Oct. 4, 2024

We found Sasquatch on Sauvie Island!

Welcome to Bigfoot Society! In this episode, we are privileged to talk to Colleen from Oregon as she shares her extraordinary experiences with Bigfoot. Raised in Oregon City with a background in outdoor activities, Colleen recounts her first sighting...

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Season 1

Welcome to Bigfoot Society! In this episode, we are privileged to talk to Colleen from Oregon as she shares her extraordinary experiences with Bigfoot. Raised in Oregon City with a background in outdoor activities, Colleen recounts her first sighting on Sauvie Island in 2020. She details a startling encounter where a black figure, initially perceived as a human, exhibited behaviors that defied logical explanation. This led Colleen on a journey of discovery and reconsideration of other unexplained events in the area, including mysterious knocks and movements. Join us as Colleen walks us through her sightings across different locations in Oregon, from Sauvie Island to Scappoose, and reflects on her deep connection to the Pacific Northwest's wildlands and its unknown inhabitants.

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All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Colleen from Oregon. Colleens an individual that I've been

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talking to off and on to try to get on

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the show. And Colleen's had some very interesting things happened

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that she's going to share with us today. But thank

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you so much for coming on the show and welcome Colleen.

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Thank you. Jeremiah. Basically, I grew up out here. I

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was born in Oregon City, grew up punting, pushing campaign

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and hiking with my dad and my family, and feel

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really comemultiple out in the woods. I never really thought

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about it too much. Bigfoot was just kind of like

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an emblem, like a character like Smoky the Bear or

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something like that, So I never really thought twice about it.

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On twenty twenty, I was living on Savi Island. It's

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like a big river island that's really close to Portland, Oregon.

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It's on the Columbia River and it's like thirty five

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square miles. It's like it's a really pig highland. I

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didn't know how big it was when I started living

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on there, and it was really special to be living

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out there because it's like a big agricultural community and

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it's known for having beaches that people like to go to,

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and the locals kind of suffer a little bit because

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it's a bit overused under fund did and you know,

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they kind of suffer a little bit for having people

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come out there and just tear it all up basically.

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But during the shutdown, I kind of felt lucky to

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be out there. It was just me and my partner

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and our dog, and we had like this double wide

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right on the river in this little trailer court really,

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and so we There's a lot of areas all over

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the island that are privately owned. This they're in a

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trust with the state and the Oregon Department Official Wildlife,

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so they do open up these interior areas for just

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a part of the year, less than half of the year.

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It's open for people to go out and spend some time,

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you know, respectfully. And so we'd go out for walks

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all the time, take Kansas to the dog and one

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of these spots I call the Savannah because it was

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just like big opens to me, grassland and some boats

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have their cattle out there, and there's some lakes and

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you know, really nice stands of trees and it's just

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really pretty. So it's only a two miles down the

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road from where we were living. So we hop in

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the car and, uh, we're going to go out there.

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And it's like September's right before they're gonna shut down

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the island basically for this hunting season, and so we're

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just trying to get out there a little bit before

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you know, we're not allowed to be out there. And

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we turn off the main road onto a dirt road

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and it's kind of a long drive to the cattle

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guard that we got to go over, which is on

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the dyke for the Columbia River. It's like a straight

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away and we're cruising down at about like twenty miles

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an hour because we kick up a lot of dust.

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And I'd say that the stretch is about half mile

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or three quarter mile before you get to the end

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where you enter the pasture land, and getting towards the end,

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me and my partner were just kind of rambling along

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and about sixty feet maybe yards. I'm not really the

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best with this, but there was a black individual that

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came out from what I thought was a trail at

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the time, and he was crossing kind of diagonally to

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a access road for fields. They have, like all these

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cornfields because they're trying to bring in migratory birds and

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fear and whatever else. So there's all these access roads

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to these adjacent fields. So he was crossing, you know,

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diagonally kind of towards us and continuing on this access road.

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And so when he enters our vision from behind, you know,

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kind of some tall trees and BlackBerry bushes growing into

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the trees. You know, we didn't say a word to

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each other. We were just looking at this and trying

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to understand what we were looking at. And when he

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steps out into the gravel road, he looks at us,

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and it almost seems like he's not expecting us to

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be there. But he doesn't change his posture, he doesn't

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speed up, he doesn't you know, he looked right at

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me and continued crossing the road. And my partner at

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the time, he's like slowing down obviously because someone's crossing.

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And I don't remember what I said, if I said anything,

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but we slowed down and we're just kind of in shock.

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I think and so as we continue to roll up

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to the access road, you know, we stop to see

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if we can see him walking down further. And that's

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where we saw him, about fifty again, possibly sixty feet down,

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and there's the BlackBerry brambles. It's a hedge that's kind

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of a barrier for I believe Cornfield that's beyond it,

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and he's standing there waiting for us, almost and he's

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and so we look at each other again and we

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just sit there for a few seconds, and then he

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dips into the hedge and he's out of you. And

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we never talked about it. I think that our relationship

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was getting twenty twenty pretty hard. We ended up, you know,

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splitting up the following February, So I wonder if that

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was a part of it. Our communication was just kind

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of shot to pieces already, and so we weren't or

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how I feel about it is like it took me

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years to digest just that small window of time that

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that experience was until I was just kind of like, yeah,

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that's that happened. I saw him with someone, And so

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it wasn't until the end of last year that I

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kind of just started thinking about it again. So, you know, three,

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almost four years later, I'm just kind of like, yeah, okay,

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so so it's all bigfoot. And I hadn't talked to

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anyone about it, not a soul, and I was sitting

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at like a local bar, and I kind of threw

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it out there and yeah, people were like, okay, okay,

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calling sure. But after that was when I was still

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having having drinks and I after the bar closed. One night,

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I invited to couple my friends up. I just got

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a cat and I was trying to socialize them. He

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was a really cute little kitten, and they came up

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and we sipped some wine and I was like, Okay,

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these are my friends and I'm just gonna share it

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with them, and I told him the story, and one

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friend he didn't say anything. Really, he didn't he wasn't critical,

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and he didn't have any experience himself. He just kind

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of listened. And then my other friend made me like

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repeat it like three times, and each time that I

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kind of ran over it again, I could tell that

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he was very skeptical of it, and I was like, sure,

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you know, this is I should I totally should expect this,

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you know. And then on the third run through the story,

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He's like, what do you mean he was waiting for you?

