We weren't Alone in that Swamp!

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode from the Archives, I welcome

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Gabe Rossi to share his encounters from
Indiana and Georgia. You've experienced something similar,

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on with the show. All right,

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Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege
of talking to mister Gabe Rossi today from

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northern Georgia. Ran into Gabe on
Facebook a few days back and he said

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he's got some interesting stories to share
of his time out in the woods and

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things he's experienced. How's it going
tonight, Gabe? Really? Well,

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this is new for me. I've
never done anything like this before, so

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bear with me. All right,
Well, Gabe, I'll have you start

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the story where you would like to. All right, I guess you have

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a little bit of background the area
where a lot of these experiences are happening,

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which they're still happening today from what
I understand, we're in northern Indiana

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is where the majority of my experiences
took place while scouting for deer and deer

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hunting. So I guess the first
time it was me and my ex wife

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and my two kids were on a
nature trail. There's a three thousand acre

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public land close to where we lived, so we would go and we would

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walk through the nature trail, and
it's a pretty extensive nature trail, probably

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takes an hour or so to walk
through it. It's just a big loop

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and we get to the bottom.
It goes down and goes around, and

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it's really thick and dense, and
we get to the bottom, and I

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felt like something was watching me.
I just I didn't feel like we were

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alone. So I stopped and I
pulled my binoculars out and I had them

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go on and I start looking and
I can't see anything, but I still

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have this feeling. I've been in
the woods a long time, from time

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I was a kid, and I
know when something's not right, and something

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wasn't right. So I sent them
on ahead, and I stayed down there

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for a little bit, and I
kept looking around and glassing and still didn't

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see anything. So I caught back
up with them, and the feeling got

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worse and worse, and I told
my ex wife, I said, just

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go take the girls and just go. At this point, I'm freaking out.

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I hadn't seen anything. I hadn't
heard anything but the feeling. So

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we get up to the vehicle.
We get up to our car and there

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is the most horrendous smell I've ever
smelled in my life. And her and

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I looked at each other and she
says, what is that? And I

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just said, you know what that
is? And that was my first experience

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there. And I would say probably
well two thousand and eight was when I

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had my eye opener. I was
i'd set my tree stand up. I

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was when I did some scouting for
deer season, and I had set my

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tree stand up on the corner of
a creek and a swamp and I was

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out one morning and my standard is
like twenty feet in the air, and

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my ex wife was in a blind
probably fifty to seventy five yards behind me.

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I had her tucked back up and
blind and it was probably right around

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sunrise, and I hit my butt
grunt and I heard something splash on the

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other side of the swamp, and
I could hear it coming through the swamp.

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And I wasn't thinking anything else but
deer. So I can hear it.

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I can hear it coming through the
swamp, and I'm like, all

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right, So I'm I'm getting ready, and I hear it come out of

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the swamp, and I can hear
a bunch of rustling in the There's a

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real dense thicket, probably forty yards
away from me, and you can't see

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into this thicket, it's so thick. And I hit my grunt again and

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it stopped. And that's when I
heard something hit the ground and roll past

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me. And I'm like, what
the heck was that? Now? I

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just blanked, and I'm like,
all right, there's a deer in there.

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So I hit my grun again.
Sure enough, here it happened again.

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I couldn't see, but I could
hear it hit the ground and roll

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past me in the leaves. So
daybreak came and I didn't see anything else.

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Nothing else happened. It was just
calm and quiet. After that,

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there were and when I stay calm, the birds didn't wake up that morning.

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It was so eerily calm in the
woods that morning that two days later

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I went to move my stand.
I just anything to do with that area.

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I just I got out of there
as a hunter. It was so

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off putting to you that you actually
moved to a different hunting area. Oh

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absolutely, Oh yeah, wow,
yeah, because after all that happened in

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the heat of the moment, I
was like, oh, that's not a

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deer. But the next well,
later on that afternoon, I was like,

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wait a minute, you don't have
hands. Something threw something at us.

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That's when it started. Everything started
to run through my head and I

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was like, oh wow, that's
when it all started to click. And

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yeah, I moved my stand after
that. Even to this day, I

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have not gone back into that area
to this day. Have you looked to

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see if there's been sightings in that
area that you were see. That's the

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thing. When I had my sighting, when I actually had my sighting,

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when I actually saw one, it
was in that area. Okay, so

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yeah, And then there were two
years I've been down here for two years,

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so three years ago there was there
were actually two sightings in the same

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day about twenty minutes apart in that
area, and growing up in that area,

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my mom I told these stories.
But you're a kid and you're like,

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yeah, okay, whatever. You
don't really think much about it.

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But then as you get older and
unexplainable things start happening, you just I'm

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not the type of person who just
says, oh, this is what it

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is. I try to look for
what it can't be first, and then

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I go for what. I try
to think of what it could be.

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And these experiences, there's only certain
things that it could be. Northern Indiana,

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where I'm from, we don't have
bears, so if you see something

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that big, it's not a bear
because they're not there. So it's kind

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of where And as far as tree
structures, and oh, I have found

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so much up there and down here, even every down here in northern Georgia.

