Unveiling Tennessee's Cryptid Mysteries: Bigfoot Encounters and Werewolf Springs Legends with Randy Hutchings!

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They would dress up the parts of
nobles and knights and then elves and spend

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the weekend basically just socializing and buying
medieval kind of attire. This is on

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day five of this event, and
so I'm like, I walk down there

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with you. So we start to
walk down there, and as we're passing

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the last cabin and what's called c
section of this site, we hear this

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snap crack off to the right hand
of the side of us what I can

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only describe as a seven foot hairy
thing that is in the process of walking

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parallel to us. We turn to
look at this thing and it takes a

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couple of steps in its high grass
from the side of the woods and stops,

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turns the whole top half of itself
and look at us and just stares

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at us. It had ruddy red
hair. You could see the musculature under

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its hair. We both started screaming. Either you're listening to the Big for

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I've taken far too much of your
time so far, so let's get

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on with the show, all right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege

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of talking to mister Randy Hutchings tonight. He is a field investigator based out

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of Tennessee. And how's it going
today? Randy? It's going good.

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How are you today? Doing good? Up here in Central Iowa? It's

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starting to get cold up here though. We're getting down to the thirties and

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the twelve fingers crossed that it doesn't
get too cold this winter, but we're

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still having a good time. How
about you guys down there? It's getting

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really chilly this weekend. Actually,
does it get really cold down in Tennessee?

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It depends because you get the foothills
to the appalations and then you've got

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the actual appellations, so like parts
of them, it gets as cold as

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parts of Michigan do. But down
in the some of the hollows, some

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of the basin, like around Nashville, not so bad. Really, it's

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very mild by comparison. Okay,
Randy, you're a field investigator that a

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lot of people may not have heard
of you before, because, as we

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talked before the interview, you stay
off to the side a lit bit.

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You're not really on the internet a
lot. You're not out in the spotlight.

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But I was looking into was that
the wild Man Conference and I noticed

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your name and I was like,
man, that sounds that's a name I

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haven't heard before. And I think
actually you had contacted me as well on

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Facebook Messenger. I was like,
this is really interesting. I had to

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talk to this guy and we had
a little bit of a back and forth,

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some things happened, but we finally
got on. And how did the

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wild Man Conference go? Randy?
It went really well for our first year,

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went smooth. The presenters and the
guests seem to have had a really

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good time all the attendance that we
got to talk to, so they had

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a really good time. They really
loved the lineup that we had with a

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very eclectic line up from one end
of the Bigfoot spectrum to the other.

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Given a very very broad view overview
on the subject. But it was awesome.

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I heard great things about it.
I talked to a few people that

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actually went, and they said it
was a great time. And of course

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you had all the great guys and
gast from down there. You had I

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know, Helbn Holler guys, and
Joe and Jesse and I think Martin Grose

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is there, and you think Art
and was there. All those guys,

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and I don't want to leave anyone
out, but it looks like they always

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have a good time. And yeah, you had some solid lineup. So

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I hope is that a thing that's
going to happen again? You think,

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Randy, we're actually planning the second
one right now as we speak. Awesome,

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Oh man, that is great.
It happened in a interesting area that

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we're going to we'll get in into
later in the show Montgomery Montgomery Bell State

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Park. Correct, yep, we'll
chat about that a little bit later.

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But I would love to start out
by how is it that you got into

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all this this Bigfoot action? To
begin with, Randy Beck? That have

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been like May third, nineteen ninety
seven, my cousin and myself were trekking

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up to an old abandoned rock corry. It's about three or four miles outside

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of the town I live in,
and it's about an hour's trick from where

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you park to actually get it to
where this old abandoned rock cory is.

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And the there's a box canyon there
with a big lake. And we got

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up there to this box canyon and
had stuck our feet in the water,

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just decided we're just going to chill
out for a couple hours here on this

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lake, soak up the sun.
It's late May, late spring. We

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weren't there more than five maybe ten
minutes the most, and something atop one

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of the bluffs off to our right
starts vocalizing at us. And the only

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way I can describe the vocalization that
was coming off this thing was as if

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you would put a hawl or monkey
and combined it with a raging bull and

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a more kind of sound. And
so we both my cousin and I both

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look at one another and honestly,
thinking someone's up there just messing with us,

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we start making the sounds back and
thinking that maybe a hunter's come out

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off the ridge. He's trying to
have a go at us for whatever reason.

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And it goes quiet, It goes
quite by a minute. We figure

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whoever it was they had their fun, and right about the time that we're

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about to discount all this, a
boulder, about a bigger round as my

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torso three hundred pounds at least,
comes flying off of that cliff side.

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And when I say flying, I
don't mean as if like I've had people

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tell me or you shouldn't roll off
the cliff, And it had momentum.

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It went flying, zooming off this
cliff a good twenty twenty five feet and

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splashing down in the water right in
front of us, which got our attention.

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And the first thing my cousin says
to me is he looks over at

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me and his eyes are just huge, and he's you'd have to have thumbs

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to do that, and I'm like, yeah, I think he would.

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And we're sitting there perplexed as to
what just occurred. Maybe a minute,

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two minutes goes by, and the
vocalization starts back up again. It's more

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and I have no idea what that
means, what those vocalizations really mean,

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but the message that it felt like
was you need to leave. You're not

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welcome here. So that's all we
did. We ended up leaving, Okay,

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even though we trekked over an hour
to get up there. We left.

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And having grown up here in Tennessee
and the Sticks, I've been in

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a wildlife my whole life. I've
heard everything in the woods. I know

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what animals sound like out in the
woods. I've never heard this sound before.

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A lot of my relatives are hunters, so me and my cousin went

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to them initially and we're just like, what in the world could this be?

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And most of them were discounting it. One of them said, oh,

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it's probably a cow that got loose. How did you throw a boulder?

