You See Us Now! | Oregon

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get on with the show, all right, Pick for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Annette today. Net's a listener that reached out to me about some things she's experienced over the years, and she's from Cottage Grove, Oregon.

0:49 Welcome to the show today, and att how's it going. Thanks, I'm doing good, glad to be here. Absolutely, I've been waiting to talk to you for quite a while. Always, you know, there are certain areas that you know, I really like to hear about in this area of Oregon is one of my favorites as listeners. Know, I have, you know, a lot of episodes from out in this area. But I'm going to go ahead and let's pass things right over to you so you have the time to share what you've experienced over the years, and feel free to take us back to when this all started to happen for you. Okay, Well, when I was young, I was like maybe three going on four years old. We were living up in Portland, Oregon, and we were really you know, Portland wasn't quite as developed as it is today, obviously because it was nineteen sixty nine, but we lived pretty close to downtown Portland, Oregon, and really all the ards kind of went right off these railroad tracks kind of uphill, so all the yards kind of descended down. And it was the summer of nineteen sixty five and all the kids and me were and my older brother's sister were playing down at this two story fort and the fort was in the backyard about two houses down. So there was our house, and then there was another house, and then the next house had the fort that was in

2:21 the backyard that sort of declined down, and then the fort was almost just right to where the railroad trucks were, you know, but up in the yard, and then the railroad tracks kind of came down, and on the other side of the railroad tracks was just a bunch of green ways with lots of fruit trees and blackberries and you know, just kind of a green swath of land. So well, it was in the fall, and all the kids had returned to school, and I being three, kind of going on four, because I don't remember exactly the date that, you know, I'm born in the fall, and so I don't remember if I was four or three.

3:05 But anyways, my parents we were moving out of our house and we were moving to another house in Portland, and they had a couple friends of theirs over and they were kind of packing stuff up, and they had explained to me that that we were moving. And I knew about moving because it wasn't our first move that we'd made earlier in my life, we'd also moved to Portland because I'm from Eugene. So anyways, so they had explained that to me, and both the front door and the back door was open, and I decided to sneak out the back door because I really wanted to see that fort one last time, because I knew that, you know, more likely I would never see it again. And so I snuck out the back door and I walked through the side yard and up to the sidewalk, and I walked down to the ford. And when I got to that backyard, you know, I wasn't too stable on my feet at that age, so I was really just looking down at the ground, making sure that I didn't fall or trip or anything like that. And so I'm staring at the ground and I walk up to the fort or down well, I was walking down the yard to the ford, and I get to the base of the ford and I look up and I see these hair covered beings standing at the top level of the ford.

4:33 And let me explain the ford a little bit. It was an open framed ford with two levels. One was down low where I was standing, and it, you know, had poles to hold the ford up, and then there was a second level up above that was open, and then it had a ladder connecting the two on the back side of it. But I was looked up and there was these hair covered beings and they were they huddled together, and they seemed kind of scared of me. They weren't very tall. They were taller than me, but they weren't like real large or anything like that, you know, or an adult size, you know, they were They looked somewhere between my height and an adult side, maybe the tallest being at five feet or so. But so I looked up and I saw them, and they seemed to be, you know, really scared of me. And in my mind, I'm just like, what is this? You know, what are they?

5:38 And then you know, I was thinking in my head, well, wait, you know, they don't look like a monkey. They don't look like an ape, you know, mutual mohall. You know, we used to watch that as a family, and you know, while Kingdom. And also another thing was nineteen sixty eight, the movie planeted Eats had come out, and I remember thinking, wait, is that movie real? And then I thought, yeah, but they don't look at all like the characters in that movie either, And so I didn't know. And the weird part was is that I experienced missing time. After that.

6:19 There was no other memory other than looking up at these beings. And the next thing I remember, I'm up on the sideway sidewalk at that house in between the two houses, and I'm looking at my house and I feel like the whole world is rushing, like I kind of get this huge head rush or feel like the world's kind of I don't know. It was a really strange physical feeling, and suddenly the whole world just felt larger than life, you know. And so I walked home and you know, the front door and the back door doors still open, you know. And so I walked in the front door and I didn't know who my parents were, but my dad, you know, saw me. He's like, there you are, you know. He comes over and he picks me up, and he puts me on the fire hearth and they rolled up the rug, you know, our living room rug, and my mom gave me a loving smile, and I just remember being so grateful that they were my parents, you know. And anyways, so that was that.

7:24 We ended up that day moving to another house in Portland. And the wird thing about this experience is that I never it was so impactual for me that I never forgot about it. Every day it came to my mind, and over like fifty three years, by the time I went to a hypno therapist to try to regress, to figure out what really happened. You know, I think the memory faded. I could I couldn't remember how many beings there were, you know, things I did well, A couple of things. I remember that they had lighter colored skin, and I seem to have remembered sort of a reddish orange hair and a golden retriever gold colored hair, And later on that kind of comes into play as to why I remembered that. So life went on after that, and we'll kind of come back to that. But the next thing, you know, I grew up fishing and going up fishing up in the Cascades and up at Odell Lake.

8:33 My dad kept his boat up there, and as kids we went out into the woods a lot and never saw anything. And I got into my thirties and I was married to my first husband, and you know, it's a little background. He had a lot of problems with in insomnia, and he would always fall asleep at like, you know, nine or ten, and then wake up at like one in the morning and stay up until four in the morning, and then would fall back asleep. But what our plans were this particular day, we'd gotten off work and we were going to go into Eastern Oregon. But we were looking for a place just to go camping, you know, on the way to eastern Oregon. And I actually did that a lot in my you know, thirties or so. So we went up to uh Oak Ridge and we were just looking for a place to go camping.

9:30 And I think the place was Salt Creek Falls, where there's like three camping spots that kind of overlooked these waterfalls. And I had my dog with me, but my dog was never really good with other dogs. And when we got up there there campsite, there was one that was available, but there was two other people that had three pitbulls that were off leash, and I thought, my dog's gonna not get along. And my dog was a corgy saw you know, he's smaller, and I thought, I just don't need any incident like this. So I pulled out my handy map and decided to go further up towards Blair Lake.

