Dec. 2, 2024

We Were Face to Face with the Unknown! | Babcock Ranch, Florida | The Creature Preacher!

Join us as the Creature Preacher, a popular TikTok content creator, shares his gripping encounter with the elusive Skunk Ape during his Boy Scout days in Florida. From participating in Scout activities to witnessing an unexplained creature, Creature...

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Season 1

Join us as the Creature Preacher, a popular TikTok content creator, shares his gripping encounter with the elusive Skunk Ape during his Boy Scout days in Florida. From participating in Scout activities to witnessing an unexplained creature, Creature Preacher's story dives deep into the mysteries of Bigfoot and its conservation. Don't miss this fascinating episode filled with firsthand accounts, encounters, and theories that challenge our understanding of these cryptic beings.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show, all right, Big for Society got

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the privilege of talking to individual I've wanted to get

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on the show for quite a while. If you're over

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in the TikTok space, you've probably run across an individual.

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His name is a Creature Preacher and he just has

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incredible content and some really good stories Bigfoot related things.

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I just I love watching his stuff. But Creech, it's

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a pleasure to have you on the show today.

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Thank you, brother. I'm really excited to be here. I

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get to enjoy your content on a regular basis, and

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I've got to meet a lot of your friends, and

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everybody speaks highly of you. You are the archive of

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all things big Foot, and I love that.

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Well, thank you for the kind words, because you were

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down to Florida and you met you met some people

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down there, like Tate and Brian right.

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I did. Yeah, I got to meet quite a few people,

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Bryan Gobinski, a few others there. Was privileged to speak

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at the Oklla Bigfoot Convention at the Skunkake Brown Table.

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So I got to meet a lot of those guys

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and hope to work with some of them.

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In the future and call them friends.

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Now, this weekend, we'reetting to go out with David Shuey

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his Skuncake camp out at the headquarters there with the

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mitch Outh, Florida Bigfoot Alliance and a few others. I

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can't remember the name of their exact group, and I

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feel horrible, but Marie is the head of that chapter.

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And they're fantastic folks.

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We're gonna do an overnight camp out not far from

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where I had a sighting, probably about fifty minutes as

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the sparrow flies. But when I was a young man,

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I had seen something in South Florida that started everything

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for me and changed everything.

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For me at the same time. But I was a boy.

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Scout at the time, and anybody in South Florida there

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was a boy scout well, most likely remember Camp Miles

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and the Babcock Scout Ranch, which was a very large

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scout ranch, the largest one in Florida, and it was

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the largest cattle ranch in Florida and the second largest

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cattle ranch in the United States of America at that time.

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Babcock Ranch ran them a lot of cows, a lot

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of scrub pine. There's a lot of different mixed environment

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out that way. But I was a life scout working

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on my Eagle Scout at the time. We had a

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summer camp out there. I was fourteen years old and

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I'll never forget that night. And I've changed a lot

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since then. But we were a little bit rowdy back then,

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and this whole story. To tell the whole story, I

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guess I just have to tell the whole story. But

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it was the weekend and we had all of our

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folks coming in for.

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A big shindig.

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We were on land that at one time had been

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owned by the Makassuki tribe, the Seminole Band of Florida.

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So they came out and did a presentation, a powwow

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for us, and it was a lot of fun. They

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have a big lake there at Camp Miles, and I'll

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never forget that night because as the Scouts were all

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performing and the Seminoles were there performing, we were facing

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the lake on bleachers and all of a sudden, one

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of the scouts yells and alligator, and sure enough, there

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was a giant alligator creeping up towards the people that

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were dancing around the fire, and they chased them back

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into the lake. And that happened to be the same

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lake where all of us scouts did our mile Meribad

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swim ordinarily with people alongside the swimmers and canoes looking

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for the big alligators. Quite a place, and it's changed

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a lot now, But that night that it happened, it

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was right after the Seminole presentation, which actually comes into

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this story later on. But we had watched all the

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Seminole dancers, we had all went back to our respective camps.

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wasn't just one scout troop. It was multiple Scouts rooms

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from all over the state of Florida coming in for

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the jamboree for the Boy Scouts for America. So in

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this great big it's like a labyrinth, a giant map.

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he got too far from a lake, and there was

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a central kind of a hub where we would all

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go and meet where they had a little community store,

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where they had a lodge, and they had the community areas,

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and after hours sometimes we would sneak down there and

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we would get soda pops and we'd hang out.

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We weren't supposed to, but we would.

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That night, we had intended to go down and try

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to tip the machines and get a couple of free pops,

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which never worked. And I always tell people don't do

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that because people died doing it every year. I think

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there's about ten deaths a year from people messing with

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machines and then falling on them, believe it or not.

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But we went down there that night, and we snuck

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down after all the Scouts and I had most of

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the younger Scouts who went to bed. We had two

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Scout masters, but one of them never slept wherever we

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were camping. They hated the camp so they went and

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they slept in the parking lot in their van. And

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the one that we were left with was a man

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by the name of Junior. He was in his thirties

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at the time, but he was a little bit dim bulb.

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He wasn't the smartest guy, and we loved him though.

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He was a good guy that sit. They left us

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to watch us at night, and we snuck out after

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he went to bed and went down there and had

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a good time. We hung out maybe thirty minutes, and

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we decided we weren't getting any pops we would head back.

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It was probably two in the morning at this point,

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I think. And on the way back we didn't have

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I don't know if you remember those old chunky flashlights

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that were more flashlight or more battery than flashlight. They

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were just a giant battery and like a plastic house

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it didn't have a very strong beam. I had one

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of those in my hand, and this was back in

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nineteen ninety three somewhere around there. It was a long

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time ago, so I didn't have the fancy old lights

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that we have now. So I had one of those

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lights on, but we didn't have the lights on because

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we could see enough ambient light to see the path.

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It was a sandy path in the middle of palmeto

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scrub and pine trees and everything, so we could see

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the path. We didn't really want lights giving away. We

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were out sneaking around, so we'd keep the lights off

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and when we got back to camp we'd go to

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bed and everything and be fine. So we had our

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lights off, and as we were heading back one of

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my friends Christmas, there were our a couple of people,

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which makes this very interesting as I have other friends

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that can corroborate the story live this with me, and

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that's always interesting talking with him all these years later.

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He was at the back of the pack and I

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was somewhere in the middle. There was only five or

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six of us, you know, out that night, and we

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had heard something behind us on the trail, and the

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first time we heard it sounded like something scuffing or something.

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In the bushes.

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We turned our lights on, turned back, didn't see anything.

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And then we heard something again to the right of us,

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and again turned our lights on, didn't see anything, and

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we had as soon we're talking among ourselves and we're

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thinking somebody's messing with us, and my friend Chris goes,

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it's just one of the other campers. We kept walking

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and I hear something off to the right that sounds

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like a grunt, like a low low, almost like a

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bear cough. And I was like, what was that? And

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we all stop and we're looking over there and nothing,

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you know, we turn our lights on. Nothing, We start

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walking again, and we walked just a little ways. And

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I didn't realize this until later, but there was a smell.

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It just I didn't register that at the time, but

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one of my other friends had just before that said

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who cut a fart? We didn't really We just thought

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that it was one of us like this just didn't

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really even put two and two together. And we take

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it a few more steps and my friend kriggers, what

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do you do? And we all turn around when he

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says that, he turns the light on and in the

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path directly in the middle of the road.

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Is is something? You know?

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It just I've taken a stab at describing you a

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dozen times. It wasn't very tall, it wasn't like what

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I would anticipate seeing, you know, it was a big

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for it. I had no place of reference. In my

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mind it was maybe mansie six six and a half

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foot tall, but it had more stop shoulders, and I

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could tell immediately what I was looking at was not

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a person. I think we all could, but we couldn't

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tell what we were doing. Other of us had a

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frame of reference. I remember the light tracking up and

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seeing feet like hair and going up and when we

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saw the face. I'll never forget to the day I die.

