair around the top
of its forehead, and then just a

507
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.679
little bit below its eyes, like
its cheap bone. But the biggest thing

508
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.639
that stuck out is how wide this
thing's mouth was, Like it looks like

509
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:04.119
it could eat an entire watermelon in
one bite. It's almost like the joker

510
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.280
smile. That's very interesting. Did
it have its mouth open it all or

511
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.119
could you see the teeth. I
don't want to say it like they almost

512
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.320
had the demonic smile to its face
where I could just see a little bit

513
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.800
of teeth, but it was like
almost like it was smiling, and it

514
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.000
was just it was just so craepy. It's so hard to explain. It

515
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.159
was just like it's the way it
looked at me with its eyes, and

516
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.440
like once I hit it with the
high beams, then its mouth opened up

517
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:36.639
a little bit and I was just
like what, Like I was just so

518
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.360
blown away, Like it's crazy.
What did it seem to be conveying with

519
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:44.639
its eyes When I was looking at
you? It almost felt like it wanted

520
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:46.519
me to get out of the car. Do you know why it would have

521
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.840
or did you get any feeling as
to why. I don't know. It

522
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.360
was just like part of me.
This thing was like looking at me in

523
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:58.360
a way come out of the car, and then nobody's ever going to see

524
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.880
you again. It was just that's
horrifying. It was, Yeah, it

525
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.800
was just wild. Can you describe
the nose shape? It looked like its

526
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.719
nose was pushed in a little bit, but it was like it had like

527
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:14.800
a wider nostril base and It was
almost like it was like a flat It

528
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.760
looked like almost like a person's nose, but pushed back a little bit and

529
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:22.360
almost flatter to its face with wider
nostrils. You're looking at the nose and

530
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.800
then you have the lips underneath.
What is there a lot of space between

531
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.400
the lips and the nose or it
had a lot Maybe it was like more

532
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.360
of a rounded, coming down face
and everything was just a little bit more

533
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.920
space to part than looking at a
human's face. Sure, Oh, were

534
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.960
you able to see ears at all
on the head? No? Okay?

535
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.360
Was the hair covering them up?
Or yeah? I would think so,

536
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.559
okay, we're able to see like
a certain shape to the head at all.

537
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.039
It was almost it almost looked like
it came up, not like almost

538
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.320
like a pin on the top of
its head, but like its head came

539
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.079
up and it was just like a
little bit like pointy at the top.

540
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.480
I don't want to I don't know
how to explain it. Were you able

541
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:13.400
to tell anything else about the creature
muscular or pfinition wise underneath the hair it

542
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.920
looked like I don't know, if
you know who Eddie Hall is, the

543
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:21.119
bodybuilder, it looked it was huge. This thing was massive. The weird

544
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:27.960
part was is so I looked at
the whole body, and its knees looked

545
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.800
like they sit farther down than our
knees. It was just it had very

546
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:37.719
long It was this thing was insane. It was huge. It was like

547
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:45.239
looking at a nine foot tall like
five foot wide, like bodybuilder. It

548
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.360
was huge. Were you able to
see the hands or arms at all?

549
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.199
Did you notice anything about them?
The hands, So, when you looked

550
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:57.119
at the hands, it looked like
the center of its hand had hair,

551
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.519
but towards the end of the fingers, it had no hair, but it

552
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:07.519
had these insanely long fingers like it's
hands with everything was just like It's just

553
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:12.719
it was just crazy. Everything was
so much more more like proportionate. Gotcha,

554
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:17.920
how would you describe the arms?
The arms were long, but they

555
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.159
weren't like I know, I hear
a lot of people say like its hands

556
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.480
were down to it's knees. They
were close, but it wasn't like like

557
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.159
crazy long arms. But the arms
were very long and very it was just

558
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:36.400
like very tone like jack looking arms
like they were massive. Would you say

559
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:38.880
anything that made you think you're looking
at like a male or a female or

560
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:43.719
an adult or a juvenile or anything
like that. Honestly, I want to

561
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:49.400
say I was looking at a male
just by the pure just size and like

562
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.920
how I felt aggression coming off of
this thing. Were you able to see

563
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.519
the feet, No, it was
almost it was pretty much from like the

564
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.400
knees up. Okay, you said
you had peeled out at any time.