10:10 So we drive on that logging road and we just keep driving and driving, and it was like I think twenty four or twenty five miles up on that logging road, and you know, it was afternoon by the time we'd gotten at least to Salt Creek Falls. But now it's getting later and we find this little campground that well, I thought it was Blair Lake, but I later learned that it wasn't. It was someplace maybe close to Blair Lake, but it wasn't Blaurir Lake. But it was right off the logging road and it was this little, tiny kind of pond like lake that had several campsites around it. Very rudimentary, and that was fine because you know, we just wanted to stay the night and get up at the krack of dawn and leave again to get out to eastern Oregon. So I was camping there and we didn't make a fire. We just went into our tents.

11:03 And one of the things that I was really concerned about was that all around the lake there was these blue huckleberry bushes and all huckleberries were just ripe. And I was like, oh no, because you know, black bear like huckleberries. And I was like, shoot, I don't want a bear coming into camp. And I remember kind of looking down the logging road and the sun was starting to set and I'm like, jeez, we can't make it back down. You know, this isn't a safe spot to camp and so I remember kind of having those thoughts and being concerned that way. So we didn't make a campfire, and we just went in and crawled into our tents and went to bed because we were going to get up at the crack of dawn to get back on the road again. And that night, at about one forty, I woke up and I had to go to the bathroom, so I kind of sit up in my sleeping bag and I hear, so there's the logging road, and where we were camping RD off the logging road, so the car was really just behind me. But also on the other side of the logging road was an incline up on a hill that was probably about sixty to seventy degrees incline going up. And so I'm sitting in my tent and I hear coming down that incline, what I thought was maybe a small herd of elk, and I've been around elk herds before, but this sounded like just

12:35 a couple two, three, four or five I don't know elks right coming off the hill. And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, well, they'll kind of part and pass the tent, you know, And then I can get out and go to the bathroom. But there was sort of a hesitation at the logging road when the elk got to the logging road, and then there was just kind of a moment of silence, and then all of a sudden, three bipedal beans, heavy heavy bipedal beans came walking towards my tent. One went on one side of my tent, one went on the other side of my tent, and one went just kind of on the curvature of the water. And weirdly enough, I'm sitting there going what is this? Because they started piecing from one foot to the other foot, and I mean it's right right outside of where I'm sitting up in my tent, you know, and so and the other ones on the other side of the tent, and they get in sync with each other on the kind of going from one foot to another.

13:40 And every time they make a step like the earth moves, that's how heavy they whatever it is is. And at the time, you know, I didn't have big foot in my head at all, so I'm thinking, why is there elk sitting there on four feet and they're doing that with their back legs, you know. So that's what I'm thinking it is, but I'm thinking that's really weird behavior. And anyways, this went on for well, I don't know if I just kind of got mesmerized because I felt like I was being rocked in a cradle because they were all in sync with each other. But then I h at about twenty in the morning, I'm sitting there still, and I realized, wait, they've stopped, and I'm like, I didn't hear them walk off, or i didn't hear the elk walk off, and I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.

14:40 It's something just standing outside my tent, and I'm like, and I really have to go to the bathroom. Big for Society will be right back after these messages. And so I'm like, there is no way I'm getting out of my tent. And so I just was like, Okay, I'm just going to lay down here, and I did a little prayer to God and said, please God, let me sleep till daylight, you know, so I could get up and go to the bathroom. And so sure enough, I instantly fall asleep and morning comes. It's five point thirty and it's daylight, and I get up and you know, my husband wakes up and he's like, you know, man, I've never slept so great in my whole life. And I'm like, yeah, you know. And I never said anything to him about my waking up or anything, and I just I quickly wanted to pack up and get the heck out of there, and that's exactly what I did.

15:53 So that was kind of that encounter. And I kind of forgot to mention before that I might have been more in my twenties at that age. I had gone up towards Oak Ridge with a boyfriend of mine and we had his parents's two Golden Retrievers and we both worked that day in the morning and we were going to go out into eastern Oreon once again. And we stopped at this little campground and I can't remember the name of it, and I have no idea this had to do with Bigfoot. It was just a weird experience. But so we'd stopped at this campground and it had maybe nineteen spots, you know, fifteen spots, I don't know.

16:36 It was a really small campground. No one else was there. Highway fifty eight was right by it, and it was about three o'clock in the afternoon, and we thought, oh, you know, let's take a little bit of a nap. That was going to stay up by the campfire and enjoy the campfire tonight, so we'll just take a little bit of a nap. So we took the two Golden Retrievers, Roxy and Charlie, and we tied them up to the pig snake table because we didn't want them wandering up onto Highway fifty eight. And so we tied them up to the picnic table with some nylon rope and we just tied it to their collars and then tied them to the picnic tables and that way they, you know, could stay safe while we took a quick nap. And so we took our nap, but about an hour nap and we got up and I couldn't believe it. We got out of the tent and the dogs are just running around the campsite and so I walk over and I look, and the nylon rope has been cut, I mean cut like with a knife. It looks like, you know, it's a real sharp, clean cut. And they're just wandering around waiting for us to get up. And thank god, they didn't go up onto the road. But there's nobody in the campsite, and we didn't. I'm sure I would have woke up if a car had pulled in. So that was really weird. We you know, we went in and stayed there that night, but I kind of, I remember kind of looked in the woods and kept thinking, is somebody watching us? You know? Was there some person that maybe's living up in the woods. It was just

18:07 trying to give us a message that we weren't alone. So that was also kind of a weird time out in the woods. So moving on, So it was probably about maybe eight or nine years ago, and I had gone up to Bryce Creek and I had just moved out here to Cottage Grove, so I wanted to go up to Bryce Creek. I'd been up there before, but it's a pretty hard trail to kind of climb. It's not hard if you're in shape, but at that time I was really really out of shape. And so and the reason I wanted to go up there was I had this little dog that it was a rescue dog from San Francisco and there was a whole kind of story that went with her why she was rescued out of that city, and she was around the homeless camp and it was kind of sad, and I wanted her to see the woods, you know, and so that was my intention to go there. So I get up to the parking lot and so I thought, you know, I'm just gonna walk up the creek here because I'm not gonna go over to the trailhead because that's a lot of up and down, a lot of climbing. I thought I can just walk up the creek a little bit.

