July 7, 2026

DEER-CARRYING BIGFOOT TERRIFIES LOGGERS IN SOUTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA

DEER-CARRYING BIGFOOT TERRIFIES LOGGERS IN SOUTHEASTERN NORTH CAROLINA
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A towering creature carrying a deer across a logging road. Violent howls echoing through a North Carolina swamp. A silent figure watching campers from the tree line in Michigan. Trail camera photos capturing a massive Bigfoot deep in the forests of northern Vermont.


Episode 1149 brings together three firsthand witnesses whose experiences span decades and hundreds of miles. Logging crews, hunters, campers, and longtime investigators describe encounters involving visual sightings, powerful vocalizations, tree knocks, tracks, mysterious behavior, and moments that changed the way they see the wilderness.


Locations featured include southeastern North Carolina, Port Huron State Game Area, Tomahawk Creek, Luzerne, Roscommon County, Manistee National Forest, and northern Vermont.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you, hey, Andrew, How are you?

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I'm pretty good? How are you hey?

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Doing good?

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Feel free to share what's going on man.

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So they started in.

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There's been multiple different times we've encountered it, kind of

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in the same type areas. There was one it was

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in my dad's a forester, so he does a lot

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with the logging cruise, and one time it's one of

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his most trusted logging crews was logging on one of

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the tracks actually near my house, and uh, I live

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on a lake, a private lake that has a bunch

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of swamps that come off of it. And they were

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logging near one of those swamps. And they said one

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of them was in the skinner, which is about a

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nine and a half foot tall piece of equipment, and

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another guy was in the logging truck who was bringing

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the logs in and out. He was standing outside of

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his truck. And then the service guy was standing outside

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of his truck and they heard a.

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Deer moaning like it was getting killed. It was in pain.

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And then the next thing they know, it walks across

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the logging road. It's about a nine and a half

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foot tall creature full of hair, and he's holding the

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deer up under his arm. And they didn't know. They

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froze one guy. Actually, uh, he won't even speak about

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it anymore. He told us the story one time. Don't

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even like talking about it. It scared him to have

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to death. And they they went over there, they found blood.

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They tried to record, but they couldn't.

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He was he he.

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Couldn't even get his phone out and hit the camera

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because he was shaking so bad. And they said, uh,

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they went over there and found blood, and but they

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never could find his tracks. And he took two steps

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across the whole logging road, which is which is a

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big road, and it's bigger than it's bigger than the

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average dirt road, and he took two steps and he

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was across it. And they wouldn't go back over there

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and log anymore for a few months.

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They left. They were that scared.

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And then I was squirrel hunting in February and that

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happened in January.

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I was hunting February, and uh, I.

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Had my GoPro on and I was walking down this

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road going to get into some horrible it's near near

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the same swamp. And I didn't think nothing about it.

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I thought maybe they were just you know, maybe they

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were just crazy or something. And I walked down this

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road and then I heard it for myself. I heard

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it hollering, and I just kind of froze.

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And was like, what is that? And I heard it.

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It started tree knocking and hitting.

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Trees and banging on it, and I was like, old crap,

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and did it for about three minutes to sit there

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and hollered and hit on trees and stuff, and it

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was like an aggressive howl and growl at the same time.

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It was crazy. And then I instantly got up and

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I left. I got my truck and went home, and

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I didn't speak about it for a while till my

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dad was actually going through some of the go pro

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footage from turkey hunting and he saw it and he

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was like, that's pretty serious, don't you think He's like,

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what was that.

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I was like, I don't know.

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I said it was loud and it was beating on stuff,

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and I said, probably Bigfoot, just joking around. And Dad

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was like, well, you know, that's right where the logger

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said they saw him. And I was like, for real

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and he was like yeah. And then I was talking

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to one of the loggers two months ago.

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I was talking to one of the ones who had

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seen him, and he said that.

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Two other guys that they had talked to that were

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actually neighbors where they were logging, had seen them too,

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and he was walking up a dirt road dragging a

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deer behind him, and then one of them saw him

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walking down in the swamp, and uh, it was crazy.

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It scared me haf to death when I heard it,

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and it was probably it was probably one hundred and

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fifty yards from me down in the swamp when I

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heard it, and uh, everything in the woods got quiet.

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There want no birds, birds chirping and flying squirrels running around.

