When the Night Howled Back: My Experience with the Unknown in East Texas

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and now let's get on with the

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show. All right, Big Fat
Society, You've got the privilege of talking

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to Darren today. Darren is a
listener who reached out to me from Central

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Texas via email about some really interesting
things that he has experienced over the years.

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But Darren, I'm glad that you're
able to come on this show,

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and I'm going to go ahead and
give it right over to you, my

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friend. Okay, I appreciate it, appreciate being on the show again.

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I don't know really where to start. I guess you know, the first

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experience are really you know, can
confiding. I went down to visit my

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brother in law down in East Texas. He was a paramedic. I had

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the small fire department everything, and
he has a moth time. So went

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down there, going to visit with
him in a while. I hadn't seen

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him, and we was gonna do
a little a little honting in that.

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We always loved going cole hunting doing
you know, calling up kayokes with a

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electronic recorder, you know, using
a wounded rabbit noise or or a coyle

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locator. That's imma takes a pack
of cows howling to get a response out

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of other ones. I probably got
down there that evening, probably around I

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don't know, maybe seven o'clock.
It was there in the one time I

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think it was. I think it
was already January, and it was pretty

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cold. We had a little ice
on the ground. Well, we sat

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around there at the house to baiting
where we wanted to go call. He

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talked about he had a new place
that's never been honey on. He's drove

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down there and looked at it during
the day, walked around. He said

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it was pretty nice. He had
a real nice open clearing. It was

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kind of down in a low spot. There was hills around, a lot

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of trees on one part, had
a lot of swampy area. But he

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was talking about how kind of nice
it was. The grass wasn't very tall.

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There freeze about every thing else,
so everything was laying down. We

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could see good. We got our
stuff together. We usually call out the

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back of the pick up something like
that that we're not familiar with. We'll

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go down and park kind of middle
of the clearing. That way, he

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got a good three hundred and sixty
degree do you around you it's kind of

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evenly spaced out to the tree line. When we were driving down there and

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we noticed, you know, we
was talking, I mentioned the moon.

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The moon was pretty bright that night. I mean, well, I actually

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real bright. That was kind of
concerning to me. I mentioned it to

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him. I really don't like going
calling when it's full moon. You really

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don't have no luck, you know
much. And boys getting predator like cayos

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or podcasts come into you because they
can spot you and see you real easy

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in new spotlights. That way,
you know, gives us a little bit

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of bandage a lot with the red
linbs. It kind of it kind of

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hides your our profile, blinding the
animal a little bit. That way,

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he can't really see maybe what's going
on. Anyway, we get down there,

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we park in the middle. We
slowly got out of the truck.

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He got in the back. I
handed handed in his gunn and then you

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know, I handed him bend.
I put the electronic collar up on top

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of the cab of the truck.
I went around back, climbed on in

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the back of the pick up.
We were just sitting there whispering, trying

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to each other by how bright that
moon was and how far you could actually

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see. Once we got down there
and our eyes got adjusted, I mean,

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you probably see a good fifty yards
easily and make out everything, make

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out details, you know, far
as anything around and bigger stuff you probably

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see out further, you know,
pretty easily. Anyway, the side of

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started out, but we got our
stuff situation on top of the cab there

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out the guns in a safe spot, tire lights up there. We shine

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light minute just to get a better
idea of everything that's around, because I

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hadn't really seen the place during the
daytime, and to make sure there's nothing

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out there. You know anyway,
there wasn't no kind to any kind of

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form equipment or cows or anything like
that. We always real safe while we're

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doing and we wasn't no houses around
for miles and doesn't want to get things

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about it hadn't never been hunted old
supposedly, And anyway, I get this

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electronic collar set up. I decided
I wasn't play it a Kyo pack calling.

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They knew this little running howl and
you know this little vocals that sounds

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just like Kyle Pack in that distance. Anyway, I hit that play button

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there and it goes to the sequence. It probably runs maybe eight to twelve

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seconds long, or is the vocalization, and then it goes into a Paul's

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mode. It gives you time to
hear any response from another pack of cows

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way off in the distance, howling
back at you, or long trio or

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anything like that. So I played
it. It was over. It was

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in that Polo's sequence, and I
just kind of remember just looked, you

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know, kind of looking at brother
in law whispering, and I was like,

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you know, I just kind of
got a weird feeling, and I

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think like she's just like what,
you know, like what kind of word

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feeling, you know, I just
I don't know, I just got a

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weird feeling, and I said,
I was probably nothing, so probably about

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I don't know. Thirty and forty
seconds go by and nothing. The recorder

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starts playing the noise again, the
most realizations, and then it just as

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soon as it went into Paul's mode. On that second one, I'm I'm

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gonna say, probably about three hundred
yards away on top of the hill,

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and the house started out, I
mean it started out it sounded like a

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wolf, like a wolf house,
you know, like a lone wolf.

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I mean it was loud, it
was deep, and it just kind of

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kept getting you know, like still
like more strength behind it, and you

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know how like a lone wolf.
Probably about four or five seconds then the

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house started turning into like a almost
like a roaring noise, like if you

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ever heard of African line and how
they roar on dB or whatever, wanting

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to that and without you know,
skipping a beat. No there was no

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Pauley between these different vocalization noises.
They went from that roaring said like snarling,

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growling, like humping noise, It's
all into one. And we just

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kind of looked at each other like
you know, what was that? And

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it's like it's like it sounded like
what what the hell was all that other?

