Feb. 19, 2026

When the Forest Turned Hostile | Mt. Hood

When the Forest Turned Hostile | Mt. Hood
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Season 1

Gary Allen from the Bigfoot Research Project returns to recount a harrowing series of events at Lolo Pass that culminated in a moment where his girlfriend and her horse came dangerously close to losing their lives during an encounter deep in the Mount Hood wilderness. What began as a familiar ride in a place they knew well escalated into something far more serious as the terrain, the animals, and the forest itself seemed to turn against them.


Join us as Gary shares what happened on that mountainside, how it changed his understanding of these encounters, and why some places can never be approached the same way again once the stakes become this high.

Gary's channel -
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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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Voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the privilege of having

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mister Gary Allen back on this show. We've had Gary

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on the show recently two times. He's been sharing multiple

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things that have happened around Oregon for him, specifically in

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the mount Hood Lolo Pass area and with the Bigfoot

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Research Project. Is where you can find the videos that

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he might be referring to, and that's on YouTube. So

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welcome back to the show.

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Gary.

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How are you doing today, sir?

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Doing well? Doing well?

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Thank you awesome.

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Trying to think the last time we talked, we had

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some you shared some really interesting things.

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I want to say.

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It was around twenty twenty two you were referring to,

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and there was the individual that was in the tent

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and there's a bigfoot that was smelling her hair, and

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it got very, very intense.

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It was so weird, and she screamed at the top

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of her lungs and nobody heard her. That was just odd.

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I mean, don't understand it.

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But absolutely we ended last episode with we still have

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some things to hear you're saying, we have stuff from

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twenty twenty three through twenty twenty five, and maybe some

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other things depending on where we go in this episode.

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But you know, Gary, I want to make sure we

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make the best use of our time today. So you're

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welcome to take us back to where where you'd like

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to pick up with your your encounters.

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Okay, thank you. First of all, I apologize if my

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voice is a little gravelly today. I have a I'm

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just getting over a cold, and but this is the

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only time and day I could do this, So here

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we go. Just one other thing, if I look down,

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I am looking at it at I'm looking at notes,

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but they're high points. It's not like a story I'm

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reading or anything like that. All of this is from memory,

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and mine's pretty good. You know, if I had just

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gone off the twenty nineteen siding, you know where I

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was watching one for eight minutes, and and if that

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was the only thing that happened, you know, I wouldn't

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need notes. Uh, It's just we've had so much activity.

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And I'm just talking about the sidings when I'm talking

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with you. But I've seen rocks thrown that are the

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size of bowling balls, and hit trees that are you know,

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up one hundred and fifty feet up in the air

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and break limbs all the way down, and and just

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continuous bombardment of little pebbles, and and you heard voices,

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heard all kinds of things that I'll touch a little

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bit on with these sidings. But there's just so much

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more than just the siding up there. And we don't

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see him every time we go out. It's just that's

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that's not the gig. We go on rides. We ride

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about four or five times a week here at our

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out of our ranch, got a small thirty two acre

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tree farm ranch here and here over in the Coast

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Range about thirty miles southwest of Portland. Our property. Butts

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ride up against the Stemson Timber property, which is seventy

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seven thousand acres, and Stimson gives us permission to ride

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our horses back in there. Very few people have permission

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to go in there, but we have. It Also that

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seventy seven thousand acres at the summit touches up against

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three hundred and fifty thousand acres of Tellamunk Forest. So basically,

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as a crow flies from my house, it's twenty miles

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to the ocean, and you can ride a horse from

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my house to the beach. It's possible to go up

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over the range and come back down, and once you

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get to the top of the range you can see

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the ocean. All that being said, you know I spoke

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about multiple sightings up to this point. You know, one

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actually down the road at the entrance to the lake

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on the highway that goes between Forest Grove and Gaston,

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one up at Northrope Creek, and then the twenty nineteen

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and twenty twenty up at Lolo Pass. We don't just

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encounter them up at Lolo Pass. We encounter them every

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pretty much everywhere we go, just not every time. I mean,

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it's like one out of ten rides we'll have something happen.

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My belief is that you know, they have to be

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in the area that you're in and then they have

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to be attracted to you for some reason, you know,

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whatever it is you do. If you're walking around, you know,

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stealthy and camo, they probably aren't going to know you're there,

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and you know, or they'll know you're there and just

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leave you alone. We do the opposite of that. We're

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riding a horse and a bike and I got bright

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yellow shirt on and we're laughing and having fun and

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you know, making fun noises while we ride up the trail.

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It keeps the horse aware that when I'm out in

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front of it and I go around a corner, when

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it comes around the corner, it's not startled because it

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hears me. Because we're constantly making noises back and forth,

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and you know, we do whoops and mainly we make

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the caca back and forth, and on my videos you'll

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see me do that quite a bit. It's to keep

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the horse settled. The horse is used to that. So

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if you look at my videos and you see that,

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and I know a lot of people say, oh, that's

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just stupid, but I don't care. It's keeping our horse safe.

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So the thing about endurance horses is their arabs are

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really flighty, really touchy, and the slightest thing can set

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them off. So we have to be real careful, you know,

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when we're up there in the mountains, which I'll get

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to in hearing a bit about the siding that stopped

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us from going up to Lolo Pass anymore, so at

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least up this one trail. But anyways, let's we'll get

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to twenty twenty three. I left off in twenty twenty two.

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In twenty twenty three, we again. We have a tree

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farm and we harvested seventy seven truckloads of trees off

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of it. You know, they're one hundred and twenty one

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hundred and fifty feet tall. Anyways, we harvested all these

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treeses is, we're opening up and doing a replant and

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opening up some acreach for some other stuff we're planning

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because we are farming and area for the horses. So

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one of the areas we cleared is next to our

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house and I can see it out in my kitchen window.

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It's about sixteen acres of hillside and it's pretty steep.

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As I look out the window the hill. The hill

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goes at an angle to me, you know, thirty degree

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or whatever. It's pretty steep, but it's really rugged. There's

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no trails, nothing up there yet. We're going to put

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some in, but right now there's just fallen trees and

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brush that's about about three to four feet tall with blackberries,

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and it's nothing you want to run through. It be

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detrimental to a person, you know, or you're clothing to try,

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and running up that steep of a hill is not

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really a great thing anyway. So what I'm getting at

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is June of twenty three, I was making coffee in

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my kitchen and we've lived in this house since twenty

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I want to say twenty twenty, so we've lived here

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three years, and we harvested the wood the second year.

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So this is the first full year of having the

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trees on that side of the property mostly harvested. We left,

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We left quite a bit, but it's pretty clear over there.

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So anyways, sun's just coming up. I always wake up

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before daylight, and I was making coffee and the sun's

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just coming up, so there's enough light that like if

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a deer something was running up that hill, I could see, Oh,

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that's a deer, you know, if you know a bird

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flies by or whatever over there, you know, an eagle,

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because we've got quite a few of those up here.

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I'd see that that's you know, that's what it was.

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I could make out, you know, pretty good. It had

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enough light I could see. And here's what I saw.

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I noticed some movement across the hill and I saw

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two figures. So the hills like this, I saw two

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figures running up the hill. What really drew my attention

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is how fast they were moving up the hill. Deer

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fast and they can you know, they bound up uphill

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pretty darn fast. These were moving about twice as fast

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as any deer I've ever seen up that hill. And

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deer go up and down that hill daily, we see

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them all the time. Don't really see deer run up

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that hill, though, But these two things were so they're

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just one right behind the other running up the hill.

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I'd say probably three times bigger than a black bear.

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And they they were moving so fast, I mean, their

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their legs were like a blur of movement, but they

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were just racing up the hill. They they made that

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hill from bottom to top, and it's a it's several

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hundred feet I'd say probably in about five or six seconds.

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I mean it was just like stupid fast. If if

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a deer were to go up that hill would take

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it probably about twice as long. And that that's what's

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drawing my attention is these things are just moving fast.

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They're jet black and no ears, no snout, wasn't wasn't

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a bear, no snout, couldn't make out features again, just

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just I could see their heads. I can see their

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bodies and their their their shoulders and their side was

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above the three foot brush by about two feet when

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they ran, and I could see the length of their body.

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They were pretty I mean they were big. I mean

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they were It looked like if our horses were trying

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to go up through that, but but so much faster

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and and you know, didn't look like horses. But anyways, Uh,

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they were huge, two of them, right up the hill.

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So I saw that and I just kind of done

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for a second. I'm thinking, Wow, you know there's there.

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I've heard a few tree knocks out here, and I've.

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Heard, uh, Gary either Hello, are we back?

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Hey Gary? That was weird, man. So I don't know

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what happened there, And we're still recording.

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By the way, my whole computer just locked up.

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I had to reboot.

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Sorry, we haven't really broached weird stuff on this yet,

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but like weird stuff happens sometimes. And so when you

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were telling your story, I this is I saw across

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the room what looked like a little, a little tiny

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something moving like a little ball of light or something.

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It was weird, dude.

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I don't know. Sometimes this this subject just creeps me

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out and I'm wondering what am I doing? Man? Am

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I you know, sometimes I feel way over my head

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and you know, it's supposed to be a fun hobby

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and I think I'm I think I'm poking the bear

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a little too much here sometimes, but or the bigfoot

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for whatever you want to term there.

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Oh, I agree with you, man, I mean I feel

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the same way sometimes. So the last thing I heard

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was you had heard there were like, it's like two

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or three knocks.

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Oh yeah, over over the the couple of years before

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that that we've lived here. We're heavily wooded right up

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to the house. I mean, you couldn't throw a rock

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twenty feet out he'd hit a tree and there would

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be knocks like one hundred feet down below. And I've

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had people that were staying with us, because people bring

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their horse trailers and campers up and they ride with

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us and stuff. They would say they woke up in

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the morning and they thought somebody was knocking on their

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back door something. So the knocks were so loud, but

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they opened the door and then they heard the knocks

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down below. It was just so loud that it will

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come up. But I've only heard it once in a while,

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like the in summer, I'll hear a couple. But the

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some of the odd things are mainly the owl noises

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that we hear are just a little off, not quite

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the borrows owl you know who cooks for you. They'll

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be slightly off or drug out. And I've heard that

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before up at up at Lolo Path Us and over

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at Northrip Creek and Rears Camp and a couple other places.

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But so anyways, yeah, so these things are are are

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ran up the hill like stupid fast, like crazy fast,

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and and I'm so I'm looking around for tracks and stuff.

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I find cougar tracks, I find bear tracks. We have

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a bear that lives at the pond down below us,

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and she has cubs. Like every other year or so,

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and we see her once in a while way down

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on the outskirts of our tree line. Really not afraid

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of bears much, not afraid of cougar's much. They stay away.