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And I was kind of like, yeah, like what do

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I mean? You know, I don't really know what I

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mean by that, Like why was he why was he

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still standing there waiting looking at us? And at any rate,

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he never was very satisfied with anything that I had

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to say to like clarify my experience or anything like that.

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But a few months later, he was van living and

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sometimes he'd stay in a French property on the island,

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which wasn't far from where we were at. And uh,

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I was working nights, so I was up usually and

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he calls me in the middle of the night and

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he sounds really shook, and he's just saying, I am

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so sorry that I made you explain yourself. I'm sorry

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I made you feel like you were lying. But there's

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that it's walking around my van, and I am so

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freaked out right now, and I just, you know, I

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just was like, oh, you know, some people they go

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world deep, and you know, and you know there's some

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some folks just roaming a little bit to check the

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property lines. They could be curious about you being on

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your friend's property. You know. I just tried to I

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wanted to calm them down a little bit because I

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didn't I didn't want him to be scared like that,

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you know, even though I did feel this kind of like,

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so somebody believes me, you know, I don't sound so

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crazy now to this person, and that I found a

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little bit of comfort in. But that around that time,

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since I was kind of trying to you know, wrap

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my head around that experience from twenty twenty, I got

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on the internet and I really didn't go very deep.

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I just found some Reddit threads and I you know,

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didn't see any other sightings in that area, and but

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I heard about like tree knocking and the structures and stuff,

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and I was like, ah, yeah, that's you know, that

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doesn't really that doesn't really apply to my experience. And

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I didn't really get the tree knocking. But we fast

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forward to about a month ago, maybe maybe six weeks ago,

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going on six weeks ago. I had been really struggling

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with making in meet and I had had a living

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situation completely fall to pieces, and I was just I

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kind of had it, and I was going to go

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for a walk and clear my head, add on some

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trails out outside of Scappoose and I go out on.

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These trails big, so society will be right back after

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these messages.

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It's really nice, but it's hot lately. So I could

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hear some water below, and I was like, man, why

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don't these trails just go down to this little creek

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that's a lane, you know. I think I could make

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it down to this little creek, you know. So I

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go off trail and I get down to this cute

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little creek and it's this little open area and I

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spent some time down there, and I'm like, okay, so

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I should probably get back out before it starts getting

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dim out here. And I looked the way I came

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and I was like, man, that was kind of a

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little hairer than it looked. Maybe maybe if I just

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follow along this creek a little bit, there'll be an

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their way up that won't be as as rough, you know.

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So I'm kind of following a little deer trail along

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this creek and it starts kind of getting you know,

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full of stinging nettles, and I'm like, okay, this is

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this is kind of ridiculous, but you know, it would

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be even more ridiculous to turn around, you know, Like

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I just I felt like I knew like how I'd

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get back to the road that my my car was

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parked on. I never I never felt lost. I never

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admitted to myself that I was at any rate. And

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so I'm getting out there, and I'm seeing tracks for

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animals in the mud and mostly deer and raccoon, and

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I know that there's homesteads out there. I'm I'm I'm

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half expecting to just like bust through somebody's you know,

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rhododendrons into their backyard, which would have been embarrassing, but

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I was, you know, I was open to that at

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this moment, you know. And I kind of come to

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this point where the creek really becomes thick brush and

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there's some big down trees, and I just kind of

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take a minute, and I don't really think about what

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am I going to do next? You know, which way

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do I think is best to go? And I decided

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that I needed to go up this ridge. I was like,

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I know there's a road up there. I think it's

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I think it's like forty feet up. I can see

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it kind of flattens out, and I bet you that's

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a road. And so I'm going up and I'm feeling

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absolutely ridiculous. Like you just hear stories of hikers getting

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lost and getting choppered out, and I'm just always like

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thinking that these folks are easy. Now and here I am, uh,

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kind of getting into some really thick stuff, but still

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not admitting that I'm completely lost. I know that I

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know that there's a way out, and that there's property,

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there's there's something I'm going to come across, you know.

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So I get up to where my vision, uh, my

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visual perception stopped, and it did level out, but it

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continued up again, and so I'm just I'm so exhausted

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by this point, but I gotta do it. I gotta

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go up and I, you know, get up this ridge

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and that's got some trees so I can kind of

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take some breathers here and there, and I'm like, oh,

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I can see it. I can see the road, okay,

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And I getting this this like anxious push to get

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to it. And I stepped through a pile of a

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wood and oh, what's that. It's hornets. I stepped into

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a nest of ground hornets underneath this wood pile and

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they were all over me. And I'm allergic to bees.

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I never carry a shot kit, but I should, because

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I mean, they told me that if I was to

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get into anaphylectic shock again, it would happen faster. I

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probably have about fifteen minutes if I was to ever

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get stung again. That happened a long time ago when

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I was a child. But when this is happening to me,

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I just try to run, and I'm not very good

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at running. At this point, I'm exhausted and I'm screaming, screaming.

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I can't even hear myself, but I know I'm screaming,

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and they're just staying on me. They're in my hair

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there there, in my clothes, they're like in all the

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tender underarm areas or just what a mess. And I

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probably had gone about one hundred feet like along the ridge,

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and finally I just laid down and most of them

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had left me alone. There was a couple of diehards,

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but I had just I just was like, okay, okay, okay.

