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Season 1

In this episode, a witness recounts a chilling roadside encounter on Wildcat Mountain Road near Estacada, Oregon. While driving, they describe seeing a large, hairy figure walking along the road, which appears to notice the vehicle, pause, duck down, and hide in a dip among the bushes. The encounter unfolds silently, with the figure remaining concealed while watching from the roadside.


This firsthand account adds to a growing collection of unexplained sightings in rural Oregon, raising questions about what may be inhabiting remote mountain roads and forested areas. Was it a misidentified person, or something far more unusual?

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You're listening to BIGFA Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us our Big for Society. We've got

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the privilege of talking to Lisa today. Lisa's an individual

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that left a comment or two on a video back

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in the day on the channel, and so I reached

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out to her through must have been an episode or

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maybe a comment back to her and said, hey, you know,

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I want to know more, and so she's been emailing

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me back and forth. She's been sending some really interesting

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thermal videos, just some there's a lot for us to

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talk about. So, Lisa, I'm so glad that you're able

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to come on the show. You've been on a call

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in show for a little bit, but I was like, man,

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we got to get a whole show so Lisa can

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share her full story. And Lisa, I'm really glad you're

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here today.

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Thanks Jeremiah. I was really I was so excited and

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nervous from when I called you in and called in

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and yeah, be in line like that. But I'm fifty

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six years old. I was born and raised down in

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the Bay Area, and I was in Fanta Bay and

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I had my first experience in I think seventy six

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or seventy seven, and I went camping with my friend

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Linette and her brother and sister, mother, father and aunt

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and uncle. Hey. I always remembered the drive and being

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told I think he mentioned her uncle who went in

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their car and followed her parents, and he mentioned Donner Pass.

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I think he was trying to, you know, freak us

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out a little bit. But I never remember spending the

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night and talking to Lynette over you know, especially since

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when on May eleventh of twenty twenty one, I was

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basically not as visually but everything else, reacquainted with the

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fact that these beings are real, and so, you know,

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after that really dealing into that. I remember going camping

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with Lynette and I bought it up, and she didn't

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remember me going. She remembers, like she mentioned her uncle

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spinning her around, holding her hands and spaying around in circles,

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and she was afraid he was going to toss her

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off the cliff. And you know, over over a period

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of time, I eventually remembered that. You know, I remember

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standing there and watching it. She's screaming, and I think

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to myself, why is she what she screaming about? You know,

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her feet are barely coming over the edge, and and so,

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you know, eventually we worked it out that you know,

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I couldn't remember spending the night, but she couldn't remember

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me even going. So it was like somes wrong with

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this picture, you know, and so I really, you know,

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I was seeking the truth what happened, and I started

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I remembered the tent, and she asked me to describe it,

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and I told her it was really big and square,

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and you know, I did a really good bang up

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job describing it. And eventually I told her I remember

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laying in a sleeping bag facing each other, her and

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her bag, me and mine, and she said, and we're

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on a video chat. So this makes it even even

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better because I'm looking at her, and she says, I

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seem to remember you going, holding your finger up and

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pointing over my left shoulder. And then she came out

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in front of me on the phone and walked her

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fingers like in the Yellow Pages. And yeah, that shot

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me back. I felt just like I must have phoned

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that night hearing something out there, and when I told

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you about it on that live call in I I

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was so in her hurry and wanting to get everything

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out there that I didn't tell you that, you know,

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we were we went through, and I mean, she still

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didn't remember me being there. She knows that it happened.

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She has no doubt in her mind, and a really

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obsess her that she can't remember one thing. But we

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went running back, you know, she said. She said. One

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after some things were getting from and I saw the direction,

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but my back was up against a big boulder and

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they were being frown from behind the boulder to the

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right diagonally, and she's up on a stack of logs

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being logged, and she sees, she sees where it came from.

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She had to her because she said what And I

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had had start, of course, because I was already on

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the ground and like we talked about this like five

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different times over a period, I don't know, three months,

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and so I I'm thinking about it the whole time.

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You know that I'm not talking to her because you know,

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either we run from it or we obsess on it,

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and I'm the obsessor, and I'm like, I seem to

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remember some mention of a monkey and of her mother

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going back and we ran. She asked, well, were you

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ahead of me or was I ahead of you? I

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said I was ahead of you because you were up

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on the logs. And we get back and her she says,

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did Uncle Jay or Chris Scarce with a monkey suit

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or a monkey mask? And her mother's like no, you know, like,

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oh my god, I remember her face, just like I'm

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sure I'm Daisy. No, no, you know, And so that

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is I didn't see it. I didn't see it, and

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get the door slammed on my memory. I just ran

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and I heard those steps. I heard it, you know,

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walking around the tent. And so she still doesn't remember,

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but you know, there's there's a ghostly event with a

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cap that I had that we took from Saturday. We

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moved up to penalty for not even a year and

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ended up going back to the same house. But I

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got a kidney infection and this was like eighty let's

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feel a freshman, so it was like eighty shoe eighty

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three and I told her. I came out and I'm

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worried about you know, where's Tippy? Where's Tippy? And my

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mom says she's a little there on the couch. So

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I go over and I give her love and I'm

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happy she's obtaining I had no idea why, and I

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told my mother, don't let Tippy out, and she said

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she wouldn't, and I went back to sleep. And you

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know how cats are, They're persistent and drove my mother nuts,

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and so she let her out and she got hit

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and killed by a car, and so we ended up.

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That was before the winter, and we ended up moving

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back about six months later. And my friend Lynette was

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over and we come from the kitchen are probably the

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game room out in the garage, and we were going

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down the hall in my bedroom for some reason. And

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we get down there and Lynette's first and she sees

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Chippy sitting there at the corner of my pant's door

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and my door, and I had to have seen it too.

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And have seen her too, because I ran, like be

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split mhm when I told one an, I said, you know,

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see I don't remember. I believe it, but I don't remember.

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And you are she's got the ability to uh pick

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up an item and describe it that you know, uh

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the connections the people, and yeah, she's had she's been

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spoken to by by spirits, you know, by particularly a

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woman that she believes was was accidentally at least accidentally

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died at the hands of her man. And she's almost

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certain that the woman was Like I've heard so many,

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so many people's experiences where the man goes and you know,

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the big Harry Forrest guy comes in and you know,

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comes around while the man's gone, and she tells the

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man probably all on over and he's a truck driver

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and he drinks and he gets flustered and you know,

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he probably couldn't take it anymore. And I mean this

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woman was accidentally accidentally killed. And I mean, so she's

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got she's got that connection. I said. And I'm like,

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I'm nature, I'm the birds. I'm basically a cross between

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christ and the Adams and snow white without a dress. Animals.

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It's insane the way that animals are with me, and

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so it it makes sense that, hey, I am I

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remember that, you know I, but you blocked it out,

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And hey, you remember seeing Tippy. I know I did,

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but I don't remember. And so so then we'll go

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to May eleventh of twenty twenty one. In twenty seventeen,

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I had been introduced to going out and collecting mushrooms

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edible notollucinogenic. And I I'm a picture person. I love

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I love nature, I love beauty, and I had an

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eye for photography. And so I saw this great calendar

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picture of this log a big tree, big tree, you know,

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probably bigger around or maybe a bigger around as what

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you can make a circle with your arms, and it's

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going straight in to the forest, framed, you know, a

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bit rounded and broken up of the opening, and it's

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just beautiful. So I take a picture and I go in,

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and I'm like in awe and filled with long I

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don't know his apprehension. I was very anxious because my

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conscience may not have been being out loud about it.

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But the downside I knew that these trees had been

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pulled out of the ground and shoved back in top

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side down and so I wanted to get these pictures again.

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I lost the phone, like everybody goes through phones, and

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so I wanted to reclaim those pictures. And I went

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up like three or four times. I started out about

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mid April and too much snow can nearly get up there.

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And then the time before I made it, I walked

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up a little bit and it's you know, no, I

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got this video and it's quite long because I like,

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you know, I document it, document pretty much everything I can,

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and then you know, decide if it's capable whatnot. And

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so I'm walking down the road and I'm grumbling and

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and I'm home my camera and my phone out in

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front of me, filming, and I end up and I

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find this, like nine months later, I find what is

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you know, I'm unmistakable, without a doubt. It is all

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one color. It's not the Gentleman that I did film

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later in the room mirror.

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Big for a Society will be right back.

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After these messages, Ring was walking up towards me and

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I'm like, I don't go away, don't come up here,

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you know, grumbling.

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And a cem and you know, the first subject, the

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one all down, was further down and in front of me,

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and but I'm sorry, if that dude had been down

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there where that being was, I'd have been able to

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tell he was wearing different colors and they certainly weren't

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all dark. And so I'm like, wow, I mean, I

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just catch all this stuff. That's crazy.

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But Lisa could then, sorry, could you share where the

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kind of region that that happened, and just so the

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listeners can picture, like where it is that you're.

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So many people talk about it. It is wild Cat

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Mountain Road in Stacata.

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Okay, thank you?

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Yeah mm hmm. So then I go back May eleventh

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and I can make it and it's like, oh my gosh. So,

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I mean, I I get in there and I'm disappointed.

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I'm it's hard for me to recognize it because i mean, gosh,

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it'd only been four years of wear and tear. Must

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have been a lot of big seat going up and

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down that log. Because when I took the first picture

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of it, I wish I had that drown picture. The

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log was it was a big tree was clearly sticking

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up off the ground and you know, so it had

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the rounded edges and it just looked like, you know,

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somebody started cutting it to cut boards off of it,

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and just now it's like now there's hardly any tree

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that you can see. It's it's really soft and mushy.

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And but I get in there and I can I

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can feel like I feel like I'm gonna have a

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heart attack because I mean my breathing, you know, I

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in my head, I am more concerned about man than

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I am animal. And I you have bear spray in

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the van, but I'm just like, you know, I'm upset

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because I can't find you know, that the marmitree that

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I'd taken a picture of what looked like a marm

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tree saying no, no no to a little when holding

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his arms out, looking like it's pleading. And that was

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two of the three trees that had their roots sticking

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up like their limbs there should have been. And then

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the bigger one, it didn't have any moss on it

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in seventeen, but it is covered in moss now. And

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so I felt like, you know, I looking to spontaneously conbust.

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I ended up I'm looking in that picture, looking back

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in the dark. You know, I'm looking for dark stuff.

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I didn't even think to look closer to me when

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I finally noticed like, wow, here's these two red, these

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two shiny you know, there's red that there isn't anywhere else.

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And my little admirer that I call them, was back

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up against the tree and looking over his right shoulder.

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Got looks like he's got green lies. And then his

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big sibling was in a tree, probably about maybe twenty

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feet to his right and back a little bit and

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about forty feet from me. And the little one was

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about thirty feet from me, and the big one he's

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shown from about the edge of his shoulder down to

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his elbow. And I later found a footprint with my son.

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He was there at that tree, facing the tree, so

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she wasn't peaking. I didn't catch him peaking. He was

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just standing there thinking, thinking he couldn't be seen. But

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so then.

