We All See It Around Stevens Creek

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Welcome to the Big for Society.
In this episode, I talked to Roman

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about his multiple encounters with Bigfoot over
the years in the Stevens Creek area of

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Edgefield County, South Carolina. If
you've experienced something similar to what Roman did,

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or have more information regarding Bigfoot or
other cryptids in the same area,

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please reach out to me immediately after
this episode. Remember, your encounter could

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be the key to unlocking this mystery
once and for all. Please reach out

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to me today using the email big
for Society at gmail dot com. All

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right, Big for Society got the
privilege of talking to Roman tonight. Roman

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reached out to me and wanted to
share some interesting things that he's encountered over

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the years. How's it going tonight, Rome, Well, pretty good,

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Jim, how you doing? Oh
man, it's been a wild and cold

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time in Iowa. But I just
I get through every day so I can

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talk to someone about Bigfoot. It's
been twenty twenty below down here to you.

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Yeah, we're at like twenty degrees
and that's bad enough for me.

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Oh man, Hey, I say, we get right on into it,

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and okay, we'll see where the
conversation leads. But I'm just going to

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let you go ahead and take the
floor Roman and share what you've experienced over

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the years. Okay. I grew
up in Hfield County, South Carolina,

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and uh I lived there my whole
life. The day I was born.

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I'm fifty one years old now,
I was born. Had I got two

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sisters. I was the youngest,
two older sisters, and he was raised.

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Yeah, we sat down at the
dinner table and ate dinner every night

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of his family went to church every
Sunday. I had. My dad was

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he was a hard worker. He
taught me growing up and to be right

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and work hard. And that's just
the way it was. I had the

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best mom and dad. Man,
you know, every wish for, but

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we grew up. I grew up
right on Stevens Creek. Is Steven's Creek.

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We think of a creek, you
normally you think of something small,

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but Steven's Creek's more of a reservoir. Is backs then it's a reservoir off

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the Savannah River. When I say
creek, if people run basketball punching boats

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in it. We've got boat houses. I placed my dad's places right there

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on Marktown Road and it goes all
the way back to Students Creek, and

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we got a road that goes down
a big hill, and when you get

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down the bottom of hill, we've
got like a big covered dot that's got

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a roof on it, and take
a left and go up the creek.

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And we got a couple of other
docks right there on the water and keep

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it pretty nice down there, and
a lot of people come there fishing.

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And so after my actual encounter,
my signing, started doing some research,

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listening to other people's stories, started
listening to your show and listen to other

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people tell their how their encounters right
down. And after that, I started

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thinking back all these things that had
happened to me when I was younger,

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and that's where I like to start
out at. Let's go back to when

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I was eighteen years old. Everything
out here is pretty you know, there's

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houses in far in between, a
fews across the street, maybe a couple

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like smaller sub divisions where every house
had acreage, but on our side of

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the road it's mainly bigger acreage.
So you have one person lives here,

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be twenty thirty acres. This person
lived here twenty thirty acres, So it's

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pretty spread out. And when you
get them to the creek. Across the

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creek was mostly farm land and stuff
like that. There still is that way

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on our side. You've got across
the streets. Now it's got a couple

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of sunda bysions and stuff like that. Anyway, I had met a girl

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over there and we started dating.
And by the time it's for about a

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couple of years, and she ended
up getting pregnant. I was seventeen when

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she got pregnant, and she ended
up we had the baby. It was

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tough being that young, little dad
and going I turned eighteen by my son,

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I guess he was about six seven
months old. I had been over

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there at night and then he was, I think, having with trouble sleeping,

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so I ended up falling asleep in
her bag while we were put him

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to sleep. I ended up waking
up like one o'clock in the morning,

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and I'm like dark. I got
to go home. And I had walked

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over there that night. So when
I left her house, you walk down

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this like long, big hill,
and he got a couple of houses on

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the right left, and there's a
shorter cut that you can take and take

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a right and it goes down this
big hill and it's got real dark,

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and it's got a couple of raves
in the woods, like from the eighteen

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hundred or so. I'm thinking,
man, I said, I ain't walking

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down that way, I said,
I rarely walk away to the Markdown Road

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and go the long way then walk
down that spooky ways. Anyway, I

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get down to mark Down Road and
I take a right and I'm walking up

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toward my parents' house and I hear
something off in the woods. And back

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then I was like an apic deer
hunter. I live for it. I

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love the deer hunting. And I'm
thinking, man, I bet that's a

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deer coming this way. So I
squat down in the road. It's kind

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of a day load, thinking the
deer might come up to the road and

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then walk on out. Cause I'm
sitting there. All of a sudden,

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you just I just heard this thing
started coming at me. Just rip.

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I mean your limbs ripping on trees, them snapping and breaking. And I

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stood up and I'm like, oh
my god, that's a bear. So

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I just took off running as fast
as I a run, and this thing

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came up. Instead of coming up
to the road, there's a like a

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ditch line. The power line that
runs down side of the road, and

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you know how these things are that
this thing was just nothing but like BlackBerry

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vines and briar bushes, and this
thing is just plowing through it. I'm

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running off. I'm running on the
highway up on the hill and it's down

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in that ditch is running just through
the briars. And I get all over

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my parents the highway, which is
as fast as I've ever runt of my

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life. And I stopped this first
second, and out here it's still a

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scroll of deep huffs. It's breathing. So I take back off and run

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up about one hundred after I get
my parents got some big brick interest skates.

