Feb. 18, 2026

When the Forest Answers Back in Rural Michigan

When the Forest Answers Back in Rural Michigan
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the compelling experiences of Stacy from rural Michigan, a disabled veteran who has spent years uncovering unexplained activity on his own property. Living near farmland and within miles of the Black River area, Stacy shares how subtle changes in the woods slowly gave way to unmistakable encounters that demanded his attention. As he began spending more time on the land, he noticed unusual tree breaks, carefully arranged structures, and large tracks appearing in places no one else traveled.


Stacy recounts moments in the woods that felt deliberate and intelligent, including encounters that left him rethinking how closely something may be observing human activity. With trail cameras set throughout the property, he describes strange patterns, unexpected interference, and imagery that raised new questions rather than providing easy answers. His experiences also led him to explore the deep history of the land, including Indigenous traditions and the idea that these beings may be tied to the landscape in ways that go beyond the physical.


Thoughtful, grounded, and deeply personal, Stacy’s account offers a detailed look at what it’s like to live alongside something unknown. Join us as we explore his ongoing experiences and the growing mystery surrounding this active area of rural Michigan.

Contact Stacy here: atkinsstacy67@gmail.com

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You're listening to Big Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Stacy today. Stacey is

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a listener from the well from Michigan, we'll say, and

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Stacy might be providing more info later regarding that Stacy's

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also a disabled veterans. Thank you for your service, sir.

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That will also perhaps come into play with his account

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as well. But there's a lot of interesting things that

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Stacy has been going through over the last few years.

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So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing today?

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I'm doing good. I'm good, real good. Absolutely, I live

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I live in Jedto. I had a stroke and what

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was it? And got wrote it down and I'm gonna

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be grabbing. Okay, I had a stroke in the summer

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or yeah, I had a stroke in April twenty three

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and then I had seizures February thirty of twenty twenty four.

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So I'm basically and it's for all my service that

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I had done for my country. I'll regret it any

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but I'd do it again if I had to. So

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that being set was in the construction feel. I drove

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a truck on gravel train, so because of because I

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ham' a stroke, it affected my optical nerve. So my

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carreptial vantage is you can't drive a truck like that.

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I'm disabled plus plus when you have seizures, Uh, you

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got to be off the seizure medication for ten years

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before you can get back to hand in the wheel

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only truck in fifty nine, I don't I don't see

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it happening, you know what I mean. And I'm took

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me care of by the military, so I really ain't

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got to complain about that. So this is what I'm

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what leads up to that is I've never I've been

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here five years and I never really had the time

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to really draw. Look, you know what I mean. They

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were out there then, but because of we have ten acres,

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but because of me and going out and looking around,

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they didn't feel threatened. You know what I mean. Nobody

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hunts on our property, so there's no hunters out there

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looking for them. And that's and plus. And we have

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a lot of food on this property, apple, trees, berries,

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you name it. Well, we're out look. You know, we're

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thirty miles like northeast of of Port Hearing, so it's

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all farm country out here. What brought my attention to

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this is that we didn't have a trail that went

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all the way all back. We only cut part of

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the property. We owned ten acres. You know, there's no

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reason to cut everything. And so what I'd done is

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I had already kind of got a trail through there.

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I took a chainsaw and I cut a bunch of stuff.

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F up. There was a bunch of vines in there.

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They had Look, I said, it took in these trees

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and you can see where they had been twisted. You

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gotta have a thumb for that, man. I mean, that's

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the only thing that can do that is somebody that's

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got fourth fingers in a thumb, and when I started,

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I'm like and I even said something to my wife.

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Then I'm like, hull this bigfoot. No, yes, no, but

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it was. I didn't push it because I'm like, oh,

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you know, I'm tired. I worked a lot of hours,

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and this is before I had my stroke. So I

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went out and cut the trees down. I never had

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any other problems after that. The stuff didn't happen until

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I cut the trail the rest of the way out

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back kind where we already cut at. You know, it's

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all it's really thick. So I cut a trail back

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there that way we can get to the bat. My

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friend comes out occasionally hunts on the property, so that

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takes them all the way all back with it year run.

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So while I'm doing this, I'm cutting this trail, oh bet,

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to get to where we wanted to go. I see

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the first rock and it's coming in right, and I'm like,

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who's throwing rocks? Now? The second rock come in and

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hit the metal part of the clippers and come back

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and hit me in my chest. So they gave me pause. Man,

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you know my huse. So I have my nine millimeter

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capt a couple of rides in the ground. I'm like, hey,

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keep throwing rocks, you're gonna get shot, you know, because

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that's what I thought it was. I thought it was

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a bunch of kids. But I should know better than that,

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because you know why some of the structures. Somebody try

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me to tell they were children. I said, no, listen,

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First of all, kids, they're not that, I says, they're

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not that dedicated to the cost come out here and

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build all this, man, I says. And plus, it's not

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a hunter You can go on eBay or not Eba,

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but Amazon and buy a buy a hunting blind for

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a couple hundred bucks. So automatically knew there was something.

