March 14, 2025

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Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society welcomes Annette from Cottage Grove, Oregon, to the show to recounts her uncanny experiences with Bigfoot. Beginning with a childhood sighting in Portland in 1969, she describes seeing hair-covered beings at a...

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Season 1

Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society welcomes Annette from Cottage Grove, Oregon, to the show to recounts her uncanny experiences with Bigfoot. Beginning with a childhood sighting in Portland in 1969, she describes seeing hair-covered beings at a backyard fort. Annette shares intriguing encounters, including a night in Blair Lake campgrounds where heavy bipedal beings circled her tent, and a terrifying ordeal at Brice Creek feeling an angry presence towering over her. She also reveals a chilling event when a female Sasquatch appeared in her living room, and a bizarre incident involving mysteriously cut ropes at Oakridge. Listen to Annette’s vivid memories recovered through hypnosis, including close encounters with young Sasquatches, and explore fascinating details about Sasquatch behaviors and physical features she observed.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show, all right, Pick for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Annette today. Net's a

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listener that reached out to me about some things she's

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experienced over the years, and she's from Cottage Grove, Oregon.

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Welcome to the show today, and att how's it going.

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Thanks, I'm doing good, glad to be here.

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Absolutely, I've been waiting to talk to you for quite

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a while. Always, you know, there are certain areas that

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you know, I really like to hear about in this

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area of Oregon is one of my favorites as listeners. Know,

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I have, you know, a lot of episodes from out

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in this area. But I'm going to go ahead and

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let's pass things right over to you so you have

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the time to share what you've experienced over the years,

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and feel free to take us back to when this

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all started to happen for you.

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Okay, Well, when I was young, I was like maybe

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three going on four years old. We were living up

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in Portland, Oregon, and we were really you know, Portland

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wasn't quite as developed as it is today, obviously because

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it was nineteen sixty nine, but we lived pretty close

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to downtown Portland, Oregon, and really all the ards kind

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of went right off these railroad tracks kind of uphill,

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so all the yards kind of descended down. And it

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was the summer of nineteen sixty five and all the

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kids and me were and my older brother's sister were

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playing down at this two story fort and the fort

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was in the backyard about two houses down. So there

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was our house, and then there was another house, and

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then the next house had the fort that was in

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the backyard that sort of declined down, and then the

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fort was almost just right to where the railroad trucks were,

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you know, but up in the yard, and then the

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railroad tracks kind of came down, and on the other

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side of the railroad tracks was just a bunch of

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green ways with lots of fruit trees and blackberries and

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you know, just kind of a green swath of land.

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So well, it was in the fall, and all the

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kids had returned to school, and I being three, kind

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of going on four, because I don't remember exactly the

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date that, you know, I'm born in the fall, and

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so I don't remember if I was four or three.

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But anyways, my parents we were moving out of our

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house and we were moving to another house in Portland,

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and they had a couple friends of theirs over and

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they were kind of packing stuff up, and they had

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explained to me that that we were moving. And I

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knew about moving because it wasn't our first move that

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we'd made earlier in my life, we'd also moved to

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Portland because I'm from Eugene. So anyways, so they had

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explained that to me, and both the front door and

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the back door was open, and I decided to sneak

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out the back door because I really wanted to see

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that fort one last time, because I knew that, you know,

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more likely I would never see it again. And so

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I snuck out the back door and I walked through

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the side yard and up to the sidewalk, and I

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walked down to the ford. And when I got to

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that backyard, you know, I wasn't too stable on my

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feet at that age, so I was really just looking

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down at the ground, making sure that I didn't fall

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or trip or anything like that. And so I'm staring

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at the ground and I walk up to the fort

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or down well, I was walking down the yard to

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the ford, and I get to the base of the

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ford and I look up and I see these hair

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covered beings standing at the top level of the ford.

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And let me explain the ford a little bit. It

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was an open framed ford with two levels. One was

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down low where I was standing, and it, you know,

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had poles to hold the ford up, and then there

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was a second level up above that was open, and

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then it had a ladder connecting the two on the

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back side of it. But I was looked up and

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there was these hair covered beings and they were they

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huddled together, and they seemed kind of scared of me.

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They weren't very tall. They were taller than me, but

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they weren't like real large or anything like that, you know,

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or an adult size, you know, they were They looked

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somewhere between my height and an adult side, maybe the

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tallest being at five feet or so. But so I

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looked up and I saw them, and they seemed to be,

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you know, really scared of me. And in my mind,

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I'm just like, what is this? You know, what are they?

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And then you know, I was thinking in my head, well, wait,

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you know, they don't look like a monkey. They don't

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look like an ape, you know, mutual mohall. You know,

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we used to watch that as a family, and you know,

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while Kingdom. And also another thing was nineteen sixty eight,

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the movie planeted Eats had come out, and I remember thinking, wait,

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is that movie real? And then I thought, yeah, but

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they don't look at all like the characters in that

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movie either, And so I didn't know. And the weird

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part was is that I experienced missing time. After that.

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There was no other memory other than looking up at

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these beings. And the next thing I remember, I'm up

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on the sideway sidewalk at that house in between the

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two houses, and I'm looking at my house and I

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feel like the whole world is rushing, like I kind

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of get this huge head rush or feel like the

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world's kind of I don't know. It was a really

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strange physical feeling, and suddenly the whole world just felt

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larger than life, you know. And so I walked home

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and you know, the front door and the back door

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doors still open, you know. And so I walked in

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the front door and I didn't know who my parents were,

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but my dad, you know, saw me. He's like, there

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you are, you know. He comes over and he picks

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me up, and he puts me on the fire hearth

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and they rolled up the rug, you know, our living

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room rug, and my mom gave me a loving smile,

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and I just remember being so grateful that they were

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my parents, you know. And anyways, so that was that.

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We ended up that day moving to another house in Portland.

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And the wird thing about this experience is that I

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never it was so impactual for me that I never

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forgot about it. Every day it came to my mind,

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and over like fifty three years, by the time I

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went to a hypno therapist to try to regress, to

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figure out what really happened. You know, I think the

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memory faded. I could I couldn't remember how many beings

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there were, you know, things I did well, A couple

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of things. I remember that they had lighter colored skin,

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and I seem to have remembered sort of a reddish

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orange hair and a golden retriever gold colored hair, And

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later on that kind of comes into play as to

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why I remembered that. So life went on after that,

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and we'll kind of come back to that. But the

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next thing, you know, I grew up fishing and going

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up fishing up in the Cascades and up at Odell Lake.

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My dad kept his boat up there, and as kids

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we went out into the woods a lot and never

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saw anything. And I got into my thirties and I

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was married to my first husband, and you know, it's

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a little background. He had a lot of problems with

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in insomnia, and he would always fall asleep at like,

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you know, nine or ten, and then wake up at

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like one in the morning and stay up until four

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in the morning, and then would fall back asleep. But

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what our plans were this particular day, we'd gotten off

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work and we were going to go into Eastern Oregon.

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But we were looking for a place just to go camping,

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you know, on the way to eastern Oregon. And I

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actually did that a lot in my you know, thirties

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or so. So we went up to uh Oak Ridge

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and we were just looking for a place to go camping.

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And I think the place was Salt Creek Falls, where

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there's like three camping spots that kind of overlooked these waterfalls.

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And I had my dog with me, but my dog

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was never really good with other dogs. And when we

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got up there there campsite, there was one that was available,

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but there was two other people that had three pitbulls

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that were off leash, and I thought, my dog's gonna

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not get along. And my dog was a corgy saw

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you know, he's smaller, and I thought, I just don't

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need any incident like this. So I pulled out my

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handy map and decided to go further up towards Blair Lake.

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So we drive on that logging road and we just

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keep driving and driving, and it was like I think

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twenty four or twenty five miles up on that logging road,

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and you know, it was afternoon by the time we'd

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gotten at least to Salt Creek Falls. But now it's

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getting later and we find this little campground that well,

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I thought it was Blair Lake, but I later learned

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that it wasn't. It was someplace maybe close to Blair Lake,

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but it wasn't Blaurir Lake. But it was right off

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the logging road and it was this little, tiny kind

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of pond like lake that had several campsites around it.

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Very rudimentary, and that was fine because you know, we

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just wanted to stay the night and get up at

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the krack of dawn and leave again to get out

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to eastern Oregon. So I was camping there and we

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didn't make a fire. We just went into our tents.