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As soon as you get to the
dryway, there's about one hundred and

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more yards up to the house from
there. So I took back off again

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and opened the screen door. I
was about trying to shut myself in between

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screen door and the regular door and
beating on the door, and they finally

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can't let me in. I'm like, oh, my bear chasing the other

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road today anyway, So now that
they're knowing what I know now, I

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don't think that was a bear,
because listening to the stories that bear don't

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normally to go and just start,
you know, snatching limbs down off trees,

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and I don't think they do anyway. But as much records as that

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thing was making, now, I
could have turned back and look when I

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was running, but I figured if
I turned my head while I was trying

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to run, it was slowly down. I was trying to just make sure

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I had The only thing I want
to do is make sure I was running

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as fast as I could run.
But anyway we're going, we'll go forward

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on up to the up to the
actual siding anyway. Like I said that

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each property is divided twenty thirty acres, and then Nick's property every twenty thirty

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acres. And then you had my
neighbor to our right hand side that he

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lived about halfway up on the right, and then his sister lived all the

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way at the back. She had
a trailer out there on at the top

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of the hill. Right. But
the way it is, it's pretty flat,

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and you know tild you get back
to where the creek is, and

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once you get toward the about one
hundred yards for you get the creek,

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it's a big hill going that goes
downhill. And she lived right there at

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the top of the hill on the
right hand side, you know, on

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their property. And her name was
Betsy. She's a good old, just

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good lady, but a tough old
lady te man. And anyway, she

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don't come up to me. She's
cut up to me a couple of times

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and she said, Roman says there's
a there's a big foot down there.

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And I just blew it off.
I thought she was a little crazy on

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that one. And then a few
months later she came back to me,

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she says, Roman. She had
a three fifty seven baculum in her hands.

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She said, Roman, there's a
big foot down there. She said,

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I was sleeping last night and I
woke up. She said, it's

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something walked by my window. And
she said, my window is eight feet

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off the ground. She said,
I'm gonna go down there, and she

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says, things glooping in some cave
down there somewhere, And she said,

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I'm gonna go there and I'm gonna
shoot that thing. I said, basically,

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I said, ain't. I said, there ain't no big foot down

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there, you know. And I've
never, ever, not one single time,

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this whole time, with everything going
on, never thought bigfoot. I

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believe. I've always believed in bigfoot. It up. I didn't think there

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were any big foot around here.
I thought they were all way off somewhere

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in California somewhere. A lot of
that, and like the National Forest and

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the big the Big National Force and
stuff like that. But anyway, so

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it's going to the day I had
my sighting then on the creek. I

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spent a lot of I spent a
lot of time down there. It's like

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my salvation there. I just it's
so beautiful and quiet, and that's where

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I go to think and when I
got things in my mind. And also

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I have a little outcrop down there. It's got a lot of minerals and

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a little bit of copper and a
little bit of gold in it. So

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I get in there and I like
it there and dig and get my rocks,

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and there's gemstones. It's volcanic,
so it's I get find all kind

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of crystals and stuff in the rocks. So that's just fun for me getting

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there and just be in the woods. And there's times I've gone down there

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at one o'clock in the morning,
nothing about and this is like deep woods,

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something like this swampy down there,
and so even at one o'clock in

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the morning, I got in and
by myself. No problem. I wasn't

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wasn't scared. I always hear things
when things walking in and making these weird

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noises, but I never thought one
single time it was a big bit or

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anything like that. One afternoon,
I'm coming up. I've been there in

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my hole digging and starting to get
It's not dark yet, just starting to

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get dark. So I have my
buckets and I come on up the hill.

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And when I get about three quarters
away up the hill, I stopped

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and I'm taking like a little rest, cause them bucking the rocks are heavy,

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so I can only get so many
yards. And then i'd set it

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down and take a break and get
so many yards. But the last time

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I sat it down, I'm sitting
there for a second and I started smelling.

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It smelled like a skunk. I'm
sitting there looking around. Said,

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man, here, it's a skunk
right here. I said, man,

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it's got to be like right here. It spelt like it was like under

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my feet, that's how strong it
was. I'm looking around and by the

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time by this time I heard wow, you know, just then loud all

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are I didn't even have to look
yet. And the first thing that popped

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in my head was the skump smell
Betsy saying that put down there, and

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I don't know it's somewhere during my
lifetime because I lost fear. I just

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I don't have I just don't have
it. But I think when I heard

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the things that holler for the first
time, I actually just had a almost

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like a smile and spirkle smirk on
my face, meaning and thinking, you

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got it the kidney. Don't get
me wrong, it was I had the

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initial shot in the shock of it
because that it was because I'm I got

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something right here hollering if you ain't
supposed to. It's just I don't think

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you'd ever running anything like that in
your life. And you're sitting out of

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theirs behind this behind this holly three, real thick holly tree, and it's

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just I you can see it's just
waving its arms and it's and it's just

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sitting there the steady, just screaming
and screaming at me, and I'm thinking

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somebody is messing with me. You
know, the only thing of that,

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I don't really hang out with anybody. I'm real, you know, I

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don't. I have a few friends
you, I don't really hang out that

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many people, and most people that
I hang out with and know me,

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you know, I wouldn't do anything
thing like that unless everybody knows. Normally,

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I always got like a pistol on, you know, So that'd be

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dangerous to play a prank by that. But I'm still thinking possibility. It's

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sitting there yelling, and so I
figured I'm gonna say something funny or as

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stupid as this somebody messing with me. They're gonna laugh. So I said,

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big Foot, I said, I
ain't got a problem with you.

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I said, I know this twenty
two magnum. I got right here in

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my ways probably what even in phase
you? I said, just to let

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you know, I said, if
you come running at me, I said,

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I'm gonn shoot your writing nuts.
And they didn't laugh. Ain't nobody

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laughed. It just case. Matter
of fact. It's dropped down on all

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fours and it took all about forty
more yards up behind this cedar tree and

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that thing I think about when it
dropped down, it took off. I've

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never seen anything in my life as
fast as that thing was. I said

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no, and right then I knew
it was definitely not nobody playing with me.

