March 11, 2025

You Watch Out for Them in North Georgia!

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as we delve into a series of captivating Bigfoot encounters in North Georgia. In this episode, we speak with Rick, a retired army aviator, law enforcement officer, and security specialist. Rick recounts...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as we delve into a series of captivating Bigfoot encounters in North Georgia. In this episode, we speak with Rick, a retired army aviator, law enforcement officer, and security specialist. Rick recounts his chilling 1974 encounter in the Appalachian foothills near Amicalola Falls. From stories of glowing eyes and strange noises in the woods to mysterious figures stepping out from the trees, Rick shares detailed experiences that have left him deeply affected. Rick also discusses a highly disputed but intriguing account of a military helicopter crash near Dahlonega, Georgia. He reveals stories of strange creatures allegedly seen at the crash site, exploring the possibility of Bigfoot involvement. Additionally, Rick touches on other cryptid encounters, including a potentially supernatural hitchhiker and eerie incidents involving strange creatures near Kennesaw Mountain. Don't miss this fascinating account of Bigfoot and other unexplained phenomena in the depths of North Georgia.

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All right, Big for Society. I've got the privilege of

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talking to Rick today. Rick is an individual that I

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got connected to through the YouTube channel side of Bigfoot Society.

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His past is he's a former Army aviator, former law

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enforcement officer, and security specialist, and he'll be shared an

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incident that happened back in nineteen seventy four. So welcome

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to the show.

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Rick. How's it going, Hey, appreciate it. I just having

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a last day. I'm retired work part time now. So

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I have time to spend them meet you and research

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and look into these crypt and things. And I think

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he's kind of therapy for me given what happened so

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long ago.

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Absolutely, you know, I'm excited to hear the whole story.

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I know the summary, but I'd say we can get

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right into it, and I'll let you take the mic

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and you can take us back to when this happened

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to you in nineteen seventy four, and we'll go right ahead.

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Yeah. Well, I'm sixty seven now, and I was fifteen

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years old, and I grew up in the North Georgia

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Appalachian Foothills. I was one of those kids who, you know,

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of course, we didn't have texting, we didn't have internet,

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we didn't have you know, any of modern things. So yeah,

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you read books where we watched some of the old

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TV shows that came on back then, like in Search

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of or you know, if you were lucky to find

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another documentary. I remember seeing the Legend of Boggy Creek

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on the Bounce because about nineteen seventy one, and and

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I I thought that was a really scary movie. And

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then this guy named Peter Burn that put out a

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little paperback book, and he was from Oregon and bought

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that book and you read it, and I thought less interesting.

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And you know, I lived out in the country. Nearest

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neighbors were probably quarter mile on either side, lived up

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on the hill, and we were not too far from

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Amacloa Falls, and that would be a state park that

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marks the beginning of the Appalachian Trail. And I wasn't

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too far from the Dawson Piccag County line and hill

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country and my dad and all this familar Depression era

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of farmers, and we grew up with stories about boogers

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and the ghosts they called hants, and they were talking

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about being out walked at night and something would follow

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them and when they would stop, it would stop. I

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remember my dad walking home backwards one time. He told

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with his knife out from church on the old dirt road.

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He said, every time he would stop, whatever was up

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on the top of the hill there it would stop.

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I think we've heard those stories before, people exlaming it

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to something pacing them and stopping when they would stop.

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So yeah, I heard bigger stories growing up. And of

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course we call them boogers, and they'd say, you know,

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don't don't queat at night, the bookers will get you.

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I had an aunt that even she lived far from

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where our eu counter happened. She claimed this big airy

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man walked her in the side of her house one night.

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She was on the front porch rocking, and she said

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she just froze stiff. Well, it looked at her, and

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she said she closed her I started praying, and when

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she showed her as it was gone. And a lot

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of people thought that was just a wild story. And

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I didn't order to believe it or not. But one

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cold early month night in nineteen seventy four, myself and

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three other boys, teenage boys, one of them was on

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us drive. We were out on the back roads nearly

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Almaclola River, which is fed by Ammacloa Falls, and there

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was an old intersection and the road was just barely

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paved at the time. In the two roads that fed

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off of it. One of them went into a wooded place,

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which to this day there still hasn't been any houses

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of building there. It's interesting that it's still just open woods.

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But the other road went down to the river, and

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so we were coming up to the intersection and there

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was an abantment that was about chest high, and we

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were spotlighting deer and we weren't going to shoot them.

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We were just trying to fight a deer. And the

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guy driving had a little twenty two pistol which was

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of no significance for a deer. So we were coming

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up to this air station and up on the bank

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there we saw these glorial eyes. It was three sets

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of glowing eyes. And so it was a buck and

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two does and the you know, we got decided, hey,

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this and deer. So our friend was driving pulled up

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and parked the car and we got out and it

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was a two door, and so the guy that was

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sitting in front of big writing shot gun and he

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had one of those little de Cel flashlights which put

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out account of a dim light. And now the guy

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sitting in the backseat with me, his family were known

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to be poachers and they they they were they get

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a deer and where they could. So I'm sitting at

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this intersection and we're out just looking at the deer

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and they're frozen, and for the deer in the headlights

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where the car still had the headlights on. And so

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but in retrospect, the two guys in front, they walked

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up pretty close to them. I'd say they were within

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about fifty sixty feet of them, and they were just

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standing there and they should have bolted because they were

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talking and the deer was just frozen. And so we

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were still standing by the car and over my right

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shoulder about a forty five degree aagle and sniffing the woods.

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I hear crashing sound. Was that a tree limb that

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fell or what? And there was saturday sounded like sounded

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like heavy footsteps. And I looked on my right shouldren

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and the guy that was over the other side, the

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one who said they were known to be deer poachers,

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he says, oh my god, I bet that's a game

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board and we're caught. And I said, I don't think

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game board is gonna make that cat of of noise

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coming through the woods. H About that time, the hairs

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on my body started standing up, and I got real

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just I don't scared, and like goosebumps kind of scared.

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And I had my peripheral vision that this little narrow

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road there it was. It was so narrow that if

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two cars met, even if they pulled over in the ditch,

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they would have probably probably scraped each other's doors and

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so something at a time, I thought, well that was

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something or someone, but something took a step down off

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that bank. It was big, and then it took one

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more step and it was to the other edge. And

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then on the third step it was up on the

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other side of the bank. So basically three steps. And

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it was one of those deals, like your mind freezes.

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And as I talked about it, I still see that

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that I don't know, maybe one and a half or

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two seconds. It's frozen and I'm trying to process it.

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Look over the other guy and I said, did you

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see that? And his eyes are just wide open, mouth open,

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and so he starts. He starts saying, let's get out

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of here, let's get out of here. And I'll say, yeah, yeah,

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let's go. And the two guys in front they didn't

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see it, and so we're we're screaming, there's somebody coming

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in there, something coming. No, they were not going anywhere.

