Feb. 1, 2026

MonsterQuest Director Comes Forward with HIS Encounters!

MonsterQuest Director Comes Forward with HIS Encounters!
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Season 1

In this episode, we sit down with Jared McGilliard, director and executive producer of MonsterQuest, as he steps out from behind the camera to share the encounters that shaped his understanding of the phenomenon. From the dense forests of Washington’s North Cascades to remote regions tied to decades of unexplained activity, Jared recounts experiences that go far beyond television production.


Drawing from his time investigating cryptid cases around the world—including extreme expeditions into the Himalayas—Jared reflects on the moments that stayed with him long after the cameras stopped rolling. He describes locations passed down through generations, a singular place in the Pacific Northwest tied to repeated activity, and the unsettling realization that some encounters don’t fit neatly into any known explanation.



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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome

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back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Jared mcgilliard today. Jared is the director and an

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executive producer of the show Monster Quest. Currently. How is

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it going today, Jared?

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Ah, that's great. Jeremia, how you doing, dude?

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Doing so good. I'm just really glad that our mutual

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friend Adam Davies was able to connect us in. Adam

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reached out and was like, you should talk to Jared.

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He's heading up the Monster Quest thing. I was like, yeah, yeah,

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I think that that would be a good idea. Adam

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I'll do that, and Adam we trust yeah exactly. Well,

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I was like, as long as he could, does he

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have bigfoot stuff to talk about? And he's he's got

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bigfoot stuff to talk about. I don't worry about it.

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I have to I could have. If I know Adam,

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I must have some bigfoot stuff to talk about.

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Exactly. So, Jared, man, let's start with the Monster Quest stuff.

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You know, I've seen a few episodes already and it's

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cool to see, you know, really people that I consider

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to be my friends from this community show up on screen.

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You you were able to get some really good witnesses.

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Can we talk about I'm not going to spoil anything, right,

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it's out in the open now, So that's all.

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Right, it's out there. Let's talk to.

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I mean, you were first episode, right out of the gate.

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You were able to get mister Martin Groves such a

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fantastic story, his dog man account from Land between the Lakes,

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and Martin's such a such a great individual. And then

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of course a good friend comes to mind, mister Daniel Hamilton.

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Daniel yeh, and man.

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You guys did a great job showing his encounter and

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it really makes you think about it. A different way, like,

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oh yeah, he was up in the tree, in that

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tree stand and that's what was going on. And it's like,

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oh my goodness, I love what you guys are doing

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with this stuff.

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Oh thanks a lot. Yeah, those stories, yeah, Martin was Yeah,

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I love Martin. Just what a sweet, kind, generous guy.

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And you know, Martin, we owe a lot to just

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in terms of the show coming to be at all,

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because that was the story we actually filmed for the

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development or sizzle step that actually got it across the

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finish line and had History fully commissioned the series. So

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Martin's story was sort of like alas our north Star.

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You know, it's hard to start with someone like Martin

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and then you have every other story try to stack

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up to it. But now he's so generous with his

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time and his story is just I mean just unforgettable,

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unforgettable story. And Daniel's great. Yeah, I love Daniel. He

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just his story was you know, it's there. I love

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those stories that have like that weird element to it.

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It's like you just couldn't you. The untying of a

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shoe is just the most bizarre occurrence, you know, and

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and sort of I love those aspects of those stories

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that I feel like very one of a kind, and

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his story definitely feels one of a kind like that.

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Listeners will listen to this on February second. And as

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of so the second, how many episodes will you have out?

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Do you think?

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I thought it'll be our six episodes, so six of

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the eight. Yeah, and the episode coming up this week

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is great. I mean, I don't know if Annem Barton,

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Nunneley Barton.

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Oh you got Barton?

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Oh? His is His story is just it's actually one

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of my favorite edits stories and just editing pieces of

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the series. It's got such character to it and it's fun.

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It's just and the music is kind of unforgettable. I'm

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really excited to see that. I'm always more nervous for

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like Barton to see his story, you know that. I

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just feel like a lot of pressure with that. But

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Barton's great. This guy named Michael Caine who hadn't encounter.

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Yeah, Michael in Ohio.

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Yeah you got it, yep, the grass Man, you got it?

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a little bit, right. Yeah.

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Yeah, Michael is great, and his story is just just

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also very cool and weird. And he's got some cool footage.

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So yeah, there's we have a Times slip story Gwen

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Johns and Gwen John's but a Times slip of this

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Friday is really interesting, nice and uh and then a

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woman named Joni Mayhem who had an encounter when she

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was a kid as well. So yeah, really cool stories.

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But Barton, Barton and Michaels are real fun. Yeah, I'll

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be excited for you to see this, Jeremiah.

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And that's why another reason I really like the show

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right now, because half of it it is like, oh,

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I really I know this person, I know this story.

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It's a new interpretation for me because it's bigfoot stuff.

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But then also you're throwing in other stuff too, which

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is like I've never heard of this, and this is

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really cool. So it's kind of a cool mixed uh bag.

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But you know, Jared, let's talk a little bit about

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you know, you have a history of doing so many shows.

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I was looking through Nomadica Films your website and you've

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done everything from you just did the was a Golden Greed,

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the Netflix series right that was you and and all

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sorts of stuff in the past. But how did you

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get set up in linked up with the Monster Quest

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series because you know, this isn't the there was Monster

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Quests back in the day, and then out of nowhere,

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it's back, like how did that happen?

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Yeah, yeah, it's a cool story. I mean, I think

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I'd always been interested in in encryptids. I grew up

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in the Seattle area, Washington State, so you know, big

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Sasquatch and Bigfoot was definitely just part of my the

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culture of where I grew up. And then you know,

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years and years and years ago, in the original installment

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of Monster Quest, I produced one of their episodes and

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we went to Nepal looking for the Yetie, and so

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that was sort of my first time. That's where I

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met Adam, and I really you know, I think that

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the way that that the initial episode, initial series of

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Monster Quests approached these types of stories and investigations, it

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was so objective, it was so it was very trying

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to be as scientific as it could be, and I

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really appreciated that. I thought that that was like such

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an interesting approach both for sort of like believers and

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non believers, you know, and so I honestly these this

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sort of cryptid world was something obviously I met Adam.

