Jan. 18, 2025

Years of Bigfoot Activity in Clackamas County!

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as he talks with Brandon, a listener who shares incredible encounters of Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest. Brandon recounts his chilling experiences from childhood camping trips in the Mount Rainier area,...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as he talks with Brandon, a listener who shares incredible encounters of Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest. Brandon recounts his chilling experiences from childhood camping trips in the Mount Rainier area, Washington, to unexplained occurrences on his property in Colton, Oregon near Goat Mountain. Delve into the eerie face-to-face sighting on Burley Mountain, near Randle, WA, and vocalizations heard in the Mollala River Corridor and many, many more.

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slash the big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the

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privilege of talking to Brandon today. Brandon is an individual

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that reached out to me through email. He's a listener

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and reached out with some interesting things that he would

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like to share from out there in the Pacific Northwest.

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I'll let him fill in the details with that for Brandon.

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How's it going today, man, Hi, Jeremiah, good, how are

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you doing.

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We're doing pretty good. Starting to get a little chilly

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out here in Iowa, but I think we're going to

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make it through. So I've been looking forward to chatting

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to you tonight. So yeah, man, go ahead and feel

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free to take us back to when this all started

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for you, these these big footwar counters that you had

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over the years.

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Yeah.

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So when I was a kid, my brother and I

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would go camping. It seems like we went on a

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camping trip every.

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Summer with our dad, and so we would.

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Go up and we would usually camp around Mount Rainier

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and one of the summers. And this was back in

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nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety. I was I believe

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I was ten, almost eleven. It was, you know, either

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July or August, and we were up on a mountain.

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It's called Burley Mountain and it's close to the closest

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town would be Randall, Washington, so not far from you know,

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like Packwood, and you go up that Highway twelve which

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runs up the Mount Rainier on the west side, so

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you got a pretty good view from up there.

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So we went up there and.

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It was a dry campground up there, called a pull Patch,

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and it wasn't you know, there wasn't really anything I

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don't think up there to really bring in too many people,

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you know, where it was located, and so we were

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up about I think around I would say, close to

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four thousand feet. But I remember going up there and

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you know, just a little side thing like before. When

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we first got there, my brother and I, you know,

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I was, you know, us being kids.

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He was a little bit younger than me.

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We were out exploring and checking out around the camp

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and we found these big boulders piles and there was

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like three different mounds of them, and then there was

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it kind of funneled down in the centers of them,

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and it was all to the ground.

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So we just thought it was kind of cool. So

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we were.

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Playing around that, which I didn't you know, really think

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much of it then. And then we had four nights

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of camping up there, and it was actually my dad,

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so my brother and I and then he had a

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girlfriend with a couple of kids of going.

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To girl so it was all of us.

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So we had one of those you know, really common

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green canvas kind of coal intins, you know, back in

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the eighties, and so it wasn't you know, like we

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have now, but you know, it was big enough for us.

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So the first night nobody was there. The second day,

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nobody had came in. It was just us in the campground.

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There's probably about eight to ten spots there at the most,

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I'd say it's pretty small. And I remember going. We

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had a fire going, and I was the first one

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for some reason. Was I was tired, I guess before

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anybody else. But anyway, so I went to bed. So

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this second night we were there and I'm laying and

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I ended up waking up on my back and I'm

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on the far right side of the tent, and we

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had the screen open so you could see out the

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top window part on the tent. Well, as soon as

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I opened my eyes, I looked up and I saw

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this thing standing there and it was staring down into

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the tent right really within you know, probably a foot

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really close to the tent, you know, maybe two at

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the most, a foot or two. It was really close

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to the tent and it was looking downward and it

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was just staring. And I started looking at it, and

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it was I could see a little bit of light

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still from the fire, and it was everybody had went

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to bed, and it looked like it looked resembled a

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man in the face, but it had this long hair.

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But I noticed on the top of its head, which

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I thought was strange. Confusing too, was it had ears

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that were sticking up and there were somewhat rounded on

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the sides of the head towards the top now, But

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when I started looking at the face kind of analyzing

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down it, it.

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Looked it resembled a very hairy man.

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And it had i would say, about three inch hair,

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dark dark eyes, and it just was very It didn't

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make any expression at all. It was just staring and

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it never even blinked the whole time I was looking

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at it. But as I was looking down, I could

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see the thick hair going down his neck and I

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could see about I would say, just the upper part

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of the chest is about as far as I could see.

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And it was standing there, you know, and I'm thinking

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it's standing there like a man, and I really thought

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it was a man, but I'm like, those ears are weird,

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and I'm like, it's just way too hairy. I've never

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seen a man look that hairy, you know, So, you know,

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a kid's perspective, I'm thinking, I don't know what it is,

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and so I you know, I was.

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Laying there and thinking, am I dreaming? Is this real?

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Am I dreaming, and so I remember just hearing the

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wind and the crickets, and I knew it kind of

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really just settled in that I'm awake, you know, I

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am really looking at this thing, and I didn't know

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what to do, and so I kind of, I don't know,

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I got really scared. I remember and rolling over and

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you know, thinking I was right up against the side

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of the tent, basically right at the edge of the tent,

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and I'm like, there's nothing to protect me. And so

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I rolled over towards my brother that's in the sleep

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by next to me, and I look over and I

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see everybody sleeping, and I just shut my eyes and

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then I'm out and I woke up, I know, the

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next morning, and I didn't say nothing to anybody about it.

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I didn't tell my dad, and I remember going out

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and looking and we had a picnic table and there

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was some little marks on some bread that was left out,

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you know, probably from mice, could be you know, and

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but I didn't see anything mess with.

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But I didn't. I was confused on what I saw.

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I'm like, I could see the ears kind of I'm

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thinking bear with that, but it looked way too of

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a man looking with all the hair and the way

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it was straight up and down.

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Like a person would be standing.

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And I was like, well, I don't think a bear

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would be doing that, you know, But the face was

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more to me. It reminded me of kind of a

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typical caveman look would look.

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Like in the face.

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And the other thing was I mean, it was maybe

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a little taller than the tent, but it wasn't that tall,

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so it wasn't like super tall, you know, obvious like

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you hear some encounters.

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So I didn't know.

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I was just like, I don't know what it is,

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but it really scared me, and I knew I saw something.

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And so I remember on the third night, we had

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somebody come in towards the evening and camped, and then

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after the fourth night we had left and started heading

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down the mountain, and then I said something to my

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dad and I said, I saw something, and I told

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him I don't know what it was, but I did

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mention maybe it could have been, you know, as a

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big foot, which you know, I didn't. I knew a

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little bit of, you know, growing up in this you know,

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the Northwest, but I told him and he kind of

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just like was thinking, oh, maybe I'm just you know,

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imagining or dreaming or something. I said, no, I really

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did see something. So I kept repeating it a few times,

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and he goes, oh, okay, well I believe you that

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you saw something, and so leaving then, you know, and

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heading back. I didn't know, you know, I kept going

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over in my head.

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I'm not knowing what.

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Exactly I saw, but I was leaning towards what I

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thought it was. Probably But and I'm thinking to myself, like, well,

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you know, back then, it wasn't so mainstream, so I

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didn't know, like I didn't really have the internet, you know,

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to jump on and me and so you too, I guess.

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But so I just kind of But I did have some.

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Relatives that I found out not too long after that

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that had encounters. One of them this stands out as

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my my grandma on my mom's side. She's she's passed now,

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but she back in the seventies, she said to her

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and my grandpa were road hunting up in Aberdeen, Washington area,

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and she said they were driving along and there was

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a meadow. And every time she tell the story, you know,

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because she'd tell her over the years to us grandkids,

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and that this hairy, long human wearied with long arms

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was swaying its arms and walking through this opening of

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this in this meadow.

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But when she saw.

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It, she she wouldn't she didn't even know what she

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couldn't even say anything. So they're driving along, well, they

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passed it and got back to the trees, and she goes,

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I think I saw and then he turned or backed

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up and it was no longer in the field there.

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But they had talked to the locals in the area,

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she had said, and the loggers that they were in

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the area and said, yes, we do see that one.

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You know, we've seen it before at different times. So

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that story growing up. And then then an uncle of mine,

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I actually had one of the bigfoot things down the

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road happened with him.

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He would tell a.

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Story that he had seen one walking over It was

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over west and over again over and let me see

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it's what area was. It's towards Hillsboro, but just south

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of there. It's I mean, think of the name. But anyway,

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he said that when he was in his early twenties

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he had seen one around dusk and it was walking

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through a graveyard and it kind of a kind of

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creeped him out, and he that story over the years.

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But I, you know, I didn't know.

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Like I'm thinking to myself, is there just like so

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many a few of these out here, you know, Like

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I didn't understand as a kid, and when I got older, well,

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let me see, really, actually now I want to put

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this in there because this is something that I didn't

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pay attention.

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To a lot. So when I was.

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This was probably a year or two before my encounter happened.

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We actually moved to a town over near Malala or

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again it's Colton, just a small little town kind of

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between Esticada and Malala. And so we moved on almost

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five acres and it was a base of the Cascade

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Range there and it's actually the mountains called Goat Mountain.

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And so we moved into this old house and and

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it's weird was things would happen there and it really

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didn't add up to anything. But one of the things

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I think early on was my mom would say that

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she would hear the back door a handle, a wiggle,

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and also rocks, little rocks would come up and hit

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the back side of their house. Once we put an

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addition on, so it was after that, so probably a

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couple of years of living in it could be a

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little longer. But anyway, the back of the house. But

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my stepdad would work graveyard at a bakery, and she

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said it always happened when he was gone, so these

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things would happen, you know. She didn't know what it was,

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but she knew that she could hear the handle moving

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on the door and then the rocks hitting the back.

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I think they had a slighter, you know, glass window

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door there in the back. And I would say about

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ninety five when we were there, these two bigfoot guys

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came up and would ask questions, come on and talk

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to us, and they were telling us, you know that

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these these bigfoot come.

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On our property.

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And there there we Basically what it was is we

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had on the right or the left side of our

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property from the roadside was all blm land going down

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and kind of around, and there's two other little properties

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that were one of them in the middle was smaller

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and the other one on the other side of us

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on the right. There those three clusters of little properties

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and then it was all bllm land around us, except

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on the other side there was a big acreage somebody

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had owned.

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But it's weird.

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Was I remember one incident that happened there that I

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thought was odd and I didn't know what was going on,

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but I was. I was about fifteen sixteen on the

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and I remember I was walking up we had this

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driveway down. We had a trailer at the bottom, kind

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of towards the bottom of the property. But anyways, walking

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up the road and there's pretty heavy, thick forest with

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a we had a fence along the blm side of

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our land.

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Big so society will be right back after these messages.

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So on the towards the road and be on our left.

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And I was walking up it towards the road and

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it was fall and I remember hearing hearing what sounded

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like leaves crunching.

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Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch.

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Like that, and I was like, and it was just

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across from me on the other side. It's really dark

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and that forrest and I would stop and it stopped

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and I start walking again, and it would start back up.

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As soon as I stopped, it would I hear crunch stop,

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you know.

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So it did that a few times, and I just

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thought something was there watching me, and in my head,

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not really knowing a whole lot. Then I'm thinking, maybe

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it's a cougar, you know. And then I'm finding out,

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you know, cougar's typically will stalk you, you know, from

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behind on the corner, you know, kittie corner. So I'm like,

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and then I've heard, you know, then I kind of

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put together these other reports I've heard of where they

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were being paste right by, you know, like just like that.

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And so I had wondered about that, looking back, if

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if there was one over there that was heading up

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the property. Now, I do know one of the things

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that really stood out that I remember around that period

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is when those two guys come up there, those guys

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that were investigators and Bigfoot. One of them, well one

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of them actually he was a cook at my school

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for my grade school, so he was younger probably I

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don't know, probably ten years younger than the other guy,

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which he was. He had lived over and esticated actually,

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But anyway, they would come up.

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They came up a few times.

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But one of the trips up, they took us across

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the street, my stepdad and I and they said, look

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at this, and they showed us these trees they were

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about eight feet up and the branches there was probably

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five or six of them, and they were like somebody

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had took a hand and cranked them around and around.

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They were all twisted up, and they said that they thought,

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you know what they said, they thought the bigfoots were

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up there doing it and they would show each other strength,

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is you know what they said. Now, my stepdad was

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totally did not believe in anything like that, which I

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still don't think he does. But you know, we had

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no explanation for that. It's like, I know, no grown

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man could ever do with those branches.

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They were thick enough.

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There's no way anybody could have cranked them like that

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and twisted them. And they also said that they had

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rocks thrown at their vehicle when they left, they said

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the last time they were there. And so, you know,

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I didn't really know what to think, you know, so

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I kind of feel like, you know, I did come

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across some footprints one time when I was about twelve.

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We were playing outside in the snow.

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It was in the snow, so it wasn't it wasn't

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probably real, real fresh, but it did resemble footprints and

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we were just being kids. We were playing hiding I'll

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seek out in the snow and coming across this like

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trackway of tracks, but it didn't look like our feet.

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It looked more like bare feet.

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But I just kind of shrugged it off and went

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back to doing what we were doing.

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But I do know I did have one, and I

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don't know what.

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This was, but I remember, you know, because we had

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obviously possibly bear. I know we had a cougar because

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I saw one, a pretty good sized cougar one time.

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I was standing out in the driveway and my uncle

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and I everyone.

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Uncle was like, we happened to see this.

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I don't know if somebody saw if he saw it

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and told me to come out, but it was just

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going up the road.

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But it was a good sized cougar.

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And so but I know my mom had seen a

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bear cub down the road too one time, so we

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knew there was bear around. But I did have one

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winter evening I was outside and you know, I was

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I was thinking I was a on fifteen sixteen.

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I had a little puppy and it was.

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Just after dark, and I was just taking the puppy outside,

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you know, do his thing, and come back in. Well

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I heard this growl, and it was a pretty deep growl,

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and it came from across the road from our house

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in the trees, and I don't know what that was.

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I thought bear bear, you know, I'm thinking to myself,

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and I ran and I went in the house right away,

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and I told my step down.

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I was like, well, I just heard.

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This real deep growl outside, and he's like, oh, it's

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probably a neighbor dog. But I knew it wasn't no dog,

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you know, I knew it had to be a bear.

