Sept. 11, 2024

We've All Seen Something in Tomahawk, Wisconsin

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we have two encounters to share.Pete shares his extremely intense 1979 Sasquatch encounter from Tomahawk, Wisconsin he had at the age of 12 years. We then discuss missing person reports and Dogman sightings in the...

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we have two encounters to share.Pete shares his extremely intense 1979 Sasquatch encounter from Tomahawk, Wisconsin he had at the age of 12 years. We then discuss missing person reports and Dogman sightings in the same area as it was part of the conversation. You will notice audio gaps to keep certain names out of the recording. That is intentional.

Rick also comes onto the show. Rick, a Warren County, Ohio resident and Bigfoot Society listener, shares a startling encounter that rekindled his interest in the paranormal. After years of casual interest fostered by 70s media, Rick experienced a UFO sighting outside his house, followed by unusual owl-like sounds and wood knocking from the nearby woods. Reflecting on his years in the military and police force, Rick investigates these phenomena, searching for connections between UFOs and Bigfoot. His story is punctuated with memories of local lore and past sightings, making for an intriguing exploration of the unknown in his Ohio neighborhood.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Pete today. Pete is

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an individual that reached out to me from up in Wisconsin,

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and he's got some interesting thing. He's got some interesting

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things that happened to him back quite a while ago.

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But I'm going to go ahead and let him kind

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of set the stage. And thanks are on the show, Pete.

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Yeah, no brom Jeremount, I thanks for letting me. My

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name is Pete. I was born in nineteen sixty seven

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in Tomahawk, Wisconsin, just to set the mood a little bit,

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like if you've never been to Wisconsin, when you get

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up cast the sand barns, like midway through the state,

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the northern half starts like the lake country. Minnesota's like

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playing the same as you know ten thousand lakes, they

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actually have like thirteen thousand. Wisconsin has fifteen thousand. Alaska

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has over a million. So it's swampy lake country up here.

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My encounter happened in nineteen seventy nine, and seriously, like

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the reason I came on this show was like I

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wanted to tell my story to thousands of people that

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I knew would believe me. I never said anything for

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probably forty years about this, And when I first started

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telling people, they would look at you like you were crazy.

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You'd say, oh, hey, that's a cool story. You want

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to hear a Bigfoot story, and you know, you might

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as well be running around telling people you've seen bugs

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bunny running out of the woods because it's just so

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fanciful and so anyway, I didn't tell my story until

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probably five years ago, and I was watching bigfoot podcasts

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and stuff, and I thought, man, that'd be cool, just

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to get this out of my chest. I'd been trying

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with people that I knew, and like nobody was trying

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to hear it. They're like, yeah, su or whatever. But

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about five years ago I got the courage and I

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text Steve i Isdall from How to Hunt about my

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encounter and it was kind of bland because he was

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reading it, you know, from an email. So my encounter

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happened in nineteen seventy nine. I was twelve years old.

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My dad owns a or owned a racetrack and a

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junkyard here in Tomahawk, which is a little community of

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thirty five hundred people, and being kids, I was the

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youngest of thirteen. Having the junkyard, we always had junk

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cars to drive around, but we didn't have driver's license.

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So in my town, you could look from my house

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to the parking lot of the police station. This is

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nineteen seventy nine and see if the squad. If the

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squad car was there, you could get in one of

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the dad's junk cars that ran, and you and a

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couple of your buddies go cruising out in the boondocks

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or whatever. So we'd wait for the cop to you know,

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pulling the station, and we knew we'd get out of town,

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but we had to drive out of town because we

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didn't have license while I was twelve years old. So

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one particular night, probably September, I had taken a like

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nineteen seventy two Toyota Tursell for a joy ride out

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of the junkyard. But I did it at night. And

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if you can kind of picture this, if you looked

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at the map, obviously north being north Tomahawk, or if

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you had a tee, Tomahawk could be down on the

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left corner of the tee. You go up to the

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top corner of the tee. One road goes left, one

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road goes right. The road that goes left is twenty

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eight miles long. It's Highway E. The road that goes

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right is a four mile stretch called Highway Holl. So

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it's about three and a half miles out of town

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to Highway HO. I get to Highway All, I take

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a right, and I'm noticing that my headlights are getting

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dim So I rolled down the window. When I rolled

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down the window, like you could hear the cicadas and

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crickets and bullfrogs.

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You know.

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It's just so I lean my head out the window

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to listen, and the lights are getting dimmer and dimmer.

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So I turn off the dashlights, turn off the radio,

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and I'm like, okay, I got to turn this car

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around and get it back home. Well, the cow ends

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up dying about a half mile from this four to

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four and a half mile stretch of highway holl and

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I'm like, damn, like, I gotta get this car back.

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Dad's gonna notice is gone next morning. It's gonna be

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hell to pay. So I get out of the car.

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There's like a muskeg area, probably half the size of

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a football field on the side that the car was

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broke down on. There's another smaller muskeg field kind of

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on the left, which is indicative of a swamp cattail's

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growing up and stuff. So I'm kind of debating what

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do I want to do. It's a long walk back to town.

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It's probably like eleven o'clock at night. So I start

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walking across this little two lane county road, you know,

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four foot gravel on the end going down to the

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swamp on both sides, and it's like ninety percent full

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moon with a little bit of cloud covers, so you

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can literally see, you know, pretty much everything. So well,

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I hear a noise and I look over and I

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see like the tallest pines that are probably like eighty

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foot on the edge of the swamp, maybe sixty footers

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are shaken back and forth, and I'm like, what in

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the world is at And then I see the next

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tree shake and the next tree shake, and then two

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of them are shaken like someone's pulling on them. Now,

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typically the biggest animal we would have up here in

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black bear. The state records like seven hundred and eighty

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three pounds, So I'm thinking it's got to be a

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black bear. So now I'm getting kind of scared. I

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kind of walk back to the car and I'm thinking

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should I get back in the car, And I'm like,

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hell no, I don't want to be stuck out here,

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you know, with whatever that is or that bear trying

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to dig in the car. So I'm like, I'm just

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gonna start walking real fast. As I'm walking pretty much

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as fasts probably as a twelve year old could do

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without running, the trees are get still moving and they're

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getting closer and closer to the road. Well, growing up

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in the seventies, like my exposure to Bigfoot was like

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Steve's whatever his name was, with a six million dollar man,

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Steve Austin or whatever, where he wrestled Bigfoot. If anybody

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remembers that show, it was probably on the nineteen seventy

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six or so. That was pretty much my exposure to it.

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You know, we had abcnbccbs, so we didn't like ever

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hear anything. I've heard about Bigfoot. I probably got books

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in school about them. But to my mesmerment or astonishment,

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it steps out from the edge of that tree bank

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into the ditch, which is probably thirty thirty six inches deep,

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and starts walking along with me. Now, everything in me

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told me do not run, don't run, don't run, because

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I was trying not to elicit that predator responsor you know,

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the chase response. But my mind said that, my leg

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said something different. So I started booking it, and I'm

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looking across it as saying, I mean it sing's sixteen

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feet away from me, and it's stepping like well, I

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was smaller back then, so it probably seems like it

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was a bigger step when I was a kid, But

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I would say eight to ten foot steps. So as

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I'm running as fast as I can. This thing is

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walking just leisurely clipped with its hand swinging, just like

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the Patterson film. Now, I got like three miles to

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go to get back to the street light where highway

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ends and eat starts. If I took a left, i'd

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go back to Twan. So I'm like, man, oh man,

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this is something else. Now when I think back on it,

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it to me it seems like I was floating over

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the scene watching what was happening with the big Foot

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on one side that rode me on the other side.

