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Originally released as Episode 382 on 2/16/24.

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we dive into the extraordinary Bigfoot encounters experienced by John from East Texas. Starting with his initial skepticism, John narrates how strange sounds, tree...

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Season 1

Originally released as Episode 382 on 2/16/24.

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we dive into the extraordinary Bigfoot encounters experienced by John from East Texas. Starting with his initial skepticism, John narrates how strange sounds, tree breaks, and unusual animal behavior on his sprawling ranch led him to believe in the presence of Bigfoot in the area. Highlights include encounters with wood knocks, whoops, gifting exchanges, and even a mysterious roar that left him and his girlfriend stunned. John also shares insights from a knowledgeable Bigfoot researcher who helped him understand these phenomena. Tune in for an immersive look into the enigmatic world of East Texas Bigfoot sightings.

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We got the privilege of talking to John tonight. He

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reached out to me from East Texas. How's it going tonight, John,

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It's going well.

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Good to be here.

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I'm excited to talk to you.

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It's been a little bit of time in coming, but

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I'm going to actually let you have the floor. Feel

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free to introduce yourself as you would see fit, and

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you can head right into what you've experienced.

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All right, sounds good. I'm just a regular guy, I'm

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not a professional bigfoot hunter, I guess you'd say. And

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what I really want to do is just shared my

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observations and some of my experiences that I've had over

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the years. That's been a part of my bigfoot journey.

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It started back in grade school. Back in my day,

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there was this deal where there was a book club

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and the teacher would get a brochure and she would

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hand it out and there was selection of books that

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you could purchase. And so anyway, I'm thinking, I'm about

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in seventh grade and I'm looking through the brochure and

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I see this book and it's like a double feature.

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It's on one side you got Bigfoot and on the

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other side you got the Likeness Monster. And I thought, well,

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that looks pretty interesting. I phoned it up my money

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and ordered it. In a couple of weeks, your books

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come in and then I'll never again. The teacher is

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out the box and she's walked through class. She's passing

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up the books. She's oh, okay, little Susie, I see

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that you got a book. Oh it's let's see the

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Julia Charles the Chef, Oh boy, that'll be good. And

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little Jimmy, oh, you got a book here on the

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Apollo astronauts. Oh, that'll be good. And then she gets

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to mine, I'll never forget it. She pulls it out

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and she looks out. She's oh, John, you got a

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book on Bigfoot? And she says, I hope you realize

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that this is nothing more than a man in a

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monkey suit. And I was thinking to myself, well, this

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is great. I spent all my money and I've got

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a book on a man in a monkey see. And

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so I thought, at least there's the log now this monster.

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So anyway, I got home and I just put it

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on my bookshelf, never even touched it, So I guess.

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It's about a month later and I'm over with my

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little buddy and we're riding our dirt bikes and it

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goes to a rainstorm comes up and his mother calls

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the sentences. You'll kids, get out, your lightning's going to

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strike you. So we come on in the house and

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so we're sitting there and we're watching the TV, and,

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like a lot of people that I've heard on different podcasts,

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all of a sudden there's this show that comes on

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and I'm hearing Leonard Meanway, I'm thinking, my gosh, that

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spock and it's of course it's the old in search

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of the series that was on, and the particular one

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that was on that day was on Bigfoot. And so

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I sat there, I'm glued to the TV, and I mean,

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as fast as the show is over, i am lickety

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split home. And I've grabbed that book and I read

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it cover to cover three or four times. I really

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wish I could remember the name of it, but I

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can't for the life of me. But so anyway, that

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sort of kicked off my whole Bigfoot experience, so at

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least to give me some knowledge as I grew older.

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I grew up on a ranch in New Mexico in

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the Rocky Mountain Santa de Cristo Mountains, and hunted and

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fished and just lived in the mountains. The ranch was

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at nine thousand feet, so we were way up in

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the mountain side. And never the whole time I was there,

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did you ever hear anything about Bigfoot, seeing Bigfoot, any

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signs or anything of them. If you heard of Bigfoot,

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it was always the Pacific Northwest. You just never heard

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of them in that area. And I just grew up

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like a lot of people. I'm like, I believe they exist,

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but they're in the Pacific Northwest. As time passes, life

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goes on, you'd focus on your job and whatnot and

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another and so anyway rocks on about i'd say about

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twenty years and my late wife and I we decided

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that we were going to do a lot of traveling

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up in the Pacific Northwest, all through Oregon, Washington Bridge, Columbia, Alberta,

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the Canadian Rockies, the Yukon Territories, Alaska. We went all

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the way to the Arctic Circle, and we spent a

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lot of time just in not the tourist trap places,

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but off off the road places. We did a lot

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of fishing. We would do a lot of we'd fly

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into different camps and so on and so forth. We

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did a lot of rafting down the rivers fishing, and

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we had a lot of Native American guides, and they're

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particularly the Chilicot tribe. Of course, there were some people

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from the I think it's the Tagish, and then there

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was the oh gosh, there's another one. I can't recall

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what they were Inuit Indians. And you would hang around

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them and one thing that I noticed about them was

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that they're if you when you bring on up Sasquatch,

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they're very protective about it. They don't really they don't

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really share a lot. They may say something, yeah, it's

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we believe this or that, but it's not until they

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get to know you a little bit better that they'll

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start to actually share what they actually believe. And like

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I said, we've been around a lot of official guides.

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We had met, we had gone to a training facility.

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There was a lady that was training dogs for that

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I did rod and she had a couple of people

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that worked with her Native American mushers, and they had

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some pretty interesting stories about experiences that they've had. Of course,

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another group of people that I love to talk to

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was the bush pilots because they're flying in all these

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road areas and so they have a lot of course

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that bird's eye view, but when you're up there and

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you're taking all that in, there's so many things that

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it's just you would be hard pressed to go to

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that area and not believe that sasquad exists. The museums,

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of course, there are oral histories, they're written histories. You've

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got carvings and paintings and totem poles that go back

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hundreds of years, and it's just fascinating that all of

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these tribes had their own opinion and take. There's actually

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a book out that I want to read by Kathy Strain,

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I think is her name. It's called Giants, Cannibals and

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monstros and it's I can't remember this lady's background, but

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it's basically about various Indian tribes and how that they

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distinguish Sasquatch, what is their opinion of Some of them

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consider it to be evil, some of it considered it

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to be good. And that's the same thing that I

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picked up in Canada was there's somewhat variations and how

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that they looked at a Sasquatches and for each particular tribe.

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But anyway, I returned, we're back in Texas, and I'm

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still skeptical. I one hundred percent believe Sasquatch is in

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the Pacific Northwest and Canada, possibly Montana in that area.

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But I am just I'm just so skeptical that there

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could be any bigfoot Sasquatch in the lower forty eight

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or the South. That's my I just I'm very skeptical.

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I actually manage a ranch and we've got several thousand acres.

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It's a mix. There's pasture land, there's cypers bottoms, we

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got plantation pines. And then the ranch is backed up

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to what's called Type two land, which in Texas it's

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basically wildlife preserves that you can hunt on it, but

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it's basically land that's untouched. And then backed up to

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that is a bunch of timber land that's owned by

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the Timber company. And there again there are some hunting

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leases on it, but not that many. And it's we're

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talking thousands upon thousands of acres that are continual and

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inside of this acreages, there's rivers, there's lakes, there's just

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on a ranch alone, there's four artesian wells that have

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the best water you've ever tasted. There's canals and just

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multiple waters horses. I guess what I'm trying to get at.

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So I'm out in this every day and I'm just

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a believe. I'm oblivious to what's going on around me.

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I would hear wood knocks and I'd be like a

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tree falling in the woods. I would hear whoops and say,

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I'm some kind of a kyoke stick with coyot and

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I just wasn't I wasn't put any credits in what

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I was hearing, and I was just there, again, they're

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not down here. And one day we were fixing some

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fence and I had a pen, or I had a

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pasture with some young bulls that would, let's just say,

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would be east to where we were fixing this fence.