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Sorry, Lisa, real quick that what you saw was that

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through a thermal or did you see that in like

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you saw that face to face like you were looking

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at the creatures.

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No, I was standing there feeling them, okay, And I

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saw them in my in my pictures.

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Got it, okay, thank you?

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I took a picture, ye, and I have that on

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my phone. Yeah. One time I was going up there,

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I was really upset, and I would, you know, once

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I realized they were there, I would go up there

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and talk to him, you know. And so I go

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up there one time and I'm venting to them or

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I want to vent to him. I'm really good. Today.

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I pulled they were to let somebody around me because

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I don't like people riding in my trunk. And behind

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them was an officer and I don't have a Yeah,

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I didn't have a back plate at the time, you know,

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letter I wash, my tags were no good. But he

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pulled me over. And you know, I was real honest

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with him. Why, I know, you know, when I was

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doing it. In a long story short, I ended up

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showing him my phone and him wanting to know if

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he could touch it. I said, well, the picture won't

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blow up because it's on you know, it's the screen

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on my phone. And she says to me, me and

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the red you know these guys are red. Me and

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my wife just bought a house on wild Cat Mountain Road,

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and I think we have one living on our property.

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This yeah, it was Clakmus County. And I mean, you know,

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before I got into that, he says, he, I said,

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I just need to go up and you know, be

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with nature and you know, YadA YadA, and he says,

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you aren't gonna Steven night, are you? And later I

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would you know, just the same minutes later I realized

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why he was concerned about that. A lot of stuff

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has happened on Wildcat when I first moved up here

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in eighty six and my boyfriend ended up later being

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my husband. And now x uh, he said, you know,

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people were our bodies have been found up on Wildcat.

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Real quick. I had a gentleman who called in from

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Let me pull up a map real quick. It's it's

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south of down in Colton. He called from Colton and

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he was talking about Estacada and saying that there's a

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lot of missing people in that area. Usually, yeah, okay,

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so you can I can verify that.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean there are a lot of people

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that go missing everywhere. It's just that, you know, unless

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you're local, it's hard to find out because, you know,

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they used to they used to tell you how people

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died in the papers, and at least in their obituaries.

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They don't tell you. They don't. They leave all that out,

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and they do a lot of line about what was

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the cause of death when they do find the bodies.

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When I was okay, my mom was born in forty three.

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She was born and raised in Michigan, and I think

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it had to have been the only reason she would

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have told me something like this was just I was

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going to be going out into the woods when she

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was a little girl and I found it. I was like,

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I found it. I looked up between what she was

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born forty three, so like forty nine to fifty two

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or something. She said that a little a little boy

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or girl was drug off into the woods by a

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bear and the mother followed after it, beating it with

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a brain, chasing it, and the bear wouldn't let go,

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and the child died. And I found that particle they

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described They described the bear as holding it under its

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arm like a football and running away.

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That's no, yeah, yeah, oh my.

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You know the people that the people that, uh, you know,

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when when something scares you and your psyche just you know,

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isn't cracked up to accept it, You're gonna do everything

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you can, anything possible to avoid it. That's why you know,

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Lynette and I remain friends. That doesn't happen very often.

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You know, she wasn't she wasn't fully closed off to

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I mean, it probably helps that we were like, you know, seven,

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eight years old. But you know, Steve Isdall, I remember

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listening to him comment on, you know, some guy or

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woman whatever sharing an experience that they had with several

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friends and you know, lost a friend. There's a guy

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that he still has a brother in law, but they

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had an experience together and now he really doesn't have

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a brother in law. I mean, you know, if it's

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something you can't accept, then you're not going to have

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anything to do with anybody who's tied to it. And

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it's really sad. But anyway, so that was that was

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May eleven. Then I think I must have ordered my floor,

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my my thermal after that, you know for big hairy

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people walking around onto feet and I'm four legged, Harry,

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because I wanted to go camping with my son and

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I wanted that that oh safety net, I guess. And

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let's see, it was a July was okay. Then in July,

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I'm July fourth. I had found a bunny, a cottontail,

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a baby cottontail here in the road and it looked

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like a little brown, little round ball and I was like,

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oh my gosh, I caught it. I got food for it.

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I ended up feeding it with the long thing a

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plastic a plastic dropper. And I'd read somewhere where they

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said that trying to do this isn't for the faint

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of heart. And on the seventh I went to feed

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it and she wouldn't eat, and I knew what. I

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knew what had happened that, you know. I looked at

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the dropper and there were a couple of scrapes on it,

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and she ingested just the smallest amount of plastic and

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it was going to kill her. And I took I

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got two videos. One of them is up there talking

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about it that I just put up and it says,

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all right, yeah, it says this is why I had

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my uh sighting eyeballs. I saw it. I cried. It

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was it was just terrible. I I I've come to,

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you know, not let anything die by itself if I

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can help it. And I knew that they screamed, and

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I was like, oh, I can't do it. If if

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this thing screamed, I'm so I kissed it, said Sony.

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And I put it in the cage and I went

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up Wildcat and I got up there and I'm you know,

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talking out the window to him.

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Big so society, who will be right back after these messages?

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You know if I see a help The first time

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I saw a helicopter, I warned them. You know, they're looking,

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They're looking for you. They can see you, they hunt you,

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you know, telling them, you know, I wish I could

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live out there with you, and you know, if I

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have to come back down here again and do another life,

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I'd rather be a big, hairy forest person then, you know,

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then a little hairless one. And told them about the bunny,

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and ended up when I didn't want to drive home

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at night. I usually did that, but being upset like

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I was, I didn't want to, and so I told them,

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you know, I don't want to go because I know

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as soon as I leave, I'm gonna start thinking about

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the bunny and I'm gonna start crying. And I'm like, well,

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I'm gonna go. You guys have a good night down

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the creek. Start up my van and start driving off

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in first gear because I like to look everywhere and

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just go really slow. I didn't get a hundred feet

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and the tears started freaking rolling down my face, and

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so I put on my sunglasses so anybody coming up

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wouldn't take a look at me, and wondered what the

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heck my problem was. And I get down to it's

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the first creek if you actually look at it on

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Google Maps, and I believe it's leave it. It's Trout Creek. Yeah,

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there's creek and Alder Creek up there too, but I

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believe it's Trout Creek. And i'm it's a coming down.

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It is a long turn to the left, and I

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get just to where I can see there's a forest,

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there's the logging road, a blue gate on the right,

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and analyzing it and thinking back on it so many times,

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I know that this being was standing there waiting for me,

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because they weren't you know, they weren't in in mid step,

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you know, they were not taking steps. They were standing still.

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And then stepped from there and they took three steps

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up a small end point and then they were gone.

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And I thought to myself, where are the other two legs?

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And then I laughed out loud because they had to

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have been holding a bushy shrub in front of them

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so that I would only see them my phone from

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about mid torso down because they wanted me to stop crying,

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and I immediately did. As soon as I saw that,

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I immediately stopped crying, and you know, laughed because that would

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have been a funny looking deer the way it was walking.

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And you know, I grew up watching old movies with

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my mother, and I love all the Peter Sellers Pink

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Panther movies. And the one with David Niven and Robert Wagner.

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Was it a I saw in the arket right? Oh gosh, Well,

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there's a masquerade ball or party and there's a couple

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of people in a gorilla suit, and then there's two

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people in a horse suit. And that's why. That's why

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I pictured was the way that their legs were begging

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going up this hill, and and I thought, boy, where

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are they wearing car hearts? Uh? You know, everything's all

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the same color. And I just I I laughed, and

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I felt I felt like they cared, you know, I

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mean to stop to stop those chairs from my heart

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breaking over that little bunny. And and then it was like, well,

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they understood me. They clearly understand me. You know that

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picture that is on my YouTube of those eyes, that's

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out of a twenty six minute video that after I

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had seen things, and it had been catching things. I

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started going back and watching other stuff and doing some

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frame by frame and looking at stuff. And by that

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day I was complaining about my daughter impalealing me, breaking

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my heart, and m I hear what sounds like a

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plastic bag or tarp and I get out and I'm

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talking about it, and and I'm like, well, I hear

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it out there. I started talking like I'm talking to them.

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I'm you know, are you? I said, well, I said,

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what was it? Or was that? You? You know? And

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fill me? And then this block and I can't see

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it unless I go frame by frame, and it's really

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frustrating because I lost that ability on They axed it

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off of the Microsoft, so I'm I'm screwed on that.

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But it comes just a little bitty bubble, It comes

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flying out into the gravel, you know, road, and I'm

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just like, wow, on cue, we'll see. So then after

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that July uh m hmm, see started coming it. That

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was July seventh, August tenth. Something happened, but I don't know,

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I think it was. It had to been uh it was,

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you know, it was It was after that that I

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knew I had seen it I had seen one with

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my own eyes, and I knew for sure that what

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I saw in the pictures were real because there was

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that was probably the I think it was the sibling

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that was hiding behind the back of the further factory

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in that picture. But I want to go and go

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walk down this one blue gate logging road to look

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for mushrooms during the day, but I'm too scared too.

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I'm too and I'm like, oh, wait a minute, I

460
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.360
have that funimal in ever records during the day or

461
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.800
get stuff during the day too. So I and this

462
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:06.679
videos like four minutes, just under five minutes, and I'm

463
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.119
panning around and looking, still getting used to the thermal,

464
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:19.480
and I end up finally walking around the gate and

465
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.559
I think I stepped about fourteen steps based on how

466
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:28.559
the candle was kind of moving before I see a

467
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.440
heat signature and I stop and it's my little admirer.

468
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.800
I just knew it in the back of my head.

469
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.760
I know it, and it's running. It's kind of hilly

470
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.679
in there. I go back and I show the area

471
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:48.519
and regular video it's opening there and hilly, and he's

472
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.199
running over and wants to hide behind a tree. Thinks

473
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:56.440
I'm going to go walking down that road, and I'm

474
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.840
stopping and watching and he gets behind the tree and

475
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.320
he looks and he realized is that I'm looking at

476
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.679
him and seeing him, and he goes into what you know,

477
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:12.840
the Native Americans have so many different you know, the

478
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.559
different native plans that you know Cherokee, and the different

479
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:20.840
types have different names. And I heard one where they

480
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:26.599
refer to them, refer to them as like the man

481
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.719
who leaves when he runs, you know, goes into an

482
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.880
almost like falling flat on his face in a one,

483
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.599
you know, taking off. So he does that really quick,

484
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.559
and that scared me, and I turned and I start

485
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:46.679
running back to the land. And then I get down there,

486
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.199
and when I strolled back looking, I'm like, all right,

487
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.239
where'd you go? And I didn't even think about it

488
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.079
till much later that I said little, because I mean

489
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.599
I knew it was. I think they turned out to

490
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:08.039
be probably about four feet tall, and I was like,

491
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:15.920
oh my gosh. And I ended up getting big big

492
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.119
boy is in it too, across on the other side

493
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.679
in the trees, and then I think I see my

494
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.679
little admirer stuck up against a tree trying to blend

495
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.760
in and wait staying still because I can there's a

496
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:39.519
bit more of a heath signature there, and then I

497
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.280
only catch this stony frame by frame, probably big brother

498
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.679
or sister. I think there's only three of them. There

499
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:54.679
could be a female and maybe shoes. I just haven't

500
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:57.679
seen her or couldn't tell her it was her. But

501
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:03.760
some many is pushing on a snag and it just goes.

