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Held Against Our Will By a Bigfoot Family! | Indiana | Archives

Held Against Our Will By a Bigfoot Family! | Indiana | Archives

Originally released on 8/17/24 Jeremiah receives a surprising phone call from listener Cindy just before a July 4th parade. Cindy, from Indiana, shares her 30-year-old story of encountering a Bigfoot family, followed by a UFO sighting and time travel...

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Season 1

Originally released on 8/17/24

Jeremiah receives a surprising phone call from listener Cindy just before a July 4th parade. Cindy, from Indiana, shares her 30-year-old story of encountering a Bigfoot family, followed by a UFO sighting and time travel experiences. Cindy's vivid recollection provides a detailed narrative about a baby Bigfoot with changing appearances, an enigmatic UFO hovering nearby, and a group of 'Men in Black'. Following the initial story, Cindy's voicemails delve into more encounters, including a haunted doll, dogman sightings, and ghost investigations, making this episode a thrilling dive into extraordinary paranormal experiences.

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You're listening to Bigla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails in remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. The following interview took a long

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time to get to happen. It's important to know that

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this phone call was a random call that I picked

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up right before the July fourth parade, and so I

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was really not in the usual mindset for an interview,

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but something told me to pick up the phone, and

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I'm glad I did. Due to the fact the individual

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did not have Internet, and it's the first time I've

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had to actually send a guest release through the mail,

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I'm glad I finally got that guest release back and

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I present to you the following reports from Cindy enjoy.

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I've been so excited about my Babfoot story. I haven't

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been able to tell it for thirty years. She was real, Jeremiah.

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She was a real preacher. Nobody believes us. They think

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we're crazy.

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And where are you calling from today, Cindy.

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I'm calling from Indiana sound mind and body. But I

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remember this. Both my parents wanted me to tell this

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story after when they passed away, that we actually came

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in contact with the Bayfoot family and as little child,

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and it was pretty intelligent. They named her after me

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because she wanted to know us better, and so they

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taught her to saying the word high that her speak English,

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and she looks very happy with us, but we can

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tell she was very homesick. And so finally we stayed

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around the park for about six hours and finally a

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Bagfoot tribe came through and they took her back home,

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and there was a UFO in the area, and we

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were wondering if that had something to do with our

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We went through time travel. It was about like something

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like back in the back in you know, like like

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back in the Indian days, you know, when they started

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lived in the caves that we actually there were five

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Bain put people, and we thought it had something to

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do with time travel. We tried going back several times

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after this that there was no signing, you know, there

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was no time travel, and things went back to normal

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in the park. And I actually told somebody about it

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in Turkey Run that you know, thirty years later. They

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were nice enough to listen. But anyway, they were nice

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about that. But we once you know, this was was

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God's truth.

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We're telling the truth, Cindy.

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So this happened in Turkey Run Park in Indiana, Yes it.

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Did, but like I said, treachers like that normally don't

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live there. So what had to experience was time travel?

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So what year around was this about.

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Nineteen eighty three? In the early nineteen eighties. My dad

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I definitely believed in Bankfoot and he always wouldn't. My

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dad's name was David Katri. He was an Indianapolis pubb

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a school teacher Carl Wild School seventy nine, Room five,

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and I mean fifth grade, room twenty three, and scene

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back then, you didn't go around blabbing about stuff like this.

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It was called taboo. People didn't believe in UFOs and

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they didn't believe in bakefood or sasquat or you know,

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any of that thing like they do today.

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Absolutely, So you're saying your dad was kind of like

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a Bigfoot enthusiast.

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Yes, I was, and I'm a psychic and I had

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a true paranormal encounter here. It caused me to have

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some psychic ability, so they know I can prove my

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thenery because I'm still having experiences from this.

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Cindy, can you take us back to that time in

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nineteen eighty three when you had that experience in Turkey

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Run exactly? Kind of walk us through what happened that day.

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Well, we had lunch at Turkey Run and they always

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have great food and a great lodge. And like I said,

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it was a father and my mother and my little brother.

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He is about eight years old then and I was

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much younger and much better health than I just walk

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without a cake and anyway, you know how getting old is.

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But my memory is still intact. I am vividly recalling

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this as if it only happened yesterday. But it was

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like I'm aside about it, because it was like something

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out of those TV shows that you see on TV

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about you know, the Lost World or something like that

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coming on. But this was true time, Tadla and last

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I said. We started to go down the hiking trail

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and we saw some deeer out there, and we tried

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to feed him. They were pretty fair, and the lady

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at the desk told and said if we saw at

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the bears, she said for him and say, don't encourage him,

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don't feed him. So we promised him. We were too

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afraid of bears. But what made us drawn to this

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little creature was she was afraid that she needed us

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for protection, and so we stayed with her until her

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tribe came back.

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Were saying that the deer was afraid or the bigfoot

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was afraid.

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No, we were afraid of the paintfoot. We were afraid

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of it, but it cautiously approached its sorry, we cautiously

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approached us, and they wanted their child back, and so Dad,

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we were planning on taking at home. And after the

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experience we just found we were going tells this story.

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So I'm so grateful I just found you on the YouTube.

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I'm in searching all all three years for a bigfoot

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channel that I can tell this too.

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I'm so glad you found my channel finally, Cindy. So

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I'm going to ask some clarifying questions along the way,

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if that's okay, to make sure we get the whole story.

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So you're hiking down the trail, you saw the deer,

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the deer was afraid, and then get us to it.

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Sounds like eventually then you went you saw a baby bigfoot,

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and then there were some parents involved.

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We yes, we First it was like you know how

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you see those as you are both in the movies

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where they pass out a fog light thing, you know

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that kind of covers the terror torny. It was like

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walking through a fog, a bit fog, and we were like,

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we're in the heck, aren't we? Or are we still

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back in our time? Dad says, that's the bank foot.

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It's not what worries me. He says, outam, and get

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back into our time. He says, what if we come

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out at the other end and we're still trapped in

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their time and not in ours. But even as we

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were trapped further into the wood, the deer seemed to

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disappear and there was no I forgot to add, there

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was no noise in the woods, no airplanes, no car

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traffic coming from the modern world. There weren't even any birds,

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no crows, nothing, It was silence.