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They everything got quiet and didn't move when it was hollering,

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and it was It was pretty crazy and my dad.

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Another story with the same experience was I was down

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here with some of the guys putting roofing on our

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barns out here at the house, and I was telling

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them and one of them was like, nah, that's that's

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that's a joke.

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I showed them the video. There were three of them.

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I showed them a video and they all.

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Froze in fear. And one guy said, I never really

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told nobody this. Me and my family were fishing the river,

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which is right near my house as well. It feeds

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out of my lake, and he said, we heard the

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same exact sound right at dark.

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He said they were deer around us and everything.

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He said, everything took off running and everything got quiet

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as well, and I said, that's the same experience I had.

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He said he was closed too. He said, he said

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we were in and we ain't come back since. And

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that was a year and a half ago. I mean,

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we've heard it multiple times and they've seen it. I

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hadn't been back over when I saw it or heard.

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It, and I give us some wild stuff. Thank you

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for sharing. Are you able to share, maybe not specifics

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so that you don't give away where you're living, but

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any details about what part of the country this lives.

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I'm in Southeast North Carolina. Okay, southeast North Carolina.

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Yeah, I did not expect that. Wow.

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Yeah, when you look at like maps and stuff, everybody's

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like because I like, we thought, yeah, we thought it

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was a joke kind of at the beginning, like somebody

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was just messing with us. And my dad was like, nah,

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I'm not playing this is this is I'm serious. I

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don't know what this is. And and then one guy was,

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that's definitely bigfoot. And when that dude, when that logger

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heard that, he insddenly started telling us about it. And

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one of my dad's friends that works with him was like,

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this cannot be real, Like this ain't real. And one

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dude said, and you don't think it's real to you

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see it? He said, I've never seen anything like that

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before in my life. He said, I literally peed my pants.

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I was like, oh my, that's a grown man, by

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the way.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean for a grown man to

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to admit that, I mean that means something for sure.

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Have Do you have the this video on on YouTube

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channel or anything or just something you have.

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No, I've kept it private. I only have it on

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I have it on my camera roll where.

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I actually scream recorded it off my go bro I

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screen reported it. So yeah, I have it on my

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uh my phone. I haven't posted it anywhere. I just

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show it to certain people who we talk about it

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with and see what they think. And everybody said that

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ain't something that they normally hear it. That's something differently,

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something definitely that shouldn't be there.

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It's something big. It's something loud, and it's.

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Something when everything in the woods gets quiet when you

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when it collars, everything in the woods got quiet.

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Absolutely, I'm not gonna say it's it's that's a part

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of the US I don't hear a lot about. But

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I have heard from some marines.

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Uh what was that.

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It's a training center over there at Camp Geiger. Yep,

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maybe I heard some stuff over there on the east

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side of North Carolina. But that's wild man. Thank you

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for coming up and for sharing. If you ever want

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to share anything else, my email is Bigfoot societyt gmail

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dot com.

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You feel free to reach out.

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Man, all right, I appreciate it. Thank you for letting

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me share.

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Thank you, Thank you too. How are you good? How

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you doing? Can you hear me? Yes? I can hear

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you good.

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Feel free to share what you would like to sir.

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All right. Well, I ain't been on in a while,

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I think.

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So.

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The last thing that happened I was in up at

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it's called Tomahawk Creek flooding. It was like a year ago,

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and then there was a bad ice storm. We had

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to cut our way in. We were going kayak and

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I had my kid and my brother with me, and

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then I'm like, man, we got to get out there

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because it was like a week before camping season started.

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Like we're going to have the best chance if we're

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the only ones out here, because I think that we

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know how they like to watch the campers, So I'm like,

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if we can be the only ones out here, we'll

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be center of attention. So nothing happened, and then the

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next morning we got up and we were all sitting

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around the campfire in the morning, and probably I say

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three hundred feet away there was a bigfoot leaning over

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and then he had his arm around the tree and

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he was watching us. And he was it was like

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early morning where the where the light it wasn't real bright,

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and he was all black, so I couldn't make out

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any details that he was like leaning down with I

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could see that with one arm around the tree, and

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then he was watching us. I didn't tell anybody nothing.

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I didn't want to freak him out. So I was

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just talking and socializing.

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And then.

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And then I'd keep every so often i'd look back,

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and then he stayed there. He'd stayed there and watched

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about ten fifteen minutes, and then I looked back again

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and he was gone. It was that was cool.