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You know? And I said there
thinking, I was like, man,

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I ain't never heard nothing like that. And it was like you feel

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that strong? That was He's like, yeah, it vibrated about Yes.

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I was like, if they have
mine too? And that was pretty good

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ways off, you know, three
hundred yards or so by our guestament.

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And we sat there listening, didn't
hear anything else. We hadn't turned on

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any spotlights on at the time because
we could, you know, let's say,

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see pretty good. And in the
recorder, you know, he was

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still playing and went in coming out
of that Paul session and went directly back

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into the the kind of old vocalizations. And and as soon as it got

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through playing that, Uh now from
what d it moved in the move or

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there was two I don't know when
this's and that's kind of you know,

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confused just a while, but it
moved from her left over to our right

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about one hundred yards away and just
inside the tree line. Uh. But

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how it started off just like that, just like before, like a deep

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lone wolf how into like a lion
war in the growl and snorl and shuf

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at the end of it. I
mean, it's I mean, it's really

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hard to describe that noise. It
just sounded unreable. And it's like and

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I'm you know, my brother in
law he said a few choice words.

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You know, we wasn't really talking
loud. He's whispering. But I look

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at him. I was like,
I mean, my comment was, it

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sounds like we're offer a werewolf movie. I mean, that's what it sounds

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like. And he's like, yeah, he said, I was thinking that

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too, you know, werewolf movie. You know, you know, we

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were sitting there trying to make sense
of that, and you know, it

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scared us. Oh. I brother
in law started backing up a little bit,

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you know, he had to ready, and I went ahead and I

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grabbed the spotlight and I started shining
it looking around a direction and all around

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us really, so I thought,
well, you know, if it's doing

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this, it was over here,
and you know this time, maybe two

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or three minutes later, it's over
here in a total different spot. That's

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probably what I had to travel,
probably five or six hundred yards it goes

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around us to be in that position. In the soul. You know.

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I was looking all around, you
know, behind us, side of us,

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everything, and didn't see nothing.
Didn't see no eye shine. We

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kind of sat there a little bit, you know, debate, know what

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we're going to do. And well, let's say it was pride. I

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mean it, it's straight from nerves. Already kind of had a bad feeling,

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and I was like, we both
agreed. We triggered. I jumped

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out and picked up he handed my
gun, opened the cab up, and

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she handed me his gun. He
jumped out and I stuck both the guns

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and a cab. We got in
a truck and I franked it up.

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Kind of set there a second,
you know, still debating, you know,

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you know what is that? I
mean, it just were scared,

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but we're still like, you know, trying to figure it out. Well,

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he's like, I don't know.
We talked about it as we go.

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So we went ahead and we didn't
see it on ice shiner and we

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didn't see nothing. We went ahead
and we got up out of there.

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And he didn't really live that far
from the area. It was. It

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was pretty close to in these teches, kind of right at the top lakes

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down in that area. I ain't
gonna say the landowner's name. You know,

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we barely had permission, and we
wasn't on telling anybody else, you

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know, about it, you know, just out of respect for the landowners.

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And when we was go into his
house, I said, I said,

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well we might are to keep driving
a little ways. One went on

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the highway. You know, I
just kept thinking, you know, as

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big as that sounded, in the
strength behind it, you know, what

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is the same? Whatever it was
followed us out of there, and you

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know, we had to go out
some gravel roads and stuff before you know,

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ever got out of there good and
got on the highway. You know,

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after we got on the highway,
it wasn't that part of his house.

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So we just kept on driving for
a little while, real trying to

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roll the back road, discussing,
you know, trying to figure it out

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what that was, and it just
you know, it no matter what you

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wanted to found. Uh, you
know, I was like, maybe it's

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bigfoot. Maybe that was a bigfoot
house. At the time, I didn't

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know anything about you know, about
men or supposedly you know, these different

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programs and stuff and different things have
been looking up. You know, we

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didn't know, I hadn't heard any
of anything about all that. Just all

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we ever heard was, you know
about bigfoot. You know, when the

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show Finding Bigfood first come on my
anner and everything else. You know,

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we'd watched that, entertain it,
you know, always kept open mind,

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you know, and yeah we were
during this whole time. We was discussing

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it to each other. We both
you know, it was like, man,

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that was a bigfoot. I mean
that was a weird freaking sound and

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everything else. But but kept on
going back to my head. It's like,

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man, it didn't sound like you
know, with any kind of vocalizations

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or anything else people's got recorded or
portage here or anything like that. It

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sounded like awarewolf, I mean,
chain on you. Yeah, sometime we

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get together, we talk about that, uh, discuss it, you know,

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still trying to make sense of it
today. And yeah, that's pretty

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much that was. Know what went
on that night, and that changed the

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way I see the dark. It
changed the way I look at things more

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than I realized at the time.
I used to be big on, you

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know, going hunting that night,
caut hunting like that. I still today

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might have only went cout hunt that
night one time since then, I don't

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let myself get off in the woods
after dark. If I'm in the woods,

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I got a gun on me and
carry flashlight also, just in case,

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you know, got caught up after
Dameric or whatever. But deer hunting,

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it took me a while to do
that, and I still will.