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So he got over there behind a
cedar tree, and it's sitting there

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and it's I can see I can
never really get up like a good look

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at its face or any thing,
because it's always behind a bush. Like

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I could see it. I can
see it, but just never in detail

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at one time because of the bushes
that were staying behind. But they were

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sitting there and it started screaming and
yelling and like that. I look at

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her at it, and I point
toward my truck. I said, I'm

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going to my truck. My truck
was at the top of the hill and

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it's like a little circle that could
come in. It goes up, it's

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kind of circling. I had that
point in facing out. It's sitting there,

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and it's it's just steady yelling and
raising hell and waving his throwing his

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arms and all over during place and
shaking the tree that it's standing behind.

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So I got open my truck door
and I shut my door and I don't

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get it. I don't crank it
up, and I ain't got to leave

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me anything. And like I said, I wasn't scared. I just couldn't

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shock. And so I'm just sitting
there, just looking out of the window

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of just facing the hand on the
stairwell, just trying to take in what

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was going on. After I got
my truck get shut up. I didn't

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say, I didn't hear nothing else. So I'm sitting there. I sat

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there about ten minutes, and I
was thinking about it, and all of

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a sudden, the whole ass end
of my truck just just it felt like

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it dropped down about eighteen inches.
I just bounced back up, and I

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looked at in my arview mirror and
I didn't see anything. And I rolled

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my window down and looked around into
the back of the truck. I didn't

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say anything. But what got me
was I was my truck was a thirty

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It was a Chevrolet DURAMACS thirty five
hundred, and I know I already had

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one thousand pounds of rocks in it
back. So for something to be able

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to push my truck down eight ten
inches and that thing what I had to

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weigh one thousand pounds got me.
It's just three people could have jumped on

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the back of that truck not made
it squat down two inches. So after

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it did that. I cranked my
truck on up and went ahead and pulled

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on out of there. But after
that encounter, I got to thinking about

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all these years that everything, the
whole bunch of things, started making sense

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to me after that. If you
knew the crap I went through for three

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or four years when I lived in
a cabin right there on the at the

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top of the hill. And then
when my encounter happened, my house had

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already burned down. My house burned
down eight years ago. This My house

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had been burned down for a while
when my counter actual counter happened. But

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while I was living there, man, I'm talking about it had to be

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in these subsquatches that they about drove
me insane. But I'm thinking the whole

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time before my en calendar that those
were black people messing around in my woods.

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So I'd be out there, I'm
talking about, and I'd hear these

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owl calls. I'm thinking there's people
making owl caols, And I mean you

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can hear people like walking in and
me walking in the woods, you know,

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and they're doing these alcohols and stuff. And I'm thinking there's people are

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trespassing on my place. So so
night after night I'm out there, man,

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I'm by this time, I done
got, you know, pissed off,

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and I went I just wanted to
catch one of these people. All

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I want to do was just catch
one of them. So all I wanted

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to find out why the hell they
were on my property. So night after

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night I get up there might be
dressing in black and playing all kinds of

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stuff, and I'd hear them coming
up walking through the woods, and I'd

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get down there and lay down in
the leaves and being for hours and hours,

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and they always I could never figure
out while how they always knew where

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I was. I think, there's
no way they know I'm right here.

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There's no way. And they were
just like there was always there were always

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one step ahead of me. And
I mean for gears. I mean you

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wouldn't believe the time. I mean
it literally drove me crazy trying to catch

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these people. And one night I
had a friend of mine come over and

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he was gonna help me. I
said, man, we got to catch

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the boats. So late that night
I had an old flatbed truck out there

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at the top of the hill,
and him went laid under that truck and

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I ended up falling asleep like one
o'clock in the morning or so. He

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nudged me any points, and I
look up out of the tractor sitting on

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the trailer right there. And I
looked, and you can see the silhouette

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and people, like few people standing
there with a little coun't really see him

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and all because it was so dark
out there, and you couldn't see your

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handing from your Facebook loop toward the
skyline. You see them like standing there

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next to each other, moving around, walking around out of there. So

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I told my friend, I said, right on the count of three,

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and I had like a pump shotgun. It was like an eight shot to

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grip remigen, and I think he
had one of the other shotgun pump shotgun.

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And I didn't want I didn't want
to make keep that much noise.

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I just wanted to get out and
run up. I was a bust on

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them in the head to put it
the shotgun. I just wanted to get

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one of them. Soon we jump
out, he racks the shotgun and these

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things take off and at the time
I thought it was people and and I

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couldn't even believe how fast they took
off. And then there's run went around

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at loop. I was talking about
where I was part of that with My

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counter happened, and there's a goalie
on the other side of the driveway.

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It goes straight down like a four
foot drop, and then it drops on

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down to about twelve feet. And
we had had an ice storm like a

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year before that, so this goalie
was full of all these tree tops and

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limbs that had drunk off from the
ice storm. And man, they two

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cats just with took off just barely
down through the here like breaking limbs,

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running through the tree limbs, And
I'm thinking, man, we must have

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really scared the heck got them dudes. They practically killed herself getting away from

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us, stinking. But it was
always funny to me how fast and how

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how they were able to just run
like that in the picts, black dark

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and then run down and run through
them tree limbs like that. I thought

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the man they practiced killed herself getting
away from us. Now that I think

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about it, I probably wouldn't.
I'm just glad my buddy did it right

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there shot now, because if I
had ran up that thing hit it ahead,

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if I would have had kind of
a surprise. After my encounter happened,