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And now we have livestock guardian dogs that keep them

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even further away, so that's not really a thing. Anyways,

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that that was pretty much. That was pretty much that

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twenty twenty three around the house thing. We've heard voices

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at night before, like saying like a single word out

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out in our back forty where there's no people and

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uh so many blackberries. You wouldn't want to walk through there.

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I mean, it would be just dangerous. And that's it

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was a human voice though, saying like one word, you know.

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It was just strange. But anyways, so so after that

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sighting that was in June and July my birthday month,

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we go. My girlfriend asked me every year, what would

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you like for your birthday? And every year I tell her, well,

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I'd like to go back up and you know, train

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the horses at Lolo Pass because it's just it's beautiful

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up there. The sandy's right there and it's just gorgeous.

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And every year she says okay, and I think she's

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crazy for doing that. But uh, she's she's pretty fearless,

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at least she was. So in twenty three we went

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back up and we unloaded on a Friday. We we

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we ride out. We we're just going to go to

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the three Rivers and back and and it's it's, you know,

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a couple of miles out and right before you get

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to the three rivers, it's the meadow where I previously

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had two sidings. And and in nineteen and twenty and

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twenty one and twenty two, you know, didn't see anything

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out have, you know, nothing no action out there. But

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so anyways, you know, we're we always look over there

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and we're watching what the horse is up to, and

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you know, seeing where's pointed his ears at. And it

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was it was pretty much fine. Oh, let me backtrack.

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I built a small e bike and I brought that

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to and we invited Tom Powell, Joe Buelert and some

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other friends up and Tom rode the small bike with

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me until he couldn't. Then I switched bikes with him.

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But we rode to the three Rivers and back and

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on the way there, didn't didn't see anything nothing of consequence.

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Come back then, I'm right out with these and we

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go to the rivers and back, just warming the horse up,

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and nothing strange. I mean it's a little quiet, but

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just nothing strange. So we decide, well, we're going to

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ride the two bikes again, because we had a couple

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hours before before twilight, ride the two bikes again. And

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this is where it got weird. So we're riding up

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this trail and we get we get you know, ways

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out there to where that meadow is, you know, two

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miles out or whatever, and and and the trail is,

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the horse trail is flat, and the sides of it

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are up. It's dirt has been packed down over time

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in the middle of the trail, so the sides of

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the trail are about a foot tall. Some places there

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two to three feet tall, or it'll be level ground,

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but the brush right there or rocks right there will

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be one to three feet tall. And for for quite

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a distance in several spots it's it's almost not flat

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off to the sides of the trail anywhere on that trail,

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but we're riding. We ride past the first half of

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the meadow and then come up to a tree branch

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that's been laid across the trail. The branch is I

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don't know, three four inches around you can ask Tom. Anyways,

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in about eight feet long, and it's pretty well stripped

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of anything. But it's right across the trail, and because

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the trail sits down in the skully, it's sitting about

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a foot or you know, foot and half off the ground,

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So can't ride a bike through, have to stop, have

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to move the branch right. So we go about another

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hundred feet and there's another one. We go another one

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hundred feet and there's another one. There were a total

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I think four or five of these, and so it

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was just strange because we had just been through there

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like a half hour before, and if anybody was in

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that area, there's only one trail in, there's no two trails,

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and there's nowhere else to walk through the thick brush.

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You would have to go bias, either on the way

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in or on the way out, on the between these

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two runs. So whatever did that was there and stayed

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there in the time loop that we were gone and

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came back. So Tom and I think, well, shoot, you know,

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they look like they like sticks, so let's build them

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a structure. So down by the river we built a

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lean to kind of teepee thing and made it about

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i'd say about seven or eight foot tall, and there

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are all kinds of branches. We leaned together, and we

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put some branches through sideways. And I had some apples

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with me, and I put some apples on it, and

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had a bag of salmon, and I put the salmon

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on it and in the bag though, and it was

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all good food. The salmon was real tasty smoked salmon.

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And I think I had two bags of salmon. So

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I put two bags up, and I put some some cookies.

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I brought some oreos. So I put all that in

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this this lean to and so I took a couple

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of pictures of it, and we rode back, rode back

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to camp. And uh so a couple hours later we

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get ready for the Twilight ride, and uh this is

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this is where we have our sighting. So so we

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go out, we go out past the meadow, nothing three rivers,

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everything seems fine, horses just moving right through it. And

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this time we have we're riding Marcus. And and this

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was the last year that Marcus could be ridden. Uh

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he had he had a disease in his hoofs. So

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this was his last time out there, I miss him.

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I miss beast mode. But anyways, uh so, so we

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we crossed the rivers and we go up. We're going

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up the backside of I call it Scuokam Ridge, Scukum Ridge.

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It's about a gosh, four or five thousand foot rise

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off the floor of up from where those three rivers are,

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and it's all switchbacks. It's just really steep trails, real

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narrow for most of it. Some places it spreads out,

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but for the most part it's it's, you know, foot wide,

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and if you for the most part the drop off

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is on the right side, it switches back and forth

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a little, but if you drop off that hill, you're

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gonna fall a couple hundred feet before you hit your

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first tree. And it's it's like, eh, it looks like

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about that. I mean, it's just steep as hell. You

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wouldn't want to fallow be bad. And the uphill side

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is about the same. So you're almost rubbing your elbow

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in parts going up this hill. So anyways, we head

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up the hill and as soon as we get across

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the three rivers, we start hearing something parallel on us.

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Can hear it once in a while, breaking a brand.

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It sounds like stomping down below us. So we're going

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up the ridge. It sounds like it passed us and

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got ahead of us, and it's coming around in front

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of us, and we're kind of coming up this way

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and it came around. So then we're hearing something above

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us on the ridge and these little tiny pebbles start

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flying down and they're hitting my front wheel. So they're

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timing it because I'm going up a pretty steep ridge.

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I'm doing about eight miles an hour on my bike,

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and they're timing it just right to hit my spokes

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as I'm going up this skill and these and they

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keep hitting it too. Man. They hit it like four

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or five times in a row. And I'm I have

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it all on camera. All of this is on GoPro.

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So so I'm getting these pebbles, you know. I'm telling

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my girlfriend who's ahead of me, I'm getting these pebbles

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thrown at my front wheel, you know. And and we're

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kind of laughing about it, you know. And I'm wearing

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a fluorescent yellow shirt and we're making racket and laughing

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and stuff, just trying to have a good time. And

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we know that attracts so we're doing it on purpose,

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and we're going up the trail and I'm making our

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fake bird calls all the way up to let the

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horse know I'm either behind it or in front of

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it so it's not scared when it comes around a corner.

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But so anyways, we get we get further up the

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trail and there's these really weird structures. I mean there's

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tree branches, or not tree brunches, but trees stacked in

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different types of pyramid type structures. Not really something that

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you know, you would sleep under type thing, but more

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of ambush kind of site for something coming up the trail.

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You know, if a deer is coming up the trail

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and you're sitting behind that, it may not see you.

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So anyways, we're seeing those that we're going, Okay, this

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is is getting weird because those weren't there last time.

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So we keep we keep going up the trail, I mean,

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we go up this trail every year. So we're going up,

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going up the trail a little bit further, and we're

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at this time, we're probably about it's seven miles up

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to the top, and and we're about five miles up

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and there's this there's the trail comes up up a

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hill to to an outcrop. You know from the side

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it would look like this, and the outcrop almost goes

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over the trail and it's just it's like on a

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fifty feet tall or more. And again I have I

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have all this on camera and on video. So we

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we come up around this corner and there's a switchback

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right right before this big outcrop starts and it's probably

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on a two hundred feet long about anywhere. It's from

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fifty to seventy five feet tall. So the horse just stops.

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And this horse I've I've never seen it stop. We've

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had sightings on that horse and it and it just

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keeps moving. It doesn't lock up. It locked up and

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locked up hard. And I have it on video. It's

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just staring straight ahead and it's not going forward. And

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she tried and tried to get it to go forward

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and it would not. And we're not seeing anything up

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the trail. So I catch up a little bit closer

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to her. I don't want to get too close because

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the horse is it's probably going to have to maneuver

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and spin around. The horse is here, the outcrop is here,

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and the horse is just in front of it, and

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the ridge next to the out crop is steep, and

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instead of wanting to go forward, the horse jumps up

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on the on the hill there and spins around, starts

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walking up it, and turns around and just comes downhill.

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It won't go any further. And again, never seen it

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do that before. So I'm thinking there's probably a cougar

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up up ahead or something. It's not a bear because

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he's not afraid of bears. He chases bears off. I've

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seen him do it. But there must be a cougar

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in there. That's the only thing I can think that

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would stop him. And so I ride up there and

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I got my video going, and there's I can't see anything.

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So and it's it's light enough, you know that my camera.

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If there's anything there, it probably picked it up, but

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I've not seen it with my eyes. So the horse

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has turned around and it's it's not staying there. It's

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made up its mine. It's leaving, and the you know,

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my girlfriend can't stop it. It once to go, So it's going.

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So I'm looking out and I can see across the

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canyon right there. I can see I can see down

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this canyon. It's probably I don't know, four thousand feet

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to the bottom, and then I can see this other

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ridge across from me that is probably I don't know,

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five six, six thousand feet. So I'm looking over at it,

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and I'm thinking, well, right now is as good a

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time as to tempt fade as any And I got,

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you know, the bigfooters back at camp, and I'm trying

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to lure these things down so they can see them.

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So I decide to make some noise, so I have

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the ability to whistle extremely loud. If you're within ten

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feet of me, it'll hurt your ears. So anyways, I

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do a couple of whistles across that canyon, knowing that

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there's still something right there, probably close to me, and

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you know, no reply, no, nothing, don't hear anything. And

460
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the horse is starting to get away from me. He's

461
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:41.240
getting pretty far downhill, and so I turn and I

462
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.000
start heading downhill a little bit. Well, I come to

463
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:49.359
a spot maybe I don't know, a couple hundred feet

464
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.319
down from that where I can see across the canyon

465
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:55.440
again because there's there's an opening in the trees on

466
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.559
the lower hill side, and the trees are you know,

467
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.720
hundred and fifty feet tall so to get an opening,

468
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.119
and only the tops of the trees are at my height,

469
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.720
but there's a little bit of an opening there. And

470
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.200
I stopped for a second because I have to cool

471
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.200
my brakes. I have to cool my brakes about every

472
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.599
couple thousand feet because the hills so steep it heats

473
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.240
them up and I'll burn them out and have no

474
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:19.519
breaks if I don't do that. So I carry a

475
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.480
water bottle and I douse the brakes, and I hear

476
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:27.920
what sounds like somebody took a one ton forward pickup

477
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.720
truck and shoved it off the top of the hill

478
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.519
on the far side, and now it's going down through

479
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.039
the trees just I don't know, maybe a bulldozer would

480
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.319
be more of an accurate but whatever it is is giant.

