Feb. 16, 2026

We Were Attacked on the Lake: A Daylight Bigfoot Encounter in Michigan

We Were Attacked on the Lake: A Daylight Bigfoot Encounter in Michigan
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Season 1

In this episode, we explore the extraordinary experiences of Rob from Michigan, known to many as Bigfoot Michigan Rob. Rob shares a detailed firsthand account of a daylight encounter that took place on the waters near Cadillac, Michigan, deep within the Manistee National Forest. What began as a quiet outing quickly unfolded into a series of unsettling events involving unexplained activity from the shoreline and a powerful presence emerging from the forest itself.


As Rob recounts the encounter, he reflects on the physical sensations, emotional weight, and lasting impact it had on his life. The conversation expands beyond a single event, touching on the broader pattern of sightings, sounds, and reports connected to the region, including stories shared with him by other witnesses across Michigan. Rob also discusses how this experience reshaped his path and led him to create a platform for others who have lived through similar moments.


Join us as we navigate Rob’s compelling account, the mysterious history of Michigan’s forests, and the profound effects these encounters leave behind for those who experience them.

Resources: 

https://www.youtube.com/c/BigfootMichiganRob
BMR's books:
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Rob-Karnafel/author/B0CFBCSR48
Contact Rob here: beyondbmr@gmail.com

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all I Bigfa Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Bigfoot Michigan Rob today as

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we were just talking off air. It's an interview that

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probably should have happened a few years ago. Both of

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us are so busy and we had just crazy stuff

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going on. But I'm glad to have you on the

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show right now.

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Rob.

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How are you doing, sir?

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I'm doing pretty good. I'm trying to stay warm, you know.

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As we said backstage, plumbing boom went out unexpected Bill,

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and I must tell you I sold my snowblower five

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years ago because believe it or not where I live

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in Michigan. I'm in the southeastern part of Michigan. In

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the last five years here am I we haven't even

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had white Christmases. It snows maybe five inches in the

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last five years. And so I said, you know, I'm

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gonna sell sell my snowblower. This year is the year

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where I regredit it, because now I'm breaking my back

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every third day, it seems, because we got snow all

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over the place.

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Oh my goodness. Yeah, Iowa was very fortunate. We were

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just like right above that line kind of and the

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rest of the US just got demolished. But yeah, yeah,

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this year, Iowa kind of squeaked by. But listeners, you

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might also know Rob from his YouTube channel if you

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just search for Bigfoot Michigan Rob. He's got all sorts

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of great, great shows out there. And then of course

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he's got a great book series, which is Bigfoot Michigan.

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Rob presents True Cryptids, True Cryptis Encounters Book one and two,

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and I've been I'm reading through the first one right now.

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It's a great read. There's a great collection of not

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just Bigfoot stuff, but I mean, you got dog man stuff,

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you got stuff from Michigan. You got stuff from Oregon.

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It's from all over the place. It's a great reason.

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Thank you so much for that. Yeah, it took a

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while to compulate. It was I started my channel and yeah, it's.

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Yeah. I started getting these emails and I started calling

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these people and interviewing them. Some have been on my show,

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but most had not. So I said, you know, what

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am I to do with all these stories? Sure, I

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put a lot of them on YouTube, and I'm like,

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I think I'm going to put it into a book,

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you know. So I contacted the folks to make sure

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it was cool, this, that and the other, and yeah,

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and it's kind of I'm pretty happy with it because

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you know, I know we're going to get into it

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a little bit later. And the only reason I did

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that is because people that have these experiences, no matter what,

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you know, they don't want to come forward and like me,

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which you'll find out a little bit later, I was

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lost and alone, ridicule judge and I'm like, I felt, yeah,

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you know, I didn't like that feeling. And a lot

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of people want things to share in anonymity, right, but

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they it's like therapy. It was for me when I

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first came forward and said, this is what happened to me,

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and I said, you know, I don't want other people

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to feel that way. So I have a safe place

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to come to, whether it's on the channel or in

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the book or whatever. So that's kind of my way

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of giving back to I never had the opportunity because

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something was taken from me. Is you'll find out throughout

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today's show. The only reason I started doing my channel

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was because you give an opportunity for individuals to get

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it off their chess, to feel that they weren't alone.

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In fact, on the back of the back cover of

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my books and an introduction, there's a snippet in there

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that says, this is for those that no longer have

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to walk alone, and you don't have to feel judge

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because so many people out there, no matter how the

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encounter plays out, whether it's believable not believable, it's something

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that happened to them, and we did not walk in

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their shoes. So that was my giving back to what

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I never had, So that always stuck with me. My

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channel is more about helping. Sure, it's entertaining and I

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love doing it, but there's a purpose, in a mission

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behind it, and that's to let people know that you're

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not alone.

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I love that that is is very very cool, and

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it's it's very close to what I've laid out for

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my channel. The difference, I believe is you're not So

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would you say I'm curious about this because I'm more

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one hundred percent focused on bigfoot and I get like

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just bigfoot stuff. But you're getting more than just bigfoot

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stuff in your emails.

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I will tell you this. I am. And here's the

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thing about this, and even guests on the shows. It's

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like when I first started. Okay, it's Bigfoot Mission. Rob

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is the name of the channel because when I first

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decided to make a YouTube, not even a channel. I

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told my story many years ago in twenty eighteen on YouTube.

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It was suggested to me there's good therapy. So Rob,

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you don't have a channel, but he set up a

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YouTube and has put it out there, and so I

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had no idea what I was doing. I did not

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even know, Jeremiah that YouTube had shows, chat rooms. I

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used YouTube man to watch music, That's all I did.

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I didn't go on YouTube how to bake a cake,

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how to fix a flat. I had no idea that

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there was shows and in these downloads and documentations, right,

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and so okay, my very first video I did, I

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had no clue what I was doing. I mean it

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was very grainy and very uh. I did that and

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in three days, man, I had thirty five hundred views

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and I got a lot of positive feedback, and I said, Wow,

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this is something else. So I said, maybe I can

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turn this into something right, because people just reached out,

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and a lot of people that lived in Cadillac, Michigan,

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which is where my encounter took place at. Rob, Yes,

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I believe you because we've heard similar things. So go

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back to your original question, Bigfoot Michigan. Rob evolved because well,

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I'm my name is Rob. I live in Michigan. I

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saw Bigfoot, Bigfoot mission of Rob evolved, but unknowingly to me,

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it went down a whole different rabbit hole. The dog man,

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the paranormal, the alien, the UFO, and I started getting

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flooded with all sorts of phenomenon which blew my mind.

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I'm like, I know nothing about uithology, you know, I

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know nothing about this, that and the other, the paranormal,

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and so it kind of evolved and then I said, man,

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I got to change my channel name because now I

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just don't do bigfoot anymore. I do everything and then

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all my audience. So I put out a poll, should

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I change my channel name? No, Rob, keep it at that.

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And then after a while it was like, I'm not

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going to bother is. Most people know now that it's

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just not bigfoot and eccentric because to me, I don't

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know what your thought is all this phenomenon, all of

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it cryptis and otherwise to me it's related. There's a

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commonality between all of this stuff.

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One hundred percent. I agree with you one hundred percent.

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And once you get opened up, So most witnesses I

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talked to, I would say more than one hundred percent.