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But I think it was a pretty big growl. I mean,

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it kind of reminded me, but maybe not quite to

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that level. But when and I'm sure you've seen it,

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but finding bigfoot starts up the beginning, I mean, but

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not to quite that level, i'd say, but it resembled that.

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But you know, I know that my brother and I

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we really we built some forts outside. And there was

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a time I remember in the back of the property.

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We had a three wheeler and I was cutting down

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trying to make a trail and just feeling like I'm

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being watched, you know, didn't see anything, but I really

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felt like I was being watched that day, and so

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I just kind of I didn't know exactly, you know,

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about but later on in life, I would say, you know,

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after that era of that time, you know, it really

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got me as I got really curious. And I saw

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a show on TV and this was probably around two

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thousand and eight or nine, two thousand and eight, and

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it said if you had a big foot sighting, you

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know that you can contact and it was a BFRO

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you know. So at the end of this show and

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I was like, huh, I was like, you know, I

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wouldn't mind saying something about this to someone and see

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if they got any thing that I could learn or

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feedback on it, you know, and what they think. So

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I did that and this guy had called me up

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that lived up in a limp, well actually he lived

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in Spanaway, Washington is where he was from. But anyway,

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he calls me up and you know, we get to talk.

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Any wants to know more detail in the face what

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I saw, and then he starts giving me some information

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that I didn't know about at the time, you know,

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like he was letting me know about how you know,

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at that time, I never heard about him going down

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on flours, you know, running around like that that they

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they if you get eyes on him, you may you know,

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may not want to look away or anything, because they

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very well could be gone really really quickly, and so

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made me kind of think, wow, you know, I wouldn't

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mind seeing one again or having some accounter. So I

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contacted my dad and he lived up you know, still

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around the Mount Rainier area, and we we had decided

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because I had talked to this guy and I was like, well,

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I'd like to go up in the Cascade Range. You

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think we might be able to you know, have an encounter.

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And he said, yeah, yeah, they're definitely up there, you know,

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just where, but they're up there. And so so we

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plan a camping trip and this and I would say

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this was in let me see two thousand eight nine,

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right around there, because it was right before it was

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actually right before Finding Bigfoot came out the first season started.

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And so we went up.

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We went up there, and we ended up doing was

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we thought, we'll find a place where hopefully nobody's at,

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you know, or maybe where it dead ends up up.

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So what I did was I researched the Malaw Corridor

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and on bfro back in that that time there was

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thirty some encounters, and I'd been in the Malala River,

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you know, in the summer a little bit but I

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didn't never really gone up the river, and it goes

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up quite a ways, you know, up that river, and

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and so we decided, okay, we'll go up there and

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we'll find a spot, hopefully you know, by ourselves, and

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we'll see what happens. So we so we ended up

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going up we did was we went up for We

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ended up going up for I believe. Yeah, it was

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one night, so was about the middle of the week.

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It was actually August tenty twenty second.

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I believe.

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Of that year. We went up there, and so we

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had found a spot. We went way up past the river.

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Actually we veered off to the left. We found some

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roads that went up and actually I mean probably as

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like a grow flers, we're probably ten miles. We ended

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up north of Detroit Lake. So it was out there,

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and so we I actually at the time had three

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boys that and they they wanted to go, so I

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went ahead, and you know, and the thing was, it's

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like one of the things this got investigator told me

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is like, you know, and this is not that I

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can one hundred percent anything's guaranteed, you know, but he's like,

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they're very curious, and they're very curious they'll come around,

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you know, like you can't just go out.

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And look for them.

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Usually normally want them to come to you, so I thought,

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and they're curious of especially you know, curious of little ones.

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They're more comfortable with, you know, those little kids, you know,

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being around or female more than males. And so anyway,

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the boys wanted to go, so my dad was we

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had he had a conversion van, and so we went

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up in the middle of the week and we got

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up to the spot and it was almost dark. It

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was dusk at the time. We found the spot a.

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Dead end and we could tell, you know, nobody could

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go buy us.

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I buy us veered off by itself and ended at

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the end of this road. So we'd get out, and

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my boys were were, you know, kind of scared.

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You know, they're pretty pretty young.

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I guess, and they were like, oh, it's getting dark,

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you know, kind of carrying on a little bit.

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And we hunted down.

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We got a fire going and we had I think

464
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:51.480
we had marshmallows and stuff, you know, and the kids

465
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.079
enjoyed it, and and then we thought maybe we'll do

466
00:26:55.160 --> 00:27:01.480
a little you know, to see what happens after the boys.

467
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.960
Three boys go to bed. So we got them to bed.

468
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:10.079
You know, in the van, there's a pretty well used

469
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.640
game trail. The veers off to the right of camp.

470
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:16.480
This kind of goes out a ways. My dad decides

471
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.960
he's going to go over that way and head down

472
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.799
at a little bit, and I was going to walk

473
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.359
just walk up the road just a little bit from

474
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.960
our place. Right, so there's a hill that drops down

475
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.079
I would say one hundred and fifty feet and there's

476
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.839
a tree line. Well, I decide, well, I'm just gonna

477
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.839
do I'm going to try a little call, you know,

478
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.359
just not too loud.

479
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:44.359
But I actually had.

480
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.200
Bought a megaphone, but I'm like, I'm not going to

481
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.000
bring that out with the kids sleeping, you know. So

482
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.440
I do kind of a scream, kind of down a

483
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.559
little bit. And soon as I did that, Jeremi, I

484
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:05.960
hear something just cruising up the hill and it's breaking

485
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.720
everything in his path. I could hear all this cracking

486
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.519
and it's coming straight up to me, and I knew

487
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.079
when I heard this. I was like, I know that

488
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.599
whatever this is, it's big because it's breaking everything in

489
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:27.000
his path and it comes straight up stops, you know,

490
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:31.440
right in the tree line there, and I'm I'm.

491
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.160
Standing there just thinking, Okay, what should I do?

492
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:39.519
You know, So I do some clapping, put my hands out,

493
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.880
you know, I say hi. You know, I'm just gestures

494
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.880
trying to see if I get anything. Well, I did

495
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:49.640
start getting this chipmunk squawking up in the tree, and

496
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.599
it would go over and over and over like taddling

497
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.400
that this thing is right there, you know, down below.

498
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.720
And so I probably have that for about I don't know,

499
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:05.279
probably five minutes or less. And then my dad comes

500
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:09.400
walking over to me and he tells me, he goes,

501
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:14.200
I was over there and I heard this thump like

502
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:19.319
stomp sound that hit the ground hard, and then he

503
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.160
decided to go ahead and head back the camp. And

504
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.640
so he tells me that, and I tell him, well,

505
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.480
I just heard something and it's big, and it came

506
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.680
right up to the end of this tree line here

507
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:34.799
and there, and it's.

508
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.440
There big for society will be right back after these messages.

509
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.119
It's got to be there. And so.

510
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.799
He's got a n vision, you know, just a regular

511
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.880
first generation. But there is an opening between the trees

512
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:09.160
a little bit, and so we're kind of taking turns

513
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:13.279
trying to look and you know.

514
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:16.160
And then then mug was.

515
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:20.759
Still squawking off and on, and then my dad he

516
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:25.119
turns to me and he goes, I just got hit

517
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.839
with with a little like rock, like a pubble sized rock.

518
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.680
And the pant leg he had pants on, like like

519
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.680
like you know, the Army Khaki one. So they were

520
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:41.920
you know, they weren't real close to his legs. But

521
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.799
he said he felt it. And then he goes, but

522
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.720
not once twice and he said, and I got hit

523
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:53.759
twice in the same spot, and so and I thought, WHOA.

524
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.960
So I thought, well, I just felt like if you know,

525
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.240
at that point, I know, my heart has tuk to

526
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.440
pick up a little bit, you know, and I'm thinking

527
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.599
to myself, wow, well if they're if this is real

528
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.240
and this is really what's going on, you know, I

529
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.759
just found it kind of hard to believe. I mean,

530
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:16.160
just going up there and then happening like that. But

531
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:20.240
I thought, this is this is probably real, you know,

532
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.359
most likely, you know, because I knew it wasn't a

533
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.759
human and I knew it wasn't probably a normal animal

534
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.640
at that point, you know. So we were just listening

535
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.440
and you know, looking back and forth, we never saw

536
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.160
anything with the night vision go between the trees. But

537
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:44.680
I do remember then probably after i'd say fifteen.

538
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:49.640
Minutes, I hear some movement, and it's just barely, you know.

539
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.359
You know, I don't think my dad could make it out,

540
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.400
you know, me being what late twenties at the time,

541
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:58.880
but you know, I could, really I could hear something,

542
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.720
but it was barely. It was moving from from the

543
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.400
right side to the left towards that other noise that

544
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.680
came up there. So it's almost and I could hear

545
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.680
it just enough to know that was moving through there.

546
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:18.440
And then it just after about I would say thirty minutes,

547
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:19.759
the chimunk quit.

548
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:25.279
It went quiet, and so we went back to camp.

549
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.839
And nothing else happened that night. Well, I know, the

550
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:35.640
next morning, I was excited to go and get down

551
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.680
in that forest, you know, and see if there's any

552
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.440
signs of what happened last night. And so there were

553
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.279
some dry river beds going up. It was pretty gnarly

554
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.480
thick brush. There was Devil's clubs up and down these

555
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.799
dry river beds that were going down. So it was

556
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.200
really hard to get through, you know, and I had

557
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.200
some tall boots and I had trouble getting through it.

558
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:00.920
But I knew that.

559
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.319
There was no chance that it was a person, you know,

560
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.400
going through that at night, you know, because it was

561
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:11.640
I would say when it happened. It was between ten

562
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.440
thirteen and eleven o'clock when when the activity started happening

563
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.519
that night. But I but I did, I did notice

564
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.359
and then the ground was dry and it was for

565
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.799
needles and everything down. But I did make out a

566
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:29.039
footprint that really looked like a footprint just enough that

567
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.240
it was It looked like a footprint with ches going

568
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:34.440
to the left, like something was moving from the right

569
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:35.359
to the left through there.

570
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.599
And so I did end up.

571
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:40.359
I don't know where it happened, but I did have

572
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.599
a picture with I remember what I used for size comparison,

573
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.559
but I do remember remember measuring it, and it was

574
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.839
I think it was fourteen inch. The size that I

575
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.000
measured the one that really stood out to be very probable.

576
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:03.000
And so that was really the I mean, I wish

577
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.079
I could have seen more of what it broke.

578
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:06.720
I really didn't.

579
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.400
Make out too much, and I know I was kind

580
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.480
of feeling like a new be out doing this, but

581
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.000
I know whatever that was that came up there that

582
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.000
night had to have been I mean it sounded like

583
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.760
they would described an elephant. I mean it sounded huge,

584
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.320
and it was just moving at a good pace, you know,

585
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.159
up that up to the top.

586
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.880
Now. So we had one night.

587
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.000
There and the next day we end up staying for

588
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.440
part of the day. I know, I did find this branch.

589
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:39.079
It was right along that game trail and a tree

590
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.800
that went up. And right along that trail there was

591
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:45.519
a branch that was about I would say or a

592
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.960
tree that went up and it was bent over and

593
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.840
it was bent over all the way down and it

594
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.679
was I would say, a good three inch thick and

595
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.079
it was down ripped down at that and I just thought, wow,

596
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.840
that's if that's I didn't we didn't see it being natural,

597
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.840
you know, and it was that would take a lot

598
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:11.519
to do that. And so we had one night there

599
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.000
and I had to actually go back to work. So

600
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.920
my dad, I think he went and hung out with

601
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.440
my brother that lived local, and then we ended up

602
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:26.760
meeting back the following week. So we went back up

603
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.199
and I think at that point it was just me

604
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.719
and him. No, naturally, the boys were there too again

605
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.400
because they wanted to go because they Yeah, so they

606
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.400
ended up going too, and we found two other locations

607
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.079
that were right near that spot we were at, so

608
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.960
we thought we would try one of those. So one

609
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.960
of them went down because hearing this thing coming up

610
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.840
from the valley, so I thought, well, why don't we

611
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:57.880
get down in the valley a little bit more where

612
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.800
maybe it came from, we were thinking. So we went

613
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:07.480
down this road I would say about gosh, I would say,

614
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.760
it's three quarters of a mile down this gravel road

615
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.079
that veered off from the main one and down and

616
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.599
it looped around and then it ended down there and

617
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.280
there was an old like logging area. They had logging

618
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:23.480
road that went up and it's overgrown, and so we

619
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:31.039
camped out there, and you know, it was really really quiet,

620
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.559
I remember, and one of the nights I think it

621
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.000
was let me think, I think we went up for actually,

622
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.239
how many nights was it. I think it was three nights.

623
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.480
I'd say three to four nights. It was at least

624
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:51.480
three nights. And I remember one of those nights we

625
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.880
it was getting late and it was really quiet, nothing

626
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.760
going on. We had a fire going, the boys were sleeping,

627
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.840
you know, in the van. So we thought, you know,

628
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.039
maybe we'll just go up the road a little bit

629
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.000
up that road and.

630
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.000
Oh, you know, I got it. One more thing I

631
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.079
should add before this.

632
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:15.320
So that day before this, so we had walked up

633
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:19.920
that old road that dad end up there with trees

634
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.599
down and stuff. So my dad was like, you know,

635
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.639
I'm getting this feeling like we're being watched. And I

636
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.079
told him, I said, yeah, you know, I actually feel

637
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:38.280
that too, And so we had this weird feeling of

638
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:43.159
being watched. Well, so everything went quiet, you know, that

639
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.599
that evening until we decided about I would say.

640
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.320
Two thirty quarter three. Somewhere around there.