565
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:07.079
Did you get to see the creature
walking around or moving around? No?

566
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.039
I just saw it make that one
gesture right. I didn't know if it

567
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.519
was coming forward or going to its
right, and I was just I didn't

568
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.760
want to be there anymore. Yeah, I don't blame you. If you

569
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:21.360
had to categorize what it looked like, say it looked more like a human

570
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.559
or an ape, or if you
could put it into any category like that.

571
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:29.719
Could you put it into a certain
category, it'd say it looked like

572
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:37.199
sixty to seventy percent, eight and
thirty percent. Even its hands looked like

573
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.920
hours. Its face structure is like
hours. But everything is just other than

574
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:46.920
its lips being its mouth being so
wide, and its eyes were a lot

575
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.440
bigger. I will never be able
to forget its eyes. It was just

576
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.679
like it's almost like you take two
eggs and put it on a face,

577
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:02.719
and the color of the eyes it
was like a reddish greenish tint to the

578
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.599
eyes, which I could have red
eyes, and then my high beams reflecting

579
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.880
off its eyes made it look like
that, but it had tint of red

580
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.880
in its eyes. You said it
reminded you of an ape in some ways,

581
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:21.559
any particular ape or just the broad
category of ape. I can't remember

582
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.199
what it was called, but doctor
Jeff Malgrim talks about them all the time,

583
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:28.239
the great, the giant ape.
It was all. It reminds me

584
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.119
a lot of that. But it
just looking at it and it didn't talk

585
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:36.360
to me in my brain though it
had some higher form of intelligence by just

586
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.440
looking at it and gauging what's each
other's next motion going to be. I

587
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.840
felt like it planned out how I
planned out. If this happens, I'm

588
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.079
going to do this, but if
this happens, I'm going to do that,

589
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.320
almost like it was playing a weird
game of chess with you. As

590
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.000
this sounds like, yeah, it
was like it was trying to plot my

591
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:58.719
move while I was trying to plot
its move, which is just terrifying because

592
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.760
nothing in the world should be like
that smart in my opinion. Right,

593
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.800
Did you drive back to the same
area ever to take a look at it?

594
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.320
Yeah? So I actually have gotten
my buddy who I used to work

595
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.400
with involved, and he was about
six' four and he's a bigfoot guy,

596
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:21.480
and I had him go stand in
that exact same spot and I flipped,

597
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:23.239
I turned the car around and drove
down the road and he was just

598
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:29.039
nothing size wise compared to this thing. It took me a good two weeks

599
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.559
to go back to her parents' house
because I just was like, I don't

600
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.920
want to see this thing again.
What happens if it's standing in the middle

601
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.880
of the road when I leave this
time? Not a thing that you want

602
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.400
to have around your fiance's place.
No, And I go. Her dad

603
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.760
has one hundred acres and the property
at George Washington National Force is maybe half

604
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.599
a mile from where I saw this, Maybe because her parents property bucks up

605
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.880
to the National Force. It is
not surprising. I know it's a very

606
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:04.960
large forest, raight. Yeah.
I've talked to a few people about things

607
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.360
they've encountered in somewhere around that forest. They had to be a little vague,

608
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:16.480
but I'm not surprised at all that
you had that sighting. Your fiance's

609
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.599
father is not into bigfoot at all. Have you ever asked him if he's

610
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:28.480
experienced anything out of the ordinary while
hunting? Though? See, that's what

611
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.559
I was gonna say. I think
he has. He's too scared to talk

612
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.440
about it. Because this man literally
grew up in the hill in the mountains

613
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.000
of Pennsylvania and hunted his entire life, and all of a sudden, he

614
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.960
doesn't like hunting by himself. He
will not go back on, but he

615
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.920
will not hunt by himself. I
won't hunt by myself. But he won't

616
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.880
say why he don't go hunting by
himself anymore? No, he won't.

617
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.440
It's just he just doesn't. He
refuses to. It seems like, yeah,

618
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.480
something there, dude, So he
won't talk about it. He's too

619
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.119
much of a macho type of a
guy to talk about it. Hopefully someday,

620
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.400
maybe give him a few years.
Who knows. Will You have experienced

621
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:14.119
some really interesting things, And I
don't think that your story is over,

622
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.400
even though you might want it to
be over. Regarding it, sounds like

623
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.239
you're not really wanting to have any
more bigfoot encounters. I don't know,

624
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:30.679
is that true or I would love
to experience it again, but in a

625
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.760
different type of a situation. I
wouldn't mind seeing a bigfoot again in person.