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So so I'm just got to sit here and I

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got to figure out if I'm if I'm gonna go

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on to inflective shock here, you know, kind of waiting

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to see if I have any breathing issues, and just

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kind of get myself a minute, and I want to

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slow my heart rate down if I can't, and I

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managed to do that a little bit, and I come

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to the conclusion that, you know, I'm I'm not going

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into an eplectic shock. And how lucky I am I

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to be able to get up and step onto this

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logging road that was three feet from me, Like I

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just step out onto this road, and I'm just I

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can't believe that I just climbed up that thing. I

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look down and I can't even see the creek anymore,

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you know, I can't even hear the creek anymore. And

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and I'm looking at this road and I decide, okay, like,

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let's go to the left. I think, I think that

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this is the way that I want I need to go.

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I start walking and it wasn't long before I came

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to where they had bulldozed a berm, and I think

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it was going to go back down into this ridge line.

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So I just kind of was like, all right, I

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don't think I should go this way. This isn't this

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isn't the answer. So I turn around and I start

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betracing my steps and I come to where I came

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out and continued and there was a split, and I

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had been observing a lot of scat on the logging road,

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which was pretty overgrown in some areas with BlackBerry brambles

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and other small brush and I was seeing, now that

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looks like black bear scat there and apps that's uh

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mountain lion, okay, And there's there's a lot of it.

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And then there was a huge, like more than a

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foot across pile, and I was like, what they were

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all full of BlackBerry seeds, you know. And I just

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kind of thought to myself, youse, guys are probably pretty

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tired e blackberries right about now, you know, just and

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so I decided to I made my decision on what

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road I was going to take at the split, and

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about twenty feet into that, into that part of the road,

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I hear behind me a click click clock and it's

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like I felt like I was along. It was like

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a long haired cat that was all poofed out, like

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I felt like like I just felt like a spiky

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like I don't know how to describe how all these

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hairs that I don't have, we're standing up all around

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me and I look over my shoulder, but I didn't stop,

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and there was nothing but but I could tell from

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where the sound came from. It was just next to

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the road where I had passed twice, and the the

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logging road made up this nice little flat space, but

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the ridge continued, you know, so the sound was above

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my head and I just kind of was like, oh,

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because the ridge continues at a really steep incline, but

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that was not a woodpecker. And I just was at

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the I think that I was in an already in

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a moderate on its way to severe state of shock

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from the hornet's nest. And this happened, and I was

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just kind of like, I don't know, like what this

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being is expecting for a response from me right now,

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but I'm just kind of fucking sure. You know, of

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course this is going to happen now. This is when

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it's going to happen, is when everything's still completely out

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of control. And I was really lucky because the sun

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was beginning to go down and I had gone in

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this hike around like ten in the morning, you know,

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and I'm looking at the sun figuring what time it was,

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trying to figure out my position and how much time

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do I have before this place gets really dark and

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just more scary because of that than it's ever been

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before for me in my life. And I came across

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some trees that were down on this logging road that

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I guess hadn't been surveyed in quite some time. But

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it was, you know, trees up by their routes, you know,

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stacked over each other blocking the road which I was

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coming out. That's kind of seems recent, these trees, like

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there's still alive even you know, like and I don't

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really remember us having you know, really strong weather in

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any sense in this area, so that's kind of interesting.

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It took a while for me to like start feeling

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like I wasn't being observed, because that's how I felt,

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and that instance, it took probably like a half a

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mile a mile before I was like, oh, I can

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kind of just breathe a little easier. But I just was.

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I just was keeping my pace and I didn't make

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any wrong turns because there was a number of splits

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that I came across. And I came out of these

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logging roads. I mean, they're supposed to be closed. I'm

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not supposed to be in there. I'm trespassing. I think

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that it might have been like Warehouser Land outside and

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I made it out to Dutch Canyon Road and walked out,

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and that's kind of the end of where that experiences.

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The thing about the click click clack, you know, was

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that the three knocks were a very uh precise beat.

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They didn't they they were. It was a very tight beat,

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but the third was a completely different pitch, which confused

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They just confuses me still because I'm just like, okay,

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so you know, like if you take a two by four,

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like maybe one, maybe the wide side makes a different

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sound than the short side, you know, because you can't

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just this guy didn't didn't set something down and pick

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up another one, you know, to make a different pitch

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and sound than the other two. You know. That's the

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part where it just really got my attention that that

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something intelligent was trying to convey a point to me.

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And I was pretty I don't know, I don't want

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to say it just fit stressed me out necessarily, but

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but it did. I kind of became hyper fixated on

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trying to understand this more. And I don't really have

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a lot of close friends at this point in my life,

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and but I'm spending time with my mom trying to

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build things up from the ground up here and talking

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to her about it.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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And She's like, you know, he could have been trying

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to let you know that that was that was the

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right way to go, to encourage you to get out

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the right way, you know, And I just kind of

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was like, yeah, that totally could make sense. Uh you

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just I just can't. I can't know in that respect.

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And so since that, you know, last six weeks or so,

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I've kind of really immersed myself and people's stories, and I,

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you know, kind of have a different perspective on a

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couple of things about living on Sauvie Island. Like I

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I thought that I was totally whohooing with a with

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an owl out there out past the tree line across

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from our porch, and I just felt like, you know,

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like a nature woman like I thought, you know, I

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had I had an owl friend, Like how cool is that?

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And I mean I saw that owl. It came and

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checked me out on the beach one night, so I

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was sold. But every time and I was kind of like, well,

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where is this guy? I'm trying to where in the

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trees is this guy that's out here? It's always responding

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to me when I'm making my crappy owl call, and

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I kind of look at that very differently now. And

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then there was also a night where we had the

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thickest fog I've ever seen on the island, being on

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the river like that, and all the leaves had fallen.

