Dec. 18, 2025

Bigfoot Follows Veterinarian Across Virginia—and Her Reality Is Shattered

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Dr. Erin Drinkwater, a Virginia veterinarian, shares decades of terrifying encounters that occurred from Virginia Beach to the Eastern Shore, Lynchburg, and finally a shocking full-body sighting along I-295 near Varina and Chester. Her professional training in animal behavior and physiology makes these reports some of the most credible and detailed ever recorded.


In this episode, she describes:


• A massive pale humanoid crossing the road near Lynchburg College in 1996
• A 500+ pound biped walking across the roof of her trailer on the Eastern Shore (2009)
• A violent, unexplained stomping incident inside her home in Virginia Beach (approx. 2018)
• A breathtaking sighting of an amber-colored Bigfoot standing on a ridge beside I-295 near Richmond (2022)
• Early unexplained events near First Landing State Park and Fort Story, including an aquamarine orb and a non-human attempt to open her family’s front door


Dr. Drinkwater’s firsthand knowledge of animal gait, mass, and movement adds scientific clarity to some of the most unnerving Bigfoot reports ever documented.


If you're interested in Bigfoot sightings, cryptid encounters, paranormal activity, or eyewitness testimonies from professionals, this episode is essential.

Resources: Contact Dr. Drinkwater here: drdrinkwater@yahoo.com

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,

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all right, Bickflett Society. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Erin today. Aaron is an individual. She reached out

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to me. She is actually a veterinarian, so be a

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very interesting discussion about what she's experienced over the years.

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So welcome to the show.

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Erin.

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How are you doing today?

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Great?

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Thank you, I'm really looking forward to hearing what you

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have to share. Is around the Williamsburg area of Virginia.

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Right.

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I love a Virginia bach and my actual sighting happened

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about three years ago on spring break. I was driving

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from Williamsburg to Richmond and go see a friend of

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mine with my daughter. And so I think what I

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wanted to do was just lead up to that story

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by giving a little bit of background about myself, just

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to help with credibility and the fact that I am

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a veterinarian and I have been obsessed with animals all

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my life, and I'm reading off of some of these notes.

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I literally studied every species that I have ever come across.

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I memorized the Audubon field guides when I was a kid,

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knowing the life cycles and the habits and the diets

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of most of the indigenous species of this area. So

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this area is Virginia Beach, and we have a lot

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of like wildfile that migrate through here. We don't have

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a lot of deer here, but I I remember there

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were pigs and deer in the woods when I was

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growing up. And where I grew up it backs up

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to a naval base called Fort Story. I don't know

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if it's naval or it's a base called Fort Story.

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So I was when I would play in the woods,

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I was literally on base.

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But there was no until.

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Nine to eleven, there weren't any real barriers, and I

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didn't know when I was on the base or not,

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but we were back in the woods. It's called First

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Landing State Park, and there have been some sightings back

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there as well that I saw on one of the websites.

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The first kind of weird incident that I had was

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back in the late nineteen seventies. My dad and mom

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and I had been out to dinner and we arrived

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back at our house, and our house backed up to

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the woods, which was First Landing, and when we got

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out of the car, there was a I don't know

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if it would be an orb but it was the

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shape of a fat jelly bean and it was like

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an aquamarine color.

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It was completely silent, and it was like the moon almost.

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It was right above the tree line, and it was

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about the size of a VW bug. And my dad

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and I got out of the car and we were

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just in awe with this. It was beautiful, but it

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didn't move and it didn't make any noise, and I

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think we stared at it.

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For twenty minutes and got bored and went inside.

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My mom got out of the car and ran in

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and yelled at us for a while, but she wouldn't

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have anything to do with it.

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And obviously we never knew what that was, but it

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was over those woods.

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And then about five years later, I heard something, someone

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or something trying to open our front door of the house.

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And the odd part about this was, I mean, when

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you live in a house, you can you know the

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noises and the sounds that a house makes or whatever.

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But the way that this door knob was turning was

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it was goinglick click, I mean faster than a human

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hand could make it move. And of course I ran

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and told my mom and we called the police, and

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the police came and there was nothing. We didn't see anything,

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but a lot of car accidents happened on shore Drive.

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People would come through the woods and try and get

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in the house sometimes, but this did not sound human

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whatever it was trying to get into the house. Fast forward,

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I just wanted to talk about my experience of becoming

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a veterinarian. One of our requirements in school was to

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be able to look at a animal, and this is

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large animal medicine, like cows and horses. Be able to

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look at these animals and try to guess how much

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they wait by looking at their size. Okay, so this

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ties into my experience later this was really important because

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we had a scale that we tried to get really

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flaty race horses onto, and they just would not get

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on the scale, maybe like they were flipping out and

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they became dangerous, and so we would have to guess,

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and we were really close. We got to the point

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where we could look at an animal and because we

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use a standard one thousand pound horse and go from there.

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Is it bigger than that? Is it smaller than that?

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Is a pony? Is it a cold blood animal?

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So I have a really good feel as to how

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much something weighs, even by this sound it makes when

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it walks. So I get through VET school and I

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moved to back to Virginia. But before I get into

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the thing that I heard on the Eastern Shore in Lynchburg,

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Virginia around nineteen ninety six, I was at Lynchburg College

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and it was about two am in the morning and

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my friend and I were driving back. I was in

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the passenger seat and she was driving, and we were

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going through the foothills of Virginia and there were woods

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on either side, and the car comes to a complete stop.

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I look at my friend. Her mouth is open, and

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from left this thing across the street, and it looked like.

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An eight and a half foot tall humanoid thing.

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I guess it looked like Gallum from Lord of the Rings,

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the one that is like my precious that has like

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the stringy hair. But if he stood up, he would

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probably have been about eight and a half feet tall.

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Okay, this thing was gaunt.

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It had almost like balding spots.

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It was white grayish color. It was.

