We were being LURED into the Woods!
In this episode of Bigfoot Society, I talk to Ann about her harrowing and intense encounters with the elusive Bigfoot. Ann shares her first terrifying sighting in Spokane, Washington, where a colossal creature stalked her. The episode explores her...
In this episode of Bigfoot Society, I talk to Ann about her harrowing and intense encounters with the elusive Bigfoot. Ann shares her first terrifying sighting in Spokane, Washington, where a colossal creature stalked her. The episode explores her unnerving experiences with aggressive elk and haunting incidents where voices mimicked her loved ones. Ann recounts Bigfoot's aggressive behavior during hunts, including smacking houses and cars, highlighting their eerie obsession with elk herds. Listeners will be captivated by Ann's gripping stories of fear, mystery, and her relentless quest to understand these enigmatic creatures drawn to her.
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Society and now let's get on with the
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show, all right, Bigfat Society. We got the privilege of talking to
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individual Anne, who I'd seen a
comment on a YouTube video and I had
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asked for her to reach out,
and she actually did end up reaching out,
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and it's leading to a very interesting
conversation that's about to happen. I've
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been waiting to talk to and for
little bit of time, and I'm glad
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that the time is finally here.
But Ann, how are we doing tonight?
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Wonderful? The Pleasure's mind I'm glad
that you called absolutely. I mean
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it is. I think there's going
to be a lot to this one.
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But Anne, I'm going to go
go ahead and let you fill in the
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details about what you would like the
audience to know about your background, if
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anything. Okay, So the topic
is bigfoot obviously or things like that,
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high strangeness, and so from a
very early age. I'm in my I'm
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about fifty three, but in the
early seventies I had my first experience.
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I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and
I have lived in other places. Some
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of those events occurred in other places
too, and I can get into those
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if that's where we go. I
grew up on a farm, a conventional
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family, and you know, a
little bit of religion there and definite belief
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in God and you know, our
savior in Jesus Christ, things like that.
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But also there was a rift in
the family. My parents divorced,
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and then after that time, you
know, you know, there was there
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was movements. So it's not I
don't want it to be portrayed that it
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always was conventional, because you'll see
that that my story takes me to different
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places too, because I've had to
scramble as a single mom, myself and
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work, and you know, so
I've had to travel a lot. So
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that's that kind of leeds into why
there are situations that have happened or occurred
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in different parts of the country.
But leading back to I think it was
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like nineteen seventy four, my dad
and his cousin we were in We were
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north of Spokane, Washington State.
It was in Washington State, that's northeast
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Washington, and we were in Spokane. I remember vividly at least see seeing
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the thing. My cousin, my
second cousin, was babysitting because my dad
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and his cousin. His cousin was
in law school and my mom and my
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dad were friends with you know,
they used to go do things together,
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and so his oldest daughter would babysit
us. Well, there was four or
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five kids, and we were all
about the same age. I was,
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I think the youngest. Maybe there
might have been one younger than me,
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but I was about four. We
were in the yard playing making mudpies and
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we had a hose out there,
I remember, and it was on the
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South Hill and Spokane. But this
is back before there was a lot of
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development, and so there was more
trees in the back behind and forested areas,
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and so we were in the backyard
playing and there was a big tree
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to my left, and I was
facing say north, because the house was
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also to the west of me,
which was on my left. And then
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there was a big, huge tree, like a tamarack, because you know,
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Pacific Northwest is well known for those, even in backyards. And then
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you know, we had this big
mud you know, blog or whatever we
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were playing in. And then the
kids all ran in, so they ran
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inside, and I just remember lagging
behind because I wanted to still make mudpies.
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I was having a grand old time
and I didn't want to go in,
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so I stayed out. And that
was always curious to me because it
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was like a point of separation that's
talked about. The kids went inside,
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I was alone, and I'm sitting
there making these mudpies, and I remember
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seeing something huge behind the tree.
It like slid up behind the tree,
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and I just saw it like peripherally, and then it leaned out, and
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I remember seeing these huge eyes.
It was huge. I mean it must
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have been, I don't know because
I was so young, but it was
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very large and ominous, and I
remember experiencing its presence like it was formidable.
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It was scary. I was literally
terrified. And it didn't have a
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normal expression on its face, like
it wasn't friendly, it wasn't it like
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looked at me like very intense intent, and I was like, I mean,
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I don't want to swear, but
even as a little kid, I
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was like, oh shit, and
I just took off running into the house.
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Well I had to run past it, but but I did like a
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you know, I curved around,
you know, I swung wide and I
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got inside and I had wet my
pants and I may have like done more
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than that, because I remember I
got in trouble by the parents because they
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didn't have a change of clothes for
me, and that it became about that.
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Like I never got that part out
to them, that there had been
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you know, not that I was
very you know, vocal at the age
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of four, but I know that
later on we had talked about it.
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My family's well aware that it happened, and my dad said, well,
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maybe it was teenagers or something.
But he had his own experience when he
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was ten sixty miles north of Spokane
when he was hunting, because back then
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they used to hunt really young,
back in the fifties or sixties whenever it
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was, and so you know,
he's more open to these sorts of things
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than you know, like maybe another
parent or something. But my entire family
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knew that I had experienced this thing
because I'd talked about it off and on
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after that, and then also after
that I experienced, like right away it
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was really weird. I would go
to bed and my bed would shake,
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and then I would get these impressions
like it was like mine speak, but
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it was like in unison there was
more than one voice, and it would
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be like we are going to get
you, just like this chanting sort of
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stuff. It was so bizarre,
and I would go into my parents' bedroom,
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I remember, and tell them,
I'm I can't get rid of it.
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Oh, it's your subconscious. Oh
you know, it'll be okay,
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It'll be okay. And then at
the age of eight, I was baptized,
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and then I had just noticed that
I had thought I'd grow out of
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it, But looking back later,
I realized that that was around the time
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that that I never had those those
voices at night, So it wasn't like
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a paranoid sort of schizoid sort of
you know event or anything like that.
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It wasn't like that sort of development
because it would only happen at night,
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and it would only happen when I
was, you know, alone, So
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it's not like you know, I
was hearing these these voices or something.
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It's when I was alone at night
in my bed, and then the bed
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would shake, and my dreams were
terrible. I mean it would be like,
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you know, I'd have dreams that
big hairy creatures were coming after me
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and that you know, I would
freeze in the yard and I would drag
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my leg eggs to the house or
I had to protect my little kittens or
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something, and you know, I
would be putting up these cardboard walls because
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you know, the creatures would be
coming through the walls. It was just
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always really night tears and things like
that. And then, like I said,
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when I got baptized, that sort
of stuff went away. The night
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terrors, that sleep paralysis still came
back off and on, but that mind
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speaks stuff all went away. And
I truly do believe that we have power
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in that sort of thing. So
that's kind of why I led into the
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whole. You know that there was
a religious breadground there, and some people
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don't believe that sort of thing.
But just whatever your flavor is, whatever
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it is, that was mine and
it worked and it worked for me at
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least. That's that's my That's how
I feel about it. And then later
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on, as time went on,
some weird stuff happened, like there was
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another incident in Spokan, but it
wasn't a it wasn't a bigfoot and I
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saw like and before we get into
that, and I know listeners are hating
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me right now, but we already
talked before, guys that we're gonna there's
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going to be kind of camp outs
through this conversation because I don't want to
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just skip over what you just shared. And it was a lot that you
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just shared, right, and maybe
we could chat about that for a little
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bit, Okay, Okay, cool. So that was back when you were
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four that you had your first visual
when you think four or five, yeah,
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okay, And when you think of
that time your memory that you have,
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do you remember as it was this
big like ape type creature or it
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was a big, like weird looking
human type creature or is there anything like
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that in your mind? Well,
and that's the confusion because I wasn't sure
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that it was like a bigfoot at
the time, because it wasn't like a
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big hairy ape, but it was
if you could imagine the outline of one,
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you could still see its eyes and
things like that. It was still
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there in tangible but it was like, I was like, I don't know
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how to the only other. I
mean, I've seen one since and it's
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not it's the same thing, but
this was more like a like a creature.
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I mean, it was more like
so hard to explain. I heard
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it explained one time on another podcast
where this woman had come up through Wyoming
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and she said that she saw one
that was stretched across the highway and it
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smiled at her, had a big
mouth, you know. But she said
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it was like a weird color,
like cream or something like that. I
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know that sounds weird, but that's
what it was like. It wasn't your
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traditional you know. It was like
I don't remember so much like the hair
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or fur as I do that it
was just this huge head and face staring
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at me. And then I saw
the body out of the corner of my
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eye slide up behind the tree.
But it was huge, and then when
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it came out the front part of
the tree. Its eyes must have been
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I mean, they must have been
as big as baseballs. I felt like,
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I don't know, I was four
or five, you know, yeah,
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but big, huge, mouth huge. I was going to ask you
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about it. So it was it
kind of a drawn out mouth or do
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you remember any specifics about the mouth? I think it smiled, okay.