481
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.640
It's making so much racket that across this canyon. I

482
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.039
could hear it going down the hill on the far side,

483
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:55.160
right directly towards me, down the hill, and then it

484
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.160
starts coming up my side of the hill, and I

485
00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.039
could hear it coming up my side, and I thought, well,

486
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.440
if it was a boulder, it would have stopped at

487
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.720
the bottom. Now it's coming up my side and I'm up,

488
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:08.160
you know, four or five thousand feet up, and it

489
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.000
starts coming up like it got to about one thousand

490
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:12.799
feet and I'm like, I'm I'm, I'm out of here.

491
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:17.319
So so I rolled down the hill. I get caught

492
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:23.119
up to where the horse is. She tells me that

493
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:28.039
she's she's freaking out. She says, right right as I

494
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.000
caught her, it goes from really steep to kind you know,

495
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.680
semi steep in spots, then really steep. Well, she came

496
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.519
into a semi steep area and and the trees are

497
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.920
real thick on the right side, but not so thick

498
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:43.799
on the left, and it's you know, of course a

499
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:49.000
drop off. She said, Uh, something came out of the trees. Well,

500
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.799
something a bigfoot came out of the trees and was

501
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.279
running like at an angle in front of her across

502
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.599
the trail and then jumped off the cliff, went downhill,

503
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.359
made a big rock slide noise, and and then every

504
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.920
all the noise just stopped. And she said, the horse

505
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.799
stopped it. It was just tripping. It didn't like that

506
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.799
at all. And uh, and when I got there, I

507
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:14.720
had to go first after that because the horse will

508
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.319
follow me on my bike because we trained together, and

509
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.119
all of our horses feel really safe around me for

510
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:27.240
some reason. Anyways, uh so we so I get I'm

511
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.240
in front of it, and I'm just thinking, well, crap,

512
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:30.960
and I you know, I have a point where it

513
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.880
went down, and I can see I can see slide

514
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.319
marks on the side of the hill where something slid.

515
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.759
It's starting to get dark. It was twilight. This isn't

516
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.240
broad daylight. It's it's starting to get fairly dark. And

517
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.319
we still have, you know, like three miles to go

518
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.680
before we hit the three rivers and then it's you know,

519
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:52.680
a couple back to camp. And so so we're going

520
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.000
down the hill and I have to stop to cool

521
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.039
my brakes off or else they're destroyed it and I

522
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.799
have to put new brakes on, which I don't bring

523
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:06.480
with me. And so so the horse finally starts to

524
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.759
feel comfortable again, like a mile down, mile and a

525
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.400
half down. I could still hear something parallel on this

526
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.440
off to the left, but it's way down the hill now,

527
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.200
and so we're starting to feel a little bit, you know,

528
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.920
a little bit better. And so we get down to

529
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.839
one of two landings that's on on this hill. There's

530
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.400
I call them a landing, but it's it's where the

531
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.039
timber company, you know, one hundred years ago, kind of

532
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:38.160
trail up around this hill, you know, like it five

533
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.480
miles up and I think it's six miles up something

534
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.960
like that. Anyways, give or take. So anyways, we come

535
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.640
to one of those, I call it a landing, and

536
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.559
my brakes I could smell them. I mean they're they're

537
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.960
just so hot. And I put water on it instantly vaporizes.

538
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.000
And again I have all of this is on camera.

539
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.519
I got my GoPro rolling, and I think I put

540
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.559
a fresh battery in it right then. I usually have

541
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:08.039
forty five minutes per battery in four K, and so

542
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.240
I put a fresh battery in it, and everything was

543
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.480
working fine. And meanwhile, while I'm sitting still, these rocks

544
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.759
are flying. Little pebbles are flying and hitting the brush

545
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.440
just twenty feet from me, and I can see it

546
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.519
ripping through the leaves of the brush. And I'm gone, honey,

547
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:32.319
look they're tossing pebbles at us again, and she goes,

548
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.960
well we should go. So horses pretty spooked, but he's

549
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.039
calmed down quite a bit. And so and again I

550
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.559
have this on camera. You can see the rocks, hitting

551
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:50.759
and hitting the brush and stuff. So we come the

552
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.039
rest of the way down this hill and you know,

553
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.559
it switched back after switch back, and there's some straightaways,

554
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.759
but it's steep. I stop a few more times, still

555
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.480
hearing movement, but it seems like it's further off. So

556
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.680
we get down to the first of the three rivers

557
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:08.000
that we have to cross, and there's a rock face

558
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.680
that's uh on a less than one hundred feet away

559
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:19.960
and it's probably seventy five feet tall, and she crossed

560
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.880
the water. I'm I'm in the middle of it. And

561
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.720
then we hear a whoop from the top of the outcrop,

562
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.720
so it was within one hundred feet watching us, and

563
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.880
I look up and you know, I got I got

564
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:33.720
the camera because it's on my I wear it on

565
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.359
my hat. I'm looking up and the camera might have

566
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:41.079
caught it, but I didn't see anything, so so I'm

567
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:42.599
you know, I got pay attention to what I'm doing.

568
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.160
And I may or may not have dropped my bike.

569
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.200
I can't remember. I drop it all the time and

570
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:48.640
things just clumsy. But you know, it weighs one hundred

571
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:52.720
and ten pounds, so it's a big fat tire bark

572
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.160
with one horse motor, electric motor, and a big battery.

573
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.880
So so anyways, I'm trying to keep moving though, you know,

574
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:04.039
we want to get out of there. Obviously they they're

575
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.359
either just messing with us just to see what our

576
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.280
reaction is or they want us out of there. Either way,

577
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:14.840
we're leaving. So so we crossed the three rivers, and

578
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.920
the last one, the one closest to camp, is the

579
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:25.320
deepest and the widest, and just get across that, and

580
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:29.480
now the meadow where we have all these sightings will

581
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.400
shortly be on our left. There's a ton of skunk

582
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.400
cabbage right in there. But to our right here a

583
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.000
tree get pushed over boom, and it was it was

584
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.119
close enough that we could feel it, felt it through

585
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.760
the ground. And I'm thinking, I just got that on camera.

586
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.119
No I checked. I'm looking at my camera when I

587
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.639
got back to camp, and my batteries died. So I

588
00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:00.400
just put him in like twenty minutes before that, uh,

589
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.039
you know, half hour tops, and they should have gone

590
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.679
for forty now, dead as a door nail. And and

591
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:11.719
it was dead I think before the whoop. It died

592
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:16.039
right before before that water crossing, which sucks and then,

593
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.360
and I have a rear camera off the back of

594
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.639
my bike that I point up here. I think that

595
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.400
one was still running. I'll have to check, but I

596
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.679
think it died at the point where the tree crashed.

597
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:30.360
So so both cameras dead, both had good batteries. Can't

598
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:38.360
explain it. So anyways, uh So, so we get back

599
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.599
to camp. It's pitch black. I'm talking with the guys

600
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.960
and telling them what happened, and and one of the

601
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.320
guys has a theory that when the trees get pushed over,

602
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:53.239
it's a noise that uh that bigfoot can make somehow

603
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.880
it mocks the tree cracking, breaking and falling. And I

604
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.559
heard it crack, break and fall and I'm like, I don't.

605
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.239
I don't know about that, you know. And he's bull

606
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.679
it's in and down their dimensions sometimes or whatever. And

607
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:11.000
I'm I haven't seen other dimensions. I haven't, you know,

608
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:16.159
the whole WU thing. I'm not. I really don't care

609
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.599
one way or another on it. I just haven't witnessed

610
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.880
anything like. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You know,

611
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.960
there's a lot of things I haven't seen, you know,

612
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.840
I haven't seen a SpaceX rocket launch in person, doesn't

613
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.880
mean they're not there. So so anyways, uh, and my girlfriend,

614
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:38.599
she gets feelings that around animals and stuff and around

615
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.760
these things too, she gets she gets feelings that I mean,

616
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:43.679
I can I can talk about in a different video.

617
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.159
But so anyways, we get back to camp and we're

618
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:50.239
talking about that, and I'm like, no, I felt it

619
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.039
hit the ground, you know, And and I could see

620
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:55.679
a bunch of brush moving around when it crashed, and

621
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.400
it was it was one hundred feet away when hit.

622
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.039
And it's really thick trees through there and tons of

623
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:06.079
brush that's like, you know, five to ten feet tall

624
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.639
in spots. But I saw all that move around like

625
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.280
something just hit right there, and it was so close.

626
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.880
I meant, we got the out And you know, I

627
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.920
probably should wear microphones or something when I go up there,

628
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:19.760
so you could at least get the sound off of

629
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.320
this stuff. And maybe that's I'll write that down. That's

630
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:26.800
something I can do. But so anyways, so we get

631
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.679
back to camp. Oh, by the way, we go buy

632
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.199
the tepee that Tom and I built earlier, and it's

633
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.960
still there, so hadn't been touched, apples nothing. So the

634
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:42.239
next morning my girlfriend goes out and that night, one

635
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:43.719
of the guys said, hey, you want to go back

636
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.480
down there, and it's dark now, and I'm like, oh,

637
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.880
I'm nah. It pushed the tree over. I think it

638
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:53.199
made its intentions known. I think I'm good. I don't

639
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.320
want a tree pushed over on me, and that one

640
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.800
was pretty close. I'm good. You know, you go ahead,

641
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.639
though you could borrow my yellow shirt. They're like no, no, no.

642
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:08.440
So so anyways, next day, my girlfriend and some of

643
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.760
the girls from camp decide they're going to go down

644
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:16.599
to the river just walk the horses, because the horses

645
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.079
just love being walked. And they walk out there and

646
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:25.840
that teepee that we made was gone. It wasn't smashed

647
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.639
the ground, it wasn't torn apart like an animal would

648
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.199
tear apart for food. It was gone, like completely gone,

649
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:39.320
like no sign of it gone. Apples the bag the

650
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.719
salmon pieces with the two bags salmon was in all

651
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:46.800
of it gone. And and so she told me that,

652
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:49.840
and she took pictures and you can see it's not

653
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:56.320
there anymore, not just it's gone. So later in the

654
00:38:56.320 --> 00:39:00.639
afternoon I got got my my I don't know what

655
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.639
my mojo back, and I decided, okay, well, I'm going

656
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.719
to go down there and just look at it where

657
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:08.639
I'm just going to wear the TP. I'm not crossing

658
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.519
the frickin river anymore, not on that trip. So so

659
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.800
I go back and I look, and I found a

660
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.519
couple of the sticks, but they were thrown in like

661
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:25.880
opposite directions. And I found I think I found three

662
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.320
of the ten and they were I don't know, thirty

663
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:33.039
forty feet away from where that was. So if it

664
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:34.840
was a bear knocking it over, it would have just

665
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.119
tor shit, you know, tore stuff up right there. It

666
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.639
wouldn't have, you know, took a one limbo over here,

667
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.360
another limb over there, one here, one there. It wouldn't

668
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.280
have scattered things to the four winds. And I'm pretty

669
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:51.519
sure the baggies would be somewhere close by. But the apples.