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Okay, So you saw you started walking through fog, which

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made you think, well, maybe there's a time travel aspect.

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Did you actually have a visual on a UFO as

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well at that time?

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Yeah? When I was trade, you think I was crazy.

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Not no lie about it. I got nothing to hide,

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And I don't mind if you used my program. People

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ought to be aware these experiences happened. Oh absolutely, I

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just want I just wanted to be careful that once

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you wish for or you just mind encounter you know,

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little same, don't you know, if you wish for it,

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you got to be able to own it.

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No, I totally agree with that. Just be careful of

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what you wish for. So you're walking through the fog,

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you say, well, maybe we're in a different time period.

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There's Do you you see a UFO? Correct?

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Yes, I did. It wasn't a silver It was a

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typical flying saucer or disc. But it was black and

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it had like yellow and white lights underneath, and it

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was meaning making a low humming noise.

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And was it parked or was it flying up in

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the air?

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It was hovering. It was hovering, but like I said,

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it was invisible to the outside worlds because UFOs have

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this ability to not be detective. That's why a lot

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of the reports are not showing up on the blue

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Book project that they want us to know about. And

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I think they did find aliens in area fifty one,

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and I think they're still there.

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I would agree there's some interesting things going on out

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there that we don't know all of it.

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And can I can I say another thing that happened

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from this bigfoot in spirit? Wait, it's spirits, the men,

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the men in the black Wait, it's sperienced men.

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In black Okay, So.

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I didn't want to say. I didn't want to say that.

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Yeah, we could get there. Yeah, so you've had the

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UFO encounter. Then after that, was that when you've started

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to see the bigfoot or the baby Bigfoot?

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Yeah, baby, yes, yes.

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Can you kind of walk us through, like what you

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remember how it looked like, how it was acting a

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good description.

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Of it, maybe, I mean the UFO.

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The like the baby Bigfoot.

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Oh, it acted like it was when we saw it

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from the back, it looked like a chimpanzee. And then

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when that's interesting part. It looked at first like it

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had a chimpanzee space, and then when it turned around

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when we first encountered it, it had a humanoid little

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girl's face. It mean become completely characteristic. But did you

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know that bakfoot can disguise themselves to dobody ever tell

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you that before.

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So I've heard a hypothesis that there could be a

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creature that changes itself to something that the person looking

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at it would be more comfortable looking at. And I

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think that might be kind of similar to what you're saying.

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Yeah, because whenever first looked at me, it looked like

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an ape and it was making who he has, like

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they knew who you know, like all that stuff like

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monkeys or amps sound and some of the others were

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running around on all fours, but this little girl was

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walking on two feet and tried to imitate it. It

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was that smart.

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Is there a multiple bigfoot in the area you're.

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Saying five five five, okay?

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And were they all juveniles or were they also adults?

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Their neighbor all adults? Oh, animals? There was an it's

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sort of like an older male. It seemed to me

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like the leaner of the group. There was like a

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mother and father and two Yeah, you were right.

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Two adolescents to sorry, So you said sorry mother, father,

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two adolescents, yeah.

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And one the same way, but I need one more

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sorry one two? That's three one more yeah, sorry, one

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more adlest and I couldn't tell whether they were girls

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or boys.

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Gotcha, now you said that. So did you actually see

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the face of the adolescence change from a humanoid?

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Yes?

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I did, Yes, I did. I was on no medication,

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no medication at the time, no drugs, no alcohol, nothing.

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Have you ever seen anything in a movie, like a

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sci fi movie that was similar to what you saw

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that day where it changed its face?

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Well, not exactly, not exactly. Okay, they've shown them being

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foot encounters, but they didn't show them how many countains

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like changing from something to it. I didn't see anything

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that could have influenced me.

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Right, that is a thing where I've never really had

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a report where the person saw the face changed like

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that's very interesting. How tall would you say it was?

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Well, the mother of the tribe seemed to be like

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only five feet tall, and the rest of them seemed

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to be like six feet tall when they were making

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guttural monkey styles to communicate, and the rest of them

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could speak English like the little childhood like books. It

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was light and can I mention something else? It was

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like she had an ESP and I think this was

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how she was tapping into learning our language. She could

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read our brain thoughts, her mind thoughts, and listen to

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what we were saying. You know, inside her.

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Mind, is there a conversation going on? You think maybe

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through your mind speaker.

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Yeah, I think she was trying to bring her I

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think they do have a ESP and they can tell

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what we're thinking. I think they're that smart.

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What were the thoughts that you were experiencing during this time?

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Well, I sent in my mind, who are you wherever from?

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I was afraid we were going to go to another planet.

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I wanted to go home. I had a favorite TV

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show on that night. I saw some kind of show.

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I forget what, but I remember I had some kind

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of show I wouldn't hit back on Kim John's. Back

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in those days, they didn't have these, you know, recorders

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very much back then that you could take with showing

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munching to again. But yeah, the only movies I saw

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back then, they didn't have so much Bayfoot. I ever

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saw Bayfoot back in the moving back in the eighties

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or TV show Mom wouldn't let me watch and myssing

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were on. Then she got stuff with me meeting the

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real one that was always so funny. But you know, oh,

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I'm sorry. I'm excited about telling us. And when the

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movie Pulcrims, I know what she did when she took

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after precaution. When the movie pulkrim Price came out, I

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thought it was great and anyway, I was in the home,

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but she said, no, we're gonna watch. It was a

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library at Speedway Public's Library for thirty years, thirty five years,

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and she took me over there to the meeting room

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to watch the movie. She said after meeting and babyboot,

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she says, I don't want you watching this movie over

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bring no Lovells.

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Okay, Wow, that's wild. Thank you for sharing that when

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you had those thoughts in your head. Did you have

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any returned from the creatures?

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Not yet, but we're still hoping they find us all

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the way here in Avon.

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Yeah, sure, definitely. Do you remember any So I'm just

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going to ask you some questions about different details to

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see if what we can remember. So, do you remember

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anything about the hay color or the lens?