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And then I saw some footprints. Oh, I've got I

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took pictures of these footprints Brian. When Brian come out here,

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he found footprints too. And then some of the trees

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that were snapped. I mean, these trees, man, they're not

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it's not the wind it is. There's no way could

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be the wind. And there's just too many of them,

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you know. And it's like in the woods, they're not

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on the outskairt of the woods. They're not you know

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what I'm saying. And listen. Being in the military, I

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was around helicopters though, and chappers that come in and

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land by trees. They pushed the whim cheezel cheese will

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bend before they break. And I'm gonna tell you, I

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never seen on the trees broke down by the flight

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lighter where some of these guys landed. Sometimes they're worthy

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came in it. So you know, on the wind, yeah,

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dead trees. I got a lot of dead trees out here.

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But they're not off from the wind. It's impossible because

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they're broken way up high. I'm talking seven eight feet

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off the ground. Man. They're snapped and some are snapped

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them loped and pointing pointing out. You're like this, you know,

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point like I said, just snapped and is pointing towards

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the woods. The other part believe part of put you know,

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towards the out of the woods. And so when I

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saw this stuff and I'm like wow, man, and then

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I had them roster at me. I'm like, I definitely

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got a bigfoot. And then I fell on the footprints

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and I'd called Brian out after my daughter and her

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boyfriend had come out here. Okay, we go all the

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way out back and they're on the one side. I

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walked down a little fire there and all of a

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sudden there's a rock rock come in and landed between

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her and her boyfriend, and she goes, Dan, did you

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throw a rock? And I'm like, no, I'm throwing rocks.

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Throw a rock at you guys. And and then I

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heard the second rock come on because it's you know,

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it's hitting it's hitting the branches. So I walk over there,

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and just as I almost get to these two, a

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rock as big as a basketball gets hurdle at us.

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And I seen it coming because I could hear it.

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I heard it coming first in it and it landed

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in between the three of us, and so that I'm like, okay,

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we I need to have a bigger firearm than what

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I got on of the just in case. I really,

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I really don't want to kill warm its kind of

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people are killing, man? What good is that? Do You're

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gonna kill something that that's lived on this earth longer

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than any of us? Why wouldn't you want to? You know,

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maybe you can study it from afar. I don't think they,

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you know, I've kind of changed my mind on a

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few things about that. But anyways, getting back to that.

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So we got we got out of there. You know,

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because when these things start throwing rock like dan at you,

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they're throwing pretty close and if they wanted to yet you,

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I know they get yet you. I just think it's

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a warning to get out of there. Next time you

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not be so lucky.

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Absolutely so, the basketball sized rock, it sounds like you

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were able to see it come towards you. Did you

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see if it had an arc or was it straight

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at you?

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That was Nope, that was an arc because it traveled.

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Like I said, I just seen it in the air

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where it was starting to arc because it hit these

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branches and the leaves were coming down. What is that?

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And it landed right there in it worled like it

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perfectly was thrown not to hit anybody, but to say, hey,

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you know what, you guys need to get out of here.

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And we got out of here. I'm not starting around

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to find out, especially not with a just a nine

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millimeter And I've invested in firearms. Like I said, I

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don't want to kill any stupid why would you want

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to kill? Let's go there was to kill every animal

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we can find, you know what I mean. I'm not

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a hunter. Sou But anyways, so after that little skin

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that happened, I'm like, I stayed out away from all

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back for a while because I'm like, you know, perfect example.

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I go back shortly after all this happened, all right,

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and I had cut a trail, like I said, and

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there's all these I didn't do this. None of this

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was like this when I was out there. But then

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you get these branches that I had cut down trees,

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they they got them like from the trail up and

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they're leaning against other trees. But you know, I mean,

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who does this? I didn't do this. And I tell

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you what, right out behind my house, right out behind

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my house, there's structures built right next to my garage.

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There's structures built where I'd built a platform up off

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the ground so I could see them. They built something

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right next to that. Plus there's another like structure built

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right off the trail right there. I can't believe how many,

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Like I said, I can't believe how many, how many structures,

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I've seen. But I wasn't never really looking before, you

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know what I mean, and ever, never never thought about

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it until I saw those footprints, and uh, I was like, WHOA.

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I was just out there yesterday and uh I have

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I've got three uh uh camera traps and uh I

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set them up. I let him go for a little

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bit out where I've had activity and I just brought

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him in yesterday. I haven't looked at him yet because

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I'm because I'm a stroke victim and named Lacy.