19:24 And so the moment though I stepped out of the parking lot and into the creek, I got this horrible feeling that something was very very angry at me, and it was towering over me. And I didn't have a weapon. I just had me and my little dog. And my dog she is looking back behind me or kind of off to the side of me, and behind me was sort of like this whole hedge of like Laurel and vine may bow and I don't know what else for plants, but basically it was like a hedge. It was maybe like six or seven feet tall, right, and I felt like something was watching me, but I couldn't see anything, but my dog is looking behind me at where I can feel something looking at me, and so I turned my back on it, and in my mind, I just said, you know, back off from me now. Because I was scared and I didn't know what else to do. I said, back off for me. This isn't going to end well for either you or me. And I just said that in my head, and then I kind of was like, well, you know, I started kind of talking to it, and I said, listen, the only reason I'm here is, you know, because of this dog. I want her to see how beautifuful the forest is. She comes from a big city

20:54 where she's only known concrete, and I wanted to just see the woods. And so I'm like so, and so what I did was I went ahead and I looked up to where I wanted to walk too, and I said, in my mind, I said, this is where I'm going to walk, and I kind of shot at a picture and I said, I will turn around at this point and come back. And so I started walking. But my dog will not quit looking behind me as I'm walking, and I feel whatever, this thing that's angry and mad and large is behind me. I keep kind of stealing glances, but I see nothing but that hedge, right, and the worst thing I didn't want to see was some kind of eyebles looking out of that hedge, because that would have freaked me out, you know. And so but my dog keeps looking and I'm trying to distract her. And she's been really good because she is you know, when I distract her, she's doing kind of what I say.

21:56 I grab a stick and I play with her in the water a little bit and shore this stick and kind of point to some trees with her, and she looks at those trees. But then she looks back behind me, right, you know, she does that, and we kind of make our way up. I have to climb over some logs and stuff. We make my way up to that point where I said I would turn back, and I kind of stretched and I looked up the creek and it was so beautiful in the forest, and I stretched and I thought, God, I could just walk here forever. And I had this horrible bolt of dread shoot through my body and then it was gone. That bolt of dread, just it was a feeling that came through me, and then it was gone. And I thought, yes, I thought I was talking to some I'm a person in my word, I will turn around, I won't continue and so I turned around and I went in and walked back to where the parking lot started. And the weird part about that was, you know, the whole time I felt walked.

23:00 When I was playing with my dog in the water and I kind of put the stick in the water, the feeling of anger from whatever this being was, I could feel suddenly kind of like a curiosity from it, a little bit like it was curious as to why I would like a dog. What this didn't make sense to whatever this creature was, why I would even have any regards for a dog. I kind of had that feeling, so I could feel its emotions change. But also when I got back up to the parking lot, the moment I stepped foot onto the gravel parking lot and got both my feet onto that gravel, the feeling of being washed was totally gone and everything felt like normal. So I went from being intensely watched the whole time to suddenly there's nobody watching me in the parking lot felt fine.

23:58 So I walked back to my car and left and didn't really think too much of it, and then I started I think the first thing I kind of noticed at home was I noticed underneath my husband's truck. There was two gardener snakes that were kind of shaped into the shape of a figure eight, like infinity, and then they were pinched off and killed in the center, like they pinched the center of the eight and left that in my driveway, and I thought, oh god, you know, and you know, that's kind of creepy and scary, and you know, so I never picked it up, and it just ended up kind of getting dry and kind of you know that sort of thing. I don't know, it just got old and dried, and I never did anything.

24:50 I did start getting weird rocks showing up in the pea gravel in my backyard, you know, just just rocks, you know that. But there were rocks that you know, and I'm a toll rock person and I have baskets of rocks and stuff, but none of them were rocks that I had. So there were things that were being introduced into my backyard so that there were pretty rocks. I'd just pick them up and you know, put them in my basket or bring them in the house. You know. It was nice. So and I definitely started kind of looking more into sasquash at that point because I just kept thinking what was that in the woods. You know, one night though, I it was late at night and I was thinking about everything, and I just thought, oh, and Nitt, you're just crazy. These things don't exist. You're just you need to get your life back in order.

25:42 You need to kind of get back into you know, helping people. And not that I wasn't helping people, but you know, get serious. Quit thinking about this, quit watching these shows, quit thinking that this stuff exists, and you know, get your act together. There's there's never been anything like this, and it doesn't exist. And so I went to bed, and the next day I was I had the day off, and I was playing a video game and I had half my headphones on, so I was listening to the video game, but you know, I had an ear out for if somebody knocked on the door or whatever. And I heard this loud kaboom on top of my house, like something landed or fell on my house. And then I heard boom, boom, and it ran off my house.

26:32 My dogs went berserk. The dogs going all the way down to the street to the huge open fields went berserk. Every house went berserk of the animals. So I know it wasn't just me. I heard that, and so I ran into the front yard. I threw my headphones off, you know, ran through my house, ran to the front yard, and when I got to the front yard, I kind of heard in my own head, you know, just sort of my own voice, a soft way, say, come to the field, you'll see us. And I was like, I don't care about that. I'm worried about my roof of my house. At the time, I had foundation issues with my house and I hadn't had that repaired yet, and so now I'm thinking I've got a broken roof because the way it hit was so hard. So I ran back in the house random, you know, out the slang glass door, looked up at my roof, and there's no sign of anything being up on my roof. There's no footprints, there's no cracked roof. I would have thought, for as hard as it had landed, that my beam of my house would have been carved in. It was that hard of how it landed, almost like it got dropped from some I don't know, flying saucer or a plane, or at least someone had jumped out a plane or something. Anyways, So but yeah, I never went back out to the field or pursued it at all, but all the dogs reacted, you know, in the neighborhood. So that was it was

28:06 kind of like, we're here. Don't doubt us, you know. But so so after that, what had happened was so it was twenty nineteen and a friend of mine, well a person that I knew. I knew it from a friend of a friend. Apparently they had had a sasquatch, they had a sighting, and I was so jealous. They had moved up here from California, and I was mad because I'm like, I'm from Ore again. I'm the one that should have a sighting, not them, you know. So I have to admit I was really pretty jealous, and I was thinking about it, and I was I went through all kinds of emotions over the issue because I thought, you know, darn it, you know, I should have spent more time out this summer in the woods. Maybe I would have seen one. I should have done that, I should have done this, you know. So you know, I had a job in Eugene, and so I was commuting back and forth, and I would always kind of take the scenic route through the woods, and every time I kind of got towards the woods that I you know, kind of had a voice that came into my head.