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I will not get up and go
to the stand deer stand before daylight anymore.

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I stopped bow hunting far as like
that. Only given a land let's

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around here, its core engineers laying
around here in our area, and he's

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supposed to carry no firearms in there. And this is you know, certain

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permit for a certain area hearing,
shotgun season or something like that. So

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I will not go bow hunting on
them any board because I can't carry lethally,

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I can't carry another good with me, a gun with me. You

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know, if you come up on
a game boarding or anybody else, you

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know, I'd be in trouble having
again. But during that time, yeah,

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it just pretty much change the way
I even do things around the house

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at night after dark. I mean
it's if I'm doing something outside, I

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keep my pistol on me h,
you know, especially this, you know,

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a long time during the summer and
everything. I'm over the yard at

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night because the heat it's real bad
here in Texas, and you know,

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do it at night because it's luck
Coodler. And even though I want to

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love lawn more, I keep my
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and there ain't many houses around me, and there's some wooded acres down below

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me creek line, but most of
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yeah, it is now. It
really affected me on the way I do

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things and just the way I think. Whatever that was, I you know,

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I didn't want to I don't want
to see it. Yeah, that's

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that's for sure, big for society. Who will be right back after these

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messages, Darren, I can tell
that hearing that really affected you quite a

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bit, and I'm not even sure
how I would take that myself. Do

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you mind if I ask you some
questions about what you've shared so far?

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Yeah, go ahead. So you
mentioned really quick that both of you said

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that it vibrated your chest. Is
that the main way that you were affected

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by hearing the vocal or did it
affect you in any other ways physically or

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mentally during that time that you remember? Not really, I can't remember any

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other different failings or anything. I've
heard people talk about your strange feelings or

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might get sick or feel something,
but it wouldn't nothing like they have both

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of us, you know, just
clear the high and everything. It was

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just loud and power, power throw
you know, excuse me, they're powerful

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and that just as it went on
in the deeper it got with the like

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roaring, growling, no I mean, you know you could, I mean

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you could feel it. Just it
was almost like having a you know,

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speaker up next to you or something, or or you know, you hear

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these cars driving by you in town
and stuff. They you know, they

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got their they got the base going
in their cars, and you just you

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know, you might not hear the
base that good, but you can feel

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it right, And that's win.
I how you feel it along with the

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noise. And to be that far
away you don't still do that. I

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mean, whatever could do that has
got to be huge. It was.

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You know, it wasn't no small
puppy out there just howl it at the

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moment or anything like that. Whatever
it was it was, it had to

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be huge to make that kind of
noise. You know. That's the only

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time I've heard that type of noise
or how I've helped with a guiding outfit

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in New Mexico up in that area
Toulorada, take people a little you know,

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out in the mountains and stuff.
And I'm there in the desert from

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Mexico around the lacers and travel camp
overnight different areas. You know. I'm

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I've done a lot of things over
you know, I guess my lifetime.

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I'm about to be fifty three,
hearing about about twenty third of this month,

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and you know, this is just
something I had no explanation for.

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Absolutely. You mentioned that there was
a kind of like a huff noise at

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the end of the vocalization that you
heard. Can you describe that that particular

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part of the the howl or the
roar in any other ways? Well,

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I mean I could try to imitate
it. You know, I'm not saying

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a little stupid here, but I
don't know that the how when it first

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started off, you know that lone
wolf howl, you know it, and

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it kept going and it turned into
like for more war, I mean,

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how and what like that? That's
the best way I can describe it.

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I get starting grow and just on
the end of it, gotcha, okay,

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very interesting and yeah, you know, just doing that at a tires

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stand up on my arm goosebox.
Mean, you know, it's a sound

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you ain't supposed to hear. It's
it's really interesting because it's like you're not

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sure if it's a big for a
dog man like I'm. I'm honestly not

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sure. I'm you know, like
me and him discussed. You know,

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it sounded came out, you know
what I mean. Yeah, you know,

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I'm I talked to him the first
time I actually kind of reach out

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to somebody trying to figure out different
things. Uh. I reached out,

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like I guess it's hard to say
Miguel on Sasquat's theory. Uh, reached

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out to him and we was talking
on the phone, even did a little

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you know, he had me on
his show telling him about it. And

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but you know when we was talking, he was talking about he had the

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same kind of experience the vocalation vocalization
that say on that howling and he could

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you know, contributed to that with
his dog man experience. And at that

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time, you know, this this
was last year probably it's probably been a

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year year. In a couple of
months, somewhere in there that yuh when

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I talked to him, yeah,
you know, that's the first time I

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ever heard about dog man, and
that that got me, you know,

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thinking everything else. It was like
then that's when I really started actually looking

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up stuff for a dog man or
maybe any kind of vocalizations thing they had

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recorded, or or the way they
talked about the way that way it sounded.