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He said, I don't know how
you did that, but I've giving

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us all these discounted BS explanations.
And finally I went online and found a

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vocalization on the BFRO website, and
I don't remember which vocalization it was,

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but it sounded similar to what we
heard. And so I contacted the BFRO

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and they got a researcher to get
in touch with me, and I told

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them everything that happened. They explained
that yet that's classical rock throwing. Behavior

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when they want you to leave an
area. And it was through that that

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I got initially invited to be a
BFRO investigator for a little while. But

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it was while I was doing the
thing for the BFRO for about four months,

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I met the Tennessee bigfoot lady,
Mary Green. Have you ever heard

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of her? And yeah, Mary
Green was working at the time for the

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gc Bureau, which is the Gulf
Coast of Bigfoot research organization. And it

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turned out that she only lived about
forty five minutes up the road from me,

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so she invited me to come up
there and visit her. Went up

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there and visit her, and she
basically was what got me into the bigfoot

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thing really, and she was like, we need more people out there doing

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this. They know about these things, that are willing to go out there

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and be where they know they are. And yeah, she got me into

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the GCBRO back in nineteen ninety seven, followed nineteen ninety seven, and I've

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been doing it. I did it
for them for years. I've done it

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on the side for groups like the
Blue and Gray. I was part of

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the founding member of the Sasquat's Research
Initiative back in the day, so I've

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done research like field investigations for several
groups here and there, along with just

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a whole bunch just for myself,
especially just in my Schall encounter happened Randy

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twenty three. Wow, that's awesome. When you went up to chat with

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Mary Green, any interesting things that
happened when you're up there, just the

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stories that she had should been there, done that. By the time I

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even came along, sho'd been there, done that. So hearing all that

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kind of and it was interesting.
There was a lot of political stuff between

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all these groups, especially back in
those days, and so the BFRO didn't

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like anybody talking to her and she
didn't like it if you were a member

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of the BFRO, And so it
was just a whole bunch of hulla balloo.

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Yep. Something I've always tried to
stay out of is all the drama.

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But she knew her stuff, and
she told me, she's like,

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go out in these areas, look
for this, look for that. And

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she's like, if you find this
and that, stay in those areas and

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then start looking for this and looking
for that. And just like she said,

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we started going out of the areas. One thing we started looking for

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with seep springs. She told us
to look for seep springs. Seep springs

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are like where there's springs, it's
just the water seeping up out of the

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grind. Oh sure, yeah,
And she said those things are crucial and

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the reason being they're there almost year
round. Seep springs are so even during

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the worst parts of the year,
animals know that stuff's there, they'll come,

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they'll get water from it. They're
going to be watching for the animals

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that are coming there to get water
from it. We use that mentality that

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she actually told us and found two
of our active areas that we still have

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to this day. Wow. So
seep spring is one of the big things

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that you look for. Are there
any other big things that you're looking for

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when you're trying to narrow down maybe
a new area or if we're trying to

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down a new area, it's trying
to find if there's been any generational activity

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attributed to the area, as people
for years, has it been going back

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years, has people have been seeing
things, have people been hearing things?

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One thing we especially down here in
the South, it looked for haunted forests,

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like places where people say that the
woods they are haunted. Why are

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they haunted? When you actually start
talking to people as why they're haunted,

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you'll hear these women, these dead
women screaming in the woods, the ghosts

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of these women screaming, and it's
oh, okay, yeah, that's what

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you're hearing, is it? So
it's brilliant. So then after that,

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then you you got into the bigfoot
game. Pretty wild, is what it

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sounds like. You were into all
sorts of groups. You were, you're

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helping out, you're investigating. Were
there any other interesting things that you remember

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over the years maybe did you ever
get any closer to any of the creatures

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or I did have I've had personal
sightings my first siding. I've had four

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sightings thus far, all surprisingly,
all of them within about one hundred and

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fifty acres of each other. Well, I don't know how to explain that.

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I have theories, and I've had
people tell me theories that a lot

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of it being that the family in
that area are relaxed with me and things

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like that as to why they all
happened in the same little area there.

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But my first sighting happened in August
twelfth to twenty eleven, and throughout the

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two thousands, I had a live
event venue business that I ran using state

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parks, specifically group campsites in state
parks that you can rent. And what

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we would do is we would basically
if you've ever been to a Renaissance festival

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or renfair, we basically did that
on a smaller scale using group campsites.

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So we would have like vendors come
in from out of state and they would

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all set up as merchants in these
cabins, and we would have people that

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would come from all over the place
and then they would dress up the parts

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of nobles and nights and the L's
and all this crazy stuff and spend the

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weekend basically just socializing and buying medieval
kind of attire and stuff like that.

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And we would have a jousting events
stuff like that, like I said,

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a miniature Renaissance festival. But the
ore the two thousands, I rented a

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lot of these state parks for these
events that we were having, and it

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was during one of these events that
I had my first sighting and I was

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not my mind was the furthest away
from Bigfoot. At the time, I

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was in the middle of running this
event, and it was about one o'clock

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in the morning, and we had
had a three hour field battle where people

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basically use these latex weapons and just
wall up on each other, just go

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brave heart on one another and done
this for three hours. And everyone's walked

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going their own little ways now,
and one of my staff members is,

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I'm going to run down here to
the river. There's a river about a

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quarter mile off site, down and
down a path and have some smoke,

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and I'm going to go to bed. And we got to get up and

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do this all day again tomorrow.
This is like a this is a two

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week long event, will running.
This is on day five of this event,

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and so I'm like, I walk
down there with you. So we

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start to walk down there. We'll
be back with more Bigfoot Society after these

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words from our sponsors. And as
we're passing the last cabin in what's called

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C section of this site, we
hear this snap crack off to the right

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hand side of us, and I
think it's one of our one of our

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staff members coming to join us.
And turn around and there is what I

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can only describe man as a seven
foot hairy thing that is in the process

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of walking parallel to us. We
both stop and that the guy I'm with,

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he's six foot five. He's a
big dude. I'm six foot four.

