Oct. 9, 2024

We See Sasquatch in the LBL.

Join us as Mike shares his detailed encounters with Bigfoot and other unexplained phenomena in the Land Between the Lakes area of Kentucky. Relive his chilling experiences from a fateful fishing trip where he and his family witnessed Bigfoot activity,...

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Season 1

Join us as Mike shares his detailed encounters with Bigfoot and other unexplained phenomena in the Land Between the Lakes area of Kentucky. Relive his chilling experiences from a fateful fishing trip where he and his family witnessed Bigfoot activity, to discovering strange footprints and hearing unearthly sounds. Mike also delves into his personal journey from skepticism to belief, considering both the supernatural and the unknown, and providing an insightful discussion on the intersection of faith and cryptid encounters. His story is a mesmerizing blend of eerie encounters and profound reflections, set against the backdrop of one of Kentucky's most mysterious regions.

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Slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show, all right, pick for Society. We've got

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the privilege of talking to mister Mike Smith tonight. I've

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been wanting to talk to Mike for quite a while.

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We had a quick, quick conversation at I believe it,

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Small Town Monsters Monster Fest two. Mike is an individual

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who has experienced multiple things in the lbl or laying

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between the Lakes area of Kentucky. So it's a pleasure

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to have you on the show tonight.

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Mike.

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How's it gone, sir?

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Hey, it's going great. I've been looking forward to this

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since we spoke, and I'm glad to be here.

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Oh absolutely, Mike. I'm going to go ahead, and I

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think we've got a lot of ground to cover, so

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I'm going to go ahead and give the reins over

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to You're welcome to bring us back to the very

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beginning when all this stuff started happening for you.

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Yeah, absolutely, And you know, I've been on a few shows.

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Was privileged enough to be in there with a small

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town Monster group because of this experience. But I don't

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consider myself actually a researcher. I'm a hiker and a

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camper and a fisherman more than anything, but being down

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here in the land between the lakes basically my whole life.

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I feel like it was just bound to happen. I've

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always been interested in cryptids and paranormal and things of

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that nature, but had always also been the guy where

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I would need to see it to believe it. And

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back in twenty twenty, it's May tenth. I'll never forget

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it again. Big Fishermen's part of my life, part of

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the family's life. And we were out on the lake

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the day before, on May ninth, and it was springtime,

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so the weather was volatile and we just had a

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great Saturday and my infant daughter, it was bay. I

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think it might have been her first trip out. I

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know it was my wife's first trip out since COVID,

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and so that Saturday, man, it was such a neat time,

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and we got out on the main lake and when

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the water's low on Kentuckulate, there's sandbars and it's almost

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like being in a beach and the water's not warm

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enough you had to swim, but you could splash around.

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And I had my three daughters with me. Such a

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great day, so of course the Sunday came we wanted

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to go again, and man it was the wind was

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the main thing. And in Kentuckulate can get rough. It's

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a you know, you can see it on a map,

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so it's it's a pretty big lake. And I mean

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a map when you look at the entire United States,

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you can actually see those two lakes there, so it's sizable.

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And it got rough, and we went to this one

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little spot where I knew the wind the direction it

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was coming from, would not be a factor, but I

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wasn't sure good how good the fishing would be. And

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we drove down to two Mile Road. The boat ramp

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was closed actually, but there was a spot where they

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had put kayaks in and I put my boat in there.

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I'll tell you, I left my boat parked and my

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trailer in the water because I didn't want somebody else

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to come down and forced me to go around the

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federal barriers to actually get my boat out. And I

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ended up getting a ticket by the Force Service. But

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the events of the day that happened, I didn't really

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mind that. But anyway, we went out and tried to

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finish and it wasn't good. The waves kept us in

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this little cold so what we also liked to do

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is always have a fire and cook some hot dogs,

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and so we pulled up on a little rocky bank

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and it was not anywhere close to a beach. There

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was basically enough room for a meeting. It out my

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oldest daughter, she was the years fly by. She was

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fifteen or so at the time, and the little girls

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my wife and I had, I think my middle daughter

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was five or six there, and then, like I say,

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my youngest one was just an infant six seven eight

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months old. We did have her in life jackets and

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all the appropriate stuff, but they stayed in the boat.

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It was such a small little spot, and I built

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a fire and we were cooking hot dogs, and at

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one point I heard walking. And there's something called the

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North South Trail that runs through there, and I've done

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almost twelve all of it. It's divided into the north

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half and a south half, and I've done all of

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the north half multiple times. So it was in range,

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but somebody would have had to have been way off

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track to been walking up of where I heard them.

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So I just asked the girls to keep their eyes

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out and their ears open because I thought some people

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were coming up. And that's basically all that came of it,

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And so we were getting ready to leave, i'd say

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thirty minutes later, and our oldest daughter asked me, you know,

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what do you think happened to those people? And I said,

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I don't know. They probably saw that we were down here,

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it smell the smoke or something, and decided just to

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turn around. But I was getting ready to push the

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boat off. I've had to tie to a little tree,

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and we all heard a knock, a clear wood knock,

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and we'd all watch Finding Bigfoot in some of these

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shows that had been popularized by then, and you know,

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everybody just kind of looked up, and our oldest daughter said, Dad,

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what was that? And I thought it had to be

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people messing with this, So I said to her jokingly,

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well they'd say Bigfoot does that. When I look down,

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there was a stick I knew would be a good

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heart stick and would make a good knock. So it

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was just I took a knock on this little tree,

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and about one hundred yards down the bank, we heard

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another knock, and you know, they're kind of startled, and

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we had decided we were either going to go home

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or we were going to find another place to fish

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across this cove. But because we were hearing these knocks,

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we decided to go down the bank a little and

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look up in there where we heard the second knock

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and see what happened or what was going on. And man,

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I looked up in the get It's something you don't

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ever forget. I looked up there and there was a

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spot of sun that came all the way through the canopy.

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It wasn't real thick, but it was. There were leaves,

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but this sun spot was up there, and standing there

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was a bigfoot. And I said, there's bigfoot, and I'm pointing,

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and the girls where where? And I started. I had

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to watch the boat because we were getting close to

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some stomps and some logs and some sticks, and I

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didn't want to mess my prop up, so I was

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turning my wife where she could see it, and it

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actually ran away from where I turned the boat in

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the opposite direction, and I ended up. When I say turned,

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I'm basically spinning my boat in a circle in this

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small little cove. And so I spun around again and

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then it kind of came back towards us where the

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original knock was in the ridge we were on was,

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and they never could track it. It was so fast.

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I saw it going down into a gully and pull

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itself up. I saw its hand, and then it went

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on up into the trees, and the trees were shaking

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and the wind was blowing, but these trees were protected.

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And my oldest daughter did see the tree shaking because

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I was saying, you know, there's where it's going, where

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those trees are shaking, and we just kind of I

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put the boat in neutral and we drifted a little bit,

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and we're drifting down the bank and we're just kind

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of collecting our thoughts. I actually wanted to go across

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the lake and just fish a little more. You know.

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I was stunned, but I wasn't really scared. But as

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soon as I hit the engine, and so I was

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away from the bank, my ears ring all the time.

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It's called tonightis so I don't hear a lot of

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background noise, and I was turned looking away, which put

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my ear right to the engine. My girls were right

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on the bank and they both heard and what they

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described as guttural, frustrated screams, and they looked at each

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other at the same time and said each other, did

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you hear that? What was happening? My wife's hit me

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on the arm and she's saying get out of here,

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because something was still in the woods. It followed us

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down the bank and probably was not less than one

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hundred yards around the back of this code where my

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boat was sitting, where she thought that this thing might

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be coming around to meet us at the truck. So

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she was very, very adamant that we leave and get

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out of there. And as we were putting the boat

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on the trail, our vehicle was coming down the road

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and it was just a family. And so besides them

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and the obvious Force service people that we knew were

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there because of the ticket on my windshield, nobody else

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said you can hear them coming down this gravel road.