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Sure.

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Uh, I'm very I'm excited. You know why. I'm gonna

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tell you why I've caught hinds and orbs on my

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on my trail cams, all kinds and uh. In fact,

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just this morning, I got an alert on my on

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my cameras and it's like, I I know how to

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explain it. It's like an orb it's an orb and

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side where this dructure's been built and then it kind

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of it kind of fades away I and it's itself itself.

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The sun comes up in the east. There's no way

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then that could have been a reflection for my camera

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because it was on the side, it was on the

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it was on the west side of the tree where

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this thing was lit up, so that I'm like, there's

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no way that. And plus if you look through my

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my cameras like that, you can see that they're aw clean.

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I make sure they are so I know it's not

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reflashing of light. You can see it. It's weird. I

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got two pictures of it, and then there's another one

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like that. I've got another one that was upside my

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house here that upon it. At first I thought it

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was a set of headlights, but it was only one light.

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And then all of a sudden, you see it. There

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is another one, another picture. It goes right up against

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the tree and there's a reflection from this tree back

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at this thing. What is it? I know, I just

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know that, Uh, my cameras are set pretty high for

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them to be set off because I just don't want them,

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you know, Chigger and everything, I more or less, you know,

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you're gonna chip it off. I don't know what this

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what this entity was. Oh, it looked, it looks solid,

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you know what I'm saying. And and this is kind

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of maybe changed my mind about Bigfoot and a spiritual realm,

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let's say, because if they wander do something to us

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that day in the woods, they could have done it

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all day long, but they chose not to, so I

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you know, I don't know if that's the spiritual being

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of it that like, hey, this is our land. You know,

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you got yours, you know, mind your business, stay out

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of here because nobody really, nobody haunts out there. And

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then we're the State Game Land. You go. Black River

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is just due east of my house.

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Yeah, And I want to jump in for a minute

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because it's important for listeners to make a connection with that.

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They may and you've mentioned Brian's name already, but Brian

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Sawyer from Bigfoot of Michigan slash Bigfoot of America. I

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think he also calls it. He's been on the show

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a few times and he has talked about the Black

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River slash port here on State Game Area, which is

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extremely active. And what that's about twenty thirty miles away

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from where you're located.

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No, it's not even that. It's oh really yeah five six?

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Oh my goodness. So yeah, dude, you're right there. You're

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you're pretty much in the thick of it.

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Yeah. And there's there used to be uh a boy

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scout true that you stop go down here in camp

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and stuff. Uh, they no longer, it's no longer active.

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And I imagine that there's probably a lot of activity

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there just because it's close to the Black River. Nobody

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goes there so and so, if you're gonna come up, man,

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and you don't want to be seen, that's the way

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you're gonna come because there's nobody there to see you.

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And and then the stream, like I said, runs right

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up into our property from Black River. It's a perfect form. Man.

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There's all firm land around here. There's plenty of plenty

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of stuff to eat, dear. But I know for a

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fact that something has built these structures. And it's not me,

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and it's not a kid, because they're not dedicated enough

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to the costs for all that. And somebody built it.

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It wasn't me. And you know when I think, when

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I see a lot of these these vines have been

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picked up off the ground, dragged up into the air

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and around the branches and back down. Now, somebody said,

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you know, it's not going to probably support you know,

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a nine hundred pound animal like a bigfoot. But what

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about their little babies teaches them how to fly, They

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get them up high, so there's no danger to them,

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you know, I I think. Well, in fact, the last

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time I spoke to Brian Sawyer, Brian told me that

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there's like two clans living out here, one towards the

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south of my property and one north of my property.

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And there's you know, there's a lot of woods that

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run along the roadway. Well they kind of you know,

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snow rolls for the farm land. Yeah, you going on

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the road man, And I swear, I kid you not.

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These these have been all dripped over where. Uh it

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kind of hides. One time I thought there was something

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in it. I actually stopped to look, but you could

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see I didn't see any footprints, but you could see

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where something had laid down in there. But again, it's

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hard to tell because you have snow that s melted, refreezes,

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you know what I'm saying. It's like. And I always

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looked for hair all the time, and I found I

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found scat. Oh yeah, these big scat, tubular scare. That's

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that's the only thing that it can be from. Well,

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it's not a cows, not a deers, it's not a wolf,

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it's not a it's not it's not a fox, none

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of those. It's too big. I kept all of it

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too sure did Well how long how long was it?