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And one of the things that I was really concerned

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about was that all around the lake there was these

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blue huckleberry bushes and all huckleberries were just ripe. And

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I was like, oh no, because you know, black bear

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like huckleberries. And I was like, shoot, I don't want

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a bear coming into camp. And I remember kind of

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looking down the logging road and the sun was starting

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to set and I'm like, jeez, we can't make it

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back down. You know, this isn't a safe spot to

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camp and so I remember kind of having those thoughts

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and being concerned that way. So we didn't make a campfire,

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and we just went in and crawled into our tents

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and went to bed because we were going to get

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up at the crack of dawn to get back on

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the road again. And that night, at about one forty,

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I woke up and I had to go to the bathroom,

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so I kind of sit up in my sleeping bag

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and I hear, so there's the logging road, and where

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we were camping RD off the logging road, so the

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car was really just behind me. But also on the

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other side of the logging road was an incline up

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on a hill that was probably about sixty to seventy

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degrees incline going up. And so I'm sitting in my

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tent and I hear coming down that incline, what I

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thought was maybe a small herd of elk, and I've

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been around elk herds before, but this sounded like just

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a couple two, three, four or five I don't know

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elks right coming off the hill. And so I'm sitting

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there and I'm like, well, they'll kind of part and

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pass the tent, you know, And then I can get

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out and go to the bathroom. But there was sort

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of a hesitation at the logging road when the elk

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got to the logging road, and then there was just

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kind of a moment of silence, and then all of

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a sudden, three bipedal beans, heavy heavy bipedal beans came

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walking towards my tent. One went on one side of

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my tent, one went on the other side of my tent,

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and one went just kind of on the curvature of

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the water. And weirdly enough, I'm sitting there going what

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is this? Because they started piecing from one foot to

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the other foot, and I mean it's right right outside

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of where I'm sitting up in my tent, you know,

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and so and the other ones on the other side

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of the tent, and they get in sync with each

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other on the kind of going from one foot to another.

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And every time they make a step like the earth moves,

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that's how heavy they whatever it is is. And at

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the time, you know, I didn't have big foot in

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my head at all, so I'm thinking, why is there

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elk sitting there on four feet and they're doing that

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with their back legs, you know. So that's what I'm

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thinking it is, but I'm thinking that's really weird behavior.

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And anyways, this went on for well, I don't know

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if I just kind of got mesmerized because I felt

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like I was being rocked in a cradle because they

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were all in sync with each other. But then I

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h at about twenty in the morning, I'm sitting there still,

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and I realized, wait, they've stopped, and I'm like, I

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didn't hear them walk off, or i didn't hear the

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elk walk off, and I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.

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It's something just standing outside my tent, and I'm like,

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and I really have to go to the bathroom.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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And so I'm like, there is no way I'm getting

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out of my tent. And so I just was like, Okay,

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I'm just going to lay down here, and I did

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a little prayer to God and said, please God, let

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me sleep till daylight, you know, so I could get

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up and go to the bathroom. And so sure enough,

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I instantly fall asleep and morning comes. It's five point

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thirty and it's daylight, and I get up and you know,

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my husband wakes up and he's like, you know, man,

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I've never slept so great in my whole life. And

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I'm like, yeah, you know. And I never said anything

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to him about my waking up or anything, and I

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just I quickly wanted to pack up and get the

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heck out of there, and that's exactly what I did.

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So that was kind of that encounter. And I kind

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of forgot to mention before that I might have been

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more in my twenties at that age. I had gone

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up towards Oak Ridge with a boyfriend of mine and

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we had his parents's two Golden Retrievers and we both

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worked that day in the morning and we were going

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to go out into eastern Oreon once again. And we

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stopped at this little campground and I can't remember the

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name of it, and I have no idea this had

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to do with Bigfoot. It was just a weird experience.

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But so we'd stopped at this campground and it had

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maybe nineteen spots, you know, fifteen spots, I don't know.

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It was a really small campground. No one else was there.

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Highway fifty eight was right by it, and it was

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about three o'clock in the afternoon, and we thought, oh,

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you know, let's take a little bit of a nap.

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That was going to stay up by the campfire and

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enjoy the campfire tonight, so we'll just take a little

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bit of a nap. So we took the two Golden Retrievers,

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Roxy and Charlie, and we tied them up to the

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pig snake table because we didn't want them wandering up

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onto Highway fifty eight. And so we tied them up

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to the picnic table with some nylon rope and we

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just tied it to their collars and then tied them

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to the picnic tables and that way they, you know,

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could stay safe while we took a quick nap. And

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so we took our nap, but about an hour nap

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and we got up and I couldn't believe it. We

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got out of the tent and the dogs are just

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running around the campsite and so I walk over and

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I look, and the nylon rope has been cut, I

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mean cut like with a knife. It looks like, you know,

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it's a real sharp, clean cut. And they're just wandering

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around waiting for us to get up. And thank god,

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they didn't go up onto the road. But there's nobody

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in the campsite, and we didn't. I'm sure I would

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have woke up if a car had pulled in. So

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that was really weird. We you know, we went in

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and stayed there that night, but I kind of, I

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remember kind of looked in the woods and kept thinking,

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is somebody watching us? You know? Was there some person

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that maybe's living up in the woods. It was just

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trying to give us a message that we weren't alone.

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So that was also kind of a weird time out

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in the woods. So moving on, So it was probably

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about maybe eight or nine years ago, and I had

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gone up to Bryce Creek and I had just moved

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out here to Cottage Grove, so I wanted to go

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up to Bryce Creek. I'd been up there before, but

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it's a pretty hard trail to kind of climb. It's

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not hard if you're in shape, but at that time

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I was really really out of shape. And so and

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the reason I wanted to go up there was I

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had this little dog that it was a rescue dog

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from San Francisco and there was a whole kind of

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story that went with her why she was rescued out

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of that city, and she was around the homeless camp

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and it was kind of sad, and I wanted her

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to see the woods, you know, and so that was

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my intention to go there. So I get up to

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the parking lot and so I thought, you know, I'm

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just gonna walk up the creek here because I'm not

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gonna go over to the trailhead because that's a lot

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of up and down, a lot of climbing. I thought

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I can just walk up the creek a little bit.

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And so the moment though I stepped out of the

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parking lot and into the creek, I got this horrible

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feeling that something was very very angry at me, and

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it was towering over me. And I didn't have a weapon.

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I just had me and my little dog. And my

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dog she is looking back behind me or kind of

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off to the side of me, and behind me was

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sort of like this whole hedge of like Laurel and

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vine may bow and I don't know what else for plants,

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but basically it was like a hedge. It was maybe

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like six or seven feet tall, right, and I felt

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like something was watching me, but I couldn't see anything,

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but my dog is looking behind me at where I

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can feel something looking at me, and so I turned

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my back on it, and in my mind, I just said,

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you know, back off from me now. Because I was

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scared and I didn't know what else to do. I said,

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back off for me. This isn't going to end well

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for either you or me. And I just said that

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in my head, and then I kind of was like, well,

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you know, I started kind of talking to it, and

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I said, listen, the only reason I'm here is, you know,

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because of this dog. I want her to see how

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beautifuful the forest is. She comes from a big city

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where she's only known concrete, and I wanted to just

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see the woods. And so I'm like so, and so

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what I did was I went ahead and I looked

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up to where I wanted to walk too, and I said,

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in my mind, I said, this is where I'm going

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to walk, and I kind of shot at a picture

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and I said, I will turn around at this point

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and come back. And so I started walking. But my

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dog will not quit looking behind me as I'm walking,

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and I feel whatever, this thing that's angry and mad

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and large is behind me. I keep kind of stealing glances,

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but I see nothing but that hedge, right, and the

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worst thing I didn't want to see was some kind

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of eyebles looking out of that hedge, because that would

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have freaked me out, you know. And so but my

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dog keeps looking and I'm trying to distract her. And

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she's been really good because she is you know, when

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I distract her, she's doing kind of what I say.