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And I've heard, you know,
several different interviews on different shows that

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they talk about howling, roaring noise
like a like a lion, and uh,

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you know, they never mentioned any
kind of like the growl and the

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strong noise and all that, but
everything else sounds exciting, and they contribute

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you know, that one of their
dog men's sightings like that, and so

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they just, I don't know it, let me, you know, let

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me with a lot more questions.
When Miguel first brought that up, I

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think I said, I hate,
you know, I hate to think something

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like that out there. Absolutely,
I'm not a big fan of ever running

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into that myself either. Yeah,
you know, bigfoot, I don't know,

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we've heard about that for years.
You know, that's kind of a

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fame word, you know, kind
of kind of burn your mind a little

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bit from you know, all the
different shows about it over the years.

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You know, I'm trying to spt
you know, Okay, might be a

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big foot out there, you know, no big deal. I ain't heard

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of them actually hurting nobody, but
uh, I still don't want to see

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one. But then you hear something
like that and they referred to it as

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a dog man, and you start
going down that rabbit hole looking at things

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and listening to different stuff. When
it's like, especially what they look like,

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we're supposed to look like, and
it's like dog man, that's a

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werewolf to me, they're looking at
something like that. I mean, that's

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Hollywood stuff. They's supposed to be
nothing like it. Have you so this

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area of Hilltop Lakes where you had
this happen, did you ever look to

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see if there are any other similar
events online in that area related to dog

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man or Bigfoot. I looked there
for a little while. I really I've

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heard maybe some different big book sightings
maybe around that area. I think,

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you know, that's just a general
area. I don't I'll want to give

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out these people as rings. You
know that land we was on and I've

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heard bf O O going in different
places down there also, you know,

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I know there's I forget half way
away from this area it is, but

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there's a there's an old military base
down there that's been closed down for years.

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I forget what they do, but
I don't know. There's supposed to

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be underground facilities there. There's a
lot of old concrete buildings, levell different

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kind of silos, different stuff,
And it was a pretty big place.

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And I don't know. I've heard
some people talk about the military, you

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know, used to experimental things there. Of course, you hear that about

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any kind of military base or you
know, area operation where you know,

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there's always under ground tunnels and experiment
on things. So I forget half far

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away, that is where it's at. And there's been a lot of sightings

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contribute it's around that area, and
nobody's supposed to go there. Trashpass and

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it was mostly all growed up.
I can't remember the name of that place

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to save my life right now.
And did you say big foot sightings or

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dog man sightings in that area?
Heard about big foot sightings? You know,

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I already hadn't heard no dog man
sighting, you know, I you

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know, I reached out to some
of them that you know, you know,

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trying to ones that had like br
O, no Man, moneymaker,

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some of them been down there.
There's a lot of stuff from East Texas,

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and I kind of followed them a
little while, and you know,

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I trying of reached out to them, you know, wondering what I might

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have heard and what it could have
been, any any reports or possibilities,

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and you know, nobody ever got
back with me. Sure you mentioned that

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when you do stuff around your house
that you have a weapon on you just

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for peace of mind. Is that
because of what happened that night? Or

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are there things happening around your house
and property as well? Yeah, Like

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there's not really anything happening around the
property. I guess sometimes I get a

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weird feeling kind of like that night, be out doing something or maybe working

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on the pickup or or doing something
in the garage or something, and you

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know, I just I just get
a weird feeling, you know, and

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I just kind of shine the light
around or look around me, and you

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know, I just story carrying my
you know, my story carrying my firearm.

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And I really ain't never been a
big carrier or a handgun or anything

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like that. You know, I
have them in my safe h but that

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spraying, I guess you know that
that coming spraying, after that happened,

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it kind of pushed me over the
edge too. I want to hit and

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got my license to carry and went
through the course and got my certification and

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license here in Texas carry fire work, and that experience kind of pushed me

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in that direction. It's like,
you know, out at night, I

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don't need you know, we we
like riding the back roads and everything around

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here, maybe on the four wheeler
or in the truck or you know,

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just get out and look at the
wildlife and me and my fiance and it's

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like, now, I won't even
do that now without you know, even

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though I'm gonna pick up this ride
brown you know, yeah, I carry

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it. Well, I got it
on me, you know. You know,

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I think about different scenarios and it's
just a lot of things I used

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to do that you know, I
don't really take for granted now after hearing

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that, you know, you know
there's something out there. Well for me,

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I know there's something out there that
I have more fathom of what it

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is. If it's the money,
some kind of you know, people talk

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about these genetic mutations or experiments or
whatever the following the Watchers have done,

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the nephelins and all that stuff.
You know, we are kind of living

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in crazy times, and they talk
do talk about, you know, towards

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sometimes you know, the evil will
get worse or whatever. But I don't,

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I don't. I don't know,
Rich this is something that some kind

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of the way things are man manifested
or look, it's some kind of emotic

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I really, I don't. I
don't know. I just know I could

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hear it. I can feel that
go through my chest. You know,

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I didn't see nothing. But after
you had that experience that night, did

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it affect your dreams at all?
That's kind of a weird thing there,

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because I used to have dreams.
I mean, I've had dreams all my

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life. As a kid, i'd
have dreams, you know, as a

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young kid. I mean, I
don't know. I know, I had

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to be around three, four or
five years old somewhere in that area,

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but I still definitely member dreams and
didn't know what to know where it was

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or anything like that, you know, that younger kid. You know,

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Mom and Dad didn't watch any kind
of movies like that or any thing.