626
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.880
It would just I don't want to
be in my car driving at night.

627
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:43.719
If I want to see this thing. I want to see this thing

628
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.719
with a gun, because if you
can plot out my next move to where

629
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.199
I'm going to try to turn and
run away and you're gonna chase me,

630
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.679
I at least want to have a
fighting chance. But I don't even know

631
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.519
if a two, two, three
or five five six bullets it might just

632
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:02.400
laugh. I don't I don't know
how powerful this thing is, and I

633
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.679
just want to have a fighting chance, gotcha. So that's for protection more

634
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:12.280
than trying to get a specimen.
It sounds like, yeah, I don't

635
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.920
After seeing this thing's face, I
don't think I could pull the trigger.

636
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:20.920
But if it's so little side note, I used to be a deputy sheriff,

637
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.639
so in my brain I'm wired.
If it's ne or you, it's

638
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.239
me going home. So I'd like
to see this thing peacefully. But if

639
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.039
it's gonna attack me, I'm at
least gonna try like heck to make it

640
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:37.400
home. That's a big side note. Yeah, I'm sorry I should earlier.

641
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.360
I guess I should have asked the
deputy's sheriff. Part was that when

642
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.760
did that take place? So I
was a deputy shriff from twenty one to

643
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.039
twenty twenty two. Okay, so
that was taking place during some of your

644
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.519
Bigfoot interactions. Yeah, which I
actually talked to a lot of the guys

645
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.079
I worked with and I have some
if you ever want to do part two,

646
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.840
I have some other crazy story whereas
I could tell you from those guys

647
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:07.639
oh really big with the skin walker
to UFOs, I've talked to them all

648
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.519
and they're all pretty open about it. This is like West Virginia sheriff,

649
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.760
this Rockingham County, Virginia. Oh
yeah, we're definitely setting that up here

650
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.239
for another hour. Yeah, oh
yeah, definitely. Yeah, let's see

651
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.920
what we will definitely set that up
because that sounds like it could be very

652
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.679
interesting for sure. And actually that
goes for all listeners. If you used

653
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:38.719
to be law enforcement and you have
info about stuff that your department used to

654
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:45.280
deal with that sounds like that,
contact me Big Society gmail dot com.

655
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:51.760
But will this has been a very
interesting chat. I'll be interested to see

656
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.039
if you come up with any more
information after you contact your grandparents and that

657
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:05.000
about the cabin area, but any
closing thoughts before we head out for the

658
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.760
night, or if anybody wants to
reach out to me, they can find

659
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:14.679
me on Facebook. My name is
William Franzosa fr A and ZSA and I'd

660
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.440
be more than welcome to hearing your
stories, to helping you out, or

661
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.480
if you just want to talk about
it and don't want to share it on

662
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.840
the air like this because I know
it's a lot and just need to get

663
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:29.559
it off your chest. I'm available
to talk. That's great and the cool

664
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.320
thing about will is that he has
that he's had those that face to face

665
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:38.199
interaction. He will definitely be able
to relate in different ways for sure,

666
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:43.639
as I have yet to have that. Well, it's good to talk to

667
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.159
you and it's been a little bit
of time coming for us to chat,

668
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:51.079
but I'm glad we were finally able
to chat. Thank you so much for

669
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.480
coming on tonight. Definitely thank you. You're a big for Society. Article

670
00:47:54.639 --> 00:48:00.320
is to provide a platform for those
that have encountered Bigfoot you share their encounter

671
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:05.760
in a safe environment. But we
need to hear your story. If you've

672
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:12.599
experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot

673
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.119
Soociety at gmail dot com. Then
we can start the conversation. And I

674
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:22.320
know a lot of you have not
shared your encounter at all. It's been

675
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.800
twenty years and it's time that you
get this off your chest and then you

676
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:31.360
can get some well deserved rest because
I know you haven't been sleeping. I

677
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:36.239
understand what you're going through, and
I appreciate every one of you listening