Oregon Camper Says a Huge Hand Gripped His Head

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the CaringBridge link in the show notes. Thank you. Chris, how's it going? Thanks for coming up.

0:45 Awesome. Yeah. So what's what happened down in Texas, man? So my parents own riverfront property down there near Maxdale, Texas. And, you know, it's next to the Land Passage River. And, you know, it's just normal camping. You know, typically I was 13 years old. I wanted to go camping by myself. They did. They let me. They trusted me. I'd go fishing down there at the river. And roughly about... let's say two 30 or three in the morning. I heard like, I thought somebody was walking down there and the land passes river. Uh, you could hear water sloshing and the water was kind of low at the time. Cause we had a, we had droughts and there were some spots where they were, they were deep and I got out of the tent and I had, I had a crappy phone then, but I saw this large creature just kind of walking through. And I, at first I thought it was a bird or something, but then I realized what I was looking at was.

1:48 A lot bigger, a lot bigger than life. And it was walking. And at first I thought it was a person, you know, dressed with overalls like the, the dark Brown overalls, I guess. Right. And the closer I started looking at it, it was, I guess it was a bigger than what I expected. And I just, I, I went up there, and I ran up to the house, and I told my parents. And, of course, they called the police, or the Bell County sheriffs came out, and. They took my phone from me. They said what I saw was not real, and it was just probably someone messing around.

2:29 What did they do with your phone? I have no idea. Oh, my goodness. I took my phone and, and, and then a couple of days later, it was pretty interesting. We had, we had a couple of people stopped by the house. I'd never, they were just wearing like plain clothes and stuff. And yeah, they, uh, they asked me what I saw and I told him, I said, you know, tall creature, real dark, but they, you know, I also too, you know, I was tired and stuff like that, but I, I've never seen anything like that before. There's been a couple of. Other times where, uh, I've been camping and we've had stuff thrown at us, uh, that we went further down the river and my dad actually went with me and he, he won't talk about it.

3:17 He's, he just, he doesn't talk about anything. He's, he's ex military. So he don't, he keeps his mouth shut when he sees things and, or he doesn't talk about anything. But, uh, we were camping further down the river and he went with me and we. Had, we had several rocks thrown at our tent. And, uh, and we, we thought we heard something on the other side of the river. So I don't know. I get the chills talking about it. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I'm sure you're not the only one to have experiences down there. If they are coming to the house, taking your phone and then dude, yeah, there's other stuff going on. Absolutely. They're just trying to keep a lid on it.

4:01 You know, and we, and we're not, we're not that far from, well, it used to be Fort hood. Now it's Fort Cavazos, but, we're not you know they're not that far from the the airport and stuff but like i said it's just it was a weird experience and i i don't know i wouldn't want anybody to go through it so. Absolutely uh and you you didn't uh did you get a good look at its face at all or was it yeah. It was kind of hard to see it was it was really dark i mean i but I mean, this thing was huge. It was tall, wide, real big, broad shoulders. I mean, this thing looked like it could pick up a tree or a truck or something. And it was big, and it was sloshing through water.

4:46 It was heavy, heavy breathing. I mean, whatever it was. I ain't never seen anything like that. I didn't go back down there for a couple of weeks. I stayed up at the house. I just refused to go fishing down there. Um, I actually started going to Lake Belton instead just to go fishing out there. I, I didn't. Go back out there. Um, I went recently to the same spot where I had, where I'd seen that. And, uh, I, I mean, it, it looks totally different now. Of course that's, you know, 15, 16 years later, but that's, wow.

5:27 It was just, it was creepy. It was creepy experiencing that. And then, uh, my mom recently, I, you know, I know this is kind of off the subject. My mom was telling me that, uh, the other night she thought she had heard something outside and I was like, well, did, you know. Did you take the flashlight out there and look? And she goes, no. I said, well, I mean, don't go outside, you know, just point it outside the window. Uh, she just, she told me she heard weird things and she's also told me that she's seen weird stuff in the sky and stuff like that. And she's seen like little, like what, like orbs of light over there. We have property next to us that's probably about 45. Acres on the left and right of us so i don't know.

6:12 I don't know when you live out in the middle of nowhere you you tend to see and hear things a little better than. I guess oh absolutely do your do your neighbors like do you ever talk to your neighbors at all and do you Do they have stuff happen to on their properties? Yes, they've had. So the neighbors up the road from them, I say up the road, probably a good five to ten miles away because they own ranches and farmland. They've had a problem. Well, they had. The neighbor north of them going further down the road had an issue with cattle coming up missing.

6:54 I mean, just cows just coming up missing, calves. Full-grown heifers, bulls. I mean, you know, bulls are tough. If you're fighting with a bull, then, you know, you've got to be a bigger animal than a bull. And they had several of them come up missing, and they just never really found where they disappeared to. So, wild stuff. Wild, wild stuff, dude. Thank you for coming up and for sharing what's going on down there. I appreciate it. Hey, Willie. Thanks for coming up. What's going on, man? I had an encounter in southwestern PA in the Laurel Highlands in the fall of 2020. A solo backpacking trip.

7:40 Had three days off work and looking forward to it. Got out later than I wanted to the night that I went out to set up. Four tenths of a mile is all it was from the trailhead parking lot down to the site that I picked in a hemlock grove near a stream flowed through that little grove. But anyhow, I got there, policed the ground, got all the pine cones, sticks, rocks, everything out so I could roll out my tent, set it up, got a fire going. And that sensation of being watched that so many people can relate to, hit me strong. I mean, it hit me like a smack in the face. I mean, I knew something was watching me, but the brighter that fire got, the more exposed I felt, the more visible that I felt. And it was really unnerving because you couldn't, you don't know what's on the other side of that in the darkness. So I figured it's, I looked at my phone. I had a flip phone at the time and it was only like seven o'clock and I'm thinking, oh boy, I got a long ways till morning. So I went inside the tent, laid down on my side, fully dressed, left my sleeping bag, pulled it up over top of me like a comforter kind of.

8:59 And I'm sitting there just listening to the sounds and all of a sudden a stick hits a tent and I didn't think much about it. And I heard another crack and something hits the tent. Another stick snaps, something hits a tent. So this wasn't like a coincidence. This was like kind of a pattern. So I'm sitting there listening, not making a sound, not moving, not, I mean, nothing, just listening to this. This went on for probably two hours, I would say. Well, I didn't show any, like I said, I didn't react or gasp or scream or nothing like that. I just, I kept quiet and just laid down. Across the creek, a tree was pushed. You ever hear like when a.

9:48 Tree company guy, when they're making that base cut at the bottom of the tree, you can hear that inner, that loud crack and the tree goes down. That's what I heard. And this thing came down, it was on the other side of the creek. and it was pushed over. There was no wind out that night or anything. And it wasn't like a dead tree or anything. And the tops of the limbs came into like my campsite. I didn't even bother. I mean, I knew how close it came to the tent without having to unzip the tent and look out. Now I'm like really petrified. I had a 45 auto with me and I had a machete with me. If something were to have come up and pushed down on that tent, I was going to thrust that machete right up through it. But nothing like that ever happened. When it got light enough to see, I unzipped the tent. Oh, God, I got goosebumps just thinking about this. I unzipped the tent.