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Adam and I talk a lot, and so you know,

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this has always just been a part of an interest

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level of mine and you know, where as you said,

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in America, like we're we're pitching whether it's Netflix, History Channel,

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Discovery Channel constantly, and so we had sat down with

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a History channel and we're batting around a few ideas

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and you know, sort of a cryptid show came up

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and it wasn't Monster Quest, you know initially, which is

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sort of, hey, this could be a really cool show.

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There's more sightings and there's more you know, with social

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media and podcasts like yours, it's like there's more access

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to more stories than ever before. And I feel, you know,

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I was thinking about like why why now is a

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good time for bring it back? And that for me

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was kind of like a big reason. It's like there's

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just access to so many stories. And yeah, it started

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as a conversation and then you know, we ended up

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shooting a little development tape with Martin and put a

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deck together and sort of outlined our vision for what

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the series would be, and they went for it. And

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then they eventually decided to sort of put it underneath

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the Monster Quest banner, which I was thrilled with I

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was honestly, it was like such an honor to sort

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of feel like, oh, we're bringing it back because it

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was such a you know, it was a big part

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of my history, Monster Quest, and I just always thought

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it was such an awesome show. So that's kind of

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how it all came to be. But it's been a

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really thrilling way to spend the last year and a

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half of my life. Just tunneling into into the world.

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We just had conversations with people, and long conversations, I

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mean really talking about you know, and someone's going to

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be hey, you should meet such and such person, or

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you should talk to such. You know. We really wanted

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to make sure people understood what the show was and

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what the show was not. You know, this wasn't a

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show where we were trying to prove or disprove someone's encounter,

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you know, where we're trying to undercut it or you know.

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We really were just trying to present these stories as

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objectively as possible and then build the history around them.

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And the history was fascinating to dig into. You know,

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it's some of these occurrences I would have thought when

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we met the witnesses oh, that must be just a

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one off. There's no such thing as a one off experience.

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I mean, there's just there really isn't. But it truly

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was word of mouth. I mean we talked to hundreds

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of people, you know, and I hear hope the other

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season because there's just so many more amazing stories and

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I think, you know what we you know, you kind

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of start in the casting process and you know, you

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sort of you have like your top tier, and then

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you kind of fill it out. And obviously each each

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episode is themed. Now that we've been through the first season,

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so many of those stories that didn't quite make it

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for that first for the first season, like I would

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be thrilled to bring into the fold. And I'm sure

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you know a lot of those people. I mean, there's

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just there's no shortage of these of these encounters, and

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they take you all over the globe, all over the

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United States, all different types of people. There's not a

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type a person that necessarily like has these encounters, you know.

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So yeah, it was really it was all word of mouth,

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but really just trying not to I really wanted the

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show to be defined. It is defined truly by like

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the witnesses and I really wanted credible witnesses that not

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only would speak to the people who are already within

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the crypto community and know them, but also to people,

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you know, the general history audience that maybe didn't watch

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the you know, the first installment of Monster Requests that

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are coming fresh and I so, I, you know, finding

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people that I felt were speaking very confident, with a

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lot of credibility, with sort of like you know, like

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the Daniel Hamilton details. It's like why you know you

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could so you know, I was looking for specific ingredients.

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It was strength. It was a great storyteller. You know,

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I don't know if you know.

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The judge was Shane the dog Man story, right.

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Yeah, but I mean he's such a He's an amazing storyteller.

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You know. It's like he delivers his story with such

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confidence and clarity and incredible detail. And I think, no

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matter whether you are somebody who is a believer or

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non believer, or it is the first sort of Crypti

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story you've heard, or like the one hundredth or thousandth

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Crypti story you've heard, that confidence, level of detail and

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that I think someone speak with means a lot. So,

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you know, in terms of the casting and how he

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found people. That was really it. It was a lot

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of zoom calls, very long zoom calls, and then obviously,

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you know, I get them down in the interview chair

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and then it's a you know, two to three hour

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two to three hour conversation where you're really trying to

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pull out those details and those feelings and slow down

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the story. But it was a blast. Yeah, it was

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a lot of fun.

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So are you having to like travel around the US

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and meet people where they are or is it a

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mixture like some people are coming to your studios or

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like how does how is that working for this?

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some people we flew, we flew into Seattle, we filmed

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all everything here. Other people, you know, some people weren't

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comfortable traveling or weren't able to travel, so we sort

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of set up these little satellite areas where you know,

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it was kind of close to some people. Martin for

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the development, we were able to go out, you know,

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to his home and he took out the land between

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the lakes. I wish we could do that for every

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story because it's just I mean, selfishly, it's just a fun,

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such a fun experience to sort of walk in their

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shoes and you know, sit shotgun with Martin and just

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just you know, just spend time with those people. But

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for the most part, yeah, it was a pretty quick process.

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sit down for a while, talk a little bit about

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their story that they really feel confident and share, you know.

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try to approach interviews is I truly am like enthralled,

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you know, like I am I am, I am locked

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in when I'm listening to these stories. And that was

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a lot of fun. But most people, best case scenario,

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could fly them out here because it just made it

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really easy for us. But some people we did go

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out to where they were.

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That's awesome. Man. I was thinking, and maybe maybe this

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is a thing where you know, I haven't been able

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to watch all of it of course yet, but it

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would be really cool if you could get Adam's story

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on one of the episodes. And I'm talking about the

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Southern Oregon portal one You've heard Adam to say that one, right.

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I think I've heard that story. Adam has a lot

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of stories. Yeah, story Adam, Adam Davies. You can only

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stay away from Monster Requests for so long. I feel

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like he is due. He'd just sit in the chair. Yeah, yeah,

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he'd be great, he'd.