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So you you didn't even tell the other people in

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your group, that's wild.

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No, they don't even know. They still don't know. I

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still never call him. They might do this.

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Though, Yeah, that's true. They might after this, But that's

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wild man.

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Okay.

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So do you you spend most of your time up

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in uh? Was that around Atlanta State Forest Area? No?

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I spent My main place is four Ground State Game Area.

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That's right, yep, Yeah, there's so much stuff about that area.

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It's crazy. Yeah, because you had Stacy Atkinson. He's one

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that had the rock thrown at him the size of basketball.

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He said. I'm like, man, I talked to him about

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I emailed him right away after your episode. I'm like, man,

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I want to go out there camping, like, oh, it's

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too wet right now. But we talked like an hour

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an hour or more. Oh well, yeah, I was saying,

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because he was like, they keep blocking his trail cams. Yeah,

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all kinds of weird stuff going on.

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Well if I remember, Yeah, that was a while ago.

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I had that chat about poor Huron, but there was

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he had a pretty intense infrasound encounter out there too.

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Yeah. I explained to him because he carries he's ex military,

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so he likes to carry a gun with him. I'm like, dude,

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they don't like the gun. I mean, it doesn't matter

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your intentions. If you got a gun, right, they're probably

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going to be irritated. Absolutely.

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Why do you think there's so much activity that happens

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around that area.

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Oh, there's a ton of them. I mean, me and

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Brian so here we found probably five sets of tracks

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together that one time. We went and that was that

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was just one little area.

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Brian's a good guy. Uh, we're talking about Michigan right now.

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Yeah, yeah, he's bigfoots of Michigan. Mm hmm. Yeah he was.

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He's been on your show too. And then oh yeah, yeah,

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well yeah I went there. I seen he left apples

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and a jar peanut butter. I must have gone out

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there right after him.

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Have you ever gone over to Manisty area.

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Yeah, I've been there once. I used to hike it

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when I was young. I used to do like a

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twelve mile hike in camp and I was like probably

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twenty some years ago. But I'm thinking of playing a

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trip there again because I think it's like the largest

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patch of state land in Michigan. It's it's a big area.

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If I was able to go out there, I would

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check out me sick Michigan. Supposedly, these these old timers

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I talked to, they were awesome. They said that there's

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so many sightings in that area where they call it

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the Bigfoot's name is the Marilla Gorilla because it happens

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on Marilla Road, which is awesome.

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Cool. Yeah, then I had I've had other encounters. I

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was going to write everything down before I came on.

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But I'm like, heck, why not, we could do that

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right now?

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I guess yeah, yeah, no, no sweat. Can you think

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of maybe any other thing you've had happen that we

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haven't talked about yet.

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Yeah, one, like two weeks ago, Okay, I went up

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to Lazarn, to that spot where I've seen that red

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haired one mm hmm one where and then I had

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the nightmares for two years. So I had to suck

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it up and get back up there. And then nothing.

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The first time I went there, everything was silent when

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I went there, but this time it was fine. So

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I'm like, all right, I just done my thing, rode

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the motorcycle around, and then nothing happened all night, and

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then it was I checked my watch five thirty in

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the morning. I got woken up to footsteps and you

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know how, like how like mountain lions they stuck real

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white and slow. Yeah, it was like that each foot

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was coming you could tell it was bipedal, and each

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foot was coming down and you could hear like two

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sticks snap, and then the leaves kept crunching down because

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there's still a lot of leaves from last fall. And

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then it had getting closer and closer. It probably took

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six or seven steps, and I was freaking out. I

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just sitting there. Look. Then I'm like, because I didn't

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have the knife, I didn't have bear spray. It wasn't

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even in the tent with me. And then and then

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like six feet for my tent, there was a spruce

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tree and there was a robin that in it I

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didn't know about. And then when I got up to

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the tree, the robins just walked with mind and and

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then that's when I jumped up. And then and then

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the sound was gone, like you couldn't even hear it

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walk away. Mm hmm. I'm like, yeah, I'm like it

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had to be because if it was a bear, a deer,

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or anything else, you would have heard it leaving them

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in the leaves. Yeah.

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Have you ever been to a deadhead swamp in ross

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Common area?

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I've been to ross Common, that's a while.