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Probably once they are they have this interaction with a bigfoot,

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then you can almost bet on it they're going to

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have other stuff happen. It's like every time you can

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almost like put a have a bingo chart in front

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of you and be like, oh, yep, there's now the

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weird stuff that starts happening at home, or it's just

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it's very weird how it all relates together. And but

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but Rob, you know, I think, do you mind sharing

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what you experienced that that bigfoot encounter, that kind of

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you know, made all this occur for you and what

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happened to you back.

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In the day. No, I'd love to, and I'll preface

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everything by saying for your audience, when I was growing up,

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my dad brought me and my brother up on two

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things that he had was passionate about. One was sports

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and the other was monster movies. So at a very

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young age, I was introduced to the Black and White

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Bella Lagosi, Dracula, Lawn Cheney, The Wolfman, Boris, Karla Frankenstein,

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and then of course the sports world. And so I

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fell in love with monsters. And then later on in life,

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I saw the Patterson Gimmlin film and then I saw

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Leonard Nimoy in search of about Bigfoot. I'm like, wow,

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I think this yeah, and I'm open minded. I'm like, yeah,

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it's a possibility. I'm a I think maybe this exists.

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But prior to my Bigfoot experience, I kind of I

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realized this today and I did not read realize this

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when I was a young man, young little boy, young man.

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I had seen ghosts in my lifetime growing up, and

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now I know her for a fact, we're ghosts that

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I can say that I seen a ufo. My mom

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pointed out, I saw a UFO with my mother when

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I was married. You know, I saw shadow people with

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my wife, very freaking and strange things. But what pulled

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it all together and made me realize that, yes, there's

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something to all of this is when I did have

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my bigfoot encounter. And of course I had this after

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I was married. I got married in my early twenties,

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end up getting divorced, and so I had this girlfriend

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of mine who name was Cindy, and I wanted to

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surprise her and take her to a Cadillac Michigan. Now

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Cadillac Michigan sits in the Manistee National Forest. It's in

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Wexford County and as I found out later on after

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investigating all this after this experience, Wexford County is number one,

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the alleged capital of dog Man, and there's been numerous

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Bigfoot encounters in Wexford, particularly the Mannistone National Forest, which

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is I've really dived into this forest, I found out

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later on. There's a lot of sections of the forest

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and the forest is huge. It encompasses Lake Michigan to

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Lake here On, about three hours north of me, and

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it's just a vast forest. There's suggested curses put on

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the land by First Nations when the Europeans the white

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Man took over the land and pillaged the Indian folks.

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It was just all these things, right, and all this

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weird phenomena which I found out later. So anyway, going

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back to the story my encounter, this is where it

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takes place. Vntacy National Forest, Wexford, Michigan, Cadillac. So I

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call it. My girlfriend Cindy did not live with me

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at the time. You know, we were you know, boyfriend girlfriend.

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I said, look, I want to take you to Cadillac, Michigan.

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Here's what we're going to do. Yes, I want to

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do some fishing because I want to introduce you to

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the outdoors because I am an outdoorsman. I used to

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hike a lot and just enjoy mother nature. She's like,

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really fishing, I said, yes, But Cadillac is very quaint.

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There's a lot of little small it's a smaller town

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things for us both to do, antique shops. Yes, you'll

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have fun, but you know, let's do something. So as

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it turned out, I had a friend that was involved

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in real estate and he had this house you had

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up for sale, and he said, and I was talking.

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He says, hey, man, I'll let you. I'll let you

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use the house for the weekend. I'm like, oh cool.

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And then he said, I know a place where you

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can rent a small little skiff type boat and go

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out fishing and explore the lake. I'm like cool. So

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I get there and I remember these days, dikly. This

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was June fifteenth of twenty eighteen, not on the weekend.

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So when I get there, it's kind of everyone's at work, this,

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that and the other. And I always like to paint

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the picture of this story. So Cindy and I get there,

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we get the little skiff, we got the nice little cabin.

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We had a nice place to stay. And this day

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was it was a beautiful day. It was blue skies,

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sun was out in the forest, emerald green. It was

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a beautiful day. And it's always important that I tell

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people the description of how vibrant the day was. Cindy

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and I we get out about ten o'clock in the morning,

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and we're on Lake Cadillac. Now Lake Cadillac is pretty

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nicely built up. Back during this time, there's a variety

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of homes, million dollar homes. Two hundred thousand dollars homes,

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very diverse, small mama pop businesses and small industries along

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the lake. So you can see this. And so we're

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out fishing. After about an hour, Cindy is getting bored.

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I'm frankly, we're not catching anything. So I said, well,

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let's do some exploring. Let's you know, let's real the

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lines and let's just you know, take this little skiff

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and drive around the wake. We're checking out the scenery.

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Then I come across this canal or a channel, which

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led to an adjacent lake called Lake Mitchell. Now Lake

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Mitchell not as built up around the shore line as

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much as Lake Cadillac, but there were homes there, yes,

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but it backed up. The backdrop was the Manistee National Force.

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It's there and the forest drops right into the shoreline

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and Cindy I noticed it might be a little bit

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bigger than Lake Cadillac, to be honest with you. And

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so we're like, wow, this is beautiful. So we're taking

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in the scenery and then I found a spot in

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a cove which is called Mitchell Cove, and I said,

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this is the spot we're going to catch some fish.

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So I slowed down the trolling motor very slowly. I'm

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drifting ninety feet from shore. Per Apps and I get

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to change debait on their fishing rod and reels. So

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Cindy's kind of gazing out into the scenery and I'm

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down there, not paying any attention. And she says, hey, Rob,

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I think somebody's throwing rocks at the boat. I'm like, what, really,

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I don't hear anything. And I looked at the shore line.

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There's nothing. I said, it's probably just some fish jumping around.

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We got a great area. She goes, yeah, maybe, okay.

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Sixty seconds later, Rob, someone's throwing rocks at the boat.

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I just seen a rock fly from the tree line.

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I'm like, Cindy, okay. I looked at the shoreline and

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I'm like, I'm like, there's no wing. I said, honey,

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there's nobody there. So she's getting a little perturbed. I said, look, honey,

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I'm not saying no one is. But let me finish

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what I'm doing. Get the bait and tackle together, and

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you and I can both together observe fine, fine rock.

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So I'm doing. I'm looking down into the boat, and

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then for whatever the reason, I stop and I look

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up and I see something coming out the beautiful blue

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sky and it's like a rock about the size of

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a baseball. And sure enough, Jeremiah las maybe four feet

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in front of our boat, and I go look to

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Cindy to kind of apologize, because yes, this was launched

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from the tree line. I turned to look at Cindy.

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Cindy is standing up at this point on the boat.

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And at this time I must mention Cindy was a

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sun worshiper, a goddess. She already on June fifteenth, had

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a ripping tan head to toe. I'm looking at her.

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She's asphyxiated a shoreline. I must tell you that all

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the color in her skin was drained. That tan was dull.

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And I'm thinking, what was she looking at? And I

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looked to the shoreline, and a little clearing there is this,

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I always say, nine foot figure standing upright, arms on

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the side, covered in beautiful reddish brown hair from head

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to toe with the exception of the face. And I

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also have to include that this body was robust. It

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had it been four feet white. This was the biggest thing,

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and yes, thing I'd ever seen in my life. And

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people ask, how did you see the face so well?

