Feb. 15, 2026

Something Is Living Behind the Subdivision | Upstate South Carolina Encounters

Something Is Living Behind the Subdivision | Upstate South Carolina Encounters
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Season 1

In this episode, we explore the extraordinary experiences of Amy from upstate South Carolina, who shares a series of unsettling encounters that have unfolded over several years near her suburban home. Living in a growing neighborhood bordered by woods, a creek, and an abandoned farm, Amy recounts strange animal activity, unexplained sounds, powerful odors, and intense nighttime experiences that began quietly and gradually escalated. She describes encounters on neighborhood trails, disturbances around her home, and moments witnessed by family members and close friends. Amy also reflects on the emotional and psychological impact of these events, including moments of heightened awareness and communication that defy simple explanation. Her story offers a compelling look at Bigfoot activity occurring in populated areas and invites listeners to reconsider where these beings may exist and how they interact with the people around them.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. Welcome

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back to another episode. I have the privilege of talking

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to Amy today. Amy is a listener we got connected.

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She's from upstate South Carolina and wanting to share some

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things that she has been experiencing over the years. So

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welcome to the show.

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Amy. How are you doing today?

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Hi here, Maia, I'm doing really good.

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Awesome, Amy.

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Is there anything else that the listeners would need to

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know about yourself for context before we get going?

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Yeah, So, I'm upstate South Carolina born and raised, have

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lived here for the majority of my life. I've also

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lived in Vermont and New Hampshire for a little while.

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I'm a mom of two, and yeah, I'm in the

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beauty industry. I am not your typical person. I feel

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like that would have experiences. Kind of didn't ask for

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it or think it was ever going to happen to me,

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but it did, and I'm here.

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To talk about it.

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Absolutely.

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But so Amy, let's let's start with are you able

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to take us back to when you first noticed that

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some things were happening or you had an experience that

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was out of the ordinary.

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So I kind of have had experiences throughout my life.

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I wasn't going to get into like my childhood experiences

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and stuff today, but I am from a very small

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town of Carolina and I was raised on like sixty

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acres of woods.

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Always playing in the woods.

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You know. I was one of those kids, like have

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siblings that we would play cops and robbers and ride

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our mountain bikes and ATVs dirt bikes all that stuff.

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So so yeah, so when I was a kid, I

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did have a few things happen. But today I wanted

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to kind of talk more about where I'm living now

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and what I'm experiencing now, and it's kind of interesting

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because I never thought that I would have the experiences

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that I have in the place where I live now,

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because it is a more populated area, like much of

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the South, it's kind of getting really populated, and everyone

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is moving here upstate South Carolina, everyone's moving here. So

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I have lived in my subdivision for like six or

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seven years, and there's still woods around it. There's an

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abandoned farm behind us.

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There is a lake that is near us.

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And when we first moved here, some things that started

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happening were I had dead animals showing up on my

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back porch and at first I thought that it was

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maybe just a cat and they would just be showing

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up on my back porch, heads ripped off.

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Things like that. So that was a little peculiar.

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And of course, being from like the country, like I

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am familiar with things that can happen.

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You know, cats can bring you things, but it was

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just strange.

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It was like a repetitive thing, like bunnies with their

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heads ripped off, you know, rats with their heads ripped off.

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Just things that you wouldn't think like a cat would

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bring to you. And I didn't really see any feral cat.

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That's so I kind of just like thought, Okay, well

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it might be an animal whatever.

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And I remember the first time. I remember the first

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time that I came to our house.

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It was right after we purchased it, and I just

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came to do like cleaning and such. And I was

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here at night because I'd worked a long day, so

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I just I came at night and I was cleaning.

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I was I would open the windows and stuff, and

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I just remember feeling very like watched. And that kind

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of stuck out in my mind because I noticed that,

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you know, as soon as I walked in, I felt comfortable,

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and then like after I started opening windows and everything,

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I just felt very watched. And both my neighbors on

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both sides they're elderly, so they're not up past like

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eight or so.

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Yeah, so I felt really watched.

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And when we moved in, there was and I thought this.

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I thought this was strange and this could be nothing.

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So the back door, like the day that we moved in,

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was wide open and there was like a hornet's nest

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that had been thrown into our house.

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I thought that was very weird, like the.

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Whole nest was maybe not a hornet, like a like

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a I don't know, just like a hornet or be

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nest was thrown into our house.

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So I thought that was very strange stuff I ignored.

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You know, we had lived here for like a year

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or two, and I started to hear things on the roof.

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Not a raccoon, not like a critter. I'm familiar with

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what that would sound like. I would hear footsteps on

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the roof. I would hear weird gurgling and like talking

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noises on our camera from the backyard.

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It would really freak me out, and.

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Just things that sounded audibly like a human but gurgling,

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and so I attributed it to, well, it's just matrixing,

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like it's just you know, a car off in the

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distance or someone talking off in the distance, something like that.

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But anyways, one night I was hearing something on the roof.

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And my husband works third shift at this time, so

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and he's on twelve hour swing shift, so I am

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like alone a good bit at night sometimes depending on

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a schedule, and so.

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I heard like, uh, all this stuff on the roof,

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and it really scared me.

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Because I was like, this is crazy, Like it doesn't

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sound like there's something in my attic, Like it sounds

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like something is like stomp, stomp stop on my roof.

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And I also heard that night right outside my window

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this really weird owl call. And immediately in my mind

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what I thought was this is a teenager messing with me.

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I did not. I was like, I was like, someone

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has their their.

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Their kid running around or something messing with me. But

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I was like, in the middle of the night. That

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doesn't make sense for that to happen in the middle

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of the night. So anyways, that was strange, and it

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was just it was a janky owl call. It was

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not like your typical I mean, I've heard that before.

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And I remember I even sent it to my brother

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because I caught it on my camera. I sent it

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to my brother and he's like, oh, it's just a

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bard owl, and I was like, no, I know, it

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sounds like a bard owl. But if you heard this

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in the close proximity it was to my to my window,

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you you would understand that it just didn't seem like

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a bard owl.

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But you know, I kind of.

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Just attributed it to Okay, it's an owl whatever. So

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there was like little things that were happening. And we

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also we also get out outdoors a lot, so we

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do walk so we have like a nature trail in

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the neighborhood and it's really pretty, so we'll walk around

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with the kids and everything.

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And so oh the.

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Time that it actually really changed for me the time

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where I kind of couldn't keep saying this is nothing

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everything else. Before this point, I was just you know,

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you know, it's nothing whatever. Well, So in twenty twenty three,

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it was the it was like, let's see March. I

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think it was mid March, and the weather was starting

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to get nice out and that day I had been

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out walking on the trail with the kids and my

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daughter at the time, I think she was.

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Like two, and.

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So we were walking and everything seemed fine. I didn't

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get any weird feelings. Nothing that was in the daytime.

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So that night my husband got home from work and

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I was like, hey, I'm going to take our dog out.

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And we do have like a pit bull, he's like

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seventy five pounds. I was like, I'm going to take

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him out because I kind of want to just have

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some alone time, decompressed, you know.

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I do like going on like night walks with him.

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So we it was it was dark, it was.

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Probably like between eight and nine o'clock, probably not the smartest,

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you know, going for a walk at night. But I

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had my pepper spray, I had like my knife, Like

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I was fine, you know, I felt fine, feel safe

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in my neighborhood.

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I don't feel unsafe.

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So we started out on the trail and I there's

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a footbridge. Before we got to the footbridge, And mind you,

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I lived like two houses down from the trail. Behind

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my house's woods. The trails mostly woods and there's like

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houses around. But you know, so I smelled the smell

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and I noticed it, and I clocked it right away

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that I had not smelled it earlier in the day

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and I had just been out there like a few

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hours earlier. It smelled like like someone that hadn't taken

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a bath in.