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It moved on all fours from left to right across

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the street, and it had a gate kind of like

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a camel where the right front and right behind limb

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moved with each other like this, so even the gate

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looked weird, like it was not like a dog or

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a human on off wards that would have the opposite.

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It's called ipsilateral and contralateral gate. But camels have the

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same gate that this thing had, and some primates also

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have this gate that walk on for or that are quadrupedal.

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The face was more human looking. It didn't have a

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snout like a bear would. Bear was all I.

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Could think of.

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I'm like, that's got to be a sick, deformed bear.

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That's all I've heard. People like the things that they're

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going through in their head. It's so hard to see

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something like this so hard because it changes you. It

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just throws your whole reality off. I had a conversation

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with this friend. Her name is Aaron as well, and

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she remembers that she doesn't like talking about it scared

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her to death. I was more interested. But it had

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the back legs were like a human. They were long,

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the knees were bent, and he walked on or he

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I think, walked on the flats of its hands. And

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when it walked it almost looked like it would curve

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its foot and then put it down again, and like

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a baseball met I guess is how like long fingers.

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But another thing that I thought was really odd was

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that I think if a human was on all wars,

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our butts would be really up in the air. We

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would our backs would be like this thing's back was

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straight across. You could see all the spinest processes of

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its spine. You could see all of its ribs. Its

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abdomen was really tucked up. This thing looked like it

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was starving and sick or something. Hands So yeah, and

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I still never even thought ever of anything like a bigfoot.

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It didn't have a tail, So.

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This is extremely interesting. Do you remember what color it was.

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It was white, It was like a gray white, and

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the hairs on it was silvery, and the hairs were

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really like it didn't have thick hair at all. It

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was really I was like, I don't know a bear

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with mange. I'm going to put it at that, but

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it wasn't. It didn't look anything like a bear. That

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was the closest I could come to the size of it.

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The size was probably the only thing that would have

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looked like a bear.

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Otherwise it looked like a human a size of a bear.

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Okay, eight and a half foot tall. And how much

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would you estimate that it weighed? You said it was

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pretty skinny.

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Yeah, it was any probably like three point fifty.

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Gotcha? How did affect you?

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My PTSD came later from the one that I saw

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that looked more like Patty. This didn't look like Patty.

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So again, the bigfoot thing was way off the radar.

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Okay, how far away from the car was it when

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you guys saw it cross?

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About thirty to fifty feet away, But we had full

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lights on it.

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We had the brights on in the car.

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Okay, did it What happened to its eyes when the

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headlights were on it.

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It looked at us. Okay, it looked at us, and

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it I know this happened, but I hate talking about it.

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It kind of smiled at us like like you know,

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like I don't know, it was awful looking, just absolutely awful.

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So I know that you will definitely get what I'm

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about to say. Sometimes when animals make a smile or

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what looks like a smile, it'll mean something completely different

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than when we will smile as humans. Did you get

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any feeling as to it was an actual smile or

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maybe something else.

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I think it was more like like I'm not supposed

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to be here kind of thing, Like it was I

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we weren't supposed to be there, and it was not

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supposed to be there. It was just one of these

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chants encounters where it was more like I got kind

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of caught, you know, they see me sort of thing.

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I don't feel like it was like happy smiling at us.

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It was either that like you know, they'll show animals

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will show their teeth if there is a defense mechanism,

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and I think that was more of where we were

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with him it where it was just like caught off guard,

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but it showed its teeth and that's really hard.

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I think my.

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Brain is even just not wanting to bring that part

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up because that was the part that really maybe this.

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Did constant best.

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I don't know, but yeah, that's a really hard part

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for me to describe because she didn't want to talk

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about that part, and I struggle with it because it

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looked human but it wasn't. There's no way it was

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freezing cold. There was it was barefoot naked. I didn't

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see any like sex organs on it, but its whole

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abdom was so tucked up.

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I don't know.

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If I don't know, Okay, I can tell this is

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definitely hard for you to talk about. I appreciate you

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talking about it.

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Oh, it gets work.

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What do you feel like it was?

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I'm sure you've had years to think about it, and

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have you been able to categorize it into something or.

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Yeah, I saw a model of one that somebody had created,

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so I know somebody else has seen one, And if

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I had to categorize it, it would.

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Be more like a skinwalker type.

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Of If I had them all in a lineup, it

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would definitely be like a what is the one with

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the deer worns the wind to go win go?

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Yeah?

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Something wind to Go Skinwalker cross kind of thing. It's

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more gaune, it's more ghostly, but it was real and

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she saw it too. When like, and she's an attorney.

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That's another reason I like to talk about I love

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her to death. But she was like, Aaron, I can.

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She forgot until I brought it up again. She was like,

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and it was like, we went to bed that night

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and woke up the next day and forgot.

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And then I was like, remember that thing we saw.

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But we had been out, We've been partying and stuff,

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so I don't know if it was like something that

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we just thought, Oh, maybe it was. I might have

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said that that looked like a bear with mange or something,

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and that's what she took that and ran with it.

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You didn't really, you know, do anything else other than that.

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But you know, now that I've been really kind.

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Of knee deep in this stuff, you know, there's definitely

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a chance that I'm not the only person that have

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seen something that looked like a big Goalum, yeah, you're

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definitely not.

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I listening to your account, it reminds me of the

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account of a friend. Her name is miss Leis Sterling

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from down in miss Mississippi. And she had a sighting

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very similar to you and what she I've interviewed her

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on the show.

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It was a few years ago.

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She came to the realization that what she saw was

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something called like a pale crawler or a rake.

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Which rake is. Yeah, it really makes sense.

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Yeah, and it sounds like you're aware of what that

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all entails too, And.

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You've seen I think the rake is darker though from

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what I've heard, I think I would think of I

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always think of the ring where it has like the

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long black hair, it has more than the lee legs.

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Okay, did it have a claws on its hands at

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all that you saw?