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I've talked to a hunter once from and he had

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some weird, weird stuff happened in that area. That might

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be a place to keep in mind if you're trying

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to look around the state.

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But so Rock yeah, Roscom and I've seen too. I've

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seen a juvenile and a male. That's one of the

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that was like the second sighting I ever had. Okay,

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that was wild that I was. It started because then

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I wanted to see him. So I started going to

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all these different locations and then I just seen on

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Google Maps it looked like a good area, so I

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went up there and then I I met I got

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head a GPS, so I made a big circle through

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the woods and.

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Then uh, when I ended up doing When I made

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my circle around, there were some bushes and I heard

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them like a kid, like a growl, and then it

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turned into like a kid's laugh.

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And when we were yeah, I'm like, I'm like, all right,

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I know you're there. They're just bushes. So I locked

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on it. I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna come around

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and see this guy. And then I walked over there

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and then there was there was nothing there. There wasn't

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even a trap.

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What uh, what makes a good area for you to

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check out? You're saying you sometimes look on a map

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and scout that way.

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Ah, water and just a lot of woods in the

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big areas of woods, and then what helps is following

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deer trails instead of like hiking trails. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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follow the animal trails. And then two I've seen I

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found tracks to where they actually grabbed the deer, the

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one in the lazern where you could see the deer

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track for it was going by itself. And then there

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was like it was like twenty five tracks. So sorry,

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I had someone come in the room. Obviously, you have

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to be in the area to find the deer trails.

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You're not going to find those on a map, correct, Yeah, yeah,

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you find the water. I find the most secluded areas,

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and then either around the swamp, around a large creek,

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or the rivers are the best. I found the yep.

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I think that they love the fish really mhm. They

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like the fish because they've taken that. I know they

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like the clams. And then like June June is is

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like when the prime time starts when they get really active.

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Oh really, Okay, that's good to know for for the

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Michigan area.

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Yeah, maybe mid June is when everything gets good. That's

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when they they start getting real vocal too. Mm hmm. Yeah.

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I would say that's pretty similar for Iowa, probably like

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late May early June, and then like.

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October is a good good months too. But dude. Yeah,

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good to talk to you.

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It's been a while, but I'm glad you were able

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to come up and chat for a while.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me keep me in the

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loop with what you're experiencing out there.

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Right all right, Thanks nice talking to you two. Bye,

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Hi there, How are you good?

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How are you doing?

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Hey?

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Doing well? I was hoping we'd be able to talk.

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Feel free too. I know you saying thirty years of

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UFO and bigfoot research in Vermont.

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That's wild.

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Well, there's you know. The thing is, I originally came

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from Connecticut and I've been here forty years in Vermont,

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and I guess the story's going to start this way.

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I usually don't talk about this, but I feel at

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my age now, at sixty seven, it's probably a good

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time to talk about it.

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So I would say.

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So.

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Yeah.

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When I was a child, at ten years old, I

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had a major accident. I was climbing a fence and

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my foot slipped and the fence spoke went through my

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forehead and people climbed up the fence and pulled me off.

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By the time I got to the hospital, I had

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passed and they tried to revive me. And bring me back.

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During that experience, I was looking down at the doctor's

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working on me, and I could hear this music, but

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it wasn't a music I've never heard before. It was

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very pleasant. I had no pain, I couldn't physically see

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my body, but I was looking down and this voice

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came back and said, it's not your time, James, and boom,

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I was back in my body, and they go, he's back.

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So we start talking. They're asking me what my name is,

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where I live, and all this kind of stuff. Well,

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as time went on, months later, went to see the

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doctor again. I said, you know, I heard everything you

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and the nurses were saying. And he looked at my

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mother and he goes, now that that's impossible. And I

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laid it right out what they were talking about in

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the operating room, and he goes, I have no words.

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I have no words. Everything he said is true. So

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after that something was left open. I don't know what

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it was, but I started attracting you know, UFOs ghosts.

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First started seeing ghosts, and then you know, they would go,

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I just tell him to move on, go. I had

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no fear of it for some reason. And then I

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started seeing you know, I was with friends, like I

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had a friend from IBM, and we went out, had

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been drinking that night, and look and I said, look,

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there's a UFO up there. It's going to try to land.

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And he looked and he started running to the car.

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He goes, let's get out of here. The thing was

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coming down. And after that was one experience after another.

