We found Sasquatch on Sauvie Island!

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0:43 Welcome to big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode, and if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more big for Society to listen to every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes, head on over to Patreon dot com forward slash the big for Society, and now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Colleen from Oregon. Colleens an individual that I've been talking to off and on to try to get on the show. And Colleen's had some very interesting things happened that she's going to share with us today. But thank you so much for coming on the show and welcome Colleen.

1:43 Thank you. Jeremiah. Basically, I grew up out here. I was born in Oregon City, grew up punting, pushing campaign and hiking with my dad and my family, and feel really comemultiple out in the woods. I never really thought about it too much. Bigfoot was just kind of like an emblem, like a character like Smoky the Bear or something like that, So I never really thought twice about it. On twenty twenty, I was living on Savi Island. It's like a big river island that's really close to Portland, Oregon.

2:28 It's on the Columbia River and it's like thirty five square miles. It's like it's a really pig highland. I didn't know how big it was when I started living on there, and it was really special to be living out there because it's like a big agricultural community and it's known for having beaches that people like to go to, and the locals kind of suffer a little bit because it's a bit overused under fund did and you know, they kind of suffer a little bit for having people come out there and just tear it all up basically.

3:10 But during the shutdown, I kind of felt lucky to be out there. It was just me and my partner and our dog, and we had like this double wide right on the river in this little trailer court really, and so we There's a lot of areas all over the island that are privately owned. This they're in a trust with the state and the Oregon Department Official Wildlife, so they do open up these interior areas for just a part of the year, less than half of the year.

3:55 It's open for people to go out and spend some time, you know, respectfully. And so we'd go out for walks all the time, take Kansas to the dog and one of these spots I call the Savannah because it was just like big opens to me, grassland and some boats have their cattle out there, and there's some lakes and you know, really nice stands of trees and it's just really pretty. So it's only a two miles down the road from where we were living. So we hop in the car and, uh, we're going to go out there.

4:39 And it's like September's right before they're gonna shut down the island basically for this hunting season, and so we're just trying to get out there a little bit before you know, we're not allowed to be out there. And we turn off the main road onto a dirt road and it's kind of a long drive to the cattle guard that we got to go over, which is on the dyke for the Columbia River. It's like a straight away and we're cruising down at about like twenty miles an hour because we kick up a lot of dust.

5:21 And I'd say that the stretch is about half mile or three quarter mile before you get to the end where you enter the pasture land, and getting towards the end, me and my partner were just kind of rambling along and about sixty feet maybe yards. I'm not really the best with this, but there was a black individual that came out from what I thought was a trail at the time, and he was crossing kind of diagonally to a access road for fields. They have, like all these cornfields because they're trying to bring in migratory birds and fear and whatever else. So there's all these access roads to these adjacent fields. So he was crossing, you know, diagonally kind of towards us and continuing on this access road.

6:34 And so when he enters our vision from behind, you know, kind of some tall trees and BlackBerry bushes growing into the trees. You know, we didn't say a word to each other. We were just looking at this and trying to understand what we were looking at. And when he steps out into the gravel road, he looks at us, and it almost seems like he's not expecting us to be there. But he doesn't change his posture, he doesn't speed up, he doesn't you know, he looked right at me and continued crossing the road. And my partner at the time, he's like slowing down obviously because someone's crossing.

7:34 And I don't remember what I said, if I said anything, but we slowed down and we're just kind of in shock. I think and so as we continue to roll up to the access road, you know, we stop to see if we can see him walking down further. And that's where we saw him, about fifty again, possibly sixty feet down, and there's the BlackBerry brambles. It's a hedge that's kind of a barrier for I believe Cornfield that's beyond it, and he's standing there waiting for us, almost and he's and so we look at each other again and we just sit there for a few seconds, and then he dips into the hedge and he's out of you. And we never talked about it. I think that our relationship was getting twenty twenty pretty hard. We ended up, you know, splitting up the following February, So I wonder if that was a part of it. Our communication was just kind of shot to pieces already, and so we weren't or how I feel about it is like it took me

9:05 years to digest just that small window of time that that experience was until I was just kind of like, yeah, that's that happened. I saw him with someone, And so it wasn't until the end of last year that I kind of just started thinking about it again. So, you know, three, almost four years later, I'm just kind of like, yeah, okay, so so it's all bigfoot. And I hadn't talked to anyone about it, not a soul, and I was sitting at like a local bar, and I kind of threw it out there and yeah, people were like, okay, okay, calling sure. But after that was when I was still having having drinks and I after the bar closed. One night, I invited to couple my friends up. I just got a cat and I was trying to socialize them. He was a really cute little kitten, and they came up and we sipped some wine and I was like, Okay, these are my friends and I'm just gonna share it with them, and I told him the story, and one