641
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.599
We walked down the road there was a little creek,

642
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.239
so we did some calls and you know, and then

643
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.760
we didn't hear anything come back, no noises, So we

644
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.119
wandered back to the camp. Well, we sat down at

645
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.559
the fire. So we're just sitting there, you know, probably

646
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:11.159
ten minutes. Well actually it wasn't even much time at all,

647
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:15.199
because we sat down and we're just sitting there and

648
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.360
it's probably a few minutes and then we hear this

649
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:26.639
whistle from the woods and it's it's right now about

650
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:32.119
three am. And this whistle was an attention whistle, you know,

651
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.480
right to the tee and and I'm like, that was

652
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.199
not a bird, you know, and he goes, no, And

653
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.880
we knew, you know, the whistle sound, of course what

654
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:47.519
it was, and so and I'd say it was you know,

655
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.159
I kind of pointed what direction I thought it was

656
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.480
in the woods, and he thought it was actually a

657
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:55.679
different one. But I was pretty sure what direction it

658
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.199
was from. So we get up and you know, it

659
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.320
gets our attention, right, So we're looking over there, I

660
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:06.800
can't see anything. I actually had a video recorder going,

661
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.519
which I think I actually have that whistle. It was

662
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.599
on a little sony handicam, which you know, I couldn't

663
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.039
ever get it, but I think if when I hooked

664
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.280
it up the speakers, I might be able to get it.

665
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:23.960
But anyway, but so it got our attention. Well, I

666
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.280
I knew, we knew that that was not vocals from

667
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.519
a from a bird, and it wasn't you know, we

668
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.239
didn't we did not think it was a person up there,

669
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.360
right because it was a dead end. It was the

670
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.760
middle of the night, and so that was weird. And

671
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.440
then so we went back. We you know, we we thought, wow,

672
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:45.440
that was that was something to hear, and then you know,

673
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.800
things ended up dying down after that, and then you know, we.

674
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:50.239
We would went to bed.

675
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.239
I remember calling up that investigator guy because I told

676
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:55.719
him we were going to go camping. I go, hey,

677
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.320
so I want to tell you what happened, And so

678
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.679
I told him about the first incident.

679
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:01.280
I told you about it.

680
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.000
I told him about the whistle and he goes, well,

681
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.559
you know, it's exactly what it was. It was trying

682
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.000
to get your attention over there. He said, more than

683
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.880
likely there was another wind around your camp closer and

684
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.400
I said, well, yeah, the boys were sleeping in the van.

685
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.360
I wanted to go back up there to the area,

686
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:28.280
but I really wasn't wanting to go up there by myself.

687
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.960
My dad living you know, two and a half three

688
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.119
hours away, you know, he would you know, wouldn't be

689
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.239
able to always get back to go. So I know,

690
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.599
some time went by and I had some friends from

691
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.000
a church I was going to and we went on

692
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:48.039
this trip with them. I was to a cabin at

693
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.039
a lake actually, and I was telling them, hey, you know,

694
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.159
you know, finding Bigfoot was on, and they kind of

695
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:56.840
washed a little bit of it, and I was telling them, well,

696
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.599
I had these things happen up here, and it seems

697
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:00.719
like there's there.

698
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.280
Around it seems in this area.

699
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.719
We actually went up there, I would say a couple

700
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.440
of years, so.

701
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.119
About two thousand.

702
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.519
If I can remember exact day twenty eleven, But it

703
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.519
was like in June. It was early enough there was

704
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.519
still snow up in the area that we would normally.

705
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.239
Go to, so we really were anty to get up there.

706
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.320
So we ended up going up past the river and

707
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:33.119
then we veered off at a place that it's called

708
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:38.000
table Rock, and there's a table rock trail on this

709
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.880
mountain and there's actually a rooster Rock trail on the

710
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.320
other side. So we went up there and we took

711
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.599
a rite and we went out to the end where

712
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.000
a dead end, and we decided maybe it was a

713
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.000
good place to do vocals and camp, so we wanted

714
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.760
to go ahead and just do a camping trip there

715
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:56.480
and check it out.

716
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.599
So we ended up camping.

717
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:03.920
There, and I remember I was doing calls out into

718
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:07.280
the valley down into the river, you know corridor, well

719
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.159
around dusk. I mean, I thought this was a little odd,

720
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.719
but you know, we didn't really know what to think

721
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:15.519
of it too much.

722
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.039
So there was a dark.

723
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:26.599
Like military chopper that was coming low just over the

724
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:31.760
road over the corridor, just going slow up the river area,

725
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.199
and then it would turn around and go back slow,

726
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.159
and we were like, I wonder what's going on. Maybe

727
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:42.119
maybe they're looking for somebody. So I don't know what

728
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.679
that was about. So I think it at least went

729
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:51.159
up once slow and then back down through and I thought,

730
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.360
we thought that was a little odd. And then so

731
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.480
later on that night, I had a voice recorder going,

732
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:03.679
I can't and you know, I look back and you

733
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.039
know how you think you wish you would have done

734
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:11.880
things differently. Now, this voice recorder was set on sensitivity mode.

735
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.440
So anyway, it was going.

736
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.000
And all of a sudden, my dad here's at first

737
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.880
He's like, do you hear that? And I'm like, it

738
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.440
was a really sharp pitched scream and it was like

739
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.119
up over that mountain, somewhere on top or just on

740
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:34.960
the other side, but it was it was long, like

741
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.119
it would start low, go up, and then it would

742
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.840
drop down. So, I mean, the closest to me would

743
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:44.519
be like the Ohio, how is what it sounded?

744
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:50.079
How it sounded like? Now it went off five times.

745
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:55.159
We were like, that sounds like very sharp pitched, like

746
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.559
it's either female because we didn't know what.

747
00:43:58.480 --> 00:43:59.039
Else would be.

748
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.679
It was just it was so loud and sharp, and

749
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.360
you know, and I had stopped doing calls for a

750
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.960
little while, but and it just started up like that.

751
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.599
And it was two fifteen in the morning is when

752
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.679
it started. And so it went off five times. We

753
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.000
both agreed it was either female or it sounded like

754
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:24.159
maybe it was teenage, you know, And so we had

755
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.639
a trail cam. After that it went quiet, so we thought, well,

756
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.440
maybe we'll maybe we'll get something, you know, who knows.

757
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.679
So we went ahead and you know, went to bed

758
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.000
and next morning and we all we got was a bird,

759
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.519
you know, flying in and.

760
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:40.079
That was it.

761
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.920
Big. So society will be right back after these messages.

762
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.440
But that was the first time we had well really

763
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.480
the only time I've heard the vocals like that.

764
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:08.400
You know.

765
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:12.960
My recorder did not pick up the sound. It wasn't

766
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.639
close enough for it to pick it up. The other

767
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.079
thing I thought was a little interesting was on the

768
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.960
other side of that mountain, so we went over there.

769
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:26.280
In a different time. This was I think it might

770
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:27.880
have been because of what happened there.

771
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.599
We thought there's a actually there's a trail, a horse

772
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.920
trail that runs up to the middle of that mountain

773
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.400
and you can kind of see it before you head

774
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.400
up from off from the river, and it goes for

775
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.440
I don't remember if it's like eighteen miles.

776
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:45.480
It goes and goes.

777
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:52.679
So I'm wondering if possibly that Bigfoot was along there somewhere, possibly,

778
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.199
you know, But I had never went up that. I've

779
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.119
never been up to that. But we did decide the

780
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.880
next time around that hey, let's go camping on the

781
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.960
other side of this mountain on the Rooster Rocks road

782
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.599
that goes up the Rooster Rock Trail. So we ended

783
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.239
up going. We didn't it wasn't too long. It was

784
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.960
I think we ended up going kind of late fall,

785
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.159
but it was November and so we kind of thought, oh,

786
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.400
there'll be a little bit of snow, so we could,

787
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:24.920
you know, check for tracks like that, you know, And

788
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.000
so we ended up I remember seeing some wildlife, some

789
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:29.800
deer when we went up the road. We decided we

790
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:31.000
kind of went as far as we could go up

791
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:34.519
that road, and then we parked it and camped, and

792
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.159
I know, one of the days my dad was in

793
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:41.360
the gold panting, so we decided, hey, let's you know,

794
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.920
it's be enjoyed camping, you know, doing the doing different

795
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.880
outdoors activities. So we decided, well, we'll go down to

796
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.880
this creek right up here up the road and we'll we'll, we'll,

797
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:55.679
we'll do some goal panting. So we started gold panting

798
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:03.800
and I looked down in the sand and I see

799
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:09.480
this really detailed footprint, and it was a good sized footprint.

800
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.440
The heel, I would say, the heel part was missing,

801
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:17.719
but the rest of it looked almost perfect, and which

802
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:22.000
I don't know if it's my mom actually may have

803
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.679
that somewhere, if she still has the old camera for it.

804
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.440
But I saw this footprint, I took a picture, and

805
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.239
I couldn't believe what we saw. Well, there was leaves down,

806
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.880
and so I started to really check out kind of

807
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.440
the trail that leads down to the creek from the road,

808
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.960
and I could make out a large imprints.

809
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.760
And I made out some small footprints.

810
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.159
So it seemed to me like there was a large

811
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.719
one and a small one that had gone down to

812
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.400
that creek. I would have never seen that, you know,

813
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.559
in the leaves, if it wasn't really paying attention to see,

814
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.159
you know, that that was That was kind of what

815
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.599
we both agreed on. It looked like some big ones

816
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.599
and some smaller footprints, and so that was kind of

817
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.719
cool to see, especially that one in the sand. So

818
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:18.119
the next time I went up there and I tried

819
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.800
to hit it. Really, I went back in August, so

820
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.079
I tried to hit it around the twentieth around that

821
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:29.440
timeframe from before. Those guys that I had we went

822
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.159
to a cabin with that went to our church in

823
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.639
the area. They were kind of optimistic and curious and

824
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.960
open minded enough that they were like, well, you know,

825
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.679
we've seen that finy bigfoot show a little bit. We'd

826
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:45.280
like to check it out. So I take I take them.

827
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.400
I ride up with one of the guys and his

828
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.880
he had a cheap wrangler. We went up their head.

829
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.719
Of the other two guys, they were going to meet

830
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.280
up with us later. So you know, I took them

831
00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:00.519
right up to the spot where we had one come

832
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:05.199
up the tree line and I showed him kind of

833
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.480
like where it happened, and I said, he was, you

834
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.840
know not, I mean he was. He decided just to

835
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:13.960
hang out around the jeep. You know, this was like fine, cool,

836
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.639
And I said, I'm gonna walk down that game trail.

837
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.320
This up ahead and check it out and walk down

838
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.039
their ways and just you know, go down there and

839
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.199
see if I see anything different from before. And so

840
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.119
I walked down there and he's just hanging out. I

841
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.639
think he was a smoker, you know, he was anyway,

842
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.840
he was doing his hanging out by the rig. And

843
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.199
so I come back and you know, probably five ten

844
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.320
minutes back to him, and he goes, well, you're up

845
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:43.239
on the hill. And I said, no, I was down

846
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:46.280
over here, just you know, veered off. I went aways

847
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:48.840
that way, and he goes, you weren't up on the hill.

848
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.320
And because there was some rocks that go up kind

849
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:55.239
of behind the camp and then just up the roads

850
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:57.920
a little bit up on the hill, I kind of thought, well,

851
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.800
let's walk up, walk up the road a little bit,

852
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.559
kind of showed me where it was, and he goes,

853
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.960
I said, do you smell that? And there was a

854
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.840
little bit of a smell that wasn't strong, but it

855
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:11.719
was enough that there was an indication.

856
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:15.320
There was something up there, you know, And so.

857
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:20.840
I decided, well, maybe a'll just kind of start climbing

858
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.079
up there and check it out. So I went up

859
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.480
the hill the rock and I started going halfway up

860
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.960
and then the smell ended going away later on, so

861
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.960
the other guys show up. We actually decided to go down.

862
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.199
There's three spots. There's one the low one we had

863
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.320
went at with the whistle right there was there's one

864
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:41.639
in between these two.

865
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:43.719
It's up on a hill and he got a nice

866
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.760
kind of overview to go down to the valley. We

867
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:48.800
went down to the.

868
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:52.360
Low spot and it was a Saturday night. You know,

869
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.039
it just worked out, you know, that time which for

870
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.119
all of us to go. And so we drove down there.

871
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.960
And the reason, I guess I don't really think about

872
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.000
it because it was nothing happened at all. There's nothing

873
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.440
to talk about really, you know. But they were like, hey,

874
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:11.679
you know what, you know, it's quiet, nothing happened, but

875
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.280
let's come back next weekend. And they're like, yeah, maybe

876
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.639
we'll hit the spot up above in the middle. So

877
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.320
so like, okay, So we met back up at that

878
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.599
middle spot. Now, one of the guys was a pretty

879
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:28.079
big hunter and two of the other guys had guns

880
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.639
with them. One of them had a wounded rabbit and

881
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.199
coyote and all these calls. Well, they started using it

882
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:35.599
at night off in the valley.

883
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.480
We did our calls. So so we had fun, you know,

884
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.280
and just kind of we tried different things.

885
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.760
Well, nothing was really going on. We were sitting down.

886
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.760
We were just all sitting down around where the fire

887
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:54.000
would have been, and we hear this sound and it's

888
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.400
a rocketing landing. It sounded like a rock and a

889
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.519
thump noise landing behind this tree that kind of went

890
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:01.920
down the slope of this hill.

891
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.679
And so we're like, I was like, did did you

892
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:08.239
guys hear that?

893
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.440
And go yeah, something like it was right behind this

894
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.360
tree over here, and so they get up. I get

895
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.280
up and we hear rocks, what sounds like rocks hitting

896
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.400
up on the gravel right by our camp. But the

897
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.320
road goes up, and so me and this other guy

898
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:29.840
we decide, hey, let's throw some more rocks down the hill.

899
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.199
You know, we couldn't see nothing. That was two fifteen

900
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.000
in the morning. One of the guys, which I didn't

901
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:36.440
know he was going to do this and he did,

902
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.079
is he had a handgun right before this happened. I

903
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.360
forgot I should put this in because this is interesting

904
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:44.519
to me. It's like he decides a fire off a

905
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.480
couple of shots, and I'm like, I wouldn't personally just

906
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.519
fire off a couple of shots like that. Anyway, he did,

907
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:58.760
and then shortly after that, within minutes these this sounded

908
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:03.599
like rocks coming in and so we were grabbed rocks

909
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:06.440
throwing them down the hill and then we'd hear more

910
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.840
hitting up on the on the gravel road, and then

911
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.400
we'd toss them more down and then it was just

912
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:17.400
back and forth for probably I would say like six times.

913
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.119
It was we were, you know, having fun with it.

914
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:22.079
Nobody was.