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And this is what peoplet said this before. You can't

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fake at that time. There's no way that you could

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think thee like this. It's just no way. I show

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the lip pull up. I saw the eye twits. I mean,

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I saw the face, and I saw the mouth, and

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I saw the teeth. And about that time one of

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my friends that had said that what do you do?

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Was the last word that had been spoken. We're all

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looking at this. None of us had a set a

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word at this point, but by the time the light

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had tracked up to the face and we all caught

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what we were looking at, and it was looking at us,

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and it's lip turned up almost like a sneer. It

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wasn't an aggressor. To this day, I don't think it

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was a threatening thing. I think it just for whatever reason,

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when we all saw that, one of us ran and

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we all did, it was like a light switch went on.

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We didn't know what we were seeing, but when we

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saw that, we were certain that it wasn't one of

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the other troopers messing with us. It wasn't anything that

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we were supposed to be seeing. It was something something

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completely different. So this happens. We all run, and I kid,

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you run. I don't like running a box that wrestled

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on jiu jitsu. I'll do roadwork, but I never liked it.

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Never was very fast. There was always a fighter, not

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a runner. I ran so fast that and I have

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never ran that in my life. I had tears streaking

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down my face. I was terrified. I was just not

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wanting My terror was being left behind and not wanting

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to be the last one. And that was my fear.

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That's why I was more afraid of that fear than

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whatever that thing was. I just didn't want to be

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the last one. I didn't want to be the last one.

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I just didn't. So we ran so fast. I ran

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into the camp and we have these old style tents.

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There's campsite, there's a latrine, that's built. It's of wood,

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but most of the tents are canvas style, a frame

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tents on a raised platform in case.

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tent two scouts to each tent. But those old tents

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have guidelines that run down each side and stak down

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to the ground to keep them steady and heavy raine

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and winds and storms. I hit one of those guidelines,

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running so fast that I rolled a good twenty feet

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and I hit a picnic table so hard to knock

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the air out of me. I came up just spitting crying.

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We were so afraid this is I could have my

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friends corroborate this is we had. We were so terrified.

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Junior came out wondering what was going on. Now, I'm

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a fourteen year old. I was terrified. I was terrified

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along with everybody else, and there was a sense of

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shared panic. Everybody else that had seen it was terrified.

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We wanted to go home, and Junior, being a little slow,

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not knowing what's going on, I think that he didn't

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understand the gravity of our situation. But when the younger

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scouts had heard what was going on. They looked up

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to some of the older scouts who we were and

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they didn't want to stay. So we had this big

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hubub now. So finally we talked to Junior. We pretty

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much the older scouts said, Junior, if you don't go

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right now and get Dick Standfield, we're going to do

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something bad. Like we were that upset like this. There

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were kids crying. They wanted to go to their moms,

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like they did not want to be there anymore. We

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didn't want them there because what we saw we thought

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was dangerous. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that

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we thought that it was an escaped animal or some

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time or something. We didn't know what to think. I remember,

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I'm a fourteen year old kid. I grew up in

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a family of people that have worked with animals. I've

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been around chyms, I've been around orangutans. But realis in everything,

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and what I had seen was not one of those.

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There wasn't a person in a suit. I knew that

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right away, but I was also rebelling against what I

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had seen. So when they were asking me what was it,

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We're all trying to figure out We didn't know. We

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didn't know, we didn't know. Somebody said a wier wolf,

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somebody said tigfoot. Another person said they didn't know. It

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looked like a monster. We were just freaking out. But

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here's where it gets even more interesting. If it camped already,

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and it really is an interesting story. But after we

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get some of the parents that come and the pick

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up their kids, and my folks come all the way

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from Naples is where I lived, and this is a

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good forty five minutes. By the time they had gotten out,

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they had airboats and swamp buggies in the camp. In

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the camp in the lake where we were. We can

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all remember distinctly hearing it. There were helicopters. I'm not

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even exaggerating. Swamp buggies are. People that aren't from Florida

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don't know what swamp buggies are. They're great, big vehicles

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that are raised up on pretty much tractor tires and

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they just mow through everything. They can just go right

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through the water, they can go right through the mud,

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they go right over the small trees and everything. Then

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you have airboats that float on top of the water,

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and then of course helicopters. So we were told people

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from Florida fishing game came the scout the people that

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were head of the scout camp came and we're talking

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with us and explaining what happened.

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There's the Octagon. It's a sanctuary right near It's still

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there to this day. The Octagon Sanctuary is still there

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and they take in. At that time, they had.

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Animals from the circus.

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They had a rangutang. They had a few other animals,

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a couple of tigers. Tigers are rescue, they don't have teeth,

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they get old, the reail them. So they told us

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that night that it was nothing more than an escape

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a rangutang from the Octagon. The Octagon said they never

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had an escaped animal. I worked with a five o'

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one C three if you follow them any of my page.

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I need to work with tigers and lions, and I

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work with a lot of five o one s threes

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that work with those animals. And still as a fourteen

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year old, I had just started working at Jim Larry's.

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I didn't know anything about a lot of bad end

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of it, but I assured them that what I had

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seen was no in rangutang. It was not in Orangutang.

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But I can tell you this, years and years later,

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I saw the closest representation of what I saw that night,

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and I'll tell you what that is in a moment.

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But we had them out there most of the night.

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We ended going home. They said there was nothing more

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than an escaped animal. Bladid bloody do. That was what

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happened there. The octagon had all other animals accounted for.

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We went back to life as normally, and I was

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never able to get that out of my mind. Now,

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my uncle was George Shaller, and he's a primatologist, and

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I remember my father talking with him, and he's worked

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with Diane Fosse. He really knows his stuff. So he

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being a scientist of some note, he's already been in

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Bigfoot research. Which is funny when George when he talked

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about Bigfoot, and to this day he's ninety three years

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old and every once in a while they'll talk about Bigfoot.

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He turned the Bigfoot world upside down when he did

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not come out and say he didn't believe in Bigfoot.

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In fact, he said the exact opposite, he said, and

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he used to say that all the time. He said

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that that Bigfoot and the science are Bigfoot, and the

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study of Bigfoot cannot be so easily denied. And that's

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something that I took with me. And when I had

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talked with my father about what we had seen, my

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father never denied, never said that that it couldn't be,

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never said it had to be somebody in a suit.

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He said the same thing that my uncle said, how

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do you know that it wasn't a Bigfoot? And I

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don't And that started me. It's like this journey now.

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Growing up, I've always been very open minded because of

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my family. I had a beasti as a child that

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had unicorns and dragons right next to.

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Hyena and lions.

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So I've always been very open minded, but I was

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a scientific skeptic. Unless I could really prove it beyond

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a shadow of doubt, I didn't really believe in it.

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And as far as Bigfoot, at the time, I would

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have said that I did not believe whatsoever in Bigfoot.

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But what happened that night is I started to peel

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away all the other things. What I was left with

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was this enigma. I had no idea what I'd seen

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that night. Now, I went to school for environmental science

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after this Revard College, and I went on to school

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for zoology at unc Asheville, and I still had no.

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Answers big for a society, who will be right back

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after these messages.

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It wasn't until I was in the field of study,

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and I was working at the time with my own

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company doing habitat surveying, that I got an answer and

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a picture that came across my desk, and it was

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of the Mayaca Skunky.

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And I'll never forget seeing.

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That photo and people everybody's saying it and everybody's saying

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it's a hoax. But I saw that and it freaked

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me out. Now, one thing that has bothered me about

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the photo and about my own recollection to this day

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is I can't remember. Sometimes I believe I saw eyeshine

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and other times I don't. That's the one thing that

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I and I talked with the others too, when we were

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showing the light, did you see eyeshine? And part of

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me and I don't know if that I have a

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very good memory, but I can't. I can't quite remember.