10:36 friend he didn't say anything. Really, he didn't he wasn't critical, and he didn't have any experience himself. He just kind of listened. And then my other friend made me like repeat it like three times, and each time that I kind of ran over it again, I could tell that he was very skeptical of it, and I was like, sure, you know, this is I should I totally should expect this, you know. And then on the third run through the story, He's like, what do you mean he was waiting for you?

11:17 And I was kind of like, yeah, like what do I mean? You know, I don't really know what I mean by that, Like why was he why was he still standing there waiting looking at us? And at any rate, he never was very satisfied with anything that I had to say to like clarify my experience or anything like that. But a few months later, he was van living and sometimes he'd stay in a French property on the island, which wasn't far from where we were at. And uh, I was working nights, so I was up usually and he calls me in the middle of the night and he sounds really shook, and he's just saying, I am so sorry that I made you explain yourself. I'm sorry I made you feel like you were lying. But there's that it's walking around my van, and I am so freaked out right now, and I just, you know, I just was like, oh, you know, some people they go world deep, and you know, and you know there's some some folks just roaming a little bit to check the

12:51 property lines. They could be curious about you being on your friend's property. You know. I just tried to I wanted to calm them down a little bit because I didn't I didn't want him to be scared like that, you know, even though I did feel this kind of like, so somebody believes me, you know, I don't sound so crazy now to this person, and that I found a little bit of comfort in. But that around that time, since I was kind of trying to you know, wrap my head around that experience from twenty twenty, I got on the internet and I really didn't go very deep.

13:31 I just found some Reddit threads and I you know, didn't see any other sightings in that area, and but I heard about like tree knocking and the structures and stuff, and I was like, ah, yeah, that's you know, that doesn't really that doesn't really apply to my experience. And I didn't really get the tree knocking. But we fast forward to about a month ago, maybe maybe six weeks ago, going on six weeks ago. I had been really struggling with making in meet and I had had a living situation completely fall to pieces, and I was just I kind of had it, and I was going to go for a walk and clear my head, add on some trails out outside of Scappoose and I go out on.

14:49 These trails big, so society will be right back after these messages. It's really nice, but it's hot lately. So I could hear some water below, and I was like, man, why don't these trails just go down to this little creek that's a lane, you know. I think I could make it down to this little creek, you know. So I go off trail and I get down to this cute little creek and it's this little open area and I spent some time down there, and I'm like, okay, so I should probably get back out before it starts getting dim out here. And I looked the way I came and I was like, man, that was kind of a little hairer than it looked. Maybe maybe if I just follow along this creek a little bit, there'll be an their way up that won't be as as rough, you know.

16:04 So I'm kind of following a little deer trail along this creek and it starts kind of getting you know, full of stinging nettles, and I'm like, okay, this is this is kind of ridiculous, but you know, it would be even more ridiculous to turn around, you know, Like I just I felt like I knew like how I'd get back to the road that my my car was parked on. I never I never felt lost. I never admitted to myself that I was at any rate. And so I'm getting out there, and I'm seeing tracks for animals in the mud and mostly deer and raccoon, and I know that there's homesteads out there. I'm I'm I'm half expecting to just like bust through somebody's you know, rhododendrons into their backyard, which would have been embarrassing, but I was, you know, I was open to that at this moment, you know. And I kind of come to this point where the creek really becomes thick brush and there's some big down trees, and I just kind of take a minute, and I don't really think about what am I going to do next? You know, which way do I think is best to go? And I decided that I needed to go up this ridge. I was like, I know there's a road up there. I think it's

17:36 I think it's like forty feet up. I can see it kind of flattens out, and I bet you that's a road. And so I'm going up and I'm feeling absolutely ridiculous. Like you just hear stories of hikers getting lost and getting choppered out, and I'm just always like thinking that these folks are easy. Now and here I am, uh, kind of getting into some really thick stuff, but still not admitting that I'm completely lost. I know that I know that there's a way out, and that there's property, there's there's something I'm going to come across, you know.