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It was like a monkey like your chimpanzees, but it

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was a chestnut color. It was on hair, and you

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can tell the woman she had, you know, like the

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cheap monkeyes you see on TV on the Monkey shows,

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no live animals. They had a frontee that looked like

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the chest of a female ape. But they wore no

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clothing of any time, and the female stuck a high heaven.

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I remember she had a severe body odor. I wish

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I couldn't give it her bath that night? Was her?

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You can smell her all the way down the path.

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Gotcha? Were they? How were they interacting with each other?

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When you saw the group, they.

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Got on right with each other, except the females didn't

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get along with the older ape like creature. He was

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always trying to dominate her, and she didn't like it.

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You know how in some marriashes where the wife doesn't

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get along with the male because he tries me in

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the bottom. She she was independent of She didn't like

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to do well.

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I'll say that, gotcha?

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What was it that made you think that the one

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creature was like the older one in charge?

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Because it wasn't running as fast. Okay, it had difficulty

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walking like it hurt his leg or something. I had

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arth rights. They were so much like us. It was

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absolutely phenomenal.

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What was the hair like for the older one?

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It was thick. It was thick covering. They had it

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on every area except their chest. It was light covered

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on their chest you can see, but you know it

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was covered real thick chestnut hair down on their legs.

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So the older one had chestnut color as well. Yeah, okay,

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and very interesting. I'm thinking real quick, so let's ream. Remember,

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let's go back to what the faces looked like. It

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feels like you got a really good look at the face.

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Can you describe things like the eyes, the nose, the mouth.

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The eyes were black. The eyes were black.

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Now when you say black eyes, do you mean the

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entire eye was black or just the.

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The tar eye was black black?

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Okay, So a full black eye, no white spots showing, okay.

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And it had a grip, It had like a brown

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expression on as the male looked at us like it

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didn't trust It kept this distance and how in this

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entire time.

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Very interesting. So you're saying a frown from the male.

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So you weren't able to see the teeth at all.

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No, okay, but it didn't like me Gotcha, I felt

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burten by it. I felt written by it.

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How how white across the face? Did this the did

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the mouth go? Was it very drawn out?

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Or well it was a whine? Why? It was a

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why it was a grimace and then it conna went

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into an evil smile like it once trying to threaten us.

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I didn't.

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I felt like the little girl was there to protect

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us from the herd. I felt like she was our

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protector because we were dying to it.

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Gotcha, you've mentioned that there was or how long was

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the hair? Sorry, there's a lot of questions have in

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mind right now.

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Well, it's about oh like it. It's just like, I

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don't know how to say this. It's just like a chimpanzee. Yeah,

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it looked like the Missing Link if you it was

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a cross between a bakfoot and a missing link. No

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than what Charles Darwin's theory was mantained from the missing Link.

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Have you seen photos in books or movies that look

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similar to what you saw that day?

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No, just chimpanzees, Okay, the actual real chimpanzees as supposed

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as I can describe it as ears of nose in

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the mouth. That's what it looked like before it changed

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to a humanoid face.

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Okay, gotcha. So when it was a chimp, look it

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actually had you could see ears. What was the shape

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of the head.

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At that time, it was like a regular chip's head.

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Okay, gotcha. When it changed a humanoid face, did the

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shape of the head change at all?

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Nope, That's what was terrifying about it. I didn't know

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whether it planned on, whether it was a meaning there,

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whether planned on capturing it. But luckily Dad said it

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was like I was trying to hypnotize us, and you know,

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in the staying there so I could do something to us.

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And Dad said, I'm not staying around, And so we

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finally broke free and we all ran bat down the

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path through the fog, and luckily we came out into

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the parking lot of the Turkey Run, and we were

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just happy to be back. I didn't want to I

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would never want to leave Earth. I would never want

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to travel out in space because you have no control.

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And I would never want to go to another planet

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because I'd be too scared now.

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So absolutely i'd be right there with you.

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Right.

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So your dad got to thinking that they were trying

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to hypnotize you or keep you in that area, do.

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You know, so they can take us back? Okay wherever

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they came from.

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Did you ever say, I'm sure you guys talked about this,

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or maybe you didn't. Do you ever say there was

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a certain point where something happened where then I realized

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they were trying to hypnotize.

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Us Dad when his life broke the spell. Dad broke

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the spell. They were trying to work on him the

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most because he had seemed to have the most control,

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and they would in me for some reason. But I

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don't know why they were trying to get at me

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because I was communicating with a little.

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Girl of most trying to remember do you remember anything

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about the arms of the creatures like lane?

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They looked like I'm sorry, she was swaying him life

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walking almost walking like a person, but was swaying in

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the arms like eight one if they walked more a

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little while, short while on legs back and forth?

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And the hands were they covered with hair or how

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did they look?

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Oh?

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Yeah, they looked. She had the dark finger nails that

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a chimp on ham And can you imagine living right

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now when you go to shave or do anything else?

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Well, the question is is like if that's all you know,

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is it really a bad thing to you? Right? I

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don't know.

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Well, I want to take a shower once in a while.

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Well you know I would too, but I know what

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that's like. Right. So when you saw them as a group,

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were they doing any activities together, like creating structures or

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cooking or anything.

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They were washing in the creek. They were washing in

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the creek. They were washing their hands. I think is

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had had a kill or something or something. They were

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washing their hands and the hooding. They were bouncing up

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and down their legs like squatting at the water and going.

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Gotcha. Very interesting. Do you think there was any maybe

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like fish catching or fishing involved.

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Or put them in toot him in. I wasn't going

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to stick around to find out.

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Yeah, right, So it sounds like, so you were coming

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into this foggy area with the UFO and then did

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you see them alongside the creek or when you came

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upon them they were actually in the creek.

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They were actually they're already doing their thing.

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Okay, very very interesting. Do you remember anything about the

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forehead of the creatures.

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It was like a human forehead with the rinkles.

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Okay, was it pronouncings.

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Yeah, yeah, three and brink cobles, and like I said,

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all of them, even the little girl, had black eyes,

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black limbs.

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I definitely have more questions.

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If you have a little bit more time mine, that's fine. Sure.

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So So okay, did you see them walking around a lot?

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Well, they were kind of swatting at first, and then

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when they saw as they ran back into the book.

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At first they were just trying to make kids of conversation.