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Part of me thinks that I did, and part of

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me is not so sure, which is really weird. I

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do remember on the Maaca Skunkcake seeing some eyeshine and

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thinking to myself, I don't remember, and I don't know

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if the photograph of the Maaca Skuncake has bled him

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to my own experience or not, but what I've seen

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there that night and then later much later, when my

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friend said, hey, do you remember us talked joking about

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the fart smell? And it was like, I do remember that,

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and I didn't. I would never have known that was

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something that came with Bigfoot, with smell or anything like that.

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But I do remember that smell and I can remember

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it distinctly now. It wasn't so much a fart smell.

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It was a pungent, like a goaty, almost like a

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very strong bio like you know, a you're in Europe

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at a disney and nobody's washed type of a smell,

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you know what I mean? It was It was pungent,

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But I do remember now when we talk about it

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some of my friends, he bought that up. He said,

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you remember that, and I do, and I do remember

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it now. But so that was what started it all

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for me. That was the experience that kind of began everything.

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To this day, I believe what I saw and I

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do believe what I saw was a primate.

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I believe that it was.

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Some people call them napes, And I'm just as comfortable

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with North American and ape at this point as Skuntcaper

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because what I saw, I firmly believed was that it

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was a real, flesh and blood animal, and I also

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believe that it's a very real animal that needs conservation.

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I actually, that's how strongly I believe that they're out there.

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And I could go in through dozens and dozens of

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reasons why I believe they're out there to this day,

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but I do believe at this very moment that there

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is a population. He's here toofore are discovered primates or

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previously discovered but not adequately so, that are living in

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Seminole County, different places in Florida. And I even to

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myself sometimes when I say that where I feel some

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days I have more doubt than I have faith. But

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I do believe that, and I believe that in many

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ways we could prove that at least enough show that

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we should offer designation for these animals now, preemptively before

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we lose them.

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I do believe that I believe they're out there.

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That's incredible. I can already tell it. It really affected

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you as a fourteen year old.

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Oh yeah, still goes.

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Sinking back to what you saw that night, and you

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said the lips were like they were pulled up a

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little bit. Were you able to see what the teeth

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looked like?

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Oh yeah, they were like chicklets. They were wide and

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whitish yellow. They were not clean chick lits. They were large, flat,

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shovel shaped teeth. From what I've seen, they were large.

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It looked like it had a mouthful of big, wide teeth.

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They weren't wearable teeth or anything like that. It looked

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like our teeth. And that's why I knew that it

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wasn't a mask. Even the color of the face, it

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was like a mocha. You could see what appeared to

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be wrinkles, You could see the musculature, You could see

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it a little bit of everything. Of course, people are like,

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how did you see all that in a split moment?

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If you've ever been in a situation like that, you

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tend to do that. You're adrenaline spikes and as a

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matter of fight or flight, your mind, your mind slows

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everything down for you to make decisions. It's really a

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neat phenomenon. But I asked my friend later, how long

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do you think the light was on it? And he said,

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by the time the light traveled from its feet to

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its face and we saw it smile at us. He

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said that might have been a second and a half

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to three seconds. It wasn't very long, and the light

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was shaky, but by the time it got to the face,

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it steadied there and we saw that.

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And to this day, somebody asked me.

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I did a podcast with a brother and he asked,

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He said, was it a hostile look? And at the

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time I would have said no, But I understand more

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about primatology now. I understand that when a chimpanzee smiles

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a lot different than when we smiled. I don't know

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what that look conveyed. The eyes from what I recall

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of the eyes, there was some hair over the face,

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but the eyes seemed a lot like our eyes. I

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do remember that. I don't recall. Like I said, it

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seems like I had seen eyes shine. It might have

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been as it turned for a moment, but I don't know.

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I don't know. Maybe that's from seeing those pictures later

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trying to sort it out, But that's the only thing

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that to me, and another and too, he's one of

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our other friends said that he saw. I have a

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friend named Tyle Eppler.

455
00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:04.559
That was there with this.

456
00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.440
He's passed away and he disappeared in the Everglades.

457
00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.039
Believe it or not. He disappeared in the Everglades. Sorry

458
00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:11.559
to hear that.

459
00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:14.160
And he's never been seen since. Yeah, Yeah, it's a

460
00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.640
tough one. His name's Kyle Eppler. He's he was one

461
00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.920
of my best friends and he went out there and

462
00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:23.279
never came home. But we talked about it a lot

463
00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.440
over the years, and he believed like I did.

464
00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.160
He believed that what we saw that night.

465
00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:30.079
Was an animal, a primate. He doesn't believe there was

466
00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.880
anything mythical about it. He doesn't believe it was as

467
00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.000
an alien or anything.

468
00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:35.039
Like that or a hoax.

469
00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:37.559
He believes that what we saw was an actual animal,

470
00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.359
and I have to believe that. There's nothing else I

471
00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.680
can believe. And because of that, over the years, I've

472
00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.839
developed quite a few different theories as to how something

473
00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.000
like that could be there, why it's there in the

474
00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.400
first place. I have two main theories on what the

475
00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:55.079
Skun Cape is. It's either here to Ford branch or

476
00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.680
v apes, something along the lines of pan which should

477
00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:01.839
be the chimpanzees, maybe something more along the lines of

478
00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:04.279
the orangutangs, which are a little bit separate, separate, or

479
00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.000
we have to face the fact that it could also

480
00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.480
be a Homo species, and that's something that to this

481
00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:11.920
day a lot of people really have trouble with Bigfoot

482
00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.119
research as a whole. But you know as well as

483
00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.599
I do, that there is real research being done. There's

484
00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.000
research in the genome, there's a lot of research being

485
00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:22.640
done into primates, and Bigfoot to me is a primate,

486
00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.039
and a lot of people believe the same way. Even

487
00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:25.759
in anthropology.

488
00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:26.200
There's a lot of.

489
00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.119
People with PhDs that also believe that Bigfoot could very

490
00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.960
well be an offshoot of the homeo Homo schapions. If

491
00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.759
there is another species on the branch of Homo, then

492
00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.880
it's possible. We shared space with Neanderthal, we shared space

493
00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:45.119
with many different sentient beings that were like us, that

494
00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:49.279
were not human beings. We're not Homo Shapian. We have

495
00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:52.680
a few different likely representatives that I think it's possible

496
00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.920
that this being could be. Some people believe Benisovan's but

497
00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:59.559
I don't know It's always been my theory, though real

498
00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.799
briefly with it. What I believe that they are, what

499
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.119
I believe what I saw is one of those two things.

500
00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:08.759
But when we came across the bang straight the land bridge,

501
00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:11.160
I don't believe we were alone. I don't believe we

502
00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:14.519
were alone. I believe that there was another species that

503
00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:17.920
came across the land bridge. We know that we shared space.

504
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.799
We can end your tall. We know that at one

505
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.119
time it was inconceivable to think that we slept with them,

506
00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:23.960
and we bred with them, and we had babies. We

507
00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.960
know now without a shadow of doubt that we carry

508
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.920
their unique genetic traits in some of our DNA, especially

509
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.599
Eastern European units. Could some of them are something like them,

510
00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:38.799
also taking advantage of the passage between the world. I

511
00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.720
believe shown and just like humans. I always tell people this,

512
00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.559
humans are. We're amazing. If you look at the human tree.