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That's kind of what my memory tells me now. But anyway,

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so I'm running down this road, and halfway down this

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road a guy had put up a quonset hut, which

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the army would helicopter them around you could park like

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a Willy's jeep, and there a couple of them. So

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he somehow got a hold of this coanset hut and

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he put it up right alongside the road and highway

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all and he had a street light out in front.

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And as I'm running, I probably had covered a mile

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at this point, like looking at this saying, just sinking,

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it's literally just going to reach his arm across the

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road and fricking grab me and wring my neck. So

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to say like that I was terrified, There's not even

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a word to describe the amount of terror that I

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had floaten through me, especially being an impressionable twelve year

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old boy. So anyone, how I keep running. Well, I'm

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coming up over this little crest of a hill and

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I see that yard light where that consit hut was.

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So I'm thinking, man, all right, I forgot. I just

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got to get to that yard light. And it's probably

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three quarters of a mile or a mile distant when

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I first see the light. So I'm like, yes, And

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I'm sitting there thinking, I mean, this thing's been running

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even if I did a seven minute mile, I mean,

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this thing's been running, walking alongside me, running for ten

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minutes by now, or eight minutes whatever. It was a

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long period of time. But at this point it's starting

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to come into my head. I'm just thinking, there's a

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billion things come into my head. But I'm like, man,

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I'm dead. You know, why hasn't even grabbed me? When

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it grabs me, I hope it's quick, you know, Like

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what are my parents gonna think or they ever gonna

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find me? Like all this is going through your head.

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So anyhow, I'm getting closer to the light, I get

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a half mile away or whatever, It's getting brighter and

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brighter and brighter. And then it just dawned on me

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or something. Epiphany came to me that if it was

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going to grab me, it was going to grab me

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before I got to that street light, because obviously it's

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going to want to do it under the cover of darkness.

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So now I'm like a quarter mile away from the

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light and I'm getting closer, and I'm getting really scared

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to get to that light, but I got no other

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place to go. So I'm like, Okay, the plan is

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when i get like two blocks from thee I'm going to,

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you know, just put it in the final gear that

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I got overdriving, get up to that house, and run

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into that house. So it's something in me like if

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you would ask if I would do that again, would

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I do this? I slowed down and started walking, like

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I don't know, maybe three or four blocks away from

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the light. And when I started walking, I noticed how

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hard I was bawling, like literally, and I literally just

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looked over at it and I said, dude, I will

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never say I seen you like I got no problems

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with you. I'm just a kid. I just want to live.

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I want my mom and dad. And this thing did

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the like Sierra sound thing like, and like literally talked

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back to me, and I just kept walking. And then

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like I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer, and I'm trying

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to think of anything I can say, because I can

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tell like there's like a dialogue going trying to elicit

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any empathy I could from just saying to spare me.

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And when I got like a block away from the

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street light, I just booked it, or maybe two blocks away,

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ran up, started pounding on the door. Bigfoot, I hate

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to even call it that. That sounds so cliche. Whatever

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it was, sasquatch took a write started crashing through the

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woods and I could just hear crack crack, I mean,

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just like a bulldozer was going through the woods. And

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I knocked on the door. No one came to the door,

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and they had a two ninety six nineteen seventy six

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three on the tree, Chevy pickup orange one. And I

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got in there and man, he's wearing there. I thought

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they don't come out. I blew my horn for like

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five minutes and I'm like, there's no way that I'm

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staying out by this thing. Kee's are in the truck.

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I'm head of the town. So that's pretty much the

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end of it there. And like I said, I didn't

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tell anybody. Probably the first time was about five years ago.

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And believe it or not, one of the people I

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told was one of my sisters. So we had this

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remembrance party for a guy named Ronnie Proctor up here.

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He was a Vietnam vet whuned at Northwood Sabron and

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Ronnie I've been done for fifteen years at this point,

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but we had a remembrance for him, and my sister

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walks up to me and she says, Peter, tell about

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your bigfoot encounter. And I was like, uh, shot up,

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like why did you do that? Looked at me and

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she goes, oh, I believe you, she said, because I've

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had dog man encounters. So that kicked off a whole

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other thing. And uh, she had a dog man encounter

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and the guy three miles away from her was having

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dog man encounters and he's been missing for twelve years.

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And two years ago another guy disappeared like from three

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miles away from there, without a trace, like infirm guy

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that rode a hover around, no activity in those credit

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cards or nothing, and about forty years ago another guy

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went messing there. But obviously, you know, no one even

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thought big Bigfoot or dog Man at that point. But

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so I'm certain I think there's some pretty nefarious stuff

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going on around here.

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So wow, first off, thank you for sharing that with

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the audience. I mean, that is that's an incredible story

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for something. I mean, for you to go through that

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as a twelve year old, that is just incredibly intense.

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You know, I've had events in my life like like

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a car accident I had a couple of months ago.

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You know, it's where you think about it and you

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kind of just shake your head and think like man,

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oh man, but I'm telling you that encounter Jeremiah, for me,

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like at least five days a week, I still dwell

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on that and literally shake my head and just think, liked,

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like is that crazy or what that that happened to me?

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Big for society who will be right back after these messages, you.

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Know, because I mean, part of it's a miraculous thing

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and another part of it's just like lunoucy. You know,

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it's where you're like thinking you lost your mind almost.

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I agree that when the logical side of our brain

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starts kicking in, it just it can't handle any of

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that stuff, and it tries to explain it away, and

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I get, I haven't seen anything yet, but I've heard stuff,

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and it tries to explain it away, and it's intense.

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Do you remember anything about what you saw that day?

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Like did you get a good look at the face

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at all?

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Or sure? Man, I could see, like I said, that

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moon was like it was probably like ninety eight percent

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full with occasional cloud cover. And when them clouds weren't

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cover that moon, I mean it was just you know,

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almost like daylight out. I seen every aspect of it,

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believe it or not, except for the feet, m I mean,

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the high brow ridge, higher set cheek, bones, slared out

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nose believe it or not, thin lips like didn't have

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big lips, just had like the thin chimp type whips,

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big like horse chickle teeth. Now thinking back, I don't

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remember really seeing ears. Definitely had the cone head with

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the giant trap muscles, huge hands like I would say

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mine or the one that I seen was eight foot tall,

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but part of me as an adult thinks it might

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have been like nine foot tall, but yeah, the hands

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on that thing had to be they had to be

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sixteen inches from wrist to fingertips with you know, fingers

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like the size of Killbosa. Like the grip strength that

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thing would have had in them hands would just have

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to be out of this world. And I remember seeing

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them hands as he was walking because they were swinging

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back and forth, and like my biggest fear was like, man,

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I hope he doesn't wrap them around my neck for real?

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Wow?

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How far down were the hands hanging on the body, which.

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I would say I would say three inches below the knee.

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Okay.

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Were you able to get a feel for what color

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it was? Maybe like what length of hair anything like that.

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I would say the hair length, I would say it

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was like two to three inches. It definitely didn't have

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like a big droopie for cold or six inch long hair.

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And who knows. I mean that could be due to

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the food source up here as a post other places,

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but uh, color was probably dark brown. You know, there

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may have been like some orange or red in her,

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but really I couldn't see what that moonlight. I mean,

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it just I would say they're black or dark brown them,

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aren't Jeremiah, like seriously like them? Biceps had to be

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like thirty five inches around wow, you know bicep and

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tricep which is just gargantulin. The forearm too, you know

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the forum. I don't know, probably twenty inches around at

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the you know, forearm muscle. Like this thing should literally

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be able to grab a car and like crush it

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like a soda can.

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Did it affect to you in any way as you

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grew up?

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Did it?

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Would you see it in your dreams? Or were there

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any other weird things that would happen to you as

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you grew up that might be connected to that sighting?

