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Well, Look At You! | Pennsylvania

Well, Look At You! | Pennsylvania
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Well, Look At You! | Pennsylvania

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as we delve into an enthralling episode featuring LaVone, a passionate Bigfoot researcher. LaVone shares a series of captivating encounters, including an eerie horseback ride in Great Falls, Montana, and a plethora of sightings and experiences in Pennsylvania. Explore her notable face-to-face interactions, mysterious blue orbs, and samurai chatter, as LaVone recounts her immersive journeys into the squatchy territories. LaVon's stories are imbued with a sense of wonder and curiosity, making this episode a must-watch for any enthusiast of the unknown. Whether it's tracking through North Cambria County, gifting in isolated woods, or dealing with unnerving sensations and unexplained time loss, LaVone's adventures promise to keep you on the edge of your seat.

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0:00 Welcome to big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more big for Society to listen to every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with the show. I Bigfoot Society. We got the privilege of talking to Levon today. Levon's an individual that I was connected to.

0:47 I reached out to her just very recently actually, and a few things about Levon. She's been researching bigfoot for close to about two years now, had a few things happened along the way. She's a self published author and a new trainee with Mouffon as well. But welcome to the show, Levon. How's it going today? Hi? Thank you very much for having me today, I'm doing good. A little nervous, but I'm doing good. Awesome. Yeah, I'm excited to hear what you have experienced. Some of the I know at least one of the areas is near another area in Pennsylvania that's had some really interesting activity in it. But you know, I'm going to go ahead and make sure that you have all the time that you need to share what you've experienced.

1:38 So feel free to take us back. You know when this all first started happening for you, Levon. Okay, thanks, yeah, gosh. Nineteen seventy six, Great Falls, Montiana. I was nine years old. I am often rode horseback with a Native American that lived close to my home. She was a Native American girl, She was close. She was a little bit older than me, so, if I can remember correctly, she was at least twelve. Her father always told me that when I ride with her that I'm to always listen to her. You know that she knows the land, and when she says it's time to go home, it's time to go home, and et cetera.

2:29 While we were out riding that one day, we decided to go left down a dirt road, and mind you, our property was ten acres and it was like ten acres straight, so after ten acre straight was a home. And then there was the road and we went to the left. We don't normally go this way because the gentleman at the end of that road had dogs that he would always let loose when he'd see people walking on the road or horseback riding. For what reason, maybe he thought he owned the road, you know, I don't know. But as dogs were not out, so we decided to go ahead and go. Because we rode alongside the quarry that was too or left and a bar more fence divided that quarry and the dirt road to keep people from going, you know, down into the quarry. And as we were riding along, the horses started to get a little a little antsy, but we didn't, you know, we didn't pay no mind to it. And we come across a very bad smell, and being young girls, you know, we cover our faces, you know, and complain who, you know, that stinks, And it just smelt of what I can remember is like like a cross between skunk and dead dog, you know. And the only reason why I say dead dog is because I've smelt that before. Then we you know,

4:02 the horse still kept getting a little antsy, and we just we just kept going, you know, just still complaining of the smell. And we heard like a roar coming up from over into the quarry, and we just thought it was the Native boys. So we were yelling out, stupid boys. You know, we're not scared of you, and we just kept going. The horse was still getting a little antsy, and then a rock, probably as a child my size, I would say, like a basketball, the size of a basketball. It just kind of came up from out of nowhere and landed on next to the barboar fence, which was still on the opposite side of us, so it didn't, you know, come directly at us, but in front.

4:55 And again we're just yelling, stupid boys. My horse was behind my friend's horse, and I looked up at her. She turned to her left and she said, very firmly, we're going home. She turned her horse around and she started doing her call and took off with her horse. And my horse was much smaller than hers, so mine's just you know, did not run as fast, but I got my horse going. Her house was much further from me, so she just kept going straight. I then had to make a left down to the road. I was already you know, at the end of my property, and I just high tailed at home because she said, you know, if she doesn't stop, I'm not going to stop. I got in, I got off a horse. I you know, all I had to do was to take the rope off of her, off of her her head, and I, you know, I put her into the pasture and she was still a little kind of antsy that she was.

6:04 You know, I didn't take I didn't think nothing of it because she's a mayor and then most people that ride horses know the mayor's are you know, can be difficult. I walked into the trailer and I was alone. And as I walked in, when I looked to my left, like my perfial vision the window, my mom had sheer curtains so you could see through outside, and I just saw something like big in the field across the street. It was a freshly cut alfalfa field. And I looked out there and I'm thinking, what, you know, what is that? And then I opened up the curtains and I happened to see like what I thought at the time was a very large man in like a hooded coat or those roll long coats. He had like a round head, no neck, big shoulders, and just moving really fast but very graceful. I thought to myself, Man, I'm by myself, you know, and this thing, this person's heading towards me.

7:15 So I ducked down below the window sill and I kind of looked over about my door and I'm thinking, gosh, the door's unlocked. You know, there's rifles, you know, on Montana, there's we you know, we had rifles everywhere. Every door there was rifles. But I did not know how to use a rifle. I looked back up to see if this thing or man was still coming, and it was gone. And I kind of searched all the windows, and I'm thinking, well, this thing's gone, you know. So I just, you know, locked the doors, waited for my mom and them to come home. And at that time, I didn't know what bigfoot was, you know, I had no idea what it was.

8:02 Never would have imagined it being in Montana. That night, there were no pardon me. Three nights after that, on the news, my mom was watching the news and they were discussing bigfoot sightings in our area, and I kind of stopped to listen, and I'm thinking, no, you know, it was like nah, like no that, yeah, that can't possibly be. So I just kind of ignored it. And then the next night they sound they the news came back on and said that they found a gorilla suit outside the airport bathrooms, and so then I just topped it off as as like, oh, maybe that's what it was, you know, maybe it was just that that person doing that.

8:55 So over the years, I just kind of forgot about it. I did not forget the image or the incident, but I just left it alone until about my twenties is when I started to hear more about the characteristics of a sass squatch, like the smell, the rock throwing, you know, the roars, and I was trying to think, like, gosh, it's like did I see a squatch that day? You know, because now that I was at that time, I'm an adult, and I'm thinking there is no way an adult that large and that bulky could run as fast as this thing was running through the field and then disappeared. You know.