10:48 And there was sticks all around that tent. And they weren't there the night before because I'd police the whole area so you don't set your tent up on top of sticks or rocks or pine cones or nothing. Those sticks weren't there the night before. They just, they were not there. They were about the size of a pencil, about the diameter and the length. And here they were all the way around my tent because when they hit the top of the tent, they would slide off both directions. And these sticks came from the same tree that I was using to get kindling from to get my fire going. Because the underside of hemlock trees have the really dry dead limbs and they're really, they're up off the ground, they're dry and they're really flammable. So it's great to get your fire started with that. And that's what I was using off of this tree. When I was in that tent, I mean, I knew that that's the same tree that I was just breaking sticks off myself to get that fire going.

11:45 And. Yeah, the worst part about it was sitting inside of that tent, not knowing if this thing is going to get bored and leave or if it's going to up its game and launch like a 100-pound rotted log on top of that little dome tent. You just don't know. Absolutely. I mean, the tents are nice as far as mosquitoes go, but I think I'd have been better off in a tarp with a ridge– ridge rope and a tarp and have all the sides around open so at least i'd have been able to see but when you're inside of that tent you're laying on the ground something could be right outside of that tent standing and you're basically laying at its feet there's nothing more vulnerable than that nothing.

12:33 There's really not i mean what you've got a very uh a very thin layer of of nylon separating you from whatever's outside. Right and it just It just gives you no protection at all. You can't see what's going on. And like I said, I didn't know if the thing was going to launch like a rotted log on top of it or what. But when I got out the next morning and saw all those sticks, I knew for a fact they weren't there the night before. And it took something with thumbs to snap a stick and throw it. And it also was done by something that was either there the whole time or came from the nearest parking lot, which was a half a mile away in total darkness with no lights and did not make a sound, to come down to someone's tent and mess around with them.

13:26 I mean, that's pretty dangerous in itself. I mean, you don't know what's going to happen. You mess around with somebody's camp at night. Oh, absolutely. I mean, they could have any sort of thing in there. Were there any tracks outside when you got out the next morning? Nothing, because it was all like the hemlock.... Needle bed. That's what made it so nice. I mean, to camp in there because it was, there was no like weeds or catbriar or nothing like that. No ground cover, not even any ferns. It was like really. Nice to walk on. But I walked over to where that tree that had been pushed And it was not a. Rotted tree by any means.

14:07 I mean, it should have been, you know, up and it should be up to this day. It should still be growing. It wasn't rotted and there was no wind, nothing. Wow. And all, and to have a tree that big, it was probably 16, 18 inches in diameter. Well, Willie, thank you for coming up and for sharing what happened to you that night out in the woods. I appreciate it. And you said that was Southwest Pennsylvania? Yes, in the Laurel Highlands. And that was in 2020. And I'd been an avid backpacker and camper my whole life. And that kind of ruined it. I haven't been out since. And to have a gun, that's one thing. But if you can't see, what are you going to shoot at?

14:50 Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, that's a very interesting area. There's a lot of reports that come out of that area, but I am going to go ahead and I've got a few people to check in with, but Willie, thank you for coming up and for sharing. Not a problem. We got Lux here and trying to get this individual on stage for quite a while. Then I will check in with your boy, Hey, can you hear me? Hey, Lux, I can hear you. Thanks for coming up. Do you mind if I potentially use this audio for my podcast?

15:37 Not at all. Not at all. It's really funny that his story is, there's a lot of similarities in the story I have. I lived in Oregon back in the early 2000s and I would go out to, within Portland, Oregon, I would. Go out to Estacada. It's It's based on a hood called the Bull of the Woods, a. Place called Bagby Hot Springs. I don't know if you are familiar with that area. There's a lot of records from Bagby, yep. Oh, man. I would go out there just kind of like for a sabbatical by myself, and I would have my girlfriend drop me off so I didn't have to park my car in the parking lot because they had a real bad problem with people breaking in and doing stupid stuff like that.

16:20 So you get there to the parking lot. There's a campsite there. Then you can hike in to where the springs are, and then it's about another mile, I guess, you're about three miles in. And I would go on the other side of the creek into this washout, so I would have like a sheer cliff to my back. So there's only really one way into my campsite. I just felt safe like that. And, well, I hadn't been out there in about a year or two. And when I got there, there was this German tree fungus or something that had eaten out the heart of all the old oaks. And so these microbursts came in and, man, just laid over all these trees. Well, my campsite now had this huge tree going all.

17:03 The way up to the top of the cliff. So if there was something on top of the cliff, it could just jump onto that tree and walk down it. Right into my campsite. Well, I had been out there for about three weeks. And the first night it happened, I heard like something stomping around in my campsite. And I could feel the shockwaves in my body. And I had a little torso blow-up, Matt. And the fauna, too, from all the trees that had fallen. It was real spongy. So I was thinking, man, whatever that is. It's big. And, you know, I was thinking elk or... maybe a bear or something. Um, didn't really think too much of it, but it woke me up in the night. So that was the first night. So the second night it happened and it kind of tooled around in my, uh, my campsite.

17:53 I could hear like, I don't know, just different things kind of being pilfered. Um, and all I had on me was a, a three inch Gerber diving knife. And I'm laying in this tiny little Kelty tent, this going on. And man, there's not a soul out there. It's the middle of the week, and there was just nobody. I was like, okay, well, I'm going to stay up until the sun comes up and pack my tent and get out of here. Well, I packed all my stuff, and I went to the springs to just soak or whatever. And lo and behold, these two really cute hippie girls come in, and they're like, oh, we're going to be camping here. Do you know of a good camp spot?

18:36 And so I was like, yeah, I know of a good camp spot. So I take them over and I show her where I was camping and stuff. And one thing led to another and one thing led to another. And, uh, we ended up drinking too much. And so I ended up pitching my 10 out there again, but it was a little bit of waste from theirs. Um, well that night I felt the shock waves happening again and something crashed over to the left side of me. Um, And it sounded big. I didn't know what it was. But this was getting... Whatever it was in my campsite was getting more aggressive. And as opposed to the prior two nights, I was just laying there in fear. And my head was in the corner of the tent. And I was just laying there. Well, something came up and palmed my head like it was a grapefruit or something.

19:33 I mean, the hand that went through my tent and touched my head... was massive, man, massive. It was the scariest thing that ever happened to me in my life. Well, the sun came up, I packed my stuff, and I went to the parking lot to try to hitch a ride back into Portland, because it was gonna be another week before my girl came and picked me up. And the ranger came and. Well, she picked me up and gave me a ride back to the highway, and I told her what happened. And man, it was like deadpan. She was like, oh yeah, we have a lot of Sasquatch sightings out here. Blah, blah, blah. But... Yeah, I literally think I was. Touched by my Bigfoot, man.