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I'm a big guy. We turn
to look at this thing and it

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takes a couple of steps in this
high grass on the side of the woods,

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stops, turns the hole top half
of itself to look at us,

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and stage just stares at us.
And I don't know how to explain this

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other than if you've been a big
guy all your life, there's this level

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of I don't know, intimidation that
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right, smaller guy, smaller people, And that was what this thing

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was projecting towards us. There was
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The confidence. It was insane.
It was just like, we're not

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even threats. And it turned its
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And it had ruddy red hair like
you would see on a really a

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bucking heat, but ruddy red hair. But you could see the musculature under

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its hair. It was hair,
it wasn't fir. You could make out

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muscle definition. Even though it was
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thirty yards from it. There was
enough lot coming from the moon that you

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could still make out muscle definition under
this thing. Yeah, it turned walked

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into the woods and we both started
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And I don't know how to explain
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just straight up. Our brains were
scrambled, but we started screaming and running.

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We started running back towards the tavern
area, and a bunch of people

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come running over to us because they
heard us screaming, and we're asking us

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what was going on, and we're
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We didn't want to start throwing that
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was the first time that we had
we had a siding. I had a

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siding. Do you mind if I
ask a few questions? So that is

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an amazing encounter. The best thing
I love about it is that you weren't

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out looking for Bigfoot. You're no, it sounds like you're doing some sort

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of like renaissance LARPing event. Is
that right where it's exactly what was exactly?

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Yes, no way, you saw
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Yes, sir, I did.
Was it themed a certain way?

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Just high fantasy? That's amazing,
So this high fantasy LARPing and then like,

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yes, Bigfoot is like what is
going on with all these people in

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the woods with these amazing weapons,
and he's probably freaking out. This is

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awesome. Oh man, that's honestly. One of the things I think that

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I've actually come to think is that
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is because we were entertainment. Oh. Absolutely, did you get a

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good did you get a look at
the Bigfoot's face at all? During I

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did not get a good look at
the at the face. I don't know

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why I'm not because, like I
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musculature underneath the hair in the moonlight, but I didn't. I don't know

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if it was the distance or just
the darkness of the face or what it

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was. But when it turned to
look like you could feel the heaviness of

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that things looking at us. Oh, it was a feeling I haven't I

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haven't had before. Would you say
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was it was very I've told people, excuse me, I've told people it

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reminded me more. It had a
lot of muscle on it. But it

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reminded me as if you take an
NBA player and then you wrapped that muscle

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on top of an NBA player,
Like it was more lean than it was

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just brick house. Yeah, so
lean, but very muscular, as like

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a got it. Okay, it's
really interesting. Remind me so how far

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away again from you guys were off
a little bit away from like the tavern

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and things like that. Yeah,
we were at the very last cabin before

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you get on the trail to go
to that little river area. Okay,

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wow, Oh that's awesome. And
from where it was walking too, Like

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I've thought about this a lot,
because I've le I've had my kids like

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that slept in that cabin, the
last cabin on the other side, and

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from the direction he was walking,
I am convinced he was walking from behind

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that cabin where he was peeking in
that cabin. The thing I don't get

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to this day is that he doesn't
that he could have easily just turned taken

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a step into the woods because that
cabin is so close to the woodline,

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and yet he decided to walk parallel
and let us hear him. I don't

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understand that at all. The next
day, were you able to go and

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double check for tracks or any evidence
here? Okay, we did. Some

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of my staff members. We had
a staff meeting and we talked about what

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had happened. We're like, look, you don't have to believe us,

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but it was me and here's my
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Klindo's his name, And basically because
Klindo actually teared up when he was

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talking about it, the big one
of the guys was a big skeptic,

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was like, I believe you guys
saw something because I've never seen that big

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man cry before. But the next
morning, some of the staff members ran

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out there to that to where we
saw it. We told him more,

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we saw it, and we got
we walked out there, and as we

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were walking out there, one of
them was wide as a ghost because there

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was a big, like seventeen and
a half inch print just perfect in the

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grass. And he was just like, and you're sure you guys didn't put

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this out here. We're like,
no, man, we didn't. Wow.

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And so you're trying to run a
LARPing event and you've got all this

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evidence going on, so you're like, I can't really like probably just stop

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everything and start casting this tract because
I've got to keep stuff going on.

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Oh Man, Again, I wasn't
I would. This was the light even

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though I didn't failed investigating since the
nineties. This was the last thing on

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my mind. I was there to
do a job and to direct this event,

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make sure everything went off without a
hitch. So I'm gonna play Devil's

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advocate for a second. Did you
run through the thinking of maybe it's one

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of the people here for the LARPing
event that had some kind of like costume

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or something. Did that come through
your mind for a few seconds? Or

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I've had people ask me that they're
like, are you sure it wasn't somebody

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in a costume? But like it
was. You could see it. You

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could just see it was a real
thing. Gotcha man, that's wild oh

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man? And that happened in Tennessee. Yes, okay, Van Buren County,

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Tennessee. Okay, gotcha man.
That's why did you do research to

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see if any other sightings have also
happened in that area beforehand? Et cetera.

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We had spoke to the game warden
guy, the wildlife management officer that's

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over the place, and he was
actually telling he had actually shared like,

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oh yeah, We've had a couple
of people come in over the years and

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tell us to tell us this bigfoot
story or that bigfoot story, and they're

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like whether or not it's real or
not. But we started sharing stuff with

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them, did that when that happened, We shared that with them when other

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things happened, because that again,
like I said, all the other siddings

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I've had have happened in about one
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Oh this is man. So here's
the thing. So people are always I'm

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gonna get flag for this, but
I don't care. People are always like

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Pacific Northwest. But dude, from
doing five years of interviews Tennessee, the

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crazy stuff I've ever heard is coming
out of Tennessee. Dude in Kentucky like

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it is wild, especially Tennessee East
Tennessee. Oh my goodness, you for

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a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Some of these woods up here are

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are virgin timber. They've never been
logged. People's There may have been some

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people that come through them two hundred
years ago when the pioneers were coming through

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here, but nobody goes through them
nowadays. There's a lot of the hunters

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don't even go through these areas anymore. So that was okay. So did

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anything anything else happen during that two
week span or everyone's just really got the

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foot? We found out actually,
but we found out years later that because

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again that was in twenty eleven.
We found out years later after people started

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finding out about what had happened at
the event. There was people that are

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like, let me tell you what
happened when I did this? Oh no,

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there was an incense where there was
a couple, a married couple that

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came out of their cabin. One
of them was walking to the bathroom one

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of the bathhouses and said that a
tree this is why she put it.