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And I used to have dreams growing
up all the time, like a wirewolf

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looking at my window madrim winded there
as a kid, or be outside playing

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and when you looked like and there
would be one, uh, you know,

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it would wake me up the middle
of the night. You know,

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I'd lay there in bass here to
death, you know. Yeah, tchoukers

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over my head, you know,
sitting there thinking is that you know,

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is there something out there like that
or something? You know, But yeah,

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I've had dreams prior and you know
to that and after you know about

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stuff like that. Did you grow
up in the same area or in Texas?

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Yeah? Actually, were I grew
up, it's probably well, the

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house I was raised in, it's
probably four miles from here. The house

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I live in now with blown on
my mother's side of the family got inherited

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down there through my mother and my
dad's side. The house we was raised

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as a kid, say maybe three
or four miles from us in there.

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During that time, growing up,
especially in the seventies, in that are

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out there, the nearest neighbor might
have been three or four miles away,

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three miles something like that pretty much, you know, kind of a middle

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of nowhere up there on a farm. My dad was a farmer, and

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I kind of grew up secluded from
anybody any place in any houses around you

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know, a way from town.
But yeah, you know, as a

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kid, I remember being scared of
the door whatever, worried about what's going

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to be out there because because of
the dreams I had growing up. But

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I don't know. My brother might
have played a part in net always try

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to scare me with something, right, Yeah, I got you. Yeah,

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you mentioned that you continued to have
those after what you heard at Hilltop?

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Were they similar or were they different
types of dreams after that? They

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they've always been pretty much the same. It like, I don't know,

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for as beginning something outside and look
up and there be something you know far

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as that, or or but be
out playing or working on you know,

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just I don't well, however,
dreams go is just always be outside.

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It'd be around either the house or
you know, wake up trying to make

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sense of it. You know what
am I dream about? Dan, were

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wolves or anything like that? You
know, Big for Society will be right

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back after these messages, Darren.
It's it's very interesting, it feels like

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and I hope this isn't the case, but it hopes that. I hope

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this isn't the case. But it
feels like there could be more to this

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story at a later time. But
I mean, it'd be nice if you

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didn't have to deal with anything else. But it's just it's a very very

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interesting story. Have you ever returned
to the same area. No, I

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have not. It wasn't long after
that. I still call it my brother

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in law, even even though I'm
not married a sister. No court,

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but were just that tired. I
still are. He took another job somewhere

410
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:28.599
else and so never did go back
down there to that area or anything like

411
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:35.480
that, are you? You know? I grew up doing a lot of

412
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:42.639
things, and I was in the
look the last twenty five thirty years.

413
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:50.480
You know, I pretty much drove
a truck local heir in Texas and in

414
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:57.199
the oil field when all that was
booming around Big Aaron Texas and them cracking

415
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:05.119
jobs and Holland w off these gas
wells and stuff where they were find you

416
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.400
send me off in some pretty weird
places, you know. I'd go to

417
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:14.119
places out in East Texas back long
before this happened. You know, you'd

418
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.960
be office some scary looking country,
and you know, we just give you

419
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:23.840
the creas a bad feeling. But
you know, I've never really seen nothing

420
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:30.599
driving on the back roads or anything
like that. I do remember times when

421
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.599
I was up in New Mexico in
the area it was northern New Mexico,

422
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:45.039
up above Clayton, the way towards
Colorado border, that a friend's dad had

423
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:50.679
a hunting outfit to hunters on guides
and stuff like, we gotta hunts and

424
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:54.840
stuff, and we'd go scout areas. I'd go up there help them,

425
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:01.079
you know, scout out different areas
well, you know, for miles and

426
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:06.280
the canyons and different stuff. And
there was one night, me and my

427
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:14.000
buddy, we was on the We
was leaving the main little I guess where

428
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:20.239
the clients stayed, little house there
pome Uh. We decided we was gonna

429
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.519
go up into on top of one
of the nicest too far from there to

430
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.599
check out, to check on the
old cabin and stuff. Stay the night

431
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:34.880
up there. Pretty a couple of
nights and we was on the We decided

432
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.800
we was on walk went on them
roads can be going up the Masons.

433
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:44.559
There's been fool wadgers, a slide
off the side or pick up. You

434
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.960
know, you can't see that good. You know, you don't need to

435
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.239
be driving up there and has steeped
from them. Laces are down in our

436
00:42:53.360 --> 00:43:00.119
deacons. But we decided we was
gonna walk up there one night. Yeah,

437
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:07.159
we need to turn turn loose problem
bears in that area around parks and

438
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:13.440
stuff. They would turn them loose
in this area, you know, because

439
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.719
it was there wasn't no one around
for biles, I mean except for Occasu

440
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:23.119
and maybe ranch house or something that
you know, somebody still had lived in

441
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.480
the Most of the land belong the
one person, and there wasn't like the

442
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:34.519
ranches can go to miles and so
they would turn some of the problem park

443
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:38.039
bears out, you know, bari
instead of putting them down to give them

444
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:44.960
a chance. We was walking up
that cabin one night. We got about

445
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:51.559
halfway up to New Mexico. They
called them flat top mountains of whatever races.