20:13 Lux, let me tell you something. Did you know that that road that goes through there, 224, and then down to Detroit Lake, that's actually called the Oregon Bigfoot Highway? Have you ever heard of that? I haven't heard of it. My friend sent me a picture just recently. The Forest Service has put up this warning people about the Sasquatches out there. Oh, really? No way, really? I would love. To see that. I have it on my phone here. I can send you a copy of it whenever I get off this. I'll just send it to your Actually, I'll put it on my profile and you can just do whatever you want to with it.

21:03 Okay. Yeah. Send me an email. It's bigfootsociety at gmail.com. I'd love to– if I have any questions about your encounter later, I'd love to be able to ask you those. But thank you for sharing. Bigfoot Society? Bigfootsociety at gmail.com. Yep. I'll send it to you. Hey, have a good one. Thank you. You too. Yeah, brother. Ooh, Bagby Hot Springs is a crazy hotspot in Oregon. All right. I'm going to see if your boy is still here. Steeners, hold on. I'm going to get to you next.

21:48 Okay, brother. Hey, thank you for being patient and coming up. What brings you up, man? Okay so of course um you know first of all um I think I might have like just tuned in once or twice it's one of those things uh kids are chilling out so I just sometimes you know listen. And get do some work uh on the computer whatever but um. A it's not like it's not like I'm not a non-believer but I pretty much I'm pretty sure that something is present in other places besides where we think they are let's put it like that right So right now, you know what I mean? Of course, I'm one of those people. I watch Expedition Bigfoot. I watch Expedition X.

22:34 You know what I'm saying? All the Bigfoot shows I do keep myself up on. I wanted to go to a conference because I live currently in Jacksonville, but I'm originally from South Carolina. And one of the things out here just in the norm is that, of course, you know, being African-American, you know, older African-American grandparents, whatever, when you go hunting, you go out fishing too long, whatever, it's getting dark. They tell you not to whistle alone. Right. They're just folklore. But anyway, um, my grandmother eventually moved back from New York to a place in South Carolina. I don't want to give like my little town out. Right. And she, she built her forever home. You know what I mean? And I love my grandma and I would go kick it with her.

23:18 We would do, you know, outdoor stuff. And then eventually my mom and father moved from New Jersey and lived there for the rest of their lives too. So they're still there. And the two houses are next to each other. And my mother would, you know, talk every once in a while and go, man, you know, I hate the fact that, you know, people are hunting on the property and you can hear them talking in the woods. And my dad, you know, they're New Yorkers. My dad would go, oh, your mother's crazy. You know, that type of stuff. And I was younger. So let's say I'm 20. I was 27. Maybe this might have been maybe like nine, eight years ago.

23:59 My grandmother had a stroke. So I moved in with her. I was taken care of her. But I was still relatively young. So I'm doing like the young guy thing. My grandma's OK. I go outside. I have a beer. I'm kicking it on the porch or whatever. In particular... My town had a really, really bad flood. Like an extremely bad flood. Half the town was cut off from electricity. So that end of town, we were cut off from everything except for Walmart or Winn-Dixie. And I don't know if you know anything about being in South Carolina. That's important. You know what I mean? So pretty much what happened was one of the reservoirs overflooded and they didn't do the release valve. So a lot of the fair and fauna were caught on one side of what's called the Edisto River. Now, if you know anything about South Carolina, I kind of just gave you a clue to where we're talking about. So what happened was this is somewhat close to September or August.

24:58 And the rain happened. It got cold to a degree. We're stuck in the house for like two days and I'm doing my normal thing. You know, my grandma's okay. She's asleep and I'm outside. I'm having, I'm enjoying a nice, you. Know, adult beverage. And just chilling out. And in South Carolina, if you're loud, you don't hear cicadas and all that other stuff. So I'm out there quiet. And it might be closer to 1.30, 2 o'clock in the morning. And because we've been there so long, the deer, if you know anything about deer in South Carolina, they just come out of the woods. But this was an unusual day because... there was an unusual amount of deer.

25:38 Like when I say unusual amount, there was a really weird amount of deer and they slowly started coming out of the field and out of the trees to just, you. Know, eat grass and they're kicking it. And I'm, I'm quiet. You know what I'm saying? I'm not making any noise. I'm not talking to anybody. And I could hear what I would. Assume would have been, you know, Footsteps, but I'm not paying any attention because I'm thinking, okay, it's the deer. I'm still doing my thing. I'm in my zone. I'm having a nice time. How can I describe it? As they begin to get closer, you can see the male. There's a male. It's a big one.

26:19 Once again, I don't know where they came from, but they're stuck because they can't go to the other side of the river because of the flood. There's a large male deer that I can see clearly in the field with the light. And it pops its head up. I don't know if you've ever gone deer hunting, but deer snort. And they do it for like a warning to each other. All of them pop their heads up that I can visually see and they take off. But what I can't see is that there's probably way more that I can't see in the darkness. Right? But no more than five or six seconds after that, the sound of. What sounds like a person in boots running through the field I could.

27:02 See the silhouette of what it looked like a man in a jumpsuit let's put it like that but not the average size man so now as I'm paying attention I'm tripping but you know I'm literally tripping but I'm you know I'm drinking a Michelob Ultra I have like my second one so I'm not drunk you know beer doesn't make you hallucinate but I know I saw what looked like a person take off across the field. The deer are gone. You know, they're running or whatever. And at this time, I'm standing still. I'm kind of, like, froze because I've been outside all day, you know, all evening by now, maybe, like, you know, for an hour or two hours. Who knows how long the deer and whatever it was have been outside, you know, possibly watching me while I'm, you know, doing my thing. But what caught me off guard was, you know, you never really hear deer make noise at all, right?

27:56 But, um. If you ever hit a deer with a car, you hear it bleep. You know what I mean? So less than two minutes after the little running happens, I hear one. And it's so loud because it's got to be somewhere in the darkness but not too close to the house. It's loud enough for me to know that either it got hit by a car or something caught it. So my mom, me, we all, you know, we got dogs. You know, it's just the country. You know, every once in a while, you know, a week later, maybe less than a week, We go and we walk the dog around the field, around the property line. And I haven't told them about this at this time.

28:37 My mom finds deer antlers in the field, closer to the tree line, maybe not too far off from the house. And my mom. Goes, all these damn hunters, they're always out here, even when the flood is happening. And I'm looking at it like, I don't think so because, you know, if you've ever gone hunting, that's something you keep. You keep the rack. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So in the end, I think what ended up happening was, and this is kind of the conclusion, like where my town is near the Edisto River is closer to another small town, which is still off the Edisto River. And they have a lot of chicken farms and pig farms, right?

29:20 Yeah. I looked this up on the BFR website. There had been a report that something had taken like a 600-pound pig during the same time period and picked it up over one of the fences and dropped it on its legs and broke the legs. But they don't know what would pick a pig up and throw it over a fence. You see what I'm saying? Oh my goodness yeah. But this was around maybe at least a month apart so my theory this is a theory that they probably they might have been moving you know what I'm saying but they got stuck during the flood and they were closer to where I live at which is not which is still the country which is still the country But they were just closer to where I lived.