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I said it was humongous. It was easy to see

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the head was humongous because I noticed the face. It's gray.

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It kind of looked wrinkled, and I know, I said,

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it looked like an odd human being. It had like

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an offset. The eyes were offset, big bulbous eyes, opaque,

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and a gray skin and a great chest. And again

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its arms are on the side, and I'm like, holy goo,

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I'm trying to process this. I didn't have enough time

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because all of a sudden, the arms that were on

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its side, it kind of raises like like an airplane

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like wings, and all this hair is draping down. But

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then it rolls back its head and that gray, grizzly

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human looking face got very taut, very tight, almost turned

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like a purple color. The eyes roll back black, and

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the jaw just stands literally almost like pac Man, right,

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remember back in the day. Down a little bit. This

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mouth is open. I see two teeth up top and

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two on the bottom, and darkness inside the mouth huge.

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You could fit a softball in there. And as it

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leans back, it left south as a god awful roar,

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scream and yell all in unison without moving the lips.

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And it was reminded me at this time of a demon.

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It looked like something out of a Marvel comic book.

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It was scary. When it let out that roar across

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the water from the shoreline, I felt the reverberation hit me.

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I felt it hit me, shockwave, whatever, and I kind

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of take a stumble back. Cidy, all five foot one

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and ten pounds, is standing up and she gets flipped

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into the water off of the boat. Now, mind you, everybody,

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the boat's a skiff. It's maybe six and a half

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eight inches out of the water, no more than eight

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foot long. It's two people person vessel. She falls into

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the water. Yes, she can swim, but of course I

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go to help her. Now at this instance, all of

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a sudden, That's why I like to say earlier in

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this show, in this podcast, I'd like to describe the day,

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because here's what happens. All of a sudden, the beautiful

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blue sky, the emerald green forest, this reddish prown creature, everything,

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And I'm looking through a filter, a grainy filter. The

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colors dissipated into like a black and white grain granular film.

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Now I try to move to my right to get

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Cindy into the boat, I'm paralyzed. I cannot move, I

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cannot see correctly, cognizance gone, and I'm just in my head,

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shaking in my head, trying to shake. And I had

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Rob Rob snap out of this. I have no idea

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what's happening to me. All of a sudden, I snap

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out of it. The color comes back, and I gained

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my cognizance back. Cindy's ready, almost halfway back into the skiff.

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I get her in. Then I'm I tell you what

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might have been even more terrifying is this. I look

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to the shoreline. This creature's gone. I don't know where

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it is. Does this swim Is it coming after us?

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I don't know who. So I turn that skiff round

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and I be lined across Lake Bitchell. I hit that canal,

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I hit Lake Cadillac, and I be lined all the

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way to shore. Get out, doctor skiff somewhere. Grab Cindy.

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At this point, it's maybe twelve twenty in the afternoon.

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Cindy's freezing. I try to warm her up. Go up

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this little hill in about half block up we see

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this bar rest. We walk excuse me, we walk into

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it again. It's like the middle of the week not

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very crowded. I remember distinctly looking to the right, there's

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a couple at the end of the bar sitting there.

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I looked to the left, nobody on the left, and

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there's boots on the back wall, and I be lying

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to the very back far corner with Cindy. We both

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sit down across from each other. Cindy's not a drinker.

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I owned a bar. Cindy came and visit me all

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the time, never seen a drink anything in her life.

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The waitress comes up, goes to Cindy, Hi, what you haveing.

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Cindy says, I want to bottle a bug light and

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shot at Shack Daniels. I'm like, wow, okay. Waitress looks

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to me what you have and I said, you know what,

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I'll have to say, make mine a double. She leaves.

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Sidney are looking at each other. We are not communicating.

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We're not even talking, shock processing, whatever's going on. At

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this point. Barmaide comes back, puts a bottle but light

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in front of Cindy. Shot of Jack. I get two bottles,

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a butt light and two shots of Jack. Cindy takes

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a shot of Jack and she puts it back like

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she's been drinking for fifty years bottle, but leg guzzle's

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half the bottle. I do the same. Cindy says to me, Robbie,

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what do you think that was? I said, Honey, I

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throw the question back at her. I kind of kind

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of an idea from my earlier childhood. What do you

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think that was? And she says, I think it was

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that bigfoot creature minds you. Indian and I during our

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relationship never spoke about bigfoot, cryptids, the paranormal nothing. I'm like,

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you know what, I think maybe it was. She says

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to me, should we call the sheriff the DNN report?

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Will we saw? And I says to her, and tell

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her exactly what not? Tell her, tell them exactly what

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I don't think. So I'm already thinking, yeah, I ain't

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gonna believe this right. So she goes, yeah, you're probably right.

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So we could not concentrate, and unfortunately the trip was wrecked.

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We tried to go into town, but this experience we

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had was just weighing on us. Unfortunately, we leave a

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couple of days early. Man, I think the next morning

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we just went home. As soon as we get home,

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we immerse ourselves on the internet type it in Bigfoot,

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type it in demons. Then I go on YouTube and

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never really use it. And I started typing Bigfoot and

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watching videos that were pulling up. And we did this

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for a long time, and you know, nothing really satisfied

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what I was looking for. The creature I saw kind

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of didn't look like what I was seeing in images.

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And I discovered some YouTube shows, podcasts, but nothing. It

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doesn't seem right. So I'm trying to reach out to people,

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and I'm a novice. I don't know any connections in

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this field. So again, Cindy didn't live with me. She

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lived with her mother. Now. Her mother, I have to

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tell you, did not like me, did not like me

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at all. The mother thought I was a demon. She

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was very religious Italian background, owned a bar. Therefore I

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was a demon. Yeah, it was bad. She despised me.

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She did so. As I mentioned earlier, June fifteenth of

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twenty eighteen, we had this encounter together. I get a

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call the morning of August fifteenth, twenty eighteenth, from her

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mom and I'm like her mouse calling me, this is weird. Hello, Oh,

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this is Cindy's mom. I'm like, yeah, I just want

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to let you know Cindy died of a heart attack

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this morning, and she goes and I blame you. She

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wasn't quite right when she came back from that little trip.

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I'm like, what are you talking about? Sydney was a

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heart attack? I don't believe that. Is this a silly prank. No,

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you're not invited to the funeral. If you show up,

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I'm going to have you thrown out. Sure enough, she

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passed away. Jeremiah, I go, I find out where the

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funeral is. I go there and yeah, I was escorted

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out of there. Never had the closure, never said goodbye, dude.

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Oh man, I gotta tell you. So. I went a deep,

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dark place. Man, I had no closure with my girlfriend.

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I don't know what happened. Anyway. I immersed myself deeper

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to subject right, but I'm not getting answers right. And

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I went in a dark place. People didn't believe me.

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They were calling me making things up. It was terrible.

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It got so bad that I went to my bar

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and I told my manager I have to take a

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leave of absence because I don't know going on, Boss,

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what's up? What's up? I can't explain it to you, man,

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Just hear the keys put the money in the bank.

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I trust you, I'll be back when I get back.

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I left work, man. I didn't go back to work

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for six months because I locked myself in my house

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investigating and trying to find people. Didn't find anybody that

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would help me. Anybody, man. I was lost. I was alone.