502
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.199
It's going back and forth a little bit like they're

503
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:12.519
trying to distract me, and I ended up turning and

504
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:18.400
running back to the van. It was. It looked like

505
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.599
I would have seen it, but I didn't. I was

506
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:28.159
just like I I'd had enough my nerves and uh,

507
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.920
let's see. So then then you know they I've heard

508
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:41.000
so many people talk about them knowing. You know, they

509
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.239
know you're going to go out there before you get

510
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:50.760
there type stuff. And I had made an appointment at

511
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.280
my mechanics right down the street I live and boring,

512
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:04.039
and I made it a month out for August tenth.

513
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.360
And I get down there. He's going to be working

514
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.079
on it a long time. I can't remember what he

515
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.360
was doing. But I bring my chair and I bring

516
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:18.519
drinks and I'm set up to go sit around on

517
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.599
the side of the building in the shade and wait,

518
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:26.440
and I'm sitting there and not long. I didn't send

519
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:30.559
me any pictures, but I've got pictures where I noticed

520
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:36.920
footprints in the tan bark where it had had to

521
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:40.039
have rained, and it was you know, they weren't missed

522
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.440
down and they were pretty on big. I mean, it

523
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:50.000
looked probably about close to twenty inches like the print

524
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:55.360
that I sent you a picture of the video. And

525
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.920
they're going back. I follow him and they're going back

526
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:07.440
quite a side between them, and he sits down and

527
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:14.800
I see, I see where the butt was, if you know,

528
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.119
the tan bea came up in a little bit of

529
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:20.559
a and a little bit of a point and a

530
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:29.400
long cracks and and then there was two pieces of

531
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:39.000
the roots from blackberries, the windy curly stuff where craft

532
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.360
stores will sell it. They'll sell that dried stuff. And

533
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.440
there were two of them laying there right in front

534
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:59.360
of the butt prints, and and I'm like, wow, you know, uh,

535
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.239
the thing know what I was going to be here?

536
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.719
I mean, clearly it looked like somebody sat and waited

537
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.760
for a while. I mean, I couldn't see any other

538
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:16.320
prince besides the big ones. And and then like no,

539
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:21.400
I don't know. A couple of weeks later, I was

540
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.079
staying I was sleeping out in the motorhome, and there's

541
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:31.320
a walkway that you know, out in the grass that

542
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:36.400
I take. It's not it's a footpath, it's there's bricks

543
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.159
out there. But you know, I go off to the left,

544
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:44.519
and unless you're going to go over the bridge US,

545
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:49.360
you're nobody's going to be walking there, and somebody would

546
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.320
have stepped on it big.

547
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.719
So a society will be right back after these messages,

548
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.079
there was laid.

549
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:18.480
Right there one of those little wiggly twigs from the blackberries,

550
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:24.760
and I'm like, all right, but what is this. I mean,

551
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:28.840
there's none of this around here. There's no reason for

552
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.960
to be here, just like down at the at my mechanics,

553
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.320
there wasn't any of that stuff around to be having

554
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.920
two little twigs sitting right out in front of a

555
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.079
big blootprint.

556
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:43.360
Oregon.

557
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:50.679
You said, yeah, yeah, and like that was that's in

558
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:58.480
August or twenty one. Then then you know, probably in

559
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.320
the next cheer three weeks. A couple of times I'm

560
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.599
hearing some stuff out in the garage, and you know,

561
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.559
I know what things sound like, I know what we

562
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.719
have around here. The only thing that I've ever seen

563
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.800
going up and down the little uh, the little seasonal

564
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:23.119
trick that goes through that property is raccoons. And never

565
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:26.199
never have I known a raccoon to go into the

566
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:32.559
into the garage. Birds and just recently a kitten. But

567
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.679
you know, I know what those things sound like, and

568
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.239
you know, they so many people have said, you know,

569
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:49.239
when they know that, you know, then you know you're

570
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:58.840
fine to interact with, you know. I mean, I I've

571
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:06.039
just been amazed it. You know, like last night, last night,

572
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:10.239
I'm hearing sous. You know, we've got Alan's around here,

573
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.079
and sometimes sometimes I really wonder because they don't all

574
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.440
get together and sing all crazy, you know, a bunch

575
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.760
of them competing with each other. But there was it

576
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.280
was going to who and and then there was a

577
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:34.360
really weird sound, just a different tone, and so I

578
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.679
decided to record, and right before I did, there was

579
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:42.679
a who. They just kept and I'm like okay, and

580
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:48.440
I hit record and it all stopped. It had been

581
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.400
going on for you know, stuff had been going on

582
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.519
for like I don't know, five minutes, and then it

583
00:48:54.559 --> 00:49:12.079
all stopped. And let's see uh, okay, the fires in

584
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:20.559
what was it twenty two? Yeah, twenty two in the

585
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:25.639
summer twenty two. I wanted to go up there and

586
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:30.000
go up Wildcat and be near them and get away

587
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:37.719
from the smoke. And I'm driving up and off from

588
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.599
the left hand side of the road. There's bushes, blackberries, rhododendrons.

589
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:49.199
You know, it's bush, it's trees, it's forest. And I

590
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:53.679
catched something in my lights and it's a twig that

591
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.559
I don't know, looks like it goes about eight ten

592
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.920
inches long, come flying up out of the bushes and

593
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:06.199
it hits me in the wheelwall on my driver's side.

594
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.679
What that was all about? Well, actually, do Dodge Park

595
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:23.119
if you look that up, it's mm hmmm. Well it's

596
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:29.159
close by Dodge Park. I've had I found footprints there.

597
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.199
And he looked at the pictures that I sent you

598
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.960
in the sand, the little one that I put my hand,

599
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:44.519
my thumb in hand out to measure next to. Something

600
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:52.559
happened there right right as the last big stage so

601
00:50:53.079 --> 00:51:01.079
hits you know the the sea, big sea word, you know.

602
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:09.199
And Dodge Park used to let people camp. But then

603
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:16.079
right before this all happened, something happened down there and

604
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:21.159
I heard it. I was told by someone at a

605
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:28.559
store who has a fund down there that you know,

606
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:35.199
there were shots fired. And but the people that were

607
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:39.159
down in that area, they do damage control, you know,

608
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.480
they were spoken to. They were a camp host, a

609
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:52.880
husband and a wife who had dogs and lots of dogs.

610
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.599
And he had a heart attack and he died down there.

611
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.559
But you wasn't it wasn't just a fluke. I mean

612
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.679
I heard from the lady at the market that I

613
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.639
used to go to told me about it. But then

614
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.639
when I spoke to a gentleman that I would always see,

615
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.480
he'd come through and pick up cans and bottles and

616
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.000
he had this really big, huge white dog, and I

617
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.880
mentioned it to him and he said, oh no, no,

618
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.880
he had a heart attack. And you know, back tell

619
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.880
I could tell he was he wasn't being truthful with me.

620
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:41.320
But what happened was, I do believe that he saw something.

621
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:45.559
They got dumpsters, They got big blue, black lid dumpsters

622
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.000
down there for people to put their trash in. And

623
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.800
I think, you know, I know where his He could

624
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:56.360
see that one dumpster on the way out. He could

625
00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:01.679
see two different dumpsters from where his home with he

626
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.519
probably saw something and took a shot. I was worried

627
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:12.519
that he had killed it, he had killed a baby,

628
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:17.800
but even I think I think he didn't. And he

629
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.559
got the crap scared out of him, and it literally

630
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.400
gave him a heart attack because you know, he shot

631
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:31.800
at it. It was shot fired, and I mean I

632
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:35.159
think that. You know, at first I thought he had

633
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:39.480
killed a baby, and that really bothered me. And that's

634
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:43.880
when I decided to carve. They got clay down there

635
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.719
in that river, and if you're careful, you can carve

636
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:51.000
it and put it someplace and let it, you know,

637
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.480
stash it in the river somewhere and let it continue

638
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.599
to harden and become a rock. And so I carved.

639
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:03.599
You'll see it on my YouTube. There's a picture of

640
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.239
me holding a heart and it says love on it.

641
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.400
And on the backside, I carved a big foot and

642
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.440
a whole foot and I put it down there. I

643
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.880
sat there and I in the river and I carved it.

644
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.400
And this is like down there at Dodge Park. It's

645
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:29.519
a confluence the sandy. Bull Run comes into the sandy

646
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:31.559
and that's where I prefer to be on Bull Run

647
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.639
because the water is clear. The sandy is clouding in

648
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.400
the sandy and then so I'm sitting there and I

649
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.400
think I was watched, you know, I talked out loud

650
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:48.119
to him if nobody's around, and I made that and

651
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:53.960
I left it. I hid it in the river and

652
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.360
wanted the MoMA to have it, the mother of the baby,

653
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:03.840
I thought die. And I come back the next morning

654
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.440
before I'm like the first person in the gates they

655
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:14.000
opened at seven, and I go down there and it's gone,

656
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:18.840
and I'm like, okay, well did she get it? Did

657
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.039
you guys get it? Did you like it? You know,

658
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.320
I hope you liked it. And I come back again

659
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.519
the next day because you know, it's hot and I

660
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:35.000
can't stand being at home. And I took Olivio what

661
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.119
I found right where I had been sitting and carving that,

662
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.320
and it was a bunch of a bunch of fish,

663
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:53.760
a bunch of eating on dead steel heads. And I

664
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.599
think your show, I think I think I was listening

665
00:55:56.639 --> 00:56:01.639
to somebody who was well maybe it was Stease, I

666
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:08.880
don't know. Somebody mentioned how they would eat ushy, really

667
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:14.760
icky dead fish, and when I saw that there, I

668
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:18.719
was like, okay, that's a sign they that was a

669
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:24.800
sign for me, and then there was a I mean,

670
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:29.599
this is this is a bit neu right here. This

671
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:35.320
is panting light or or whatever you want to call it.

672
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:41.480
When I knew that they were a wildcat and I

673
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.800
wanted to bring them apples, I wanted to keep bringing

674
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:50.360
them stuff, but I didn't want it to just all

675
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.599
go to the deer, and I would I'm telling them,

676
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.320
you know, you know, I don't care if the deer

677
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.199
has some. I just want to make sure that you're

678
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:02.119
going to be here, you know, and and I'm going

679
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:06.280
to give them to you too. Is there any way

680
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:11.039
you can let me know, just just for me to

681
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:16.239
know that you will still be here. And I'm sitting

682
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:20.320
in the dark on Wildcat at this one other place.