446
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.920
They could be pretty tall and steep. When we was walking up the

447
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:04.639
road going to the the cabin,
and we kept hearing something, you know,

448
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:10.360
walking with us, walking up the
road. On the right side of

449
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:17.079
us, it was a steep drop
off probably I don't know, maybe hundred

450
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.239
foot two hundred foot just steep drop
off to this lege. And then it

451
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:28.239
continued on down and into the loft
of the stairs, the trees and everything,

452
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:37.960
and it was stay in the trees
and it would never heard any kind

453
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:44.719
of noise, any kind of growling, nothing noise or anything like that.

454
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:50.280
But you could hear it walking with
us, and we stopped and it would

455
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:55.960
stopped. And you know, we
were both aware of it, and you

456
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.440
know, talk about it as going
up and we like, you hear that

457
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:04.039
so over there making this noise or
that noise, like yep, while here

458
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.920
we had our guns with us.
You know, we wasn't gonna walk around

459
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.719
where this problem barriers without any guns. I carried him that time, a

460
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.920
big old forty four magnum in the
shoulder holster. So I wasn't I wasn't

461
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.880
too worried about it. Whatever it
was, it followed us all the way

462
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.440
up to that cabin that night,
and we got in there. It just

463
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.079
it's closer. We got the cabin, it felt like more urgent we need

464
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:37.480
to get into the cabin. It
just it started to turning, you know,

465
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.800
no big deal of it. You
know, it was kind of scary.

466
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.960
It following this all the way up
there, and it was probably two

467
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.559
miles up you know, to get
to it from where we was, and

468
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:52.920
started hearing it. And we we
got in the cabin, locked everything,

469
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.599
got in there and locked everything back
up, got a fire, little light

470
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:02.719
going in there. But it's like
all that. You could hear something around

471
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:09.559
the cabin though, and we really, you know, we considered it,

472
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:15.840
you know, thinking, you know, a bear. But there was one

473
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.679
time you get the doornob whatever on
the outside of this one door, you

474
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:28.119
could hear it jiggling when we just
kind of, I don't know what kind

475
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.639
of just well, maybe it was
pushing its nose around on it or whatever.

476
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:37.079
And you know, if it's a
bear, you know, maybe it's

477
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:42.800
rattling and smelling were hands and being
or whatever. You know, never really

478
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.960
thought anything else other than that too, you know, until we heard what,

479
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:52.119
you know, the thing haling down
in these texts, that's already thinking

480
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:58.320
about things that might have happened and
different noises might have heard. That really

481
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:05.119
didn't think nothing about you know,
way back then, you never heard anything

482
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:13.039
about this other but there was always
either something happened or something went wrong.

483
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.840
It was a bear, you know, that was it. There wasn't nothing

484
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:23.280
else, so there wasn't no talk
about anything else. And you're talking about

485
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.400
it. You asked me why to
go? You know, experienced anything around

486
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:35.760
here at the house. And I
got trail cameras out I got a I

487
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:42.039
got a couple that sends me pictures
and I'm always checking them. And I

488
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.239
said, what's running around out here? And you know, I've been trying

489
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:50.639
to get bigger to come up here
for ever out of feeder. But the

490
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:58.199
camera took a picture the other day
that I had one out there nursing.

491
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:01.039
I finally got some chickens and chicken
coop out here, and I had a

492
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:07.360
one of the spy point cameras there
that sends you pictures whenever you know something

493
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:15.280
triggers it. And about thirty,
I guess it was dark enough where the

494
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.039
sun was down. It was dark
enough where the Emperor Red to show up.

495
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:29.039
But it looked from the from looking
at it, whatever this was,

496
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:38.360
it was something by the car poor
by the back door on all fours and

497
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:47.280
from the back it looked like from
the back it looks bare like. And

498
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:53.840
we ain't get no bearers here,
you know, never heard any bear sidings

499
00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:00.639
or never seen any bears sightings here, you know, in Hill County and

500
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:07.239
all that's supposed to be out ease. But in the picture was just some

501
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:14.320
big ferry on the ground. It
stands pretty tall. It looks like he's

502
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.480
got his head down. It looks
like from the back and you can make

503
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.440
it out. You go to zoom
in on or whatever it, you know,

504
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.800
it blurs out. You don't really
you know, you don't get great

505
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:35.320
detail of it. And I went
out there, you know, looking around,

506
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:38.960
looking where you know, the picture
and everything. I was just trying

507
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:44.079
to you know, I was trying
to see if there's anything out there in

508
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.719
the yard that would you know,
if the chairman might have took a picture,

509
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.840
you know, like a mouse or
an owl or something flew by the

510
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.199
camera or something, if it just
happened to take a picture and you didn't

511
00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:00.599
catch it or whatever. You know, it shows the yard in that area.

512
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.199
But this time there was something there, and I want, you know,

513
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.880
I went out there looking. There
was nothing laying in the yard or

514
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:17.960
next to the car port or anything
that would get any impression, you know,

515
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:24.400
like you tricked the eye like an
animal beat there, But I don't

516
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.519
know it you know I should be
looking the picture, looking at the we're

517
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.679
in or something. Maybe I might
have heard haling one night. I don't

518
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:43.880
know, that is very interesting.
Is that a photo you would mind sharing

519
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:55.320
it all? Or is it yeah? I'd share the photo. I see.

