When the Night Howled Back: My Experience with the Unknown in East Texas

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0:50 But Darren, I'm glad that you're able to come on this show, and I'm going to go ahead and give it right over to you, my friend. Okay, I appreciate it, appreciate being on the show again. I don't know really where to start. I guess you know, the first experience are really you know, can confiding. I went down to visit my brother in law down in East Texas. He was a paramedic. I had the small fire department everything, and he has a moth time. So went down there, going to visit with him in a while. I hadn't seen him, and we was gonna do a little a little honting in that.

1:37 We always loved going cole hunting doing you know, calling up kayokes with a electronic recorder, you know, using a wounded rabbit noise or or a coyle locator. That's imma takes a pack of cows howling to get a response out of other ones. I probably got down there that evening, probably around I don't know, maybe seven o'clock. It was there in the one time I think it was. I think it was already January, and it was pretty cold. We had a little ice on the ground. Well, we sat around there at the house to baiting where we wanted to go call. He talked about he had a new place that's never been honey on. He's drove down there and looked at it during the day, walked around. He said it was pretty nice. He had a real nice open clearing. It was kind of down in a low spot. There was hills around, a lot of trees on one part, had a lot of swampy area. But he was talking about how kind of nice it was. The grass wasn't very tall.

2:57 There freeze about every thing else, so everything was laying down. We could see good. We got our stuff together. We usually call out the back of the pick up something like that that we're not familiar with. We'll go down and park kind of middle of the clearing. That way, he got a good three hundred and sixty degree do you around you it's kind of evenly spaced out to the tree line. When we were driving down there and we noticed, you know, we was talking, I mentioned the moon.

3:38 The moon was pretty bright that night. I mean, well, I actually real bright. That was kind of concerning to me. I mentioned it to him. I really don't like going calling when it's full moon. You really don't have no luck, you know much. And boys getting predator like cayos or podcasts come into you because they can spot you and see you real easy in new spotlights. That way, you know, gives us a little bit of bandage a lot with the red linbs. It kind of it kind of hides your our profile, blinding the animal a little bit. That way, he can't really see maybe what's going on. Anyway, we get down there, we park in the middle. We slowly got out of the truck.

4:34 He got in the back. I handed handed in his gunn and then you know, I handed him bend. I put the electronic collar up on top of the cab of the truck. I went around back, climbed on in the back of the pick up. We were just sitting there whispering, trying to each other by how bright that moon was and how far you could actually see. Once we got down there and our eyes got adjusted, I mean, you probably see a good fifty yards easily and make out everything, make out details, you know, far as anything around and bigger stuff you probably see out further, you know, pretty easily. Anyway, the side of started out, but we got our stuff situation on top of the cab there out the guns in a safe spot, tire lights up there. We shine light minute just to get a better idea of everything that's around, because I hadn't really seen the place during the daytime, and to make sure there's nothing out there. You know anyway, there wasn't no kind to any kind of form equipment or cows or anything like that. We always real safe while we're doing and we wasn't no houses around for miles and doesn't want to get things

6:08 about it hadn't never been hunted old supposedly, And anyway, I get this electronic collar set up. I decided I wasn't play it a Kyo pack calling. They knew this little running howl and you know this little vocals that sounds just like Kyle Pack in that distance. Anyway, I hit that play button there and it goes to the sequence. It probably runs maybe eight to twelve seconds long, or is the vocalization, and then it goes into a Paul's mode. It gives you time to hear any response from another pack of cows way off in the distance, howling back at you, or long trio or anything like that. So I played it. It was over. It was in that Polo's sequence, and I just kind of remember just looked, you know, kind of looking at brother in law whispering, and I was like, you know, I just kind of got a weird feeling, and I think like she's just like what, you know, like what kind of word feeling, you know, I just I don't know, I just got a weird feeling, and I said, I was probably nothing, so probably about

7:42 I don't know. Thirty and forty seconds go by and nothing. The recorder starts playing the noise again, the most realizations, and then it just as soon as it went into Paul's mode. On that second one, I'm I'm gonna say, probably about three hundred yards away on top of the hill, and the house started out, I mean it started out it sounded like a wolf, like a wolf house, you know, like a lone wolf.