683
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.599
It's a really big pull off where people have dumped

684
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.559
I'm dumped a trailer and people sometimes camp there and

685
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.559
it's got the burn, got a big burn. And that's

686
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:39.039
where I got the little admirer on video. And I

687
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.719
look over and it's dark, it is black out, and

688
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:49.840
I see a looks like a star going it's between

689
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:54.880
these two trees and it's going up and down and

690
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:59.000
like it's following a big paper clip, just moving up

691
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.639
and down, and I I took a video because I

692
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.199
was trying to get it, and I didn't mention it

693
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.960
in this one, and I accidentally must have deleted the

694
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.519
one where I spoke about it in. But I'm freaking out.

695
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:19.280
I'm like, I listened to it the other night and

696
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.679
I was like, wow, that that really freaked me out, that,

697
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:26.679
you know. And I was flustered because I didn't I

698
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:30.719
couldn't record it. My camera was able to see it.

699
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.679
And I was like, well, I just got done town them,

700
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.960
you know, you know, give me a sign that only

701
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:39.880
you know that only I don't know, and see sure enough,

702
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:43.079
I couldn't get it, but I got my reaction, and

703
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:49.000
it's like that's genuine right there. I won't see uh

704
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:57.920
so then uh my, oh, And I mean I've had

705
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:05.000
you know, there's been sightings. If you mentioned that bigfoot map,

706
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.440
there's some place where you can look on a map

707
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:15.639
and there's and there's these little green bigfoot that mark sightings.

708
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:24.239
There have been sightings in Boring Absolute And I had

709
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:29.000
I go a back road down here three seventy second

710
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:34.039
or something, and they passes over the spring water trail

711
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:40.639
and it goes up and runs into Palm Lad and

712
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.639
I'm going past this guy's house on the right that

713
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:48.400
has a bunch of hunting dogs. He's got bears, you know,

714
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:54.440
their hounds that sound like beagles, and he's got a

715
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:59.360
tall fence, and there's a bunch of Arboridis running along

716
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.440
the roadside. And I had something. I had something flown

717
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.039
at me from you know, somebody must have been laying

718
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.599
down on the ground and threw something out and and

719
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:14.760
hit my vand I didn't want to know or anything.

720
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:30.320
Let's see. Uh h, I'm I mean, I'm so glad

721
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:39.960
that I document stuff m accidentally, even where I took

722
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:48.800
my son down to it by Eagle Fern Park. It's

723
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:55.440
right on actually North Fork Eagle Creek that dumps into

724
01:00:56.199 --> 01:01:01.519
Eagle Creek, and it's a park. Is a little three

725
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:05.599
little pull off there, and across the road is a

726
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:10.440
walking path that goes up on top of abute bigs.

727
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:13.480
A society will be right back after these messages.

728
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:33.840
And circles around and comes back down and there's absolutely

729
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:39.400
nothing up there. I met a woman that my after

730
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.559
you know, i'd seen her walking and he was still

731
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.039
down there when she came back down, and after, you know,

732
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.519
she there were you know, hurt, any weird noises or

733
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.639
anything strange up there to me, Yeah, she's had rockstone

734
01:01:53.639 --> 01:02:01.280
at her and the same spot. Uh. I took my

735
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:09.079
son there the next day after I had I wanted

736
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:11.039
to give them stuff, but I knew that there was

737
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:14.920
a cat around that I was feeding cat food to

738
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.000
to keep it from climbing after the stuff that I

739
01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:24.559
was leaving for the big hairy forest people. And I

740
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:29.519
pulled this one, well a bit of a sucker off

741
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:33.679
the old dead tree, pulled it down, put it under

742
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:41.000
my arm, started cutting twigs to in pale. There were

743
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.440
hot dogs and maybe there were a litt little sausages

744
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.880
that I was bringing them, and it slipped out from

745
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.719
underneath my arm, and I had reached back up and

746
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.679
bring it down, worked on again, slipped up, lost it,

747
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:58.880
grabbed it again, finally got it done, and I changed

748
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.360
into the video of it and showed, you know, I

749
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.000
got here's this, and then I put over to the light.

750
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:09.639
I broke the little chocolate wax donuts and half and

751
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.079
put them all over in the tree or both right

752
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:18.239
there with it. And then the next morning I came

753
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:23.800
back with my son and the headlights hid it and

754
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:30.480
I'm like, Josh, look at this and go out and

755
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:36.679
I inspect it, and oh my lord, it was nicely

756
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:46.039
woven and held. There was another little sucker coming out

757
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:50.079
of the ground from something else that they freaking attached

758
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.840
it to and wove it to so that I could

759
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:57.760
just easily put that stuff on their hands free. And

760
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:04.639
it sent a bit of a m I had a

761
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:07.079
smile on my face, but it sends a sugar for

762
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:12.079
me because I was like, wow, I'm looking over It's

763
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.239
like somebody was sitting up on that hill watching me.

764
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:25.320
Oh lord, yea, you know. And I found uh found

765
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:29.000
a place where you know, I called it a bigfoot

766
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:34.199
picnic area because there were a bunch of deer bones there,

767
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:40.000
white deer bones. Like wow, yeah, somebody somebody sat here

768
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:49.440
and had a meal. I've got I've got a somewhere

769
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:57.880
on there on my on my channel is and what

770
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.639
a minute for eight seconds? It says that it's a

771
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:07.599
minute forty eight seconds into it where it's probably about

772
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:13.360
twelve o'clock at night, and I have my thermal in

773
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:17.920
my rolled up in my passenger window. I'm facing the

774
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.239
creek and my firm will fafing back towards the road,

775
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:28.559
and I didn't look through it really good to see

776
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.000
how my view was because it's kind of skewed. It's

777
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.960
not centered, it's to the tilted to the right. And

778
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:40.760
here comes a big hairy person walking down the side

779
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.159
of the road, and you can tell, you can see

780
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.639
when they see me, and they start pausing and they

781
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:51.480
like they'll duck down, and then they end up down

782
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:57.480
in a bit of a bit of a dip or

783
01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:01.519
a bit of the bowl in the bushes, and they

784
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:08.199
stay there. My my thermal records, they stayed there for

785
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:13.599
oh there twenty minutes before. I mean, I start moving,

786
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.079
moving the camera to get like, you know, okays going

787
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:20.119
to do a panoramic over the period. So we'll be

788
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.119
here for a little bit. Then I'll skid it to

789
01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:24.960
the left a little bit, and then I'll wait alone

790
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:32.760
and so on. And he flows the rock and he

791
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:37.840
comes up and he gets caught behind a rock, and

792
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.280
then I move it again and that's when he actually

793
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:51.000
runs out in front of my van and he's fallow.

794
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:56.320
I mean, the trees that's in the video is unmistakable,

795
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.239
and I've got many videos and pictures of it there

796
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:03.760
in that little parking lot. And when you look at

797
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:09.880
it in slow motion, when I slowed it down on

798
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.480
my computer and then put it on YouTube and slowed

799
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:19.360
it down to twenty five, it goes so slow that

800
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:27.320
you can indeed tell that it is a male. And

801
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:32.119
it goes so fast in the regular speed. It's just

802
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:35.400
like I watched in the video. I'm like, who is that?

803
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:41.960
I mean, so fast that that the camera can't you know,

804
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:45.800
can't get all of the form.

805
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:55.119
And so yeah, real quick, sorry, real quick, because that

806
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:57.639
parts it extremely interesting.

807
01:07:57.679 --> 01:07:59.719
That is those are some of the clips you sent

808
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:06.559
to me right in the email. Yeah, okay, so that

809
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.960
thermal is those thermal clips are so interesting because yes

810
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.000
there is I mean I've seen a lot and there

811
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:20.399
is a bipedal figure in those clips. It's it's no mistake.

812
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.520
Did you were you able to try to do any

813
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:27.479
tests to see, like figure out how tall that figure

814
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.800
was that you captured on thermal and you like comparison.

815
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:38.520
Testing or that is that is video I show you,

816
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:41.920
I show you a bit of the video and I'm

817
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:46.439
freaking out because I'm like, you can hear it in

818
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:51.039
my voice that I'm in flight mode realizing how big

819
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:55.359
he is and I measured a stick. I had a

820
01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:00.399
love for wood. I just absolutely love you know, the

821
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:06.520
stripped river soft or dried out wood. I've got a

822
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:16.600
love for wood. I what the heck blew up? Oh?

823
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.119
I measured the stick, and then you know, I knew

824
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:25.880
I could tell right where he comes out at. I

825
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.800
can see. I show you the bow, you know, I

826
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:33.000
show you a picture of that spot during the day,

827
01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:39.399
and I even I have somebody go over, and somebody

828
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:41.159
shows up there and I ask him to take a

829
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:43.800
thermal and he doesn't do a really good job. But

830
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:48.720
you know where he comes out at from his waist up.

831
01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.720
I come out from behind that winging my hand and

832
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:59.640
you can't see me. He was She was ten feet

833
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.720
tall and he's got twenty in prince.

834
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:10.359
Oh my goodness. Yeah, he's time to well remind me again.

835
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:17.000
So and the area that this was in again, this was.

836
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:25.359
This was at Eagle Fern On. Let me see Eagle

837
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:30.520
Fern Park. The name of the vi yes, it's if

838
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:35.399
you're there is a road right by it that is

839
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:45.760
called it starts with an am. I think, uh, Eagle

840
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:57.239
Fern Parks And I you know, I I measured, I

841
01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:01.560
did I didn't realize that I could hold my thumb

842
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:06.479
on my screen and keep stretching out and go all

843
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:12.039
the way out to where I first encountered them. They're

844
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:16.840
a wildcat. It is exactly ten miles as the bird

845
01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:27.680
flies that they go ingle for Okay, it is dummy,

846
01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:33.239
dum dumb. Okay. The name of the road, Oh, it's

847
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:46.359
Kitts Miller Southeast k I t Z Miller Road, And yeah,

848
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:50.239
they go up and down that. I mean, there's there's

849
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:53.880
a spot that I pulled over. The creek runs, you know,

850
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:58.600
Northwolk Eagle Creek runs all the way up there, and

851
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:03.840
I can hear it on It's not even Wildcat anymore.

852
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:10.439
It's it's a forest development road. And the spot that

853
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:16.000
I saw at was at the beginning of the trail

854
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:20.840
one oh five going up to Wildcat Mountain Trail ahead,

855
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:26.119
and I can hear nor. I can hear North Spark

856
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:32.920
Eagle Creek sitting there, and I mean, there's there's a

857
01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:35.479
spot where you know, I took a video walking back

858
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:38.600
in there and I was going to check it out,

859
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.279
but it was like, oh, well, there's one break, I

860
01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:47.520
mean bow down they were. They were breaking down limbs

861
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:50.960
and making it so I had to duck underneath them.

862
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.359
And when I ducked underneath the third one, I was like, yeah,

863
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:59.600
I don't think anybody's wanted back here that And along

864
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:03.159
that road it is where I got that footprint, and

865
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:11.199
I wish I'd had casting materials to do it. And

866
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:20.239
let's see, uh, down there at the one spot that's

867
01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:27.520
that's where you know, right across from him walking off

868
01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:30.960
and behind that street is that little gravel parking lot.