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They browning and snapping in each other. Boy, they didn't

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get along very good.

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When you see something walk, it's called the gate. How

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a human will walk, It has a certain gate to it.

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Usually did it? Did it have? These creatures have an

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unusual gate to them.

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How they were walking, it was like an eighth like

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walk when you see a chimpanzee. It wasn't human. It

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was on your chimpanzee walking tried to walk?

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Gotcha?

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Well we had it down that much strength.

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Okay. What was the posture of the creatures.

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Like kind of bent over.

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Like sloping forward right over? Yeah?

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Yeah, and one it wasn't straight up like a human.

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Okay. Did did you see any ways that they had

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been affecting the environment around them in that area.

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Yeah, it was totally calm, probably quiet. It was. It

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was odd like there was nothing for the present with

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you accept the clothes on your back, what.

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You brought, gotcha?

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Any like pushed over trees or broken tree limbs.

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Or things that might No, nothing like that.

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You mentioned a few times where they had been making

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sounds towards you and towards each other. What kind of

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sounds did you hear in general in that time?

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Is there munchy like I guess there are monkey like creatures?

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Gotcha? How long do you think you were there in

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their presence for about.

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An hour and a half.

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An hour and a half, okay, so that's a really

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long time for sure.

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I told you they were out to get me. They

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wanted me because I have psyche temlins and I could communicate,

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and they were trying to control Dad's mind, so they

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can you're control of me. They didn't care much about

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my mother or my brother. They were non believers at

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the time, but boy, mom sure changed after that.

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An hour and a half. So was it Were there

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certain activities that happened during that time or were you

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just kind of staring at each other and like, oh,

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I don't know what's going on here? Should we get

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out of here? Oh?

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I was trying to break free as their trance. Like

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I said, it was like they were trying to prove

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us in a hypnotism like control. I was just mark form.

472
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.240
All I say I said was Dad, I want to

473
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:37.799
go home, And he says we all do.

474
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.880
Oh that that's actually really scary.

475
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.039
They wouldn't let us go. I mean, they wouldn't let

476
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:44.400
us go.

477
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.039
Oh. So it wasn't like I'm lucky to be here.

478
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:49.880
I'm lucky to be here today.

479
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.200
It wasn't like you were just hanging out there. It's

480
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.279
like you guys want You didn't want to be there

481
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:55.759
for the hour and a half. You were trying to

482
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.680
get away. No, no, wow, Okay, so I.

483
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:02.440
Wanted to go home. Brian was starting to cry. It

484
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:03.160
was this little boy.

485
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.200
The funny thing is is that I've actually been to

486
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:10.599
Turkey Run State Park in Indiana back in the nineties,

487
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:12.440
so it was a while back.

488
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.920
What particular can you it's a very nice place it is.

489
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.440
Yeah, can you share what particular part of the park

490
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:20.319
this took place in?

491
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:26.559
It was around the inn. Okay, when you first come

492
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.960
out and you roll across and I was about, you know,

493
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:31.880
this is back in the day. This is hard from

494
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.920
each I remember, sure, no exactly what was there, but

495
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:38.720
I remember the a Itsel and some of those state

496
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:43.839
parks had a horse rise and I used to ride

497
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:49.200
a horse named Ranger with my grand with my grandparents.

498
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.359
I always wanted to horse, but Grandpa had a farm,

499
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.200
but he hadn't live on it, and he said, I'm not.

500
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.960
Getting a horse, right.

501
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.240
Yeah, horses can be fun, but they can also would

502
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.279
be quite a handful from what I remember. This state

503
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.640
park has very uh deep canyons for that area.

504
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.839
That you oh, that's where where you were at. That's

505
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.599
where we were at that that canyon. Okay, work shows

506
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.240
that clip overhanging, So you were.

507
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.559
In the canyon. Was it that the area that you

508
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:20.839
had seen these creatures in?

509
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.839
Yeah? Yeah, yeah that's where.

510
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:24.799
Now I'm going to tell you.

511
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:27.759
That I thought what you were done for. I thought, boy,

512
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:32.039
this is Edgar Rice Burrows Lost World. I said, we're

513
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.759
going into it. I always liked that movie, but I

514
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:35.559
never wanted to do it.

515
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:38.160
You never wanted to go yourself. So the thing about

516
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.599
that is that part of my life, like I wasn't

517
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.079
super into big fight, watch some stuff before it kind

518
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.559
of got out of it. I was like junior high

519
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:50.319
ish maybe, And but going down that cat that canyon,

520
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.839
I remember, it's a different You feel like you're going

521
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.319
somewhere else and you just story time. You get some

522
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.720
weird vibes down there. I remember as a little kid.

523
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:02.880
I bet it's haunted. I bet it's haunted.

524
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.519
I don't know. I would wish the people, if they've

525
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.920
also experienced stuff there, that they would reach out to me.

526
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.880
Your father was there an event that led him to

527
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.200
first believe in Bigfoot before this?

528
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.440
Yeah, he saw UFO before this. I did one his

529
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:24.559
stage is okay, but he had seen a UFO earlier

530
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.279
prior to this, and that's how we got into this.

531
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.680
I am that's how I saw the man in black

532
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:35.519
once before this experience was but he had had an encounter.

533
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.200
He said, can I tell you another story that happened

534
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:44.839
with the Bigfoot after this experience? This is where we're

535
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.240
getting into. Sorry, my dad had an UFO experience and

536
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.720
then that same year he went to Indiana State Fair

537
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.440
and you know Indiana Coliseum, Miss Bog and Dad said

538
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.559
that he felt like he went through time travel. After this,

539
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.440
he was at the Indiana State Affair Boys a year this.

540
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:09.079
My mom and herrother were coming back from some of

541
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.519
the NAT stands and he said that he had spoken

542
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.160
to a young woman that was dressed mill Or fashion clothing.

543
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.759
That the fire Coliseum was back in the nineteen sixties,

544
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.400
and anyway, he had met a young lady and she

545
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.559
said her name was Lenia and she had to get

546
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.839
back to her family in Fort Wayne. Now my question

547
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.000
is does a young man by the name of Lenia

548
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.240
hunt the State fairgrounds from the coliseum explosion?

