Oct. 25, 2024

We didn't have enough firepower until the tanks came! (A Collection of Accounts)

Join us for a spine-chilling episode as we delve into a series of mysterious and unnerving encounters experienced by both military personnel and civilians. Hear gripping accounts from the Special Forces operative who, during a night training exercise,...

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Season 1

Join us for a spine-chilling episode as we delve into a series of mysterious and unnerving encounters experienced by both military personnel and civilians. Hear gripping accounts from the Special Forces operative who, during a night training exercise, used advanced imaging technology to witness inexplicable entities roaming a military proving ground, leading to a call for heavily armed reinforcements. Uncover tales of curious Bigfoot sightings, like a serviceman’s experience in the Wayne National Forest, second-hand stories from Glenny, Michigan, and childhood encounters around Lake Superior. Explore eerie events at Lake Elmo Park Reserve near Minneapolis, with strange movements, sounds, and whistling that left authorities baffled despite deploying helicopters and ex-military personnel. These encounters stretch across different states, revealing unsettling phenomena that have haunted witnesses, leaving many unanswered questions.

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Slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. Hey man, thanks for coming out. So

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you had some weird stuff happening on a military base.

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Okay, this is the thing, all right.

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I can't tell you the location, yes, sir, I can't

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tell you the name of the base that we was behind,

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but I can tell you the encounter. Okay we I

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was Army Special Forces.

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I will tell you that.

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We were at a proving ground and we were testing

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out thermals, night vision and fleers when they first came out.

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Behind this installation, there is a T shaped mountain range

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that is part of the training ground. Every one mile

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in increments from the back of the base out into

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the training ground, there's a mountain side on the left,

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there's a mountain side on the right. There's a valley

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that goes through the middle of it. And when you

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get out about eleven miles out, you run into another

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mountain range that.

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Goes east to west.

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So it's a T shaped training area of that's behind

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the base. At each intersection that you come to at

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one mile increments, there are four posts that are set

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up on each corner. There is a light that is

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a solar panel light on each post.

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When you get out to the.

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Eleven mile marker, you always do training and everything left

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to right, east to west through that area. And then

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when you're leaving there where you d where you drop

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all your weapons, clear your magazines, everything like that, you

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know the training's over.

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It's an eleven mile.

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Setting, each increment of one mile to where you'll get

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to the marker post. Okay, so we had already cleared

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all our weapons and everything like that. They had took

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us in about six miles, so we were at the

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six mile post all right. They dropped us off to

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do the last bit of the training with these new

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thermal sites and everything like that. Well, as soon as

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we got dropped off and we left that intersection and

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started going in toward the base, we noticed that there

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were three I can't say people, I can't say creature.

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I can just tell you there was three things that

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was on the mountain side beside us where we could

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see them in the flair and we could see them

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in the thermal, but we couldn't see them in the

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night vision.

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There wasn't enough light.

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As we was moving from that intersection to the next intersection.

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They were traversing the mountain side on an angle, coming

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down toward us to where they were going to intercept

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us within the next mile to two miles before you

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get to the next setting. So as we keep going down,

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they keep going down at the angle.

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It's scared.

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Now.

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This is a Special Forces team of seven. There's seven

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of us and we're basically doing the last you know,

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six miles into the back of the base. We got

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to the next marker where the lights were, and they

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had went past that. We were sitting there and looking

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at them and we're We're like, okay, we're gonna we're

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They're keeping on moving, so we're just gonna keep on moving.

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So we were moving on down to the next intersection.

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They started coming down closer and closer toward us. As

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we got to the next intersection, before we got into

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the edge of the light and they were going across

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the dark side of the far side of the intersection.

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We was on one side of it and they was

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going across the other side. We went back out the

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next day where they crossed that and I took a

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tape measure and I measured the light post on all

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four corners, all of them were eight foot exactly. We

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had recorded thermal, recorded flear.

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And night vision at that point.

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That was all recorded to where as they walked across

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the dark side of that intersection, their heads were above

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the lights.

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We stopped.

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We were so scared when I mean just the feeling

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that comes over you that the just.

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I mean, to be terrified that much.

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We literally locked and loaded and we stayed at that intersection.

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I would not go no further because as they had

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moved across the valley floor, but they were still just

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on the other side.

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Of the road where we would have been walking.

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Byn almost like they didn't almost like they didn't know

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that we could actually see them.

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In the dark.

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They just acted like they could see us, they knew

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we were there, and that they were pretty much just

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waiting for us to get to where they could get

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to us without us noticing them. I called up to

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the base and had them roll my six bradleys out there,

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fully armed, all weapons hot. I would not go past

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that next intersection.

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We loaded up.