513
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.000
I take Africa for instance, in the same spot in

514
00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:49.799
Africa and the Congo, you're up the Bantu and the

515
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.440
Baku people. Some call them the pygmies. They don't really

516
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:55.960
like that term. But the Baku are very short people,

517
00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:59.319
sometimes four foot tall, very short, and then The Bantu

518
00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.119
who live right along alongside them are tall nilotic people

519
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:05.200
who average about six five to sixty six. Now those

520
00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.400
are two humans. They're just humans in the same spot.

521
00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:10.799
So or are we not to think that if something

522
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:12.920
else came over that it also wouldn't have benefited from

523
00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:15.759
mutation or evolution if you want to use evolution, of course,

524
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.720
it would would have evolved to take advantage of new habitat. Now,

525
00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:23.079
I believe that they came across with us, and if

526
00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.759
they did, they came across like two competing species. They

527
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.960
didn't come across their friendship. We don't do that very

528
00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.640
well with other species. We tend to outcompete other species, wolves,

529
00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:34.480
any other I could tell you all the different prey

530
00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:38.000
relationships with animals that we you know, we we didn't

531
00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:40.079
want wolves in the eastern part of the United States

532
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:40.680
who got rid of them.

533
00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.519
We didn't want mountain lions or got rid of them.

534
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:44.799
So it stands the reason that when we encountered these

535
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:47.880
beings we also were at it was an antagonistic relationship

536
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.279
with them. I'm like collenas and lions, I think so

537
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:53.319
if we came across, most likely wherever humans went, these

538
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:55.039
beings would not go or they would stay at the

539
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:58.559
periphery of us. I believe for these preachers, where do

540
00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.480
you call them bigfoot? Where do you call them gunk apes?

541
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.880
You call them NPEs North American apes. I believe one percent,

542
00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:06.680
I truly do believe this that they would have the

543
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.079
instinctual and ancestral knowledge to understand that we are the boogieman,

544
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.359
we're enemy number one. If you're a bigfoot, for your

545
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.160
sasquats or your a stun cape mother or Favii, you're

546
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.480
instilling and you're young a fear of us, not to

547
00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:21.759
go hang out with us, not to go spy on us,

548
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:23.920
not to go look for us, but to stay away

549
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.720
from us. If they smell gunpowder, to get away from it.

550
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.240
If they smell dogs or anything associated.

551
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:29.720
With humans, that get away.

552
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.279
I believe that, I truly do, and I believe that

553
00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:35.599
would be something that would be instinctual within them that

554
00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.640
would one hundred percent instincts willly.

555
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:40.839
No to do that.

556
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:42.920
And I think that they would take advantage of a

557
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.720
lot of different environments along the way. There's been a

558
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.519
lot of changes since that land bridge was open for us,

559
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.640
and we've changed. Humans have persevered with some areas we've

560
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.200
grown taller. In other areas we've grown shorter. We have

561
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:57.799
the Inuits who tend to use a short, compact body

562
00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.319
shape to conserve heat, and we have tall people like

563
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.359
Masai who are very tall and thin to shed that

564
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.720
excess heat and a lot of different reasons. But when

565
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:07.480
you get into the science, because most of the time,

566
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:11.240
the farther north you go, things get larger, do something

567
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.519
called Bergmann's law, especially mammals. These beings, if they went

568
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.200
across to a place like Alaska, stands to reason they'd

569
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:19.559
be getting bigger. In certain areas, they'd be getting bigger

570
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.319
to take advantage, and in Florida it would stand to

571
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.640
reason that they wouldn't be nearly as big. It would

572
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.359
be smaller, especially moving through different environments. Now the Everglades,

573
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.279
there's thousands upon thousands of acres that are inaccessible to

574
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:35.480
humans except for swamp buggy or airboats, and even those places,

575
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:37.519
there are places out there that nobody goes.

576
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:38.519
There's no reason to go.

577
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.279
And we call it a reverse oasis because in the

578
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.319
rainy season, the water fills up the Everglades and the

579
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.799
high ground, which what we call hummocks or hammocks of

580
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.920
land where all the trees, the scrub of the turkey,

581
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.000
of the palmetto, or the swamp cabbage. That's where all

582
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.839
the life goes, all the bears, all the Florida panthers,

583
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:55.720
all those things that are in aquatic They have to

584
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.440
have high grounds or they go to those areas, and

585
00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.880
that's where I believe that these I think that they

586
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:05.920
take advantage of hummicks. So the s gruntcaper is interesting

587
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.039
in the fact that if they are out there, they

588
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.440
developed in such a way to take advantage of a

589
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.839
marginally flooded area that they're highly aquatic. They're able to

590
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:16.160
go in and out of the water, which is not

591
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.440
something you ordinarily see with long, shaggy hair and a

592
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.640
body plan like that. But I do believe they're out there.

593
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.480
What I saw interesting. It was wet, and I forgot

594
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.960
to tell you that, but what we had seen that night,

595
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.720
it's fur was not completely dry. You could tell that

596
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.000
it had been wet. It was in the process of drying,

597
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:37.799
and it appeared like it had stuff on it. So

598
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:39.519
maybe it was duck weed or maybe it was plants

599
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.279
that they picked up. But I do believe that whatever

600
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.559
it was had at some point been in that lake

601
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.519
and it come out of the lake and it was

602
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.240
traveling through the palmetters, which isn't unbelievable to think there's

603
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:50.599
a lot of humans too, believe it or not.

604
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.400
There's people that hardly ever step foot on land.

605
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.400
They living in their boats in the ocean, and they

606
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.720
can dive down, and they can stay down farther than

607
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:58.839
anybody else under the water and all their breath longer,

608
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.519
and they've adapted to take advantage of that lifestyle in

609
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.640
very short orders. So I do believe they're out there,

610
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.000
and I have to because the only other answer to

611
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:09.519
me is that I'm crazy and that we're all crazy.

612
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:10.839
I don't think we're all crazy.

613
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:11.400
Creech.

614
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.480
No, there's enough evidence out there. There's enough evidence. But

615
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.960
Floyd is interesting brother with bigfoot research as a whole,

616
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:20.799
And this is something I've determined over the years of

617
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.359
doing this. There's a lot of different names for the

618
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.440
same thing or something very similar around the world. Just

619
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.200
in the United States of America. If we use Alaska alone,

620
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.039
there's probably about ten different names. And I could isolate

621
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.279
right now from the different people groups of very similar beings,

622
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.720
and that's just Alaska. But if you take the United

623
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.079
States of a whole, of the living peoples that are

624
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.000
here and they're myths and legends, you're looking at over

625
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.440
one hundred different names who are very similar. Being in

626
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.759
the United States of America. Those are from only the

627
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.160
groups that we have the names, And we have to

628
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.359
understand through the late the Middle Period, there have been

629
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.759
people here before the Native American tribes, even that we

630
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.400
don't have much history on what were their stories. They

631
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.119
were here for thousands of years, and they traded all

632
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.799
three of these areas and built these great civilizations, and

633
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:04.680
they had stories without a doubt. And that's just in

634
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:06.599
the United States. You move into Canada, you move into

635
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.039
South America, wherever you go, I don't care. If you

636
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.240
go back to some of the Babylonian texts they believed

637
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.759
in hairy giants. You go to the Ass text Guess

638
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.279
what the Ass texts believed in hairy giants. So people

639
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.559
groups that didn't have anything to do with one another,

640
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:24.920
very similar stories, different names, the similar stories, were similar beings.

641
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.680
My sad truth is these days, and it is a

642
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.799
sad truth, is that I believe that ninety nine percent

643
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:32.799
of what I get comes across my desk. I have

644
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.640
a hard time believing, I really do, but I still

645
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.519
believe that they're out there. But I have to say

646
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:42.359
that I believe that they're critically endangered, if not extinct,

647
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.119
many of them, and I don't think it's just one.

648
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.680
I believe just like also, I believe there's probably different

649
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.440
subspecies that we could almost say, such a coyote and

650
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:49.799
a wolf.