9:43 I've had many people tell me that, oh that you know, they can drop down and hide, and I'm thinking, gosh, this was like the you know, now that I know, it's like the third cutting of the alfalfa. So therefore that alfalfa was really short. This big thing could not have duck down into all that alfalpha and just disappear. You know, maybe it could. I don't know, But for many, many years I did not tell anybody. I told a few friends from school, some believed me, some didn't. Uh The only person I felt that I really had to tell was was my husband because we were going to get you know, we were going to get married. And I said, hey, you know what, I got to tell you this because that's really bothering me. I said, and I just want to know if you believe me or not.

10:33 And he did he says no, he goes, I believe you. He goes. He says, you you probably did see a squash that day. And that's what led me to going to a bigfoot meeting in uh Here in Pennsylvania. And I actually discussed that day and it actually actually cried talking about it because it felt so good to talk to somebody that understood and that they did not turn their nose at mephane. They did not say, oh, well, you saw a bear or you just saw, you know, some guy in a suit that they actually believed me and said that, yes, there's probably a good chance that you saw a squatch. And that's when I started to ask questions, you know, how can people become investigators? Because I never would have imagined sasquatch being here in Pennsylvania.

11:36 You know, now I'm finding out that they're you know, in a lot of states. But I started researching with a few people from researchers. I have gone on a few areas, you know, by myself. It's mostly camping, though I have roan to love tracking, so I started tracking. The actually nickname is like Lady Tracks because I love bigfoot tracking, bear tracking, coyotes. I apologize for keep saying, oh, that's my way of thinking. But the most fascinating encounter that I had was at in North Cambria County. Fascinating area, very squatchy. We were camping there and two researchers and I we went down a trail. They saw a trail that they had never covered before, so we decided we were going to go follow this trail and it went up and over the whole time that we are walking though the other female researcher and I I had just told her, I said, do you you know, I said, I know there's possibly deer and bug and birds and

13:09 everything else watching us. And I said, but I just don't feel like we're alone right now, like like we're the only ones. And she says, nope, She's like we're not. And we kept here hearing like crunching sounds, you know, much bigger than what a deer sound could make. I don't I don't believe it was bear, not saying it was a sas squatch, but it's after my encounter, it was definitely a squatch. We got to the lake and the one researcher he found two beautiful prints going into the lake, so he decided to cast one. And as we were waiting for his casting material to dry, he walked into the lake and walked around a tree that kind of fell like fell in and was overgrowing the lake a little.

14:08 Bit big for society will be right back after these messages. He had to walk around that, and he come back and he says, there are more tracks, he says, on the other side of this tree. But what reason why we decided not to go yonder and look? I honestly can't remember. I can't remember why, you know, what we decided not to do not to do that, but we were, you know, we were waiting, and I walked, I was started to walk a little bit away from the lake, and then the two researchers they walked past me and walked further up away from the lake, and I saw two like white glowing eyes. And when I say glowing, they were glowing like two little flashlights. And it was only about six o'clock in the evening, so it was cloudy, so I don't know if the light was reflecting on the eyes or what. I just kind of stopped and

15:38 I looked, and it was about ten feet away from me. And as I was looking the whites of the eyes, the glowing went black, solid black. And that's when I saw. And no one can tell me that that's not what I saw, but I literally saw all an infant squatch. And when I say infant, because I think if it were to stand up, it would only have been maybe four foot tall, so maybe a toddler. And I crunched down. And this is my character and some people, this is where some people said, you're going to get yourself killed.

16:22 But I squatted down and I was just like, well, look at you. And I'm thinking, I'm looking around, and I'm like, where's mama, because you're sitting here all by yourself and I'm just talking to this thing. I said, you're sitting here all by yourself, where's mama? And then I'm thinking, we're not gonna hurt you, you know, And I said it out loud, We're not staying long. I literally told it everything that we were doing. It sounds crazy, I know, but at that time something was going on with my with my ears. It was there was like a vibration going on in my ears, and at that time I thought it was a large helicopter going over my head. So I didn't bother looking up because I did not want to lose sight of what I was looking at. So I just stayed glued to this, to this infants squatch, still talking to it. And then eventually the other researcher, she non't wait, she did not come into my view yet. Then I saw something big come walking in. I saw its thighs and then I saw it's torso and then I could see like the chest.

17:47 So that's when I knew that's not the female. That's a male. And it only stood about six foot, so I was thinking this must be junior. And I even said, well, there's big brother, you know. And it squatted and all I could see was his eyes and his lips, and he had like thick lips, like human lips, but just thicker. The mouth was not protruding like what people would say like the primates. This looked more human, but the mouth was quite large, and you could see his lips moving.

18:31 And then he had the deep set eyes and they were black. They were round and they were black. So I could not see the nose part because there was a branch like covering it, and you could see he was blinking its eyes, you know, moving his lips almost as if if he was chewing on something. I don't know, but his lips were moving. He propped his elbows on his knees, and you could see the long hair draping down over off from his forearms and hanging down, and long hair on the head. And the infant or the toddler his or her hair. I did not know if it was a male or female. I couldn't tell, but its hair was kind of matted and just kind of all twisted and just like it really needed a good brushing.

19:27 It also had round eyes black and it didn't have a whole lot of hair on the face, but it still looked human like, but infant another researcher she came and she put her arm on my shoulder and she looked into view and she's just like, oh, one like that really loud. And I just stood up and looking at her like oh she yelling at him. You know, I was just like what. And she goes, did you not hear that? And I said no, I'm talking to squatch here and she says, yeah, I see that, because she's she saw the infant as well. And I said hear what? And I said, there's a helicopter going over my head and she says, no, helicopter. Here. She goes two trees, she says, just came crashing down. She goes behind behind all those trees back there, and I said I did not hear that. And she started laughing and she says, I don't know how you could not have heard that. She goes, it echoed the whole lake and she goes, it was one after another and I said no, and I said, but are you. I'm like stuttering, and I said, do you see what I'm seeing here? And she says, I do you know? She starts taking pictures and we're just standing there, just talking. And at the time I still had the infant in view, and I don't know if Junior that's what I call him, Junior got up and walked away or not. Because I could no longer see him. She started to take pictures. The

21:02 other researcher slipped me his camera. He had a video camera, and I could not even get get it in view. His camera was doing all kinds of crazy things and I just gave it back to him. I said, it's not working. Then he decided, He says, well, you know what, I think we need to go. So he started to dig up his cast, even though it wasn't dry. The researcher was taking photos. She showed me. She says, is this what you're seeing? And I said, yeah, it really blurry? And I said but yes, And I said that kind of looks like it, you know, And I said, but it's blurry and she says yeah. She says, I can't get a clear picture. Then her camera went started to go crazy and she lost five days of photos right there.