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You know what? Jeremy? Uh? It was like I I

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I john uh look at it like it was like

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baby bigfoot poop because they weren't really super long, but

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it was big and it was circular, you know. And

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I my buddy's the one that brought it to my

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attention because we were checking checking stuff out. And they

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know where my cameras are at. That's why I never

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catch them where I go out there and I set

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my cameras up. I try to do it. I have

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seven cameras. I try to do it in a way,

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uh that I cover everything so one comes, you know

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what I'm saying. I kind of think about it, and

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I kid you not. I I've went path out there

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and there's like trees, little branches that have been broken

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laying up against the tree where my camera's at. Or

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it'll it'll uh it'll have a brand, will take a

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branch to shit it right on top of my camera.

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I'm just like, yesterday I took a picture because before

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I didn't. Then I'm like, well did the branch fall

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on it? And I really didn't think too much of

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it until I started when I moved my cameras farther

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all back, and I ain't kidding you, Like they'll put

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a like a tree, Jeremy, where they you you you

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look where the pit the tree at my camera is

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right there. It's kind of like saying, hey, look, they're

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won in each other. And if you go out on

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the south side of my property and see some of

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the trees, I have one Jeremy tree that is five

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to six feet off the ground. Okay, and you're talking

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probably I don't know. This is a big tree. Okay.

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Then you see all these vines that have been dragged

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up and tied around this thing. So I kept it

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off the ground. I could not believe it when I

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saw it. I'm like, man, that's you know, you gotta

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be really careful because when you see an animal that's

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capable of doing this, you rerad to be careful. You

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might you know what I'm saying. I don't want to.

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I don't want to. I don't want to harm one

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or don't want to kill one. But also too, I

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don't want to be I received I see the rocks

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they throw. I was like, I'm like, I don't there's

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no what are you gonna do. You ain't gonna do

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something like that because you take a shot at it.

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It's not just one. They're They're like a family plan. Man,

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there's more than one of these things. And I can

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show you over and over again out here where they

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have different trails, where they come up this way. I

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really do believe they watch me out here. And and

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my granddaughter is autistic. Now I don't know how true

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it is or not, but somebody had said something about

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they communicate well with with autistic children because they're they're

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like that. They think that a bigfoot could have some

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autism to them, because you know, to see them do this.

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My granddaughter will do that. Sometimes I won't too, but

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you know, and there's certain things. And that's why I

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always wonder if they're out here, because what she plays

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in the backyard and stuff. I just wonder if they're

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out here watching her. Not that I think they're going

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to come and get her, but you know what I mean,

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they're ceerious, they're very curious.

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Oh yeah, I mean that's something I've I've heard variants

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of that quite a bit in interviews actually, where if

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there's uh, you know, some kind of autistic individual on

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the property, that can definitely play into things big time.

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Yeah. And and I heard they had Jeremy and I

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went and did some research, you know, and I'm like, wow,

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that's that's pretty wild. And then like I said, I'm not,

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I don't. I don't. I don't fear them. Hey, it's

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not like, well I'm scared. But like I said, I

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I want to give them their room, let them do

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their thing. And I think too, they know they're they're

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protected here on this property. Nobody hunts my buddy. And

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that's it, one person.

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Can you share any details about the tracks that were found,

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like length of them, anything like that.

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Uh? Yeah, these these tracks were probably thirteen fourteen feet.

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I got pictures of them and you could see were

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where the dollar You could see if you can make

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all the toes, you can see where they walked and walked.

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You know, they don't they don't walk like us. They

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they don't bob like we do. And you could see

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how it's like one foot in front of the other.

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And I got the same thing out here the other day. Right,

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I'm just like, no way. And because of the stride,

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Jeremy is what brought my attention to it. At first,

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I thought it's got these are big strides. It's not

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from my dog. It's all side of the gate. It

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runs right past my garage. But anyway, goodness, Yeah, these

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these prints that I found out there in the mud

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was coming. That's why I'm saying it's perfect. The tracks

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were coming up there. You can they're coming from the

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south to the north, up that little drainage ditch. So yeah,

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if you don't go over there and actually look down

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in there, I never saw them because there's so much

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underbrush and grow you know, thicket there. Uh. And then

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there's places where it's all opened where you can get

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down in there. But most of the time, man, it's

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especially a summertime, you get picker bushes and all kinds

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of stuff, and it's a little harder to get through.

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I mean, deer don't even go through that crap. So

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that says something I I told Brian Sawyer that I

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think they ambushed their prey.

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We agree with that. Have you heard any accounts of

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people having sightings close to your property?

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I went and talked pretty much everybody right around me,

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including the neighbors with their property butts up against ours

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on the backside, and they never they've never seen anything,

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They've never heard nothing. I talked to one of the

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farmers that farms right next to our house, and he's

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never he's never seen anything or heard anything. You know.

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But on the other hand, these are people that have

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lived here o their lives and maybe they have seen something,

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but they don't want to. They don't want to. People

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look at them and go, oh man, what are you crazy?