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Yeah, probably the most poignant, you know, event that ever

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happened to me. Like I said earlier, you know, there's

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events that happened in your life were on occasion you

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think wim and be like, yeah, that was something else

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and kind of shake your head. But like I said,

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five days a week at least I sit here and

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reflect back in that encounter for the last forty four

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years or whatever and just shake my head like did

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that really happen to me? Like, you know, it's so

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far fetched that it's hard to even believe it happened

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to me myself. I mean, it's just surreal. If you

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were to say, hey, Peter, let me tell you about

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seeing you know, the three Pig cartoon characters on the woods,

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I mean, you know, I'd be like, Okay, Jeremi always right, right.

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Have you ever seen anything that even comes close to

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what you saw that day? No, so no representation of

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it is even close.

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I mean, yeah, Bigfoot, that's it.

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Well, you know how there's like different versions of it.

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There's like You're Harry and the Henderson's or you know,

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there's the uh the like ones where I let's say,

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like from Exists or or the Patterson Gimlin film version

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or any of those even come close to what you saw.

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Well, I mean, not probably quite as cosmetic looking as

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Harry and the Henderson's, but that would be a pretty

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good representation of it. And really, when I think about

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like some of the emotions, like responding to when I

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started telling that, like, I'll never tell anyone I've seen

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you in I'm just a kid and I want to

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get home. Like some of his like facial expressions were

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kind of like huh, like oh really, I didn't realize that,

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so they it did have like a level of emotion

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to it, or your curiosity at the very least.

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Oh so you think maybe, I mean that could go

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a few ways. Maybe he understood you, or perhaps he

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was just like, what is this little creature making noise now?

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And what's coming out of its mouth? Maybe he was

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just curious at that.

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We don't know, right, Yeah, But regardless if it was

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curiosity or empathy or what I mean, it wasn't just

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like you know, one of my cats, which was one

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hundred percent instinct. You know, it was there was some

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level of restraint or you know, empathy or empathy you know,

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towards me and probably my bawling. And I know I

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often think a lot like I wonder if like shedding

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them tears saved me that day, you know, like if

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I would have been more stoic, might I never have

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been heard from again? You analyze it every way, almost

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every day of your entire life, and you know, try

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to think back in certain little things that you might

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have missed, and you're overanalyzed parts of it. I mean,

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the fact of it. You know, my encounter was pretty intense.

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I mean that the thing was fourteen sixteen feet away

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from me for fifteen minutes. Yeah, not super dramatic, but

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it was pretty traumatizing still is. I don't think I've

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ever had a nightmare over it or anything like that.

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But I'll tell you when I go camping boy, like

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if I hear a fraud movement, I'm you know, like, ooh,

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what is that?

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Right?

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Yeah, obviously they're real, and I mean I know that

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without a doubt. So I mean, I know they're out there,

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and that one put it past one and come visit campers,

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you know, like they reportedly do.

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Did it have an older look to it or a

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younger look or did you get any feel for the

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age of it at all?

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To me, it looked like it was like what a

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forty or fifty year old human would look like. Sure,

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like it had like the what I truck to be

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is like beginning crows feet, because I reflected back on

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that thousands of times too, and then based on like

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the roughness looking look of the teeth, and yeah, it

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looked like it had some seasoning to it.

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In in the Tomahawk area. It sounds like you've never

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heard any other stories of anyone seeing a big foot

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in that area?

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Uh not? The Bigfoot, but the a couple of dog

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Man stories I kind of briefly talked about it. There

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is also a guy like twenty five miles north of Tomahawk,

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like two decades ago, was driving back from Monaca, which

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is a resort town, and got to a highway named

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Highway K and dog Man ran out in front of

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his car and he started the Northern Wisconsin dog Man

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Research Center or something like that. I'm not sure what

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it is, but it's up there. But other than that Bigfoot, Nope,

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Like I'm the only one that I know of. There

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are sightings like sixty miles northwest of Tomahawk that have

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been on podcasts, like in Phillips, but I've never never

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heard of any other ones in Tomahawk.

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So sometimes we talk about dog Man. If it comes

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up organically, I don't go out out and pursue it

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just because, to be honest, it freaks me out a

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little bit. But since you brought it up, are these

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what kind of interactions were these? Were these like pretty

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wild ones.

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Or okay, yeah, well I'll actually just tell it, okay

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this one time. God Anyway, So when my sister walked

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up at that cook on, she said, telling your big

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foot story. And I was like ready to strangleer. I'm like, yo,

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got up. She didn't think I'm crazy, and then looked

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at me and could see like my reluctance, and she goes, oh,

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don't worry if you have a big encounter. I believe

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you because I've had a dog man encounter. So come

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to find out, she starts telling me about her dog

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man encounter. When you turn on Highway OH, and I

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told you Highway E goes like twenty seven miles, you know,

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to the left, Highway OH is four four and a

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half miles long. There's one road off of that road

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that's like a quarter mile dirt body called Bellevue Road.

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So starting to tell me the story, and I go,

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where was this and she said off of Bellevue And

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I said, oh, that's interesting because my big foot in

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Conor was, you know, a quarter mile away from Bellevue Road.

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When I got to that guy's quantit hut, the start

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of it was like two and a half miles down.

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So I go, will tell me about your dog man.

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Now again, I'm kind of going just off memory, but

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she said when they moved out to Bellevue, a neighbor

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come up to her and said, hey, keep a close

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eye on who was like a nine year old and

453
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.400
and was like, well, what what's up with that? And

454
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.759
he went get into it. He said, just keep an

455
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.359
eye on him. We're on the woods, you know. So

456
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.559
she moves in. They get settled in. A month or

457
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.599
two later, it was pretty early after they'd just gotten there,

458
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.759
got dropped off the school bus and he came flying

459
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.440
in the front door, slammed the door and started bawling,

460
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.240
and she said, what's wrong? And he told her that

461
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.480
a werewolf chased him after the school bus left up

462
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:13.359
the driveway. So she kind of attributed it, you know,

463
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:19.759
to overzealous imagination and just said, oh, well, I'm sorry, honey,

464
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.720
you know, like, okay, wear a wolf whatever. So weeks

465
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.119
later she decided to put in the garden. She rode

466
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.279
the till of the garden and she said it was

467
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.920
close to the woodline. She started rolled a taill in

468
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.920
this area for the new garden she was putting in,

469
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.680
and she said she kept smelling like sewer smell. So

470
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.880
she's like out there for a week and sometimes she

471
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.720
smells it, you know, half the time she does halftimes

472
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.400
she doesn't but she started thinking, like, my neighbor septic

473
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.480
must be backed up. So whatever, she just went on

474
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.119
with her life. Well, within a day or two, she

475
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.640
was doing dishes and the sink, and the sink overlooks

476
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.759
the back yard, and she said she happened to raise

477
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.319
her head and looked on the woodline. She said there

478
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:10.519
was a werewolf standing or a dog man, and she

479
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.720
said that when she looked up, she could tell that

480
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:17.440
it locked eyes with her. And when that happened, when

481
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:21.319
that eye connection was made, she said, it sprung down

482
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.720
to its knees and put its hands on the knees

483
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:27.440
and jumped so high up in the air. She said

484
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.519
it had to be thirty feet high up in the air,

485
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:34.039
back into the woodline and was just gone. So at

486
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.839
that point she knew that story her nine year old

487
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.000
was true. So she's like, Okay, now I'm like super

488
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.960
freaked out, and she goes, I feel like a terrible

489
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.240
parent because told me about it. I was just like, yeah, whatever,

490
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.960
and now this thing is really out here. So shortly

491
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.440
after that incident, they started having it on her roof

492
00:29:55.480 --> 00:30:00.640
of her trailer. Then doorn I'm shaking, started tapping on

493
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.559
the windows and she said she'd literally seen the claws

494
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:09.839
tapping on the window, which would be like tricky, terrifying

495
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:16.000
if you asked me. Well, and the doorknob thing happened

496
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.920
like every night. So at this point in the story,

497
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:23.039
her ex husband, who is like a sixty year old

498
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.000
zezy top beard, you know, biker with the chain wallet

499
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.480
and the greasy blue jeans, comes walking up upon her

500
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.839
telling me the story, and he goes, yeah, he goes,

501
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.920
I thought she was crazy, like she's talking about there's

502
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.559
a werewolf, and Butrid was telling me sheased by a werewolf.