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They said, well, whatever that was across the road started

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angling toward where the deer were standing. It was making

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more noise or either it was just the same amount

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of noise it was making because it was getting closer

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you hear it better. But it was walking toward them,

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and I don't know, I would say that guy within

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an eye eighty two one hundred seats of the deer,

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and all of a sudden they bowlded like they were

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shot from a cannon. And now the nearest house was

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probably half a mile as the crow flies, and there

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was a big farm down the road behind us, in

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an old church across the road from us that you

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could see, and then down the road by that church.

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So I'm at this point starting the term I used

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is I was, I was scared with fear. I was.

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I'mn have describe unless you've ever had happened to you.

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There was law enforcement officer, I was. I was shot

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at and had a gun pulled on me one time.

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And it's a difficult of fear. This is a path

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of the bull fear that was making my stomach feel strange.

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And that was when the two guys in front quit

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talking and they knew something was coming, and they shined

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the light down in the aduration, and so the you know,

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the deer were already long gone, but there was a

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lot of like old brush and on the other side

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of the fence, up on that bank, and something was

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walking up where he was slight, slight incline, and we're

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steal in the back and I've got one foot in

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the car and I'm saying, let's go, let's go, and

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the other guy he's already in the car, and something

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walks up. There was a tree and I'm gonna say

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it was probably two feet in diameter at the base,

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maybe a little more, maybe three at the base, and

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tapered of courses. It went up a little bit, but

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there was this odd looking limb that grew out and

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then went up at an angle, like an elbow something,

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and you can see outline of it because it was

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the headlights were not pointed directly at it, because he

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had the headlights pointed at where the deer were. So

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all of a sudden, something walks up and you can

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see the right side of its torso in an arm

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and part of a leg, and I'm not thinking straight,

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you know, I'm not thinking. Later on, it dawned on

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me that it appeared that there might have been some

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hair or fur or something you could see, but at

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the time it was just an object that they had

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to shake of a big man and its head was

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behind that limb that come out, and you've heard of

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the tree peeking that people talk about that a sasquatch

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are a big that's supposed to do well. This thing

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was would rock to the to the right slightly and

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you could just barely see a like part of a

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head in the face. And I don't need to see

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it to make out any features, just the outline. And

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so all of a sudden, the guy up in front

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reaches in his car, the driver, the old guy, and

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grabs a little twenty two pistol and he stands behind

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the door and aims the pistol. He says, who are you?

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Tell me who you are? And the guy with the

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detail light he is already h and I've already got

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back in the car, and he's already got one foot

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in the car, and the d CEL light pointed toward

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the tree where the things at. And a guy this

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driving says, all right, if you don't tell me who

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you are, I'm gonna shoot. And I remember saying no, no, no,

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let's go, and the guy in the back saying, don't

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don't shoot, no, don't shoot.

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No game boarding big for society, who will be right

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back after these messages.

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Because he was still thinking it was a game board

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and about that time you hear pop pop, and there's

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a HEAs fishing of about a second and the guy

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with a flashlight, he's already in the car with the

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door closed. And the guy that shot, he threw the

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little pistol on the floor and he started that car

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and we went out of their sideways. It was an

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old pontyac gto and it was the host of the car,

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and we went out of their sideways and we drove

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about two miles to a It was at service station.

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They had a cocon sheet in front, and it was

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where the main that road went into the main highway.

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We pulled over there and I'm I'm feeling nauseous and

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I'm just anxiety, and the guy in the back is

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he's just jabbering. I'm sure we're all talking about was that?

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What was it? And the guy in front gets out

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and he goes and leans over the car like he's

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gonna throw up, And he goes to the coke machine

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and gets a coke and and I think he's drinking,

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maybe to sell his stomach. And then he's still, you know,

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been over like he was going to throw up. After that,

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and so we're only two miles from when this happened,

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and I'm saying, let's don't stay here, let's go, let's

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go home, because it was a school night. And and

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for anyone that thinks that we might have been drinking

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or smoking anything, I was a straight laced athlete, football player,

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and I didn't, you know, I hadn't even tried a

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beer yet at that time, so I didn't know what

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alcohol taste like. Even though my dad was a moon

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shiner at one time, I didn't I've never tasted it.

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So we finally get in the car and he starts

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taking us home, and the guy that was sitting in

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front he kept saying, you all right, man, and he

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would just shake his head and I'm sick. And then

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something on the way home. And by the way, that's

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the road where my aunt lives at the time that

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he claimed that she saw the white the wild hairy man.

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It was about another mile or so down the road

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from there. And so we get, you know, on the

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way home, and finally the guy in front of he

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looked at he says he saw his face, didn't you,

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And he was real quiet, and he kind of nodded

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his head forward, and he's like, what did it look like?

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What did it look like? And he just wouldn't say anything.

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And so we get home. And also I was so

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scared that night that that the every little sound just

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had me paranoid. I slept sitting up with a double

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bear shot gun across my lap, and I just couldn't,

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you know, I couldn't sleep. So but we had decided

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that we were gonna We're gonna go back up there

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the next day and in daylight and check out where

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we were at. So we went to the place, hoping

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that we might find some evidence of that or some footprints.

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You could only basically see a walled out area. We

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did see I think we did see a couple of

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deer trags on them where there was some mud. But

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up there in that brush that was close to the tree,

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it was just some wallowed out places, which I suppose

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could have been where something was walking. But I was

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five eleven at the time before I get the old

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age and arthritis and shrank a little bit. But I

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reached up toward that tree and I could touch where

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that tree limb came out, that face was behind, and

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with my arm almost extended, I could touch the bottom

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of that limb. So if my arm was two feet

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long and I'm almost six feet tall, you can figure

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that's where this thing's face was, not the top of

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its head, its face. So then we told a few people,

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and we got told, oh, y'all are lying all crazy,

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what we're all loan, what we're all taking. And I

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had remembered a story, something that happened a year a

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year previous. And my mother even came in and told this,

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And she was not one to tell any kind of

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a story. She didn't believe anything like that, you know.

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She said that she had been told by a friend

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of hers that lived in that area that a game

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boarden had been out looking for poachers state game boarding,

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and that he called in on the radio and said, Okay,

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I'm leaving my truck so and so I'm going to

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go out and look for signs of poaching or you know,

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see if I can catch you vehicles, you know, moving about. Well,

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he never did report back in, and this was told

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by several people to be true. They said that it

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was around midnight when he went out, and that they

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lost contact, got people out looking for him, and that

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just about as the sun was coming up the next morning,

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a farmer on a little side access road going into

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where his cows were saw the game boarding walking with

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us one thousand yards stare in his eyes, and his

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clothes were disheveled, and he kicked him up, and he says,

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you know what's going on? What's going on? They said,

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the guy was just dehydrated and disheveled, and he's real frightened.

