Their Headlights Lit Up Something Taller Than Their SUV

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the CaringBridge link in the show notes. Thank you. Hey, Sean, how's it going?

0:47 How you doing? Hey, doing well. Yeah, I know that the border's kind of a... You know, I grew up... I'll just say I grew up in Northfield, which is southern New Hampshire, Massachusetts border, right? Yeah. I don't know. Is that the area you're talking. About, man? I'm talking about the area of Salem, New Hampshire. Yeah, okay. In the Methuen, Massachusetts line. Absolutely. Yep, yep, yep. Wow. There's a river over there called the Spigot River. It's got a bunch of power lines that come down it. And I. There's actually a rail trail that they had built through their old railroad tracks. They made it into a bike path. And it was about 10 o'clock at night.

1:29 And it just jumped out into the middle of the trail and just looked at me. And then leaped into the woods and was on its way. My goodness. How tall would you estimate it to be? I would have to estimate it to be at least seven feet tall. It was big, and I'll tell you, I don't think it was alone either because I heard some crashing in the woods behind me as in the yard. Oof. So it sounds like it was a pretty quick sighting then. Oh, I think we– Sean, you still there?

2:13 I think we may. Oh, I think we... Sean, you still there? I think we may have lost you. Oh, man. I think we lost Sean. Sean, if you can hear me at all... Yep. Okay, he's out. Feel free to... I'd love to talk to you. Hopefully, we can talk to Sean later here. Let's see. Steve Shadow wants to come up here. Hey, Shadow. Thanks for coming up. How's it going? It's going good. How are you?

2:53 Hey, doing well. So you've had some things happen out there in Colorado? No, Montana. Oh, Montana. Nice. Okay. Yeah. Well, feel free to share what you've experienced out there, my friend. Well, my best experience is we were up doing an investigation. And as we were sitting in camp, we heard some movement off to our left. and we shined a light off to the tree, and we could see it poking its head to the side of the tree. And it was at least nine feet off the ground. And as soon as we did that, it poked its head back around the tree and disappeared. We went up behind the tree, and its feet were impressed into the ground at least two inches. which would indicate that it was at least a 600 pound creature, whatever it was. Now directly behind it was a solid granite wall going off at about a 45 degree angle. So it went up the wall, it went up the side of the mountain rather quickly.

4:03 And something that big to navigate that side of a mountain that quickly is incredibly agile and fast. But we didn't feel threatened at all. I mean, it just was there to let us know, we know you're here, sort of thing. Absolutely. Was this an area that's pretty known for sightings? It is, actually. The Indian Reservation over by Whitehall, Montana, is very well known for sightings. Well, the reason we were there is because of a... A previous hunter had actually sent it to BFRO, but he sent a video that he had taken.

4:50 Oh, yeah. Of a Bigfoot that had gone through a small meadow clearing where he was hunting. He was up in a stand and he took a video of it. What's this? Oh, go ahead. We were up there checking it out. Because there's some caves up in that area, and we were going to check out the caves. So before we went up to the caves that night, the night before, we had set up camp. And this is where it had happened. This is within the last year?

5:32 This was last summer, yeah. This was last August that we were up here. And they were. It was very well aware we were there. And we knew there was at least one or two of them behind us, checking us out from behind. I mean, you could tell from the size and how quickly they moved that they could very easily have walked into the camp and just as curious of us as we were of them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they're threatening at all. I just think they're just trying to live their life, you know, as we're trying to live ours.

6:21 Absolutely. Were you able to get a good look at its face when you had the sighting? Oh, yeah, most definitely. And when you, I don't know, you hear other investigators will tell you once you actually see one in person, it changes your whole perspective. And it really does. And you could tell by the look on its face that it was highly intelligent. And it was animalistic, yes, but not really animalistic. There was intelligence behind its eyes. I mean, it knew exactly what it was doing, and it was there. And it was crossed between ape and, well, not really ape, but primate, sort of.

7:08 But A lot of human to it, if that makes any sense. Okay. It was very, very. I mean, I've done a lot of researching, and I've researched a lot of videos and a lot of things. I mean, a lot of things that people see is misidentification, a lot of times, of other animals. But this was definitely no misidentification. This was... something other than a known animal shall we say but it was definitely it was definitely bigfoot there's no mistaking that when you see one and it was it was definitely there it was uh i would guess made it to be between eight and nine feet tall and probably a good five six hundred pounds slightly older because it had graying hair on its face and shoulders And the majority of the hair was an auburn brown color. But as big as they are, they move incredibly fast and silent. I mean, they're not really noisy. When they want to be silent, they can be very silent. And they do migrate along the elk trails and the larger animal trails because they follow the animals.