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This tree starts dancing just like this, starts shaking like this, and I'm

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like, so what did you do? And she goes I turned around and

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walked right back into my cabin and
I'm like, why didn't you say something

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to somebody? She's like, what
am I supposed to say to somebody that

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I'm going to the bathroom and a
tree starts dancing. She's I didn't see

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what was making it do that.
But another girl got on I think it

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was day eleven. We were up
there. She stopped going to c section

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because something growled at her when she
went near a bath house. Granted we

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don't know what it was the growled
at her, but something growled at her,

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and it scared her so badly she
refused to go back to that section

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anymore. And then a filmmaking buddy
of mine, Josh Manning, he was

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actually getting up back then and going
to the Art Institute of Nashville for his

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college stuff every morning, and he
mentioned that he's I thought it was maybe

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you guys signaling that people were awake. But he said, I would get

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up out of my cabin and as
I'm going to the bathroom every morning at

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about five point thirty in the morning, back behind ace what's called a section

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of the campsite, he said,
you would hear two knocks. Oh,

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And he said that I thought it
was you guys signaling to each other that

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ah, that I'm awake, and
I'm like, no, man, we

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were already in bed, we were
asleep by that point. So we had

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wood knocks, we had stuff being
shaken at people, all the stuff that

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we had no idea all that stuff
was going on at the same time.

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Oh. And then we found out
later on too from a player that there

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was a player that said he came
out of one of the cabins one time

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and he said that there was a
giant man. The way he put it

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was up under the awning of one
of the cabins, and he said he

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could just see him in silhouette.
But he said this guy was huge.

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And he said that I just stood
there thinking it was one of us,

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so that we're going to attack him
or something, and he said this things

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just frozen. It doesn't move.
And he said, finally I ended up

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walking off and I'm like okay,
and he said it never moved. He

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just stood there. So he was
gone. So there's all this potential other

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stuff that's happened around the same Campsoite
this is my new favorite bigfoot. Like,

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this is literally my new favorite one, Randy, because it's like you

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have all these people that are not
bigfoot people but like experiencing difference. This

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is so cool, man, I
love it. Wow. Have you ever

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gone back and researched that area again? Oh yes, yeah, yeah,

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heavily. That's actually where our main
research area now, oh yeah, and

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that's where I've had my other my
other three sottings was in that same area,

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not the same did the campsite,
but down a trail farther into the

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woods, but in that area the
area. Oh man, so I was

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twenty eleven. Was it stuff like
off the bat or a few years later

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that you experienced other things in that
are? Yeah? Well okay, So

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I didn't go looking for anything right
off the bat. I told myself that

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I had rented this place so many
times and run so many events out of

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this place that this had to be
like a fluke. This had to be

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like it just was coming. It
was on its way through or something.

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There's no way it lived here.
But after I talked to it, like

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I said, I talked to the
game warden guy, and he started talking

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about oh yeah this They told us
about this, and some kids said that

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Bigfoot destroyed their fort and all this
crazy stuff. We actually were going to

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do an event, and we decided
there was this one trail that we'd never

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used before that's just over the little
river area that we were going down through

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that now, and so we were
going to go up this trail. And

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as I was going down this trail, I just goofully started knocking on trees

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and we walked almost a mile down
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every quarter mile or so, and
finally I go, I knock, and

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about forty fifty yards this seems like
in the woodline. There's a response,

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and me and the guy I'm with
both kind of freeze and go to turn.

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And as we're turning on the opposite
side of us from the where we

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heard the wood knocks, there was
what I can only describe is what sounded

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like an exasperated sound, like the
sound of like that. I have no

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idea what that sound came out of, but it sounded like a big,

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a really big guy, just like
and I've wondered ever since if maybe it

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was I don't know, it was
like, oh God, you gave us

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away or something like that. I
don't know. But so we left.

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We got spooked by the wooden knocks. We left, we kept coming back,

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kept wooden knocking, They kept wood
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whole bunch of wood knocking videos on
my YouTube. We'll be back with more

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Bigfoot Society after these words from our
sponsors. But the second siding I had

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was on December the tenth of twenty
fifteen, and me and another guy named

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Trevor had trekked back and there was
a really large tree that had fallen over,

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and he's, hey, do you
see that? And this is at

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a pretty good distance though, mind
you, and I'm like, what are

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you talking about? So he like
comes over and literally gets my face like

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right there. And there was something
behind this big tree and you could see

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what looked like the head and a
hump, and its arm was draped over

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the tree. And we watched as
this thing's arm just does this and goes

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over the tree and he just disers. And it was about probably fifty yards

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the way we saw this, and
that was about enough that we wanted that

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day, so we got out of
the woods. The third siding I had

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was on June the eighth of twenty
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everything. That's the one I think
we talked about a little bit before when

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00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:27.839
we were back and forth. That
one I was I had trekked way back

408
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:33.240
up into this area. I had
something approached me earlier that day at a

409
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.759
close range and spooked me to begin
with. And as I'm trekking through some

410
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:44.559
mountain Laurel, really thick mountain Laurel
I'm having to push it aside, take

411
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.279
a step, push it aside,
take a step. And as I'm doing

412
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.920
that, I pushed some aside,
and about maybe twenty feet from me,

413
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:59.799
there was a big root ball that
is at this angle over here, and