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And he told him that he had seen something big

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and he said, he said, its head, and his face

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looked kind of like a bull, and he had a

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flat nose. He said, it was almost like you'd taken

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hammers and hid it in the eye and flattened out

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his eye sockets. And I remember that's what my aunt said.

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She said it looked like somebody hit it in the

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face with a hammer, And that all registered with me,

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And interestingly enough, that story went away within two weeks.

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Nobody was talking about it. And the last I heard

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is that said that the game warden was transferred or

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relocated somewhere else, so that that story went away. And ironically,

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the guy that I was that was driving the car

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that night about this was all in nineteen seventy four,

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so us you fast forward a few years, and I

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would see him in church and later on I would

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make remarks like, hey, you want to go back up

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on the river and look for the booger, and he

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would not even make eye contact with me. He'd just

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shake his head, you know. And then there was a

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girl that lived up there, and she lived in the

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next county over, and her folks had chickens. They had

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chicken houses, and the chicken houses were I don't know,

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about one hundred yards off that road that went in

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to the intersection where we were at. And the the

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interesting thing was I told her about this is a revival.

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I said, Hey, I'm gonna tell you something. You're gonna

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think I'm crazy. And then I started telling her and

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she got this blank look on her face, and she says, oh,

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I was coming home from a football game one night,

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and I think what she saw ran across the road

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in front of me. And she said, then one time

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her uncle went out and ran something out of one

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of his chicken houses and actually fired a couple of

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shots from a shot gun up in the air. So

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we weren't the only ones that knew about this, but

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it's just nobody wanted to talk about it because nobody

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wanted to be called crazy, and trust me, I got

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called everything and that you could think of. So heeting

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back to the guy that was dry, his cousin was

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one of the first people to build a house in

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the subdivision that was not far from our looks. I

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think it was about a mile in the other direction.

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And this was a story that got out and was told,

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and he actually, this guy that was driving actually told it.

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He said he said, well, he said, his cousin and

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then build a house. And they had just got moved

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into it, and they had gone out to eat one

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Saturday evening, and I believe this was in the fall

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of the year, and when they came back, something had

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busted down the door of the kitchen. He had guns,

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and they had other things and jewelry. Nothing was stolen,

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just something had ransacked the kitchen, and they called the

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police out and or the sheriff's local the locals apartment

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deputies out at the time, and so there was nothing

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that they could find evidence wise. It's just that they

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felt somebody really strongly just kicked the door off the

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hinges and we never to hear any more about it

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after that. Supposedly a local group of hunters that got

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together and went out and I don't I don't know

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if they found anything or not. Nothing was ever nothing

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was ever talked about. And of course I'm still a

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teenager at the time, and you know, I just heard

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what it hurt, mostly through through the grapevine. But then

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going a few years later and I get into the

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military and become an aviator and the helicopters o old

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Hughey's and there was a crash of a Cobra helicopter

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up in Delaonica. This is highly disputed, but it's also

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highly rumored. And uh as a matter of fact, we

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have a bigfoot museum north of US and the guy

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there that runs it, he has this story there on

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video for for people to see. This little video production.

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Helicopters crash up near the ranger camp above Delawonnica Delanga, Georgia,

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which of course is further to the northeast of Amunkloa Falls,

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and that's that's in the area where we had our

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our encounter. So the the the chopper crash, it was

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foggy rain. He hit the side of a mountain and

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it caught on fire, partially burned. The aircrew and some NPS,

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a couple of volunteers I believe there was five people

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were dispatched up there to secure the site until the

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next day when the investigators could get there and with

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all the other people to try to you know, recover

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the remains and the wreckage and investigate what happened. So

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they set up a chint and they built fire in

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there about as I recall, they were approximately one hundred

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two one hundred and twenty five or thirty feet away

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from from the side, and so somebody was going to

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stay up and you know, they're going to do a

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guard shifts. There were a couple of hours. So one

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of the the guy that was up supposedly heard this

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clanking sound and he thought, well, what is that. And

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the first thing is his thoughts, supposedly was that it

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was a bear trying to get in, because you know,

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because the aircrew were still in there, they covered it

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with a tarp, but to try to, you know, to

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in respect to the remains of the of the pilots.

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So he starts yelling, hey, bear, bear something, and a

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couple of other guys get up and run out. As

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I remember it, two of them ran down and saw

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two or possibly three. What they thought at first were

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men trying to get into the cockpit. I can only

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soon maybe they were going to try to get the bodies.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

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M it's kind of mortgig to think they use them

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for food, But well, you have some people have claimed

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that Bigfoot will pre date old people. But anyway, they

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fired up in the air, and the way these things

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took off running then they they ran too fast and

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it was obvious they weren't people. But there were two

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or three of them according to the report. And so

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that that was when I was still in in the military,

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and I had later on had gotten injured and medically discharged,

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and so and there was sort in my life progression.

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I was out in the country as a rural deputy sheriff,

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and I used to get these calls going out to

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people's houses about oh, our motion sentences are going off

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and we look out and there's nobody there, or we

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hear these footsteps. And people would hear these, you know,

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what they thought were house and they would say, it's

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a mountain lion, even though the supposedly there was no

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mountain line in Georgia, I think Kentucky or West Virginia

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was supposedly, even though having sightings of them now. And

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my brother who's eighty six, told me that they used

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to hear something coming around the spream like that around

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their chicken houses when my dad was had chickens. This

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was back when I was just a baby. I don't

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remember it, but he described it as like the sound

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of a panther. I looked up some what we're supposedly

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bigfoot calls or sounds on line and I played him

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for him and I said, is this what you used

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to hear? And he looked at me and he says, yeah.

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I said, well, here's a bobcat, here's a fox, here's

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supposedly a mountain lion. I said, now listen to this again.

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And it was supposedly a bigfoot screen and he said,

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that sounds like what we used to hear. And he said,

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that's interesting. He said, we all thought it was a

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panther because they claimed there was a black panther that

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would run down the hollow up behind the property where

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the chicken houses were. So anyway, that was you know that.

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That's another older story. But going back to the to

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the present or the more recent past days. I had

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a friend who moved into a new subdivision near Kennesaw Mountain.

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I know a lot of people know where that's at

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and at the time and now it's extremely populated. But

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this was back in the probably mid eighties, maybe late

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eighties the most. And he lived in a cul de

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sac and he bought the end lot, which was there

453
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was a big drop off down behind it that went

454
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.920
to a creek, and they were a little baby separated

455
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:54.240
them from from the Kennesau Mountain. Was the main road

456
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.640
that went in there. You could see it from the

457
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.960
back of his property. So if you would walk down

458
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.279
that hill through that hollowing up that, you'd cross the

459
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:10.119
road and you would be at Kenesaw Mountain property actual location.

460
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:17.519
So he calls me and I hadn't heard from all.