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And you know, I got some good pictures here in

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Vermont of things I've seen, and so I put up

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twenty eight cameras, which is a lot of cameras out

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on this massive lot of land. I mean, the woods

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were deep. And I left him there for a month.

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And my son, he has a very high IQ. And

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I don't say it because he's my son. He just does.

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And he brought the cameras back and he calls me up.

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He goes, Dad, He goes, I'm looking at something on

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this trail cam and my brain won't let me tell

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me what it is. It's telling me it's a bear,

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but I can see it right in front of me.

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So I ran over to the house and I took

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a look, and there stand was a bigfoot about i'd

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say ten feet or better. When the camera went off,

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turned and looked right at the camera, so I ended

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up getting a picture of it right in the front.

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And he told me, you know, don't tell anybody about this.

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I mean, don't tell anybody about what we've seen in

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this and that. And as time went on going, wait

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a minute, I'm an investigator, and I'm not showing people

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pictures well by accident. I've been on their turf where

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they live. I've been in their little villages, let's call

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them little villages out in the woods. And I see

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this fake rock lifted up. So I look under there

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and there's betting where something's been big. It's been sleeping underneath, underground,

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and I just said, you know, don't worry about it.

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I'm not here to be violent. I carry a gun

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with me for one reason only. If anything tries to

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attack me, I will use the gun. Otherwise, I'm friends.

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I just want to be friendly with you. I know

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that sounds very strange talking to the air, but I

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went back the next day and I was just sitting

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looking at the brook going by, you know, and I

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heard this tree shaking, and I go, what the heck

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is going on there? And I hear, oh, you know,

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it's making it like a grunt and warp noise at

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the same time, and I look up and there's a

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juvenile in the tree. And I snapped a picture of it,

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and I got the side view of it sitting there,

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and you can clearly see the eyes and everything else,

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you know, and it's like, you know, we kind of

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became connected in some weird way. So I was taking

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a walk up in the woods to see, you know,

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if I could catch them up there around that area.

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And I didn't see them after an hour, so I

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came back and there were four stones piled on each

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other in the same spot I came up. There was nothing.

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When I came back, the stones were there, so sort

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of like a I don't know, a friendly gesture or

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something like that. I'm not quite sure, but I've had connections,

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you know, with things like that. But one night, I

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know it's going to sound like it's a bunch of

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bull I didn't get a picture of this, but I

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kept saying to these extraterrestrials that, let's just say that

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that I've been communicating with. I said, I'd like one

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of you to come down. I'd like to see you

467
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and you know, kind of talk with you. If you're

468
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.440
open to that, you know. And I live way deep

469
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.160
out in the woods, you know, and I open up

470
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.359
the door let my dogs out every night, but I

471
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.359
turned the lights on. Well this night, I open up

472
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:50.039
the door, and you know, they ran and I'm looking

473
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:51.920
down at them. All of a sudden, I see these feet,

474
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.839
not really feet, but kind of gray boots. And I'm

475
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:01.039
looking up and as I'm going up, here's this whatever

476
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:04.640
it was, extraterrestrials standing right in front of me, nose

477
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.519
to nose, and it was wearing sort of like the

478
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.160
only way I can describe it is a mesh helmet.

479
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:13.880
It was just that's what it looked like to me.

480
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:15.960
It may not, but that's what it looked like to

481
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:20.839
me for some reason. And it turned its head, pivoted

482
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.400
its head to the side and looked at me strange.

483
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:25.799
I said, come on, dogs, get in there. And they

484
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.440
ran in and I slammed the door and I locked it,

485
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.839
and my wife said, what's wrong with you? And I

486
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.920
was shaking. I was white as a ghost. And I

487
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.200
turned the outside light and went out there to look,

488
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.559
and it wasn't there. And I explained the story to

489
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.079
her what I've seen. She goes you know, better than

490
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:47.680
asking for something like that. With whatever you got, I

491
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.599
have like a beacon that goes off, that draws everything

492
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.359
in and I can't shut it off. It's just like

493
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.720
all the strangers thing I've seen. Lights I've seen one

494
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.559
landed out my son's backfield and it was Christmas and

495
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.799
it lit up the whole back But I was nervous

496
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.599
to go out there. I don't know why. Something just

497
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.759
told me don't go out there. So I took a

498
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.160
picture of the lights and everything. The next day I

499
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.119
went there and there were foot tracks, like claw foot tracks.