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Yeah, I think the nails were a little bit longer

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than a human's, but I wouldn't call them claws. They

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looked more like elongated fingernails. And everything about him was spindlief,

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just longer than everything It wasn't. It didn't seem like

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it was a human three times the size. It was

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more like a human, but three times as long, like

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longer fingers, like my fingers would have been like out

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like that. You know what I'm saying. Everything was longer

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on this thing. It's not like it was bigger, it

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was longer.

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Gotcha, So nineteen ninety six, so you're in your college

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years and then and then I got to that school.

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I got into VET School, so that was down in

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the Caribbean. Nothing happened in the Caribbean school. Yeah, So

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I get back to the States and I decide that

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I don't because I was in a third world country

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down there, and I really had a fabulous experience at

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Ross University.

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So I decided that I really wanted.

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To move to this place that was close to Virginia Beach,

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where I grew up, but it was across the Chesapeake Bay.

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So it's north of Virginia Beach, across this mile long

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bridge called the chest Peake Bay Bridge Tunnel, and over

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there it's like you go back in time. It's thirty

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years back in time. And I moved on to a

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horse traders farm into a double wide trailer.

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And.

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I was way out in the woods and I had

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all sorts of animals out there. It was great, and

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I worked on the large animal truck and did small

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animals in the hospital. I was thirty minutes from the

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main drag, which is I thirteen, so everything shut down.

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They were there very rural.

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And I would make big bonfires out there at night.

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And the owner of the farm lived about a mile away,

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so you could see his house across the cornfields, but

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he was like a mile away my trailers back in

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the woods.

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I was not scared thing. And it was about ten

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o'clock at night, and I was in.

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Bed and I was starting to fall asleep, and it's

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dark out there. I'm way out in the woods, right,

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I mean, if something happened to me, this was dumb.

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If something happened to me, there was We didn't really

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even have like cell phone out there. So I'm falling asleep.

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And if you're picturing a trailer, okay, if this is

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the front of the trailer, you come into the trailer

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and it goes side to side. Okay, I'm on this

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side and the other bedroom was on this side, and

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I'm falling asleep, and all of a sudden, it sounds

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like something bipedal that's about five hundred pounds lands on

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the opposite.

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Side of the trailer, and the whole thing shakes boom,

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and it shakes me awake.

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Right, I've got goats outside, dogs, nothing is everything's motionless outside, chickens, everything,

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And I'm frozen in fear. Okay, And it starts to

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walk towards my bedroom on the ceiling, and as it walks,

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it's in the middle of the trailer where the top

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comes up. As it walks, its stride is about four

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feet in length. And every time it lands afoot, this

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trailer goes to the side and then it lands the

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other foot.

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And it took one, two, three, four, five, six seven.

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It took ten steps and now it's standing over.

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The top of me, and I pass out. I don't

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know if I pass out in fear.

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I don't know. If it did something to me where.

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It or circuted my brain, I don't know.

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And I woke up the.

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Next day and my rooster, his name was Brad. He

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only had one eye, was like looking at my window

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and he's like, and I wake up, and I'm still

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in the same position that I was in, like on

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my back, frozen in fear that I was when I

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heard it land and start walking across the roof. So

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still didn't think bigfoot, but I started asking around, what's bipedal?

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Five hundred pounds? What I started asking myself what was that?

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I go outside to see.

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If the goat got sucked I don't know. Is it

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tuper cabre?

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Like I don't know, I don't know, and people are like,

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maybe it was an owl. I can't even think of

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the largest bird out there, which is a great blue heron.

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They're not flying around night, first of all, and even

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if one of those landed, it would be like a

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clickety clack kind of thing because they have or they

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even have fat flat feet that they walk around the marsh.

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And they're not going to sound like a man five

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times in size.

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They're just not. And so still didn't think anything of it.

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But I realized how.

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Dangerous it was to be out there by myself, and

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so I moved back here. And now I'm back in

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Virginia Beach and my house is backing up to the

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woods where I grew up. And the same thing happened

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over here. But this time this is the part that

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I don't, that I can't, This is where I'm really struggling.

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This time, it was in the house. I was laying I'm.

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Just gonna should I show you with the camera. There's

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a couch right there. I was laying on the couch.

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It's ten o'clock at night. There's stairs that go up

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behind like the camera that you're on behind you, they

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go behind you. And this night I was falling asleep.

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I was on the couch and.

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At the top of the stairs, something starts stomping, okay,

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and it was shaking the house, and it was stomping

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in series of three, and it did it twelve times.

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And I had wooden Venetian blinds upstairs on three windows,

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and one of these blinds were slamming into the frame

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with the stomps. Okay, So the stomps were like one

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two three, one two three and so loud. And my

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daughter's asleep underneath the stairs, Okay, she didn't hear any

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of this. I'm absolutely terrified. I'm like, there's a man

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or something upstairs. But the blinds. In order to slam

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the blinds that hard and that fast against the window pane,

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you would have had to pull the blinds up over

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your head and with all your might slam them into

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the and that would take time, right, But they were

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slamming with this force that was so loud and the

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and so it went one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, ten, eleven, twelve,

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and then it went silent, and I start crying, and

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because as a mother. If I hear this thing start

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to descend the stairs, I've got to face it because

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I'm gonna do I'm gonna die. I'm gonna do everything

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that I possibly can to keep it from hurting my daughter.

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Okay, So again I'm frozen on the.

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Couch and I'm waiting for this thing to start coming

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down the stairs.

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And I was like, what do I have? I had

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a taser.

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I don't know the things I just I don't even

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know if these things can be killed like with a book.

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I don't know.

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So anyway, I'm laying there in fear and I'm on

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mother bear mood.

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I'm like, the.

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Minute i hear a creek on that stair, I'm coming up.

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I didn't want to see it. I didn't want to

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I didn't want to have that picture of whatever it

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is in my head, but I knew it was big,

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and whatever it.