8:38 Because the animals saw the food sources. From what you saw that day, was there anything that you noticed that the Bigfoot community usually gets wrong about them? I think a lot of people, well, you actually see one. It takes you off guard. And a lot of people are afraid because of the size. And, you know, that's understandable, of course, because, you know, that's not something you normally see when you're out in the woods hiking or camping or whatever. But I think if you give them enough room and respect, they're not going to harm you. But I think primarily if you're just... give them respect and a wide berth, I think they're just going to do what they're out there to do. And I think one of our biggest fears as a cryptozoologist or any sort of investigator for Bigfoot is by the time we figure out what they actually are or what they're up to, there may not be enough of them left. Right.

9:57 Exactly. Yeah. I know it and unfortunately human nature is we like to destroy what we don't understand and that's one of my biggest fears is by the time we do figure them out it'll be too late. Do you have any advice for people that want to go out and try to look for them and have an experience? Just keep your eyes and ears open. And I really wouldn't go, if you see one, don't run after it. Because if you do end up, for some odd reason, cornering one of them, They will defend themselves. And they are incredibly strong, incredibly agile, and they are a lot stronger than you are, by far. And they will protect each other. There are stories that when it comes to the family units, they will definitely defend their family units.

11:10 But if you happen to be out in the woods and you happen to run across one, Just observe it. Don't be threatening and don't hurt it. Don't try to hurt it at all. I think that's great advice. Shadow, thank you for coming up and for chatting for a little bit. Not a problem. And definitely do not use a firearm against one. Don't shoot one. Don't hunt them. Absolutely. Use your camera, definitely, but don't Don't use any violence towards them. I think that should be understood. Yes, sure. Well, thank you for coming up, Shadow. I appreciate it.

11:53 All right. Thank you for having me on your podcast, your broadcast here. I appreciate it. You got it. I wish all well. Thank you. Good stuff. It was a pleasure chatting with Shadow there. Let's see. Carlotta wants to come up here. Hi, is it Carlotta? Carlotta. Oh, that was perfect. That was awesome. Oh, great. Yeah. Thanks for coming up. What brings you up? Well, we're in Virginia and, uh, we have mountain land in Highland County, Virginia, and there's always been little stories about Highland County, Virginia and seeing Bigfoot. And when I was a little girl, there were stories of that. And, uh, We, of course, we hunt back there. And this past hunting season in 2024, we're in bed and I don't sleep well back there anyway. And I woke up and we heard this noise. And it was no animal that I've ever heard in my 52 years ever. And it's just questionable to what it really was.

13:17 Would you be able to describe any part of what you heard? Yeah, but it sounds ridiculous, but yes, I can. Go for it. So I'm laying. There in bed, and I also have two wiener dogs, and in the midst of all of this, neither one of them, they bark at the world, and neither one of them reacted in any way, shape, or form. But we were laying there, and all I heard, it started out, it was far away. It went whoop, whoop. And it did that three times in a row, and then you just hear this bang. Oh, wow.

13:59 And then it got, the next time, I woke my husband up. I'm like, listen, listen. And he started talking. I'm like, hush and listen, you know. And then the next time it did it, It was very much closer. And then the next time it did it, you could tell it had moved further away. And then the next time it did it, you could tell it. Had moved further away. Now, I will also say that where we are with our camp is on top of a ridge, and sounds do not translate to real sounds.

14:40 If that makes sense. So you might hear something over on this ridge. It sounds like it's somewhere else, but it's not where you think it is because of the way the ridges roll on both sides of our camp. But, yep, that was our experience. You know, I don't think any part of what you just said was crazy because I hear it a lot. Yeah. To me, that sounds perfectly normal, to be honest. Like I said, I'm 52, and I have never— I' ve been back there. That has been our mountain land since I was eight years old.