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I don't. I am crazy. I'm a disabled veteran. That's

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why I tell everybody. Of course I'm crazy, but I don't.

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I don't think it's crazy. You know what, Jeremy, you

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can think what you want. This is a free country.

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People have for that freedom, okay, for you to have

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that freedom. So like I tell anybody, think what you want,

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but where's your research to show us that they don't exist?

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And you know what, people shut up and shut them

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right up. Because I've been out in the woods, man,

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I've had rocks thrown. Am me. I had something after

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that rock thrown incident. We have a like a fired

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pit out in the back forty there, and I went

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out there and I started a fire, okay, and I

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stand in there and something let a growl out like it.

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So if you're verberated, you all through the air. I

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didn't put the fire out the way out, but it's

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on our property. It wasn't rage or anything. So I'm

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like you know what. I went back up and I

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got on my back porch where it's light I can see,

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and that's the last time I've ever been a fire

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out there at night. I just like I said, call me,

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it's just seek. Call me what you will. But when

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you had things like that and then robstone at you

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on the growlind from the I'm good.

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I know it's something you got to make the right

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choice for sure. You had said really quickly, I just

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want to make sure see if there's something there. You

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mentioned that there could be perhaps a spiritual component to this.

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Yes, sir, all right, So here's what I found out. See,

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you know, I want to tell you something, but I

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want to tell you this first. I my son had

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brought this up to me. Jeremy, Hey, he goes, Dad,

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how do you know it's not spiritual. I'm like, you know,

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you could be onto something. And then he's sitting here

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in my house and we pulled out about Indians the

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tribes and stuff. And so my son is the one

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that got me set on that course because he's like, Dad,

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you should check it out. You never know, right, I'm like, right,

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I'm baptized. I believe in Jesus, okay, but them are

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my beliefs. I'm not going to force any beliefs on you.

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So anyways, I went and I went to the Saint

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Clair County Library in Port Here and they have what

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they call a Michigan Room. Okay, and within that room

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it's in the basement. They had to buzzed me in.

452
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.200
I'm like, shee case, go let me pick out how

453
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.880
the basement when I am done. So anyways, I go

454
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:58.279
down there and they have they have this book of

455
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.519
this area back in the day. I forget. Oh it's

456
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:09.200
like the early or late eighteen hundreds, okay, and there

457
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:14.319
are so many Indian burial grounds around here. I was

458
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.519
shot ad both fell out of the chair. I'm like,

459
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:21.759
are you serious, and she's like, yeah, there's like twelve

460
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.480
just in the central area. So I'm thinking about that.

461
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.559
And then I show her the pictures of the orbs

462
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.119
I have and she's like, yeah, you know that it's

463
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.359
an orb. It's not my camera. You know. You can

464
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.799
believe what you want, but I stay up on my stuff.

465
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.599
I get that from being a service. You know, when

466
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:45.400
you want something to work, you got to make sure

467
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.440
it works. So and I've call out more than just

468
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:54.519
one so to say, oh, it's my camera, and all

469
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.599
these have been a different areas of my property. Jeremy.

470
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:03.480
So I think this is just what I think. I

471
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.079
think that I didn't believe this before, by the way,

472
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.359
I thought people were crazy. But I guess you could

473
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.000
have things happen to yourself to maybe change change opinion

474
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:20.359
on it. So that being said, I think that it's

475
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:26.279
just it could be a spiritual thing, you know, Bigfoot.

476
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.039
It's like the keeper of the woods, the forest.

477
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:32.640
Uh uh.

478
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:38.000
You know, they know on the balance they need between

479
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:44.720
the harmony and the nature of things. So and just

480
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:49.440
like Indians, Indians were the same way. They're spiritual beings.

481
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:57.319
They're spiritual people and anywhere you go and talk to anybody, uh,

482
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:05.559
they're very very well known amongst the Indian tribes. Uh.

483
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.759
There's not Indian tribe one here. I didn't realize this,

484
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.440
but here they call him. They call him tree people.

485
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.160
So it makes sense right, and they live amongst the trees.

486
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.640
And that's the other thing I think that uh uh,

487
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.519
you know, you got to be open to things, Okay.

488
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.359
I wasn't like Dad set on this idea about the

489
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:36.720
spiritual stuff and that's because you know, you're a Christian.

490
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.160
You know, guy treated everything. And I'm not trying to

491
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.440
I'm not trying to debate them with anybody, but the

492
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:53.440
spiritual aspect of this, because the Indians were spiritual being Okay,

493
00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:00.880
it could very well be that that Bigfoot is here

494
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.599
to protect their land after they're gone, you know what

495
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:10.880
I mean. People that see Bigfoot, you know, think about

496
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.400
on the land that's never been stepped on by man

497
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.680
at all, and you think that something like that couldn't

498
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:23.279
still be here. I think could. And also, like I said,

499
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.400
I think it's spiritually you know, all there's that because

500
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.319
of the orbs and everything I've caught. That's what changed

501
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.720
my mind. I'm trying to find Bigfoot and maybe I

502
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:35.519
already did and don't realize it.