549
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:36.400
That?

550
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.799
My goodness, wow, yeah, that is really interesting. What year

551
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:43.720
was that again? That your dad experience.

552
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:49.079
Hunt that was back in the oh nineteen, late nineteen eighties.

553
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.440
Wow, oh that's wild. Can you share that you said

554
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.519
there was a man in black aspect to everything?

555
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:01.400
Yeah, yeah, they had not looked like men when they

556
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.759
came to him, you know, in that experience, they had no.

557
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:13.400
Faces, really faceless and individuals.

558
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.920
And they were dressed in all black, the typical black hat,

559
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:21.599
the black suit, the black tunes. But they didn't say anything.

560
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.480
They observed him. They were at his front doorstep and

561
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.279
they just observed him for about five to ten minutes

562
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.880
and then they disappeared. They had spainked one thing that

563
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.720
Dad looked at him. You always liked Frank Edwards, you know,

564
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.640
flying saucers. He said, I never thought we'd been doing this,

565
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.640
but all this is true. And that one guy said,

566
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.160
our way on Earth yet and then they disappeared.

567
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:50.480
Oh wow, that's that's very interesting. Oh here's here's a

568
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.559
question over your time in with the big Foot in

569
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.839
Turkey round. Were you able to get any pictures or

570
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:58.079
was there any evidence comest?

571
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.720
Now, we didn't have any pictures. Okay, no, we did

572
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.200
not bring but we do have the memories. We do

573
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:04.319
have the memories.

574
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.880
Absolutely, which are priceless. For sure.

575
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.000
I wish we would have had a camera. We would

576
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:14.240
have been millionaires by now. Had gone to this retirement

577
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.799
home and I can live like I wanted to. Absolutely,

578
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.920
I don't like retirement home coaching.

579
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.000
However, did you?

580
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.160
I don't know. Maybe I should have been captured by

581
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.799
the US. Maybe they would have had better put on

582
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.880
another planet one here on the same menu. I swear

583
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:35.079
it is the same, the same lunch and dinner every day.

584
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.799
Never ferries very much, and it's the same thing. Now

585
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.359
one don't you rather recaptured by the umu oh that

586
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.039
eat this same menu every thing.

587
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.680
Come on, you have a beautiful spirit, Cindy. I'm really

588
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:51.039
thankful for you for you sharing everything today. Did you

589
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.400
ever look to see if there are any other encounters

590
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.079
like this in Turkey run over the years.

591
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.640
Yes, but they had nothing but their encounters and things

592
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.160
like that. But I said, we were chosen to have this.

593
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.160
It's very so we can tell others. Do you still

594
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:06.359
want to use my story?

595
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.039
Absolutely? Yeah, it's it's an increasing So what's your name?

596
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:10.880
What's your name?

597
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.240
My name is Jeremiah. Our name it's Jeremiah.

598
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.319
So after this, and what's name of your story?

599
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:18.519
The name of your channel?

600
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.240
It's called Big for Society. So what I would like

601
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.359
to is this a regular telephone number? Is it a

602
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:24.960
cell phone?

603
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:25.880
Yes? Yes?

604
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:27.799
Is it a cell phone.

605
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.559
Ring? Your land phone? But this is a true story.

606
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.079
I'm not in any details. I'm not making any of

607
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.440
this uff. Was this a good interview today?

608
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.279
I'll tell you this is one of the coolest ones

609
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.519
I've ever had, and it was unexpected. So I'm glad

610
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:41.960
you called.

611
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.319
Oh, but you will have me, will have me. I

612
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.799
want to be on on your I like you and

613
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.200
I like your show, and I want to really be

614
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:52.240
on your broadcast.

615
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.599
Well, thank you for calling, Cynthia. I really appreciate it,

616
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.160
and you have a great July fourth.

617
00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:01.839
Okay, will you call me back when this open? Can

618
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.640
I have your phone number again? I've forgotten it.

619
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.400
It's uh five one five eight nine oh one.

620
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:11.759
Sixty five one five five five what five.

621
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.480
One five eight oh nine oh one sixty five.

622
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.920
Eight O nine one again please oh one sixty five.

623
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.680
Oh one sixth five. I can't wait. I can't wait.

624
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.759
Awesome. Well, thank you for colin, Cynthia. It's been a

625
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.240
pleasure chatting with you, and look forward to I'll be

626
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:33.279
sending something in the mail.

627
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.319
Okay, but you.

628
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.200
Really do think I'll get on your show if I.

629
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.519
Can get if I get that release back, it will, Yeah, definitely,

630
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:51.119
thank you, Thank you man. Cindy's story as far from over,

631
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.039
as you can see from the following voicemails I received

632
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.960
from her, and I now have more questions than ever,

633
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.799
as she'll soon find out.

634
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.319
I jare me sorry to bother you. When last time

635
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:10.920
Dave and I saw a podcast about yours comments and

636
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.079
you said you'd like to have a dominant story, Well,

637
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:17.519
have I got a story for you and stemmed from

638
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:19.559
a left phone. Remember I was telling you about the

639
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:24.480
UFO and this true story. Now, back in about nineteen

640
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.960
eighty seventy nine through nineteen eighty, my father was a

641
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:33.039
school teacher in Indianapolis School seventy nine, Grade twenty thirty,

642
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.840
Room five and he also have license to be a principal.

643
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:41.480
And well, anyway, it was some evening on a weekend

644
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:45.920
that he was traveling down in country road in Brown County, Indiana,

645
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.639
and he had a new puffy with him. She was

646
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:52.840
a Dots puffy and her name was Sandy. Well, here's

647
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.000
where the story begins. Dad was coming down the road.

648
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.920
All of a sudden his car got sold. It died

649
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:03.119
in the middle of the roadway, and that was starting

650
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.960
to panic because the doors wouldn't from the windows to

651
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:11.079
the car wouldn't open. The radio was shutting on and off,

652
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:15.079
and the car was stalling. So finally the car went

653
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.840
completely silent, and then he heard a low, humming noise

654
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.920
that sounded like it was coming from above the car.