915
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.880
It wasn't anything scary or nothing, you know, but we're like, oh, we're,

916
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:31.559
you know, potentially playing having a game with these bigfoots

917
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.320
on the other side of us. Here's a rock coming in.

918
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.079
We could tell it came from the other side because

919
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.760
on the other side of these guys, a couple of guys. Well,

920
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:43.199
then another rock comes in and lands right between the

921
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.840
one guy that I started throwing rocks with between his

922
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.400
shoes and he's like that rock just landed there, you know,

923
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.719
and it was probably about gulf side, I'd say, rock,

924
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:57.039
you know, landed between and so they were they were

925
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.320
having fun. And one of the guys, you know, I'm

926
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.039
not I haven't had permission for names, so I'm not,

927
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:08.320
you know, but he he is a firefighter. Well he

928
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.239
said he had a tent. So I just decided, you know,

929
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.039
I'll just the other two guys had their vehicles.

930
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.440
One had a Chevy.

931
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.239
Truck and then the other one you know, had his wrangler,

932
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:19.800
so they decided to sleep in their vehicles.

933
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:20.559
And I was like, okay.

934
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:24.480
So anyway, this guy, he being a firefighter, he used

935
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:26.800
to I guess wearing ear plugs and stuff, you know,

936
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:31.039
being away from home. We went to bed, We quieted down.

937
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.000
I guess I it quieted down enough with the rocks

938
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.360
that we decided to go to bed. So everything got

939
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.760
kind of quiet, you know, kept us awake till I

940
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:48.119
would say around three, maybe three thirty somewhere around there

941
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:49.880
before we went to actually went to bed, but I

942
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.360
know it was after three. So anyway, we we were

943
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.800
so I'm leaning in there and I I hear this

944
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:04.360
sound outside and and so so I kind of elbow

945
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:06.960
a little bit and say, hey, hey, do you hear that?

946
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.360
And he's not moving or anything.

947
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.440
It's and I'm thinking, all right, So anyway, I finally

948
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:15.880
wake him up and I'm like you hear that?

949
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:17.679
And he goes what And.

950
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:19.360
It's like you got, he goes, you got your pludged in.

951
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.400
So anyway, I open up the door and I didn't

952
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.559
see anything at all, And but I had left my

953
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:29.800
voice recorder up the road on the gravel, and I

954
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.199
covered it up, and so.

955
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:34.719
I guess fast forward.

956
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.239
Nothing else happened that night, and none of us woke up.

957
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.119
Well the next morning, I go out and I get

958
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:46.079
the recorder up the road and it's I start hearing

959
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:51.559
on the recorder, like I hear what sounds like only

960
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:53.480
I could think of is maybe feet, but it's like

961
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:59.360
a sh like scooting or shifting on the gravel. And

962
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.119
you know, this was on from about i'd say three

963
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.840
point thirty to a quarter to five somewhere around there,

964
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.760
you know that. So it did that a couple of times,

965
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.639
whatever it was, and then you could hear wood hitting wood.

966
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.920
It sounded like somewhere probably down in the forest.

967
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.320
And the next trip up, which the next one it

968
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.320
sounds out trip for me is I decide, you know,

969
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.599
I decide by myself, which I kind of regretted this,

970
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:33.239
but I decided to go up and I'm going to

971
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.320
spend the night up in that spot. And this was

972
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.280
the same time of year August, so i'd say this

973
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.760
was twenty twelve. I know it was shortly after so

974
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.320
like that summer, let me think it was definitely there

975
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.440
in that same time period. It was August around the twentieth,

976
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:52.599
and I go up. So I go up to this

977
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:58.039
area again. And I actually decided to go up by myself.

978
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.360
I had I had bought in a jeep, brain a

979
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.920
new one, and and I just was anty to get

980
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:05.320
up there. So I went up there and I brought

981
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.320
I actually brought a shotgun with me, and I'm like, Okay,

982
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:12.199
I'm just gonna go up here and see what happens.

983
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.400
So I get situated and I'm not really even set up.

984
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:19.039
I think I just kind of, you know, it's antie

985
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.280
to get up there. I really didn't set up very well,

986
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:27.639
and I just planned on actually just sleeping in in

987
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:32.719
the vehicle. So I pull in, you know, and just park.

988
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:38.400
I get out listen, and it's getting around dusk, and

989
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.960
it just it's just after dark. And so I would

990
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:51.480
say around ten, and I hear something on one side

991
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:55.039
of the camp. It's actually the upper side of the camp,

992
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.440
not the one that veers down the hill, and I

993
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:04.440
hear something running through the forest and it's doing these

994
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:09.480
deep snorts, and it's running and it would turn around,

995
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.000
it would run through back through the forest, and it

996
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.039
would turn at the end and run back through again,

997
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:22.159
and it kept snorting, and I got pretty scared, and

998
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.840
so I decided, you know what, this is what I wanted.

999
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.559
But I just thought, you know what, I've had enough.

1000
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:29.719
I was like, this is too much.

1001
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:33.280
I mean this for me, It's like the sound of it.

1002
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:37.480
It sounded aggressive, it sounded loud to snorting, and the

1003
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.320
way it kept running back to the forest, and I'm thinking,

1004
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:44.440
what is this exactly? And I didn't know what it was,

1005
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:48.320
but I knew it was bigger than a deer, and

1006
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:52.719
the way it was doing that, so I started to yell. Well,

1007
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:56.679
it didn't phase it at all. It kept on running

1008
00:58:56.760 --> 00:59:00.960
and snorting, so it wasn't leaving. Well, so I had

1009
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:06.440
that I had that shotgun in my hands and and

1010
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:11.199
I I remember getting really scared and I just thought

1011
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:16.679
to myself, this thing's not leaving. And I saw some

1012
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.840
people about three miles down in the lake, and I

1013
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:23.239
was up there all by myself, and there's no phone service,

1014
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.280
so I'm thinking, I don't know if I should have done.

1015
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.599
I knew, I mean I didn't. I knew. I had

1016
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.280
let you know, others know where I was going to be.

1017
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:36.599
So it wasn't like I went up there and didn't.

1018
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:42.840
See anything, but I I felt like okay, And I

1019
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.599
had my recorder going actually, and it picked up everything,

1020
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.280
you know, the sounds running that, the snorting. You picked

1021
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.679
up the snorting, and so I decided, I'm jumping in

1022
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:53.440
my deep.

1023
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:57.079
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1024
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:16.360
So I get it into my jeep and I turned

1025
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.679
it on and I decide to turn it around because

1026
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.320
I had the opposite way of getting out of there,

1027
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.400
and so I had to turn it around. And I'm

1028
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:33.880
sitting in there and I could still hear it doing

1029
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:38.280
his thing, and then I just tried to calm down,

1030
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.760
calm down. And then I waited about ten minutes, shut

1031
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:47.400
the engine down, and it was quiet, and I'm like, okay,

1032
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:49.440
you're okay, nothing's happened.

1033
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:50.800
You're good.

1034
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:54.519
And then I decided to go ahead and kick back

1035
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:58.960
my seat and just stay the night like I wanted

1036
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:04.400
to do. But I kind of felt like, you know,

1037
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:06.880
if that was one there, it didn't want me there.

1038
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.679
That's what I felt like but and I don't know

1039
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:14.639
if it was because I was by myself and because

1040
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:18.519
you know, I've heard if you're by yourself, things could

1041
01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:23.159
more likely be maybe a little bit more aggressive at times.

1042
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.039
So I don't know, but I just I ended up staying,

1043
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.840
didn't see anything, but I definitely whatever it was, it

1044
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:36.079
was making its presence there. Those guys I took up

1045
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:41.039
there too, they they were they were pretty much leaning

1046
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:44.119
towards that. They thought that that's what was happening, that

1047
01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:48.119
there was big foots around us. But we never heard anything.

1048
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:53.280
We never heard any movement, which is so to me

1049
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:58.320
interesting how these things can be as big as it

1050
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.880
can be and you can't you can't hear them moving

1051
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.880
around or anything. And so.

1052
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.599
Okay, so the next the next thing.

1053
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:13.440
I wanted to talk about was my amazing wife, Rancy,

1054
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:18.159
which she goes we actually have a blended family and

1055
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:22.039
just it's great, you know. Anyway, So we ended up

1056
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:26.800
we both love to go outdoors, hiking, camping, doing all

1057
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.599
that kinds of stuff, and so a couple summers ago

1058
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.920
we actually did some research and we were wanting to

1059
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:38.119
find a new place to go camping, and so I

1060
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:42.239
had found that they had a recent sighting online actually

1061
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:48.760
over in love and Worth Watchington area, and so the

1062
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.840
person kind of described about where it was, and so

1063
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:53.800
it was like, hey, you know, we're wanting to do

1064
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:56.960
a camping trip. So we ended up driving over there

1065
01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:01.320
and we actually only had one night, which I wish

1066
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:04.119
we would have had more, but so we ended up

1067
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:10.159
driving there and getting there about it was after two pm,

1068
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:13.360
I think around the twenty third of August twenty twenty two.

1069
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.320
There was that recent sighting. So we decided there was

1070
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:19.280
a lake right near the town. Well, we ended up

1071
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.199
going on this. It was blm Land or something. There

1072
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.760
was an area where you could camp, you know, just

1073
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.280
pick us bought and camp across from the lake across

1074
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.960
this road. So we went in there and we found

1075
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:34.639
a spot and so we just set up our chairs

1076
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.920
and so we were just kind of hanging out and

1077
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.639
we didn't set up anything yet and I and I

1078
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:47.159
hear a noise down in the trees kind of downward

1079
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:51.519
from where we're at, and so I'm like, what was that?

1080
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:55.559
And so I decided to go ahead and take some pictures.

1081
01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.760
And as soon as I took a series of pictures

1082
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:04.039
out there along that area, I looked, and right away

1083
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.519
I'm like, tell my wife, I'm like, what is that?

1084
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:13.599
And so she saw what I saw.

1085
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:15.519
So I actually.

1086
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.960
Panned across with my video, which it was a little

1087
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.079
distance out, you know, so I wish it would have

1088
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:25.159
been better than it looks, but I could tell there

1089
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:26.639
was a figure and you could see it when I

1090
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.159
panned across with the video too. That was still standing

1091
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.159
out there, and I couldn't see it with the naked eye,

1092
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:37.320
but I could see it with the camera. I was like, well,

1093
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:42.239
I see something there. So we got that and I

1094
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.800
thought it was interesting. So and then, like I said,

1095
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.920
it was no longer there, and so we were like, okay, cool,

1096
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.639
this is this is exciting. So it's like we just

1097
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:55.480
got here and maybe saw something. So we go ahead

1098
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:57.599
and set up our camp, and then we go for

1099
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.440
a walk and down on some of the roads, the

1100
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.840
gravel roads, and my wife had pointed out some it

1101
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.159
looked like maybe bare footprints on the edge of the

1102
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:10.679
road that had once had water, you know in it.

1103
01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:14.320
So they looked a little bit not recent, but it

1104
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.159
looked like potentially could be feet, you know. And so

1105
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:22.000
we kind of roam around and come back to camp

1106
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:27.559
later on that evening, we had went to bed. So

1107
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:29.280
we had a tent where you can have the whole

1108
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:31.159
top open, you know, so we wanted to be able

1109
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:32.199
to see everything.

1110
01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:36.039
And so we're laying in there.

1111
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.320
And it's I would say between ten thirty and eleven,

1112
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:43.719
and we did have I thought was interesting was we

1113
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:48.079
started hearing like a tree trunk in front of like

1114
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.480
towards our feet, the tree, one of the trees. You

1115
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:55.840
could hear this scratching. It was this long sh coming

1116
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:59.679
down the trees, the tree there. And then on the

1117
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:03.239
opposite side of our heads we heard the same thing.

1118
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:07.639
It sounded like something scratching down a tree trunk at

1119
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:11.239
the same time, you know, going and I decide, okay,

1120
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:17.079
that's that's not normal, you know. So so we're laying

1121
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.719
there and and but I could make out there was

1122
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.440
something else. It sounded like there was something else on

1123
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.159
the right side of us too. It just wasn't making

1124
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:34.920
much sound. And so that was interesting kind of a night.

1125
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.280
I took my wife up one night to that old

1126
01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:40.960
camping spot where those rocks were thrown and and she,

1127
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.320
I'm telling you, was a complete non believer. And but

1128
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.159
she's like to me, it was like the unicorns, you know,

1129
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:53.440
like no such thing. She didn't even say a believer.

1130
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.840
She's a noher now, I mean, And I know when

1131
01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:59.039
I took her up there, she woke up one night

1132
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:02.519
up at that old camp spot, and she said she

1133
01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:07.559
felt strongly like something or somebody was watching her, you know,

1134
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:09.679
in the night, but.

1135
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:10.719
Didn't never see anything.

1136
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:15.519
She's completely believes, you know, what happened to me and

1137
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:17.280
some of these things that I've told her in the

1138
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:21.480
past that have happened, and and then what happened with us,

1139
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:25.400
And I know that it just seems like it's very

1140
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.199
difficult to have a visual you know. But I do

1141
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:32.159
know that a lot of things once you I feel

1142
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.760
like get more educated on the subject on what's going on,

1143
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.559
you know, a lot of that's going on around out there,

1144
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.679
that you kind of can put things together more. And

1145
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:45.719
so that trip eleven worth, you know, I wish I'd

1146
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:48.679
like to haven't been back since, but I wouldn't mind

1147
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:51.840
going back and like trying to find those trees and

1148
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:54.280
seeing if I could see any marks, you know, up

1149
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:58.280
and down those trees. But for there being a recent sighting,

1150
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:01.039
you know, i'd say two to three months prior to that.

1151
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:03.559
You know, I thought it might be a spot to

1152
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:06.960
check out my dad. You know, as far as my dad,

1153
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:12.199
you know, he was not a complete believer, but I

1154
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.480
know he is a believer now or he's in nowhere

1155
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:15.960
actually because of what's happened.

1156
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:18.479
But before that, but I know, he told.

1157
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.159
Me when he was in his twenties, he went hunting

1158
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:26.640
and he said that he just got this awful, awful

1159
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.520
smell and feeling like he's being washed. He never saw anything,

1160
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:35.560
but he knew something wasn't right, you know, that feeling.