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My girlfriend and I we like to
hike a lot up in the mountains

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and we have found so much stuff
and it's just right on the trails.

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But when I look for this stuff, when I noticed, I don't really

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look for it, but I notice
it, and some of it could be

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human. But then you start thinking, it's like, all right, you've

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got broken branches fifteen feet off the
ground. Who's going to climb up a

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tree and break branches fifteen feet off
the ground. So when you say broken

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branches, describe that to me a
little bit. So are you seeing are

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these massive branches that are broken or
small guys or oh? Yeah, these

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are probably three four inches around and
they're just broken and just hanging there.

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Yeah, there's tree structures, tree
bends, and what I take these as

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is their markers for people to stay
on the trails. They've come I feel

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that they've come to they're not okay
with people being there, but they've accepted

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it as long as you stay on
the trail. And some of these trails,

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there was one it was I'm trying
to think. I think it was

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around the New Year's of twenty twenty
one. It was my first winter down

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here and her and I we decided
to go on a hike and it's a

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quarter mile hike. It's pretty dense
area back to a waterfall. You get

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to this waterfall, it looks like
something out of Indiana Jones. It's really

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really cool and we're we're just checking
things out and walking around and just looking

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at things and checking out the waterfall, and all of a sudden, she

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looks at me and she says,
I don't feel so good. I'm like,

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what do you mean? She says, my head hurts, I can't

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think straight. I just I feel
nauseous. I said, all right,

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we need to go because I had
a little bit of a feeling, but

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not like that. So we're not
running, but we're moving at a good

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pace out of there. And she
kept going and I stopped, and I

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heard the heaviest footfalls I have ever
heard in my life, and they were

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coming up quick behind us. So
I told her, I said, just

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go. Whatever happens is go,
just go. Don't look back, just

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go. And I grabbed the little
teak fruit and stuff with us cunner hikes.

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I grabbed an apple out of her
backpack and I threw it back behind

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me, and we just took off
and I we went about another fifteen twenty

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yards and I stopped, and everything, the footfalls had stopped, and everything

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was quiet. So I don't know
if it took the apple as an offering

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or what. But and the further
we got away from that waterfall area,

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the better she started feeling. I
don't know, take that for what it

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is, but I know what it
was. Sounds like you could almost have

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been dealing with an infrasound type situation. Who knows. Yeah, yeah,

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she's pretty in tune with that kind
of stuff, and it's that was the

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first time that happened, and it's
happened a couple of times since, but

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not to that extent. So there
was another hike we were on. We

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were going to hike to a waterfall
and the trail just just disappeared. We're

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hiking, we're looking for trail markers
and it's just gone. We're hiking right

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next to a river creek and we're
like, you know what, this looks

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like a good place to stop.
I usually take a cigar and I'll light

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up a cigar and I'll sit sit
there and smoke cigar and just chill,

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and she'll go walk around in the
water in the creek and do her thing,

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and we just enjoy nature. She
was on the other side of the

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creek and this kind of give me
chills. But I'm sitting there and I

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hear this low, low guttural grumble, like a growl. And the funny

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thing was, she's on the other
side of the creek, and this is

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where it came from, and it's
real thick, and my mom goes straight

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up on the other side, and
she stopped what she was doing, and

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she looked at me from across the
creek, and we looked at each other

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and we're like just staring at each
other for a few seconds, and then

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we heard it again, and she
just stopped and she just sat there for

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a second. Then the I don't
I don't know how you want to put

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it. I think it was cool. But we heard two of them chattering

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back and forth to each other,
real soft, real low. And she

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said she could hear him in her
head, but you couldn't make out what

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they were saying. Can you describe
if it sounded like anything similar at all?

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Any description of what that language sounded
like. It was just chatter,

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almost like a deep squirrel chatter.
Almost. Does that make sense? I

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don't know how else to describe it. It wasn't. You could hear the

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voices change and fluctuate, but you
couldn't make out any words. Gabe,

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have you ever heard the cra sounds? Yes, and it sounded nothing like

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that. Okay, I didn't want
to put it into this story, but

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I wanted to bring it in just
as was it like that or was it

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not? Okay, so it wasn't
like that at all. Interesting. No,

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Her and I both feel that it
may have been a couple of juveniles

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that were just checking us out and
trying to figure out what we were doing

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there, because we weren't causing any
problems. We weren't doing anything goofy.

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They were just trying. They were
just feeling us out. Is how we

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feel about it. Now, is
this situation here? Is this in Georgia

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or is it in Indiana? Yeah, this was in Georgia. Okay.

