We didn't have enough firepower until the tanks came! (A Collection of Accounts)

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1:25 Okay, this is the thing, all right. I can't tell you the location, yes, sir, I can't tell you the name of the base that we was behind, but I can tell you the encounter. Okay we I was Army Special Forces. I will tell you that. We were at a proving ground and we were testing out thermals, night vision and fleers when they first came out. Behind this installation, there is a T shaped mountain range that is part of the training ground. Every one mile in increments from the back of the base out into the training ground, there's a mountain side on the left, there's a mountain side on the right. There's a valley that goes through the middle of it. And when you get out about eleven miles out, you run into another mountain range that.

2:28 Goes east to west. So it's a T shaped training area of that's behind the base. At each intersection that you come to at one mile increments, there are four posts that are set up on each corner. There is a light that is a solar panel light on each post. When you get out to the. Eleven mile marker, you always do training and everything left to right, east to west through that area. And then when you're leaving there where you d where you drop all your weapons, clear your magazines, everything like that, you know the training's over.

3:14 It's an eleven mile. Setting, each increment of one mile to where you'll get to the marker post. Okay, so we had already cleared all our weapons and everything like that. They had took us in about six miles, so we were at the six mile post all right. They dropped us off to do the last bit of the training with these new thermal sites and everything like that. Well, as soon as we got dropped off and we left that intersection and started going in toward the base, we noticed that there were three I can't say people, I can't say creature.

4:00 I can just tell you there was three things that was on the mountain side beside us where we could see them in the flair and we could see them in the thermal, but we couldn't see them in the night vision. There wasn't enough light. As we was moving from that intersection to the next intersection. They were traversing the mountain side on an angle, coming down toward us to where they were going to intercept us within the next mile to two miles before you get to the next setting. So as we keep going down, they keep going down at the angle.

4:53 It's scared. Now. This is a Special Forces team of seven. There's seven of us and we're basically doing the last you know, six miles into the back of the base. We got to the next marker where the lights were, and they had went past that. We were sitting there and looking at them and we're We're like, okay, we're gonna we're They're keeping on moving, so we're just gonna keep on moving. So we were moving on down to the next intersection. They started coming down closer and closer toward us. As we got to the next intersection, before we got into the edge of the light and they were going across the dark side of the far side of the intersection.

5:50 We was on one side of it and they was going across the other side. We went back out the next day where they crossed that and I took a tape measure and I measured the light post on all four corners, all of them were eight foot exactly. We had recorded thermal, recorded flear. And night vision at that point. That was all recorded to where as they walked across the dark side of that intersection, their heads were above the lights.

6:37 We stopped. We were so scared when I mean just the feeling that comes over you that the just. I mean, to be terrified that much. We literally locked and loaded and we stayed at that intersection. I would not go no further because as they had moved across the valley floor, but they were still just on the other side. Of the road where we would have been walking. Byn almost like they didn't almost like they didn't know that we could actually see them. In the dark. They just acted like they could see us, they knew we were there, and that they were pretty much just waiting for us to get to where they could get to us without us noticing them. I called up to the base and had them roll my six bradleys out there, fully armed, all weapons hot. I would not go past that next intersection.

7:48 We loaded up. As the tanks were rolling by, they started going up the other mountain side, up the other side, and I mean it was just it was probably for them to come to the base from the base out five miles on tracks would take them about about twenty to twenty five minutes. Within that twenty to twenty five minutes, once the back entrance of the base opened up and there were Bradley's coming our way, they started traversing the mountain range on the other side, the other side of the of the valley. Within twenty minutes, they were completely out of sight, all right. When we went in for the debriefing, I'm telling you, I was still so scared. My whole team was so scared. I mean, we've been to Beiru, We've been to living On, We've been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Somalia, I mean everywhere in every kind of jungle that you ever thought of, any kind of desert you ever thought of.