18:18 So I get up to where my vision, uh, my visual perception stopped, and it did level out, but it continued up again, and so I'm just I'm so exhausted by this point, but I gotta do it. I gotta go up and I, you know, get up this ridge and that's got some trees so I can kind of take some breathers here and there, and I'm like, oh, I can see it. I can see the road, okay, And I getting this this like anxious push to get to it. And I stepped through a pile of a wood and oh, what's that. It's hornets. I stepped into a nest of ground hornets underneath this wood pile and they were all over me. And I'm allergic to bees.

19:26 I never carry a shot kit, but I should, because I mean, they told me that if I was to get into anaphylectic shock again, it would happen faster. I probably have about fifteen minutes if I was to ever get stung again. That happened a long time ago when I was a child. But when this is happening to me, I just try to run, and I'm not very good at running. At this point, I'm exhausted and I'm screaming, screaming. I can't even hear myself, but I know I'm screaming, and they're just staying on me. They're in my hair there there, in my clothes, they're like in all the tender underarm areas or just what a mess. And I probably had gone about one hundred feet like along the ridge, and finally I just laid down and most of them had left me alone. There was a couple of diehards, but I had just I just was like, okay, okay, okay.

20:44 So so I'm just got to sit here and I got to figure out if I'm if I'm gonna go on to inflective shock here, you know, kind of waiting to see if I have any breathing issues, and just kind of get myself a minute, and I want to slow my heart rate down if I can't, and I managed to do that a little bit, and I come to the conclusion that, you know, I'm I'm not going into an eplectic shock. And how lucky I am I to be able to get up and step onto this logging road that was three feet from me, Like I just step out onto this road, and I'm just I can't believe that I just climbed up that thing. I look down and I can't even see the creek anymore, you know, I can't even hear the creek anymore. And and I'm looking at this road and I decide, okay, like, let's go to the left. I think, I think that this is the way that I want I need to go.

21:57 I start walking and it wasn't long before I came to where they had bulldozed a berm, and I think it was going to go back down into this ridge line. So I just kind of was like, all right, I don't think I should go this way. This isn't this isn't the answer. So I turn around and I start betracing my steps and I come to where I came out and continued and there was a split, and I had been observing a lot of scat on the logging road, which was pretty overgrown in some areas with BlackBerry brambles and other small brush and I was seeing, now that looks like black bear scat there and apps that's uh mountain lion, okay, And there's there's a lot of it.

23:04 And then there was a huge, like more than a foot across pile, and I was like, what they were all full of BlackBerry seeds, you know. And I just kind of thought to myself, youse, guys are probably pretty tired e blackberries right about now, you know, just and so I decided to I made my decision on what road I was going to take at the split, and about twenty feet into that, into that part of the road, I hear behind me a click click clock and it's like I felt like I was along. It was like a long haired cat that was all poofed out, like I felt like like I just felt like a spiky like I don't know how to describe how all these hairs that I don't have, we're standing up all around me and I look over my shoulder, but I didn't stop, and there was nothing but but I could tell from where the sound came from. It was just next to

24:39 the road where I had passed twice, and the the logging road made up this nice little flat space, but the ridge continued, you know, so the sound was above my head and I just kind of was like, oh, because the ridge continues at a really steep incline, but that was not a woodpecker. And I just was at the I think that I was in an already in a moderate on its way to severe state of shock from the hornet's nest. And this happened, and I was just kind of like, I don't know, like what this being is expecting for a response from me right now, but I'm just kind of fucking sure. You know, of course this is going to happen now. This is when it's going to happen, is when everything's still completely out of control. And I was really lucky because the sun was beginning to go down and I had gone in

26:10 this hike around like ten in the morning, you know, and I'm looking at the sun figuring what time it was, trying to figure out my position and how much time do I have before this place gets really dark and just more scary because of that than it's ever been before for me in my life. And I came across some trees that were down on this logging road that I guess hadn't been surveyed in quite some time. But it was, you know, trees up by their routes, you know, stacked over each other blocking the road which I was coming out. That's kind of seems recent, these trees, like there's still alive even you know, like and I don't really remember us having you know, really strong weather in any sense in this area, so that's kind of interesting.

27:16 It took a while for me to like start feeling like I wasn't being observed, because that's how I felt, and that instance, it took probably like a half a mile a mile before I was like, oh, I can kind of just breathe a little easier. But I just was. I just was keeping my pace and I didn't make any wrong turns because there was a number of splits that I came across. And I came out of these logging roads. I mean, they're supposed to be closed. I'm not supposed to be in there. I'm trespassing. I think that it might have been like Warehouser Land outside and I made it out to Dutch Canyon Road and walked out, and that's kind of the end of where that experiences.