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Have there been many sightings in that
area that you were in? Yes,

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yeah, it was. That's up. I don't really want to give the

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area because but because I don't know, I just want to leave my alone

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and do their thing. If I
say where it was, and the potentially

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everybody could go up there, oh
yeah, that's no problem. I respect

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you for that. You don't want
to. We don't want to mess with

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them for sure, and keep them
safe in their habitat. Yeah. And

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then I had an Indiana. I
had my first sighting that was that was

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crazy. I was doing some scouting
and I had a golf cart, and

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I was going all these That three
thousand acres that I hunted was their roads

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going down going through it, and
there's fire lanes. The park rangers that

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cut fire lanes to the CRP grass
every fifty yards or so, and they'd

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go from the road all the way
to the wood line and then they would

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go around just basically to make it
so people can get to where they need

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to go and so they can get
in and they can checked for fallen trees

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and stuff like that. Basically access
roads. But they stay out of there

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unless they absolutely have to go in
there. But I was looking. I

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was going down the main drag and
I looked to my left down one of

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the fire lanes like I always did, I was always looking for deer and

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I it was about one hundred yards
away, and it was massive. It

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was at least seven and a half
feet tall at the shoulders and it was

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about two and a half to three
feet thickness of the chest because it was

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walking across the fire lane. As
I went by, we were going the

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same way and I hit the brakes, I backed up and it was gone.

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But like I said before, there's
no bears in Indiana. So something

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that big, it's not a bear. And that was the same area that

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they had a couple just a couple
of years ago. They had two reportings

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in the same day and it was
brown. It was a dark reddish brown

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color. It was getting close to
dark. It was still plenty of daylight,

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but it was the sun was starting
to set. But yeah, that's

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when I had my first sighting.
Did you notice anything about it its headed

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all or its face or is it
just a very quick sighting? Was it

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a very quick The fire lanes are
only ten feet wide, so it was

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probably two strides step and then step
and it was gone. But like I

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said, something that big can only
be one thing in our area because we

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don't have any bears. Do you
remember anything about how it was holding its

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arms when it was crossing? It
was its right arm was back and I

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could make out some of the fur
on the side. It's pretty long hair.

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Yeah, wow, male or female? Any indication on that. I

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have no idea how well I know
it was big and here and this is

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some people are gonna think I'm crazy
for this, But the area that I

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lived was probably a mile and a
half from all this, and there was

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a swamp that was connected to it, and my ex wife at the time,

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she was very skeptical. And it
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she was out on the porch and
she comes back inside and she says,

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you need to come out here and
listen to this. And I'm like,

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all right, So I go outside
and I could hear screams. There were

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screams coming from the swamp, and
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And shortly after I had that sighting, I was sitting in my living

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room and about ten feet up the
wall on the outside, I heard wamn,

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something hit hit the side of my
house. This happened two different times,

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at about two point thirty three o'clock
in the morning, when I was

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sitting up watching TV now ten ten
feet off the ground, and it just

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I don't know. I personally think
that after that they knew I saw it,

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and they were letting me know that
they knew. That's what I think,

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but I don't know. That freaked
me out. How did that make

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you feel to know that you see
the guy in the swamp, the big

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in the swamp, and you live
a mile away from that. How did

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that make you feel as a homeowner. No, it didn't bother me.

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I'm guns all right, mule of
teeth, So I mean, I'll protect

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myself and need be, but a
right eye opening, to say the least.

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Was that the same after it hit
the side of your house with that

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big boulder or anything like that,
he still felt the same way. It

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was his hand, I think it
was. It was just a slap on

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the side of the house, just
just letting me know it happened. It

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happened twice. That's even wilder gay
because they could have been outside listening and

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then all of a sudden they're like, all right, it's time to give

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him the warning and just lam slap. Yeah, is that why you left

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that area? No, we won't
get here because I don't feel like you

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have to get into why. But
I was just curious if they were related.

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Oh no, no, But yeah, there's I've seen. I've found

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a lot, like I said,
a lot of tree structures, a lot

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of tree bends, just some crazy
things out there. Now I want to

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go back to Let's go back to
that night when your ex I believe is

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your ex wife says to come out
listen to this scream. Can you describe

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in any way what that scream was
like, if you've ever heard anything like

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it, or what it reminded you
of. It sounded like a woman,

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like a woman being tortured. It
was just a loud, high pitched scream.

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And I mean it made my skin
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after that, I we don't have
We do have bobcats, but they're not

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very prevalent. And I pulled up
a fox. The fox was close,

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but not close enough. And I've
never heard anything like it before in my

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life. So as far as that
goes, I think it could only be

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one thing because it was loud.
It was so loud. I've never heard

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anything so loud in my life.
And that's the difference, right, That's

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what I usually hear, is that
it sounded this one way. But the

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thing was is that no other creature
could make the sound that loud. It

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would need to have a huge diaphragm, a huge set of lungs behind it

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in order to do that exactly.
Yeah, And if it would have been

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a fox, it would have been
muffled because it would have been on the

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ground and in underbrush thicket. This
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Is that the only time that you
heard vocalizations around that property that main time

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with the screen? Okay, yeah, that was the only time I had

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heard that there. Yeah. And
then the chattering down here in Georgia,

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which was pretty intense. That was
crazy. That's a lot, Gabe that

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you definitely have gone through some stuff
that area with the chattering and everything in

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Georgia, because you're still down there. Do you ever go back to that

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area we're playing on it, we're
playing on going back. We haven't really

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since, yeah, because we try
to hike. When we were on these

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hikes, we look for hikes that
are out of the way. There we

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have all trails app and we'll pull
it up and if it station. You

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may encounter a lot of people on
this it's a very popular trail. We

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avoid those. We don't like them. We go to the ones to say,

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this is not a very popular trailer. You probably won't see anyone.