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As the tanks were rolling by, they started going up

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the other mountain side, up the other side, and I

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mean it was just it was probably for them to

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come to the base from the base out five miles

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on tracks would take them about about twenty to twenty

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five minutes. Within that twenty to twenty five minutes, once

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the back entrance of the base opened up and there

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were Bradley's coming our way, they started traversing the mountain

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range on the other side, the other side of the

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of the valley. Within twenty minutes, they were completely out

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of sight, all right. When we went in for the debriefing,

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I'm telling you, I was still so scared. My whole

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team was so scared. I mean, we've been to Beiru,

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We've been to living On, We've been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Somalia,

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I mean everywhere in every kind of jungle that you

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ever thought of, any kind of desert you ever thought of.

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And we was on the back of a training ground,

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on what they call proving grounds. And I'm telling you

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what they say about the infrasound of just the pure

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terror that you get that it gives off. I mean,

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I'm telling you when we watch them walk across the

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dark side of that intersection and you can still see

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their heads above the post, the light posts.

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That are there.

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And I mean just watching them, and it's all flat

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on the other side of the intersection, so it's not

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like there's a heel on the other side of the

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intersection and they're, you know, six six and a half foot. No,

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it's all flat and these post are eight foot and

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you can watch all three of them walk past the

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post and their heads never go behind the post. And

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when we got back inside the base and we've done

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all the debriefings and everything, they made us sign documentation

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saying that we would not talk about it, we would

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not let anybody know where we were at that that

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was the discussion. We could tell people about the incident,

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about what we saw, but they took the videos from

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all the instruments that we had and we all had

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to sign documentation showing and saying.

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That we would not.

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Let them know were the incident happened, that the name

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of the proving ground, even the state that it was in.

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We couldn't tell nobody any kind of information about where

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it was. But until I climb out of that into

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that Bradley in the TCC, because my driver and my

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gunner was still at the base, but we had them

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roll out and come pick us up weapons hot. Okay,

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that's how scared I was. Okay, Now I've got AR

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fifteen on me with my regular you know, seven hundred rounds,

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and I've got a glock forty five strapped to my chest,

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and I'm telling you that we did not have enough firepower.

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There was not enough AMMO there for what we felt

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we would have been fighting. And that is hand on

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the Bible. And I've still got all the paperwork and

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stuff like that where we had to sign saying that

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we would not disclose the location of where we was

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at what happened. But I drilled them until I was

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told by a one star general to drop it. Oh,

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because I want the first thing, like why we were

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doing while we were moving, I was calling into the

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base and trying to find out if they had anybody

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else out there that was doing any kind of surveillance

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on us to be able to use instruments to see

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us as we're trying to see other stuff. I mean,

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I was trying to get a set rep on if

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there's any other active military.

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Members on the range while we're using it.

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Because I was at the point to where, honestly, I

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mean I'd already went weapons hot because I thought they

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were getting too close to us, and I told my guys,

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I said, once we get to the five mile marker intersection,

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if they approach us any at all, come, I mean

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a couple inches toward us, it's on. I'm literally gonna

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light whatever it is up and deal with the consequences later.

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Wow.

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That that is one of the most incredible stories I've

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heard in my five years. Thank you for sharing that,

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and thank you for your service. Absolutely, it sounds like

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you've been involved with many different areas of combat. I

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know there's really no questions you can answer. Probably I'm

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just gonna try. Were you the only ones to have

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sightings around that area or was it a common thing?

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It was a common thing. Yeah, okay, and it's not

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just me. There was six other people from my team

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that saw and using you know, at that time, that

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was the most high tech imaging equipment that the Army

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had was flear, thermal and night vision, and all three

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of them had recording capability. And when we got to

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the base, they took everything from us, the instruments, any

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kind of night vision, They took our phones, they took

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everything like all communication devices and put us in a

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sit red room with the doors locked with guards on

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the outside. We had to drop all our weapons, leave everything,

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and they took us in there for a debriefing and

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we had to sign sworn statements and stuff like that

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that we would not disclose where we were at the

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location that we were and everything like that, even the

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names of the proving grounds that stayed, anything like that.

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And while we were in service, we were not allowed

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to talk about it at all, even with each other.

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They told us.

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Once we were out of the military, we could talk

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about the incident, but we were still sworn to secrecy

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about the locations of where it was.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these

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messages and it makes you wonder why they were taking

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it so serious, and that's absolutely intense.

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Thank you for coming out.

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I I'm not going to press things any any further

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than I don't want to put you in a situation,

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but I appreciate you sharing what you're able to. You

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have my email there on screen if you ever need

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to reach out at at a later time, sir.

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All right, Hey, this is Jeremiah. Thanks for coming up.

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Oh man, I'd love to hear what you experienced out there.

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In Glenny because what I've heard so far it's there's

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some activity in that area.