503
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.720
And I'm sitting there thinking like, man, these people have

504
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.519
lost their minds, Like, my kid's crazy. But he's a biker,

505
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.359
he's a gun a fishing on us. So she said

506
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.160
we would just come out here and spend the weekend.

507
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.559
So he said he brought his twelve gauge and like

508
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.559
the three fifty seven. And now he's telling this story

509
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.799
and he goes, I'll be we're not sitting there, and

510
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.519
he goes, something start jiggling the doorknob, and he goes,

511
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.839
I'm looking right at the doorknob, and you know, kind

512
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.599
of telling me like he thinks it's a prank or

513
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:13.319
you know whatever, and he goes, but then I heard

514
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.640
it jump up on the roof and started running across

515
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:16.039
the roof.

516
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.400
Pigs for a SOCIETYHO will be right back after these messages.

517
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.559
So he runs off the back patio, you know, with

518
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.000
the twelve gauge whatever, with probably a flashlight take to

519
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:46.119
it or something, and he's seen it just leap off

520
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:50.680
the backside of the building. So they got out of

521
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:55.839
there within months of that. But during this time, getting

522
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.680
back to that road, Highway Eve goes twenty seven miles

523
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.759
to the Highway Old or four and a half miles

524
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.039
to the Rite. A guy named lived five miles up

525
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.480
Highway E from where I turned to go on Highway home,

526
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.160
found out about having a dog man issue, and he

527
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.880
had been having a dog man looking in their cabin

528
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.519
window that him and his dad you know shared still

529
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.160
sitting there listening to it, but reaffirmed, you know, that

530
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.039
there was something out there. So I'm like pretty intrigued

531
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.079
at this point. He called her and he said, Hey,

532
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.359
this thing's been looking in my window like every night now,

533
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.480
and he said, I'm going to go kill the thing.

534
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:43.359
And next morning they found car keys and wallet. Now

535
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.559
keep in mind this is seven miles out of town

536
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.559
now on the countertop and was never seen again. It's

537
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:55.839
been I think thirteen years now. The guns are missing everything.

538
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.200
He just disappeared. They've had one of my body. Hez

539
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:06.319
owns an insurance company here, and he's taken out sent dogs,

540
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:12.279
cadaver dogs all over that property and they went, you know,

541
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.559
searching for the body, like every three years, they go

542
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.400
out there with dogs and do you know, massive searches.

543
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:23.839
And so that's the second part of it. Now, three

544
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:29.519
years ago, a man named just got his third drunk

545
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:36.000
driving ticket. This guy's probably four hundred pounds, drove a scooter,

546
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:41.640
lived two and a half miles from where my encounter occurred,

547
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.200
like nine miles away from where it disappeared thirteen years ago,

548
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.799
and like five miles away from where was having her

549
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:55.599
dog man issue. He gets the third drunk driving gets

550
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.799
out of jail, gets a ride home. This guy like

551
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.759
barely watt He lives like seven miles out of town,

552
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.320
fifty yards back on the little gravel driveway with a

553
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.880
house with a barn, and to get his mail and

554
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.079
the end of the driveway he parks is picked up

555
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.119
right next to the steps of the house. And he'll

556
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.679
get in that truck, drive the you know, thirty yards

557
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.039
or whatever it is to the mailbox, grab the mail

558
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.679
back the truck back up. That's how you know infirm

559
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.880
he is. So he went back home and then the

560
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.920
mailman started noticing the mail was piling up, so he

561
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.159
looked into it and called the cops, and the cops

562
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:42.079
went out. There no sign it, no credit card activity

563
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.639
he was on, like food Share. There's no food Share

564
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:52.480
activity on his card, just disappeared without a trace. Oh wow,

565
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.639
And who knows. I mean, that's that's speculative as to me,

566
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.119
trying to pin that onto a cryptod. But when you

567
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:03.880
think about it, Wheremiah Like, all these these four incidents

568
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.199
happened within less than ten miles of each other. And

569
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.360
then the last instance I'm going to talk about is

570
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.000
in the seventies, a kid that I went to school with,

571
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:18.280
his name was They had a farm out there too,

572
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.519
probably another five miles distant, and his brother went missing

573
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:26.119
like forty years ago, and they said he was just

574
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.440
in the house and next thing we know, we couldn't

575
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.199
find him anywhere. And they were like trying to pin

576
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.639
that on thinking he did something to his brother and

577
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.559
that kid. No one seemed him for like forty or

578
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:44.360
forty five years, So that's just another five miles away

579
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.920
from there. So the chance that like three people would

580
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.920
come up missing in that small proximity with no clues

581
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.440
whatsoever other than hearsay of like dog man talk is

582
00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:59.360
beyond coincidence in my eyes.

583
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.480
The scary thing is going to be, Pete, is that

584
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.960
there's going to be people with more too. Yeah, always happens.

585
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.440
There's gonna be more from this town. I guarantee it.

586
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.360
Oh my goodness, this is this is really weird.

587
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:18.920
Hmmm, like really like Jeremiah. I called the deputy sheriff

588
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:21.519
like a year a year and a half ago in

589
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.800
Lincoln County here and he was like the homicide guy,

590
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.199
And I go, man, are you ready for like a

591
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.960
stupid story? And he's like, well, I don't know, you

592
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.880
know what's ptaying too? So I go just here, I

593
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.239
need you just to hear me out. And I probably

594
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.559
told the story twice as fast as I did you,

595
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.840
you know, just to get to a brief synopsis of

596
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.400
it or whatever engage his opinion. And when I got done,

597
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:50.159
he literally said, you're crazy, wow. And I'm like, well, dude,

598
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.519
like there isn't like really any homicides up here. So

599
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.199
I'm pretty sure you're not that swamp. Like, why don't

600
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.599
you open your mind? You just kind of look into it?

601
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:01.000
Yeah?

602
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:06.679
Oh man, wow, uh you said there were so you

603
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:11.000
there's definitely a few missing people, and man, I wonder

604
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.159
how crazy it gets. I wonder if there's people that

605
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.840
have encountered portals like out in the woods and we're

606
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.639
just like they walk through something that feels electric, you know,

607
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.280
things like that or I don't know, m yeah, we'll see.

608
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:29.519
Yeah, but there's certainly you know, of course I follow

609
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:33.920
you know, Colate's right, you know, Missing for one one

610
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:40.639
and other channels and stuff like Bigfoot Society and Sasquatch Chronicles.

611
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:46.559
That's you. Obviously, I'm pretty selective with what I choose,

612
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:51.599
But like that portal whole thing, Like as bizarre as

613
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:57.239
that sounds, it sounds more you know, palatable all the time,

614
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:03.159
because there's obviously something getting people. You know, maybe nine

615
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:04.960
out of a ten of them will be found fifteen

616
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.440
twenty years from now, but man, there's still people missing

617
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:08.800
from one hundred years ago.

618
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:09.960
Wow.