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This might have been after I think it was possibly

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after our seeing him crossing, and I was out sitting

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on the porch having ciders and I can hear somebody

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walking in the lead. He was out in front of

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where we park our cars, and I was like, who

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is this person walking in the trees over here? And

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I was thinking that it was somebody that was trying

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to have an encampment nearby and thought that there being

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a really thick fog would be a good time to

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go poke around. And I didn't like that, so I

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started kind of like talking. I was like, you know,

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you really really not a good idea for you to

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be poking around here. And I called my partner out

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and I'm just like, there's somebody walking out over here,

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and he's just you know, like I said, our relationship

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was kind of shot to pieces at that point, and

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there's this can of sider in my hand, and he's

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just kind of like, okay, all right, calling whatever, and

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he goes inside. He never hears anything because he doesn't

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even he doesn't believe me. He doesn't spend any time

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on the porch with me, and so it's just me

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and this person that I mean thirty thirty feet from me,

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you know. And when I talked to it, it stopped,

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it was listening to me, and I was like, hey,

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I just I mean, you know, folks over here, they

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just are on the island itself, they do not take

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kindly to folks wandering around on properties. You're going to

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get hurt. You're going to get shot, you know, like

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you need to think about that and and be very

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very careful. You know. I wasn't like threatening it to

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shoot it or anything, but I just it needs to

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know that it's very dangerous to be going around people's

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homes like that. It's just very dangerous. And it did.

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It just kind of started backing up and and I

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think it went towards this tree line that I would

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wo who at from my port, and I just never

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put all that together ever before that. So yeah, and

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then there was even there was even when we go camping.

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We'd always camp out on that hood and we'd go

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out to twenty four to forty six out past Ripplebrook

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Ranger Station, and we had this spot called Big Fan.

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And this was way back in the day when there

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wasn't a lot of people out there ever, and the

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ranger would come and try to see firewood and warning,

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did not have your fire too big and some of

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the big trees out there. And it's right on the

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Collar Wash where it splits off into the Clackamas River.

453
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:59.079
It's a really beautiful site and it's big enough to

454
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.599
hold a couple of Fan families. So one year we

455
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:10.199
went with another family and that night my friend's dad

456
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.559
he's like, so, you know about the mountain men, right,

457
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.519
And I'm like, oh, okay, you know this is some

458
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.039
campfire stuff. Sure. I just think it was twelve at

459
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.760
the time. And he's like, yeah, there's mountain men out here.

460
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.199
And then my dad's standing there and I think he's

461
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.880
trying to mitigate where he thinks this is going, because

462
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.760
we never talked about Bigfoot, you know, more than Harry

463
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.519
and the Henderson's you know, it was. And my dad's like,

464
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:47.960
there are some men that come back from Vietnam that

465
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.760
did not adjust to society and they prefer to stay

466
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:56.159
out in the woods. And my friend's dad, I think,

467
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:01.800
takes his cue and kind of let's up a little bit,

468
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.000
and he's like, no, they come into your camp at

469
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.440
night when everyone's asleep, and they just take some beer

470
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.480
and some hot dogs, just enough for a snack, you know.

471
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:19.960
And I was like, oh, okay, sure, so I stayed up.

472
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.679
I stayed up, and I waited. I made sure everybody

473
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:30.280
was asleep before I let myself fall asleep, and I

474
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.960
got up first as well, and I went and I

475
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:35.840
looked in that cooler and sure, sure enough, there was

476
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.800
less stuff in there. And I was like, man, I

477
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.719
didn't hear anything come into camp, you know. So it

478
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:46.960
just really fascinated me that there's people people lean around

479
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.440
me and I can't hear, see or be aware of

480
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.079
them at all. It just it just totally blew my mind.

481
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.400
What I didn't know was that was probably one of

482
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.039
the last times that our family went camp out there together.

483
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.400
My dad's mental health kind of started to deteriorate, and

484
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:11.440
you know, having teenagers just most taken wearing our parents out,

485
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.480
and we just never did it again. But I remember

486
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:17.400
we had gone back to that spot yearly now for

487
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.599
I sent up my tent I did share with my

488
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.440
sister and brother of kint like I'm just kind of

489
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:27.440
lay here for a minute, and I like laid there

490
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.920
and I could just hear the trees, and I was like, man,

491
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.159
it just like it just feels like they remember me,

492
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:41.760
like like like we're familiar to the trees, you know.

493
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:47.000
And I have like these these thoughts about like you know,

494
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.199
when people pass away, you know, they kind of after

495
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:56.239
a certain point, they they kind of become more elemental

496
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.519
and they come into the forests and some of it's

497
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.599
dark and some of it's not, you know, but it's

498
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.639
just it's just so beautiful, big and sacred, you know.

499
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:13.360
And and I just always thought that I'm a really

500
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:17.639
weird kid like to you know, like I didn't I

501
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.840
wouldn't even share those thoughts with anyone, you know, because

502
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.199
I was that weird kid, and I wasn't trying to

503
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.079
perpetuate it more than it already was that way, you know,

504
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:35.119
I wanted to be normal so bad and and yeah,

505
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:42.360
like that was that's basically all the the past, and

506
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:48.639
now we're living in this remote area an unincorporated land

507
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.920
at a butt blm land with transmission lines wooden transmission lines.

508
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:02.840
There's a reservoir nearby with a preserve forests around it,

509
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:07.280
and behind our property the forest goes all the way

510
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.719
to the coast for forty miles. And I don't want

511
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.639
to go for walks by myself. Me and my mom

512
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.960
will walk when she's up for it, and we'll just

513
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:23.440
take a little walk down logging road down our neighbor's property.

514
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:31.320
And so, you know, last week, we take the dog

515
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.840
and even my cat with me. That time. Billy he's

516
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.239
a year and a half and he wanted to follow us,

517
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.760
and you know, I totally am into that that he

518
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.559
was freaked out about the forest. You know, it's pretty

519
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.119
overwhelming for a little guy. And we're only like one

520
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:57.559
hundred and fifty feet from the house, and my mom

521
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.760
got the dog and she's a little further up, and

522
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.039
I'm trying to coax Billy because he's timid. When I

523
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.599
look back at Billy, he was frozen. He was locking

524
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.360
eyes with something, and my Mom's continuing me to walk,

525
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.239
and so I'm like, oh, I better go pick him up,

526
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.599
you know, I'm go get him, and I walk up

527
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:21.400
and as soon as I come close enough to him,

528
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.280
he's like, yep, let's get out of here. He starts

529
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:28.440
locking back, and I go to pick him up, and

530
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:33.920
I can hear a movement on either side of this

531
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:38.599
logging road. And I finished picking up Billy and he's

532
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.119
all about being held at this moment, and I can

533
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:49.840
hear the tree ox and I caught three. But I went, hey, mom,

534
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.480
and she stopped and waited for me to catch up

535
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.119
with her. With Billy in my arms, you know, let

536
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:02.440
me carry him a whole fifty feet. And I was like, ah,

537
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.000
I thought, I here's some tree knocks there. You know,

538
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.880
I thought I heard three. You know, what did you hear?