8:22 I mean it was loud, it was deep, and it just kind of kept getting you know, like still like more strength behind it, and you know how like a lone wolf. Probably about four or five seconds then the house started turning into like a almost like a roaring noise, like if you ever heard of African line and how they roar on dB or whatever, wanting to that and without you know, skipping a beat. No there was no Pauley between these different vocalization noises. They went from that roaring said like snarling, growling, like humping noise, It's all into one. And we just kind of looked at each other like you know, what was that? And it's like it's like it sounded like what what the hell was all that other?

9:30 You know? And I said there thinking, I was like, man, I ain't never heard nothing like that. And it was like you feel that strong? That was He's like, yeah, it vibrated about Yes. I was like, if they have mine too? And that was pretty good ways off, you know, three hundred yards or so by our guestament. And we sat there listening, didn't hear anything else. We hadn't turned on any spotlights on at the time because we could, you know, let's say, see pretty good. And in the recorder, you know, he was still playing and went in coming out of that Paul session and went directly back into the the kind of old vocalizations. And and as soon as it got through playing that, Uh now from what d it moved in the move or there was two I don't know when this's and that's kind of you know, confused just a while, but it moved from her left over to our right about one hundred yards away and just inside the tree line. Uh. But how it started off just like that, just like before, like a deep lone wolf how into like a lion war in the growl and snorl and shuf

11:05 at the end of it. I mean, it's I mean, it's really hard to describe that noise. It just sounded unreable. And it's like and I'm you know, my brother in law he said a few choice words. You know, we wasn't really talking loud. He's whispering. But I look at him. I was like, I mean, my comment was, it sounds like we're offer a werewolf movie. I mean, that's what it sounds like. And he's like, yeah, he said, I was thinking that too, you know, werewolf movie. You know, you know, we were sitting there trying to make sense of that, and you know, it scared us. Oh. I brother in law started backing up a little bit, you know, he had to ready, and I went ahead and I grabbed the spotlight and I started shining it looking around a direction and all around us really, so I thought, well, you know, if it's doing this, it was over here, and you know this time, maybe two or three minutes later, it's over here in a total different spot. That's probably what I had to travel, probably five or six hundred yards it goes around us to be in that position. In the soul. You know.

12:37 I was looking all around, you know, behind us, side of us, everything, and didn't see nothing. Didn't see no eye shine. We kind of sat there a little bit, you know, debate, know what we're going to do. And well, let's say it was pride. I mean it, it's straight from nerves. Already kind of had a bad feeling, and I was like, we both agreed. We triggered. I jumped out and picked up he handed my gun, opened the cab up, and she handed me his gun. He jumped out and I stuck both the guns and a cab. We got in a truck and I franked it up.

13:24 Kind of set there a second, you know, still debating, you know, you know what is that? I mean, it just were scared, but we're still like, you know, trying to figure it out. Well, he's like, I don't know. We talked about it as we go. So we went ahead and we didn't see it on ice shiner and we didn't see nothing. We went ahead and we got up out of there. And he didn't really live that far from the area. It was. It was pretty close to in these teches, kind of right at the top lakes down in that area. I ain't gonna say the landowner's name. You know, we barely had permission, and we wasn't on telling anybody else, you know, about it, you know, just out of respect for the landowners.