30:02 And they was just probably just hunting anything. You know what I mean? Two, three o'clock in the morning, hungry. And they just tried to track some deer down, man. But unbeknownst to me, I just so happened to be standing outside at two in the morning, you know, just hanging out, just doing what, just doing country boy thing, man. Just hanging out there and enjoying the weather. But yeah, that one time it threw me off. I'm never, I'm not saying I'm never going to my grandma's house again. I love my grandma's house, but every time I go outside from now on, like I'm extremely aware, especially around two 33 o'clock in the morning, extremely aware. And I've heard howls out there. The dogs, the dogs only go crazy for certain animals. They don't bark at deer anymore. Raccoons, possums, that's normal. But when they start doing stuff two, three o'clock in the morning, I'm paying attention.

30:52 Absolutely. Oh my goodness. What a crazy, what a crazy wild story. How, how tall do, would you estimate what you saw was to be real? Um, like my dad is like six, four, you know what I mean? And, you know, we, I've seen him walk through the field in a distance. It was bigger than him from the back of my porch. So that's rather tall. You know what I mean? I don't want to, I don't want. To overestimate and overhype it, but it had to be bigger, closer around seven foot. But the whole, my whole thing is it happened. We found the antlers, you know, magic. Okay. Another, another random part of the story is over time, my grandmother.

31:34 Got aggressive dogs because she was older and she was worried about, you know, people burglarizing the house or something like that. A tree fell. I don't know if you know anything, you know, they say if a tree falls in the woods, there's somebody just around. Do you hear it? No, no other tree. I'm talking about, I'm 30 something years old right now. Never in my life has a tree fallen before. In that area, never. Magically, a tree falls. Guess where it falls? Into the dog pen. Oh, wow. Nobody saw it. But these were, my grandmother had like some chows. You know, I don't know if you know anything about dogs, but some really aggressive, loud barking, always agitated chows. And, you know, God bless his head, they're gone now. But yeah, but when they were there, they were going off one day and I was not at home, but I got the camera and And they're barking, but the tree falls. We can't see how the tree fell, nothing. So, yeah, it's kind of wild, man. It's kind of wild.

32:34 That's some wild stuff. What's that podcast? Oh, yeah, man. You guys can check us out. It's Rec Room Sports. We're actually on YouTube. If you type in Rec Room Sports, it's going to bring up, like, kids playing, guys playing video games. That's not one. Look for the black guy talking about sports. look for the black. Guys talking about sports we got the page on TikTok too and on Instagram so check us out man and of course I'm going to give you a follow too as well bro. Awesome thank you for coming up and for sharing that that was awesome. Yeah man they're in South Carolina but not just in Greenville. Alright we'll talk to you later yes sir hey Stan thanks for coming up how's it going give me one second I'll step outside absolutely How you doing? Good, good.

33:24 And yourself? I'm doing all right. Sorry, just give me a moment here. You hear me okay? Yes, sir. Awesome, awesome. So, I, um. I'm sorry, again, I'm at work right now, but I actually joined the Navy a little while ago, back in June of 24. And after boot, you go to the school for your rate or your MOS or whatever it's called for your branch, right?

34:16 After that, you get leave time. So me, deciding, because I had a crap ton. Of lead to use, I might as well go visit whatever family that I can, both in my home state and out of state, out of my home state. My uncle lives in Kansas. He has two properties. He has one just outside Kansas City, and he has one right down, like, coming toward the, like, the bare tip of, like, you know, Ash County, Kentucky, and those kinds of areas.

34:57 Or not Kentucky. I don't know. I don't know Kansas too well. But he has two properties. Yeah. His second one is beautiful. It's got trees galore, lots of different gullies and hills and all that jazz. And he's like, hey, so. I have this house and cause I went and visited him like my first couple of weeks of leave. He's like, Hey, I have this property. It's really pretty. I know you like the outdoors and there's this spot. He has about like, I think 120 acres of land out there. He's like, there's this spot.

35:40 On my lands. That I think would be really cool to like hike out to maybe camp if we decide to, but, He said, around this time, there's these big bucks. And he's like, if you want to go, like, take photos and whatnot. He wasn't really the hunting guy, hunting kind of type. And I didn't have any of my rifles or whatnot on me. So we weren't going to go hunting. But he was like, hey, like, why don't we just go sightsee? You know, like, hang out, chit chat, whatnot. I was like, oh, you know, sure. Why not? So we go there. This is, like, November 1st. It's like coming into the second week of November. So like around November, I think it was like 8th or 9th, right? And we get there, we hike in, gorgeous like he said. And we come to this, it's not like a clearing.

36:38 It's more of like, it was really strange. So he points out this. gully that the deer use has like a game trail right that's like their little highway and it's like if you sit here and wait for a while you can see this herd of deer moving through this little gully i was like all right shoot why not so i get my camera i'm doing my thing and sure enough these deer with these big old buck come strolling through And I just start snapping pictures, right? I mean, I'm trying to be slow with it because I don't want to scare him off, but I'm.

37:20 Like excited, right? Like I'm barely twitching my finger to get these photos. And we get the photos, we go, we camp out a little bit, nothing happens, right? Get home, get back to his place. I asked if I could use his laptop to download some of the pictures so I can start processing them, right? So I'm scrolling through, I started processing and some of the pictures that I took were a little blurry and I was like, oh, that's fixable, you know, um, just downscale up the resolution a little bit, maybe throw some negative on there, whatnot. Um, maybe give it a brighter palette. So I go to throw one, one of the pictures I, I took was of this big old, like six pointer.

38:10 Right. And the way I took it, cause we were laying down at the top part of this goalie, like. Right, right on that real little Ridge line. And the way I took it was aiming down in a cross to the next goalie, because the way that the terrain was set up, it was like kind of like steps. Right. And I'm processing this picture. And as I increase, as I go to downsize the photo and get the resolution up, I'm like, what is that? And my uncle strolls by. He's like, what are you looking at? And I point to this really, it was weird.

39:01 The middle of it was super dark. But around, I'm looking at this shape, right? It's like kind of, it's not exactly peeking out from a tree, but it's, it's tight. So if you were to like stand with half your body behind a tree and just stand there and look straight down or where, what I was trying to capture, that's what it looked like he was doing. So like you could see a leg, you could see an arm, you could see like a good portion of its head, but there, there were no like features in the photo. Right. And the weird part was the more I increased the contrast, the more you could see the fringes of its hair coming off its shoulder and its head and its arm.

39:50 Like it had this really long, like kind of, kind of like a rust colored kind of hair. And it just so happened that the actual like body of it was solid enough to where the light wasn't bouncing and it appeared darker. And so I'm like, what on earth is that? And my uncle being just like me, Looks at me and goes, I don't know. You want to go check it out? I was like, sure. So we go back out a few days later to check that spot. And I kid you not, there is a bed of pine needles and trash and branches and.