1161
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.880
And so I think that he looks back and he realizes, Okay,

1162
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:43.920
that's probably what was going on. And that was up

1163
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.800
up in it's Edonville, Washington, so it's it's close to

1164
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:53.119
Mount Rainier. And then I've got kind of family around Morton, LB. Area,

1165
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:58.039
which is all kind of around that that west.

1166
01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:59.359
You know, side of the from the mountain.

1167
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:04.520
My boy, well, there was three at the time, and

1168
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:09.239
I know one time and just recently my eighteen year

1169
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.720
old and seventeen year old talked to me separately about this,

1170
01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:15.760
but they had told me this at the time. So

1171
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:21.439
when they were kids, they saw they think one and

1172
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:27.399
it was behind their great grandparents' house, which was just

1173
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.640
out of a Silverton, Oregon. Now, they were playing in

1174
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:33.800
the backyard, and I actually talked to one of them

1175
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:35.920
tonight about it, and then last night the other one.

1176
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:39.640
So they both, you know, maybe they had a little

1177
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:43.640
different perspective, but they were young, and for them to

1178
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.000
bring it up to me recently over these years and

1179
01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:49.520
tell me that they all got scared because at the

1180
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:51.279
time they told me about it, and I just kind

1181
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:53.159
of thought, you know, the kids were out playing, they

1182
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:56.359
were playing with their cousins. They probably just think they

1183
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.880
saw something in the trees. Well, they told me that

1184
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:02.560
they saw this bury like a basketball player, you know,

1185
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:06.439
tall harry, like part of a body, and one of

1186
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:09.199
them said he saw the shoulder area, but it was

1187
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:14.840
the one described it as it being like grizzly like

1188
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.479
I would have to say, like a darker brown, and

1189
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:19.960
the other one said more of a dark color. But

1190
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:23.359
they both described that they had seen this thing and

1191
01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:25.800
they couldn't I don't think they got a good look

1192
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:27.560
at the face, but they said it was like just

1193
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:32.399
around a tree, and so they all kind of were

1194
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:36.119
I don't remember how many of their cousins, but my

1195
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.640
oldest is he didn't see it. They said that they

1196
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.439
both seen this thing, and they all took off running

1197
01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.960
and ran in the house. And I remember them coming

1198
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.399
in the house and saying they had seen something. But

1199
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:49.960
I just, you know, I didn't don't really think much

1200
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.279
of it. But for me, for them telling me now

1201
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:55.479
about it all these years later, when they were probably

1202
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.279
like they're pretty close in age, you know, so five

1203
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.520
six seven and a half to say right around there,

1204
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:04.840
that telling me this that.

1205
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:08.359
I think that they must have seen something, you know.

1206
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:13.960
And and anyway, so that happened there, and it was

1207
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:16.840
and it was it's kind of the edge of the

1208
01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:20.880
Cascade Range. Also, they lived up in the hills out

1209
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.560
of Silverton. So there's actually a little town that's the

1210
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:26.439
closest to it.

1211
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:27.560
It's Scott's Mills.

1212
01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:30.920
And and then there's a road that goes up a

1213
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:35.079
ways called you know, nobody lives up there family anymore,

1214
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:38.279
but it's called Crooked Figure Road, and it goes up

1215
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:43.600
along this river. And anyway, it was up there, and

1216
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:48.399
so it was it's a ways out and but yeah,

1217
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:54.039
so that happened with them. But and so especially those

1218
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:57.319
two boys are pretty believers, you know, with you know,

1219
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:01.079
at least. I think they tend to believe pretty much everything,

1220
01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:04.720
especially after what they know. They saw something themselves, but

1221
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.319
so that happened to them, and that was that had

1222
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:14.199
to have been, like I would say, I mean, their

1223
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:15.920
youngest brother might have been around.

1224
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.840
So it may have been maybe two thousand.

1225
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:25.920
Ten to twelve somewhere around there, maybe twelve somewhere right

1226
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.840
around that time, twenty twelve. But it was probably summer,

1227
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.760
I'm thinking, but I don't remember exactly when being outside

1228
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:34.800
and playing and stuff.

1229
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:37.479
But because there is a little altitude up.

1230
01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:41.000
There, I think it's probably about twenty five hundred feet

1231
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.119
elevation up there, and about the same where I was

1232
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:49.199
living too, up in Colton as a kid. And you know,

1233
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.119
I did hear a couple of things that were interesting

1234
01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:54.279
up there where I lived when I was a kid,

1235
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:57.680
Like I heard that there was a full size horse

1236
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.960
that was killed in a field, probably about a mile

1237
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.479
down from our house. And I heard maybe a cougar.

1238
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:07.039
But I'm like, you know, I don't know, but you know,

1239
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:10.079
here I was a teenager, early teen at the most,

1240
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.600
but I heard about that. But I do know when

1241
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:17.279
I looked up on the BFRs, there was some bowhunters

1242
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.399
up there that had some encounters up on Goat Mountain

1243
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:25.840
that was around you know, the mid nineties is when

1244
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:28.720
when that's when those reports were in.

1245
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:32.840
Now. The only other thing I could think.

1246
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.119
Of was, I know one night I was with my

1247
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:39.119
mom and we were heading home and we were about

1248
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:43.039
to i'd say half a mile just passed where that

1249
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:46.359
horse field was actually just kind of dips down and

1250
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:48.880
there's a big hill that goes up well you dip down,

1251
01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:51.560
and we were actually looking for a couple of my

1252
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:54.359
uncles were they were fern picking actually at the time,

1253
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.439
and it was around dusk, and we go to hit

1254
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:01.920
this hill and there's like a fence and there's a

1255
01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:05.199
light pole, and we go up the hill and we

1256
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:07.439
get up to the house and my mom, I was

1257
01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:10.319
with her, you know, in a passenger seat, so she's like,

1258
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:15.399
you know, I saw someone, but it looked I don't think.

1259
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:17.720
I just had a feeling not to go back like

1260
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.600
looking for them. And she said, but it was where

1261
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:24.359
it was standing, had to been like super tall where

1262
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.319
it was standing by that pole. So she may have

1263
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:31.479
seen one that night, but I didn't see anything, you know,

1264
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:35.520
But she did mention that after when we got back.

1265
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.319
I had talked to well me see a couple of

1266
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:43.239
different times and on the phone to Cliff Berrickman, and

1267
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:47.279
you know, I actually met him in a conference over

1268
01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:50.800
in Kennewick. But I had talked to him and he

1269
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:53.720
told me that the cook I was talking about. He

1270
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:56.479
knew who the guy was, that there was the cook

1271
01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:59.319
at my grade school. And he said he actually and

1272
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:04.039
back then in the mid nineties, he said that. And

1273
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.000
I remember this because the guy said it was he

1274
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.640
said he had twenty two encounters and that was back

1275
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:10.000
in the mid nineties.

1276
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:13.399
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

1277
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:32.399
And so Cliff knew about this guy and he said,

1278
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:36.000
you know, so you know, it was about gosh, probably

1279
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:37.600
five years ago, no longer than that.

1280
01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:40.039
Actually, when I had talked to him in person about him.

1281
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:42.720
Anyway, he said he wanted to talk to the guy,

1282
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.399
you know, while he's still around and get his get

1283
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:47.560
an interview from him. And here's some of his encounters.

1284
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.960
And I don't know if he ever did, but I

1285
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:52.439
told him. I was like, you know, because I, you know,

1286
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:54.159
told him where I was at, and you know, he

1287
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:57.439
put it together and the other guy was saying Cliff too,

1288
01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:00.720
that was with him. They investigated with this other guy.

1289
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:03.680
But but Cliff wanted to talk to him and get

1290
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:07.760
some of his encounters. But the other guy, now, he

1291
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:14.039
had one encounter, and surprise my stepdad was he actually

1292
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:18.159
was a little open to his story because he had

1293
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.039
he lived in Estakada, and he said he was camping

1294
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:23.640
in a group and they had all these tents and

1295
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:28.279
he said in the middle of the night that their

1296
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:33.079
tents were lifted and tossed with them in them, and

1297
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:36.279
they said they got they were spooped, you know, to death.

1298
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.560
They got out the next morning and there was muddy,

1299
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:43.920
big footprints around their camp. So that's kind of his

1300
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:48.319
you know, basically his story of why he became into

1301
01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:51.359
what he was doing. But but yeah, and he was

1302
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:52.920
a pretty easygoing guy.

1303
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.319
But so I think it was easier for that guy

1304
01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.039
for my stepdad to listen to him.

1305
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:01.800
But the other guy is like, well some encounters, you know,

1306
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:05.680
but who knows, I don't know. But yeah, So anyway,

1307
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.119
so I knew that there was things going on, but

1308
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:13.199
I didn't really see anything as a kid.

1309
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.640
And obviously my brother and I we were never harmed.

1310
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.119
If they were around but when you looked later on

1311
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:23.359
in life and put things together kind of realize that

1312
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:27.119
to me, it was more than likely that they were

1313
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:29.000
coming around in a property.

1314
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:30.520
And I know my.

1315
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.000
Uncle, one of the guys, the ones that Fern picked,

1316
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.880
he was living down in the trailer that was down

1317
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.439
at the bottom of our property. And he said he remembered,

1318
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.119
you know, because he was he had seen when he said, right,

1319
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:47.479
it was over west in Oregon there and anyway, he

1320
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:50.439
said that he didn't know what it was, but he

1321
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.319
said he'd hear the morning hours, still dark, he would

1322
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.239
hear a bird going off, and he just thought it

1323
01:17:57.359 --> 01:17:58.760
was not a bird, you know.

1324
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.000
Maybe he just I don't know.

1325
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:04.399
If he thought it was off, you know, but he

1326
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:06.119
just didn't add it up to being a bird and

1327
01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:08.560
being still dark in the morning. But I know we

1328
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:12.119
had a lot of coyotes as a kid in the

1329
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.239
back of our property pretty frequently at night.

1330
01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:15.520
You know.

1331
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:18.319
The only other thing I thought, which it could be

1332
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.680
the coyotes itself. It is like when we first moved

1333
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:23.960
up there, right away we took over. I think it

1334
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.039
was like an owner of contract you know, for the place.

1335
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:30.079
And anyway, the people that lived there had chickens and

1336
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:33.119
a rooster and they didn't have bens in or nothing.

1337
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:38.680
And within i'd say two to three weeks, they were

1338
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:42.680
just disappearing one after another. And the last one to

1339
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:46.479
go was the rooster. You know, he was around and

1340
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.399
then he didn't make it. So I don't know if

1341
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:52.880
it was the coyotes or what, you know, but they

1342
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:56.520
disappeared and it wasn't you know, just gradually disappeared over

1343
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:57.359
i'd say two.

1344
01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:00.399
Or three weeks, you know time. So that was kind

1345
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:01.039
of interesting.

1346
01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:06.000
But but yeah, the other thing I thought was I

1347
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:07.960
wanted to bring up because I thought it was interesting.

1348
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.520
Okay, So we had a neighbor that was, you know,

1349
01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:15.520
he wasn't.

1350
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.239
The best neighbor. Let's put that way on a couple

1351
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:21.039
actually really, but one of them at least my stepdad

1352
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:25.760
didn't get along with and very well. But one night

1353
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:30.000
we had a freezer on our porch and it was open,

1354
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.920
you know, anybody could access right well, he's my stepdad

1355
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.039
says that the neighbors robbed us.

1356
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:38.439
That I don't know.

1357
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:42.359
I'm picturing him seeing somebody running down the road with

1358
01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:49.640
some food, and later on I'm thinking to myself in nighttime,

1359
01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:52.039
did he get a really good, you know view of

1360
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:55.439
this guy or who he thought it was, or was

1361
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:58.840
it something else, you know that came in and helped

1362
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:03.159
himself and the freezer. So I thought that was a

1363
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.119
little interesting because you know, it's just who I don't

1364
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:08.479
know for sure, but I just find it odd. Why

1365
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:12.399
would the neighbor come over and I don't know, grab

1366
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:13.359
food out of the freezer.

1367
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:15.159
But so that happened.

1368
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.319
There's trying to think of anything else that happened up

1369
01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:20.119
there on our property. The only other thing I could

1370
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.239
think of, and this is, if anything, this is kind

1371
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.439
of embarrassing put it this way, but I'll see it

1372
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:27.560
in an easy going away.

1373
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:29.279
We had a well issue. We had.

1374
01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:31.520
We had a hand dug well and it was eighty

1375
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:34.920
foot doug right, so the end of the summer, by September,

1376
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:36.359
it would pretty much be empty.

1377
01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:39.279
It just didn't have enough water to last us. So

1378
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:41.560
we end up putting a new well in well.

1379
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.880
Why we were doing that, we had no facilities. So

1380
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:49.800
here I decided I got to go to the bathrooms.

1381
01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:53.560
I decided to go over to the dark forest and

1382
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.920
get away. You know, have some privacy, So I'd go

1383
01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.800
over there, and it's around dusk. I mean, isn't great,

1384
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:04.439
you know, really, but you have to go right anyway.

1385
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.319
So I go over there.

1386
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:12.640
And and I'm, you know, waiting, and all of a sudden,

1387
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:19.399
I hear all these all this footsteps running and coming

1388
01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:23.239
up from down the slope in this forest. And I

1389
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:26.800
don't know if it's elk running you're running or what,

1390
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:30.920
but I hear all this ruckuses running up the hill multiple,

1391
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.199
you know, like i'd say, a whole group or whatever,

1392
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:37.000
and it's running well, and I got this this feeling

1393
01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:40.520
inside like you have to go now, you know, just

1394
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:44.119
as instinct. I have to get out of here, you know.

1395
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:49.239
So I go up and then I just start be

1396
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:53.439
lighting it through as fast as I could, through the

1397
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:57.239
adge of that forest back onto our property. And but

1398
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:00.960
I just I don't know what it was or and

1399
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:03.479
I thought later on like maybe it could have been.

1400
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:06.920
This is my feelings later on life, that maybe it

1401
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:12.039
was deer out possibly, but they were running at high speed,

1402
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:16.039
so a group of them, and it could have been chased, is.

1403
01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.840
What I was leaning towards. Maybe was going on. But

1404
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:19.359
I don't know.

1405
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:22.399
All I knew is you know, you got that that

1406
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:25.520
flight kicked in and I just I just being lined

1407
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.000
out of that forest, and you know, I remember getting

1408
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:29.159
scraped up, but I didn't care.