520
00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:04.679
I've got a don't know before that
was taken, because you know,

521
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:09.840
I kind of got before after like
perception. See it was it was around

522
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:15.679
three thirty. I was out there
by the chicken pan. I went out

523
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:17.679
there and check on them, make
sure they still heard playing the food and

524
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:23.519
water, and so we took a
picture. Basically in my legs, you

525
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:28.880
shoot the car board at a distance, you shoot the car of the lawnmower

526
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:37.800
motting Barbecie Grielle if you zoom me
again, and then it was exactly that

527
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:44.559
was at three o'clock. And another
picture, this other picture went off that

528
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.719
I had to sit there on thing. Brother. I don't know if it's

529
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.360
around ten fifteen in the military time. I had to think about there a

530
00:51:52.440 --> 00:52:00.480
minute or now eight fifteen, right
before it was getting dark and didn't sleep

531
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:04.199
and it was like looking around,
didn't see anything. I was like,

532
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.159
well, what's there? And I'm
looking in the background at the carp working

533
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.519
in ard years something on all fours
and there big for society. Who will

534
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:32.800
be right back after these messages?
You want me to send them pictures street

535
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:37.039
now, I came, yeah,
I mean that that would be interesting to

536
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:42.199
take a look at later for sure. Were you able to see any tracks

537
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:49.159
out where? It was so that
night that it ranged? Well? What

538
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:57.719
when this picture come in? It
didn't, it didn't come in. If

539
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.880
it did, I wouldn't pain chase
meant uh, the electricity been off that

540
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:06.079
day and me and the wife for
my fiancer at the time, I tol

541
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.599
her my why but we was in
the house at that time it started pooling

542
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:15.800
off. We've been outside almost all
day and the storms and knocked got electricity

543
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:21.480
here and it started kind of cooling
off. We went back inside and it

544
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.960
you know doors, the one that's
open, and we just pumpling up.

545
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:30.000
Well, she works nights and so
she was taking a little nap anyway,

546
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:35.840
and I dozed off, and later
I guess I didn't hear it come in

547
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.880
on my phone, but ram uh, eleven o'clock at night, I noticed

548
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:49.800
I had a picture on my phone. I hadn't seen open it up and

549
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.039
look at it, and I guess
at the time we supportedly taken her out,

550
00:53:53.880 --> 00:54:00.239
my dozed off. Really it came
right up to pretty much have back

551
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:04.360
door there where we where we had
been sitting most day, kind of on

552
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.920
the car port and shaded area,
because you know, it was pretty warm

553
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:15.719
that day, and by the time
it did there well anyway, by the

554
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.599
time I got the pictures if it
had already been raining for probably about thirty

555
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:28.440
or forty minutes and pretty heavy again. And so that's when I went out

556
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.880
there looking at everything out. I
looked for tracks there, look for tracks.

557
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.800
I went on the wet ground on
the car part where the rain been

558
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.639
blowing, but just too hard a
ground, too much of gravel, and

559
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:52.239
what I didn't see no tracks whatsoever. What the next day, even you

560
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.599
know, I went back out there
looking around hoping, maybe you know,

561
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.000
see some tracks at the edge of
the field. Right now, there's corner

562
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:06.000
planning all around us, and uh, my little area hears about two rakers

563
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:13.360
that's you know, this man and
the corn planting all around us, and

564
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.519
so you really can't see nothing right
now. But I look, I walk

565
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:22.119
around the edges of the field and
everything, looking around the edge of the

566
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:25.880
corner to see if any tracks or
anything like that can be seen in the

567
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:31.000
mud there. And I didn't see
nothing, but you know, maybe a

568
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:35.760
cow track or two. Every now
and then we'll get couts run through here.

569
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:55.920
They keep on going. Yeah,
that's the strangest photo. Would you

570
00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:00.159
think you smell? Or yeah?
You can. You can send it to

571
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:08.280
my email just at Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com. Why didn't you know

572
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:13.320
it? Our internet is down right
now, so I'm going to have to

573
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:17.079
look at it at a later time. We're having some weird weather affecting stuff

574
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:27.519
right now, but I understand that
them Again, Darren, it's been a

575
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:32.239
it's been a pleasure chatting with you
about the things you've experienced. You've really

576
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:38.960
have experienced some some interesting things.
I'd be interested to see the photo when

577
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:45.039
you're able to send it over,
And if you do ever experience anything else

578
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:51.840
weird, please feel free to reach
out about that as well. All right,

579
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.440
that's sure, Will and I trying
to try to reach out. You

580
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:01.199
know some other people you know and
just like I don't know's I've listened.