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So yeah, So we packed up and man I called

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up a guy named Charlie Raymond with the Kentucky Bigfoot

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Research Organization that night at eleven o'clock, and he called

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me right back and took my report. She gave me

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some great tips. He told me to draw a picture.

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I do a picture and just make notes. And it

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was a while before he could get back and do

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the actual investigation. But he came back in the fall

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and was gracious enough not only to take my report

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and want to be at the scene, but also take

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me up in the woods and kind of show me

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some stuff. Spent several hours up there. My oldest daughter

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went with us, and we pretty much are dead. Said

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now that there was two of them, and I think

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they smelled the hot dogs or the fire, and I

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really think one was knocking to the other one saying,

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you know, hold up a minute. I don't know what

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one knock means, but I know I got between their

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communication and if they had their heart set on eating

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or had that on their minds us seeing them I

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think really upsetting. So I think the second one was

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actually shaking the trees, maybe as a signal for that

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one to come on. But we found tracks that day.

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We found all kinds of sign It really opened up

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my eyes to what could be there, and it's still

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to this day. You know, I've had several encounters since then.

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I approached it as if I'm going to be in

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the woods with these things, I need to know what

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I can and can't do, where I can and can't go.

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I had heard all the creepy stories and experienced a

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few things in between the lakes since I guess I started.

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I moved down to this area in nineteen eighty eight

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to go to school in Marshall County, Kentucky, which is

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right there on the lake. But I had family down here,

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so every summer of my life I was down in

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this area. So I had heard the stuff and suspected things.

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But you know, there's no going back once something like

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this happens to you. And you know, I'd always thought

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I see a lot of these shows, and I know

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there's a lot of scary experiences, and a lot of

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people have these experiences, but most of them are alive

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to tell the tale. And after seeing that thing move,

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I know if it had wanted to get us, it

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would have gotten this. So I got some guidelines. I

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didn't go out by myself for a long time. Now

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I do in the daytime, I do not at night.

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I rarely go out at night, barely never by myself.

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I've been out with Charlie on an expedition and a

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few few groups and a couple of people I've taken

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that have podcasts and YouTube shows. But man, it's been a.

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It's been a neat thing for me. I think I

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have turned it into a positive. I'm fascinated by the outdoors.

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Like I said, that's always been a part of my life.

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I completely understand the people that go the opposite way

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and have the PTSD and the negative things. But I guess,

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you know, after that, going to find the Prince and

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just stepping into it, and again, Charlie was a great help.

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This whole bigfoot community. There's so many people that I've

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found that are just really mentors and really kind of

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happy that other people are seeing this stuff. It validates,

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you know, And that's why I came across your show.

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Of course on YouTube. I sit at my desk. I

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hope my boss isn't listening in it and listen to

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a lot of this stuff. I don't watch it all

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of course, I'm working, but it was just neat. It's

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really been a positive for me since.

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You know, since then, you've had other things happen, and

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we'll talk about that probably later. But over the years,

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have you had an idea of what bigfoot is as

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you start to get more knowledgeable and start to go

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out looking for it.

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Yeah, yeah, man, I tell you so. I'm a Christian

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and I do and I don't like to talk about

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it and brag about it. I know everybody's got levels

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of involvement. I don't just show up at church every

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once in a while. I'm very active. I've been able

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to play piano by ear about anything I want and

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sing a little bit since I was four, and so

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I share that at church, I play and sing a

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little bit. So it's it's a huge part of my life,

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is what I'm saying. And the outdoors is very much

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part of that and connected me that way. And I

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try to look look at Bigfoot and and anything really

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through that lens, and a lot of people tend to

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think that that's that's contradictory, But I think that the

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Bible is a supernatural, multi dimensional handbook.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

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Basically saying, Hey, there's a whole nother world that you

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can't see, and they cross over sometimes and there's there's

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a big picture here that you're a small part of.

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So I did think it was just a flesh and

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blood thing. I think it may still be with some

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abilities that we don't know about. But I'll tell you

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The very next experience I really had was finding a

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really large footprint that through the course of some podcasts

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and some mutual friends and it showed up in the

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Small Town Monster documentary. We've determined it was not actually

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a sasquatch. We've even had doctor Jeff Nolgrim kind of

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look at the video and the pictures of it, so

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you know, that's a whole other rabbit hole there with

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land between the lakes. But in doing that, the day

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I found it, me and my son were there. We

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found it, I covered it up. I went back two

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days later with another friend of mine, lifelong friend from

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high school, and he was really interested in this, and

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while we were letting the plaster, I said, well, let's

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just go check this ridge out. So this was all

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new to me, and I really like to know the areas.

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I'm sitting here looking at topographical maps of the entire

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land between the lakes that of course printed out and

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go buy. So I was interested in the topography, of course.

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And there's a lot of old roads. You know, there's

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been settlements there, you know, if you know the story,

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there was towns there. So there's cool stuff. I know

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where there's a model t for example, that's still pretty

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intact sitting up there. We found that this day. But

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on the way back he found what he thought was

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a footprint on this little knole, and we've had some interactions.

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We thought, you know, you can talk yourself into everything's

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big foot. You hear these things, and we're having fun

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with it. But he bent down and we heard a

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jump down this ridge. You could feel it hit and

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you could feel the footsteps, no mistaken that bipedal heavy footsteps.

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We kind of take about ten more steps because we

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knew we were going to be able to see this

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thing running through this wide open forest. And it's it's

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wintertime now, so there's you can see several hundred yards

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in a lot of these places and there's nothing there.

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It's it's just gone. And that has happened to my

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wife and I before. I do have a picture that

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I took of one I saw running on the ridge

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and I snapped three shots and I've got what I

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know to be ducking behind a tree and kind of peeking,

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and I actually went up there the next weekend. I

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took my wife to get a comparison shot of me

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in the photo to show that there was room for

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a man's size thing, and there wasn't a stump or anything,

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but I was not aiming. I saw this thing running

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and just held my phone up and where I found

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the pictures were way off in the frame, almost out

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of the frame because it covered so much ground in

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a mere second. So I don't know if they're disappearing,

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or if they're actually that fast, or if they can

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cloak or what, but they do tend to disappear. And

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so these people that say they're multi dimensional, I have

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to believe as a Christian in another dimension, and that's

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well documented in the Bible, Old and New Testament about

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angeels and people coming in and out of another realm

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into this realm. So I don't have a problem being

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believing any of that.

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If that answers the question, No, it definitely does. And

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I'm a Christian as well too. Listeners of the show

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will know that because I've said it in different shows before.

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I really like the way that you put that, where, yeah,

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we believe that there's another it's so weird to think

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about that. I've never thought of it that way, but

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we literally do that there is another dimension that sometimes

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we see. That's wild. Yeah, it's absolutely true. Man, that's

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gonna that's gonna mess in my head tonight for.

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Quite a while. I'm sorry, No, I love it.

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That's that's so cool man. Like you know, you think

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of the story of the stories of the angels and

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the demons in the Bible, and it's like, yeah, stuff

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is still going on today, man, but absolute, absolute, that's wild,

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wild stuff. So that was what was it the time

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frame on that again where you would feel something jumped

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down the ridge?

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Yeah, that well, what had happened after mine, So that

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would have been late that would have been either late

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twenty twenty or early twenty twenty one. It was the

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winner and and again then it happened. I mean, I've

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had experiences this February. This past February, my wife actually

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had her first sighting. Now it was from some time away.

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But you get into these areas and I tell you what,

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I purposely went. I purposely go to other areas to

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validate that I'm not finding things and I'm not thinking

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everything is a sash quarts or a big foot or

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some type of side. And I mean I fight miles.

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I go at least five miles on a short day

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trip and sometimes get into double digits. If I'm out

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all day and I'm off track, I say, usually start

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near a trailer a road, but you really got to

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get off track to see a lot of this stuff.

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Sometimes the elevations here above sea level. The lake sits

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at three hundred and sixty feet, and some of the

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hills are up around six hundred feet at the peak.

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So sometimes I'm climbing hundred feet, which won't impress a

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lot of the real mountain folk, but it's I'm fifty two.