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me and my girlfriend went in there
and we were camping there at the

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creek for a week. I think
we can sat there and spent some time

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my mom. My mom, she
passed away a year ago, and my

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mom, she was there choose everything
to me. I loved her morning anything

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in this world. And we were
real close. And I think that's really

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the only thing I ever I really
did fear was losing like somebody you love,

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or like my mother. After she
died, and I've had my dad,

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he's still around. He say,
he's eighty six years old, and

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I've had to face the fact that
that it's going to happen. While she

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was right before she died, we
was down there camping out out of the

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creek and they just enjoying the creek
and going very well, spending time my

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mom. And anyway, one night
we was walking back up the hill and

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you can hear something walking in the
woods out beside us, and it sounded

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like it was by p Doot,
but it was screaming. It sounded like

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it sounded just like a woman scream
like she was just a woman being this

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murder. That's what it sounds like. So I'm thinking, yeah, maybe

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my Mountain Lon. Even though I
had seen already seen the big Foot if

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I didn't do that, but it's
made screams like that before that. But

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thinking about it now, this thing
was breaking limbs and all kinds of stuff.

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Of cougar wouldn't do anything like that, And we don't really have that

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many cougar around here, but cougar
are pretty stealthy animals. I believe they

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wouldn't be just breaking limbs and walking
that loud in the woods. But it

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followed us all the way up the
hill, and then after you get the

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top of the hill, go up
a little bit further and my uncle he

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Levet was right in the middle and
we got a guard. He's got his

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big garden, and across from that
we got another big garden right there playing

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every year. And it always stayed
back on the tree line and swore you

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couldn't see it and sit there just
screaming bloody murder. And hell got in

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the house and went to bed,
and all night that things walked around and

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around the house and sit there screaming
like that half the night. And this

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went on for a couple of weeks
to the point where you know, we

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actually put staying at the creet.
We went there and started staying at my

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mother's house. And my mama come
waiting me up in the middle of the

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night into that Roman says that that
things, that cougar, cat or wherever

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that thing is. She says,
out there in the front yard under my

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windows, screaming. And I got
up, and I think she's out there

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just raising hell. And I went, I was looking get the flashlight,

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and I looked, but it would
always be just right inside the trees.

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You never I can never see it. So I went and backed up.

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We got a bunch of security cameras, so I backed up scurity cameras,

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and I'm looking for maybe a cat
or something there. But at the time,

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but I could I remember a couple
There were a couple of I think

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places on the table you can see
like a big like a dark shadow or

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something back behind the tree. But
I was thinking it sounded like more like

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a cougar because I didn't, like
I said, after listening like your show

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and listening to other people's subscriptions talking
about it sounds like a woman screaming.

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Now I realized I was probably that
the big foot there see and of course

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noses being walking around and probably had
to be that subsquatch. But after my

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mom passed, I quit going down
there for a little bit. Here in

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the last couple of months, I
started going back down to the creek,

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back to the hall, and I
started digging again about two months ago.

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It's hard for me to get down
there for a while and even get at

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my mom's house and even see my
dad, you know, just because the

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memories. But actually I think to
steal down there because the last couple of

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times I've been in they're digging.
About time it starts getting dark, you

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start hearing the alcohols, and they
start going off and and you can get

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them different. I used to.
I used to turkey hunt with Jackie Blesso.

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He was the full time world champion
turkey caller, and one of the

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things you do in a turkey calling
contest is an owl. Caol, but

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owls like they're real girth below girth
the that's what they sound like. I'm

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thinking, even when I was out
here in the woods trying to teach these

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people off, like, man,
that's the worst alcohol I've ever heard them,

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big buss. But I just think
I am, like, absolutely insane.

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They were probably selling tickets to go
watch me out there, crawling around

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out there like an idiot. That's
what I feel like now that I know

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what I know. You know,
but that's most of it. Got anything

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you want to ask me about that? Roman? Definitely, I was just

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letting you go. Man. That's
some incredible things that you have experienced over

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the years. You shared a lot
of really personal things, and I want

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to thank you for being open enough
to share some really personal things. Sides

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the Bigfoot interactions. I was thinking
about the owl calls. So it sounds

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like what tipped you off is that
the owl cal itself was just so ridiculous

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sounding, not that it was like, yeah, really loud, Yeah you

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could tell, yeah, yeah,
real bad. Definitely went out. I

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was always thought as a person,
I thought there were people on my place

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doing these alcohols and wouldn't let them. They wear each other and work,

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I can never catch them. But
now I know that it was probably not

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a uh, they probably weren't people. Looking back, now I can one

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thing. I'm pretty good in the
woods. I can walk. You're very

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quiet. I used to I used
to hunt. I used to hunt.

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Was stalky, knob bet stop and
I can figure out by the likes of

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me, I can never see you. It was making all these walking through

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the woods, making all these calls. Like I said, now, it's

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probably because it wouldn't people. So
I feel like I feel like I'm a

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idiot now and knowing what I know
now after my counter and knowing that they

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do alcohols and stuff like that.
Oh, absolutely, hindsight is twenty twenty

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for sure. What would you say
is the most recent interaction or something that

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you would attribute to Bigfoot? What's
the most recent things I would say,

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I would say about two weeks ago
when I got down I was down there

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digging, and I'm sitting there.
When I'm in my hole, I'm like,

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I have a hammer and a chisel
because you know, it's an outcross,

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a rock outcrop, and I'm sitting
their hammer and chiseling away. And

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then I start by the time it
starts getting dark and you start hearing these

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alcohols. And there's a where our
place is. There's an island that's right

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across from our place, and the
creek goes on both sides of it.