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I grab a stick and I play with her in

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the water a little bit and shore this stick and

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kind of point to some trees with her, and she

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looks at those trees. But then she looks back behind me, right,

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you know, she does that, and we kind of make

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our way up. I have to climb over some logs

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and stuff. We make my way up to that point

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where I said I would turn back, and I kind

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of stretched and I looked up the creek and it

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was so beautiful in the forest, and I stretched and

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I thought, God, I could just walk here forever. And

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I had this horrible bolt of dread shoot through my

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body and then it was gone. That bolt of dread,

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just it was a feeling that came through me, and

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then it was gone. And I thought, yes, I thought

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I was talking to some I'm a person in my word,

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I will turn around, I won't continue and so I

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turned around and I went in and walked back to

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where the parking lot started. And the weird part about

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that was, you know, the whole time I felt walked.

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When I was playing with my dog in the water

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and I kind of put the stick in the water,

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the feeling of anger from whatever this being was, I

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could feel suddenly kind of like a curiosity from it,

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a little bit like it was curious as to why

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I would like a dog. What this didn't make sense

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to whatever this creature was, why I would even have

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any regards for a dog. I kind of had that feeling,

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so I could feel its emotions change. But also when

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I got back up to the parking lot, the moment

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I stepped foot onto the gravel parking lot and got

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both my feet onto that gravel, the feeling of being

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washed was totally gone and everything felt like normal. So

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I went from being intensely watched the whole time to

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suddenly there's nobody watching me in the parking lot felt fine.

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So I walked back to my car and left and

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didn't really think too much of it, and then I

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started I think the first thing I kind of noticed

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at home was I noticed underneath my husband's truck. There

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was two gardener snakes that were kind of shaped into

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the shape of a figure eight, like infinity, and then

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they were pinched off and killed in the center, like

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they pinched the center of the eight and left that

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in my driveway, and I thought, oh god, you know,

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and you know, that's kind of creepy and scary, and

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you know, so I never picked it up, and it

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just ended up kind of getting dry and kind of

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you know that sort of thing. I don't know, it

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just got old and dried, and I never did anything.

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I did start getting weird rocks showing up in the

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pea gravel in my backyard, you know, just just rocks,

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you know that. But there were rocks that you know,

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and I'm a toll rock person and I have baskets

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of rocks and stuff, but none of them were rocks

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that I had. So there were things that were being

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introduced into my backyard so that there were pretty rocks.

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I'd just pick them up and you know, put them

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in my basket or bring them in the house. You know.

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It was nice. So and I definitely started kind of

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looking more into sasquash at that point because I just

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kept thinking what was that in the woods. You know,

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one night though, I it was late at night and

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I was thinking about everything, and I just thought, oh,

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and Nitt, you're just crazy. These things don't exist. You're

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just you need to get your life back in order.

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You need to kind of get back into you know,

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helping people. And not that I wasn't helping people, but

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you know, get serious. Quit thinking about this, quit watching

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these shows, quit thinking that this stuff exists, and you know,

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get your act together. There's there's never been anything like this,

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and it doesn't exist. And so I went to bed,

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and the next day I was I had the day off,

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and I was playing a video game and I had

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half my headphones on, so I was listening to the

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video game, but you know, I had an ear out

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for if somebody knocked on the door or whatever. And

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I heard this loud kaboom on top of my house,

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like something landed or fell on my house. And then

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I heard boom, boom, and it ran off my house.

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My dogs went berserk. The dogs going all the way

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down to the street to the huge open fields went berserk.

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Every house went berserk of the animals. So I know

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it wasn't just me. I heard that, and so I

453
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:51.559
ran into the front yard. I threw my headphones off,

454
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:54.160
you know, ran through my house, ran to the front yard,

455
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:56.440
and when I got to the front yard, I kind

456
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:58.559
of heard in my own head, you know, just sort

457
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.200
of my own voice, a soft way, say, come to

458
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.839
the field, you'll see us. And I was like, I

459
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:10.279
don't care about that. I'm worried about my roof of

460
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.680
my house. At the time, I had foundation issues with

461
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.519
my house and I hadn't had that repaired yet, and

462
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.319
so now I'm thinking I've got a broken roof because

463
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:23.119
the way it hit was so hard. So I ran

464
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.599
back in the house random, you know, out the slang

465
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.160
glass door, looked up at my roof, and there's no

466
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.920
sign of anything being up on my roof. There's no footprints,

467
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.319
there's no cracked roof. I would have thought, for as

468
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.319
hard as it had landed, that my beam of my

469
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.400
house would have been carved in. It was that hard

470
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.759
of how it landed, almost like it got dropped from

471
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.839
some I don't know, flying saucer or a plane, or

472
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.960
at least someone had jumped out a plane or something. Anyways,

473
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.599
So but yeah, I never went back out to the

474
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.359
field or pursued it at all, but all the dogs reacted,

475
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:05.960
you know, in the neighborhood. So that was it was

476
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.880
kind of like, we're here. Don't doubt us, you know.

477
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:19.920
But so so after that, what had happened was so

478
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:25.720
it was twenty nineteen and a friend of mine, well

479
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.880
a person that I knew. I knew it from a

480
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.519
friend of a friend. Apparently they had had a sasquatch,

481
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:37.559
they had a sighting, and I was so jealous. They

482
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.960
had moved up here from California, and I was mad

483
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.480
because I'm like, I'm from Ore again. I'm the one

484
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.240
that should have a sighting, not them, you know. So

485
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.319
I have to admit I was really pretty jealous, and

486
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.440
I was thinking about it, and I was I went

487
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.640
through all kinds of emotions over the issue because I thought,

488
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.920
you know, darn it, you know, I should have spent

489
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.400
more time out this summer in the woods. Maybe I

490
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.000
would have seen one. I should have done that, I

491
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.680
should have done this, you know. So you know, I

492
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:12.000
had a job in Eugene, and so I was commuting

493
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.119
back and forth, and I would always kind of take

494
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.240
the scenic route through the woods, and every time I

495
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.119
kind of got towards the woods that I you know,

496
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.799
kind of had a voice that came into my head.

497
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.680
I figured it was just my self talking to myself,

498
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.400
but it's like, hey, and n it. You know, if you

499
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.200
could see a big foot, what kind of siding do

500
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.720
you want to see? You know? And I'm like, geez,

501
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.079
I don't know, you know. And I thought about it

502
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.200
over three days, I thought, you know, and this was

503
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.440
as I was driving. I would always think about this.

504
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.000
I'd be like, what kind of sighting would I want?

505
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.559
You know, maybe way out in the woods, you know,

506
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.599
I could see one far away, and I thought, no,

507
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:52.599
I want to see one up close, you know. And

508
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.680
I thought, well, I don't want to see a big

509
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.519
male set squash up close. That would be super super scary,

510
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:03.319
right And I'm thinking, well, maybe a juvenile male.

511
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.440
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

512
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.599
And I thought, yeah, yeah, I could see a juvenile

513
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.720
male maybe up closed. And I thought, no, I think

514
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:32.039
i'd be kind of scared about that too, you know.

515
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.400
And then I thought, you know what, Finally, it was

516
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.079
like day three of thinking about this while I was driving,

517
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.759
and I thought, you know, I want to see a

518
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.119
female up close. Because you know all the stories you read,

519
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:49.000
you know, you have less of a bad counter if

520
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:54.400
you see a female, right, And so I finally said, okay,

521
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.920
I want to see a female, you know, And you know,

522
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.559
I'm just fantasizing in my head as far as I knew.

523
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:05.279
So the very next night, it's about eight twenty at night,

524
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.799
and this is two thousand and nine, and it's November eighth,

525
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:12.640
and I marked the date, and it was about eight

526
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.559
twenty at night. My husband's in on his computer and

527
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.359
he's got his headphones on, and all my dogs are

528
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.680
laying there asleep, and I look over at the slide

529
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.240
glass door and I see a black, hairy foot coming

530
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:32.160
through the glass and the curtain and I see it's foot,

531
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.000
I see it's me, and then I see it kind

532
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.400
of come right up into a stand up position, and

533
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:45.240
it's a female sasquatch. And she took one step and

534
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.960
she was kind of hunched over a little bit, and

535
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.720
she kind of like tossed her shoulders and stood up

536
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:57.720
real straight. And let me tell you this female, she was, Oh,

537
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.039
she was so fierce looking. It was unreal. That just

538
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:06.319
incredibly beautiful. And she looked at me and she had

539
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:12.480
the most scariest looking eyes though, So I thought, well, okay,

540
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.160
this is this weird. I can't explain this lighting glass

541
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.240
door thing, you know, that doesn't make any sense to me.