29:23 I figured it was just my self talking to myself, but it's like, hey, and n it. You know, if you could see a big foot, what kind of siding do you want to see? You know? And I'm like, geez, I don't know, you know. And I thought about it over three days, I thought, you know, and this was as I was driving. I would always think about this. I'd be like, what kind of sighting would I want? You know, maybe way out in the woods, you know, I could see one far away, and I thought, no, I want to see one up close, you know. And I thought, well, I don't want to see a big male set squash up close. That would be super super scary, right And I'm thinking, well, maybe a juvenile male.

30:04 Big for society will be right back after these messages. And I thought, yeah, yeah, I could see a juvenile male maybe up closed. And I thought, no, I think i'd be kind of scared about that too, you know. And then I thought, you know what, Finally, it was like day three of thinking about this while I was driving, and I thought, you know, I want to see a female up close. Because you know all the stories you read, you know, you have less of a bad counter if you see a female, right, And so I finally said, okay, I want to see a female, you know, And you know, I'm just fantasizing in my head as far as I knew.

31:00 So the very next night, it's about eight twenty at night, and this is two thousand and nine, and it's November eighth, and I marked the date, and it was about eight twenty at night. My husband's in on his computer and he's got his headphones on, and all my dogs are laying there asleep, and I look over at the slide glass door and I see a black, hairy foot coming through the glass and the curtain and I see it's foot, I see it's me, and then I see it kind of come right up into a stand up position, and it's a female sasquatch. And she took one step and she was kind of hunched over a little bit, and she kind of like tossed her shoulders and stood up real straight. And let me tell you this female, she was, Oh, she was so fierce looking. It was unreal. That just incredibly beautiful. And she looked at me and she had the most scariest looking eyes though, So I thought, well, okay, this is this weird. I can't explain this lighting glass door thing, you know, that doesn't make any sense to me.

32:18 But here she is. And so she looked at me, and she just stood there, and so I looked at her. She had kind of a conical head. She had black hair, She had black black skin, so she was all black. And her hair, you know, was on her head anyways. It was probably about six to eight inches long, and it was different lengths at different parts of her body, so there was definitely shorter hair and longer hair. But so I kind of looked at the top of her hair, and her hair was kind of parted down sort of the center of her hair, and she had bangs coming down on her forehead and they were kind of thin and dispersed, so I could see her forehead pretty well through her bangs. Her hair was really really straight, very shiny, and the hair tapered off at the very ends, kind of like an animal's hair would taper off. And she had an eyebrow ridge that was really large went from kind of where the nosebridge would be clear to where the side of the head would be so much much wider eyebrow than ours. But her face was narrow like a human's face, but just the eyebrow feature went over much further and more straight than ours. And she had

33:50 luminized blue eyes, like they were lit up and they were all blue. But I tried not to really look at her in the eye because I wanted to kind of get good look at her from top to bottom, and I didn't want I guess I was worried that she would probably talk to me if I looked at her in the eyes and she looked angry. She did. She absolutely looked angry and not happy about being there, and I didn't understand that either. But anyways, so I want to hear and continue looking at her. She had a little bit of hair on her cheeks. Her nose was just a lot like how our nose would be. I mean, it wasn't broad, it wasn't flat like a lot of people described so yeah, but her nose was just kind of like how a woman's nose would be.

34:35 Her shoulders were not very broad at all. They were wide, kind of like, you know, just like how mine would be. Her body was absolutely athletic. I mean, she looked like a tennis player, you know, really lean absolutely no fat on her at all. Her hair also, she didn't have any hair on her face, but she the hair started again just underneath the chin, and it was super short hair, short black hair, and then it also stopped again once it went down her to where the neck ended in her her shoulder blades would be, and so that then the hair ended there. The hair started it again on kind of on the outer side of her ribs. That's where the hair started again, and it tapered from being really short hair into longer hair, kind of almost like you would see with a dog on its face where the hair could be shorter then tapers out longer on say like a you know, on a I don't know, a snauzer or something, you know. So it just almost like it was meant just the hair flowed perfectly like how it would on an animal. And her hands, her arms were long. They were kind of hanging down. I couldn't really see her knees because she had so much hair on the lower part of her box and she was standing up absolutely straight. But her hands were black.

36:07 And what was really weird about the hands is that her fingers were longer than our fingers, but the same proportions are as our fingers as far as length proportion, except for that the fingers were actually longer and the tips of the fingers tapered a lot more than our fingers are a little more flat as we come to the end of our finger but hers tapered, and then her nails were rounded and black and really thick. Also another thing is her thumb set back further than ours. So if you look up like a chimpanzee's thumb, which I've done before or since this, it looked very much the same shape as like a chimpanzee's hand would be with an imposable thumb. Her skin was thick and kind of more leathery, and also on the back of the arms, she was so thick and hair you couldn't see through.

37:03 The only part that you could see through was where her skin was bare. So yeah, then when you look down to her feet, her feet were probably about fifteen inches long, and the hair stopped just like maybe half in short of like the bottom of her foot, and then her uh the hair also covered up probably to the bridge of her foot, so just before the toes started you could kind of re see where the toes were. So after looking her over, I looked back up at her, and when I made eye contact with her, in my head loud and clear, was you see us now? And I just was like, whoa, because you know, and so I just naturally I just bowed my head and I said in my mind, I said thank you, You're beautiful.