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And this island is probably about the
size of about one and a half football

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fields, and it's got just huge
trees and just real thick even during the

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wintertime, it's thick. You can't
even see in there, and that's where

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a lot of some of the calls
are coming from. Oh yeah, I

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got monocolars and I was looking trying
to look through there a couple and I

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saw a couple of things in there
when I was looking through my monoculars.

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That kind of leads me to think, that's it's the perfect place. Nobody

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ever goes on his island. Nobody
ever goes on his own What kind of

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things did you notice through the binocular
I was looking through my monoculars, and

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the first thing, one thing I
always one thing one of my hobbies was

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always is like looking to just see
how far I can, like look through

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into the woods. You can sit
there and when you focus in on with

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your monoculars, you want to find
a gap in the trees, and then

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you want to try to just take
your mind away from everything else around it.

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You want to try to focus on
that one spot going through into thiss

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You know what I'm talking about,
because in order to focus in on behind

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it, you had to get out
of focus with the main feature to be

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able to look deeper and deeper.
But I saw something. It looked like

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like maybe a head sticking out from
behind a tree, but I said,

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I could just be a limb or
bush sticking out side of the tree also,

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And so I sit there and I
just sit there and watch it and

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watch it. And then it moves. She's seen it go in toward the

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tree. That's huh. So that's
one thing I looked for. And then

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after it moved, I started looking
down. I went over to the next

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tree, and then I saw it
at the next tree right beside it,

408
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:14.160
okay, And then I sat there
and watched it for a while, and

409
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.160
then it didn't move, and I
turned and looked to the right, and

410
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.440
then I swung back just to see
if it would move. I looked away,

411
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:22.759
and then when I had to look
back at it, he wasn't there

412
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.240
anymore. And then I looked down
and I saw it down toward the bottom,

413
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.960
lower at the bottom in the tree. So there was definitely some movement

414
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.039
going on in there. I can't
say, yeah, it was a soft

415
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:38.640
squats, but I think it is
very interesting. You mentioned that Betsy is

416
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:44.000
Betsy's still alive. Yeah, she's
still alive. She moved after that,

417
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.039
Yes, she moved, and she
was down there all the time. She

418
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.680
did, and then she was for
her to come to me and just tell

419
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.480
me something like that. She seemed
pretty rattled about it. She was pretty

420
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.559
upset about it. Betsy's got stories, yeah, no question, Yeah,

421
00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.559
I bet she does. I bet
she does. I can get older.

422
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.720
Matter of fact, I had talked
to her sister in law, eight sister

423
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.759
in law the other day, and
she had give me Bets's number, because

424
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:08.720
I've never talked to bits after I
had to run in with it, so

425
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.680
I wanted to call and tell her, you know what, I ran in

426
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.119
that thing to hell. So I've
been really meaning the I just I worked

427
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.000
so much. I work all the
time, like six seven days a week.

428
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.960
Feel free to pass on my info
if you ever get to talk to

429
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.000
her. I would love yeah,
will I like. I love to know

430
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.480
a little bit more of myself now. I think if I tell her that

431
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.200
she's probably she'd probably opened up a
little bit more after I kill her.

432
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:33.559
I had a she sing it.
You know, if people are on a

433
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.240
I didn't tell too many people about
this first thing. Might I walked up

434
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.200
my dad's house and I wouldn't like
I said, I lost my fear fator

435
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.440
a long time again. You know, in order for me to be afraid

436
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:47.200
of something, you have to like, I don't fear death. I know

437
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.680
what's going to happen, and when's
your time? Is your time? So

438
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.200
and I had a really bad break, like years and years ago. I

439
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.200
was in my brand new f two
fifty. I was going up Mark Karl.

440
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:00.880
I had been mobigging my jeep.
I said, doing it about eighty

441
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.920
five my brour and I was my
girlfriend at the time. I was talking

442
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.599
to Ernie couldoose bad at he just
kept him hanging up on me. So

443
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.640
I sent her message my phone and
I went off Soda Road and I hit

444
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.000
a concrete covert. H head on
the concrete covert, I went in every

445
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.279
end over one hundred and twenty five
yards down in this inbatement. Dude,

446
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.599
I hit eight trees. The truck
was I mean nothing left up the truck.

447
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.160
The brief is so flat, the
stem and smashed down to the up

448
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.480
seat, I mean, phone,
everything in that truck was just being destroyed.

449
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.000
And I was standing there on the
hood that truck when it stopped without

450
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.839
a scratch on me and thinking,
what the hell has happening? Wow,

451
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.279
you're lucky in the record driver.
Next day he was. He was on

452
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.119
his hands and knees and my shirt, going, you got some kind of

453
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.480
purpose, you got some kind of
purpose, and said I've been driving a

454
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.279
record preacher over for twenty years.
Said your truck's talked too much of the

455
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.680
story vicuies I've ever seen in my
life, and said you ain't got to

456
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.759
join you. I mean, it
was definitely some of divine intervention. Yeah.

457
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.680
I shouldn't even be alive. I
should have hamburged me. But something,

458
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.400
man, I don't pursue whatever reason, it saved my life. That's

459
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.839
wild. Roman people were bringing me. I had people bringing me parts of

460
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.079
my truck, had me autographed.
Oh yeah, man, when you autographed

461
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.240
this for me? I found this
tennis ball in ATURECT, had me a

462
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.079
silent MS ball, any part of
my truck they could find laning in the

463
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.160
GG center there. That is so
weird. Yeah, that's crazy. Wow.

464
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.720
Makes you think about each day for
sure, Yeah, definitely. But

465
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.799
that just made me realize that when
it's your time, it's your time,

466
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.400
and right in with my time.
So absolutely my I was coming out of

467
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.279
hill and big Foot when I run
around and killed me. But it would

468
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.519
have been my time I went out
with my boot song. That's there.