14:20 And when we was go into his house, I said, I said, well we might are to keep driving a little ways. One went on the highway. You know, I just kept thinking, you know, as big as that sounded, in the strength behind it, you know, what is the same? Whatever it was followed us out of there, and you know, we had to go out some gravel roads and stuff before you know, ever got out of there good and got on the highway. You know, after we got on the highway, it wasn't that part of his house. So we just kept on driving for a little while, real trying to roll the back road, discussing, you know, trying to figure it out what that was, and it just you know, it no matter what you wanted to found. Uh, you know, I was like, maybe it's bigfoot. Maybe that was a bigfoot house. At the time, I didn't know anything about you know, about men or supposedly you know, these different programs and stuff and different things have been looking up. You know, we didn't know, I hadn't heard any of anything about all that. Just all we ever heard was, you know about bigfoot. You know, when the show Finding Bigfood first come on my anner and everything else. You know, we'd watched that, entertain it, you know, always kept open mind, you know, and yeah we were during this whole time. We was discussing

15:54 it to each other. We both you know, it was like, man, that was a bigfoot. I mean that was a weird freaking sound and everything else. But but kept on going back to my head. It's like, man, it didn't sound like you know, with any kind of vocalizations or anything else people's got recorded or portage here or anything like that. It sounded like awarewolf, I mean, chain on you. Yeah, sometime we get together, we talk about that, uh, discuss it, you know, still trying to make sense of it today. And yeah, that's pretty much that was. Know what went on that night, and that changed the way I see the dark. It changed the way I look at things more than I realized at the time. I used to be big on, you know, going hunting that night, caut hunting like that. I still today might have only went cout hunt that night one time since then, I don't let myself get off in the woods after dark. If I'm in the woods, I got a gun on me and carry flashlight also, just in case, you know, got caught up after Dameric or whatever. But deer hunting,

17:26 it took me a while to do that, and I still will. I will not get up and go to the stand deer stand before daylight anymore. I stopped bow hunting far as like that. Only given a land let's around here, its core engineers laying around here in our area, and he's supposed to carry no firearms in there. And this is you know, certain permit for a certain area hearing, shotgun season or something like that. So I will not go bow hunting on them any board because I can't carry lethally, I can't carry another good with me, a gun with me. You know, if you come up on a game boarding or anybody else, you know, I'd be in trouble having again. But during that time, yeah, it just pretty much change the way I even do things around the house at night after dark. I mean it's if I'm doing something outside, I keep my pistol on me h, you know, especially this, you know, a long time during the summer and everything. I'm over the yard at night because the heat it's real bad here in Texas, and you know, do it at night because it's luck Coodler. And even though I want to

18:56 love lawn more, I keep my pistol. I live out in the country and there ain't many houses around me, and there's some wooded acres down below me creek line, but most of its farm land, open land. But yeah, it is now. It really affected me on the way I do things and just the way I think. Whatever that was, I you know, I didn't want to I don't want to see it. Yeah, that's that's for sure, big for society. Who will be right back after these messages, Darren, I can tell that hearing that really affected you quite a bit, and I'm not even sure how I would take that myself. Do you mind if I ask you some questions about what you've shared so far?

20:11 Yeah, go ahead. So you mentioned really quick that both of you said that it vibrated your chest. Is that the main way that you were affected by hearing the vocal or did it affect you in any other ways physically or mentally during that time that you remember? Not really, I can't remember any other different failings or anything. I've heard people talk about your strange feelings or might get sick or feel something, but it wouldn't nothing like they have both of us, you know, just clear the high and everything. It was just loud and power, power throw you know, excuse me, they're powerful and that just as it went on in the deeper it got with the like roaring, growling, no I mean, you know you could, I mean you could feel it. Just it was almost like having a you know, speaker up next to you or something, or or you know, you hear these cars driving by you in town and stuff. They you know, they got their they got the base going in their cars, and you just you know, you might not hear the base that good, but you can feel it right, And that's win. I how you feel it along with the

21:42 noise. And to be that far away you don't still do that. I mean, whatever could do that has got to be huge. It was. You know, it wasn't no small puppy out there just howl it at the moment or anything like that. Whatever it was it was, it had to be huge to make that kind of noise. You know. That's the only time I've heard that type of noise or how I've helped with a guiding outfit in New Mexico up in that area Toulorada, take people a little you know, out in the mountains and stuff. And I'm there in the desert from Mexico around the lacers and travel camp overnight different areas. You know. I'm I've done a lot of things over you know, I guess my lifetime.