15:26 And I have. Never heard— I' ve heard hoot owls scared me to death. When I was a little girl. And I'm asking my mom, I said, what was that? She said, it was a hoo-dow. I said, okay. I have never heard this in my entire life. It wasn't, yeah. It wasn't a bobcat. It wasn't a, no. Because it was a straight. Up whoop, whoop. And it did that. Three times and then you just hear this bang. Yeah, it sounded like when it initially started up, it sounded like it was kind of beating on something and then it would just do the whoop. And then it would just be, and when it would hit, we have a 55-gallon drum out from our camp, and it literally sounded like it was hitting that, but the first time it was so far away, and the next time it sounded like it was right in the front yard, and then the next time it was further away from that, but you still heard that consistent bang.

16:22 After that happened. My goodness. And like I said, I have two wiener dogs that never even lifted an ear. They never even, like, which is weird. That's weird in itself also. So, yeah. Well, thank you for coming up and for sharing what you guys experienced there. If you continue to have stuff happen, you feel free to reach out to me. My email is bigfootsociety at gmail.com. Gotcha, gotcha. I'll follow you anyway because I... I just, I don't know if they're true, but if you can't prove they aren't, we don't know they aren't.

17:06 There you go. That's the way I look at it. There you go. Thank you for coming up. I appreciate it. All right. Thank you. Good stuff. Good stuff. Here we go. Hi there. How's it going? Good. How you doing? Doing well. Thanks for coming up. What's going on up there in Wisconsin for you? Oh man, I don't even know. So it all started about three years ago. Now it's September of 2022. I've been going up to this spot. My family's got a cabin up there in the Hayward area. It's on the edge of the Schwalbe National Forest. I've been going there since I was like one year old.

17:48 I'm in my thirties now. So my entire life grew up there in a lot of ways. This September night, me and two buddies were on a fishing trip and we like to stay up late and fish off the dock. And we never, we rarely catch anything at night, but it's just a excuse to sit under the stars and enjoy the quiet. And, uh, this one night, very quiet night, uh, slightly overcast, very still. Me and my three buddies were on the dock and from behind us, it sounded like it couldn't have been close to further than a hundred yards away. We heard this massive whoop and there, there was three of them. And when I first heard the noise, it sounded like, like a, like a primate, but as it kept vocalizing, it sounded less like an ape and more like a man. It was very creepy and it was very loud. I honestly thought I was going to turn around and see something standing at the edge of the dock. Um, but it, there's a small hill, maybe about 50 yards back. There's like a row of cabins that were empty at the time. And it had to have been right at the, right at the bridge and seen us. We didn't know what it was in the moment.

19:08 We were just kind of stunned with this. It was louder than a car horn. Like we, we couldn't believe it. We were just stunned silent for about 10 minutes. Then afterwards we heard other noises coming from across the lake. And we all heard something different. I, it was very quiet, much quieter. I, to me, it sounded like, like a group of children, like chatting and talking really quietly. But one of my other friends said it sounded more like, like a horn, like an air horn to him. Like, and I don't know how we both heard the same thing, but heard two different things. But, uh, that, that, that event stuck with me.

19:51 And on the way home, I was going through my phone, looking up animal noises from the area and, uh, couldn't find anything even remotely close. Someone suggested an owl. It was not an owl. Uh, and I came across this, uh, Sierra sounds, which I I've heard before, but I heard like the, the chatter, the samurai talk, but there's a whooping noise in the samurai sounds. And it, it sounded just. Like that, like the, like the whoops and the Sierra sounds. And that kind of opened my eyes to what may be going on up there. And, uh, it was kind of just the beginning. Um, yeah, that it shook me.

20:33 I still think about it almost every day. Wow. And that's happening right now. You're saying. Um that was three years ago oh three. Years ago okay gotcha 22 so since then a lot a lot of other strange things have happened um not not exactly stereotypical bigfoot experiences but we've seen ufos dropping things out of the sky it looks like a star with stars falling out of it that was this past year we saw that we watched them for about 10 minutes like flying over the horizon and it looked like they would split and then something would drop down to the horizon. We're sitting there looking at this, like, what the hell is this? Um, we heard, uh, we heard a booming noise another year, uh, about 10 o'clock. It sounded like an explosion from the forest. Uh, like a cannon fire. I know a lot of people talk about hearing booming noises. Um, so that was, that was very strange. Um, There's a, there's a spot in front of my cabin where one year I went up and there's a, there's a stick there, a large branch from a pine tree that doesn't really match any of the trees in the immediate area. And I was like, this is a little weird, a branch being here, maybe a storm knocked it over. So I took it and I dragged it into the woods. And then I went back up a few weeks later and the branch was back out in front of my cabin or where I pulled it from the first time. Um, and, uh, Even

22:04 like going in the lights, the lights are the weirdest part. So I have this memory when I was like 10 years old that there's like a fire pit in that field between the dock and the cabin. And one of my least favorite things to do as a kid was to go from the fireplace to the cabin at late at night after we were done. I hated it. I would run because it freaked me out. And I remember one time running from the fire pit to the cabin by myself and And from behind the trees, I remember seeing what looked like beams of light. Or like concert lights. And they were like multicolored and they were like shooting up from behind the trees.