539
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.320
She was like, I was, I heard four or five?

540
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:12.840
And they were gentle, they weren't. They weren't weave the

541
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:19.199
slugger tree knocks and whatever. We continue, and I wanted

542
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.519
to check out this kind of overgrown road that was

543
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.119
pretty near where our stopping point was last time. And

544
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.440
I was thinking about leaving a special rock or something,

545
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.280
but I didn't bring one with me. So we go

546
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.840
down this little road and I thought I saw visual movement,

547
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:42.280
but whatever, possibly a deer. We stand there a little bit,

548
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.000
and then there's you know, a rapid like five knock

549
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.360
and we're just like, okay, you know, let's go ahead

550
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.599
and hit back. And then there was a ground squirrel

551
00:42:53.679 --> 00:43:01.559
that started like calling super agro like yoked out squirrel

552
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.920
out there, just calling on when we started heading out.

553
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:14.679
Now it's just kind of gods, that's pretty interesting. So yeah,

554
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:19.519
growing up out here and living out here is really great.

555
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.840
But all of a sudden, very recently, there's just like

556
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:30.840
this whole new kind of shift in my perception for it,

557
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:36.360
and it's been pretty challenging to adjust to it because

558
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.519
I need to just go to work, you know, and

559
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.920
it's kind of you know, you have like this mind

560
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.280
blowing experience and then you just got to go do

561
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.480
some really mundane stuff. How could you do anything else

562
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:59.000
when this is you know, has like so much meaning

563
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:03.599
behind it that means so much other stuff is real

564
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:11.400
and true, and it's just kind of shatters your you know,

565
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:16.360
agreed upon understanding of your reality. And I just, you know,

566
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.119
there's a part of me that was like, man, that's

567
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.719
in a way it can be really scary. And this

568
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.760
is the kind of stuff in the twentieth century that

569
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.920
you know, people would try to put these folks into

570
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.360
a cage so you can observe them and feel safe,

571
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.880
and you know they need to be protected. They don't.

572
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.400
They're in a lot of danger. All these fires and

573
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.639
people literally trying to make history and some gruesome way.

574
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:48.039
It's pretty scary. So I just kind of worry about

575
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:49.400
them now.

576
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.239
So, Colin, you definitely have been through a lot. Thank

577
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:59.840
you for sharing that entire account. Do you mind if

578
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.639
I ask you a few questions about different things?

579
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:03.599
Sure?

580
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.920
First off, I want to say I'm glad you're okay.

581
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.960
In general, you I'm I'm very glad you're okay. Keep

582
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:22.119
keep being okay, all right. Yeah, So it feels like

583
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.280
there was a point where you'd said that you may

584
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:29.599
have had a visual of something, But the way you

585
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.400
were talking about it feels like you may have talked

586
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:36.960
yourself out of it. Maybe like when our logical I say,

587
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.639
like when our logical side of our brain kind of

588
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.760
talks too loud and it over talks our big foot side.

589
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.000
Do you remember anything about what you think you may

590
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.800
have seen or any details about that that time?

591
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.000
So you're talking about walking along with my mom a

592
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:09.559
week ago. So yeah, so I had looked down this

593
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.000
little road and it's completely covered in green, you know,

594
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.440
it's but it's really wide, and I figure there might

595
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:24.320
have been a road to an old homestead. It's very

596
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.119
level and it and it looks like the creek. It

597
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:36.159
even has like a covert, uh so that the road

598
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:40.559
continues over the creek. And I just kind of was

599
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.679
curious if the road turned a little.

600
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.960
Bit big, so society will be right back after these messages.

601
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:10.519
So I had stepped into the road so that all

602
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:13.760
of that vision vision was opened to me. And as

603
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:24.679
I looked down, it was like a a blur of

604
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.719
and it was like maybe a little black, maybe a

605
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.159
little can and it was just to the right, which

606
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:38.320
there was no rushing through the brush. The I mean

607
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:44.599
the forest floor over here isn't the thickest brush in

608
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:50.119
all places. Sometimes you can see pretty far as far

609
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.960
as like you know, forest floors are concerned, but in

610
00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.239
this area there there was it was pretty thick, you know,

611
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.360
and there's the creek right there, so you really just

612
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:13.280
couldn't vanish without making a sound. And even like when

613
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.880
you alerted her, because we've come across to your quite

614
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:22.719
often and they freeze and they're perfectly fine walking eze

615
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:26.719
with you, but they'd rather just kind of stay still

616
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:28.440
as long as you don't move towards them. And they'll

617
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:33.280
do that until you move out of out of their

618
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.920
visual spectrum. En not that they'll move off or you'll

619
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:41.639
get them spooked, and then they'll they'll make noise, they'll

620
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:47.400
do their little prants hop away and that is a

621
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:51.760
very particular sound. And there was none of that, absolutely

622
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:56.880
none of that. But the sounds that we heard, the

623
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:04.000
five tree knocks, which were softer, so they weren't alerting

624
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.000
everyone within a mile and a half. They were alerting

625
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:17.000
us or someone closer to them perhaps, And it wasn't

626
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.960
necessarily threatening, but it was. But it was definitely like

627
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.880
a very thorough acknowledgment, and it would have been in

628
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.639
the general direction that this movement that I saw was

629
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:35.159
going in. You know, when we came back down the

630
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:36.880
road on the way home, I was like, you know,

631
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.199
so I know I heard moving on both sides, but

632
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:45.840
I don't know what Billy was looking at, and the

633
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.599
five tree knocks came from that side of the road,

634
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:53.000
and I was like, I want to make extra pay

635
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.519
extra attention because they had they've done some logging nearby,

636
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:05.400
and they got a bulldozers busting up the ground on

637
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.440
the road, so it's much easier to leave an imprint,

638
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.679
so I was trying to pay a little extra attention.