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Were you able to see teeth when
I smiled? Oh huh uh? Interesting?
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And do you remember any other details
of the face, like maybe skin
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color? I don't, I don't. What's got my my memory kind of
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messed up is that I saw it
crawl behind the tree, up to the
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tree, and when it did that, it was a weird thing. It
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was a weird, not normal thing. The way it kind of crept up,
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like it kind of glided up a
little bit but was on the ground,
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but kind of it was really weird. And so the whole that part
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of it and then it leaning out. The eyes were big, the mouth
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and it like looked at me like
I don't know, like why I don't
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know why it didn't grab me like
that should have come down. I was
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going to ask you, you know, because there's a point where you had
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to run past it, But you
made a wide curve right, mm hmmm.
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How did did it react to it
all? When you did that run
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past? I was fight or fight? I had no nothing. As soon
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as as soon as I saw it
was like I got that whatever adrenaline dump
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and was gone. I mean,
thank goodness, you know, at least
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it wasn't you know, to freeze. Yeah, it triggered me to shoot
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out of there, and I don't
I just remember just being just had like
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so fast into the house, like
it was there's no way I was sticking
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around. How soon after that did
the hearing the voices and the dreams start?
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I would have to say right away, I mean because my memories go
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back to that point, you know
what I mean. And not a lot
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of people remember past like four or
five, right, but I have memories
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back to three, like when my
mom brought home my little brother, who's
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three years younger than me. I
remember when she brought him home, but
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I don't remember mind speaker anything like
that. And it wasn't like mine speak,
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like it really wasn't having a communication
with me. It was like somehow
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these voices, and there was numerous
voices were trying to scare me and they
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were chanting, and it's just crazy. It's nothing that I heard. Like
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our house was you know, no
one else heard it. Our house was
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very My dad's very protective. He's
a marine veteran, you know. I
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mean, just there's just no way
that it was coming from anywhere else other
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than what was inside of me.
And maybe it was just me and my
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subconscious, but there was a correlation, is all I'm saying. I mean
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it certain I tied it together,
and maybe it was a trauma response.
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Maybe maybe it was a trauma response
and then maybe you know, just being
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baptized after that made me feel secure
and safe and you know, yeah,
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absolutely the dreams that you would have
where that you said the big hair creatures
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would be coming after you, Yes, did they look the same as what
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you saw. Sometimes they were represented
as apes, sometimes they were represented as
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bears. But I have actually had
dreams of giants before I had my most
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recent sighting. So I've had I've
had dreams that I was up on our
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property up north of Spokane and that
there was a big flood and then they
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were like swinging down and like they
weren't good, but it was like some
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kind of natural disaster and they were
coming around and they were formidable again,
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you know, but they were at
that point like Bigfoot. Okay, and
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this is a dream you had around
the same time. You said that was
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later in life, No later later, they've just been ongoing. Yeah,
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oh you've had ongoing dreams like oh
yeah really yeah, okay, So the
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the the voices stopped after you got
baptized, but the dreams did not.
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M m no. That's really interesting, and that could just be my own
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fears, you know, I don't
know, I mean obviously so M well,
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yeah, that I just wanted to
talk about that for for a little
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bit. Oh, actually there are
a few more. So the house that
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this happened around. How close was
your closest neighbor at that time behind us?
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I'm not sure or because because we
were up on the south like right
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now, it would it's just you
know, it's all developed. But I
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think it was just a regular neighborhood
where there was forest in the back,
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you know what I mean. It
came in through the back. It came
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in through the back, for sure, for sure it did, because that's
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the you know, way it traveled. So but it was still a populated
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area. You know. You didn't
have to go very far to go to
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the bing Crosby theater down the hill, you know, but it was up
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high on the south hill a bit. But it was just way back then.
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It just wasn't as developed. You
didn't have your nice model homes that
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are up there now. Behind there
was just a lot of open area.
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Do you do you think your parents
believed you at all when you would tell
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them of what happened. Yeah,
because my dad has had situations like like
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I said, when he was ten, he was he was hunting in a
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swamp on our property. He said
he could fill a presence in there,
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and it scared him and he left. He was hunting a deer in there
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in the swamp. It was a
big area, and I remember riding horses
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by there before I even knew about
what happened to him. But you know,
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I rode horses when I was a
kid, and I would always look
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at that tree line and think that
Native Americans were in there watching me or
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something, because we Native Americans used
to battle on those grounds, you know.
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But I don't think it was Native
American spirits that were looking at me.
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I think it might have been something
else, you know, I don't
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know. Sure. So you said
there's same same property, it not is
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what I saw in Spokane. This
this is a different property where just you
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know, there's just a lot of
high strangeness in Washington State in general and
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Idaho. So yeah, very interesting. I mean, you're right, it
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did start right off the bat for
you. But you're free to definitely let's
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let's continue with with what happens next. Yeah. So, and I mean,
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I think that just kind of opened
me up to things. You know.
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I just think that I knew it
probably traumatized me greatly. It's more
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than anything. And I just I
just want to put that out there that
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you know, people that are running
around looking for bigfoot situations and things like
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that, they're unclean. I don't
believe they're clean spirits. They don't seem
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to you know, experience, you
know, joy or you know, love
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or you know whatever. I mean, I don't know. We don't get
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that close to them, but they
certainly do like to instill fear upon you
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and terror, and they seem to
have a little bit of jealousy too.
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But I'll get into that. They
seem to compete or have a little bit
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of ego, and to me,
that's just you know, those are all
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those wrong emotions that you know that
seems to be what they function on.
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And so I just don't think that
they're I don't think they're I don't think
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they're beneficial to humans. I think
we spend way too much time thinking about
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them, and I think people pursue
them right now, there's they're kind of
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a novelty. People make money off
of it. But if you truly are
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experiencing them like how I experience them, and they play games and they manipulate,
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and I'll get into that, but
they can make you sick, like
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I've been sick. I have been
sick for days after being out in the
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woods with my dogs, after having
one of them call out my dog's name,
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you know, or something like that. And I've been around them hearing
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the weird noises and stuff, you
know, like I'll get sick after that,
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and that's just not good. It's
not good for you. But so
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just moving on and I'll try not
to. There's been some other weirdness that
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I've experienced, but I'll try to
move forward. When I moved to Oklahoma,
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I lived for a couple of years
in Tulsa broken arrow, and I
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would run to the like the come
and Go or the gas station in the
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morning to exercise, and then I
would run back and I would have to
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run through these fields. And this
one field had a hay the round hay
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bills, and it also had like
a culvert area in there, and then
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there was a golf course close to
it. But sometimes when I would come
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home, I would just know there, like there was a dark thing that
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was standing by that that hey bell, and I would never look straight at
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it, you know. I kind
of like knew not to do that from
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the time I was a little little
one, and that happened. I knew
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not to look because I didn't want
to know. I didn't want to know
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what I was looking at, and
I would just go by. But then
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there was some violent tree shaking that
was going on in the in the mornings,
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and so then I quit going at
dark. I'd wait till the light
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came out, and so that there
was more humans around, because one time
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I had gone around, I had
routed around. I wanted to extend how
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far I was running. I was
probably late thirties, early forties, I
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guess around the time, and just
trying to get more exercise. So I
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extended my route and I've smelled the
smell, got the formidable weirdness, weird
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feeling, you know, whatever it
was. I knew that the tree shaking.
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I hadn't invested bigfoot wasn't quite what
it is now right now, there's
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kind of a hysteria on it,
but it was more on the down low.
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You didn't really talk about it.
But I knew that there was something
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like that, you know, I
mean just because I had experienced it early
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in life. And sometimes there's things
that just aren't explainable. And so I
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remember one time on my way back, I saw print. It was a
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huge, huge, bare footprint and
it was in the mud because that was
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a that was a field that they
had been, you know, obviously there
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was some Timothy hay or something they
had planted in it. Otherwise it wouldn't
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have had bails of hay in it, but it had rained and there was
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this big, huge footprint. And
then I looked around and there was no
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other footprints. And so me not
knowing like how it goes. I mean,
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I knew what I saw when I
was little, but I didn't know
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that they can just have a print
and then go away, like you can
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see just one print and then there's
no prince, no other princes. And
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that's what I saw. I saw
one print and then there was no other
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prince, and so I discounted it
because I thought, well, there's no
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other print, so that's not a
big foot. So I'll check that off.
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And I mean, now hearing other
people say yeah, there was just
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one print and then it's like it
dissipated or went away, now I would
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know like, oh, well that
was legitimately a footprint. I mean,
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that's legitimately a bigfoot, but I
just kind of discounted it. I moved
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to North Idaho. I had my
famili's from North Idaho northeast Washington. I
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moved to North Idaho and I started
going on I'm in a community. It's
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a small community, and we are
just surrounded by mountains. I mean there's
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just hardly any flatland at all.