38:05 And then when I kind of looked back up, she wasn't even in my living room or she was just gone. Her whole the whole feeling, the whole error about her and her you know, kind of uppity. She seemed very upity and kind of angry. All of that was gone, and my dogs are sitting there asleep, everything's normal, like it had never happened. And so that was just an amazing thing to have happened and a gift I felt, even though she was angry, and it almost seemed to me like she was kind of being forced to, you know, do this. I don't know though, So then after that I had this, I had this, well it was like a real or like a video being put into my head.

39:05 So this would have been like probably, I don't know, maybe nine months afterwards. So I get up in the morning and it's like nine am in the morning, and I'm out. Suddenly I'm sitting on my chair and suddenly I'm out at Cottage Grove Lake, but it's at the crack of dawn, and I'm like what. And so I'm standing there looking overlooking the lake and I turn around and I look back behind me, and I see some green eyes coming out of the trees and it's almost like the shadows of the trees just pulled out of the trees. And it's this black sasquatch walking towards me with green eyes. And instantly my heart's just pounding, and he walks right up to me, and he walks just past me, but he never puts his eyes on me.

40:04 And he turns around and he he uh. He stops and he looks over at at the sun that's rising, and it's really weird. What happened was this sort of membrane mucus, well, like a membrane, like an eye membrane comes out, but it comes out vertically off the side of his eyes, and it comes out about maybe two thirds of the way and it's kind of got it's white, and it's got some gray squiggles in it, and I can see the gray squiggles, and I could still see the color of his eyes as I'm kind of looking up at him because he's right next to me, and his eyes grow from green to gold, and then that membry retracts back and he's gold eyed looking at the sun and he's all black. And then instantly I'm back in my chair again, and I'm like, WHOA, that's weird, because you know, it's nine o'clock in the morning, it's not cracking on. That whole thing was just something that was put into my head. And so that that I was like, Wow, this is really amazing, and he was just beautiful. He looked like some kind of a tightened I mean, he looked he looked very very human, and he was also all black, black skinned, black hair, and so that was kind of cool. And then so I'm

41:40 trying to think here. So after all that, so about a year and you know, I was really confused by how that sasquatch came into my house, and so I about a year and two months later, I ended up having this sort of lucid dream where I was walking out into the forest and our local forest and it's a moonlit night and I'm walking through the trees and the dream, and I come to this sort of circular opening in the trees and I'm like, oh, so I stop, and I kind of I look around into the woods around me, and the moonlight's kind of pitched down into this circle, and I see this darker area in the trees, and all of a sudden, the sasquatch that was in my house, that female was right there in my dream.

42:34 And I said, hey, how you doing, you know, and she's like, oh fine. You know, we're kind of talking in the dream, and I'm like, how did you come into my house? How did you do that? I was kind of asking her my dream, and she's like, oh, well, when I came to your house, you know, because one thing I noticed in the dream is that she seemed much taller, same proportions as what I saw in my house, except for in the dream she was bigger. She said, oh, she goes, I was astra projecting myself so I could fit into your house. And I was like, oh, okay, you know, but so that was that was kind of weird then, you know, it was just a dream, of course, But you know, I don't know, maybe I was having an outer body in my dream state. I don't know anyways, So the next thing that kind of happened was so it was twenty twenty. We're on lockdown, you know, and I'm pretty depressed at this point. I'm like, the whole world is coming to an end here, and you know, I'm thinking, geez, you know, what's going to happen next?

43:39 Or grocery supply is going to go down? Are we going to not be able to give food anymore? And I'm just really worried about that. And all of a sudden, you know, and I'm thinking about it to myself, Well if that happens, how do I get food? You know, I don't know how to hunt. And I'm like, I'm going to have to carve a bow and arrow and go out and try to kill something to eat it, you know. And I was thinking that in my head. That soft voice comes into my head and it says, you know, with a real loving feel. It says to me, we will never let you starve. And I thought, oh, okay, well that's nice, and you know, whatever this is, it's nice if they say that. So I don't know if it was the next day or the day after that.

44:23 I can't quite remember, but I went out to the lake. And when I went out there, you know, I was standing down by the water and there was sort of this boggy area that earlier in the spring I had noticed just a little small, like oh maybe a three foot area where it was kind of swampy, you know, and I had noticed that, and I remember thinking back in the spring. I remember thinking this would be a great place to see a sasquatch track, right, And so I but I'm down at the water and something it comes into my head and says, you need to go check out that boggy area. You might see a track.

45:06 And I'm like, huh, okay. So I turn and I walk up to that boggy area, and sure enough, there's a track there, a really defined, large track, right. So I took some pictures out of I put my sample next to it. I did. The track looks like it looks like it was maybe done in the spring, because the ground is hard now, so this track's been there a while. You can see little plans starting to grow up into the track, so you know, it's clearly you know, going to go away pretty soon, you know, but it's still really well defined. Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

46:00 Been. So I I'm like, well, you know, my intention was to go walk over the dam, and that's I was just kind of trying to get some extra steps in, so that's kind of why I was in that area, was just to keep a little extra steps and anyways, so I thought, well, I better go ahead and walk back up to the bike path. So I did walk up to the bike path, and when I did, there was all this grass between the bike path and London Road, which is just up above maybe six feet above the path, but in the long grass it was all compressed down and I just froze because I'd been up to Glacier National Park in the past and where the grizzly bears lay down at night alongside the path, there was always these huge flattened marks, so I knew some kind of animal had had laid down there. But you know, we don't have grizzly bear, and the biggest thing I think we do have is an elk and that's the only thing.