639
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:22.519
We didn't see anything, but certainly our Calhoun Ricky was

640
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:28.280
certainly very interested in some areas. It was alerting in

641
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:35.480
other areas, and you know, and later that night, you know,

642
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:39.719
my mom's husband went to bed and so I was like,

643
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:47.079
you know, so about that, what do you think it was?

644
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:49.920
And she's like, I don't know what that was? All right,

645
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:54.119
Well was it a woodpecker? She goes, no, No, that

646
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.760
was not a bird. And I was like, yeah, that's

647
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:02.400
as far as it went. But I definitely feel like

648
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:09.400
this would be ideal area for an animal to live,

649
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:16.320
except that we're closer and closer to more developed areas.

650
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:22.519
But like I said, from here west, it's just it's

651
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.199
just all forest.

652
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:27.800
So that's wild. And that was just a week ago,

653
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:35.719
and yeah, that's that's that's very interesting. Definitely keep me

654
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.039
in the loop about that, because I mean, that could ease.

655
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.119
There could be other stuff that happened out there easily.

656
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.760
So yeah, I feel like our I asked my mom

657
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.639
about our property that we're on, and it's like how

658
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:57.119
long has this been a home? You know? And the

659
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:05.679
property goes back in record to like nineteen oh five,

660
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:10.599
so this wasn't recently settled, you know, which I would think,

661
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.840
would you know, you would I would I would expect

662
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.719
more disruption if that were the case, If you know,

663
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:23.320
if you had recently encroached on areas that may have

664
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.719
been considered somebody else's, that they would be more apt

665
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:34.239
to being a little bit more upset about being disturbed.

666
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:40.440
But from what I understand, you know, like these these

667
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:44.400
these folks out here, you know, I think that they're

668
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.920
when they showed up, so were these homes were here.

669
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:56.440
So that's kind of like this understanding that they both exist.

670
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:04.199
And just yeah, I'm terribly interested too, you know, continue

671
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.840
to go for walks, and but I don't want to

672
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.840
do it alone. And uh and I just I do.

673
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:18.719
I just want to be really thoughtful because like I

674
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:22.880
said before, I just you know, I want them to

675
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.440
stay mysterious in a way. I don't. I think that

676
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:31.599
it's necessary for you know, them to be completely understood

677
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.840
inside and out, and every little feature of them need

678
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:38.559
to be documented. And you know, I don't think that

679
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:43.440
that's necessary at all, and and I and I just

680
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:47.239
I'm just so worried about them in that way.

681
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:55.440
Yeah, that's that's that's very interesting viewpoint. And I can

682
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.360
I can definitely see what what you're saying for sure.

683
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.840
Do you have any close neighbors to that property.

684
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:10.480
Right, Yeah, we do. There's we're at the end of

685
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.280
a dirt road that's off of another dirt road, off

686
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:18.239
another dirt road, and there's folks right across from the

687
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:20.360
end of our road from us. And then there's another

688
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:25.800
stead on our road that I would say is like

689
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:33.119
two hundred feet or so from us, like an acre away,

690
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.360
and they're the ones that have just recently cleared some

691
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.559
of this area near where we live. And I think

692
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:46.639
there's even another further neighbor. And their family has large

693
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:52.159
areas of land divided between their family members and they

694
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.719
log from time to time too, but I haven't really

695
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:01.119
gotten to know any of them. What's interesting is that,

696
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:05.199
like when we get down to the main turn off

697
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:11.159
to get onto uh the main paved road on that

698
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:18.920
corner is a homestead and they have a wood carving

699
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:23.719
of UH they put right there, you know, So it's

700
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.920
it's pretty curious. I wouldn't know how to from from

701
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:36.880
what I understand, you know, we look like uh Portlander's basically,

702
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:41.559
so even though her husband grew up around this area,

703
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.119
you know, me showing up and my mom, you know,

704
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:51.199
we're you know, these invaders from an urban area that

705
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:57.159
isn't really well looked upon, uh by a large amount

706
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:03.039
of people over a wide area. And so I wouldn't

707
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:07.199
even know how I would begin to broach even a

708
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.800
small talk conversation. I think that it would take a

709
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:16.920
lot to gain anyone's confidence at all in this area too.

710
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:22.320
That's we're just kind of outsiders. But but i'd love

711
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.039
I would love to though.

712
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:28.239
Yeah, I mean, it's it's one of those things where

713
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:32.320
it's easier said than done, right because it's it's it

714
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:35.280
feels like if I was in that situation, I would

715
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:39.599
definitely want to first know my neighbors, and especially if

716
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.480
I was looking in a big foot in that situation

717
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:44.519
and one of them has a big, like carved bigfoot,

718
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:48.719
I mean, it's like, come on, you got to right,

719
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.119
But again, it's easier said than done. So I don't

720
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.679
know if I been around the situation.

721
00:56:56.440 --> 00:57:00.679
I think that from time to time there's like some

722
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.280
sort of a pot luck maybe just because there's some

723
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:08.239
ranch land, and you know, some of these families go back,

724
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:15.719
you know. I think you know too. After the Indian Wars,

725
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.320
a lot of the folks settled out here. The soldiers

726
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.920
they got some nice picks of land out here before

727
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.800
it became settled, and so a lot of these families

728
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.360
have been here ever since. And so I think that

729
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.639
it would be really cool if I would definitely go

730
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:44.840
and try to socialize and see if I could mention

731
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:50.719
or admire the big folk sculpture and see where it led.