655
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:26.559
He was driving an old bow Bill at the time,

656
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.599
and it was fairly new car back then. That anyway,

657
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.519
he hit the dog from trapped by a UFO. He

658
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.679
finally got the window open, and he said, it was

659
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.920
just stifling inside the car. You couldn't breathe, and the

660
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.559
dog was having trouble. He picked her up and let

661
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.639
her breathe out the car windows, trying to get some air. Well, anyway,

662
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.440
here's what happened. The UFO was tearing on matenus noises

663
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.280
and he saw white and yellow lights underneath the saucer.

664
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.239
It was a traditional black flying saucer. Well as it

665
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:04.400
was bent is he doing? Whatever was going on at

666
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.639
the time. He was set back in time to nineteen

667
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.679
fifty cents to nineteen fifty seven for about an hour.

668
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:14.800
He still was unable to open the car doors to

669
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:18.599
hit out. So but anyway, he even get to really panny.

670
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.360
Now the ties and scenes were lay back to that time.

671
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:26.000
He saw no more modern cars on the highway, even

672
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:29.320
the farm houses and the radiaro houses than a middle

673
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.719
on the way, and the billboards were gone. Everything was

674
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.199
back to the time. And then he was stuck in

675
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.719
that time frame for about half an hour. He can

676
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.119
see and hear the cars passed by, and the people

677
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.679
talking in the cars. They were that close they seemed

678
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.880
not to notice them, so finally the UFO left and

679
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.760
about five minutes later he suddenly came to himself and

680
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:57.920
he was on the outskirts some Indie neplace from Brownsburg,

681
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:02.000
and he had no idea about the time frame and

682
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.679
his watch. One thing, my dad said that right before

683
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.320
he blacked out, he saw an alien staring through the

684
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.519
car window at him. And they looked like they're telling

685
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.840
typical alien entities with the wide almond eyes, and this

686
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:22.000
one was kind of grayish green, looked like a man.

687
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.079
But anyway, he was staring in through the car window

688
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.760
before my dad passed out and found himself back in Indianapolis.

689
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.119
Or here's the thing. He made it back home, and

690
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.840
he was absolutely terrified. And Mom was that's in his

691
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.559
favorite meat lope dinner for supper. She said, Dave, what's wrong?

692
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.320
She said, you look like you see the dost and

693
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.800
he said worse. And when the doorbell rang for about

694
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.639
six weights later, Dad refused to open the door and

695
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.599
always ran into the bedroom or either had Mom answer it,

696
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.840
or he didn't answer the door. He wouldn't even go

697
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.599
out and get the bill. But anyway, he was trading

698
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.079
the man in black. By the way, he did see

699
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:05.719
him when he regained his memory. He dreamed about him

700
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:10.760
every single night for about old six weeks prior to

701
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.119
that time that he had nightmares. He woke up sweating,

702
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.280
he had trouble breathing, he had a very harsh breathing spells,

703
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.480
he panicked and that anyway, after about a month, they

704
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.760
decided to go on with their life. So the puppy

705
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:32.239
was still there and she was still kind of fidgety. Well, anyway, Nan,

706
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.679
it'sa's thing, but that's a that's a UFO cause was

707
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.000
you know I told you about that instant we had

708
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.840
a bigfoot, and I didn't tell you about another fainkfoot

709
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.760
siding or I don't remember we had two of them.

710
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.599
One was at this grandmother's farm. I don't think I

711
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.320
told you this because I didn't think about it at

712
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:56.360
the time and has kind of escaped my mind. That

713
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:01.239
it's true too. He was on my grandmother's farm and Chester, Indiana,

714
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.760
and again the same scenario. He saw a white out

715
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.039
buy no baffoot and she was hiding around one of

716
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:11.639
the buildings. He put up no trespassing size on my

717
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.960
grandmother's farm. There was at one hundred year old barn

718
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.039
there and a creature fell through the floor and he

719
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:24.400
helped it out and he fed it and everything. But anyway,

720
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:27.559
it was much like the other one that we saw.

721
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.760
And we're wondering if it's not a new species of

722
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.199
Bigfoot in Indiana because we had two sidings of it.

723
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.920
And you know, have you ever wondered about bigfoot? Where

724
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:44.079
Bigfoot really comes from? Descended a neandercal Man. Is it

725
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:49.519
still an evolution or is it an alien from another planet?

726
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.760
I mean, we had two sidings of it. Were in

727
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.679
the last part. In case you're wondering, here's a part

728
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.320
where Dogman comes and you wouldn't hear report about Dogman. Okay,

729
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:03.519
when you've got here's the part after the animals dispersed

730
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.880
and we saw they were safely going back to their

731
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.000
woods home on my grandmother's farm, and it had one

732
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.440
hundred year old barn on tones avout. And but anyway,

733
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:20.400
after a month after after that, Dad had another sighting

734
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.360
from the UFO. We don't know why it was following

735
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.880
us and the man in black. We did determine that

736
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.559
we saw on one occasion. They don't look anything like

737
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.719
they do in the movies. They're far more too terrifying.

738
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.960
And anyway, what happened was we were sitting at home

739
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.320
in the living room, having suffered one evening. We were

740
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.320
just watching the news on television and Mom was cooking

741
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.159
some type of breakfast meal because Dad said he was

742
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.480
getting tired of everything else and wanted life. You know,

743
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:58.920
pantans traveled eggs, pat patties, you know, banking something like that.

744
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:04.000
So we excuse me. And anyway, we heard a little

745
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.719
growling sound and Dad turned down TV sound and he said,

746
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.440
what's that noise? Is it sandy? And I said, no,

747
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.159
it doesn't sound like a dog. So Dad went over

748
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.440
there to the slaty glass door, and Mom opened up

749
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.599
the curtains the drinks, and when she pulled the drinks

750
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.119
they got we all received the shock of our lives.

751
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.119
There before this once dog man and all his glory.