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And so a lot of times you've got those young

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bulls together, they'll try to show out to each other

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and I have this very low bell er. They'll just

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bou and then they'll try and call another one out

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to have a push and shove match. And so this

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bull was walking around out there and he was doing

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the slow biller, and all of a sudden I noticed

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that directly to the west of us, I was hearing

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the same kind of sound, although it was different it's

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a little more raspy. And I got thinking. I was like,

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what in the world, Because the area that I was

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hearing the sound coming from was plantation pine and there

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should not be any cattle over there. So my first

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thought is one of them's got out of the pen

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and least got over there and got lost in the plantation.

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So we got through fixing the fence, and I go

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to the pen, go to the pasture to check out

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to the bulls. They're all there, and so then I

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go to check the fence and the fence is not broke.

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And I'm thinking to myself, what was to do? Because

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I know there's not any other cattle back there, and

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I was very perplexed by that. When so I come

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home and I'm just sitting around, and I thought, let

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me just look and see. And so I get to

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look on various websites and there's people that have said, yeah,

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that bigfoot sasquatch will kind of they'll mimic sounds such

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as that they'll do whistles, they may do howls. And

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I got to think that that's interesting that happened that day.

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And so it was just one little tidbit that was

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moving me in that direction. And so anyway, you know,

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a couple of days pass and I'm starting to just

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pay a little bit more attention to what's going on.

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So I ended up meeting this lady and she is

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a just a bigfoot a wealth of information she has

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just from her childhood. She has studied bigfoot backwards, forwards,

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up and down. And so we get to talking and

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when I'm telling her about it, and she implies, he

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needs to be a little more aware of what's what's

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going on, and you might actually open up and may

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open up a world to you. And so I do.

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I start paying a little bit when I'm hearing wood

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Knox and start paying a little bit closer to to him,

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and so on and so forth. And so we ended

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up going to a bigfoot convention in Jefferson, and I

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ended up talking to this lady. She's a biologist, but

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she's she had some other degree in plants that I

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don't remember exactly what it was. I'd never heard of

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it before. But so we get to discussing various things

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about bigfitt and she is the first person that I

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remember that that coined the term would ape and I thought, ruh,

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and so it stuck with me. And so we were

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talking about various things and she was she said, what

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is it exactly that you don't believe that they're down here?

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And I'm like, I don't know that there's enough. I'm

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skeptical about the food source. And she said, obviously, John,

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there's rodents, there's deer, there's hogs. And I was like, yeah,

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I understand that, but you would think that there would

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be need to be more. And she goes to explain

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to me in great detail about other very plants that

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a wood ape could actually eat and survive on. And

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when it started, I started thinking about it, and I was like, gosh,

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and when you think about it, a ton of muscadines,

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we've got dewberries, we've got what's called pope salad, which

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if not prepared correctly, is poisonous. But I traveled in Africa,

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and I remember the guide. I remember that some of

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the great apes in Africa would eat these particular leaves

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that they could eat, but if a human was to

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eat them, they would kill you. And so I got

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to think of there again, that could certainly transfer them here.

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But the one thing that she said a couple of

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things that really stuck, and one of them was is

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hackberry trees. And I had always that's one of the

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deals where your buddy says, oh, youm hackberry trees are poisonous,

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and so from that point on you think they're poisonous,

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but in reality, hackberries aren't like a superfood. And the

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ranches loaded with these hackberries, and I was thinking, wow,

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that that's something I hadn't thought it. And then something

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else she's pointed out was she said turtles. She said

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that we feel like the what apes. That's part of

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their diet. And that is something that I would see constantly,

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would be turtle shells where you would see the top

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land over here and the bottom land over here, and

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I would mention it to people and they'd say, oh,

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that's that's gators doing that. And then one day I

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saw a gator eat a turtle and there's no top

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and bottom, it's just the whole thing. And so I

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eliminated that theory all together, and you know, started paying

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closer attention because there was turtle shells all over the place.

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You know, we've got lots of white oak, and of

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course they get old and die and the things are

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full of grubs. And I would see places where that

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the bark was peeled off. And occasionally we have what's

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called honey bears. They're just little bittie black bears, and

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they're very scary.

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Big for society. Will be right back after these messages.

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If they see you, they're they're going to run like crazy.

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But I just thought that's probably what it is, some

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honey bears. But when I got to paying closer attention,

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I noticed that these these scab marks on these trees

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were higher, and I got thinking, yeah, that's just that's

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just not a bear. So anyway, I come back from

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this convention and got a little bit more knowledge, and

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so one day we're working on a project. We're clearing

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a lane to a back property line, and I was

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on a dozer and I was pushing a lane, and

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so got all I could do the one day, and

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then back to dose. Were off and went and did

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something else. A couple of days later, I come back

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and I walk upon the most textbook tree break that

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I've ever seen. It was absolutely it was an ironwood tree,

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roughly three and a half four inches in diameter. It's

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bent down back down to the bottom of itself. And no,

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absolutely not a weather related situation. This was clearly bent down.

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And that with the knowledge that I got at the

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convention and seeing that tree break, I started thinking there's

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something going on here, and so I really started to

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pay even closer attention. At that point, I had mentioned

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it to my girlfriend and she was telling me. She

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said you know what you need to do. She had

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listened to a pot podcast where a lady was talking

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about and and she brought that up to me. I thought,

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you got to be kidding me, that that's ridiculous. But

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then I remember we were we had gone to that

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expedition big Foot up in Blue Rigs, Georgia, and I

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remember they're reading in an article and they're at that

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museum were that this lady had started this gifting program.

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So anyway, at first I thought that's ridiculous, me gifting

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wood ape. And one day I was in my office

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in something and I happened to just see she had

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mentioned to me that they had short I came across

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the set of Marti grav beings, and so I thought,

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perfect deal. I put them in the trink. A couple

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of days later, I take them to this way back

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piece of the property and I get back there, and

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of course the instructions were that you take two sticks

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and pull them in the right angle, and then you

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put the item behind these sticks, exactly like I was

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told them. I'm thinking, this is nance, this is totally nice,

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and I get busy on It's probably a week, if

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a lot more before I get that down there. So

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I pull up there. I'm on a Plarifs and I

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pull up there, and as I'm driving up there, I'm

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noticing something that it seems out of place, and I'm thinking,

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what in the world. And as I get closer, what

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I find is just bizarre. I find a happy birthday

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balloon like that you would get at Walgreens or Walmart.

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And obviously somebody had a birthday in the balloon had

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got away, but I just can't believe that it would

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have landed where my gifting area was. So I find

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this happy birthday balloon. And then the second thing that

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was even more strange was I found a gallon jug,

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a gallon oil jug from Texico Haveling Supreme from back

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in the nineties, and I'm thinking, how did that get here? Now?

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The beads were still there, but apparently they had gifted

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me a balloon and an old joke. I left it

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off at first, but then I got to think, something

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did this And I know it's not people because we're

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talking way back and the places. We watch the property

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very closely, and so I that kind of got to me,

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I guess you'd say. And it was just one more thing.

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So I a couple of more weeks pass and I'm

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on another project. We had a thirty acre lake that

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blew out during Hurricane Harvey. We had thirty inches of

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rain and blew the levee out and so when the

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wake blew out, it actually caused there to be a lagoon.

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And at the back edge of it there's a little

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kind of an island that sticks out. So I was

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patching a road and I was stealing some clay from

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an area there to patch this road. And so I'm

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on a skidcher. I'm going back and forth patching this road.

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And I get to where I'm done, and as I'm leaving,

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I noticed that there's this there's a hitch pin that's

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on this piece of equipment that had fallen off. I

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thought it had happened before. The thing's like two hundred dollars,

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so I thought, man, I got to go find this thing.