869
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:33.439
You know, you can set three or four cars in

870
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:38.359
there if you could. And he knew he knew, I

871
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:44.960
mean from from where recorded at. He was right across

872
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.520
the road, and you know he's probably fifty feet away,

873
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:53.920
sixty feet away. He knew we were there. And you know,

874
01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:01.079
then later that night, he's no way earlier earlier. He's

875
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:05.720
down in the creek and he tosses a pebble to

876
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:12.239
distract my son and he ends up. He's looks like

877
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:15.199
he's on shore when he tosses the pebble, but then

878
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.920
you know, a few minutes later, it looks like he's

879
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:24.800
laying out in the creek on his back. And let's

880
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:28.000
say there's there's one where I got it, And I

881
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:32.000
was like, wow, what what's this. It was the one

882
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:37.359
where he stands up big and Harry stuck like shrucks. Oh.

883
01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:41.960
I called it big boy rising for his ease, okay,

884
01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:46.880
And it's got a funt going around him up there

885
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:52.600
on the on the thumbnail. And I went and I

886
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:56.560
did a comparison. I went ahead and I set up

887
01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:59.680
my frmal during the day in my window like it

888
01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:05.199
was when I was getting him and or to match

889
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:08.520
the same, you know, to match the screen. I got

890
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:10.680
it as close as I could, and then I walked

891
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.560
down there and I walked up the hillside to where

892
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:19.600
I thought I found where he come up from. But no,

893
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:27.199
there was another one there, but it never stood up.

894
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:31.239
There's a second there's a little bitty a dot of

895
01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:35.399
the heat's signature below him, and that's where I went,

896
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.720
and I was like, oh my gosh, he was. He

897
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:44.399
was a lot further up that hill, so he was

898
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:49.479
he was further away and higher up. So you know,

899
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:53.279
as big as as big as he looks coming up

900
01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:58.520
from his little spot up there, he's huge.

901
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:18.159
Big society be right back after these messages, you know.

902
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:22.319
I mean, if he's two foot tallis got at least

903
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:28.880
four or five foot shoulders and you know, standing there.

904
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:33.159
When I went over with my stick to measure, I started.

905
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.399
My voice is shaking. I mean you can hear it.

906
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:39.800
And I'm breathing heavy, like I've been running or something.

907
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:45.640
And I stand there and I realized, oh my gosh,

908
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.840
if he was standing here, I don't even want to

909
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:57.880
think about it, you know. I mean, my head's you know, yeah,

910
01:16:58.279 --> 01:16:59.960
my head's not even up to his belly butt.

911
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:01.039
That's wild.

912
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:09.880
Yeah yeah. And then you know that, uh, that night

913
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:17.560
that I got squeezed like Sharman was Actually I just

914
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:23.840
put this clip up and it's only forty two seconds.

915
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:29.319
It says the night I was squeezed like Sharman. And

916
01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:36.279
I don't know my son's got the camera. But down

917
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:44.279
on the creek, somebody comes up from it's it's tall,

918
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:49.239
it is from from where he's standing. His head sticks up.

919
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:56.399
The creek is probably down ten feet maybe, and he

920
01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:01.960
stood up on this on the uh on the hillside,

921
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.439
and peeked up over the roots of the tree. And

922
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:10.159
he was just there for I mean a split a

923
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:14.600
few seconds or not even not even a whole second.

924
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:25.159
It was crazy. Uh, that that was the night that

925
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:35.159
I got I've got the video footage of the over

926
01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:41.520
sibling and the younger one running toward down the creek,

927
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.439
and I mean when I when this happened, and I'm

928
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:49.319
like looking at the at the video, I'm talking to

929
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.000
myself and I processed it out loud and I'm like

930
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:56.960
and I'm right there. I went back. It was during

931
01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:02.119
the day, and I'm talking to the camp and saying that,

932
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:07.319
you know, if that couldn't have been their mother, because

933
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:11.159
their mother wouldn't have been running ahead of them and

934
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:15.119
leaving them behind, it had to be an older brother

935
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.800
or sister. And that's when it hit me. It was like,

936
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:24.920
oh my gosh, this this group is the same one

937
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:29.720
from up world chat and they just come down the

938
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:36.920
creek and I've got you can see where the stick

939
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:42.319
gets tossed, comes out and it bounces in the grass.

940
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.439
And that's when I had told my son had the

941
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.640
thermal and I had the spotlight, and I said, did

942
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:53.239
you hear that? And he's like what And I said,

943
01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:58.199
it sounded like something moushing through grass, like a foot

944
01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:01.880
or a bunny rabbit or something, and he's all ware

945
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:05.800
And I pointed this spot light out to the right

946
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:08.640
in front of me about I don't know ten feet

947
01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:14.359
out and I said about there, and he's like, I'm

948
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:18.800
ready to go. I want to go. He hadn't told

949
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.039
me what he'd been touching on the funnel, but I

950
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:24.520
told him. I said, you know they're here. I know

951
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:29.000
I can tell they're here, but they don't mean any harm.

952
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:34.279
And so I, after finding out on the video, I

953
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.399
was like, well, I was just off. You know how

954
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:40.720
if you turned your head you can be mistaken to

955
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:44.600
where the sounds coming from. It was actually to the

956
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:50.039
left that that stick landed and I found it and

957
01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:55.359
it matches the one in the video, and it's from

958
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:59.039
the dash of my van that they threw at me

959
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:02.239
when they didn't throw at me, to just threw it

960
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:09.399
out there to distract. And then shortly after that you

961
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.319
wanted to leave, and I did a build on my van.

962
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:19.640
It is it is wall the wall, all the inside

963
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:25.199
is tongue in drew climb and on my door you

964
01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:28.399
can't stay through the window anymore. It's all paneled. And

965
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:33.359
I made a pulled down table that would be held

966
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:38.600
up with a little chains and from it getting slam

967
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.720
shut because you know everybody's got to slam the door shut.

968
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:48.359
It gets well compromised and it would fall down and

969
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:50.039
I'd have to pull it up before I, you know,

970
01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:51.840
put it back up before I could open the door.

971
01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:54.399
And so it had done that when my son got

972
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:58.439
out and shut it, and he was like, you know,

973
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:01.039
I'm there. You go and he goes around to the

974
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.600
door and he opens it and he gets up. I'm like,

975
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:06.840
hold on, I've got to go in there and fix

976
01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.319
it so you can get in. And I'm wearing the

977
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:14.399
same rubber boots that is in that picture where I

978
01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:19.239
found that big twenty inch print. And so I get

979
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:24.920
in and I've taken out my passenger seat and it

980
01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:28.600
is got a case in it, a fireproof case, and

981
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:33.199
it's put a woodstove in, and I've got a bench

982
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:36.439
like a pull down bench in the middle, and I'm

983
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:41.479
laying across that one night belly diagonally to fix the door.

984
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:47.720
My feet are hanging out my driver's door, and he's right,

985
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:50.840
you know, the door's open a little bit, like I

986
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:54.520
don't know, three inches. He can see that I'm there,

987
01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:56.439
and I can see that he's there, and he's really

988
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:01.800
wanting in, and all of a sudden, I feel on

989
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:09.079
my right foot a gradual squeeze very slowly and softly,

990
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:17.359
like they're they're coming. They're feeling that rubber, they're feeling

991
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:20.560
the rubber boot and that it's giving. You know, I'm

992
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:23.159
not feeling it out, So they're they're waiting untill they

993
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:29.960
run into my flash. And I didn't hear myself, but

994
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:34.119
I know I started kicking and flailing, and the thought

995
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.000
that was going through my head was, oh my god,

996
01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.840
I'm gonna get drug out by a bigfoot. I had

997
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:44.159
him been screaming. I had to make noise because my

998
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:48.239
son went from running around the friend of the land,

999
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:51.239
and by the time he gets to my door, I'm

1000
01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:55.960
standing there outside on the ground and I said, did

1001
01:23:56.039 --> 01:24:00.960
you grab my foot? And he's like new and God

1002
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:05.840
bless them alone along the pieces. He reminds me of

1003
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:13.880
e Or And he didn't. He did not squeeze me.

1004
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:18.319
He was right outside the door when that happened. But

1005
01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:26.600
you know, our our denial system worked to protect us.

1006
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:30.760
And when we got home, we came out into the

1007
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:36.119
motor home and I started I downloaded that stuff and

1008
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:41.079
and was thinking about what it happened. And I'm like,

1009
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:49.479
I'm like, you know, no, you didn't. You you are

1010
01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:55.439
I you, your denial worked to save you too, to

1011
01:24:55.479 --> 01:25:00.199
protect us, because I said, picture it. If I I

1012
01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:03.640
had said, you know, did you grab my foot, my uncle,

1013
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:07.239
then you just said no, and you'd feel all that

1014
01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:11.000
we had gotten in the van and I would appeal

1015
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:14.600
out of there. We very likely would have ended up

1016
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:22.159
going into Eagle Creek when I turned right on that bridge. Yeah,

1017
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:28.479
I mean, And so that was the last time he

1018
01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:33.079
went with me, and it kind of did. It did

1019
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:39.520
to him what I was talking about earlier, that it

1020
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:40.520
happens to some people.

1021
01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:40.800
I mean, he.

1022
01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:49.680
Fell off the face or he's homeless. Last time I

1023
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:53.439
heard he was living under a bridge and Portland and

1024
01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:56.319
I you know, I don't know, I don't know what

1025
01:25:56.439 --> 01:26:01.239
happened to him, but I know that then it messed

1026
01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:04.560
with him. I mean, he got we went to on

1027
01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:09.079
that On that way going out to Eagle Front Park

1028
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:13.720
is another place we called the fish Ladder, so on

1029
01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:17.399
the right hand side, and you know, people aren't supposed

1030
01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:19.039
to go in. They've been trying for years to keep

1031
01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:23.039
people out, but good luck with that. It's fun and

1032
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:28.119
it's beautiful. And I took him down there to see

1033
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:32.239
how high the water was. And when you come back.

1034
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:36.560
I was ahead of him down walking down the path

1035
01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:42.439
back to the van, and he was probably about thirty

1036
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:46.079
feet behind me, forty feet behind me, and he heard growl.