And I started going on the trail on
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my bike with my dog, I
have a German shepherd, and started experiencing
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really strange stuff. The tree,
the violent tree shaking to where it couldn't
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just be something shaking the tree.
It's like every leaf is shaking. It
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was really weird in broad daylight,
just different stuff that I was experiencing.
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And then there's some real weirdness to
this area. But I'm going to go
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into my Elks story. This happened
in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty,
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My family's well aware of it.
My manager at work heard about it that
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morning. The janitor that works where
I worked had had a situation back when
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he was five, behind one of
our famous restaurants here along the river.
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He had gone up to the chicken
coop behind their house or behind the restaurant,
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because they had a house up there
and they had a bear hanging that
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they had just gutted and killed and
it was hanging in the tree. And
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he said that he watched a bigfoot
walk across the chicken. It actually upright
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step over the chicken like wire,
because it had been out there investigating that
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bear hanging there. And so,
and this is a common theme. You
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know, you'll talk to people who
hunt and they hang, they'll hang different
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stuff and then they'll get slaps on
there on their houses and things like that.
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So you know, it's kind of
talked about amongst certain people that and
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then you know, maybe maybe not
others. I don't know. But anyhow,
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so one morning, it was in
twenty nineteen or twenty twenty. It
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was December or January. It was
snowing out. Well, actually I got
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to go to the night before because
this is going to explain how these things
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think. They're a very very manipulative. So I go out. I've got
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my dog. She loves these tennis
pen tennis balls that are like greenish yellow
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that you buy an ACE hardware.
You open the can, three come out,
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you know, and then I have
a ball launch And so I launched
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the ball down the hill because then
she has to run up the hill and
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she gets more exercise out of it
quickly, so you know, I'm kind
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of make her do more work,
right, So I'm doing the ball launching.
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This is like probably about six o'clock
at night, maybe earlier. I
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guess it would be dark. So
it was earlier because it was that time
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of year. So I don't know
it was it was. It was the
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night before, but it wasn't dark
out. The herd had come in.
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The elk herd had come. They
come across from the north, they crossed
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the highway and they come up and
then they go up onto the southern mountains
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and so they're just very it's very
common to see them. You know,
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they'll they'll migrate over, but they're
they're just really doing their like they're sticking
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together, the cows and the calves. So as these were first year calves
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and they were all following their moms. And there's like different tiers levels of
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ground that they go on, and
they follow these little wildlife trails, you
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know, and you can watch them
where I'm at, and I don't want
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to say where I'm at because I've
been going there a long time and I
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don't want to. I just don't
want to call it out. But anyways,
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so they cross over in front of
me and I'm sitting there throwing this
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launching this ball with my dog and
I'm yelling at her and not not mean,
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but you know, we're having a
good time. And the cows turn
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with their antenna ears, you know
that you could tell their face and you
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know, they got their ears out
there just kind of curious as to what
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the heck we're doing. Because that
dog keeps running after the ball and running
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up the hill and it was kind
of entertaining. Well, they're babies.
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Two of the babies start jumping around
and playing. I mean it was almost
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like Richi and Rudolph and Reindeer gave
it. It was so cute, you
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know, because the dog was jumping
around and excited, and so the little
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calves. It was they were far
away, but they could still see and
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I could see them and they're jumping
around. I thought, that is the
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most adorable thing ever, you know, because I had incited like this joyful
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play in them, or I hadn't, my dog had, but you know,
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us, we together had done that, and so I thought, wow,
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what a memory. So I posted
on social media, you know,
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because it was so exciting for me. I was like, oh, these
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calves were playing. It was so
cute, you know, and just that
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they had responded like that. And
then the next morning I went out because
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I wanted I had to go to
work, and I wanted to take her
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out because she was home all day
long. And I took her out early.
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It was about seven am, and
I hear this cow el screaming and
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she's to my north. Well,
these cows last the night before had been
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to my south because they had crossed
up and over the road. So this
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cow elk is just bellowing. She's
screaming her head off, and they only
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do that if something's taken their baby, like she was. She wouldn't shut
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up. It was super loud.
The other cows had crossed over, and
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they were doing it quickly, so
they weren't like casually walking. So there
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was something down there, and I
thought it might be a coyote or something,
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you know, And I didn't know, but it was kind of disturbing
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because they had just been playing and
I didn't know if it was one of
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those cows or not. You know, not to get too attached or anything,
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but you know, that would have
been a bummer. Anyways. So
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I'm sitting there and I'm watching.
I'm trying to see where the cow is
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screaming from, and I couldn't see
it. But then there's these two big
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hills, and then there's a bridge
that's on a trail, and this upright
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figure walks right across that bridge in
between the two hills. And this is
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pretty, you know, pretty far
away. It's about maybe an eighth of
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a mile, maybe a quarter of
a mile. I can't really measure it.
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I've shown my like kids and stuff, and where it's at and on
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a map and stuff, but I
can't really measure it. But it's close
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00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:25.799
enough to where I could see an
upright figure walk across. I couldn't distinguish
394
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:27.200
it if it was a man or
not. But it was a really tall,
395
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.559
upright thing, and in the back
of my mind, I thought,
396
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:36.640
where's the baby calf. It wasn't
holding it, so it was not a
397
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.559
bigfoot. I don't know why I
thought that. I don't even know why
398
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.880
I thought it was a bigfoot,
probably because she's screaming her head off and
399
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.039
why would there be a human so
close to her, because it was coming
400
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.079
from that area, and I was
like, this is so weird, this
401
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.920
is so bizarre. I didn't see
clothes on it because it crossed over that
402
00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:00.079
so quickly. But I couldn't get
a gauge on I don't know, like
403
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.440
it was right beyond my it wasn't
close enough to me to where I could
404
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.920
get a gauge, and it went
so quickly that I couldn't figure out what
405
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.440
it was, but I knew that
it was big, and so I got
406
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:18.559
in my car and with my dog
and I drove down and through the field
407
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.640
where you would have to see that
person walking and it's for like half a
408
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.559
mile and then half a mile the
other way. There's no way in the
409
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:32.960
amount of time that I raced down
there that that person could be gone.
410
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.920
Within that period of time. You
would still see them walking into town or
411
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.640
away from town either way. Right, I was outside of town, but
412
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.359
you would have to see them on
that trail, because that trail goes for
413
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:49.119
miles and it's open. And so
I went down there and I crept down
414
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.039
to the bank, and at that
point, I'm not thinking it's bigfoot.
415
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.599
I'm thinking I just need to see
a guy. I just need to see
416
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.720
a person. And I'm with my
dog and there's when there and I go
417
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.799
and I look for any footprints.
There's nothing there. There was nothing there.
418
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.200
It was snowing. There was snow
out, so there should be prints
419
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.519
unless he was had stopped and hid
up somewhere. I mean, you just
420
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.759
you would see him. There was
a I could see back down to the
421
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.759
bridge that he was on, but
there was no print. So something weird
422
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.920
was going on. And so I
went back up towards my car because I'm
423
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.799
trying to take all this in because
you know, when something like this happens.
424
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.559
You're kind of you got you have
cognitive dissonance. You're like, Okay,
425
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.759
don't overthink this. This is like
what is this? Like? You
426
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.319
know what I mean, It's just
it was weird. All of a sudden,
427
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:46.599
I see this elk come running at
me from two hills away. She
428
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:52.680
comes barreling towards me, and then
she disappears. Well that's because she went
429
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.319
down. And then she came up
the other hill closer to me, and
430
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.640
she's coming right at me, and
she gets to be about fifty feet away
431
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.160
from me. I can see the
steam in her nostrils. I'm all we
432
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:07.960
have is like some weeds between us, but they have no leaves on them,
433
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:13.359
so like they're basically just sticks.
I have nothing to protect myself,
434
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:16.920
and my dog's not chasing her,
and I don't understand what's going on,
435
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.920
right. I don't understand, Like
I don't want my dog to chase her,
436
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.640
but I'm like going to get trampled. And so then in my mind
437
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.000
I'm thinking, okay, is this
a bull? And then I'm like,
438
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:37.799
wait, bulls don't lose their antlers
until like April. This is December,
439
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.599
January, whatever it was. It
was winter and so I'm like, this
440
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.680
is a cow, and so she
looks, she looks at me. She
441
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.400
just keeps staring at me, staring
at me, trying to like assess who
442
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:52.519
I was or what I was.
And then she looks back at my dog
443
00:33:52.599 --> 00:34:00.400
behind me, and then she turns
back and chases off to the to the
444
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:06.759
south, and just and just like
she shoots over to the to the south,
445
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.039
not where she had come from,
but where the other ones were going.
446
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.880
She was probably going to meet up
with them or whatever. And I'm
447
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.400
just sitting there scratching my head like
I almost died. She almost trampled me.
448
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:20.119
And then I thought, why would
she trample me? Why was she
449
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.320
after me? Why did she see
an upright person walking and come after me?
450
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.000
What grabbed her baby? And I
mean, this is all true.
451
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:31.679
I would take a light detector.