500
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:20.440
It was weird, like these like these three three feet,

501
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.119
you know, on each side, three toes, and it had

502
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:28.480
walked a little distance and then walked back. So this

503
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.400
has been going on, I mean since I was a kid.

504
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:36.240
I mean I've seen and communicated and done this for years,

505
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.640
you know, but it's strange.

506
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.359
I don't know, can you?

507
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.039
So I grew up in New England, I grew up

508
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.400
in Western mass and I actually went to school in southern.

509
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:51.559
Vermont for my younger years. Can you.

510
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.440
I'm really curious, is this Northern Vermont or southern Vermont

511
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:03.599
or oh okay, really that's even more rare because usually

512
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.279
you know you're hearing stuff from like the Bennington Triangle

513
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.000
down the south right, but like you do not hear

514
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.519
stuff from northern Vermont, like out in the public. I'm

515
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:16.359
sure thirty years you've heard so much stuff. But that

516
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:17.200
is intense.

517
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:17.559
Man.

518
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.839
Plus, my son a month ago was driving down the

519
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.559
road and he had his friends following them, and he

520
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.279
was like turning the camera around to take pictures of

521
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.000
them following, which is probably not safe, but it was

522
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.279
on a dirt road, and when he got home to

523
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.559
look at the pictures, he snapped a picture of a

524
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.640
bigfoot walking into the woods right by the road. He

525
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.279
never saw it, but it showed up in the picture.

526
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:47.079
Do you have any have you published any books about

527
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:47.680
your research?

528
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:48.920
No?

529
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:50.359
Wow?

530
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.720
Are the photos you have? Are those available anywhere?

531
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.359
I have them? I definitely have the photo.

532
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.880
Oh sorry, you put him up anywhere on the internet

533
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.960
or they're just in your personal Wow.

534
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.119
My son didn't want me to put them anywhere on

535
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.720
the internet, they said, he said, because you're going to

536
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.119
get visitors if you do that. And the people said

537
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.799
were saying to me, oh you found where they live?

538
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.920
I go, yeah, I'll show you pictures of it, and

539
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.599
that picture got snuck in by accident and one on

540
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:24.640
the internet and it went viral. And what happened was

541
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.960
one of these TV shows said the the four most

542
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.559
best authentic pictures of Bigfoot. Mine was in there?

543
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:36.400
Was it Finding Bigfoot?

544
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.720
I'm not really sure. I can't remember who it was,

545
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.920
what what station, or what the people were, but I

546
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.400
know it was on TV. And when it came up,

547
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.720
my son goes, you're happy now. He goes, now, you're

548
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:50.720
going to have problems.

549
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:51.640
I told you.

550
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:57.200
I told you, Yeah, that's funny. Was it in Apple Orchard? No, okay,

551
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.720
I'm trying so I'm trying to So there's a ross.

552
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.319
And there's a lot of deer, a lot of deer.

553
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.279
I mean it was over one hundred deer down there

554
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.960
by the brook. They were all over the place. And

555
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.720
I know where the mountain is where it comes from.

556
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.960
And I told my son, I said, do you want

557
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:16.079
to go camping up there? I said, but you better

558
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.559
be prepared if you go up there, because I don't

559
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.279
know how this is going to end. I said, when

560
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.640
I go up there, I can guarantee you there's going

561
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.680
to be a group of them coming around their tent.

562
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.160
That night. I said, so you got to be very

563
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.599
careful that you know. They can be dangerous. They tend

564
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:38.799
not to be unless you provoke it. And I said,

565
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.119
but I can show you up there where they He goes,

566
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.680
I'm not afraid, I says, you will be when you

567
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.359
see them, because the one we saw was ten to

568
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:49.480
eleven feet. The one we took a picture of it

569
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:50.200
was massive.

570
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.079
Dude, that's intense.

571
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:58.200
What would be if you're thinking over your your many years,

572
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:03.960
what is the most intense report you've heard, or maybe

573
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.359
that you even experienced yourself.