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Was lands on the roof.

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So it was in the house and now it's on

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the roof, okay, And so I'm just going to show

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you what my roof looks like.

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Okay, so.

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Excuse a mess. This is my kitchen, okay. And so

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my roof is.

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Vaulted, right, it goes all the way up there to

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the ceiling, and then this is the couch that I

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was laying on, and my head was.

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Underneath the surfboard right there.

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Okay, so it lands on the roof above the.

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Door right there.

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Boom, another one right, and let me set this back up.

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And it takes seven steps. So it's coming up the

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roof again just right above where I was laying and stops.

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So it took seven steps about four a stride of

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about four feet and stops above me and I pass

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out again.

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Oh again, yeah wow.

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So now from the Eastern Shore to this, Now I'm like,

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I gotta figure out what this is.

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And the anxiety of it coming back.

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There was a ten year span between the time I

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left the Eastern Shore and moved back here. But when

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I first moved back here, rocks would hit this roof.

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All the time.

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And my neighbor came out and was like, this happened

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after the thing was on the roof.

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He goes, what happened to your gutter?

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And on that side of the house, the gutter was

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pulled out about this far from the side of the house,

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and they there were one inch thick, eight inch long

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threaded bolts that bolted the gutter into the side of

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the house. And then the AC guy was like, something's

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been on your roof because the entire top of my

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AC is it looks like something jumped down off of

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the roof onto the AC unit.

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Still there.

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Okay, you have actual evidence that something was up there.

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Yeah, you can see. Oh I have.

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I have a video of my cat on the roof.

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He never gets up there, and he's like, look, it's

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right there. I couldn't see it.

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And as I'm standing there looking and there's no one around.

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This is like midnight, no one around, a rock comes

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hurling at the house. It's terrifying, and I'm like, all right, I'm.

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Just gonna go back inside because I don't know, like

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what throws rocks and walks on two feet and it's

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gotta be big, but.

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It's got to be.

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There is nothing else that I can come up with

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on this planet.

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And then I see one. So two years ago, fast

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forward spring break with.

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My daughter, right and we go to Bush Gardens, which

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is in Williamsburg.

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It's so much fun. We love the roller coasters.

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And then the next stop was to go stay at

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my best friend's house in Richmond. So she's in mid

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Lothian actually, so that's on kind of the south side

473
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.319
of Richmond. So we take sixty four west to two

474
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.720
ninety five south and we're going south around Richmond, and

475
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.160
we're in the groove and my daughter's riding shotgun and

476
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:13.000
she's looking at the iPad and all of a sudden

477
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.839
she asked me a question, and I look over at

478
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.279
her and I look up into the woods and it's

479
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.559
probably like five thirty six o'clock at night, and I

480
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:28.400
see it and it's the back of one.

481
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.880
And it's huge. It's huge, and it was amber colored.

482
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:33.799
It was beautiful.

483
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:44.680
It was absolutely astonishingly amazing to see, and probably eight

484
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.880
two It looked male from behind. I only saw it

485
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:57.359
from behind, and it was standing. So if so, I'm driving,

486
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.039
I'm going seventy miles an hour and it's up on

487
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:05.200
the ridge of so there's a ditch and then there's

488
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.759
a ridge and a bunch of trees along the ridge.

489
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.480
And I saw it from behind like this.

490
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.880
And it's bent backwards like it's looking at something in

491
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:15.720
the trees.

492
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.200
It looked like it had hair like haul cogin right short.

493
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:25.519
Its shoulders were like I would have to stand on

494
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.640
my tippytoes to like feel its shoulders. It was massive

495
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:35.200
and it was leaning back like this, and then it

496
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:39.079
looked down and took a step to its left. And

497
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:44.039
when I saw its hands swing underneath it's it's knee.

498
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.720
I knew for sure that I was looking at one.

499
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.640
And when it stepped, it had like an air.

500
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:50.440
It looked like that.

501
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.000
We have cedar trees here, so if you know what

502
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.359
cedar color is, that's what it's fur looked like. So

503
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:01.279
it had hair like hal cogain like length down to

504
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:01.960
its shoulders.

505
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.000
Its shoulders went up to its head. On the side.

506
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.799
It had a conical shape to the top. It was

507
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.000
bending like at the waist. I guess they don't really

508
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.960
have the ability to move their head very well up

509
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:23.119
and down, so they move at their waist and it's

510
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:28.480
about mid calf. It had a lot more hair, almost

511
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:30.400
like a Clydesdale would have.

512
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.759
Like the trees. It looked like the trees. It looked

513
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:33.720
like the cypress trees.

514
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.960
They all look like that, and they have the cypress

515
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:41.640
knees coming up and the hair on my arms and

516
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.559
my legs. We were wearing shorts at the time. Hurt

517
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.440
so bad. It was my hair on. My arms were

518
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:54.000
so stuck out. I went completely white. And my daughter

519
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:57.519
clicked me out of it. She goes, Mama, what's wrong, mom,

520
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.920
what's wrong with you? And I didn't want to tell her.

521
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:05.079
I just I didn't know what to say. I wasn't shocked.

522
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.599
It wasn't a horrible experience like.

523
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:12.000
Some of these people have. I cannot imagine it being

524
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.359
focused on me. It didn't see us, or it knew

525
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.319
that we were there, but it didn't care. I don't

526
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:18.960
know either one.

527
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.759
It was hard to see, but I'm very I used

528
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.759
to love to find the moths and stuff that were

529
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.440
camouflaged in the trees and stuff, and I'm good at it.

530
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.440
We used to have bees and I could find that

531
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:35.160
the queen bee pretty easily. So is looking, always looking,

532
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:36.960
I point out stuff all the time.

533
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.440
But I saw it, and I tried. I was like, hey,

534
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.319
we got to turn around. I think I saw something

535
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:44.920
in the wood. She was like, and then she starts

536
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.920
filming me. She was like, would you see a bigfoot?