542
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:23.839
But here she is. And so she looked at me,

543
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.240
and she just stood there, and so I looked at her.

544
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.960
She had kind of a conical head. She had black hair,

545
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.200
She had black black skin, so she was all black.

546
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.279
And her hair, you know, was on her head anyways.

547
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.400
It was probably about six to eight inches long, and

548
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.160
it was different lengths at different parts of her body,

549
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:52.000
so there was definitely shorter hair and longer hair. But

550
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.039
so I kind of looked at the top of her hair,

551
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.079
and her hair was kind of parted down sort of

552
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.880
the center of her hair, and she had bangs coming

553
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.839
down on her forehead and they were kind of thin

554
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.640
and dispersed, so I could see her forehead pretty well

555
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:11.960
through her bangs. Her hair was really really straight, very shiny,

556
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.079
and the hair tapered off at the very ends, kind

557
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.000
of like an animal's hair would taper off. And she

558
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:25.400
had an eyebrow ridge that was really large went from

559
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.599
kind of where the nosebridge would be clear to where

560
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.559
the side of the head would be so much much

561
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.599
wider eyebrow than ours. But her face was narrow like

562
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:39.599
a human's face, but just the eyebrow feature went over

563
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:49.960
much further and more straight than ours. And she had

564
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.079
luminized blue eyes, like they were lit up and they

565
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.440
were all blue. But I tried not to really look

566
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.799
at her in the eye because I wanted to kind

567
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.240
of get good look at her from top to bottom,

568
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.640
and I didn't want I guess I was worried that

569
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:05.559
she would probably talk to me if I looked at

570
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.400
her in the eyes and she looked angry. She did.

571
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.360
She absolutely looked angry and not happy about being there,

572
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.760
and I didn't understand that either. But anyways, so I

573
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.079
want to hear and continue looking at her. She had

574
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.119
a little bit of hair on her cheeks. Her nose

575
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.960
was just a lot like how our nose would be.

576
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:28.039
I mean, it wasn't broad, it wasn't flat like a

577
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:33.039
lot of people described so yeah, but her nose was

578
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.199
just kind of like how a woman's nose would be.

579
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:40.000
Her shoulders were not very broad at all. They were wide,

580
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.440
kind of like, you know, just like how mine would be.

581
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:47.360
Her body was absolutely athletic. I mean, she looked like

582
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.599
a tennis player, you know, really lean absolutely no fat

583
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.000
on her at all. Her hair also, she didn't have

584
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.760
any hair on her face, but she the hair started

585
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.400
again just underneath the chin, and it was super short hair,

586
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:08.239
short black hair, and then it also stopped again once

587
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.239
it went down her to where the neck ended in

588
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:18.599
her her shoulder blades would be, and so that then

589
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:22.239
the hair ended there. The hair started it again on

590
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.800
kind of on the outer side of her ribs. That's

591
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.679
where the hair started again, and it tapered from being

592
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:32.840
really short hair into longer hair, kind of almost like

593
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.199
you would see with a dog on its face where

594
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.480
the hair could be shorter then tapers out longer on

595
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.400
say like a you know, on a I don't know,

596
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.760
a snauzer or something, you know. So it just almost

597
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.639
like it was meant just the hair flowed perfectly like

598
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.679
how it would on an animal. And her hands, her

599
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.800
arms were long. They were kind of hanging down. I

600
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.519
couldn't really see her knees because she had so much

601
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.519
hair on the lower part of her box and she

602
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:06.840
was standing up absolutely straight. But her hands were black.

603
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:09.719
And what was really weird about the hands is that

604
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.280
her fingers were longer than our fingers, but the same

605
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.960
proportions are as our fingers as far as length proportion,

606
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.960
except for that the fingers were actually longer and the

607
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.239
tips of the fingers tapered a lot more than our

608
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.079
fingers are a little more flat as we come to

609
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.519
the end of our finger but hers tapered, and then

610
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.280
her nails were rounded and black and really thick. Also

611
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.599
another thing is her thumb set back further than ours.

612
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.119
So if you look up like a chimpanzee's thumb, which

613
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.079
I've done before or since this, it looked very much

614
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.840
the same shape as like a chimpanzee's hand would be

615
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.280
with an imposable thumb. Her skin was thick and kind

616
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.760
of more leathery, and also on the back of the arms,

617
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.079
she was so thick and hair you couldn't see through.

618
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.559
The only part that you could see through was where

619
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:11.639
her skin was bare. So yeah, then when you look

620
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.800
down to her feet, her feet were probably about fifteen

621
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:18.599
inches long, and the hair stopped just like maybe half

622
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.960
in short of like the bottom of her foot, and

623
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.559
then her uh the hair also covered up probably to

624
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.719
the bridge of her foot, so just before the toes

625
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.039
started you could kind of re see where the toes were.

626
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:41.360
So after looking her over, I looked back up at her,

627
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:46.119
and when I made eye contact with her, in my

628
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:53.039
head loud and clear, was you see us now? And

629
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.079
I just was like, whoa, because you know, and so

630
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.679
I just naturally I just bowed my head and I

631
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.480
said in my mind, I said thank you, You're beautiful.

632
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.880
And then when I kind of looked back up, she

633
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.119
wasn't even in my living room or she was just gone.

634
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.000
Her whole the whole feeling, the whole error about her

635
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.960
and her you know, kind of uppity. She seemed very

636
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.519
upity and kind of angry. All of that was gone,

637
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.840
and my dogs are sitting there asleep, everything's normal, like

638
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.840
it had never happened. And so that was just an

639
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.320
amazing thing to have happened and a gift I felt,

640
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.280
even though she was angry, and it almost seemed to

641
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.760
me like she was kind of being forced to, you know,

642
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:52.320
do this. I don't know though, So then after that

643
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:59.199
I had this, I had this, well it was like

644
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:04.760
a real or like a video being put into my head.

645
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.559
So this would have been like probably, I don't know,

646
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:13.360
maybe nine months afterwards. So I get up in the

647
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.000
morning and it's like nine am in the morning, and

648
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:22.239
I'm out. Suddenly I'm sitting on my chair and suddenly

649
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.960
I'm out at Cottage Grove Lake, but it's at the

650
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.280
crack of dawn, and I'm like what. And so I'm

651
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.880
standing there looking overlooking the lake and I turn around

652
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:39.960
and I look back behind me, and I see some

653
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.559
green eyes coming out of the trees and it's almost

654
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.480
like the shadows of the trees just pulled out of

655
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:51.840
the trees. And it's this black sasquatch walking towards me

656
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:57.320
with green eyes. And instantly my heart's just pounding, and

657
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.079
he walks right up to me, and he walks just

658
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.719
past me, but he never puts his eyes on me.

659
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:11.559
And he turns around and he he uh. He stops

660
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:17.800
and he looks over at at the sun that's rising,

661
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.119
and it's really weird. What happened was this sort of

662
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.400
membrane mucus, well, like a membrane, like an eye membrane

663
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.480
comes out, but it comes out vertically off the side

664
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.599
of his eyes, and it comes out about maybe two

665
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.559
thirds of the way and it's kind of got it's white,

666
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:43.000
and it's got some gray squiggles in it, and I

667
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.119
can see the gray squiggles, and I could still see

668
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.760
the color of his eyes as I'm kind of looking

669
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.480
up at him because he's right next to me, and

670
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.360
his eyes grow from green to gold, and then that

671
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.480
membry retracts back and he's gold eyed looking at the

672
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:03.000
sun and he's all black. And then instantly I'm back

673
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:08.239
in my chair again, and I'm like, WHOA, that's weird,

674
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.440
because you know, it's nine o'clock in the morning, it's

675
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.960
not cracking on. That whole thing was just something that

676
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.880
was put into my head. And so that that I

677
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.880
was like, Wow, this is really amazing, and he was

678
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.000
just beautiful. He looked like some kind of a tightened

679
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.840
I mean, he looked he looked very very human, and

680
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.760
he was also all black, black skinned, black hair, and

681
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:40.199
so that was kind of cool. And then so I'm

682
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.360
trying to think here. So after all that, so about

683
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:48.800
a year and you know, I was really confused by

684
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:53.599
how that sasquatch came into my house, and so I

685
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.800
about a year and two months later, I ended up

686
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.679
having this sort of lucid dream where I was walking

687
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:05.480
out into the forest and our local forest and it's

688
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.239
a moonlit night and I'm walking through the trees and

689
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.920
the dream, and I come to this sort of circular

690
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.719
opening in the trees and I'm like, oh, so I stop,

691
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.559
and I kind of I look around into the woods

692
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.320
around me, and the moonlight's kind of pitched down into

693
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.440
this circle, and I see this darker area in the trees,

694
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.679
and all of a sudden, the sasquatch that was in

695
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:33.440
my house, that female was right there in my dream.