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And when we go on these trails, we don't see anybody, so they're

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not Some of them are pretty much
goat paths that you have to try to

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find your way through, and luckily
I have enough experience with finding game trails

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that I can, I can keep
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on some of these and some of
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Like I think I see a picture
of the handprint, they send that

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to you. I believe you did. Yes, in the footprint, we

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found a footprint. I found through
footprints, a handprint, all all kinds

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of stuff. Yeah, I'm looking
at them right now, actually, Gabe.

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And the handprint is interesting because it's
almost like something put its hand on

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top of some moss and you can
just see where it drags down and just

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rag get the moss away, and
that's going up the side of the mountain.

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She actually is it's actually her homeland. Yeah, that's my girlfriend's hand

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and she took the picture. She's
one that found it. Yeah, man,

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she said here she's I think she's
wanting to tell some of her stuff

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too. Oh she there with you. Yeah, all right, let's let's

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get her on then. All right
here she is. Hi there. My

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name is Tamarat Hi Tamar, and
there I've been. I actually gave a

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night group together in Indiana, but
I moved to Georgia in two thousand and

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one. She didn't move down to
Georgia until twenty twenty one, so I've

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been here for quite a long time. I started hiking in twenty nineteen,

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so I'm just hitting that five year
anniversary of being a hiker. I always

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hike alone. I hike by myself. I really enjoyed just being in nature,

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being out by myself, being alone. A lot of people this.

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I really don't care what people think. There's different opinions on it, but

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I do practice grounding. Other people
call it earthing or physically just take your

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shoes and your socks off and you
actually connect with the earth. I do

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that on every hike. I do
this in water. If there's water,

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I'm getting in the water. But
I've been doing this alone. Up until

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Gabe came down here. I've been
hiking alone. So I've taken him back

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to trails that I'd been on before. And it's funny because I never really

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I've heard just being in the North
Georgia area. There's the big Foot Museum

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up here, and I've heard other
sightings there's this or that. I just

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thought I haven't actually seen it with
my own eyes, so I don't believe,

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and I don't not believe, but
I just I didn't really have an

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opinion of it. There was one
particular trail that I was on and this

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is like he said, I'll use
the all trails, app I'd like to

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go where there's no other people.
I had made it all the way into

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this trail, it was about a
maybe four and a half five miles in.

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It was during the summer, made
it to the waterfall. I was

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coming on my way back and I
needed to just pretty much get off the

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trail and I had to pee.
So I looked and I'm like, Okay,

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there's a boulder right there. I'm
going to get off this trail where

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to summertime, the grass is almost
knee high. Got off the trail maybe

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ten feet behind this boulder and went
to get back up, and all of

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a sudden, I was just afraid. I consider myself pretty fearless and brave.

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Nothing scares me. I'm not afraid
to be in the woods at night.

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I'm not afraid to be alone.
I grew up in the country in

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Indiana. I used to sleep outside. I'm not a paranoid or fearful person.

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So this particular day and it was
funny. It wasn't until a few

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years later talking to him about it. But I was just all of a

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sudden, just very disoriented. I
couldn't think straight. I was terrified.

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I was paranoid. I felt I
didn't feel like I was lost, but

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I felt like something was trying to
get me, which is it's not my

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character. I'm very clear headed.
I'm a rational thinker. I could not

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find the trail, and I knew
that there was this boulder and it was

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ten feet this way, and it
probably took me twenty minutes to get back

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on this trail, and my ears
were ringing, and I was just very

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confused, and my thoughts were foggy, and I couldn't think straight, and

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I almost felt like I was drugged. It was really a hard feeling to

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describe, and just between being confused
and being panicked at the same time.

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It just took me a very long
time to get back on the trail,

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and I just what got me there
was like go back to where you hear

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water, because I had followed I
had followed a river going in and I

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finally got back on it and just
started running and running, and I ran

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for a good mile and I finally
started getting more of a clear head on

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my way out and I was like, ah, you just got lost.