581
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:07.519
I've been listening to your show for
a while and it's yeah, you know

582
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.639
some of these other ones that wanted
to talk to me or something. I

583
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:16.079
just I just don't they seem like
they they stressed too much in the beginning,

584
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:27.519
how much they depend on everybody's money
to be seeing me Like, yeah,

585
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:34.639
it's it's not about that. Yeah, that's always the first thing they

586
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:38.280
did, and it's rest and I'm
like, well, I'm not getting back

587
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.960
with you. Yeah. I Mean
the reason I do it is that like

588
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:51.360
a lot of people I talked to, they just don't have anyone where they

589
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:57.039
can just share what they experienced and
not have to worry about being laughed at

590
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:01.800
or anything. And so that's that's
what I tried to to help with people

591
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.920
that I get connected to. And
I mean I've I've experienced like a kind

592
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:14.440
of traumatic situation myself, and now
I really get how important that is for

593
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:19.079
people to be able to talk,
just talk to someone and not you know,

594
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:24.079
just to unload. So I totally
get it. Yeah, a lot

595
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:28.880
of you know, I got friends
that laughed at me. You know,

596
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.119
it's like, what was you doing, what was you smoking? When you

597
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.400
drinking? What was this? You
know? Right, it's like yeah,

598
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:40.000
you know it. You know,
we like setting up having a good time,

599
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:45.800
but when I'm when I'm serious about
killing something. What it just it

600
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.400
just makes me my head like,
damn it, you ain't listening to me.

601
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:54.719
Yeah, it's you know something.
Yeah, if a person wants you

602
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.840
to listen and be serious, you
need to do that. I totally get

603
00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:04.679
it. Totally get it. But
yeah, Darren, thank you so much

604
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.920
for chatting tonight. I appreciate you
taking your time and being willing to share.

605
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:14.880
And hopefully people listen to this and
maybe they've heard of stuff in the

606
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:19.280
same area they can share, and
maybe they've been holding off on sharing something

607
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.400
that happened to them, and this
will give them the courage to share what

608
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:29.840
they experienced. So yeah, because
I mean, you know, I was

609
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:34.119
one of them that never, you
know, skip always skip ghosted up.

610
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:40.400
There's something out there, and people
need to know there's something out there and

611
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:46.199
and just not take a lot of
things for granted. You know a lot

612
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:52.440
of things might not be as it
seems, and I always keep it out

613
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:58.920
I guess absolutely, Yeah, be
prepared for sure. It sounds like you're

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definitely doing that. But pleasure talking
to you tonight, Darren. Ah right,

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great talking to you. Please take
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sure that you're subscribed share the show
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about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a bigfoot encounter related

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to the following, or know someone
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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com
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list. All right, I'm going
to use this space this week to announce

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that I'll be at the Sasquatch Summer
Fest and Oakridge organ as an atender.

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I won't be presenting or anything,
but I'll be hanging out trying to interview

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people that have had bigfoot encounters.
If you're from the Oakridge, Oregon area

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or surrounding and you've had a bigfoot
experience, please contact me directly Bigfoot Society

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at gmail dot com. Also,
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your tickets through Sasquatch Summerfest dot com
in use code Bigfoot Society, you can

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get fifty percent off the cost of
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so code Bigfoot Society to get fifty
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dot com and helps out the podcast
as well. A special thank you to

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all the Bigfoot Society Patreon and YouTube
channel members. It's your support that helps

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keep the show going and I extremely
appreciate it. Here at big for Society,

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we're headed to the moon and here's
a current update about going full time,

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So here we go. As of
five twenty two, you're now at

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two hundred and two patroons out of
eight hundred and twenty four needed. That's

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twenty four point five to one percent, almost a quarter of the way there,

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guys, brings us down to six
hundred and twenty two left to join

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the Patreon so a huge thank you
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Jeff, Steve, rickyde Norm,
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Joe Eber, Iike Jewels, Josh, Ryan Todd, Nathan, Gabe,

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Bill Lucky, Meghan, William,
Bobby, Joe and Inger for joining recently.

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If you want to join in the
fun, you can join over at

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patreon dot com forward slash the big
Foot Society. I'll see you there and

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again thanks for listening. Her and
I can get out of here. We

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can tell our stories. Maybe there's
somebody else out there listening it's too afraid

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to tell their story. Maybe this
will give them the courage to come out.

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And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks.

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I know what I saw, I
know what's out there. That's all I

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care. Please let people know,
Please let them know. If you ever

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see one of these things, you
need to tell because if you don't,

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and shame on you, you know, shame on you. Wait there's more.

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Monster Fest two is coming up soon
and Beautiful can't Ohio and I will

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be there doing a live podcast.
If you've ever wanted to meet Big FoST

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Society in person, this is the
year to do it. My special guest

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in the live podcast episode will be
Justin from Cryptids of the Corn. You

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will not want to miss this live
episode and then you can hang out with

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me at Monsterfest. You can go
to Smalltown Monsters dot com to get your

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tickets. Pre sale tickets are twenty
dollars fifty cents and tickets at the door

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will be twenty five dollars, but
kids twelve and under are free. How

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many places can you go to where
kids twelve and under are free? Not

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many. New this year are the
live workshops. I'm excited about this,

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extremely excited. How to cast a
footprint, how to collect DNA in the

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woods, ghost hunting tools one oh
one, how to do research. Also,

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there's going to be food trucks outside
this year and new guests, new

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speaker people you won't I mean,
the coolest thing about last year is that

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I got to meet people I was
not expecting to be there, people like

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less Odell, John Hickinbottom, really
cool, big people that I never would

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have thought that I would have met
before. And Seth Breedlove made it happen

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by making this incredible place for the
community to get together. Monsterfest in kant

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Ohio June twenty eighth through twenty ninth. Guys, do not miss this year.

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If you missed last year, don't
miss this year. Head on over

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right now to Smalltown Monsters dot com. I hope to see you there.