537
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.359
And he actually has a video of me, and I

538
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:55.240
look at myself and I can see how white I

539
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.480
am and how much in shock I am, and how

540
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.880
I didn't want to tell her what I saw, and

541
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.000
we It was in Verona. It was in The scary

542
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.480
part is that there were not too far away in

543
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.720
the distant background, there were people's houses and stuff, like,

544
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.319
I'm sure they've got kids playing around in the woods

545
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.440
along the side of the ninety five. They're here, They're

546
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:24.200
there at least how I understand it. Yeah, it was ripped.

547
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:26.960
It looked like the back of a like a football player,

548
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.440
which okay, yeah, wow.

549
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.599
That is really intense. I want to make sure that

550
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.000
I have all the info. So what was the year

551
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:36.720
on this again?

552
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.039
Twenty two, twenty twenty two, and this is you said?

553
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:46.200
Is on two ninety five? Were you near a certain.

554
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.880
Town Verona and Chester?

555
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:50.960
Oh?

556
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.240
Okay, is that is v A v R I N A.

557
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.599
That got it?

558
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.839
Yeah, it goes Zion and then Verona and Chester.

559
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:08.200
So we had done. I turned into Verona, but there's

560
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.880
no I don't know what they're called figure eight or

561
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.400
whatever on the highway. And so I was so frustrated

562
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.119
because I wanted to get back on, get off, get

563
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.359
back on again, and pass that because to me, I

564
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.200
was like, what if somebody put like a cardboard cutout

565
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:25.960
and I'm like, Aaron, you know what you saw?

566
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:29.640
That was not a cardboard cutout at all. I saw

567
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:33.480
the mass of it. It was moving. It looked up twice.

568
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.599
It was almost I almost got the feeling it was

569
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.720
trying to get two little ones down from the trees because.

570
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.480
They were too curly to the road or something. That's

571
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.200
that's the feeling I got from it.

572
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:49.319
Okay, And was this before you go over the James River? Yes, okay,

573
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.799
probably pretty far before that. I would guess pretty far.

574
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.319
We were probably about half an hour out because I

575
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.319
just called my friend. I was like, we're about a

576
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.359
half an hour out and then I see it and

577
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.039
she was like, dude, what took you so long? Did

578
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.839
you get lost or whatever? And I couldn't talk. I

579
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.039
just sat down in her living room. She was like,

580
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.960
what's wrong with your mom? And finally I just blew

581
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.320
up and told everybody, and everyone thinks that I was joking, but.

582
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.360
They're like, oh no, not this again.

583
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.000
Because this is why I said in the beginning, I

584
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.440
wish I had seen it first and then had these experiences,

585
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.440
because after the first one, the white one, I was like,

586
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.480
it never thought bigfoot. It took the second time and

587
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.280
the fact that it was in the house, and that

588
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.760
still to this day is one of the accounts that

589
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.199
I have not heard from other people.

590
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:45.599
That's the one that bothers.

591
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.480
Me, the one one that was on top of your house,

592
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.679
but it was in the house first, right, Yeah.

593
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.920
Which is weird because it's okay, can it just go

594
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.239
directly through walls, right directly through the roof?

595
00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.320
That's weird, right.

596
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.159
Another one that's like slamming, where there are two of

597
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.360
them them out there. They were like slamming, one of

598
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.840
them slamming the way and I don't have detachable screens

599
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.360
up there, like you actually have to punch them out.

600
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:16.719
I looked for even tiny little holes because some of these.

601
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:20.440
Accounts have the orbs when they're associated with sightings, and

602
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:25.719
so are they able to go into a different energy

603
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.440
form like a glowing orb?

604
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.480
Are they interdimensional?

605
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:35.599
There's so many questions at this point, and it's such

606
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:36.559
a rabbit hole.

607
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.039
Such a rabbit hole it is.

608
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.000
What year was it that you had the roof experience?

609
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:50.840
Two thousand eighteen, I think, okay, it was two days

610
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.400
before Valentine's Day. That would have been on a Valentine's Day,

611
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.039
was on a Tuesday, So this was on a Sunday night.

612
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.360
I've got it all written down somewhere.

613
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.320
How far back was the experience when you're in the

614
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:07.400
trailer by yourself?

615
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.199
That was two thousand and nine?

616
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:17.320
Okay, gotcha any of these places, I guess you know

617
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.519
the house with the when they were on the roof,

618
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.559
and then the trailer were there like weird things being

619
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.920
left around the property? Ever, did you ever run into any.

620
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:26.280
Stuff like that?

621
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:31.159
So after the one in two thousand in the trailer,

622
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.840
I did have chickens out there, and unfortunately my father

623
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.000
passed away, so I had to come home to Virginia.

624
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:41.639
Beach for two weeks. So it was a suicide. It

625
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:42.440
was really weird.

626
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:43.800
I'm sorry to hear that.

627
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:45.119
It's okay.

628
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.119
When I got back to my trailer, something had killed

629
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.320
all of my chickens and it looked like a pillow

630
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.639
fight had happened on the property. But I found all

631
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:03.159
of their bodies, and I remember calling the wildlife rehaber

632
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:08.199
and I'm like, what kind of animal coyote or whatever

633
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:13.480
comes and kills everything but doesn't eat it?

634
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.800
Yeah, exactly why would it do that?

635
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.559
And then you hear these people they'll leave their property

636
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.719
and the thing gets angry because I don't know they're

637
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.840
gifting it or whatever is happening where they get mad

638
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.320
and they'll destroy stuff.

639
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:30.440
But yeah, whatever it was.

640
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.679
Her answer to me was that it was probably raccoons

641
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.119
because they're like sight hounds and they like to play

642
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.880
and chase. But still, you would think in the middle

643
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.840
of February in Virginia that it would have eaten them.

644
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.840
The food isn't everywhere. You would think at least they

645
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.480
would have eaten them, all four of them. I found

646
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:53.280
all four of them.