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You yet paranoid. You went into
kind of fight or flight mode. Fast

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forward a couple of years later,
I take him back to the same trailer

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and I'm like, this is the
trail that messed me up? And do

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you remember that one Warville? Yeah, I will say this is I can

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say this is pretty much A lot
of this takes place up in the chatthoochio

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Koni National Forest, which I don't
know if you know this area, but

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it spans a big part of the
North Georgia. The Appalachian Trail is part

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of it. So there's so many
areas I hike. It's just a vast

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forest system. I take him on
this trail and as soon as we get

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in there, you okay, look
at this. And I remember seeing these

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things but not thinking anything of it. When we say tree breaks and tree

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bends, we're talking trees that are
broken. You've got one side of the

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mountain going up, and you think, okay, if a storm came through

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and the wind blows, you would
think that a tree is going to fall

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towards down, towards gravity. But
they're broken in the other way, and

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some of them are twisted. They're
young trees, but they're bigger around than

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my arm or my calf, and
they're really high up, and they're bent

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and twisted almost strategically, and some
of them are bent down where are twisted

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together and form a structure. And
you're thinking, Okay, my mind automatically

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goes to how could this have naturally
happened? Could this tree have fallen?

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And knocking this tree over? And
so I always try to just ration it

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out and think, how could this
have naturally happened? And honestly, we've

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got so many pictures and video stuff
if it weren't for him coming down and

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explaining all this to me and showing
me this. Now, this is what

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I'm looking for. And I'm seeing
a lot of stuff that makes me question,

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you know, just question everything.
And I've found one of the footprints.

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I've found one of the handprints.
I've heard the noises, the story

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he was telling me about when we
were we had stopped in a creek and

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he was smoking his cigar. I
actually was in the water practicing grounding.

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It's you just I submerged myself in
water. It's almost a form of meditation.

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And I could hear those voices too, and I heard the I do

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remember him hearing. He said,
I heard the one, and it just

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sounded this low, rumbling girl.
It didn't sound like words. It didn't

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sound like I know what bears sound
like. I've seen bears. I know

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what farll hogs sound like. I
haven't seen them. I don't want to

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see them. I've seen their tracks, and then I'll turn around and go

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the other way. But I know
what all the animals of these forests look

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like and sound like. It didn't
sound like any animal I've ever heard.

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Do you feel that there were two
individuals talking to each other or did it

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sound just like just one individual?
You know there were two? Yeah,

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there were multiple ones. And it
was crazy because I'm sitting in the water

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and looking back. You think that
would make me just really freak out.

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I'm hearing this, and I was, I remember, because I was on

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a small waterfall and I was kind
of I think I was laying on my

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stomach. Was I laying on my
stomach? I was just letting the water

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flow over me. And I stopped
and I just looked at him, and

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he's looking at me, and I
could hear them, and at first I

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thought I can only hear this in
my head, and I wonder if you

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can hear this too, And he
could. And I could hear from from

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one side a chatter, and then
I would hear a voice from way on

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the other side. It was a
different voice. It sounded like the same

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form of communication. It's the same, like the same I don't want to

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use the word animal, but the
same being. But it wasn't words that

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were making out. It's just it's
just been indistinct kind of chatter. But

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the feeling that I got when I
say I could feel him in my head,

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which sounds really weird. I know
it sounds strange, but I'm just

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gonna just come out and say it. I just I felt like they were

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just I didn't feel like we were
in danger. And I told him that.

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I told Gabe that, I said, they're curious about me and what

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I'm doing because I was meditating,
I was doing grounding, and I said

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they were just they're just curious and
they seemed surprised to me. That's I

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just I felt that feeling like I
can almost pick up an emotion that I

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don't know. It was just a
really weird experience. It's nothing I'd ever

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experienced before. But it wasn't negative
like where I was afraid and disoriented and

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confused, and it wasn't like that
at all. I felt like I wasn't

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in any harm, that I wasn't
going to be harmed. I felt like

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it was okay. I just felt
like they were like I caught whoever it

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was off guard, and they were
just very curious. So but still I'm

408
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.639
like, you know what, I'm
going to get out of the water and

409
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.039
get dried off and just keep on
hiking up going, go on ahead and

410
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.880
get on out of here. So
that was that was one experience, and

411
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:52.559
it was really interesting. It wasn't
a negative one. But yeah, that

412
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:59.880
was last fall a tam. When
you've been out hiking, have you experienced

413
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.159
heard any other type of vocalizations or
is that the main time that you actually

414
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:13.000
heard something when you were out there. This was the first vocalization that I

415
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.639
had heard. And I try to
be very quiet when I'm out and about.

416
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.679
I don't like with groups or any
of the touristy, crowded areas.

417
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.119
But I had never heard of vocalization
before, so it was actually really cool

418
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.519
to hear it, and it almost
it didn't sound human. It didn't sound

419
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.360
like a bear, It didn't sound
it almost sounded almost like a primate.

420
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.639
It's just it's so hard to describe
because it's not like anything I had ever

421
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:44.400
heard before, and it didn't sound
like it sounded like it was definitely a

422
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:53.800
language and not just a noise.
It sounded foreign language. But it's just

423
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:59.639
so hard to describe. It sounded
almost if a primate, like like a

424
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:04.840
great, we're a gorilla. We're
talking similar. That's the most similar I

425
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.440
could get. It sounded a little
more advanced, like their voice was sounds

426
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:15.559
like if they were talking, but
they were lower in tone, and they

427
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:22.840
it projected farther away, but it
was hard because you've got the water rushing,

428
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.039
and then you've got the mountain up
and everything bounces off. There's a

429
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.679
lot of rocks up in the mountains, so it's hard to tell what direction

430
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:36.599
it's coming from and how far away
it is. But it was very distinct.