40:43 Sticks and whatnot. And it looks like this bed of Just random forest stuff, essentially. That's the best way I can describe it. Kind of like how birds make their nest, right? They just pick up whatever they can and they throw that in there and hope it works. It had been matted down. Like, you know how you matt down a quilt to get it to set? Literally, just like that. You could kind of pick up and point out the outline of hands, right? Around the edge of this bed of stuff. And in the middle, there is a perfect indent of, like, someone sleeping on their side. And I was like, oh, that's weird. So we look around a little while more, and we end up coming on these tracks, and dude, these things were massive.

41:45 Like, I don't have very big feet, right? Like I wear a size nine and a half shoe. It's not that big. My uncle is like six foot, six foot one. He wears a. Size 13 shoe and it was twice the size of his shoe. He's like, he's not perfect because the tracks themselves were a little worn, but you can still make out each individual toe. Of these tracks And these tracks had like. It was strange So it had a big toe And a pinky toe And it was like The middle three toes Were fused together On it's right foot On it's left foot It had five toes.

42:40 Wow, this was in Kansas? This is out in Kansas, yes Kansas City, or do you say it was somewhere else? No, this is his second property down in Southern Florida. I can't... Forgive me, I can't remember the name of the city it was in or the town. It was in, but it was. It's like 10 or so miles southeast of. Maine, Kansas City. Gotcha. Wow, that's wild. Oh, man. So, we go back. I. and bereft that I did not take any pictures of like the footprints and a little like matted down bed.

43:24 Um, back. And we start looking through the other pictures and in the other pictures, you can see this thing making its way to that tree. And it's like, we had no, that's, that's the scary part, man. Like, it was huge and it was right there, but we had no idea that it was walking up with these deer. We had not a clue. Wow. Do you still have those pictures? I, if I do, they're in, they're in Kansas. Right.

44:05 Um, I can have my uncle mail them to me and I can throw them on a flash drive and send them to you at some point. But yeah, they're over there with him. He was, um, I had a lead to go back to my home state and he was, he was telling me he was. Going to help finish processing them. So I'll get in contact with him, see what he says, but I'll definitely see what I can do to get them shipped to where I'm at and I'll get them to you if you want them. Yeah. And I've also got an email if that would make things easier, uh, bigfootsocietyatgmail.com. But, uh, yeah, whatever, uh, you guys, whatever's easiest for you, that would be very interesting to see those.

44:49 Yeah, no, of course. I'll see what he says. I'll keep you updated if you want. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you for sharing what you experienced there. Yeah, no, of course. It was just, you know, I haven't, I've heard some weird things in the woods. I've seen some weird things. I never had something like that happen where I, I never knew, right? There was no indication. Anywho, I got to get back at it. So I'll go ahead and let you go. All right, Stan. Thank you. That's what I want to share. Yeah, of course. Hey, Lily, how's it going? What brings you up, Lily?

45:30 Well, I had a unique experience in North Dakota. It was around 2004, I think. Anyway. One of my now late husband, one of his nephews came running through the door and he said, you guys wouldn't believe it. I just saw a big foot. And of course, nobody said anything. And his eyes were huge. And the boy stood about six foot four. And he said that the shoulder went right by the window where he was sitting and it was taller than the window.

46:11 And so, of course, he went out to see what the heck. And he and about three other guys chased it. And there were no trees around, just a wheat field out there. And they chased it into the wheat field, and it just literally vanished into thin air. So, there were no trees around, no hills, nothing. It was flat. So... There's a unique one. I do believe they're out there. I'm in the Pacific Northwest right now. And I can tell you, yes, they're definitely out here too. And there's some local guys that have a Bigfoot hunting deal going on.

47:04 I guess they were on TV with it. So one of the Bigfoot hunter TV shows. So, but yeah, I hear there's a family of them living just over the hill from me. And all I told him was leave him alone. Let him be. What are you able to share? Like, what are you in Washington or Oregon? I'm over in Washington state. Okay, cool, cool. Yeah, there's crazy stuff that happens over there. It's wild. And like you said, as thick as these forests are out here and being on the backside of the Rockies, oh, yeah, it'd be easy for them to hide out here in plain sight because there was a sighting about three miles away from me and two drivers, one going one way, one going the other way, startled because it ran between both vehicles across the road.

48:05 So both drivers even saw it. And the gal whose house was in that area was not even an eighth of a mile from the sighting. So we were suspicious maybe it was coming over to see her. And we were trying to prepare her in case she encountered it at night outside. Because I found out they tend to be more drawn to communicate with females. Absolutely. And I can see why, because we're less of a threat. Sure, yeah.

48:47 Whereas males, yeah, I see why there's anxiety there, why. They would run. But my late husband had family, and they said, Back in the day, they used to come and bring medicine to the native people for whatever illness somebody had. And they would bring the plant to them and tell them what part of the body it was for. Amazing. What makes you think that there's a family right over, you said, the side of the hill or mountain where you live? A mountain to my east, and there's a ski slope up there as well. But the guys that are the local Bigfoot people here in town, they were the ones that announced that they found where they were living. And all of us told them, leave them alone.

49:40 Don't bother them. Leave him alone. Yeah. Exactly. It's like, you know, just let him be. You have no reason to bother him. Leave him alone. So, so far as far as we know, they have. That's great. What would you do if you, if you, uh, came upon one out in the woods out there? You know, I grew up playing out in the woods and I had a lot of encounters with animals. Okay. Um, Interesting that I didn't have an actual encounter with a Bigfoot. But my understanding, like Connie Willis from Coast to Coast said, it's like mental telepathy. And I believe that.

50:22 I believe that's exactly what it is with them. That they're not going to talk to you, talk to you, but that they do that mind to mind. So I do believe that that's another reason to they feel more comfortable with females. We're not going to do anything violent towards them. So they know that. And I think that's why a lot of the indigenous women. that I heard stories about, many, many stories, about how they came to this one's grandmother, that one's mother, and would bring them medicine to cure something that was wrong with somebody.

51:04 And it was a plant. So, you know, they were good. They were benevolent. There was no negativity about them. So. Do you think you've had a telepathy experience yourself at all? Well, before the nephew came in the day that he did, the night before that, I remember all of a sudden my cats ran into the room and ran under the bed, which I thought was weird. And then all of a sudden the lights went out and I thought the kids were playing a prank. And I told them, turn the breaker back on, turn the lights on. And they said, we can't, everything's off, everything, the whole town's black. And I got up and looked out the window and they weren't kidding. There was no light out there anywhere. And I just remember everybody saying they could smell something really, really rotten. And my hair on the, my body just stood on end. And I told the boys to come in the house and shut the door, lock it, and don't look outside. Shut the curtains. I said, because, man, there's something out there. I said, the cats even ran and hid under the bed. So I took that as, that's not a good sign. And just when my hair went up like that, it was like, ooh, yeah, and then that smell.