696
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.440
And I said, hey, how you doing, you know, and

697
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.320
she's like, oh fine. You know, we're kind of talking

698
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.800
in the dream, and I'm like, how did you come

699
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:44.000
into my house? How did you do that? I was

700
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.519
kind of asking her my dream, and she's like, oh, well,

701
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.079
when I came to your house, you know, because one

702
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.400
thing I noticed in the dream is that she seemed

703
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.800
much taller, same proportions as what I saw in my house,

704
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:01.000
except for in the dream she was bigger. She said, oh,

705
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.920
she goes, I was astra projecting myself so I could

706
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.719
fit into your house. And I was like, oh, okay,

707
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:11.239
you know, but so that was that was kind of

708
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:15.840
weird then, you know, it was just a dream, of course,

709
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.360
But you know, I don't know, maybe I was having

710
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.639
an outer body in my dream state. I don't know anyways,

711
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.360
So the next thing that kind of happened was so

712
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:30.239
it was twenty twenty. We're on lockdown, you know, and

713
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.639
I'm pretty depressed at this point. I'm like, the whole

714
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.559
world is coming to an end here, and you know,

715
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.079
I'm thinking, geez, you know, what's going to happen next?

716
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.559
Or grocery supply is going to go down? Are we

717
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.519
going to not be able to give food anymore? And

718
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.639
I'm just really worried about that. And all of a sudden,

719
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.320
you know, and I'm thinking about it to myself, Well

720
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.480
if that happens, how do I get food? You know,

721
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.159
I don't know how to hunt. And I'm like, I'm

722
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:57.960
going to have to carve a bow and arrow and

723
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.559
go out and try to kill something to eat it,

724
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.119
you know. And I was thinking that in my head.

725
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.679
That soft voice comes into my head and it says,

726
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.760
you know, with a real loving feel. It says to me,

727
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.760
we will never let you starve. And I thought, oh, okay,

728
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.639
well that's nice, and you know, whatever this is, it's

729
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.880
nice if they say that. So I don't know if

730
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.119
it was the next day or the day after that.

731
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.480
I can't quite remember, but I went out to the lake.

732
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.559
And when I went out there, you know, I was

733
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.000
standing down by the water and there was sort of

734
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:38.079
this boggy area that earlier in the spring I had

735
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:42.360
noticed just a little small, like oh maybe a three

736
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.440
foot area where it was kind of swampy, you know,

737
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.800
and I had noticed that, and I remember thinking back

738
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:51.599
in the spring. I remember thinking this would be a

739
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.280
great place to see a sasquatch track, right, And so

740
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.199
I but I'm down at the water and something it

741
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.239
comes into my head and says, you need to go

742
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.920
check out that boggy area. You might see a track.

743
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.280
And I'm like, huh, okay. So I turn and I

744
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.159
walk up to that boggy area, and sure enough, there's

745
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.719
a track there, a really defined, large track, right. So

746
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.440
I took some pictures out of I put my sample

747
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.599
next to it. I did. The track looks like it

748
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.360
looks like it was maybe done in the spring, because

749
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.400
the ground is hard now, so this track's been there

750
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.159
a while. You can see little plans starting to grow

751
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.599
up into the track, so you know, it's clearly you know,

752
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.679
going to go away pretty soon, you know, but it's

753
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:41.639
still really well defined.

754
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.960
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

755
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:06.440
Been. So I I'm like, well, you know, my intention

756
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.519
was to go walk over the dam, and that's I

757
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:11.440
was just kind of trying to get some extra steps in,

758
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:13.440
so that's kind of why I was in that area,

759
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.760
was just to keep a little extra steps and anyways,

760
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.159
so I thought, well, I better go ahead and walk

761
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.159
back up to the bike path. So I did walk

762
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.960
up to the bike path, and when I did, there

763
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.719
was all this grass between the bike path and London Road,

764
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.880
which is just up above maybe six feet above the path,

765
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:42.440
but in the long grass it was all compressed down

766
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.519
and I just froze because I'd been up to Glacier

767
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.719
National Park in the past and where the grizzly bears

768
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.159
lay down at night alongside the path, there was always

769
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.719
these huge flattened marks, so I knew some kind of

770
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.920
animal had had laid down there. But you know, we

771
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.440
don't have grizzly bear, and the biggest thing I think

772
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.280
we do have is an elk and that's the only thing.

773
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:11.000
A cougar is not that big either, or our black

774
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.760
bears are pretty small. So I'm like, what is this,

775
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.039
you know, And instantly I'm on high alert. So I

776
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:22.000
just freeze and suddenly it feels like all eyes are

777
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:26.679
on me, and I look up onto the road which

778
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:32.440
I can see, and there is a what looks like

779
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.199
a dog or a coyote. It kind of had a

780
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.559
natural look like it might have been a coyote or

781
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.000
a wolf or something, but it's I only see the body.

782
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:47.280
The head has been severed off. There's no blood dripping down,

783
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.039
but it looks like it was very instantly had been

784
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:56.280
done right there, like within minutes. And I just froze

785
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.800
when I saw that. I scared the academy, I mean,

786
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.480
and I just froze up, and I started looking around

787
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:05.679
me to make sure that there, you know, nothing was

788
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:11.639
coming at me, because I felt like heavily, heavily watched. Honestly,

789
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:15.360
I felt watched for maybe, like I don't know, like

790
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.960
a hundred feet away, like something was there, but it

791
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:21.880
wasn't right there. And I look at one of the trees,

792
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.039
and these are scraggly thin trees, right. I look at

793
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.159
one of the trees and I look over at another

794
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.840
and I hear a woodpecker, but I don't see a woodpecker,

795
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.119
So I'm assuming this woodpecker or staff sucker or whatever

796
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:39.239
that's pecking on a tree. It's on it must be

797
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.239
on the side of the tree that I can't see.

798
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.519
But instantly I'm like, okay, what I come here for

799
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.440
to walk over the dam? So I walked off and

800
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.519
I left it, you know, and I walked on, and

801
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:01.320
when I got home, I got this real heavy sad

802
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.760
feel and disappointment feel inside of me, and I'm like,

803
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.960
and I thought something left that. I think they left

804
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.639
it for me. When when I saw it, I thought

805
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.519
something had maybe just been feeding and I interrupted it

806
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.239
and I didn't know what it was, and so instantly

807
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.719
I thought I should get out of there. But then,

808
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.039
you know, so when I got that heavy feeling like

809
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.400
something was sad and disappointed and angry, definitely a male

810
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:33.960
masculine feel, is what it was, I just said to it,

811
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.280
I'm sorry. I know I was thinking that the other day.

812
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.000
I didn't. I was just worried about something. It's not

813
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.440
something that's actually happened. I don't need food, but thank

814
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:48.039
you for the gift, and when I need it. Now.

815
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.119
The weird thing about this, you know, I said, when

816
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.400
I need it, maybe I'll take it, you know, and

817
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.559
utilize the fur and you know, I mean I'm not

818
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:58.719
one to be above you know, trying to live if

819
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:03.960
I have to, you know. Anyways, but what was really

820
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:08.280
strange about that was, you know, parks and recreation and

821
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.119
lake management, you know, they always pick up you know,

822
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.599
dead kill, and you know, the sheriffs and the you

823
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.199
know police, they'll they'll pick up a roadkill and throw

824
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.599
it in the back of their car. Nothing touched this,

825
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.719
uh whatever, this dog coyote was. Nothing touched the carcass.

826
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.199
Bugs wouldn't even touch the carcass. That thing took six

827
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.400
months to degrade it in the sun on the side

828
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.800
of the road. Nobody touched it, No animal touched it.