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So I'm watching a YouTube video and this guy, Carrie

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Arnold big Foot Otyssey, puts his phone on me and

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he told his encounter story, which was terrifying. It kind

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of reminded me of mine. Like I said, he leaves

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his number, call him best phone call I made my life.

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He's such a great man and he's passing on now.

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As you might know, Rob, you're not going crazy. And

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we spoke as total stranger. I happened to catch his

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very first video about his encounter. We talked, my friend.

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We talked to a stranger man. I remember I called

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him about eight o'clock at night. We got off the

448
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:34.440
phone at midnight, and then later on it suggested you

449
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.920
got to get this out. Then I did that dumb video,

450
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.000
and then you know, then I said, you know what,

451
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.279
I'm starting a channel because I want to help people,

452
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.720
Because I says, you know, I can't help Cindy any longer,

453
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.920
and that's the mystery in itself. So I started doing

454
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:53.440
this simply to share other people's experiences because I walked

455
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.960
forever alone man in darkness. I got my bar together,

456
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:02.440
got my senses together, continued out with the bar business.

457
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.720
I got somewhat back to normal. I ended up selling

458
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:09.720
the bar in twenty twenty, ironically on Thanksgiving when we

459
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.119
had the big you know, pandemic hit, which was fortunate.

460
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.839
And so I've kind of this is what I've been doing,

461
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.400
sharing people's stories, telling mine, having guests on, researchers, witnesses,

462
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.720
because I, for me, I'm giving back to the people.

463
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.079
I'm not doing the fame of fortune. Man. I am

464
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.000
in the spot today where I just want to help

465
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.359
others go through what I went through. And that's what

466
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:36.000
happened to me.

467
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:42.200
Bro Rob, I've actually never heard your story before, and

468
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.240
I am just is just heartbreaking to hear. I'm so

469
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.839
sorry that you lost Cindy and that you weren't able

470
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:55.960
to have that closure. I had no idea. I had

471
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.640
absolutely no idea. My goodness, it's so good to see

472
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.839
you in a good place now though, in helping people.

473
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.279
You know, because I tell you, there's a point, my

474
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.160
point in my life. I didn't I didn't care about

475
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.880
the business. I didn't care about me. I just want

476
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.200
to I just want to figure out what to happen.

477
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.000
And I tell you what, this would have been a

478
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:25.359
very cool encounter. Frankly because if Cindy didn't pass away,

479
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:30.559
because when this happened, certainly I was furious with her mom,

480
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.920
but I was furious with myself. I wanted to go back.

481
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.319
I almost called a bunch of my hunting buddies, and

482
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.839
I wanted to go back and hunt this thing and

483
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:43.400
kill it, see you know, and I that's what I

484
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:48.319
wanted to do. My first encounter with Bigfoot was crazy.

485
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.079
And even to this day when you have all these

486
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.319
people out there and people get mad at me, but

487
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:58.200
it doesn't matter to me because a lot of people, Jeremiah,

488
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:03.319
you know this bigfoots to friendly forest, giant, this, that

489
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.599
and the other. And I will tell you this, I

490
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:11.079
thought the Bigfoot because of the what happened with that,

491
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.319
people say inf sound it was bigger than that. I

492
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.079
don't know. I still don't know what that was. I

493
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.319
thought he killed her. I thought he messed up her body.

494
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.920
I did today. I don't really believe that way, per se.

495
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.279
I don't believe it was a demon either. After I've

496
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.720
been doing this stuff for since twenty eighteen. Really, I've

497
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.640
talked to hundreds and hundreds of people as you have,

498
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:39.039
so I have a better understanding. But I just I

499
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.759
just thought it was nasty creature. Today, I don't really

500
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:48.039
think so. I get it, but I'm not going to

501
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.319
let my kids play alone in the forest if there's

502
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.519
a family of bigfoot at my tree line. I'm not.

503
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.839
Some people do I don't. I wouldn't.

504
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:02.599
Like goodness, yeah, I not do that either. Maybe a

505
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.079
few questions about your actual encounter. How long do you

506
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.359
think that from when you first had the first part

507
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:16.119
of the sighting to then you're okay, let's get out

508
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.200
of here. Let's we're gonna take the boat out of here.

509
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.000
How long was that?

510
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.880
The funny thing about that, and I forgot to mention this.

511
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.119
I don't know why I slipped my mind when this

512
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:30.480
all happened, when that roar and that transformation and then

513
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.359
everything's graining, I can't move. It seemed like it'll lasted

514
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.839
an eternity. But I will tell you this, it was

515
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.799
probably no longer than twenty seconds, if I'm just lasting.

516
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.519
But as soon as I look to that short what

517
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:48.279
I got my cognizance back and Cindy was secured what

518
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.079
I've seen, there was nothing there. It freaked me out,

519
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.200
and so I whipped it around. The question that's odd

520
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.200
is that I can't give you a time frame how

521
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.400
long this all took. Sure, my counter was I think

522
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.480
it was twenty minutes worth of stuff, But the actual

523
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:09.320
physical seeing it and everything that happened thirty seconds or less.

524
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.760
I'm guessing to this day it's almost like memory. It's

525
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.800
almost like time loss, and it's not you know, yeah, absolutely.

526
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.599
Did you notice if oh, before I asked that, how

527
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.800
far away from it were you guys in the boat.

528
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.199
I always say, I guess tomate ninety feet because I

529
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.519
remember it was kind of like because I had ten

530
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.280
a lot of baseball games, it was kind of like

531
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.480
from first to second base, and people say, man, that

532
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.159
was kind of a distance, but not really. That's why

533
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.400
I always have to tell people something nine foot tall

534
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.840
approximately four wide, that's humongous, and that head was humongous.

535
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.000
I could see it very distinctly. I have a pretty

536
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.719
good vision, and it was yeah, I catched. I caught

537
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:56.639
every detail.

538
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.760
Oh absolutely, I mean being that close to you definitely would.

539
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.679
Did you notice if its eyes were just all one

540
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.519
color or did they seem to have whites on the

541
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:08.639
sides of them or.

542
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.800
In the very beginning, as I probably described earlier, that

543
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.360
I seem opaque, you know, of off colored. But then

544
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.639
when it kind of did that when amorphous, I guess

545
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:24.119
you could call it the eyes roll back dark black. Okay, yeah,

546
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.159
you know. And then and that face turned from that

547
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.400
grungy looking human because it looked very human, but just

548
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.920
a person, not like Neanderthal looking, right, But then it

549
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.000
looked it looked it looked like something totally different, right,

550
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.800
It turned purple. It just looked horribly terrifying.

551
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.199
That's actually something I wanted to to ask you about.

552
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.760
So that's really interesting. So did when you say it

553
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:54.360
looked purple like the skin turned a shade of purple

554
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.480
or or what do you mean exactly about that?

555
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.800
Well, what happened the grayish in the beginning is I

556
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.079
said it was the grayest, Trusty, it seemed like it

557
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.639
was this old, older person just again, but when he

558
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:10.440
did that move whatever it did, that skin got very taut.

559
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.960
It was almost reminded me like blood was just rushing

560
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:18.679
to its head. Okay, yeah, you know it was ready

561
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:23.719
to explode. And with the yell and the stream, it

562
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:28.559
was considerably loud. And in fact, here's an interesting thing.