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Months, mixed with like a rotting carcass. It was really bad.

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And it struck me because.

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I was kind of like, huh, that smells terrible. I

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didn't smell that earlier. That's just I don't think I've

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ever like smelled anything like that.

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And so we started.

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Walking on the footbridge, and I guess I thought I

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was psyching myself out. And I was like, okay, well,

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what if there's a person who is experiencing homelessness and

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they're back here.

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That was my thought.

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So I kind of made a mental note of it.

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And Max wasn't alerting to anything. That's my dog, Max.

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He wasn't you know, freaked out at all.

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So we got off the footbridge and I smelled it again.

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But then I heard like rustling footsteps and I was like, okay, well.

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That probably is someone who's homeless back there, and I

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just kind of like started walking faster and Max still,

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you know, if it's a human, like he's gonna do something,

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and you know he's gonna like, you know, be curious, uh,

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wag his tail something, there's nothing like that. So we

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start walking down the trail and we get about almost

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halfway down and it's a very dark night, like I

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have to say that too, like the moon. It was

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a half moon and there was not a lot of

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light coming from it, but the clouds were very low

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and very like foggy, so it was almost as if,

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you know, you couldn't see that. Well, so we're walking

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and I started to hear footsteps and gravel kicking up,

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and so then I kind of knew like, okay, something

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is actually.

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Back there.

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But I was thinking maybe a dog, you know, still

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not not too worried, and I turned my little flashlight

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on and Okay, we get halfway down the trail and

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this is the darkest part of like the wooded area.

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There's a lot of old trees and brush and just

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they hadn't cleaned it up in a while back there,

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and uh, my dog like just freezes. And this is

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and I'm kind of like shaking talking about it because

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this is like the moment where I realized this is

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a moment that changed me, and this is this is

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the experience where I have had like an existential crisis

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about it, and it's it's been kind of difficult. Okay,

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so he freezes, and my dog is going to respond

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to things. There was there was the response from him,

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and was a low growl and the hairs on the

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back of his his back like straight up and that's

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peculiar for him. So he wouldn't move. And at the

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same time that he wouldn't move, something ten fifteen feet

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up in this big tree.

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Jumps down.

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Stealthily jumps down, and I could almost feel the air thickened,

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like there was just this tension there and when it

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jumped down, it also took out like some big limbs,

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and when it hit the ground, and it just hit

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the ground so smoothly, and I could hear the two

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feet hit the dirt because it was not far from me.

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It made a really big calamity, and I remember thinking,

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what is that that is? That's like as big as

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a bear. But I live in upstate South Carolina. I

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don't live somewhere where there's just like there are people,

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but it's you know, there's not bears running around here.

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It was huge, and it was very smooth like the

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way that it moved and it hit the ground, and

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my dog is locked in on whatever this is almost

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like he's just entranced by it. And I'm standing there

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and immediately I just had this thought of this is

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what was either why us?

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I mean, it even seems like it even seems like

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was there two because.

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We heard something behind us? So how did the one?

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How did something behind us that we heard walking get

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in this tree? I don't, I don't know, but.

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So I'm standing there with him in every fear. It

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was just overwhelming.

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And this is a little segue, and I'm not going

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to go into it too much, but when I was

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twenty I was stalked and followed and I was someone

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attempted to assault me, and I thought the person off.

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And I remember that moment of.

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The moment I realized that, and it was it was

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in my car, the moment I realized that someone, a

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man had followed me and he was standing next to

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my vehicle and I saw him, and I remember the

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moment that I realized I was being watched and I

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had been followed. And that is the exact feeling that

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I felt in the woods with my dog in twenty

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twenty three when this happened, that exact feeling, so I

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knew what it was and I recognized it immediately. And

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as soon as I had that like recognition and I

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could almost see it was like something there in the brush,

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but there was I shine my flashlight.

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There was just leaves and stuff and like briars.

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And if you're ever shining your flashlight, like at night,

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and there's briars and there's brush in the way, you

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can't see what's behind it. It's blocking you, so it

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just like reflects back at you. So that moment just

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felt like it lasted forever. It could have felt like

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it lasted an hour. It was just seconds, and so

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my dog is locked in on this thing, and I

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could just almost see it back there.

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It's like this big.

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Black shadow mass, like you can tell that there's something there.

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It's different than like the texture of everything else around it.

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But I couldn't see it, and I had this overwhelming

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fear rush through me.

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And then and I know.

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People talk about like mind speak or telepathy, and this

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is something I've never experienced, and it was very different

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from my own voice. That's the thing I want to push.

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It was very different from my own voice. This is

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not like yourself talking to yourself. It doesn't even come

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through like your filter, Like this is something outside of

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you that somehow like penetrated.

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That barrier where you can hear it.

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And I heard something say if I wanted to unlive you,

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I could, And it was like pondering it, like if

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I wanted to rip you to shreds, I could, And

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then I kind of got this feeling of I'm not

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going to.

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But I could. It was almost like it was toying

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with me, Like it's almost as if it was a warning,

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but a threat, definitely a threat. And the thing about.

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Like mine speak slash telepathy, that I'm learning from watching

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like You and other hearing when you talk to guests

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and hearing other podcasts, is that it seems like when

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you hear that, you process it differently because you're experiencing

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it in your mind, so you're experiencing it, and so

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as soon as it just you react instantaneously to it,

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because you can't control when something's in your mind talking

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to you. You can if you hear someone say something

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to you, you can take it in through your filter

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and process it. But when you're in a moment of

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fear and you hear something infiltrate your brain and you

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hear you've never experiencing you've never experienced that before, which

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I never have. It's like everything is just firing off

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and I I just had this overwhelming.

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Feeling of get your dog, get out of here.

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And I'm like pulling on his leash and he's got

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that low growl going and he's just locked in and

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he won't move, and I am internally freaking out.

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And I just.

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I just picked him up. He was so heavy, and

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I still don't know how I did this. I don't

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know how because I'm five to one and I am

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not a huge person. And I picked my almost eighty

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pound dog up and ran as fast as I could

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down past the trail to our soccer field, and still

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like in the soccer field is like this big open area.

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There's a lake and there's a playground and stuff, and

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I thought I would feel safer once I got out there,

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and I was doing the whole like adrenaline rush, you know,

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looking over my shoulder, like terrified that something was behind me.

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So I get out to the soccer field and I thought, okay, well,

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all feel safe once I out to where there's like

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maybe a street light and there's a church light that

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shines through the woods right before you get to the

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soccer field.

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And I was like, well, maybe if I just get

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to that light, I'll feel better. But I didn't. I

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still felt very, very scared. It was almost as if

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like I knew.

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That whatever this was, well, I did know it could

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get me if I if it wanted to, and there

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was no stopping it. A lot of times, if like

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a human being is following you and you're somewhere where

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there's lights or there's people around or a big open area,

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you think like, well maybe i'll you know, you feel safer.

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It would feel safer at that point, but it did not.

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So I ran put my dog down because I couldn't

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carry him anymore, and ran off the trail and I

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got down to where the lake is, where the bottom

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of the lake is, and there were some teenagers that

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were fishing. And I must have look crazy running like

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I was full speed, like panting and just totally freaking out.

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And I got down there and I there was a

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bench and I just like collapsed on the bench with

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my dog and He's just like staring at me, and

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I was staring at him. And you know when you

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when you have a dog that like they're in your

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house with you, like you take care of them, like

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they're almost like your child, like you have a bond.

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That's how I am with Max, Like we have a

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little bond. And he was just looking at me, and

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I could just like I could just see it in him.

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Like what was that? Like he didn't know what it was.

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And yeah, my goodness, I cannot imagine going through what

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you went through. I have a question for you real quick.

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Is it possible to describe anything about what the voice

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sounded like that you heard in your head?