431
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:42.760
That's the only time i'd actually heard
anything tended several times. If they

432
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.679
we call, they get in my
head. And so now that when we

433
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:54.679
hike, I'm like the bigfoot barometer
like it. So everyone's looking at you

434
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.320
are you hearing anything? Yeah,
I actually don't like it because it's not

435
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.079
cool knowing it. I don't know. It's when you have a good experience

436
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.599
like that, when you're getting a
calming feeling like it's okay. They're just

437
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:14.280
curious. And then the moor we
got chased, and that was weird because

438
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:19.719
I had actually got off the trail
and I was just chattering on about some

439
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.239
kind of flower that was blooming.
I think I was like, look at

440
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.920
that. And then all of a
sudden, I just felt like I was

441
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:31.639
just drugged again, and I felt
disoriented and I felt sick, and all

442
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.599
of a sudden, I'm like like
low blood sugar or something. I was

443
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.519
like, I don't feel good.
I almost I was starting to sway a

444
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.480
little bit and lose my balance and
I couldn't talk right, and I'm like,

445
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.599
I don't feel so good. And
then he, you know, got

446
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.719
a bad feeling and he's like,
we got to get out of here now.

447
00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.480
And we got out of there and
he had to drag me. And

448
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:07.280
it's crazy because it's something takes over
and you just lose your sense of direction

449
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.159
and you lose your sense of control
of logic, like you're afraid, but

450
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.760
you're a disorient and you're stunned.
But it's not a good feeling. I

451
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:22.800
don't like being the I don't like
being the Canary's I don't know if it's

452
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.679
because of all the grounding that I
practice and trying to be as connected to

453
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:32.679
the earth as possible. Environmental hippie
girl. So I'm I tried to stay

454
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:38.280
very connected to mother Earth. Nothing
wrong with that, for sure. Yeah,

455
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.920
that's who I am. But there
was another There was a third time,

456
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.320
wasn't there. I don't know.
We've been on so many hikes.

457
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:51.440
It's kayaking on the kayak trip.
Oh well, yeah, I forgot about

458
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.280
that one. Do you want to
hear about the kayak? I would love

459
00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:00.880
to hear whatever you guys have to
share, So go right ahead. Yeah,

460
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.880
this one was last summer. Okay, we were kayaking and uh,

461
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.159
we come up to this beach and
she decided she wanted to get out and

462
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:12.840
she wanted to swim a little bit
in the river. Now it was in

463
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.760
the creek, it's the river,
so she's on the other side of the

464
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:21.679
river. Yeah, and she's swimming, just chilling, just just swimming,

465
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.119
thinking around whatever. And I'm sitting
on the other side of the bank on

466
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:31.320
the beach, just going and watching
her, and she starts getting this weird

467
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:37.119
feeling and I look up and I
see one pull its head back, not

468
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.199
in the it was just like you
see a tree and you see a lump

469
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.079
move. That was it like a
pikaboo type thing. And then that's when

470
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:52.960
she started feeling her feeling that she
gets. And needless to say, after

471
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.760
that that she shot back across the
river and we kept on going. Like

472
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.639
I said, I'm I kayak a
lot too. I do a lot of

473
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.960
for cleanups. I'm where I'm pulling
tires out of the rivers, I'm jumping

474
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.760
in and out. I am not
afraid to be in these rivers up in

475
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.360
the mountains, I'm not. I'm
always in them. And in this particular

476
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.400
river, I was like walking up
the edge of the banks as far as

477
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.199
I could, and then I'd jump
in and just float down and swim and

478
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.159
let the current kind of take me. And I'd go swim past him and

479
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.199
I'd be like, hey, come
on coming and swim and he just wasn't

480
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.440
in the swim. And I'm not
afraid to be in the water at all.

481
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:36.679
So I got I was getting close
to the banks, and all of

482
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.920
a sudden, I was just afraid
to be in the water, and I'm

483
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.719
like, I gotta get the hell
out of here. And kind of simultaneously

484
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.559
he's looking at me like we gotta
go, come on, and he's waving

485
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.800
at me and he's get out of
there, come on, we gotta go.

486
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.800
And I'm like, yeah, I'm
on it, and I start swimming

487
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.480
against the current as fast as I
can, and I just all of a

488
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:04.599
sudden felt like something was wrong,
that same feeling that I got when I

489
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.920
was on that hike by myself,
that just something was wrong, and I

490
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:13.760
was dis oriented again and I shouldn't
have been there, and I just I

491
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:19.079
was afraid, and that's not like
me. And I think in that case,

492
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.559
you just got too close in that
I did, because it didn't happen

493
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.159
until I got too close to that
part of the part of the banks,

494
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.360
I don't know. And let's the
Otawa River goes through a lot of parks

495
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.760
of there's some pretty dense forests that
no, there's no hiking trails in there,

496
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:43.320
no one hikes in. We were
on that part is the Dawson Forest,

497
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.920
right, there's not a lot of
hiking in Dawson Forests, and like

498
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.079
we were on that portion of the
Edawa where you can be on the Edawa,

499
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.559
but you really can't be on the
Dawson Forest side. There's no hiking.