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It makes me huff and buff a little. But yeah,

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so I've had. That's when that one was, and then

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I've had. Basically, I don't get out much in the

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in the summertime. If there's listeners here around this area.

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I don't know if other areas are as bad as

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land between the lakes or not, but there are things

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that will bite you. You can't see them, you don't

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know what they are, where they came from. If you

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get out in the summertime, basically June, July, August, September,

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I don't really go, and if I do, I don't

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get off the trailer in the bush. But then the

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winter comes October definitely through March till the fish start biting.

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So October, November, December, January, February, March. I'm out there

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every weekend, sometimes multiple times a week, and again I

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can almost guarantee in this one area I and I

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don't take a lot of people there because I really

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think there's a group that lives there, and I don't

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want a bunch of people running through there hollering and

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knocking on trees and just acting a fool. You know,

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they might laugh at us, I think a lot. But yeah,

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I've got an area, man, where I can I'll find

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the prints and the tree structures fascinate me. I'm telling

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you there's something to that. I don't know if it's

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just their artwork, if there's a there's different areas where

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you'll find large ones. And then on these witchtops you'll

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find it's almost like children are juveniles, just like a

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kindergartener with doodle and doodle on the walls. And as always,

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I mean, you find these intricate weaved things that I

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doubt there's a lot of Blair Witch fans up there

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in the you know, two miles off the track, three

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hundred feet up, just waiting for me to maybe see

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this one day.

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So I know that it's not your story, but you

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did mention that your wife was able to have her

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first sighting. Yeah, is that anything that you would be

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able to to share what happened in that situation?

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Sure? Sure, And it's a it's a culmination of several experiences.

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I in fact, I tell her we're gonna we're gonna

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hear one scream at us if she's in the boat

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or she's around, because that had happened multiple times, and

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so I can give you some background on that leading

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up to her actual sighting. We were in the boat.

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This was last year, last spring, in the back of

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a bay, and I fish. You might can tell if

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I keep talking. I like to have the place to myself.

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I don't like a lot of people around then, so

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I fish also where there's not a lot of people fishing.

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I hike where there's not a lot of people like

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And so we're back in this bay and it was

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close I guess it was almost June, late May, early June,

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so the boating traffic was picking up, the water was

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getting warm enough to swim and ski, and there's been

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a lot of boat traffic that day. And my daughter

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a middle daughter was just figuring out how sound traveled

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on the water, and she'd hear a boat that she

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think was coming from one direction and it'd actually be

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coming from another. And I'm an athletic director and soccer

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coach now, but I've got over ten years in the classrooms.

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I'm a teacher by heart, and definitely with my own children.

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And he got laid and I asked her if she

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really knew what an echo was, or if she'd heard

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an echo, and she didn't so not. I'm telling you,

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if I had a recorder going, this sound would be

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on every show that's on TV, in every podcast. It

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was so good that we were not thinking Bigfoot at all.

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So I just I let out this womb really loud,

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and it's bouncing off the off the hills, and then

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right behind us we hear this whoop and you can

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hear the peace sound and it was close. It was

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in a little we were in a little creek, and

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it didn't sound like it was too far down the creek.

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And when that came, kyote started going and the woods

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got kind of wild, and then all of a sudden,

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off off in the distance on another ridge, you hear

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this just this. Ah, I'm obviously not doing it loud.

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I don't want to blow the speaker out here, but

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it was very loud, and even the creek hats stopped,

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the frog stopped. The entire area got spooky, and the

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girls are just looking at like, okay, that that was something.

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Let's let's go, and we did. We left. We had

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a few more encounters like that. We've noticed they'll actually

456
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whistle at you. They're very cureou and in the daytime

457
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:06.119
they're whistling. My middle daughter has actually gotten some responses.

458
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.079
And we had a boat beached one day and I

459
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.559
just some rocks slipped down there. It was a steep

460
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.160
bank above us, and I knew that was odd. And

461
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.000
my little daughter, she's four now, she will swear she

462
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:24.079
saw Bigfoot's legs. She says it yegg of course. But

463
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.319
I'm giving you the background when all these real close

464
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:31.240
things were happening. And I've had probably six or seven

465
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.960
good sightings, and my wife is just like she's so frustrated.

466
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.599
She say, man, I can hear them and I know

467
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.240
that's them, and I just I want to see one.

468
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.359
And she really wanted to see one from the safety

469
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.440
of the boat. She felt and she's kind of uneasy still,

470
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.680
but she's so curious, and I think that's what these

471
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:54.720
experiences do to people. But we were out hiking. We

472
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.279
had hiked up a place that I've got a place

473
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:01.480
where in the last couple of years, I'm saying a

474
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:07.839
lot and not you know, just peekers, mostly peakers around

475
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.519
the tree. So that's what we went to do. We

476
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.200
were cooking. We did our standard thing, we cooked our

477
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.599
hot dogs. And I noticed you get a lot of

478
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.960
activity on the way in at first, or the way out.

479
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.000
Definitely on the way out more. But we were going

480
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:28.720
in and I've got this a feeling and we stop

481
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.079
every once in a while. I stop in certain places

482
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:35.000
and just I usually wear similar clothes and just follow

483
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.680
a pattern to maybe let them know that it's me.

484
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.240
I don't know that that's you know, I've never had

485
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.559
one walk up and looking in the eye and us

486
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.319
kind of get to know each other and nothing like that.

487
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.440
But I feel like they may know people and their

488
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.799
intentions or different groups. That may just be me reading

489
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:56.680
into it. But We're stopped at a spot and I

490
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.400
looked over and I saw the head come around there.

491
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:04.359
It was probably definitely over one hundred yards away, and

492
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.720
I said to my wife, Okay, look over my right shoulder,

493
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.440
and I'll tell you what, if you get your phone out,

494
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.200
I'm convinced they know you're taking pictures or that you're

495
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.200
doing something that I don't think they like it. So

496
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.240
I didn't get anything out until after she saw it,

497
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.960
and when it moved, she's like, there it is again,

498
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.440
and you can tell it's something six seven feet tall,

499
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.720
it's up a tree, it's and then it kind of

500
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.359
I got my phone out, and I've got again a

501
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:39.000
couple of pictures where you can see there's a dot there,

502
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.039
and then the very next picture there's no dot there,

503
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.759
but it's that far away. So I don't show that

504
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.480
stuff too, because you know, people want to slam dunk

505
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:51.839
the slam dunk photo, and I really don't know that

506
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.720
that would make a difference to a lot of people

507
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.480
even if you had that. But yeah, she was. She

508
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:01.519
was for the moment. She was like stunned and happy.

509
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.200
But then as we got to walking back, she's like,

510
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.720
now you've seen them a lot closer than that, So

511
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.079
I think now she's on a mission to actually get

512
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.119
get a little closer and see another one. But she's

513
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.640
you could tell her demeanor and thinks she was it was.

514
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.720
It was neat. It was neat because you can believe

515
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.599
it and you can be around it. But it's still

516
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.799
it's still to this day when I usually see just

517
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:26.640
one a year.

518
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.400
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

519
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.400
I'd say probably one a year, maybe a little more.

520
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.400
And they're just letting me see them. They're just letting

521
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.880
me see them in this one in this one area.

522
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.200
So but yeah, yeah, we're we're looking forward to the

523
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.200
to the when football Season'm actually a soccer coach. I'm

524
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.519
in my season right now. Is my twenty fourth year

525
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:09.680
doing that in Kentucky. So football and soccer in Kentucky,

526
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.160
we wrap up in October November, and we're ready to

527
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.039
get out. We were talking about today when I was

528
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.440
telling her about the interview tonight, and she's like, man,

529
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:20.799
I'm ready to get back out in the woods and

530
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.559
get a better sighting than that than that one I had.

531
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.279
That's really cool because it probably helps the both of

532
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.400
you connect a little bit better when like you are

533
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.680
probably talking to your family about what happens out in

534
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.359
the woods, and once you know she's able to like, Okay,

535
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.599
I get it now in a different way. Yeah, what

536
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.079
would be the closest you think that you've ever gotten

537
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:49.799
to a bigfoot before?