563
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.239
When I first put that out and when I started

564
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.199
years later, well later on telling the story, I've gotten

565
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.880
so many emails about people hearing that roar out in

566
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.039
that area, not seeing what they believe. Something's out there.

567
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.840
No doubt about it. I ask about the purple thing

568
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:55.000
because I have heard another individual, Actually this is a

569
00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:01.119
Sasquatch summer fest and Oakridge last year, a mother shared

570
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.840
with me about how one of her sons they had

571
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.360
a RV type setup out in the woods and he's like,

572
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.880
I just saw a purple a bigfoot that looked purple.

573
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.039
And at the time, I was like, that's really weird

574
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.159
because I've never heard that. I've talked to hundreds of

575
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.719
people and I've heard someone else say it. I need

576
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.119
to look that up to get the details on that again.

577
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.119
And now you kind of have this detail. It's very

578
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.519
very interesting. Now you kind of alluded to it already,

579
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.599
but you know, I've talked to a few individuals about

580
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:42.360
this area in Michigan, and there's so much interesting bigfoot

581
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:47.159
things going on. I mean just in Mesik, Michigan, which

582
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:48.519
is a little bit northwest.

583
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:49.360
I talked to.

584
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.519
These guys and they actually call bigfoot in that area

585
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.480
the Marilla Gorilla, which is really interesting. I mean, there's

586
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.199
so much, so many things. And then the dog man

587
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:05.360
encounter on Tony Merkle's show, yea, you know, the one

588
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.480
I'm talking about that happened in the same forest.

589
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:07.880
I think.

590
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.079
But you know, after you know, let's say maybe a

591
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.840
few years after this, it sounds like you're starting to

592
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.000
get emails from people that are experiencing the same sounds.

593
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.960
But did you also do a deep dive into Okay,

594
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.400
you know what else is going on? How how much?

595
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.760
How many other bigfoot reports have been seen in this

596
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.760
forest around the area that I had this encounter.

597
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:38.920
Oh, there's reported I've seen probably like last time I checked,

598
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.719
it's been a while ago. I think in the in

599
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.840
the in the Wexford Mid County which is part of

600
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.559
the county and which is in the Nasty National Forest,

601
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:56.599
there is like one hundred and nine bigfoot encounters allegedly reported,

602
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.199
and that's an email, they're not all reported. And then

603
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:05.320
it's funny or interesting that when I, as I mentioned backstage,

604
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.000
it opened up this can of worms or this rabbit

605
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:14.440
hole from folks that would say about dog Man, about

606
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:19.079
the enchanted forest, the cursed land, because in nineteen eighty

607
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:23.760
seven there was a you know, a lot of steam

608
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.079
was brought upon, you know, Linda Goffrey came out of

609
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:28.920
the Beast of Prey Road, as we all know, got

610
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.760
rest of soul, right. So I started looking into that.

611
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.559
But then it was told to me by several people

612
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.159
that are in the dog man field. I guess you

613
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:41.440
could call it that wester County is quote unquote the

614
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:45.639
capital of dog man sightings and also a lot of

615
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.679
bigfoot chunters. There's also a lot of paranormal experiences outside

616
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.440
of these things. And I just happened to think that

617
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:57.599
this is somewhat related because I know and I study

618
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.880
the Manistee National Forest, let me tell you, and the

619
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:03.639
first dog man account and a lot of this goes

620
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:08.280
back to Dogman Paris, Michigan nineteen thirty seven was the

621
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.320
first actual creature that they coined a dog man. Before

622
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.800
eighty seven, when it's all kind of in Michigan. It

623
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.440
broke loose. In eighty seven, there was a radio guy

624
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.239
that made a jingle about the dog man. You know,

625
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.119
I think we've all heard that story before, which was

626
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.039
started out as a joke. But when people heard that,

627
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.599
they said, no, no, no, no, that is no Joe. There

628
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.320
are things out there. I guy on my show, Jody Cook,

629
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:41.360
he's a dog man guy. But he found came across

630
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.199
and seen a bigfoot in Wexford County. He had seen

631
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:49.880
the dog man in Wexford County. And I will tell

632
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.480
you the state of Michigan. You know, we always hear

633
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.400
about the Pacific Northwest, which is you know, we always

634
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.400
hear those stories. But where I live, about three hundred

635
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.239
miles north of me two hundred, that's a prime area

636
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.239
if you're a researcher. I don't call myself a researcher.

637
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.159
I do out in the woods and investigate things by

638
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.719
more of this. I'm more about the guy that tells

639
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.559
everyone else's story. You know, That's what I do. But

640
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.239
in my state of Michigan, and I'm not even including

641
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.440
me a peninsula, there's a lot of cryptid activity. I

642
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.599
like to say cryptid because there's both you know what

643
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.159
I'm saying, and it's very fascinating. And then of course

644
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:41.519
we're surrounded by these haunted lighthouses and all these other

645
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.920
mysteries of the woods that to me, it all kind

646
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.559
of blends together. I'm learning this the more I do this.

647
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.440
But yes, back to your original question, Yeah, there's a hundred.

648
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.000
You know, I think there is probably in my state alone,

649
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.719
maybe three or four hundred of them throughout the years.

650
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.599
From and again reports you can't rely on the reports

651
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.400
as much, but from people that have told me. I've

652
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:12.119
had probably fifty people in the last four years. Yes,

653
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.920
they've seen Bigfoot in these areas. They've seen dog Man

654
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.920
in these areas. Rob, you are not crazy, you you

655
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:25.239
you're onto it. There is something out there and and

656
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.440
so yes, so it's opened up that rabbit hole, that

657
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.920
proverbial rabbit hole, which is why I love doing what

658
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:36.000
I do today, because it's such a mystery that I

659
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:44.159
just find it fascinating. And in retrospect, I never thought

660
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.360
i'd be a back of a mic man. You know.

661
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.159
It's just weird how your path and life changes. Because

662
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:54.199
the path in my life has changed because of this.

663
00:42:55.320 --> 00:43:02.719
Oh same one hundred. It's crazy you to think about. Yeah,

664
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:11.239
it really is. Yeah, that just that took that took

665
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.000
me back for a bit to think about it. Really

666
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.320
it changed, It changed so much, entire family tree from

667
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:24.239
here on out. Yeah, Rob, You've talked to so many

668
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.360
people over the years, and you know on your show

669
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:33.360
and through email, and is there maybe one or two

670
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:39.280
accounts that people have told you that uh, were shared

671
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:44.119
with you, that that really stick out, that were You're like, Wow,

672
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.599
I feel really privileged to be a part of this

673
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.360
person's story by them telling me.

674
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.280
Yeah, there's there's several. Two always set me right off

675
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.559
the bat and again and one is in Michigan and

676
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.880
I on this story, I was talking to this man.

677
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.119
I interviewed him like on the stream Yard thing, and

678
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.119
he sent an email and said, I got to call

679
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:11.119
this guy. I got a hold of this guy. And

680
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.719
so he lives in the upper Peninsula of Michigan, keeping

681
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:22.480
it in Michigan and the Porcumine, the Porcupine Mountains, and

682
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.280
it is such a fascinating and this guy is there.

683
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.360
He told me, Rob, I'm a bigfoot research You're reaching

684
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:32.599
out to you this, that and the other and very

685
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.719
very invested into the research. But never came across anything.