22:44 I'm about to be fifty three, hearing about about twenty third of this month, and you know, this is just something I had no explanation for. Absolutely. You mentioned that there was a kind of like a huff noise at the end of the vocalization that you heard. Can you describe that that particular part of the the howl or the roar in any other ways? Well, I mean I could try to imitate it. You know, I'm not saying a little stupid here, but I don't know that the how when it first started off, you know that lone wolf howl, you know it, and it kept going and it turned into like for more war, I mean, how and what like that? That's the best way I can describe it.

23:57 I get starting grow and just on the end of it, gotcha, okay, very interesting and yeah, you know, just doing that at a tires stand up on my arm goosebox. Mean, you know, it's a sound you ain't supposed to hear. It's it's really interesting because it's like you're not sure if it's a big for a dog man like I'm. I'm honestly not sure. I'm you know, like me and him discussed. You know, it sounded came out, you know what I mean. Yeah, you know, I'm I talked to him the first time I actually kind of reach out to somebody trying to figure out different things. Uh. I reached out, like I guess it's hard to say Miguel on Sasquat's theory. Uh, reached out to him and we was talking on the phone, even did a little you know, he had me on his show telling him about it. And but you know when we was talking, he was talking about he had the

25:27 same kind of experience the vocalation vocalization that say on that howling and he could you know, contributed to that with his dog man experience. And at that time, you know, this this was last year probably it's probably been a year year. In a couple of months, somewhere in there that yuh when I talked to him, yeah, you know, that's the first time I ever heard about dog man, and that that got me, you know, thinking everything else. It was like then that's when I really started actually looking up stuff for a dog man or maybe any kind of vocalizations thing they had recorded, or or the way they talked about the way that way it sounded.

26:29 And I've heard, you know, several different interviews on different shows that they talk about howling, roaring noise like a like a lion, and uh, you know, they never mentioned any kind of like the growl and the strong noise and all that, but everything else sounds exciting, and they contribute you know, that one of their dog men's sightings like that, and so they just, I don't know it, let me, you know, let me with a lot more questions. When Miguel first brought that up, I think I said, I hate, you know, I hate to think something like that out there. Absolutely, I'm not a big fan of ever running into that myself either. Yeah, you know, bigfoot, I don't know, we've heard about that for years. You know, that's kind of a fame word, you know, kind of kind of burn your mind a little bit from you know, all the different shows about it over the years.

27:41 You know, I'm trying to spt you know, Okay, might be a big foot out there, you know, no big deal. I ain't heard of them actually hurting nobody, but uh, I still don't want to see one. But then you hear something like that and they referred to it as a dog man, and you start going down that rabbit hole looking at things and listening to different stuff. When it's like, especially what they look like, we're supposed to look like, and it's like dog man, that's a werewolf to me, they're looking at something like that. I mean, that's Hollywood stuff. They's supposed to be nothing like it. Have you so this area of Hilltop Lakes where you had this happen, did you ever look to see if there are any other similar events online in that area related to dog man or Bigfoot. I looked there for a little while. I really I've heard maybe some different big book sightings maybe around that area. I think, you know, that's just a general area. I don't I'll want to give out these people as rings. You know that land we was on and I've heard bf O O going in different places down there also, you know, I know there's I forget half way away from this area it is, but

29:15 there's a there's an old military base down there that's been closed down for years. I forget what they do, but I don't know. There's supposed to be underground facilities there. There's a lot of old concrete buildings, levell different kind of silos, different stuff, And it was a pretty big place. And I don't know. I've heard some people talk about the military, you know, used to experimental things there. Of course, you hear that about any kind of military base or you know, area operation where you know, there's always under ground tunnels and experiment on things. So I forget half far away, that is where it's at. And there's been a lot of sightings contribute it's around that area, and nobody's supposed to go there. Trashpass and it was mostly all growed up. I can't remember the name of that place to save my life right now. And did you say big foot sightings or dog man sightings in that area? Heard about big foot sightings? You know, I already hadn't heard no dog man sighting, you know, I you know, I reached out to some of them that you know, you know,