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So I know that I've only been to the lagoon

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and back, so I just parking machine and I walk.

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So I walk down trail. I get to this lagoon

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area and I'm sure enough I find the pen land

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there in the dirt, pick up the pin. But as

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I'm turning around. I've got this feeling that something is

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watching me, and you know how it'll come over you sometimes,

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And so I turn around and I look, but I

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don't see anything. And so just on a land I

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grab my camera and I just snap. I do a

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one as I stap, and just go on about my business.

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I come home and later that night, I'm going to

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the pictures. Look and I don't see that. And I

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don't see that, and then all of a sudden, I

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see this picture that's just bizarre, and I can't really

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make it out. I blow it up. I put it

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on my home computer, blow it up a little bit more.

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And I did not see this when I took the picture,

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so I did not know what was there. One took

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the picture, but because I got to looking at it,

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the best way I can describe, and this is gonna

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sound ridiculous. It sounds like the head the lead singer

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of the Insane Clown Posse. It's this weird looking face

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and you can clearly see eyes and a nose, a

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pudgy nose, but the top of the skull from right

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above the eyebrow going over kind of the top of

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the skull. You can clearly see where there's no fur,

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it's just skin. And on the other side you can

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clearly see that it's that there's hair there. It's behind

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a branch. There's a branch in the way that you

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can make out its face and it's not hunting down

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And it was actually on that little island in that

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foliage looking at me. And it's one of these pictures.

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Some people will look at it and they'll instantly see

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if other people look at it, and they'll be like,

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I don't know what you're talking about. But I thought

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it was really interesting. So I thought, huh, it's one

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one more thing. And I again, time passes on. I'm

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paying more atten. I noticed one day I get there

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at the ranch and I'm hearing like sound, what sounds

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like a peacock and way back in the woods. And

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when I'm thinking, man, what how did that get there?

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And so I go back there. I don't see any

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sign of any peacock or anything such as that, but

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clearly heard what sounded like a peacock. As I'm going

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back there, I go through an area where there's a

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tremendous growth of hackberries, and they were all the berries

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had made and they were just thick, and so I

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actually go over there. I'm going to get some and

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eat them, and I happen to look down and I

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noticed there it was sand, and it was wet sand,

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so it's it was like hard packed. But you could

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see where that something had come up there and had

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reached up to grab some of the berries. And it

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made pretty It made an imprint. Nothing that was castable,

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but it was something that you could clearly you could

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make it out. Especially you can't in the picture. You

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can't really see it that well, but being there you

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can see it. But what I noticed was that the print,

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it's not like what I would have thought. It wasn't

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a sasquatch print. It wasn't something that was sixteen inches

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long and seven inches wide or like that. It was

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actually it was actually you could see that it had toes.

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But what shot me the most was it was very

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wide it was compared to its length. And that goes

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back to my conversation with this woman about the wood aches,

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and so that kind of put me over into the

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camp of I believe, And I don't know a lot

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of people disagree with me, but I believe in East Texas,

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I believe that we have wood apes. It'd be hard

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for me to believe that a nine foot sasquatch could

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maneuver through the thick underbrush that we typically have. Now.

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Don't get me wrong, there's areas that are open, but

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the majority of it is pretty it's pretty viiny, and

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it's thick. And not only that, a lot of the

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bottom areas are quite swampy. And I think something, in

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my opinion, I think that something more in the seven

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foot bracket and down with a much wider foot is

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better suited for that type of terricory to get around in.

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And so after seeing that print, I was I'm getting

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over there in this wood ache camp even more there again,

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here we go. Get another couple of weeks go by,

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and I'm going down a trail. I forget what I

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was doing. I was going back there to check something,

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and all of a sudden, I smell this. I get

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this woolf of this smell that smells exactly like the

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inside of a beaver den. I know a lot of

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people say smell like sewer and so on and so forth,

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but this was like musky inside of a beaver den.

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And so I man, I slam I'm on the player

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of slam out of brakes, and I just go to

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looking around and there again I don't I'm not seeing anything,

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but I should just start taking picture set such him.

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Get on back to my office and start looking. And

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here again, I see this shade. I see this head.

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There's a tree that's falling over and the roots are

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pulled up out of the ground so it's got dirt

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on them. And there's this creature that's up there against

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these roots. And lo and behold, he's got it. You

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can see the ball that's in the head again, and

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I'm like, here we go again. This could clearly be

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the same I'm looking at the same guy again. I think.

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Two days later, about less than a corner of a

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mile from where I saw, got this picture of this

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creature I got. I had some trail cameras set out,

449
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:28.559
and of course, don't get me started on trail cameras,

450
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.920
because that's the biggest mystery in the world, is why

451
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:34.160
we can't get a good shot of one on a

452
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.839
trailer cam. But I did have one that was set

453
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.880
I actually set it in a rotten tree to where

454
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:43.920
that it was not on the outside of the tree.

455
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.920
It was inside the tree and you could not see

456
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.799
this thing. Of course, it was only shooting forward, very

457
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:56.759
limited scope. But I got a picture of what appears

458
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.799
to be and I've looked at it one hundred times.

459
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.279
It looks like it's it looks like it's a hip

460
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:09.000
and possibly an elbow of something I recreated it. I

461
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:12.519
know it's absolutely not a deer. It's not a honey

462
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:16.599
bear because it's too high, and it's not a coyote

463
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.319
or anything like that. It had to be something that

464
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:24.920
at least was standing about four feet coll and like

465
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.359
I said, it's just like a hip and an elbow.

466
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.839
But it was something that's and that's the only picture

467
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.640
that I've ever got on any of the trail cams

468
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.640
of any value that I would say. It's as far

469
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.160
as that goes. But so it's like last year, middle

470
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.680
of the winter, it's freezing, and my girlfriend and I

471
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.000
decide that we're going to go back to the back

472
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.880
part of the property where where the lake, the old

473
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.640
lake that blew out is and so I think it's

474
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.920
twelve degrees. We're crazy, and so we go out there

475
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:03.240
and so we're easing around. Everything is just solid for

476
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.680
especially for Texas, twelve degrees for Texas' East Texas as Gold.

477
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.119
And so we're easing around and we get to this

478
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.519
area and we noticed it was one of those deals

479
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:19.279
where that it was sixty degrees one day and then

480
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:23.559
the next day it's twelve. And so the day prior

481
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:28.279
it had rained and so everything was sloppy, and we

482
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:33.079
noticed right there at the edge of this embankment is

483
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.039
a very clear I would not I would call it

484
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.200
a baby. I wouldn't even call it a juvenile. It

485
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:44.839
was a very small footprint that had it actually was

486
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.880
made when it was wet, but it had froze and

487
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.039
there again it was something you couldn't really cast it,

488
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.720
but it was a pretty interesting footprint, and so that

489
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.119
kind of got our We got our hopes upon that deal,

490
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.160
and we went on and did some more driving around

491
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.680
and we've got to a point where I wanted to

492
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.160
check and see if I could see any footprints. There

493
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.359
was an area that had washed out, and I just

494
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.759
wanted to go there, And so we kill the players

495
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:16.599
for just a second and we're sitting there just listening,

496
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:21.359
and all of a sudden, we hear on an old

497
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.759
logging tram, we hear what sounds like a gibbon monkey.

498
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.079
It has that exact sound like a gibbon and it

499
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:35.720
does it three distinct times. And of course we are rookies.

500
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.559
You talk about rookies, we are like griogies. Or said,

501
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.279
we don't have any recording. We're sitting there just listening

502
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.960
hear it three times. Finally we wake up start recording.

503
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.279
Of course at that point we don't hear it no more,

504
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.359
but very distinct, like a gibbon monkey, three times.