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So this is something that I've thought about. That's a

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really good question. This is something that I've thought about.

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If I had to put an age to it, Okay,

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so I think it was mail. If I had to

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put an age to it, I would say adult, but

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not middle aged.

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Behavior. Like just the feeling.

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In the tone.

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The tone was very knowing. That actually, I think put

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me off more.

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Because it was.

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I'm trying to describe this, I feel so crazy when

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I'm trying to describe this.

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I immediately got the feeling that whatever this was was

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smarter than me.

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I was nothing to it. It did not see me

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as equal. I was nothing to it. This is the

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feeling I got. Not there's no emotion involved in this either,

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Like from that voice. The feeling I got there was

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there was no humans have empathy like humans have emotions,

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Humans empathized with each other. This was cold and it

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was not evil. It wasn't evil. It was ominous, like

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feelingless that like like dominant.

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I could do this just letting you know.

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That's that's extremely interesting. The way that you're explaining the

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way that you heard the voice is kind of similar

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to the way that some witnesses describe it when they

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see it walk which kind of you know, in charge

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with purpose things like that. So I think that's that's

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extremely interesting. How long did you stay at that bench area?

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For maybe five minutes? And then I I.

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Kind of realized and I kind of had an adrenaline

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dump at that time, and just my body was depleted.

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I remember like.

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Drinking all the water in my water bottle and gave

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some to my dog. And I remember sitting there and

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going like, I have no energy, but I have to

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go home, so I've got to walk back, and I've

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got to take the main road because there was no

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way I was coming back near those woods. And I

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was even nervous, Jeremiah, I have to walk past a

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portion of the woods and where I smell that smell

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on the main road to get back to my house,

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and there's not really street lights there.

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And when I got to the trail opening, I was

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like shaking. I was so nervous. And then I.

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Saw my house and I kind of like, okay, like

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reality came back to me a little bit. So you know,

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I rushed through my door and my husband was sitting

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on the couch and he just looked at me and

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he was like, what is wrong with you?

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He couldn't. I didn't have to say anything, like he

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just knew. He was like, what is wrong with you?

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And I was like, something tried something. I think something

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wanted to attack me on the trail, and he was like,

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what do you mean. And that's whenever I had this

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whole like crisis of how do I explain this to

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another human being that it wasn't a massed criminal.

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That fits in the box of how we would explain that.

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Right, what I kind of knew it was was some

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kind of beast, which is what I think it is

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still with a supernatural twist. I I was like, something

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tried to attack me.

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And Max and it was really really dark, and it was.

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Something I've never experienced before, and I was like, I

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think it was I think it was that thing that

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that I've heard on the roof and that like put

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the dead animals on our back porch and maybe was

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making those crazy like growling and gurgling sounds, and some

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of those sounds I had heard on the camera sounded

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like a wild boar, you know. So I was just

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telling my husband. I was like, it couldn't be this,

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It couldn't be that. I was telling him, like process

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of elimination, like what it couldn't be.

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And he was like, well, that's really scary.

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His reaction was not like the protective male stance that

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he would have if he thought it was really He

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believed me right.

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Away, and.

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Yeah, his his reaction was not I'm going to go

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down to that trail and I'm gonna you know, No,

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that was not. He did say, do you want to

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call the police, And I remember just looking at him

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and saying, call the police on what? What am I

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going to call the police on? What human being can

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be ten to fifteen feet up in a tree and

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this thing sounded like it was four hundred pounds can

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jump down that stealthily.

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The way it landed, I already knew, even.

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If we don't put in the mind speak component here,

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I already knew that it was.

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Some It was a creature. It was not human.

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I did email my property manager about it, though, but

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I told her that I thought it was a person.

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Obviously.

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I didn't want to look crazy saying, hey, like, I

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think this creature jumped down from a tree and tried

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to and I heard it tell me stuff. No, I

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just said, I was followed on our trail the person

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was wearing all black. I think they had like a

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bad intention. You know, if we could just kind of

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alert other people in the community that there could be

475
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.759
danger on the on the trail at night, because I'm

476
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.920
not the only one that walks out there, and she

477
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.160
said she would have law enforcement look into it.

478
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.960
Yeah.

479
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:33.920
So man, that it's a that's an extremely traumatic experience

480
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.279
and you can definitely tell how it is still affecting

481
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.400
you to this day, which it would be affecting me

482
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:50.279
as well. Did did other things start happening after that

483
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.680
or was that kind of a one off experience a

484
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:54.640
few years ago.

485
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:07.400
No, there's been more since then, and unfortunately, uh so.

486
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:21.440
Okay, So in twenty twenty four, it was.

487
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:29.519
July, and I think I sent you some photos of

488
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:40.000
what could be something on my trampoline. I so, okay,

489
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.279
it was twenty twenty four in July. And what I

490
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.920
just to put you like where I was at the time.

491
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.559
I had I was spending a lot of time outdoors.

492
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.359
I had a really nice garden that I you know,

493
00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.480
was out there like every day.

494
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:00.720
I had my little.

495
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.119
One who would come out there and play in our

496
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.119
backyard with me and jump on the trampoline. And that

497
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.320
was like her favorite place. And she's also she's on

498
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:15.119
the autism spectrum, so like it definitely helps her and

499
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.719
it's like a sensory thing for her to jump on

500
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.800
the trampoline. So it was our every day just going

501
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.519
outside playing and me and my garden.

502
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:26.400
So that was like my everyday activities.

503
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.800
I also have a twelve year old son and he

504
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:41.960
would come out there with us sometimes. So I had

505
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.480
a friend over, one of my friends over that I've

506
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:51.079
known since high school. My husband was again on night shift.

507
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:56.960
It's interesting how things happen when he's not there, or

508
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:05.840
happen when he's not with me. So we're sitting on

509
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.920
the back floor, which it's a lovely night. I think

510
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.400
it was like the second of July, and it was

511
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.760
just really nice out and we're talking.

512
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:19.800
We're me and my son and my friend. We're all

513
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:21.679
talking and just having a good time.

514
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.559
And it's probably like around eight o'clock, nine o'clock, because

515
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.360
I think it was dark and it gets darker later

516
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:30.119
in the summertime.

517
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.440
So we're talking.

518
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.360
And my dog is out there with us, and we

519
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.719
hear something really large.

520
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.599
Jump. Now I have a six foot fence. Jump the fence.

521
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:58.360
Into my yard. We're talking loudly, we're hanging out.

522
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:00.519
It was so loud.

523
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:04.960
And what really did it for me where I knew

524
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:10.519
it was probably the same creature was when I heard

525
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.400
the like when it hit the ground and I heard

526
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:18.159
the two feet really heavy hit the dirt. And if

527
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.199
you know the sound I'm talking about, it's unmistakable. It's

528
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.480
like if you're standing on a hill and you're you know,

529
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.199
it's if you're standing on dirt and you're stomping your feet.

530
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.480
So the person that's near you can feel it.

531
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.280
We were on my porch and this is the bottom

532
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.480
of my yard, and we could feel it and we

533
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:37.079
could hear it.

534
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:49.519
So my dog starts going crazy and we could hear

535
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.840
it moving around and like shuffling.

536
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.000
But because my porch, because we had the lights on

537
00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:00.320
and it's dark in the yard, we could not see

538
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.280
what it was. We were kind of blinded by the light.

539
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.679
So my immediate reaction was, I don't want to know

540
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:14.679
what that is. I just want to get in the house. Uh,

541
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:16.920
my dog's going crazy. My dog ran down in the

542
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:23.519
yard after it. My frame was really curious. My dog

543
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.840
ran in the yard after it. But his reaction was

544
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.199
not like he was wagging his tail, but he was

545
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.760
also growling. I thought that was strange because he does

546
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:35.960
not do that.