461
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:19.760
He said, hey, he said, he knew I was in

462
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:26.360
law enforcement. He says, do you know anything about any

463
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.079
reports of any just this is what he said. He

464
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.719
just big coyotes. And I said, what do you mean

465
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.039
and he said, well, he said, we get a lot

466
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.559
of deer that just congregate in our cul de sac.

467
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.079
And he said they're just standing around there. And he said,

468
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.679
I've heard coyotes and he's a big deer hunt and

469
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:55.000
he said, I know, I've heard coyote calls. And he says,

470
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.000
I think they're scared and they come to our cul

471
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.440
de sac and he said sometimes I'll look. Got there

472
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.360
and there was a dozen of them. And but he

473
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.800
said early one morning, he was on his back deck

474
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.840
drinking coffee and there's a stream that runs down that hollow.

475
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.320
He said he had to do a double taking and

476
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.760
rub his eyes. And this was his word. He said,

477
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:23.440
I saw the biggest black dog I've ever seen. He said,

478
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.639
So I'm just wondering, and he says, can you get

479
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.719
in touch with your law enforcement contacts or game warding

480
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:35.679
people and see if there's any reports of any you know,

481
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.760
oversized coyotes. He said, it's what he said. He said

482
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.800
it looked more like a cross between a coyote and

483
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:48.639
a big german shepherd, but that it was black. And

484
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:54.440
he said, I swears its shoulders had to be waist high.

485
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.400
And so I talked to a game boarding friend of

486
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:04.280
mine and I told him the story that I even

487
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.519
went back and told him, I said, you're gonna be crazy.

488
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.719
You think I'm crazy about the story about what I

489
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.079
saw when I was, you know, and I'm in a

490
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.639
law offrseman by the now, I'm a criminal investigator, and

491
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.559
so I sort of progressed and I said, and I know,

492
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.480
you know, I wouldn't lie to you, So just what happened.

493
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.239
And I told him about what my friend saw and

494
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.039
I said, so, have you ever heard of anything like that?

495
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:32.280
And he just kind of had this sheepish look, as

496
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.760
we say, on his face, and he said, oh, you know,

497
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.639
I hear a lot of things, right, I don't know

498
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.800
anything like that. And it was just one of those

499
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.400
things where I read his body language in the expression

500
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.880
on his face, and I sort of got one of

501
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:54.440
those tacit answers from him. Just from his reaction, I

502
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.800
think he actually knew something he probably just couldn't tell me.

503
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:06.320
But anyway, to to that end, you know, later on,

504
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.320
I just started looking into a lot of the stuff

505
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.239
and and researching it on my own, and you know,

506
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.719
finding out this and that, and determining there was a

507
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.599
lot of other sightings and reports. And I guess that's

508
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:25.440
probably the uh abbreviated story of what happened to me.

509
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.280
And if you have any questions about anything just fire away.

510
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:32.400
That is.

511
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:40.719
That's a fascinating account. Thank you for sharing, Rick, I

512
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.519
did want to. So you were in the military and

513
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:44.800
you heard about that.

514
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.679
Yeah, the crash. The crash came out. It was in

515
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:52.199
the Army Times, and it was in the bulletins that

516
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.320
came out. Anytime if you were an active AVIA or

517
00:37:56.079 --> 00:38:00.840
if there was a crash, uh, the report would come out. Uh,

518
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.039
you get the news. And then there was because they

519
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.920
always wanted to talk about the findings and what happened

520
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.519
and try to educate you on how to avoid it.

521
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:16.760
So anything, the any comment happened, you would you get

522
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.440
briefed on it at some point. Now, of course the details,

523
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.880
the other details were left out of the briefing that

524
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.440
we that we got on it. It's just that I

525
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.599
knew that it had happened. And when I went to

526
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.239
this the museum up in the North Georgia is called

527
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.199
Expedition Bigfoot, and I've been up very few times, and

528
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:42.079
you know, told them about my sieting and and he said, well,

529
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.840
come back here and let me show you something. And

530
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.519
guy's name's David mccara, and he's just he's built this

531
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:57.400
place into a real tourist attraction, and I I went

532
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.480
back there in this store room and he says, I

533
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.400
want you to what this little video off put together.

534
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:05.199
He's got slides and some a little bit of audio

535
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:10.840
on it. And I said, I heard about that crash.

536
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.559
And he even had names, or the allegend names of

537
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:21.840
who the some of the enlisted people were that were

538
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:25.559
on the site when that happened. And there were some

539
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.880
there have been articles that I looked into it said yeah,

540
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.119
so and so said it did happen, and later on

541
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:35.760
know so and so said it didn't happen. And I'm

542
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.039
sure that they were told to keep their mouths shut.

543
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.400
It's just like a guy that I did it. I

544
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.599
did a little bit of time at Fort Stewart, and

545
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.639
you know, they called them swamp apes or swamp boogers

546
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:54.559
or stink apes down there. A guy who was mechanized artillery.

547
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.599
He didn't see it hisself, but he said he told

548
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.000
on me. He said, you know, he said when he

549
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.760
was down there on maneuvers, he said people would talk

550
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.519
about seeing things at Fort Stewart and that that was

551
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.880
one of the things that they would report seeing. Uh.

552
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:14.679
And the guy that was from Fort Benning talked about

553
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:20.599
seeing what he referred to as a big dog, and

554
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.880
I want to say he said it was he said,

555
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.800
he said a dog. He said, can you imagine the

556
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:31.159
dog the shyes of the Shetland pony. So yeah, it's

557
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:33.960
not like I didn't hear. But of course that like again,

558
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.360
that's back in the in the eighties. I was discharged

559
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.519
in eighty five medically, and then we're talking about, you know,

560
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:48.079
the two thousands before I really found a couple of

561
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.880
places where I could, you know, tell my story without

562
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:56.519
being ridiculed. And then I discovered the museum up there

563
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.360
and went and talked with them, and so yeah, I

564
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.840
had heard heard about this the incident of the crash

565
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.000
long many years ago. But that's spinning on it about

566
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:14.920
what happened with supposedly some potential bigfoot sasquatch whatever, maybe

567
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.960
trying to get the bodies for a meal. That was

568
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.719
me and I just my jaw dropped when I saw that,

569
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.400
and I told I told lady the owner about it,

570
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.679
and I said, I knew about this, I said, I said,

571
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.800
but this part I didn't know. And so so yeah,

572
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.719
I had I had heard about that. You know.

573
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.960
It's it's really interesting that story is very similar to

574
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:44.079
a story that was shared by a researcher named William

575
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:48.719
jevnig Out in. I believe this is near Fort Lewis

576
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:53.480
in Washington. Various very similar things would happen out there,

577
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.800
and it really makes you wonder, you know, Yeah, I think.

578
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:03.199
I think for yeah, Fort Lewis is a apparently booger central. Yeah,

579
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:08.679
from what I've heard.