538
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.319
Okay? And so this is neat. So when when Charlie

539
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.079
came down, we got a range funder and you can

540
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:02.119
see this on Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization's YouTube. You got

541
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:04.400
to scroll down. He called it the beast of LBL.

542
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.720
But I take him out in the boat and it's

543
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:12.599
my first interview investigation anything really with bigfoot, and we

544
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:17.079
put a guy up there in the spot. He raine

545
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.000
finds us in the video at eighty yards away, but

546
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.079
he edited it out when I didn't get as close.

547
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.880
The water was actually lower when we were there, so

548
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:33.079
we estimated it was sixty yards when it was standing

549
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.680
by the tree and about thirty eight to forty yards

550
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.440
when it came down to the gully. There's been one

551
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:46.039
other time when I was and again fishing. I'm way back,

552
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:50.400
I'm in the daytime, and I'm up against a fallen tree,

553
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.720
almost camouflaged, and I hear it and I look up

554
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.039
and it's walking right past me. It's walking right past me,

555
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.440
and it walked and it was probably again that was

556
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.480
a thirty to forty yard one and it walked into

557
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.559
a little grove and I was trying to get my

558
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.519
troll and motor to get in position where I could

559
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:16.240
actually film it. And I dropped my troller motor and

560
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.359
made a loud rattle and it looked up and then

561
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.920
it was gone. And it's sometimes it's weird. You can

562
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.200
hear them walking or running away, but sometimes it's completely silent,

563
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:31.519
almost like they're levitating or something. So those two times

564
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.160
thirty yards to forty yards, and then the rest of

565
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.799
the time you're looking at one hundred yards or so.

566
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.079
And again most of the time it's peaking. We had

567
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.720
an encounter with my wife where the one where it

568
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.920
disappeared on us. We were up on a ridge. I

569
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.119
carried my daughter. I'm going to stop now, she's getting

570
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.599
old enough to walk, but going up the hills when

571
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.039
we're hiking, I would put my youngest one on my

572
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:02.640
shoulders and my pack. It doesn't exceed thirty pounds by

573
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.839
day pack, but she was thirty or forty. So I'm

574
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.840
climbing up these hills with you know, sixty seventy pounds

575
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.679
on me. Well, she knew I was getting ready to

576
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.519
put her down when we got to the top, and

577
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.320
when I set her down, she started screaming. And I

578
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:21.400
don't know if it startled this thing or what, but

579
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.480
something jumped down the hill. You can hear it running off.

580
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.480
It went down into a covert. We couldn't see it.

581
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.360
There's actually a video of this. Brian king Sharp posted

582
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:38.320
this on me on his Sasquatch Odyssey YouTube. I took

583
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.480
a video of us walking out and my little daughter

584
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:43.400
passed out as soon as my wife picked her up.

585
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.199
She's asleep with my wife carrying her. But so we

586
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.559
stayed up on this ridge and this road took us

587
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.400
all the way out to a what's called a main road,

588
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.800
a connector road. Still gravel, still all gravel. But evidently

589
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.679
this thing stayed with us down in the gully, which

590
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.639
is odd. And when we got to resting, we heard

591
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.360
it and my wife went up the up the road

592
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.960
a little bit and I just looked up and it's

593
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.280
standing there. And this is the only one that when

594
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.199
I looked at it, I really thought, this thing wants

595
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.440
us out of here. And it was probably inside one

596
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.440
hundred i'd say probably fifty to sixty yards and it's

597
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.239
standing there. I actually went, and it left two prints

598
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.480
by the tree it was at, and I looked up

599
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.519
at the road and my wife can tell she she's

600
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.280
now that it, but she's like, you're looking at one

601
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.280
and she's lip reading and I'm trying to signal to her.

602
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.559
And it always happened. We had not seen anybody all day,

603
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:44.760
and then you can hear this, this four wheeler and

604
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.119
this ATV coming down the road, and I looked up

605
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:53.239
and the thing was gone. So but now I get

606
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.079
a lot of people. We'll see stuff online and whatever

607
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.920
videos a lot of my friends and it's funny. A

608
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.760
lot of them tease me about it, and I completely understand.

609
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.000
I say, you're free to think I'm as crazy as

610
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.920
you want to think I am. But then a lot

611
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.400
of them will tell me. You know, years ago, I

612
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.960
had a guy tell me about a pre Patterson Gimblin

613
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.159
sighting right around here. A guy at church. He waved

614
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.119
me down. He'd seen one of something on YouTube and

615
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.199
he said, Mike, are you serious? Have you seen this thing? Yes, sir,

616
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.440
and he said, well, I've never told many people this,

617
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:34.960
but my grandfather years ago was heading down down on

618
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.239
our property and this is real close to my house. Actually. Now,

619
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.719
we have a couple of little rivers in some creek

620
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.559
systems that actually run into Berkley Lake. If you stayed

621
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.559
in the creek, you could get right to Berkeley Lake

622
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.119
and Obiel. So I don't know if there's a connection.

623
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.639
We're twenty probably twenty miles away. But he said he

624
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.760
was down going down to the barn by this creek.

625
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.760
The groundhogs had gotten in the barn and he was

626
00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:59.639
just going to shoot some you know, this is back

627
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:03.159
in the fifties. And then his old dog that was

628
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:07.800
supposedly really loyal, really good dog, stopped at the edge

629
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.440
of this creek and was barking and ground and would

630
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.480
not come. And he thought that was odd because this

631
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.400
dog's real obedient. So he walked over. He said it

632
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.039
smelled like rotten fish, and so he just thought that

633
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.559
somebody had thrown some fish down in the creek or something.

634
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:29.599
He said, he looked up and the bushes parted, and

635
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:35.320
this hairy ape like eight foot tall monster looked at him,

636
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.440
kind of puffed at him, and walked off. And he

637
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.599
told everybody, and the reason this guy was telling me

638
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.920
this his grandfather's long passed. But he said, I think

639
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.000
I'm the only one that believes him. It changed his grandfather,

640
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.199
how he even operated on his own farm. And he

641
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.880
remembered when I guess it was the early seventies on

642
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.960
in search of when Leonard Nimoy and the Patterson get

643
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.599
until happened to be on when the whole family was

644
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.400
there at his grandfather's house, and he remembers his grandfather going,

645
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.480
I told y'all, I told y'all, there it is. That's

646
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.760
exactly what I saw. That's it. And he said he

647
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.079
would never forget the feeling of how his grandfather felt

648
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.039
vindicated and his family kind of I don't think they

649
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:21.920
still believed him.

650
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.440
That's an incredible side account. I love those ones where

651
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.199
it's like a pre Patterson gimlin is. It's so rare

652
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.840
to hear them because usually those individuals are getting up

653
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.239
there in years, so you being able to share it

654
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.960
secondhand is pretty special for sure.

655
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:42.639
Oh.

656
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.239
Absolutely, being out in the woods quite a bit, and

657
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.719
you know, you hear about LBL has some really weird

658
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.480
stuff associated with it at times. Do you feel that

659
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.199
anything has ever followed you home? You get home and

660
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.119
there's weird stuff that occurs, or is that something that

661
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:06.440
thankfully you don't have to worry about well.

662
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:12.039
I'll tell you what, man, and not until this last year,

663
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.239
And this is one of the things I think I'm

664
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:21.159
struggling with right now. And I haven't taken many pictures. Yes,

665
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.480
to answer your question. Yes, I was out with Charlie

666
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:29.199
one night on an expedition and this was October twenty

667
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:34.239
twenty one or twenty twenty two, I can't remember. And

668
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:41.159
we saw some orbs and they look like headlights of hikers.

669
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.800
But you know, I know that area real well, especially

670
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.639
the area I'm in in the Kentucky Lakes side north

671
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.320
of sixty eight. I don't know it like the back

672
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.519
of my hand, but I know it pretty well. And

673
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.679
I'm really comfortable even navigating the night without a flashlighting

674
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.719
a lot of areas. So he seems these lights come in.