9:04 And we was on the back of a training ground, on what they call proving grounds. And I'm telling you what they say about the infrasound of just the pure terror that you get that it gives off. I mean, I'm telling you when we watch them walk across the dark side of that intersection and you can still see their heads above the post, the light posts. That are there. And I mean just watching them, and it's all flat on the other side of the intersection, so it's not like there's a heel on the other side of the intersection and they're, you know, six six and a half foot. No, it's all flat and these post are eight foot and you can watch all three of them walk past the post and their heads never go behind the post. And when we got back inside the base and we've done all the debriefings and everything, they made us sign documentation saying that we would not talk about it, we would not let anybody know where we were at that that was the discussion. We could tell people about the incident, about what we saw, but they took the videos from

10:35 all the instruments that we had and we all had to sign documentation showing and saying. That we would not. Let them know were the incident happened, that the name of the proving ground, even the state that it was in. We couldn't tell nobody any kind of information about where it was. But until I climb out of that into that Bradley in the TCC, because my driver and my gunner was still at the base, but we had them roll out and come pick us up weapons hot. Okay, that's how scared I was. Okay, Now I've got AR fifteen on me with my regular you know, seven hundred rounds, and I've got a glock forty five strapped to my chest, and I'm telling you that we did not have enough firepower.

11:40 There was not enough AMMO there for what we felt we would have been fighting. And that is hand on the Bible. And I've still got all the paperwork and stuff like that where we had to sign saying that we would not disclose the location of where we was at what happened. But I drilled them until I was told by a one star general to drop it. Oh, because I want the first thing, like why we were doing while we were moving, I was calling into the base and trying to find out if they had anybody else out there that was doing any kind of surveillance on us to be able to use instruments to see us as we're trying to see other stuff. I mean, I was trying to get a set rep on if there's any other active military.

12:46 Members on the range while we're using it. Because I was at the point to where, honestly, I mean I'd already went weapons hot because I thought they were getting too close to us, and I told my guys, I said, once we get to the five mile marker intersection, if they approach us any at all, come, I mean a couple inches toward us, it's on. I'm literally gonna light whatever it is up and deal with the consequences later. Wow. That that is one of the most incredible stories I've heard in my five years. Thank you for sharing that, and thank you for your service. Absolutely, it sounds like you've been involved with many different areas of combat. I know there's really no questions you can answer. Probably I'm just gonna try. Were you the only ones to have sightings around that area or was it a common thing?

13:54 It was a common thing. Yeah, okay, and it's not just me. There was six other people from my team that saw and using you know, at that time, that was the most high tech imaging equipment that the Army had was flear, thermal and night vision, and all three of them had recording capability. And when we got to the base, they took everything from us, the instruments, any kind of night vision, They took our phones, they took everything like all communication devices and put us in a sit red room with the doors locked with guards on the outside. We had to drop all our weapons, leave everything, and they took us in there for a debriefing and we had to sign sworn statements and stuff like that that we would not disclose where we were at the location that we were and everything like that, even the names of the proving grounds that stayed, anything like that.

15:07 And while we were in service, we were not allowed to talk about it at all, even with each other. They told us. Once we were out of the military, we could talk about the incident, but we were still sworn to secrecy about the locations of where it was. Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages and it makes you wonder why they were taking it so serious, and that's absolutely intense.

15:58 Thank you for coming out. I I'm not going to press things any any further than I don't want to put you in a situation, but I appreciate you sharing what you're able to. You have my email there on screen if you ever need to reach out at at a later time, sir. Thank you. All right, Hey, this is Jeremiah. Thanks for coming up. Oh man, I'd love to hear what you experienced out there. In Glenny because what I've heard so far it's there's some activity in that area. Yeah, so you know, unfortunately this isn't firsthand experience. It's an uncle of Minett owned some property in Glenny who tells me the stories of a family of them. I guess a mom and dad and two young ones that iron his back back.

16:46 Eighty acres that he sees. Hears them more than he sees him, but he has seen them a few times. He describes them well, I mean pretty much as you think. Uh, I guess what he's most I guess what he most talked about is the way they the way they they move around. I guess they He describes it as as really unusual. The way they travel, almost like a He describes as like a gliding motion, like the like the head and shoulders. They don't bob up and down. It's more of just leg movement, very very fast, almost like a gliding motion. That's kind of what fascinated me about it.