1409
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:30.439
I just had to get out of there, you know,

1410
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:33.920
as quick as I could. And so I didn't. I

1411
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:35.399
ain't go over there after that.

1412
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:38.279
But but yeah, so that I think was the last

1413
01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:41.960
thing I remember happening at the house there. So after

1414
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:44.840
I had talked to Cliff one of the times, right,

1415
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:50.960
I I ended up my co worker that I worked with.

1416
01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:58.039
I worked with him for about four over fourteen years

1417
01:22:58.079 --> 01:22:59.720
I worked with him. He knew I was in the

1418
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.920
big a little bit, so he you know, we would

1419
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:04.359
talk off and on. Well, he tells me about a

1420
01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:08.239
little bit of his hunting trips, and so he would

1421
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:10.560
go up the Malala River area. He would go up

1422
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.960
between Coltonham and Estacada. Well, he goes up and he

1423
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.560
tells me, I found this footprint and I got the creeps.

1424
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:22.560
And he's a pretty big guy.

1425
01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:25.479
He's like six ' three i'd say two eighty, you know,

1426
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:28.600
and and he he got the creeps when he saw

1427
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:32.520
this track and it was going through this muddy. I

1428
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:34.680
don't know if it's a muddy like game trail, but

1429
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:37.760
it was going across it when he took that footprint.

1430
01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:41.600
So he tells me he gets a holy Cliff, And

1431
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:43.640
Cliff was like, this is great.

1432
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:46.960
He goes, this is this is like a perfect you know.

1433
01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:51.039
To him, it was like he was describing the mud,

1434
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.279
kind of the lighter mud towards the middle of it.

1435
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.159
He said, it's like flung back. It's like the way

1436
01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:57.000
the foot moves.

1437
01:23:57.239 --> 01:23:57.600
Anyway.

1438
01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:00.600
He described it like this is very very very likely

1439
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:04.880
a real footprint. So I talked to my uncle and

1440
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:09.039
I'd say, hey, and this was by the way in reference.

1441
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:15.399
This was twenty seventeen, is when my coworker, and it

1442
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:19.079
was November fifth, so when he was up there. So

1443
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:23.720
a week later next weekend, I go up and with

1444
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:31.520
my uncle and we ended up finding this trackway and

1445
01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:33.560
it's going into the forest and it's right in that

1446
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.119
area where he told me. I never found it the

1447
01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:41.880
exact footprint, but I put my boot, which on nine

1448
01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:45.840
and a half size boots, and you can see on

1449
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.560
the one by the log anyway it looks. What was

1450
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:54.680
cool was I found a track going into the forest

1451
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:57.960
and I measured kind of on this hill mound and

1452
01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.560
then it was kind of a tree testing a and

1453
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:03.079
and they had the gate open. Happened to have the

1454
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:06.239
gate open, so we went in. But there was some

1455
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:09.239
fresh sawdust over the ground too when I walked into

1456
01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:14.039
the forest, so it looked like these tracks went right

1457
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:17.399
over the sawdust, like right after whatever they were done doing.

1458
01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:22.279
And and so we found this trackway because my Michael goes, hey,

1459
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:23.359
you guys, just you gotta see this.

1460
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:25.159
So we were following it.

1461
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:29.399
I couldn't jump to each track, you know, and I

1462
01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:31.079
could we could make it out for a little ways

1463
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:34.760
going down, and one of it like broke out the

1464
01:25:34.840 --> 01:25:36.800
whole tree that was down, you know, like I hit

1465
01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.840
right in the middle. But so I thought that was

1466
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:42.039
a good find, and it was interesting one I remember

1467
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:46.479
when I measured this, this measurement on this track come

1468
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:51.600
out to be the same size as my coworker track

1469
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:55.880
he found. So it was the same links. I believe thirteen.

1470
01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:56.520
Inch you know that.

1471
01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:59.840
That. My coworker did tell me he had heard screams

1472
01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:02.159
of there off from a little ways, but he could

1473
01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:05.079
hear screams, and he said one of the trips up there,

1474
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.720
he said that he found a deer and he had

1475
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:13.199
he had two boys pretty close to my boys ages

1476
01:26:13.239 --> 01:26:15.359
and he would take them up hunting with them and stuff,

1477
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:18.119
but you know, scouting and stuff. But he had found

1478
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:21.680
up this road veering off from them Allala River. He

1479
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.680
had found it was like ripped apart, he said, and

1480
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:28.159
he just kind of got this feeling like this is

1481
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:30.640
not normal. You know, we need to get out of here.

1482
01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:34.279
So they laughed, and so he told me about that.

1483
01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:38.279
But you know, I just wanted to clarify too, which

1484
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:42.319
is no biggie at all, but that county right there,

1485
01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:48.560
Malala Coleton, that whole areas to get is Clackamus County

1486
01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:54.279
and Clackamas County is has had a lot.

1487
01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:55.840
Of sightings probably.

1488
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:57.640
I think that as far as I know, the most

1489
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:01.920
sightings online is in Clackamus, which you know goes all

1490
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.000
the way out to Mount Hood, you know, and I

1491
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:06.960
think that's what over a million acres Monter National Force.

1492
01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.600
But so it's a big area. But yeah, there's there's

1493
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:11.800
been a lot of sightings. I know there was a

1494
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:16.239
guy I worked with, another guy he actually hunted. He

1495
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:19.680
was hunting grouse and he told me about this and

1496
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:22.760
he was going up by it was Estakida and I

1497
01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:25.079
think he said it was I remember, right, it was

1498
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:29.000
the Roar River, Royane River, and he said it was

1499
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.760
about five pm. I don't remember exact dates on this,

1500
01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:38.680
it was probably I would say, let me see, say

1501
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:46.079
two thousand eleven, twenty ten, anyway somewhere around there. And

1502
01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:50.000
he said he went up the hill and he heard this,

1503
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:56.600
he said, woman, so like a woman screaming and down

1504
01:27:56.920 --> 01:28:01.000
towards this river, and you know, it was still completely

1505
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:10.279
light and everything. But he said it sounded like, you know,

1506
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:14.439
like I mean, somebody with maybe downs and just how

1507
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:17.279
it sounded, you know, like it didn't sound right. It's

1508
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.720
so like a woman's screaming, but it sounded a little

1509
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:23.239
bit off, you know, kind of like but it scared

1510
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:26.520
him enough that he took off and decided to forget hunting.

1511
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:29.520
I think he was hunting, yeah, grouse and left. But

1512
01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:34.399
he told me about that, and so I never went

1513
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:37.239
up into that area. But yeah, he he is, and

1514
01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:40.760
he's kind of a guy. That's he was, you know,

1515
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.680
I think around sixty and he seemed like a pretty

1516
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.560
tough individual person and I thought for him to get

1517
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:53.359
rattled that yeah. So I think that's that's about all

1518
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:56.760
I can think of Jeremiah that stands out.

1519
01:28:56.680 --> 01:29:01.800
Well that's absolutely incredible. I mean we had talked before

1520
01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:05.199
the interview, and I remember you saying, yeah, I got

1521
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:07.720
some I got some other stuff besides the tent thing.

1522
01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:10.920
I was like, all right, and man, you had some

1523
01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:13.600
other stuff. So I do have a few comments, you know,

1524
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.199
like you mentioned the Goat Mountain, Oregon area, Like that

1525
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:20.319
area is known for a ton of activity over the years.

1526
01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:23.279
I mean you can look it up on even like

1527
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.399
I don't know if you've been to Oregon. Bigfoot dot

1528
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:28.760
com is still up and running at the time of

1529
01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:31.800
this recording. There's a lot of reports on there and

1530
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:33.800
then on b F R O. And I've talked to

1531
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:38.359
an individual who had some pretty interesting stuff happened in

1532
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:43.000
the Silverton area. So that's a pretty that's a pretty

1533
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:47.279
interesting area. Too big for society. Will be right back

1534
01:29:47.319 --> 01:30:07.239
after these messages in the Malala that Malala River area.

1535
01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:10.279
I don't know, did you have you heard the interview

1536
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.600
I did with the gentleman about what happened to him

1537
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.880
in that area. This is like episode five eighty. The

1538
01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:20.560
individual named ed you would if you haven't, you really

1539
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:22.960
find that interesting. You probably have to.

1540
01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:27.279
I just found you more recently, but I did listen

1541
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:31.560
to one where he's got the rabbit in the cage.

1542
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:35.199
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he gets chased by the

1543
01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:37.800
big foot in the middle of the campsite totally.

1544
01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:40.520
Yeah, yes, And that's right up there.

1545
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:43.760
And you know, when I talked to the cliff too,

1546
01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:45.479
he told me the first time I talked to him

1547
01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:48.039
at that conference, he told me back in the nineties,

1548
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:50.399
there was some homeless people living up there and they

1549
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:55.159
would see me these large dark figures you know, around

1550
01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:59.399
and yeah, so yeah, that's it's kind of like I

1551
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.319
didn't really lies living there for so many years around

1552
01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:07.359
the area. What's a hot area it was for these things,

1553
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:10.399
you know. And and then you know, not knowing too

1554
01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:13.399
when I was a kid about really what was going

1555
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:16.680
on up there on at the that Colton house on

1556
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:19.680
Goat Mountain where I was living. And but it kind

1557
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:22.880
of made sense, especially when my mom said I thought

1558
01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:25.560
was interesting, was well, like, well, your stepdad was gone

1559
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.439
those nights when activity things would happen, and it's like

1560
01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:32.680
so it knew or they knew whatever, most likely that

1561
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:36.119
the male alpha was gone, you know.

1562
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:42.359
So interesting, so the individual and I was going to

1563
01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:45.399
I was going to ask this anyways, the two gentlemen

1564
01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:48.960
that were bigfoot researchers. You mentioned one of the names

1565
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:52.520
was Cliff, not Cliff Barrick, different Cliff who was the

1566
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:53.640
guy who was the.

1567
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:58.359
You know, I can't. I don't remember his name right off.

1568
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:01.720
I don't. I don't know. And I know the guy,

1569
01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:02.960
the Cliff, the other Cliff.

1570
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:05.239
He's actually wrote a book and you probably even have

1571
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:14.560
heard of the guy, and I don't. I don't even know, Yes, Cliff.

1572
01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:18.680
Who was the one? But you know that.

1573
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:21.880
I mean I probably didn't say it great his story,

1574
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:26.000
but but basically what happened what I remember him saying it,

1575
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.800
you know, but so was him and then this guy,

1576
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:32.840
which you know he was, He was, like I said,

1577
01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:35.319
for a cook for years. And and then you know,

1578
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:37.640
the other Cliff. He knew who the guy was and

1579
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:39.520
he wanted to talk to him. So I don't know

1580
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.920
if he ever got to. But but yeah, I don't

1581
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:46.199
know any of his He just you know, said he

1582
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:48.319
had seen him. I know one of the trips up there,

1583
01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:52.479
my stepdad was cutting wood and you know, sawing some

1584
01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:55.840
some logs and stuff, and he's like he's like, well

1585
01:32:56.359 --> 01:32:59.239
he goes you know, have you heard anything or you know,

1586
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:02.000
I remember exactly what he said, but basically he goes, oh,

1587
01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:04.560
you know, I don't think they'd be around here for

1588
01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:07.439
at all, because I'm you know, making all this noise

1589
01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:10.680
and cutting and they're like, oh, you know, they could

1590
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:12.680
be up in the trees watching you.

1591
01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:14.079
You know. He's kind of laughing it.

1592
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:19.520
Off and so but it's just like, you know, it's

1593
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:23.880
kind of a bug me a little bit because knowing

1594
01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:27.720
what I saw, you know, and then knowing that things

1595
01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:30.720
were going on around it, he had no idea, you

1596
01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:34.279
know that, but he did halfway, like I said, believe

1597
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:39.039
that Cliff Olson's story on his encounter, and so he

1598
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.600
was a little bit but you know, I.

1599
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:42.279
Find it funny.

1600
01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:46.359
Is for me like he my stepdad when he was

1601
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:49.520
a kid, he actually was up in the Estacade area

1602
01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:52.920
and he's told this before, and so he was watching

1603
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:55.199
over a logging camp. You know, he was like twelve

1604
01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:59.640
years old, and I mean, I remember back then, if

1605
01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:02.520
they care eat a gun. But he did remember hearing

1606
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:06.560
screams and he said, and it doesn't sound like there

1607
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:09.600
were coyote screams, but you know, he chalks them up

1608
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:13.439
to being a coyote. I'm sure, but it sounded like

1609
01:34:14.119 --> 01:34:16.960
more of like a woman screaming, I believe something like that.

1610
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.840
But he didn't believe it was what it probably probably was,

1611
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:24.039
you know. But but I think it did cross his mind,

1612
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:26.880
you know, because even as a kid, he had heard

1613
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.000
about it, you know, and but he was a completely unbeliever.

1614
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:32.960
And I think he still is. But but it's but yeah,

1615
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:33.520
that's you know.

1616
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.279
But one thing I learned to was going up them

1617
01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:37.640
all of a river corridor.

1618
01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:40.079
There's been a lot of missing people up there have

1619
01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:42.640
heard and I.

1620
01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:44.520
Would never I mean, I know one time I went

1621
01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:48.399
up there and I was going to hike Rooster Rock Trail,

1622
01:34:48.680 --> 01:34:50.720
which is on the other side of the Table Rock Trail,

1623
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:53.159
and I started to hike it and I just kind

1624
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:54.760
of just sparrow the moment, you know, went up there

1625
01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:57.399
to do it, and I started hiking it. Just the beginning,

1626
01:34:57.439 --> 01:34:59.439
I'm like, you know what, I didn't let anybody know.

1627
01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:03.199
This isn't good. So I just turned around and left.

1628
01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:06.279
I'm like, not a good idea. You know, nobody knew

1629
01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:07.439
where I was going to be, and I was just

1630
01:35:07.479 --> 01:35:10.399
going to do this hike and come back, and I'm like, nah,

1631
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:13.720
not when I knew knew there was more out there

1632
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:18.000
than what people most people knew, you know. So but

1633
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:20.479
I believe Finding Bigfoot actually went up there on that

1634
01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:23.000
hill is where they actually went for part of their

1635
01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:27.680
episode they did, you know, in the beginning in the first.