686
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:41.440
He found some prints, the typical the print the X

687
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.880
you know, the X structures. We all hear about this,

688
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.400
that and the other. And one day he was driving

689
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:49.920
me down the freeway or the inter or the interstate

690
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.400
up north, and he thought, wow, this looks it looks

691
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.519
like a great idea, a great spot to go investigate.

692
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.360
So he pulls his jeep or truck off on the

693
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:03.239
side of the He's walking down the tree line and

694
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.320
it was very dense and he can't get in, but

695
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:09.719
he sees this small opening and he goes inside this.

696
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.880
He says, Rob's mill of day. I go inside and

697
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.719
it was almost like an above ground tunnel. The way

698
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.639
the trees were formed, it was like an arch. And

699
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:25.840
as he's proceeding in this above ground alleged tunnel of trees,

700
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.639
he pulls out his machete. He can start getting dance

701
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.920
and he's cutting away, cutting away and opening up this pathway.

702
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.320
And then he said to me, he says, Rob, I

703
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.239
got this feeling that I should turn around. He got

704
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.119
that instinct, Rob, you know what I did. I turned

705
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.320
around and I left. And he goes, that's unlike me.

706
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.000
So he says, I pondered this for several days, a

707
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.519
couple of weeks. Why did I What made me turn around?

708
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:02.840
This is what I do. He goes back, finds the spot.

709
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:05.360
Took him a minute to find the location because very

710
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.519
the average guy can't. You can't pick it out. I mean,

711
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:12.159
it's just just a tree line. Right, finds his area,

712
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.199
and he proceeds further in this path and he's going forward.

713
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.159
Guy's machete, he's hacking away. Bennett opens up and he says,

714
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.320
the trees kind of hovered low. Maybe he had to

715
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.800
start ducking down. It was like five foot So he's

716
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:31.519
ducking down. Then as he's walking, he notices he's getting

717
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:37.800
closer and closer than All of a sudden, he smells

718
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.920
something rotting. And again, even though it's a bright sunny day,

719
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.000
it's very dark in there. In fact, he said he

720
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.079
forgot his flashlight. He didn't think he need one. Then

721
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:53.360
he trips over something. He falls to the ground and

722
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.280
he's covered in blood. Then he realizes he tripped over

723
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:04.840
dead a freshly dead car of a deer. Okay, so

724
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.360
he doesn't he doesn't want, he says, Rob, I did

725
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.400
not want to turn around, so I just proceeded further

726
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:16.239
past this deer. Then ahead he sees that opening a

727
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.320
light ahead where the tunnel of the trees, the tunnel

728
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.239
of trees was ending. Then all of a sudden, in

729
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.920
the back of him, he hears something walking, but not

730
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.519
walking by petally, because again this is only like maybe

731
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.280
five foot in depth. And he says, I'm a five

732
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.920
foot eight guy, so I was crouched down. But he

733
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.519
hears something in the back of him, and he's like,

734
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.320
oh no, and he thinks that maybe he stumbled into

735
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:50.719
a bear down and that was the bear's kill. Continues on.

736
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.280
Now he sees his tunnel the light and he says, yeah,

737
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.519
I gotta continue on toward the light. But then he says,

738
00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:00.480
rob for whatever reason, I've got to look over my shoulder. Now,

739
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:02.679
he says what he looks over is and he sees

740
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.800
this in his shadows. He doesn't see a creature standing up,

741
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.559
but he sees something that was walking like a big spider.

742
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.000
He thinks, what isn't the Porcupine mountains and he thinks

743
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.480
what he's looking at is a humongous spider. He says

744
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:23.119
that the tunnel of trees, the width of it was

745
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.880
maybe six feet five and a half six feet, but

746
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.119
he can see like arms extended out crawling and they

747
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.079
pretty much was the width of this tunnel of trees.

748
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.519
He's like, what is this a spider? He's thinking, what

749
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:42.239
it ain't no bear. So this guy and I was terrified,

750
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.039
and he's he's not running because he knows about the

751
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:50.360
predatorial instinct. You're run, you're done. And he continues forward,

752
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:54.480
getting closer to the light. Then he finally breaks out

753
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:58.840
into this meadow, this pasture. It's maybe one hundred yards

754
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.320
in depth, and at the other end of the pastures

755
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.559
another a tree line, another set of woods. So he

756
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.000
kind of picks up his step a little bit, but

757
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:12.679
all of a sudden, he says, role I have to stop.

758
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.880
I have to look over my shoulder. He goes, what

759
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.519
I saw when I looked over my shoulder was not

760
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.880
a gigantic spider, which is what he was envisioning. He says,

761
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.679
it was a tall and he says he thinks it

762
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:31.960
was a bigfoot. It was tall and standing there looking

763
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.599
at him, and he turns his head around and he

764
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.880
continues to walk. He's not chased. It doesn't pursue him,

765
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:45.320
does not look back over his shoulder. He's still terrified.

766
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.400
He gets to the tree line. Now he says, man,

767
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.599
where am I? I'm lost? I don't know how to

768
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.519
get back. I'm not going back that way because his

769
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.480
entire navigation system in his mind is blown. Don't know

770
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.400
if he had or anything like that. So he gets

771
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:08.280
into the woodline, he finds this natural trail, follows the

772
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:13.480
trail to the freeway. He's like, man, oh, where's my vehicle.

773
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.159
I don't know where I'm at. So a semi truck,

774
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.280
a big a semi got a semi driver, and this

775
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:24.199
was a logging country. It was a logging vehicle, right,

776
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.079
And the guy you know pulls the thumb hey tries

777
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:28.880
to flag him out. So the man in the vehicle

778
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.840
stops and he looks at this guy, and this guy

779
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.760
forgets he fell into He fell into the dead carcass

780
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:39.400
of the deer. And this guy doesn't even realize it,

781
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:44.360
but his clothes are covered in blood. And this guy

782
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:49.480
kind of looks at him. You in trouble year? Should

783
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.000
I trust you? What's going? He goes, No, I was

784
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.480
back in the woods. I fell into a dead deer carcass.

785
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.000
This is a deer bud. I don't know where I'm at.

786
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.360
I'm lost, I got I got scared. He doesn't really

787
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.960
mention the other thing that what had led to his

788
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.519
terrify being terrified. He goes, Okay, get out here, and

789
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.159
where's your vehicle? He goes, I think he told him

790
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.559
the highway road that he remembered. He goes, Oh, I

791
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.800
know where that is. It's about check this out. He goes,

792
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:23.320
it's about a twenty five minute ride. And this guy's like, really,

793
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.960
that's how far off of course I am, which I

794
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:31.119
found that to be bizarre. So these guys are chit chatty,

795
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.800
and this truck driver's senses that this guy this more

796
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:38.679
to this guy's story other than the deer. He goes, look, pale,

797
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:41.519
you tell me I've been I lived in the Porcupine Mountains.

798
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.039
I've seen it all. Tell me this something happened. Tell

799
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.679
me you're with a friend. I'm not. I trust you. Guys, well,

800
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.480
you're not going to believe this. I told the story.