28:24 The thing about the click click clack, you know, was that the three knocks were a very uh precise beat. They didn't they they were. It was a very tight beat, but the third was a completely different pitch, which confused They just confuses me still because I'm just like, okay, so you know, like if you take a two by four, like maybe one, maybe the wide side makes a different sound than the short side, you know, because you can't just this guy didn't didn't set something down and pick up another one, you know, to make a different pitch and sound than the other two. You know. That's the part where it just really got my attention that that something intelligent was trying to convey a point to me.

29:42 And I was pretty I don't know, I don't want to say it just fit stressed me out necessarily, but but it did. I kind of became hyper fixated on trying to understand this more. And I don't really have a lot of close friends at this point in my life, and but I'm spending time with my mom trying to build things up from the ground up here and talking to her about it.

30:24 Big for Society will be right back after these messages. And She's like, you know, he could have been trying to let you know that that was that was the right way to go, to encourage you to get out the right way, you know, And I just kind of was like, yeah, that totally could make sense. Uh you just I just can't. I can't know in that respect.

31:12 And so since that, you know, last six weeks or so, I've kind of really immersed myself and people's stories, and I, you know, kind of have a different perspective on a couple of things about living on Sauvie Island. Like I I thought that I was totally whohooing with a with an owl out there out past the tree line across from our porch, and I just felt like, you know, like a nature woman like I thought, you know, I had I had an owl friend, Like how cool is that?

32:00 And I mean I saw that owl. It came and checked me out on the beach one night, so I was sold. But every time and I was kind of like, well, where is this guy? I'm trying to where in the trees is this guy that's out here? It's always responding to me when I'm making my crappy owl call, and I kind of look at that very differently now. And then there was also a night where we had the thickest fog I've ever seen on the island, being on the river like that, and all the leaves had fallen.

32:43 This might have been after I think it was possibly after our seeing him crossing, and I was out sitting on the porch having ciders and I can hear somebody walking in the lead. He was out in front of where we park our cars, and I was like, who is this person walking in the trees over here? And I was thinking that it was somebody that was trying to have an encampment nearby and thought that there being a really thick fog would be a good time to go poke around. And I didn't like that, so I started kind of like talking. I was like, you know, you really really not a good idea for you to be poking around here. And I called my partner out and I'm just like, there's somebody walking out over here, and he's just you know, like I said, our relationship was kind of shot to pieces at that point, and there's this can of sider in my hand, and he's just kind of like, okay, all right, calling whatever, and he goes inside. He never hears anything because he doesn't even he doesn't believe me. He doesn't spend any time on the porch with me, and so it's just me and this person that I mean thirty thirty feet from me, you know. And when I talked to it, it stopped,

34:15 it was listening to me, and I was like, hey, I just I mean, you know, folks over here, they just are on the island itself, they do not take kindly to folks wandering around on properties. You're going to get hurt. You're going to get shot, you know, like you need to think about that and and be very very careful. You know. I wasn't like threatening it to shoot it or anything, but I just it needs to know that it's very dangerous to be going around people's homes like that. It's just very dangerous. And it did. It just kind of started backing up and and I think it went towards this tree line that I would wo who at from my port, and I just never put all that together ever before that. So yeah, and then there was even there was even when we go camping.

35:21 We'd always camp out on that hood and we'd go out to twenty four to forty six out past Ripplebrook Ranger Station, and we had this spot called Big Fan. And this was way back in the day when there wasn't a lot of people out there ever, and the ranger would come and try to see firewood and warning, did not have your fire too big and some of the big trees out there. And it's right on the Collar Wash where it splits off into the Clackamas River. It's a really beautiful site and it's big enough to hold a couple of Fan families. So one year we went with another family and that night my friend's dad he's like, so, you know about the mountain men, right, And I'm like, oh, okay, you know this is some campfire stuff. Sure. I just think it was twelve at the time. And he's like, yeah, there's mountain men out here.

36:29 And then my dad's standing there and I think he's trying to mitigate where he thinks this is going, because we never talked about Bigfoot, you know, more than Harry and the Henderson's you know, it was. And my dad's like, there are some men that come back from Vietnam that did not adjust to society and they prefer to stay out in the woods. And my friend's dad, I think, takes his cue and kind of let's up a little bit, and he's like, no, they come into your camp at night when everyone's asleep, and they just take some beer and some hot dogs, just enough for a snack, you know.