619
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:15.039
You know that nobody's ever stumbled upon or you know,

620
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.559
came across out in the woods or you know, like

621
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.960
a belt buckling, some old leather shoes or something, and

622
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.199
so yeah, I don't know if it's a portal or

623
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.599
if it's bigfoot dog man and they just chew every

624
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.719
boone down, you know, nothing or what it is. But

625
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.039
like where do these people's clothes go?

626
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:38.400
Then?

627
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.760
Mm hmm man, Yeah, Lincoln County, Wisconsin. Some weird stuff

628
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.639
going on is Rheinlander and Lincoln County too, No, that's

629
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:47.159
o Nida.

630
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:48.480
But it's twenty miles away.

631
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:49.840
Yeah, so it's not that far away.

632
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:52.159
No, it's really close.

633
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:52.920
Wow.

634
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.360
Oh man, Pete, I'm so glad that you reached out

635
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.960
to me, because this one was I didn't even reach

636
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.840
out to you. You just randomly, you know, filled out

637
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.800
the the form. And I'm glad you did because this, uh,

638
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.559
this could really lead to some interesting things. But I'm

639
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:11.559
glad that you got the opportunity to to share what

640
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.679
happened to you way back then with your sighting.

641
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.920
Though well, I appreciate telling it to where I know

642
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.239
ninety nine out of one hundred people ain't gonna say

643
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:22.719
I'm a maniac.

644
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:22.440
So.

645
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.559
Yes, sir, and and if anything else, uh, you ever

646
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.320
run into anything else or hear anything else strange up there,

647
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.599
definitely feel free to reach out and and let me

648
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:35.480
know what's going.

649
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.719
On, well, like if there's an update or anything like that.

650
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.039
I certainly won't. And you know, one of the last

651
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.719
thing I kind of wanted to say is of the

652
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:49.960
thousands of times that I pondered, you know, this sighting

653
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.320
and you know, like how it could live up here,

654
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.440
and you know, like the bear skin and the sparse hair.

655
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:57.440
I mean it had a lot of hair, but you know,

656
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.079
like a lot of guys like how back hair that's

657
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.920
like out of control. It was kind of more like that.

658
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.039
So I don't know if they put on more hair

659
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.880
for the winter months or you know.

660
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:10.079
Or what.

661
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.000
And there certainly is an abundance of you know, berries

662
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.280
everywhere there's raspberries and you know, blackberries and everything, like

663
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.079
anywhere in the woods you want here there's berries and

664
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.480
certainly loads of deer and you know, small game. But

665
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.079
I don't know, to me, like it just seems weird

666
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:37.239
that a creature granted a bear a deer. I mean, yeah,

667
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.119
we know about them, but that a creature would literally

668
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.719
choose to live up in this environment because the winters

669
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:47.920
get pretty brewed off here, you know, and what they

670
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.039
I mean, like the amount of hair I seen on

671
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.960
this thing, like it just seems impossible it could have

672
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.400
stayed warm, you know, in the winter time because it's

673
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:05.400
just like human skin, you know, just greater. Oh yeah, yeah,

674
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:06.679
so I guess that's the last thing.

675
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.559
Man, all right, Pete, Well we'll see where this leads.

676
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.719
This is a very interesting one and listeners got some

677
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.119
pretty crazy dog man stuff out of it too. So

678
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:21.639
there you go, guys. But I appreciate you calling in, Pete.

679
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.480
Yeah, Jeremiah, I appreciate it. Luting me and thanks you

680
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:25.360
everyone for hearing me.

681
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:32.679
Have a good one you too. All right, big Foot Society,

682
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:35.119
You've got the privilege of talking to Rick tonight. Rick

683
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.559
is a listener from Warren County, Ohio, and he's got

684
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:44.639
some interesting things that happened to him earlier. And it's

685
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:45.679
a pleasure to talk to you.

686
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:46.079
Rick.

687
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:46.760
How's it going.

688
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.119
It's great, great weather here in Ohio.

689
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:56.159
Oh absolutely same here in Iowa, which is I mean

690
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.760
last week was a little bit too hot during the state,

691
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:01.800
but right now pretty good.

692
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:02.599
Rick.

693
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.119
It's a pleasure to have you on the podcast. I

694
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.880
know We've been meaning to talk for a little bit

695
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.119
of time, so I'm going to go ahead and pass

696
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.760
things right over to you, and yeah, feel free to

697
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.599
share what you have experienced.

698
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:27.920
Okay. Well, like a lot of people did listen to you,

699
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:34.960
your fans, I really got I'm interested in bigfoots and

700
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.920
UFOs back in the early seventies with the in Search

701
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:49.159
of program and the Patterson Gimblin film and so, you know, I, I,

702
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.639
like I guess a lot of people back then, I

703
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.880
had to go to the library and so I read

704
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.320
books as many as I could. And you know, I

705
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:03.119
was probably twelve thirteen years old at that time, and

706
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.119
I was really into it at that age. But you know,

707
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.440
getting into high school and in college and in professional life,

708
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.719
I you know, really I paid attention to it, but

709
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:20.840
I had other priorities and never lost interest in it.

710
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:31.400
But with YouTube and the proliferally proliferation of videos and

711
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:37.960
podcasts and things like that, it rekindled that interest. And

712
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.920
I've you know, I listened to this stuff on a

713
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:51.880
daily basis. I live in an area that was exclusively

714
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:59.000
farm land up to fifty sixty years ago. It's in me.

715
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.760
I can say the I seventy five corridor between Cincinnati

716
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:09.519
and Dayton. But as time has passed, it's it's been

717
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.760
built up mostly with residential housing. And you know, there's

718
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:22.960
kind of a ten mile you know, housing built around

719
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.039
Ice seventy five, just just because of the transportation, and

720
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.400
a lot of people here either work in Cincinnati or Dayton,

721
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:39.199
so they travel back and forth. I live on the

722
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:46.880
last part of my grandfather's farm. It's been in the

723
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.039
family for about one hundred and forty years. And this area,

724
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:58.880
like other areas around here, is being built up with

725
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:06.400
residential housing, but there still remains a lot of woodlots,

726
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.880
a lot of farm fields, a lot of water, water sources,

727
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:20.960
plentiful deer on this particular property. I've seen all kinds

728
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:26.559
of animals and birds, uh, plenty of deer, plenty of coyotes, fox, uh.

729
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:33.199
But I never really thought, uh, you know, anything what

730
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.400
happened to me could happen in this area. So I'll

731
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:41.760
tell you what happened. It was. I'm in the security

732
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:42.519
business now.

733
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.639
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

734
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.519
I spent.

735
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.559
Sixteen years near me, fourteen of that in special operations,

736
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.039
and then after that I was a police officer for

737
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:18.280
twenty two years, seventeen of that in SWAT operations, and

738
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:26.239
I was predominantly a sniper. So I'm now in my sixties.

739
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:33.039
I'm insecurity work. So April thirteenth, get off at eleven thirty,

740
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:37.480
always making home right before midnight, so I think it

741
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.280
was a I think it was actually about eleven fifty

742
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:46.239
eight at night, driving the driveway. Got out of my

743
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:48.840
car like I usually do, and my habit is that

744
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:50.679
I just go to the rear of my car and

745
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.239
I just stand and I listen to what's going on

746
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.280
in the woods and you know here if I can

747
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.760
if there's any animal activity. Well, I was standing there,

748
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:09.280
I was facing east, and I looked up in the

749
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.679
sky and I see something that appears round and as

750
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:20.320
an orange reddish hue to it, and I immediately think

751
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:25.599
it must be Mars. But it surprises surprises me because

752
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:30.360
it appears larger than I would expect Mars to appear,

753
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:35.920
and so I don't see any movement, I don't see

754
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:43.199
any change in the light intensity. I stand there at

755
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.519
three four minutes, probably watching this thing, and at the

756
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:51.440
same time, back in the woods, I hear this, not

757
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:57.559
these knocking sounds with an owl sound right after another.