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Yeah, so you know, unfortunately this isn't firsthand experience. It's

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an uncle of Minett owned some property in Glenny who

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tells me the stories of a family of them. I

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guess a mom and dad and two young ones that

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iron his back back.

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Eighty acres that he sees.

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Hears them more than he sees him, but he has

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seen them a few times. He describes them well, I

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mean pretty much as you think. Uh, I guess what

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he's most I guess what he most talked about is

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the way they the way they they move around. I

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guess they He describes it as as really unusual. The

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way they travel, almost like a He describes as like

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a gliding motion, like the like the head and shoulders.

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They don't bob up and down.

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It's more of just leg movement, very very fast, almost

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like a gliding motion. That's kind of what fascinated me

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about it.

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So, wow, do you still have contact with this individual? Yeah?

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Yeah, it's my uncle. Yeah, I talk with him maybe

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maybe every month or so. You know, I can, I

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can call him at any time and talk to him.

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But yeah, I know he's he's has has he's had,

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has had many encounters. He hears them all the time

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at night, he hears the Ohio. He describes it as

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the I'm sure you're familiar with the Ohio, the Ohio howl.

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That's what he closely, he says it closely. He resembles

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almost to a tee. You've seen him from a distance

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in the woods. He had he had one encounter where

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he saw one come out chasing the deer, and the

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deer was running from one patch of woods to another

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through a clearing, and uh.

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This this.

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Bipedal, you know, Bigfoot came out into the clearing and

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actually caught the deer.

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So that I mean, they're that fast, they're that quick.

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He had think had caught the deer and drug it

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back in the woods in a matter of seconds, he said,

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he think, he said he was. He was a good

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one hundred yards away. He wasn't too close. So that's

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about what I got.

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That's that's awesome.

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If you would, I don't know if it's possible, if

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you could pass on my email to your uncle just

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to if he's interested, I would love to talk to him.

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Sure, sure, you wonder where that.

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I'm curious where that barn is at where you're talking

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about with that policeman had a standoff in Glenning him.

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It's a really.

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Small town, so is it really wonder how close it is.

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I wonder how close it is to to my uncle's place.

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It's it's actually it was a it was a log

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cabin set up. Okay, yeah, yeah, And I think I

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think he actually this is years ago. I talked to

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this guy, but I think he said it may have

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it was either not in the family anymore or it

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burned down. But if you go to my podcast is

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big for society, and if you if he's sort by

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like most viewed, it's the like one where it's like

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a police officer has a standoff with a bigfoot in

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Michigan and you might be able to figure it out

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if you're familiar with the area.

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Yeah, it was. Yeah, I don't know, I'm so familiar.

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So cool. We'll definitely check that out, all right. I

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wish I had more for you, hey, no, sweat, it's

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a good potential lead though. I appreciate you coming up.

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All right, Thank you, thanks for having me, all right,

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Thanks sir, hey Man, thanks for coming up. All right, cool,

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So what happened on your deer hunt?

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Dude?

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It would have been two years ago this year with

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this fall. We own right at two hundred acres that

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opens up into eleven hundred acres of government lands around

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the Wayne National and I heard brush kick up and

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I thought it was my target buck. It was massive

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and nothing ever came in sight and then just like

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these blood curdling screams, and like the only thing I

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could do, I was afraid to pull my phone up.

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I didn't want it to see me before I seen

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it because I didn't know what it was. So I

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just kind of pulled out voice memo and recorded, and

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like you could hear it, like egg coming off the heels.

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And as soon as it quit, I went out the

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woods and I haven't been back in those woods.

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Wow, that's southeast Ohio.

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That is.

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Southeastern Ish. I'm the farthest South county in Ohio before

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you get.

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To Oh, okay, you're still there. Good good, good. So

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my email is big for society gmail dot com. Would

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you be able to share that audio you captured? That

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sounds really interesting? So weird? Uh seven to four, I'm

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gonna have to let you go sorry about that. You're

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something's going on weird, but feel free to reach out

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through email. All right, big for Society. You've got the

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privilege of talking to Sean tonight. Shawn's an individual that

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reached out to me through email to have Sean on

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the show today. And Sean, I'm going to go ahead

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and pretty much give it over to you and bring

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us back to that time in Minnesota where you experienced

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some pretty interesting things.

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Thanks for having me on. I'm kind of excited to

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talk to you. Listen to your podcast. I just recently,

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not recently, but this year joined Spotify and I just

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I found you and your podcast, and I listened to

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every show. And I've been a big Foot believer, probably

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before I even knew what Bigfoot was. My sister's about

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six years older than me. When I was eight years old.