647
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:58.400
Were they killed in a weird way or they weren't

648
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.559
missing heads or it looked like they were wrung out

649
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:01.320
or anything like that.

650
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:08.559
Okay, No, it just looks like they whatever, tore all

651
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.159
their feathers off and it was just like basically their

652
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:12.960
bodies were left.

653
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.039
I don't remember if they had heads or not. I

654
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.440
think I would have remembered if the heads, if they

655
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:23.599
were decapitated, because that's just weird. Yeah, they were just dead.

656
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.360
I don't even I can't even thinking back. I don't

657
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.920
even know what killed them, how they died, Just thinking

658
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.960
about finding their bodies like they looked intact. It wasn't

659
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:39.079
like something took their heads off or smashed them or anything.

660
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.599
They just looked like they're pulled all their feathers out

661
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.199
all over the property. It looked like it snowed on

662
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.519
my property when I got back.

663
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:47.039
It was weird.

664
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:54.159
So what you saw when you were driving down to

665
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:59.079
ninety five and you had that sighting, are you able

666
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:04.000
to make a comparison to any other animal that you

667
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:11.639
know of, like in size? Okay, so's a really big human, really.

668
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.360
Big hairy human.

669
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.559
Okay, gotcha.

670
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.159
And he had like a I mean just ripped this thing.

671
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.159
But you could see his deltoid's like you could see

672
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.440
his biceps, his glutes were huge, like.

673
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.639
Hit the legs, like the strength of this thing. They

674
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:32.159
say that.

675
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.440
Another thing that I learned in school was that chimpanzees

676
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.239
are so much stronger than us because their limbs are longer.

677
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.400
They have that torque that we just don't have.

678
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.039
And that's what makes them so much stronger is the

679
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:51.280
length of It's like a wrench. Two sizes of a wrench.

680
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.559
With a long one, you're gonna get so much more

681
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.079
torque on the bolt than you would on a shorter wind.

682
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.920
And yeah, I have some about some of this though.

683
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.440
A lot of people say that the woods go silent,

684
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:08.559
and I've thought about that a lot. When insects go silent,

685
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.760
what would make that happen? And the only thing that

686
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:14.920
I could come up with is a vibration. I think

687
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.039
that these things are vibrating in a certain way. I

688
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:22.239
think sound plays, and it's a sound that we can't hear.

689
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:27.679
So an interesting like science like project would be to

690
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:32.320
broadcast different low frequency sounds onto a field of crickets,

691
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.880
for example, in the summer, to see if it stops them.

692
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:41.719
So I think this thing is at a different frequency.

693
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.840
I could tell that my cat could was staring.

694
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.719
At something when he was on the roof that night,

695
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.519
and because I'm around cats, I love cats. I really

696
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.360
would love to just go into feline practice. But he

697
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.719
was looking at me and looking back at it and

698
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.079
looking at me like you can't see that. Like he

699
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.239
kept looking back and forth. His body posture, tail was

700
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.920
puffed and around, and he's looking at me like this

701
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:12.840
and looking at it like a.

702
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.840
Person would be like you can't see that, are you blind?

703
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:19.400
And it's like in the corner of the back of

704
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.360
the house, and then the rock hits the house. I

705
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:29.079
know the cat clearly, could see it, clearly could see

706
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:33.880
it with the cloaking. I've seen a video of an octopus,

707
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.559
and I would love to see their DNA be matched

708
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.280
with an octopus or matched against an octopus, because some

709
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.480
of these encounters where these things are crawling on off

710
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.280
wards and they're going up backwards on like rock faces

711
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:54.320
and stuff. It's just weird that the octopus there was

712
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.039
they have something like nine brains. And there are people

713
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.960
say that there were stories about people killing these big

714
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.519
foot back in the day and they had two hearts.

715
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:10.920
There's Claire's account from Sasquatch Chronicles that said that they

716
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.239
were going down to the ocean and they were putting

717
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.719
stuff on them like seaweed and stuff. There's a lot

718
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.280
of aquatic species that appear almost invisible.

719
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.079
I've had invisible fish.

720
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.639
In my tank where you can literally see through these organisms.

721
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.119
They still have cells like we do, but for some reason,

722
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.639
you can see through them. You can see all their

723
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.239
little parts. The octopus, and there was a video of

724
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.800
one where they had a checkerboard floor to this tank

725
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.519
and they throw this octopus in and all of a sudden,

726
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:45.079
you can't see them. He's checkerboard, so it's in nature.

727
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.360
Bioluminescence in nature, you know these eyshine and stuff.

728
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:52.400
Yes, we have that already.

729
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.880
We've seen it on the planet, especially the deep sea animals.

730
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.280
They all have this by all make light.

731
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.159
The thing you said about frequencies is super interesting, and

732
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.079
I think it's more true than you might realize. A

733
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.000
lot of researchers right now, I think that there's a

734
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.880
huge possibility that Bigfoot are able to use something called infrasound,

735
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.079
which I know that you're probably aware as well that

736
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:24.320
it's used in other animals yep, tigers, irons exactly.

737
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.079
I don't know if that's what happens to me when

738
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:34.000
I'm confronted with this. I ended up going up to

739
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:38.199
the woods and yelled at it. My last thought when

740
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.119
it was the roof and here was you gotta be

741
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:45.000
kidding me? Was it? I just got to I get

742
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.800
to the point where I'm like, Okay, I can't kill you.

743
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.880
You can obviously hurt me. You can hurt my brain

744
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.079
by terrifying me.

745
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:55.239
What do you want?

746
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:59.440
So you went out and confronted it really went.

747
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.480
It was later, but I just said, you're scaring me.

748
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:03.760
I have a little girl.

749
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.760
I'm not going to hurt you, but stop throwing rocks

750
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.239
at the house and just get take a log off

751
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:12.039
that fire.