547
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.639
That reaction was weird for him. And he's like barking

548
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.239
at it, you know, and he does. He's not gonna

549
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:48.199
he doesn't bark at everything. So whatever it was was

550
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.360
moving around in the yard, and.

551
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.239
I was just like kind of frantic because I'm like, uh,

552
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.639
my son ran in right away. I was frantic because

553
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.400
I was like, I've got to get my dog, Like,

554
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.679
I can't leave him out here, so I'm calling him.

555
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:06.440
I'm calling him, and finally.

556
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.480
You know, whatever this was, he didn't want to leave

557
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:07.800
it alone.

558
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.559
But if it was a critter, raccoon, possum, squirrel, if

559
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.719
it could have been any of those things, coyote, then

560
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:18.840
he would have attacked it.

561
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:21.079
He was really curious.

562
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.760
So he finally comes running back up and I run

563
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.719
inside with my dog.

564
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.039
My friend is like.

565
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.679
Mesmerized by whatever is going on, and she really wants

566
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.400
to know what it is.

567
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.800
And I was like, get in this house because it's.

568
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.800
Probably going to attack you if you don't whatever it is,

569
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.719
or I mean, if it's just an animal, that's fine,

570
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:49.360
but just get in the house, so you could still

571
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.159
hear it moving around. I mean it sounded like a

572
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:52.599
bear had jumped into my yard.

573
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.079
And was like it was weird.

574
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:02.079
So she comes inside and we slam the door, and huh.

575
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.199
I was just everything that happened on the trail that night.

576
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.960
I was like replaying it in my mind and I

577
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:10.119
was trying not to go there.

578
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:22.039
We heard a howl, so something started howling, but it

579
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:22.440
was like.

580
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.119
An ear piercing, the worst howl you could ever imagine.

581
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.239
I couldn't believe it was happening, and I was just

582
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.000
like not in my body. I did not want to

583
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.880
be there. I did not want to know what was happening.

584
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.920
I did not feel safe in my own house. My

585
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.320
dog was running back and forth, back and forth, totally

586
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.760
freaking out again not normal behavior for him, and I'm

587
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.760
trying not to hear this howl. I'm like, oh, it's

588
00:39:52.800 --> 00:40:00.239
a siren, it's a car, it's something, and she he's

589
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.519
just looking at me with wide eyes and my friend's like,

590
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.559
that's not a siren, that is not a car.

591
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:14.920
It is howling. So we're both like.

592
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:19.400
Filled with fear, and like I say, like we did

593
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:25.920
not feel safe. I also had the thought crossed my mind.

594
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.000
I don't have a camera at that points at my yard.

595
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.920
I have a camera on my porch that points at

596
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.239
my porch, does not get anything in my yard.

597
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:39.880
Now, that is another thing. I never tried to, like

598
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.199
catch anything like what this was.

599
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.159
I've never put cameras out like this is a creature,

600
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:47.599
this is a cryptid, I'm gonna catch it.

601
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:48.599
I've never done that.

602
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.800
Until this point in twenty twenty four, because even though

603
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.639
I thought there was something there, I didn't want to know.

604
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.199
I wanted to stay in my own little ignorant bliss

605
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.039
and just be fine.

606
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:05.880
And my life is very busy.

607
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:11.039
I did not want to interrupt my normal flow of

608
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.719
things for something that.

609
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:18.840
Is eitherworldly or whatever.

610
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:20.239
I just.

611
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.519
Sometimes it's better just to ignore things if you can't

612
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.000
make sense of them. But then it gets to a

613
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.880
point where you can't ignore it anymore and it's right

614
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.760
in front of your face. So in twenty twenty three,

615
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.239
that was the beginning of it where it really hit

616
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.599
home for me. In twenty twenty four, this experience, Okay,

617
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.559
so take you back to we heard the how we're

618
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:49.920
standing in my house. We started to hear something on

619
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:51.920
like my siding in my living room. It was like

620
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.599
it was like it knew where we were in my

621
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.760
house and something is brushing up against my siding.

622
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.440
You could hear it on the side of the house.

623
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:04.719
But whatever it was was in the backyard.

624
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.760
So I'm like, well, if it jumped a six foot fence,

625
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.159
it could just jump back over it.

626
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:09.440
I mean.

627
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.760
And my dog is freaking out, whining, crying, running from

628
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.280
the back door to the front door, just constantly. And

629
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.039
it dawns on me at this moment that my garage

630
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:28.440
door is open and my door to my garage.

631
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.840
Is open, and so I'm thinking, okay.

632
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:32.039
So.

633
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.719
If it knows where we are, what if it what if?

634
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:39.440
I mean what if?

635
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:44.519
Because if if it can mine speak telepathically to me,

636
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.039
can it read my mind that I'm thinking, Oh, I

637
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.400
don't know my door. I got to secure my I

638
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:55.400
don't know that my door's open. Couldn't know that it

639
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.079
my So my friends like, don't go out there, don't

640
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.199
go out there, and I say, no, I got to

641
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:05.000
I gotta go lock everything down because whatever this is

642
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:10.519
is not shy. So I ran out to my garage

643
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.199
and I locked the outside door, and just as I

644
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:18.119
was doing that, I could hear something, and the bushes

645
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:22.239
out there like right outside.

646
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.559
Run back in, lock the other door.

647
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:28.559
My dog is at my front door, absolutely freaking out.

648
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:30.920
I look at my ring.

649
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:38.280
Camera and standing there looking at my ring camera faces

650
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.400
like my garage where you could see like the bushes

651
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:48.599
and there is something with one really big eye and

652
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.719
you can kind of see that. I like squinting and

653
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:57.880
then opening back up, like crouched and hiding behind a

654
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:03.920
bush and a car drives by. You can see it illuminate,

655
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.920
and then it's you can't see what's behind the bush,

656
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.119
but you can see this big eyeshine and then it's gone.

657
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.679
This was right at the time that I was like

658
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.679
running out my door, running out of my house to

659
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.599
go to my into my garage and lock my garage door.

660
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:30.880
So none of this felt real, but it happened. And

661
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:32.760
that is like one thing that I have to keep saying,

662
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.280
like it doesn't feel real, it doesn't feel like my life.

663
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.800
I can't believe it when I even tell it. I'm like,

664
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:44.199
what are you talking about, Amy? But this actually happened. Okay,

665
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:52.880
So the next day was July third, and obviously I've

666
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.000
told my husband about this.

667
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:56.239
I was kind of.

668
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.360
Worried you wouldn't believe me, like, oh, maybe your friend's

669
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.320
just you know, hyping you up about this.

670
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:02.960
But he believed me.

671
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.559
And I think that's like always a fear that you have,

672
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.079
like will my husband or my wife believe me? I

673
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:19.239
hear that sometimes on podcasts that I, you know, have

674
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.400
listened to your channel a good bit, and I kind

675
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.440
of hear people say like, I didn't know if they

676
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:25.079
would believe me.

677
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.559
I had that fear. I didn't think he would, but

678
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:29.039
he did.

679
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:37.639
And he even suggested, like, why don't you try, Why

680
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:39.679
don't you buy another camera and point it at a

681
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.800
different spot in the yard. Still keep the one where

682
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.119
you have it now, but just point this one somewhere different.

683
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:48.119
So the next.

684
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:55.320
Day, my son was very my son was very on

685
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:57.880
edge about all this. And my son, he's on the

686
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:02.000
autism spectrum too. He's very, very empathic, he's very sensitive,

687
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:05.360
he's super brilliant.

688
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.760
And he uh, sorry, hold on, so you have two

689
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:10.840
autistic children?

690
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:11.519
Is that correct?

691
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:13.400
Yes?

692
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:14.719
I do, go ahead, thank you.

693
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:17.400
Yeah.

