April 20, 2026

What We Saw on Tower Road Still Doesn’t Make Sense! | Washington

What We Saw on Tower Road Still Doesn’t Make Sense! | Washington
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A retired law enforcement officer shares a firsthand encounter from Southwest Washington that has stayed unchanged for over a decade.


On a clear July afternoon near Tower Road, outside Toutle and Silver Lake, Casey and his wife both saw a massive, jet-black figure standing just off the road. In the next instant, it crossed the highway with a speed neither of them can explain and disappeared into open terrain where nothing should have been able to hide.


This account is detailed, grounded, and witnessed by two people at the same moment. The size, the movement, and the complete lack of trace leave questions that still haven’t been answered.


If you’re drawn to real encounters told by credible witnesses, this is one you’ll want to hear all the way through.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,

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all right, pick the Society. I've got the privilege of

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talking to Casey today. Casey is an individual that reached

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out to me about an experience he had up in

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Southwest Washington, and he had heard me on the Blurry

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Creatures show recently. So thank you to those guys for

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having me on to talk about the Ohio Bigfoot flap

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that was going on early March twenty twenty six, and

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Casey was able to reach out. One interesting piece of

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info about Casey Casey does also have prior law enforcement

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years of service there as well, so that might come

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into play. We'll see but Casey, welcome to the show.

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How are you doing today.

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Sir John Grant? Thank you for the for allowing me

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to be on the show.

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Absolutely, and this is such a cool area that we're

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going to be talking about. I mean, is it's wild,

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it's remote, it's out there by Mount Saint Helen's and tootle. Casey,

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is there anything else that you would want the listeners

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to know about yourself for context before we get going?

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So Northwest guy grew up raised and one of those

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that skeptic would be fair to say for sure, even

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though I was in law enforcement, Might.

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I say skeptic of anything such as bigfoot?

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But that said, yeah, that's pretty much my background, retired

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police officer.

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That's awesome.

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Case You feel free to take us back to what

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was going on that day. How you know the year,

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the time of year, and what you guys experienced out

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there north of Tudle in Silver Lake.

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Yep, yep, okay.

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So afternoon, beautiful, sunny, warm day, July of twenty twelve,

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driving along Tower Road, straight stretch, heading out to see

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family and my wife's family. And so I was with

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my wife, my son and his friend and we were

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on a straight stretch, like I said, going around fifty five,

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and this is July of twenty twelve again, and about

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four o'clock in the afternoon. Looking straight ahead, I'm driving

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in literally on the right side, my right giant and

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I would say jet black on two feet creature of

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some sort is standing there, and I'm I'm probably one hundred,

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one hundred and fifty yards away from this thing, just

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looking at it.

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And then.

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Before I could even say anything, all of a sudden,

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it's like a blur.

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This thing just.

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Jets across the highway and in an instant and so

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as I'm like pulling up to this very spot where

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this just vanishes, it's a clear cut to my left,

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and I rolled the windows down just just in thought

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what did I see? And I'm looking into the clear

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cut and I'm stopped on Tower Road and my wife

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literally says, I wish I wouldn't have saw what I

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just saw.

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And I said, oh, I'm so thankful you saw it, because.

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Can you imagine being the only person that sees something

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that you don't know what you saw, but you know

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what it Wasn't this? You know, I've seen deer, I've

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seen ow, I've seen bear, in the wild, I've seen

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you name it, and it was none of those things.

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It was simply unexplainable. And again guessing just in size.

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He was so big, ten plus feet jet block. And

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my wife described this thing as it was. She goes

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someone's like, it's like they pulled the prank on. It's

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like there's this big screen across the whole entire highway

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and they just took the camera and just and the

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projector so to speak, in the film across the screen.

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It was so fast it was it was a blur.

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And and then of the clear cut. I'm just sitting

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there for a good ten plus seconds easy detect nothing.

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I see nothing. And it's like, if it's an animal, I'm.

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Going to see it.

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We're going to see it because it's a clear cut.

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And at this moment, my son, you know, he's like

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he wasn't looking at it, and he and his friend

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were in the back seat, and he's like, don't tell

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the story. People are going to think you guys are

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crazy kind of deal. And and we were already thinking

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that we weren't going to say anything because we didn't

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know what it was, other than to say we know what.