503
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:38.160
Sure, yeah, absolutely?

504
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:42.440
Uh what is I mean?

505
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.960
You're in an interesting situation because you live on the

506
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.480
land and now you realize there's something else on the land.

507
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.920
Do you have a game plan with what to do

508
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.759
regarding this or is it just kind of you know,

509
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:59.599
live and each side do their own thing.

510
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.279
Well, I have a lot of time on my hands,

511
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:13.440
and I've invested in cameras. Like I said, trail PAMs

512
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.960
I got. I got seven trail PAMs that come right

513
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:22.440
to my phone, and then I have three. I got

514
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.679
three camera traps, so you know I got the cameras. Ouh,

515
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:32.239
that's for sure. And I just if they know where

516
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.920
they're at. Man, they're not stupid. And you know I

517
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.920
always telling people this, I says, you know, if they

518
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.519
don't want to be seen, they're not gonna let you

519
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.400
see them. It's that simple. I don't know if they

520
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:53.599
feel threatened because I do have firearms and I do

521
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.400
practice here. And like I said, my buddy comes over

522
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.800
here and hunts on the property, but he uns with

523
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:05.320
an air done. He doesn't yeah, just quiet end, so

524
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.400
you know he uh but like he said, man, you

525
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:15.760
know he's the one that followed the scat. He's like,

526
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.320
look at this, and you know he's a hunter. He's

527
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:21.840
been out in the woods. He's all like, where did

528
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.079
this come from? And then I asked him, I said,

529
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:28.280
I don't know, couldn't be a coyote. He's like, Nope,

530
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.119
not a coyote. He goes, it's not a deer. He goes,

531
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.719
look at all bid this is? He goes, has it come? Yes,

532
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:41.800
that's bigger than any animal that we have in the

533
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:45.920
woods to to leave that type of scat. So that's

534
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.800
why I picked it up. Yeah, I took pictures of

535
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.280
it just so I got it so you can see

536
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:56.440
what I have. You know what what left it there?

537
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:04.239
I had know that we got rabbits, we got rab cons,

538
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:10.880
we got deer, we have we have squirrels, but you

539
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:15.199
know foxes. I've seen a fox out here, you know,

540
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.480
stuff like that. But it's not that what they didn't

541
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.000
leave that, you know what I'm saying. It's like, no,

542
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:26.599
it's common sense. Look, I'll go over into the woods

543
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.000
and go it must have been bigfoot. I like that.

544
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.360
But when I see things out of the ordinary like that,

545
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.960
it makes me stop and go, WHOA, what left this?

546
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.599
That's not any animal that I know oh in the

547
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.000
woods that would leave something like that.

548
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:50.519
So are you Are you doing anythings such as some

549
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:56.480
people who find themselves in this situation start a gifting

550
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.519
or leaving food out in a certain way. Is there

551
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:01.920
anything like that going on?

552
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.960
No? I don't. I don't do anything like that. And

553
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:16.719
the reason I don't, Okay, look, I don't really go

554
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.519
out and Matt mess around very much. Just because I

555
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.039
know something's out there. A lot of times I feel

556
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:32.719
like I'm being watched. Uh, I don't. I I just

557
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:39.079
don't want them to think that I want them, I

558
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.280
want to communicate with because I really don't. I just

559
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.320
want to give them their space, you know what I mean.

560
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.920
But in the sane, it's like it's like, you know,

561
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.880
the angel or the devil. The devil is telling me, yeah,

562
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.400
you you know you want to you want to reach

563
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.360
out to him, and the angels like, nah, you're good.

564
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.760
So the reason I see that is because a lot

565
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:07.840
of times I'm by myself, and so I just I

566
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.039
don't want to become a missing person. That's how I

567
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.920
feel about you know. I mean, I've had whatever. It

568
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.119
will just growl at me from the woodline, like he

569
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.320
was standing right next to me. So that's why he

570
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.679
gives me pause, you know what I mean. I'm like, uh,

571
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.119
what if what if it decides that this isn't enough.

572
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.119
Her that in the basketball sized rock being thrown in

573
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:39.360
your direction? That would really make me think about how

574
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:44.280
I would I would move on my own property for sure.