37:13 And I was like, oh, okay, sure, so I stayed up. I stayed up, and I waited. I made sure everybody was asleep before I let myself fall asleep, and I got up first as well, and I went and I looked in that cooler and sure, sure enough, there was less stuff in there. And I was like, man, I didn't hear anything come into camp, you know. So it just really fascinated me that there's people people lean around me and I can't hear, see or be aware of them at all. It just it just totally blew my mind.

37:55 What I didn't know was that was probably one of the last times that our family went camp out there together. My dad's mental health kind of started to deteriorate, and you know, having teenagers just most taken wearing our parents out, and we just never did it again. But I remember we had gone back to that spot yearly now for I sent up my tent I did share with my sister and brother of kint like I'm just kind of lay here for a minute, and I like laid there and I could just hear the trees, and I was like, man, it just like it just feels like they remember me, like like like we're familiar to the trees, you know.

38:42 And I have like these these thoughts about like you know, when people pass away, you know, they kind of after a certain point, they they kind of become more elemental and they come into the forests and some of it's dark and some of it's not, you know, but it's just it's just so beautiful, big and sacred, you know. And and I just always thought that I'm a really weird kid like to you know, like I didn't I wouldn't even share those thoughts with anyone, you know, because I was that weird kid, and I wasn't trying to perpetuate it more than it already was that way, you know, I wanted to be normal so bad and and yeah, like that was that's basically all the the past, and now we're living in this remote area an unincorporated land at a butt blm land with transmission lines wooden transmission lines.

39:54 There's a reservoir nearby with a preserve forests around it, and behind our property the forest goes all the way to the coast for forty miles. And I don't want to go for walks by myself. Me and my mom will walk when she's up for it, and we'll just take a little walk down logging road down our neighbor's property. And so, you know, last week, we take the dog and even my cat with me. That time. Billy he's a year and a half and he wanted to follow us, and you know, I totally am into that that he was freaked out about the forest. You know, it's pretty overwhelming for a little guy. And we're only like one hundred and fifty feet from the house, and my mom got the dog and she's a little further up, and I'm trying to coax Billy because he's timid. When I look back at Billy, he was frozen. He was locking eyes with something, and my Mom's continuing me to walk, and so I'm like, oh, I better go pick him up, you know, I'm go get him, and I walk up and as soon as I come close enough to him, he's like, yep, let's get out of here. He starts locking back, and I go to pick him up, and

41:28 I can hear a movement on either side of this logging road. And I finished picking up Billy and he's all about being held at this moment, and I can hear the tree ox and I caught three. But I went, hey, mom, and she stopped and waited for me to catch up with her. With Billy in my arms, you know, let me carry him a whole fifty feet. And I was like, ah, I thought, I here's some tree knocks there. You know, I thought I heard three. You know, what did you hear? She was like, I was, I heard four or five?

42:10 And they were gentle, they weren't. They weren't weave the slugger tree knocks and whatever. We continue, and I wanted to check out this kind of overgrown road that was pretty near where our stopping point was last time. And I was thinking about leaving a special rock or something, but I didn't bring one with me. So we go down this little road and I thought I saw visual movement, but whatever, possibly a deer. We stand there a little bit, and then there's you know, a rapid like five knock and we're just like, okay, you know, let's go ahead and hit back. And then there was a ground squirrel that started like calling super agro like yoked out squirrel out there, just calling on when we started heading out.

43:05 Now it's just kind of gods, that's pretty interesting. So yeah, growing up out here and living out here is really great. But all of a sudden, very recently, there's just like this whole new kind of shift in my perception for it, and it's been pretty challenging to adjust to it because I need to just go to work, you know, and it's kind of you know, you have like this mind blowing experience and then you just got to go do some really mundane stuff. How could you do anything else when this is you know, has like so much meaning behind it that means so much other stuff is real and true, and it's just kind of shatters your you know, agreed upon understanding of your reality. And I just, you know, there's a part of me that was like, man, that's in a way it can be really scary. And this is the kind of stuff in the twentieth century that you know, people would try to put these folks into a cage so you can observe them and feel safe, and you know they need to be protected. They don't.

44:32 They're in a lot of danger. All these fires and people literally trying to make history and some gruesome way. It's pretty scary. So I just kind of worry about them now. So, Colin, you definitely have been through a lot. Thank you for sharing that entire account. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions about different things? Sure? First off, I want to say I'm glad you're okay. In general, you I'm I'm very glad you're okay. Keep keep being okay, all right. Yeah, So it feels like there was a point where you'd said that you may have had a visual of something, But the way you were talking about it feels like you may have talked yourself out of it. Maybe like when our logical I say, like when our logical side of our brain kind of talks too loud and it over talks our big foot side.