829
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:41.880
And I just watched it for the rest of the

830
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:46.000
summer just disintegratee away until it was just a skin

831
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.880
sit in there. But it disintegrated away. It didn't get eaten,

832
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.159
nothing touched it. So that was just that was just

833
00:50:54.239 --> 00:51:02.599
the weirdest and the creepiest thing from there. But one

834
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:06.039
other thing that had happened to was it was a

835
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.079
couple of years ago, well probably like three years ago.

836
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:11.920
I went out for a walk. I like to walk

837
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.880
my neighborhood, you know, stay in shape and stay healthy.

838
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:18.559
And I walk down there's my house, and then it

839
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.519
goes down about six houses and it goes into open

840
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.199
fields up into the woods, you know, and these open

841
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.440
fields are really vast, they're big. And I'm walking down

842
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:33.199
the street and I see this big cut off tall

843
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.320
redwood tree right out in the field, and I'm like, what,

844
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.000
we don't have a redwood tree here. There's nothing here.

845
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.280
I walk this field every day and I'm like, okay,

846
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.880
that's weird. So I turn around, I walk off, and

847
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.400
I walk up to the next street, and I walk

848
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.239
down that street which goes to the open field, and

849
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.119
I look over and it's not there anymore. So that happened.

850
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.840
And then the very last thing that has happened to me,

851
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.960
or at least the most recent, was probably about a

852
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.400
couple of years ago. My friend and I were driving

853
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:13.039
up by Wildwood Falls and we were coming back and

854
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.719
the road's kind of winding and twisting, and so we're

855
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.880
going slow. She's driving and I'm in her car with her,

856
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:30.480
and I uh, I turn around and I well, I'm like, stop,

857
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:34.199
there's a fox. And my friend tore on our brakes

858
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.280
and what I saw on the passenger's side was a

859
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.159
wish air, and I thought, what is that? So I

860
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:48.480
instantly kind of relaxed, and I thought, huh, And so

861
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:50.559
I told her. I'm like, oh, I said, I must

862
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:52.880
have been mistaken. And she's like, oh, no worries, you know,

863
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:56.039
And so we continue driving gone. And so when I

864
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:59.480
got home, I thought that is so weird, and so

865
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.920
I just went ahead and I kind of got myself

866
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:06.599
into a relaxed state and kept watching it and repeating

867
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:10.440
it and repeating it, kind of like when I got hypnotized.

868
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.199
And finally I kind of see that air movement again.

869
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.239
I see it over and over again, and finally the

870
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.960
air their a hole kind of develops in the air,

871
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.440
you know, movement, and off the ground about twelve feet,

872
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.440
I see a little baby shoulder with red long red

873
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:34.360
kind of mahogany, you know, red like a red fox hair.

874
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.039
And so that was kind of I was, you know,

875
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:42.199
surprised to see that. So, you know, after I'd had

876
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.559
that sasquatch walk into my house, you know, it was

877
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.480
another year or two, you know, I don't know it

878
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.840
was two thousand and twenty one or twenty twenty two

879
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.280
now I think it was twenty twenty two. I saw

880
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.000
on Facebook that Doug Meachum had made a post and

881
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.360
he's a hypnotherapist and a friend of Ron Warhead's, and

882
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.360
he had made a post, Hey, if you think you've

883
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.800
had a sasquatch encounter or an alien encounter, please get

884
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:10.719
a hold of it, and I'd love to do a

885
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.800
regression and help you, you know, remember exactly what happened.

886
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.519
And he also, I think, helped out Toddney's and he's

887
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:24.159
also helped out Bob Gimlin. I guess he hypnotized Bob

888
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:27.920
Gilman on the Patty you know film, and so what

889
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.320
I would give to actually see that. I guess he

890
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.119
did it at a show and I would love to see,

891
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.239
you know what, or at least to hear, you know

892
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:39.119
what that was like for Bob Gimlin. That'd be cool.

893
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.119
But anyways, he helped toddne out too with his experience,

894
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.519
and so I went ahead and got a hold of

895
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:50.000
him and you know, went through hypnosis. So you know,

896
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.639
he had my whole body relax and I was in

897
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.480
his office and he had my whole body kind of

898
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.159
get into a deep, deep relaxation and then he walked

899
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:03.519
me back up to that two story Ford again from

900
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:07.079
when I was a kid, and I'm looking up and

901
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.800
of course I'm in a hypnotic state, and I'm like,

902
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:15.159
those are sasquatches. And there was four sasquatches, so they

903
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.920
were juveniles. There was the one right up above me

904
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.119
was a taller male, so I would guess he was

905
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.960
somewhere between probably four and a half feet and five

906
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.840
feet tall. And then there was next to him a

907
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:34.079
girl sasquatch who was shorter, and another girl that was

908
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.559
a little bit shorter than a little bit taller boy,

909
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.880
but not as tall as the first one. And the

910
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.760
boys were really obvious because I was directly underneath them.

911
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.480
The boy's shoulders had a lot of muscle, like they

912
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.679
were really developed, and the girls their shoulders were very slight.

913
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.559
I've seen enough pictures now that I know what a

914
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:58.079
sasquatch looks like. These these aren't aliens, because I had

915
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.480
always thought it was maybe an alien and because of

916
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:05.360
the missing time and you know, so and the amnesia,

917
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:09.519
which I didn't know what that was about. But I

918
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:15.719
think I have a better understanding now for that. But anyways, so,

919
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.880
but yeah, they're scared. Their mouths are in the shape

920
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.679
of an oh, they had. You know, if you get

921
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:26.320
a baseball mid and you you've had it for a

922
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:32.000
couple of weeks. Their skin was about that color, and

923
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.719
they had you know, they kind of looked mahogany reddish

924
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:41.039
mahogany kind of colored kind of but with a lot

925
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:45.400
of you know, kind of golden too too them. And

926
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.679
they all kind of had similar hair and similar color.

927
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.039
Their eyes were like the pupils of their eyes were

928
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:57.719
really wide, and then the iris was really thin around it,

929
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.840
and the iris was really light blue, and then there

930
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:05.199
was the light of their eyes. But they looked at

931
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:09.320
me very fearful. And then what ended up coming out

932
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.719
and hypnosis, And it took some time for this to

933
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:18.039
come out. But the taller one above me jumped down

934
00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:21.719
in front of me and he grabbed me by the shoulders.

935
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.000
But when he grabbed me by the shoulders, he had

936
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:26.920
his palms and his fingers straight. He just kind of

937
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.639
braced me with his hands on either side of my shoulder,

938
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.800
and he kind of squatted down in front of me,

939
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.920
and he put his face to my face, and I

940
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:43.440
looked down at his arm hair, and I could see

941
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.880
the arm hair going from really mahogany kind of in color,

942
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.039
and it faded out into the hair just hanging there,

943
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:56.119
faded out into the goldener chierer gold color, and he

944
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:59.280
looked at me and he screamed. He opened his mouth

945
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:05.800
wide and screamed at me, and it was a loud, shrill, shrill,

946
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:11.400
female sounding scream. And then he let go on my

947
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:15.079
shoulders and I just staggered backwards because of that sound,

948
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.840
and it just RICKI seted through my body. I can't

949
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:23.000
explain it, but it was such shock. I couldn't do anything.

950
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:27.039
And he let me go and I staggered backwards and

951
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:33.239
I fell flat on my bud and then he grabbed

952
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:37.400
the pole post of the ford and he took his

953
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.719
other hand and he punched the ground at me, like

954
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:42.360
to stay away from them, you know. It was kind

955
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.719
of what I got from that is that he didn't

956
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:47.920
want me to ever get too close like that. And

957
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.920
he turned around and he pulled himself with one arm

958
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.000
all the way up to the top level of that ford,

959
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:59.960
like a monkey would do. So that was just really weird.

960
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.800
But then I heard this rushing sound, just bulldozer sound,

961
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.920
through that greenway swath on the other side of the

962
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.199
railroad tracks, which ended in kind of a big BlackBerry

963
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:18.280
mound right and this male sasquatch on all fours comes

964
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:23.320
just bulldozing through that BlackBerry bush and he ends up

965
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:25.960
putting on the brakes right over the railroad tracks, and

966
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.440
the rocks underneath his fingers just flew up into the air,

967
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:36.079
and he just gowed at me, and he looked over

968
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:40.119
at After he growled at me, he looked over at

969
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.519
the children, and the children grabbed there a couple of

970
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.719
scraggly trees right there by the ford. They grabbed a

971
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.760
hold of the scraggly trees and got down and went

972
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.880
behind him and went back in the hole that he

973
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:56.039
had come out of. And they were kind of like

974
00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:59.360
on all threes as they were kind of moving off,

975
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:03.199
you know, on the ground. They kind of did it

976
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.679
in all threes. It kind of had the other hand

977
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.880
was kind of up in the air looking at me

978
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:13.800
like like they were scared. And then he looked after

979
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.280
they got all the way in, he made sure they

980
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.239
got all the way in, then he turned around and

981
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:21.440
he looked at me, and he kind of looked off

982
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:26.280
to the side and just went well, kind of huffing

983
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.679
like you stupid human, you got human child.