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Be okay, good stuff. It's it's a such a such

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a great encounter. In my goodness, it's so so good,

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it's so Regarding the current season on Monster Quest, is

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there any chance we can get the old graphics back

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with the super you know what I'm saying, like the

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crazy graphics? Can we get that back?

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Yeah? You know, it's funny. We had that conversation with History,

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and I think they really wanted to sort of feel

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like there was an evolution. You know, there was like

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I know within the community, there's like we can't hear

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the graphic, like it's like some of those really classic

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elements from from the old series. You know. I think

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History really wanted to sort of freshen it up. I

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would say a little bit, but absolutely I missed those

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those original graphics and the original It's just there's something

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you know when you have that, it's like it makes

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it's like a it's like a hug, you know, it

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really is.

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a lot from the community and they're like, they're like

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on their knees, they're packed, like, give us history, give

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us the old graphics back. We want to see those

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old graphics. And like, who knows, maybe history, maybe not,

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but hey.

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I'll make a push if we get more. I'll make

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a strong push. I promise you, I'll make a strong push.

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All right. There, I'll give you full credit for for

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for making it happen.

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There you go, there you go. I've seen even people

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on TikTok making videos about I'm like, oh my goodness,

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this is a pretty big deal. Okay, all right, it's

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cool though.

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It's neat to see how like the the original series

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it was, it meant a lot to people, you know,

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introduced I think a lot of people to the worlds

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of cryptids and on a global scale, and I think

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to some very cool people within the crypti community like

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Adam Davies and Jeff Meldrum and a lot of people

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that were that were doing some really really cool work.

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So yeah, I totally get. I totally get the the

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want to have that that original those original graphics back.

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So that's just me throwing my little two cents in there.

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But you know, Jared, can you take us back to

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I think it's fascinating that you were involved with the

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first Monster Quest in the Nepal episode. Do you have

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any memories of of what it was or stories you're

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able to share what it was able, what it was

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like to be able to be, you know, in the

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filming or involved with that episode, and any cool things

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you had happened over there.

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Oh man, I mean how much time do you have,

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JAREDI that was a that was a lifelong memory. I

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feel like almost died on that shoot. Like it was.

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It was, it was, it was. It was an incredible adventure, harrowing.

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So yeah, I mean we had you know, I had

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been brought on to basically do mostly the field production

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of that of that episode, so I connected with the Adam,

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you know, and it was like, hey, Adam, you want

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to go to the Paul. I'm looking of the Yeddi

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and you know, I think you know, Adam's pretty game

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for for very basically everything. Oh yeah, and then I

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really was into trying to find get in touch with

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this guy named Ian Redmond who was this He's this

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great ape expert. He used to work with Diane Fosse

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before she was murdered, and you know, for and I

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didn't know where in the world he was, you know,

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I remember was just like sending random emails and just

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constantly trying to get in touch with him. And then

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one day he finally emerges and he called me like

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three in the morning and I saw this this number

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I didn't know, probably from the UK, and I answered

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it really quickly and it was it was Ian. He's like,

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I'm sorry, I was I was outstudying cave elephants and

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I had like a like a wire tied to my

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foot so when they left the when they left the cave,

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it would wake me up. And I was just like,

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oh my god, this guy's incredible. And I was like, well, Ian,

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I'm going to Nepal, you know, to look for the Yeddi.

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You want to come, And he was like, I love to.

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And so that was it was really cool to have,

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you know, Adam obviously who's there. He had such such

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great knowledge of the Yeti and the history and and

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Ian came from much of the scientific background, his his

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histories with great apes, and I just thought that was

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such a cool a cool team. And then we brought in,

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you know, a lot of the focus on that was

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trying to go back to the place where they had

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found some evidence. And so there was this old climber

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named Yagihara, really cool guy, and Yaghi had basically was

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up in this really remote area of Nepal, very high altitude,

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and it's seen a print a track, and it you know,

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sort of was it was. There's some headlines about it,

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some information, and so I got in touch with him

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and I said, hey, well you lead us back to

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that area where you found that track. Now, Yagihara like

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he's summited Everest multiple times. I mean, he's a very

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accomplished climber, which was cool. I mean a lot of

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the stories of the Yetti are from local folklore and climbers.

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You know, you have Ryanald Messner and different climbers that

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have that really access these remote parts of the world.

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So the other thing we had done, because this was

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sort of before the age of drones, not that drones.

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I'm not sure drnes could actually operate up that altitude.

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New Zealand or Australia, and they had built us this

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this helium platform which we attached a infrared camera to

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and then it had a signal down that Adam or

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whoever could hold and so at nighttime we could basically

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lift this thing up anyway we get to Nepal. I

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mean we were very ambitious. We had we helicoptered out

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to this remote village drop in. We had thirty six

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sherpas bringing you know, all of our gear. I guess

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six day trek deep into the Himalayas. I remember there's

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this guy and I still have Actually, this is it

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right this is it right here? So this little piece

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of twine right here is a very famous piece of twine.

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This is the twine that he wrote He used to Basically,

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he had a giant helium tank and he wrapped it

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around his forehead like this in flip flops and hiked,

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you know, and trecked, you know, five days carrying this

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thing with this piece of twine. So when he was done,

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I was like, can I have a snip of that twine?

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I feel like that's like the most epid piece of

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twine I've ever seen. And so anyway, we went up there. Uh,

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every day was it was, it was. It was tough going,

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you know, straight up, straight down, straight up, straight down,

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met with some remote villagers who had stories along the way,

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and then we sort of reached this point and sort

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of the plan was always to sort of split the teams. So,

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you know, Adam and Ian were confident that there was

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you know, there was the area that Yagy had gone to,

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which was very very high altitude, and then there was

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this other area down below that was more along a riverbed,

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and you know, Adam and he were both like, the

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riverbed is truly more of the habitat likely for a

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creature like this, more than this sort of desolate, high

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altitude place where Yagy saw that that print. So we

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split so half, and I mean my crew is like

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just my buddies. I mean that's kind of like the business,

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right you kind of you say, hey, hey, well you

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want to go to the pall with me? So you know,

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nobody's Sean and Ryan are with me, So they stuck

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with Ian and then Adam myself, this guy named Mick

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who was sort of in charge of that aerial platform

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and Yagihara. We continued up. Now our expedition company that

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we had hired to sort of, you know, help coordinate

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this whole event. They're like, you're not going to encounter

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any snow this type of year. Don't worry about it, Jeremany.