21:51 And then we decided it's time to go, so I said my goodbyes, you know, my thing. At the time, I did not see the infant or junior, so we were assuming they, you know, went where it was safer or they just left. But as we were walking back to the truck, we definitely were escorted out. We did not walk fast. We still acted normal, laughing, having a good time, and just letting them know that every time we you know, we heard a tree snap, we said, we know we're leaving, you know, because and I just still kept saying thank you. You know, I was so excited.

22:46 I did not want to go back. I mean I literally wanted to sit there all day. But of course we know that it's not smart. We figured that the trees being knocked down might have been Mama and dad saying, hey, you know, you're getting a little close. I did not step in closer to them. I stayed put. What we questioned was what was going on with my ears to where I did not hear the trees falling down, And till this day, I don't know. I know a few people have said that they've had the same experience to where they felt like high vibrations was going on loudly in their ears for sound. I honestly cannot tell you.

23:38 I do not know. Was it my adrenaline possibly, I don't know, because I was definitely excited to see what I saw and for it to be not dangerous. I didn't feel that I was in danger at all. It just felt like it was a normal thing to see these things. And we ended up going back to camp. And you know, I've heard stories about the squatches following you, following you back to camp, or even following you home that evening. I have an Australian shepherd and he was camping with us, and I think it was about eleven.

24:34 It was about eleven o'clock. So one of the researchers, the female researcher, was I was sitting down and I was facing the tree line and it was just a very small tree line, and beyond that tree line where the bathrooms. But I happened to see two lights or something glowing like probably eight foot up into the tree line. And I didn't think nothing of it. And I thought, yeah, that's probably just like somebody's camp, you know something. So I didn't think I didn't think much of it. I didn't say anything. And then about an hour later, Mac, my Australian shepherd, he started to I had him on a leash. He started to kind of get up and chase things, and I'm thinking, what is he chasing? You know, I'm like, what's falling from the trees? And the researcher said, she goes, I don't think anything's falling from the trees.

25:33 And I'm like, well, he's going after something. And then all of a sudden, we kept hearing pink and just happened to catch it as it rolls and it was a pebble that hit the metal pole of the pop up and I just kind of looked at her and I said, is somebody throwing pebbles at us? And she goes, yep, And I said, what's throwing sad as I'm like, who's out there doing it? She goes, I don't think it's a human, and I said, you know, and I just looked at her. I'm like squatch and she goes, I believe. So she goes, but let's just let's just play it cool.

26:14 She goes, Let's just sit here and keep talking and see how long they continue to play with Mac. And they did it for a good thirty minutes, and he would go and and chase these pebbles. And we're still just acting and I'm still trying to watch the tree line a little bit. But she had let you know, don't don't steady it too much. She says, to still act like yourself, and I did. Then he had Mac. I had to take Mac to the bathroom and I was always took him to the same area of the tree line. He did not want to go. He absolutely refused, so I said, okay, I'll take it to the other side of camp. Them to the bathroom, started to head back and we heard this loud howl that echoed the whole camp. My dog Max sat to attention and he whined, and I, you know, I asked my husband because he was in the tent, and I'm like, did you hear that?

27:22 And he goes, I did. I said that was not a coyote and he goes, no coyote. And the other researchers like, that is not a coyote and they had big, huge smiles on their faces because they've heard these these howls before. I said, is that squatch? And they were like, it's possible. And I said that didn't even sound like a wolf. I said, are there wolves here? And they said she, you know, They're like, we don't know if there are wolves or not. And I'm like, that did not sound like a wolf either, and I said, just like it sounded much bigger, and she says, yeah, I agree. You know, I was getting tired and I figured I'm going to go to bed. Matt refused to come into the tent because my tent was really close to the tree line, and I really had to convince him. I mean I had to love him up and everything and try to get him to go in, and he finally went in, and he just sat there and he was watching the top of the tent and something scraped like from the side, and he watched it go from the side to the top, and as it got to the top, there was no scratch sound. But then the bug light that we had hanging from the center started shaking like crazy.

28:50 And it was a quiet night. There was not a lot of wind to where I think that it would really shake it, because then it ended up stopping, and then the sound of the scraping went all the way across and then down again, and then he mac was still whining. He literally jumped up into my cot, you know, and I had to try to calm him down a little bit. And then I heard this this crazy sound. It was like, oh, like that, and I'm thinking, wow, and I'm like, that's bad. I'm like, I don't know who was that. I said, who you're trying to sound like? And I'm thinking, but that was bad. And I just started chuckling, and Mac whined again, and he jumped down and he went to the other side of my cot and kind of was trying, like looking at the wall of the tent and just whining, and I'm thinking, whatever's there was still there. I couldn't hear it walking out there, So I have I have no idea what it was big for.

30:00 Society will be right back after these messages. The next morning and a lot of people are saying, well, how could you fall asleep after that? I just wasn't scared, so I, you know, just fall asleep. It just wasn't scared at all. But the next morning we did go into the tree line and it was a lot of leaves, but you could see deep impressions in the in the leaves, the fallen leaves to where it did appear something big was in the tree line, not good enough to take pictures.

30:53 I mean, anybody with a trained eye would probably be able to see it, but it wasn't even worth taking photos. And what I thought was odd was the area that I always took Mac to go use the restroom, and I always picked up his messes and you know, properly disposed of it. There was I can't I don't know what they're called, but like the toilet, what RV's used for the toilet, It was like the ring like to make it smell good. I don't know the technical name for that. But it was broken and it was laid there and I even had to chuckle, and I'm thinking, well, sorry, squatch, and you know, I said, if my dog stinks, and I said, I did pick up this mess, you know, and I just had to chuckle. And I took pictures of it, you know. And I asked my husband, like, did you toss this here? And he goes, no, oh, he says, we don't have an RV. He goes, why would I toss that there? And I thought, well, I don't know. I'm just asking. And nobody around us had RVs except for the people across from us. But I just don't understand why they would toss it in that area, like if they did like toss it so, you know, I mean, some people say, well, maybe it was a gift,

32:24 and I thought, that's awfully funny gift. And then maybe it was a gift for Mac. I don't know. I just want to say that was I'm still processing it, you know, because sometimes I'm thinking, was this psychosist? Is it because I wanted to see a squash so bad? Was it psychosis? And the other researcher was telling me no, because she goes, I saw it too. She goes, I didn't see Junior. She goes, but I did see the small one and I thought okay. And I said, but you were just so natural role and she says, well, I've I've seen several. And she goes, you were quite natural too, and I said, yeah, I guess I was the only reason why I just want people to know is not not every encounter is scary or you know, some people say that they've been attacked and I'm you know, throwing rocks at you. If the rocks don't hit you, that's not that's not being attacked. You know that could be just they're toying with you, or they're basically saying, hey, you're getting too close, go away. That's that's how I take it. You know, I'm just rambling, So I hope, I hope you're still with me.