I swear to you, this is all
452
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:37.360
true. This all happened, and
she was after me. But and I
453
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.360
saw an upright thing walk across the
bridge, but I never saw the cat.
454
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.159
But I will say this, and
I have video of this. Every
455
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:51.000
year or thereafter, a cow will
stand in that place, right around there,
456
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.440
waiting for a baby, like babies
are getting taken like, I don't
457
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.119
know if it's you know, there's
coyotes and there's bear there too, you
458
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:04.639
know what I mean. But it
was a mother that her baby had gotten
459
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.599
taken from her. And now this
is going to sound really weird, but
460
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.719
I went to where and I told
my manager about it, and he was
461
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.400
like, you got really lucky,
and I know what that sounds like.
462
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:16.599
I had to rescue a baby calf
that was cut, you know, because
463
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.800
they hunt around here. This is
just kind of the way it is.
464
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.760
And he goes, you were really
fortunate to see that, you know,
465
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:29.880
And he believed me, I think, but he was nice about it.
466
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:34.639
But other people at work that had
seen things like this also came up with
467
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.480
their stories, like the one that
I told you that they hung a bear
468
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.039
and he had seen it, you
know what I mean. So I'm not
469
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.119
embarrassed to tell the story. The
freakiest part about it is what's the point
470
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.360
of it, right, Well,
the point of it that bigfoot had seen
471
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:54.599
me the night before and had seen
those babies celebrating. And I swear to
472
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:59.320
you, I just got this feeling
as soon as all this went down,
473
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:08.079
that that bigfoot was punishing me because
I cared that's really interesting. And that's
474
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:14.800
the part, you know, isn't
that weird? That is it is a
475
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:20.840
very that's unlike anything I've ever heard. To be honest, you're saying multiple
476
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:25.559
other people have experienced similar things in
the same area. Well, not like
477
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.119
that, but they've seen them,
you know, like they've seen them up
478
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.679
closer. But yes, they've they're
you know, and I mean out where
479
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:42.559
I am. After that, there
was I have pictures of it, and
480
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.360
I posted on Facebook because I wanted
to know about some of the local hikers.
481
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.400
They go hiking everywhere. I want
to see if they'd ever seen these
482
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.719
bones. They were laid out.
There was moos, eh dear, all
483
00:36:52.800 --> 00:37:00.199
lined up like different ages of bones. I have the pictures. I mean,
484
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.360
I have receipts for stuff. Right
when I experienced stuff, I take
485
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.239
pictures. I have Like a moose
liver was left for me last year.
486
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.280
I called fishing game because it would
have been a proaching incident. It was
487
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.280
in the summer. They're like,
we don't know, like why just deliver
488
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.400
you know what I mean? It
was left where my car parked. Yes,
489
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.480
I don't get that. Why you're
telling me totally, man, I
490
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.679
mean it wasn't a dumping. It
wasn't anything dumping my dogs. This sounds
491
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:35.760
kind of silly, but my dog's
balls disappear the tennis balls, and they'll
492
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:40.840
pop up in the same place,
like just weird mind games, like really
493
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.480
weird mind games. And I was
hiking one day and I have I have
494
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:51.960
the the text message my roommate.
I had taken her out like a couple
495
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.639
of days before to where I was
hiking, and this is around where this
496
00:37:54.800 --> 00:38:00.039
all went on, you know,
with this with this cow elp, and
497
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.599
I took my dog. I had
a little i'd have a little shit so
498
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.360
and the German shepherd at this time, because I'd gotten the shit to my
499
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:14.320
dad, brought her to me as
a rescue. And anyways, so I'm
500
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:20.519
hiking. Three days I took her
hiking the roommate, and then three days
501
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.800
later I went hiking alone. And
I remember I took a picture of this
502
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.480
thing and I said, was this
there when we were hiking? And she's
503
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.559
like, yeah, that was there. And then we went up this hill
504
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:37.760
towards the mountain and I hear this. I don't want to say my dog's
505
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:43.159
name because people know me, but
it's a two syllable name and it's very
506
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:49.320
unique. It's German. And I
hear that, and then my dog did
507
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.800
too, and it was twice.
We hear this twice and it's in my
508
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:58.360
roommate's voice, and I'm like,
gosh, she came out here. I
509
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.960
thought I was going to have privacy, you know, of being kind of
510
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.280
like a brat about it, right
because I'm thinking, ah, she followed
511
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.039
me out here. I thought she
was going down by the river. I
512
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:08.119
wanted some time, not you know
what I mean. She knows my hike
513
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:14.599
spot and she's coming without, you
know. And so I texted her,
514
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.440
I said, are you here?
And she goes, no, I'm taking
515
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.880
a shower. I'm back at the
house. And I said, I just
516
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.280
heard you yell, and I have
the text messages. I said, I
517
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:30.800
heard you yell my dog's name,
you know, And I said her name,
518
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.519
and she goes, I believe you, she goes, but I swear
519
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:35.599
to you, he goes, I
was down at the river. Look,
520
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.360
these are the pictures. I took
them here at the house right now.
521
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.360
She took a picture, you know, and I was like, oh my
522
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.719
gosh. My dog even heard it
and perked up and was like we were
523
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.639
confused as to what to do next. We thought it was her. Her
524
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:54.760
name was Kristin. I thought it
was Kristin because it was in her voice
525
00:39:54.920 --> 00:40:00.920
and there was nobody around, do
you know what I mean? Yeah,
526
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:08.039
that's extremely strange and very unsettling.
Are there a lot of like missing person
527
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:14.719
cases in that area? Yeah?
Okay, and probably we don't want to
528
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:20.800
go into nomes for respect and also
for privacy. Yeah. Yeah, there's
529
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.320
just high weirdness. You know,
there's some high weirdness, and then other
530
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.960
people who are aren't connected to it, or who don't aren't sensitive to it,
531
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.320
would say no, you know,
because they don't get out or they
532
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.239
don't you know. I mean,
it's just anywhere you go, there is
533
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.159
especially high weirdness here. I think
because of the mountains that would be the
534
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.079
correlation. I'd say there's more high
weirdness here than there was where I grew
535
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.119
up, way more. I mean, this is like a mecca. But
536
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:53.199
I think it's connected to the Elk. I don't think it's anything else other
537
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.840
than the Elk, And I have
a theory. They really want to manage
538
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:02.119
animals, They really do the big
footoo. Yeah, they think they are
539
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.719
in charge, and you know,
I just believe that the man was given
540
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:10.000
dominion over all the creatures. I
think they are a competition. We're competition
541
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.239
for that. And I don't even
think they use the same parts of the
542
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.800
animal that we do. I mean, it's really not competition. I think
543
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.079
it has to do with different degrees
of glory. I think it has something
544
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:27.280
to do with things that are ancient, things that are beyond us that we
545
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.960
don't know. I think it keeps
our eyes on them. When we chase
546
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.519
after them or we focus on them, we're glorifying them, and that's what
547
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.440
they're looking for. I think that
they know ways that we don't. I
548
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.599
don't think they're, you know,
like necessarily all evil. You'll hear about
549
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.719
some savings. Some you know,
that's fine and dandy. Obviously they're able
550
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:52.559
to procreate, But I don't know
that they Some people say that they see
551
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.480
them and they look like they've lived
forever. I don't know that they really
552
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.119
can die. I don't know,
And I don't know that they're all the
553
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:06.920
way here either. But I know
that they have supernatural gifts, and I
554
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:12.440
know they've been around for a while, and I know that like in the
555
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.679
LDS or Mormon religion, and it's
not talked about, but some of the
556
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.880
apostles have seen them and talked about
them, the early pioneers, they've written.
557
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.440
It's in you know, history,
and so it's like, I mean
558
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.280
one occasion was like eighteen thirty five, you know. And I don't really
559
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.159
want to get too much into that
because I'm not trying to say anything about
560
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:44.119
that. I'm just saying that there's
things that have been happening for a long
561
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:49.480
time. It's not just a recent
thing, right, oh, absolutely.
562
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.760
And I mean it's not just you
know in the Mormon writings. I mean,
563
00:42:52.920 --> 00:43:00.559
there's multiple accounts in that time period, the eighteen hundreds of wild man's
564
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:07.199
all over the country. It's it's
incredible, I know, yeah it is.
565
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:16.000
And but I think that I think
that I don't know, they just
566
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:20.559
master things. But I feel protected, like I know who I am.
567
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:22.840
I know I'm like a child of
God. I know that, you know
568
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.320
what I mean, I know where
I come from. I know I do
569
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.039
have dominion over animals. I'm not
out you know, bow hunting elk right
570
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:37.360
now like alone, you know,
I'm not I'm not in fear, but
571
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.119
I haven't camped for a long time. You know, it does kind of
572
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:45.960
keep me. I'm careful and I
have an underwater whistle that I blow.
573
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.039
When they do the tree knocks.