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The's snow everywhere everywhere, and we're just on this pitch.

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We we eventually get to this pitch and it is

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no joke. The mountain is like this and there's no trail,

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so you're with you know, you're just sort of walking

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with your feet like this. And I'm not I don't

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love heights, but somehow, with my jobs, I always end

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up in those situations. But you know, like you're walking

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like this, creating basically like a twelve eighteen inch little

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walkway that you can walk along. We get up to

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this location, I mean gorgeous though, I mean just yeah, yeah,

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I love those moments in life. You're like, how the

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heck did I get here? Like just amazing. So we

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scouted the area. We put up the balloon at night

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a few times, didn't catch anything, but my DP, who

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I had worked with multiple times, I mean, I'm already

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realizing I'm skipping over a few parts of the story

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that are great. There are places where like, like the

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trail we on was not like a hiking expedition trail.

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It was like the old you know, the Nepal was

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a monarchy and it was overthrown by the mouse, and

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so it used to be this sort of The rebels

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used to live up in the mountains and they would

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use these trails to basically get into get into more

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of the of the city. And so there were areas

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where the trail was completely gone and you had to

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almost basically free climb over this cliff and like where

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all legs are shaky, and then you'd have like these

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you know, local villagers whore just walking it like it's nothing.

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But we get up to this altitude and this DP,

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this guy named Jeff Rhodes who was incredible and summited

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Everest twice in a day, just really accomplished climber. He's like, listen, Jared,

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what we just did was incredibly dangerous. Like we gotta

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get that, we gotta get we we yeah, I know,

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you guys have evac insurance. We should evact because if

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someone's slips, there's we have no ropes, we have no

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cramp bonds. We have like nothing, nothing to sort of

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like if something goes wrong and so and no one's

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faul you know. It's just like knowing that the expedition

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company didn't expect snow and anyway. So all so we

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finish our filming, we go to the place of the track.

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We don't we don't quite get the information we want.

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But it was a great expedition, great story was starting

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to go. So cool to go back up there with

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00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:36.200
the akikara and and it's just me and my little

460
00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.039
crew of like four to five people. Uh Adams Adams

461
00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:43.240
there too, and all the surp was left. And I

462
00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:46.440
remember I gave all the all my flashlights and torches

463
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.559
because I was like, I'm not gonna need this helicopter's

464
00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:50.359
coming to pick us up. We won't need it. So

465
00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:52.559
we're sitting up there the snowfield. We clear off this

466
00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.839
big helicopter landing plaid and there's only one helicopter in

467
00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.920
all of Nepal that can reach his altitude, just one.

468
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.079
So we hear it come dun d d. He was

469
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:05.640
coming up through the mountains and you're seeing it come

470
00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:06.960
in and you're like, oh man, this is I'm just

471
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.240
like this is epic trip out of here. It's going

472
00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:12.480
to be so cool. It comes, it cir goes once,

473
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:17.279
it cir goes twice, and it leaves, and then we're

474
00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:22.359
just like, oh, we had very little food, we had

475
00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:25.720
very little water, we had all of our gear. Uh,

476
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.920
it was only the lead sirpa. It was mb he

477
00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:34.000
was our sadar up there and his nephew and it

478
00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:37.559
was just my crew, and we're like, we have no choice,

479
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.799
Like basically, basically the wind shear was too high that

480
00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.039
he couldn't land. He was too fraid of using a crash,

481
00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.119
and so it was probably actually, I guess it was

482
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.519
probably middle of the afternoon, and it was a two

483
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:52.559
day trek up to this place, and so we quadruple

484
00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.440
up our loads on our packs and we just start

485
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.440
heading out. And I remember at one point, I remember

486
00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.440
thinking like my legs were starting to shake, imber thinking,

487
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:04.319
oh my god, I'm mentally like, I'm mentally beating myself.

488
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.839
I remember I gave myself a strong pep talk, but

489
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.920
people were crying scared. It was. It was harrowing, and

490
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.960
we climbed out of there. All through the night, we

491
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.519
walked pitch black. I had Adam gave me this little

492
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:21.240
like a little pencil light, like probably the size of

493
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.000
this little pen right here, you know, like the size

494
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.480
of my thumb. And it was and it was it

495
00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.000
was flickering. The battery was just about to go because

496
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.160
in the cold, you know, batteries go real quick. Remember

497
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.799
I just pointed at my feet and I would just

498
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:36.119
remember walking down, down, down. I remember trying to envision

499
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.039
that my legs were just tree trunks, cause my knees

500
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.559
hurt so bad. We dropped thousands of feet in elevation.

501
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.640
We finally get to the camp, must be like three

502
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.599
in the morning, four in the morning. People are waiting

503
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.400
up for us, and by my Signar just breaks down

504
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.720
in tears. He's like, I'm so sorry we failed you. Anyways,

505
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:56.079
you know, all these moments, all these adventures were in

506
00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:57.960
the moment you're like this is crazy. Then you get

507
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.359
through it and you're just like that was awesome. You know,

508
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.960
it's like an incredible experience. The guys down at this

509
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:05.960
stayed down at the river with Ian saw a couple

510
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:09.079
of cool found a couple of cool skeletons of different creatures,

511
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.599
but no sign And I remember Ian said a couple

512
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:16.160
things to me on that trip that really stuck with

513
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:20.119
me in terms of sort of me understanding. You know.