752
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:14.280
I don't know if you came from the Eastern Shore.

753
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.639
I don't know if you know me from growing up.

754
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.400
And that's why immediately when I moved into this house,

755
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.320
the rocks started hitting the house. They would hit the

756
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.559
roof and roll down, hit the roof and roll down,

757
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:32.079
every fifteen minutes. And this is before I even thought Bigfoot.

758
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.679
What really got me was the fact that it was

759
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.880
on one of the podcasts. It just said if there's one,

760
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:46.239
it has to have parents, and I was like, oh,

761
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.480
there's more than one, because I'm thinking, this thing is

762
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.239
white and it's up in the Pacific Northwest, and it's

763
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.119
a story that the Native Americans used to tell, and

764
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.599
that's it. That's it.

765
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.239
And when I I started really thinking about it, I'm like,

766
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.119
they're everywhere. They're everywhere.

767
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:13.519
There's even in Virginia, Like I've gotten some really interesting reports.

768
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:19.079
I've sighting over by Gloucester. Matthews. There was a sighting

769
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.760
over there in the twenty tens. And then there was

770
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.760
a gentleman I was talking to once and he actually

771
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:32.039
was driving down ninety five near Petersburg in twenty nineteen,

772
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.159
and he had seen what looked like a large covered

773
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.800
body with shaggy brown hair and protruding limbs under a

774
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.480
tarp that was being guarded by multiple state vehicles on

775
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.760
the side of the road. That's wild and that was

776
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.840
just Petersburg ninety five in twenty nineteen.

777
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.119
I just read by I had to go down to

778
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.480
North Carolina to pick up my daughter and there's like

779
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:03.239
a this is in Chesapeake, Virginia. I had to take

780
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.880
a right off of the highway and there.

781
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.639
Was a two This is so weird. There was a

782
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.760
two story like.

783
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.239
Cage in the middle of the roundabout you know how

784
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:18.440
you get off the interstate. And it was like a

785
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:23.400
two story cage with chickens in it and a bunch

786
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.840
of like military looking guys with bloodhounds walking all around

787
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.920
the thing. Okay, I get that somebody could have died

788
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:33.760
on the side of the highway and that's what the

789
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.719
bloodhounds are for, But what are the chickens doing in

790
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.239
a two story cage?

791
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:40.960
Yeah, that's weird, right why.

792
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:44.719
I'm like, they're trying to catch an animal out here.

793
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.159
That's the only reason why they would bring these.

794
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.400
My goodness, that's some wild stuff. I want to also

795
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.320
do a word of caution for some listeners that are

796
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.880
thinking about the whole frequency thing. There are people that

797
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.960
I've talked to before that I've actually gotten to the

798
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.199
point where they are able to send out the frequency

799
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.440
called infra sound, and I would recommend not to do that.

800
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:15.239
It's led to.

801
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.199
Them being chased out of the woods in certain areas

802
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.880
down in the South. And I think there's a lot

803
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.679
we don't understand about frequency and how it relates to

804
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:32.079
whatever Bigfoot is, and I would really recommend not playing

805
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:33.119
around with stuff like that.

806
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:38.480
So there you go, but it can get really interesting.

807
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:41.960
That Skinwalker. I don't know if you watch that the

808
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.920
series they did, was it Discovery?

809
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:46.840
Oh yeah, Skinwalker Rancho.

810
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.719
But the on their geigameter is that what it's called.

811
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.719
It kept hitting a certain frequency. I don't know if

812
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.880
you remember that part or not, but it would when

813
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.400
activity would start, it would at this one it was

814
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.079
like three point four or something like that. I don't remember,

815
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.519
but it would happen every time.

816
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.440
So I'm sure someone I know there's a lot of

817
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.079
listeners that are also into those shows too, and I'm

818
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.559
sure someone can put in the comments exactly what that

819
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:19.719
number is.

820
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:21.199
So how is.

821
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.199
You know the last thing then you experienced was the

822
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.760
sighting on two ninety five, and then how did that

823
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.280
affect you afterwards?

824
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.519
It was validating in a way because I still was like,

825
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.639
at least I note that exists. I still don't know

826
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:47.400
how things got into the house and out without making

827
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:49.920
a noise getting out of the house and landing on

828
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.079
the roof and all that they get into Mothman and

829
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:54.320
all that stuff.

830
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.239
I think about it constantly.

831
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:03.559
I'm not gonna lie, Like, every time I'm driving through

832
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:05.039
the woods, I think about it.

833
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:06.199
I'm looking for it.

834
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.920
It. I wish I could say that it doesn't encompass

835
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:15.519
every thought in my head, but there's not probably three

836
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.960
hours that go by that I don't think about it

837
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:22.119
in one way or another. It I was so scared

838
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.280
the night that it was in the house or whatever

839
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.639
it was, and just to think that there's it's unnerving

840
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.800
to know that we don't know what this is and

841
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.360
we and it can read our thoughts.

842
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:39.719
It can there's no privacy around it at all. It's

843
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.440
just I don't know. I don't know what to think.

844
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.480
That's why I like talking to people like you, and

845
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.960
at least the people that have come to.

846
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:54.679
Terms with knowing that it's there. It's so frustrating to

847
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:56.960
talk to people and it's not their fault. I would

848
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.199
have been the same way if somebody caught said I

849
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:00.960
saw a bigfoot.

850
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.480
I'd be like a world that you didn't. I'd be like,

851
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.960
there's no such thing. You have to experience it. You

852
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:16.760
just have to. But I also get really frustrated.

853
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.199
Now when I'm in the woods with people, because I

854
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.920
still love walking through the woods, but people are so

855
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.559
loud and they're really not paying attention to what is

856
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.360
around them. But it's so hard to stop and for

857
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.639
me and to just be quiet for a minute and

858
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.760
to look at what is around me, because I find

859
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.880
even in my tiny little space, if I'm standing in

860
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:44.519
the woods, I could probably find three pretty interesting species

861
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:49.239
of something, whether it be an insect or a certain

862
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:55.480
fungus or a tree or there's just so much around

863
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:59.599
us all the time, and we're losing that.