414
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:06.279
and immediately I see this hole that's
in the bottom like quarter of this root

415
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.400
ball. And it's June. This
is on June the eighth, So June's

416
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.200
when coyotes have pups. And so
I knew that, and they love to

417
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.839
make dens and stuff like that.
And I just because I say it's a

418
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.759
hole, because you know how like
a hole has depth when you look at

419
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:29.039
it, the darkness. That's what
this thing looks like. And as I'm

420
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.839
staring at this hole like figuring and
I'm about to get tore up by coyotes,

421
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:38.720
it moves and it's not a hole
at all, and it's like this

422
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:45.079
when it moves. The only way
I can describe the thing that it did

423
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.039
was if you've ever had a kid. I put a kid in time out

424
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.359
on a couch, how like a
kid will push themselves up against the couch

425
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:57.680
like they don't want to be there
and do this. That's what this thing

426
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:02.400
was doing. And I don't know
to this day why I couldn't see it

427
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.240
for what it was. I don't
know if it was like I've had.

428
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.759
Ron Moorhead actually told me at the
conference just a couple of weeks ago,

429
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.839
maybe you did know what you were
looking at, and your brain was just

430
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.920
like n uh. I don't know
what it was, but I did when

431
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:22.240
it moved into that position, it
gave itself away and I could see what

432
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:30.359
it was. And it was a
child, and it was a black haired,

433
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.240
dark skinned child. It was not
an ape. It did not look

434
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:42.599
like a gibbon or a chimpanzee.
It looked like a kid. And the

435
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.920
fact that it was looking like it
was trying to hide and afraid just elicited

436
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:52.200
something in me. I've got four
kids of my own, and so I

437
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.000
tear through this mountain Laurel. After
this, after I realized what I'm looking

438
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.200
at, drive all the way home. It's a forty minute drive to my

439
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.559
house from where where this area is. I get home, I basically have

440
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.759
convinced myself on the drive home that
I'm not going to tell anybody that I

441
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.039
even had this siding, because who's
going to believe I saw a little feral

442
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:13.320
kid. And as soon as I
walk in the door, my wife is,

443
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.880
honey, what's wrong. And I'm
like, what do you mean,

444
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.840
what's wrong? And she's I can
tell something's wrong. You look tense.

445
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.480
She could just tell automatically. And
so I took her into the side room

446
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:30.440
and we sat down and I started
telling her and I just broke down and

447
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.679
started crying. And I don't know. I'm not a I'm not a crime

448
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:43.079
top, but it was that's changed
me. My wife like literally told said

449
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:44.880
to me. She said, honey, what did you think was going to

450
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:50.639
happen if you kept doing this?
And I'm like, I thought that I

451
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.559
might see something peek out from behind
a tree at me something like that.

452
00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.119
I didn't think I was going to
see what's tantamount to a scared but that's

453
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.079
what I saw. So after that, I didn't go up there for about

454
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.199
eight days after that because it spooped
me so badly and it messed with me

455
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:13.119
too, man, Like I there
was a part of me that was literally

456
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:19.599
like I need to call someone,
like I need to someone needs to know

457
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.559
that there is a there's a hairy
kid out in the wood. That sounds

458
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:27.800
crazy, but that's how much it
affected me, Like I lost sleep over

459
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.119
this. So when I finally ended
up going back back up there, it

460
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:37.079
changed my entire approach. Like I
was going up there with this kind of

461
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:44.440
I'm looking for a big bipedal ape
and I'm not sure what it is that

462
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.960
we're looking for now, to be
honest, and still to this day,

463
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.599
I'm still trying to figure out what
you're looking for. It sounds like,

464
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.599
yeah, yeah, I imagine you
see something like that, and you can

465
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:05.920
easily these stories about how people have
what they think the creatures in their sights

466
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.480
and they're like, I couldn't pull
the trigger because it was just too real.

467
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:15.280
There was a human like quality to
what I was seeing and I couldn't

468
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:20.440
do it. And after hearing a
story like that, I totally get it.

469
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:25.159
That's wild. Yeah, and you're
saying all this within the same one

470
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:36.920
hundred and fifty roughly Wow, yes, WHOA And again i'd why. And

471
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.760
I had a researcher friend of mine, really well known wh I'm not going

472
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:45.000
to name drop him, but basically
he told me that he's they know you,

473
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.320
and I'm like, what do you
mean? And he's you've been running

474
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.920
those events there for years, for
years, they've seen you there. They

475
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.559
see that everyone listens to you because
you're the one directing events. They see

476
00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:00.280
that you're the one that everyone's coming
to. You're the one everyone's talking to

477
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.679
at some point at these events,
and that they and they know me.

478
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:13.639
And he was alluding that like they
were introducing themselves almost or letting me know.

479
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.679
That's that that that's really messed with
me with the juvenile too, is

480
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.760
that like a I got approached earlier
that day, like by something. They

481
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.639
got really close. I've got video
of that where you can actually hear it

482
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.840
walking through the woods towards me.
But I've questioned, like, why did

483
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:37.239
that thing even let me see it
like that? It could have scurried around

484
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:38.800
the edge of that root ball.
I would have never known it was there.

485
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.679
And he's they wanted you to see
it, like they almost like they

486
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:46.519
wanted you to know they had a
family up there. And that's the way

487
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:51.199
it's changed. It definitely has changed
me that regard, Like when I go

488
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.599
up there, it's now I'm dealing
with a family. I respect it like

489
00:37:54.639 --> 00:38:00.360
that. Now. I can't tell
you what they are, but I can

490
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:06.960
tell you they're they're they're enough lock
us that it's frankly it's disturbing. But

491
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.320
man, that just hearing that,
Yeah, it affects you. Randy.