30:49 trying to ones that had like br O, no Man, moneymaker, some of them been down there. There's a lot of stuff from East Texas, and I kind of followed them a little while, and you know, I trying of reached out to them, you know, wondering what I might have heard and what it could have been, any any reports or possibilities, and you know, nobody ever got back with me. Sure you mentioned that when you do stuff around your house that you have a weapon on you just for peace of mind. Is that because of what happened that night? Or are there things happening around your house and property as well? Yeah, Like there's not really anything happening around the property. I guess sometimes I get a weird feeling kind of like that night, be out doing something or maybe working on the pickup or or doing something in the garage or something, and you know, I just I just get a weird feeling, you know, and I just kind of shine the light around or look around me, and you know, I just story carrying my you know, my story carrying my firearm.

32:16 And I really ain't never been a big carrier or a handgun or anything like that. You know, I have them in my safe h but that spraying, I guess you know that that coming spraying, after that happened, it kind of pushed me over the edge too. I want to hit and got my license to carry and went through the course and got my certification and license here in Texas carry fire work, and that experience kind of pushed me in that direction. It's like, you know, out at night, I don't need you know, we we like riding the back roads and everything around here, maybe on the four wheeler or in the truck or you know, just get out and look at the wildlife and me and my fiance and it's like, now, I won't even do that now without you know, even though I'm gonna pick up this ride brown you know, yeah, I carry it. Well, I got it on me, you know. You know, I think about different scenarios and it's just a lot of things I used to do that you know, I don't really take for granted now after hearing that, you know, you know there's something out there. Well for me,

33:47 I know there's something out there that I have more fathom of what it is. If it's the money, some kind of you know, people talk about these genetic mutations or experiments or whatever the following the Watchers have done, the nephelins and all that stuff. You know, we are kind of living in crazy times, and they talk do talk about, you know, towards sometimes you know, the evil will get worse or whatever. But I don't, I don't. I don't know, Rich this is something that some kind of the way things are man manifested or look, it's some kind of emotic I really, I don't. I don't know. I just know I could hear it. I can feel that go through my chest. You know, I didn't see nothing. But after you had that experience that night, did it affect your dreams at all? That's kind of a weird thing there, because I used to have dreams. I mean, I've had dreams all my

35:22 life. As a kid, i'd have dreams, you know, as a young kid. I mean, I don't know. I know, I had to be around three, four or five years old somewhere in that area, but I still definitely member dreams and didn't know what to know where it was or anything like that, you know, that younger kid. You know, Mom and Dad didn't watch any kind of movies like that or any thing. And I used to have dreams growing up all the time, like a wirewolf looking at my window madrim winded there as a kid, or be outside playing and when you looked like and there would be one, uh, you know, it would wake me up the middle of the night. You know, I'd lay there in bass here to death, you know. Yeah, tchoukers over my head, you know, sitting there thinking is that you know, is there something out there like that or something? You know, But yeah, I've had dreams prior and you know to that and after you know about stuff like that. Did you grow up in the same area or in Texas?

36:58 Yeah? Actually, were I grew up, it's probably well, the house I was raised in, it's probably four miles from here. The house I live in now with blown on my mother's side of the family got inherited down there through my mother and my dad's side. The house we was raised as a kid, say maybe three or four miles from us in there. During that time, growing up, especially in the seventies, in that are out there, the nearest neighbor might have been three or four miles away, three miles something like that pretty much, you know, kind of a middle of nowhere up there on a farm. My dad was a farmer, and I kind of grew up secluded from anybody any place in any houses around you know, a way from town. But yeah, you know, as a kid, I remember being scared of the door whatever, worried about what's going to be out there because because of the dreams I had growing up. But I don't know. My brother might have played a part in net always try to scare me with something, right, Yeah, I got you. Yeah, you mentioned that you continued to have those after what you heard at Hilltop?