514
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.240
I was sort of thought, how can these cryptids exist

515
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.079
and we don't see them, you know, or we see

516
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.000
them in times, but there's no like the photographic video

517
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:32.799
evidence is minimal. We're not seeing any bodies. And he

518
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.920
was like, listen, you know, he said, you know, even

519
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.559
the mountain gorillas of Arunga, they weren't found until not

520
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.559
that long ago. Before then, they were just like the

521
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:47.519
idea of their traveler's tales and local folklore. And not until

522
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.039
two British adventurers went and killed one and brought it

523
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:54.039
back did science finally recognized the mountain gorilla as more

524
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:57.079
than just local folklore and travelers tales. And here in

525
00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:02.279
Nepal we have a creature in the that is probably

526
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.039
less a number in a more remote area. And he's like,

527
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:09.039
we may not have seen that YETI, but if the

528
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.680
YETI does exist, it's a high likelihood that YETI saw us,

529
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.480
you know. And that perspective, that scientific perspective, it's it

530
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.559
is really carried with me until today, you know, And

531
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:25.960
I think like that that I love that feeling of

532
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.599
understanding that there's more out there in the world than what,

533
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.119
like you know then what then what science? Or what

534
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.400
you know? Within what What we're told as where kids

535
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.839
growing up is like these are the biological you know animals,

536
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.039
These are the animals that we share this awesome planet with.

537
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:41.119
And so, yeah, that gave me a really cool perspective.

538
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.839
But man, that was such We did end up getting

539
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.400
picked up by a helicopter eventually and and flown and

540
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:50.119
flown back to Katman do. But man, that was a epic,

541
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:51.799
epic adventure.

542
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.720
Oh my goodness. It's such a cool story. I mean,

543
00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.960
for for one reason, outside of all the adventure, it

544
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.640
shows that. So I think a lot of the community

545
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.519
when they heard, oh, Monster Quest is back, it's like,

546
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.279
I don't know that name. Uh oh, I'm scared. Is

547
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.759
this gonna be okay? Does this guy? Can this guy

548
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.680
protect our precious Monster Quest? And this guy, Jared, you've

549
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:21.480
been through adventure encrypted related things, like you're not just

550
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.880
some random Joe off the street like oh yeah, I'll

551
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.839
do monster quests and it'll be cool, Like you've actually

552
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.400
been out in the trenches. So it's it's a very

553
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:34.799
cool example of like the show is in good hands,

554
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.400
I'd say, so, thanks.

555
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:37.960
Lot, I appreciate it. I think the one thing that

556
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.559
it really gave me access to is just under meeting

557
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.039
people in the community, you know, and I and I

558
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:47.559
and that that really I think the perspective of the

559
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.759
cryptive community is something that I really brought into it

560
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:54.279
and wanting wanting the series to meet their expectations. You know,

561
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.599
obviously it's not just for that community. It's for a

562
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:02.319
general audience as well as for believers, non believers, skeptics.

563
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.359
But I really, you know, knowing knowing the community, you know,

564
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.000
being close to Adam, you know, having a great admiration

565
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.400
for people like Martin Groves and Martin not only a

566
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.319
lot of the people that we interviewed, the judge. I

567
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.880
just really wanted it to be great. I really wanted

568
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.839
to be great. And man, we worked our butts off,

569
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.960
like we really we really obsessed about this thing and

570
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.279
really lived it and wanted it to feel like it

571
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:28.200
was a you know, I missed the days of the expeditions.

572
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.960
I wish we were still going out going on these

573
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.960
great adventures and expeditions. It's not where media is right now,

574
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.440
but I feel like I felt like with this that

575
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.920
we could do something pretty special still, and I really

576
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.319
appreciate you saying that that we're we're hitting the mark.

577
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.160
A story you told you gave me a little bit about.

578
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.640
I'm kind of excited because it's it's I think it's

579
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.720
a bigfoot thing, and I have no idea about the

580
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.960
people to do with this story. And I like, I've

581
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.079
been doing this for about seven years and it's at

582
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.880
the point where it's like, I know, like most of

583
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.759
the stories, right, but this, I think is going to

584
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.680
be a totally new one for me. So I'm really

585
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.880
curious to hear. You know, what happened when you went

586
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.559
out with Adam Davies and it was the area of

587
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:19.039
the PMW and a home to the Big Guy. What

588
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.480
happened with that?

589
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.839
Yeah, So I had come back from I'd come back

590
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:28.279
from the Paul, and obviously Adam and I had had

591
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.000
kept in touch and we were coming up with all

592
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.079
types of different ideas and Adam is he's hilarious because

593
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.240
he goes on these expeditions and he's an adventurer, but man,

594
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.440
you know, just like me, he gets winded really quickly

595
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.079
and it creates the most comical, funny moments, and so

596
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.000
we were sort of coming up with all these different ideas.

597
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.519
But he was coming to the Northwest at that time,

598
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.759
and I was living in Seattle, and he's like, Hey,

599
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.519
I'm going on this going up to the north a

600
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.119
place in North Cascades with this woman named Laurie Simmons,

601
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.680
And Laurie Simmons is a daughter of this guy named

602
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.880
Donald Lee Wallace. And Donald Lee Wile Wallace was this

603
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:10.279
sort of really famous sort of bigfoot researcher, I would say,

604
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.160
back in the day where he lived. He lived there

605
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.759
for twenty eight years, and this guy just had tapes

606
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.400
and piles of cassette tapes that he just recorded. I

607
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.279
just sort of envisioned this guy with sort of like

608
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.599
a those old school tape recorders around his neck and

609
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.400
he just walked through the woods just recording, just recording

610
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.240
the sounds of nature, hoping. I think that he would

611
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:32.039
record a bigfooter sound like you know, Ron moorehead type moment,

612
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.880
serious sounds like something that that really is, like, man,

613
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.720
what that is a sound I not ever associated with

614
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.680
nature before, you know, because I think when we think

615
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.519
of evidence, you know, we think visual evidence, we think

616
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.319
auditorial evidence, we think all different types of things, that

617
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.640
of something that stands out, that's a little bit outside

618
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.039
the norm. And so Adam was like, yeah, you want

619
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.440
to come up? And so I called my buddy Ray.