33:52 It's one of the more really interesting accounts I've heard in a while, and there's some really unique things in it. So you had a total of three people there that saw the little one, just. The two the female researcher. I'm not sure if her husband saw it or not. I think he saw like movement, but did not get a clear visual like like we did, and like I did. I mean, my eyes were glued, you know, I was yeah, and I know it probably wasn't a smart thing to just stay there, but it's almost as if they did not want me to leave.

34:41 That's how I felt, like, No, you're gonna stay here, and you're gonna look at us, and we're gonna look at you, you know, because you're quite interesting. I think they found me quite interesting because because I am quite silly, you know, you know, I don't know, And we were laughing, you know, on the way there. We were laughing there, you know, we were just just having having a really good time, you know, and none of us carried, so we didn't appear to be as threat. Not saying that people do carry, that they are a threat and that they appear to be a threat, but just saying maybe that's why, I don't know potentially.

35:21 The other really unique thing that you had said is I don't think i've ever heard this kind of thing in an account before. If I understood it the right way, is so you were able to take photos and notice that the photos were blurry while you are looking at the actual subject, Yes. The whole camera, because the video camera, you know, how the little window opens up that was going like up and down like waves, like like as if something electric was interfering, like there was the interference. And I'm thinking, gosh, your camera's not even working. It's like going up and down like in waves, you know. And her camera, when she showed me the picture, it was already blurry. And I'm thinking, that looks like the eyes in the face.

36:16 And I said little blurry and I said and she says, yeah, she goes, I don't know why it always happens. She goes, it's always blurry. And then I walked away a little bit to try to, you know, to see if I could see the little one again, and she just said she started, you know, like complaining and like, oh my god, I can't believe this has happened. I'm thinking, you know what happened. And she says, I just lost five days of my photos. I said, what do you mean? And she goes, five days of my photos and these photos here are just gone. And I was like, did you delete them? And she's like no, She's like, I didn't delete them, They're just gone. And I don't think she's she ever recovered them.

36:57 It would not be surprising at all. The losing evidence this way is something I hear a lot. I mean, just recently out in Oregon, the Area fifty eight museum team, when they go up in their area, oh coll their phones are taking multiple photos that they didn't take. It's taking longer videos than they thought, it's deleting stuff. It's just I don't know what it is, but there is something associated with Bigfoot that messes with electronics. Yeah, well it obviously did. That day. You know, I was just an awe. I mean, I still am. I want to go back, but of course, you know, we go back they're probably long gone, you know. It just was very very lucky that day, you know. And I I've had people tell me that, you know, whether it's true or not, you know, I don't know. I'm just repeating what they say. It's almost like people are marked.

38:12 It's like once you've seen one, and you go out to an area, an active area, and it doesn't even have to be an active area because I'm finding you know, I'll tell you a little bit more about this in a minute, but any cryptid knows that you know, you know that you're aware of them. I have gone out into areas where there have been no big foot sightings, and at least I've looked up maybe like two, but I guess they weren't. They just said that they know they're there. They didn't say that they've seen them. But I can go out there and just talk and saying, you know what, I know you're here. And I said, just if you could just give me a sign, and I said, just tell me that you are here. I said, I won't take photos. I just want to know if you're here. And I got a rock clock like click click, and I'm thinking, and no one's you know, no one's in these woods with me. I was actually by myself and and I'm thinking, if that was you, thank you.

39:39 And then I got another one click click, and I'm thinking, all right, I'm going to take it as that was you. And I said, no, you know, I'm just let you know, I'm just here hiking, just enjoying myself. And I know if some people say you're absolutely you're absolutely insane woman, and I said, I possibly am insane. I don't know, but I've been taught since I was a little girl that when you're go camping and you're in the woods, that you can actually talk to the woods, you know, say, it's more like a spiritual thing. I am part Native. The gentleman who taught me that he was also part Native and said that, hey, you know, when you go into the woods, you you can put your hands on the trees and you tell them thank you, you know, thank you for everything, you know, thank you for the gifts that they give us, ask them to protect you, that kind of thing. And whether it was just him being silly, and because I was younger and trying to make make the camping more adventurous, I believed him. So I did it and I do it till this day, and I try to tell people that when you when you do put your hand on the trees. You know, if you stay there long enough, you can feel the vibration of the tree. You know, whether it's whether it's

41:11 you doing it or whether it's really the tree, I don't know, but try to experience it, you know, go out there and you know, and do that. It's not like I go out there and look at a tree and say, hey, you know, what's shake and bacon. You know, It's not like. You know, I did. Sorry, I did want to clarify real quick. So when the five days of photos were lost on the camera, that would include also the blurry photos that were taken on that exact day, right, yeah, okay. Yet, and that's what we were so bummed about, because at least we had that blurred face photo. You know, she almost cried. She wanted to cry, you know, and that's okay, you know, just wasn't meant for anybody else to see. I suppose, absolutely, yeah. But I have the area that I'm researching now just out of curiosity. I started.

42:18 I was driving up into the area and I told my you know, I told my husband and I said, you got to stop right here. And he's like why and I said, I'm just getting like this magnetic pool on my stomach. And I said, so just can we just stop right here? And he says okay, and I said back up a little bit, and he's like, all right, I wan to back up. And I got out and I went into the ditch and I said, what does this come here? And I told him, I said, want you to come out, and he's like all right. He gets out and I said, what does this look like to you? And he says a print? And I said, well kind of print, you know, because I'm not I didn't want to lead him, you know. I wanted him to tell me what it looked like. And he goes a foot print of what And he goes a human footprint and I said, this big and I think that one was sixteen inches And he says, I don't think anybody would be out here, he says, walking barefoot. He goes into the ditch into the woods and there had to have been at least four boom boom, and then it just disappeared into like the sticky, prickly bushes. I don't even know what they're called, and I'm thinking. I said, now, where did it come? I said, did it walk through these sticky, prickly little bushes? I said, did it jump them?