575
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.400
Oh yeah, absolutely. And you know I tell people this

576
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.559
all the time. I don't have to go nowhere, Jeremy,

577
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.920
I have enough right here in my backyard. And what

578
00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:01.159
I said the state gamely and is right. I mean,

579
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.079
you know what I'm saying. All you had to do

580
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.480
was walk out my back door. Ain't sheep walking? And

581
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:11.800
you're gonna be in the Black River from here. It's

582
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:14.559
it's probably less than half a mile from miles.

583
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.239
Gotcha. Did Brian say anything about why he thought there

584
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.119
were clans on either side of your property or was

585
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.360
it just based on stuff he had seen?

586
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.719
Maybe? Well, I think because he you know, Brian knows people.

587
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.599
Brian's a really good dude too. I really like Brian. He,

588
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.519
like I said, he came walk here to my property,

589
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.719
very professional. I only have good things to say about Brian.

590
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:45.079
I really like the guy, very very nice man, and

591
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.599
he's very knowledgeable. He's just not somebody you know and

592
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:54.119
it's like okay whatever, Uh, He's not like that. But

593
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:58.639
Brian had reached out. I'd sent him some pictures Jeremy,

594
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:03.519
and then that's when he reached out to me and said, hey, Stacey,

595
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:08.199
there's from what I from the information that he's received

596
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:11.000
from other people and the stuff that he does, he said,

597
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:13.840
there's a clan north to me and the plan south

598
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.800
to me. And he said they could be fighting for territory.

599
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.320
Why they're putting all the structures up in everything, which

600
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.760
makes sense kind of like you know, I'm marking your territory,

601
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:32.119
but they're doing with structures. I think that, yeah, doesn't

602
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:36.760
it Because of been I've been a big predator at

603
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.920
Alpha is gonna want to markets territory. It's no different

604
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.960
than any other you know, animal bears do that. Bears,

605
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.599
let you know, they mark their territory and and sot

606
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:54.519
other wild animals. So I think that, yeah, why wouldn't

607
00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:00.760
they And and uh, maybe maybe we we take structure

608
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.559
buildings for more than what they really are. It's just

609
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.960
marking your gerritory. Maybe maybe it's this way. The biggest

610
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:11.920
structure means the biggest and baddest bigfoot, you know what

611
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.039
I'm saying. I mean it could be right, I mean,

612
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.960
you know, so I love living out here, Like I said,

613
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.519
I don't have to leave and go anywhere right up

614
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.599
my back door. And you know, but like I said,

615
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.159
a lot of times, I don't like to be out

616
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.159
there by myself. I just don't.

617
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:35.440
Absolutely we were kind of talking about that ahead before

618
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.400
recording that it kind of sounds like you're trying to

619
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.679
find someone to help out.

620
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:47.800
Or yeah, I would like to have somebody get in

621
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.039
touch with me that that's invested some money, you know

622
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.840
what I'm saying, in their own equipment, and then we

623
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.280
can do another investigation. Now, that's really what I would like,

624
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.920
because they I've been all back every pretty much every

625
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:10.480
day except your last little cold spell we had, because

626
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:14.079
it's just not healthy for me. I'm fifty nine. I

627
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.199
want to live. I got little grand babies, so I

628
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.280
want to be around. But yeah, that's I'd like to

629
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:25.239
have another researcher. I know what's happened to me, okay,

630
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.159
and I know it's not a natural thing and isn't Hey,

631
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.920
this is a tree got knocked down over there, and

632
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.440
then the other bottom part of it has been broken

633
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.239
off and late okay, it goes like this. Who does that?

634
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.519
Not the wind? The wind don't do that. And that's

635
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.679
right all here behind my ouse.

636
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:46.920
Wow.

637
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.320
I don't stay up late enough because I have to

638
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.480
get my sleep because of medication they take. So I'm

639
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.840
usually in bed by six, sleep by seven. Okay, but

640
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:03.840
my doss did really weird lately. Wait Jeremy sugar. We

641
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.400
got a slighting glass door. But her you know, then

642
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.719
you go right out in her backyard, She'll I have

643
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.880
a pitball. She's never done this before. Man, She'll sit

644
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.440
with her nose against the window and just do a

645
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:24.199
roll a. Really you, I go look at the one

646
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:25.559
that was. I think I'll give be a year to

647
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:28.679
be this. And so she'll get up and I'll let

648
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:29.559
her outside.

649
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:29.920
Man.

650
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.159
She'll run to the edge of the fence and start

651
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.480
barking and barking and put her head in the air

652
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.800
and sniff the air. And then she rolled to the

653
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.239
other part of the pen and she's looking the whole time,

654
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:46.679
right all back in the woods. I don't know what

655
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.880
it could be. I just know it's that, dear, because

656
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:52.840
I had deer there the night come out here and

657
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.920
she barked a little bit. It's, you know, not a

658
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:59.480
big deal, but I had her hairs are raised on

659
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:03.000
her back, act and everything. Yeah, I don't know what

660
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.960
it is. She's never acted like this before. And it's

661
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.840
the last week, week and a half she's been doing us.