758
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:02.880
There's like four off knocks and then an alcohol and

759
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:07.920
this is repeated. I'm gonna say five to six times.

760
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.000
So after and I'm thinking a bit more about what

761
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:20.639
I'm looking at instead of what I'm hearing. But I

762
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:22.840
thought at the time, I thought, I don't know if

763
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.320
any owls or any animals that knock not around here.

764
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.440
So after watching this object and nothing, nothing is changing.

765
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.320
Something to go inside. But I know there's an important detail,

766
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:42.960
and that is I don't see any stars. I look

767
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.480
around the sky and my view is partially hidden due

768
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.039
to mature trees, but I don't see any stars in

769
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:55.360
the sky. And I'm I'm inside now and I'm talking

770
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:02.400
to my piance and I'm telling her what I'm seeing

771
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.119
and hearing, and she said, you need to go outside

772
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:09.880
with the binoculars and look at that thing again. I said, yeah,

773
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.159
you're right, I do. So I grab my binoculars and

774
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:18.679
go out. It's gone nowhere to be seen, and still

775
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:24.519
no stars. So how was I seeing Mars? But there's

776
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:27.880
no stars? So I come back inside. I look on

777
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.119
the internet and I say, okay, where's the position of Mars?

778
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.480
Based upon my location. I look it up, tells me

779
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:40.880
a direction. The direction is different than what where I

780
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.840
saw this object. I saw this object due east and

781
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.440
using a horizontal finger technique I learned in the army,

782
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.199
it was about forty degrees above the horizon. You know,

783
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.880
it's a nonstretched arm with fingers horizontal. Each finger is

784
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.440
about ten degrees so it's about forty degrees perfect, but

785
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:07.199
it's it's good for general idea. So I come back

786
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:12.119
inside and I had taken a picture of it and

787
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:24.719
a video of this object. So I enlarge the photo twice,

788
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.800
and much of my surprise, it reveals an object that

789
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.920
is generally rectangular in shape, and it has angles and

790
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:41.000
streap lines in it, and it has its kind of

791
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:46.440
coronal white filaments coming around it. But I think that

792
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.320
it is more due to the enlargement process and the

793
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.400
type of camera I was using. It was just a

794
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.920
cell phone camera, so I can't actually say that that

795
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:06.599
white the white filaments were part of the the object. So,

796
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.239
you know, come back inside, start talking about it again

797
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:16.039
with my fiance, and she's very curious. She's very interested

798
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:23.599
in this subject too, So I decided the next day

799
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:29.000
I'm going to report it to move on. So I

800
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:33.000
do write a written report, send it. I don't hear

801
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:36.639
anything from them, Okay, that's fine with me. I don't care.

802
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:43.400
But I get to think more about the sounds. The

803
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.880
sounds I've just never heard anything like that in the

804
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.280
woods in Ohio. And I've spent a fair amount of

805
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:55.079
time in the woods, did some hunting, did a lot

806
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:00.519
of camping. Can't call myself an expert on Ohio fauna

807
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:09.880
or flora, but I'm pretty familiar. So I look up

808
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:15.199
if there are any UFO reports in my county, or

809
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:21.840
possibly Clinton County, which was the direction I was looking. Nothing.

810
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.679
I'm thinking I can't beame the only person that saw this,

811
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.239
but there are no reports that I see, so okay.

812
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:40.199
It was about a week later that I'm watching a videos.

813
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.519
It's a video taken from an Navy FA Team super

814
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:49.559
hornet flying off the USS Theatre Roosevelt back in two

815
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.639
thousand and four. This was taken I think, off to

816
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.800
our southeastern coast, somewhere like South Carolina or Florida. And

817
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:05.079
I'm watching this and it's from the camera taken by

818
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.440
the pilot, and I see something that looks really familiar,

819
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.559
and I'm like whoa, Let's let's let's wind that back

820
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.199
a little bit. So I wind it back, started up again,

821
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.639
and I freeze it, and I'm like, oh my gosh,

822
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:26.199
that looks almost exactly what I saw. Like I really

823
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:33.320
saw the ufl uh never in my wildest imagination, and

824
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.000
I think I would get out of my car, look

825
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.519
east and see a UFO, but it happened. So as

826
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:43.800
time goes by, I really started thinking about the sounds,

827
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:51.079
and so I look up on the owls that live

828
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.880
in Ohile, because I hear great horned owls all the time,

829
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.639
especially in the fall early winter. So the ones I

830
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:04.880
can member screech owl, bart ol, barn owl, horned al,

831
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:10.199
I think there is sawweeed owl, but I know. I

832
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:14.719
got on hotmail or not hotmail, but uh YouTube and.

833
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.400
Listened to the various owl calls, and what it most

834
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.440
closely resembled to me was the barred owl. Now, as

835
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:32.400
time has gone by and I've heard witness accounts of

836
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:41.039
their encounters, I've heard barn owl calls or mimicking mentioned

837
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.719
a couple of times, and I thought that was that's

838
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.480
kind of that's pretty interesting.

839
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.440
To me at the time, listening to the actual the

840
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:57.480
the YouTube audio of a barred owl. It was very close,

841
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.400
but to me and my memory it didn't wasn't exact.

842
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:09.000
I could be wrong. What also struck me about this

843
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:19.199
these repetitive sounds the wood knocking. It did not sound

844
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:25.679
like a branch being struck against a tree or anything

845
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:31.000
like that. Based upon the tone, the consistency of the sound.

846
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:36.960
It sounded more like two machined pieces of wood that

847
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:41.280
were finished. And I immediately thought, okay, it could it

848
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:45.280
be like two baseball bats or being struck together something

849
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.119
like that, or clava's Are you familiar with the clav

850
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:54.760
it's a percussion instruments. Yes, And it sounded it had

851
00:55:54.800 --> 00:56:00.159
that kind of ringing, that resonance to it that a

852
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:07.480
branch would not have or a tree wouldn't have. So

853
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:13.760
that got me more curious, and nobody thought, I'm looking

854
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:19.239
for alternative explanations. You know, somebody some percussionists out there

855
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:24.480
hitting very large closets or baseball pats together. And I thought, nah,

856
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.519
very very unlikely, and.

857
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:37.000
It would take a percussionist because there there was a

858
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:44.119
precision in this, the repetitiveness, from repetition to repetition of

859
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:47.159
the sounds it was.

860
00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:50.960
There was a preciseness of it there was. The volume

861
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:57.239
stayed the same, the tone stayed the same, the space

862
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.400
between the sounds stayed the same. Now, I wish I

863
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.960
had a spectrum analyzer, and you know, I could have

864
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.800
recorded that and looked at it, you know, that way,

865
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.639
But it didn't have one in my back pocket.

866
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:19.480
So I heard these these grouped sounds probably five to

867
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:24.000
six times, and there was no distinct difference in the

868
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:28.159
space between the knocks and the barred a'l call.

869
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.360
And that's what I'll call it, because I have nothing

870
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:40.440
else to call it. That's what it resembled. So the

871
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.639
more I've listened to people talk, the more I've rolled

872
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:49.920
this around in my brain, and it made me do

873
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.880
a lot of thinking. Excuse me.

874
00:57:53.840 --> 00:58:00.639
So then I looked on the BFR website, and you know,

875
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.400
for a sidings map, looked at the sidings in Ohio

876
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:09.559
and the listings of sidings in the counties I'm much

877
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:13.559
to my surprise, there I think five sidings since twenty

878
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.960
fourteen in my county.