I'll notice there's a correlation to when they
574
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.519
flush out deer, like I would
I heard a couple of years. Maybe
575
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.079
it was a last year or the
year before, I heard a tree knock
576
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:05.400
when I pulled up to take my
dogs out and it was one, two
577
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.079
and then three, and then I
thought, okay, started walking back to
578
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.400
my car. I was like,
I'm not doing that well, obviously right,
579
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:15.199
And then I look up and this
hurd a deer got flushed out of
580
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.880
the woods on the other side,
and then they started running back up into
581
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.880
the woods and they got flushed out
again. And I'm like, are you
582
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.039
kidding me? Like you're hearing tree
nock trade outside your house. No,
583
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:34.400
this is just I went, it's
about three miles away. It's like two
584
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:39.400
ridges over. Yeah, because I
take my dog somewhere else to go running
585
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.880
where we're not because I'm in a
neighborhood here, I'm kind of by I'm
586
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.440
right outside a mountain. I'm looking
at a mountain right now. But there's
587
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:52.400
some neighbors you know what I mean. So I don't have any situations around
588
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.639
my house to speak of. I
know. The neighbors said that she saw
589
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.800
someone in the garbage that was really
big, with a big hood that ran
590
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.639
really flapped, and I didn't ask
any question. But other than that,
591
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.280
you know what I mean, there's
just and I have chickens and stuff like
592
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.519
that, so I don't even want
you know, I don't have any issues
593
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:16.559
with them coming here. I don't. I don't have those issues. And
594
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.280
I don't know, you know.
I mean, I don't even want to
595
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.599
really talk because I don't want to. I don't want to conjure anything up.
596
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:29.480
No, I get you, you
know, I get that feeling where
597
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.239
it's like you want to be careful
what you talk about. The area where
598
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.800
you heard the tree knocks. Do
you ever hear any other strange sounds out
599
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.400
there that don't belong or yes,
okay, so here's something else and this
600
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:50.440
I can't put together. So and
oh I have video too where I started
601
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.400
to record because I had to.
And I came home and called my sister
602
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.480
in Florida and said, oh my
gosh, listen to this. She goes,
603
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.199
I can hear it. So what
happened was I went up on the
604
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.639
hill and there's this activity area.
I don't want to name it out too
605
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.239
much, but there's this activity area
which is not very populated because it's not
606
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.360
very popular. There's other activity areas
you know, people can go to.
607
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.360
But anyhow, no one was out
there. I took my dogs and I
608
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.480
was ball launching and my dog sometimes
she winds up the German shepherd. She
609
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:22.400
gets excited over the balls like a
coonhound wood over a raccoon or something.
610
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:27.280
It just is ridiculous, right,
but she gets really excited and so she
611
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.199
starts doing that, you know,
that sort of thing. But it's loud.
612
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.239
So she was doing that and then
until I released the ball and she
613
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.679
can go run because when she's running, she can't scream anymore, right,
614
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.920
so then she goes and runs.
Well, she did that a couple times,
615
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.039
and right behind us in the woodline, and it wasn't very far away.
616
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:52.920
It was maybe twenty feet into the
woodline. I heard this electronic like
617
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:59.119
a backup, like a trailer,
you know what I mean, just a
618
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:04.480
weird out of this world. It
wasn't really a trailer backup. It wasn't
619
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.679
mechanical, but it kind of sounded
like it, but it was loud,
620
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.719
okay, And I thought, what
is that? And it would it would
621
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.679
get loud and then dissipate, and
then get loud and then dissipate. And
622
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:27.400
then I heard like little cries,
you know, like I was tempted to
623
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.920
go in and check on what it
was, and I did not, and
624
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.440
instead I turned on my phone and
started recording. And I do have some
625
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:40.960
of those cries and you have that
recorded. So were they like like baby
626
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.880
cries or At first I thought it
sounded like baby cries, but then I
627
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.440
thought maybe it was an animal,
like a calf or something. So I
628
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:57.639
thought maybe it was an animal that
was being asphyxiated. And I thought,
629
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:05.639
but gosh, why that timing.
Why did that weird electronic noise spark up
630
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.760
when my dog was making that weird
noise. It's like it got attracted to
631
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:15.280
it and then started doing its thing. It was weird, really weird,
632
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:20.400
And I do have it. I
have a recording and it has the little
633
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.039
cries. You can you can hear
them. I mean, it's not loud
634
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:28.800
like being there right, but you
can still hear it. And add towards
635
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.800
the end it kind of sounded like
maybe it was a baby deer or a
636
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:40.400
or a full grown one. But
I went back in there. Huh,
637
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:46.440
I don't know why. A few
weeks later, there was a big elk
638
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:55.599
bone just laying right out in the
open where it shouldn't be. And I've
639
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.000
took that like as a warning,
you know what I mean. But there
640
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:05.920
there was no dead elk, carcass
or carry on inside or anything. So
641
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.760
another time I went out in the
same area, I show up. It's
642
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:14.960
in the afternoon, I get my
dogs out, and all of a sudden,
643
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:22.760
I hear that loud beeping, like
electronic, but it wasn't in the
644
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.320
woodline. It was down. It
was like, I don't know, it
645
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:32.800
was super loud, like almost like
an alarm, like almost like and this
646
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.519
is going to sound a little bit
crazy, but you know that one thing
647
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.480
that they show like they say that
they see and it's like this tall thing
648
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.000
that they call like radiohead or something
like that. Oh yeah, yep,
649
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.480
that it sounded like that. Really. I got into my car and left.
650
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:58.960
Yes, oh man, it was. It was a electronic loud alarm
651
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.679
sound and no was around, and
I'm just like, this is nuts.
652
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.719
And there was a vibration. You
could feel a vibration, but it was
653
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:14.440
just there was no reason for it
because there's no alarms there, there's nothing
654
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:19.480
there. When you're saying you feel
a vibration, can you so you were
655
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:23.480
feeling it like like it was affecting
you or can you describe a little bit
656
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:30.639
more what you mean by that?
So the noise was loud, but it
657
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:36.400
resonated like a vibration, Okay,
So it felt you could feel a vibration,
658
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.719
like like physically, I don't remember
physically putting my hand on anything and
659
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:47.239
feeling a vibration, but you could
feel that it was a vibration somehow.
660
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.039
I don't know how to explain it, just that it was a vibration.
661
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:58.440
Did your emotional state change it all
during that time? I have what happens
662
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.840
when stuff like that happens, is
I the flighty and so I get mad
663
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:08.480
and do the flight. Okay,
and so when that happens, what happened?
664
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:14.119
What I will say happens is I
get sick, but my emotions don't
665
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:19.280
like I don't want to I don't
want to go right then investigate because I
666
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.320
know that it's something, probably bad. Something. Look, you know what
667
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:27.719
I mean, and I know that
it's a warning to me, just like
668
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.880
I feel like anytime I've dealt with
this stuff, even with that cow elk
669
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.239
with the calf, it's like always
a warning. And here's one more thing
670
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:43.840
I have to tell you. So
on that same trail, right after that
671
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.719
cow elk sing happened, my dogs
and I will go down this trail and
672
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:52.000
this is where I found this old
pickaxe. It was just awesome. I
673
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:58.079
still have it. But we go
down this really steep trail and there's no
674
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.320
trees where we go. You have
to go up the mountain up on top
675
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:07.119
because it's just covered with like there's
old mining stuff, you know, like
676
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:14.000
not stuff, but like the ground
is not. There's no trees right until
677
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.559
you get up on top, and
then there's trees everywhere galore. Right.
678
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:22.840
So I went in one day and
this tree that was about ten foot twelve
679
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:30.119
foot tall was laying right there.
It had been ripped off and it probably
680
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:36.920
had about I don't know, eight
inch ten inch circumference. Healthy tree,
681
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.880
perfectly healthy. I have pictures,
and I thought, what in the hell
682
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:46.719
broke that off and threw it here? Because you can't, I mean,
683
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:50.480
you have to bring it there,
and why is it right here where I
684
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:54.760
walk? And why is it broke
off? It wasn't you know, it
685
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.960
wasn't axed or chainsawed, you know
what I mean. It wasn't sod so
686
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:07.760
it was ripped and the bark was
broken around it. It was a brand
687
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.760
new tree. So it's like something
through it there, Like stay the head
688
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:16.400
away from here, you know what
I mean. It's right right where we
689
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:23.119
go. We are always right there. Absolutely, that one area sounds extremely
690
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:27.880
weird. I don't know how often
I would go there by myself, to
691
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:34.280
be honest. No, there's just
some really really weird stuff that you're experiencing
692
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:40.360
in whatever this one area is.
And you said earlier that this this town
693
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.400
has a lot of high strangeness in
it, So is there other stuff going
694
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:55.000
on besides Bigfoot? And if you
don't want to get into it, I
695
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.760
totally respect that and we can move
on. There's a lot of suicides O
696
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:07.119
yah, gotcha. And one was
just in the woods, so oh boy,
697
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:12.000
and it was a big deal,
so just a month ago. Yeah,
698
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.519
so it was a local pastor to
hear it. But I don't think
699
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.039
I don't tie that to anything.