38:30 Were they similar or were they different types of dreams after that? They they've always been pretty much the same. It like, I don't know, for as beginning something outside and look up and there be something you know far as that, or or but be out playing or working on you know, just I don't well, however, dreams go is just always be outside. It'd be around either the house or you know, wake up trying to make sense of it. You know what am I dream about? Dan, were wolves or anything like that? You know, Big for Society will be right back after these messages, Darren. It's it's very interesting, it feels like and I hope this isn't the case, but it hopes that. I hope this isn't the case. But it feels like there could be more to this story at a later time. But I mean, it'd be nice if you didn't have to deal with anything else. But it's just it's a very very

40:00 interesting story. Have you ever returned to the same area. No, I have not. It wasn't long after that. I still call it my brother in law, even even though I'm not married a sister. No court, but were just that tired. I still are. He took another job somewhere else and so never did go back down there to that area or anything like that, are you? You know? I grew up doing a lot of things, and I was in the look the last twenty five thirty years.

40:43 You know, I pretty much drove a truck local heir in Texas and in the oil field when all that was booming around Big Aaron Texas and them cracking jobs and Holland w off these gas wells and stuff where they were find you send me off in some pretty weird places, you know. I'd go to places out in East Texas back long before this happened. You know, you'd be office some scary looking country, and you know, we just give you the creas a bad feeling. But you know, I've never really seen nothing driving on the back roads or anything like that. I do remember times when I was up in New Mexico in the area it was northern New Mexico, up above Clayton, the way towards Colorado border, that a friend's dad had a hunting outfit to hunters on guides and stuff like, we gotta hunts and stuff, and we'd go scout areas. I'd go up there help them, you know, scout out different areas well, you know, for miles and the canyons and different stuff. And there was one night, me and my buddy, we was on the We was leaving the main little I guess where

42:14 the clients stayed, little house there pome Uh. We decided we was gonna go up into on top of one of the nicest too far from there to check out, to check on the old cabin and stuff. Stay the night up there. Pretty a couple of nights and we was on the We decided we was on walk went on them roads can be going up the Masons. There's been fool wadgers, a slide off the side or pick up. You know, you can't see that good. You know, you don't need to be driving up there and has steeped from them. Laces are down in our deacons. But we decided we was gonna walk up there one night. Yeah, we need to turn turn loose problem bears in that area around parks and stuff. They would turn them loose in this area, you know, because it was there wasn't no one around for biles, I mean except for Occasu and maybe ranch house or something that you know, somebody still had lived in the Most of the land belong the one person, and there wasn't like the ranches can go to miles and so they would turn some of the problem park bears out, you know, bari instead of putting them down to give them a chance. We was walking up that cabin one night. We got about

43:45 halfway up to New Mexico. They called them flat top mountains of whatever races. They could be pretty tall and steep. When we was walking up the road going to the the cabin, and we kept hearing something, you know, walking with us, walking up the road. On the right side of us, it was a steep drop off probably I don't know, maybe hundred foot two hundred foot just steep drop off to this lege. And then it continued on down and into the loft of the stairs, the trees and everything, and it was stay in the trees and it would never heard any kind of noise, any kind of growling, nothing noise or anything like that.

44:46 But you could hear it walking with us, and we stopped and it would stopped. And you know, we were both aware of it, and you know, talk about it as going up and we like, you hear that so over there making this noise or that noise, like yep, while here we had our guns with us. You know, we wasn't gonna walk around where this problem barriers without any guns. I carried him that time, a big old forty four magnum in the shoulder holster. So I wasn't I wasn't too worried about it. Whatever it was, it followed us all the way up to that cabin that night, and we got in there. It just it's closer. We got the cabin, it felt like more urgent we need to get into the cabin. It just it started to turning, you know, no big deal of it. You know, it was kind of scary.