17:32 So, wow, do you still have contact with this individual? Yeah? Yeah, it's my uncle. Yeah, I talk with him maybe maybe every month or so. You know, I can, I can call him at any time and talk to him. But yeah, I know he's he's has has he's had, has had many encounters. He hears them all the time at night, he hears the Ohio. He describes it as the I'm sure you're familiar with the Ohio, the Ohio howl. That's what he closely, he says it closely. He resembles almost to a tee. You've seen him from a distance in the woods. He had he had one encounter where he saw one come out chasing the deer, and the deer was running from one patch of woods to another through a clearing, and uh.

18:27 This this. Bipedal, you know, Bigfoot came out into the clearing and actually caught the deer. So that I mean, they're that fast, they're that quick. He had think had caught the deer and drug it back in the woods in a matter of seconds, he said, he think, he said he was. He was a good one hundred yards away. He wasn't too close. So that's about what I got. That's that's awesome. If you would, I don't know if it's possible, if you could pass on my email to your uncle just to if he's interested, I would love to talk to him.

19:08 Sure, sure, you wonder where that. I'm curious where that barn is at where you're talking about with that policeman had a standoff in Glenning him. It's a really. Small town, so is it really wonder how close it is. I wonder how close it is to to my uncle's place. It's it's actually it was a it was a log cabin set up. Okay, yeah, yeah, And I think I think he actually this is years ago. I talked to this guy, but I think he said it may have it was either not in the family anymore or it burned down. But if you go to my podcast is big for society, and if you if he's sort by like most viewed, it's the like one where it's like a police officer has a standoff with a bigfoot in Michigan and you might be able to figure it out if you're familiar with the area.

19:57 Yeah, it was. Yeah, I don't know, I'm so familiar. So cool. We'll definitely check that out, all right. I wish I had more for you, hey, no, sweat, it's a good potential lead though. I appreciate you coming up. All right, Thank you, thanks for having me, all right, Thanks sir, hey Man, thanks for coming up. All right, cool, So what happened on your deer hunt? Dude? It would have been two years ago this year with this fall. We own right at two hundred acres that opens up into eleven hundred acres of government lands around the Wayne National and I heard brush kick up and I thought it was my target buck. It was massive and nothing ever came in sight and then just like these blood curdling screams, and like the only thing I could do, I was afraid to pull my phone up.

20:51 I didn't want it to see me before I seen it because I didn't know what it was. So I just kind of pulled out voice memo and recorded, and like you could hear it, like egg coming off the heels. And as soon as it quit, I went out the woods and I haven't been back in those woods. Wow, that's southeast Ohio. That is. Southeastern Ish. I'm the farthest South county in Ohio before you get. To Oh, okay, you're still there. Good good, good. So my email is big for society gmail dot com. Would you be able to share that audio you captured? That sounds really interesting? So weird? Uh seven to four, I'm gonna have to let you go sorry about that. You're something's going on weird, but feel free to reach out through email. All right, big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Sean tonight. Shawn's an individual that reached out to me through email to have Sean on the show today. And Sean, I'm going to go ahead and pretty much give it over to you and bring us back to that time in Minnesota where you experienced some pretty interesting things.

22:13 Thanks for having me on. I'm kind of excited to talk to you. Listen to your podcast. I just recently, not recently, but this year joined Spotify and I just I found you and your podcast, and I listened to every show. And I've been a big Foot believer, probably before I even knew what Bigfoot was. My sister's about six years older than me. When I was eight years old. Sorry we I was born in Minnesota, born and raised my sister, her friend. Her friend's parents had a boat and they would go on Lake Superior a lot. And there's a chain of islands just about Wisconsin called the Apostle Islands. My sister has a picture. She doesn't know exactly what island they were on. I've asked her this about it many times, and she tells me what she can remember is her parents or the parents, you know, docked the boat. Her and her friend went on the island.

23:16 They found this giant rock. I mean, it was more like a boulder. I don't know how far back my sister's friend is, but she took a picture and on the ground level kind of it would be too when she was taking the picture, it'd be her left, so my sister's right, so it'd be behind my sister. Clearly looks like a monkey. You can clearly see the monkey. It just looks like it was walking by and it kind of just maybe saw the flash or maybe saw them or something. I don't know how she couldn't see it, But my sister said that all she remembers was the island was really quiet. There's no birds. It kind of felt like I don't know if she said they're playing, like they're being chased by something. I don't know, but she doesn't remember too much. So ever, since eight years old, I was wondering why there was a monkey in that picture.