22:48 And I, you know, I looked at it for about half a second, but I was scared. So I ran off. And when I grew up, I kind of dismissed it. You know, maybe it was a meteor or something. I don't know. And then. A couple years ago, I saw them again. It was 4th of July weekend in 2023. It was the 5th of July, so we were up all night for the fourth light and stuff off. And we were. At the dock watching the sun come up. And it was very foggy that night. Very thick fog. And it was like 4 a.m. right when dusk was breaking and it was beginning to get light, but it was still twilight time.

23:29 And I saw what. Looked like a array of spotlights shooting up from behind the same hill. And I could see the lights shooting across the field. Over and above the lake. It looked like an array of like. Four or six purple and pink spotlights shooting across the field. And I noticed it and I turned around to look at where it was coming from and they shut off immediately. It lasted about a second, like long enough for me to notice that they were there and like look at them, but not long enough to really sit there and look at them. And at the time it felt like it felt like they noticed or it noticed that I noticed it, you know, shut themselves off.

24:17 It was very spooky. Um, and we've also seen, um, we've seen, uh, they kind of, uh, people describe them as balls of light. But to me, they're very small. They're like the size of like a bug or a dime. And they're lime green. And I've seen them twice. One time was with my dad. We were out in the lake walleye fishing. And I saw this little green light bobbing on the surface. Of the water. It was bright. It looked kind of like a lightning bug. But lightning bugs are like yellow. And this was like lime green. And it stayed lit. Usually like lightning bugs kind of flash.

24:57 And I watched this light, like it was pitch black. I couldn't see anything, but I saw this little green light bobbing maybe five feet in front of me in the lake. And I kind of pointed out to my dad, I'm like, what is that? And he didn't know. And we watched it bob for a second and then it shot down into the water and I could see it kind of fade as it got. Deeper and deeper. And my dad just said, that's, that's bizarre. And there was really nothing else to say about it. And, uh, The second time I saw it was in the bay at night again. And it looked like. The lake kind of looks like the glow bobbers that we use the night fish. So we use like a bobber.

25:39 It's got a little glow stick at the end of it. And it looked like someone cast a glow bobber across the lake. But I mean, there's clearly no one on the lake. You can see everything at night. But it looked like someone cast a glow bobber and it arced through the sky and or through the air, maybe 20 feet up or so. And then it hit the water and I saw it like proceed down into the water and fade out as it went under. And, uh, to me, it almost feels like the lights are imitating the light we make with our glow bobbers at night. Like the bobbing of the bobber on the surface of the water and the arcing of the, the, the bobber as we cast it, it feels like they're mimicking the action of our glow bobbers as we're fishing. It's, I don't even know what to make of that, but it feels like they're trying to relate or communicate to us in some way by mirroring the lights that we make at night.

26:34 Wow. That's some wild stuff. You know, what you were saying reminded me of, I had an interview. This is about two months ago. A gentleman from Wisconsin from over near, I don't know if you know where Callahan Lake is. No, I've not heard of it. So it's about, uh, I looked it up. It's about 15 minutes East of where Hayward is. Hayward, Wisconsin. Yeah. Oh, I think you, I think you may have muted yourself by accident. All right.

27:18 I'm here. Good. Good. Yeah. Lake's about 20 miles South of me. It's not far. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. But, uh, It's episode 671, and this gentleman, Andrew, was just sharing some really interesting things about tree snapping, heavy bipedal footsteps, screams, whoops, dogs getting injured, footprints on a frozen lake, just really weird stuff kind of similar to what you're saying. So it might be worth your time checking it out for sure. No. I believe I've actually connected with Andrew at some point. Oh, really? On some Bigfoot forum. I've been on a search ever since trying to figure out what's going on. Andrew and there's another one, Driftless, on YouTube.