651
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:51.359
You know, they're both.

652
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.920
Canage, but they're different enough to be called a coyote

653
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.759
and a wolf, not just different size coyote or different

654
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.519
size wolf. So I believe there might have been different

655
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.400
that they've changed enough there might be a difference between

656
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.599
what we see in Florida and what we see in

657
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.960
the western part of the country or in Alaska, that

658
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.119
they would be considered different species rather than the subspecies

659
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:11.559
are the same.

660
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:17.519
Absolutely, this trip you're taking in Florida, this expedition you're

661
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.599
going on, will this be the first time you've actively

662
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.759
gone out and tried to look for business.

663
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.880
Yeah, no, yes, and no this would be the first time.

664
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.000
I won't with any group. But I've been doing this

665
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:28.799
my whole life, and I guess I've been doing it

666
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.279
in the Lone Wolf because when I go out and

667
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.920
I've got some really interesting encounters along the way I've

668
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.599
had in North Carolina, I've had a few encounters. Even

669
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.119
my wife shared a couple of encounters. So I believe

670
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.160
I encountered something there had seen. I've never seen anything else,

671
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.680
but I've encountered some very tantalizing signs along the way.

672
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.920
I found some very interesting footprints in the ever village

673
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.839
I found had some very strange noises both in Florida,

674
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.839
North Carolina and right here in Crystal River of what

675
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.119
I believe that the locals called the blue eyed dump dumps,

676
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:58.359
which is another name for what I think are big

677
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.559
for it. But yeah, so this would be the first

678
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.319
time that I went out with a group. I've always been.

679
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.319
I'm an introvert. You know, it's weird. It's I just

680
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.720
pop up. But I'm a real introvert, So I don't

681
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.920
really do stuff like this too often. But I'm looking

682
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.400
forward to going with them, and there is going to

683
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.720
be real research. But the research that I do here

684
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.599
in Crystin River, like, for instance, when I'm done with

685
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.079
my live stange at night, I'll ride my I'm weird.

686
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.559
My whole life big for a society who will be

687
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.200
right back after these messages.

688
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.480
I've been weird. When I was three or four years old,

689
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.039
I was sneaking out of the house at three four

690
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.119
in the morning, walking around down by the river. That's

691
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.680
just what I've always done. So I spend farm. People

692
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.480
think I'm a character and that I'm all made up.

693
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.720
You can ask anybody that's ever known me. I'm weird

694
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.079
all the time, Like this is what I do. So

695
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.680
when I get up, I'll be up tonight after Live

696
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:58.400
at two o'clock in the morning, I'll take my et

697
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.160
bike and I'll go through all I can't really give

698
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:02.680
away too much of it, but I'll go through a

699
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.279
lot of spots that technically you're not really supposed to

700
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.960
state areas and parks and things. But I don't leave

701
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.640
a trace, and I go very slow, and I go

702
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:11.680
very quiet, and I'm there for the while life. I'm

703
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:13.519
a zoologist, so I love I go out and I

704
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.200
do habitat survey. I'm looking for a wild board to

705
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.519
get videos and bobcats. Like last night, I got a

706
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.079
great video of a big fat bobcat hunting. So I

707
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.119
love doing stuff like that. But when you spend so

708
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.519
much time out there. I leave room. I leave room

709
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.200
for researching a little bit of everything. I've had some

710
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:34.039
interesting experiences. Now I don't I honestly don't believe. I

711
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.240
believe that the beings that are extraordinarily curious, but I

712
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.799
also believe they're extraordinarily frightened of us, and that's their

713
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.240
prime directive is to stay away from us. Not can

714
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.000
learn from us, I can get near us. It would

715
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:46.599
be like when I see a lot of people doing

716
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.720
the tree knocking, hooting and hollar, and it'd be like

717
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.839
Michael Myers ringing a dinner bell. Are you going to

718
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.359
go to him? Or Freddy Krueger yelling for you to

719
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.920
come out when you're hiding? Would you go to Freddy Krueger? No,

720
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:00.920
you wouldn't if you know that Jason, Freddy Krueger out there.

721
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:01.720
What are you going to do? Brother?

722
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:03.160
You canna get out of there. You're gonna run. You're

723
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.039
not gonna start running right, You're gonna get in the

724
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.119
closest car, you're gonna drive, You're gonna get on the boat,

725
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.519
You're gonna get out of dodge. And I do believe

726
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:11.400
that the only way we're going to find them is

727
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.599
not we're not going to entice them to us. And

728
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.480
I stand outside with this because a lot of people

729
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.039
don't like my approach. I believe we're going to have

730
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.359
to catch them. We're gonna have to sneak up on them.

731
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.680
We're gonna have to catch and I do believe that

732
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.519
when we do get good video evidence, when we do

733
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.319
get good photographic evidence, I believe we're catching the slackers.

734
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.279
I believe we're catching the ones that have left their

735
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.680
home groups or whatever reason, their bachelor, maybe the old,

736
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.079
the affirm they've let their dog down. I believe we're

737
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.839
getting accidental accidental exposure to them. But I believe they're

738
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.680
extraordinarily frightened of us. I believe that if we are

739
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.319
in their territory, if anything, they might have some of

740
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:45.279
the adults keep an.

741
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.359
Eye on us. And that's it. So you have to

742
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:48.559
be able to be aware of that.

743
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.000
You have to understand what to look for, just like

744
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.599
anything else in the Forester's Clues. When I'm out at

745
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.000
night and I hear I know every animal out here

746
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.440
that makes noisier, I know everyone. There's not I didn't

747
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.240
set it. There's not a species of frog. I don't

748
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.079
know what it is or bird.

749
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:01.640
All right.

750
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.519
So when I am going down the road listening and

751
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.279
I hear all of them stop talking, or I hear

752
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.200
all of them start talking, they're saying something.

753
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:09.480
You just have to know what they're saying.

754
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:12.160
Every one of those animals that people think animals are dumb,

755
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.960
every one of those birds has a dozen different calls

756
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.920
for different critters they have to worry about. You know

757
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.799
that if they see a snake coming through the trees,

758
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:21.480
they've got a call for a snake. If it's an owl,

759
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.440
they got a call for an owl. When they call

760
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.680
out the birds, No, the snake's going to be on

761
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.359
the ground, look for something on the ground. If they

762
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:28.720
know it's an owl or a bird of prey and

763
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.519
they hear that bird call, they're looking up. They understand.

764
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:33.880
So I listened to rose clues at night. That's the

765
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:35.839
only way I'm going to get up on them is

766
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.319
I listened to all those clues. I take advantage of that,

767
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.240
and I've had some interesting experience out there. Although I've

768
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.839
never got anything I'm thrilled yet. I've had experiences where

769
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.839
I believe one hundred percent that they've seen me, and

770
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.079
it's not a matter of them sensing that I'm good,

771
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.039
I'm not going to harm them or anything like that.

772
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:55.440
It's I'm a threat to them. I'm a predator threat

773
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.079
number one to them, just like you are, just like

774
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.559
everybody else is. We're a threat to their very existence,

775
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.000
and to say that we're not is to not really

776
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.720
understand humanity as a whole. We are a threat to

777
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.559
them by our very nature. So they understand that. I

778
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.639
don't think they're coming when we're knocked on trees. I

779
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:12.559
think there's anything that might alert them to get out

780
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:14.559
of the area. So that's not something I do. That's

781
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.840
not something I subscribe to. It's not saying that I

782
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.639
don't believe that some people each to his own. But

783
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.519
I've been at this since I was fourteen years old.