505
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.960
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

506
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:14.480
We stayed there a couple don't know, an hour or

507
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.119
two left, and then we head out. And when we

508
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.240
get to the truck there again my girlfriend was saying,

509
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.200
she said, did you notice that there was some like songbird?

510
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.960
And I thought, yeah, I did hear that. And the

511
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.559
more we got to thinking about it, we got to think, obviously,

512
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.039
on a day like to day, there's not gonna be

513
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.359
song of birds out seeing and one of those missed

514
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.480
opportunities again where it possibly could have been what apes

515
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.519
out there doing some whistling. Of course we value you know, man,

516
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.599
the next time we're gonna be we're gonna be way

517
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:53.319
better prepared. So more time goes on and this probably

518
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.000
goes down. Is one of the most impressive things that

519
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:03.359
I've seen as far as my big investigations and being going.

520
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.279
And I was came out and past care and I

521
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.960
was shading the gate. I was actually horseback and so

522
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.319
and shut the gate. I get the horse and doing

523
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.279
to shut the gate, and I happen to look down

524
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:23.359
on the ground and it's there again. It's sandy tack

525
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.839
sail and I went down there and this just shot me.

526
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.559
There was one of our one of our cat dogs print.

527
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.839
There was a perfect dog print in the sand. And

528
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:41.440
then something had taken its finger and had made a

529
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:46.640
circle around that dog print. And I just have to

530
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:52.640
believe that was a parent teaching a small one. Okay,

531
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.960
here this is a dog print. Look out for this.

532
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.799
Be aware of this. And I got a pretty good

533
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.400
picture of it. But that just really stuck with me.

534
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.240
I had never seen I've never heard of anybody that

535
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.000
has came across to anything like that or that was

536
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.799
the first time I had actually ever seen it. So

537
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:15.440
there again, I'm man, I'm more on track. I think

538
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.559
there's wood apes in East Texas. So fast forward. It's

539
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:27.720
this past Christmas and I had got a thermal camera.

540
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.119
So now we're moving up. I've got some equiment, and

541
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:35.200
so I'm thrilled to death. We got a thermal and

542
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.720
so we go out and we get there to ranch

543
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.559
and I've got to put out some hay to some

544
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.839
cows before we go and do some research or some hunting,

545
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.720
and we know more. We get out of the truck

546
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:54.400
and we hear three perfect whoops, just booming right in

547
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.400
a row, and I thought, wow, here we are. This

548
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.400
is setting up good. So I put out the hay

549
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.599
and we make around three the woods. We take the

550
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:11.640
players some, we walk some, and we hear two or

551
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:16.720
three more good whoops, and then we hear our own favorite,

552
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.720
the peacock sound. Again. We didn't stay there that long.

553
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.640
We had stuff to do, so we've called them right

554
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.440
pretty early. But we left out and came back the

555
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:32.079
next day. The next afternoon. Call the weather. It's raining.

556
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.759
It's not necessarily freezing cold, but it's chilly. It's certainly

557
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.559
the kind of weather that you'd rather just be in

558
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.759
the house. But now we've got the new therm LA,

559
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.839
we got to do something. My girlfriend goes down to

560
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.119
the lake. We have about an eight Acre three in

561
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.079
the lake that she had gone down to, and she's

562
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:55.079
walking on the lake levy and honestly believes that she's

563
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.839
hearing something, and she's actually thinking that she's being parallel

564
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:03.240
by one off into the creek. And we get down that.

565
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.559
When I actually get back down there, and we notice

566
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.320
that there's this really odd trail that comes out of

567
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:12.760
the creek and it goes to the lake, and it

568
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.960
goes down to the lake in an area that's very flat,

569
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:20.079
that where the bank is not steep, and there's this

570
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.960
trail beat out, and so I instantly think it's probably

571
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.199
beaver's I got to look around there. There's no beaver

572
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:35.000
sign whatsoever, and there's a very faint, juvenile footprint that

573
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:38.920
you can somewhat pick up, and so I thought, I

574
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:40.679
thought this is an area that I'll put up one

575
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.320
of my cameras in the future and see what happens.

576
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.440
We go back and we get the players. Of course

577
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.280
it's pitch black now. The clouds are just thick clouds.

578
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.800
There's the every once in a while the moon to

579
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.159
poke through just for a second, but it goes back

580
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.679
pitch black. So I got my thermal out. I'm just

581
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.199
thrilled to death. I'm hoogs deer, funny things in trees,

582
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.920
and we're having a big fun And of course here

583
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:11.559
again we're rookies, and we should have had go thros

584
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:16.400
going and recording devices that we're enamored with the thermal.

585
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.440
So we're there's an area that I'm wanting to go

586
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.559
that's back off and it's a cyper swamp, and so

587
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.239
I'm wanting to go back down to that area. And

588
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.360
so we were easing down this trail and it gets

589
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.239
to this point in this trail where that it's so

590
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:39.679
thick that the trees have actually grown into themselves, so

591
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.320
it's almost like you're going in a tunnel. And so

592
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.760
we get as we're pulling up to this tunnel or

593
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.920
or this tunnel, this trail, my girlfriend, now she doesn't

594
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.239
tell me this at that time, but as we're pulling

595
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.760
in there, she starts to get really anxious. She said,

596
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.079
just this anxious feeling just comes over. Of course, it's

597
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.239
pitch black. We do have the headlights on the playiffs,

598
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:08.280
but it's totally pitch black everywhere else. And and she

599
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.199
says she gets this feeling like she's just getting anxious

600
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:17.000
and just all of a sudden, out of nowhere, there's

601
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.440
just this rure that is so loud that it actually

602
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.960
is even you can even clearly hear it over the

603
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:32.119
plaerismotor and I'm just basically stunned by it. I'm just

604
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.079
sitting there in disbelief of what I'm hearing. And she

605
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.000
says that I'm looking at her, and she said, I'm

606
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:44.320
actually smiling. And at this point she is completely panted

607
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.760
and she's freaking out, and she literally is so scared

608
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.760
that she punches me. Because I'm not acting. I have

609
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.199
no reaction. I'm just sitting there with a smile on

610
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.239
my face like I'm crazy, and she literally punches me,

611
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.960
and I come out of it, and she said, no, no,

612
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.760
we got to get out of her. So we basically

613
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.000
put it in reverse and high tail out of there,

614
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.320
and I can tell she is scared, and at that

615
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.519
point I'm even starting to get scared then, because it

616
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:16.599
sounded like the roar of a Howler monkey. It just

617
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:19.920
you hear. The people say that you can feel it.

618
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.320
I can't honestly say that I felt it because there

619
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.119
was a windshield in front of me, but I certainly

620
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:32.480
heard it clearly over the player's motor. So we back up.

621
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.559
We figured that's enough for one night. Of course, here

622
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.760
again after the fact, I got the therm all out.

623
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.000
I'm trying to look I'm not getting anything. But at

624
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.119
that point there again we're rookies. We're out of dodge.

625
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.800
So we go back. The next day. We're going so

626
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.360
we're on a mission. We're going to make it down

627
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:56.079
there to the swamp, and so we're headed back there

628
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.679
and we're on the we're on the players, everything doing good,

629
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.960
and all of a sudden, the players starts acting up.