694
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.000
So one of his little hobbies that he likes to

695
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:29.360
do is airsoft and he had just gotten an airsoft gun.

696
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.559
So he and I didn't know this the next day

697
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:40.159
because he knew all this was happening. You know, I

698
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:44.280
try to, like, when you have kids, you want to

699
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.639
protect them from things.

700
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.079
That are scary.

701
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:53.480
But my son's had his own experiences that he has

702
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.960
come to me and talked to me about, which I'm

703
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.760
not I'm going to listen to him. I'm never gonna

704
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.480
tell my child like you didn't see that that's didn't happen,

705
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.599
because that's what my parents would do to me.

706
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.400
So I just listened to him.

707
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.679
The next day, he ran out with his airsoft gun

708
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.159
and I was like, where are you going, buddy, and

709
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:18.800
he's like, oh, I'm just going out in the yard,

710
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:23.679
and you know, it's okay. So he comes back in

711
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.039
and he was like, guess what I just did? And

712
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.519
I was like, what did you just do? And he

713
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.960
was like, well, I went down to the woods and

714
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:35.880
I told whatever's down there, don't ever come back in

715
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.519
my yard again, or you'll like fill my wrath or

716
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.239
something a very like a very like eleven twelve year

717
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:47.280
old boy thing to say, right like, hey, don't mess

718
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.199
with my mom, or you're gonna get this pellet gun

719
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.920
like it was. Anyways, I was like, okay.

720
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.639
Can you not threaten.

721
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:02.679
Whatever was like tear us last night, that would be great.

722
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.360
But anyways, so I don't know if that provoked it.

723
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.280
And also my son, he's a pretty tall kid. He's

724
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.480
a big kid, so he looks like he's like fourteen

725
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.119
or fifteen truly, So.

726
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.559
I was thinking, Okay, so if there's like.

727
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:32.159
This crazy cryptid creature whatever it is, beast thing that's

728
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.719
out there, you just went down there and effectively threatened it.

729
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:43.119
And you know, I was concerned about him. But anyways,

730
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.199
so I put up some cameras that face different directions

731
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:49.639
that day.

732
00:48:50.039 --> 00:49:02.719
And also also that day, my littleist was on the

733
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:04.880
trampoline and I was working in my garden.

734
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.239
She gets on the outside of the trampoline and I

735
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.440
don't know how she did this because I was right there.

736
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:11.159
I was watching her.

737
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:13.599
She gets on the outside of the trampoline and she

738
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:18.000
like walks around the outside of the trampoline and there's

739
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.960
a break in our fence that comes down about a foot.

740
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.480
So where that break in the.

741
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:29.400
Fences, my littlest who at this time was pretty nonverbal,

742
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.039
is like she has her hands outreached and she's like

743
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:41.239
telling something to pick her up, and as a mom,

744
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:46.360
every instinct in my body. I was like, I was

745
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:52.639
absolutely freaked out if there was any doubt in me

746
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.199
that still at that point that this was happening.

747
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.800
And also the guilt.

748
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.519
Because I'm like, okay, so this is not just me

749
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.159
experience seeing this. Now this is my children, and now

750
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:06.320
this thing is messing with my children, and now we

751
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.320
have a problem.

752
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:07.920
You know.

753
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:15.199
So I got her, you know, she's fine everything, Like,

754
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.400
I got her write down and told her, you know,

755
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.320
you cannot walk on the outside of the trampoline, like

756
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:20.840
it's not safe, all that good stuff.

757
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.840
So anyways, that's one thing that happened. I have to mention.

758
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:31.920
And if you're a mom or dad and you're like

759
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:35.760
you're having experiences, I really have to say this, it's

760
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:41.199
not just a cute to like you. Like, I listened

761
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.519
to a guy the other day who told such an

762
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.559
amazing story and it was really scary, and he mentioned

763
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:49.559
his kids a few times, and I was just thinking,

764
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.519
I want to hear from the kid's perspective. And I know,

765
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.159
I know, in like the podcast community, like that's not

766
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.480
a safe thing to do. No one does that, and

767
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.960
I agree it shouldn't be done. You know, kids are miners.

768
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.119
They need to be protected. But I was just thinking

769
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:10.119
because if any parent is experiencing this, like you and

770
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:11.960
your kids live with you in your house where you're

771
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.159
having these creatures, and then there's like the sense of

772
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:17.800
being a mama bear or Papa bear, like you have

773
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.360
to protect your family, But how do you protect your

774
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.719
family from something that you don't know what it is.

775
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:30.039
It's not like a classified animal, it's.

776
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:35.159
Not you know, it's probably supernatural. Anyways, So I put

777
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:43.320
those cameras up and it was the morning of fourth

778
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:48.719
of July. I could not sleep that night. I was

779
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:54.480
just laying in bed. It was almost like I just

780
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.880
felt like something was going to happen and I was

781
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:03.280
just waiting for it. Maybe that's in tuition. So I'm

782
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.199
laying there and it's like three in the morning, four

783
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:13.960
in the morning, and I see my neighbor. I'm like

784
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:18.199
watching these cameras, and I see my neighbor next door

785
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.840
to me, who's in his seventies. Don't know why he

786
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:32.039
was up, old military guy turn on his big light

787
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:36.280
on the back of his house, like his spotlight, which

788
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:40.480
I thought was strange because they never do that, and

789
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:46.519
then he turned it off. So after that happened. I'm like, okay,

790
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.039
well did he see something? So I'm watching the camera,

791
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.519
I'm really tired, and I see this little box pop

792
00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:01.360
up around something. So that screenshot that I sent, sorry,

793
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.800
that screenshot that I sent you, I can't remember exactly,

794
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.480
but I'm pretty sure that that was actual, Like I

795
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.400
screenshoted that live because when I go back and I

796
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.760
look at there's one picture I know I screenshoted live

797
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.320
because the background is different.

798
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:18.760
Than the other ones.

799
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.039
And I remember doing that because I almost couldn't believe

800
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.559
what I was seeing, but I was like ready, I

801
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.880
knew that something was probably gonna happen.

802
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:33.719
I could just feel it.

803
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:39.719
And it was a creature that was crouched down, almost

804
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.679
like like a human would be, but like a like

805
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.639
in a just crouched in like a frog position, like.

806
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:58.280
Indian style, but on its toes, kind of on my trampoline.

807
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:02.000
And I, I mean, I saw it like I saw

808
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:09.239
it pop up, and I knew exactly that that was it,

809
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:16.000
but I didn't expect it to look like that, and

810
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.519
I didn't believe it. I still don't believe it. And

811
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.239
I have talked about this with people. I mean, i've

812
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:34.480
talked about this with my family, my clients, and every

813
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.800
time I talk about it, I still can't believe it.

814
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:49.880
So yeah, I think I caught it or something on

815
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.320
pictures on video.

816
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.679
And the weird thing is is that it like disintegrates.

817
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.400
But also these are not like great cameras. These were

818
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:06.760
like just your run of the mill, like ring cameras,

819
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.000
wise cameras that you buy at like home depot, like

820
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.480
I was. I surely did not really think I was

821
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.679
gonna catch anything. I kind of, you know, I I.

822
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.360
Didn't believe it that I did. And the size of

823
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:21.880
it on the trampoline.

824
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.880
I had my husband, he's sixty three and like two

825
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.840
hundred something pounds. The next day I had him like,

826
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:29.960
I was like, can you get on there and see

827
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.400
if you can like crouch in the position this thing was,

828
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.280
and we can see kind of like size comparison.

829
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:36.079
This was bigger than him.

830
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:42.800
If he's six three and like two hundred and twenty

831
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:52.039
thirty pounds, this thing was bigger than him. In the video,

832
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.119
it's like there for a split second and then it

833
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.719
like cloaks or like disintegrades or like vanishes or something.