784
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.880
I've studied from others, and I've learned from others, and

785
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.599
I've seen a lot of what doesn't work. So I'm

786
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.599
going to stick with doing what I'm doing. Maybe it'll work,

787
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.760
Maybe it'll work. But I've also isolated I so good scientists,

788
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.920
a good friend that I've befriended in college, that isolated

789
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.239
areas in the world, in the United States of America

790
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.119
that don't have human interference there's an entire field of

791
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.360
study devoted to that, and there's only about twelve or

792
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.920
thirteen unique areas in the world that aren't contaminated by

793
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.000
human expersion. You can't hear playing on the overhead, places

794
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.880
like the deep Ocean Ariatas Trench, But there are a

795
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:58.679
few places on land, on Terra Firma, they had very

796
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.920
little human encroachment, and those are the places that I

797
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.280
would like to focus on. And I've been saying for

798
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.159
years with the advent of environmental DNA, our greatest asht

799
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:09.920
right now, we have it, and we're not using it

800
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.119
for the field of study of research a big thing, and.

801
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:14.840
That is environmental DNA sampling.

802
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.880
We have an idea of what's not out there now,

803
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.679
but there's still something turning up.

804
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.360
That we don't know what it is, so we have

805
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:24.000
to figure it out.

806
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:25.480
But I do believe that in the case of the

807
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.159
gun Taper, I believe there's a few places on the

808
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.960
planet that would be most likely to find a Harry Homett.

809
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:32.639
I guess that would be a good term for them,

810
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.920
and I think that the Everglades is one of those places.

811
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.760
Tolwarida is one of those places. It has everything an

812
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.280
animal like that would need. And most Floridians they have

813
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:43.840
a struggle with this because I live in for it.

814
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.199
There's no way, there's too many people. It's a funny

815
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.840
thing about Florida. Most people that have lived here their

816
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.000
whole life have never seen real Florida, you know what

817
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:51.360
I mean.

818
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:52.440
They've never had a boat.

819
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.039
They've never they might have had a paddleboard out in

820
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:55.400
the ocean, but they've never been out in the part

821
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:55.960
of the Everglades.

822
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.320
They've never been out in the interior hunting wildcats or anything.

823
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.000
They don't know what's out there.

824
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.159
I don't know that the gigantic tracks of lamb They

825
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.880
don't understand the mystery the other Glades travel through the

826
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.920
ten thousand Islands, how difficult it can be. We're just

827
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:11.280
now starting to see that. It's absolutely amazing out there.

828
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:13.800
So I do believe something like that could take advantage

829
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.920
of the Everglades ecosystem and thrive and still remain undetected,

830
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.719
barely detected. It's intelligent. I always tell people that too,

831
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.519
because I get the number one thing I get from

832
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.239
focus is where are their bodies?

833
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.000
Why are we finding them? Why don't we have them?

834
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:27.360
And I'm a hunter.

835
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:28.800
I'm out there all the time. Why am I not

836
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.639
seeing them? And I always tease people, but I'm one

837
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.000
hundred percent serious when I say this. Like most hunters,

838
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.119
they get up and they go out to the tree stand.

839
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.039
It makes so much noise get between their truck and

840
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.280
that tree stand, and everything out there knows they're already

841
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:41.880
out there. They're just getting the ones that are dumb

842
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.320
enough to still cut and pick up the corner coyotes.

843
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:46.719
Here you're going out to the tree stand. But these

844
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.719
things are very intelligent. I honestly, Jerema, I believe that

845
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.039
as intelligent as us, but a different type of intelligence.

846
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.119
I do believe that there's a lot of animals that

847
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.119
I would put out there that have extraordinary intelligence. But

848
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.679
we judge intelligence based upon our own which is a

849
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.599
very flawed way of intelligence, because we've been around for

850
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:07.760
the blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking, and sharks who

851
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.119
have small brains, navigators who have small brains now very intelligent.

852
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.239
They say they've been around through six major extinction events.

853
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.159
So I believe these animals are big brain, but I

854
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.599
also believe they're instincttionally big brain. I think that they're

855
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.639
smarter than us in some capacity, an enormous capacity for

856
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:23.800
understanding their environment.

857
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:29.920
There's definitely instances where you can see some seriously intelligent

858
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.000
things going on. For example, in southeast Oklahoma, there's been

859
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:39.320
places where they've found like nutcracking stations in the Washata

860
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.920
National Forest. An individual I talked to has talked to

861
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:48.119
me about potential precursors of language that have been captured

862
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.920
in different audio recordings out in the Pacific Northwest, which

863
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.960
to me is just fast, Yes, you know what I'm

864
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.199
talking about, Like they're close to what the orangutans were

865
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.280
recorded do it on German zoos.

866
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:03.199
That's their natural language.

867
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.400
I do believe that too, something that brings up to me,

868
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.679
and this is what I've come to conclusion over the years,

869
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.320
that we hear them all the time, we just don't

870
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.280
know it. There's a lot of animals and there's a

871
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.199
lot of myth I believe. I'm not just this isn't

872
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:16.760
just something that I'm just thinking of. It's my own

873
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.519
through a lot of Native American myths and legends about

874
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.280
some of the Harry hominids, they were mimics. So there

875
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.800
are other animals and I've studied other primates that are mimics,

876
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.159
believe it or not. I could do a video and

877
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.000
show you a video of an rangutane speaking English and

878
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.840
chimpanzee speaking Irish, Gaelic and English. So people don't know this,

879
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.719
but chimpanzees can mimic. Some can some orangutans can mimic.

880
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.880
There's an orangutanin that can speak many different words, not

881
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.199
just one. And I could prove it too. I can

882
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:48.480
actually show videos of chimpanzee mimicking mah Ma speaking. We

883
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.320
know that great apes are able to do it. We

884
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.519
know that some other animals like seals, are able to

885
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.079
mimic human speech, and it sounds crazy when they do,

886
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.880
but they do, so why not a Harry homonid like

887
00:38:57.880 --> 00:38:59.960
big fish? So I do believe that they're able to mimic.

888
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.280
I do believe that they have some form of vocalization.

889
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.199
What I mean is this, I've been out in the woods,

890
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:05.679
and I told you I alluded to some of those

891
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.039
encounters I've had over the years.

892
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:08.800
Many of those encounters that I've.

893
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.079
Had with what I believed they're Harry hominids did not

894
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.239
sound like a Harry hominid. This sounded like something else.

895
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:15.599
So I believe that's one of the ways that they

896
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.320
interact when people are around. I don't believe that. I

897
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.400
believe that they use other night animal noisies. And I

898
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.360
know that sounds like almost a cop out, like easy

899
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.800
belief ism, but I could have my wife come out

900
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.079
and share this with you too. I've heard animals that

901
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.400
you don't ordinarily hear during the day. I've heard at night.

902
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.360
I've heard some dead giveaways. I've heard and you can

903
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.920
always tell the difference between when one of their vocalizations

904
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.639
it doesn't sound right, it sounds off. So, for instance,

905
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.559
if it's a mockingbird, if it's a call that you

906
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:42.559
might hear a mockingbird make, it's going to sound deeper,

907
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.320
it's going to sound betteral it's going to shound off.

908
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.480
If you hear something that you might hear a duck

909
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.679
or an owl make, it's going to sound different. It's

910
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:50.960
going to sound off. It's going to sound weird or

911
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.480
a heady howl. They can do a few different vocalizations,

912
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.119
and I've heard these, and it's something that I believe

913
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:58.119
that he's part of their natural language. I think that's

914
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.960
how they communicate. I think they can unicate by mimicking.

915
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.760
Just we have some birds, cuckoos, blue jays, mocking birds.

916
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.320
They all mimic other birds for reasons. And I believe

917
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.119
that these beings mimic everything out there, every other animal

918
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.000
they share space with, even some noises that they might hear.

919
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.400
I believe that's why we hear tree nots, where we

920
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:18.320
hear things like that. I think that they're demonstrative language,

921
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:19.760
and I believe that there's a reason for that.