670
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.199
Not a sign of the apples. And I had I

671
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.480
think I had like three or four on there. I

672
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.159
had these little little plastic horses that I bought. I

673
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.719
bought a bag of like t two hundred of them.

674
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.119
They're different colors, and I had those on it. Those

675
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:07.360
were even gone. So they took the toys, and you know,

676
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.599
maybe a crow would do that. I don't know, you know,

677
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.679
maybe a bear gut. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what,

678
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.440
you know, what could have happened, But I'm pretty sure

679
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:22.519
a bear wouldn't want a plastic toy, and so so anyways,

680
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.079
so that happened, and that was the end of twenty

681
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:33.159
three and we come back home. Any questions, I'm twenty three,

682
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:34.320
I'll tell twenty four.

683
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:40.239
If yeah, real quick, this is this is up on

684
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:44.280
your YouTube channel, like that whole journey right in twenty.

685
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.880
Four it maybe some of them may be. I have

686
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:53.400
all this video on a hard driving and my more

687
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.480
recent rides are on this laptop I just bought at Christmas.

688
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.599
It's got sixty four gig and it's it's I built

689
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.840
it to build a load stuff up. So it will

690
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.920
be on my YouTube channel, and you know, the next

691
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.440
month or two I'll put all these up. And and

692
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.440
one thing about my videos too, is is I'm basically

693
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.920
just trying to show the raw footage. I'm I'm not

694
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.719
there to pick certain parts out or anything. I just

695
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.519
I just show the whole thing. And people say, oh, well,

696
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.159
I saw shadows here, I see something there in the background.

697
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.360
They'll see stuff that you know, I haven't really sat

698
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:31.239
down and looked through each piece by piece. I'm I'm

699
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.119
I'm not. I'm not in this too to be world renowned.

700
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.519
And I'm not in it too, you know, obviously make money,

701
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:42.719
or else i'd have everything up and and you know,

702
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.880
be dialed in. Some of my videos have had three

703
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.159
quarter of a million hits though, and and and which

704
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.599
is nuts and and it's and it's just again raw footage.

705
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.440
I'm you know, I'm not. I'm not talking about much

706
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.679
that the you know, hey, I was here a couple

707
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:03.760
of years ago and I saw this. It's it's actual

708
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.719
live footage of me going up in this happening. So

709
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.920
it's it's at times again I wonder what I'm doing.

710
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:17.679
Sometimes I'm, you know, just the fear is just almost overwhelming,

711
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.440
and you know, I don't know, maybe that's it. Maybe

712
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.159
it's the adrenaline from doing all this. But I think

713
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.159
after twenty twenty four, I think it's kind of stupid

714
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:29.800
to go up there anymore. But at least up the backside.

715
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.119
We still go up the front. It's less dangerous. But

716
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.199
let me get to what I call the odyssey two.

717
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:42.960
So in twenty nineteen, I called it the odyssey because

718
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.760
you know, we spent like four or five hours going

719
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.480
up and down Scuokum Ridge and the second half, you know,

720
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.719
coming down, you know, we were harassed, and and I

721
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.840
had multiple sidings. My girlfriend saw four of them, well

722
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.559
five of them, counting the one we saw together, and

723
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:03.679
you know, it was just crazy up there, everything that

724
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.320
was happening. So I called that one an odyssey more

725
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.280
so than than just a trek. You know, where we're

726
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:13.519
where we're we're having a siding. But in twenty twenty four,

727
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:17.559
we had another odyssey. This one. This one's scary. My

728
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.960
girlfriend will never go up that trail again because of

729
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.960
what happened. And I don't blame her. She she almost died.

730
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.639
So so so here's here's what happened on that one.

731
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.280
In twenty twenty four, we go back again Birthday weekend

732
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.719
in July, and you know, we set up our corrals

733
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:38.400
and and our friends are coming in. Uh within hours

734
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.960
of that, Uh, Joe B. Lart and and my my

735
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.480
friend John and and and and invited a couple other people.

736
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.599
One of the engineers from work that I work with,

737
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:52.880
I wanted to come up, and so we invited a

738
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.239
few people up. But we got there about i'd say

739
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.639
probably two hours before anybodybody else did. And we have this,

740
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.679
we have this brand new horse trailer. It's just it's amazing.

741
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.719
It's got a like a like a I want to say,

742
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.960
twelve foot slide out and and you know, eighteen foot

743
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:19.159
living quarters with a giant over hitch bed, and you know,

744
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:21.960
it's the things. It's like being in a hotel. It's

745
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:28.199
just amazing. And three horse in the back. And so anyways,

746
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.039
were we pull it and we set it in place,

747
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.519
and while I'm outside leveling it and getting I got

748
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.760
to stand by generator so we can charge our batteries

749
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:41.480
before dark and stuff. While I'm out out taking care

750
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:46.880
of stuff, I hear about two hundred feet back in

751
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:52.960
the tree line a child talking and it's it's moving.

752
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.960
So as I face the tree line and I'm back

753
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:58.920
at my trailer. As I faced the tree line, it's

754
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.239
moving through the trees. I would have to be jogging

755
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.559
to move it the rate it was moving through the trees.

756
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:11.440
But it was talking. I heard it talk for I

757
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.280
don't know, probably a minute or two, and it had

758
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:18.239
the high pitched child voice. Crystal Clear couldn't understand the

759
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:22.400
word I don't know what language, never heard it before,

760
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.559
you know, wasn't Asian, wasn't Arabic, wasn't wasn't this that

761
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:31.880
or the other thing? And it wasn't I mean, maybe

762
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.880
a cross between Asian and Native American, if it was anything.

763
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.239
But it was a small child and no other voices,

764
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.000
just this one, and it moved across at a speed

765
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.440
that I mean, I'd have to jog to carry that

766
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.760
much speed through the trees. And I thought, okay, well,

767
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.000
I kept listening. I'm waiting for an adult to reply

768
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:53.320
back to the kid or or something. And the area

769
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.559
we're out, there's no humans for a couple of miles.

770
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:59.599
We're we're the only ones in there, and and there's

771
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.000
no time of any cars, any people, and there's no

772
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.760
trail back there. It's just solid trees. There's a trail

773
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.559
that that dissects it, well, a couple of trails at

774
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.920
dissect right in half in a couple spots, but nothing

775
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.360
that goes in the direction that the voice was going. Nothing.

776
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:18.000
So it was just really strange. So that started the

777
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:25.000
odyssey too. So I'm gonna look down and again, I

778
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.280
so much happened. I took notes at the time, so

779
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:34.119
I'm just gonna, I'm gonna take a look. So this

780
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:36.480
year we're riding a different horse. We have two, and

781
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.320
we've been racing the two together, and you know, they

782
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.760
won first place in the Northwest in twenty nineteen out

783
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.239
of four hundred horses. And we're serious about endurance riding.

784
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.400
It's it's it's a hobby. And we go that's why

785
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.159
we go in the forest, you know, pretty much every

786
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.840
weekend and on weekdays we ride out in the forest

787
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.400
from our house, so which is in the forest. So anyways,

788
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:03.320
we took our second horse. Her name's Bella. Bella's Bella

789
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.519
is pretty amazing. She's fairly fearless, but she gets spooked

790
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:13.480
easy sometimes. So anyways, we decide we're going to do

791
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:19.639
a Friday twilight ride and and we go to the

792
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.880
Three Rivers and she's been across it several times. She's

793
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.760
been up the hill too. She knows the game, she

794
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.280
knows what we're up to. She knows we're training, we're

795
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.400
we're we're doing this. So we get her to the

796
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.159
Three Rivers and she won't even put a foot in

797
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.320
the first first bit of water. She's staring straight across

798
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:42.719
at at a group of trees that are right there,

799
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:44.880
and they have brush that goes up about five feet

800
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.280
tall into them, and there's other trees. I mean, the

801
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.840
whole bank is trees. But this is a real thick patch.

802
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.679
So she's staring at that and she won't move. She's

803
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.079
just kind of frozen for a bit. And then she

804
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.639
starts dinking around a little bit. She won't she won't

805
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.840
move forward. Can't get her to go forward, and so

806
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.239
I catch up and I asked, what's up? And horse

807
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.239
won't go forward, Gonna have to turn around. Okay, So

808
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:12.239
you know, it's a couple of miles back to camp

809
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:16.039
and and uh, we decide, well, hey, we can't go

810
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.880
up this back trail up Scuoka Ridge. Let's let's let's

811
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.440
go up the front trail. You know, it's a lot wider,

812
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.519
especially at the base, and there's a lot less activity

813
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.760
that happens up that side, a lot less, but it

814
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:38.119
still happens. So we we start. We passed through camp,

815
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:41.519
we tell people what we're doing, and we head up.

816
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:46.119
We head up this other trail. So we're we're heading

817
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:48.239
up the trail and it's starting to get into switch

818
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.039
back after switch back. We came off off the kind

819
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.719
of flat lands, it kind of has a dip and

820
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.679
then it goes it starts going up you know the

821
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:58.280
multiple ridges up here, but they're switch back after switch back.