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Sorry we I was born in Minnesota, born and raised

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my sister, her friend. Her friend's parents had a boat

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and they would go on Lake Superior a lot. And

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there's a chain of islands just about Wisconsin called the

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Apostle Islands. My sister has a picture. She doesn't know

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exactly what island they were on. I've asked her this

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about it many times, and she tells me what she

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can remember is her parents or the parents, you know,

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docked the boat. Her and her friend went on the island.

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They found this giant rock. I mean, it was more

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like a boulder. I don't know how far back my

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sister's friend is, but she took a picture and on

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the ground level kind of it would be too when

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she was taking the picture, it'd be her left, so

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my sister's right, so it'd be behind my sister. Clearly

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looks like a monkey. You can clearly see the monkey.

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It just looks like it was walking by and it

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kind of just maybe saw the flash or maybe saw

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them or something. I don't know how she couldn't see it,

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But my sister said that all she remembers was the

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island was really quiet. There's no birds. It kind of

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felt like I don't know if she said they're playing,

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like they're being chased by something. I don't know, but

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she doesn't remember too much. So ever, since eight years old,

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I was wondering why there was a monkey in that picture.

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Around ninety seven, when web TV came out, I got

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web TV, and that's why I learned about Bigfoot. I

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sent the picture to a couple bigfoot websites. They told

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me it was bs. It was nothing. I was up

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a tree. It was just nothing, but you could it

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was just too clear. I mean I took it to

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I forgot where it was, someplace where he could like

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pay for internet use. And then I tried zooming in

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on the picture. You clearly see where the eyes were

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sunken in. You can see the forehead, you can see

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the where the skin and the fur on the head

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kind of part. It was really obvious. The guy that

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worked there, he was like, what the hell is that.

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I was like, it's a monkey. He's like from where

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And I was like on those eyes unlike superior, And

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he was like looking at me like I was crazy.

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But so I've been trying to find that picture again,

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but my sister moved so much that it's just I

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don't know if we'll ever find that picture again. But

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and then that kind of sparked my interest in bigfoot.

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So around ninety six, I started getting annuity payments because

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my dad was killed when I was baby, so I

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got a bunch of money when I turned eighteen, and

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so I started getting into bigfoot. I started hunting it

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I was pro kill. I was doing it a different way.

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I wasn't hunting it. I was trying to lure it

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to me. I didn't know anything about anything, so I

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was trying all different methods, food, baby toys, just anything

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to try to track it. A lot of the Bigfoot

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like organizations didn't really like me because they knew I

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was feeding off their sightings. So I would find sightings

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in the area that I lived in, and I'd go

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hunt those areas, and they knew what I was doing.

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I you know, I used the kind of the cover

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of I'm out there coyote hunting, department hunting. So I

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was in the gilla suit, I had the rifle. I

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spent a lot of time. I did that from about

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ninety seven to two thousand and eight. I was pretty

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pretty hard into it. But we can talk about that

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small time. Because you know, I'd never seen an adult.

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I've seen juveniles and babies. I figured it was I

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could probably attract that more than an adult because so

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I don't know, it was just a different kind of

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method I was trying, and I noticed all these people

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that through the hunting. Now they try to go seek

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it out. But I think it's best if you try

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to lure it to you. But anyways, we can we

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can talk about that some other time. To tell you

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about the camping trip, I sent you those screenshots, so

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I don't know if you want to. If you're looking

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at those now.

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Yes, I got them. I got them up, so I'm

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taking a look at it.

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So back in about two thousand, i'd say about two

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thousand and two thousand and one, my friend's parents sold

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their house and they bought another house. But for some reason,

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the people that were in that house weren't leaving for

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like two months. So my friend's parents already sold the house.

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So they're like, well, where what are we going to do?

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So they're like, let's go camping. They bought a little camper.

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We first went to one place for a month. I

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had no you know, just whatever, and then they had

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to move so they went to bake Elmoon Park Reserve.

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It looks a lot different now. Back then it didn't

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have as many of the r V campsites. It was

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just maybe two circles, the one that I sent you

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the full screenshot of and then the one to the

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left of it. So the others weren't there, so like,

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we're there for about a month. There's the camper, and

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then there was about including me, there's eight people. You

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had a big family. Most of the people slept in

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the camper. Me and my friend Mike, we slept in

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the tent, the two men tent. We put the tent

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along the tree line, so our heads were like in

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the tree line. So but the weird thing is, we

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never got we never got messed with in the tent.

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But the first week was fine, and then about mid

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week of the second week, we're all sitting around the

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campfire and we heard something walking in the forest, like

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behind us. You could tell it was walking like down

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a hill. There's it was just really crunchy, but you

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could tell it was walking on two legs. We thought

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it was a deer at first, but then as a

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king closer to the tree line, we're like, no, that's

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that's that's walking on two legs. So we just kind

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of ignored it. Then the next night happened again around

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the same time. It's really weird. We just you know,

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played it off like whatever. After a week of it happening,

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we just kind of we got fed up with it.