922
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:20.159
A lot of.

923
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.679
Chimps, a lot of hes use demonstrative language. We see

924
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.159
that with chimpanzees and grillers all the time, chess cupping.

925
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:28.079
We see that with noise making, with rattling of branches,

926
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.000
with banging of trees on the ground. There's a reason

927
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.519
for noise making. It's language. It's what chimps used to

928
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.000
communicate to another chimp something, we don't want you in

929
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.719
a territory, this is my woman. Whatever it is, they

930
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.559
use that to communicate. And I believe that Sashquat's big

931
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.079
foot Harry Haman is. I believe they also use demonstrative

932
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:48.239
language like knocking, rattling, but also mimicking. And I've heard

933
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.119
so many times out there. I've had this and it's

934
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.000
not oh Man. Right where I'm at right now, I'm

935
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:57.719
in Crystal River, Florida, and there is a huge This

936
00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.360
is an area that's had a lot of side in it.

937
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.400
Right where I'm at the park that I'm in right now,

938
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.079
at Rock Crushing, They've got a lot of settings. And

939
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.400
I've had some strange experiences even here at night, and

940
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.800
I go looking for them, of course, but I've had

941
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.320
some strange experiences at night. I've heard things that so

942
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.519
I heard a cat and this is a really strange one,

943
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.840
a house cat from a cave, and I wasn't foolish

944
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.039
enough to go in and look. But the area where

945
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:22.280
I can tell you, if we had a lot much

946
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:23.760
more time, I'd tell you some of the stories that

947
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.719
the Blue I dump thumps here. But supposedly a Blue

948
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.599
I dump thump or a bigfoot was shot here in

949
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.400
nineteen seventy two, and in the caves at the Rock Crusher.

950
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:34.119
It's an old mine.

951
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.159
So knowing that and reading the research and getting the

952
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.320
old reports and talking with people, that's been an area

953
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.159
that I've been poking around and ever since. And it's

954
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:45.079
an ideal place. It's extraordinarily inaccessible, it's private, property, so

955
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:48.360
it's inaccessible, and there's a lot of caves, there's old quarries.

956
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:53.079
It's just really hard to transverse back there. And I

957
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.400
was back there one evening and walking around. It was

958
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.960
probably three in the morning, and I had a really

959
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.199
good headlamp, but I was walking and there's an old

960
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.559
I wanted to go down to the old caves, but

961
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.280
the steps were all beat up and all broken, so

962
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.480
I didn't want to go down there. I found another spot,

963
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:11.559
trying to explain the best I can, but there's like

964
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:15.639
an amphitheater, a stage, and then above it there's all

965
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.840
these rock ledgers where the caves are. And I was

966
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.400
making my way up there and I hear a cat.

967
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.599
And it's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of my life,

968
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.840
because I knew that it was supposed to be a cat,

969
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.800
knowing that it was not a cat, knowing and I

970
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:34.400
believe that it was either a person, either a mad person,

971
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.000
like some crazy homeless person up there like messing with me,

972
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.920
or it was something else, because it was it wasn't

973
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.679
like any cat that I'd ever heard. And I got

974
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.960
the hebgb's and I got out of there. I really did.

975
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.400
I'm not afraid to say that. I was scared of it,

976
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:48.719
and I got out of there because it did not

977
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.519
sound sounded like something trying to get me to investigate,

978
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.000
and I wasn't about to have it. I was like, nope.

979
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.800
And the funny thing was, I had heard stories like

980
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.639
that before of different places, people hearing things that they

981
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:04.760
go out and investigate, and that animal wouldn't be there.

982
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.960
So I've often wondered about that correlation. I do believe

983
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.920
that's how they communicate. I do believe that they mimic

984
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.400
a lot of different sounds. They can mimic even us

985
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.079
if we're out in here, like the Predator Creditor movies,

986
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.559
I reckon if we're talking enough. One of the stories

987
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:19.119
that I've heard here in the Rock Pressure is of

988
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.760
bigfoot mimicking human speech saying get out. And that was

989
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.199
a really creepy story. But could you imagine being out

990
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.800
there and having some tall, hairy hamet and yell at

991
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:33.079
your passible And so I do believe that I've heard

992
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.480
them before. I believe that I've heard different things. When

993
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.559
we were in North Carolina, Shelley heard this. We had

994
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.639
a piece of property with some strange things that had happened,

995
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.000
and I go out roman at night and I woke

996
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:43.360
her up at two o'clock in the morning to come

997
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.880
out and listen. We heard something banging on a tree,

998
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:47.960
and when I heard the banging on the tree, I

999
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.119
was like, no, I don't believe in tree knocking. It's

1000
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.880
like not something I wouldn't early think. But directly after that,

1001
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:56.199
we hear this low pitched honking noise and it was

1002
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.039
the strangest I've never heard another piece. I've heard maybe

1003
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.119
one other person say they've a similar sound, but it

1004
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:06.280
was like a real deep like like that over and

1005
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.519
over again. But it was the strangest, deepest It wasn't

1006
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:11.840
It was like a bullfrog on steroids. It was the

1007
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:14.320
weirdest thing. But since it came with that whatever was

1008
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.719
beating on a tree, by the time I got my

1009
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.159
wife up, she heard the tree knocking too. But she

1010
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.480
heard that and I wasn't gonna go and investigate it.

1011
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.519
I say, I'm just going to stay right there on

1012
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.000
the porch. So we listened for a while. I got

1013
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:26.599
a little bit of it on video and that was it.

1014
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.920
But I'm firmly convinced that if these beings are out

1015
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.039
there and they've learned to live alongside of us in

1016
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:35.719
such a way that it's beneath our notice for the

1017
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.880
most part, and that'd be a good way to do it.

1018
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.480
I think. No.

1019
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.039
The audio thing is, it's the weirdest thing until you

1020
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.960
experience it for yourself. Just to be scared to go

1021
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.000
just to anecdote, I'll throw in real quick. So we

1022
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.400
were out in Oregon for a while in the Willlammette

1023
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.519
National Forest this summer, and a group of us were

1024
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:57.000
there Sunday afternoon and we were just sitting in the

1025
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.400
Nilon chairs and only one person in the career heard

1026
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.079
this live. There was a recording an individuals doing on

1027
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:06.639
their phone and we got some whoops on the recording.

1028
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:08.559
No one heard it live except for the one lady.

1029
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:14.400
And then there was a very low mumbling noise and

1030
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.840
for the longest time I thought that it was me

1031
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:21.679
because it sounded like me. And I had this individual

1032
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.000
that was looking at my audio for the whoops and he's,

1033
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:30.159
you've also captured this precursor to language too, And he pointed,

1034
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:31.760
he said, look at this part, and I was like,

1035
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.559
that's me, and he's that's pretty much not possible because

1036
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.719
humans don't go that far down on the scale in

1037
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.519
this spectrograph, and I was like, oh, dear, because it

1038
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:45.440
sounds like me.

1039
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.880
That's weird. Low register, Yeah, that's weird. That's something too.

1040
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:51.760
So those whoops always have.

1041
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.599
Freaked me out. And primates are capable of a wide

1042
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.480
range of vocalizations. People don't just quite realize. And now

1043
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.360
a lot of people say that they're not able to

1044
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.159
create human speech, but the possibility exists that they will be.

1045
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.400
If you look up chimpanzee speaking, it'll blow your mind.

1046
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.679
Look up a rangutan speaking, it'll blow your mind because

1047
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.760
it's something that is outside of what we expect. But

1048
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.199
you know, those vocalizations. I do believe they're out there,

1049
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:19.519
and I wonder if, more so, if there's are warnings,

1050
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.039
or if there's a communication between bands, or what theirs

1051
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.920
would be if they are small groups. I've heard a

1052
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.440
lot of people speculate, how do they not suffer from

1053
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:32.000
inbreathing like any other other primate looking for a mate.