I'm sure his family you know, so
700
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.519
it was. But other than that, there's young, a lot of young
701
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.239
suicides and I don't want to speak
for anyone else because there was also an
702
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:34.920
incident which was weird and I think
I can't remember his name, but there
703
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.280
was a podcast that was done on
this kid that I know who his mom
704
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:50.760
is, but he just had called
her and then like someone was pursuing him
705
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:53.639
or something, and then you know, they found him up on a gould
706
00:54:54.280 --> 00:55:00.360
but nobody knows. But then right
before that there was like two suicide sites
707
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:07.039
which were really odd type. So
but you know, that just sounds like
708
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:13.519
it's more like humans, you know, bad behavior, right, maybe if
709
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.039
there was some sort of thing going
on that wasn't there's just a lot of
710
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:22.239
speculation as to whether they were or
not, you know, but I don't
711
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.559
know. I don't know those situations
or if there's anything to those, and
712
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.599
I just try to stay away from
that because I think if you get caught
713
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:36.360
up in that, that's the type
of spirit you don't want to be friendly
714
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.280
with, because you know, who
needs to be depressed, right, Yeah,
715
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:45.239
And I get that. Are there
also a lot of like UFO sightings
716
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:50.800
or things like that in the same
area, there's there's so many mountains.
717
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.360
It's you know, there's not a
lot of there's sky. But it's like,
718
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:02.719
I don't know, I'm not sure. I haven't you know, had
719
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:10.000
any, but I wouldn't be surprised, you know. But I know that
720
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:17.079
when there was an avalanche and there
was a couple of years ago and there
721
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:22.719
was a doctor who died and then
they had the helicopter go up and rescue.
722
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:29.679
Well didn't rescue, but you know, God recovered the body. And
723
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.840
so there was a big thing that
went around, the coyotes are out,
724
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.719
keep your dogs in. They're going
crazy. They're going crazy. And I
725
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.920
was listening to them, and they
those were not coyotes, it's all.
726
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:49.840
It wasn't a like feeble attempt to
make coyote howls, but that was I
727
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.559
figured it was something else make trying
to sound like coyotes. And they were
728
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:58.239
angry over those helicopters, you know, because it was right when they were
729
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.920
doing that stuff up there, is
it because the sound of it was much
730
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:06.480
louder. What were the main things
that tipped you off that it wasn't actually
731
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.679
coyotes. Well, I grew up
around coyotes, so I can almost imitate
732
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:16.199
a coyote, right, like you
can call them in so but they didn't.
733
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:27.119
It was louder and more they carried
on more like extended out the howl,
734
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.119
and it took different like tones.
I mean, it just didn't.
735
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:36.480
It didn't sound like it wasn't a
coyote. It was like trying to sound
736
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.519
like a kyote, but it didn't. There's no coyote that ever sounded like
737
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.480
that. I never heard a coyote
make those sounds. At some point they
738
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:46.599
sounded similar to kyote. And then
they would extend it out and it would
739
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.880
go too far, and then it
would change tone. It's like, that's
740
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.639
not coyote, that's someone imitated.
But it's too loud to be a person,
741
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:58.760
you see what I mean. Yeah, it's hard to explain. I
742
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:01.760
did try to record it out my
front window or my front door because you
743
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:07.679
could hear it, but I couldn't
capture it. So, but I did
744
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:15.239
capture those those noises from the cries
in the woodline, and I just think
745
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:21.920
that's really close to two dogs and
a person to be killing if it was
746
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.159
a predator. I mean, what
are the chances it was killing something that
747
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:29.679
was crying out like that that close
to me to where I could record it,
748
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.880
you know what I mean, right, or even you know, another
749
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:37.519
way to look at it is,
you know, places like Southeast Alaska,
750
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:43.960
they they talk about how they hear
cries in the woods and it's a way
751
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:50.519
that you know, the hairy man
is trying to lure people into the woods
752
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:55.840
because they're going to see see if
there's a baby in trouble, and usually
753
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:02.079
this is there's like a you know, there's a woman involved. Like they
754
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:06.440
often know that if they use this
type of baby cry, they have a
755
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.480
better chance of getting them lured into
the woods. So it's just that that
756
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:14.239
kind of came to mind when I
was hearing your story as well. That's
757
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:20.039
good. That's good because my dreams
from even before this happened are about me
758
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:24.920
rescuing little kids or animals and trying
to keep them safe. What is that
759
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.440
about? And then I'm in the
woods and these sounds come out, and
760
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.440
you would think that I would go
and rescue them, but I don't because
761
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.440
I don't trust because I saw one
when I was you know, young,
762
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:43.280
and I know I know that they're
there. I mean, I don't know
763
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:47.880
what they are. I don't know
how dangerous they are. I think that
764
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:55.199
they have like a I think there's
stipulations to their existence. I think that
765
00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:00.320
they're not supposed to mess with us. I mean that's I truly, truly
766
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:07.199
believe that. I believe there's various
degrees of glory, and I believe that,
767
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.719
you know, we're here for a
purpose, they're there for another purpose
768
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.599
and our world's collide. But they're
not supposed to mess with us. But
769
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:20.239
I do believe they're jealous of us. And it's obviously not because we have
770
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:25.360
wonderful skills, because they outclass us
one hundred percent, right, But somehow
771
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:30.400
they are always trying to prove that
they are in charge of the animals,
772
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:36.039
and I don't know what that's about. It's a really interesting viewpoint. I
773
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.559
really haven't heard a lot on when
I've been doing interviews over the last few
774
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:45.519
years, So I'm kind of curious
to ask you, how is it that
775
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:52.159
you view these creatures, Like,
how would you describe what a bigfoot is?
776
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:57.119
Then anytime I hear anybody start to
get into the hole, Oh,
777
01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.400
they could survive in the wild,
and you know, this could be their
778
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:04.039
forged for this and they could live
there. I just want to laugh because
779
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.519
I know they're not here all the
time. They're not like that. I'm
780
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:15.519
not they can't be here. They're
not They're not like a bear or organic.
781
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:21.960
They're not of this earth like we
are. They're like on a different
782
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:28.400
you know, they're in a different
place. And I'm not saying they don't
783
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:34.559
manifest physically, but I think they've
you know, I think we've heard enough
784
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.920
about them, at least in folklore
and also in literature, and also in
785
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:42.320
sightings, which isn't folklore, to
where we know that they do things we
786
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.280
don't know how to do. But
I don't think they're special. I think
787
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:50.119
they want to be worshiped, and
I think they want to worship could be
788
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:53.320
anything. You know, We've got
bigfoot pictures and people focus on them and
789
01:01:54.480 --> 01:02:00.519
make money off it statues in some
towns even you know, it's it's very
790
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:04.039
interesting to think about that way.
You think there could be maybe portals involved,
791
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:09.079
or yeah, whatever that is.
There's people that know so much more
792
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:13.199
about that, and I think I
have an idea, but it seems like
793
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.960
every time I get into that or
talk about it, I have like I
794
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:23.199
just I go it just it doesn't
sit well because I feel like I feel
795
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:29.679
like I'm too vulnerable. I don't
like it to affect my I really I
796
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:34.079
really just like to live, you
know, here and out. Like I
797
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.199
find pleasure in things like how cute
those elk were doing that? You know
798
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.760
what I mean? Exactly? I
find pleasure in, like, you know,
799
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:44.400
taking care of my chickens and the
cute stuff they do, my dogs,
800
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.880
my grandkids, my you know what
I mean. There's just so much
801
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:51.119
to enjoy in this world. I
really do enjoy things, absolutely, but
802
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.360
whenever I deal with that part of
things, even from a really young age,
803
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:02.480
I feel like they just put a
lot of error and worry and stress
804
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.760
and just they make you worry.
I mean, I can't even go out
805
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.639
hiking without hearing them call my dog's
name. You know what I mean,
806
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:14.519
Well, yeah I can. They
don't call it every time, but or
807
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:16.920
a ball disappears, and it's when
you least expect expect it, and then
808
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:22.320
you get all these balls where you've
never been. You go picking and there's
809
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:24.840
all the balls in perfect shape,
and they're your balls. You've been missing
810
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.519
them. In fact, when I
was texting that roommate about hearing her call
811
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:32.280
out my dog's name. I said, Oh, and I lost two balls
812
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:37.519
somehow too. She's like, oh
no, I mean just to just to
813
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.159
you know, highlight how often this
happens. And it's like, oh,
814
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:44.360
well, maybe they go into the
the high weeds, Sherry. Maybe you
815
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:50.760
know, maybe the coyotes grab them
and you know, I mean mob them
816
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.719
around and put them together in one
place. I don't know, you know,
817
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:58.519
maybe homeless people that are coming into
the woods now, you know,
818
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.159
I mean more and more, maybe
they're I don't know, but I do
819
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:06.320
know that that there was a message
to me with that, with that elk,
820
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:15.840
and there's been several messages to me. And the more the more experiences
821
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:23.559
I have, it kind of turns
different. It becomes it's become scarier because
822
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:30.239
of those electronic sounds. M m. Yeah. And if I didn't have
823
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:36.000
my dogs with me, I just
don't think, you know, my cell
824
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.599
phone and stuff like that. If
I didn't have my dogs with me,
825
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:43.639
I mean, I wouldn't probably go
where I'm going and stuff, but I
826
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.440
just wouldn't feel as safe. And
I also am kind of concerned about my
827
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:49.079
dogs. I don't let them out
of my sight and we stay in open
828
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:53.119
areas. I don't let them go
into the wood like I used to.