28:05 I've spoken with him. Oh, I know who Driftless is, too. Both good guys. A lot of overlap in our experiences. Andrew's very close to me. Okay. How far that area of the lake is. Another thing that's interesting is that our resort is from the area where I heard these noises and these lights, there's a power line corridor that passes through there. And that same power line corridor goes through the area where Andrew is as well. Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Wow. This is awesome. Thank you for coming up. Absolutely. I got more. We got a letter from the power company last year that they're planning on burying those power lines and letting the corridor grow over, which I thought was very interesting.

28:59 Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it's an expensive project. They have to bury the lines for, you know, maybe 100 miles through the forest. And they say it's for maintenance reasons, right? But it's just crazy to me that they'd invest in burying those lines and letting it grow over to save on cutting some trees down. And I don't know. Could be a coincidence, but I thought it was interesting. It sounds weird. It sounds like a lot of work for maybe not a lot of return. I don't know. Absolutely. I've also taken a few very interesting photos up there. Okay.

29:41 I can email those to you after we talk. Yeah, absolutely. The first one was about two weeks before the whooping encounter. So it was before I knew anything was going on. And I was doing astrophotography. I got a fancy phone with long exposure. And I was setting it down on a table and then taking 30-second long exposures. And I captured... Most of the pictures looked like stars, normal. And then right in the middle of it, there's one that didn't turn out. And in the photo. there is an in-focus object that I can only describe as looking like a potato or like a lumpy asteroid or something. It's like brownish-pink colored, but it's in focus, and you can make out features and angles on it, and you can see shadows being cast across some of the features, and I have no idea what to make of it. It looks like a lumpy potato in the sky, and just beautiful. Based off of, you know, the resolution of it and how large it looks, it couldn't have been more than maybe 100 feet above me. We had a fire going at the time, so something in theory could have been illuminated by a fire just enough for the camera to pick up, but the camera's better than my naked eye. And whatever it was, it must have been still for at least 30 seconds for the photo.

30:59 That's weird. Yeah. Yeah. And just overall, in my time up there as a kid, I just remember always being freaked out by those woods at night. Like there's this one window next to my bed that faces the woods. And at night, I remember like propping up the blinds, the shade and like putting things on the windowsill. So it completely covered the window at night because I would always get freaked out if there was a little gap there. I felt like something was watching me. Wow, some wild stuff. Definitely, if you get a few minutes after, I'd love to see those photos and definitely have a way to contact you if I need. There's not many people that reach out from Wisconsin, so this is pretty cool.

31:47 Yeah, there's a lot going on up there. I hear some bar stories and stuff. There's been a couple of visual encounters in my immediate area. There's a lot of stigma about it, though. You know, people want to dismiss it. Oh, it was a lot. Yeah, I got a neighbor once who said, oh, you heard that loud owl. There's a loud owl out there. And I'm like, what are they talking about? But I'm thinking this may be hearing these noises and just, oh, it's an owl, you know. A really, really loud one. Yeah, I've heard some weird owl hoots up there, too. I know an owl makes hooting noises, but I've heard what sounds like an owl hoot coming from across the lake.

32:28 like a very distinct, loud owl who come from across the lake louder than it should be. But then I would hear a second hoot come from behind me from in the forest, also from a great distance. And I know that sound travels over the lake amplified. Like you can hear people talking across the lake, but it doesn't work that way through the woods. And they, I could hear him hoot back and forth. You know, I'd hear a hoot. And then a minute later, there'd be a hoot behind me. And then it'd be a hoot in front of me. Like it's, there's a crazy amount of activity up there. If, You know what you're looking for. I've heard loon calls from the woods as well. Loon calls from. The woods and loons only live in the water. You'll never find a loon on the shore or in the woods.

33:11 So there's no reason to be hearing loon noises coming from the woods. That is weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. This is, you, you've got a lot going up there. Definitely. We need to keep in touch, but do thank you for coming up and for, for chatting for a little bit. I appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for hosting us, you know, bring some awareness, you know, you got it. You got it. People got to know what's out there. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They're definitely gonna, well, man, we'll be in touch and good talking to you, dude. Yeah. You have a good night.