864
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.760
You know, so fast of.

865
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:08.079
The bigfoot experiences intersected with your career as a vet

866
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:08.440
at all?

867
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:12.239
No, okay, cool, och, not at all.

868
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.719
I find myself if I get like, we have a

869
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.000
lot of military presence around here. And if I find

870
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.840
myself in a room with a client that's bit that

871
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:22.880
lived in like.

872
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.559
Washington State, I'm like to ask him. I have like

873
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.320
a little Devil and the angels. You know what to

874
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.199
do doctor Creek Water? Don't you ask Dan for that?

875
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.360
And you know, my little Devil's like ask him? Ask

876
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:37.360
him so.

877
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.440
Because they're pretty open about it because of the fact

878
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:46.519
that it's everyone talks about it openly, and there's all

879
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.400
sorts of tourist shops and stuff out there. But yeah,

880
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.880
it's I've been in this practice since I was eighteen.

881
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:56.880
I became a vet when I was twenty eight. Of

882
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.000
all of em dying in my life is veterinary medice.

883
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.360
It's the only thing I've ever been interested in. And

884
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:08.639
I started cleaning cages and walking dogs when I was

885
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:13.880
I think seventeen, So I've been an animal clinics since.

886
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.400
And trust me, the people that work with me are

887
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:21.039
just as weird. But other things, you know what I'm

888
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.679
saying it, but it's something else. We love the animals

889
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.719
and we're really passionate about what we do, and we

890
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.199
work really hard, and so it's it's.

891
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:36.719
Become more of a natural thing. It was scary at.

892
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:39.400
First, and that may be a reason why I moved

893
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.719
to the Eastern Shore first, because I didn't want to

894
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.880
come here and be terrible at practice or something. I

895
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.400
just didn't know, so I had zero business on a

896
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.400
farm truck in the middle of the night on the

897
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.320
Eastern Shore. Like going up to these farms and trying

898
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:55.920
to find the animals out in the woods.

899
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.400
That was dangerous. I was like, maybe I should bring

900
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.400
it in a little bit and just do cats and.

901
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:05.840
Yeah, some while soup.

902
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.159
You could always get a little bigfoot and put it

903
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:11.800
on your desk in your office, and then if they're like, oh,

904
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:14.880
bigfoot I have, then you can give them so you

905
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:15.719
don't have to ask.

906
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.400
But just get a little guy like this, I have

907
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:17.880
a little guy.

908
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:25.880
I just got the calendar, so we're going to hang

909
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:27.000
it on the granch tree.

910
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.880
Nice. Awesome, Aaron.

911
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.079
What a fascinating life you've had so far, with so

912
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:39.400
many different things that you have experienced and extremely intense.

913
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:43.280
Thank you for taking the time to share what you've experienced.

914
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.440
I appreciate that. Feel free to reach out if you

915
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:51.559
ever experience anything else. Hopefully I don't know that's a

916
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.719
question for you. Do you want to experience anything else?

917
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:54.800
Or are you okay?

918
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:56.000
Want to know.

919
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:02.280
How if anyone has ever had any kind of experience

920
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.639
where you have had it in your own house and

921
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.800
then know that it's outside again, Like, that's the one

922
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:17.400
experience that I haven't heard. I think confessionals had what

923
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.519
he thought may have been like a dog man in

924
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.519
his house on one of his things.

925
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.599
And that is about as close as that got. And God,

926
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.320
I just cannot. I can't do dog man, big.

927
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:32.800
No, dog dog Man is not a good time.

928
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.440
But yet, if people that are listening are like, oh

929
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:40.320
I have experienced that, please really same exact thing, put

930
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:42.760
it in the comments. I'm sure Aaron will be watching

931
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.800
the comments and then and we'll see if this is

932
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.599
maybe a common things, that common thing that happens and

933
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.000
maybe we just haven't really heard about it.

934
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:51.559
We'll see where this leads.

935
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:52.920
But I'll send you.

936
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.039
How do I send you my video with the rock

937
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.440
hitting the house behind me? I do say a bad

938
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.079
word in the video, but maybe we could do that

939
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:02.639
on I'll just send it to you.

940
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:05.960
Oh yeah, is that something where I'd be able to

941
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:06.440
share that?

942
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:07.840
Or absolutely?

943
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:08.679
Okay? Cool?

944
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.920
Yeah, anything that you would want to send, you can

945
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:14.440
send to me. The email is big for society at

946
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.000
gmail dot com. Okay, and I'll hopefully be able to

947
00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:20.679
put that in the video version on YouTube. If you

948
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.400
guys are listening just on the audio side, I have

949
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.519
been able to start doing primarily all video interviews, so

950
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.320
you're actually able to see me talking to the interviewee,

951
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.679
So make sure you check out the YouTube channel as well.

952
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.000
But Erin, thank you so much for coming on the

953
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.400
show and for sharing your experiences.

954
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:40.840
Yeah, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much.

955
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.880
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

956
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.199
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

957
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.960
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

958
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.840
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

959
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:58.119
a National Park ranger or forestreet worker who's been told

960
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.880
to stay quiet, pilot who's seen something strange down on

961
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:06.320
the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency,

962
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.679
or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not

963
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allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

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or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

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tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry,

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on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

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contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

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a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

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or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

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that shook your faith, or if you work in the

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shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

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what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

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even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

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what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

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You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

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in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

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of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

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us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

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and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

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tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast,

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star positive review because all that helps more people discover

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has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

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from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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dot com and let's start the conversation. If you haven't

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gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community over

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at www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's

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place to connect with other people that are into the

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Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again for

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following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time, keep

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your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking

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what else might be out there? And see you in

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the woods.