984
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.880
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

985
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:52.719
You got too close to us, you know, like he

986
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.840
was frustrated, like, uh, you're not worth it, you know,

987
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:59.599
you're not worth my time. And he turned around and

988
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.400
he on all fours and he turned around and he

989
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.000
walked back in the way he came from the Buckberries,

990
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:09.119
the way the kids went. And I just sat there

991
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:13.400
and Doug, you know, when he was there. So when

992
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.920
I got to experience that adult come an hour, I

993
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:22.039
started coming out of hypnosis or you know, being really relaxed,

994
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.679
and Doug's like, hey, step outside your body and watch

995
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:28.840
what happens. That way you don't have to experience is

996
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.559
so close, and so I did, and then I was

997
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:34.360
able to stay nice and relaxed and kind of finish

998
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:41.360
up the experience and anyways, so you know, I sat

999
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.400
there for a while and finally I got the wherewithal

1000
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:49.320
and started standing up again. And I stood up and

1001
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.000
I started walking back to my house and I stop,

1002
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:57.519
and sure enough, that horrible, rushing feeling comes. The world

1003
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:01.599
feels really big around me. There's a strange feeling. I

1004
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:05.960
go into my house, I don't recognize my parents. When

1005
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:07.840
we go to pick up my brother, or sister, I

1006
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:11.320
don't recognize them. My memories all come back to me.

1007
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.679
But the amnesia I think was just due to severe shock.

1008
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:24.159
So so yeah, that's been my experiences.

1009
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:30.840
That that is a fascinating account, My goodness, because wow, yeah,

1010
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.159
I so listeners. I didn't know a lot about this

1011
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:40.039
going into it, and it's just so fascinating. I do

1012
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.360
have a few questions, if that's all right.

1013
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:45.199
Oh yeah, So.

1014
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.400
Regarding the sas question that came into your home, which

1015
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:57.039
is very interesting at that time, did you have any

1016
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.719
any home security system in your home at all?

1017
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.519
No? And the whole time my phone was right next

1018
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:09.559
to me on my table. End I never I mean,

1019
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:13.199
like when you meet someone for the first time and

1020
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.519
I gotta say this, how rue would it be to

1021
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:17.199
pick up your phone and take a baiture? Oh?

1022
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:17.960
Absolutely? Yeah.

1023
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:20.719
And it felt the same way. It felt like someone

1024
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.199
was introducing themselves to me. She didn't seem happy about it,

1025
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.840
but you know, she was introducing herself to me. There

1026
01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:28.400
was no way I was going to pick up my phone,

1027
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:31.000
and no way I even thought about it. You know,

1028
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:33.840
no home security other than my dogs.

1029
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.639
And you hear that, you know so many times I

1030
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:38.920
haven't been able to experience myself yet, but you do

1031
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:40.920
hear that a lot is that, you know, even if

1032
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:44.000
the person did have a phone with them, it's just

1033
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.199
the magnitude of what's happening is so great that they

1034
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.559
don't even you know, think of it. So it totally

1035
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.400
totally makes sense. Have you seen the Patterson Gemlin film before?

1036
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.400
Oh yeah, you know, I the first time. So my

1037
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:00.880
parents had given me a book that had like the

1038
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:05.719
Lockness Monster and had a still picture of Patty, you know,

1039
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:09.440
just a photo of her. But I was twelve by

1040
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.599
the time I saw her, so you know, I was

1041
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.199
much a little bit older, definitely older than when the

1042
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.920
Patterson film had been filmed. But when I saw her,

1043
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:23.960
I remember thinking, oh my god, they live in our woods,

1044
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:29.079
you know, but beyond thinking that, you know, because I thought, well,

1045
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.480
if it's in northern California, it's going to be an Oregon,

1046
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:35.119
you know, because our woods are even thicker than down there,

1047
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:40.639
you know, and impenetrable, you know. But then you know,

1048
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:42.760
like I said, you know, I grew up fishing doing

1049
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.960
all that stuff, and you know, being out and playing

1050
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.000
by creeks and never once ever saw anything, so you know,

1051
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:50.880
it was pretty much quickly out of my mind.

1052
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:57.199
Again, did what you saw in your house that day?

1053
01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:59.800
Did it remind you of Patty at all? Or was

1054
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:03.239
it such a completely different figure?

1055
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:08.280
I would say completely different. You know, Patty's built like

1056
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:12.119
a large refrigerator, you know, so she was. She was

1057
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:16.280
clearly built more like a human, but taller. But she

1058
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.559
was built just like a human other than her breast

1059
01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:21.559
seemed different, and her hands seemed different, and her feet

1060
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:24.079
seemed different, and of course her face was very different.

1061
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.719
Her face was scary because you know, her mouth went

1062
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.960
from cheek to cheek, and she had really thin lips,

1063
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.519
and thank god her lips were shut because I would

1064
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.760
have I don't know if I could have handled sea teeth,

1065
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.960
you know. But she also her eyes were like from

1066
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:43.199
the bridge of her nose all the way to the

1067
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.320
edge of the side of her head, so her eyes

1068
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:51.280
were super long, and her pupils of her eyes were

1069
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.000
vertical like a cat, which gave her a very much

1070
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.840
a predator look. And then just that glowing blue where

1071
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.719
everything it was like a you know, like how you'd

1072
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:05.199
see the blue on an electronics you know, like a

1073
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:11.039
stereo or microwave or something. It was that color of blue,

1074
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.800
and they were self illuminized.

1075
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:19.159
Which is extremely interesting if you think of other reports.

1076
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:23.119
There's there's a lot of similarities, but there's also some

1077
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:27.840
some new information as well. After you had that encounter,

1078
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:33.000
have you ever seen anything that is close to what

1079
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:36.320
you saw that day in your house, like any representations

1080
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:36.920
or anything.

1081
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:43.559
I thought in the book, in David Plotti's book The

1082
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:49.119
Hoopa Village, there is an Indian girl who David said,

1083
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:52.559
you know, he didn't Harvey Pratt, I guess drew a

1084
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:58.199
picture of this sasquatch and it's in that book, and

1085
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:03.679
he I think it's in the Tribal Bigfoot book, I

1086
01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:07.880
think anyways, but it's like three quarters of the way

1087
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:11.400
through the book. But it's this this Indian girl, Angrid

1088
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:15.880
something her name, and I'm probably saying it wrong. She

1089
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:20.480
had an encounter where she saw saskatch with vertical eyes

1090
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.119
as well, and David said he wouldn't have put it

1091
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:28.199
in the book, but he said she was so convincing

1092
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.960
to him anyways that he said he felt it was

1093
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:34.599
worth going in and putting her account in. Harvey Pratt's

1094
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:38.039
picture in there. And when I saw that, and I

1095
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:40.000
flipped to that. When I was reading that book, my

1096
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:44.039
heart stopped. It just stopped because those were the same eyes.

1097
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:47.239
The face is wider than the one I saw. The

1098
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:49.360
one I saw I had more of a narrower face,

1099
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:55.599
but the eyes were the same eyes, and it made

1100
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:56.280
my heart stop.

1101
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:00.679
Well, it took me right back. That's really interesting.

1102
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:05.559
You did, Yeah, yep, that did. I thought I'm not

1103
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:07.199
the only one.

1104
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:10.880
There's a you know, we've talked about Cottage Grove, but

1105
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:19.479
also areas past Durana Lake. There's another area down there

1106
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:21.880
that comes up every once in a while and emails

1107
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:23.760
and stuff. And I'm just curious if you had any

1108
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:27.520
you heard anything, or if you've been down there, if

1109
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.880
you are you familiar with the Sharp's Creek area at all.

1110
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:36.640
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I had a strange experience there too.