45:39 It following this all the way up there, and it was probably two miles up you know, to get to it from where we was, and started hearing it. And we we got in the cabin, locked everything, got in there and locked everything back up, got a fire, little light going in there. But it's like all that. You could hear something around the cabin though, and we really, you know, we considered it, you know, thinking, you know, a bear. But there was one time you get the doornob whatever on the outside of this one door, you could hear it jiggling when we just kind of, I don't know what kind of just well, maybe it was pushing its nose around on it or whatever.

46:31 And you know, if it's a bear, you know, maybe it's rattling and smelling were hands and being or whatever. You know, never really thought anything else other than that too, you know, until we heard what, you know, the thing haling down in these texts, that's already thinking about things that might have happened and different noises might have heard. That really didn't think nothing about you know, way back then, you never heard anything about this other but there was always either something happened or something went wrong.

47:13 It was a bear, you know, that was it. There wasn't nothing else, so there wasn't no talk about anything else. And you're talking about it. You asked me why to go? You know, experienced anything around here at the house. And I got trail cameras out I got a I got a couple that sends me pictures and I'm always checking them. And I said, what's running around out here? And you know, I've been trying to get bigger to come up here for ever out of feeder. But the camera took a picture the other day that I had one out there nursing.

47:58 I finally got some chickens and chicken coop out here, and I had a one of the spy point cameras there that sends you pictures whenever you know something triggers it. And about thirty, I guess it was dark enough where the sun was down. It was dark enough where the Emperor Red to show up. But it looked from the from looking at it, whatever this was, it was something by the car poor by the back door on all fours and from the back it looked like from the back it looks bare like. And we ain't get no bearers here, you know, never heard any bear sidings or never seen any bears sightings here, you know, in Hill County and all that's supposed to be out ease. But in the picture was just some big ferry on the ground. It stands pretty tall. It looks like he's got his head down. It looks like from the back and you can make it out. You go to zoom in on or whatever it, you know, it blurs out. You don't really you know, you don't get great detail of it. And I went out there, you know, looking around,

49:35 looking where you know, the picture and everything. I was just trying to you know, I was trying to see if there's anything out there in the yard that would you know, if the chairman might have took a picture, you know, like a mouse or an owl or something flew by the camera or something, if it just happened to take a picture and you didn't catch it or whatever. You know, it shows the yard in that area. But this time there was something there, and I want, you know, I went out there looking. There was nothing laying in the yard or next to the car port or anything that would get any impression, you know, like you tricked the eye like an animal beat there, But I don't know it you know I should be looking the picture, looking at the we're in or something. Maybe I might have heard haling one night. I don't know, that is very interesting. Is that a photo you would mind sharing it all? Or is it yeah? I'd share the photo. I see.

50:55 I've got a don't know before that was taken, because you know, I kind of got before after like perception. See it was it was around three thirty. I was out there by the chicken pan. I went out there and check on them, make sure they still heard playing the food and water, and so we took a picture. Basically in my legs, you shoot the car board at a distance, you shoot the car of the lawnmower motting Barbecie Grielle if you zoom me again, and then it was exactly that was at three o'clock. And another picture, this other picture went off that I had to sit there on thing. Brother. I don't know if it's around ten fifteen in the military time. I had to think about there a minute or now eight fifteen, right before it was getting dark and didn't sleep and it was like looking around, didn't see anything. I was like, well, what's there? And I'm looking in the background at the carp working in ard years something on all fours and there big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? You want me to send them pictures street

52:32 now, I came, yeah, I mean that that would be interesting to take a look at later for sure. Were you able to see any tracks out where? It was so that night that it ranged? Well? What when this picture come in? It didn't, it didn't come in. If it did, I wouldn't pain chase meant uh, the electricity been off that day and me and the wife for my fiancer at the time, I tol her my why but we was in the house at that time it started pooling off. We've been outside almost all day and the storms and knocked got electricity here and it started kind of cooling off. We went back inside and it you know doors, the one that's open, and we just pumpling up.