752
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:31.320
He stood between five feet and six feet tall. I'm

753
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.760
not kidding you looked just like a were Well, he thought,

754
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:38.039
being food's terrified will be, but it's tame compared to

755
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:42.800
this guy. He was frothing at the mouth and just

756
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.920
glaring us with those evil green eyes. And it had

757
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.760
black retinas or whatever you call them in the middle,

758
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.400
but it was. It didn't look like eyes do on

759
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:59.000
a dog. It looks entirely different. They were dark, but anyway,

760
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.119
it was alligant, snarling adamson. Mom said I'm going him

761
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.559
with a broom and Dad said, no, you're not. He

762
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.159
went into the back bedroom, grabbed his silver coin box

763
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.920
and took took it to the window and showed it

764
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.119
to him, and that thing let out a street. I

765
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.239
swear I will never forget this as long as I live.

766
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.760
It how like there was no tomorrow, and it dispersed

767
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.519
into the woods and we never saw as in him.

768
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.880
I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want anybody to see this.

769
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.480
But anyway, just remember next time if you take a

770
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.760
hike in the woods ring food or baythfoot, you don't

771
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.400
want a hungry bayfoot after you and also has a

772
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:44.039
project taint, some kind of silver medal or something that's

773
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:48.159
it can't be sterling Stirling doesn't work on dogman asking

774
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:52.360
for solid silver like a coin or something else. That's

775
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.119
me there's a climates of the story caused by the

776
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.719
UFO bayfoot and the signing of dogmen. Well, anyway, after that,

777
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.679
we slowly recovered and tried going back to our lives.

778
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:09.320
But this thing or whatever the UFO was, these strange

779
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:12.400
creatures seemed to play against all of our lives while

780
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:18.320
we lived in him in town sighting in the neighborhood

781
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:23.039
there was a creek with woods behind us that we

782
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.440
weren't imagining things, and we would have no reason to

783
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:31.320
tell to tell tales because it really happened. Because after that,

784
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.159
that entity that called himself Jeffrey the family and I

785
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.800
was telling you about he followed us all of our

786
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.039
lives and I've seen him when I met him, and wow,

787
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.480
what happened was on months ago in June, I was

788
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.239
allowed a ghost investigation in my apartment here and neighbores

789
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.360
they wanted to know about our experiences too. They were

790
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.320
trying to entering. Nobody made fun of us or anything.

791
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.960
They wanted to believe it. And so you don't have

792
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.239
to worry. Alien's overaing are here. This one's been observing.

793
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.880
It has predicted the deaths of four aunts and uncle's

794
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.760
day died, my parents both die, my grandparents. All four

795
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:17.400
died as a result of this alien appearing to me

796
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.400
and predicting that they would die. And then he also

797
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.000
possesses a haunted doll here. He knows that it's my favorite,

798
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.079
because you know, I've let porcelain, antique dolls and other

799
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.639
memorable aliena And anyway, it's attached to a ray doll

800
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:38.920
here and that was home made by somebody at a

801
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.039
thrift store, and it seems attached to that. And the

802
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.480
medium that came to the ghost investigation held the doll

803
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.039
and said it feels sadness. Would I hold this doll?

804
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.679
And it feels like death? And I said, well, of course,

805
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:57.960
it has predicted all those people's deaths in our family

806
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.119
and has seen it. The other doll that was Auntie

807
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.440
Sailor doll. It was dressed up sailor suit from the

808
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.480
late nineteen fifties, and it was a toddler sized doll

809
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.039
with blond hair. And I named him Andy. And when

810
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.599
I talked to the voices on the evening pmire as

811
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.880
the jokes, I actually got to use liquid. But it

812
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:23.400
was exciting. I'd love to prove other worlds. But anyway,

813
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.599
the voice coming from the doll in the mirror, when

814
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.639
the medium asked him who he was, I said, Hi, Andy,

815
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.639
say hi to the nine lady's here, and there are

816
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.559
three of them, and Andy says on the ev pire,

817
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:43.400
my name is Andy. My name is not Andy, it's Andrew.

818
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.119
And we didn't know anybody by the name of Andrew Allen.

819
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.239
Alien was playing tritt thought as it was trying to say, anyway, sorry,

820
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.840
this is since then again, I hope I'm entertaining you

821
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.760
with my mysterious stories but true stories. And we're rapping

822
00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:03.280
up stuff now. The last time the alien spelt he

823
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.960
said his name was Jeffery, so he's kind of left

824
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:11.000
it at them or what the heck. But anyway, Jeffrey

825
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.079
said that his name was Jeffrey, and he said if

826
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.760
he warned me, he said, oh, that he would be

827
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.840
watching me, so I don't know what he meant by that.

828
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.360
And he said if I tried to destroy the doll,

829
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:28.239
which he wasn't abity his alien spirit or whatever was

830
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.400
inside the doll, it said that if I tore tore

831
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.480
it up or his post and in any way I

832
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.000
burned it, I would die in five years. If I

833
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.280
had started it by any other means that I would

834
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.119
die in three years. So currently I have the possessed

835
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.840
dollar whatever it was. But anyway, Jeffery is here. He says,

836
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.519
tell you hi, and he hopes that he gets his

837
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:55.400
story on one of year podcasts, because people need to

838
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:03.400
know these things too. Is this thank you, Hi, Jeremiah.

839
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:07.159
I signed here official report the other day, and I

840
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.639
got a new one for you. I'm love to tell

841
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.239
you my first encounter with the UFO. You heard about

842
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:18.280
my dad's inciting adventures. Well, this is something that is

843
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.280
out of time and space. It's called the night I

844
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.000
was nearly adopted by the Black Eyed Children. The Black

845
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.199
Eyed Children, let me tell you are not is in

846
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.239
childlike as a theme. The creatures I saw that night

847
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.199
will really astound you. It was far more than anything

848
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.679
we could ever imagine here on earth. They're far more

849
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.480
superior and more advanced than we are. But anyway, there

850
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.440
I was. I just had my left knee operating on.

851
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.199
I had a bad fall and I had to have

852
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:54.679
surgery unfortunately, and I was recuperating at home in my bedroom,

853
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.960
and I had a new pat cat named Patty Kate.

854
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.920
You was a tiger stripe. Jinny was an orange spot

855
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.360
on her forehead which made him real cute and unique,

856
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.079
and Dad called her Pattycake. Well, anyway, patty Cake was

857
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.880
abound a young kid and at the time and mom

858
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.599
got me a parentine for a companion. I always wanted

859
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.679
to teach a parentine how to talk. Well, anyway, I

860
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.400
got my wish. I got a new parentine and his

861
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.440
name was Peeni, and he was white in you know, intelligent.