822
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.679
We start heading up that and we're probably I don't know,

823
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.159
probably a mile a mile and a half up up it,

824
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:14.719
away from camp and and start hearing owl noises, you know, whoa, whoa,

825
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.199
but they're they're up the hill and they're actually moving

826
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:21.559
towards us as we as we keep going uphill, it's

827
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.760
like on a like it's coming right at us. As

828
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.519
we go switch back after switchback, well, it's kind of

829
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.960
coming down towards us, and it gets louder and louder,

830
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.039
and then instead of it's whoa whoah, like a whole

831
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.679
different noise, but louder, kind of kind of off owl

832
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:45.000
just not right, and it keeps getting closer and now

833
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.360
it's within a couple hundred feet of us. It came

834
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.119
off of you know, two thousand foot ridge that's right

835
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:57.840
before the big the big ridge, and it came off

836
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:01.000
of that, and the horse just lamb on its brakes

837
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.400
and it would not move forward going up that ridge,

838
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:09.840
and not only would not go forward, but it started

839
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:13.280
kicking a little bit. It got upset and spun around

840
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:17.360
and started heading heading downhill, and I mean, there's no

841
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:21.280
stopping it. It's it's leaving and she's trying to pull

842
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.159
it reined in and get it to you know, slow down,

843
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.760
behave runs by me. I'm off to the side. I

844
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.320
move off to the side of the trucks. I saw

845
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.480
what was happening, and it runs by me. And again

846
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:38.280
I have all of this on camera, but so the

847
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.119
owls still going up above me. It's just making strange noises,

848
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.480
and I'm kind of looking around and I'm seeing just

849
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:53.000
odd trees falling in spots that I'm seeing the top

850
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:54.760
of a tree, but I don't see the bottom of it,

851
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.599
and like it was broke off or something, and then

852
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.440
place there from nowhere close by because I couldn't find

853
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.440
the bottom of it. So I'm looking around. I'm starting

854
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.000
to get the creeps and I'm and the owl noise

855
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.760
is getting louder, it's getting closer, and I start to

856
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.760
go down the hill. So we make it to the

857
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:16.760
bottom of the hill and you can still hear the

858
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:22.599
owls coming behind us down this ridge. You can still

859
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:29.320
hear it coming in and it's now half the distance

860
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.119
from camp from where we were up the hill, and

861
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:38.039
you can hear it in camp. Those voices don't carry

862
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.800
that far, but you could hear it. And it went

863
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:45.719
on for an hour or so right from that same spot.

864
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:52.639
So so that was That was Friday night. And you know,

865
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.760
we we have we put up game camps. I put

866
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:01.559
them around the horses, mainly because they uh it, game

867
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.000
cans tend to repel these things, and so I want

868
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.239
my horses to be safe, and so we put those up.

869
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.599
You know, I can't wait up all night with them

870
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.119
and protect them, so so I put these cameras out. Well,

871
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.280
the girlfriend from you know, two years before, came up

872
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.480
with this, the one that had her hair smelled and

873
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:20.920
she will no longer sleep in a tent. She had

874
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.679
her suv and and had a bed in the back.

875
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:27.440
And told her about you know, what happened with the horse.

876
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.239
And she goes, should I just leave? And we're going.

877
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.760
You know, you're gonna be safe in your car, but

878
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:34.960
let me, I told her, Let me put a game

879
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.480
cam right in front of the car that shines all,

880
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:38.880
you know, so I can see all around it with

881
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.119
that game cam, and they'll leave, they'll leave you alone.

882
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.480
And uh and and they did. They left her alone.

883
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.159
Didn't leave us alone, but they left her alone. And

884
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:56.400
I'll get to that. But so so on Saturday, everybody

885
00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.880
was interested in seeing you know, hey, maybe there's some

886
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:06.119
signs up there, you know. So John and the engineer, myself,

887
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.320
the girlfriend, my girlfriend, just a bunch of us walk

888
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:15.119
up the front side trail and it's, you know, broad daylight,

889
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.079
probably one or two in the afternoon, beautiful summer day

890
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:26.480
and again old growth, thickest trees are really big and thick,

891
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.280
and I absolutely drop dead gorgeous out there. It's like

892
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.039
it's what you people think of when they think of Oregon,

893
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.519
just green and lush and beautiful. So we're walking walking

894
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.320
back up this hillside and not quite as intimidating in

895
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.239
the daylight, so pretty fun. We're walking up and we

896
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.079
see these odd trees. We're trying to figure out and

897
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:47.760
I got it on cam. We're trying to figure out, well,

898
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:49.519
where did this one come from? Where did that one

899
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.239
come from? Because they're broke off and you know, the

900
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.880
wind probably snapped them off, who knows, but they're not

901
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.719
where they should have fell. They're you know, one hundred

902
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.960
feet up the hill or whatever. So we're laughing about

903
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.639
it and everything. And we get about a mile up,

904
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:06.960
maybe a mile and a half, about to the point

905
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:11.280
where we turned around the night before, and everybody de sides, well, hey,

906
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.480
let's go back to camp and eat lunch, because we

907
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.280
hadn't eaten yet. So the mob heads down the hill

908
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:18.280
with the horse. We're walking a horse with us, and

909
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.039
and uh one or think, yeah, I think we just

910
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.840
had had a bell at that time. So they're walking

911
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:28.800
off down the hill and I stay behind and I'm

912
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.360
on my I'm on my bike. I'm just hanging out

913
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.480
and I let them get a good fifteen minute head start,

914
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.800
and I just sat there and just listened and the

915
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:41.000
trees or the winds slightly blowing through the trees and stuff. Well,

916
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:42.360
on that side of the hill, you got a whole

917
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:46.760
different canyon that goes across, and you can see north,

918
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.159
and there's a there's a big valley, and there's this

919
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.280
river that passes through it that eventually joins into the sandy,

920
00:54:55.320 --> 00:55:00.519
but huge valley. I mean, it's I don't know a

921
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.679
mile across or more. And there's a ridge on the

922
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:08.960
far side that's not real tall, it's probably, you know,

923
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.840
three thousand feet tall. I'm I'm about at the height

924
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.960
that it's at on the hillside here on this thing

925
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.440
when I first heard it, and what I heard was

926
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:26.039
I heard it a tree pushed over, and then it

927
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.000
sounded like it rolled all the way down the hill

928
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.960
through trees and brush. And I mean again, that bulldozer

929
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:36.079
sound of something just going and you know, bulldozer going

930
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.360
and over and down a hill is what it sounds like.

931
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.400
Just crash boom, crash, crash crash. And I'm hearing it

932
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:46.440
clear across this valley and I'm I'm just, oh, crap,

933
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.599
I've heard that before. And so it gets down to

934
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:53.000
the bottom, it crosses the river. I can't see it,

935
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.639
of course, because there's too thick, and it starts heading

936
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:02.239
up the hill towards me, and I'm I'm starting to

937
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:06.599
get a horrible feeling of you know, a little bit

938
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:12.159
of terror, which I get around these things. I'm not not,

939
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:16.199
not not an extremely brave person, but I could tolerate

940
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.159
quite a bit of stuff to try and you know,

941
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.119
get a goal. And my goal was to get one

942
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:26.639
on on video. And uh, I'm thinking, no, this thing

943
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:30.760
sounds way too big. I why can't. Why can't I

944
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:35.639
see little ones? You know? And and and it's just

945
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.239
crashing up this hill and it's getting closer and closer.

946
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:40.239
At the rate it's moving, it's going to be on

947
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.239
top of me, probably in I don't know, three or

948
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:48.599
four minutes. It's it's it's it's moving fast. And uh,

949
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.960
I'm like, okay, I'm I'm bugging out. I'm done. And

950
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.559
all the way up the hill, I brought those little

951
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.000
horses I was telling you about, Yeah, I brought I

952
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:59.719
brought those little horses with me and an apple and

953
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:01.800
I say, an apple down there with a horse in it,

954
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.719
and and I dropped a horse going down the hill

955
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.519
every one hundred feet or so. I had a big

956
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:10.719
bag of them. So I'm moving. I'm moving down the

957
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.320
hill and it changes course on an intersection course to me,

958
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:19.800
and it gets and I'm now I'm like a half

959
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:24.320
a mile up away from from the flats, and the

960
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.719
main big fat trail that's really close to comes out

961
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.360
on the road right by camp. And I'm feeling pretty

962
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:33.159
good about myself because I made pretty good time. But

963
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.360
this thing had come up and it changed course. It

964
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.440
was coming right at me, and uh, and then it

965
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.639
just stopped in the tree line, like I don't know,

966
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:45.480
a couple couple hundred feet back, but I can hear

967
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:47.239
it crashing all up to that point and then it

968
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.199
just goes dead Sila, right. So I was tripping out

969
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.599
on it getting so close to me that I missed

970
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.719
my turn that on the trail that goes to the car,

971
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.239
so I got to go further through the woods before

972
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.119
I hit the next turn that goes to my car,

973
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:07.719
and I'm like, oh crap, So nothing happened, but I

974
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.760
finally I finally came out, you know, on the road

975
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:14.559
and was able to get back to our roadside corral

976
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:18.440
set up in our camp site. So so that that

977
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:24.840
was a pretty interesting afternoon. So now it gets to

978
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:30.000
twilight and we're we're all set to go up. You know,

979
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:35.280
for twenty nineteen on we've been going and this is

980
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.679
twenty twenty four, we've been going up this back trail

981
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.440
at twilight, and I'm a majority of the time when

982
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.800
we come back down there's activity in and or around

983
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:47.599
camp at night, and I'm you know, I got these

984
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:50.840
pretty famous people with me, and I'm I'm trying to

985
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:55.679
accommodate them, you know, and bring something into camp for

986
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.039
him if I can. You know, I'm bait basically, and

987
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.280
my girlfriend's okay with it. She really, up to this

988
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.760
point didn't really fear these things too much, even though

989
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.039
she's seen you know, at this point she had seen

990
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:14.719
like five of them or six of them, and so anyways, uh,

991
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:18.519
you know, I got camera rolling on my hat, I

992
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:22.480
got one rolling on the back of the bike, and

993
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:25.639
we head out and the horses in front of me.

994
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.119
We head out, and then I get in front of

995
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.320
it and we're heading down past the meadow. Nothing in

996
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.960
the meadow. We get to the rivers. Not much at

997
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.519
the rivers, just just quiet. We crossed the river and

998
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.599
it starts up again. They're tramping in the in the

999
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.559
hillside below us on the right, and we're going up

1000
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:47.039
up these windy trails and it's you know, steep, and

1001
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:53.639
we're seeing something different that we'd never seen before in

1002
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:55.800
a past video. I told you that they had jam

1003
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.440
sticks through these stumps that are right next to the trail.

1004
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.960
I mean they're they're actually physically within a foot of

1005
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.199
the trail and it's a cliff drop off right there,

1006
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.039
and they shoved these sticks into the stumps where I

1007
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:09.840
couldn't pull them out. I couldn't work them back and

1008
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:12.159
forth and get them out. And they're about that big

1009
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.400
a round. Some of them are ten foot tall, some

1010
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:18.320
of them are are six foot tall. Well, it looks

1011
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.559
like the Force Service had come through and cut all

1012
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:23.280
five of those stumps off. And I have those stumps

1013
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.679
with the sticks on video, and now I have the

1014
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.400
stumps gone on video. So that wasn't the weird part. Though.