829
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:55.840
We used to go into the brush
and things, and then you know,
830
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.840
I was finding all those bones and
stuff and then hearing those calls. It's
831
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.039
it's just it's kind of creepy.
It's kind of creepy anyways, Like because
832
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.760
sometimes where we go, you know, you'll find cachets where mountainin have buried
833
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.199
some bones and stuff too, you
know what I mean. So you can
834
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.280
you kind of get a little bit
of creepiness there, you know what I
835
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:20.039
mean. So there's creepiness anyhow.
But has has something called your dog's name
836
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:25.119
multiple times? Or is it just
the one time? Thank god, just
837
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:29.360
that one time. Okay, that's
still weird though, Yeah, isn't it?
838
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:33.039
It's super weird. My dog perked
up its ears and looked. I
839
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.119
don't know if I would go back
to that place, to be honest,
840
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.920
I mean, just talking personally like
that would weird me out. I know,
841
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:46.920
she almost she almost turned and went
that direction, but she didn't because
842
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:53.360
she was with me, Like there
was a like, isn't that weird?
843
01:05:53.840 --> 01:06:00.280
It's it's super weird. Yeah,
what's the what's the most recent time that
844
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:16.960
you've had a dream that included something
to do with bigfoot. Oh, I
845
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:23.239
don't know. I mean I've had
some I guess I had a bad dream
846
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.360
a couple of months ago and I
woke up and said, oh my gosh.
847
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.760
I remember waking up going what a
horrible dream. But it was more
848
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:39.599
about just being concerned about babies and
stuff and little animal. Is that weird?
849
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:44.719
Yeah, no, I mean it's
very it's very out of the ordinary
850
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:53.199
for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
I just think that maybe that's my I
851
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:59.119
think that they observe. Obviously,
they're called watchers, right, and I
852
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:01.800
think they can find your weakness and
they pick up on it. I don't
853
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:06.840
believe that they can read your mind. I think they're clever. I think
854
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:14.639
they're clivoyant at reading your actions,
and so it seems like there can read
855
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.079
your mind. I believe that only
God can read your mind. I think
856
01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:21.519
that they can put things into your
mind, though, But I don't believe
857
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:27.760
that they can read your mind.
And that's just my belief. But I
858
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.760
just think that they pick up on
your weaknesses and the things that you you
859
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.360
know, if you're going out there
enough, and I mean it's like almost
860
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:35.440
every day like I'm out there,
you know, what I mean. So
861
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:41.480
there's been a lot of you know, reading of me. If that's what
862
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.400
they're doing. I mean, I'm
probably just even talking about it. I
863
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:50.639
feel like we're it's like a sideline
or or a sidebar conversation. It's like,
864
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:56.840
I don't know how much. I
don't know how much I want to
865
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.039
give to it, because I don't
think there were any of it. I
866
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:04.960
know that that that they've existed for
a long time. I know there's a
867
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:11.199
ramp up in their importance. I
think that they're dangerous. I think they're
868
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:16.880
unclean. I noticed that people just
an observation, people that get terrorized physically
869
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:24.319
by them, like in person scared. I think they read that situation as
870
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:30.399
well. I think they get entertained
by other people and then mess with them,
871
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.279
you know, like that whole having
bad dreams and things like that.
872
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:42.279
I know that in some of the
accounts from one of the apostles for the
873
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:47.239
the LDS Church, whatever it was
that talked to him, the big hairy
874
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:53.399
creature whatever it was, had said
that he was there to destroy human souls,
875
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:58.760
that it was a miserable, that
he was miserable and couldn't die,
876
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.600
you know, And I mean you
know, there's folklore too, so I
877
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:06.319
believe there were accounts, but I
don't know how they change throughout time.
878
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:10.479
I'm just, you know, really
open to know that the things change,
879
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:14.880
and some of the older accounts don't
sound like the more recent accounts. But
880
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.279
I know that the Bigfoot sure hasn't
evolved much. I mean, you know,
881
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:25.439
they're not they're not wearing sandals and
they're not you know, I mean,
882
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:30.199
they kind of don't evolve at all. They're timeless. They kind of
883
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:35.039
stay where they're at. Whereas we
we evolved, you know, we change
884
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:41.520
and we progress, so there's something
to that. They are not equipped to
885
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:45.359
evolve. They have what they have, and they come in and out of
886
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.319
our realm, and you know,
I mean, I guess if you don't
887
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.479
go in the woods, you don't
have to deal with them, but they're
888
01:09:51.479 --> 01:10:00.119
there. You know, makes you
wonder where they're going back to after they
889
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:03.439
come to our areas and then they
go somewhere else. Where is it they're
890
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.840
going back to? You know?
Yeah, it does. And also when
891
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.920
people say that they've killed them,
it makes you wonder how much of that
892
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.720
is true? And then what does
that mean? Like if someone's killed one
893
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.640
what happens to their Do they have
a soul? And if they have a
894
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:21.439
soul, do they get reborn again? Because some people believe that they can't
895
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:28.399
ever die. Like, like,
who cares? Right? Like all these
896
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:33.520
things are so mystifying and so curious
that we could get stuck on them and
897
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:38.920
not have our focus somewhere else.
I just really believe that it's dangerous,
898
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:44.560
at least for someone like me who's
been so imprinted. And you know,
899
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.279
here's the problem. Anywhere I go, I can go. I mean anywhere
900
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:53.000
I go. I love the country
anywhere I go. You know, I
901
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:59.239
guess when I was in North Dakota, I didn't feel like there was any
902
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:09.880
count there, but what went through
there and one of the tribal members had
903
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:14.640
had a heart attack when they had
the sighting it had gone on if you
904
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.479
look up, I don't know someone
and I don't know if it was the
905
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:26.399
Bigfoot. What's the group called that
does the investigations for real beef. Yeah,
906
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:30.239
I think they did investigation, but
I had also because I lived there,
907
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:38.359
my daughter works closely there, and
one of the elders had had a
908
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:42.079
heart attack when they saw it.
But some of the ladies had seen it
909
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:46.720
out on the ice on the Soca
Quia like Soka Koua, and so I
910
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.399
mean, I just you know,
I mean, I hear about things,
911
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.920
and you know, I like to
investigate too. There was a time when
912
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.760
I was trying to put it together, but since I've been here and had
913
01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:00.319
these things going on, and I've
kind of like put it together where I'm
914
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.239
like, oh, I see what's
going on. It's trying to get me.
915
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:08.119
The more you look and the more
you know you hear about people seeking
916
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:15.319
them out, no one ever gets
anywhere with it. It's like, you
917
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:19.520
know, a treasure hunt kind of, it's fruitless. It's a treasure hunt
918
01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:28.279
that for most people goes on forever
and hopefully it'll go somewhere in our lifetime.
919
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:34.119
But for a lot of people it
really doesn't. It can become all
920
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:41.319
consuming. There's a few people that
have said that, has there been any
921
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:47.920
reports in your area where they've been
like particularly aggressive reports or just reports more
922
01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:55.119
high strangeness. So where I'm at, we don't really report things much.
923
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:58.119
I mean obviously, you know,
because we thought, like somebody did call
924
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.199
when like I heard the nameighbors and
it's fireworks, and you think, you
925
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:05.520
know, what I mean, there's
just not a lot of We're just more
926
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:09.199
to ourselves. I mean it's all
over. I mean, if you go
927
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:15.079
toward even more south and stuff,
I mean, it's pretty you know.
928
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.479
I mean, Okay, So for
instance, even when I went to physical
929
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:23.840
therapy, the gal's like, oh, yeah, I see, and I
930
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:26.920
can't see the town, but there's
several towns around, you know what I
931
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.880
mean. But it's anyways, she
goes. When I came into town,
932
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:38.439
I saw one walking and then we
had the owner of the place was like,
933
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:41.119
yeah, you know, blah blah
blah blah blah. And then I'm
934
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:45.319
talking to another kid and he's like, yeah, we just had had a
935
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:51.279
deer hanging. And they were out
on one of the ravines. You know,
936
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:54.920
I don't want to give away where
I'm at, but I probably have
937
01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:00.359
already. But anyhow, and the
the bigfoot kept coming by his back and
938
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:05.239
like I said, kept smacking their
house and their vehicles of stuff because it
939
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:09.039
was mad because they had this thing
hanging out there, you know what I
940
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:12.319
mean, what it had been hunting
season. Like they don't like right,
941
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:16.239
you know, for trophy, they
don't like you to hang it. You're
942
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.600
not hanging it to show. But
to them that's what it is. I
943
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:21.439
mean, it's almost like they put
those bones out and line them up like
944
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:26.800
they're the big like you know,
trophy people. They're in control of the
945
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:29.760
animal. No, you're not.