662
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:11.920
And that's right. After all this got belt over here

663
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.519
and one of the trees got moved. Man, one of

664
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:20.679
the trees. That think that was out straight coming out

665
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.199
of the out of the out of our woods to

666
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.719
the side of the house. Here was is going was

667
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.159
welt this, you know, straight out towards erry yard. I

668
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.840
go out there yesterday. This thing has been moved, It's

669
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.119
been picked up, and turn the opposite away and I'm like,

670
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.039
and so now I start looking for footprints. But the

671
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.960
problem is is that if you don't get out there

672
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.079
when they said down, it's kind of hard to find footprints,

673
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.239
you know what I mean, because the snow has been moved,

674
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.320
has been melted. I looked. I looked, and I looked,

675
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.280
and then I gotta be careful because now I'm leaving

676
00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:00.639
traps that's gonna you know what I mean. So let's

677
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.039
say catch twenty two. Yep.

678
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.840
So it sounds like you are open to having a

679
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.519
serious bigfoot researcher that has put the time and resources

680
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:21.039
together to come perhaps do a an overnight investigation with you. Now,

681
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.760
do you have like an email address that people could

682
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.960
contact you directly regarding that.

683
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:32.480
It's Athens Stacey H. G. K I N. S. S.

684
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.960
T A C Y sixty seven at gmail dot com.

685
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:39.519
Perfect.

686
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:44.519
I just want serious people you know I have. I

687
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.000
have two sets of night vision vigoles, I've got a

688
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:56.559
thermal and and I have I have everything we need

689
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pretty much. I for what I need to do. I

690
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.199
just needbody this got their own you know what I'm saying,

691
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and can contribute, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, knows

692
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what they're That's what.

693
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I want, Stacy. What what an interesting new piece of

694
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:18.079
the puzzle for this area because there's so much information

695
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:21.159
coming out, a lot of it because of Brian Sawyer

696
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.079
and the work that he's been doing and some other

697
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.880
individuals in Michigan as well. But you know, thank you

698
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.639
so much for coming on the show sharing what you're

699
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:32.239
experiencing and and definitely, you know, keep us in the loop.

700
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.480
If you start to experience other things as well on

701
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.079
your property, we would love to hear about it.

702
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:44.079
So oh yeah, absolutely, Jeremy, I'll make sure man to

703
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.280
keep you on a loop for sure. For sure. I

704
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.199
appreciate you having me on your show too, I really do.

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Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

706
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.639
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

707
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.519
would love to get out in those woods and experience

708
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.719
it for my self. Well, guess what This year you

709
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.559
can If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because

710
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it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July

711
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tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be

712
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.559
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

713
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be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

714
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:28.800
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

715
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:35.000
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

716
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.519
you just gotta be there. We'll leave at that. More

717
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.280
about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check

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this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

719
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.239
series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not

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only go to the festival, but you can also sign

721
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up for a track d in the wild forest outside

722
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.159
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to

723
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.840
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

724
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:13.920
for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for

725
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.119
the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching

726
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:19.679
for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

727
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.199
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild

728
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:27.519
experience to get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch

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Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code b

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SP like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a

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two day pass for the price of a one day pass.

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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

733
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that you guys can can get a little a little

734
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.079
help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope

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00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.280
to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year.

736
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.800
We can talk your encounter. Was able to talk to

737
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.320
so many people last year and the year before. It

738
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.280
is an incredible time. You're not going to want to

739
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.800
miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap

740
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.159
this episode, I want to say something directly to a

741
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.400
very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

742
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.159
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

743
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.119
no one can explain, or if you're a National Park

744
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.360
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

745
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.239
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

746
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.840
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

747
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.800
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

748
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.159
you're not allowed to talk about, and if you're a

749
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:45.360
firefighter paramedic or search and rescue responder who's heard screams

750
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:48.400
or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in

751
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.159
the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a

752
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:56.280
trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that

753
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.320
you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist,

754
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:03.280
a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who

755
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.679
has found evidence you're not allowed to report. If you're

756
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.880
a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat

757
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.239
and you saw something that shook your faith, or if

758
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.679
you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or anything with

759
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.159
clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I

760
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:26.199
want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous. You

761
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:29.480
can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

762
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.519
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

763
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.320
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

764
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.760
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

765
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.599
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

766
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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

767
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:51.239
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

768
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.199
is often hiding just beyond the tree Line. If you

769
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776
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777
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.000
please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

778
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.480
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

779
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784
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785
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.239
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

786
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.679
Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

787
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.960
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

788
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And see you in the woods.