1037
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:53.039
He got growled at, and that scared the crap out

1038
01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:58.119
of him. And you know, they don't they seemed him

1039
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:03.000
for the most part a time of men. I was

1040
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:12.560
really surprised that then got graled at. But uh, you know, oh,

1041
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:19.840
maybe someone will here this. Maybe whoever did this will remember,

1042
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:26.079
of course and recognize that it was them and write

1043
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:28.800
in the comments or send you an email or something

1044
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:32.960
that it was snow and it was still snow on

1045
01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.279
the ground up Wildcat. I took my son with me

1046
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:43.359
and we stopped at where I first filmed. Got my

1047
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:48.640
little admirer on thermal and when I go out and

1048
01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:53.079
he's he's skinny and and got me on his bone,

1049
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.520
so he gets pulled easy and he wouldn't come out

1050
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:59.479
with me. So I walked across the road and I

1051
01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:06.039
find I find big, big footprints. I mean they look

1052
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:10.520
like a shoe because the rounded, but I put my

1053
01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:13.439
foot next to it and you know it's not a

1054
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:18.920
snow shoe and it's huge and right there, going along

1055
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:25.600
with it are wolf some wolf prints. And so then

1056
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:30.399
I crossed the link to go toward the logging road,

1057
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:38.479
and I'm always looking down and I'm recording, and I'm

1058
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:45.359
like a handprint. It was a big handprint, and I

1059
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:50.600
put my hand over it, you know, it's like two

1060
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:57.039
inches more and two inches longer fingers. And I go

1061
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:02.960
into immediate flight, sounding like I'm freaking out and just

1062
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:11.039
run a marathon, and and I'm like, wow, you know, okay.

1063
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:15.199
I keep going go around the gate, and I see

1064
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:20.960
some friends that look like, hmmm, those those look suspicious.

1065
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:24.239
And I keep going down and I didn't fit. But

1066
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:28.560
in in my video there is a bleak bottle to

1067
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:36.000
the left, and I end up noticing something further down

1068
01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:40.319
the road on the right hand edge as a gravel road,

1069
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:44.399
and I walk down there and I'm like, what's this

1070
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:48.880
it is? It looks like kind of like you know,

1071
01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:52.159
a paint can or a big coffee can, only it's plastic.

1072
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:58.520
I didn't bother to continue reading the applications on it,

1073
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:10.079
but I think somebody wanted to get some prints, wanted

1074
01:30:10.119 --> 01:30:16.079
to do some uh you know, plaster cur some molds

1075
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.039
because you can't do them in the snow. I didn't

1076
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:22.079
realize that gotta have the right stuff. And I think

1077
01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:27.079
like maybe there was a truck there and that handprint

1078
01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:31.159
was him, you know, getting down and looking around the

1079
01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.760
back of his truck down the road at.

1080
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.720
The guy begs a society will be right back after

1081
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:38.039
these messages.

1082
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.920
And then seeing and knowing that he wants to take

1083
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:01.640
a cast of his footprint, and it probably pissed them off.

1084
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:07.600
I found a pile of I said, oh, this looks

1085
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:12.279
like past her perish and it's powdering white. And that's

1086
01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:15.600
when I looked down and I saw that container probably

1087
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:19.239
about twenty or thirty feet down the road, maybe forty feet,

1088
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:29.840
and you know, it's colored in small, not dense, but

1089
01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:34.039
the paper has been It looks like a pattern like

1090
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:39.239
it got hit against something that that just took little

1091
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:42.119
pieces of paper off. It was really weird. But it

1092
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:46.840
also looks like it got angrily squeezed and broken like

1093
01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:50.640
fish like, you know, not a pop can, but but

1094
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:58.359
something brittle. And yeah, I think I think somebody had

1095
01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:00.359
the food scared at him when they're we're going to

1096
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:03.439
take cass. And there were some tissues down there too

1097
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:10.640
that really mhm freaked me out. I was it scared

1098
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:14.520
me out. I walked down filming at night with the

1099
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:17.880
flash on and got the tennis shoe to my foot

1100
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.479
next Jade laying there, and then turned and ran back.

1101
01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:25.600
I know that they have that they have been here.

1102
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:32.119
Oh oh wait, mind speak. That was it. After my

1103
01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:39.399
little admirer squeezed me like sarmon, I was like, I

1104
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:43.560
go there and I talk out the windows in the dark,

1105
01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:50.760
and I hung my hand out the door at the window,

1106
01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:54.439
and I'm telling him, you know, if he wanted a

1107
01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:58.439
little admire if he wanted to touch me, let me know,

1108
01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:05.399
you know, give me some sort of you know sound sign,

1109
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:10.560
like like a baby something happy, like a baby cooling,

1110
01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:16.279
is what I said, like a baby cooling. And kept

1111
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:20.399
talking and little and I ended up. H I go

1112
01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:23.199
back and go back a lot. But I think it

1113
01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:28.239
was about a week later. For some reason, I needed

1114
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:30.319
something out of the back and I didn't want to

1115
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:34.720
crawl through from the inside. So I got my lamp

1116
01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:38.479
and went around some my slider and opened it and

1117
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:41.359
I was looking around for stuff in there, for something,

1118
01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:46.880
and all of a sudden I hear like a really

1119
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:53.039
loud panting pappy puppies is what it sounds like I

1120
01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:59.720
whirled around screaming. I still cannot to this day, but

1121
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:04.720
how I screamed. It sounded like something out of a

1122
01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:11.039
horror movie. It was so loud and nothing, there was

1123
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:18.039
nothing there. So I get back in my van and

1124
01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:22.239
it's like, wow, you know that that that just happened.

1125
01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:26.079
I mean, I knew what it was. I you know,

1126
01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:31.399
I knew what it was. And there. You know, when

1127
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:37.359
you're born with an ability, that doesn't mean that you're

1128
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:40.159
going to be able to do it right from the gate.

1129
01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:43.239
You know, you've got to learn how to and you know,

1130
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:49.680
control it. And I think clearly that that this little

1131
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:52.640
person and this little hairy person needed to work on

1132
01:34:52.800 --> 01:35:00.399
their volume because it was really really loud. Well starting

1133
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:04.479
to share it because I'm sitting out in my in way.

1134
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:09.079
It could be hot. That isn't hot to stay cooler

1135
01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:19.319
in the heat. Mm hmm mm hm. Oh my gosh,

1136
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:23.680
I can't believe this. I've never I mean, this is

1137
01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:30.800
just it's a bit u oh what not overwhelming, Well

1138
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:34.359
maybe a little bit. To be able to talk about

1139
01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:39.920
all this stuff. I just yeah, I think about I

1140
01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:44.000
think about all the people that you've had on that

1141
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:50.680
you know, like I can relate to, you know. I

1142
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:56.039
mean when I showed up up there on the Wildcat

1143
01:35:56.520 --> 01:36:00.239
and that little guy was looking out, I mean from

1144
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:04.680
behind that tree. You know. He I think he was

1145
01:36:04.800 --> 01:36:08.239
like she was in awe. He was like, I think

1146
01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:13.399
they can they can see our oris, you know they can.

1147
01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:18.720
You know, it's like you have a neon sign flashing

1148
01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:23.760
hanging out her neck that you know they can tell.

1149
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:30.079
They can tell that you're you know, you're a good person.

1150
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:39.680
And I can't believe that, you know, all the hearing

1151
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:44.319
somebody say that all all the bad experiences were red ones.

1152
01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:48.399
But I mean that's that's where they are. I mean clearly,

1153
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:56.319
because you know, someone who wants to kill you or

1154
01:36:56.479 --> 01:37:00.039
eat you isn't going to run down the road and

1155
01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.760
wait for you to stop you from crying by showing

1156
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.600
themselves to you like that, right, And you know he

1157
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:11.479
covered himself, covered its face up so he didn't make

1158
01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:13.479
me start crying for a different reason.

1159
01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:16.000
That's really interesting.

1160
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:23.159
Yeah, And I've heard I've heard a time or two

1161
01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:30.199
where one hid behind they saw him sitting up on

1162
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:34.600
a cliff side on the road and they were sitting

1163
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:38.039
there holding a tree right between their legs in front

1164
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:45.560
of them. I mean, there's they are a people. They

1165
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:49.760
are and you know, they they have a language, they

1166
01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:57.520
understand us. You know that they're I'm sure they're gone

1167
01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:02.000
to live longer because they are ground. They're they're not

1168
01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:12.960
wearing river soles and and ungrounded from the earth. Yeah.

1169
01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:19.560
And and you know, I mean Patty, she's got a

1170
01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:22.920
hair on her face. She you know, she looks different.

1171
01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:28.920
There's there's more than there's more than just one kind

1172
01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:32.600
out there. I mean they there are ones they look human,

1173
01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:39.199
that look like you know, and Neanderthal big dalage.

1174
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:41.520
So if you go off of the just the reports

1175
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:46.039
that i've you know, received, there are different kinds. They

1176
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:49.680
look different in different parts of the US. That's without

1177
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:50.720
question for sure.

1178
01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:57.920
Yeah yeah, yeah, like the ones down in a Florida

1179
01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.760
or smaller exactly. Yep.

1180
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:05.239
The further south you get they are they are smaller

1181
01:39:05.279 --> 01:39:10.319
for sure, and reverse the further north you get, you know,

1182
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:13.000
up in Alaska they're they're much bigger, you know, and

1183
01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:19.000
up north in Canada. But you know, Lisa, you're the

1184
01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:23.319
things you've experienced so far over the years is just incredible.

1185
01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:26.399
But I would love to, you know, just while I've

1186
01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:30.039
got you here. Have you ever heard of anything going

1187
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:32.239
on south of you? Like I'm going to be down

1188
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:36.680
in the Willamette National Forest soon down near like oak

1189
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:39.399
Ridge area. Have you ever heard of anything happening down there?

1190
01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:50.399
No? No, but I did. I have been listening to

1191
01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:52.319
you say how you're going to go down there, and

1192
01:39:52.359 --> 01:39:54.760
I've heard I've heard some of the stuff that was

1193
01:39:55.960 --> 01:40:00.800
that was talked about that. Oh when was that guy's

1194
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:06.600
name that you just had on it? His stuff happened

1195
01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:07.960
around there really close.

1196
01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:11.720
Oh, there has been there's been cool. Yeah, there's been

1197
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:16.560
the gentleman out by Spirit Lake. There's been the gentleman

1198
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:21.079
where his dog got thrown up in a tree. I

1199
01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:25.880
guess that was a little bit west of Oakridge. But yeah,

1200
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:30.520
there's just man organ is just is full of wild

1201
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:37.159
stories but also really you know, interesting stories like the

1202
01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:41.279
ones you've shared that maybe are not super aggressive, but

1203
01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.640
are also very interesting to analyze, you know, how they

1204
01:40:44.640 --> 01:40:48.680
are interacting with humans, you know, and the way that

1205
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:49.399
you've been sharing.

1206
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:54.199
I think you can, I think you can kind of

1207
01:40:56.359 --> 01:41:01.439
look at it and if you compare it to us.

1208
01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:13.439
We are raised being told stories, being told you know, experiences,

1209
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:17.640
you know, Okay, well, this kind of stuff happened in uh, Mississippi.

1210
01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:20.439
So you know that they grew up hearing about you know,

1211
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:27.680
Billy Joe are you know? Yeah, Billy Billy Joe mccalisterns

1212
01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:31.079
and boss of Tallahatchie Bridge. You know, you just you hear,

1213
01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:39.319
you hear different stuff. You're raised on different histories. Uh.

1214
01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:44.920
And you know I I heard someone uh say that

1215
01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:48.479
that they are told when they reach a certain age,

1216
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:52.079
they are told about us a little hairless ones. And

1217
01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:56.560
you know, I can only imagine the thing is that

1218
01:41:56.600 --> 01:41:59.600
they're told because we are not nice or I shouldn't

1219
01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:03.159
say we because I'm not a mouse in somebody's pocket.