43:35 And he says, maybe it climbed the tree and I said that's a possibility. I said, maybe it did jump up and get into the trees. And that's when I knew we got a squatch in this area. And I asked another male research because my husband is he doesn't walk very well. He had two two knee replacements and a hip replacement, so he can't be really walking out there on you know, the uneven terrain. And we went walking and we found like more more prints. I was actually following a boot trail and the other researcher did not really understand what I was following. I love tracking, so I'm I'm gonna follow these boots. I'm gonna see where this these boots are going. And I found a trail cam and I pointed over there and I said look, and he goes, he says, that a trail cam and I said, yeah, so we did, like the peace sign in front of it. He's like, you're he goes, You're you're really silly, I said. I know, but at that moment, I said, do you smell that? And he's like, he's like no, And I said something really souper sweet, and I said, just I got a big whiff of it.

45:04 And then as I was telling him, he was like he had to have been maybe a good ten feet away from me, and he goes, he goes, yeah, he says, wait a minute. Big for society, who will be right back after these messages. He goes, I'm smelling it now. And I said, what foliage smells like this? You know? I said, I don't see any flowers. And here we are, We're smelling the bark from the trees, We're picking up the leaves, we're smelling like the root of the trees. We're trying to smell everything that would smell like that. And he's like, I don't smell it anymore, and I thought, no, I said, I said, we don't. I started to take pictures like in as if I was doing selfies without me in it, and I did like a three sixty.

46:15 Like like pictures, and when I got home, I uh looked at the pictures and no, you know, no no evidence of a like a squatch or anything like that. But no one can tell me yet what it is. But there's like a white light that starts from one of the photos and then circles around and comes back down like into the into the woods. And no one can tell me what that white that white streak is.

46:57 And as you look close to the end of the white the one white streak, somebody said it was like energy. Oh that's energy. And I tried to get it, you know, is as close as I could look at it and see. But you you actually see an image of a being. You know. I literally had like two eyes and like a funny nose, not a squatch. But you know, I'm not saying alien, and it could be that I the I Pieriduglia. You know, it's it's possible. So I you know, I'm not going to roll that out, but I am.

47:41 Every time I go back up to this area, I drive my jeep and I park in the same spot. And one day when we went back out to go check with, my husband decided he's going to walk a little ways with me and I told him, I said, I want to find a gifting tree. I said, I want to start gifting them, you know, little trinkets, not not food, but trinkets. And when we came back, and I have a picture of it, and I actually send it to a few people and some people are not sure what it means. But I found a glyph behind my jeep with sticks and I'd ask my husband, like that, that wasn't there when we left. And he says, he goes, no, he goes, it wasn't I said, because I had to open up the jeep and put my you know, put my boots on. And I said so and I said, it's just and I just looked. I'm like, did you do that? And he's like no, he goes, I want to do that. And I said, there's nobody else here, and I said I didn't hear any cars, you know, driving by to park or anything like that. And he's like nope. And and I've heard that they do leave glyphs or something. Does you know? I can't. You know, we don't know if it's a squatch, so I'm not going to say it is. But something left the glyph.

49:09 One gentleman said that the glyph meant that I forever protected, and I said okay, And he says, so he goes, whatever left that for you? He says, were you afraid at one point when you went there? And I said no, And I said, no, I was not. And I said, I'm not your typical female. And I said, I'm not afraid of the dark. I said, I will walk in the woods in the dark. And he says, you're nothing but crazy, and I said, I am. I said there's I don't want to say too much about myself, but there's I don't understand, like fear. You know, I can sense when it's not safe, so don't go, or when it is safe, go, if that makes any sense. But I've never been I've never been afraid. I've always walked in the dark. Even when I fed the horses. I wouldn't even turn the lights on or use flashlights, like just go barefoot and go out there for the horses come back. So it's but I found that quite interesting.

50:28 And then as I was taking off my boots, I had like short pants on, the little khakis that come down to your knees because it was summertime. I took my boots off and my husband was at the front of the jeep and I was near the end of the jeep, and he goes, I thought, he goes whoa. He goes, what's that? And I said, I'm like, oh, I'm like what, I smell that sweet smell and he says yeah, he goes, I smelt it too, he goes, but not anymore. I'm like, oh no, I'm like it's I'm like right here, and I said oh, and I said and I even said it, and I'm like, what's ever right in front of me? And I said, you're tickling me. As soon as I said that, the tickles quick, I felt literally felt hair on my body and on my bare legs. And my husband was, oh, I think it's time to go. And I just started chuckling, and I thought, you know, I'm said, we don't have anything to fear, but okay, if you want to go, we'll go.

51:35 So I don't. I can't explain. I can't explain that. I've had people tell me that they can cloak and you probably that it's their breath, and I'm thinking, so these things are getting like right up into my face and breathing on me. And I had a Native American, well, I can I can fide in her and and she says that when they trust you and they don't fear you, she goes. They will do that. But I have a hard time putting. You know, when you see the Patty, you know that film of Patty putting something that massive and then giving it abilities. That's a hard concept to swallow, you know. It's it's like, how why did I not see it? You know why? And mind you it was you know, the senatory set, so you know it was dark.

52:51 Can they blend in, you know, into the night like that as well and then be right up in front of your face and you do not see it? You know, my I don't, you know? And they say that they will follow you home. I have found tracks in the dry dock of my horses. I found four of them that would that literally came up over the fence and walked into the pasture. These were only nine inches though, and they did have toes, so I'm thinking nine inches is like, hm, you know, that could still be human, you know, so I didn't pay too close attention to that like that very well. Could be that somebody was walking around in sandals or something and you know, and their toes just kind of swoshed into the mud. I don't know, you know, why they would be back there by the horses you know, I have no clue. Maybe trying to steal them. I don't know, but yeah, I it's just very very interesting and kind of worrisome, worrysome because it's only been two years and I have seen a lot in two years versus someone who's been doing it for thirty plus years and has never seen one.