47:07 A cougar is not that big either, or our black bears are pretty small. So I'm like, what is this, you know, And instantly I'm on high alert. So I just freeze and suddenly it feels like all eyes are on me, and I look up onto the road which I can see, and there is a what looks like a dog or a coyote. It kind of had a natural look like it might have been a coyote or a wolf or something, but it's I only see the body. The head has been severed off. There's no blood dripping down, but it looks like it was very instantly had been done right there, like within minutes. And I just froze when I saw that. I scared the academy, I mean, and I just froze up, and I started looking around me to make sure that there, you know, nothing was coming at me, because I felt like heavily, heavily watched. Honestly, I felt watched for maybe, like I don't know, like a hundred feet away, like something was there, but it wasn't right there. And I look at one of the trees, and these are scraggly thin trees, right. I look at one of the trees and I look over at another and I hear a woodpecker, but I don't see a woodpecker, So I'm assuming this woodpecker or staff sucker or whatever that's pecking on a tree. It's on it must be

48:39 on the side of the tree that I can't see. But instantly I'm like, okay, what I come here for to walk over the dam? So I walked off and I left it, you know, and I walked on, and when I got home, I got this real heavy sad feel and disappointment feel inside of me, and I'm like, and I thought something left that. I think they left it for me. When when I saw it, I thought something had maybe just been feeding and I interrupted it and I didn't know what it was, and so instantly I thought I should get out of there. But then, you know, so when I got that heavy feeling like something was sad and disappointed and angry, definitely a male masculine feel, is what it was, I just said to it, I'm sorry. I know I was thinking that the other day.

49:37 I didn't. I was just worried about something. It's not something that's actually happened. I don't need food, but thank you for the gift, and when I need it. Now. The weird thing about this, you know, I said, when I need it, maybe I'll take it, you know, and utilize the fur and you know, I mean I'm not one to be above you know, trying to live if I have to, you know. Anyways, but what was really strange about that was, you know, parks and recreation and lake management, you know, they always pick up you know, dead kill, and you know, the sheriffs and the you know police, they'll they'll pick up a roadkill and throw it in the back of their car. Nothing touched this, uh whatever, this dog coyote was. Nothing touched the carcass.

50:28 Bugs wouldn't even touch the carcass. That thing took six months to degrade it in the sun on the side of the road. Nobody touched it, No animal touched it. And I just watched it for the rest of the summer just disintegratee away until it was just a skin sit in there. But it disintegrated away. It didn't get eaten, nothing touched it. So that was just that was just the weirdest and the creepiest thing from there. But one other thing that had happened to was it was a couple of years ago, well probably like three years ago.

51:10 I went out for a walk. I like to walk my neighborhood, you know, stay in shape and stay healthy. And I walk down there's my house, and then it goes down about six houses and it goes into open fields up into the woods, you know, and these open fields are really vast, they're big. And I'm walking down the street and I see this big cut off tall redwood tree right out in the field, and I'm like, what, we don't have a redwood tree here. There's nothing here. I walk this field every day and I'm like, okay, that's weird. So I turn around, I walk off, and I walk up to the next street, and I walk down that street which goes to the open field, and I look over and it's not there anymore. So that happened.

51:57 And then the very last thing that has happened to me, or at least the most recent, was probably about a couple of years ago. My friend and I were driving up by Wildwood Falls and we were coming back and the road's kind of winding and twisting, and so we're going slow. She's driving and I'm in her car with her, and I uh, I turn around and I well, I'm like, stop, there's a fox. And my friend tore on our brakes and what I saw on the passenger's side was a wish air, and I thought, what is that? So I instantly kind of relaxed, and I thought, huh, And so I told her. I'm like, oh, I said, I must have been mistaken. And she's like, oh, no worries, you know, And so we continue driving gone. And so when I got home, I thought that is so weird, and so I just went ahead and I kind of got myself into a relaxed state and kept watching it and repeating it and repeating it, kind of like when I got hypnotized.

53:10 And finally I kind of see that air movement again. I see it over and over again, and finally the air their a hole kind of develops in the air, you know, movement, and off the ground about twelve feet, I see a little baby shoulder with red long red kind of mahogany, you know, red like a red fox hair. And so that was kind of I was, you know, surprised to see that. So, you know, after I'd had that sasquatch walk into my house, you know, it was another year or two, you know, I don't know it was two thousand and twenty one or twenty twenty two now I think it was twenty twenty two. I saw on Facebook that Doug Meachum had made a post and he's a hypnotherapist and a friend of Ron Warhead's, and he had made a post, Hey, if you think you've had a sasquatch encounter or an alien encounter, please get a hold of it, and I'd love to do a regression and help you, you know, remember exactly what happened.

54:14 And he also, I think, helped out Toddney's and he's also helped out Bob Gimlin. I guess he hypnotized Bob Gilman on the Patty you know film, and so what I would give to actually see that. I guess he did it at a show and I would love to see, you know what, or at least to hear, you know what that was like for Bob Gimlin. That'd be cool. But anyways, he helped toddne out too with his experience, and so I went ahead and got a hold of him and you know, went through hypnosis. So you know, he had my whole body relax and I was in his office and he had my whole body kind of get into a deep, deep relaxation and then he walked me back up to that two story Ford again from when I was a kid, and I'm looking up and of course I'm in a hypnotic state, and I'm like, those are sasquatches. And there was four sasquatches, so they were juveniles. There was the one right up above me was a taller male, so I would guess he was somewhere between probably four and a half feet and five feet tall. And then there was next to him a girl sasquatch who was shorter, and another girl that was a little bit shorter than a little bit taller boy, but not as tall as the first one. And the boys were really obvious because I was directly underneath them.

55:43 The boy's shoulders had a lot of muscle, like they were really developed, and the girls their shoulders were very slight. I've seen enough pictures now that I know what a sasquatch looks like. These these aren't aliens, because I had always thought it was maybe an alien and because of the missing time and you know, so and the amnesia, which I didn't know what that was about. But I think I have a better understanding now for that. But anyways, so, but yeah, they're scared. Their mouths are in the shape of an oh, they had. You know, if you get a baseball mid and you you've had it for a couple of weeks. Their skin was about that color, and they had you know, they kind of looked mahogany reddish mahogany kind of colored kind of but with a lot of you know, kind of golden too too them. And they all kind of had similar hair and similar color.