630
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.360
The thing's been running perfect, and all of a sudden

631
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.679
it just starts acting up, and it's it's it's like

632
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.360
there's an ignition problem. It hits and it quits. It hits,

633
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.119
and it quits, and it hits, and then all of

634
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.320
a sudden, it just quits and and there's no fire

635
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.119
in it. We set there and try to fire it

636
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.920
back up in just no way. Of course, it's starting

637
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.280
to get dark, and so we the last place we

638
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.039
want to be is out there on foot, and so

639
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.119
we we abandon the playerffs and high tail it back

640
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:39.400
to the ranch headquarters and end up going back the

641
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.199
next day to get it and get on. It fires

642
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.880
right up. Now. I've heard people say numerous podcasts, did

643
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.920
they have the ability to mess with electricity. I don't

644
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.000
know if that's true or not, but what I can

645
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.000
tell you is that this players that was running perfectly,

646
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.960
all of a sudden quits and when we go get

647
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.079
it the next day. I don't know if they're if

648
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.199
they've moved on, or what the deal is, but it

649
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.800
fires right up. We end up going back again. Finally

650
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.000
we make it down into the swamp and we do

651
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.719
get We get one good I think that back we

652
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.840
get two good whoops, but they're at a distance, and

653
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.480
that was about all we had time for. And I

654
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.800
guess at that point that's the last that I've been

655
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:33.000
out there other than my daily stuff. There was a

656
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.119
guy that was on your podcast. I think it's been

657
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.280
months ago, and he'd made a comment that he believes

658
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.599
that they move in and out of areas, and I

659
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.159
completely agree with that. We had a real We went

660
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.719
a long time and didn't have any issues with hogs,

661
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.480
and then all of a sudden, we started having major

662
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:55.320
issues with hogs. And I noticed that the activity level

663
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.320
definitely increased when the hogs were there. Now the hogs

664
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.360
have died out, and I've noticed that we're not I'm

665
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.119
not hearing any not hearing the whoops, I'm not hearing

666
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.159
the peacock. I'm not hearing such as that. And so

667
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.480
I think that they've possibly moved on to another area.

668
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:14.000
But I think that they you know, I think that

669
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:19.159
they move back around. I'm just keeping after it and

670
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.559
hopefully one day I'm trying. My goal is to get

671
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:26.480
I'd love to get a good cast, something that I

672
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.960
can compare the something that I can show. Look, it's

673
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.400
wider than It's not one of these that's really long.

674
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:37.039
It's got some width to it. And anyway, that's about it.

675
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.239
I just wanted to share that and maybe some other

676
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.400
folks are in the same boat as I am, and

677
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.679
they'll get to the point that they'll start to believe

678
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.360
that they're down in the South as well.

679
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.440
John, You've got some incredible things going on that ranch.

680
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.960
Thank you for sharing that. I have some thoughts, if

681
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.760
that's all right, Yeah, absolutely, Well I would recommend to

682
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:01.840
do if it was me in that situation is I

683
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.920
would take some advice from Chris Spencer from the Olympic Project,

684
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.920
and you can watch about this on a Small Town

685
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.800
Monsters YouTube channel. Eli Watson has a documentary series he's

686
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.880
been doing. But what Chris Spencer does is he will

687
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.960
be wearing like a headlamp band and he'll actually have

688
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.400
a audio recorder in that headband, So when he leaves

689
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:34.960
the vehicle, it's already recording, right because he says, what

690
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.039
you've also experienced is that usually when you get out

691
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.719
of the cars right away, you're going to experience some

692
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.719
type of whoop, which you've been experiencing already. But that

693
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.719
might be a way that you'd be able to actually

694
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:51.320
capture this audio.

695
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.800
If you're wanting to try to do that.

696
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:54.599
Oh. Absolutely.

697
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.519
You can get a solid recorder for not that much.

698
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.199
You can get a task cam for just anywhere from

699
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:05.719
like eighty something to one hundred. They're pretty inexpensive. Now

700
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.559
I'll put a link in the show notes for what

701
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:09.599
I use personally.

702
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:17.440
But wow, and that is for that's for audio record Yeah, yeah, okay.

703
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.119
That would be for audio because it man, it would

704
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.199
be really cool if you could at least get some

705
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.679
of the whoops recorded.

706
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.559
That would be cool, end me.

707
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:30.360
Of course, that role is now that I did not

708
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.760
see that coming a million miles away. I'm and the

709
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:39.800
with the peacock because it sounds like a male peacock,

710
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.639
and I know, good, we don't have any peacocks out there.

711
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.639
And I just get people and I have to laugh

712
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:47.519
when I hear it. I'm thinking to myself, that's it's

713
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.159
just ridiculous. What are they doing? And another the other

714
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.159
thing is that when it sounds like that gibbon monkey,

715
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.480
that's unusual to me. And I've had people to say, oh,

716
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:02.440
owls do that in the middle of the day. I've

717
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.159
never experienced. I experienced I was doing some stuff night,

718
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:11.320
but not two in the afternoon, at least in my opinion.

719
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.320
But yes, you couldn't be more right back. Just we've

720
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.440
made so many rooky mistakes. It is not even front.

721
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:20.280
But it's like anything else that you do. You get

722
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.840
out there, you experience it and you learn and you

723
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:24.320
just do better the next time.

724
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.119
Absolutely. Let's see, I'm looking through my notes here. We're

725
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.920
leaving the location at East Texas, right, we just have

726
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.320
to be nebulous about East Texas.

727
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:35.960
Yeah, we could, I would say Southeast.

728
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:36.880
Gotcha.

729
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:41.159
Are you able to share any more about the female

730
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.280
researcher that you had been talking to.

731
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.679
Or I cannot remember her lastingly, I can't remember her

732
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.679
name was. She was sitting at our table, and I know,

733
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.400
if I'm not mistaken, she had done work with the

734
00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:02.440
wood a conservative she had worked with them, and this

735
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.800
was an super smart lady. She really in a lot

736
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.000
of ways. She was a lot of the catalysts that

737
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.599
that really got me to focus. Well, she mentioned what

738
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.599
she did about the turtles. That that really because that

739
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.719
is something that I had been seeing for years, the

740
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.599
turtle splitting part when I'm thinking it's kind of weird

741
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.320
and never really put the pieces together. And then she's

742
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.880
like the turtles or meat of a turtle highly nutritious

743
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:38.159
and easily caught and make a nice little meal. And

744
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.360
when she made mention to that, I was like, Wow,

745
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:47.079
definitely was something that made sense to me.

746
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.000
Yeah, it's very smart. If any listeners have an idea

747
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.679
of who that might be, you can put it in

748
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.119
the comments, or if you need to reach out to

749
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.320
me an email, you can do it that way too,

750
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:01.920
Big facataemail dot com sounds like that might be someone

751
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:05.039
fun to chat with for sure. Would you be able

752
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:06.639
to share the photos.

753
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:06.679
That you took?

754
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:11.480
Yes, yeah, awesome, that would be really cool to see those.

755
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.039
It's funny that you mentioned the lead singer of Insane

756
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.119
Clown Posse, because I've actually if you're talking about the

757
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:21.079
same guy. I actually interviewed him on the podcast because

758
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.639
he had a big foot encounter just outside of Detroit,

759
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:26.079
so we talked a while back.

760
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:30.400
So I had actually read that somewhere and I was thinking,

761
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.119
you gotta be kidding me. The actual yeah, the actual guy,

762
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:34.760
the actual singer.

763
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.360
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

764
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.920
Like I said, this photo, well, some people can look

765
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.039
at it, and like I said, they will instantly say,

766
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.239
oh yeah, and then other people will just stare at

767
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.079
it and go, I don't know what you're talking about.

768
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.840
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

769
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.719
And I don't know. There again, I find it hard

770
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:17.039
to believe that it's shadows or something of that. You can

771
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:22.960
clearly see two eyes, the glove of the sun coming

772
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:26.400
off its nose and the glare of the sun shining

773
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:30.280
off the ball spot on its head. It's there to see.

774
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.760
And now in the second photo where that it's over

775
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:39.559
by the stump, that was a little more more difficult.

776
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.159
But for me seeing exactly where it was at it

777
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.320
was clear to me to worry that I could understand

778
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.960
what was going on, and having seen the ball spot,

779
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.760
I could definitely notice it again, even though this was

780
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.239
at a far greater distance. It wasn't as close as

781
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.599
the other one was. But there again that that smell.