54:19 Well, that's the thing. I was actually just going to ask that for verification or clarification again, because I was like, I was singing the same time. I was like, this is a lot to happen within two years, so I need to double check if this was in two years. And that's the wildest thing about it. I mean, there's a lot going. On here, yep, a lot. And I even kind of backed off from my area a little bit because I went up there and the lady had pulled in with her dogs and she says, what are you you know, what are you looking for? And I I said, oh, nothing, and I said, just hiking and she says, she says oh, and she says this is a really interesting area. And I said, oh, well, why do you say that? And she says, well, I've seen a big band, she says, our truck, she says, and it had these like things that you could listen, she says, sitting on top, and I sat like like ears, Like I said, like those bionic ears, and she's like yeah, she says. She says, they said that they were listening for stuff, and I said, they didn't say what they were listening for. She goes no, and I said, well, maybe maybe coyotes, you know, or foxes,

55:51 and she says that big and I'm thinking, I honestly, I said, I don't. I don't know. And then when I went back to my area a few days after that, I saw two gentlemen. They had a campfire set up, and I'm thinking, what are they? Like, you can't camp here, you know, I'm like, what are they doing? So in me being nosy, I had to ask them if they you know, if they were park rangers or something like that, if they and You're like no, They're like, we're just hanging out, and I said okay. And then I did ask them and I said, did you guys happen to see a truck? And I said, with big like listening devices on them, because they said they they're there all the time and I've never seen them before. And the guy says, yeah, he goes, I did, and he says they said that they were sending out squatch calls. And he started laughing and I thought, like fast squatch. And he goes yeah, and he says like there's a bigfoot out here or something. And I thought, huh, well, I was like interesting, and he goes yeah, he goes, people are weird. He goes, maybe there's UFOs, you know, and he's like oooh, like you know doing that, and I thought, I didn't say anymore, you know, I'm just like hmm, all right, you know, and I walked back, so I you know, I told my husband, I said, I think I'm gonna kind of back off from this area just a little bit, as I think somebody's I think somebody's

57:23 onto me. And he was like, all right, you know, or maybe somebody's seen something and called. I don't know, that's some that's some really really weird stuff. And I don't think I've mentioned this to you, but so earlier we were talking about northern Cambria area. Yeah, and I don't know, you know exactly where we're talking about now, but I mean that whole area is weird, especially especially if you go south. I've talked to a lot of people around Forbes State Forest in that area is just out of control when it comes to bigfoot encounters, and you might be aware of that already too.

58:07 Yeah, we've seen blue we've seen ords. The very first time I went there, we've seen a blue orb. That was my first time seeing anything really bizarre then. I mean, I was shaking the girls because we did lights out and because I spotted it first. And I said, there's a blue light over there, and I said, it looks like a blue ball and I said it's just kind of floating. And they're like what, And they all turned and we were watching it, and someone said it's a car and I said, in the woods. I set a car in the woods. And I said, but it's just a steady flow ball like going and I said, it's not going up and down. It went to the right of us, and then it started to come towards us, and then it turned and went back to where it originated from and then it disappeared. Now that's not a car, you know. We still had lights out, and as we started to walk out, we were going to turn our red lights back on, but the first researcher ahead of us goes hold up, and he goes look over there about eight foot up and there were a set of glowing eyes, and then another set of glowing eyes appeared and they were literally coming closer to us, and the one gal says, well, that's just camp lights, and like

59:40 that is not camp lights. I'm like, that is no possible way is at camp lights. And the other three said that is not camp lights. And then one other lady goes, they're getting too close. Lights back on. And as she said lights back on, those eyes dropped down to the ground, I mean like quick like down and I was just like, okay, I don't know what what what we just saw, you know, And the one girl goes, it's probably sasquat and I'm thinking, oh my goodness, Big for. Society will be right back after these messages.

1:00:38 But before we saw that blue light, I was at the end of the the end of the hiking. There's like five of us, and the ladies they're like, we don't want to be the last one. It's like because we were going to walk in the dark. And I said, I'll be the last one, you know, because I'm not afraid. So I'm walking and one person had the lights, so they were kind of leading the way and none of us had lights. I turned my red light off because I didn't need it. I turned it off and I said to them and I said, guys, and I said, I just feel like somebody's pushing me. I said, like, not physically, like the touch. And I said, but I'm getting it in my back, like pressure, like move it, move it. I said, that's what I'm getting, like we need to go faster. And the other researcher that was way ahead and he goes, move on. He goes, hold up.

1:01:37 He comes and he starts to walk behind me and we're walking and I said, okay, yeah, that sensation is gone now and he goes, yeah, he goes because it's on my back and I said, well what is that and he goes, oh, that's in for sound. Oh dear. And I said, why isn't it affecting all of us? And they said not always does it? And I'm thinking, well, you know, hear me. I'm like, well that's really cool, you know, and everybody goes not always, you know, sometimes it can make you really really sick, and don't think, well I don't. I don't I don't feel sick, Thank goodness, you know. But and then that's when when and then shortly after that we saw the blue orbs now blue Orbs sasquatch together. I honestly do not know, but you have to admit it is kind of strange that whenever you go to a squatchy area there's all these lights, you know, orbs. I've gone to the an s to.

1:02:49 Actually it was a bfro area. I did not go with bfro O. It's just another gentleman knew of this area. So we went camping there. I the first night, something flashed in the tent and it was not lightning, but it was like a bright flash like onto my eyes, and like literally, you know, woke me up, and I'm thinking, what the heck, you know. So I'm kind of like look outside on zip, look outside the tent, and I'm thinking, oh, there's nothing here. It's like nobody's walking around with a flashlight. And it wasn't raining. The skies were clear. I didn't hear any thunder or anything like that. So that's when I knew, like, okay, that wasn't I didn't think much of it, so, you know, I went back to sleep the next morning. The we went for a hike, a short hike, and we found Prince, and then we found bear prints. And now we all know that the bears can't retract their nails. So I'm thinking, you know, the other researcher and I said, why does it look like squatches walking with this bear? And I said, is he walking along this bear? Is he following the bear? Is it?

1:04:14 They just according to the tracks and the way that they dried it, it looked like the same time, the same time frame, so it could have been just the same day or was within hours. Maybe the bear, maybe the squatch, possible squatch, because we obviously don't know was following the bear, because the other ones were definitely footprints, and I believe I remember correctly, these were eighteen inches eighteen inch prints. And then when we measured the bear prints because yeah, you know the bear, prince, will they double step and I'm thinking they were not the same size.

1:05:00 We knew bear, something barefoot, you know, was walking out here. The next night, another flash in the tent, and I'm thinking, oh gosh, it's like, okay, look out again, like nothing, nobody's outside. So I go back, I try to go back to sleep, and I must have fallen asleep, because the way that I described that, someone said that I had sleep paralysis. I opened my eyes and I could not move. I couldn't. I literally felt the tear like running down my face because I thought I did something to my back and maybe then I was paralyzed. I couldn't open my mouth, I couldn't move nothing. I couldn't yell out nothing. And that had to have lasted probably a minute. It felt like a minute, and I didn't see anything inside the tent, and that's all I remember.