879
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:22.079
And these were they not necessarily seeing a bigfoot, but

880
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:28.760
hearing rocks clacking together, wood knocks, and I know of

881
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:35.000
I can remember at least one visual It is a

882
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:40.960
little further south than where I live, about ten fifteen miles.

883
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:51.679
In those areas, it's a significant forest for them to hide.

884
00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:03.840
So I made a report to BFRORO. Didn't hear from them.

885
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:10.599
It doesn't matter. But so the more I've gone through

886
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:16.280
this process of analyzing this, I have become more and

887
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.800
more convinced that that was a big foot that was

888
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:25.880
making the sounds. Now, another line of investigation that I

889
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:31.840
went on was I have heard from people that on

890
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:37.480
on on the podcast that many times UFOs are the

891
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:41.440
sightings are related to or in conjunction with bigfoot sighting.

892
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:47.199
So I looked up how many what's were kind of percentage,

893
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:50.800
and the number I saw was thirty percent, which was

894
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:56.719
really surprising to me. That's a huge number. And even

895
00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:02.639
if it was five percent, that number is significant. So,

896
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:09.559
you know, I thought, what's the connection here? Uh, inter

897
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.880
dimensional being? You know, my mind is just opened up

898
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:20.320
to a variety of things. Although I'm there's there's a

899
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.199
rational mind and then there's the emotional mind, and I'm

900
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:28.280
trying to separate those two things, and you know, trying

901
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:34.239
to operate on evidence and not might not let my

902
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:40.119
emotions get too involved with this. So then I began

903
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:47.960
researching what other are there other cryptids sightings in this

904
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:56.719
area and not really And I found something back in

905
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:00.280
eighteen ninety or eighteen eighty two that was public in

906
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.719
the Western Star. It's a newspaper back then of a

907
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.559
some kind of lizzard monster that was sighted by boys.

908
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.440
And it's a little ville. It's just north of Waynesville.

909
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.119
The men of the area chased this thing into a

910
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:20.159
tree and it popped out of the tree at the top.

911
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.960
It was hollow as a sycamore tree, and it scampered

912
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.280
away with the local men chasing it went down a

913
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:27.480
hole and it's never seen again. It was the only site.

914
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:36.039
But thinking back my life around here, my family's been

915
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:40.880
around here a long time. Something that I had heard

916
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:45.440
when I would say, it's just after my senior year

917
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:53.840
in high school, I was working at a Denny's as

918
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:58.440
a dishwasher and people were a couple of people were

919
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:03.119
talking about some monster at that supposedly was living over

920
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:09.480
by Caesar's Creek Stayed Park, and I got me interested.

921
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.920
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

922
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:36.559
And so one night, it was probably July of nineteen

923
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:38.760
seventy eight, took my girlfriend.

924
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:41.239
She picked me up in her little Mercury Capri and

925
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.599
we went over there. And I really didn't know the roads.

926
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:49.039
They were driving around in the dark, not knowing where

927
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:57.440
we're going, okay, and so she makes it turn, she

928
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:02.000
gets stuck, She panics, she starts, and a cry. Well,

929
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:05.760
you know, we had to go home. I didn't want

930
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:10.119
an upsetter, but I thought, maybe thinking back on that

931
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.760
that was possibly a potential bigfoot sighting people had seen

932
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:18.960
back in seventy eight, and that may be a stretch,

933
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:27.000
I don't know, but that in a way supported the

934
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.599
hypothesis that Bigfoot is in this area along with the

935
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:37.960
other sidings, which made my experience easier to believe in

936
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:46.079
my view that it was a potentially Bigfoot. I've been

937
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:51.800
out the last three nights sitting outside after work, you know,

938
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.760
it's after midnight, one on one o'clock, and just listening

939
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:59.079
and they're such a the cicadas and the crickets are

940
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:03.000
so loud. I can heard hear anything else. I heard

941
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:06.480
something i'll call a couple of nights ago, but there's

942
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:12.320
nothing at this time. So you know, that's that's what

943
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:19.599
I got for. You did you did you find those photos?

944
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:23.960
I did, and so I'm looking at the The outline

945
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:28.559
of both of them is so similar. It's it's incredible

946
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:33.280
how similar it is. It's yeah, definitely like it's got

947
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.519
to be the same object, there's no doubt.

948
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:41.920
Yeah, maybe maybe not the same object, but the same kind.

949
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:43.880
Of object exactly exactly.

950
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.079
Now we we have Red Peterson Air Force Base. It's

951
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.679
it's probably eighteen miles north of us, and if they're

952
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.760
man made, you know, that's that's a potential place where

953
01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:01.039
it could have flown to or from. H I don't

954
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.960
know how long had it been there sitting. I don't

955
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.320
know why it chose that spot, you know. Thinking about

956
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:12.280
the range it was, I'm pretty good at ranging on

957
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:16.360
land because it was a sniper, but in the air

958
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:18.760
and not knowing the size of the object it was,

959
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:25.519
it's really impossible boom it. My wild guess would be

960
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.639
it was it was five to eight plumeters away or

961
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:37.239
three to five miles, And yeah, it's kind of crazy.

962
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:40.599
Nothing for sixty four years of my life and then

963
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:42.480
all of a sudden boom.

964
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:52.199
The vocalizations that to me is just as weird as

965
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.800
you've seen something in the sky because you're saying there's

966
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:58.599
a pattern to the wood hits, then what sounds like

967
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:02.280
an owl and that pattern of wood hits, and then

968
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:07.400
the owl noise repeated five to six times. You said, yes,

969
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:08.840
that's weird.

970
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.599
Have you heard anything like that before?

971
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:20.119
Well, I mean there's usually as.

972
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:24.320
Your guests allude to anything like that before, not like.

973
01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:29.679
Not exactly the same. But I am curious if the

974
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:33.639
owl noise that you heard was was there anything weird

975
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.199
about it? Like sounded really really big, or like almost

976
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.039
like something was trying to do an owl noise but

977
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.400
didn't know what it was doing and it just fell

978
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.119
off when you were listening to it.

979
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.920
Well, it wasn't louder than the other sounds. I mean,

980
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:53.960
I'm going to guess at the range, and I was

981
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:57.920
trying to kind of range how far this sounds are

982
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:01.159
coming from. It was off. It was over my left shoulder,

983
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:06.159
and there's a lake there over my shoulder about t

984
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:11.199
twenty five yards and it's kind of hilly surrounding this lake,

985
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.800
so sounds kind of bounce off the hills and it

986
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:22.159
I'm not sure exactly how far away it was, but

987
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.960
I'm going to guess between one hundred and one hundred

988
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:30.559
and fifty yards and it sounded like it was on

989
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:40.000
the north side of the lake. And something I want

990
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:44.480
to make clear it was the volume of each sound

991
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:52.280
was the same essentially that includes the owl call. There

992
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:56.400
was no appreciable difference that it was louder or softer.

993
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:04.400
There was no base difference between each sound. So it

994
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:10.440
led me to believe that it was two people very

995
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:15.639
much in sync who would rehearse this, or one person

996
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:22.439
very unlikely percussionists who can do an alcohol or a

997
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:31.079
bigfoot and hearing about people are are saying, now that

998
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:33.960
I've heard that big feet are making this sound, they're

999
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:38.920
imitating owls, and the tree knocks are actually not they're

1000
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:41.960
not actually hitting wood, but they're making it with their

1001
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:48.039
mouth and things exactly. And that makes that makes sense

1002
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:54.600
to me in this case, looking at this situation, that

1003
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.039
makes a lot more sense than any other alternative explanation.

1004
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:11.800
Was it. Was there anything involved where sometimes people will

1005
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:16.199
say like, well, imagine you hear a normal owl and

1006
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:22.000
then it's like, uh, a really bad impression of an

1007
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:26.520
owl sound? Did it? Did it actually sound like a

1008
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:27.520
pretty good owl? Though?