1111
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:41.720
I remember, well, I went up there and I crossed

1112
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.439
over the first bridge there and I just parked my

1113
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.880
car and kind of walked through the gate and I

1114
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:50.119
started walking down this gravel road that's towards you know,

1115
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.239
the woods there, and there's a bunch of BlackBerry mounts too,

1116
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:55.960
which you have to be cool careful around here because

1117
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.680
cougars like to get into BlackBerry mounts, so you gotta

1118
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.239
be kind of careful because they tend to hide out there,

1119
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:08.199
you know. And so I saw all these BlackBerry mounds,

1120
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:13.720
but I started getting this horrible negative feeling and I

1121
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.800
just thought, nope, I'm not going that way. You know,

1122
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:21.600
there was it was an oppressive negative feeling, and so

1123
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:25.079
I thought, well, okay, so I'm gonna walk back on

1124
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:27.680
the other side of Sharp's Creek, just kind of through

1125
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:29.840
these open fields, because I wanted to look at Sharp's

1126
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.640
Creek not from the road, but from the other side

1127
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.560
of the creek. And so I started walking that way. Well,

1128
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:38.880
I took a picture of the woods where I was

1129
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.439
getting that feeling from, and I went home and I

1130
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:46.960
changed the filter one filter and it's basically, you know,

1131
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:50.840
like a blob squatch, you know picture, But there is

1132
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:54.760
something there with ice that you can see kind of glowing.

1133
01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:00.560
So I don't know, it's a vague picture, and it

1134
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.359
could be a bear, it could be anything. It could

1135
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.079
just be a trick of the lights, you know, as

1136
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:08.800
far as I'm concerned. But I mean, that was my experience.

1137
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:12.520
And so I took my brother and my sister in

1138
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:14.560
law there and I'm like, you know, man, there's something

1139
01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:16.680
negative here. And so I took them there and we

1140
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:21.319
walked up there and my brother he's ex military and

1141
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.760
he's not afraid of anything, you know, and he's like, man,

1142
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.960
I can feel it too. You know. This is bad.

1143
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:31.880
Whatever that is is bad, you know. And I'm like yeah.

1144
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:36.840
And then it was weird because my friend, they're from Alaska.

1145
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:38.640
I took her or she was the one I was

1146
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.760
up at Wildwood with. I took her up there and

1147
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:46.640
the gate was open over the road, and so we

1148
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:48.800
went up there and I walked over and I told her, yeah,

1149
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:50.960
this is where I had that bad feeling of something.

1150
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:54.520
But that particular day, there was no bad feeling at all,

1151
01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:58.520
and it was like, Okay, whatever it is is gone.

1152
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.880
And then some come up on the road with a

1153
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.319
truck full of wood, you know, and that's why the

1154
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.600
gate was open, and so we had to move our

1155
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:10.119
car and you know, and I didn't walk back there anyways.

1156
01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:13.079
I just, you know, after that one time, there's no

1157
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:14.880
way I was going to walk back into those trees.

1158
01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:16.039
I won't risk it.

1159
01:11:16.039 --> 01:11:19.319
It's a very interesting area. I get a lot of

1160
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:24.479
emails about encounters by Sharp's Creek and I've even talked

1161
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:28.560
to at least one landowner in that area, and there's

1162
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:34.520
definite activity in that area. Listeners have also experienced anything.

1163
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:36.720
Feel free to reach out. But I have just two

1164
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:41.680
more questions for you in it, and I really thankful

1165
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.399
for all the time that you're able to spend with

1166
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:49.560
us today. Going back to the Blair campground part of

1167
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.319
your account, do you remember the next morning getting up,

1168
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:57.680
did you happen to see any footprints or anything around

1169
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:01.680
the tent or anything that would show that there were pace?

1170
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:06.520
You know what, I wish that I would have known

1171
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:09.680
what I knew now about that. I totally would have

1172
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:12.720
explored or even looked up on that incline to see

1173
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:16.760
if I see anything, But no, I wanted out of

1174
01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:18.640
there and I wanted to pack up my dan. I

1175
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:21.560
didn't even look around. We didn't have breakfast, we didn't

1176
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.119
do anything. We just got out of there.

1177
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:25.880
Yeah, makes makes total sense.

1178
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.600
Yeah, and my husband. I never told my husband about

1179
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.479
it because he was you know, he was a Christian.

1180
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:36.079
My first husband was now my current husband. He'd be like, yeah,

1181
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:37.760
you know, we could talk about it, you know, because

1182
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:41.319
we're totally open. But in that marriage things were different

1183
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.560
you know, we were real estate investors and we were

1184
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.760
just like, now, our heads weren't in the game on

1185
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:47.239
that one.

1186
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:52.640
You know, totally get it. Last one is just the

1187
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:57.720
curve ball, just for fun to ask people that are

1188
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:00.800
familiar with this area. And you mentioned and Oak Ridge

1189
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.920
and Odell Lake and all that, So have you ever

1190
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.760
heard anything about the there's a lake called Spirit Lake.

1191
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.760
Have you ever heard anything weird happening there? Or have

1192
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:12.439
you been there?

1193
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:18.880
Uh? No, No, I have never been there. And I've

1194
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:21.119
heard you mentioned it on your on your shows because

1195
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:25.399
I listen, but no, I don't. I'm not even sure

1196
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.960
where that's located. There there is a lake that's up

1197
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.920
off the Mackenzie that has been known to be a

1198
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:37.760
place where you see balls of light, and I read

1199
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.560
in this book about it being a place where you

1200
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.199
people have bigfoot encounters. And I remember when I this

1201
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.279
was when I was in my twenties and I was

1202
01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:49.079
in super at that time. I was I was really

1203
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:51.359
doing a lot of athletic stuff, so I was really

1204
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:54.600
in shape. And my boyfriend at that time, he was

1205
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:59.439
he was a you know, national badminton player, and we

1206
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:01.439
went for a hike up there at that lake and

1207
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:04.039
I went in knowing that it had this lake had

1208
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:07.880
this reputation, and I don't want to mention it just

1209
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.920
because I think it's probably important to the Bigfoot people,

1210
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:16.960
you know, for them. But anyways, we started hiking and

1211
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.960
it was really kind of a decline, at least the

1212
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:25.119
first part of the trail going down to the lake. However,

1213
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.199
I felt like my leg's weighed a thousand pounds. I

1214
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:33.520
felt so fatigued, and it was unusual, and I'm like, man,

1215
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:37.680
maybe I'm getting sick. And I asked my boyfriend. He's like, yeah,

1216
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:39.840
you know, I just feel the same way. We were

1217
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.720
going to hike past the lake and you know, go

1218
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:45.279
up into the woods, and we had this whole planned

1219
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:47.920
thing out and we just ended up turning around and

1220
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.439
walking back out and we were so terribly fatigued. But no,

1221
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:55.039
the Spirit Lake, I now I want to go after

1222
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:56.079
I've heard what you said.

1223
01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:01.600
Yeah, well, definitely looked look out for sasquatch with with

1224
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:06.359
dreadlocks because that's where they are. Uh one of the.

1225
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.000
Cool to see one, Yeah, be cool to see one

1226
01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.319
with dreadlocks too.

1227
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.319
That's that's true. Actually, Yeah, the.

1228
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.880
Ones I see always had smooth hair. They didn't. They

1229
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:17.199
didn't have dreadlocks at all.

1230
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.199
It's it's very very interesting when you I think I've

1231
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:26.239
gotten that two different times, something where someone mentions something

1232
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:29.079
that looks like dreadlocks, but and that it has been

1233
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:33.520
just a fascinating conversation. Thank you for sharing, uh, the

1234
01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:38.840
difference of your experiences over the years. If anything else

1235
01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:42.159
does happen, you know, feel free to reach out. But uh,

1236
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:44.399
it's just been a pleasure chatting with you today.

1237
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.840
Thank you some awesome You have a wonderful day.

1238
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:50.720
I just wanted to take a few minutes to say

1239
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.800
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1240
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:57.600
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1247
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:21.920
you've had a bigfoot encounter related to the following, or

1248
01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:25.960
know someone who has, please reach out to me at

1249
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:29.439
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my

1250
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:35.520
email here's a list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1251
01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:41.199
McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1252
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.039
the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

1253
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.520
see you back next time. Listeners. SASA Summerfest this year

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