56:49 Their eyes were like the pupils of their eyes were really wide, and then the iris was really thin around it, and the iris was really light blue, and then there was the light of their eyes. But they looked at me very fearful. And then what ended up coming out and hypnosis, And it took some time for this to come out. But the taller one above me jumped down in front of me and he grabbed me by the shoulders. But when he grabbed me by the shoulders, he had his palms and his fingers straight. He just kind of braced me with his hands on either side of my shoulder, and he kind of squatted down in front of me, and he put his face to my face, and I looked down at his arm hair, and I could see the arm hair going from really mahogany kind of in color, and it faded out into the hair just hanging there, faded out into the goldener chierer gold color, and he looked at me and he screamed. He opened his mouth wide and screamed at me, and it was a loud, shrill, shrill, female sounding scream. And then he let go on my shoulders and I just staggered backwards because of that sound, and it just RICKI seted through my body. I can't

58:19 explain it, but it was such shock. I couldn't do anything. And he let me go and I staggered backwards and I fell flat on my bud and then he grabbed the pole post of the ford and he took his other hand and he punched the ground at me, like to stay away from them, you know. It was kind of what I got from that is that he didn't want me to ever get too close like that. And he turned around and he pulled himself with one arm all the way up to the top level of that ford, like a monkey would do. So that was just really weird.

59:00 But then I heard this rushing sound, just bulldozer sound, through that greenway swath on the other side of the railroad tracks, which ended in kind of a big BlackBerry mound right and this male sasquatch on all fours comes just bulldozing through that BlackBerry bush and he ends up putting on the brakes right over the railroad tracks, and the rocks underneath his fingers just flew up into the air, and he just gowed at me, and he looked over at After he growled at me, he looked over at the children, and the children grabbed there a couple of scraggly trees right there by the ford. They grabbed a hold of the scraggly trees and got down and went behind him and went back in the hole that he had come out of. And they were kind of like on all threes as they were kind of moving off, you know, on the ground. They kind of did it in all threes. It kind of had the other hand was kind of up in the air looking at me like like they were scared. And then he looked after they got all the way in, he made sure they got all the way in, then he turned around and he looked at me, and he kind of looked off to the side and just went well, kind of huffing like you stupid human, you got human child.

1:00:31 Big for society will be right back after these messages. You got too close to us, you know, like he was frustrated, like, uh, you're not worth it, you know, you're not worth my time. And he turned around and he on all fours and he turned around and he walked back in the way he came from the Buckberries, the way the kids went. And I just sat there and Doug, you know, when he was there. So when I got to experience that adult come an hour, I started coming out of hypnosis or you know, being really relaxed, and Doug's like, hey, step outside your body and watch what happens. That way you don't have to experience is so close, and so I did, and then I was able to stay nice and relaxed and kind of finish up the experience and anyways, so you know, I sat there for a while and finally I got the wherewithal and started standing up again. And I stood up and I started walking back to my house and I stop, and sure enough, that horrible, rushing feeling comes. The world feels really big around me. There's a strange feeling. I

1:02:02 go into my house, I don't recognize my parents. When we go to pick up my brother, or sister, I don't recognize them. My memories all come back to me. But the amnesia I think was just due to severe shock. So so yeah, that's been my experiences. That that is a fascinating account, My goodness, because wow, yeah, I so listeners. I didn't know a lot about this going into it, and it's just so fascinating. I do have a few questions, if that's all right.

1:02:43 Oh yeah, So. Regarding the sas question that came into your home, which is very interesting at that time, did you have any any home security system in your home at all? No? And the whole time my phone was right next to me on my table. End I never I mean, like when you meet someone for the first time and I gotta say this, how rue would it be to pick up your phone and take a baiture? Oh? Absolutely? Yeah. And it felt the same way. It felt like someone was introducing themselves to me. She didn't seem happy about it, but you know, she was introducing herself to me. There was no way I was going to pick up my phone, and no way I even thought about it. You know, no home security other than my dogs.

1:03:34 And you hear that, you know so many times I haven't been able to experience myself yet, but you do hear that a lot is that, you know, even if the person did have a phone with them, it's just the magnitude of what's happening is so great that they don't even you know, think of it. So it totally totally makes sense. Have you seen the Patterson Gemlin film before? Oh yeah, you know, I the first time. So my parents had given me a book that had like the Lockness Monster and had a still picture of Patty, you know, just a photo of her. But I was twelve by the time I saw her, so you know, I was much a little bit older, definitely older than when the Patterson film had been filmed. But when I saw her, I remember thinking, oh my god, they live in our woods, you know, but beyond thinking that, you know, because I thought, well, if it's in northern California, it's going to be an Oregon, you know, because our woods are even thicker than down there, you know, and impenetrable, you know. But then you know, like I said, you know, I grew up fishing doing all that stuff, and you know, being out and playing by creeks and never once ever saw anything, so you know, it was pretty much quickly out of my mind.

1:04:50 Again, did what you saw in your house that day? Did it remind you of Patty at all? Or was it such a completely different figure? I would say completely different. You know, Patty's built like a large refrigerator, you know, so she was. She was clearly built more like a human, but taller. But she was built just like a human other than her breast seemed different, and her hands seemed different, and her feet seemed different, and of course her face was very different. Her face was scary because you know, her mouth went from cheek to cheek, and she had really thin lips, and thank god her lips were shut because I would have I don't know if I could have handled sea teeth, you know. But she also her eyes were like from the bridge of her nose all the way to the edge of the side of her head, so her eyes were super long, and her pupils of her eyes were vertical like a cat, which gave her a very much a predator look. And then just that glowing blue where everything it was like a you know, like how you'd see the blue on an electronics you know, like a stereo or microwave or something. It was that color of blue, and they were self illuminized.