24:12 Around ninety seven, when web TV came out, I got web TV, and that's why I learned about Bigfoot. I sent the picture to a couple bigfoot websites. They told me it was bs. It was nothing. I was up a tree. It was just nothing, but you could it was just too clear. I mean I took it to I forgot where it was, someplace where he could like pay for internet use. And then I tried zooming in on the picture. You clearly see where the eyes were sunken in. You can see the forehead, you can see the where the skin and the fur on the head kind of part. It was really obvious. The guy that worked there, he was like, what the hell is that.

24:55 I was like, it's a monkey. He's like from where And I was like on those eyes unlike superior, And he was like looking at me like I was crazy. But so I've been trying to find that picture again, but my sister moved so much that it's just I don't know if we'll ever find that picture again. But and then that kind of sparked my interest in bigfoot. So around ninety six, I started getting annuity payments because my dad was killed when I was baby, so I got a bunch of money when I turned eighteen, and so I started getting into bigfoot. I started hunting it I was pro kill. I was doing it a different way.

25:41 I wasn't hunting it. I was trying to lure it to me. I didn't know anything about anything, so I was trying all different methods, food, baby toys, just anything to try to track it. A lot of the Bigfoot like organizations didn't really like me because they knew I was feeding off their sightings. So I would find sightings in the area that I lived in, and I'd go hunt those areas, and they knew what I was doing. I you know, I used the kind of the cover of I'm out there coyote hunting, department hunting. So I was in the gilla suit, I had the rifle. I spent a lot of time. I did that from about ninety seven to two thousand and eight. I was pretty pretty hard into it. But we can talk about that small time. Because you know, I'd never seen an adult.

26:40 I've seen juveniles and babies. I figured it was I could probably attract that more than an adult because so I don't know, it was just a different kind of method I was trying, and I noticed all these people that through the hunting. Now they try to go seek it out. But I think it's best if you try to lure it to you. But anyways, we can we can talk about that some other time. To tell you about the camping trip, I sent you those screenshots, so I don't know if you want to. If you're looking at those now. Yes, I got them. I got them up, so I'm taking a look at it.

27:24 So back in about two thousand, i'd say about two thousand and two thousand and one, my friend's parents sold their house and they bought another house. But for some reason, the people that were in that house weren't leaving for like two months. So my friend's parents already sold the house. So they're like, well, where what are we going to do? So they're like, let's go camping. They bought a little camper. We first went to one place for a month. I had no you know, just whatever, and then they had to move so they went to bake Elmoon Park Reserve.

28:06 It looks a lot different now. Back then it didn't have as many of the r V campsites. It was just maybe two circles, the one that I sent you the full screenshot of and then the one to the left of it. So the others weren't there, so like, we're there for about a month. There's the camper, and then there was about including me, there's eight people. You had a big family. Most of the people slept in the camper. Me and my friend Mike, we slept in the tent, the two men tent. We put the tent along the tree line, so our heads were like in the tree line. So but the weird thing is, we never got we never got messed with in the tent.

28:57 But the first week was fine, and then about mid week of the second week, we're all sitting around the campfire and we heard something walking in the forest, like behind us. You could tell it was walking like down a hill. There's it was just really crunchy, but you could tell it was walking on two legs. We thought it was a deer at first, but then as a king closer to the tree line, we're like, no, that's that's that's walking on two legs. So we just kind of ignored it. Then the next night happened again around the same time. It's really weird. We just you know, played it off like whatever. After a week of it happening, we just kind of we got fed up with it.

29:46 The old man was the first one to kind of run into the forest after it, you know, with no flashlight, no light nothing. After he ran in, me and three of the other boys kind of followed him afterwards, and you know, we're just wandering in the dark in the forest. We don't know where we're going, and then we hear the old man says he's right in front of me. We all stop and where I was like, well, if he's in front of you, then reach out and grab him, and he's like, I'm trying, but he's like and then you hear like little crunch crunch. Big for a society, who will be right back after these messages.