801
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:56.519
And this guy looks at him and he says, oh,

802
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:59.079
I believe you. He goes, what do you mean that

803
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:04.880
was sasquatch? You saw sasquatch. They're all over here, that's

804
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.719
what you saw the guy kind of thought that he

805
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.440
did after a while, because you know, we've all heard

806
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:12.760
about the sasquatch too, the spider crawl. You ever get

807
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:18.800
stories or forts? Yeah, oh yeah. So so the man

808
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:23.239
they finally find his vehicle, thanks him. He goes, hey,

809
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.599
good luck they're there. They're a sasquatch, just that, and

810
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:28.840
the other he goes, good luck to you in your future.

811
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.840
And they parted ways and he says, Rob, that was

812
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.840
my experience. And I drove home, and he goes he

813
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:42.199
hasn't gone back yet because he just was frazzled, you know,

814
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.480
because people don't understand when you see something. Okay, you're

815
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.559
a bigfoot researcher and you believe in bigfoot, but it

816
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.360
doesn't matter until you physically see something like this. You

817
00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:01.360
cannot process this stuff. I could process mice experience, so

818
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.320
I can see where you might have a change of

819
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.599
tune in attitude.

820
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.639
Right, Oh my goodness. That is that is an intense story.

821
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.239
And that's uh. Is that one that you can listen

822
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:13.880
to on on your channel as well.

823
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.039
That's in the book. That's in books. I don't know

824
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:18.199
if you got through the book yet. That's in the

825
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.159
one one or book one or two. It's in there,

826
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.519
Porcupine Mountain, Bigfoot or something.

827
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.199
Okay.

828
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:29.880
I went to Missouri in September. My group did the

829
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.199
Crossing and Revels conference. Yeah, some incredible stories from people.

830
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.159
It's so funny, you know, it's cool. I mean, it's

831
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.239
so surreal because I set up camp, I brought my books,

832
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:44.840
and I gotta tell you, you don't think that people

833
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:48.199
follow you. It's just so amazing to meet people. I've

834
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:51.159
been following your show forever. You're awesome. I got your books.

835
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:56.119
People brought their book to the conference for me to sign,

836
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.000
and I got two pretty incredible stories, you know, from people.

837
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:03.360
Well here, I gotta tell you the story. An amazing event.

838
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:12.039
And the people in this environment, they're so nice, A

839
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:13.920
lot of them are. You know. We always hear about

840
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.039
the deck Stad and all the bs that I don't

841
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.559
want to talk about, but there are so many genuine

842
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:22.320
people that they're just bulging to tell you their story,

843
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.840
you know. And yeah, and I picked up some stories

844
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:29.320
which I haven't shared yet, but amazing things. I got

845
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.880
a story from a guy to saw a werewolf, as

846
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:33.519
he said, but he says, well, I probably was a

847
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.679
dog man picking apples off of this family's orchard tree

848
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.760
and eating them and staring at the guy. Wow, you know,

849
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:47.199
I mean, just some amazing things. Amazing. I'm a believer,

850
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:49.400
first of all, I'm a no or not a believer.

851
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.559
I've seen what I've seen. But it's just so funny

852
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.760
that people just don't believe in this stuff. And I

853
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.840
guess I get it, but man, it goes on every

854
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.400
day in our backyards.

855
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.840
Literally literally depending where you're at. And I know, like,

856
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:11.800
so when you say you're southeast Michigan, is that that

857
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.400
is that over north of Detroit or south of like

858
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:15.920
the area.

859
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.599
I am south of Detroit. I'm close to the Detroit River,

860
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.880
which doesn't run too far from here. So when I

861
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:29.360
say southeast, it's like Bluefield Hills wind out in the downriver. Yeah,

862
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.239
we're just I'm just I'm twenty minutes from downtown Detroit

863
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:33.079
on the freeway.

864
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.239
Oh wow. In that area was extremely I mean it

865
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.719
had that big thing that was in Monroe. I think

866
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:41.719
that happened the last year, right, there.

867
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.400
Was a bigfoot counter in Monroe. Well, a husband, a

868
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:50.679
man and a sun seeing this bigfoot crawl out of

869
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.679
a creek covered in mud and run up a hill. Yeah,

870
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.519
that was a Monroe, Michigan. In fact, Monroe, Michigan, there's

871
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.840
bout four or five there. There's another one in Mirue,

872
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:07.960
Michigan called the River Raisin, which actually runs to a

873
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:13.039
huge golf course, and there's been alleged bigfoot reports there

874
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:19.719
as well. And believe it or not, allegedly there was

875
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.199
a bigfoot spotted in downtown Detroit in a McDonald's going

876
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:29.199
through the dumpster. I believe it, you know, I mean crazy.

877
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:33.239
And I'll tell you why, because I've also talked to

878
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:38.800
a gentleman about a bigfoot encounter he had in Detroit,

879
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.639
and that gentleman was violent j from ICP. I was

880
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.000
able to interview him a few years ago, and he

881
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.039
has a wild bigfoot encounter in the middle of Detroit.

882
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.880
So yeah, I don't think it's out of the question

883
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.079
that stuff is even happening in that city.

884
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:57.239
It is, And I will tell you this and the

885
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.800
things about Detroit I've heard. Okay, here's the thing. Detroit

886
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.480
is humongously big at the inner city and a lot

887
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.599
of it runs along the Detroit River, and there's a

888
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:11.000
wildlife and there's there's forests. I mean when I say forests,

889
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.920
not like you're thinking, is there's that's woods, right, they're

890
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.440
not even named a national park or state park, but

891
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:21.559
it's woods. And as the more, when I started really

892
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:27.679
diving into researching this stuff, Bigfoot is travels among the waterways,

893
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:33.159
you know, the interstate, the what you call the power

894
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:38.599
lines in the woods, right, I mean railroad tracks that

895
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.400
go on and on and on, and parts of Detroit,

896
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.639
you know, it's lined by the Detroit River, and there's

897
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:51.199
so many abandoned buildings that people, the police don't even

898
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.599
go into. You don't even know what's back there because

899
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.159
I can very easily see them coming out from the

900
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:02.519
waterway of the river, the surrounding woodlines, right. And maybe

901
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.159
they're they're by mistake, maybe they're not. You know, so

902
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:10.920
I don't rule out these creatures bigfoot, whatever you call them.

903
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:12.800
I still don't even have an exact word to what

904
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:16.440
they call them. Right, They're all over man, and I

905
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:21.320
think there's more out there than people think. I agree,

906
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:26.880
And I had reports about dog men on uh and

907
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:30.679
grow Zeal Michigan and all the surrounding islands that there's

908
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:38.480
things out there, my goodness. I mean, it's yeah, it's

909
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.280
it's just fascinating, you know. And but yes, I thought

910
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.960
that was such a story though. Okay, Adam McDonald's dumpster eating,

911
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:47.480
you know, a big mac. I mean, I'm just I

912
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:49.639
made that up. But you know what I'm saying, it's

913
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:50.280
just funny.

914
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.559
I mean, it is, it's funny, but it's also like

915
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:59.119
it fits the pattern where they're going to take the

916
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.760
easy if they find a place with a lot of

917
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:07.599
food like that, or maybe if someone in Oklahoma is

918
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.760
holding on to deer that that are on freezers on

919
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:14.840
their front porch, they're going to take that easy route.