1015
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.320
The weird part was this Apparently the Force Service, for

1016
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:39.320
some reason they had the need to put signs up

1017
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.920
along the side of the trail that said, do not

1018
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:46.760
go beyond this point protected area, do not go beyond

1019
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:50.800
this point. Well, for five years, those haven't been there, right,

1020
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.800
So I see one of them and it's facing you know,

1021
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.079
right there. Well, you can't miss it. They don't want

1022
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.559
you going up up this hillside, you know where these

1023
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:03.920
things are at, basically. So we come around a corner

1024
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.960
and there's forty more of them facing the wrong way,

1025
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.480
jammed into a hillside in this gullie that you couldn't

1026
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:13.639
walk up it. I mean it's way too steep, and

1027
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:15.840
they're just jammed one after another all the way up

1028
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:20.159
through this goalie. Facing the wrong way. Some of them

1029
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.679
are bent a little bit, but every single one of

1030
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.159
them's facing the wrong way up this golle. And I'm thinking,

1031
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.760
why would the Forest Service do that? You know, that's

1032
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.360
what a waste. You know, I knew they didn't do it,

1033
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:35.320
but I'm just saying, what a waste. So apparently these

1034
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.760
things don't like those signs and they're not going to

1035
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:40.880
have it up their hillside, so that they gathered them

1036
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:43.159
all and shoved them in the ground. And I mean

1037
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.280
they're in the freaking ground they put them way in

1038
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:47.800
when they shoved them in all the way up this

1039
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.719
it's a crevice that kind of comes together up the hill,

1040
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.920
and it's I mean, it's really steep in there, all

1041
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.800
the way up this, and like I said, you couldn't

1042
01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:01.280
walk up that, so I anyways, it just defies imagination

1043
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:04.679
how they got there. So we'll we're going, okay, well,

1044
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.920
let's let's keep rolling. So we roll up about another

1045
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:16.360
a couple of miles and still hearing something moving below,

1046
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.280
and then it kind of it kind of sounds like

1047
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.360
it veered off and headed out and it's not not

1048
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:26.239
parallel in it anymore. It just goes dead silent. Well,

1049
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:28.199
we come up to this, we're coming up this ridge

1050
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.960
and we're doing switchbacks and steep and steep climbs, and

1051
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:34.519
we get we get up to a switchback and there's

1052
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:41.079
a stump right here that is probably, I don't know,

1053
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:43.280
ten twelve feet tall. I got I have it on camera.

1054
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:51.039
It's about three feet around, probably fairly fresh cut on it.

1055
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.000
It looks like the top broke off of it, though

1056
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.840
if I remember right, that the top was broke off,

1057
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.920
but it was fairly flat across the top now maybe missed,

1058
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.519
maybe it was cut. I don't know, but I thought

1059
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:04.480
I saw a little a little bit of jagged pieces

1060
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:06.880
on it. On top of that is a rock stack,

1061
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.119
stack of rocks. There's like five or six of them,

1062
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:13.519
and they go from big to small. At the top

1063
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:20.280
and about halfway up from the ground, there's a tree

1064
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:26.679
limb probably about that big around and about and I

1065
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.079
think it's about ten feet long. And it shoved right

1066
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:33.159
through the side of that tree, right right dead center

1067
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:38.159
across it, I mean through it, and it's sticking out

1068
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:45.679
the other side there. There's no explanation for that. I

1069
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:49.199
mean I went up to it, couldn't move it. There's yeah,

1070
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:51.920
good luck explaining that one. And that wood was not

1071
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:55.039
really that rotten on the stomp. It was still a

1072
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:58.559
fairly solid stomp. So we took pictures of it, and

1073
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:00.599
I got it on video of course, because I I'm

1074
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:04.920
running camera and on GoPro and I got it. I

1075
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:08.079
think guy's running two k or four k. But anyways,

1076
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.960
my girlfriend behind me goes, look at this, and I

1077
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:18.159
turn around and there's like twenty or thirty. And the

1078
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.480
more you look, the more you see these little rock

1079
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:22.960
piles and they look just like the big one up

1080
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:26.800
on the stump, but they're half that size, and they're

1081
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.760
up the hillside off the trail on the left, and

1082
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.480
some of them are hidden behind the ferns, and there's

1083
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.239
tons of ferns in there, and some aren't. Just standing

1084
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.360
at the trail, you could probably see fifteen or twenty

1085
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.199
of them, but when you look in the ferns, there's

1086
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:44.960
that many more all over this corner, on this turn

1087
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:48.639
that goes up this hill, and we're just like wow.

1088
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:50.159
You know, the more you look, the more you see,

1089
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.000
and we're thinking, well, you know, is this a nursery

1090
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.639
or something where kids were playing? And you know, somebody

1091
01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:02.119
dad's showing off or whatever. But we're just wow, this

1092
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.719
is you know, got it all on camera again. So

1093
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:08.599
and a few steel shots, but we decide, well, let's

1094
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:14.400
let's keep going up. We're losing light, and it's the

1095
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:16.159
sun had gone over the ridge, so it's starting to

1096
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:19.840
get to that point where you have, you know, just

1097
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:22.559
past the golden hour, you probably got about half hour

1098
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:26.599
maybe forty minutes of light left before it gets dark

1099
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:28.960
enough you can barely see the trail or can't see

1100
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.039
it at all. So we still have quite a bit

1101
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.840
of light left, we think, because you know, we figured

1102
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:36.519
we could be down to the three rivers at about

1103
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:43.480
twenty minutes. So we we head up further up the hill.

1104
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:50.719
We get about a half mile above that that stump,

1105
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.440
and and the hill's really steep in there. It's it's

1106
01:05:55.519 --> 01:06:00.480
probably almost at a forty five, maybe maybe steeper than

1107
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.239
a forty five, and it comes down to the trail.

1108
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.480
The trail's flat, and then at another forty five off

1109
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.880
the other side a bunch of old growth you know,

1110
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.519
uphill and downhill. But the trees are you know, one

1111
01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:13.880
hundred feet away from the trail on the downhill side,

1112
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:16.119
so just the tops of them are kind of level

1113
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:20.159
with us, and you know, when they go up fifty

1114
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:24.360
feet above, you know where we're at up And anyways,

1115
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:27.159
I'm just kind of kind of setting the scene here

1116
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:31.239
for this. So we come up. We come up this

1117
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:36.440
trail and it's a straightaway that goes for several hundred

1118
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:39.719
feet and and so it's a straight away and I'm

1119
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:42.880
looking up at and I'm out front on my e

1120
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.559
bike and we'd just cluck across about a three foot

1121
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:50.360
tall log that was crossed. Later it fell across the

1122
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:52.679
path further down. I had to lift my bike over it.

1123
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:54.559
The horse had to step over it. And that was

1124
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:59.280
that was probably five hundred feet below I'm guessing about

1125
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:02.039
five hundred feet uh where we where we were at

1126
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:08.440
right here. So we stop, or I stop because I'm

1127
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.599
ahead of me on the on this narrow trail that

1128
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:15.159
we're staying on. That's it's probably about a foot wide.

1129
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.320
And then it dropped starts to drop and and you

1130
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:22.000
got your uphill side on this trail. There's about and

1131
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:24.599
i'd have to look at the video, I'm guessing maybe

1132
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:27.840
five or six logs laying across it that are are

1133
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000
some of them are that big around some are that

1134
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.119
bigg around and and maybe a smaller one or two,

1135
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.159
but they're kind of interlaced with each other, and they're

1136
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:40.000
about ten feet long. Some of them are shorter, but

1137
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:42.800
they're all interlaced, so like if you touch one, the

1138
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.880
whole thing's gonna go down the hill. And there's nowhere

1139
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:47.679
to put them. So like if I, if I, if

1140
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.639
I pull them off, it's going to be some of

1141
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:52.559
them are so heavy, I don't know that I can

1142
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:57.719
lift them, but but there it's going to be hard

1143
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.920
to set them uphill and not have the rest of

1144
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.639
them fall off the ridge right there because they're like

1145
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:06.360
supporting each other. It was just it's like a booby trap.

1146
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.920
It was the strangest thing. So again, I got all

1147
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.559
this on camera, so i'm i'm I'm looking at this,

1148
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:15.440
and I look back at my girlfriend who comes up

1149
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.760
behind me on the horse, and I tell her, hey, baby,

1150
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.159
this is bad. We can't move forward with these in

1151
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:25.359
the trail. I got to move them. And when I

1152
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:27.960
move them the way they're intertwined, you know, there's a

1153
01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:30.439
chance they're going to roll off this ridge, you know.

1154
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:31.920
And I don't want to just roll them off the

1155
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.800
ridge because because if I roll them off the ridge.

1156
01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:38.680
I'm having a lighting problem, which is weird. This battery

1157
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:47.079
should last like ten hours anyways, So I have to

1158
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:48.720
I have to lift them up and set them on

1159
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:50.800
the uphill side, straight up and down. Because I put

1160
01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.680
them in an angle, they're just gonna roll off. So

1161
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:55.640
so I tell her, you know, once you back the

1162
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:59.159
horse up aways and I'm just afraid these are going

1163
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.800
to roll, so for it. Because the horse gets startled

1164
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:05.319
pretty easy, right, So I go to move the first

1165
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:08.680
the first piece, and I just get it up off

1166
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.960
the others, and the whole thing goes off the hill

1167
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:16.239
and it makes I mean, it sounds like all hell

1168
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.720
broke lis. It sounds like I rolled up a Toyota

1169
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:21.640
pickup truck down the hill. I just crash boom, and

1170
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:25.000
they're going end over end and just threw the brush

1171
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.279
one hundred feet down that it starts to slow them down,

1172
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:31.880
and they just keep going. And it made the biggest racket.

1173
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:33.640
I mean, if you wanted to make the most racket

1174
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:37.520
you can, that's what you would do. So the horse,

1175
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:41.960
I'm afraid of she's gonna get hurt. So I look

1176
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:44.279
back at her, and the horse is kind of dancing

1177
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:48.600
a little bit, and then it decides it wants to

1178
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:50.680
turn around, so it puts a couple of feet up

1179
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:53.279
on the upper bank and then turns around and starts

1180
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:56.079
heading down. She slows the horse and gets it turned

1181
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:58.960
around and starts coming back up the trail. So at

1182
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:05.560
this point she's probably fifty feet behind me on the trail,

1183
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:09.640
and well, now the logs are gone, so trail's open.