30:44 And then we all kind of walk towards the crunch crunch obviously nothing, probably walk into each other, don't know where the hell I'm stepping, and then we hear crunch crunch kind of further away. Then we're still kind of wandering for a couple more minutes nothing. We didn't find things, so we just kind of went back to the campground where we're camping, and then just like weird things like that would happen, and we tried tom the park rangers what was going on. Didn't really believe us at first until other campers started getting messed with, like food would start going missing, clothing would be missing, towels just like things were going through like gone through. And they thought it was us. They thought we were trying to like mess with other campers. I don't know. They didn't believe us.

31:37 They thought it was us doing it. So it got to the point where they called in the local police. The local police came in. He had a canine. Yes, that's what was going on. We told them, we just somebody's messing with us. We don't know, you know who it is, obviously, we don't know what it is. So the canine and the dog, or the cop and the canine go into the forest with the flashlight. He walks in about I don't know, twenty feet, turns his flashlight off, and then maybe hundred guards behind him. You hear a whistle and you see the flashlight turn on, like he was like spooked, and he turns around. His dog didn't react, But as soon as he turned around to with the flashlight to look to see where he could see the whistle, another whistle on the other side of him. So he turned around again, and as soon as he turned around, I don't know, maybe he saw some I don't know what he saw, but you could hear him on his radio.

32:43 He called something in and then he comes back out and he tells us. He's like, well, whoever it is, we're gonna find him, because I just called in the state trooper helicopter and they got thermal and night vision. So whoever it is, we're gonna find out. Because it got to the point where the park was fed up with it and they just wanted, you know, they want to stop. So that's why they bring in the the trooper with the helicopter and the thermal and all that. They flew over for like a half hour, and they called back to that canine cop and said that they didn't see anything, They didn't find anything. So what puzzled me was how it got away so quickly, because there's really if you see on the map, I mean, from when that cop called in the helicopter, it was no less than three minutes that the thing was that the helicopter showed up and they never they never found anything.

33:43 They said. The weird thing was they didn't see even any animals like on thermal. The weird thing was is the one night me and my friend went into the forest to kind of see if we could kind of maybe waited out and maybe kind of wait till he comes out. Whoever it was, maybe he kind of, you know, ambush him someway. I don't know it was. And the weird thing was is I saw the silhouette of him. He was like sitting down, And what was weird was the silhouette looked like a guy in a flannel wearing a baseball cap forward and I seen him between two trees.

34:33 He was the sun or the moon was like behind him, so he could see the silhouette. And I pointed to my friend and I was like, look, he's right there. And as soon as we kind of got up to go towards him, all he did was kind of fell forward and then he was gone, like no sound. So I don't know if he just laid down, because obviously we weren't going to find him, but it was just really weird how and then we went to where he was sitting, and when where he was sitting, you could clearly see our campsite, like really clear. It was really weird. So I don't know why he was watching us or who it was, but it was just really weird. But I'm not saying it was bigfoot. It was just whoever it was had to have had night vision and knew how to walk in the forest quiet because and for some reason they were just messing with us. I honestly thought it was one of my friends as friends messing with us because he was like the one of the brothers was in the army at the time, and I don't know, we just a lot of stuff where it was going through everybody's heads, like, you know, we thought, we're like, you know, we thought it was somebody. But for somebody to hide that well from the police and thermal and all that and park rangers, it is just beyond me.

35:59 Yeah, it's such a weird account because, yeah, as you said, you're not saying it's bigfoot, but the way you're describing it, there are things that it does line up with other accounts, like you have the whistling, you have the random disappearing. But then on the other hand, like it's a weird silhouette doesn't really maybe line up with what people think of when they usually think bigfoot, But it's just it really makes you think. There's one incident we had where me and my friend were sit by the campfire. Everybody else was on camper.