834
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.800
And that's crazy to think about that's crazy to say,

835
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.280
but I don't know how this like.

836
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.679
And I played with the photo. I've like taken the

837
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:15.480
brightness down.

838
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:18.920
I've like, you know, not the ones I sent you,

839
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.440
but I've messed with it myself. And like the thing

840
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:24.000
that I can't get out of my mind because I

841
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:25.719
keep trying to talk myself out of it and like, oh,

842
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:26.320
it's not real.

843
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:28.440
The thing I can't get out of my mind is

844
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:31.559
that if you.

845
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.719
Make it really dark, you can actually see where the

846
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:44.119
shoulders and the knees.

847
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:44.880
Or the legs.

848
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.719
Block out the light, where the poles are on my trampoline.

849
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:57.519
So there is something there. I'm not saying what it is.

850
00:57:57.960 --> 00:57:58.880
I don't know what it is.

851
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:03.920
That's kind of my way.

852
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.360
That I've proved it to myself, Like, yeah, you're not

853
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:07.159
losing your mind.

854
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:22.440
So yeah, is it okay to if we share the

855
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.559
videos and the photos that you sent me in this interview?

856
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:26.880
All right? Cool?

857
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:27.480
I'm going to try.

858
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:28.480
Yeah absolutely?

859
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:31.039
Yeah? Uh is there?

860
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:36.800
They are really really interesting? Remember you sending those to me?

861
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:42.079
So that was July fourth of was it twenty four

862
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:42.880
or twenty five?

863
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:52.719
Twenty four? Wow? Is anything happening with your neighbors at

864
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:53.079
this time.

865
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:07.480
Okay, So my neighbor, Yeah, my neighbor. Okay. I have

866
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.760
two elderly neighbors that live on either side of me.

867
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:17.320
Wonderful people. I know them, they know my kids.

868
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.119
One of my neighbors actually just moved away, and she

869
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.639
had built that house and lived in that house for

870
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:26.599
thirty years and.

871
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:38.000
I I'm not sure why she moved, Jeremiah, but so

872
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:45.559
I had I had something happen. This was in August.

873
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.519
On my back porch, there is in the summertime, there's

874
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:57.440
a ton of orb weave or orb weaver spiders, and

875
00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:58.679
I'm kind of obsessed with them.

876
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.519
I think they're really pretty.

877
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.880
And there's this invasive spider called a duro spider and

878
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.480
they kind of like pop up and they actually the

879
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.159
females are really aggressive and they'll kill the orb weavers.

880
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:14.800
So one night I had like, I had a couple

881
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:16.360
of gurrows on my back porch and then I had

882
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:21.079
like a couple orb weavers, and I was just checking

883
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.800
to see if like the duros weren't because you will

884
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:26.039
find like dead spiders in their web like they are

885
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:27.760
it's creepy.

886
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.119
So I was shining a flashlight.

887
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:37.239
And the only way you can really see the webs

888
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:38.719
and like where they are and not walk into them.

889
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:39.719
Is to shina flashlight.

890
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:46.000
So I live like on a hill and it overlooks

891
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:56.599
my neighbor's yard. I was shining my flashlight and there's

892
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.920
a big cedar tree, really big cedar tree, right next

893
01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:06.440
to my fence in her yard. There was a web

894
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:08.920
that I was looking at on my porch. Here's a

895
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:17.400
big cedar tree. Here's her house. I turned my flashlight off,

896
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:21.320
and I don't know why I did that, but I

897
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:26.880
turned my flashlight off for a second, and there was

898
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.400
I can't remember if I saw it and turned my

899
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:31.280
flashlight off.

900
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:34.800
I don't know why. That's the first instinct.

901
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.559
It's like, obviously, if you're trying a flashlight around, the

902
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.119
thing already saw you, so gave away that you're there.

903
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:42.360
Okay.

904
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:47.719
There was a very large black mask with red eyes

905
01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:53.039
next to the cedar tree. That was I mean it

906
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.960
was like ten plus feet tall. I mean it was

907
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.119
like thirteen feet tall. It was very tall because my

908
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.519
my fence is like six feet It way over the fence.

909
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:14.119
Black mass. It had these red eyes, and.

910
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:19.880
It was right in her yard. I mean, here's the creek.

911
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:28.199
There's a creek behind my fence. At the same time

912
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.199
that I saw this big black mass with red eyes

913
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:39.760
neon red eyes, mind you, like almond shape. In the

914
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:50.239
creek behind my house, there was two rock clacks that happened, loud,

915
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:58.639
rock clacks. Very it was something a human would do,

916
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:07.559
very human, not a raccoon. There's beavers back there sometimes,

917
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.840
not a beaver. I don't think that they'll slap their

918
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.559
tail at you, for sure, but they're not going to

919
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:18.320
take like two rocks and go.

920
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:23.760
Clack clack, clack clack. That's what it did. Something in

921
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:24.599
the creek bottom.

922
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.400
When I saw this, and when the clacks happened, the

923
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:39.920
thing disappeared. It vanished, And then a couple of weeks

924
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.280
later she puts her house that she's lived in for

925
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:47.559
thirty years on the market and moved out, and now

926
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:48.440
I have new neighbors.

927
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:48.960
Yeah.

928
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:56.280
Wow, that kind of thing really makes you wonder what

929
01:03:56.360 --> 01:04:00.440
else was going on over there, especially like why would

930
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.119
you put up your house of thirty years that you

931
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:05.639
built yourself like that.

932
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:08.920
That's Have you.

933
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:14.199
Experienced telepathy any other time beside the time that you've

934
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:14.920
shared so far?

935
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.719
Okay, So I was just talking with my sister last

936
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:22.360
night about this.

937
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:38.800
When you have a child who is nonverbal and you

938
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.079
are their caretaker, you build a bond with them that

939
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:43.159
no one else has.

940
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:50.000
You can almost pick up on their needs.

941
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:53.880
I mean sometimes I'll be at work and I'll have

942
01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:57.400
a twelve hour day and my husband's at home with

943
01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:05.239
our daughter, and I just know that, like, okay, she's hungry.

944
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:08.920
I know, okay, she wants to go outside. There's been

945
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:18.800
times where I've I've texted him and like there was

946
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:24.079
one time that she she can't elope, So like our

947
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.519
front door is like Fort Knox because she can't elope.

948
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:29.559
She's just in that stage. Sometimes they do it forever,

949
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:36.519
sometimes they don't, but she can. And she ran out

950
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:38.480
in the backyard one time when I was at work

951
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.760
and my husband he was doing he was like doing

952
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.119
dishes or washing his hands or something. And I texted

953
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.880
him three minutes before it happened because I caught it

954
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.280
on my camera that she ran out on the back porch.

955
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:53.519
I caught it three minutes before it happened, and I

956
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.039
texted him and I said, is she okay?

957
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.880
Like I knew that it was something could happen.

958
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.599
So I don't know, when you have kids that rely

959
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:07.119
on you. I feel like you can build that relationship unknowingly.

960
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:11.199
I don't know, especially if they are nonverbal. My son

961
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.719
is very verbal, my daughter is getting more verbal as

962
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:20.760
time progresses. But you can build that that bond with them.

963
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:30.159
And I've wondered if it could be a component, Like

964
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:37.239
maybe because of my children and my bond with them,

965
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:44.519
I've unknowingly like become more empathic in general. And I

966
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:49.320
also work with people all the time in my industry,

967
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.199
I work with people, so I kind of feel like

968
01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:54.920
a therapist, even though I am not a therapist, but

969
01:06:55.039 --> 01:07:00.199
I feel like one. So maybe I have those skills

970
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.440
in some facet And I don't know, but like to

971
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:08.360
like mind speaker to lepathy, like on the trail that night. Never,

972
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.440
I've never like heard this voice come over me and

973
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:13.559
tell me something like that.