And if you read the Bible, I
946
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.039
mean obviously right Genesis it talks about
if you do tie it back to this
947
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.880
mind. I'm not saying that they
are Cain, Okay, I'm just saying
948
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:42.319
there's a certain theme, common theme. There's like this, they're of the
949
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:47.159
same vein. Something's there because Cain. The reason Cain killed Abel with a
950
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:50.560
rock. You know how they like
to throw their rocks, right, killed
951
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:55.000
Able with the rock was he was
jealous of him. The reason he was
952
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:59.560
jealous of them. In the Bible, it says that Abel was a farmer.
953
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.760
He was a shepherd type. He
was a husbandry of animals. He
954
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:11.439
was in charge of actual souls animals. And Cain was a a dirt tiller.
955
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.800
He was a farmer, but he
was not in charge of animals.
956
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.199
He could, he wasn't. That
was not his degree of glory. So
957
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:21.800
when it came time to give the
offering, and it's it's in the Bible,
958
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:28.720
these are just my words. In
scripture, it says that the Lord
959
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:41.039
was not happy with Cain's sacrifice.
He was he was happy with Abels,
960
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:45.960
and that's why Cain killed Abel.
Abel was in charge of animals. Animals
961
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:51.880
are of a higher spirit, you
know, They're They're more sentient than plants,
962
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:57.000
you know what I mean, if
you're going to give an offering,
963
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:01.920
right, So, I just feel
like it has to do with glory.
964
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:06.560
I'm not I know that sounds really
far out there, but it's just I'm
965
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:11.439
not saying it's direct. I'm just
saying, going on that same theme,
966
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:19.000
somehow it ties into their need to
be in charge of animals. And it's
967
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:29.640
ridiculous, you know. It's interesting. Yeah, that is. I hear
968
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:32.920
a lot of different theories on the
show, and I would have to say
969
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:36.960
that that is a very unique one. It's it's interesting to think about.
970
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.479
Though. I've talked to another guy
from this area, and Okay, there's
971
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:46.960
some weird stuff that goes on in
up where I think we might be talking.
972
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:56.600
But and this has been a really
interesting chat about. I mean,
973
01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:00.359
I feel things are going to continue
to happen in your area, no,
974
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:03.000
I know, and I do have
to scale back, and I agree with
975
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:08.880
you. Just so you know,
I know that they're going to increase,
976
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:12.359
right, I know I know that
they will. I mean, even though
977
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:14.199
I pray when I go out there
and stuff, the fact that I go
978
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.720
out there almost feels like I'm returning
to the warrant, you know what I
979
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:23.479
mean, Like there's it's our it's
already been ruined. So I've got to
980
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:26.920
find a new place to go.
But I have to go out of where
981
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:31.600
I'm at, out of the area
because it's all over. It's there's like
982
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:41.720
you can go twenty miles and it's
still there around I'm not kidding. It's
983
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:46.439
just it's just interactions with with the
creature all over the place. Up there,
984
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:54.039
you're saying, there is there is, Yeah, if you're out,
985
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:59.159
if you're out and you're disturbing,
if you're in the way. Just the
986
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:03.199
common denominator is the elk, just
so you know. So if you're not
987
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:10.479
in where the deer are or the
elk, you're probably better off, do
988
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.119
you know what I mean? Why
do you think the common denominator is the
989
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:18.840
elk? I don't know, I
don't know, but it's it's definitely they
990
01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:24.600
definitely key in on them. I
mean, it's the other guy I was
991
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:29.239
talking to you. There was elk
involved, so oh yeah, yeah,
992
01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:31.720
there you go. Yeah yeah,
I mean not so much the moose,
993
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:35.319
but they I think because the elk
are like cows, like they migrate in
994
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:40.159
herds, you can control them better. And like deer two. You know,
995
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:45.359
I just think that they just they
like get off on it. They
996
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:48.119
think that I know that sounds see. I mean, I just I feel
997
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:51.760
like it's crazy to even talk about
it. But you got to understand.
998
01:18:53.359 --> 01:19:00.840
I mean, I've gone driving,
I took a vacation. I went driving
999
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.159
up the river and you know,
close to where that guy, not on
1000
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purpose because I live here, but
close to where that guy had that big
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01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:14.760
foot sighting and out of the river
bank come running two dose and like rammed
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into my front quarter panel or front
fender and this my side door. And
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it's like they were being chased.
And I'm like, when that was chased,
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yeah, being yeah, you know
whatever. But it's like I just
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feel like, you know, I
mean, it just put me on such
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high alert. And I never hit
you know, I didn't hit them.
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They ran and of course they could
have been running up there, but I
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mean they were in such a hurry
to get out of that embankment, and
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it's like, I just feel like, I don't know, I feel like
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I get messed with you know what
I mean a little bit? Yeah.
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No, I mean you've you've had
You're dealing with it your whole life for
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sure. But and I'm glad we
talked tonight. And please keep me in
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the loop with if things con continue
to happen with you know, hearing weird
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sounds or just the ordinary things.
Yeah, that'd be interested to know if
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it continues to happen. But yeah, I will let you know. Thank
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you so much for coming on tonight. Yeah, you bet, Thank you
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for having me. Take care.
Please take a minute to help out the
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encounter related to the following, or
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to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail. Dot com or pass on my email.
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Here's the list. All right,
I'm going to use this space this
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week to announce that I'll be at
the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge organ as an
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atender. I won't be presenting or
anything, but I'll be hanging out trying
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to interview people that have had bigfoot
counters. If you're from the Oakridge,
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Oregon area or surrounding and you've had
a Bigfoot experience, please contact me directly
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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Also, Priscilla was nice enough that if
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you get your tickets through Sasquatch Summerfest
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to all the Bigfoot Society Patreon and
YouTube channel members. It's your support that
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helps keep the show going and I
extremely appreciate it. Here at big for
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Society, we're headed to the moon
and here's a current update about going full
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01:21:56.079 --> 01:22:00.159
time. So here we go.
As of five twenty two. You're now
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at two hundred and two patroons out
of eight hundred and twenty four needed.
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That's twenty four point five to one
percent, almost a quarter of the way
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there, guys, brings us down
to six hundred and twenty two left to
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join the patroon. So a huge
thank you to Barbara, Gregory, Dana
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Craig, Jeff, Steve, reckyde
Norm, Meghan, Dan, Daddy Chatty,
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01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:24.520
Joe Eber, Eike Jewels, Josh, Ryan Todd, Nathan Gabe,
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01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:30.520
Bill Lucky, Meghan William, Bobby, Joe, and Inger for joining recently.
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If you want to join in the
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patreon dot com Forward Slash the big
Foot Society. I'll see you there,
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and again, thanks for listening.
Her and I can get out here,
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we can tell our stories. Maybe
there's somebody else out there listening it's too
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afraid to tell their story. Maybe
this will give them the courage to come
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out. And I feel so bad
about it. Who cares what anybody thinks.
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I know what I saw, I
know what's out there. That's all
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I can. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you
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ever see one of these things,
you need to tell, because if you
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don't, then shame on you.
You know, shame on you. Wait
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there's more. Monsterfest two is coming
up soon and beautiful Canton, Ohio,
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and I will be there doing a
live podcast. If you've ever wanted to
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meet Bigfoot Society in person, this
is the year to do it. My
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special guest in the live podcast episode
will be Justin from Cryptids of the Corn.
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You will not want to miss this
live episode and then you can hang
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out with me at Monsterfest. You
can go to small Town Monsters dot com
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to get your tickets. Pre sale
tickets are twenty dollars fifty cents and tickets
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at the door will be twenty five
dollars. But kids twelve and under are
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free. How many places can you
go to where at kids twelve and under
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are free? Not many? New
this year are the live workshops. I'm
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excited about this, extremely excited.
How to cast a footprint, how to
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01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:04.159
collect dem in the woods, ghosts
hunting tools one oh one, how to
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01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:12.439
do research. Also, there's going
to be food trucks outside this year and
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new guests, new speakers, people
you won't I mean, the coolest thing
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about last year is that I got
to meet people I was not expecting to
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be there, people like less Odell, John Hickinbottom, really cool, big
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people that I never would have thought
that I would have met before. And
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Seth Breedlove made it happen by making
this incredible place for the community to get
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together. Monsterfest in Canohio June twenty
eighth through twenty ninth. Guys, do
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not miss this year. If you
missed last year, don't miss this year.
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Head on over right now to Smalltown
Monsters dot com. I hope to
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01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:56.079
see you there.