620
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.640
He was you know, he's a good buddy of mine.

621
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.920
He's not in film or anything at allways a dentist,

622
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.279
but he's loved Bigfoot forever. So it's like, hey, Ray,

623
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.039
I'm going up to this place with my buddy, Adam Davies.

624
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.359
And he had known the story from the Paul and

625
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.599
he said, hey, you know I'm going I'm heading up

626
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.359
and what do you want to come? And so we

627
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:12.960
both we get up. It's like a two hour three

628
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.720
hour drive up up by five and like two hours

629
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.599
into the mountains. It's right at the beginning of springtime,

630
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.480
so there's a little bit of snow on the ground,

631
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:27.279
but not much. And and we get up there and

632
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:29.720
Laurie had been going to this place forever. I mean

633
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.880
is where her father went, so she had obviously she

634
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.920
went there as a kid, so she really knew this

635
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.359
area well. And there was a singular tree that she

636
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.119
had gone back to since she was since she was

637
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.039
a child. Then she would go up and she'd bring

638
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.480
apples and chocolate, and she'd talk up to the big guy.

639
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.799
You know, hey, big guy, it's me. It's Lori. And

640
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.799
and you know, initially we heard nothing, like we saw nothing.

641
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.680
We heard nothing. And she's like, oh, you'll hear him.

642
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.279
He'll he'll make noise, he'll knock on the you know,

643
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.559
he'll knock on the ground and nothing like nothing, and

644
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.160
uh Adam was there and he had another friend from

645
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.039
the UK that was there as well, and he said, Okay,

646
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:08.839
it's all disappointing. So we kind of walk around a

647
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.000
little bit, you know, we sort of look for other evidence,

648
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.440
and we don't. We don't really see much. And then

649
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.759
Laurie's like, hey, Jared, you know, why don't I like

650
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.519
my little DSLR camera a little extra mic. This just

651
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.960
something fun to have just in case we found something.

652
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.440
And she's like, hey, why don't you come back with

653
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.599
me to that tree, but just you and me instead

654
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:29.119
of the whole group. Let's just the two of us go.

655
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.799
I was like, sure, it sounds sounds good. So I

656
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.240
go over there and Laurie's like, hey, the guy, Hey

657
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.400
is me Laurie, you know, And at this point I'm like, man,

658
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.240
is there. It's almost seen it like this is this

659
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.640
is getting a little a little, a little silly, like

660
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.200
I'm not sure we're going to fight here anything. You

661
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.039
have this tree, and all of a sudden, there's just

662
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:54.119
this this growl that comes from right beneath my feet,

663
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.880
and I mean, I wish I could have seen my face,

664
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.680
I mean my eyes just and then it was in

665
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.480
the ground continued and then it was like if you're

666
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.000
in an apartment building and someone's below you and there's

667
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.359
knocking and saying i'd be quiet up there. It's like

668
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.160
it was hitting the ground beneath my feet, and it

669
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.640
was like and you could fee you'd hear the boom

670
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.279
boom boom, like beneath me. And it went on. We

671
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.720
sat there, just Lori and I for probably twenty minutes,

672
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.799
twenty twenty five minutes, and it just didn't stop. It

673
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.480
went on and on and on, and then Adam came

674
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:27.960
and my buddy Ray and we all are at the

675
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:34.079
base of this tree. This creature, whatever it was, it

676
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:38.160
growled and knocked right beneath our feet, like right beneath

677
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:43.400
this giant, giant tree for an hour, hour and a

678
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:48.319
half probably, and then the ground there I don't know

679
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.640
if you know the Northwest, but the whole rainforest, those

680
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.559
areas where it's like the ground it's really spongy, really mossy.

681
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.720
And the ground in this area was just like that,

682
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:59.200
you know, a really mossy, spongy, beautiful area, a little

683
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:00.880
bit of snow. And I remember I walked around just

684
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.720
being like there must be some sort of like how

685
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:07.039
do you get beneath the tree? How was the end

686
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.480
of there? This is a cave? Is it a bear?

687
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.840
You know? What is it? But the fact that it

688
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.000
was like the same tree that she had been coming

689
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.920
to forever, the same tree that her father said this

690
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.079
sasquatch lived there, and that we went there and we

691
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.239
heard these growlds. I mean, my buddy, I was just

692
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.719
I just went to the I just saw him the

693
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.599
other day because he's also he's my buddy before. He's

694
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.880
a dentist when I was my dentist, and I was like,

695
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.199
and every time I see him, we talk about this story,

696
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.480
like every single time. And we stayed there for a

697
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.320
really long time and then we left. But I still

698
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.440
can't explain it. It was like the weirdest thing I

699
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:44.280
can I just cannot explain it. And the history around

700
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.159
it and why that exact tree. It was awesome. It

701
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.719
was like just an unforgettable experience. I actually want to

702
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:51.039
go back up there. I need to get back up

703
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:53.760
to that area and go reinvestigate it because it was

704
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:55.920
an unforgettable moment.

705
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.119
So when she took you over to the tree, did

706
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.199
you guys speak out loud or ask for anything before

707
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.119
that happened or it just started happening.

708
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:10.280
I don't think we asked for anything. I mean, she

709
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.320
would kind of go over there, she was still talk

710
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:14.519
she kind of I think she was sort of she

711
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.280
did sort of like knock the ground a little bit

712
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.239
with her foot. I mean, she did stop a little bit.

713
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.440
You know. I thought always it a bear in hibernation,

714
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.559
you know, and it kind of just was startled awake.

715
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.360
But it was just I don't know, I'm not sold

716
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.199
on that, you know, I really I'm not like still

717
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.559
that that's like exactly what it was, because I'm like, well,

718
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.519
she's been there since she was a kid, Like this

719
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.719
has been happening since she was a kid, going to

720
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.079
this singular place, like it just feels very I don't know,

721
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.840
I guess un likely that it's like the same bear

722
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.679
or that I don't know. I'm not convinced it's a bear.