36:40 I've never seen this happen before, but like six about six seven raccoons just kind of nonchalantly just came out of the forest through our camp site. And literally seconds after that, like a tree started shaking and we heard like it sounded more like a dog growl, but where the tree he was shaking it was seven eight feet up and it made like a low guttural like dog growl, and we kind of looked at each other like, what the hell is that? And I honestly don't remember what happened after that. I don't know if we went back into the tent or what, but we just kind of I don't scared the shot on me because I wasn't expecting that. But and then we did also find our tents or not our tents, sorry, our towels in the thickest part of the forest because we couldn't find our towels for some reason. And my friend had the idea that to go just look for him, and and we thought we saw somebody in the forest, so that's why we went towards him, but it was really our towels just hanging up on the on some branches kind of like they're trying. It's weird. That's why we thought with a selshold. There was a man made lake there where it was like chlorinated, and my friends were told me they remember when they were swimming. Their sister was on

38:13 the beach and they seen a guy like literally standing like he had his face up against her back of her head, but she didn't know, so that's why they kind of thought maybe it was him. But I'm like, why would somebody target just us? There was other campers. There's so many other campers. I'm sorry to be all over the place, but I remember too the site next to us, these two guys came their new new campers and they were kind of bragging, like because they heard about what was going on. And I don't know if they were just full of it, but they're like, oh, yeah, we're ex Green Beret. We're gonna set up a line from our tent up into the forest and whatever it is, you know, we'll trip the line and we'll know and then we'll go investigate. What was really weird is he said they're going to be there a week. The next day they're gone, So I don't know. I don't know what was up with that. I don't know if something was in there. Met some of them all night and they got super spooke that they just moved because we don't know if they went to another site or what.

39:27 But they're like, yeah, we're going to be here a week. If anything's out there, we're going to find it, because you know, we're ex military, and they're gone. The next day, I was like what, Like, I was like, where did these guys go? I thought they're and we just we couldn't figure it out why. We asked the rangers too, like why where where did those guys go? And they're like, I don't know, they just left. It's so interesting because, like so listeners know, I like to look at maps usually, and if you look, so this is Lake Elmo Park Reserve, which is like two thousand acres, and you can look at it a few different ways, because you can look at it one way it's on the east side of Minneapolis, but then if you look at the whole map, it's kind of in the area where there's a part where Minneapolis starts to not be Minneapolis and goes into like that driftless area eventually, which is your southeast Minnesota and then your western Wisconsin and northeast Iowa, and that area is like crazy for bigfoot sightings. So I know there's a few different ways definitely to look at this, but it's so so interesting.

40:46 What year did you say this was? Again, probably I think like two thousand and two thousand and one in the summertime. Okay, two thousand interesting, two thousand and. One, But yeah, it didn't look that park didn't look like that before back then. Now it's there's so much more. And where I sent you the screenshot was where we were. You could see the tree line and then behind it there's that lake. I do remember one time me and his little brother were taking a little hike and we heard splashing in that lake and I just jokingly kind of yelled out, helped me, and you could hear a real low, creepy help me, and we didn't go help.

41:35 We were in. It scared us a wow, but it was super weird how you and my friend was like, his little brother was like, do you hear that? As I said, no, but I heard it, and it just yeah, it kind of freaked us both out because we weren't expecting that. And yeah, it was just a lot of a lot of weird stuff happened that whole month at the with that campsite. It was so weird. It's it's it's extremely weird, and it's it's we've already said we're going to talk about a different time, but I do want to skirt around it a little bit, just because so you said, this is two thousand and one, This is in the middle of the time of that ninety seven to two thousand and eight era, right, yeah, yeah, So.

42:26 But it was nowhere near where I was doing the hunting, nowhere, not even okay, not even close to where it was. So you well you mean like geographic area, got it? Okay, Yeah, yeah, I was more closer to where I was doing that hunting, was more closer to Minneapolis. Even that area was kind of residentially. So this is weird how close that they really do come to residential areas. No, I agree, And you know, a lot of this is probably the thing I get the most pushback about is the episodes where it's like it's like northern Portland and or it's southwest Portland and people are like, well, it's so close to Portland or Minneapolis or put in the big city name, and people need to realize that it can happen because these cities get larger and larger and they push into areas or the creatures where there beforehand, and then the city just grew around it. I mean, You've got, for example, an area down Florida called the Green Swamp, and it's an extremely active area, but it is surrounded on all sides by a lot of housing.