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The old man was the first one to kind of

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run into the forest after it, you know, with no flashlight,

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no light nothing. After he ran in, me and three

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of the other boys kind of followed him afterwards, and

464
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you know, we're just wandering in the dark in the forest.

465
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.519
We don't know where we're going, and then we hear

466
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.400
the old man says he's right in front of me.

467
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.480
We all stop and where I was like, well, if

468
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.519
he's in front of you, then reach out and grab him,

469
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.359
and he's like, I'm trying, but he's like and then

470
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:24.039
you hear like little crunch crunch.

471
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:26.400
Big for a society, who will be right back after

472
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:27.720
these messages.

473
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.599
And then we all kind of walk towards the crunch

474
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.920
crunch obviously nothing, probably walk into each other, don't know

475
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.480
where the hell I'm stepping, and then we hear crunch

476
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:57.039
crunch kind of further away. Then we're still kind of

477
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.279
wandering for a couple more minutes nothing. We didn't find things,

478
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.480
so we just kind of went back to the campground

479
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:08.160
where we're camping, and then just like weird things like

480
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:13.000
that would happen, and we tried tom the park rangers

481
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.079
what was going on. Didn't really believe us at first

482
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:22.559
until other campers started getting messed with, like food would

483
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:28.200
start going missing, clothing would be missing, towels just like

484
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:32.079
things were going through like gone through. And they thought

485
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:33.960
it was us. They thought we were trying to like

486
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.720
mess with other campers. I don't know. They didn't believe us.

487
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.240
They thought it was us doing it. So it got

488
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.839
to the point where they called in the local police.

489
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.680
The local police came in. He had a canine. Yes,

490
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.640
that's what was going on. We told them, we just

491
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.839
somebody's messing with us. We don't know, you know who

492
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.920
it is, obviously, we don't know what it is. So

493
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.319
the canine and the dog, or the cop and the

494
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.839
canine go into the forest with the flashlight. He walks

495
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.920
in about I don't know, twenty feet, turns his flashlight off,

496
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:15.759
and then maybe hundred guards behind him. You hear a

497
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:21.400
whistle and you see the flashlight turn on, like he

498
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:25.720
was like spooked, and he turns around. His dog didn't react,

499
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.119
But as soon as he turned around to with the

500
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.759
flashlight to look to see where he could see the whistle,

501
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.279
another whistle on the other side of him. So he

502
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.720
turned around again, and as soon as he turned around,

503
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.759
I don't know, maybe he saw some I don't know

504
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.440
what he saw, but you could hear him on his radio.

505
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.359
He called something in and then he comes back out

506
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.759
and he tells us. He's like, well, whoever it is,

507
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.160
we're gonna find him, because I just called in the

508
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.680
state trooper helicopter and they got thermal and night vision.

509
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.079
So whoever it is, we're gonna find out. Because it

510
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.000
got to the point where the park was fed up

511
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.519
with it and they just wanted, you know, they want

512
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.759
to stop. So that's why they bring in the the

513
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.200
trooper with the helicopter and the thermal and all that.

514
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:16.759
They flew over for like a half hour, and they

515
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.839
called back to that canine cop and said that they

516
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.559
didn't see anything, They didn't find anything. So what puzzled

517
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.759
me was how it got away so quickly, because there's

518
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.200
really if you see on the map, I mean, from

519
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.680
when that cop called in the helicopter, it was no

520
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.440
less than three minutes that the thing was that the

521
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:43.240
helicopter showed up and they never they never found anything.

522
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.880
They said. The weird thing was they didn't see even

523
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.359
any animals like on thermal. The weird thing was is

524
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.400
the one night me and my friend went into the

525
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.559
forest to kind of see if we could kind of

526
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:05.440
maybe waited out and maybe kind of wait till he

527
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:10.960
comes out. Whoever it was, maybe he kind of, you know,

528
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.960
ambush him someway. I don't know it was. And the

529
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.880
weird thing was is I saw the silhouette of him.

530
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:23.079
He was like sitting down, And what was weird was

531
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.280
the silhouette looked like a guy in a flannel wearing

532
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:31.719
a baseball cap forward and I seen him between two trees.

533
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.199
He was the sun or the moon was like behind him,

534
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.079
so he could see the silhouette. And I pointed to

535
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:41.320
my friend and I was like, look, he's right there.

536
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:43.320
And as soon as we kind of got up to

537
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.400
go towards him, all he did was kind of fell

538
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.000
forward and then he was gone, like no sound. So

539
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.239
I don't know if he just laid down, because obviously

540
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.800
we weren't going to find him, but it was just

541
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.559
really weird how and then we went to where he

542
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.599
was sitting, and when where he was sitting, you could

543
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:08.559
clearly see our campsite, like really clear. It was really weird.