500
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.719
They don't allow you to bank your
kayak there. They don't want you

501
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:04.079
to be on to explore there on
that side. Yeah, it was interesting

502
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.639
that I just I was fine,
just having a good old time floating around,

503
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.400
messing around, swimming, and then
all of a sudden, I'm just

504
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:17.400
terrified for no reason whatsoever. Have
there been reported sightings in that area as

505
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:27.280
well? Absolutely? OK's And I
can say this just by if you go

506
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.519
to have you been to the I
don't know, you're out, You're in

507
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.000
a different state. There's a Bigfoot
museum. And when he moved down here,

508
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.960
I took him here. And I
had been to Blue Ridge, Georgia

509
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.599
a million times and I've always passed
the Bigfitt Museum and I thought it was

510
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:47.199
just some touristy little gift shop with
nick knacks and T shirts and hats.

511
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.760
But I took him there because he
really wanted to go when he first moved

512
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.960
down here, and I was blown
away with all of the scientific evidence and

513
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.719
the documentation. But they have a
map of the state of Georgia and they

514
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:07.320
have a little pin marked of all
of the sidings and all of They've got

515
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:16.159
this really great library of where everyone
has actually had actual sightings or experiences.

516
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.760
And I'm looking at this and I'm
like, holy cow, this is where

517
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.480
I height. This is where I'm
at all the time, like all of

518
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:30.440
the heavy sightings, like around the
Appalachian Trail and the chattahoochio Cone area and

519
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.480
this whole part of North Georgia that
I that is my turf and there's all

520
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.320
these sightings there, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this whole time,

521
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.519
I've been going here all the time, by myself alone, right here

522
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:47.400
all the time. Yes, it's
a very heavily active area for sightings.

523
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:57.440
We went on this one trail and
the way I took it, they were

524
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.599
the tree brakes are almost warnings.
Don't come past this. You'll see them.

525
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.320
It's odd you'll see them on one
side of the trail prominently and not

526
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.719
the other. And I'm not sure
you're if you're a hiker, are you

527
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.559
a hiker? I used to be
a lot more than I've hiked the Appollation

528
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:20.119
Trail all of Massachusetts and Connecticut.
I grew up in New England, but

529
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:24.400
so I have a history back in
the day. Yeah, okay, you

530
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.039
know how there's one side there or
the other. Sure, So when we

531
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.119
get on, when we get on
these trails, some of them just right

532
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:37.280
off the bat As soon as you
get on these trails, one side,

533
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:44.599
which tends to be the side of
the side of where the elevation is going

534
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.679
up, there's going to be all
of the structures and the tree breaks and

535
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.840
the tree bends, and that's where
we see that. And some of them

536
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:59.639
as soon as you get on that
trails. And it's funny because these trails

537
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:04.920
aren't I love all trails because people
will complain. They'll say, I never

538
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.599
got to the waterfall. I couldn't
find it. The trails not marked,

539
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:13.280
parking lots not marked. The forest
system is not keeping up with this trail.

540
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.559
Those are the ones we go to. And I used to before I

541
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.679
met him. I used to blaze
the trails. I used to bring blazing

542
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.599
equipment. I would make sure I
got it marked, and now I would

543
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.920
go back and I would blaze it
so other hikers wouldn't get lost and now,

544
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.360
seeing what I'm seeing, I'm like, no, I'm going to leave

545
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.880
this trail alone, and I'm not
going to blaze it and make it easy

546
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.239
for other people to find. There's
the reason the forest the forestry doesn't keep

547
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.440
up with it. There's a reason. Yeah, oh absolutely, yeah.

548
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:46.360
Wow. So now I'm respecting that
and I'm I've stopped blazing the trails and

549
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.119
I'll find it and just do the
best I can to find these trails and

550
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:58.559
enjoy them. Yeah. Like for
instance, the one that she was talking

551
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:04.719
about where she had her first infrasound. When I went on this trail,

552
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:10.920
we got to this one section and
it looked like it had just been ravaged.

553
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.639
There were trees probably sixty eight inches
around, pulled up on the ground,

554
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.400
laid across the trail all the way
fifty yards for fifty yards, and

555
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:28.360
you couldn't find where these trees just
fell over. There were no stumps,

556
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.760
there was no root balls, there
was no holes where they came from.

557
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:37.159
They were picked up and put here. There's there was, Yeah, it

558
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:44.480
didn't matter. And there was tree
bends, there was twisted brakes. It

559
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:49.400
looked like it looked like a tornado
or a hurricane went through there. And

560
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:53.079
here's the thing. It was in
a valley. These trees were no order.