43:46 And I don't think it's out of the question that stuff like this can happen in an area such as what you're presenting, and you don't know exactly what happened, but it's just such an interesting story. Yeah, because now, I mean now, I live in Portland, Oregon, so I've been here since twenty seventeen, and even like I live in southwest Portland. But if you really think about it and you look at it, there's a lot of thick forests here, like all over Portland. And it wouldn't surprise me because I see coyotes, I see foxes, you know, I see a family of foxes, all of them, see the pups and the parents. They're always chilling on the road. Like you know, people think that these things don't live in the city, but they do.

44:35 Yeah, absolutely, I get. I mean I've gotten more than a few reports, probably two or three from you know how North Portland has like that big wooded area up there. If you look on a map, there's like it's uh northwest Portland. There's an area that's it's got a lot green. I've gotten a few people that have submitted weird stuff from that area, like sightings and stuff. So you never know, you know, but. Yeah, that area, Yeah, forest park. Yeah, I'm sure they're there because it's a huge foresty park right along the loved to Columbia.

45:16 You moved out to the Pacific Northwest? Is it a thing where now you're kind of in the thick of it. Are you still into it out there or you kind of got away from it? No, I haven't done anything since two thousand and eight. Sure, when I was in Minnesota, I just kind of twenty twelve I moved to Texas. I was down there, I was in West Texas. I wasn't really into it down there. I don't even think it lives in the desert, but I don't know where it could hide. There's nothing out there but red sand or a dirt and cactuses. So the only thing that I saw out there was what was weird was I saw cougar, which you are told me they haven't been in that area for decades, so I don't think they believed me. But what was weird as I saw out our rest up.

46:08 Yeah, they're never really going to say that it's in the area though, from mining from what I picked up, I mean, they're just they usually will not say it's there. Did you ever after that, you know, let's say, when you got a little older, did you ever do any research to see if there had been other sightings or people that have had similar things happen in the Lake Elmo area. Yeah, I've looked it up. There's nothing. Okay, Well, it'd be interesting to see if someone you know, reaches out from this. See, yeah, I had something happen, but it was like twenty years difference, But you never know.

46:54 The Other thing I wanted to comment on is the monkey photo up in the Apostle Islands, which there really cool looking islands. I mean, I've seen pictures of them before, but uh, man, if you ever find that photo, dude, or your sister ever finds it, wow. Yeah, it's something picture for the DNR that takes care of the Apostle Islands. And they said, yeah, it looks like the islands. They said, there's no monkeys up here. It's like, okay, whatever. And then I contacted somebody I forgot what what first nation tribe I think they were, I don't remember, but they told me that there's like a myth of like folklore of like a beast that looks like Bigfoot that lives on the islands or just kind of lives in Lake Superior.

47:47 Well there you go, man. But you know, they said they don't know if it looks like a monkey or what. They just said it was like a beast of some some sort. But I think it was the omission Abby, I don't know, Okay, but or SHASHAWNI I don't know. But I didn't think that they were from that part of Minnesota. I thought was more like like northern Minnesota is like more like o Jibwe, and and like, I know there's a lot of like Sue, but yeah, I think there's Shawne's out. Yeah, but I don't know because I'm met a Native guy. His name was Sean, but he spelled his se joan for Concili so I don't know, it's weird.

48:28 Gotcha, Sean, It's it's an interesting account. It's one of those that I like because it usually leads to other things and then hopefully it'll lead to maybe some some closure for yourself. Maybe we can get some more experiences out out of this area. Maybe people can reach out, send me an email, or they can even put it in the comments on the YouTube video if they've experienced other things in the area. We're also up in the Apostle Islands too. If you've had a big experience up there you saw something that looks like a monkey, that would. Be cool too. You know, a lot of Alan's are like there's houses on them on some of them, but a lot of them are kind of deserted.

49:11 Oh interesting. Okay, all right, well there you go. But Sean, it's been it's been a pleasure of chatting with you today, and thank you for sharing some really interesting things that happened in that Lake Elmo area. Yeah, it was really weird. I wish I knew what it was because the law enforcement never told us anything. They just said they can't find anything, and that was that, and the park told us don't ever come back. Really and they told his parents that he said, they don't want us. They don't want them there anymore because they thought it was us. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the app show it on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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