732
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.639
So I got the idea, Okay, here's what you're gonna do.

733
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.760
So you the next time they have the like pot

734
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:04.719
luck or whatever. Yeah, you make cookies that are in

735
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.000
the shape of a bigfoot.

736
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:08.800
I can do it.

737
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.239
It's like a conversational piece type deal.

738
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.760
I don't know I could do that.

739
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:16.360
There he is, I hear.

740
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:25.000
Him, yeah, wild, Yeah he's a knucklehead.

741
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.719
What I was going to ask is, going back to

742
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:35.519
when you lived on the island and you had the sighting,

743
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:40.239
was it close enough that you could or do you

744
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:45.639
remember any details about the face or just details about

745
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.079
it in general that you know, made you kind of

746
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:51.559
think like, oh that that's weird or that is like

747
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.880
how they always say it is or it's not. It's different.

748
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:06.639
No clothes. Obviously I made eye contact with it, so

749
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:13.360
I but it was all black and I was I

750
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:17.440
would say it was six and a half or seven feet.

751
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.559
It didn't I didn't get a really good look at

752
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.559
the hands or I didn't even look at its feet.

753
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:27.920
And even though I was looking right at its face

754
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:31.239
and I mean coming towards it, even though we slowed

755
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.719
down quite a bit, it was the only thing I

756
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.800
was seeing, and I still didn't get like any more definition.

757
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:44.079
It was just kind of all in this mess of black,

758
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.679
and I would I felt like the shape of its

759
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.920
head wasn't too cone like. I felt like it was

760
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:56.360
more rounded, but perhaps was a bit higher, you know.

761
00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.320
I think that it almost looked normal because some people

762
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.719
wear their hair higher up on their head like that,

763
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.800
you know, So it didn't even that didn't even visually

764
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:13.519
seem like too wildly unhuman, I mean unhuman to me

765
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:14.039
at all.

766
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.599
Big for society will be right back after these messages,

767
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:35.920
and I.

768
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.480
Just kind of gone back over it and over it,

769
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:45.440
and I think it had to have heard us coming

770
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:51.599
down this gravel road. Why would it do that? You know?

771
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.280
And again you're talking to my mom and she's like,

772
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:58.599
you know, it could have been a young adult and

773
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:02.880
it had been, you know, corralled by its parents tell

774
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:05.840
him that, no, you can't do that, No you can't

775
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:09.599
do that. And it's like finding its own range out there,

776
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.320
you know, trying to do its own thing. Not sure why,

777
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:18.960
you know, the previous generations were so paranoid about people,

778
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:28.559
you know, and because it didn't seem afraid, it's almost

779
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:35.199
like it wanted to be seen, which I just boggles

780
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:40.920
my mind. I don't get it at all. And so,

781
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:45.679
I mean, I don't really speak with my partner of

782
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:50.679
that time very much. He started a new relationship and

783
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:54.159
I hope he has success, and so I just try

784
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:56.239
to leave him alone. But I was like, if I'm

785
01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:00.719
gonna go as far as to talk to you, you Jeremiah,

786
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:02.960
you know, I'll go ahead and reach out. So I

787
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:08.760
so I did, and we were texting and I was like, hey,

788
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:10.320
I was gonna ask you a question, and he's like,

789
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:14.199
go ahead, and I'm like, do you remember seeing Bigfoot?

790
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.440
And he's like, uh no, I mean was it up north?

791
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:23.000
Was it south? Because we were outdoors a lot and

792
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:29.519
he's from the Olympic Peninsula and uh, and I just

793
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:36.159
gave him the the details of it, the synapse, and

794
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:40.920
he goes, I do remember that, And I was just like, okay,

795
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:45.119
you know, like it doesn't really do anything, It really

796
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:49.920
doesn't change anything. But it again just kind of like

797
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:55.400
when my friend, you know, apologized for being so intense

798
01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:59.199
about my story and then you know, kind of being like,

799
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.800
I'm I paulogize about that. It just kind of gave

800
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:05.239
me this like comfort in being believed.

801
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.920
So yeah, absolutely, I mean, it's always good to have

802
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:17.760
someone else on your side when you've experienced something that's

803
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.719
out of the ordinary like that. I can definitely get

804
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.760
that who broke eye contact first when you had eye

805
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:27.920
contact with it, I do.

806
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:34.679
Believe that it did, or it might have just gone

807
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:40.639
out of view. But when we pulled up and came

808
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:45.880
to a stop, when we could see him again in

809
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:55.599
this like hedgerow, he had stopped and was waiting and

810
01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:00.800
looked and at me. But I mean my partner was

811
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.599
right in line with me, so I would imagine that

812
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:09.199
he may have felt similar that he also was talking

813
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:14.559
eyes with this you know person basically is how it feels,

814
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:19.760
you know. And there was like this just moment that

815
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:25.519
lasted probably four seconds or so, but felt like an

816
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:31.079
extended amount of time before it ducked into the hedges.

817
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:35.400
And then, you know, after my friend was being critical

818
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:38.960
and saying, well, what do you mean by it was

819
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.320
waiting for you? He kept asking that over and I

820
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.639
was like, I kind of felt silly, like it was

821
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:46.119
waiting for me, Like what do I mean? Well, what

822
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.639
I think was actually happiness. It was trying to make

823
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:50.719
sure we weren't going to turn down that access road,

824
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:52.480
that we weren't going to come and try to get

825
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:55.679
a better look at it. That's what I think makes sense,

826
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:58.920
you know. And after it realized that we weren't turning

827
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:03.159
down that road, I mean, there's there's no barrier from

828
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:05.360
us to do it, but but I would have felt

829
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:07.760
like it was disrespectful. That's an access road for some

830
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:12.320
someone's field. You know, I'm not trying to go after

831
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:17.280
it onto somebody's private property to that extent, but I

832
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:21.920
know some people would. So it was, you know, worried

833
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:23.079
about it a little bit.