580
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.440
Hundred percent absolutely thinking back to what you experienced when

581
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:19.480
you were around well around nineteen seventy four, we'll say,

582
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:26.360
near the falls, near that area, from what you saw

583
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:31.360
that night, would you be able to categorize it?

584
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:31.960
You know?

585
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.800
You know sometimes some people describe Bigfoot more as an

586
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.000
ape or more as a human, or more as something

587
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:44.159
like who knows? Do you have any leanings towards either side?

588
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:44.800
From that?

589
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.360
I remember many times people would laugh at me and

590
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:55.239
I would just say, okay, listen to me. It wasn't

591
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.400
a barrier, it wasn't a man, because it did in

592
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.679
all of God, Like I said, it was like one

593
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.280
and a half two second glimpse. It was over my

594
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.840
shoulder at roughly a for maybe thirty five forty five

595
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:14.800
degree angle, but as it stepped down, I would refer

596
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.920
to it as it didn't walk, It kind of lumbered.

597
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.920
And I did see an arm swing and it was

598
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.159
leaning forward when it stepped down on the road to

599
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:30.960
go forward. And I go back to the Patterson Gambling film,

600
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.880
and I've looked at that a thousand times, I bet,

601
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:41.199
and looking at that, you know, I that is the

602
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:45.679
closest thing that I can tell you to you know.

603
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.440
And I saw it. It didn't turn and look, but

604
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.400
I did see it take that step like that, And

605
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.960
that's the closest thing I can I can tell you

606
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:03.679
that there might be some resemblance that you can't deny,

607
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:09.039
but there's certainly some humanoid resemblance that you can't deny either.

608
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.920
It's very interesting and say it's one of the last

609
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.280
great mysteries that we have in this world. Uh, And

610
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.719
I'd be really interesting when that mystery is finally one

611
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.559
hundred percent uncovered, maybe in our lifetime exactly.

612
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.360
Well. One of the reasons I wanted to be uncovered

613
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.519
my last time in my lifetime is I want to

614
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.039
be able to go to a lot of people that

615
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:40.280
said I was crazy and say, okay, look here it's

616
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.039
been proved. I mean, I've got family members like my

617
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:49.119
wife can't talking about it. It just you know, you know,

618
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.880
we've got an arguments. She's embarrassed about it, you know.

619
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:56.079
So that's just a point of contention.

620
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.360
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

621
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:15.760
Sure?

622
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.719
Yeah, and and unfortunately that's that's a story I've heard

623
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.119
repeated more than a few times as well. It you know,

624
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:30.000
you talk about this and it does really affect relationships

625
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.079
in your life, But would you say it is worth

626
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.039
sharing what happened to you in a public setting?

627
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:45.159
Now? Yeah. I went to a couple of the meetings

628
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.039
up there at the at the museum. I was I

629
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.559
didn't I didn't quote have a great deal of time

630
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.920
to talk, but I did it just like a couple

631
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.360
of minutes that you don't introduce myself. There was a

632
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.519
they had a program and I said, you know, I'm

633
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.760
from here here in nineteen seventy four, you know, just

634
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.000
I gave like a too minute version of it. So

635
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.599
that's the closest I've come to, you know, being in

636
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.760
a public place and sharing it, you know, with live

637
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.320
people there. And the answer is yes, I mean I

638
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.039
don't mind talking about it at all.

639
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.840
Do you have any thoughts about why this area of

640
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:32.239
Georgia is such a good location for Bigfoot. And there's

641
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.519
just so many encounters that happened in the North Georgia area.

642
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:45.400
Farms, deer and water and desolate areas, a lot of

643
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:51.519
mountainous wooded I mean, there are hollows that we had

644
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:58.039
a missing person one time, and I remember we were searching.

645
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:01.400
We had one of the search team members get lost.

646
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.840
And I was in those hollows up there, and this

647
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:11.039
is in the mountains to the west of that area.

648
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:17.599
And it got dark and me and one other person

649
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:19.800
because I was afraid the rest of the team would

650
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:23.719
get up would get lost. And we had topographical maps

651
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.440
and I had experienced reading them. I mean, I was

652
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:30.280
no great. What you call a path finder is the

653
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.159
Army has people that can really read those voumps. But

654
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.000
it got dark and I me and that guy, I said,

655
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:41.840
we had volunteers. That the bus get lost. They say,

656
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.960
y'all get out of here. You know, take the take

657
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.960
this stream bed. It leads right back to the dirt

658
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:49.920
road the left that you go back to the highway.

659
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.559
We got back in there and when you get those

660
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.519
hollows and the sun was it was still up, but

661
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.920
behind the trees it was dark, and finally we found

662
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.559
guy and then we I couldn't see the map even

663
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.400
in the flashlight. It was hard to sell tell what

664
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:11.519
was what, and so I called on the radio and

665
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.440
I asked one of the patrol cars. I said, hit

666
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.440
your siren and take your seal beam the headlight and

667
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:20.760
just circle it around and make it a lass e

668
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:25.239
up in the air. And he had to do it.

669
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:27.280
We would have to walk back towards the I just

670
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.880
to use the compass, and I'd walk back and the

671
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.960
direction we came from. And finally I got up on

672
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.079
top of a big hill and I could hear the siren,

673
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.760
but I couldn't see the light. And then finally I

674
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.800
got closer, then I could see the light. We came

675
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.840
out of there at probably ten o'clock that night. It

676
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.639
was like six or seven hours by the time we

677
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.760
left the main group and I sent them home to

678
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.760
the time we found that guy. And I'll be honest,

679
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.320
you know, I don't know how it went. If we

680
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.719
hadn't had somebody up on the main they could have.

681
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.880
It's sort of been a beacon forest, like a lighthouse.

682
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:05.199
It's desolate.

683
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.719
I think Tesla is definitely a great way to put it,

684
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.039
based on what I've heard from other people. I mean,

685
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.039
there's just you need to be prepared if you go

686
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:20.199
out in this This is like Chattahoochee National Forest Area

687
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.960
that hey, absolutely it might not just be a half

688
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.440
an hour, Like have the right survival stuff with you

689
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:28.119
just in case.

690
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.639
You know, I know people that's lived in that area.

691
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:37.280
It's one person who's who's lost dogs. They've had dogs

692
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.400
go out and not come back, and then they've told

693
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.719
the other people's dogs that go missing. And I think

694
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:48.559
that's interesting. And if you don't mind my asking, what

695
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:53.719
do you think they are? So with you?