45:45 Do you remember anything about what you think you may have seen or any details about that that time? So you're talking about walking along with my mom a week ago. So yeah, so I had looked down this little road and it's completely covered in green, you know, it's but it's really wide, and I figure there might have been a road to an old homestead. It's very level and it and it looks like the creek. It even has like a covert, uh so that the road continues over the creek. And I just kind of was curious if the road turned a little.

46:43 Bit big, so society will be right back after these messages. So I had stepped into the road so that all of that vision vision was opened to me. And as I looked down, it was like a a blur of and it was like maybe a little black, maybe a little can and it was just to the right, which there was no rushing through the brush. The I mean the forest floor over here isn't the thickest brush in all places. Sometimes you can see pretty far as far as like you know, forest floors are concerned, but in this area there there was it was pretty thick, you know, and there's the creek right there, so you really just couldn't vanish without making a sound. And even like when you alerted her, because we've come across to your quite

48:16 often and they freeze and they're perfectly fine walking eze with you, but they'd rather just kind of stay still as long as you don't move towards them. And they'll do that until you move out of out of their visual spectrum. En not that they'll move off or you'll get them spooked, and then they'll they'll make noise, they'll do their little prants hop away and that is a very particular sound. And there was none of that, absolutely none of that. But the sounds that we heard, the five tree knocks, which were softer, so they weren't alerting everyone within a mile and a half. They were alerting us or someone closer to them perhaps, And it wasn't necessarily threatening, but it was. But it was definitely like a very thorough acknowledgment, and it would have been in the general direction that this movement that I saw was going in. You know, when we came back down the road on the way home, I was like, you know, so I know I heard moving on both sides, but I don't know what Billy was looking at, and the five tree knocks came from that side of the road,

49:49 and I was like, I want to make extra pay extra attention because they had they've done some logging nearby, and they got a bulldozers busting up the ground on the road, so it's much easier to leave an imprint, so I was trying to pay a little extra attention. We didn't see anything, but certainly our Calhoun Ricky was certainly very interested in some areas. It was alerting in other areas, and you know, and later that night, you know, my mom's husband went to bed and so I was like, you know, so about that, what do you think it was?

50:47 And she's like, I don't know what that was? All right, Well was it a woodpecker? She goes, no, No, that was not a bird. And I was like, yeah, that's as far as it went. But I definitely feel like this would be ideal area for an animal to live, except that we're closer and closer to more developed areas. But like I said, from here west, it's just it's just all forest. So that's wild. And that was just a week ago, and yeah, that's that's that's very interesting. Definitely keep me in the loop about that, because I mean, that could ease.

51:40 There could be other stuff that happened out there easily. So yeah, I feel like our I asked my mom about our property that we're on, and it's like how long has this been a home? You know? And the property goes back in record to like nineteen oh five, so this wasn't recently settled, you know, which I would think, would you know, you would I would I would expect more disruption if that were the case, If you know, if you had recently encroached on areas that may have been considered somebody else's, that they would be more apt to being a little bit more upset about being disturbed.

52:35 But from what I understand, you know, like these these these folks out here, you know, I think that they're when they showed up, so were these homes were here. So that's kind of like this understanding that they both exist. And just yeah, I'm terribly interested too, you know, continue to go for walks, and but I don't want to do it alone. And uh and I just I do. I just want to be really thoughtful because like I said before, I just you know, I want them to stay mysterious in a way. I don't. I think that it's necessary for you know, them to be completely understood inside and out, and every little feature of them need to be documented. And you know, I don't think that that's necessary at all, and and I and I just I'm just so worried about them in that way.

53:49 Yeah, that's that's that's very interesting viewpoint. And I can I can definitely see what what you're saying for sure. Do you have any close neighbors to that property. Right, Yeah, we do. There's we're at the end of a dirt road that's off of another dirt road, off another dirt road, and there's folks right across from the end of our road from us. And then there's another stead on our road that I would say is like two hundred feet or so from us, like an acre away, and they're the ones that have just recently cleared some of this area near where we live. And I think there's even another further neighbor. And their family has large areas of land divided between their family members and they log from time to time too, but I haven't really gotten to know any of them. What's interesting is that, like when we get down to the main turn off to get onto uh the main paved road on that corner is a homestead and they have a wood carving of UH they put right there, you know, So it's

55:24 it's pretty curious. I wouldn't know how to from from what I understand, you know, we look like uh Portlander's basically, so even though her husband grew up around this area, you know, me showing up and my mom, you know, we're you know, these invaders from an urban area that isn't really well looked upon, uh by a large amount of people over a wide area. And so I wouldn't even know how I would begin to broach even a small talk conversation. I think that it would take a lot to gain anyone's confidence at all in this area too.