492
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:20.280
Wow, I can't imagine going through
what you went through. Yeah, as

493
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.440
you said, you've got kids.
I have a kid as well, and

494
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:30.960
I think, yeah, that would
really make me approach the whole subject a

495
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:35.400
totally different way, totally different way. Yeah. Oh man, And you're

496
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.800
are still going to that area even
to this day. Oh yeah, yeah,

497
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:44.159
we still go up there. We
do. We leave them fruit sometimes

498
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:50.039
we've had we What's interesting with the
game warden in that area, there's an

499
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.039
area where they when one of the
trails near this area, they've actually shut

500
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:59.280
down the park has They don't even
they don't even let anybody go down the

501
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.320
park the trailer war And I asked
them all like, why did you just

502
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.159
abandon the trail, and they're like, we just got tired of going out

503
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.480
there having to chainsaw all the logs
up from the trees that were falling on

504
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:15.639
the trail. And that trail is
one of the trails we used to get

505
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:22.039
back to our area, and they've
just given up on it because they they

506
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.480
said that they basically chainsaw the logs
up very next day some about howker would

507
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.920
be like it. There's more trees
down, and they go out there and

508
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.239
the trees would be ten foot from
where the other trees were. Wow.

509
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.519
They're like, yeah, we don't
want any more humans going near our area,

510
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.280
so we're just gonna put trees all
over the place, over the trails.

511
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:45.480
That's crazy, man. Yeah,
Oh that game war and has seen

512
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.039
some man talking to you. Yeah, they know more than they let on

513
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:57.480
too. Oh totally so much.
Wow is man? That is wow?

514
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:04.280
Tennessee is just this story after story
man, of this stuff going on in

515
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.920
that state. For sure. It's
interesting what your wife said too. I've

516
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.239
heard that come up a few times, which is it's like, what do

517
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.800
you think what's gonna I didn't think
that's what was going to happen. I

518
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:24.320
didn't. Yeah, that's yeah.
Do you have any maybe you can't answer

519
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:30.760
this, but have you considered any
type of like long term field recorder you

520
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.400
mean, putty one out there,
yeah, to see if you can capture

521
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.519
audio over And we've done that before. Oh yeah, we've got we caught

522
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.639
audio of something approaching the thing forty
five minutes after we stick it out there.

523
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:49.400
Oh, Wow. Man, that's
that is wild. Thank you,

524
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.119
Thank you for sharing all that.
Man, I'm that's gonna take me a

525
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.679
while to process all of that.
I also wanted to chat with you a

526
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:05.360
bit about that. Was reading through
your messages and you had mentioned Werewolf Springs

527
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.559
and I've heard other people mention this
too, and so it's primarily a big

528
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:14.559
foot podcast, but other stuff is
starting. I'm starting to branch into other

529
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:19.199
things, like some dog ban things
and et cetera. And this is going

530
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.199
to be fun because I was looking
into Werewolf Springs a little bit and I

531
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.880
was like, Montgomery Bell State Park, why does that sound familiar? And

532
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:36.320
we finally get to connect two of
my favorite things, cryptids and a certain

533
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.679
nineteen eighties movie that is near and
dear to my heart from my childhood.

534
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.400
And maybe you get what I'm talking
about, but I'll tell you in a

535
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.119
bit. But can you share a
little bit about this what's going on with

536
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.840
Werewolf Springs. I saw that your
conference you were thinking about maybe taking people

537
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.719
out there to check it out.
But it sounds like it's got quite the

538
00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.679
history of some interesting things happening.
Oh yeah, does yeah, we were

539
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.719
actually going to take some people out
and the park put up a gate.

540
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.920
They didn't want a bunch of bigfoot
free cos going out there and messing with

541
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.239
the spring. It was pretty hilarious. Hill Bit Holler was going to go

542
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.159
out there and do it, do
a whole thing, and yeah, we

543
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.400
got denied. But the story of
Wearwell Spring goes back to the eighteen sixties,

544
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.960
and the whole premise of the story
is that there's two kind of two

545
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.679
stories. There's one where it's two
brothers. There's another where it's a man

546
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:37.840
in one of his workers for his
farm. But either way, they were

547
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.800
going to two brothers. One for
instance, they went to the cemetery Hall

548
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.639
what's called Hall Cemetery, and there's
a spring about a quarter mile from Hall

549
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:51.199
Cemetery called Hall's Spring. They walked
up to Hall Spring to get something to

550
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.360
drink before going back to the town, which at the time the whole area

551
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:59.800
was called Bluffs I'm sorry, was
called Burns Station. It's now just Burns

552
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.639
ten. But they went to go
with some water and as they were getting

553
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:08.000
water, according to the story,
one of them noticed basically this large hairy

554
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:13.519
man monster thing on the other side
of the spring staring at them in the

555
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.719
woods. And they both went running
and one of the brothers got caught,

556
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:22.199
captured and killed and the other brother
didn't. And in that story, that

557
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.119
brother made it back to Burns Station
told the people what had happened. And

558
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.440
there was actually documented stuff in a
newspaper from back in those days where they

559
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:37.000
took a posse out there to haul
Spring and they even staked a goat up

560
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.440
out there at Hall Spring trying to
capture whatever this thing was. And that

561
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.679
story has turned into basically that's what
that's the seed of the werewolf of Montgomery

562
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.719
Bells and Werewolf Springs. That's how
it gets its name. And that whole

563
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:58.119
area up there's got Whitehall is the
little town next to Burns and Whitehall has

564
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:02.719
the Whitehall Screamer, the Whitehall House
Hall Whistler. The whole area has like

565
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.239
names for a lot of the cryptids
in that area. Oh wow, so

566
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.679
there's a lot going on. Is
that the white Hall stuff? Is that

567
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:15.119
like a dog man or a bigfoot
type deal, or it could be a

568
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.320
mixture, or it could be both, honestly, but most of them.

569
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.400
I think that the community down there's
embraced the dog man thing the last couple

570
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:29.320
of years. So that's really where, especially with were Wolf Springs, the

571
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.000
park is really embracing that. So
I think that more and more over the

572
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.039
years as you you'll come and see
that that that whole anything in the Whitehall

573
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:43.199
area Montgomery Bell will be dog man
were wolf related. Okay, guy,

574
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.039
So where people can actually they can
go to this park and they have like

575
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.280
dog man stuff or they've got to
they have a When we were having the

576
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:53.920
call and they actually put on and
we didn't even know they had it.