862
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.000
And that night, after watching the news, I decided to

863
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.800
read and bed for a couple of minutes. Amazing. And

864
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:39.599
so anyway, Peeni was starting to hit up, not just

865
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.360
buy it, and really wanted to annoy us, you know,

866
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:46.280
myself and the cat. Sometimes you had to make noises,

867
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.000
loud noises to annoy us. Sometimes he whistle, and my

868
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:55.159
brother would come in to the room and he'd say

869
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.840
hi to him. Then he started belching or you know,

870
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.559
making up where your noises didn't going to burn. Theydn't

871
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.239
really go at it. But anyway, while PENI was carrying on,

872
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.519
suddenly the room got real still in the TV set

873
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.960
went off and lights went off, and I couldn't get

874
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.599
out of bed. I was suddenly paralyzed. But it wasn't

875
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.639
with fear. It was like something was trying to tie

876
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.440
me down to the vent write some unseen force. Well, anyway,

877
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.039
at this pecular time, you know, the window was still

878
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.480
shut and the air inside was starting to getting stifling,

879
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.440
and when I looked around the room, strange fog like

880
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.159
substance was in the room, and I thought, oh, no,

881
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:44.840
have the aliens come back to finish the job. But anyway,

882
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.679
within a few minutes, when my eyes became adjusted to

883
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:50.679
the darkness of the room, guess what I saw? You

884
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:55.920
guess the two alien children of black eyed children? They

885
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.119
were dark skinned, didn't I got another story for you.

886
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.360
You have you heard of the airplane pilot that stole

887
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.840
the plane from the airport. His name is Rich and

888
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.000
he crashed landed on Catrin Island. K E. T. R

889
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:16.159
Win Well, anyway, that's my last name, and I can

890
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.199
communicate with the pilot and he started me off on

891
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.599
this quest on YouTube, and that's how I meant you. Originally,

892
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.039
Rich had suggested that I hadn't contact with you. He's

893
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:31.320
sort of like an agent and he helps me on

894
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:36.199
my endeavors. But anyway, that's how I ment you was

895
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.239
through brich Well. Anyway, he's sort of like a guardian

896
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.880
spirit now and he crashed landed his plane on Catrin

897
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:47.320
Island and he associates me with him now because my

898
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.320
last name is Kettrim and when he was on my

899
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:55.159
ghost investigation team that day. We were trying to help

900
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:00.679
cross him over, but he was so lively taught for

901
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.400
about two hours that night through that machine. And you know,

902
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.360
we also met the alien treacher named Jeffrey. About my

903
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:14.199
UFO inspirence I had back in nineteen eighty. My dad

904
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.239
and I both had two separate locations. There was a

905
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:22.360
red probe in the backyard that was light taking pictures everything,

906
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.000
and that's how I met Jeffrey the alien and we

907
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:31.480
got him on our ghost investigation meter. And now when

908
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.760
they asked him what his name was, he says Jeffrey,

909
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.280
and the two ladies said, we don't know who he is,

910
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.320
and I said, well, I know who he is. But anyway,

911
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.400
after that, you know, we met Rich and he crush

912
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.519
landed his plane on Catrin Island and he came to

913
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.480
me when I saw on the news tast you know,

914
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.559
and I asked him if you wanted to communicate, and

915
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.840
he's been assist to me ever since. So he once

916
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.519
everyone should knows that he's sorry for committing suicide, and

917
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.760
you know, it wasn't right, but at the end he

918
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.559
changed his mind and he didn't want to do it,

919
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.320
but he ran out of fuel and he didn't have

920
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.920
a choice, So we hope we can help him and

921
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:16.159
cross over to the other side. I was hoping that

922
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.039
maybe you can use his story for what are your

923
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.880
other shows? Parentormal shows that I thought you might be

924
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.360
going to use it for one are your other shows?

925
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.480
This is completely different. And he was there at the

926
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.679
investigation and he was one of their number one guests

927
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.039
that night, and the enjoyed talking to women. So do

928
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:35.960
I anyway? Thank you.

929
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.760
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

930
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.039
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I

931
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.920
would love to get out in those woods and experience

932
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:52.519
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

933
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.119
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

934
00:52:56.159 --> 00:53:01.079
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

935
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.320
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

936
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:08.920
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

937
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.639
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

938
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:17.159
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

939
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:23.440
heard anywhere else, because let's just say, sometimes it's well,

940
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.519
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

941
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:28.360
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

942
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:33.559
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

943
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:38.559
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

944
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.719
not only go to the festival, but you can also

945
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:49.320
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

946
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:54.079
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

947
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:58.039
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

948
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up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

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for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

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Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

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It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

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To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

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dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

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like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

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day pass for the price of a one day pass.

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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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that you guys can can get a little help with

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the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

959
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you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

960
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talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

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many people last year and the year before. It is

962
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an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

963
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and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

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I want to say something directly to a very specific

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group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

966
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or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

967
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.159
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

968
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.639
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

969
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you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

970
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.440
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

971
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working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

972
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to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

973
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.719
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

974
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.880
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

975
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on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

976
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.400
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

977
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.079
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

978
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.639
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

979
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.400
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

980
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or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something

981
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that your faith or if you work in the shadows CIA,

982
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NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

983
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public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

984
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if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

985
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at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

986
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you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

987
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You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

988
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.440
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

989
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of the Bigot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

990
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us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

991
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.199
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

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tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell

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And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple podcast,

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please follow the show there and leave us a five

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star positive review. All that helps more people discover the show.

999
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And remember, if you or someone you know has had

1000
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.480
a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

1001
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so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

1002
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.000
and let's start the conversation. If you haven't gotten a

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chance yet, check out our membership community over at www

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dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's where you

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can hear tomorrow's episode today early in ad free and

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members only episodes every week. Also, it's a place to

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00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.280
connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject

1008
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:35.000
as much as you are. Thanks again for following along

1009
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.000
with the Bigfoot Society until next time. Keep your eyes open,

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trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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be out there? And see you in the woods.