56:18 That's we're just kind of outsiders. But but i'd love I would love to though. Yeah, I mean, it's it's one of those things where it's easier said than done, right because it's it's it feels like if I was in that situation, I would definitely want to first know my neighbors, and especially if I was looking in a big foot in that situation and one of them has a big, like carved bigfoot, I mean, it's like, come on, you got to right, But again, it's easier said than done. So I don't know if I been around the situation. I think that from time to time there's like some sort of a pot luck maybe just because there's some ranch land, and you know, some of these families go back, you know. I think you know too. After the Indian Wars, a lot of the folks settled out here. The soldiers they got some nice picks of land out here before it became settled, and so a lot of these families have been here ever since. And so I think that it would be really cool if I would definitely go and try to socialize and see if I could mention or admire the big folk sculpture and see where it led.

57:51 So I got the idea, Okay, here's what you're gonna do. So you the next time they have the like pot luck or whatever. Yeah, you make cookies that are in the shape of a bigfoot. I can do it. It's like a conversational piece type deal. I don't know I could do that. There he is, I hear. Him, yeah, wild, Yeah he's a knucklehead. What I was going to ask is, going back to when you lived on the island and you had the sighting, was it close enough that you could or do you remember any details about the face or just details about it in general that you know, made you kind of think like, oh that that's weird or that is like how they always say it is or it's not. It's different.

58:59 No clothes. Obviously I made eye contact with it, so I but it was all black and I was I would say it was six and a half or seven feet. It didn't I didn't get a really good look at the hands or I didn't even look at its feet. And even though I was looking right at its face and I mean coming towards it, even though we slowed down quite a bit, it was the only thing I was seeing, and I still didn't get like any more definition.

59:39 It was just kind of all in this mess of black, and I would I felt like the shape of its head wasn't too cone like. I felt like it was more rounded, but perhaps was a bit higher, you know. I think that it almost looked normal because some people wear their hair higher up on their head like that, you know, So it didn't even that didn't even visually seem like too wildly unhuman, I mean unhuman to me at all. Big for society will be right back after these messages, and I.

1:00:36 Just kind of gone back over it and over it, and I think it had to have heard us coming down this gravel road. Why would it do that? You know? And again you're talking to my mom and she's like, you know, it could have been a young adult and it had been, you know, corralled by its parents tell him that, no, you can't do that, No you can't do that. And it's like finding its own range out there, you know, trying to do its own thing. Not sure why, you know, the previous generations were so paranoid about people, you know, and because it didn't seem afraid, it's almost like it wanted to be seen, which I just boggles my mind. I don't get it at all. And so, I mean, I don't really speak with my partner of that time very much. He started a new relationship and I hope he has success, and so I just try to leave him alone. But I was like, if I'm gonna go as far as to talk to you, you Jeremiah, you know, I'll go ahead and reach out. So I so I did, and we were texting and I was like, hey,

1:02:08 I was gonna ask you a question, and he's like, go ahead, and I'm like, do you remember seeing Bigfoot? And he's like, uh no, I mean was it up north? Was it south? Because we were outdoors a lot and he's from the Olympic Peninsula and uh, and I just gave him the the details of it, the synapse, and he goes, I do remember that, And I was just like, okay, you know, like it doesn't really do anything, It really doesn't change anything. But it again just kind of like when my friend, you know, apologized for being so intense about my story and then you know, kind of being like, I'm I paulogize about that. It just kind of gave me this like comfort in being believed.

1:03:07 So yeah, absolutely, I mean, it's always good to have someone else on your side when you've experienced something that's out of the ordinary like that. I can definitely get that who broke eye contact first when you had eye contact with it, I do. Believe that it did, or it might have just gone out of view. But when we pulled up and came to a stop, when we could see him again in this like hedgerow, he had stopped and was waiting and looked and at me. But I mean my partner was right in line with me, so I would imagine that he may have felt similar that he also was talking eyes with this you know person basically is how it feels, you know. And there was like this just moment that lasted probably four seconds or so, but felt like an extended amount of time before it ducked into the hedges.