1220
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:08.439
You know, they're not nice, And I mean that's why

1221
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:15.479
you know they know what guns are? You know, they

1222
01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:20.960
they there's the reason why they don't like us, why

1223
01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:25.359
they don't trust us. And if they can tell, if

1224
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:31.600
they can tell a person's intent, that says a lot

1225
01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:35.000
about missing for allowing one hunted the hunted, you know,

1226
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:42.159
I mean, when you know they're looking for another hunter

1227
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:47.880
and they accidentally find a young man shoved up underneath

1228
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:53.399
the root system in a tree, and you know who's

1229
01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:59.479
going to do that? People ask about the red eyes

1230
01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:06.880
I listen into some guy interviewing Stevensdall, and you know

1231
01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:12.920
it's like they got this this little problem with the

1232
01:43:13.159 --> 01:43:19.319
eyes uh illuminating someone within, and it's like, well, you know,

1233
01:43:20.680 --> 01:43:24.039
I'm a thinker, I'm you know, I'm a truth seeker.

1234
01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:32.479
I dissect and we know about you know, optopus sea creatures,

1235
01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:39.720
they can change their colors, lizards, and so there's you know,

1236
01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:42.920
there's a there's a reason for it. It doesn't just happen.

1237
01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:46.720
And I mean they're they're either hunting, it's a survival thing.

1238
01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:55.159
It's either food or safety. And our eyes have rods

1239
01:43:55.199 --> 01:44:00.239
in them that are for night vision. And I've heard

1240
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.119
somewhere quite a while back that we have somewhere between

1241
01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:13.319
seven and nine in each eye and big for it

1242
01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:16.079
in the sasquatch big Harry folks and white being called

1243
01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:22.800
that other stuff may can see quite clearly at night.

1244
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:26.119
I mean, there's this one guy, I haven't seen him

1245
01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:29.239
put up any videos in a long time that he's

1246
01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:35.119
called we do it Outdoors and he actually he actually

1247
01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:39.840
uh cut out some of one of my favorite videos

1248
01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:44.800
of his that I recorded, that part where he gets

1249
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:49.239
he gets drug off. He's out with his brother I think,

1250
01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:53.720
and he gets drug off and you see at the

1251
01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:56.640
end of the video you see upside down a slick

1252
01:44:57.239 --> 01:45:01.520
two feet walking away. But he took this one thermal

1253
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:04.479
and his device. He holds it out in front of

1254
01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:07.399
him like it's for an electrician or something. It's really

1255
01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:11.680
way more expensive than mine was, I'm sure, but he

1256
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:15.199
told me he's like you see him. You see the

1257
01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:19.359
big guy walk along, reach out, push up a branch

1258
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:22.720
out of the way and step over probably a log.

1259
01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:29.520
But it is pitch black out there, so I think

1260
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:37.479
that you know, they know that there. Maybe they have

1261
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:44.359
a thermal maybe that is actually thermal viewing wait to view,

1262
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:53.159
and that the AI that they made, the thermal imaging

1263
01:45:53.319 --> 01:46:00.760
that I have was reverse engineered and they would need

1264
01:46:01.239 --> 01:46:07.279
a big hairy person to dissect. And you know, I

1265
01:46:07.359 --> 01:46:11.760
don't know, or maybe maybe a sense of red, but

1266
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:18.039
I do believe that that glow comes from their loots.

1267
01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:23.079
You know, they do something maybe you know, maybe it

1268
01:46:23.159 --> 01:46:28.119
has to do with like when that guy said he

1269
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:34.560
was he was spoken to you, or you know, this

1270
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:38.000
big hairy guy stepped out. He had seen his arm

1271
01:46:38.039 --> 01:46:40.960
in his hand on a tree and he stepped out

1272
01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:43.840
and was standing there and he like he quinched his

1273
01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:47.960
fifth back and forth like in like an anger.

1274
01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:52.960
Maybe big so society will be right back after these messages.

1275
01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:15.399
Possibly, and he felt he felt something come to him like,

1276
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:18.640
you know, what do you what are you doing here?

1277
01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:21.479
What is your you know, I took this type thing,

1278
01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:25.680
and he felt inclined to speak out loud and tell

1279
01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:31.840
him that he didn't intend him any harm, that he

1280
01:47:31.960 --> 01:47:35.239
only carries you know, the side arm out of habit.

1281
01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:41.039
And but the guys, the big hairy guy's eyes went red,

1282
01:47:41.159 --> 01:47:45.960
they started glowing, and so I'd have to re listen

1283
01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:48.520
to that and see exactly when they started growing. But

1284
01:47:49.920 --> 01:47:55.479
it's you know, you live a marine life deep down

1285
01:47:55.560 --> 01:47:59.960
in the old thing. Organisms have something in their system

1286
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:03.920
that can a line up like a mean light. So

1287
01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:09.359
I mean, it's not it's not all alone with possibilities,

1288
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:14.560
and I can really easily imagine it. Absolutely.

1289
01:48:14.720 --> 01:48:19.760
It is so many interesting theories and and things to

1290
01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:25.680
consider that Lisa has been such a such an interesting chat. Uh,

1291
01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:28.920
you're different things you've encountered, and I'm just thankful we

1292
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:31.279
were able to get you on in order that you'd

1293
01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:34.720
be able to share the whole story. So thank you

1294
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:35.479
for coming on.

1295
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:43.920
I've seen fairy I've got footage of fairies too, right

1296
01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:47.199
down there at that at that same spot where I

1297
01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:53.479
got squeezed, and they're on there too. They're you know,

1298
01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:59.680
first and first video being operation or whatever a fairy

1299
01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:04.399
hill I call fairy hill. You know these things are.

1300
01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:09.680
They seem to be about two inches around and flat.

1301
01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:12.560
You know, when it went up a tree. I've got

1302
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:17.479
footage of a shrew on that same weird tree that

1303
01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:22.920
the big guy went in front of and showed his gender.

1304
01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:26.800
I've got a shrew going up that tree. So you

1305
01:49:26.840 --> 01:49:31.640
know this one o'clock in the morning. It's not a spider,

1306
01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:35.840
it's not a squirrel. It's not a bird going around

1307
01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:41.680
having to from tree to tree, looking like going through

1308
01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:47.439
holes that are all over that landscape like they look

1309
01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:53.359
like you know, funnel webs. How you know, the formation

1310
01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:58.960
of it. It is not something that rodents did when

1311
01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.560
they're out off from the ground, away from the ground

1312
01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:06.960
and they're in the shrubs and they're just they're holes.

1313
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:14.000
They're little tunnels made into the foliage and through some

1314
01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:19.479
of the naughty bar the tree roots out there on

1315
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:25.840
the hill. I mean, and they knew, you know, that

1316
01:50:26.079 --> 01:50:28.720
night that I got that first solution, I'm like, what

1317
01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:33.000
are these? I'm like, I'm thinking what came to mind

1318
01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:37.600
was tinker Bell because some of some of the footage

1319
01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:48.000
you see a bit of a a thermal jet stream,

1320
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:50.880
you know, like when Tinkerbell goes running off and you

1321
01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:54.000
see the glitter going behind her. If a bit of

1322
01:50:54.039 --> 01:51:00.399
a heat signature from them going through the air. And

1323
01:51:00.439 --> 01:51:05.119
that night I went home and I'm looking looking for

1324
01:51:05.199 --> 01:51:10.159
fairy stuff and I happened upon some guy that had

1325
01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:17.840
There was a website where he's he started a collection

1326
01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:22.279
like in fourteen fifty two or something way back, and

1327
01:51:22.600 --> 01:51:28.640
all these creatures had been caught and kept and in

1328
01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:34.319
wooden boxes. And there was one of a faery that

1329
01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:40.680
had a queen or Queen Elizabeth Penny sitting next to it.

1330
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:45.600
And you look at that penny next to that figure,

1331
01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:47.960
and that thing looks like it's about two inches tall.

1332
01:51:48.920 --> 01:51:57.560
And on on my on my YouTube, I have there's

1333
01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:07.960
a video very short and it says wtf is that?

1334
01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:11.479
And there's the thumbnail is the picture of that fairy.

1335
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:18.079
And then a piece of videos that I accidentally caught

1336
01:52:18.359 --> 01:52:21.800
something flying around in a bush that you know it

1337
01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:26.600
wasn't an insect. It wasn't a bird, and I mean

1338
01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:32.319
they're very huge. They're down at the water when Josh

1339
01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:37.960
is getting that well, the one through a rock when

1340
01:52:38.039 --> 01:52:41.840
it like comes up out of the water and does

1341
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:48.000
an art and then it goes back down. I've got

1342
01:52:49.039 --> 01:52:54.600
eyeballs that are that have got to be big boy,

1343
01:52:54.680 --> 01:52:58.319
and they're like ten foot up this tree that's behind me.

1344
01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:02.520
I mean that it's kind of all kinds of stuff

1345
01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:04.359
m that.

1346
01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:08.520
It feels like there's gonna be definitely more more things

1347
01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:11.239
to talk about in the future. I would imagine, who

1348
01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:12.199
knows what will happen.

1349
01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:24.000
Yeah, I pissed one off up low Low Pass. Did

1350
01:53:24.039 --> 01:53:31.720
you when I left the fire burning? Yeah? Yeah, he

1351
01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:36.760
hit the side of my van and knocked a pot

1352
01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:44.119
off of a shelf. I mean I I didn't. I

1353
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:47.239
was startled by the pot, but I didn't know what

1354
01:53:47.279 --> 01:53:49.720
it was. And then the next day I get up

1355
01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:52.119
and I go out and I'm like, wow, all that

1356
01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:54.960
would burned all the way off. I had a big

1357
01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:57.800
pile out there. But then I moved to a different

1358
01:53:57.840 --> 01:54:01.960
spot next door because I left and I wanted that spot,

1359
01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:06.640
and I was going off and I was recording. I

1360
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:08.479
was going off, and I was going to cut some wood,

1361
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:14.720
and I found I looked off in the bushes and

1362
01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:19.640
I found a very specific, recognizable piece of wood that

1363
01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:23.000
I have out in the motor home that he took

1364
01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:27.039
off of the fire. He dismantled my fire and he

1365
01:54:27.159 --> 01:54:31.680
took it, walked a little walkway down on the edge

1366
01:54:31.680 --> 01:54:35.319
of the creek, and he threw it off in the bushes.

1367
01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:39.279
And I found it, and I apologized and told them,

1368
01:54:39.319 --> 01:54:41.359
you know, I got I got downs the water. I

1369
01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:45.319
brought it down to the fire pit, and I said,

1370
01:54:45.359 --> 01:54:47.520
see here, I've got water. I will not you know,

1371
01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:54.039
I will not do that again. But I could feel him. Wow,

1372
01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:55.119
I could feel him right there.

1373
01:54:55.159 --> 01:54:58.159
And did you see any tracks outside at all around

1374
01:54:58.640 --> 01:54:59.439
the van or.