52:36 And nobody knew what it was. Well, we later found out. But it wasn't the first time up in that same area, apparently, that they had had sightings of a Bigfoot. At least I know it went back about 60 to 70 years that people were telling me stories from before they passed away. The elderly. Oh, my gosh. You know, so, yeah, they told me their personal experiences. Yeah. Same thing with little people. Same thing. They would come out of the bushes at night and bring plants for healing. But nobody ever saw really any kind of UFO activity connected with that. And it seems like there's a lot in the Pacific Northwest. Bigfoot sightings and UFOs seem to kind of go hand in hand.

53:36 So. Mind you, I haven't seen anybody yet, but I've seen a lot of weird things in the sky. Doing a lot of weird things. Lily, you are a delight to talk to. Thank you for coming up. I'm going to make sure that I'm following you. Thank you so much. Let us know if you have any other interesting things happen in the future. I'll certainly do that. Thank you for giving me a platform to share my knowledge about it, even though it's limited. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for coming up. All right. Have a good night. Hey, we got Roger.

54:20 Hey, Roger. Thanks for coming up. Yeah. What's going on, man? Yeah. I, uh, well, kind of like the last couple of people, I don't actually never actually had an experience. I live in central Texas, but, um, According to my parents, supposedly, they had, I'm not sure what it was, and they aren't either, but back in, I want to say it was like 1959, my mom was about 18. My mom and dad had just gotten married, and them and my uncle were way up in this, there's a lake near my house, it's called Lake Whitney, and they were way back up in there, and back then, that lake wasn't developed.

55:02 They were way up in. King Creek, and they were running trot lines, and they could hear something up above them, which this is a canyon lake. It's all cliffs. And, you know, it was making noises and grunting, and they could hear heavy breathing, and they could hear it moving around on the rocks. Well, my uncle was about 14, and he started getting scared, so they tried to calm him down and say, oh, it's just somebody's bull up there. Well, it's a rock cliff. Why would a bull be there? And if it was a bear, which there used to be bears in. Texas, not so much anymore. I mean, we have a few in West Texas and a few in deep East Texas.

55:42 But if it was a bear, you might hear it breathing or grunting, but you're not going to hear it walking around with the feet it's got. You're definitely not going to hear a big cat, which would have been the other alternative. So that really didn't leave a whole lot else. But I've been a, oh man, I've been a fanatic, I guess, since I was a kid, probably, what, 73, Legend of Boggy. Creek, 72, 73. Oh, wow, so yeah, that's quite a while. Yeah, that movie, I was like five years old when that movie came out, and right at the scene where the arm comes through the window, my brother had already seen it, and he was sitting right behind me, so he grabbed me, scared the crap out of me, and And for about six months after that, I would not go in my bathroom after dark without somebody checking the backyard.

56:38 Oh, that is funny. Wow. I had 140 pound German shepherd wolf hybrid back there that wouldn't let anybody in that yard that didn't belong. And it was just hilarious. But like even the thumbnail on my YouTube channel is a. Sketch of a Bigfoot face. That I hand-drew several years ago, but it was just something that just came to me, kind of. But there used to be reports. There's another lake about, well, the actual original lake is about 70 miles east of me, but they built a new lake over the old lake, and it was Lake Corsicana. And supposedly back in like the 50s and 60s, there were a few Bigfoot or wild man reports over there. And then, of course, everybody's heard of the Lake Worth monster. That's only about 90 to 100 miles north of me. So it was like I said, I'm right in the heart of Texas, central Texas.

57:44 I'm about halfway between Dallas and Austin. So, you know, we get the East Texas reports all the time. Absolutely. Have you checked out Lyle Blackburn's Texas Bigfoot book yet? I haven't read the book, but I have seen a lot of his videos and documentaries. And I was actually supposed to get to go to the South Texas, the Bigfoot conference down there. And that was the year that COVID hit. And I didn't end up getting to go and I was going to go. I wanted to go so bad because, uh, Bobo and, and, uh, Cliff were supposed to be there.

58:28 Lyle Blackburn was going to be there. Um, there were several and I just, I was dying to go. Um, the other one, the, uh, not, not Dr. Meldrum, the, the other footprint expert that's from Conroe. Uh, he was going to be there. He was a, uh, A forensics footprint detective that did some work on some of the documentaries. Oh, is it Jimmy Chilcott? Maybe. I agree with. What the lady was saying a while ago. You need to go live more often. I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it loud and clear. Yeah, definitely. I will definitely try to to do that i'm curious who this conroe guy.

59:12 Is i was uh scrolling through tiktok and saw yours at the same time i was flipping through youtube looking for a new documentary that i haven't seen there. You go all right i'm gonna talk to mr big truck here Oh, we got a double connect. Hello. Hey Sybil. All right. This, this could be fun. Uh, Sybil, how's it going? So I big truck, I'll be right with you, man. Um, Sybil, uh, I saw you've had some, you've heard some stuff in Northern California. Yeah. So I'm from Eureka, California, which is Humboldt County. I just recently moved out of the area, but I grew up there and I, I worked, um, on the native American reservations with, uh, kids with like autism and ADHD and the reservation Humboldt County is where the, um, Patterson film was done. The famous one. So I worked mainly out in Hoopa, which is by Willow Creek. Hoopa is I think about a half an hour from bluff Creek.

1:00:26 which is where that film was done. And I actually had a client in bluff Creek before too. Um, but the tribes out there, they like there's Yurok and there's Hoopa and there's Karuk too, but I am not as familiar with that one, but they're, they're kind of, they all intermingle. And so they would get together for, um, ceremonial dances and, um, they have stories that basically talk about how the Bigfoot were a people and they used to come to their dances too. But then a girl was taken and they were basically banished from the dances.

1:01:14 And if you're familiar with that area at all, like I think some people don't realize how much wilderness is out there. There's thousands and thousands of acres of land that no one goes to. Absolutely. Ever. You know, there's people how, you know, like they heard tree knocking and things were thrown. One of my uncles used to work as he worked as a logger. And so they would be out logging and they had like 50 gallon oil drums and they would come back to the logging sites. And the oil drums would be thrown around the logging site, just tossed around. And so I think that people like, especially when they think of California, they think of it as being really populated, but it's not.

1:02:09 And the terrain can be so rugged that you can't get. To certain places. Even on horses, it's hard to get to certain places. So, You know, like I really do think that there could be something out there that could survive because there are, there's black bears all over the place in California and they're fairly big creatures and they have no problem surviving. So the idea that something huge is out there, I think is definitely possible, but the native tribes, they, they have stories about it and they're convinced that this is a real thing that's been around for, Since the beginning.