920
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:18.239
Or they go the casinos with the geese, the casinos

921
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.400
with the grease trap dumpsters in the back, and that's

922
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:25.840
happened too, So I mean, yeah, there's all sorts of weird, weird,

923
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.800
funny stories, but I think there's definitely some truth to

924
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.000
them too. But you know, Rob, it has been such

925
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:34.199
a such a privilege to be able to have a

926
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:36.840
conversation with you finally, but I want to make sure

927
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.039
that you're able to take a few minutes to share

928
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:43.719
you know, how people can make sure they keep up

929
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.920
to date with what you're doing. Watch your shows and

930
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.920
you know, pick up a copy of your books as well.

931
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:54.440
Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, simply YouTube. I'm on YouTube,

932
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:56.920
but it's very easy. It's a Bigfoot in Michigan Rob

933
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.760
on YouTube. This is my fourth year doing it, and

934
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.039
the show I have three shows. Tuesday night is the

935
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:08.519
live interview show where I have guests that either experiencers

936
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:12.320
or researchers and we talk about all the cryptids and

937
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.599
the paranormal. I mean we've kind of I've kind of

938
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:18.679
made it a goal to be more diverse, so you'll

939
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.239
get the cryptids, you'll get some UFO stuff. So that's

940
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.639
Tuesday at nine, and I'm also on Thursday afternoon at

941
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:29.159
one and Saturday night at eleven, so I'm on three

942
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.639
live shows a week. I'm also got the two books

943
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:36.519
called Bigfoot Mission Represents True crypt and Encounters Book one

944
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:39.639
and two. All you need to do there is type

945
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.199
Bigfoot Mission Rob in your Amazon browser. And I got

946
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.280
links and stuff on my profile page of my YouTube channel,

947
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:51.679
and I'm on Twitter, ex Instagram. You know, you can

948
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.079
look me up. It's very easy to find. All you

949
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.360
do is type Bigfoot Mission Rob. All my stuff pulls up.

950
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:59.239
I kind of set it up that way, and I'm

951
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:03.360
looking to do a website, and I'm a mutual friend

952
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.840
of ours Bigfoot Fidez, I like to give for a shout.

953
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:07.599
Ou atually helps me out a lot of stuff. And

954
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.039
We're going to be putting together a website where I

955
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:12.639
can put all my stuff because I'm also going to

956
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:16.119
be selling my year. People want. I usually wear Bigfoot

957
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:20.199
Miss rob bandanas, so I'm finally going taking those and

958
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.440
I'll be doing that all the knickknacks, you know, stuff

959
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:28.199
like that. But my biggest thing is my YouTube channel.

960
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.159
It's my baby. It's why I started. If I'd never

961
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.880
had this encounter BM I would not exist. He would

962
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.599
just be some dude. But I had a life changing

963
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:42.719
experience and I'll have to share this phenomenon with everybody

964
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.920
because everybody should be at least aware, and it's a

965
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:48.199
safe place to come. You won't be judged, you won't

966
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:52.400
be ridiculed like I was. That's why I really do it,

967
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:53.880
to be honest, one.

968
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.320
Hundred percent shout out to Bigfoot Fades.

969
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:02.480
I call it purpose. I know. Yeah.

970
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:06.480
Also one last saying, how can if people want to

971
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:10.800
reach out to you specifically maybe about an encounter or

972
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.519
just ask you a question. Is there a way they

973
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:14.880
can contact you directly.

974
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:20.719
Yeah, my email is beyond bmr at gmail dot com.

975
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:24.400
So b E y O N D blah blah blah,

976
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:28.360
Bigfoot Beyond bmr at gmail dot com.

977
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.920
Perfect. That's awesome. Just just in case, I want to

978
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:33.239
make sure you're yeah no, not Michigan stuff.

979
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:35.320
So yeah, no, I tell you, I do get a

980
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:37.719
lot of Michigan Andrews. I get a lot of stuff

981
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:42.199
from Michigan, and you know, another states have been picking

982
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.159
up over the last couple of years, so I just can't.

983
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:47.360
I'm very happy and proud of what I've been doing.

984
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.280
And uh and yeh. And I love the audience and

985
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:55.360
the people that join your show like you're your awesome show.

986
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.679
I love Bigfoot Society. I listen to it when I can,

987
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:02.199
thank you, and when I don't want to watch your

988
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.199
live Show's right, Yoda lists do a nice podcast. Is

989
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.159
you do. Do a great job, great stories, great guests,

990
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.800
and you do a great job. So hats off to

991
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:11.320
you as well.

992
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:14.159
Thank you well Bigfoot Michigan Rob, thank you so much

993
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.320
for coming on the show. We'll be watching to see

994
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.679
what you come out with next. But thank you so.

995
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.000
Much for coming on. Hey, thank you so much.

996
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:26.599
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

997
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:29.880
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

998
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.760
would love to get out in those woods and experience

999
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:37.320
it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.

1000
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.920
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1001
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.920
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1002
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.559
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1003
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:53.760
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1004
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:56.079
be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.

1005
01:03:56.239 --> 01:04:01.639
I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you

1006
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:08.239
haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1007
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:10.360
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

1008
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:13.159
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1009
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:18.400
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1010
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:23.320
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

1011
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:26.519
not only go to the festival, but you can also

1012
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:34.119
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1013
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:38.880
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

1014
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:42.840
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1015
01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:46.519
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

1016
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:49.760
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1017
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:52.880
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1018
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.159
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1019
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.719
To get a ticket, head on a or just Sasquatch

1020
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:05.880
Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code BSP

1021
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.639
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

1022
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.639
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1023
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:18.760
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1024
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:25.239
that you guys can can get a little help with

1025
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:28.599
the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

1026
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:32.880
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

1027
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.199
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

1028
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.840
many people last year and the year before. It is

1029
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.800
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

1030
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:46.559
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

1031
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.199
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1032
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.760
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1033
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:55.760
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1034
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.000
can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or

1035
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.480
forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

1036
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:06.079
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1037
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:09.239
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1038
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.840
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1039
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.920
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1040
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.559
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1041
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.719
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1042
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:26.559
on a remote oil field or a trucker with government

1043
01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:30.280
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1044
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.920
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1045
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.480
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1046
01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:41.239
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1047
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:44.519
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1048
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.360
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,

1049
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:51.920
NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

1050
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:56.599
public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

1051
01:06:56.599 --> 01:07:01.679
if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

1052
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:04.800
at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

1053
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:08.719
you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

1054
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:14.679
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1055
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:17.239
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1056
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.480
of The Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

1057
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:23.039
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1058
01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:26.039
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

1059
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:29.280
tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

1060
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.880
to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell

1061
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.119
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1062
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:37.760
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1063
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:40.920
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1064
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:43.239
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1065
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.920
star positive review because all that helps more people discover

1066
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:49.920
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1067
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.960
has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

1068
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:56.159
from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

1069
01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:59.480
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1070
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:02.079
gotten a chain yet, check out our membership community over

1071
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:06.039
at www dot Bigfoot societypodcast dot com and that's where

1072
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:09.599
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1073
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.599
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1074
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:16.680
to connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot

1075
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.520
subject as much as you are. Thanks again for following

1076
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.199
along with the Bigfoot society until next time, keep your

1077
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:25.119
eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what

1078
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:27.359
else might be out there? And see you in the woods.