1:04:31 And then, you know, after my friend was being critical and saying, well, what do you mean by it was waiting for you? He kept asking that over and I was like, I kind of felt silly, like it was waiting for me, Like what do I mean? Well, what I think was actually happiness. It was trying to make sure we weren't going to turn down that access road, that we weren't going to come and try to get a better look at it. That's what I think makes sense, you know. And after it realized that we weren't turning down that road, I mean, there's there's no barrier from us to do it, but but I would have felt like it was disrespectful. That's an access road for some someone's field. You know, I'm not trying to go after it onto somebody's private property to that extent, but I know some people would. So it was, you know, worried about it a little bit.

1:05:24 What was the main thing that you noticed that made you give it a kind of a classification of something that was human. When I looked at this, I never thought about an ape. I never thought about a monkey. I never thought of any sort of primate that I've known of like that didn't it didn't enter my mind in one in any way. Like it looked like a hairy person. And I tried really hard to like crank it, and it took me years of digesting it myself quietly before I could just say it out loud that that was a hairy person.

1:06:15 That was that was a bigfoot that was maybe not as large as other bigfoot, but I mean I actually recently they got you pick farms out there. Me and my sister took her son out and went very picking, and I was like, hey, what do you think about throwing the kid out in the water. She had no idea that there were beaches out there, so we did. We went and took the kid out to the beach, threw him in the water, and before we left, I took her down that very road. I wanted to show her the savannah. And as we were coming down, I'm trying to figure out where exactly it was. And it didn't come out of a foot trail. It was an access road also that it had come out of. So it was walking down these access roads, and there's wetlands in between these areas too. There's fields wetlands, and they all have like little access footpaths or you can access some of the Some are smaller for you know, four by fours, and then you have like straight up, you know, stuff for trucks. So these are straight up access roads and they don't line up completely. And so it's the last set of access roads before you really get to the end before the cattle guard. And I finally riding with my sister, I'm explaining to her. I'm letting her

1:07:47 know I had this experience as we're rolling down this road and I'm looking at I'm looking at these BlackBerry brambles, which, without trees to climb, grow into BlackBerry brambles, you know, they'll get like six or seven feet tall or so. But these were growing into trees planted as a barrier for their fields. So the tops of these BlackBerry brambles were somewhere around you know, twelve feet or more. So I just wonder about, like how when you see something in your brain really just tries to cram it into the parameters that it's used to, so you know, maybe it was considerably taller than six and a half seven feet like I originally thought when I had had the experience, and it could have been much taller because you know, there's there's no like street sign, poll at the at the corner there, or a mailbox. There's it's all just you know, wildland, tall trees and monster BlackBerry bushes. So there's a question about that in my mind.

1:09:16 Yeah, would you ever want to see you one again? I don't know. It's kind of interesting because you know, I loved Jane Goodall, and everybody you know wants to feel special, right. I don't necessarily feel special, okay, I feel like people. This isn't as a unique experience as we're sold it is, okay, but uh, you know, there's like this fantasy of like, oh, you know, we could be friends and I can help protect them or something, you know, But I think that the more I see them means that the more that they are exposed to other people, which would endanger them. So in a way, no, I don't know, you know, you know, in my heart, you know, I have like this huge love for like this region. It's not just the state of Oregon specific northwest.

1:10:27 You know. I love this landscape in such a intimate way that like growing up here, like you know, two twenty four got burnt to a crisp you know, and h when I drove out that way after they opened the road up, I cannot tell you how much it tore me to pieces. And then I couldn't even get to the camp spot to see if those trees that I felt recognized me where they or not. I think they did survive, by the way, but I haven't seen them myself since. But this is like this really deep reverence and in this this feeling of responsibility and this drive to do what I can to preserve it. And and I think to do that, you've got to let these areas be wild and protect them. And so you know, I think that my love for them overpowers this, you know, part of me to have this validate, validating experience, I'd much rather than be safe. And if I had to not ever see one again to ensure their safety, that's what I want.

1:11:47 I think that's a beautiful way to put it. And yeah, I just let's say thank you again for spending some time this afternoon. Sharing what you've experienced over the years. Colleen has been a very interesting conversation, and I appreciate you coming on today. Yeah, I appreciate you making time for me too. Thank you so much. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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1:14:03 Her and I can get on here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about it, Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've ever seen one of These things, you need to tell, because if you don't, then shame on you, you know, shame on you,