1:06:08 And it's like, OK, I must have went back to sleep or or something. But the next morning, you know, I told my husband about it, and he goes, oh, you go, that's really weird. But yeah, it is really weird. And I said, because why is all this strange crap? I said happening to me? I said, well, do they pick on you? I said, well, don't they pick on the other guys? I said, well, they got to pick on me for you know. He's like, I don't know, but you know a few people have said, well, maybe it's because you know that you're you're sensitive, and this is kind of like, yeah, but they can stop picking on me. You know, you know, it's like pick on the yeah, pick on the ones that don't that have no good intentions for pick on them, you know.

1:06:55 And this was the Alleghany National Forest, correct. Yeah, and that's a fantastic area. So if you oh yeah, oh my gosh, so many weird things go out and go on out there. I heard. I talked to Amy Boo once and she told me about Yes, they had a situation in that area, in that forest where multiple people in the party were all experiencing some pretty wild heart palpitations that they figured probably tied into U two infrasound, which is wild.

1:07:39 Wow. Okay, yeah, Now there's another researcher. I had told her about it because she had just gotten back from the a NS and I said, hey, I just want to tell you what happened to me out there. And then she's like hold up, and she goes, I have to have somebody call you, and you know, they never called me, but she said that another gentleman was just saying the same thing that he was, that a flash of light woke come up, you know, several nights in a row, and I thought, there, see, I said, is that aliens? I'm like, what you know, and that's when I started, That's when I started to get a little interested in like the aliens and in the you know, in the Move On, and I'm thinking, I'm not saying they're related like Bigfoot and you know aliens are, but there's just so much going on in this world that you can't explain, and I'm intrigued with that. You know, I've never seen, you know, an alien before. I don't think i've seen. I think the Starlink was the first, you know, the closest things I could say, I see what would look like a U let go. You know, I know I had a dream, oh gosh, maybe my twenties.

1:09:05 I would think of dreams, a reoccurring dream. And then it stopped that I was actually out on a ship and I was on the outside of the ship and I was trying to escape, you know. I know a couple of people said, yeah, They're like, would you have to drink that night? And it's like nothing, I'm just saying that that's what I had, and I remember it vividly, vividly. I'm not saying I was abducted, but I don't know why I had that dream. It makes sense that you are that you became a training with mouf on all that. Hearing all your accounts so far, I can kind of see the connections of why you would want to look into that for sure.

1:09:54 So you are still actively going out and pursuing bigfoot research as well. Yes, yeah, I go. I try to go, you know, with my area, I visited at least, you know, once a week camping. I've got I do have a private investigation that I do for a gentleman on his land. Is I'm so intrigued with his land. I've actually heard chatter on there because there was one time I had to go buy myself and he only has about three and a half acres, and then it connects to another person's property, which I had permission, you know, to travel on to that property, but it wasn't able to take photos just I could travel on to it. I've heard chatter there. And the day that I went by myself again, I had some thing. I saw the logs. There was a tree that he had that knocked over the trail that led to the back of his property, and he said that that little trail, he says, there's just something beyond it. He says he was injured so he could no longer like travel back there. And I thought, well, I'm not going to travel back there either. If he's

1:11:26 you know, feeling a little iffy about it, I'm going to listen to his vibes. And as I was walking towards it because I wanted to take photos, something like swished by me. Really it was snowing, no, it had already snowed, but the wind was very little, very little breeze, and it was like a gray thing like I just saw quick gray and my hair went, you know, like swished, and I started to chuckle, you know, I just tarted to laugh because that's me. And I said, if that was you, I said, that was rude, you know. And I said, you messed up my hair, you know. And I said, if that was you, I said, can you let me know? And I got a tree knock, and then I said, if that was your tree knock, let me know. I got two tree knocks, and then I just held up my hand, you know, and I said, thank you so much. And I said, this is as far as I go today, you know, And I started laughing.

1:12:34 I said, but I'm gonna walk around, I said, on the other side of the property. I said, because I'm very curious of you. I said, you haven't given me too much to go by today. I said, no, tracks got some funny looking tracks, but I think that they were what I call squirrel butt I prints, like squirrel jumping. I thought, you know, and I even said, it's all I'm getting a squirrel butts here. I said, you're giving me nothing today. And I know everybody says, you're just so crazy, Lavan, I said, I am, And I said, and I think it's why I'm not scared, because I think I'm talking too much, you know. I walked around the other side of the property and I hear this ome on like that and I'm taking and I said, well, I know what turkey sounds like, and I was a poor turkey, and I said, you're giving me some poor turkey sounds, you know. And then I started to walk and then it was a different like almost as if they tried to change the tone, so it was like like a deeper one. And I thought, all right, and I'm like that still wasn't a turkey. And I said, so, how many of you are there? And I said, they want to ask like a bunch of turkeys, And I just kept walking and it was a third like attempt, but turkey, that's what I'm saying. It was just a bunch of at all like that. And someone said, oh, no,

1:14:08 you you just heard samurai chatter. And I said, well, it sounded like turkey. And I said, but like a really bad turkey sound, like like they were like gurgling water or something and trying to talk while they were gurgling water. And they said, yeah, no, no, that samurai sound. And I thought, interesting, And I thought, I did not even have my recorder on. I know, I know half the time, so that's when it then always happens. No phone, no recorder, so I just might you know, I'm not even told them, but I lost time that day and what I thought was only an hour of walking around because I was by myself, and even though the gentleman, you know, was you know, in his home and he could see me, I was there almost four hours. And I had asked the gentleman and I said the very first time, and I said that I can't say too much about his encounter because it might give him away.

1:15:26 But I said the first time that you had your encounter, And I said, did you lose time? And he goes, I did, and I said how much? And he says, he goes, quite a few hours, Big. For Society will be right back after these messages. And he said, I went out there. He goes and realized like I was gaying dark. He goes, I need to go. He goes, I need to go home. I need to get back to the house. And I'm thinking, yeah, I said, because I just feel like I've been out there like an hour. And I said, but I've been there like almost four hours. And he says, interesting. And then he has told me that he's seen strange lights in his woods. So I'm thinking, well, I abducted, you know.