1:02:51 Oh, absolutely. And even reports of trading, certain tribes trading with them in years past. But, yeah, I mean, if you keep me in mind, if you run into interesting things in your area in the future, you're right in the middle of it. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely... There are a lot of people that live out there. They'll go hunting and they don't go out without a pew-pew because it's just, you know, almost everyone's had some kind of scary experience when they go out to the wilderness. Absolutely. But I haven't had any personal experiences of Bigfoot, but I've just heard stories and I'm aware of how remote certain places are. And I think that if they don't want to be seen... They're not seeing. I mean, I lived out there for so long and was in the wilderness and there's mountain lions all over the place. They even will get caught on cameras at people's houses in Eureka in the city. But I never saw a mountain lion. So, you know, animals have a way of being unseen if they don't want.

1:04:05 To be seen. Absolutely. Well, yeah, I appreciate you coming up and chatting for a little bit. It kind of Was hoping you'd just come up when I invited you, but I appreciate you. I'm going to check in with Big Truck here. But, yeah, thank you so much for coming up. You're welcome. All right, Mr. Big Truck, how's it going? Oh, it's going great, brother. I'm just so glad I fell upon your. Live right now. I was born and raised in Sacramento, California. Sure, sure. I did a lot of work up in the northern part of North Pacific in California.

1:04:51 I was in a place called Round Valley with my father. And I was seven years old, so this was back in 1982. We were around a fishing tribe of, I'm not, I don't want to misrepresent the Native Americans that were there. I don't. I don't really know the tribe that was there. I don't want to misrepresent them, but, um, we were sitting around the campfire. It was about eight o'clock at night. And they were telling the stories of what Sybil just said of how there were gatherings and everything was great until something went sour.

1:05:37 I didn't feel anything weird that night. I didn't feel it. We were in one of those, um, I want to say it was probably a 1970s. Camper, you know, where if you're standing on the ground, the, the little, um, frosted glass windows, probably about eight or nine feet off the ground, you know? So everybody went to their trailers and my dad and I were sitting there and I laid down in the bed. My dad said, go to sleep. You know, I was, I think I was, I was probably, I was seven years old. So, uh, he said, go to sleep. And the campfire was still going, so I was able to see the glow through that frosted glass. And all of a sudden, our camper started rocking. Started rocking.

1:06:21 Started rocking. I could see a hand on the glass. My dad stepped outside with his shotgun, opened the door, and immediately closed it and said, go to bed. To this day, he won't tell me. what he saw or what it was. But this hand completely covered the... I want to say it was probably a 9-inch high by 12-inch wide window. It covered it. It covered it completely. My goodness, that's wild. I just want to agree with Sybil that.

1:07:06 Northern California is so. Uncharted and it's so unremote that who knows what could be out there and I believe that this was what brought the memory back when she said that well I had a different story that I was going to tell about Tennessee where I currently live but when she mentioned that and about the tribes describing their their gatherings and a girl being stolen, it just brought that complete memory back. So I just want to thank Sybil for bringing that up and releasing my memory. But I just recently moved to Tennessee. I'm about 19 miles from the Kentucky border in a place called Jamestown, Tennessee. We have a population of 1,800. I'm traveling the country right now in a mobile home Well, travel trailer. I did not believe that there were creatures outside of California until I lived here.

1:08:19 We can step outside of our trailer, my wife and I, well, my girlfriend and I, and hear sounds that do not equate to coyotes. Wolves, bears. You can whistle and you'll get a whistle back from our woods oh yeah it's pretty intense and i i'm just so happy that i fell. Upon your your life i just really appreciate it. Well thank you i appreciate you coming up I mean, yeah, your area, Tennessee, you're close to some weird, weird areas.

1:09:01 I mean, Frozen Head is weird. I mean, pretty much any state park or forest area or WMA out where you're at is crazy for Bigfoot. Do you know where Jamestown is? I'm looking at it on a map. Yeah, it's over by like Big South floor, kind of. Yes, Upper Cumberland Plateau. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. I've traveled into Kentucky. I'm only 19 miles from the Kentucky border. I've traveled into Kentucky late at night because we have one of these spots over here called Pickett Park. Yep. And it's one of the darkest regions in the United States.

1:09:42 It's where a lot of astronomers come and do their stuff. And the sounds that we hear out here are almost deafening. They're almost. Where they can, they almost freeze your body when they growl. Oh, wow. It's, I think that they've said. That like lions or tigers have that type of effect where they can do a low rumble and they can kind of. Stop a prey in their tracks. Yep, infrasound. Mm-hmm. And I believe that they do that just so they can get away almost like we're getting too close so they can let out that rumble and they could disappear without us seeing them, you know?

1:10:35 Absolutely. Yeah. That's, that's, uh, definitely one of the, the ways it's used. Sometimes it's used to freeze prey, you know, with some animals we'll, we'll do that. But, uh, It is a very interesting thing when you hear of people that are like, I can't move, you know, that, that weirds you out. It's, it's a, it's a frightening thing when you feel like you're frozen for us, just for a split second, you know, it's a frightening thing. And I, you know, I watch a ton of national geographic. I watch a ton of. That stuff, but, and you know, so I think the infrasound, yeah, that's the right word that you use for the lions and the tigers, but, When you're out in the middle of nowhere and it's pitch black, one of the seven darkest places in the United States, and you feel this vibration inside your body, almost like you go home and you analyze it and you talk to your old lady, my girlfriend, and you go, do you think Well, I know there's no lions and tigers here, but did you feel that? I felt frozen for a second or two.

1:11:50 I don't know how long it was, but I know I felt frozen. It's a pretty crazy feeling to have that experience in Northern California, but also have it out here in Northeastern Tennessee. Oh, absolutely. And you're in. You're in the thick of it out there. Thank you, Big Truck, for coming up. Keep me in mind if you keep running into weird stuff out there. Oh, yeah, definitely. I'm going to go ahead and subscribe to your. Well, thanks for coming up and chatting, man.

1:12:32 I appreciate you, and thank you very much. Yes, sir. Hey, Blue, thanks for coming up. What happened out in Washington? So it happened when I was younger. Um, we lived in Chehalis, Washington out in the woods. It was like, uh, I don't know, we had like probably 40 acres of land and in front of our house to the, like, by the road, there was a huge garden. It was probably an acre. And my dad had a fence around it, you know, cause of the deer and everything. and it had a couple latches on the door going into the garden because.

1:13:19 The stuff inside the garden kept going missing. And so we had a couple encounters. I'll explain them. When we went down to the river to go fishing with my dad and We were all just, I have eight siblings, and we were all running around making a lot of noise and playing by the river. My dad was in the middle of the river fishing. And all of a sudden, everything went quiet. All the birds quit. We just couldn't hear anything. It was really eerie at that point. That was the very first time we felt it. Um, my dad just turned to my mom and said, Hey, Max gathered the kids. We got to go back up to the house right away.

1:14:12 And we did. And my dad was really freaked out and he didn't go back to get the rest of the pigment stuff till the next day. And, um, but the ongoing thing was, um, the garden and it, like my dad would get mad at us kids and say, you guys, I keep putting more latches on there. because you kids keep getting into garden, leaving the garden door open. And, and so like with the garden, the picket was right under my bedroom window. And when my dad went out to turn on the water, I could see from like his shoulders up. And, and then when I could, and my bedroom was next to there.