544
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:11.559
So I don't know why he was watching us or

545
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:16.599
who it was, but it was just really weird. But

546
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.519
I'm not saying it was bigfoot. It was just whoever

547
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.079
it was had to have had night vision and knew

548
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.639
how to walk in the forest quiet because and for

549
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.400
some reason they were just messing with us. I honestly

550
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.320
thought it was one of my friends as friends messing

551
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.440
with us because he was like the one of the

552
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.679
brothers was in the army at the time, and I

553
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.239
don't know, we just a lot of stuff where it

554
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.000
was going through everybody's heads, like, you know, we thought,

555
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.840
we're like, you know, we thought it was somebody. But

556
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.440
for somebody to hide that well from the police and

557
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:56.199
thermal and all that and park rangers, it is just

558
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:56.679
beyond me.

559
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:03.239
Yeah, it's such a weird account because, yeah, as you said,

560
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.559
you're not saying it's bigfoot, but the way you're describing it,

561
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.519
there are things that it does line up with other accounts,

562
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:18.199
like you have the whistling, you have the random disappearing.

563
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.679
But then on the other hand, like it's a weird

564
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:26.199
silhouette doesn't really maybe line up with what people think

565
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.440
of when they usually think bigfoot, But it's just it

566
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:30.480
really makes you think.

567
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.320
There's one incident we had where me and my friend

568
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.280
were sit by the campfire. Everybody else was on camper.

569
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.480
I've never seen this happen before, but like six about

570
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.880
six seven raccoons just kind of nonchalantly just came out

571
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:53.000
of the forest through our camp site. And literally seconds

572
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.000
after that, like a tree started shaking and we heard

573
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.760
like it sounded more like a dog growl, but where

574
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.639
the tree he was shaking it was seven eight feet

575
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.599
up and it made like a low guttural like dog growl,

576
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.000
and we kind of looked at each other like, what

577
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.920
the hell is that? And I honestly don't remember what

578
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.000
happened after that. I don't know if we went back

579
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.880
into the tent or what, but we just kind of

580
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.760
I don't scared the shot on me because I wasn't

581
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:32.280
expecting that. But and then we did also find our

582
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.760
tents or not our tents, sorry, our towels in the

583
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.239
thickest part of the forest because we couldn't find our

584
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:43.280
towels for some reason. And my friend had the idea

585
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.800
that to go just look for him, and and we

586
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.280
thought we saw somebody in the forest, so that's why

587
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.760
we went towards him, but it was really our towels

588
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.480
just hanging up on the on some branches kind of

589
00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:00.559
like they're trying. It's weird. That's why we thought with

590
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.320
a selshold. There was a man made lake there where

591
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:08.880
it was like chlorinated, and my friends were told me

592
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.159
they remember when they were swimming. Their sister was on

593
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:18.440
the beach and they seen a guy like literally standing

594
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.400
like he had his face up against her back of

595
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.639
her head, but she didn't know, so that's why they

596
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.440
kind of thought maybe it was him. But I'm like,

597
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.159
why would somebody target just us? There was other campers.

598
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.719
There's so many other campers. I'm sorry to be all

599
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:42.840
over the place, but I remember too the site next

600
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:48.239
to us, these two guys came their new new campers

601
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.280
and they were kind of bragging, like because they heard

602
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.519
about what was going on. And I don't know if

603
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.599
they were just full of it, but they're like, oh, yeah,

604
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.440
we're ex Green Beret. We're gonna set up a line

605
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.880
from our tent up into the forest and whatever it is,

606
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.960
you know, we'll trip the line and we'll know and

607
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.079
then we'll go investigate. What was really weird is he

608
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:14.719
said they're going to be there a week. The next

609
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.440
day they're gone, So I don't know. I don't know

610
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.199
what was up with that. I don't know if something

611
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.400
was in there. Met some of them all night and

612
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.039
they got super spooke that they just moved because we

613
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.679
don't know if they went to another site or what.

614
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.239
But they're like, yeah, we're going to be here a week.

615
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.199
If anything's out there, we're going to find it, because

616
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.719
you know, we're ex military, and they're gone. The next day,

617
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.719
I was like what, Like, I was like, where did

618
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.639
these guys go? I thought they're and we just we

619
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.320
couldn't figure it out why. We asked the rangers too,

620
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.559
like why where where did those guys go? And they're like,

621
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:51.519
I don't know, they just left.