675
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.679
I said, man, they would have to be about fifty

676
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.000
feet off the ground for us to be seeing them.

677
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.880
That's a big open field close to the way Charlie

678
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.000
and they disappeared. And that was my first time hearing

679
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.039
about this association with this. And then what was weird

680
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.519
is later on and this was the night that I

681
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.599
think you've had Larry Sidwell on your show. This was

682
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:29.320
the night Larry had his first sighting. Doctor John was there.

683
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.440
He was actually in my truck. I drove him to

684
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.599
this site. We were all at and there was a

685
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.840
sighting of one and a friend of mine named Ray

686
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.119
and I were away from where the sighting was maybe

687
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.119
a quarter of a mile, and we heard the conversation

688
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:51.559
the samurai talk. They talk about down in an area,

689
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.719
so we assumed there was at least two. So it

690
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.320
was weird that we saw three orbs and then there

691
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:03.719
was maybe three different subjects in that area. They were

692
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.320
experienced by us. So I got into that. I haven't

693
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.679
been back when I was into this initially, and again

694
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.400
this is twenty one, twenty two. I was going to

695
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.800
my area twice a week, three times a week, as

696
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:22.679
much as I could. And again I think they knew

697
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.280
I was there and I was leaving. I've got a

698
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.760
log rally fifteen rocks on and I leave them in

699
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.920
a different pattern, and then I would get back and

700
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:34.599
they'd be in a different pattern. I'd leave them candy

701
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:38.039
bars or granola bars sometimes, and they don't like grass

702
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.800
Chrishby treats for whatever reason. The ones here don't like those.

703
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:43.920
But so I was doing a lot of that, and

704
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:48.320
then I stopped. I got really really busy, and I

705
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.239
noticed on my little property, I've got five acres, I've

706
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.119
got a really nice little spot. I've got a little

707
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.639
three acre spot where there's a spring coming out of

708
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.440
the rock. It runs year round, runs maybe one hundred

709
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.519
yards a little more, and it runs down into a

710
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.559
hole in the ground. They call this area of Sinking Fork,

711
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:12.280
and that spring goes into us called Little River, which

712
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:16.199
is a tributary of Berkley Lake. And I'm surrounded by

713
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.000
probably two hundred acres of farmland. There's a few houses around,

714
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:25.679
but there's enough creek and dense wooded area where something

715
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.920
could stay in it, and none of us around here

716
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.079
would see them if they didn't want to be seen.

717
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.679
But I'm down there, I find a lot of arrowheads

718
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:37.079
and a lot of Indian Native American artifaction. I noticed

719
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.480
what they call glyphs. There's some kind of tree structures,

720
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.960
and I was baffled by it. And I even went

721
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:49.480
as far as to seek out some people that believe

722
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:54.199
in fairies and know about ferries and things and send

723
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.519
them some pictures. And they said, no, this is not that,

724
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:01.920
and everybody get fat of this. This looks like foot So

725
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.440
I've been quietly. I didn't want to worry about life.

726
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.199
I let it happen a while. I would start moving

727
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:11.840
them in different ways. I left some bread down there.

728
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.559
The guy named barreled it and told me they're like bread.

729
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.559
And I left the bag of bread tied way up

730
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:22.039
in a tree, and something untied the bag, got the

731
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.760
bread out and tied the bag back in a different way.

732
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.320
And just this past week, at the end of my house,

733
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.199
that's where the entrance is to my dog pin, I've

734
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.039
got about it. It's one hundred long, it's one hundred

735
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.800
feet of fence in a square, so it's ten thousand

736
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.360
square foot yard we keep them in. And I was

737
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.320
going out there right in front of the gate. Something's

738
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:52.800
been leaving xus and again different. What really got with

739
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.079
this one is it was under a portion of it

740
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:02.079
was under our metal roof porch there. So yeah, so

741
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.760
I don't know if that's mine from laying between the

742
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:06.800
lakes that missed me and they just wanted to come

743
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:11.519
interact or what this is. But it's strange, and I'm

744
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:15.679
finding out it's fairly common in this realm. So I'm

745
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.199
not spooked by it, but I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued.

746
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.079
And you said this is just in the last week

747
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:22.400
or so.

748
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.559
Yeah, that the new one I found and it's been

749
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.159
going on about a year is when I it was

750
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.760
about a year ago. But it was weird. Well, what

751
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.199
was weird about it is I broke my summer rule

752
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:43.320
and my wife's sister was in from New York and

753
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.880
so the days are running through. This would have been

754
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.519
early August, and she wanted to go. She'd heard about

755
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:53.559
all this stuff, so she wanted to go in there,

756
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.079
and we hiked and had a great day. And I

757
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.039
did get covered in kicks and no even though I

758
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:05.440
had genes on and all kinds of spray and everything.

759
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.559
But it was just weird that I had made a

760
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:13.679
pretty recent trip in there and now these things are

761
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.119
back up close to the house.

762
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.519
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

763
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.199
You know, I don't know. I'd love to hear some

764
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.480
input on that. Maybe I consider myself a rookie man.

765
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.760
This is just this is just four years for me.

766
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.920
I'm intrigued, and I'm happy to help people that come

767
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.280
in this area because I do know there is some

768
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.239
dangerous stuff. You know. The craziest thing when I started

769
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.440
running around obl that most of the people said was

770
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.360
watch out for the old cisterns and wells and septic

771
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:11.639
tanks and unmarked pitfalls that are out there. And that

772
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:15.039
is obviously true. So when when somebody calls me and says, hey,

773
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.360
i'm will you take me out or I'm going to

774
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.920
go out by myself anyway, I'm glad to do it

775
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.360
just for safety reasons. But I don't know that I

776
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:28.480
ever want to be like a researcher or anything like that.

777
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.000
It was need to be a small town monsters. Joe

778
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.280
Doyle with HELBN Holler. He and I are getting to

779
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:36.239
be really good friends, and he tells me all the time,

780
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:37.840
you got to get out and do some of this stuff.

781
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.159
I don't really. It would cut into my fishing time.

782
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:45.039
It's basically the short version, and I still want to

783
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.239
fish more than I want to get out there. But

784
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:53.480
it's I don't know, man, it's need. It keeps getting

785
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:54.760
forced on me for some reason.

786
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.599
Yeah, it's it's definitely a thing where, especially if it's

787
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:03.000
starting to show up at your house, on your own property,

788
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:07.760
just just be very very aware of these things. You know,

789
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.519
talking to people for a few years, you start to

790
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:18.039
see patterns that arise of things that might happen when

791
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:22.559
it starts showing up at your house. Yeah, I just

792
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.000
remember the power you have as a believer, you know.

793
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:30.559
Oh, yes, oh, you're aware of that. Absolutely. I don't

794
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.760
actually you know, you know Martin Grove, I've gotten to

795
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.519
know him well. Sure, he's an expert in that area,

796
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:43.000
and let me know right away, a lot of those things.

797
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.800
Yeah, I don't know. I I myself am still learning

798
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.840
a lot. And I'm convinced that man, there's some of

799
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:56.519
some of these interviews, I feel like some of these

800
00:47:56.519 --> 00:48:01.360
guys are not bringing back Bigfoot to their home, but

801
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.880
they're bringing back something else. To be honest, absolutely, that's

802
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:07.719
that's pretty scary stuff, you know.

803
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.159
Yes, yes, yes, you're correct, yep, yep. And that's why

804
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.880
I haven't given it too much energy and haven't really

805
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.280
put that much into it. And you know, I was

806
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.639
fortunate enough as I had a paranormal experience at Waverley

807
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:28.079
Hills and and with my ex wife where I turned

808
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.239
into us from a skeptic to a believer real quick.