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It absolutely wasn't. And so.

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You know, we collected ourselves and continued on our way

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and literally didn't didn't tell even family when we got

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to where we were going, and told a few, you know,

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select friends here and there over the years, but it

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was just it was crazy. But I can remember just

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like yesterday, and here we are twenty twenty six, and

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this was fourteen years ago, nearly fourteen years you.

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Know, and uh, it's as fresh as then.

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And I told my wife the other day, friendly got

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the nerve to, hey, dar, I'm gonna do this on

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the show, and and she was good with it.

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She was like, yeah, that's that's we saw what we saw.

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We don't know what it was.

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She went so far as to even ask close friends

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who hunt, have you ever seen a bear on two feet?

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You know, she was trying to to explain it, you know,

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as if as if something could move that lightning fast

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and no, no, there's there's no way, there's no such thing.

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She didn't ask if you know they've ever seen.

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Big foot that kind of thing, but but she was

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She's still just it's just so baffling.

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And so.

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That literally was the experience. I mean, it lasted all

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of seconds at most, but it was unmistakable. It was huge,

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absolutely huge, and pitch black and just in it. Tower

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Road at that stretch is a good you know, this

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is a gas thirty plus feet easy wide, probably more,

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and there's plenty of shoulder on each side and and

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uh but this thing just just was jetted just lightning.

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I'm talking lightning speed.

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That is that is so fascinating. And it is in

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an area if you look. I mean, so let's say

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we know Tower roads. So if you're looking at Tower Road,

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I mean you can look at Silver Lake and Tootle

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and that's like, Hi, that's five oh four that goes

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over to Saint Helen's. But like this area that you're

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referring to really goes into that that center area where there,

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I mean, there's roads in there, but it's not like

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you know, major roads like I five or five oh

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four or five oh five. I mean you're in there, right.

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Yeah.

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This yeah, this was this is so where we were

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was a good uh seven plus miles or so off

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of I five up.

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To our road.

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It was the straight stretch just right before that area

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or that that turn.

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There was a house in the distant area to the right. Yeah,

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not on two.

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Far off the road, but but it was literally just

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right next to the road.

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Yeah, so just just mind boggling.

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So we'll talk about Well, I got a few questions

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for you. So you mentioned it was it was, you know,

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just a few seconds of seeing it. You know, I

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guess we could say blurry run across. We'll use the

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word blurry a few times in honor of the guys

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over at Blurry Creatures. So blurred across the road ran

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pretty quick, right, So I love those guys. Yeah, Now,

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did you get a chance to look at it before

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it started running that way across the road? Like, did

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you get a good look at it?

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No? Actually, it was see see this is the this

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is the crazy thing. I mean it was. This thing's

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standing still two feet and just massive.

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And when I went I can't even say it was

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running because I never saw touch the ground.

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It was so just like.

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I wouldn't say an a operation, but kind of you'd

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almost think so, and where did it go? And how

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could it have literally like disappeared? Did it go to ground?

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It didn't go to ground. Again, with my law enforcement background,

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I would have been able to see, you know for sure,

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you know, if this thing's hunting tracking that sort of thing,

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and it just was gone and there was nowhere literally

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for it to go.

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So I didn't get a face, neither did my wife.

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She just we both had the clear vision of its

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standing and then.

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Just just to go back to blur. It was just

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a literal blur across Tower Road. It was crazy, absolutely crazy.

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It really is. You mentioned it was chip black and

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you were estimating ten feet potentially ten feet tall around there.

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Yeah, it was ten feet all day long. It was.

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It was so so giant. You know, I'm a sports guy.

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I've seen athletes that you know, the seven photos, and

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there's nothing. I can't even begin to say. It was

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ten plus. And I say that just because it's again

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a rough estimate, but you know, I'm one hundred and

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fifty yards at least down the highway at a straight

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stretch and you can see this thing. But again going

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fifty five it, I'm closing on it in a second

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and and uh thereabouts, and this thing was easy ten plus.

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I know it sounds crazy that.