1636
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:31.039
Season, they went up I believe it was the rooster Rock.

1637
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:33.720
Side of that hill is where they actually went for

1638
01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:36.680
part of what they were doing. A friend of mine

1639
01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:41.039
actually saw the crew that I worked with, and he's like, oh, yeah,

1640
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:42.079
I saw the crew up there.

1641
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:44.760
It was wondering what they were doing.

1642
01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:44.479
You know.

1643
01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:50.600
But and I do want to point out these these

1644
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:53.560
places that are being talked about in the Malala River

1645
01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:56.920
from what I know of their way out there, and

1646
01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:59.680
it's like, this is not a thing that you take lightly.

1647
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:04.479
You need you need to be prepared, you know. I

1648
01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:08.520
would hope people listening to this this show are are

1649
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:12.840
aware that locations that are talked about is very serious

1650
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:16.359
and you need to be prepared, you know, for whether

1651
01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:18.920
to change. And this is just something that's been in

1652
01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:24.279
the news lately and unfortunately that's happened. It's things can change,

1653
01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:29.520
and you need to be prepared for these situations to arise.

1654
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:34.319
And I'm talking about you know, the the two researchers

1655
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:39.399
that unfortunately were we're found up in Scamania County after

1656
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:41.840
going out on Christmas of this year.

1657
01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:47.039
But yeah, that was that was unfortunate to hear about that. Jeremiah, Yeah,

1658
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:50.159
I heard about it. It was local, being local here,

1659
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:54.079
you know about it that happened. My wife and I

1660
01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:57.319
actually took a track up and it was snowing pretty good,

1661
01:36:57.359 --> 01:36:59.319
which we don't have a four wheel drive right.

1662
01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:01.880
Now, and so we got up into some snow. And

1663
01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:02.960
this was on the twenty fifth.

1664
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:05.560
It took a little drive up towards Trout Lake area

1665
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:07.880
and we turned around because it was just it was

1666
01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:09.640
coming down pretty good and we didn't want to get

1667
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:10.640
up too far up in there.

1668
01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:13.920
But yeah, it's just the weather, that's the thing.

1669
01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:17.840
Is Like I've learned too, because you know, I've gotten

1670
01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:20.560
a couple of times up throw on the mountain. One

1671
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:24.359
time fortunate that was turned into a blizzard and that

1672
01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:27.039
was rough. But another time where I was trying to

1673
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:29.479
get back to my camp from down in the valley

1674
01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:33.159
and just the wind really brought the temperature down, and

1675
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:36.000
you know, I'm thinking either keep moving or build a fire,

1676
01:37:36.079 --> 01:37:36.279
you know.

1677
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:40.600
So it's it's just I normally what I would do.

1678
01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:43.119
Was with my dad as I have, we'd have radios

1679
01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:45.960
so we can keep contact with each other as I'm

1680
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:49.399
going down through the forest and he's had some back

1681
01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:52.359
issues so he can't track too far, so he would

1682
01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:53.800
usually stay back around camp.

1683
01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:56.520
But we tried to play it safe.

1684
01:37:56.279 --> 01:37:59.439
But I've just learned, even for myself, it's like you're

1685
01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:01.840
better off to go with somebody else, you know. It's

1686
01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:04.920
it's so much safer, you know, because something could happen,

1687
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:08.399
and when you're by yourself, you know you could be

1688
01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:11.359
and I know for years up there, the cell service

1689
01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:14.199
isn't good and you get out there. I mean it's

1690
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:16.640
like for me getting out to that spot, it's like

1691
01:38:16.680 --> 01:38:18.840
from Alala, it's like an hour and a half drive,

1692
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:21.960
you know, on these roads get up there, and so

1693
01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:25.439
it takes time and and you know, I've had a

1694
01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:26.520
flat tire up there.

1695
01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:27.319
It was with my dad.

1696
01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:30.840
Luckily was it nighttime and we actually had to change

1697
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:34.720
a tire on a hill with power lines. It was

1698
01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:37.359
we were driving up the roads and it happened on

1699
01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:38.880
the way down, so we had to jacket up on

1700
01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:39.319
a hill.

1701
01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:41.239
It's just not a good situation.

1702
01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:50.520
Yeah, that's wild. Oh my goodness, Yeah, wow, absolutely, it's

1703
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.720
You've got some incredible accounts that you've been sharing over

1704
01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:59.000
over our time together. I'm so glad that you you

1705
01:38:59.159 --> 01:39:03.319
reached out brand and its it's talking to guys like

1706
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:07.000
you that it's just you find out some some really

1707
01:39:07.039 --> 01:39:09.800
cool stuff that's happened over the years.

1708
01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:12.079
Well, I appreciate it, Jeremy.

1709
01:39:12.039 --> 01:39:14.760
I appreciate you know, like I said, you kind of

1710
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.800
just your enthusiasm is kind of you know, because after

1711
01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:21.000
a while you kind of it's nice to kind of

1712
01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:23.399
feel a little bit more fire inside about it, you know,

1713
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:27.159
like kind of wanting to because it's fun. You know,

1714
01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:29.359
it's fun to get out there and it's fun to explore,

1715
01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:32.359
you know, especially if you love the outdoors. And you know,

1716
01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:34.760
my wife and I we've done quite a lot of

1717
01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:38.560
camping trips. Some before last we went on about twenty

1718
01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:42.199
five hikes up because we're living you know, we live

1719
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.920
over in the Shugol close to Vancouver area, but up

1720
01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:48.000
the river, the Gorge, the Columbia.

1721
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:50.279
There's lots of place at the hike and I know

1722
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:51.399
just down from here.

1723
01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:56.600
I know Cliff has talked about with recently about there

1724
01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:01.840
there's a dam down here, and they we have frequent encounters,

1725
01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:04.720
you know, down at this damn Bonneville.

1726
01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:07.920
Damn. It's just down about just over thirty minutes from here,

1727
01:40:08.039 --> 01:40:08.239
you know.

1728
01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.920
And then and it actually one of my bosses actually

1729
01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.359
that I worked with, he told me he's had a

1730
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:19.079
couple of encounters one up Mountain Helens and hunting. And

1731
01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:22.319
then because I heard about it from another coworker, like, hey,

1732
01:40:22.399 --> 01:40:25.000
the boss has had some interesting things happen.

1733
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:27.239
So he's a believer, you know kind of thing, And

1734
01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:28.079
so I.

1735
01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:30.359
Asked him and he said yeah, And then he said

1736
01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:34.680
the last incident was over in Stevens, Washington, just up

1737
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.439
the river here, you know, down and he said it

1738
01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:40.359
was screaming and all the sounds. And he said, he goes,

1739
01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:42.479
I was done hunting after that. And it's about seven

1740
01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:45.319
eight years ago. He says, I'm not going hunting again.

1741
01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:50.079
So, oh my goodness. Yeah, man, pass on my email

1742
01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:52.520
if you want. I mean, I'd love to talk to him.

1743
01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:56.319
But that sounds that sounds absolutely wild. I mean, yeah,

1744
01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:59.199
that would be definitely enough to stop you from hunting.

1745
01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:06.239
Yeah, And I actually have one more I just thought

1746
01:41:06.279 --> 01:41:07.840
if I should share with youremiah.

1747
01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.479
Sure, it's interesting. I don't have a lot of detail.

1748
01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:16.199
But so so one of my daughters I call you know, daughters,

1749
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:16.960
but stepdaughters.

1750
01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:18.039
But they're great to me.

1751
01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:21.319
They call me Dad and they so one of them

1752
01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:25.399
was camping with her husband. This was two summers ago

1753
01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:29.159
in August, and they have we have we have three grandkids,

1754
01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:32.239
so she has, you know, two, and so they went

1755
01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:37.560
up camping up in Gifford Pinchot National Forces, the edge

1756
01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:38.760
of it where you go up on the.

1757
01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:43.439
Just on the south west side of Mount Saint Helen.

1758
01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:45.880
So they went up there to any we've camped at

1759
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:48.600
ourselves too and with them. But anyway, they went up

1760
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:53.399
there and they actually, gosh, it actually kind of tourned

1761
01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:56.960
horrible actually a little bit. So they started hearing these

1762
01:41:57.199 --> 01:42:00.439
owl sounds at night or on their camp. And there

1763
01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:02.359
was just a camp spot where you just find your

1764
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:06.000
own spot, you know, along this river and there's lots

1765
01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:08.960
of different nice places the camp and as a road

1766
01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:10.720
that kind of veers off in the main one that

1767
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:11.680
goes it wraps.

1768
01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:12.800
Up and around to Mount Saint Helens.

1769
01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:17.159
So anyway, so they they started hearing these owl sounds.

1770
01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:20.840
But they said that the owl were like, who it was?

1771
01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:23.680
Just it didn't sound right at the end, like it

1772
01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:26.720
was off. Something was off. So they were listening to

1773
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:32.520
this and then they said that they ended up hearing

1774
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:37.680
noises things coming in toward their camp and they said

1775
01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:41.920
that we were surrounded. What they told you know, me

1776
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:46.600
and my wife, they were surrounded by about eight of

1777
01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:52.680
these things around their camp and so it scared them

1778
01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:56.960
enough they actually had it. This is not funny, but

1779
01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:59.399
they actually had an engine problem and we ended up

1780
01:42:59.399 --> 01:43:02.239
going up there in their truck. It wouldn't start the

1781
01:43:02.279 --> 01:43:07.439
next day, and I didn't hear about this, well, I

1782
01:43:07.479 --> 01:43:09.920
don't think I heard about it after. But we just decided,

1783
01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:11.840
you know what, they need help or they're up there

1784
01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:14.800
and see what we can do. I'm not really too

1785
01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:17.479
much of a mechanic, but you know, if they we

1786
01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:19.399
can do anything to figure out what's going on why

1787
01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:22.560
their truck won't start. So we went up there and

1788
01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:25.800
we got it. We couldn't get it going. They came

1789
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:27.720
back up. They had left and came back up, but

1790
01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:31.000
then so to the exact spot. But they were kind

1791
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:33.920
of stuck there for a period because of the truck

1792
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.960
was broke down too. But when they left there, they

1793
01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:42.319
told us, like what happened, and they said they're pretty

1794
01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:44.600
sure that that was what was going on, and it

1795
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:47.000
scared them enough they said they're not going camping again.

1796
01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:50.399
Say we're stilling over camping stuff. So that's what they

1797
01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:53.840
told us. And her husband was big in the fishing, so,

1798
01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:56.479
you know, I don't think he would stop fishing. But

1799
01:43:56.840 --> 01:43:59.760
I think with the kids too, it's more like they

1800
01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:03.159
were worried more for the kids of anything.

1801
01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:03.520
You know.

1802
01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:08.640
They're probably at the time about five and six and

1803
01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:12.600
a half, you know, And but it really got their

1804
01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:17.079
attention with that night and made them because I told him,

1805
01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:19.159
you know, about some of the things that had happened before,

1806
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:20.840
but that was the first.

1807
01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:25.279
Time, you know that, Like you know, I think my

1808
01:44:25.399 --> 01:44:28.720
daughter's husband, he he would go out a.

1809
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:32.000
Little bit with me, but it was he really they

1810
01:44:32.079 --> 01:44:34.520
both really felt that that was what happened that night,

1811
01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:38.279
you know. So it was August first, actually, I believe,

1812
01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:42.800
because first or second, because I remember before the summer hit,

1813
01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.000
her husband told me he's like, yeah, I really want

1814
01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:47.800
to go up there at that time again and take

1815
01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:50.760
somebodies from work and see what happens. What he told me,

1816
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:53.560
so over time. Maybe it was I think it was

1817
01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:57.159
probably more than anything the grandkids, you know, and really

1818
01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:57.760
scared them.

1819
01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:07.239
And anyway, and my goodness, it's just you know, sometimes

1820
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.439
you talk to individuals and like they have something happened

1821
01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:15.159
early in life, and you know, stuff just fallows them

1822
01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:18.600
for the rest of their lives. Big for society will

1823
01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:37.239
be right back after these messages, I mean, and you

1824
01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:39.600
are kind of putting yourself in the situation as well.

1825
01:45:39.680 --> 01:45:42.479
Let's you know, we'll make that clear. You're definitely we're

1826
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:45.319
going out to different areas. But you have just had

1827
01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:51.279
some really intense things happen over the years, Brandon. And

1828
01:45:51.399 --> 01:45:53.239
it's been a pleasure talking to you about it.

1829
01:45:55.560 --> 01:45:58.079
Yeah, well it's been you know, it's been great being

1830
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.960
able to talk to you about this, Yeremiah, And and

1831
01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.840
you know, I just I know, for me, like, yeah,

1832
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:07.760
I've I've you know, I've seen bear, I've seen cougar before,

1833
01:46:08.119 --> 01:46:10.399
you know, And and I think at one time a

1834
01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:13.119
cougar was I didn't see it, but I'm assuming it

1835
01:46:13.159 --> 01:46:15.600
was a cougar stocking when I walked back to camp.

1836
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:20.439
But I just feel like, yeah, you know, you know,

1837
01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:24.079
but I guess, yeah, if you put yourself out there

1838
01:46:24.079 --> 01:46:28.399
in those areas. You know. Yeah, there's times where nothing's happened,

1839
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.800
and camping is great alone, you know, so it's like

1840
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:34.039
getting out there and having fun, enjoying company. You know.

1841
01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:36.760
My wife and I really enjoy camping, like I said,

1842
01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.640
and getting out there and it's something we do. And

1843
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:43.199
you know, we've gotten to hike up to Mount Mount

1844
01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:47.239
Rainier around some of the trails up there and and

1845
01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:47.680
some of the.

1846
01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:49.279
Beautiful fall colors.

1847
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:51.279
This last year we went up there and it was

1848
01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:53.920
just well, actually went two years in a row up there.

1849
01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:58.800
I do know. My I have an aunt that worked up.