469
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.200
That's exactly right the area you were
talking about where you dig for rocks.

470
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.319
Do you guys have granite in that
area? Yeah, we have a whole

471
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:53.119
lot of granite. Really, Yeah, a lot of granite, a lot

472
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.440
of corks. See, there's several
gold mines up the road. You got

473
00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.839
the dorm mine you know, which
was in my Hormet in eighteen hundred is

474
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.160
produced pretty good bit of gold,
and I think there's a couple of other

475
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.279
mines around there, and that outcrop
I got. I was happened to just

476
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.000
be looking into Goalie one day and
I've seen a rock formation opening in Clayland.

477
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.799
I started digging, and man,
it was just like orange and green

478
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.359
and blue and just every colors of
the rainbow and this rock. There's a

479
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:26.799
few album I've talked to I don't
even think on record where they've mentioned they

480
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:33.480
have hypothesis that massive amount of granite
could be related to Bigfoot type things.

481
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.519
And I think it might even come
up in some Missing four one one stuff

482
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.839
too. But I just wanted to
ask you about that. That's very interesting

483
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.319
to tell you. I have.
Yeah, there's a granted is one of

484
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.359
the main rocks we have here.
We drew your whales and stuff. I

485
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.319
heard you have to drift the granite
order. But I tell you what I

486
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.000
placed that they're on the creek.
This guy Indian. There's Indian graves.

487
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.799
And let me tell you, I've
had some seriousbody was gonn run into a

488
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.680
big foot. It was gonna be
me, because I've had some serious encounters

489
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.359
with some spirits. And when one
time me and my wife, we had

490
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.319
like a spirit in our house and
she was they clawed her, It clawed

491
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:12.720
her all up right there in front
of my us. When one night,

492
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.759
really, oh dear, I said, there was washed and I was trying

493
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.240
to grab her and hold her and
protect her, and from it was there's

494
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.359
claud all across her back. Everything. I stuck it and he believed it.

495
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.240
But we had a guy who stayed
there in our place that helped my

496
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.799
dad, and he stayed in the
camper in the creek. His name was

497
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.960
David, and my dad he owns
a bunch of properties all over the place

498
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:38.599
and has rental properties. So he
helped my dad. It was like his

499
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.160
handiman. And he stayed on the
camper and the dad provided him at a

500
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.960
place to stay down there, and
he liked to drink a lot, and

501
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.359
one night he drank a little too
much, and I guess he had they've

502
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.079
fallen in the creek and drowned in
the creek. And anyway, years later,

503
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:56.799
me and my girl, I was
taking that in time. We were

504
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.480
upstairs. I had a big slide
and stoor going out onto a balcony here

505
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.119
out there at my house. And
I looked up the glass and I said,

506
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.359
man, there's a David. I
said, he's standing there something something

507
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.480
like. I could see him and
some other guy in a long beard.

508
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.640
He was real white face when David
the skin was green. And she said

509
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:17.960
yeah, she said, he's waving
at you right now. And by the

510
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:19.599
time she said that, he was
throwing his hand up waving at me.

511
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.359
I said, d you can see
you too, and said yeah, but

512
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:27.599
yeah, today he's been dead for
fifteen years and he's sitting there waving at

513
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.720
me. She saw it, you
know, she waving at you. I

514
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.480
used to see ghosts in there,
all kind of spirits all the time down

515
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.839
there. And one night, hell
it was it's been this has been bout

516
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:42.160
eight years ago. We was out
there and and man, there was like

517
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.920
my dogs were like chasing something all
around in the woods. Whatever it was

518
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.559
like haul on blok because my dogs
it was just playing with my dogs.

519
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:55.440
And we looked up and this big
UFO came up, was like real bright,

520
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.920
just elongated and just it's just one
solid, this bright bright light came

521
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:04.119
easing over the trees. And then
another one came flying up right real fast

522
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.240
behind it. Right when he got
to it, it stopped, and then

523
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:08.920
both of them just eased on real
slow, one right behind the other.

524
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.599
That was like creepy. And then
and then at the same time my dog

525
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.200
was just three of them are just
just being a run, racking through the

526
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:21.160
woods, just chasing something that they
can't catch. And that was a that

527
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.160
was a very high night r there. I've seen UFOs and broad daylight I

528
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.079
had that. I've had them fly
clean, I mean clean over my head.

529
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.000
At least one of them was like
a triangle chase broad daylight. It

530
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:37.160
was maybe three hundred feet above the
top of the trees. And then matter

531
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:38.680
of fact, we were coming in
from town and was in the truck and

532
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.480
you can see it looked like something
dropped out us like it was like a

533
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.720
portal over close to where my parents'
house was, and we've seen it fly

534
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.519
back in around. So I said, let's turn up here where the fields

535
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.039
are and go here to the fields
and see if you can see anything but

536
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.039
see ice. We turned up the
road, we saw it coming over the

537
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.119
top of the trees, and we
just stopped the truck right there in the

538
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.519
middle of the road and got out, and it flew right over our head.

539
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.920
It was I could tell you every
tail on it. You can see

540
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.559
everything on it. Flew right over
head, didn't make a noise or nothing,

541
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.880
and she had her phone trying to
record it. Sider reporter would work.

542
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:13.319
Yeah, that was awesome siding right
there. You said that you're in

543
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.079
pretty close proximity to some burial grounds. Yeah, looks at the Indian barrel

544
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.240
on my dad's place. And we
got I got an area head collection,

545
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.200
I got both. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got all kind of

546
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.720
stuff, you name it. I
got an area. It was how close

547
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:37.359
to the houses are the burial grounds? Oh, I'd say within maybe eighty

548
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.119
hundred yards? Oh my goodness to
wow. Yeah. Yeah, so there

549
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.400
used to be the main campus right
there our place. If you look at

550
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:51.839
them out where this would have been
seven, eight thousand years ago these Indians.