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Yeah, So okay, So I mean let's let you mentioned

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your sports guys, So let's say, you know, Shaquille O'Neal

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seven to one. That's what Google says, seven to one,

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but way higher than way bigger.

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Than oh yeah, hundred percent.

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Yeah, that's dwarfed.

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He dwarfed him. The thing was just absolutely massive and giant.

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And you know when when you see any clips of

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you know, what they call Bigfoot, it's you know, they

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show that, they show us lumbering whatever some of the

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stuff you see, and there's this thing moves, so you know,

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instantly wait, like just look, just like my wife said,

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it was a zef A cartoon, like you take the

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cartoon and chose roadrunners, you know, that kind of thing

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just just literally just flash and and uh so I

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I have my suspicions as to what I saw, and

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I can't see natural because there is nothing to explain

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it in the natural that I've ever seen. So take

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take what you will from that, but because physically, what

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can do that. And it was, like I said, it

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was a beautiful clear afternoon and there's just nowhere for

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it to go. And so yeah, and I'm just still

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so thankful my wife saw it, because you know, she's

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school teacher and it's the last thing she would have

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ever wanted to see, honestly, and she saw it and

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she can explain it just the same way.

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As can I. And yeah, gotcha. Now can I ask you?

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Can I ask you a question?

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Yeah?

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Absolutely?

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Have you ever heard of a story anything similar to

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something like this? Because it was it was so I mean,

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it's not like I go around listening to shows. Blurry

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creatures is a who and I just recently caught onto that.

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But it's not like I'm meanto looking for stories like.

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This, right right?

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So have you ever heard of It's interesting? And it

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was something I was going to bring up to is that,

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you know, you listen to your account and one of

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the things that does get brought up sometimes is when

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people people see them move very quickly but very smoothly.

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And something that's brought up a lot is like it

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was so smooth and it was so quick. It was

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almost like it was on cross country skis. It was

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just like it just glided right across. And I want

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to say I have heard a few people saying that

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it just you know, looked blurry as it went across.

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And of course you know that's sometimes the joke too, right,

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Why don't we get any good pictures of bigfoots because

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it's blurry all the time. But so I would say,

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you know, I've heard similar things to how you've described

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the way that it moved across the road. And I

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mean I've even talked to an individual from Pennsylvania where

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let me think, so they were filming they were filming

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the Bigfoot, and the way that they saw on film

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as opposed so they could look down, they could see

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it through the view fi, but they could also look

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at it and it looked different, which is very interesting.

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So I don't know, like if it can, if whatever

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whatever this is and whatever it can do, if it

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can affect the way we're looking at it. Some people

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think that it can affect our eyes and that's why

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it might be blurry because of frequencies. It's a lot

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of a lot of congesture and theories there.

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Right, let me just say this is how quick I

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would say this thing was. So let's it was an

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easy forty yard distance. This thing covered just from where

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it was standing two And this is even being generous

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to in saying only forty yards because it was much

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further than that. But let's say a forty yard distance,

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you get the sprinters for the NFL combines and that

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sort of thing. They're running four a lightning guys for

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two you know, that's four point two seconds.

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This this wasn't even seconds. This was.

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What would it be, Milla, Milla, Milla, you know, not

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even a minute of a second.

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It was.

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It was crazy how fast this thing covered even forty

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yards let alone, it was much further than that into

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this clear cut.

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And so.

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I mean that that is literally what happened. And so

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it wasn't like we saw it take steps.

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It was like.

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This thing was standing, clearly standing, and then in an

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absolute flash, you could just see this blur across that

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highway and then nowhere to be seen. That That's what

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I'm saying it was. And so can that be natural?

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Is that something that we've ever seen in the physic?

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I don't know. I mean, I can't explain it. My

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wife can't explain it.

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I can't think of anything in nature that can move

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that quick.

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I know, I know see that therein lies the challenge

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on the whole thing. It's like, rationally, I it's beyond

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beyond belief. It's just literally beyond belief. And we both

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saw it, and you know, so just just a smidge

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in of my not only was my retired police officer.

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But I'm in higher education as well, so it's not

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like I'm looking to tell a story to create something.