1009
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:34.199
Yeah, yeah it did. It just didn't sound like the

1010
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:38.560
part Owl recording exactly. It sounded very much like it,

1011
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:42.000
but not exactly. Now that comes down to, you know,

1012
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:47.880
is there my memory? Did I remember it exactly? I

1013
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:52.479
think I looked up those recordings the next day, but

1014
01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:55.199
they at the time they were they were you know,

1015
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:59.439
just they stuck in my mind, so I know for

1016
01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:04.840
certain it was most closely resembling and now call or

1017
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.039
a barnow.

1018
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:10.000
Yeah, logically it doesn't make sense that you know, you

1019
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:13.159
have that repeating five to six times, and it just

1020
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:19.680
I can't logically explain that away. I mean, I would

1021
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:24.199
be going to the weirder option as well if I

1022
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:29.720
was involved with that. That's just that's just very strange.

1023
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.319
Yeah, we don't have we don't have people in those woods,

1024
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:37.760
this woodlot that we own in the proportion next to us,

1025
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:42.239
their neighbors on there's not people back there. You know,

1026
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:46.720
doesn't mean that somebody wasn't back there that night, but

1027
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:51.600
this is a really an odd place to do that

1028
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:55.279
to try to get attention. There are a lot better places.

1029
01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:00.119
I go over to Caesar's Creek State Park and do

1030
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.720
it out here the campgrounds, but wanted to get attention

1031
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:03.880
not here.

1032
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:11.239
Yeah, that whole area that I know I've heard I've

1033
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:14.159
heard other big there's other Bigfoot stuff that happened in

1034
01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.439
that area. And I know there's UFO stuff. I'm just

1035
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:18.680
not a UFO guy, but I know people all the

1036
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:22.640
time in that community. You're talking about the area around Wright,

1037
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:27.479
Patterson and Dayton, and you know the other areas that

1038
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.239
we've been talking about, And I mean, I wouldn't be

1039
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:34.159
surprised that you've got weird stuff going on. Do you

1040
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:39.840
ever hear any other sounds that just don't really you know,

1041
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.439
they're out of place, or anything well else weird or.

1042
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:51.960
Up until April thirteenth, I really hadn't been paying attention consistently. Yeah,

1043
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:57.239
I I you know, like my habit was, I'd get

1044
01:11:57.239 --> 01:11:58.359
out of the car and give me the back of

1045
01:11:58.399 --> 01:11:59.840
the car and I'd stand there for a minute or

1046
01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:04.079
two and just listen. I didn't hear anything, so I'd

1047
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:08.960
just walk in the house. But since then, I've been

1048
01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:13.600
paying a lot more attention. Actually, I started to do

1049
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:20.439
some banging some rocks together three lines ago, Yeah, just

1050
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:24.239
just to see if I could get any kind of response. Nothing.

1051
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:26.359
And you know, it's so loud back there with the

1052
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:31.039
cicadas and the crickets. Well, well, it's hard for me

1053
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.439
to hear anything. I'm probably sure that take for it.

1054
01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:36.560
We half far time here and get over all the

1055
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:43.800
insect activity. Maybe not, but I think next week fall

1056
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:49.720
comes first frost something like that maybe. And I've also

1057
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:54.520
thought about getting some clobas baseball bats and just banging

1058
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:55.039
them together.

1059
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:56.960
Yeah, I mean.

1060
01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:02.319
Response that way, That's what I'll do after this, at

1061
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:03.520
least insects died down.

1062
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:09.279
It's really interesting and it doesn't come up a lot

1063
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:14.560
on this show. But the whole connection between UFOs and

1064
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:19.520
bigfoot especially, I'm sure you've looked into the Chestnut Ridge

1065
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:23.560
area of southwest Pennsylvania. Have you ever looked into that?

1066
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:25.560
I have not.

1067
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:32.000
Oh, that'll really blow your mind. So look into. There's

1068
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:35.720
a gentleman out there who is collected a lot of

1069
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:39.600
reports to do with UFO and UFOs and bigfoots over

1070
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:45.000
the years, Stan Gordon. It's got some really interesting books.

1071
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.640
But there's a ton of things that happen in the

1072
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:52.319
southwest part of Pennsylvania in an area called Chestnut Ridge,

1073
01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:55.199
and just a lot of really weird things like there'd

1074
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:58.000
be a UFO sighting and then a heavy bigfoot presence

1075
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:02.319
a day or so later, and I want to say

1076
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:06.600
even there were sightings where they were both seen at

1077
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:09.880
the same time. I think that's the thing. I'm sure

1078
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:13.520
people in the comments will will let me know if

1079
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:17.159
that's right or not. But that's a that's an interesting

1080
01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:19.800
If you wanted to kind of look into the connection

1081
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:24.319
between UFOs and Bigfoot, look up the Chestnut Ridge, Pennsylvania.

1082
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.239
Stuff for sure, Okay, I certainly will.

1083
01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:32.800
The thing about this is everything is connected, and there's

1084
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:37.520
going to be there's going to be individuals that come

1085
01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.479
out of the woodwork, and they probably are going to

1086
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:42.680
say that they've been experiencing the same thing in the

1087
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:47.640
same area, and that's really when the fun starts.

1088
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.319
That will be interesting, That would be interesting. You know.

1089
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:57.960
My plan is, I'm just going to I've been hearing

1090
01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:04.920
some sounds over by the way at night, uh you know, splashing, knocking,

1091
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:13.319
It was some muffled that I really couldn't discern what

1092
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:16.439
it was. Then I'm going to go down there in

1093
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:18.439
the woods and at night, I'm going to find a

1094
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:22.399
spot where I can go sit down and possibly I'll

1095
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:24.720
get a visual line on that area and see if

1096
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:29.680
I can spot anything. And I can hear better. But yeah,

1097
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.159
it'll be interesting to see if the other people start

1098
01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:36.359
speaking up putting the maybe we'll get some people who

1099
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:41.319
show the UFO. On April thirteenth, Flick I did. It

1100
01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:45.359
probably would have been in the area of Wainsville, in

1101
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.800
a little village of Littel.

1102
01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:54.199
Okay, cool well, Rick. This has been a fun one

1103
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:57.439
because it's it's not one that I usually go into,

1104
01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:00.359
but it's a good way for me to get more

1105
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:05.720
info in an area that I'm not overly familiar with.

1106
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:09.640
But thank you for sharing about that would weird me

1107
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:12.880
out too, And I hope people that are listening will

1108
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:16.640
reach out to let us know that if they've been

1109
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:21.119
experiencing similar things in the you said Waynesville, Ohio Warren

1110
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:28.399
County area. Yeah, okay, cool Well, it's been a pleasure

1111
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:29.000
talking to you.

1112
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.600
Well, my pleasure, Jeremy. I love your show, keeping up

1113
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:34.199
the good work.

1114
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:38.319
Thanks for hearing me absolutely, and if anything else weird happens,

1115
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.520
please reach out and let me know. I'd be interested.

1116
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:43.600
Yeah, you'll be the first one to know.

1117
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.479
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1136
01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:53.239
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1137
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:42.039
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1138
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:42.640
our stories.

1139
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:45.199
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening.

1140
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.319
That's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will.

1141
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.960
Give them the courage to come out. And I feel

1142
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.199
so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I

1143
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:57.439
know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

1144
01:18:57.479 --> 01:18:58.199
all I care about.

1145
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:18.159
Please let people know. Please let them know. If you

1146
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.319
ever see one of these things, you need to tell

1147
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:24.600
because if you don't, then shame on you. You have

1148
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:37.399
shame on you.