1375
01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.880
No? I didn't. I didn't look, and I didn't realize that,

1376
01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:10.079
you know, I didn't realize. I thought I had just

1377
01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:13.439
knocked it off, because at that time I was sleeping

1378
01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:17.159
with my head behind the driver's seat and it goes

1379
01:55:17.199 --> 01:55:20.640
diagonal from the driver's seat back to the left corner

1380
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:23.119
the right corner, so my head was down there, and

1381
01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:25.239
I just thought i'd knocked it off, but I didn't.

1382
01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:27.720
He got peeved.

1383
01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:36.359
Extremely interesting stuff. I hope that that one interaction doesn't

1384
01:55:36.439 --> 01:55:38.760
repeat itself in the future. It sounds like most of

1385
01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:43.520
your interactions are pretty peaceful, so we'll hope that continues.

1386
01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:46.279
Which one the squeeze one?

1387
01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:51.760
Well, I guess the squeeze one. I mean, did that

1388
01:55:51.880 --> 01:55:54.079
leave a did it leave a bruise at all?

1389
01:55:54.199 --> 01:56:01.079
Or no? No, gently squeezed me like like the Lola Sharmany,

1390
01:56:01.680 --> 01:56:06.079
gradual until he ran into my into my solid flush.

1391
01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:09.319
So I would say that's a peaceful interaction, right, I

1392
01:56:09.399 --> 01:56:11.960
mean it could have been much worse for sure.

1393
01:56:12.399 --> 01:56:15.159
Yeah, I mean it was misunderstood, but then you know,

1394
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:20.439
I mean they knew when I said, you know, he

1395
01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:24.960
had you know, a sign something, you know, the sound,

1396
01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:31.199
something nice like tewing, a happy cuing baby. They didn't

1397
01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:33.800
have a Korean baby to compare it to, but they

1398
01:56:33.800 --> 01:56:39.239
were told, well, I'm thinking they're around dogs, so they

1399
01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:41.079
know what a happy little puppy sounds like.

1400
01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:48.880
Right, M so interesting, Lisa. I appreciate you coming on.

1401
01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:52.720
Did you have any you know, as we start to

1402
01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:57.439
wrap up our first time chatting together, did you have

1403
01:56:57.479 --> 01:57:02.880
any closing thoughts about the sass squatch as a you've

1404
01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:07.199
said that as a forest people as how you you've

1405
01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:10.560
mentioned them a few times.

1406
01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.920
Yeah, I mean there's more than them out there, you know.

1407
01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:20.560
I hope, I I hope I never see a dog

1408
01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:24.520
man that you know, those those eyes that I'm looking

1409
01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:30.159
at right now on my page, it kind of looks

1410
01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:32.239
like at first I thought there was a bit of

1411
01:57:32.279 --> 01:57:36.479
a blaze of white blaze going up the forehead, but

1412
01:57:37.119 --> 01:57:44.359
that may not be. And and yeah, out I don't

1413
01:57:44.399 --> 01:57:49.199
know out in the sun, they can depending on their skin.

1414
01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:56.079
I've I've seen where there's one guy that I watch

1415
01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:06.760
his name is his name is Sunny Sunny Later Letter,

1416
01:58:08.199 --> 01:58:11.960
and he has he's got footage of the same big

1417
01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:16.880
hairy guy over years, and I can tell from he's

1418
01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:22.199
got a white beard. And with his first video that

1419
01:58:22.439 --> 01:58:24.279
was like, I don't know, seven or ten years ago.

1420
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:30.119
His he looks like he has one big dread like

1421
01:58:30.239 --> 01:58:34.359
he's he's nappy. It's not long and flowing or anything.

1422
01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:37.560
And it just grew. It's like his hair got taller.

1423
01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:43.039
And when he's got one video where he's got a

1424
01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:48.239
there's a camera sitting up facing their tent or facing

1425
01:58:48.239 --> 01:58:52.239
the hill behind the tent, and here's this big figure

1426
01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:56.600
creeping in behind the bushes, and he looks really dark.

1427
01:58:56.680 --> 01:59:00.880
I heard somebody describe his the same skin color where

1428
01:59:00.880 --> 01:59:07.399
it was like kind of a h a gray, you know,

1429
01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:13.399
kind of Indian looking dark. You know, there's no there's

1430
01:59:13.439 --> 01:59:18.279
no brown in it. I mean, it's it's like a

1431
01:59:18.359 --> 01:59:23.039
smoky gray. But then when he starts creeping off stage

1432
01:59:23.159 --> 01:59:28.840
light the sun hits him through the shrubbery and his

1433
01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:34.399
skin turns white. His skin looks lighter, so you know,

1434
01:59:35.439 --> 01:59:41.239
these squinchy eyes. I look at it and really hope

1435
01:59:41.279 --> 01:59:47.119
that it's not it's not a dog man. But when

1436
01:59:47.159 --> 01:59:51.680
I looked, I mean that that bean is about eight

1437
01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:55.199
feet tall at least based on where it was standing

1438
01:59:57.520 --> 02:00:00.479
up the wall cap. Stuff.

1439
02:00:01.159 --> 02:00:04.520
Be interesting to see if there's other people that reach

1440
02:00:04.600 --> 02:00:07.880
out in the comments that I've had interactions in that

1441
02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:12.439
same Wildcat area. I've heard other I've feared heard a

1442
02:00:12.520 --> 02:00:15.279
little bit about it from other people, but I think

1443
02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:19.319
we might get some other things too. But Lisa, thank

1444
02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:22.560
you so much for chatting tonight. It has been a pleasure.

1445
02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:30.359
If there's anybody in the area, in my area that

1446
02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:37.960
doesn't have somebody to go with, I would love somebody to,

1447
02:00:38.439 --> 02:00:43.960
you know, go out there and you know, I I

1448
02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:48.840
don't feel real safe, you know, being out by myself.

1449
02:00:50.159 --> 02:00:57.319
Sure, I'll put your youtubee in the description and maybe

1450
02:00:57.359 --> 02:00:59.279
people can reach out to you in the comments of that,

1451
02:00:59.479 --> 02:01:01.399
or is there an other way that they should reach

1452
02:01:01.439 --> 02:01:08.760
out to you.

1453
02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:11.000
Well, they can, they can reach out to me in

1454
02:01:11.039 --> 02:01:16.000
the comments, or you know, maybe if you don't mind,

1455
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:18.880
and they emailed you, so.

1456
02:01:20.279 --> 02:01:24.239
That that's I will say that I don't do that

1457
02:01:24.279 --> 02:01:29.039
anymore because there have been ones where I have had

1458
02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:31.640
to answer hundreds of emails and it takes up my

1459
02:01:31.880 --> 02:01:35.560
entire days. So I try to not do that game anymore.

1460
02:01:35.760 --> 02:01:40.039
I apologize. But the comments might be a good good deal. Yeah,

1461
02:01:40.079 --> 02:01:45.600
if you don't have a direct just keep an eye

1462
02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:49.960
on the comments. I suppose so, But thank you for

1463
02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:54.199
thank you for chatting tonight, Lisa, and I really recommend

1464
02:01:54.199 --> 02:01:58.720
people check out Lisa's channel. There's some really interesting thermal

1465
02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:03.399
footage shots on that channel, so definitely check that out.

1466
02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:05.439
But thank you, Lisa.

1467
02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:09.399
Yeah. Thanks Jeremoria.

1468
02:02:10.439 --> 02:02:13.479
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1469
02:02:13.520 --> 02:02:16.720
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

1470
02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:19.600
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1471
02:02:19.640 --> 02:02:24.159
it for myself. Well, guess what. This year you can

1472
02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:27.800
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1473
02:02:27.800 --> 02:02:32.760
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1474
02:02:32.840 --> 02:02:36.439
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1475
02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:40.600
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1476
02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:43.319
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1477
02:02:43.359 --> 02:02:48.840
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1478
02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:55.119
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1479
02:02:55.239 --> 02:02:57.199
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

1480
02:02:57.359 --> 02:03:00.000
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1481
02:03:00.159 --> 02:03:05.239
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1482
02:03:05.359 --> 02:03:10.199
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

1483
02:03:10.239 --> 02:03:13.399
not only go to the festival, but you can also

1484
02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:21.000
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1485
02:03:21.079 --> 02:03:25.760
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

1486
02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:29.680
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1487
02:03:29.800 --> 02:03:33.359
up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed

1488
02:03:33.920 --> 02:03:36.640
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1489
02:03:36.800 --> 02:03:39.760
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1490
02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:43.000
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1491
02:03:44.640 --> 02:03:48.079
To get a ticket. Head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1492
02:03:48.159 --> 02:03:52.720
dot com and listeners can use the code b SP

1493
02:03:54.039 --> 02:03:57.520
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

1494
02:03:57.600 --> 02:04:01.840
day pass for the price of a one day. So

1495
02:04:01.880 --> 02:04:06.920
thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that

1496
02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:12.239
you guys can can get a little help with the

1497
02:04:12.279 --> 02:04:15.680
cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you

1498
02:04:16.399 --> 02:04:19.920
at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk

1499
02:04:19.960 --> 02:04:22.359
about your encounter. Was able to talk to so many

1500
02:04:22.399 --> 02:04:26.000
people last year and the year before. It is an

1501
02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:28.680
incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

1502
02:04:28.960 --> 02:04:33.439
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

1503
02:04:33.479 --> 02:04:36.079
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1504
02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:39.600
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1505
02:04:39.880 --> 02:04:42.600
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1506
02:04:42.640 --> 02:04:45.840
can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or

1507
02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:49.319
forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

1508
02:04:49.359 --> 02:04:52.960
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1509
02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:56.119
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1510
02:04:56.159 --> 02:04:59.680
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1511
02:04:59.680 --> 02:05:02.720
to talk about, and if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1512
02:05:02.800 --> 02:05:06.399
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1513
02:05:06.560 --> 02:05:09.560
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1514
02:05:10.520 --> 02:05:13.399
on a remote oil field or a trucker with government

1515
02:05:13.479 --> 02:05:17.079
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1516
02:05:17.119 --> 02:05:20.760
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1517
02:05:20.960 --> 02:05:24.319
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1518
02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:28.079
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1519
02:05:28.239 --> 02:05:31.399
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1520
02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:33.840
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1521
02:05:33.880 --> 02:05:38.439
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

1522
02:05:38.560 --> 02:05:42.239
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

1523
02:05:43.239 --> 02:05:48.079
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

1524
02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:51.359
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

1525
02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:56.239
what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

1526
02:05:56.439 --> 02:06:01.520
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1527
02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:04.079
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1528
02:06:04.119 --> 02:06:07.319
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1529
02:06:07.399 --> 02:06:09.920
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1530
02:06:10.600 --> 02:06:12.880
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1531
02:06:12.920 --> 02:06:16.119
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1539
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1540
02:06:39.880 --> 02:06:43.039
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1549
02:07:08.920 --> 02:07:11.800
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1550
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1551
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