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Here.

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This is, you know, this is literally what what we saw.

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And and and again, just to double down, triple down.

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I'm just so thankful my wife saw it, because try

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to repeat that story to someone and you know you're.

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Going to get the My son's reaction was.

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What it was, but then he knows certainly we saw

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what we saw, because we both did, and he knows

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us obviously. But it does sound crazy. It just sounds crazy.

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Just and just a double check. So they're very very

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short time where you actually saw it standing there and

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then it just blurry went across the road. Was there

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anything that you could see that? You know, sometimes people

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when they try to describe what they're they see, they're like, oh,

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it looked kind of more like some kind of ape

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or monkey, or it looked like a human that was

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hanging out in the woods. Any any weird details like that.

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Yeah, that's a great question. No, there, that's the thing.

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I mean, what you could see, what we could see? Well,

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I'll say what I saw on and my wife she

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would say the same, but just a massive black figure creature.

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And the best I could describe it would be like, yeah,

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apes aren't even that big, so goodness, maybe caricatures of

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what people would say is bigfoot perhaps, But and it

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was standing still. It was literally standing, you know, statue esque,

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you know, for a good you know, it was a

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good second plus easy because we both saw it. I mean,

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it was we were locked in on this thing. You

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could see it, but you couldn't see like a It's

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not like I'm looking, you know, at someone's face fifteen ten, fifteen,

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twenty feet away, you know, which is a frustrating you know,

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you know, and it would be for a listener to

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hear this, But at the same time.

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That's just what we saw.

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And it was definitely a physical being standing there. And

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then just as quick as you can quick and you

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can blink, it's just on.

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And so.

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Because if I would have seen something, you know, in

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the clear, you know, I would have been reaching, reaching

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from my phone even twenty twelve, we had cell phones.

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And uh, just to just to get a snippet.

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And like I said, I sat there for a good

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several ten seconds. There was no traffic behind us or

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in front of us, so we were able to just

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sit there and and uh, you know, it crossed my

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mind at the very moment, could this be what people

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would say is big? But that's what one of the

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reasons I rolled the window down. But not only that

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just to see and hear and smell and whatever, but.

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To experience.

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And plus that's my training, you know, from law Enforce,

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and we always have a window rolled down.

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And it was just crazy. It's crazy.

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That's that's some wild stuff. Could you tell how wide

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across it was?

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Yeah, So in replaying it and at the time that

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that's a great question, I would say it was. It

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was broad and so in comparison to say a shack

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who's probably a good you know, three plus feet three

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and a half.

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This this thing was that and then some So.

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A rough estimate because you got the shoulder where it was,

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you know, off the tower road, so it covered it

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covered a good you know, it was big enough to

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see its girth and I would say, you know, for

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plus feet again that's a that's a rough estimate.

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But it was big. It was wide.

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This wasn't like a you know, you know, minut bowl

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skinny type of thing. This thing was giant, giant.

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So.

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Oh, okay. Sometimes people after they experienced something like this,

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they are really affected in different ways. Did it affect

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you or anyone else in the car? Are in in

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ways that you can think of.

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So what what it did for me was, you know,

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there's something for sure out there, and whether it's natural,

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supernatural one or the other combination of the two.

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I definitely know for sure there's something.

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And I'm not saying it's a bigfoot, because I I

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don't know what it was.

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I just know what it.

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Wasn't and so that I'm certain, absolutely certain of. And

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and my wife would say the exact same thing. So

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it didn't affect us in the way that if it

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would have just been me saying it, I would I

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would be really frustrated.

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I would be like, oh, man, who's going to believe this?

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You know?

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And you know, try to convince yourself of what you saw,

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but but then try to commit yourself you didn't. But

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we know what we saw, and so so that's that, thankfully,

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is you know, blessing so to speak, that we both did,

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and so we both know, but we can't say what

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it was right exactly. We just know we just know

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that that it exists. Whatever it is out there and

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it fits. What I'll say is it definitely fits the

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features of what people would say is Bigfoot. That I

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can definitively say, is it fits what people say, you know,

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in these explanation and caricatures and so forth. But I

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can't definitively say that's what it was. Does that make sense?