53:25 Well, she works nights and so she was taking a little nap anyway, and I dozed off, and later I guess I didn't hear it come in on my phone, but ram uh, eleven o'clock at night, I noticed I had a picture on my phone. I hadn't seen open it up and look at it, and I guess at the time we supportedly taken her out, my dozed off. Really it came right up to pretty much have back door there where we where we had been sitting most day, kind of on the car port and shaded area, because you know, it was pretty warm that day, and by the time it did there well anyway, by the time I got the pictures if it had already been raining for probably about thirty or forty minutes and pretty heavy again. And so that's when I went out there looking at everything out. I looked for tracks there, look for tracks.

54:32 I went on the wet ground on the car part where the rain been blowing, but just too hard a ground, too much of gravel, and what I didn't see no tracks whatsoever. What the next day, even you know, I went back out there looking around hoping, maybe you know, see some tracks at the edge of the field. Right now, there's corner planning all around us, and uh, my little area hears about two rakers that's you know, this man and the corn planting all around us, and so you really can't see nothing right now. But I look, I walk around the edges of the field and everything, looking around the edge of the corner to see if any tracks or anything like that can be seen in the mud there. And I didn't see nothing, but you know, maybe a cow track or two. Every now and then we'll get couts run through here.

55:37 They keep on going. Yeah, that's the strangest photo. Would you think you smell? Or yeah? You can. You can send it to my email just at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Why didn't you know it? Our internet is down right now, so I'm going to have to look at it at a later time. We're having some weird weather affecting stuff right now, but I understand that them Again, Darren, it's been a it's been a pleasure chatting with you about the things you've experienced. You've really have experienced some some interesting things. I'd be interested to see the photo when you're able to send it over, And if you do ever experience anything else weird, please feel free to reach out about that as well. All right, that's sure, Will and I trying to try to reach out. You know some other people you know and just like I don't know's I've listened.

57:01 I've been listening to your show for a while and it's yeah, you know some of these other ones that wanted to talk to me or something. I just I just don't they seem like they they stressed too much in the beginning, how much they depend on everybody's money to be seeing me Like, yeah, it's it's not about that. Yeah, that's always the first thing they did, and it's rest and I'm like, well, I'm not getting back with you. Yeah. I Mean the reason I do it is that like a lot of people I talked to, they just don't have anyone where they can just share what they experienced and not have to worry about being laughed at or anything. And so that's that's what I tried to to help with people that I get connected to. And I mean I've I've experienced like a kind of traumatic situation myself, and now I really get how important that is for people to be able to talk, just talk to someone and not you know, just to unload. So I totally get it. Yeah, a lot of you know, I got friends that laughed at me. You know, it's like, what was you doing, what was you smoking? When you

58:32 drinking? What was this? You know? Right, it's like yeah, you know it. You know, we like setting up having a good time, but when I'm when I'm serious about killing something. What it just it just makes me my head like, damn it, you ain't listening to me. Yeah, it's you know something. Yeah, if a person wants you to listen and be serious, you need to do that. I totally get it. Totally get it. But yeah, Darren, thank you so much for chatting tonight. I appreciate you taking your time and being willing to share. And hopefully people listen to this and maybe they've heard of stuff in the same area they can share, and maybe they've been holding off on sharing something that happened to them, and this will give them the courage to share what they experienced. So yeah, because I mean, you know, I was one of them that never, you know, skip always skip ghosted up.

59:35 There's something out there, and people need to know there's something out there and and just not take a lot of things for granted. You know a lot of things might not be as it seems, and I always keep it out I guess absolutely, Yeah, be prepared for sure. It sounds like you're definitely doing that. But pleasure talking to you tonight, Darren. Ah right, great talking to you. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that you're subscribed share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email. Here's the list. All right, I'm going to use this space this week to announce that I'll be at the Sasquatch Summer Fest and Oakridge organ as an atender.

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1:03:27 And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, and shame on you, you know, shame on you. Wait there's more.

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