834
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.320
What was the main thing that you noticed that made

835
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:32.119
you give it a kind of a classification of something

836
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:32.800
that was human.

837
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:43.239
When I looked at this, I never thought about an ape.

838
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.960
I never thought about a monkey. I never thought of

839
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:51.199
any sort of primate that I've known of like that

840
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.440
didn't it didn't enter my mind in one in any way.

841
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.519
Like it looked like a hairy person. And I tried

842
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.119
really hard to like crank it, and it took me

843
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:11.119
years of digesting it myself quietly before I could just

844
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:15.360
say it out loud that that was a hairy person.

845
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:20.039
That was that was a bigfoot that was maybe not

846
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:22.920
as large as other bigfoot, but I mean I actually

847
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:27.039
recently they got you pick farms out there. Me and

848
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:31.119
my sister took her son out and went very picking,

849
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:33.599
and I was like, hey, what do you think about

850
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:35.880
throwing the kid out in the water. She had no

851
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:39.840
idea that there were beaches out there, so we did.

852
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.239
We went and took the kid out to the beach,

853
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.760
threw him in the water, and before we left, I

854
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:47.119
took her down that very road. I wanted to show

855
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:51.199
her the savannah. And as we were coming down, I'm

856
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:55.320
trying to figure out where exactly it was. And it

857
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:58.440
didn't come out of a foot trail. It was an

858
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.920
access road also that it had come out of. So

859
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:05.480
it was walking down these access roads, and there's wetlands

860
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:10.039
in between these areas too. There's fields wetlands, and they

861
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:14.679
all have like little access footpaths or you can access

862
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:19.280
some of the Some are smaller for you know, four

863
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:22.239
by fours, and then you have like straight up, you know,

864
01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:28.920
stuff for trucks. So these are straight up access roads

865
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:34.280
and they don't line up completely. And so it's the

866
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:39.239
last set of access roads before you really get to

867
01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:44.920
the end before the cattle guard. And I finally riding

868
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.599
with my sister, I'm explaining to her. I'm letting her

869
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.760
know I had this experience as we're rolling down this

870
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:57.360
road and I'm looking at I'm looking at these BlackBerry brambles, which,

871
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:06.119
without trees to climb, grow into BlackBerry brambles, you know,

872
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:09.239
they'll get like six or seven feet tall or so.

873
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:15.599
But these were growing into trees planted as a barrier

874
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:22.439
for their fields. So the tops of these BlackBerry brambles

875
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:27.720
were somewhere around you know, twelve feet or more. So

876
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.399
I just wonder about, like how when you see something

877
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:35.119
in your brain really just tries to cram it into

878
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:40.079
the parameters that it's used to, so you know, maybe

879
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:43.680
it was considerably taller than six and a half seven

880
01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:48.920
feet like I originally thought when I had had the experience,

881
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:54.079
and it could have been much taller because you know,

882
01:08:54.199 --> 01:09:01.920
there's there's no like street sign, poll at the at

883
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.159
the corner there, or a mailbox. There's it's all just

884
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:10.840
you know, wildland, tall trees and monster BlackBerry bushes. So

885
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.600
there's a question about that in my mind.

886
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:19.960
Yeah, would you ever want to see you one again?

887
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:31.239
I don't know. It's kind of interesting because you know,

888
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:35.439
I loved Jane Goodall, and everybody you know wants to

889
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:39.159
feel special, right. I don't necessarily feel special, okay, I

890
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.920
feel like people. This isn't as a unique experience as

891
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:49.600
we're sold it is, okay, but uh, you know, there's

892
01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.960
like this fantasy of like, oh, you know, we could

893
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:57.520
be friends and I can help protect them or something,

894
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:04.840
you know, But I think that the more I see

895
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.279
them means that the more that they are exposed to

896
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:12.920
other people, which would endanger them. So in a way, no,

897
01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:16.520
I don't know, you know, you know, in my heart,

898
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:22.439
you know, I have like this huge love for like

899
01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.560
this region. It's not just the state of Oregon specific northwest.

900
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:33.359
You know. I love this landscape in such a intimate

901
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:36.680
way that like growing up here, like you know, two

902
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:40.119
twenty four got burnt to a crisp you know, and

903
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.800
h when I drove out that way after they opened

904
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.720
the road up, I cannot tell you how much it

905
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.439
tore me to pieces. And then I couldn't even get

906
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:50.640
to the camp spot to see if those trees that

907
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.039
I felt recognized me where they or not. I think

908
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.640
they did survive, by the way, but I haven't seen

909
01:10:55.640 --> 01:11:02.199
them myself since. But this is like this really deep

910
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:08.800
reverence and in this this feeling of responsibility and this

911
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:15.640
drive to do what I can to preserve it. And

912
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:18.600
and I think to do that, you've got to let

913
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:25.840
these areas be wild and protect them. And so you know,

914
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:31.760
I think that my love for them overpowers this, you know,

915
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:39.479
part of me to have this validate, validating experience, I'd

916
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:42.680
much rather than be safe. And if I had to

917
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.560
not ever see one again to ensure their safety, that's

918
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:47.039
what I want.

919
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:51.000
I think that's a beautiful way to put it. And yeah,

920
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:55.199
I just let's say thank you again for spending some

921
01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:58.000
time this afternoon. Sharing what you've experienced over the years.

922
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:03.359
Colleen has been a very interesting conversation, and I appreciate

923
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:04.760
you coming on today.

924
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:08.159
Yeah, I appreciate you making time for me too. Thank

925
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:08.840
you so much.

926
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:11.720
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01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.319
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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

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which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

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please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use

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It's your support that helps keep the show going and

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Forward slash the big Foot Society. I'll see you there

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and again, thanks for listening.

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Her and I can get on here. We can tell

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our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

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too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

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them the courage to come out.

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And now it feels so bad about it, Who cares

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what anybody thinks.

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I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

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That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please

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let them know. If you've ever seen one of

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These things, you need to tell, because if you don't,

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then shame on you, you know, shame on you,