809
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.800
And he had gotten into the paranormal kind of thing,

810
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.639
and so I think that prepared me. Had I not

811
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.960
had that experience in my life, I don't know that

812
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.639
this big foot stuff had have gone real well, but

813
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.119
I learned with that, and I think it's true here

814
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.239
A lot of times you open the door. And I

815
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.039
used the Alaska reference a lot, even though I've never been,

816
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.159
and I've always wanted to. You can leave your cabin

817
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.639
door open in Alaska and a lot of really neat,

818
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.480
nice things will probably come usy, But a grizzly bear

819
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:08.920
could also come usy through that same door. And so I,

820
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.480
as a Christian and a believer in those I don't

821
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:15.440
open any doors intentionally. I'll tell you that.

822
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.559
That's a really good way to put it. Actually, one

823
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.599
thing I wanted to ask you is, because we are

824
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:26.440
in focused on this one area, have you ever had

825
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:31.880
any interactions with anything else besides bigfoot in this area?

826
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.840
Yes? Yes, and that's you know, it was neat to

827
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.679
see the faces of I'm weird. I tell people it

828
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.199
sounds it sounds funny, but if you spend some time

829
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.679
with me, I'm just I'm in tune with things a

830
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:48.559
lot of times, and I've learned to really trust my gut,

831
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.639
and it's not a supernatural thing. I don't think. I

832
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.760
think it's just well, I don't know, but I remember

833
00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:01.519
telling them I did not know any of locations for

834
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:07.719
like the massacre in eighty two. One of my contributions

835
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.480
to the small town Monsters thing is I validated that

836
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.400
that rumor was going around and that story was their

837
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.800
pre Internet because a lot of people think that's just

838
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:24.440
an Internet invention. And I told them in high school,

839
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.159
I was camping. Well, no, we didn't even get there.

840
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.360
And this story, I don't know if it made the

841
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:33.920
cut in the movie or not. I can't remember. But

842
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.639
I was one of the four where I worked at

843
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.599
a place called the Nand's as a restaurant, and I

844
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.400
was one of about four guys there that were really,

845
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:49.000
really active, and we used to skip school and go

846
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.920
to the land between the lakes and we would all

847
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.679
hunt squirrel hunts a lot. I didn't do a lot

848
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:59.920
of deer hunting, but I guess to people listening outside Kentucky,

849
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:05.000
there's a stereotype and everybody here is an outdoorsman or

850
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:09.039
a hunter, and to some degree that's true. But me

851
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:11.960
and these other guys, we were really that's what we did.

852
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.440
And so we used to go to the assistant manager's

853
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.480
house about every Friday and Saturday night and just have

854
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.320
a party. And she was not contributing to the delinquency

855
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.960
of miners. Not everybody there was a minor, but she

856
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.039
just felt like it was a safe place and she

857
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:34.440
didn't want us all running around. And it was really cool,

858
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.719
but it was a strain on her. And so they

859
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:41.920
decided one night we were going to go camping, and

860
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.639
they went out during the day and set this stuff

861
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.519
up at this location. I don't remember because when I

862
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.119
got there it was night, but it was around the

863
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:57.840
Mumber's Bay. And my contribution. I had a van and

864
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.719
I had a big farm. We had eighty acres there,

865
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:01.880
and I had a lot of firewood. So even though

866
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:05.079
you're in LBL and we could have gathered wood, you know,

867
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.559
nice good split firewood. So I was going to bring

868
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.880
some firewood and stuff. And I got to work because

869
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.280
we were all going to do this after work, and

870
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.519
they were like, Mike, you've got to go get all

871
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.840
our stuff. We're not camping tonight. And I didn't really

872
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.320
understand why, and they didn't tell me why. They were

873
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.960
just like just please go right now. I mean the manager,

874
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.159
and the manager let me off work. I did this

875
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:33.119
when I should have been working. Just please go right

876
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.039
now before it gets too dark and too late, so

877
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.880
I know you will get back. Take God named Craig

878
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.239
with Take Craig with you. He knew what it was.

879
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:44.320
I did a lot of times that at that time.

880
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.360
I always had a pistol. Most of us had to

881
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.800
hunt and right or a pistol or something in our

882
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.079
in our vehicles. And they they specifically asked, you know,

883
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.719
do you have your pistol? And they well, yeah, of

884
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.320
course you're not allowed to carry over there, but I

885
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.280
had it in the glovebox. But anyway, I was still

886
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:07.480
laughing about this. And we get down this road and

887
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.119
there's all the stuff, and Craig had told me on

888
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:13.760
the way that they had heard something and he was

889
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.599
calling it a wampus cat. And I still don't know

890
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.400
what a wampus cat is. But we get out there.

891
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.079
There's just a few chairs. I don't even think they

892
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.000
had any tents set up. There might have been a

893
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:29.280
few impacts, wasn't much stuff. The folding an old folding

894
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.800
card table. We're packing this stuff up and from across

895
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:37.880
the bay and you hear this, what's I thought it

896
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.119
was a mountain lion. Had I had grown up a

897
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:45.639
little bit. It's been four years in DC and end

898
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.599
up in the Shenandoah River in West Virginia. My dad

899
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.800
always took his canoe and stuff, and sometimes we'd stay

900
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.480
out as much as a week. So I had heard

901
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:57.679
mountain lion screams, so I thought this was a mountain line.

902
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.119
But it was coming at us, and Craig was like, oh,

903
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.840
smitty snitty, that's we got to get this is getting card,

904
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.760
that's it, that's it. It's coming for us. And you know,

905
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.920
I thought maybe we were by a till that we

906
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.159
couldn't see and it was just coming around and trying

907
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.239
to defend a deer down. So I still didn't think

908
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:18.679
much of it, and we got out of there. And

909
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.199
it was a few months later that I remember, I

910
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.480
believe it was the same assistant manager asking me, did

911
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:30.840
you hear about what happened to those people over there?

912
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.880
And that's the first time I had heard about the

913
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.440
family being massacred, and it was in that same area.

914
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.559
So I had been to De Mumber's Bay in the

915
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:47.719
daytime maybe once or twice more since then trying to fish,

916
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.159
and I just feel weird. And so I told the

917
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.960
small town Monster's crew, and I'd already confessed to them

918
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.000
that I was more of a bigfoot guy I had.

919
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.360
I had experienced that experience I had. I had a

920
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.840
weird experience with ghosts and orbs and just being around there.

921
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:06.639
But I was not into the dog man thing. But

922
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.280
we were looking at some stuff on a map and

923
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:12.679
I said, oh, yeah, I don't go to the Mumber's Bay,

924
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.920
and as a votres someone why not, And I said,

925
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.280
I get a weird feeling over there. And she said, well,

926
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:21.599
that's where we get all of our dog man sidings

927
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:23.719
and encounters, and a lot of them are right in

928
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:25.920
that area. And I said, yeah, I don't. I don't

929
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:27.960
like it, so I don't. It makes me feel bad.

930
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:33.480
So I had that experience that night we were with Charlie.

931
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:35.599
When I was with Charlie when we saw the orbs,

932
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:39.719
we were in the cemetery and we're sitting there and

933
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:44.519
I can see it's weird. People that have this ability

934
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:48.360
will know sometimes, like if I say to you right now,

935
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.280
the Statue of Liberty A picture of the Statue of liberty.

936
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.199
It pops in your head. We can all see it.

937
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.079
I've never been there, I can see it. So sometimes

938
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.800
when people are connected with things, you get things like

939
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.800
that that are in your mind, and then sometimes you

940
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:09.599
actually physically see stuff. I looked back and physically saw

941
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:14.800
a shadow person in this cemetery, and I told Charlie.

942
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.280
I said, all right, Charlie's gonna think I'm funny, but

943
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.079
there's something back there. And he's like, oh, you know,

944
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.519
he's bigfoot, Bigfoot, Bigfoot. I said, no, it's not bigfoot man.

945
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:29.199
So we walked through the cemetery and right there there's

946
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:34.320
a tombstone. The guy's last name is Banister. The tombstone

947
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:38.159
has a crack through it and it says murdered and

948
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:43.920
he was shot through his window in the thirties and died.