574
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.799
It would be my son. He was coming home late

575
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.319
one night, was like twelve o'clock at night. He had

576
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.720
to go pay for a car he was buying. And

577
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.400
on the way home, of course, we live way out

578
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.319
in the woods, so you're going down the dirt road,

579
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.359
heavy woods everywhere. He's going down the road and you

580
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:31.920
looked at, you know, his wife, and said, what is

581
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.720
that in the road? And he put his high beams

582
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.440
on and he said, Dad, I'm not going to lie

583
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:43.400
to you. He said. You know how they talk about giants.

584
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.279
You know, I forgot what they call him. It's not

585
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:51.279
coming to me right now, but I live behind him mountain,

586
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.279
a huge mountain, and this thing, he said, ran on

587
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:59.680
all fours and he said, this thing was so big, Dad,

588
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.359
that it could have took my truck and threw it

589
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.319
down the road. He said. I was in shock when

590
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.359
I seen it. And I said, well, which way did

591
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.599
it go? He goes, well, went right down over in

592
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.759
the field, right through where we live. And I go,

593
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.640
I'm going to check it out the next day. So

594
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.599
I went down there and every tree on the left

595
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.039
and right side was torn down. There was this big

596
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:30.200
path that went through and he said, Nethelin Nephelin giant.

597
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.440
Is that what they call him?

598
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:33.759
He said.

599
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.440
He says, I think it lives in the mountain there.

600
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:41.559
I really do, he said. And don't don't. Don't get

601
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.160
encounter with it. Nothing you have and you throw at

602
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.680
it will kill this thing, he says. So if you

603
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.000
see it, hide, because I go in the woods a

604
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.200
lot out there where the thing went through, you know,

605
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:56.079
and there's there's like, I don't know what it is,

606
00:32:56.119 --> 00:33:00.920
it's like six thousand acres of protected land out in

607
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.279
the back. And I go out there with my rock

608
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.000
crawler and go way out in the back country there

609
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.640
and there's foot tracks everywhere. I mean, they're like having

610
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.480
a breeding ground out there.

611
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:14.119
My goodness.

612
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.400
Uh so you're saying, you're probably saying even north of

613
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.119
Uh let's see, where did we just go?

614
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:20.799
We went up to?

615
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:21.160
Uh?

616
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.200
Is it Burlington?

617
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.880
Yeah? Burlington's only forty five minutes for me?

618
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.400
Okay, Yeah, so you're you're way up there because yeah,

619
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.640
Northern Vermont has weird stuff. Oh my goodness, are you

620
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:40.359
Someone in the comments asked, I believe are you seeing

621
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.160
other stuff up there besides Bigfoot other cryptids?

622
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.200
Yeah, there's there's been some really strange stuff out there.

623
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:48.559
You know.

624
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.200
I don't know if I don't know if many people

625
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.920
believe in this reptilians. I don't know if they believe

626
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.079
in them or not. But I can swear that something

627
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:02.400
was underground when we moved here. The ground would literally

628
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.960
go puff up in the air and back down again.

629
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.239
The rocks would fall, and I could hear tunneling. And

630
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.719
one night I was laying in bed here and I

631
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.519
opened up my eyes and I wasn't dreaming. I was

632
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:22.320
wide awake, and there was something standing over my bed

633
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:27.960
with these big, red, glowing eyes, and I kind of

634
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.000
went into I said, I'm not going to wake her up,

635
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.920
because I'll scare the death out of her. So I

636
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.639
rolled over to my camera on the side of my stand,

637
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.119
and you I threw a little video of it with music,

638
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.000
and the thing just vanished and took off. So one night,

639
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.840
I'm out in the back and there's a big field.

640
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.559
We have a garage there. There's a big field, and

641
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.119
I hear this little girl going help me, help me.

642
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.119
And it was real late at night, and my son said,

643
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.039
don't go, don't go. There's something out there that wants

644
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.840
you to go there. That's not little girl out there

645
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.039
in the field. Because we kept yelling to get her

646
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.719
to answer because it didn't sound far away, and it

647
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.480
kept saying, come over here, help me, help me, and

648
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.880
I said, no, it's not going to happen. We're not

649
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.480
going out there. I'm not that stupid. I knew that

650
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.199
it was something, but I'm not I'm not sure if

651
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.760
it was a reptilian what it was, to be honest

652
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.880
with you, but I know that it wasn't a little girl.