723
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.400
I don't know enough about it to be like to

724
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.320
really determine when it was or what it wasn't. But

725
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.800
it was so odd and so weird and so unforgettable

726
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.119
and so clear. I mean, it wasn't you didn't have

727
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.000
to strain to hear this thing. I mean it was

728
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.360
a very clear growl, like right at our feet, like

729
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.760
right at our feet. So I yeah, I don't know

730
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.079
what it did. But she's been coming there for years,

731
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.599
and that's the experience she'd been having for years. And

732
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.559
I think it's in a way that she still feels

733
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.000
connected to her father, who had passed by that time,

734
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.519
to kind of continue to go back to this to

735
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.079
this spot. And you know, I think her father called

736
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.480
it the big Guy, and so she she called this

737
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.440
creature the big Guy. But her father went to that

738
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.639
tree believing that there was a Sasquatch or a big

739
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.440
foot in that area, and so she had historically gone

740
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.519
to that same area. And Laurie wrote some books. I

741
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.599
think Donald Donald Lee Wallace has some books too. But

742
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.119
I remember coming back, I thought, man, I'm going to

743
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.239
make a feature doc about Donald Lee Wallace, and I'm

744
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.719
going to look through all these all these cassette tapes

745
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.639
and just like find those those little sounds. But I

746
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.559
mean they were jem They were hundreds of tapes, like

747
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.800
hundreds of little cassette tapes, and you just think, like

748
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.239
what is in there? You know what the time it

749
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.599
would take to comb throw that stuff would be incredible.

750
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:03.000
But yeah, I still I still think about that his work.

751
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.639
What's on those what's on those dang tapes? So it

752
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.920
feels like a true crime what's on the tapes and that,

753
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.400
But that experience was awesome. It was awesome. Do you

754
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.920
hear any other stories like that of like growling coming

755
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.639
from belief beneath people's feet or like benetil?

756
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.480
I was trying to think, and I've never heard one

757
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:30.000
where it's a growl beneath someone's feet. I did, so

758
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.039
I don't know if you could even say it's similar.

759
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.079
But I was out in the willam Att National Forest

760
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:43.920
in Oregon the last July and an area just outside

761
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:50.400
of Oakridge. It's a research area called Oak Hole. The

762
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.039
individuals that head up the area fifty eight big Foot

763
00:37:54.079 --> 00:38:02.920
Information Center Museum that they hit up, and so I

764
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:04.320
was up in the area. I've been up there a

765
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.360
few times, and uh, I was up there with people

766
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.960
like M. K. Davis and Ronnie Roseman and and all

767
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:16.079
those guys and and Don Monroe, and so we go

768
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.519
up there and we're trying their thing. People are playing guitars,

769
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.480
and so I'm like, you know what, this time, I'm

770
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:22.840
going to go out a little bit in the woods

771
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.280
by myself, which half of me is like, this is

772
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.000
what you tell people not to do, dummy, I'm gonna

773
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:31.119
do it. What could happen?

774
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.519
Right, So every scary story starts exactly check out.

775
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.800
Yeah it is. Yeah. So I go out in the

776
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.119
woods in the area where we've had visuals, but out

777
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.440
further in the woods, and I'm like, you know, I'm

778
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:44.920
just gonna try something. I'm just going to say, hey,

779
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.440
if there's any if there's anything here, can you make

780
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.880
a noise? I've never tried it. What could happen? Half

781
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.360
a second later, something in the woods goes knock, knock, knock.

782
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.199
I'm like, oh, no, I think that just had to

783
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.239
be like a weird thing. So I did it again.

784
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.159
I asked it again. Half a second later was like knock, doc, doc,

785
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.000
And they got freaked out and went back to the group,

786
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.639
and every day I'm like, what would have happened if

787
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.360
I just walked twenty feet into the woods. I've said

788
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.480
that story so many times since July, and my listeners

789
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.719
are like, oh, this story again. But it's like you

790
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.719
don't get it until you're in that situation where it's like,

791
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.360
you know, people are like, why didn't you go for it? Well,

792
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.639
when you're in a situation like that, things can get

793
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.480
really intense really quick, and I didn't really feel like,

794
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.400
you know, potential missing four when one that day, or

795
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.400
a missing person, we don't really want to deal with that.

796
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:35.800
You're vulnerable in those moments.

797
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:37.800
You know you are exactly It's a good way to

798
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:38.079
put it.

799
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.679
You know, whether it's a knock on a tree or

800
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.000
a growl or something you see, you're encountering something that

801
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.199
you can't explain. And when actually explain something, it's not like, Yeah,

802
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:50.960
some people I think would walk further, but a lot

803
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.519
most I think most people would say, I don't know

804
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:55.360
what I'm dealing with, I don't know where I'm at.

805
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.760
I'm going to just take a step back to a

806
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.280
place so I can live to tell the story. One day.

807
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.239
But but it is it's encountering something you cannot explain.

808
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:08.559
And uh, you know, just going back to sort of

809
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.760
I think my experience on on doing this season of

810
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:14.400
Monster Quest, I mean, and it's heart that is, like

811
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:18.239
every single story is somebody encounters something they can't explain

812
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.760
and then they go on a journey to try to

813
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.400
try to understand it. And I think a lot of

814
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.039
people in the community now that that is their entry point.

815
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.119
Sometimes often is like they weren't looking for it, they

816
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.840
weren't out there searching. They encounter something they can't explain,

817
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.880
and it's brought them to this community to try to

818
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:41.000
understand what that was. Because it's a great minute's These

819
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.159
aren't stories. These are stories that like people obsess about

820
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.880
they they think about it daily. You know, it's like

821
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:51.679
a it's like a traumatic event. But that's a cool story.

822
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.360
That's the cool land. That's a beautiful area.