622
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:57.599
It's so interesting because, like so listeners know, I like

623
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.920
to look at maps usually, and if you look, so

624
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.079
this is Lake Elmo Park Reserve, which is like two

625
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.400
thousand acres, and you can look at it a few

626
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.679
different ways, because you can look at it one way

627
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.360
it's on the east side of Minneapolis, but then if

628
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.840
you look at the whole map, it's kind of in

629
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:21.360
the area where there's a part where Minneapolis starts to

630
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:26.119
not be Minneapolis and goes into like that driftless area eventually,

631
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:35.000
which is your southeast Minnesota and then your western Wisconsin

632
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.639
and northeast Iowa, and that area is like crazy for

633
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.199
bigfoot sightings. So I know there's a few different ways

634
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.760
definitely to look at this, but it's so so interesting.

635
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:47.960
What year did you say this was?

636
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.880
Again, probably I think like two thousand and two thousand

637
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.880
and one in the summertime.

638
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.519
Okay, two thousand interesting, two thousand and.

639
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.119
One, But yeah, it didn't look that park didn't look

640
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.599
like that before back then. Now it's there's so much more.

641
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.360
And where I sent you the screenshot was where we were.

642
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:14.760
You could see the tree line and then behind it

643
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:19.559
there's that lake. I do remember one time me and

644
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.760
his little brother were taking a little hike and we

645
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.039
heard splashing in that lake and I just jokingly kind

646
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.519
of yelled out, helped me, and you could hear a

647
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.960
real low, creepy help me, and we didn't go help.

648
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.760
We were in. It scared us a wow, but it

649
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.760
was super weird how you and my friend was like,

650
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.519
his little brother was like, do you hear that? As

651
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.559
I said, no, but I heard it, and it just yeah,

652
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.039
it kind of freaked us both out because we weren't

653
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.199
expecting that. And yeah, it was just a lot of

654
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.800
a lot of weird stuff happened that whole month at

655
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.679
the with that campsite. It was so weird.

656
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:08.079
It's it's it's extremely weird, and it's it's we've already

657
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.679
said we're going to talk about a different time, but

658
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.840
I do want to skirt around it a little bit,

659
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.239
just because so you said, this is two thousand and one,

660
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.679
This is in the middle of the time of that

661
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:26.000
ninety seven to two thousand and eight era, right, yeah, yeah, So.

662
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:30.119
But it was nowhere near where I was doing the hunting, nowhere,

663
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.599
not even okay, not even close to where it was.

664
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.239
So you well you mean like geographic area, got it?

665
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.800
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I was more closer to where I

666
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.400
was doing that hunting, was more closer to Minneapolis. Even

667
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:49.440
that area was kind of residentially. So this is weird

668
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.559
how close that they really do come to residential areas.

669
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.559
No, I agree, And you know, a lot of this

670
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.719
is probably the thing I get the most pushback about

671
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:07.880
is the episodes where it's like it's like northern Portland

672
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.159
and or it's southwest Portland and people are like, well,

673
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.239
it's so close to Portland or Minneapolis or put in

674
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.639
the big city name, and people need to realize that

675
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.840
it can happen because these cities get larger and larger

676
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:30.000
and they push into areas or the creatures where there beforehand,

677
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:31.960
and then the city just grew around it. I mean,

678
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.079
You've got, for example, an area down Florida called the

679
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:39.719
Green Swamp, and it's an extremely active area, but it

680
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:45.079
is surrounded on all sides by a lot of housing.

681
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.559
And I don't think it's out of the question that

682
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.920
stuff like this can happen in an area such as

683
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.199
what you're presenting, and you don't know exactly what happened,

684
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.920
but it's just such an interesting story.

685
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.519
Yeah, because now, I mean now, I live in Portland, Oregon,

686
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.920
so I've been here since twenty seventeen, and even like

687
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.519
I live in southwest Portland. But if you really think

688
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.039
about it and you look at it, there's a lot

689
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.440
of thick forests here, like all over Portland. And it

690
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.400
wouldn't surprise me because I see coyotes, I see foxes,

691
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:25.400
you know, I see a family of foxes, all of them,

692
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.599
see the pups and the parents. They're always chilling on

693
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.440
the road. Like you know, people think that these things

694
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.559
don't live in the city, but they do.

695
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.039
Yeah, absolutely, I get. I mean I've gotten more than

696
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:42.960
a few reports, probably two or three from you know

697
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.920
how North Portland has like that big wooded area up there.

698
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.920
If you look on a map, there's like it's uh

699
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:55.320
northwest Portland. There's an area that's it's got a lot green.

700
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.559
I've gotten a few people that have submitted weird stuff

701
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.119
from that area, like sightings and stuff. So you never know,

702
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:03.840
you know, but.

703
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.280
Yeah, that area, Yeah, forest park. Yeah, I'm sure they're

704
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:13.000
there because it's a huge foresty park right along the

705
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:15.679
loved to Columbia.