1850
01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:03.399
With the up actually at Mount Rainier National Forest up there,

1851
01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:07.159
and this was probably over ten years ago. She actually

1852
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:11.079
told me that there was a report one summer. I

1853
01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:13.920
don't remember about what summer, but she said there was

1854
01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:18.039
a report of two different people seeing a white big

1855
01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:21.560
foot up there, and then another one that was you know,

1856
01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:25.000
a different color, darker. I'm assuming, but I thought that

1857
01:47:25.119 --> 01:47:27.560
was interesting. So she did tell me that, and she

1858
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:33.199
had worked there. So yeah, so she lives really close

1859
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:36.760
to Mount rain Rainier, like you know, just kind of

1860
01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:41.039
close to Morton as close there's like mineral Morton lb

1861
01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:43.039
kind of that whole little area where some of my

1862
01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:45.800
dad's side of the family lives still lives.

1863
01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:48.159
But yeah, she told me about that one time.

1864
01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:53.640
Was that just something that was reported to the rangers.

1865
01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:57.760
So I believe so it must have been reported to

1866
01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:01.880
the rangers, I think, you know, and she relaid it.

1867
01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.600
But yeah, that's incredible.

1868
01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:08.960
Yeah, White, I haven't heard. I don't think I've heard

1869
01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:13.000
a ton of white bigfoot reports from from that area,

1870
01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:16.399
but I'll have to look through through my episodes.

1871
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:20.680
Notice, too, loven Worth has got reports, you know, throughout

1872
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:24.479
the years around the area. And I don't know if

1873
01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:26.920
you ever been over to that town, but it's a

1874
01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:30.319
pretty neat town to see too. It's this barbarian, you

1875
01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:33.920
know town, and it's got all these it's touristic, but

1876
01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:37.079
it's still neat to see. And then it's pretty beautiful

1877
01:48:37.079 --> 01:48:39.680
because it's really tucked up, you know, against that the

1878
01:48:39.760 --> 01:48:42.680
Cascade range you know, on that side, so it's really

1879
01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:44.079
a beautiful setting where it's at.

1880
01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:46.640
I know there's a lot of reports out of the lake.

1881
01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:50.279
Is it Lake Wanachi is in the same area something

1882
01:48:50.319 --> 01:48:52.640
like that. Yeah, there's a lot of reports from out there.

1883
01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:56.600
But yeah, I've only been able to. I've just stuck

1884
01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:00.560
around Oakridge, part of the lamb At National Forest is

1885
01:49:01.079 --> 01:49:03.720
pretty much the main area I've been in so far

1886
01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:06.920
related to big for stuff out there. So we'll see

1887
01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:10.720
where I get to this this coming year when I

1888
01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:11.760
get out there again.

1889
01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:16.399
So, yeah, so did you did you happen to You

1890
01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:18.760
don't have to tell me too much, but so you

1891
01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:22.840
had an encounter yourself, right, I haven't actually heard yours,

1892
01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:25.479
but so was it in southern Oregon where you had?

1893
01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:29.479
So there are a few weird things that happened out

1894
01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:33.159
there in just outside the town of Oakridge. I was

1895
01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:36.039
out there for the festival Sasquatch Summer Fest, and I

1896
01:49:36.079 --> 01:49:41.279
was going out with the well Priscilla rosemand Davis organizer.

1897
01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:45.560
I went out with them and Jason Kenzie's film crew

1898
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:49.199
and some other people and to this area where her

1899
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:53.279
father had had some really interesting things encounterwise happen. This

1900
01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:55.520
is like way out in the woods on a service road,

1901
01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:59.000
and so we're up there. We had let's see, we

1902
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:02.239
got at we got there was a roar and then

1903
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:05.520
there was a roar slash scream from the woods at

1904
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:10.119
us while her dad was playing guitar. That was pretty wild.

1905
01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:14.359
There was a sighting in the meadow right next to it,

1906
01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:18.079
like five hours before that. That actually is the day before,

1907
01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:22.960
but that was that was the So that was pretty

1908
01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:27.359
That was pretty wild. That area is just so intense

1909
01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:30.600
and there's a lot of really intense things that happened

1910
01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:34.319
in that area. No, in Iowa, I've had stuff happen.

1911
01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:37.279
I've had you know, tree knocks, stuff get pushed over,

1912
01:50:38.159 --> 01:50:39.479
I've heard whoops.

1913
01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:39.800
Stuff like that.

1914
01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.199
But out in Oregon, I haven't had any visuals yet.

1915
01:50:43.239 --> 01:50:46.479
I haven't had any visuals across the board. But the

1916
01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:51.399
vocalizations were pretty intense out there, and it's just an

1917
01:50:51.439 --> 01:50:56.600
area where I definitely want to go back to, hopefully

1918
01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:58.279
next year see what happens.

1919
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.960
So yeah, yeah, that sounds like they're pretty a vocal

1920
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:04.399
out out in that area, you know, which I haven't

1921
01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:08.560
really experienced too much up here, except for that one night.

1922
01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:12.600
You know that they were that one was vocal. I

1923
01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:16.000
know just north of where we live. You know, I

1924
01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:18.279
heard from a lady that's in her eighties now. She

1925
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:21.279
actually told me this, but there was a cult. Yeah cult.

1926
01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:24.960
Little town is just north of Battleground and she had

1927
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:28.800
heard that there was I don't even know detail much,

1928
01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:32.159
but basically a witness that witnessed.

1929
01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:37.600
Like a female Sasquatch giving birth. I don't know.

1930
01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:42.239
This lady's pretty like real, She's not the kind of

1931
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:43.039
person that it lies.

1932
01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:45.239
I don't know who she heard it from, but that

1933
01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:48.000
is what she told me. So she was a believer.

1934
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:49.560
So she believed this person.

1935
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:55.159
You know, that's incredible. Hmm wow, I've never heard I

1936
01:51:55.159 --> 01:51:58.520
don't think I've ever taken a report like that before.

1937
01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:01.840
That would be how would be something else?

1938
01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:05.000
My goodness, My uncle Witch, he may listen to this.

1939
01:52:05.159 --> 01:52:07.399
He probably he was really in the big FOOTBA but

1940
01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:10.640
his was Yam Hill is where he had his he's

1941
01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:14.279
liked when he was in his twenties. And but I

1942
01:52:14.319 --> 01:52:16.600
actually think I seen the graveyard because it's out in

1943
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:18.479
the country, you know where it was, and it's kind

1944
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:19.119
of on this hill.

1945
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:22.159
But no, he told that story for years.

1946
01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:24.600
And and I didn't know him, Like, well, maybe he's

1947
01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:27.600
mistaken maybe you know, but I think he must have,

1948
01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:31.680
you know, it's like but but yeah, so there's there's

1949
01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:36.359
definitely a lot of areas. And I appreciate you know,

1950
01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:40.039
all over you're doing, you know, these different interviews, but

1951
01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:42.960
It's really cool to hear him local too, because it

1952
01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:45.199
kind of gets you kind of excited in your area,

1953
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:47.319
you know, when you hear about some of these other

1954
01:52:47.359 --> 01:52:50.159
ones that have happened around, you know, so it's kind

1955
01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:52.039
of got me more and like, I want to talk

1956
01:52:52.079 --> 01:52:55.039
to you and you know, tell you about you know,

1957
01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:58.239
even though I feel like the best one I had

1958
01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:02.439
was my visual, But it was really very scary as

1959
01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:06.039
a kid, you know, seeing this thing and the stone

1960
01:53:06.119 --> 01:53:08.720
face looked and you know, and then and then it

1961
01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:11.520
never blinked, you know, like it was just staring. But

1962
01:53:11.640 --> 01:53:15.079
the size of it, you know, was pretty short, you know.

1963
01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:19.720
And I know when I researched after, I actually looked

1964
01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:23.680
up the investigator that researched mine, and I found another

1965
01:53:23.720 --> 01:53:27.039
report up at the same campground, and this was about

1966
01:53:27.079 --> 01:53:33.000
two thousand one, I believe, and and it was a

1967
01:53:33.039 --> 01:53:34.840
couple like a boyfriend girlfriend.

1968
01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:35.520
They had a dog.

1969
01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:38.199
They went up to the campground there and they woke

1970
01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:40.560
up in the morning or their dog woke them up.

1971
01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:44.880
The dog was barking and they heard these loud bipedal

1972
01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:49.600
stomps going off. So I noticed he investigated that too,

1973
01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:53.479
So I thought that was pretty cool that this guy

1974
01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:55.880
you know, didn't tell me about it, but I found

1975
01:53:55.880 --> 01:53:58.000
it myself up at the same campground.

1976
01:53:58.119 --> 01:53:59.199
So that's kind of neat.

1977
01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:02.199
Was that on BFRO or.

1978
01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:07.560
Yeah, because he was part of BFR, Yes, I believe

1979
01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:11.479
so yeah, so yeah, so I found that and I thought, well,

1980
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:14.760
you know, it could have been the same family, could

1981
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:18.359
have been the same one grown up more, you know, really, but.

1982
01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:24.199
Yeah, it sounds like it is an encounter, you know,

1983
01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:26.279
and you were pretty young at that time, but it

1984
01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:29.279
really affected you for the rest of your life, probably

1985
01:54:29.439 --> 01:54:32.920
set you on a path where you know, it was

1986
01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:36.479
just something you're always looking into as well.

1987
01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:40.760
I would guess, yeah, you know, I think one of

1988
01:54:40.760 --> 01:54:43.359
the things I think from I feel like I'm sure

1989
01:54:43.399 --> 01:54:46.560
a lot of other people, it's like I kind of

1990
01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:50.039
wish somebody else could have seen what I saw, you know,

1991
01:54:50.119 --> 01:54:53.560
like nobody else was awake. And you know, the only

1992
01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:55.960
thing I questioned my mind is like if I would

1993
01:54:55.960 --> 01:54:57.840
have woke my dad up, which I don't, you know,

1994
01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.319
see doing that. He was clear on the other side,

1995
01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:03.640
but he did have a little pistol underneath his hello.

1996
01:55:03.800 --> 01:55:07.640
I remember that, and and you know, I always.

1997
01:55:07.319 --> 01:55:08.840
Wondered if I would have woke come up.

1998
01:55:09.239 --> 01:55:11.600
It probably would have been good, and especially if this

1999
01:55:11.720 --> 01:55:14.560
wasn't a full grown one and there was a mama

2000
01:55:14.640 --> 01:55:18.840
or daddy out there not far, you know, kind of thing. So,

2001
01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:22.640
but seeing the fire going too, it's like, you know,

2002
01:55:22.800 --> 01:55:24.279
it was kind of neat that I could tell the

2003
01:55:24.319 --> 01:55:26.920
fire were still going in the back. In the back,

2004
01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.159
it was lit up enough that I could make out

2005
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:32.119
a pretty good amount of the face, you know, And

2006
01:55:32.439 --> 01:55:36.279
but it was just just the ears was what kind

2007
01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:37.199
of threw me off.

2008
01:55:37.279 --> 01:55:38.479
Really, it was the only thing.

2009
01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:41.920
And the hair was hairy, but you know, it didn't

2010
01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:45.079
have it had the flatterface like a human. It was

2011
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:48.039
definitely very covered with hair all over except the nose

2012
01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:52.119
and you know, and the and the forehead. But it

2013
01:55:52.359 --> 01:55:54.640
just the way the hair went down, all the same

2014
01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.680
thick length it and it was just standing with his

2015
01:55:57.840 --> 01:55:59.960
arms down that I knew that it was, you know,

2016
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:03.560
it was something that wasn't It wasn't a man. You know,

2017
01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:05.119
I kind of ruled out it wasn't.

2018
01:56:05.640 --> 01:56:09.800
It wasn't a human. And it was too real looking.

2019
01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:12.840
It was scary looking the way it looked, you know,

2020
01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:15.680
it looked it kind of looked mean in a way.

2021
01:56:16.079 --> 01:56:19.239
Now I don't know. Obviously you didn't do anything, but

2022
01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:21.560
it kind of looked not.

2023
01:56:21.479 --> 01:56:24.880
Real happy by the way. It just looked that no expression.

2024
01:56:25.479 --> 01:56:30.439
You know, absolutely absolutely wild stuff, Brandon. I feel like

2025
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:33.199
I could talk to you for days, but it has

2026
01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:36.199
been it has been quite quite the conversation tonight. I

2027
01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:38.720
just want to say thank you for coming on. Keep

2028
01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:42.760
me in the loop, you know. If stuff can continues

2029
01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:44.720
to happen, or if you hear other things, feel free

2030
01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:48.199
to definitely reach out. I'd love to hear from you.

2031
01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:51.800
It sounds like you got some good connections out there.

2032
01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:52.439
Yeah.

2033
01:56:52.439 --> 01:56:57.199
Well, I really thank you Jeremiah for having me on

2034
01:56:57.439 --> 01:57:01.039
and being able to talk about this, because I feel

2035
01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:03.880
like people need to hear about what's going on, you know,

2036
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:08.239
and and be careful out there, you know, and be safe,

2037
01:57:08.399 --> 01:57:11.079
especially when the weather is unpredictable too, you know, like

2038
01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:14.119
in the mountains, and and I just appreciate your time

2039
01:57:14.279 --> 01:57:16.279
and thank you very much.

2040
01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:19.039
Yes, sir, you have you have a good one. Thank

2041
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:28.680
you for chatting YouTube. Jomrh just want to take a

2042
01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:31.159
few minutes to say thank you to you all my

2043
01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:35.399
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2052
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or pass on my email. Here's the list. Number one

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encounters from Franklin County, Texas. Number two encounters from the

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01:58:16.319 --> 01:58:20.279
entire state of Iowa. Number three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon

2056
01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:23.760
or the surrounding area. Number four any individuals that know

2057
01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:27.000
about bigfoot being flown off after the Mount Saint Helens eruption.

2058
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Number five. Individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter while

2059
01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:34.039
in the military. Number six. Those that have had a

2060
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:37.520
bigfoot encounter in the southern New Hampshire or north central

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01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:42.479
Massachusetts area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts. Number seven. Individuals that

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01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:44.560
have had a bigfoot encounter in a Bible camp or

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boy Scout camp setting. Number eight individuals that have had

2064
01:58:48.079 --> 01:58:50.520
bigfoot try to enter their house forcibly while they were

2065
01:58:50.520 --> 01:58:54.960
living inside. Number nine individuals that have actively have a

2066
01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:59.279
bigfoot living on their property. And lastly, any sightings that

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are in the Watch National Forest Area of Oklahoma or Arkansas.

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