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Yeah?

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You know, it really does what it makes you, It

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makes you wonder, you know, if there's a whole theory

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where maybe it's something else and it's it's using a

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form to show itself to us, and sometimes people see

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as alien, sometimes as Bigfoot. That's that's definitely a theory

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that's that's out there. But I've heard it. But did

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anyone get really going down the Bigfoot trail after this

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that was in the car, or like I don't even

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want to hear about Bigfoot again, or just kind of

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you guys were in the middle ground.

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So you know, my wife just kind of kept it

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close to the vest, as did as did I, you know,

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because you know, it was very very selective. I would

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bring her into conversation, you know, if we were talking

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to close friends, like you guys aren't gonna believe what

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we saw and and she would and they'd look at

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her and say, yeah.

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That's what we saw. What do you guys think it was?

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And and you know, we never would just say, oh,

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it's bigfoot.

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We just never have.

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How well, there's consistencies that it is perhaps that's what it,

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you know.

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Based on what you see so or based on what.

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You know.

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Shows chricatures and that sort of thing. But so yeah,

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it uh, you know, it would.

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It would occasionally come up and very very you know,

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because we have friends that live out also in like

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I don't if you're familiar with Rose Valley, which is

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a community in College County and kind of out in

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the woods, so to speak, and and uh, you know,

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and have do we know anybody that's ever seen I've

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only talked to one person that claims that his it.

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Wasn't he himself that saw it. But he's a basketball

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coach college coach in the Northwest, and.

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And a friend of mine, and I told him, he goes,

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he you know, I can believe us.

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He goes my my uncle. He went on to tell

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me his story.

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And and they literally saw one out on a logging road.

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And so that's the only other person that I've ever

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spoken with that, can you know essentially say they had

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to run in with something. Theirs was different because it

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was actually walking. It wasn't like a blur.

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But that said.

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Yeah, two more questions for you, and thank you so

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much for taking some time out of your day to

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share this. Would you want to have a sighting again

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of whatever it was that you saw that day?

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I wouldn't have a problem with it, you know, seeing it.

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What I would want is to have my phone out.

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I would want to have video for others to see.

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I don't have to be convinced of anything, neither does

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my life because we saw what we saw. I would

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just want to be able to kind of lock it

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in for others. I wish that everyone could could have

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seen this and at some point, because there's no denying

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there's something out there. And so it's not like I'm

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I'm going about my day hoping, oh wow, I see

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when when we go there, it definitely crosses my mind thinking,

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wow are we going to you know kind of.

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Oh yeah, I'd be thinking about it all the time.

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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah we do. And yeah.

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So so last lastly, you know this happened in twenty twelve,

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so you have had well, man, you've had what fourteen

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fourteen years, yes, quite a while to think about it

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and to probably run it over in your mind a

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few times.

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Yeah, the story, the story has never ever change exactly.

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Let me just can I add one caveat to this.

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The only reason why I even went on your show

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is because you know.

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Why, you know, was even willing, because when I would

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tell some of my close friends you should talk to

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you should tell whatever show.

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I go, I'm not going to do that. I'm not

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going to do that.

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And and then of course blurry creatures.

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You know, they don't just talk about Bigfoot. Then there's a.

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Whole lot of great topics they cover. But when you're

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on there, it was like, Okay, this is the safe

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place I can literally, I have no problem telling you

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and so. But but the story it's as if it

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happened yesterday. Honestly, it's as if we saw this thing yesterday.

474
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So sorry, go ahead, I guess.

475
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.960
So have you gotten to Sometimes witnesses will get to

476
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:55.160
a point where, based on what they saw, they could

477
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.759
say Bigfoot. In my opinion, is this or this or

478
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:06.240
are we at a point where, whereas you know, without

479
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.160
as much information as when we started.

480
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:12.599
That's a good question.

481
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.200
So you know, based on some of the stories that

482
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.279
I've heard of people's sightings and so forth, it doesn't

483
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.720
sound exactly the same as mine. Because that's why I

484
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:27.759
asked you, as anyone ever had an explanation or a story,

485
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.519
I should say, or an experience where something moved this fast.