706
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.519
You moved out to the Pacific Northwest? Is it a

707
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.119
thing where now you're kind of in the thick of it.

708
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:24.239
Are you still into it out there or you kind

709
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.360
of got away from it?

710
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.719
No, I haven't done anything since two thousand and eight. Sure,

711
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:34.760
when I was in Minnesota, I just kind of twenty

712
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.119
twelve I moved to Texas. I was down there, I

713
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:43.119
was in West Texas. I wasn't really into it down there.

714
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.760
I don't even think it lives in the desert, but

715
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.960
I don't know where it could hide. There's nothing out

716
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.840
there but red sand or a dirt and cactuses. So

717
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.800
the only thing that I saw out there was what

718
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.960
was weird was I saw cougar, which you are told

719
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.440
me they haven't been in that area for decades, so

720
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.679
I don't think they believed me. But what was weird

721
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:08.880
as I saw out our rest up.

722
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:12.079
Yeah, they're never really going to say that it's in

723
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.320
the area though, from mining from what I picked up,

724
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:18.480
I mean, they're just they usually will not say it's there.

725
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.079
Did you ever after that, you know, let's say, when

726
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.719
you got a little older, did you ever do any

727
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:32.840
research to see if there had been other sightings or

728
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.000
people that have had similar things happen in the Lake

729
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:37.840
Elmo area.

730
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.039
Yeah, I've looked it up. There's nothing.

731
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:45.480
Okay, Well, it'd be interesting to see if someone you know,

732
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.639
reaches out from this. See, yeah, I had something happen,

733
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:52.360
but it was like twenty years difference, But you never know.

734
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.079
The Other thing I wanted to comment on is the

735
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.320
monkey photo up in the Apostle Islands, which there really

736
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.320
cool looking islands. I mean, I've seen pictures of them before,

737
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:08.519
but uh, man, if you ever find that photo, dude,

738
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.719
or your sister ever finds it, wow.

739
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.760
Yeah, it's something picture for the DNR that takes care

740
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.079
of the Apostle Islands. And they said, yeah, it looks

741
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.760
like the islands. They said, there's no monkeys up here.

742
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:30.239
It's like, okay, whatever. And then I contacted somebody I

743
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.880
forgot what what first nation tribe I think they were,

744
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.039
I don't remember, but they told me that there's like

745
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:42.719
a myth of like folklore of like a beast that

746
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.760
looks like Bigfoot that lives on the islands or just

747
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.320
kind of lives in Lake Superior.

748
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:48.400
Well there you go, man.

749
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.840
But you know, they said they don't know if it

750
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:53.559
looks like a monkey or what. They just said it

751
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.559
was like a beast of some some sort. But I

752
00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:58.719
think it was the omission Abby, I don't know, Okay,

753
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.599
but or SHASHAWNI I don't know. But I didn't think

754
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.199
that they were from that part of Minnesota. I thought

755
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.079
was more like like northern Minnesota is like more like

756
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.320
o Jibwe, and and like, I know there's a lot

757
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:19.760
of like Sue, but yeah, I think there's Shawne's out. Yeah,

758
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.639
but I don't know because I'm met a Native guy.

759
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.960
His name was Sean, but he spelled his se joan

760
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:28.840
for Concili so I don't know, it's weird.

761
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:33.360
Gotcha, Sean, It's it's an interesting account. It's one of

762
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.679
those that I like because it usually leads to other

763
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:41.480
things and then hopefully it'll lead to maybe some some

764
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:47.519
closure for yourself. Maybe we can get some more experiences

765
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.079
out out of this area. Maybe people can reach out,

766
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.159
send me an email, or they can even put it

767
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.480
in the comments on the YouTube video if they've experienced

768
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.679
other things in the area. We're also up in the

769
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.920
Apostle Islands too. If you've had a big experience up

770
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.320
there you saw something that looks like a monkey, that would.

771
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.280
Be cool too. You know, a lot of Alan's are

772
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:09.079
like there's houses on them on some of them, but

773
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:10.679
a lot of them are kind of deserted.

774
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:16.000
Oh interesting. Okay, all right, well there you go. But Sean,

775
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:18.440
it's been it's been a pleasure of chatting with you today,

776
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:23.159
and thank you for sharing some really interesting things that

777
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.519
happened in that Lake Elmo area.

778
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.840
Yeah, it was really weird. I wish I knew what

779
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.400
it was because the law enforcement never told us anything.

780
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:39.280
They just said they can't find anything, and that was that,

781
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.079
and the park told us don't ever come back. Really

782
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.239
and they told his parents that he said, they don't

783
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:49.760
want us. They don't want them there anymore because they

784
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:50.400
thought it was us.

785
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