949
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:47.079
We did his death reports online. We did that. I

950
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:51.000
believe it's Richard Banister. And Charlie's just kind of looking

951
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.960
at me and he's like, you saw him. I said,

952
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:54.440
I don't know if it was him, but I just

953
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.840
saw a shadow walking back here. We went back. I

954
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.599
went back with my son. I think it was the

955
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:04.519
next week. My son works midnights and he doesn't get

956
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.320
a lot of time off, and he had to ask off,

957
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:10.079
so it may have been two weeks later, and I

958
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:11.800
took him there and we took our little k two

959
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:14.719
meters that you see on the ghost shows, and something

960
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:18.159
was talking to us. And again I don't ever attach

961
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:22.000
any emotion to this. I will say, is there something

962
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.119
here that would like to speak to us? You know

963
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.320
a lot of people when you have somebody pass away,

964
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.000
and I do believe your loved ones can come back

965
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.679
and interact with you. I do believe that. But a

966
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:36.840
lot of times something will happen in your house and

967
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.320
you'll pour all that emotion and you'll be like, mom,

968
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:42.920
is that you Well, it's not your mom, but now

969
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.559
you've allowed it to connect to you. And so I

970
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:48.760
knew all those rules. So we didn't do that. But

971
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:52.199
as we were sitting there, we heard something walking. This

972
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.719
cemetery is just basically a square. It's got a chain

973
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:57.159
leak fence around it, but it's back in the woods

974
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.920
and we heard something walking and I said, you know,

975
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:03.840
that's probably a big for a walking by. And then

976
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:06.079
we went to the other corner and we heard it

977
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.079
walking around the back and I'm like, okay, it's just

978
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.079
it's passing by. Let's get on out of here. So

979
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:14.480
we came up to the up to the gate at

980
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.039
the front of the cemetery where it should have been

981
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.079
going away, and we hear it walking towards us, and

982
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:22.599
so I looked at him, and we had a little

983
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.320
fire going by the truck, and the truck was, I

984
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.199
don't know, fifteen feet away. So I said, let's just

985
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.320
go over by the truck. And we're on the tailgate

986
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.320
of the truck and we hear something now back on

987
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.559
that other side, and it was a growl. It was

988
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:44.480
a low gut oral and he looked at me and

989
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:48.079
I said, get in the truck side, and we got

990
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:52.199
out of it. And we didn't we didn't go back,

991
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.800
and and I just had broken my rule a little

992
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:59.519
about being out at night. And so yeah, and then

993
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:04.000
you know, we had a bear siding. Recently, a bear

994
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:07.719
came through and the for Service actually posted a video

995
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.800
of it at at Golden Pond, n olbl and Martin.

996
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:15.840
People that have been in land between the lakes know

997
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:18.440
we've had bears there for a long time, whether they're

998
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.440
in and out or there's a resident population. You'll see

999
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:24.639
tracks it's always been known that you could run into

1000
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:29.079
a bear. But this past Christmas and I just remember

1001
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:33.159
it because there's a place called Patties. It's in Grand Rivers.

1002
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.719
It's a restaurant. I would recommend it to anybody who

1003
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.320
comes down here. You got to make reservations. It's always packed.

1004
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:42.280
It's eighteen eighty settlement, so they're back in the old days.

1005
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:46.880
But they have a huge Christmas light display. I mean,

1006
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.039
I can't describe it. Maybe for a big city folk

1007
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.280
it wouldn't be that impressive, but for us around here,

1008
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:57.039
it's a neat thing and it's free and it's usually packed.

1009
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.960
So my strategy is the day at after Christmas, when

1010
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.639
they're closed, we always go to Patty's where we've got

1011
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:11.320
this whole lighted Christmas wonderland to ourselves. And so this

1012
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.559
year was no different. And we were driving I drive

1013
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.760
down the Trace from where I'm at. I actually purposely

1014
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.480
go through LBL on the Trace, and we were seeing man,

1015
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:25.880
we were seeing deer, and we've seen coyotes. We've seen

1016
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.760
fox and al bust in front of the headlights. And again,

1017
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.199
people around here know on the nights that you start

1018
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:35.920
seeing a lot of stuff a wildlife. You've got a

1019
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.360
good chance of seeing everything that's rumored to be in

1020
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:40.800
LBL on those nights.

1021
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.280
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

1022
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.320
And man, we were almost out. We were to the

1023
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:07.920
canal and there's a bridge and I looked down right

1024
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:13.920
at the guardrail and it was I don't know, Martin

1025
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.679
thinks it might have been a dog. Man. It was

1026
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:22.440
definitely a wolf. And I went back and again shot

1027
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:26.159
a video and got measurements of this thing about how

1028
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:28.880
wide it was. But it was laying by the guardrail

1029
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.440
between the road and the guardrail and there's a big

1030
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:35.679
drop off right on the other side. And this thing

1031
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.880
it crouched as it was standing up, if that makes sense,

1032
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:44.000
its back leg where its back was coming up. It

1033
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.480
had yellow eyes. This thing looked at me, Jeremiah, I've

1034
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.519
never I can close mind. I don't have to close

1035
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:51.039
my eyes. I can see it right now. And it

1036
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.880
creeked me out because it's like if you've seen American

1037
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:58.679
werewolf in London, when that werewolf is back in the

1038
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:02.159
alley and first comes out of the dark. That's what

1039
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:06.719
I saw. And it raved up and I'm saying to

1040
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.039
my wife at the time. I said, good lord, did

1041
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.000
you see the size of that coyote? She said where?

1042
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.480
And I said, it's right there. And I let off.

1043
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.440
I didn't put my foot on the brake. I let

1044
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:21.679
off the accelerator. She looked right at me. Don't you stop.

1045
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.039
You do not get because she had she had heard

1046
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:26.960
a lot of these stories of the dog men actually

1047
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:32.119
chasing cars and doing stuff like that. So I went back.

1048
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:35.159
She was even nervous. We went back probably two months later.

1049
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:38.519
We were through there, and I just on a whim.

1050
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:41.920
I always keep a it's my daypack. You know. People

1051
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:44.320
call it a bug out bag, but you could live

1052
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:45.960
out of the back. Say, if we're go on a

1053
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.159
trip somewhere, I make sure it's in whatever vehicle I'm in.

1054
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:49.920
And I keep a tape measure. Now that I'm a

1055
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.440
big foot guy, I keep a tape measure in there.

1056
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:54.920
So I just stopped and she said what are you doing?

1057
01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:57.599
And I looked at my daughter. I said, here, come here,

1058
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.320
hold the camera. We're going to film something. And carry

1059
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:04.599
asked my wife. She was really nervous at us being

1060
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.039
there in the broad daylight. And then and what's weird

1061
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:11.880
about that? Is my cousin had come through in October

1062
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:14.519
and just asked me if I'd ever seen a wolf there,

1063
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:18.159
because he thought he saw what was a large coyote

1064
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:21.079
walking along the trace when he was coming through. And

1065
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:25.119
then in March, I was fishing and I gotten a

1066
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.840
nice boat. But a lot of times, well in the spring,

1067
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.679
i'll walk the bank and just get a hike in,

1068
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.639
and I'll walk the bank fishing, just kind of see

1069
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.199
where the fish are going to be coming up and

1070
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.000
what part of the codes are going to use, and

1071
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.639
what structure and logs and things, and then I'll hike

1072
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.880
back through the woods wherever my car's parked. I came

1073
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.599
around the corner and there was a boat there. And

1074
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.639
I've never run into into anybody doing the same thing

1075
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.079
I'm doing where I'm doing it, and I had surprised

1076
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.519
these people in the boat. They were bass fishing. But

1077
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:01.679
we got to talking and the first thing the guy

1078
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:03.719
asked me, he said, have you ever seen a wolf?

1079
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.679
I said, well, you know, yes, sir, I have, And

1080
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:09.880
I told him the story. They were coming in that

1081
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.159
morning and he said, up on the power lines going

1082
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:16.760
into a place called ft and Access, he said, I

1083
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.199
saw the biggest blackest wolf I have seen in years,

1084
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:22.519
And the guy went on to share that he had

1085
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:24.760
been stationed. I think both of them had been stationed

1086
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:28.320
in Alaska with the army. And we're both very familiar

1087
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:32.199
with with wolves compared to coyotes. So yeah, you know,

1088
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.000
you hear them. You hear in this dog man stuff.