782
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.000
I would have never I would have never stopped and

783
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:08.159
just taken random pictures had I not got that odor.

784
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.719
I mean that that odor just inside of a beaver

785
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:12.519
den just stopped me dead in my tracks. I mean

786
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:16.239
I was like, that's weird because I was not near water,

787
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.639
and that one definitely just stopped me. And the one

788
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.400
of the the like I said, looks like it's hip.

789
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.519
I mean, you can clearly see it's something. Well, I

790
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:32.960
don't know, but that's the only I have had every

791
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.119
kind of trail camera you can imagine out in every

792
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.480
kind of place you can imagine, and that is the

793
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:45.440
only what I would call good picture that I've got get.

794
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:50.480
I've gotten some images at a distance that you can

795
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.239
at names something out there, but it's not something you

796
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.559
can say yes or no to, And that, to me,

797
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:02.000
that is the biggest mystery, and the whole big thing

798
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.159
me is why that there's just not more caught on

799
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.400
trail camps. But obviously they have got that ability to

800
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.519
elude them. And I think only because I had gone

801
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.920
to the great extent to get this thing up in

802
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.599
this dead tree and camouflage it in all kinds of

803
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:25.920
different ways. I think that's the only reason that I

804
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.800
got what I got. I think if they're I think

805
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:33.679
if they're even halfway camouflaged, I think they're detected somehow.

806
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:38.159
And I didn't have one. I did have one experience

807
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.400
one time. Of course, I don't know, I may be

808
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.039
reading something into it. I was back and I was

809
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.039
fixing some fence on the back corner of this property,

810
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.599
and so you know, I'm gathering up my tools and

811
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.960
I'm walking back to the mule, and all of a sudden,

812
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.880
I just got this horrible Of course, I'm sixty years old.

813
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.679
Dizzy spells part of the game. I was actually feeling

814
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.159
really good, and boom, I just got this really strange

815
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.840
did the sensation come over me? And I made it

816
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:13.519
to the mule and I sat it down. Of course,

817
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:17.039
some drank some water and it wasn't I wasn't overheated

818
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.559
or anything like that. And there again I got thinking,

819
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.239
I thought, what was that all about? And then of

820
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.360
course you hear people that did say that they have

821
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.880
that ability to do that, and so there again, I

822
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.440
don't know, but it makes me wonder absolutely.

823
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.039
Have you I guess you're in an interesting situation because

824
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.679
the ranch is so big, But have you talked to

825
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:43.480
any neighbors that are on the outskirts of the ranch

826
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:48.440
to see if they've experienced anything out of the ordinary there.

827
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.400
We really don't have any neighbors that are in the

828
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.840
core of the rant of the main body. They're on

829
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.159
the they're on the outskirts. But in those areas there,

830
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:05.199
it's relatively populated. But what I have experienced is the

831
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:09.159
adjacent land behind the ranch that is the type to preserve.

832
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.760
I've talked to several people, well, I say several, I've

833
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.320
talked probably four or five people that have I was

834
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.559
talking to this one guy. He's passed away, I'm thinking now,

835
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.960
but years ago. I think it was back in the nineties.

836
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:28.360
He was going him and a buddy were going duck hunting,

837
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.800
and there's a lot of slews in this area, and

838
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.039
so him and his buddy they were going duck hunting,

839
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.000
and they drove their truck to this area where you

840
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.159
had to park, and there was a gate and I

841
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.840
think if you had a permit, you had a key

842
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:48.320
or something. So they drive. They get up to this

843
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.199
gate and they're going through the gate and the guy says,

844
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.360
it's in the most dark, and he's got his flashlight

845
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.199
in his mouth, and he's going through the gate, and

846
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.679
all of a sudden, he looks down and he sees

847
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.599
a footprint and he'say, now, what is that? And so

848
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.239
he calls his buddy over there, and they look. Of course,

849
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.559
this is before cell phone cameras all that, but they're thinking, wow,

850
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:13.639
that's crazy, and so they dismiss it. And they walk

851
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.880
another couple of hundred feet and then all of a sudden,

852
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:23.000
the footprints come back into this trail, and so they

853
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:27.360
follow them, and you can clearly follow them. So they

854
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.639
follow them to the edge of this slew and he

855
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.000
said they get there, he said, it's still dark, but

856
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.800
he said, you can hear this, and he said, he

857
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:40.559
takes his light and he shines it. It's cypress trees basically,

858
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:45.679
and and he shines it and he says that about

859
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.760
seventy yards away or not that, about thirty yards away.

860
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.599
He said that they see this figure and they say

861
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:55.840
it just basically they see it for a couple of

862
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.400
seconds and then it just disappears behind some broo hush,

863
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.840
and they were he was a believer all his life.

864
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:08.639
And I talked to another man that he actually had

865
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.039
some property now he sent had sold it to the

866
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.760
timber company, and they actually planted in it. They put

867
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.039
in a eucalyptus plantation. But this guy had a place

868
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.559
back there and he was an older guy, and he

869
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.119
said that he would hear him all the time. It

870
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.639
wasn't nothing for him to hear him turn thy times

871
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.599
a week, woots, hollers, yells the whole nine yards imitations

872
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.639
of his cat. And I have talked. And then there

873
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.679
was another guy that was a dentist that I had

874
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:44.360
talked to once before, that he was in one of

875
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:49.599
the rivers fishing, and that he said that same kind

876
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:51.199
of deal. He said they were sitting there fishing and

877
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.159
he said, all of a sudden, they heard this splash

878
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.079
and he said they happened to look up into this

879
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.800
kind of a slew area and he said they see

880
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:03.119
this creature just for a second, just basically going across

881
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.920
the slit. And this guy, he for years in his retirement.

882
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.480
They tell me that he would come down and just

883
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:13.079
set out cameras and book and whatnot. But yeah, a

884
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.039
few people I have talked to some other people that

885
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:19.639
have had some pretty interesting sightings on the Sabine Renver,

886
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.800
which is not terribly far from where we're at, and

887
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:27.599
some relatively some pretty interesting stories coming out of that

888
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:31.679
part of the world, which in my opinion, that's more

889
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.320
of the hot spot in East Texas. I had talked

890
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:40.119
to a guy, very interesting story. They were working. They

891
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.800
were from a contracting company out of Tyler, and they

892
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:49.119
were down working on a bridge over by the Sabine

893
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:54.800
River on just the county road. It wasn't no major thoroughfare,

894
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:57.760
and they're doing some work on his bridge, and so

895
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.800
they the county. There was some kind of an area

896
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:06.239
that the county used for gravel or something, and they

897
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:11.119
allowed them to put up their campers in this area

898
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.039
so they wouldn't have to drive back and forth to

899
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.599
get a motel. And so the guys like, we've got

900
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.480
our fifth wheel part there. And he said that they

901
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.320
had they every night they would cook out on the

902
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.880
pit and he said, he said, it's smelt great. He said,

903
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.400
we had pork button, barbecue and everything else. And he

904
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.760
said that one night, he said they were laying there

905
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.159
in bed, and he said that he was in the

906
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.360
bedroom of his fifth wheel, which is obviously in the

907
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.599
front part, which is high, and he said that they

908
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.320
he said, it was perfectly still. He said that the

909
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.960
air conditioner wasn't running, and he had his windows open,

910
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:54.079
and or he had one of his windows open, and

911
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:59.519
he said that you could literally hear something flump. And

912
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:03.239
he sat up and he looked around, and they thought,

913
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:07.760
I'm just hearing things. And then he said, just out

914
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.519
of the blue, he said that the moonlight was shining

915
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:14.119
into the fifth wheel, and so he said, all of

916
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:18.000
a sudden, something distorted the light. And he said he

917
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:21.800
glanced over to the window, which was closed, and he

918
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:26.719
said he saw a hand up against that window, and

919
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.320
he said he just he went screaming, and he said

920
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:33.519
the hand went away, and he said, everybody woke up,

921
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.079
and you know there, what the hell's going on? They

922
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.480
turn on the lights and look around, and of course

923
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:42.079
he's in. I saw somebody's out there. I've seen their

924
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:46.079
hand up there. And they were like, nobody's here, nobody's here,

925
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:49.440
And so they all went back to bed, and the

926
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:53.199
next morning they woke up and they had left I

927
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:56.079
forget they'd left something out there on the pit and

928
00:55:56.440 --> 00:56:00.360
that whatever it was that they left out there was gone.