486
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.599
And when I hear of people telling bigfoot stories these encounters,

487
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.039
so to speak, they're like, you know, lumbering slow, or

488
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.519
they maybe dash quickly and they take a big jump

489
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.960
or whatever. So where do I put that? Do I

490
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.799
put it natural or do I put it supernatural? And

491
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.279
because it's outside the I've just never heard of anybody

492
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.000
telling a story similar to this to what we saw,

493
00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:06.279
what we experienced. So yeah, I but I I would

494
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:11.039
say that I do absolutely there's no question something's out there.

495
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.759
And do they have the capability, like you said, to

496
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.599
kind of make make themselves blurry? And I wonder, I

497
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.319
don't know, I mean they can. Something's doing something for sure?

498
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.960
One hundred percent? Am I saying it's a big foot? Well,

499
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.279
it certainly resembles any and all. You know, when you

500
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.480
see a show or you hear of a story and

501
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:36.000
they describe it, Yeah, matches the description. And why is

502
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.799
it always seem like it's on the side of a road. Well,

503
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.880
this one was on the side of a road and

504
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.920
in the size. Yep, that's that sounds exactly about what

505
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.839
we saw. But the speed at which this thing went

506
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.759
was just just unbelievable, just inexplainable.

507
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:54.680
So how does it do that? I don't know.

508
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.160
You know, it's one of the reasons I do this

509
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.440
show is because I feel that is one of the

510
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.160
last great mysteries of the world is trying to figure out,

511
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.960
you know, what it is or what exactly bigfoot is.

512
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.279
All these people keep on seeing something out there across

513
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.319
the US. And Casey, thank you so much for coming

514
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.920
on the show and sharing your experience, and I want

515
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.920
to make sure that you were able to share everything

516
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.759
that you came to the show to share today.

517
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.240
Yeah, that really does sum it up.

518
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.079
But you know, there's absolutely no question that there is

519
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:39.079
there are things out there and whether we're going.

520
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:42.799
To call it bigfoot or but definitely it was.

521
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.599
Not a bear, dear elk, you know, any of the

522
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.720
animals that any of us have ever seen, nothing of

523
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.200
the kind, and so I'm absolutely certain And there you go.

524
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.359
Well, thank you so much for coming on. Casey, is

525
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:01.880
a pleasure to into you today.

526
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.519
You two, Jeremiah, thank you so much.

527
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.200
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

528
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.440
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

529
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.319
would love to get out in those woods and experience

530
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.880
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can

531
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.519
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

532
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:26.480
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

533
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.160
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

534
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.319
even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll

535
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.680
be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.

536
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:42.240
I'll probably I'll say this, there may be stuff you

537
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:48.839
haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

538
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.920
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

539
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.759
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

540
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.960
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

541
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:03.960
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

542
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.119
not only go to the festival, but you can also

543
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:14.680
sign up for a track Deep in the Wild Forest

544
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.480
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

545
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.440
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

546
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:27.079
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

547
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.359
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

548
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.480
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

549
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.720
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

550
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.799
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

551
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.440
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

552
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like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

553
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.240
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

554
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.319
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

555
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:05.839
that you guys can can get a little help with

556
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.159
the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

557
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.440
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

558
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.760
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

559
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.440
many people last year and the year before. It is

560
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.400
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

561
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.159
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

562
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.800
I want to say something directly to a very specific

563
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:33.320
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

564
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.320
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

565
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.559
can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or

566
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.039
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

567
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.679
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

568
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.840
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

569
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.400
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

570
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.440
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

571
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.920
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found track

572
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.280
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

573
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.119
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

574
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.800
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

575
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.480
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

576
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.039
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

577
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.800
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

578
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.119
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

579
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.559
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

580
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.320
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

581
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.159
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

582
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.440
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

583
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.320
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

584
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:52.159
carry alone and you're not alone. You've got the story,

585
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:56.519
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

586
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.400
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

587
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.760
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588
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.719
is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the

589
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.880
truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If

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598
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.880
a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

599
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.599
so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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606
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607
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.760
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608
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eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what

609
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else might be out there? And see you in the woods.