1089
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.119
You hear the different categories and if it's actually looks

1090
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:40.880
like a wolf but it can stand up, or is

1091
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:44.239
it a man? And again, I'm not knowledgeable in that,

1092
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.480
and I'm honestly not trying to be knowledgeable in that,

1093
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:49.880
But I did see any coyotes or foxes or wildlife

1094
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:51.960
I've ever seen when a car was coming by, they

1095
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:57.760
didn't actively engage the driver and adopt a stance like

1096
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.480
they were fixing the punts a six thousand pounds vehicle

1097
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:02.320
going thirty forty miles.

1098
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:07.480
Now, why do you think there's so much weird stuff

1099
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:10.400
concentrated in this one area?

1100
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:16.039
Well, I think it goes back. And now, I've got

1101
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:19.519
a history minor. I've got a business degree, but I

1102
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.679
taught history in school. I'm fascinated with that. It's rumored

1103
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:31.639
my great grandfather's mom was a full blooded Cherokee. Her

1104
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:35.000
name was Sula. I've never seen pictures or anything of her,

1105
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.000
but she had a weird name, and so I've always

1106
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:45.440
felt connected to that part. This area was a hunting ground.

1107
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:52.000
It was never really occupied the Shawnee and the Cherokee,

1108
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:54.079
and I think so maybe some of the groups coming

1109
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:58.840
up from the south all kind of claimed this area.

1110
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:03.000
And so there's always been that legend of the medicine

1111
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:07.960
man that for whatever reason became a skin walker or what.

1112
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.079
I don't know if he was cursed or what happened.

1113
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.880
I'm not an expert in it, but when you move

1114
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.039
down here you hear about that. You know. The people

1115
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:22.719
were relocated twice in the building of the dams, and

1116
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.639
a lot of that doesn't always get out. The construction

1117
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:30.840
of Kentucky Dam was started as part of the New

1118
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.639
Deal coming out of the Great Depression when they formed

1119
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.079
the TVA. Now, I don't think it was really finished

1120
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:41.480
until the forties, and JFK turned that place into a

1121
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.000
recreational area in the sixties, and some of the holdouts

1122
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:51.400
weren't finally kicked out until the sixties and seventies. But

1123
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:54.440
this goes as far back. The first wave of people

1124
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.480
were moved actually twice. They were moved from the Tennessee

1125
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:04.480
river bed up into LBL. They were promised that the

1126
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:08.719
cemeteries would be moved. That's why there's so many cemeteries.

1127
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.159
That a lot of them have been relocated, but there

1128
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.199
is no confirmation if the bodies were actually moved with

1129
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:18.599
the headstones. There are still headstones in the lake. You know,

1130
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.079
when you study the haunted world and the spiritual realm,

1131
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:30.639
most most big cemeteries where people are buried. But they

1132
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.199
had no connection there. They didn't live in the area

1133
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:38.440
that they were farmed. There's not on there. They didn't

1134
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:41.480
die there. I don't know that. I believe in a

1135
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:46.599
lot of hauntings of newer cemeteries. But in the old situations,

1136
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.239
all that emotion, all that energy, all that life force,

1137
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.920
everything was right there in that area and it was

1138
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:57.320
it appears to be that that was an issue with

1139
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:02.519
the Indians, the Nativemericans, with the French traders and trappers

1140
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:07.519
that came with the people there getting treated wrong, and

1141
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.719
then just all the you know, there's good and bad

1142
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:14.360
people everywhere. So I'm sure in an area where there

1143
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.000
was people living for thirty forty fifty sixty years, there

1144
01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:21.119
was probably some bad stuff that happen, so I think

1145
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.920
all that energy is trapped there. I do believe in

1146
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:29.000
the power of water. You know, Jesus says that when

1147
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.199
you ask Jesus what used to be, he talks about

1148
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.520
being like water. The small rock can crack a rock

1149
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:38.079
and he'll give you living water. It's what our bodies

1150
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:40.199
are made out of. It. It's just when you look

1151
01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:43.960
at that and understand the flowing of water around that place,

1152
01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:49.079
there's so many springs. So again, this is just my opinion.

1153
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:52.359
I have no expertise in this, but I know if

1154
01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:56.800
you read and study and hear about conditions which create

1155
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:03.840
weird supernatural things up to including demonic evil things, we've

1156
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:04.680
got them all right.

1157
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:08.479
It's a fascinating discussion. And just thank you for taking

1158
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.920
some time tonight to share what you've experienced, what you

1159
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:17.119
are experience in the area. And definitely, you know, keep

1160
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:21.239
us in the loop if things continue to happen on

1161
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.640
your property or for you continue to experience things in

1162
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:25.960
the land between the lakes.

1163
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:30.000
Yeah, oh absolutely, man, but be not pleasure to I

1164
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:31.079
definitely let you know.

1165
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:35.880
Do are you a gentleman where if you kind of

1166
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.039
tend to stay in the shadows, or is there a

1167
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.800
way if if someone has you know something they want

1168
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:44.520
to ask you about the Land of the Lakes, is

1169
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:46.479
there a way people can reach out to you at all?

1170
01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:50.000
Mike, Okay, okay, well all right now, so you're gonna

1171
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:52.600
you're gonna catch me in one even though I am not.

1172
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:57.760
I'm not professing. I'm not professing to be. I don't

1173
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.600
want to be a YouTuber or a podcast or Joe Doyle.

1174
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:02.920
I'm gonna blame it on him if he listens to

1175
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:10.319
This has just encouraged me, and in reading the comments

1176
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:14.199
on some of the small Town Monsters stuff, I did

1177
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:17.319
start a YouTube channel. I haven't advertised it or asked

1178
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:21.119
for subscribers. I'm not doing anything with it, but it's

1179
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:27.319
called smith Ridge Adventures and it's got a little symbol

1180
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:29.600
of some mountains and it says smith Ridge on It

1181
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:31.439
is in black and white. If you go on there

1182
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:35.600
and search smith Ridge Adventures, you can see some of

1183
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:38.920
the videos and some of the stuff I made. And

1184
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:42.600
so basically, if somebody would comments all that footprint looks

1185
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.359
fake or that's you know, why is there one footprint

1186
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.840
or something like that on this small town Monster stuff,

1187
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:50.800
I would just reply, you can look at the whole thing.

1188
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:54.239
And so if somebody I do have a Gmail at

1189
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:58.640
smith Ridge Adventures at gmail dot com associated with that,

1190
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.560
and that would be the best way. I probably need

1191
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.239
to check it. I haven't checked in a while, but

1192
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.159
that'd be the best way to get me. I don't

1193
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:08.920
want to give out my work email and flood my

1194
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:10.760
work email with big footstuff.

1195
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:15.000
So hey, that sounds great. And I asked that because

1196
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:17.680
I learned the hard way that if I don't, then

1197
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.199
people flood my email with how do I get in

1198
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.159
touch with Mike? And I don't play those games anymore.

1199
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.840
So there you go, guys, that's how you can do it. Well, Mike,

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01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.239
thank you so much for coming on. It's been a

1201
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:33.199
pleasure chatting with you tonight and I really appreciate it.

1202
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:36.600
Hey anytime man really enjoyed it.

1203
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1211
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1213
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Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

1214
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.319
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1215
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1222
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:44.199
thanks for listening.

1223
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.000
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1224
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:37.319
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

1225
01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:40.239
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1226
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:42.039
them the courage to come out.

1227
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:44.800
And now it feels so bad about it, Who cares

1228
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:45.960
what anybody thinks.

1229
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:48.319
I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

1230
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:50.159
That's all I care about.

1231
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:10.119
Please let people know, Please let them know. If you

1232
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:13.279
ever see one of these things, you need to tell

1233
01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.720
because if you don't, then shame on you. You have

1234
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:28.399
shame on you