929
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:03.199
But he said that you could still clearly see the

930
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:07.159
smudge of the handprint on the window. Yeah. I thought, man,

931
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.079
that's pretty close encounter, but that, like I said, that

932
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.639
was over closer to the Sabine River area.

933
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.800
Yeah, the Sabine River definitely has some wild stuff and

934
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.880
if listeners want to hear more about that, read more

935
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:24.480
about that. Lyle Blackburn has a great book on Texas

936
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.320
Bigfoot that he came out with this last year. Definitely

937
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:32.519
recommend looking into that. At the beginning of our interview,

938
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:38.559
we had you had mentioned in passing about talking to

939
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:45.800
Iditarod mushers and bush pilots about bigfoot way back when

940
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:49.440
you had been traveling. Is there anything that you remember

941
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.360
from those conversations or.

942
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.280
Yeah, there actually a couple of things there. We were

943
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.159
talking to this one musher that was saying that so

944
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:03.360
they when they're training these dogs, they'll start off like

945
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:06.920
on fifty mile courses, and then they build them up

946
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.360
and build them up and build them up, and so

947
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:16.119
they've actually got numerous teams, and so it's not like

948
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.920
they have one team. They have several and then they'll

949
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.079
end up picking out the best groups to actually run

950
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.360
the idea rod. There's several mushers that go out and

951
00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.320
these guys will go out for two or three days

952
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:33.800
and work these dogs. And this one guy, his name

953
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.639
was Billy, I remember that. And he was telling me

954
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.320
that he was This would have been up by White

955
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:43.519
Horse up in the Yukon, and he was telling me

956
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:47.320
that they were camping by a river. It wasn't I'm

957
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:48.920
trying to remember. It wasn't in the time of the

958
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.199
year when it was bitter cold, the sunlight was out.

959
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:56.000
It must have been in the spring, and so there

960
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:00.440
was still snow, but it's not just horrible dark cold.

961
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.599
And he said it's starting to thaw. And so they

962
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.760
had run this course and he was saying that they

963
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:11.519
had set up camp by this river, and he said

964
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.599
that they had typical deal. Take care of the dogs first,

965
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.920
got the dogs fed, got the dogs staked out, and

966
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.199
he's in there in his tent, and he had been

967
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.159
Native American. I think they have an ability to sometimes

968
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.440
sense things. And he's got he said, he's got an

969
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:31.559
uneasy feeling, and he goes out back out of the tent.

970
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:34.599
But he said, all the dogs are not acting up.

971
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:38.639
He said that they're all basically bed down. And he

972
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.239
said that he just said this strange feeling that something

973
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:46.199
was out there. And so he goes back. He finishes

974
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:49.679
getting a little bite to eat. He lays down and

975
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.880
he says, there again. He said, something is like telling

976
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:56.119
him there's something out there. So he puts on his

977
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:59.679
head lamp. He goes back out. The dogs are still

978
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:05.079
Typically the dogs would would smell something, scent something, but

979
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:09.679
he said nothing. And he goes back out there and

980
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:12.840
he's he said that he's he's looking around. There's nothing.

981
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.199
He's and he's sitting there thinking himself, you're just your

982
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:18.559
mind's playing tricks on you. You just need to know,

983
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.320
go on to bed. You got a big day tomorrow.

984
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.920
And he said, he walks up to the tent, he's

985
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:28.159
fixing to go into the tent and he said, something

986
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:32.400
just tells him stop. And so he backs out and

987
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.880
he takes his head light and he looks down. He

988
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:39.800
said there was like a row of trees that was

989
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:43.360
by this creek or river, and he said he looks

990
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.400
down these rows of trees, and he said that at

991
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:50.360
about the tenth tree, which I don't remember. I think

992
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:53.239
he was saying it was like maybe fifty yards away

993
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:59.039
or something. He said, there's this clearly, there's this creature

994
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.400
that is standing behind a tree, but the tree is

995
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.000
not big enough to hide it. He said, you can

996
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:07.960
see the shoulder on this side and the shoulder on

997
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:11.400
this side. And he said that he's shining the light

998
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:14.360
on it, just clearly. And he said he's not he

999
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.880
doesn't know whether to get his gun. He doesn't really

1000
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:17.440
know what to do.

1001
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.679
He's just waiting it out big for society, who will

1002
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:22.400
be right back after these messages.

1003
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:41.159
And he said, after about a couple of minutes, he said,

1004
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:43.639
all of a sudden, he said, you see it tilt

1005
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.840
its head a little bit, and he said you can

1006
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:52.239
clearly see one eye and he said it turns and

1007
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.280
he said it just vanishes in a split second. It's

1008
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:59.000
just gone. And he said that next morning they went

1009
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.480
over there, and he said there was some some sure enough,

1010
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:05.400
good sized footprints, but to them, it's like just another

1011
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:09.519
day I've heard Grandpa told me about them. Just don't

1012
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:12.280
mess with them. They won't mess with me. And they

1013
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.239
go on about it. A lot of the bush pilots

1014
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.760
that you'll talk to. There was one guy was talking

1015
01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:21.480
to and he said that, of course, when when you're

1016
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:25.599
flying a plane in Alaska, it's it's not autopilot. Your

1017
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.840
hands and feet are working all the time because of

1018
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.320
the terrain and in the weather. So it's not a

1019
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.880
situation where you can drive around with your with your

1020
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.559
camera in your hand. But he said that, and this

1021
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.000
wasn't just one, this was a couple of them had

1022
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.320
said that, you'll you'll be flying along there and he said,

1023
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:43.920
all of a sudden, you glance down there on the

1024
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:47.960
river in Bam, You'll you'll see one. It's just for

1025
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:52.239
a second. Uh, they'll they'll notice you coming and and

1026
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:56.559
there their boom, they're in the woods. And so I thought,

1027
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:58.920
I would imagine that that makes sense to me that

1028
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.280
in their job they they do see them quite often,

1029
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.039
or more than what you would think anyway. And then

1030
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:10.519
of course, a lot of the guys that work the rafts,

1031
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:15.480
when you're a raft and you're fishing, you're basically saying,

1032
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.679
so you're not making any noise, and you're right, you're

1033
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:21.440
flowing down that river and you'll come around a bend

1034
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.280
and that didn't happen with us. But we were in

1035
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.960
a place called kyal Ketna, which is the neatest little

1036
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.559
town you ever saw in your life. And there was

1037
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:34.119
some river guides there that we took a trip fishing

1038
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:36.840
trip with, and there was a guy that's saying that

1039
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.719
the year prior they had rounded the bend and they

1040
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:45.119
had seen one out there about knee deep, and he

1041
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:47.519
said that it'd seen them. They've seen it that just

1042
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:49.280
back in the woods.

1043
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.519
It's a fascinating stories. John, You're an absolute wealth of information.

1044
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:55.840
Thank you.

1045
01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:58.360
I just like I said, I just I think there's

1046
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:00.079
I think there's a lot of people that are in

1047
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.960
my same boat that grew up believing that they're in

1048
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:07.639
the Pacific Northwest, that's they're in Canada, they're in Alaska.