653
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.880
And that happened on many occasions. I heard a bigfoot,

654
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.239
and I'm going to say it's a bigfoot. Four coyotes

655
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.639
had to be four or five coyotes were down by

656
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.000
the brook and they were making all these noises and

657
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.320
carrying on, and I assume they got a deer because

658
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:52.000
of the way they were savagely acting down there. And

659
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.639
then all of a sudden, this roar came out like

660
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.599
like that, and the coyotes started yeping, you know, they're going,

661
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.719
And then all of a sudden it was quiet and

662
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.800
it was nothing, no sound, nothing at all. And I

663
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.960
assume he killed them and took the deer and walked off.

664
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:19.039
That's just my assumption of what happened. So I don't know.

665
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:23.599
It's it's wild how much you've encountered in thirty years.

666
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.760
It's I know.

667
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.760
A lot of people are like, oh, show it's a photo,

668
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.880
but it sounds like you're not. It was a mistake

669
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:36.400
that it was leaked, so we're not going to push that.

670
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.480
But man, it's been a fascinating conversation with you. If

671
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.760
you ever want to share anything else, you can send

672
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.840
me an email at a big for Society at gmail

673
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.199
dot com. I'd love to hear from you.

674
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.159
Yeah. Absolutely. I was just going to tell you one

675
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.840
last thing, Okay, getting this thing on the internet that

676
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.880
we took a picture of two months later. There's an

677
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:02.679
suv right down by the brook. It was there every

678
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.159
night with dark windows, the car running, and it had

679
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.199
Washington plates on it, and it was sitting there. I

680
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.840
walked right by it and I waved and I came

681
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.119
back up. It was there every night, and then all

682
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:18.840
of a sudden it wasn't there anymore.

683
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:23.400
Washington State or DC DC.

684
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.760
I mean, oh, man, wow, that's some wild stuff. But

685
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.079
I man, I've heard stuff like that over the years.

686
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:37.079
I'm not surprised at all. O what what an incredible

687
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.280
you have. You have a very cool life story. Thank

688
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.719
you so much for coming up. And no, I didn't

689
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.159
even get I didn't even get your your name, but

690
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:46.760
I guess I can call you Mercury Man.

691
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.639
Right, It's Jim. My name's Jim.

692
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.320
Jim. Nice to meet you. Thank you.

693
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.880
And the other thing is, you know, down the road here,

694
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.679
I'll send you some photos, okay, of a lot of

695
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.880
things that I've seen out here that it will blow

696
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:01.480
your mind.

697
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.679
Thank you, thank you. I'll be looking out for those.

698
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:06.920
But thank you for coming up. Jim.

699
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.199
It's been a pleasure to thank you.

700
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.760
Tonight, you two l see again.

701
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:15.079
You got it. Wow.

702
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:21.639
Jim has a really cool life story. There. Have you

703
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.320
ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge,

704
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.360
Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I would love

705
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.360
to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well,

706
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.760
guess what this year you can. If this is interesting

707
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:41.000
to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer

708
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:45.239
Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty

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twenty six. It's going to be even better than the

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previous years. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

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series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you cannot only

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go to the festival, but you can also sign up

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for a track deep in the wild forest outside of

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Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look

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for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this,

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and yes, this will also be filmed for the next

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chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch.

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This is a once in a lifetime deal. It's just

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trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To

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get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot

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com and listeners can use the code b SP like

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Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two day

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pass for the price of a one day pass. So

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thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that

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you guys can can get a little a little help

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with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. Before we wrap

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this episode, I want to say something directly to a

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very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

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any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

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no one can explain, or if you're a National park

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ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

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or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on

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the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency,

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or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not

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allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

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or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

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tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

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industry on a remote oil field or a trucker with

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government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

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told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a

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min mistionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat and you

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saw something that shook your faith, or if you work

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in the shadows, CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and

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you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to

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talk to you, even if it's anonymous. You can reach

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me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. The world

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needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone,

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and you're not alone. You've got the story, We've got

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the mic. See you in the woods. Thank you for

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listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every

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encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger

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and stranger than we think, and that the truth is

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often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed

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this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel

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next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters,

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or the unexplained. And if you're listening to us on

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or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting, please

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I'd love to hear from you, so email me at

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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start the conversation.

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If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check out our

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membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot

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com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's episode today

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early in ad free and members only episodes every week. Also,

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it's a place to connect with other people that are

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into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks

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again for following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time,

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Keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

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asking what else might be out there? And see you

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in the woods.