577
00:44:54.480 --> 00:45:00.599
They on the screens there in the
park a lobby. They we were playing

578
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.880
the legend of were Wolf Springs.
We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after

579
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:13.360
these words from our sponsors, and
it's like a it was a little movie

580
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.199
that apparently the park made back like
in the nineties. Oh yeah, so

581
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.239
they were playing it for us and
along with the con there, it's pretty

582
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.519
nat that's awesome. Okay. So
here's I'll let you know. This is

583
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:32.000
my fun fact about Montgomery Bell.
So there's a store. There's a movie

584
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:36.599
that I love from the nineteen eighties
called Ernest Goes to Camp. Yeah,

585
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.320
Ernest Goes to Camp was filmed in
Montgomery Bell State Park. Because I've watched

586
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:44.039
YouTube videos about so the cabins are
all up that are in the movie,

587
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.599
and like you can go supposedly to
that park and you can see all the

588
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:52.000
cabins out are in the film.
And I'm an Ernest fan outside of big

589
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.960
I like Ernest stuff. So eventually, like I was, it was already

590
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.639
my bucket list, like I'm going
to go to the state park and see

591
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.559
where Ernest goes to the camp was
filmed. And then I find out like

592
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.679
it's a total cryptid hotspot. I'm
like, this is amazing. This is

593
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.239
the best news I've ever heard.
Yep, I've actually run events out of

594
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.639
that campsite. Really is it pretty
beautiful? It's a beautiful camp side.

595
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:19.639
It's beautiful. Yeah. Are they
earnest? Are they Earnest events? No,

596
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.760
they weren't artest events. Oh that's
too bad. I hear they have

597
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.079
an Earnest Day every year. Oh
yeah, they celebrate Ernest goes to camp

598
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.679
and they watch the film and like
Ernest goes to camp things, and my

599
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.239
listenership is slowly being like and I
don't like Ernest goes the camp, guys,

600
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.559
I love the camp. So you're
gonna have to deal with it.

601
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:45.119
But so you're super into two big
for and you're focusing on this one area.

602
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.360
Are there other areas of the state
that you've also been involved with your

603
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:55.280
researcher you're focusing just mainly on Van
Buren County, Oh, No, Warren

604
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.840
County, Van Buren County, Watt
County, Grundee County, Sequatchee. Most

605
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:07.760
of those counties we yeah run around
in. We found four other hotspots active

606
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:14.320
research areas in about a forty five
mile kind of area near where that the

607
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:20.440
one is with the campsite and the
area of the Cumberland Plateau is really my

608
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.679
main area did we research and investigate. There's an area called Highway eight.

609
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.719
People might Tennesseeans will know what it's
hair as Oh what is it called?

610
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.760
Okay? I mean I just forgot
its name. Hey, that's all right,

611
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:39.159
keep it safe, man, just
completely gone, That's all right.

612
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But Highway eight up on the Cumbland
Plateau. We've spoken to over a dozen

613
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:52.079
families in a in about a six
mile area that have all we were pretty

614
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.199
sure he's sharing the same Bigfoot.
And the reason that we think it's they're

615
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.000
sharing the same one is they've described
when they talked about seeing him. They've

616
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.800
described the same individual a couple of
the different There's been three houses where he's

617
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.159
window peaked. And what's wild is
the people have described that he's got the

618
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:14.639
same gray swath of hair on the
front of his head. Yeah. And

619
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.559
hearing these people talk about this stuff
completely, they have no idea about the

620
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:21.840
other people experiencing this stuff. And
then one of them is talking about,

621
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.199
yeah, you had a gentlemanly swath
of gray on his forehead, and we're

622
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.400
like, what do you mean gentlemanly? And he was like, you know

623
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:31.480
how you get a swath just right
there? It's pretty wild. Wow,

624
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:38.000
Well, that's that is wild.
Is there named Atticus? I love it?

625
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.599
People in the area, that's legit, man, I love that.

626
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.039
That's a great name. Have you
looked into, like how the that area

627
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:52.280
is set up? Do you think
there's anything about the the topography or the

628
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:58.039
climate to the area that I do
a lot of the houses that have actually

629
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:02.519
had had Atticus messing with them.
If you actually go off the if you

630
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:08.599
look at the top of the plateau, it's basically he's just hugging the very

631
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:14.000
top of the plateau. He's just
walking the plateau and all of these houses

632
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.559
where you've got these dips in the
plateau and the topography. He's going in

633
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.519
and hitting all these houses along just
the edges of this plateau and the way

634
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:29.039
the roads go cut across the area. There's about four or five different roads

635
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.199
that cut off the main highway of
Highway eight. And so what you have

636
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:35.519
is you have all these kind of
black islands of roads where these people on

637
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these roads. Some of these people
on the roads may know that stuff's going

638
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:43.440
on, but they're only talking to
their neighbors. And then a road down

639
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.199
they're having the exact same stuff go
on, but they don't know because they're

640
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.639
just talking. They're not talking to
their neighbors either. And it's hilarious.

641
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.239
Oh that's hilarious, but also freaky. Man. Yeah, you think about

642
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.920
it, like they could be experiencing
bigfoot stuff for a year and have no

643
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.920
idea their neighbors are being messed with. I guess it's just goes to show

644
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.079
you know who your neighbors are and
maybe talk to them a little bit.

645
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:13.719
Man. Oh dude, that's wild. We had two girls up there that

646
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:20.800
actually that saw one and broad daylight
laying on a boulder, said that it

647
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.719
was looking up at the sun.
Sun was down on it, so it

648
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.639
looked like a giant o rangutang almost, And when we were talking to them,

649
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:30.639
we're like, have you talked to
your neighbors? And they're like,

650
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.840
oh, our neighbors are old,
they don't ever go outside, they wouldn't

651
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.880
know about any of this stuff happening. And we had already talked to their

652
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:42.239
neighbors, and one of their neighbors
knew this stuff was going on. And

653
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.559
so it's just in rural communities.
If you're having big foot activity, talk

654
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:51.519
to your neighbor, you may be
surprised just how much you guys are sharing.