1:16:35 It's like what they do to me, you know. Yeah, yeah, And that's what my husband said. You are not going back there. He goes, by yourself ever again, and I thought, no, I won't. And I have I wear hearing aids and the day that because the gentleman, you know, I did do like my very first little mini documentary on his property. And it's not a very good one, but I tried. But when we first got there, my hearing aid, one side of my hearing aid, the volume was going up and down, up and down, up, and down, up and down, and I'm thinking, I'm not touching it. My hair is not heavy enough to touch the dials in the back my phone. Matter of fact, I didn't even have the phone connected to my hearing aids, so therefore it could not have been my phone. And then I even mentioned it on the documentary. Then when we went on to the other side of the property, and as I was talking and filming his land behind me, my hearing aids were doing that on the other ear. It was going up and down, up and down, up and down, and I can't see it. But a woman said that She sent me the freeze frame and she says, you have something back there staring at you. She goes inside the trees in the bushes, and I could not see it.

1:18:08 I mean I was doing everything I possibly could to see it, and she even circled it. And I'm thinking, we're seeing a lot more than I than I can. And I said, because I cannot see it, but she goes, oh no, she goes yeah, she says, you have a squatch she says, or something. She says, watching you as you're talking. And I thought, well, they you know, something was there. My husband feels like it doesn't like him, you know, which is I guess most men say that they feel like, you know, that the squatches or or whatever's out there doesn't like them, even when we go to our area. It was funny because he says, he goes, he loves me so much, and I'm so glad that he does, you know, because but he does think I'm a little on the crazy side. But he told me, he goes, go talk to your tree, Go do what you gotta do. He's just he's skinning dark, you know, you know. So I'm like, all right, you know, and I said that you gotta be quiet, and he's like, all right, I guess I'll be quiet. So I'm putting, you know, I put my hand on the tree and which I just kind of lean up on it and just like in my head say things, you know, and the ground started to shake like something like like the

1:19:41 like that, and I just looked at him and I smiled, and he goes, I felt it. And I said, did you feel that? And he goes, yeah, he goes, what'd you say? I said, I asked the tree for a sign, and he goes, yeah, he goes, well, as as I felt it, he goes, I seen because it was getting dark. He says, there was a dark shadow. He goes, probably about eight foot tall. He goes seventy eight foot tall. He goes, I just went like really fast. He goes back in amongst the trees. He goes, we're leaving now. And I started to laughing, and I said, we don't have anything to fear. And he goes, we're leaving now. He goes, I have no sidearm with me. He goes, I don't know what that was. He goes, and the ground just shook and he goes and I want to go, And I thought, you're the boss, let's go, you know, And I said, dang it. And I said every time we get close to something, And he's like, he says, you don't feel scared, and I said, no, I don't.

1:20:35 And I said, but we'll stick to your vibes, you know, I said, I'm not. I don't want anybody to feel uncomfortable, you know, just because I don't. Just because I have a good vibe about it, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a positive thing for someone else. So I stick to his vibe and saying, then let's go. It sounds like you're a good came out there for that. You keep each other, keep each other safe. That's good. Yeah, yeah, I agree, because he's he's not is And I mind you if I pick up on something and say, you know what we there's areas like when we went camping the first time in Cambria County. Another woman was there with me at first and before everybody showed up, and she says, oh, I wanted to show you. She says, where where we put an apple? And I said, okay, you know, and it was dark, it was about nine o'clock at night, and we started to walk down the trail and she goes, I can't I can't remember which which way to go, and she was going to start to go right, and I stopped her and I said, we're not going that way. And she's like what And I said, I don't. I literally do not feel good about that way. I said, right here, I said, I am just getting this tight, tight clench in my gut

1:22:05 and I said we're not going that way, and she was like, you know what, we're not And then she says, oh, never mind, turn around, and I said what. She goes, there's the apple, and I'm thinking okay, And I said, but we're not going that way and she said okay. And it was really funny because that was the same night that we saw the blue Ords, you know, and then the eyeballs, and that direction was which the eyeballs came from. So I told another female and I said, yeah, I just I didn't want. I didn't want to go down that way. And I said, that's probably the first time and the only time that I got that really sticky feeling was like, no, we're not going that way.

1:22:52 You know. Whether it was something telling me or maybe I was scared, you know, I don't know, but it just said, not going that way. I said, we'll go that way. And I said, I'll knock down all the spider webs for you if you want, because that's all I'm good for. That's funny because I'm like, I'm like five eight and you know, and all these other female researchers are much smaller than me, which is okay, not knocking them, but it's like I'm the tower for them. It's like you knock over the spider webss Like, all right, I'll knock them over. Levon, you are having some really incredible interactions out there.

1:23:33 I'm glad we're able to get connected and that you agreed to come on the show. I would love to to keep in touch. Definitely. It feels like you probably continue to have some some pretty cool stuff happen. Yeah. Yeah, We're gonna hit Salt Fork Care soon, so I'm really curious to see what happens out there. Oh yeah, I know, I'm definitely gonna need to hear about that, because that is just Yeah, you're getting into an area that that would be cool. But you know, as we are, as we're starting to wrap up, you know, do you do you have a leaning towards you know, some people are thinking that you know, these whatever is out there is some form of ape or some form of you know, human relative. Do you have any leaning either way or how do you think of these?

1:24:31 You know, maybe like part native and I believe in their stories, you know so much, and I believe in their spirituality. I honestly, I do agree that these are spirit things, interdimensional. I'm I'm I'm not. I'm not there yet because I haven't witnessed anything. Even though the eyeballs and then the blue ball that could have been something, but there still wasn't one hundred proof, you know, saying that's where those eyes came from. You know, that's so.

1:25:14 I but I do not believe they are primates. That they're they're more. They're more than primates. They're more than that. They just have way too much abilities. And whether it be two different things, that's another question. Is there a primate and is there something acting like the Bigfoot? If that makes any sense, it makes, it makes one hundred sense based on other things I've I've heard over the years, and I think that's that's a whole that is a whole discussion in potential episode in itself, that that's where it can get really well. But Levon, I mean, we are going to need to keep in touch, and yeah, I think maybe we'll have to have a check in with you sometime in the future, if you'd be interested in that. But it's been a pleasure talking to you tonight. Yeah, Well, thank you very very much for listening. And I hope I didn't ramble too much. You know, anybody that knows me, I'm just quite silly. I just love to laugh, you know, so.

1:26:28 Fantastic. Well, it's been a pleasure chatting to you, and best of luck when you get out to Ohio and as you keep looking around in Pennsylvania. All right, thank you very much. Just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you Hollman listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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