696
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.519
So you're asking me right now, and keep in mind

697
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.599
this could totally change the right now now. I think

698
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:06.519
that we are dealing with a physical creature that can

699
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:11.760
leave footprints and things like that, but but it can

700
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:15.239
do a lot of weird stuff that science has no

701
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.159
idea about how to explain unless you're on the fringe

702
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:24.679
side of science. And I mean you look at the

703
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.880
animal kingdom. There are animals that can do some really

704
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.599
weird stuff. I mean, look at the platypus, look at

705
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:37.320
the octopus that can camouflage within a second. The Echidna,

706
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.920
I believe has electrical sensors in its face and now area,

707
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.199
I mean, there's a lot of really weird stuff that's

708
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.760
out there in the animal kingdom. And that's not even

709
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.159
you know the fish that are at the bottom of

710
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.239
the ocean. There's some weird stuff down there too, So

711
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.840
I don't think it's out of the ordinary. Now are

712
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:02.599
there things that you know? It's hard for me to explain, absolutely,

713
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.360
I mean, I find it very I can't explain how

714
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.639
you know, there's a sighting of a bigfoot in back

715
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:13.400
on the state park in Iowa that was controlling an

716
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.400
orb with its hand. Like, I don't know how to

717
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.440
explain that. So I think, well, you know, my my

718
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.599
current definition. It may very well change as I go

719
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.480
further down this trail, but for right now, that's what

720
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.079
my my thoughts are regarding that.

721
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:35.519
So well, I was fairly well appointed with the late

722
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:39.800
great Scott Carpenter, and I have two of his books,

723
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.920
and then I'm proud to say he autographed for me,

724
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:48.840
and I met him and up at that museum in

725
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.840
that state touch with him and we had a few conversations,

726
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.000
and I can not help believe as I'm sort of

727
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.679
what you call him an amateur Bible ancient the history scholar.

728
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.119
I sort of think everything goes back to Mount Hermon,

729
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:11.519
with the fallen angels and the nephiloum and hybrids. That

730
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:15.960
I'm not saying these things are nephylum, but if the

731
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:21.679
Nephilum existed and they weren't completely eradicated, and they interpret

732
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:27.239
with humans, and they you know, if originally the giants

733
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:31.599
were supposed to be, you know, thirty six feet tall,

734
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.840
tall as trees, and then by the time David slew

735
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:39.159
goliafe golias with roughly nine feet tall. So with with

736
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.159
not being able to maintain pure bloodlines and possibly interbreeding

737
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:49.960
with humans and other animals, who's to say that these

738
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:57.119
are not creatures who have characteristics that are so supernatural

739
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.760
you were talking about you create the crazy things that

740
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.320
science can't describe, that they might be able to do.

741
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:10.039
Who's to say that those are not supernatural spiritual qualities

742
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:18.400
from some sort of bloodline thats still exists, even though

743
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.320
it's many senturies diluted.

744
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.079
Oh absolutely, I can't believe that the phone is still

745
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:28.360
going right now. Usually when we go down this road

746
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:33.719
is when the phone disconnects. It's happened probably about five

747
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:34.360
to seven.

748
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.679
Times so far. Yeah, absolutely, no kidding.

749
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.840
Every once in a while, there'll be things that will

750
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.480
come up about events and current day that I'm really

751
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:48.360
not going to get into just because unfortunately that's the

752
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:53.440
stuff that can get you taken off platforms. But if

753
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:59.639
you are able to look and listen, you could potentially

754
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:05.559
find and things that are connected from today back to

755
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:10.079
that time of history and Mount Herman and it just

756
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:16.000
it gets very very interesting. But listeners want to hear

757
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.000
more about that, you probably check out a friend of

758
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.559
the podcast, Tony Merkle with the Confessionals.

759
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:27.639
He goes crazy. Yeah, I love that. I'll tell you.

760
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.880
I'll tell you what happened to me about seven or

761
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:37.760
eight years ago. I started heavy. I will go short

762
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:41.360
of saying the revisions or dreams, but these ideas that

763
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:45.679
started popping into my head and I almost feel like

764
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:51.679
it was therapy for me to release because I went

765
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:53.719
down that rabbit hole like a lot of people did,

766
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:58.440
and so I wrote quite a few crypti stories and

767
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:02.400
the guyline there, I'm going to try to put him

768
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.039
into a book for him, But I did have a

769
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.880
guy online. I don't think he's narrating anymore, but all

770
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.679
his stories are still up. I probably wrote about two

771
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:16.719
dozen stories about different kinds of cryptids, and I remember

772
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:20.239
after I wrote the last one, I remember a feeling

773
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.880
almost kind of like this bird and had lifted off

774
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:31.840
of me, and that, uh, that that felt interesting. And

775
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.719
I'll tell you something else that happens to me. And

776
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:39.320
I haven't told many people this. I told my brother

777
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:43.480
and a couple of other people, but not one. Before

778
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:48.559
I got our law enforcement I had I was still

779
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.519
working part time on the weekends, and I'd taken another

780
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:55.400
job and I had stepped down as an investigator. I

781
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:58.719
was up in the mountains and I was driving along

782
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:04.320
the main road and there's this young man. He is

783
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:09.000
he's walking along his Davy's the hitchhiking. He's walking on

784
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:13.639
the side. The road's got chorte. It's January, it's about

785
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:18.119
twenty eight degrees, the winds blowing. He's got this little

786
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:22.079
member's oldly jacket that he's got thrown over his shoulder.

787
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:26.079
And I thought, what the heck? So I called that

788
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.840
on the radio description. I said, hey, buddy, what's going on?

789
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.760
You stranded? Oh no, I'm hitchhiking, I said, where. So

790
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.599
he was going to the next city up above, which

791
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:43.840
was about by car about fifteen minutes, but walking, especially

792
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:45.719
since he was up the pill all the way, would

793
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:47.440
take you in a long time. I said, well, hey,

794
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:50.880
let me take you up through the county line and

795
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:55.000
I'll call the next county sheriff and see if they

796
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.599
could get somebody down here to give you a ride.

797
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.480
I said, you don't need out here like this at night.

798
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:01.440
I said, get him here, and so I put him

799
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:05.639
in the back seat. And so I called, and I

800
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.840
get the next county on the line, and I said,

801
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:10.360
do you have a unit down here. I've got a

802
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.400
guy that's out here and he's freezing. And now this

803
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.199
guy didn't even have a bag. It didn't hit me.

804
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.320
He didn't have leave it a little piece of luggage.