974
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:13.960
Never.

975
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:20.679
Yeah, that's extremely interesting because another pattern that you will,

976
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:24.480
you know, see, if you talk to enough people, is

977
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:31.039
there's definitely a connection between I guess not just autistic children,

978
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:35.920
but autistic individuals and Bigfoot in a way. There seems

979
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.039
to be sometimes more activity when they are are present.

980
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:46.239
I've had more than a few interviews where that comes up.

981
01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:50.960
Don't feel like you need to answer this. It can

982
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.320
be cut out. But do you know if you are

983
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:55.639
autistic or on the spectrum yourself?

984
01:07:58.199 --> 01:07:58.719
I don't know.

985
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:08.559
Yeah, I am very neurodiversent. I have ADHD and actually

986
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:14.079
all my siblings have ADHD too. My mom has ADHD

987
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:17.720
or add I think she said add.

988
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:23.479
But our children in my family on my side have

989
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:30.279
ADHD or autism or both. So could I be autistic?

990
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:32.239
I could be. I don't know.

991
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:39.079
You know, like millennials, like my generation, especially like elder millennials,

992
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:42.479
we didn't really get we didn't get tested.

993
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:45.359
Or diagnosed them right there with the older millennials. So

994
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.640
just the fact that I said another pattern is probably

995
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:54.479
is a big indicator for some people. But yeah, no,

996
01:08:55.119 --> 01:09:00.359
the elder millennial, it really did not get diagnosed at all.

997
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:04.800
So my husband has told me that he thinks that

998
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.600
he has autism, gotcha, gotcha?

999
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:11.079
Which that might line up, but I don't know. I'm

1000
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:12.760
not going to tell him what I'm thinking of.

1001
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:19.359
Yeah, absolutely, So that was we were talking about August

1002
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:20.640
of twenty four, Was that right?

1003
01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:22.640
Okay?

1004
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:27.479
Yes, has this been occurring in the last year as well, or.

1005
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:37.479
With the creature that the large black mass with red

1006
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:43.800
eyes that was in August of this of twenty twenty five. Gotcha,

1007
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.239
but it was in the summertime. I think that they

1008
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:50.199
might like to be out more in the summertime.

1009
01:09:52.479 --> 01:10:02.079
And I think that to me, the black Mass did

1010
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:02.920
look ape like.

1011
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:12.319
Why these things would be hanging out in a creek

1012
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.039
behind a subdivision.

1013
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:19.000
I have no idea why there is an old abandoned

1014
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:20.840
farm behind my neighborhood.

1015
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:24.680
It's just dilapidated, and I mean there's woods, you know

1016
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:25.840
they could conceal.

1017
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.359
I don't know why. I mean, I thought maybe food,

1018
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:32.680
people watching.

1019
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.880
But the one with red eyes, that was a different experience.

1020
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:47.439
Anytime I've had these experiences, I've been really scared when

1021
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:52.479
I saw him, and I'm saying him, I don't know

1022
01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:55.520
that it was a him. It When I saw it,

1023
01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:01.039
I wasn't afraid of it, and and it kind of

1024
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:02.920
felt like it was trying to scare me.

1025
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:04.760
But I just.

1026
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:07.159
Felt nothing, and I thought that was very weird. I

1027
01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:15.560
felt nothing, and uh, it squinted at me and then

1028
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.119
disappeared when the rock clacks happened, But it squinted at

1029
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:23.119
me like it was checking me out. I got the

1030
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.520
vibe it was checking me out, like who are you?

1031
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:28.479
But it like knew me. I don't know, this is weird.

1032
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:35.079
I got the feeling that it knew me and for

1033
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:39.520
some reason, it was showing itself to me. I feel

1034
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:43.680
like these things have to be able to cloak, because

1035
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.079
I just don't know how it can disappear like that.

1036
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:54.960
And you would think that this would happen in an

1037
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.279
area where there's like acres and acres of woods around.

1038
01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:01.079
It's really remote, it's very out in the middle of nowhere.

1039
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:07.920
But this has changed my mindset on that because where

1040
01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:11.479
I'm from is like acres of land in the middle

1041
01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:17.000
of nowhere, and I've had more experiences here where there

1042
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:23.720
is high density living in population than I have had

1043
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:25.840
somewhere like that.

1044
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:41.680
Man, it's an incredible story, and it feels like there

1045
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:47.920
almost should be some thing in the past that kick

1046
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:54.199
things off and that got everything connected. But I'm not

1047
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:58.840
sure if I have it yet. And that's okay, but

1048
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:07.439
you know what I mean. They definitely know you're there,

1049
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.159
and you guys are just like a lighthouse beacon bringing

1050
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:15.960
them in and it's yeah. I mean, it's one of

1051
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:19.239
those things where you have some sort of experience and

1052
01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:21.880
then it just opens you up to all this other stuff,

1053
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:26.000
and you just really start experiencing stuff out of nowhere.

1054
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:30.680
When you are doing your.

1055
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:34.520
Place of work and you're able to talk to people

1056
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.439
and hear their story and you're telling yours. It sounds

1057
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:42.159
like you tell it quite a bit. Has anyone else

1058
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.600
been like, oh, yeah, totally, that area is super weird

1059
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:49.640
or I've had other things happen in that area. Anyone

1060
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:50.960
brought up stuff like that.

1061
01:13:53.239 --> 01:14:03.399
Well, my clients will share, you know. So when you're

1062
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:08.840
in the beauty industry, you have like a couple hours

1063
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.279
with people sometimes and usually you get to know people

1064
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:19.520
really well, their families, et cetera. And we I've swapped

1065
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:23.760
stories with some people about the area. The upstate is

1066
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:29.199
very old. Well, South Carolina is very old. But like

1067
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:31.159
when I was when I was little, like if I

1068
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:33.079
would go play in the woods, like my dad, you know,

1069
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:35.800
if he was with me, we would collect arrowheads.

1070
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:40.079
I mean stuff like that. So it's not abnormal, like people.

1071
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:45.239
Know this area is old, but it's I've had people

1072
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:51.159
explain to me that they've had paranormal experiences, haunted houses,

1073
01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:54.279
you know, seeing ghosts, things like that. Some clients that

1074
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:59.640
I have, Yeah, I had a lady in my neighborhood

1075
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:03.960
who is a lovely sweet person, tell me that something

1076
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:06.560
she would put out her in this and you know,

1077
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:08.479
I guess the spring is when they're out. She would

1078
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:15.279
put out humming bird like fell her hummingbird feeders, and

1079
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.439
something would come and take apart the hummingbird feeders and

1080
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:24.319
suck all of the juice out. And she said it

1081
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:30.119
would It was happening like every night, and she thought

1082
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:34.279
that that was weird. And she lives on the other

1083
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:39.239
side of my subdivision and behind her is the old

1084
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:42.960
dilapidated farm.

1085
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:47.760
So wow, okay, so a lot going on for sure.

1086
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:50.159
I guess you know, when I think of South Carolina,

1087
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:56.920
I'm thinking of old, old, even a lot of Civil

1088
01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:04.479
War type related paranoid revolutionary Yep, yeah, sure, definitely. Would

1089
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:12.399
you say the August event was the last big event

1090
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:17.239
that happened on your property, then we're at about well,

1091
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:19.239
February twenty twenty six, Now.

1092
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:25.000
There was something.

1093
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:28.039
I mean, things kind of happen, Okay, things kind of

1094
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:28.960
happen all the time.

1095
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.640
But I don't like to be that person that's like,

1096
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:34.960
oh this happened, then this happened, you know what I mean.

1097
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:40.600
I'm not looking for it, and there's stuff with animals,

1098
01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:43.560
like you know, one night there was like a hawk

1099
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:44.920
back here killing something.