33:55 Good stuff. It's always fun. You never hear stuff from Wisconsin. That's awesome. Hey, Trippie. How's it going? Good. How's it going? Awesome. What's going on, man? I wanted to tell my story. I'm also from Wisconsin, so I thought that was kind of interesting what the previous guy was talking about. Oh, yeah. I had a sighting back in 2020. I was.... Camping with a friend and his family up in north of Shawano and Kashina. And I was eating at a restaurant on Shawano Lake and it was getting late. And up until that point, we were like on the boat all day. We were tired, you know, it was it was getting late. So we decided to drive back to the cabin and. So one group went another way, and then we decided we wanted to kind of take a scenic route.

34:54 Along the lake. And we kind of exited out and hopped back on the highway, and we were coming in. But they had just recently started construction along the roads in Kishina. So when we got in there, we were there for a week. And they had these big ditches so that they could get excavators out so they could redo the roads. So they had all these big three-foot ditches along the roads. But this matters because when we were coming back, I saw something walking along the ditches. And my friend had a Dodge Durango, which is a pretty tall car. And when we were walking or driving along the road there, we had something that was a whole head and shoulders taller than the Durango walking along the ditches. And when the car lights hit it on the side, it was illuminated all sheen on its back. And this was like a reddish hair. And its shoulders, I'd say, had to have been at least four foot wide. Whatever it was, it was massive and red-haired. I could tell this thing was very tall. But from the three seconds I saw it, I could see hair hanging down in between its armpits and Yeah, I was on the passenger side, so I was within feet of.

36:20 Whatever it was when the light hit it. And that's kind of stuck with me for a long time because I've been telling people my story and letting them know what happened. But I guess not a lot of people believe up in northern Wisconsin that there's Bigfoot. Ouch. That is so, man, that's awesome. So it was a back view only. It sounds like. Yeah, I got a back view and it was the light hit it perfectly to where I could see like the height and the ditch and above the car.

37:01 Were you able to see anything about the shape of the head or anything like that? Um, it was leaning forward so I could see the, like the neck, uh, but I couldn't see like the top of the head. Gotcha. Okay. It was just, it was dragging as it walked and it kind of like was leaning forward. Um, was it doing anything, uh, weird or anything you noticed with its arms at all? Um, I didn't notice anything out with the arms. I just noticed how. Large the shoulders and like the gap between like, I'd say the armpit.

37:42 I could see hair hanging in that. So I could tell it was pretty long hair. That is such a unique detail. I've never heard anyone say that detail. And I've been doing this for more than five years. I've never heard that detail ever. That is interesting. That's one of the big details that stuck with me was its shoulders and all that hair hanging off the back. I'd say. It had to have been, like, I want to say three feet of, or not three feet, two feet of, like, just coarse, long, red hair just hanging off its shoulders and its back.

38:28 Did the hair color, just how it looked, did it remind you of any other animal at all? Um.... So funny enough, my first impression when the light hit it was I was in an Indian reservation. I was thinking because the sheen when it hits, it's white off of fur. I was thinking it's some shirtless dude walking out in the woods with long hair. But then when the light moved, you could see it on one side that it was actually just all hair. So I couldn't describe any any other color. It was like. I would say it's like a brownish red.

39:10 And I've never seen that in any animal in Wisconsin. Wow. Do you know if there's been any other sightings in that area where you had yours? I did follow up and tell the BRFRO about it. Okay. And this had happened in 2020 and I think early August. I had talked to a guy on the phone about it. He said that it was common for them to be seen up in the northern woods walking along roads and I guess cause they're just interested in what's going on.

39:51 I didn't, couldn't get much information out of them other than that. Cause I don't know. The guy seemed a little skeptical, but you know, I thought that I had enough details where it like, it just kind of stuck out to me how it would be walking in a newly added ditch because the road was just getting finished. So it would make sense that something would be interested in all this machinery coming through up in the woods. Other than just the lake cabins and the casino, it's just wilderness up there. Absolutely. Well, I think it's extremely interesting. It makes me be aware of an area that I wasn't aware of in Wisconsin. I'm not seeing it that's listed on the BFRO site, so it's probably in their private area, but I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you saw that day.

40:48 Yeah, no problem. Awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. Good stuff. Hey, Wisconsin's coming up out of nowhere. We just had two Wisconsin witnesses. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own, I would love to hear from you. You can send me an email with your encounter information. at bigfootsociety at gmail.com. I've come out with a free report about the top 10 Bigfoot hotspots. You can go over to bit.ly forward slash BFS report. I'm Jeremiah Byron. Thanks for listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you in the woods.