551
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.079
So there was a there was like
an encampment type deal. Was that

552
00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.640
there was like a main like a
village type deal you're saying, or yeah,

553
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.240
up on the flag and then he
had to creak down like city camps

554
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.480
would have been up there on the
top of the hills. Sure, the

555
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.760
niest ever would put their camp on
the slopes, always on the plants.

556
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:15.119
That's where we find most of artifacts. So you're definitely in the thickest something

557
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.960
there. You've got so much stuff
going on in that one area that you're

558
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.960
at. And I'm not surprised after
finding out that, I wanted to talk

559
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:30.760
a little bit about so that the
night when you saw the creature and you

560
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.679
yelled at it and then it ran
away on all fours. Yeah, it

561
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.159
didn't run all the way. It
just went up about thirty yards and I

562
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:42.199
got behind a nother tree started yelling
some more. Yeah, So the can

563
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.000
you describe like what you noticed from
the way it was yelling. Was it

564
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.880
just a sound or language or it
was it was more as yelling and it

565
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:53.960
wouldn't and it wasn't all focius like
a lot of people will say. It

566
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.159
was it's just it's just raising like
it was pissed off. I got to

567
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.000
think so maybe it got sprayed by
the skunk. The smell, I mean

568
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.800
it smelled, that's the way it
was acted like. It was just like

569
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.800
frustrated today because it smelled just like
a skunk. I'm talking about there Always

570
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.559
people always try to describe how would
it smelled, how the odor was,

571
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.079
But this thing smelled if you've ever
rode by a dead skunk on I ran

572
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:22.199
on the highway, no different than
that. It was identical to the smell

573
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:27.239
a dead skunk on the road.
Did you notice or can you remember any

574
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.599
weird details about what you saw?
Yeah? It was. It was like

575
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.039
a real It was like a chocolate
little like a more like a chocolate color

576
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.559
color of a dark real dark brown
black, maybe mixed a little bit,

577
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.719
or could have had mud on it
on it, but it was real dark.

578
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.360
And it had definitely had some long
arms, because that's one thing you

579
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:52.800
could see just flapping and flying away. And I can never really tell I

580
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.679
can never really get a good height
guess on it because the way that the

581
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.480
terrain is, all the hills,
you got gilts and all kinds of stuff

582
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.679
to say where I was standing in
the road coming up, so you could

583
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:06.320
got like a little three foot bank
right there, and then it was like

584
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.559
over the hump and behind the holly
tree right there. Going it slopes back

585
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.440
down to the right, you can
get over that little hump and it's behind

586
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.920
that big holly tree right there.
And then after I said that to it,

587
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.880
I didn't know if it understood me
or what about me shoot out,

588
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.199
but it's getting a little bit more
distance between It ran over behind that Caesar

589
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.400
tree then, but it was sitting
there and just grab had grabbed a hold

590
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.960
of it, you know, and
it was like I guess you stepping over

591
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.199
both hands and grabbed a hold of
the lean on each side. It was

592
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.280
just sitting there, just shaking the
tree. And when it went to other

593
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:40.800
direction and it started, really it
definitely took any sphere and in the way

594
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.760
it was yelling too, and it
wasn't like real sphere. I guess that

595
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.960
this could have been like a maybe
a juvenile maybe because it didn't have the

596
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.239
it didn't sound like it had the
lung capacity like some of these some of

597
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.559
the other descriptions. Some of the
other people say that it sounded like it

598
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.840
didn't have that. I didn't feel
it. I think one of I would

599
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.360
have to say. The part that
really got me was that it ended up

600
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.920
following you up to your truck.
Oh yeah, now that's that's surprised.

601
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.960
That really did surprise me. And
it had to be that creature because there's

602
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.480
nothing else I could have, you
know, thirty five hundred dermats. It's

603
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.760
got pretty stout suspension on it,
absolutely, and like I already already had

604
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.239
a thousand pounds of rocks in the
back of it, so it was already

605
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.159
compressed pretty good before it jumped on
the back of it. For to drop

606
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.119
down that far, that's what really
got my attention right there. I said,

607
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.519
man, that thing is bigger than
I thought it was, so they

608
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.639
had they had to be heavy though. Oh yeah, I don't think it

609
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.119
jumped on the truck. I think
it because they went down so fast and

610
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.880
came back up so quick. If
it would have jumped on it, it

611
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.320
would have been went down and then
past it came out. I think what

612
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:46.960
it did it we came up and
just put his hands on the back of

613
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.719
my tailgate because I had a tool
body on a body on the back of

614
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.960
it. Okay, so it's pretty
stout. Tailgate didn't know it's hard,

615
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.519
still solid still, so I think
he just put his hands on the back

616
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.880
of the gate and just shoved down
on it. And that's what it felt

617
00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:05.440
like me thinking over the years when
it sounds like there's been many times when

618
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.639
you've heard things in the woods.
Have there ever been times where there was

619
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:14.280
a sound you heard and it just
it confused you and you were like,

620
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:20.039
I, this sound shouldn't be here
right now. Yeah, many times we'd

621
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.480
be out there and I heard this
thing one night making this real weird kind

622
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.039
of I don't even know if I
can start and describe it. It was

623
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:31.400
a I'm like, what in the
world is that? And it would always

624
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.159
do that. It would be there
in that ditch down there, making that

625
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.960
noise. When it was it real
loud, but it was I've never heard

626
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.400
anything making no noise sound like that. I love that there, and I

627
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.199
sat a countless night. I loved
to sit outside at night and just listened

628
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:52.679
up the creakings and the sounds of
the nature. Absolutely, and so my

629
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.239
whole life has been sitting outside listening. Well, I hear noises like that

630
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.599
I've never heard before. But at
the time, I was thinking bigfoot.