1:14:58 So when they would go to sleep at night, my dad would go out and shut off the water. And this one night I heard. Stuff outside and I knew that my parents were still watching TV. So I got up and stood on my bed and I looked and I thought what I saw was a man coming out of the garden loaded up with tomatoes mostly. And I think he had other stuff. I just remembered the tomatoes because my mom would always say, you kids pick the tomatoes right when they're ripe. And, and, and.

1:15:39 He left the gate open. And I thought it was maybe my dad. I was like, Oh dad, you are the one leaving the gate open. But it was really weird because it's like, he, he knew that I saw him. And so he started walking towards my window and the closer he got that the better I could see him. And, um, The best I can, like, explain him is his fur. Was, like, maybe it wasn't really, really brown or hair, I should say. It was more kind of a cinnamony color. And I remember his eyes were super green. Like, the closer he got, the more I focused on his eyes. He didn't have a lot of fur on his face or anything like that.

1:16:31 And he got pretty close to the window before it even like occurred to me to scream or let my parents know. And so finally I yelled for my dad and he just looked at me through the window, like really nonchalant, like no aggression at all. And he just turned and walked slowly away. But by the time my dad got there, he was gone. And I told my dad, he was like, Oh, Sal. And, um, so then, um, the next day I was very insistent on it, that he go out there and, and, and look and shirt and he goes, yep, the garden gates open. But then we went by the spigot and there was a footprint.

1:17:22 And, um, And so, like, we all got excited. The neighbors came over and we're all looking at the footprint. And some guy made a cast of the footprint. And then from that point on, it kind of spread around town. And we had a lot of people come out in our little, like, area looking for Bigfoot. But the weird thing is, is once I start telling this story on TikTok, because it's on my page, I started asking my brothers and sisters what they remembered about it. And it was really weird that all of my brothers and sisters felt like that there was a family that lived around us.

1:18:18 And when we, we were very feral children and we'd always be outside playing and And when we heard like it get quiet, it was like a cue to know to go home. We weren't scared by it. I asked every one of my brothers and sisters and they said, no, they were never scared by it. And they never felt like. Bigfoot was like aggressive, but we all felt him or the family we think around us and, you know, and all, they still took stuff from our garden. Not as much. Because we had all the Bigfoot people around just going through the property.

1:19:00 But I just, I just, that's it. Unless they've got questions. And is that the actual town, Chehalis, or is that the reservation? So we were outside of Chehalis. Like I said, we had like 30 or 40 acres, but it was near Chehalis. Yeah. When you had the one looking in your window, how old were you again? I was 13 or 14. Okay. Yeah, that's a pretty common thread as well. That's really interesting.

1:19:45 What do you mean? I get a lot of reports from females where there was one that was like looking through my window and it's about that same age. It's very I don't know if it's just like a curiosity thing or what, but it's always around that age. It's very weird. That is weird. Yeah. So were you close enough then to see features of the face? Absolutely. He stood there and looked at me, and I looked at him for quite a while. I mean, they couldn't tell you how long.

1:20:29 Do you remember anything about? anything you noticed about the eyes at all. That they were super green like green green like aqua green beautiful green I remember that I was just his eyes brought me in more than like the rest of his face he I didn't feel like he had like really over pronounced eyebrows they kind of his face looked Pretty, like, not so much like a monkey like what you have on the screen. It was more like a man's face.

1:21:12 Absolutely. And then there was no fur around his eyes or his nose or his cheeks. I don't remember any. I remember thinking it was just really thick skin. Were the entire eyes green or were there whites to the eyes as well? Oh, no, there were whites. Okay, interesting. What kind of, how would you describe the nose that it had? Kind of flat-ish. I am trying to think of any.

1:21:57 thing to describe anything i've seen any dogs or anything i i i i haven't seen anything like that because like um whenever i look at monkey photos like a lot of people compare them to monkeys it didn't look like that to me um okay look look more like a smashed nose. Interesting. So definitely not like a gorilla's nose would look like. No, not like what you have on the picture right there. Right, right. But not especially like a human nose either, it sounds like.

1:22:38 No, not a human nose either. It was flatter and the skin was thicker. Okay. You can tell it left a big. Imprint on me because I can remember it like it was yesterday. Were you able to see the teeth at all? Nope. He kept his mouth shut the whole time. He just had his arms full of goodies and he didn't, yeah, he didn't open his mouth. And like I said, he didn't show any aggression and, And we all, all of my brothers and sisters and I felt like they were very intelligent because they could undo those locks on the gate to the garden. And there were other things around that just, we kind of felt like they looked out for us a little bit.

1:23:41 Absolutely. Is it something where you would ever want to look at something like that again? Oh, yeah. In college, I had an anthropology professor and I told him about it because he would go and take his summers and go hunt for Bigfoot. And, you know, he had all kinds of ideas. And if I could have taken one of my summers, I had to pay for my own college. So I had to work. But if I could have, he would have taken me with him and I would have loved to go and hunt. and go and do the stuff he did, go camp out and look for them.

1:24:22 Was that Dr. Krantz? No. No? No. Interesting. I'm trying to think of if I know who that would be. He was just an anthropology teacher at Utah State where I went to college. Oh, is it Dr. Meldrum? Yes. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. You know him. He's a pretty big deal in the Bigfoot community. And yeah, if you say anthropologist and Bigfoot, it's probably Dr. Meldrum. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that would have been, was that 90s?

1:25:04 Yes. Wow. Okay. So man, so he had just the mustache at that point. Like he had a pretty good mustache. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a beard now. That's so cool. You know him. Yeah, I'm a big nerd for this stuff. So, man, that's too bad. You would have been involved with some pretty wild stuff. The stuff that Meldrum was doing in the 90s. He went on some crazy, crazy stuff, like out in the Siskiyous of California. Yeah. He got involved with some wild things. But, hey. That's, that's how life is, you know?

1:25:45 I know. Darn it. Yeah. I'm going to stop big time. You still had some, I mean, more amazing things happen to you than will ever happen probably to the rest of us. Like just being able to see that through the window. Yeah. Is incredible. I talked, I talked to somebody else and they were like, well, did you believe in Bigfoot before? And I was like, You know, I just never really thought about if I believed him or not. And then I saw him. So, yeah, then I believed. There you go. That would definitely do it. You know, it has been really fun to talk to you. My stuff is almost completely drained battery-wise. Do you mind sending me an email at bigfootsociety at gmail.com in case I have any other questions for you?

1:26:39 Sure. Cool. Awesome. Thank you. So let's say that again. It's just Bigfoot Society. Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Yep. Got it. Cool. Thank you for chatting today. Yeah. Anytime. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own, I would love to hear from you. You can send me an email with your encounter information. at bigfootsociety at gmail.com. I've come out with a free report about the top 10 Bigfoot hotspots. You can go over to bit.ly forward slash BFS report. I'm Jeremiah Byron. Thanks for listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you In the woods.