1184
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:11.880
So I get on my bike and I start to

1185
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.960
head up the trail a little bit. So she comes

1186
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:20.760
up to about where the logs were, and I'm probably

1187
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:23.560
seventy five feet out in front of her. On a

1188
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:25.239
go Pro, it looks like a lot more because go

1189
01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:27.880
Pro shoot wide vision, so anyways, it looks like I'm

1190
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.319
a lot further, but I'm not. And all of a sudden,

1191
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:35.600
on the hillside above me, like about a hundred and

1192
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:39.840
fifty feet up, I hear po pop pop, like a

1193
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.159
tree breaking right. So on the first pop, I look

1194
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:47.439
up hill and this is what I see. I see

1195
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:50.199
a bigfoot shoving a tree over and it was probably

1196
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:57.079
nine to ten foot tall. Massive, just massive. Some people say,

1197
01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:59.119
you know, they look like a bodybuilder. They come in

1198
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.600
and to v this one had a little bit of

1199
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.439
v to it, but I mean it was you know,

1200
01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:08.079
it looked like it was about four feet around and giant,

1201
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:12.520
giant legs on it and arms, huge arms. And I

1202
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:16.399
watched it go like this this and then shove it.

1203
01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:19.920
And what it did was there was an old snag there.

1204
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:23.479
You know, snag is a tree that maybe the top

1205
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:26.159
broke off and so the bottom kind of rotted up. Well,

1206
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:29.000
the snag was I don't know, thirty forty feet tall,

1207
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.960
and it broke it off right right at its base

1208
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:38.479
and shoved it over. It went push, push, push, and

1209
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:42.119
I watched it do the the the two pushes before

1210
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:44.960
it shoved it, and it completely broke off and made

1211
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:49.279
it pop up. When it finally broke and the tree

1212
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:53.399
fell down, and the tree was pointed right at our horse,

1213
01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:58.000
and it was far enough up the hill. When the

1214
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.000
tree hit the ground, it kind of bounced and slid

1215
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:04.960
slid down towards the horse. It still stopped maybe fifty

1216
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.199
feet away, seventy five feet away. I don't know if

1217
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:12.159
that was its intention or not, but that's what happened,

1218
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:18.960
and the horse tripped, it reared up. My girlfriend almost

1219
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.800
came off the back of it. And it went down.

1220
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.760
It reared up again and again. I have all this

1221
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:30.920
on camera, but I almost watched my girlfriend die right there,

1222
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:44.319
and it was it's really hard to watch and freaking light.

1223
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:52.439
And so luckily the horse it kept landing on the

1224
01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:55.760
uphill side of the trail. Thank got it didn't step

1225
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.520
one step backwards in it. They would both be dead.

1226
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.880
And it we rear up, come down land, rear up,

1227
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:05.720
come downland, and it was trying to turn around and

1228
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:12.640
point downhill. Once it got pointed downhill gone, and I'm

1229
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:18.439
I'm just standing there. Uh, I'm stunned by what happened.

1230
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:22.319
I wasn't like like terrified stunned. I was just like

1231
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:27.720
my girlfriend almost died, stunned. And then all of a sudden,

1232
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:31.560
this the terror comes over me. You know, I'm stuck up.

1233
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:35.359
Her horse is gone. I'm up, I'm up on this hillside.

1234
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:39.640
And what am I doing? Man? Why is this worth it?

1235
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:42.520
You know? And And what do I do next? And

1236
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:46.279
I thought, well, I brought these apples with me and

1237
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.000
I have them. I have them in a front pack

1238
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:51.119
of bag on my bike. And I pulled out an

1239
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:54.279
apple and I took one of those toys and I

1240
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:57.199
shoved it in the apple, and I shoved the apple

1241
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.479
on a stick that was sticking up, and I started

1242
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:04.199
going down the trail a little ways further down. I

1243
01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:07.760
just dropped an apple on the trail, and I dropped

1244
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.319
a couple of these toys here and there. I was

1245
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.560
just trying to give them something besides me to focus on.

1246
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:19.279
And I can hear it when it after it pushed

1247
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:21.199
the tree down, it turned and went up the hill.

1248
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:24.640
It went up the opposite direction of where I was at,

1249
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:27.760
So it was if she's here and it's right above her,

1250
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.439
I was further up the trail over here, and so

1251
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:32.960
it was up here. It walked off that way, which

1252
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:37.359
would be our downhill, above our downhill descent. So it

1253
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:39.640
went into the trees up there, and I mean, it's

1254
01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:44.680
like it just disappeared, like in three steps, it was gone.

1255
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:49.880
And I can hear it moving around up there, and

1256
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:52.359
it's not happy. It's breaking brush and stuff, and it's

1257
01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:55.199
it's walking along that ridge headed downhill. And I could

1258
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:58.279
tell it's walking because it's not moving that fast, but

1259
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.119
neither is the horse because there's the log laying across

1260
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.239
the trail. A little waist down got my light completely

1261
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.920
went out. How strange we get down to where this

1262
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.000
log was across the path that was it was, you know,

1263
01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:12.239
several hundred feet down, five hundred feet, I don't know,

1264
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:15.800
but it's a ways down from the mess we just saw.

1265
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:22.119
And the horse wouldn't cross the log. And that horse

1266
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:24.560
never stops at a log, but it didn't want across

1267
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.319
this one. It didn't want to go first. And you

1268
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:30.479
know down below it's a switch back, and I'm hearing

1269
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:33.840
noise down below, and my girlfriend's like, you got to

1270
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.640
get out ahead, because the horse absolutely is not moving forward.

1271
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:38.840
It's just sitting there, spinning around in front of this

1272
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:42.560
big log. And so I carry my bike over the

1273
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:45.520
top of the log. I set an apple down uphill

1274
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:50.560
and dropped some toys by the log, and the horse

1275
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:54.479
came over the top and then down it went. So

1276
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:58.119
we're going down the hill and I'm hearing the crashing

1277
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:02.159
in the trees above us. Now I'm hearing below us,

1278
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.720
and uh, you know, it's a couple hundred feet down

1279
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:07.520
the hill below us, a couple hundred feet up the

1280
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:10.760
hill above us, and it's just thick with trees in there.

1281
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:12.279
And I mean, you can see on my video what

1282
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:19.760
it's like. But we get we get down to the river.

1283
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.439
The first of three, I hear I hear a whoop

1284
01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:26.439
up above on the rock ledge that's up up above

1285
01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:31.039
the river, up to the right, and we we crossed

1286
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:36.159
the rivers and then it it just goes dead silent,

1287
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:41.199
and like it was. It was so weird because some

1288
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:43.359
of these times in it, you know, thinking back, this

1289
01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:46.439
has happened before. It's so quiet that like even my

1290
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:51.520
footsteps sound muffled, and I don't know what's going on.

1291
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.520
But I mean, when it goes quiet, it is freaking quiet,

1292
01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:59.279
and it's almost like you have headphones on too, and

1293
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.239
and can't hear your own movement, you know, and things

1294
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:05.239
around you. It's it's just strange. So anyways, it was

1295
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:08.920
like that all the way back to camp. So we

1296
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:16.279
get back to camp and I'm my girlfriend's she she's like,

1297
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.359
I'll never go up there again. They you know, almost

1298
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:23.079
killed me this time. So we're not me and the horse.

1299
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:25.960
We're done, no more, no more up that side. She

1300
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.720
says she'll go up the front side because it feels

1301
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:31.079
more friendly when she goes up there, and she she

1302
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:36.680
has these this uh feeling she she around animals, horses,

1303
01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:41.399
different things. She she can sense, you know, if they're

1304
01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:44.720
happy or not. And she's saying on that back side,

1305
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:47.840
there's no happiness at all. So uh so she'll do

1306
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:50.640
the front still. I just say that because I'm trying

1307
01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:52.960
to get you to go up someday with me. But anyways,

1308
01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:57.479
uh so, so we get back to camp and and

1309
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:01.520
I'm telling the story about what happened, and I'm I'm

1310
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:06.039
a I'm discombobulated. I'm I'm upset, and I'm telling these guys,

1311
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:09.159
you know, the things almost killed us. You know this sucked.

1312
01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:11.359
I watched it, you know, I pushed this tree over.

1313
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:13.039
And I you know, one guy in the group so,

1314
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:14.640
oh well they can do that, you know, they can

1315
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:18.600
make that noise, you know, with their mouth or whatever.

1316
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.159
And I'm like, dude, I watched it push the tree over.

1317
01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:24.239
I saw it do it. This. This ain't a noise

1318
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:27.039
out of something's mouth. The tree almost hit my horse.

1319
01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:30.640
And and he's, well, you know who calmed down? Calmed down?

1320
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.279
You know you want to walk back down to the river. No,

1321
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:37.000
I don't want to go down to the rivers. No, No,

1322
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.479
you could wear my shirt. Here, here's my shirt. You

1323
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:41.640
could be you could ride my bike, take my shirt.

1324
01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.640
You can be that guy. I'll let you. Oh I'm

1325
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:48.039
gonna do that. I'm like, Okay, then I guess I

1326
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.800
guess we have an understanding. So anyways, I I was,

1327
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:55.960
I was, I was pretty upset. I was distraught, pretty

1328
01:18:55.960 --> 01:19:00.439
bad that one. That one, uh that it made me

1329
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:04.319
feel like I was probably as close to one of

1330
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:08.399
these things taking us out as as as ever. And

1331
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.680
I'm not so sure how pleasant these things are anymore.

1332
01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:17.159
And you know, it just kind of shook me up

1333
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:26.640
really bad. And and so, uh, that night, our our friend, uh,

1334
01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:31.199
my my friend John, he has this big, gosh it

1335
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.039
I think it's an Australian shepherd, great, great, big, biggest

1336
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.720
one I've ever seen. She's getting a little bit up

1337
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:40.000
in the age though, And it was we weren't sure

1338
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:42.039
Cloud started company. We weren't sure if it's gonna be

1339
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:44.680
wet or not. And so I told him, well, why

1340
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:47.079
don't you sleep under our big awning that you know,

1341
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:48.880
we have this thirty foot onting that comes off the

1342
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.119
side of our trailer, said why don't you why don't

1343
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:54.159
you go ahead and sleep under that and that way

1344
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:57.920
if a rage you'll be dry and and uh and

1345
01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:01.760
you know, everything will be good. And he says, okay, yeah,

1346
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:09.319
that sounds great. So we we tire out. You know,

1347
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:13.119
we eat food, not really hearing any noises around camp.

1348
01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:15.439
But that is just dead silent all the rest of

1349
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:28.039
the night. So I have I have this I ray.