1054
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:35.039
They understand far more than we realize. They're not going

1055
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.559
to mate within the same family, and they're going to

1056
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.519
travel long distances to find a mate. And I do

1057
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:42.880
believe they're out there, just like any other primate, like

1058
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.840
when chimpanzees are young chimpanzee or a young orangutang or

1059
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.719
a young guerrilla. It's forced from family group because a

1060
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:51.039
bachelor and it goes. It looks for what it needs

1061
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.920
is places support, it's life, and females. Those are what

1062
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.639
it's looking for. So if we are seeing I think

1063
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.719
we're probably seeing young males out looking for a family,

1064
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.360
you know, or old as I've said before, that are dying.

1065
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:03.559
Like I see a lot of folks. There was one

1066
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:05.559
that popped up recently, and to be honest, I think

1067
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.519
this is what hurts a lot of bigfoot research is

1068
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:11.559
most of what does come to us is clearly a hoax,

1069
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:12.880
at least it is to me a lot of it

1070
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.840
when it's I think a lot of people see that.

1071
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.000
I saw one recently that I have to call and

1072
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:20.239
say that I believe it was a very hoaxy at least,

1073
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.960
and it was the Colorado want to if you remember

1074
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.000
that or not, But all the people on the train

1075
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.639
or something going through them, there's a big foot in

1076
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:30.719
the field. It just seemed to me, like, you know,

1077
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.360
that's what most people see. And that thing shared ten

1078
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.519
million times and everybody's going, come on, how are you?

1079
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:35.920
How are you?

1080
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:36.639
Guys believe this?

1081
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.800
But that's mostly what people end up seeing. What they

1082
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.039
don't see is the real research being done, you know,

1083
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.360
and there is real research like right now around pun

1084
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.400
Doc in Indonesia and Alaska right now, there's actual research

1085
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.719
being done, and people don't see that, so they believe

1086
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.400
that it's all a hoax. And a lot of folks do.

1087
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.000
I think when I talk with a lot of people,

1088
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.719
they just cannot open up the door of possibilit And

1089
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.400
to be honest, if I hadn't had the experience that

1090
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.119
I did, I'd be right there with them. I'd be

1091
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.079
right there one percent with them. But I saw something

1092
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:12.440
that I can't rationally explain. I've tried my whole life,

1093
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.800
and I do believe it out there with David Cheeley.

1094
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.800
I'm with David Cheeley on this so much show that

1095
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.800
I believe that they should be offered designation. We have

1096
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.280
to have some proof of their existence. We have to

1097
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:26.119
have something. And I've actually taught one of my best friends,

1098
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.840
his uncle, the state representative, and I've been talking with

1099
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.119
him for years about this very issue, and if we

1100
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.280
could get the problem is the problem was something like

1101
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.800
that is would the conservation kill it if we did

1102
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.800
find one, would they survive us? I don't know, but

1103
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:45.280
we have to come to a place where we have

1104
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.000
to have some solid evidence that they're there or we

1105
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.840
can't designate them as a specie. So people are trying

1106
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.159
to do that, and they've got some tantalizing evidence right now,

1107
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.199
they really do. They've got pairs, they've got a few

1108
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.920
things that they cannot definitively say belong to any known

1109
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.280
animal in Florida, to anything. There's some talk that they're

1110
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:05.000
primate and origin and they'll be able to prove that

1111
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.159
they're primating. So if they can prove that they're a

1112
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.559
primate in Florida and they can't prove what type it is,

1113
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.119
then that's another really good thing for us. That's another

1114
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.519
really good thing for us. It can't hurt us at all.

1115
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.840
I've always said if we could get a court together,

1116
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.679
and we can get a jury, and we would put

1117
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.519
it all together, we might be able to be able

1118
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.320
to prove the case, at least so enough people that

1119
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.320
they would they would offer the designations.

1120
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.199
Been such pleasure to have you on. Finally, to have

1121
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:33.079
a conversation with how can people best keep up to

1122
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.840
date with what you're doing as the Creature Preacher.

1123
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.119
We've got a lot of different irons in the fire,

1124
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.039
but I'm getting into doing what you're doing. I'm going

1125
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.199
to start our podcast here shortly enough to have you

1126
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.000
on our podcast, but we're going to be doing that

1127
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.639
at the Creature Preacher podcast, and of course we're on

1128
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.239
the Creature Preacher at most platforms from YouTube to Instagram,

1129
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.280
and I'm just getting started in some of those. But

1130
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.159
i'd love to have you guys give us a final there,

1131
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:57.840
and I have a feeling you'll be here more of me.

1132
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.440
We're going to be We're going to be a little

1133
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:01.639
bit more public of what we've been doing with Bigfooting.

1134
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.360
I've had some talk of even some invites and some

1135
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.760
of the shows to talk, so that might be interesting

1136
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.440
to do. Just never really when I started this. We

1137
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:11.039
have a show right now that we've been working on

1138
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:13.119
for years called The Creature Chronicles Exchoose You.

1139
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:14.239
It's an animal program.

1140
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.159
It's going to dove into some of these things as well,

1141
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.119
because I believe that Big Bits an animal. It'll be

1142
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:19.760
a show that has a little bit of everything from

1143
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.199
the very real conservation of Florida panthers and manite to

1144
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.000
the very real conservation of the skuncake. We'll have a

1145
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:28.119
little bit of everything on that shows, but I'm looking

1146
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.000
forward to the podcast and having you on, so I'll

1147
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:31.480
be talking with you more about that book.

1148
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.039
Absolutely. Oh that's exciting news. And yeah, we will definitely

1149
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.840
be in touch. But thanks so much for coming on, friend.

1150
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.119
Thank you for having me and I really appreciate it.

1151
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.199
Special thank you to the Creature Preacher for coming on

1152
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.800
the show. There was a twenty minute segment that I

1153
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.719
did have to cut as it went into topics not

1154
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.639
necessarily Bigfoot related, and that could really get both of

1155
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:04.079
us than potentially kicked off certain platforms. So we're in

1156
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.400
this for the long haul, guys, as you already know

1157
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.960
if you're listening, so we've got to keep things safe

1158
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:13.119
if you do want to listen to that though. The

1159
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.239
raw audio is available over on the Patreon platform, which

1160
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.000
is about the only place that I can upload it,

1161
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.159
so Patreon dot com, forward slash the Bigfoot Society. Check

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it out over there if you are interested into where

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this conversation goes. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is

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to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot

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to share their encounter and a safe and respected environment.

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But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced

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something that you just can explain, please send me an

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email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we

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can start the conversation. And I know a lot of

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you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been

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twenty years and it's time that you get this off

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your chest and then you can get some well deserved

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for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping. I

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understand what you're going through, and I appreciate.

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Every one of you listening Bigfoot Society podcasts, hosted by

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our Captain Jeremiah Byron, where it's all Bigfoot, all the time.

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Have you ever had the urge to do more?

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To be more?

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Now?

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You can by joining Bigfoot Society on the Patreon. Get

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you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

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all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list.

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These are all in Oregon, by the way, Oakridge, Dexter

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Fall Creek, to Shoot National Forest Area, Cultist Lake, Spirit Lake,

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Stubtle Lake, Mackenzie River Area, Sweet Home Area, the area

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west of Crater Lake, east of two thirty West Diamond

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Lake Highway and north of sixty two Crater Lake Highway.

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You can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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A special thank you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon

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and YouTube channel members. It's your support that helps keep

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the show going and I extremely appreciate it. If you

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want to join in the fun, you can join over

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at patreon dot com. Forward slash the Bigfoot Society. I'll

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see you there and again. Thanks for listening.