1049
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:12.920
And it's not until you just really take the time

1050
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:18.480
to look deeper into or to just explore the things

1051
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:21.440
that you're just dismissing just and maybe they are. There

1052
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:23.840
may be times where you hear something and yeah, it

1053
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.480
is a kyoke, but then other times it may not be.

1054
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.000
And if you're one of those people that you're riding

1055
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.639
the fence and you're like, I think what you'll find

1056
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:35.719
if you just spend a little more time and look

1057
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.880
a little bit closer, that you might be surprised. And

1058
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.800
like I said, I'm looking to get that good cast

1059
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.360
one day. That's my goal is to find a good

1060
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:48.360
I've got my casting kit and everything ready to go

1061
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:50.519
when that day comes. But that's what I'm after.

1062
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:54.079
We'll see you see your main goal is to get

1063
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.639
a really good cast. But what happens if you're out

1064
01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:00.039
there in the cypress and you actually get.

1065
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:04.039
A visual face to face with a what a have

1066
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:05.119
you thought that to it?

1067
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:10.320
I don't know. After the episode with the roar, I'm

1068
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.639
not even sure that I could keep myself together at

1069
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.719
you hear you listen to these podcasts and you hear

1070
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.239
these people that have these experiences, these close up experiences,

1071
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:24.440
and I just gotta wonder, could I keep it together

1072
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:28.599
if But it was so strange, Like I said, my

1073
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.280
girlfriend was she was in full blown panic mode. Now

1074
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:36.719
she was panic, and I was just I was off

1075
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:39.400
in another world. I was. When we talked about it,

1076
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:42.039
I told her, I said, I did hear the roar,

1077
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:47.039
but my mind was sitting there processing what was that?

1078
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:50.840
And I said, I really. I The fear didn't come

1079
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:55.159
upon me until I had actually processed the fact that,

1080
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:00.119
oh my gosh, that was something. And then I'm like, oh,

1081
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:04.360
good lord. When you tell I hear people that are like,

1082
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.000
I've got my Trusty forty five. That's so I ain't

1083
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:10.559
gonna get me step. Yeah, I'm here to tell you

1084
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.480
what if a bigfoot wanted to take you out, I

1085
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:18.119
don't care what you got, You're gone. I mean that

1086
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.599
that's clear to me. They're just so stealthy that I

1087
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:24.880
don't You're just not gonna do it. And that that's

1088
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.400
that gets on another subject that talking to the people

1089
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:33.559
in Canada so far is that they believe that Sasquatch

1090
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.320
in a lot of ways are like people, that they

1091
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:43.159
have different personalities. I know my girlfriend is, she's of

1092
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.800
the belief a red fer. If they got that red for,

1093
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:52.039
they're mean, they're nasty, but if they're brown or black,

1094
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:55.719
they're more docile. And of course I'm always laughing at it,

1095
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.119
but it's if you really get to looking at it,

1096
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.599
you listen to people, and the ones that are the

1097
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:04.039
red for actually do say, be a little bit more aggressive.

1098
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:06.880
And there's no science behind it. I've come up with

1099
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:09.519
that other than just hearing people's stories.

1100
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:11.960
So I've heard that as well.

1101
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:16.119
Yeah, and so I agree. I think that they're I

1102
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:20.119
think that they've got distinct It's like anybody else. It's

1103
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:23.480
what were you exposed to coming up that caused you

1104
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.599
to be the way you are. And I think that

1105
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:29.079
the ones that are violent had probably been exposed to that,

1106
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.239
and the ones that are hot have probably been exposed

1107
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.079
to kindness, and so I think that affects how they

1108
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:40.280
actually act. But I do believe overall they're extremely shy

1109
01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:41.760
creatures in my opinion.

1110
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.280
Last question for you, it's a weird one, and if

1111
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.119
you don't have anything, that's fine. It's actually a question

1112
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.159
for all the listeners too, just in case, but have

1113
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:55.480
you ever heard anything weird coming out of the Franklin County,

1114
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:56.440
Texas area?

1115
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.440
I have heard are you talking as far? Is just

1116
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.400
weird in general?

1117
01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:06.199
Mainly bigfoot related, but I guess I guess that could

1118
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:07.679
be anything but mainly big foot.

1119
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:11.159
Really, I have heard some stories, but what I've heard

1120
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.599
has more been I don't know the mix of a

1121
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:18.719
bigfoot dog man really what I've heard now you know

1122
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:22.320
that for what that's worth. But I have heard of

1123
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:26.960
some strange things happening in that air. Of course, another

1124
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.840
area that's got strange stuff happening is down in Saratoga, Texas,

1125
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:34.559
where the where the brag light is at. Sure, there's

1126
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:37.039
a lot there's a lot of people that, or I

1127
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:39.760
say a lot of people. There are people that believe that.

1128
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.320
Of course, the legend is the train conductor who lost

1129
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.920
his head and he's looking for his head and got

1130
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.039
the light there. There are people, of course, that's backed

1131
01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:52.159
up to the Big Thicket Preserve, which is thousands of

1132
01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:56.639
acres of preserve, and there's people that you when you

1133
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.800
start talking to those people, those are the people that

1134
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.360
believe that Bigfoot has got something to do with portals,

1135
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:09.079
and they believe that the light that people see. I've

1136
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.639
actually been down there in sack what that's worth, but yeah,

1137
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:14.360
and it's what it looks like. It looks like in

1138
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:16.840
the distance there's this, of course this was back in

1139
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:19.399
the nineties when I saw it. There's this dancing light.

1140
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:22.760
And I have no explain I've heard everything under the

1141
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:27.479
sun's from gas you name it the moon shadows. But

1142
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:32.399
there are some people that believe that that is a portal,

1143
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:35.560
and that is why that there are some people that

1144
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.319
there's quite a few sightings from time to time down

1145
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:44.079
in that area bigfoot related. And you've got that group

1146
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:45.760
of people to say, hey, that's that portal.

1147
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.079
So Franklin, how you said, there is there actual dogment

1148
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:54.920
sightings around that area too. There are seen together or

1149
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:59.039
a kind of separate sightings with dog man versus Bigfoot.

1150
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:03.319
I've the stories that I've heard now, I've heard a

1151
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:10.479
few people with bigfoot related stories. But I was listening. Gosh,

1152
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:14.159
it's been seems but I was listening to a guy

1153
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.000
that I think he was on Dark Waters.

1154
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:18.760
Oh sure, yeah, yeah.

1155
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:22.720
And I think this guy was from over there, and

1156
01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:26.199
it was dog man related. This guy, and I'm thinking

1157
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.840
this guy was a I'm wanting to say that this

1158
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:32.079
guy was even a deputy sheriff. Don't quote me on that,

1159
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but it seemed like he was a constable or something

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like that, and I specifically remember it was dog man.

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Very interesting. It has been a fun time chatting with you, John.

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Thank you so much for reaching out to me.

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You're very welcome. You're very welcome, and I am here

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your podcasts and I just I just like the way

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you do business. I just really appreciate you.

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Thank you, and I don't think that the activity is

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going to let up on your your ranch that you

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deal with, so please keep me in the loop with

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what continues to happen down there. Just wanted to take

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a few minutes to say thank you to you all

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my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a

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to the following or know someone who has, please reach

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out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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or pass on my email. Here's the list. Number one

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encounters from Franklin County, Texas. Number two encounters from the

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entire state of Iowa. Number three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon

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or the surrounding area. Number four any individuals that know

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about Bigfoot being flown off after the Mount Saint Helens eruption.

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Number five individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter while

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in the military. Number six. Those that have had a

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bigfoot encounter in the southern New Hampshire or north central

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Massachusetts area including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

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Number seven.

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Individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in a Bible

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camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight individuals that

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have had bigfoot try to enter their house forcibly while

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they were living inside. Number nine individuals that have actively

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have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly, any

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sightings that are in the Watchitaw National Forest Area of

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Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you to all the

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