631
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.840
Yeah exactly. When once you get
aware that could be an issue in your

632
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:08.199
area, your outlook kind of changes. Have there ever been any sightings of

633
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:14.119
I don't know if you've ever heard
of dog man before, like a creature

634
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.880
that kind of has a canine look
to it and it's on two legs.

635
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.679
No. I knew that they probably
exist, but I had never seen one

636
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.719
of those. By the stories I've
heard, I hope I don't. Well,

637
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:30.039
that's I'm gonna I was going to
say, count yourself lucky that they're

638
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.360
not in the picture that you know
of for sure. That's good. Yeah,

639
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:35.960
that I know of. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Back then,

640
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.800
I was always packing some serious but
guns. I always had to do three

641
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.599
guns on me, big shotguns.
My wife. I had three hundred win

642
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.880
mag I'd always keep on me when
I was down there. That's a that's

643
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.800
an elephant rifle there. That's a
big gun. I killed my first year

644
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.280
with that gun when I was like
eleven years old. And that's that's bigger

645
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.000
than a little bit bigger than his
mag. And I always tell you to

646
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.239
say, I mean I brought I
was there with guns. Was nothing for

647
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.599
me when I was like ten or
eleven years old. That's how much time

648
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.440
to change with kids today, and
back when I was kids, I could

649
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.559
walk out side with the thirty eight
Sundays when I was ten eleven years old.

650
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.760
Tell my parents I was target practice
and they didn't think nothing about it.

651
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.199
These days, man, the kid
walks out with ten year old walks

652
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:16.000
out at the beginning, better tackle
us, I ask you. Yeah,

653
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.920
it's a little bit different. Unfortunately, I'm guessing what was that back in

654
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.159
the probably eighties or nineties or Yeah, I was born in seventy two,

655
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:28.159
so that'd been about early eighties.
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's

656
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.000
a whole different time for sure.
Oh yeah, definitely. Roman, you

657
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.480
got some weird stuff going on in
your area, man, and I don't

658
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.000
think it's gonna I don't think it's
letting out either, to be honest.

659
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.639
No, I tell you what I
thought to some other people too, and

660
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.760
they said they got some stuff going
on in replace too. They owned a

661
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.960
lot of several hundred acres and they
said they failed some little tps and stuff

662
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.039
like that over the place. Really, and there's a lot, there's a

663
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.360
whole lot of still, there's a
lot of National Forest and the like bike

664
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.800
they turned it and turned them into
in the bike trails now, so it

665
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.480
used to be like game management hunting. Now they're like bicycle trails through the

666
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.679
woods and it's back behind where we're
on our side. Man, it's still

667
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:14.639
nothing. But people they own hundreds
and hundreds of acres of land are not

668
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:15.880
selling it. They don't want it
to be developed. And I like it

669
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.800
that way, yeah myself as well. It's we got to we can't lose

670
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.039
all the land just it doesn't right, that's actually nice. I was going

671
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:28.559
to ask you, is have you
talked to your neighbors? And it sounds

672
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.519
like you're starting to talk to him, which is good. Yeah, Now

673
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:36.079
the ones that we're see, I
didn't really get along with her brother,

674
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.519
which is Tony. He used to
one to he died here if just a

675
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:43.400
few months ago, matter of fact. And his son, his son now

676
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.960
he's got a camper down there.
He just begin my camper. He went

677
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.800
in the last six by six months
ago and he's been standing there a little

678
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:51.239
bit. I asked him about this. You be hearing you see happen?

679
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.000
He's up and hearing some weird stuff
down there. I say, hey,

680
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.800
man, that's a that's a big
foot man. Yeah, that's not That

681
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.480
doesn't sound like a good time,
But you got to do what you gotta

682
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:05.719
do. Feel free to if you're
ever talking to anyone. I always feel

683
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.400
free to pass on my information.
I always love talking to people. But

684
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:12.960
Roman, I'm so glad that you
reached out to me. This has been

685
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:17.760
an incredible conversation and I'm just blown
away by your area. It's been a

686
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.800
it's been a fun shot. Yeah, thanks for having me. I enjoy

687
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:23.440
your show. Man, as I
say, that's what made me a sad.

688
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.400
Come on out and talk about it. Oh, that's awesome. I

689
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.880
love that. My dad told me
said we didn't quit smoking that stuff.

690
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.079
I said, Man, I don't
smoke an you think dad stuff. Think

691
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.840
I'm crazy as well. It's funny. I'll let you go so I don't

692
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.639
keep you all night. But dude, keep looking over your shoulder. But

693
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.519
it sounds like you've got under the
control. Yeah, I'm gonna say I

694
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.440
find out something. I'll beat you
back and listen. You know what's going

695
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.960
on. Fantastic, good talking to
you. Roman. All right, Dema,

696
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.960
you have a great night, sir. I just wanted to take a

697
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.119
few minutes to say thank you to
Roman for coming on the show, and

698
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:07.519
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699
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700
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701
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702
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703
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704
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Something I would love to hear and
I've never asked for this before,

705
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:39.400
but if you've ever randomly met another
person and you found out that you both

706
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.159
listened to the Bigfoot Society, I
would love to hear about that. It

707
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.159
just sounds like a really funny scenario. I have heard of that happening a

708
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.519
few times, but I would love
to hear your story as well, so

709
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.519
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710
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711
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712
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