1100
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:49.800
It was like screaming. We know what it was, but

1101
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:54.000
you know you can tell. Okay, So.

1102
01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.680
And this this one actually happened with my husband, so

1103
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:07.199
now he knows. I took Max out one night. Sometimes

1104
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.039
if I don't go out, it's a fenced in yard.

1105
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:10.880
But sometimes if I don't go out with Max at night,

1106
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:12.079
he gets into trouble.

1107
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.760
He likes to attack possums and it's just nasty.

1108
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.800
So I took him out with a flashlight and we

1109
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.079
were walking around the yard and I just kept hearing

1110
01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:25.840
something like jumping from tree to tree to tree, but

1111
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:28.800
it was really big. It was knocking branches down. I'm like, okay,

1112
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:32.359
well where have I heard that before? You know, it

1113
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.279
was knocking branches, big branches down. I could like see

1114
01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:38.920
the branches falling. But when I shine my flashlight up

1115
01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:40.720
in the tree, I couldn't see what it was like.

1116
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:42.439
There was nothing there, but I could see like the

1117
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:48.600
trees moving, branches falling. It's the same time across the

1118
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:50.840
woods from us, like back in the woods up on

1119
01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.239
another hill, there's a retention pond. It behind that there

1120
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:57.760
is an apartment complex. In the winter time, you can.

1121
01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:59.000
Hear them very well.

1122
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.600
You can see the apartments way back there, but you

1123
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:05.000
can hear them, and it's very usually very quiet, but

1124
01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:08.000
on this particular night, there was like a guy walking.

1125
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:09.000
Around the retention pond.

1126
01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:12.600
It's all gated off, like they you can't get from

1127
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:15.479
over there to where I am. But there was a

1128
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.359
guy walking around the retention pond screaming really loudly on

1129
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:22.399
his phone. At the same time, this thing is jumping

1130
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:26.760
from tree to tree to tree, knocking stuff down very loudly,

1131
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:33.520
and I surmised that he was watching this guy. The

1132
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:38.079
guy was obviously very distracted, so I I went inside.

1133
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:40.039
I was like, you know, I told my husband, I

1134
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.000
was like, can you come out here? Can you just

1135
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:45.359
like walk around the edge of the fence back there,

1136
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.600
just I feel like I.

1137
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:50.000
Just want to see if you can like see what

1138
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:55.399
this is, you know.

1139
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:59.560
He being that he is kind of skeptical, he was like, yeah, okay,

1140
01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:03.720
sure's fine. So he got his flashlight and he like

1141
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:05.439
walks around the outside of the fence.

1142
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:10.159
There's the creek and the woods.

1143
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.199
And whatever it was that was jumping around as soon

1144
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:16.439
as my husband got back.

1145
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:19.680
There, it got really quiet.

1146
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:21.920
So I'm standing on the other side of the fence

1147
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:24.920
with my dog. My dog is just silent through all

1148
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:28.399
of this. My husband's over on the other side and

1149
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:32.359
he's like, Amy, it looks like something has been betting

1150
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:33.279
down back here.

1151
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:34.560
And he does.

1152
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:37.479
Yardwork and he throws stuff back there all the time.

1153
01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:39.920
He's very familiar with it. And I was like, what

1154
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:41.920
do you mean, And he was like, it looks like

1155
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.039
something has made like a little nest or something back here.

1156
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:50.920
And if that was not off putting, I was.

1157
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:51.279
Like, okay.

1158
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:53.960
And if my husband says it, he is a skeptic.

1159
01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:56.439
He is, and he's also an atheist, so like I'm

1160
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:59.560
the spiritual one that like can't stop talking. He's the

1161
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:02.359
one that it's like he has to see it to

1162
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.399
believe it. That's just how he is.

1163
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:07.359
So when he said that, alarm bells went off, because

1164
01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:10.840
I know how he is. Then whatever was.

1165
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.720
Up in the trees jumping around and being very loud

1166
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:19.800
and messy jumps down. So my husband's behind our fence,

1167
01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:23.560
here's the creek, and then there's woods in those woods.

1168
01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:27.079
Whatever it was jumped down and I heard it hit

1169
01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:34.640
the ground, and I was like, whatever that was has

1170
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.039
now jumped down, and he heard it too, and I

1171
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:38.760
could tell he was getting freaked out because he was

1172
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:39.439
like quiet.

1173
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.000
I was like, it's jumped down and I just heard

1174
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:43.159
it land on the other side of the.

1175
01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:48.520
Creek, so it's back there with you. So now he's

1176
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:51.760
got to walk by the creek and come back around

1177
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:55.199
the fence. So he's got to effectively walk by whatever

1178
01:20:55.319 --> 01:21:02.359
has just landed on this hill across the creek, and

1179
01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:07.800
he just immediately like booked it back across there as

1180
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:10.079
fast as you can for it being like I mean,

1181
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:12.359
it's thick brushed even in the winter, it's thick, Like

1182
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:13.680
no one is back there.

1183
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:19.479
There's briers, and it's messy and it's gross. So he

1184
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:20.840
didn't see anything.

1185
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:26.279
But but something was definitely back there. Yeah, oh yeah,

1186
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:30.920
Oh my goodness, Amy, you have really it's not just you,

1187
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.159
as your whole family has really an incredible story.

1188
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:38.760
I know it was hard to share it. I could.

1189
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.199
I could tell you were right back there in it,

1190
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:44.560
and I just want to say thank you for sharing

1191
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:49.479
what you guys have been through so far. And I

1192
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:54.159
hope that this helps some listeners that are maybe going

1193
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:58.319
through some things like this in their own lives and

1194
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:05.319
that it's okay to talk about things like this. But Amy,

1195
01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:09.880
thank you so much for coming on. Please keep us

1196
01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:14.520
in the loop. If you do continue to experience things

1197
01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.159
like this around your property, I would love to hear

1198
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:18.920
about it. But thank you again.

1199
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.520
Yeah, thank you so much. Seremiah, thanks for having me on.

1200
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:26.640
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1201
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:29.920
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

1202
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:32.800
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1203
01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:37.359
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1204
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.960
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1205
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:45.960
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

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01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.640
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

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even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

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be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

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probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

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heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

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you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

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more about looking for bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

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check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

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documentary series searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

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not only go to the festival, but you can also

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sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

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outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

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to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

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up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

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for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

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Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

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It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

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To get a ticket, head on a or just Sasquatch

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Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code b

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sp like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a

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two day pass for the price of a one day pass.

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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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that you guys can can get a little help with

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the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

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01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:32.920
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

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talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

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many people last year and the year before. It is

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an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it.

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And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

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I want to say something directly to a very specific

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01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:52.800
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

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01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:55.800
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

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01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:59.039
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

1239
01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:02.520
forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

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01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:06.119
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

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01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:09.319
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

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01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:12.880
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

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01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:15.960
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

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01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:19.600
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

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01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.760
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1246
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.600
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

1247
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:30.319
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1248
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:33.960
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1249
01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:37.520
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1250
01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:41.279
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1251
01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.560
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1252
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:47.039
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1253
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:51.640
shadows CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance and you've seen

1254
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:55.399
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

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01:25:56.439 --> 01:26:01.279
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

1256
01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:04.520
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

1257
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:08.800
what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

1258
01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:14.720
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

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01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:17.279
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

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01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:20.560
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

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01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:23.119
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1262
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:26.079
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

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01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:29.319
tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:46.960
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1270
01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:49.960
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01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:53.000
has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

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01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:56.199
from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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gotten a chain, and yet check out our membership community

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a place to connect with other people that are into

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01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:19.079
the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again

1280
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.800
for following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time,

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01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:24.640
Keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

1282
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:26.880
asking what else might be out there? And see you

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in the woods.