805
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:25.199
And and I hope people don't really think I'm strange

806
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:32.360
or this stuff follows me around. But I get up

807
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.639
to the little roadside park that's right on the county line,

808
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.119
and I called, and I said, I got the unit

809
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:41.719
on the line the cardy car frequency, and I said, hey,

810
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.639
are you on the way. He said yeah, he said,

811
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:48.800
I'll be there in ten minutes or less, and so

812
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:50.519
all right, I said, I'm sitting here waiting on you

813
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:55.280
with this guy. And this guy tells me, okay, he's

814
00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:00.320
got really dark skin, he's got dark wavy hair, but

815
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.000
she had blue eyes. And he's sitting in the back

816
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.400
and I said, so, tell me where you're from. And

817
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.039
he said, well, I'm from the Caribbean, and I think

818
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.199
it was Bahamas or something like that. And he said,

819
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:18.159
I'm trying to get to this church resort for young

820
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.199
people that's going on up at such and such church,

821
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:24.239
which i'd never heard of, don't even remember the name

822
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:30.360
of it. And I said, really, I said, and you've

823
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.440
hitched iked all the way. And it still is not

824
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.599
in my mind. It was so strange that he didn't

825
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.760
have I thought he had like a little fatty pack thing, know,

826
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.599
it was bigger than normal one if I remember, But no,

827
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:49.679
no bag. He's carrying over his shoulder like for spare

828
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:56.360
clothes or anything. And so suddenly he I look, I

829
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.119
look in the back seat, and I'm asking you to

830
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.760
We're having this spiritual conversation, and all of a sudden

831
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.639
his face starts to kind of change, and his eyes

832
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:11.039
seemed to get brighter, and he starts saying these strange things,

833
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:16.760
like you don't have these strange uh, these strange visions

834
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:19.880
that come to my mind in these in these uh

835
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.920
you know, and these ideas and these feelings and these thoughts,

836
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.079
and my an inner feeling told me get him out

837
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.239
of the car, or an inner voice says, get him

838
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.639
out of this car. Now. We're at the roadside park,

839
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.960
which and there's two lanes going south to going north

840
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:47.280
on this interstate. And I said, well, listen. About about

841
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:49.320
that time that I was going to open the door

842
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.639
trying to get him outside, I got a radio call.

843
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:56.159
A burglar alarm had gone off. So I had a

844
00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:58.000
real good excuse. I said, look, I can't take you

845
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:01.039
this alarm with me, but I said stay right here,

846
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.360
and I said I'm going to come back check on

847
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.079
you in the ending, will be here in a few minutes.

848
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.960
And the guy's babbling on and I said, hey, we'll

849
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:09.360
go check on and we'll get you where you go,

850
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:14.400
and I take off to the burglar loarm.

851
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.360
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?

852
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:36.239
So I went right back out of the interstate. It

853
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.559
took me about ten minutes to get to a turn off.

854
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:45.480
There was not a car that came either way, and

855
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.159
I get a call as I turned onto the road disregard.

856
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.400
It was the homeowners came home from vacation trip the

857
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.320
alarm and everything's okay. So I said ten four, whipped

858
01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.119
it around. I said, okay, I will go back check

859
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.719
on this guy and hopefully that the other unit will

860
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.400
be there. We can, because I'm in my mind now,

861
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.360
I want to get somebody else there. I want to

862
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.000
get another law enforcement officer, and I want to interview

863
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:12.239
this guy and get information on in fire of who

864
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.320
he is and where he's really from, you know. And

865
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.719
so no car because when I turned off down there,

866
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:23.880
no car had come south, no car had gone north.

867
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.840
I turn around and I go back up there, and

868
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.119
I called the Gilbert County unit and I said, hey,

869
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:38.199
are you there yet? No, I'm about he said, I'm

870
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:42.079
about four or five minutes out. And so it took

871
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.119
me like two minutes to get back up there. I

872
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.360
didn't meet a car, no car coming south. So I

873
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.880
pull over. Guy's not there. So I take my spotlight

874
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:57.639
and I look over the edge, down the down the hill,

875
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:02.719
down my office side, the little mountain there over the guardrail.

876
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:04.320
I go over on the other side of the road

877
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:06.639
to where the little they have like a little pavilion.

878
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.239
I look around there, and there's no car sitting there.

879
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:14.599
There's nobody there. The guy's gone. And so when the

880
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:18.239
guilder kind of unit pulls up and I both search

881
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:24.679
and look around, the guy is gone. And I started

882
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.000
telling him about it, and you know, of course, he's

883
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:29.039
kind of looking at me like I've got two heads.

884
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.519
And then and I told him, I said, I had

885
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.679
a strange feeling about him, and I kind of would

886
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:36.800
to get him out of the car. And I said

887
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:39.880
that I've got to call for a burglar alarm. And

888
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:42.039
that gave me a good excuse to leaving him here.

889
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.760
I said, So I saw nothing, and I asked him,

890
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.480
I said, did you beat a car? He ain't out

891
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.119
of a vehicle going north on the way down. Nope,

892
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.559
that's it on the road because it's about ten o'clock

893
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:58.519
at night, or maybe even a little bit later, between

894
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:02.880
ten and eleven, and uh, we sat there and talked

895
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:07.000
about it for a minute, and uh, we couldn't find him,

896
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.039
and we just said up. He said, all right, he said,

897
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.280
I'll look for him on the way up. He said,

898
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.400
I know where that church is at. He said, I'll uh,

899
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.000
he said, I'll pass it on. I never heard anything

900
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.639
back from about it. Apparently he never showed up. But

901
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.519
I thought, I thought, first thing, I thought, I remember

902
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:30.280
from the Bible sometimes you've entertained angels untawares. Was that

903
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:36.400
an angel or was that something else? Because and so

904
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:40.119
that's been another thing that But that's been the last

905
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.559
strange occurrence that happened to me in my life. And

906
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.280
like I said, and then sometime a few years ago,

907
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:50.559
I wrote, I wrote quite a few stuff about bigfoot

908
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.000
and dog men and reptilians, and I did a bunch

909
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:57.079
of research, and I felt like it was therapy for

910
01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:02.239
me too, something that I had to do to go

911
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:06.840
to get some close your own, you know, on what

912
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.679
it happened to me, make me to validate and speak

913
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:14.079
out somehow through through the written word. But anyway, that's

914
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:19.400
that's that. And if there's anything else you want to ask,

915
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.000
you know, I'm here. Well.

916
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.599
First off, that's I mean that the last account you

917
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.119
gave of the gentleman in the car absolutely fascinating. I mean,

918
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:32.679
it really does make you wonder. It sounds supernatural and

919
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.119
if it was, what side was it on? And those

920
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.719
are I used to be an uber driver a while back.

921
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:44.239
I had some really weird experiences, nothing to that effect,

922
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:47.239
but man, there's some weird stuff that happens when you're

923
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:50.000
driving around people late at night. It kind of makes

924
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.760
you wonder, But is there a place people can read

925
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.239
the stories that you've written?

926
01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:01.280
Or oh, yeah, yeah, sure it's a There's a channel

927
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.599
that was really hot there for a few years, and

928
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:06.400
the guy has it posted a new stories close to

929
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:10.239
a year. It's called d m T sixty sixty six

930
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:18.480
dead Man Talking, and I'm I'm under Rico's stories and

931
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:22.159
I don't know some of the stuff I've got. Its

932
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:26.039
been viewed like thirty forty fifty thousand times on there.

933
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.239
So everybody says I should write a book, and I

934
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.599
keep putting it off. I'm sixty seven. I guess I

935
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:34.360
better do it. If I'm going to do it, you know.