1350
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:33.279
This is a heat vision fifty millimeters this thing. I

1351
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:37.800
it at a couple hundred yards. I can tell how

1352
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:43.159
many points are on a deer. It's extremely, extremely great lens. Anyways,

1353
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:44.920
I put it on a tripod and I aim it

1354
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.880
right at our horses. I have yet to play video

1355
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:54.439
from that night off of that thing, but we've seen

1356
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:57.920
weird things in the past at night that that picks

1357
01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:03.640
up heat signatures that are just odd. And I guess

1358
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:05.560
what I'm getting at is I have that pointing out

1359
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:08.479
the side that the awnings on. I have it set

1360
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:11.720
up on a tripod, recessed back in the trailer so

1361
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:15.079
nobody would know it's there. It's behind the window, but

1362
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:19.520
the windows open. That night, we go to sleep, wake

1363
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:21.640
up the next morning and I go out to unplug

1364
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:25.920
the generator and something pissed on the side of our trailer,

1365
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:28.439
on the opposite side from where my friend was sleeping

1366
01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:32.319
and I have pictures of it. It's at least a

1367
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:36.039
gallon of piss and it pissed like eight feet in

1368
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:38.479
the airs where the top marks are. But you can

1369
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.079
see it sprayed in one spot pretty much up and

1370
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:44.439
then at Niagara down and you could see it was yellow. You,

1371
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.920
I mean you could see it was piss. But it

1372
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:49.840
peed all over the side of the trailer. I guess

1373
01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:52.439
it was showing us, you know, hey, got you while

1374
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:59.880
you're sleeping or whatever, but it marked us. And so anyways,

1375
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:02.760
so that was the end of twenty twenty four, and

1376
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:06.720
the takeaway on twenty twenty four was, now, we don't

1377
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:08.319
go up that back to at least she won't with

1378
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:12.159
the horse. I'm trying to get up. If I find

1379
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:14.520
somebody that can, first of all hike that far out

1380
01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:17.439
and then go up the hill on top of that

1381
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:21.319
crossing three rivers, I'll take them up there. But I'm

1382
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:23.199
not going to go that far up. I'll go up

1383
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:26.560
a ways, but I just it creeps me out now

1384
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.680
too much. But I'll go up the front side, you know,

1385
01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.479
and if somebody else has an e bike, you know,

1386
01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:37.800
a four you know, a four inch fat tire that

1387
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:40.359
can climb like mine does. I'll take them, you know,

1388
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:43.840
as far as they want to go. But so anyways,

1389
01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:46.960
what the takeaway from that was, these things are not

1390
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.840
safe anymore, and you really got to watch yourself around them.

1391
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:54.159
You know, it was a sight seeing thing before. It

1392
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:57.439
kind of isn't that anymore now that this happened. We're

1393
01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.720
just and maybe you know, its intention was to have

1394
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.199
her go off the cliff, but it wasn't smart enough

1395
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:06.720
to know that that would happen if its intention was

1396
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:11.920
to not do that. And I just you know, she's

1397
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:13.239
not going to risk her life to go up and

1398
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:15.319
see these things. So I don't and I don't blame her.

1399
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:18.760
But that's been in twenty twenty four, real quick, I know,

1400
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:20.560
only have a few minutes. In twenty twenty five we

1401
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:25.199
went back. Not much happened, just real quick. In twenty

1402
01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:28.760
five this last summer went up, stayed in a different place.

1403
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:33.680
I did have another siding. Went out at twilight on

1404
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:37.079
a Friday, riding my bike back. I saw two looking

1405
01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:40.319
through the brush at the meadow, which I've never seen

1406
01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:43.079
them do that before. Their heads were like the size

1407
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:47.159
of watermelons and jet black, and at two in the morning.

1408
01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:50.119
That night I heard a voice and it sounded just

1409
01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:53.239
like my friend for John, And I heard John's voice

1410
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:56.920
say a sentence crystal clear, just right outside my window

1411
01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:01.399
of our trailer. And next morning I asked John, Hey,

1412
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:03.560
were you messing around it too? In the morning He's like, oh, no,

1413
01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:07.000
I slept through last night, but so something mimicked his

1414
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:10.760
voice perfectly. I'm perfect. And I thought it was John

1415
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.600
screwing around outside, but it wasn't. So that's what happened

1416
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.239
in twenty five. So in twenty six we're going back.

1417
01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.000
Joe Bielert will be there, inviting Tom Paal. He may

1418
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:22.720
or may not go, depend on what he's up to.

1419
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:27.680
Always invite Cliff Berrickman. He's he's kind of an old

1420
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:33.399
contact for me and uh and I try to try

1421
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:36.760
to get new people, but it's hard to find somebody

1422
01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:40.359
that is open minded enough to go up up there

1423
01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:45.239
to see these things. And you know, it's now I

1424
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:47.720
realize it's it's it's not a sight seeing tour. It's

1425
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:51.079
not a game anymore. It's it's you. You You're on

1426
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.000
a mission when you're up there, and you got to

1427
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:57.159
be careful. It's there's no telling what these things will

1428
01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:59.199
do and like I said, I've seen him throw boulders

1429
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:03.439
up in trees and do different things, push trees over.

1430
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:09.159
It's a it's not real safe. I just did not.

1431
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:15.000
It's like, after you have that twenty twenty four situation. Yeah,

1432
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.840
your your entire mindset would have to be different that

1433
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.920
It's kind of like there was a line that was crossed.

1434
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.760
You just got to be really aware of what could

1435
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:28.039
happen exactly exactly.

1436
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:32.319
It tripped me out. Now for if you'll have me

1437
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:35.439
back one more time, I do I have some other

1438
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:41.920
scary for the lack of other words, encounters that I

1439
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:44.279
know of other people had, I'd.

1440
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:49.079
Love to have you back on definitely. I Mean the

1441
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:54.159
main question I have before we, before we and our

1442
01:25:54.199 --> 01:26:02.159
time is if you experienced that in twenty twenty four, why,

1443
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.479
what's your what's your main goal in going back now

1444
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.600
that you know, I mean, that's a that's a really

1445
01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:13.279
traumatic experience, almost seeing your girlfriend and her horse pretty

1446
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:18.199
much be done on the side of that hill.

1447
01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:23.479
Yeah, I don't know. You know, why did I go

1448
01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:29.239
back after twenty nineteen. It's just there's something about the

1449
01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:34.319
mystery of these things that I I just, uh, you know,

1450
01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:36.720
first of all, I like the camaraderie of my friends

1451
01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:38.720
being with me when I go up there and we

1452
01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:42.399
we get caught up on current events, you know, bigfoot events.

1453
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:48.680
But that that one I got caught her on camera

1454
01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:51.800
pushing the tree down. It was back behind two other

1455
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:55.039
trees and and go pro suck and it looks like

1456
01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:57.319
a blob squatch. You could see the tree come down

1457
01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:01.079
and stuff. And you know, somebody with better video capability

1458
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:04.159
than me could probably get a much better picture. But

1459
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:06.880
you know, I thought, wow, this beats the crap out

1460
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:10.520
of the Patterson Gimlin film. I mean, it's hands down.

1461
01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:15.239
I was way closer. And because it wasn't you know,

1462
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:19.279
an eight millimeter film, it was a pos go pro.

1463
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.199
It turns out all blobby. You know, it's just digital sucks.

1464
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:28.000
But I guess in the end, for some reason, I

1465
01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.000
want to get video confirmation, undeniable video confirmation for me

1466
01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:35.119
if nothing else. And you know, I'm not trying to

1467
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:37.520
make a million bucks or nothing. I just you know,

1468
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.079
I haven't made any money to this point. We just

1469
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:43.039
race horses and this is a side hobby of us

1470
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:47.520
going up there. But yeah, I guess I just want

1471
01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:51.319
I just want video because the engineers I work with

1472
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:54.399
they're like, oh bs, bs, I'm like, really, bring you

1473
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.840
brown pants. I'll take you someplace. I'll take you someplace

1474
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.479
you've never seen before. And they're all so shock.

1475
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:08.119
So it's such a it's it's a wild wild like

1476
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:12.159
the whole story is incredible when you you look at

1477
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:16.279
the entire thing after hearing all the experiences, it's just

1478
01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:21.319
such an interesting account. And uh yeah, Gary, we will

1479
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:25.760
well definitely have you back on to to go over

1480
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:29.199
what you've heard from other areas as well. And I'm

1481
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:33.560
excited to see what comes out of this area in

1482
01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:36.319
the future as well. Thank you for for hanging out

1483
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:39.680
with us one more time, Gary, I do appreciate it

1484
01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:42.720
my pleasure. Have you ever heard all the accounts of

1485
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:47.000
bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man,

1486
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.520
I would love to get out in those woods and

1487
01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:54.560
experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1488
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.199
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1489
01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:03.079
pretty cool. Saskatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1490
01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:07.239
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

1491
01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:11.119
better than the previous year's reason number one. I'll be

1492
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.279
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

1493
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:19.600
I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard

1494
01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:25.760
anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you

1495
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:28.279
just gotta be there. We'll leave at that. More about

1496
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:31.119
looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out.

1497
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:37.039
You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching

1498
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:41.319
for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go

1499
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:45.640
to the festival, but you can also sign up for

1500
01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:52.680
a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge

1501
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:57.640
with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot.

1502
01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:01.800
There's only eight spots to s up for this, and yes,

1503
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.560
this will also be filmed for the next chapter in

1504
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:09.000
his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is

1505
01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:11.520
a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's

1506
01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:16.439
going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

1507
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.800
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

1508
01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:26.359
can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

1509
01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:28.960
in order to get a two day pass for the

1510
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:33.199
price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

1511
01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:38.199
for giving me that code. So that you guys can

1512
01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:43.279
can get a little a little help with the costs there.

1513
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:47.159
Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

1514
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:51.279
booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter.

1515
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:53.880
Was able to talk to so many people last year

1516
01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:58.119
and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

1517
01:30:58.159 --> 01:30:59.880
not going to want to miss it, and I'll see it.

1518
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:04.840
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1519
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:08.119
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1520
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.880
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1521
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:14.760
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1522
01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:18.079
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1523
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:21.079
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1524
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:24.399
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1525
01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:28.000
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

1526
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:31.239
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1527
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.680
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1528
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.000
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1529
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:42.359
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1530
01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:45.520
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1531
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:49.000
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1532
01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:52.920
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1533
01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:56.279
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1534
01:31:56.840 --> 01:31:59.319
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1535
01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:03.600
spiritual and you saw something that shook your faith, or

1536
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.079
if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or anything

1537
01:32:07.079 --> 01:32:11.520
with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, then

1538
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.880
I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1539
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:20.199
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1540
01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:23.039
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1541
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:28.840
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1542
01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:30.119
We've got the mic.

1543
01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:32.479
See you in the woods.

1544
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.119
Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

1545
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:38.159
Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the

1546
01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:41.279
world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that

1547
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:43.960
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1548
01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:47.319
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1556
01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:10.600
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1557
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:14.279
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1558
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1565
01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:40.119
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1566
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:42.960
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1567
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:44.640
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