655
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:59.440
Absolutely, have you ever let's see, and I'm not being from Iowa,

656
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:05.039
I'm not like the best with Tennessee
geographies, Sorry about that, but

657
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:10.679
have you ever gone far into the
far eastern side of the state? And

658
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:17.199
yeah, okay, yeah, because
like I talked to some people and they're

659
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.559
like, it seems like the further
east you get in Tennessee, like there's

660
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.559
some kind of weird stuff that goes
on over there. Do you think there's

661
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.280
any truth to that or is it? You're like, it's all over the

662
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:35.119
place in Tennessee. There's an area
and he's really East Tennessee that I've been

663
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.679
to several times called Delamo, and
the largest bigfoot siding that I've ever had

664
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:45.000
reported in May happen there right next
to a Christmas tree farm. And dude

665
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.400
swears up and down that this thing
was twelve feet tall. The only reason

666
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.960
I would, I granted that he
could judge hot, was because for a

667
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.079
living, he was one of those
guys that goes out and works on poles,

668
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.159
electric lines and all that. And
he actually told me, and I

669
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.400
know how much twelve foot is because
electric poll blah blah blah is fifteen feet

670
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.719
from the ground to the blaw.
And I think that I really wonder if

671
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.559
they don't get bigger the farther east
you go. Stories that I've been told

672
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:21.519
Barry that I live in. We
have over fifteen thousand caves in just about

673
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.119
a four county region, So in
a way, I kind of wonder if

674
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:30.119
sometimes when people in this area report
them as being leaner, if that's because

675
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.960
of the like an adaptation actually to
the caves that we have. That seems

676
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.920
to be a recurring theme that has
been coming up in the last few years

677
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:45.960
is that maybe there's a correlation between
there's that graphic that keeps going around where

678
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:52.840
it's I think it's like they overlay
bigfoot sightings over like the cave systems in

679
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:58.239
the US. It's a really interesting
thing to think about. I don't know,

680
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.039
I could be Oh yeah, it's
definitely a lot of shelter. Man.

681
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.239
You are a total wealth of information, Randy. Have you ever gone

682
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:13.440
out of state to investigate any anywhere? Or is it primarily Tennessee? I

683
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.599
have. I've been out of state
to northwest, to Louisiana a couple of

684
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.599
times. That's the only place I've
actually went out of state to go look

685
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:27.639
for this stuff. Though. Okay, gotcha anything weird happened down in Louisiana.

686
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.280
I got some good vocalizations, gotcha, Man, I gotta get down

687
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.639
to Tennessee for sure. I just
got it. That'd be funny. Did

688
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.159
you get down here? Come to
Montgomery Belle Man, I'll meet you down

689
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.079
there. We can, dude.
I'll show you where Wolf Springs and we

690
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.639
can go check out Ernest goes to
the camp and wear Olf Springs. That's

691
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:52.719
the ultimate combination, Randy. This
has been a extremely fun chat and chatting

692
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.360
with you, and I'm sure you'll
have I'm sure there's going to be stuff

693
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.960
in the future as well. But
I know you're a guy that you keep

694
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:06.039
to your You're not really out there
a lot. But are there ways I'm

695
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.000
sure there's going to be people that
hear this episode, and I just got

696
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.719
a feeling they're going to be like, I gotta contact this dude. Are

697
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:19.599
there ways that people can contact you
if they've been having issue things happen in

698
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:23.719
the same areas that you were talking
about, the same counties, et cetera.

699
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.880
Sure, sure, they can get
hold of me on Facebook, they

700
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.239
can get hold in I can put
my I can share my email if I

701
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.119
don't know if I need to spell
it out, or cann a squatch at

702
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:44.119
Gmail, which is t E n
e A s qu A t c ch

703
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:49.199
at gmail dot com. Perfect.
Yeah, I'm more. I'm We've got

704
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.679
a team of six individuals in the
town that I live in that go out

705
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:58.239
and if we need to do field
investigations and all that are cool down.

706
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.280
And you have a YouTube channel as
well, people can follow I do,

707
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.920
but I don't know, I don't
have it off the hand. Okay,

708
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:09.639
well I'll put it in the link. It's Tennessee. Gotcha, and you

709
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:15.159
have videos and stuff from different different
times you've been out researching. So definitely

710
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:22.599
people want to subscribe and fallow to
that. But Randy, any closing thoughts

711
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:27.920
before we head out for the night. Oh, none I can think of,

712
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:32.800
Man, I appreciate you, appreciate
the opportunity. How can people lastly,

713
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:37.320
how can people keep up to date
with what's going on with the Tennessee

714
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.840
Wildman Conference. Oh, easiest way
to do that is just keep track of

715
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:49.360
Tennesseewildman dot org. That's our website. We'll be changing it up. We'll

716
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:53.320
have any kind of updates on there. Awesome. Oh Randy, such fun

717
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:58.760
chat. Thank you so much for
coming on tonight, and we'll definitely be

718
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:02.920
in touch in the future. A
man here at Bigfoot Society. Our goal

719
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:08.760
is to provide a platform for those
that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter

720
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:14.400
in a safe and respected environment.
But we need to hear your story.

721
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:20.000
If you've experienced something that you just
can't explain, please send me an email

722
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.920
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation.

723
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:30.320
I know a lot of you have
not shared your encounter at all, it's

724
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:36.679
been twenty years, and it's time
that you get this off your chest and

725
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.719
then you can get some well deserved
for rest, because I know you haven't

726
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:44.760
been sleeping. I understand what you're
going through, and I appreciate every one

727
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:45.480
of you listening