561
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:57.880
There was no order to it.
Like I said, you couldn't see

562
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.760
where they fell over. Because that's
the first thing I started doing, is

563
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.840
I started looking to see if these
trees just fell over, if they were

564
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.840
broken from up top and it just
fell down from a dead tree or whatever.

565
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:14.800
These weren't. These were placed here
in this area, and it went

566
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:16.960
like I said, it went on
for fifty yards. And it took us

567
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.199
thirty minutes to walk through this at
fifty yards because we had to walk over

568
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:27.719
all these trees to get through this
area. It was insane. Several years

569
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.320
ago, when I had won on
that trailer, I took pictures and I

570
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.400
had posted it on Facebook and I
said, oh, I've got an obstacle

571
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.559
course for a trail today. Remember
I took him back to it and they

572
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:45.360
were still there, and he's like, that's no. Yeah, it was

573
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:51.199
pretty intense. We didn't I think
it had been there done there, It

574
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.639
had been done a long time ago. It wasn't anything fresh, but nonetheless

575
00:47:54.679 --> 00:48:01.000
it was there. It was pretty
obvious to me. But wow that you

576
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:07.320
guys have some fascinating stories. You're
definitely in an area where things are going

577
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.000
on, and Tamra, I want
to just verify with you. You haven't

578
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:16.760
had a sighting yourself yet, correct, I have not. Okay, I

579
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.840
have a feeling one day you will, though. Yeah. I think it's

580
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:29.920
inevitable. Yeah, wow, as
much as we've that I've noticed down here,

581
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:37.519
just evidence and signs, Yeah,
it's inevitable. We were one of

582
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.880
the when I found my first track
down here, it was odd. It's

583
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:47.400
almost like it almost looked if you
there's deer tracks mixed in with tracks on

584
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:54.119
the trail, and to me,
it looked like they were hurting deer to

585
00:48:54.519 --> 00:49:01.440
a valley, because the trail kind
of went and there was like a bowl

586
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:09.960
down to the left or to the
if you're anyways, it looked like they

587
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:16.480
were running down the trail hurting deer
to one mastsive area. Because then all

588
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:21.599
of a sudden, the tracks,
the footprints stopped, and then the deer

589
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.719
tracks went right down into this bowl
and then now it's it, and you

590
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.679
could see where the lees were tore
up. You could see dirt torn up.

591
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.199
It just it looked pretty torn up. And you could see on the

592
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.360
side of the trail where it looked
like a foot was sliding down the side

593
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:43.519
of the trail about every ten feet. Not to be too descriptive, but

594
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:51.639
in that area, did you find
any bones or anything like that. Here's

595
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:57.440
the thing. When we see signs
and tree brakes and bins and stuff like

596
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.760
that, we don't venture off the
trail. I gotcha. Yeah, I'm

597
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:05.400
not gonna push my luck. We're
because the trails that we're on, we're

598
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.800
five five miles away from the road, paved road at some point. Okay,

599
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:14.559
so you're in very remote areas too. I don't want to get stuck

600
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.320
out to her. Yeah, you
put your phone up and it's there's nothing.

601
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.239
Wow. So when we see stuff
like that, we just stick to

602
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:28.119
the trail and we'll observe and look. But as far as getting off the

603
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:31.440
trail, nah, it ain't happening. I was born than nine, but

604
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:37.519
it wasn't last night. I like
that, Gabe and Tamora, this has

605
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.519
been a super fun chat. I
know it's getting late where you guys are

606
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.760
at because you're ahead of me,
but man, I feel like I might

607
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.719
be talking to you. I feel
like you guys are going to have some

608
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.719
more situations come up in the future, so I think we need to definitely

609
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.639
keep in touch. If anything else
happens, let me know, Gabe.

610
00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:00.880
Absolutely, yeah, I got plenty
more Indiana. Oh you doo, oh

611
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my goodness. Oh absolutely, you're
killing me, Gabe. We're gonna have

612
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to do We're gonna have to do
a part two someday. Man. Absolutely,

613
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yeah, it's been fun. Yeah, this has been a good time.

614
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I have a feeling people are gonna
be saying when you're gonna get,

615
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when you're gonna get Gabe and Tamar
back on. Appreciate you guys chatting with

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me tonight. Yeah. Absolutely,
I appreciate the opportunity. The way I

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see it, like I texted you
earlier, the way I see it is

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if I her and I can get
on here, we can tell our stories.

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Maybe there's somebody else out there listening
it's too afraid to tell their story.

620
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Maybe this will give them the courage
to come out. And now it

621
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feels so bad about it, Who
cares what anybody thinks. I know what

622
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I saw, I know what's out
there. That's all I care about.

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Just wanted to take a few minutes
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Her and I can get on here
and we can tell our stories.

659
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Maybe there's somebody else out there listening
that's too afraid to tell their story.

660
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Maybe this will give them the courage
to come out. And now I feel

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so bad about it. Who cares
what anybody thinks. I know what I

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saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about it From the wo