936
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:37.599
Yeah, I mean I would. I would encourage you to

937
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:41.280
do so. And it sounds like you're probably closer to

938
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.440
publishing a book than you might realize, sence.

939
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.159
You've had have all things written.

940
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.079
But that's that's cool. I will check that out and

941
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:50.559
see if I can find it on that channel.

942
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:54.079
Well, what I can tell you is the first it's

943
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:58.880
called the Hawk two Niner series, and it's fictitional. Characters

944
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:02.440
are based on Army Rangers and Delta Special Forces and

945
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:05.800
all that. And then later on I have some stuff

946
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:11.159
that veers off into the fantasy supernatural about angels and

947
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.039
vampires and stuff, but that's just kind of something I

948
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:21.800
did later. But the first the first three stories in particular,

949
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:25.960
set the stage for the rest in the series, and

950
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.880
the characters are loosely based on you know, some of

951
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.039
it's my background, some of it some of the people

952
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:38.440
that I knew, and and it's uh, everybody says they're

953
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:41.000
well well written stories. May enjoy them. So if you

954
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:46.159
if you like them, you know great. As I said,

955
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:48.800
it was the therapy for me to write.

956
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:55.079
Them, absolutely, and you know, hopefully through this all of

957
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.239
this people are able to you know, kind of it

958
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.280
is kind of therapy if you think about it, to

959
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:08.239
help people work through things. But Rick, there there's one

960
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.239
last thing that I want to ask you. This is

961
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.199
just kind of a just in case thing, but it's

962
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.079
an area that is further west of where you're at.

963
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:20.480
But have you heard of anything happening. And there's like

964
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:25.360
the Johns Mountain Wildlife area, that whole green space on

965
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:26.599
the northwest.

966
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:39.239
Corner, okay, from from Blood Mountain over toward the Alabama line.

967
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:46.320
There's there's supposed to be some crazy stuff. Yeah, you know,

968
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:50.400
we had the Blood Mountain monster. When I was a teenager,

969
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:54.559
I went to the fair in Hiawassee and I met

970
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:58.760
an artist who had drawn a picture based on what

971
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:02.119
a farmer told them of what looked like a bigfoot

972
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.840
with a pig under each r stepping over a fence.

973
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.000
And I saw that, and of course this was after

974
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.840
I'd had my experience, and I said, where did this

975
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.159
come from? And the artist was like, oh, a farmer

976
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.600
told me about this, and this is not too far

977
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:25.239
from that area where this museum's at. And the gathered

978
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.720
on the museum, he says, probably about once every week

979
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.359
somebody will come in with a new story reciting for

980
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.680
But now I'm not familiar with John's Mountain proper. But

981
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:43.000
there is a bunch of paper company property, Chimber that's

982
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:49.640
in the western side from basically roam up to the

983
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.199
Tennessee and over to the Alabama state line. And if

984
01:08:54.239 --> 01:09:01.760
I'm not mistaken. That is the area where the where

985
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:05.600
the story. I've got a bunch of family in Alabama.

986
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:08.880
They live in Birmingham and Tuscaloosa area. But one of

987
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:12.760
them told me about a hunter told them it's one

988
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:17.560
of those. Somebody told somebody about a farm orre supposedly

989
01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:21.159
they used to see a white bigfoot and they called

990
01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:29.279
it a white bear. And another guy that I heard

991
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:33.920
online on some site, there's actually a group over there

992
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:37.359
that go out and do little mini expeditions, and you know,

993
01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:41.079
you'll see something on their channel every now and then.

994
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.000
I can't remember their name, but one guy over there,

995
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.520
he's a hunter, he said, he said, Man, I saw

996
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.520
a werewolf from my dear stand and I ain't been

997
01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:58.439
back since and I ain't going back. So you know, yeah,

998
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.920
I've heard things from over there. And there's a guy

999
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.239
over there that I'm Facebook friends with that's I grew

1000
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:08.560
up working on a farm and claimed that there was

1001
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:12.279
that we're around there.

1002
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.520
I'm sorry, what did you just say that? The connection

1003
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.640
just went oh, sorry, weird for a minute.

1004
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.520
Yeah, there was a Yeah, there's I'm a Facebook friends

1005
01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:25.960
with a guy who grew up on a farm over

1006
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.600
there in the northwest of Georgia, and he says he's

1007
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.479
as a teenager working on a farm. He said there

1008
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:35.800
was a there was a whole family or a whole

1009
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:38.560
clan of Bigfoot over there, and he saw a couple

1010
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:43.520
of them when he was working on the farm. So

1011
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:49.560
but yeah, that that northwest area of Alabama's is active

1012
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:51.880
out of Georgia. That is.

1013
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:58.479
This has been just a really interesting conversation. And Rick,

1014
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.079
thank you for spending some time. Listeners if you know

1015
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.319
anything about Yeah, I've never heard of the Blood Mountain

1016
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.720
Monster before, but I'm sure there's some listeners out there

1017
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:10.640
that have some accounts as well. Guys, share them in

1018
01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:12.359
the comments or send me an email. I'd love to

1019
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:14.600
hear more about that, because that's something I've never heard of,

1020
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:16.720
so very very interesting.

1021
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.439
Well, if anybody wants to it has something in my

1022
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.880
area and they want to talk to me, and I

1023
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:26.680
want to go through you to get to me, I

1024
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:29.560
have no problem you know, discussing it with them. You know,

1025
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:33.760
I've talked to a few other people I'd been interviewed before.

1026
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:37.000
It's been a few years ago, and I did have

1027
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:39.880
a couple of people reach out to me and we

1028
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.960
shared stories. You know in an area is not too

1029
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:47.279
far from here, and you know I don't live up there.

1030
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.000
I live. I live well to the south of I

1031
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:53.560
live and actually live in Canton, Georgia. Now I'm only

1032
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:57.399
about an hour hour so north of Atlanta, but I'm

1033
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:01.720
about an hour or so from where these incidents took

1034
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:07.119
place now. So but yeah, I'm not sure how to

1035
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.319
talk to you body. Actually kind of like I said,

1036
01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:12.520
it's therapy. I actually enjoy talking about it. If I

1037
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:17.560
find out something new, Hey, let's just something you well.

1038
01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:19.600
There you go. I will definitely keep that in mind.

1039
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:23.359
And Rick, it's been a pleasure chatting with you. Thank

1040
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:28.319
you for sharing all the things you've experienced around North Georgia.

1041
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.920
And it was great talking to you. And best of look,

1042
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.000
if I can ever, you know, provide anything for you

1043
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:37.199
the future, I'd love to do it.

1044
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:39.560
Awesome. Thank you. Rick, will be in touch. Have a

1045
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:39.920
good one.

1046
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.960
Thank you, God bless I just.

1047
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:44.720
Wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you

1048
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:48.239
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1049
01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:51.920
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1057
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:20.000
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1058
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Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1060
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:34.840
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