1:06:14 Which is extremely interesting if you think of other reports. There's there's a lot of similarities, but there's also some some new information as well. After you had that encounter, have you ever seen anything that is close to what you saw that day in your house, like any representations or anything. I thought in the book, in David Plotti's book The Hoopa Village, there is an Indian girl who David said, you know, he didn't Harvey Pratt, I guess drew a picture of this sasquatch and it's in that book, and he I think it's in the Tribal Bigfoot book, I think anyways, but it's like three quarters of the way through the book. But it's this this Indian girl, Angrid something her name, and I'm probably saying it wrong. She had an encounter where she saw saskatch with vertical eyes as well, and David said he wouldn't have put it in the book, but he said she was so convincing to him anyways that he said he felt it was worth going in and putting her account in. Harvey Pratt's picture in there. And when I saw that, and I flipped to that. When I was reading that book, my heart stopped. It just stopped because those were the same eyes.

1:07:44 The face is wider than the one I saw. The one I saw I had more of a narrower face, but the eyes were the same eyes, and it made my heart stop. Well, it took me right back. That's really interesting. You did, Yeah, yep, that did. I thought I'm not the only one. There's a you know, we've talked about Cottage Grove, but also areas past Durana Lake. There's another area down there that comes up every once in a while and emails and stuff. And I'm just curious if you had any you heard anything, or if you've been down there, if you are you familiar with the Sharp's Creek area at all.

1:08:31 Yeah, yeah, for sure. I had a strange experience there too. I remember, well, I went up there and I crossed over the first bridge there and I just parked my car and kind of walked through the gate and I started walking down this gravel road that's towards you know, the woods there, and there's a bunch of BlackBerry mounts too, which you have to be cool careful around here because cougars like to get into BlackBerry mounts, so you gotta be kind of careful because they tend to hide out there, you know. And so I saw all these BlackBerry mounds, but I started getting this horrible negative feeling and I just thought, nope, I'm not going that way. You know, there was it was an oppressive negative feeling, and so I thought, well, okay, so I'm gonna walk back on the other side of Sharp's Creek, just kind of through these open fields, because I wanted to look at Sharp's Creek not from the road, but from the other side of the creek. And so I started walking that way. Well, I took a picture of the woods where I was getting that feeling from, and I went home and I changed the filter one filter and it's basically, you know, like a blob squatch, you know picture, But there is something there with ice that you can see kind of glowing.

1:09:56 So I don't know, it's a vague picture, and it could be a bear, it could be anything. It could just be a trick of the lights, you know, as far as I'm concerned. But I mean, that was my experience. And so I took my brother and my sister in law there and I'm like, you know, man, there's something negative here. And so I took them there and we walked up there and my brother he's ex military and he's not afraid of anything, you know, and he's like, man, I can feel it too. You know. This is bad. Whatever that is is bad, you know. And I'm like yeah. And then it was weird because my friend, they're from Alaska.

1:10:36 I took her or she was the one I was up at Wildwood with. I took her up there and the gate was open over the road, and so we went up there and I walked over and I told her, yeah, this is where I had that bad feeling of something. But that particular day, there was no bad feeling at all, and it was like, Okay, whatever it is is gone. And then some come up on the road with a truck full of wood, you know, and that's why the gate was open, and so we had to move our car and you know, and I didn't walk back there anyways. I just, you know, after that one time, there's no way I was going to walk back into those trees. I won't risk it. It's a very interesting area. I get a lot of emails about encounters by Sharp's Creek and I've even talked to at least one landowner in that area, and there's definite activity in that area. Listeners have also experienced anything.

1:11:34 Feel free to reach out. But I have just two more questions for you in it, and I really thankful for all the time that you're able to spend with us today. Going back to the Blair campground part of your account, do you remember the next morning getting up, did you happen to see any footprints or anything around the tent or anything that would show that there were pace? You know what, I wish that I would have known what I knew now about that. I totally would have explored or even looked up on that incline to see if I see anything, But no, I wanted out of there and I wanted to pack up my dan. I didn't even look around. We didn't have breakfast, we didn't do anything. We just got out of there.

1:12:24 Yeah, makes makes total sense. Yeah, and my husband. I never told my husband about it because he was you know, he was a Christian. My first husband was now my current husband. He'd be like, yeah, you know, we could talk about it, you know, because we're totally open. But in that marriage things were different you know, we were real estate investors and we were just like, now, our heads weren't in the game on that one. You know, totally get it. Last one is just the curve ball, just for fun to ask people that are familiar with this area. And you mentioned and Oak Ridge and Odell Lake and all that, So have you ever heard anything about the there's a lake called Spirit Lake.

1:13:08 Have you ever heard anything weird happening there? Or have you been there? Uh? No, No, I have never been there. And I've heard you mentioned it on your on your shows because I listen, but no, I don't. I'm not even sure where that's located. There there is a lake that's up off the Mackenzie that has been known to be a place where you see balls of light, and I read in this book about it being a place where you people have bigfoot encounters. And I remember when I this was when I was in my twenties and I was in super at that time. I was I was really doing a lot of athletic stuff, so I was really in shape. And my boyfriend at that time, he was he was a you know, national badminton player, and we went for a hike up there at that lake and I went in knowing that it had this lake had this reputation, and I don't want to mention it just because I think it's probably important to the Bigfoot people, you know, for them. But anyways, we started hiking and it was really kind of a decline, at least the first part of the trail going down to the lake. However, I felt like my leg's weighed a thousand pounds. I felt so fatigued, and it was unusual, and I'm like, man, maybe I'm getting sick. And I asked my boyfriend. He's like, yeah, you know, I just feel the same way. We were

1:14:39 going to hike past the lake and you know, go up into the woods, and we had this whole planned thing out and we just ended up turning around and walking back out and we were so terribly fatigued. But no, the Spirit Lake, I now I want to go after I've heard what you said. Yeah, well, definitely looked look out for sasquatch with with dreadlocks because that's where they are. Uh one of the. Cool to see one, Yeah, be cool to see one with dreadlocks too. That's that's true. Actually, Yeah, the. Ones I see always had smooth hair. They didn't. They didn't have dreadlocks at all. It's it's very very interesting when you I think I've gotten that two different times, something where someone mentions something that looks like dreadlocks, but and that it has been just a fascinating conversation. Thank you for sharing, uh, the difference of your experiences over the years. If anything else does happen, you know, feel free to reach out. But uh, it's just been a pleasure chatting with you today.

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