823
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.039
That's all it really is. And you know, just to

824
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.519
say another reason why I'm glad that the show is back,

825
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.119
and uh is if you think over the last well

826
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.719
maybe even like twenty twenty or so years, I mean,

827
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.639
every generation has something that for the TV crowd that

828
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.119
they're like, Okay, I came in with in Search of

829
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.920
I came in with the original Monster Quest. I came

830
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:22.199
in with Finding Bigfoot or Expedition Bigfoot. And we're at

831
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.119
the point where I was like, man, we got to

832
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.519
have something on TV outside the Internet where you know,

833
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:32.440
the next generation can come in. So thankful that you

834
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.880
guys are here because this is pretty much this generations

835
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.519
like it's going to get them into it. So oh,

836
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:40.599
that's that's tough to you guy.

837
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.079
I appreciate it, you know, and it's it's fun, you know.

838
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.199
I think a lot of these folks now I've been

839
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.000
obviously on your podcast, another podcast, and there's been other

840
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:50.960
things they've done, and I would say the thing is

841
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.159
like the best stories should be told over and over

842
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.519
and over again, you know, and there's so many different Yeah,

843
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.760
I mean, I'm I'm stoked, like, oh, I've heard that

844
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.880
story before, fantastic, But doesn't mean the Monster qust audience

845
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.239
has heard it before, you know, And how can we

846
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.679
offer an audience or like you said, even for Martin's

847
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.280
story or Barton's or something where you know it but

848
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.280
you're seeing in a different light. And that's I think

849
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.719
what we're trying to do. But yeah, it's it's it's

850
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.199
neat that there are so many outlets for stories and

851
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.400
witnesses right now. One. I think it makes people much

852
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.639
more comfortable coming forward and feeling and there's a place

853
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.480
where they can try to help wrap their head around

854
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.079
what it is that they what it is that they experience.

855
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.440
So I really appreciate that. Yeah, I'm I couldn't be

856
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.519
more thrilled that Monster Quest is back and to have

857
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:41.559
a hand in it, it's pretty awesome.

858
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.159
And I agree with you. We are at the point

859
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.880
right now where there are so many outlets, and the

860
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.800
way I look at it is hopefully it's all working

861
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:56.960
together for one for people to feel like they can

862
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.440
actually tell someone their story, They're not gonna be made

863
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.599
fun of it. I hope that hopefully all these stories

864
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.960
getting out, maybe someday will get a little bit more

865
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.480
information or the truth will start to come out about

866
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:11.559
like what's what do people really know about Bigfoot in

867
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.320
the background? Who knows? I hope that will happen someday.

868
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.039
But you know, one more question about the show, Jared,

869
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:25.239
do you have a witness that you were I mean

870
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.519
you had to work really hard at or you were

871
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.199
really excited to be able to get them on film.

872
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:34.039
One that really stands out to you as like you

873
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:35.679
look at the whole series that you were able to

874
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:39.159
film and you're like, oh, that was probably like amazing

875
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.639
that we were able to get that one on film.

876
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.760
Man, I could probably say that for most. But the

877
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.920
one the one that does come to mind and I

878
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.199
and not just because but he isn't this week's episode,

879
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.039
but it is also do you know John Mey and Chinski?

880
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.840
Oh yeah, dude, Wyoming.

881
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:01.679
Wyoming, right, and he gets the hand foot Yeah, wind River.

882
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:06.639
Mountains, Yeah, wildlife biologist spend his whole life up there

883
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.360
living with these big horn sheep, sort of following the

884
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.599
the the sort of like embedding with the animal approach

885
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.760
that like Jane Goodall took with the chimps back, you know,

886
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:21.239
in the day before she before she passed. And his

887
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.119
story one we had to go to him. It was

888
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.880
like the most remote part of Wyoming. He was like,

889
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:29.800
we flew in, I think the Salt Lake is like

890
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:33.000
a five hour drive. Is this small town, middle of nowhere,

891
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.480
population fifty It was awesome, Like the whole experience was

892
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.599
like really really wonderful. And he's the one that I

893
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:40.599
wish I could have just sat out there and hung

894
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:42.400
out with him for just days and days and days.

895
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:48.199
But his I remember leaving that interview with him and thinking,

896
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.440
and this is before Jeff Mildrim had passed, and I

897
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.320
remember telling John I was like, John, I actually I

898
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:58.119
truly believed. I was like, this guy is gonna figure

899
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.639
it out, Like this guy is going to bring going

900
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:04.079
to figure out the evidence. And we had some conversations

901
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.440
about different things he was looking to do. You know,

902
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.199
he's an older guy, so he's like, I need young people.

903
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:11.960
I can't do the fieldwork I used to do. And

904
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.719
I was like, well, I have those people, like I

905
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.320
know exactly. And I remember I got back and I

906
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:18.519
reached out to Jeff Meldrum and I was like, hey,

907
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.079
I just met with John. I just met Johnny and Chinsky,

908
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.559
Like let's get on the phone and talk about like

909
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:26.800
a feature doc or a project that you know, hopefully

910
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:28.880
we can raise some money for and go on and

911
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.000
really like get evidence. Like when we went to Nepal.

912
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.239
I remember sitting there with my crew and I really believed.

913
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.280
I was like, man, we're going for this, Like we

914
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:41.760
are going to a remote, remote area we're putting crazy resources.

915
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:43.920
We're going to get some evidence. I remember looking at

916
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.320
my team, my camera team, and being like, we are

917
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.599
all responsible for getting the shot, Like don't just keep

918
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.000
your eyes on Adam and Ian, you know, and Mick

919
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.559
and Yagi, like you guys got to be looking into

920
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.800
the into the in like to the mountaintops, like into

921
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.679
the bush, like every where you could. But John I

922
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:08.280
really left that feeling like he was positioned to do

923
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.599
just like what you said, which is like to provide

924
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:15.360
the evidence to science that is undeniable. And these parts

925
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.400
of it didn't necessarily make the show, but you know,

926
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:23.360
the talking about what science needs evidence wise to actually

927
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.880
you know, say we this is a this is a

928
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.079
real creature, this is the truth. And that that to

929
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.280
me anyway, John was an amazing interview. I mean just

930
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.519
like the knowledge, the history, the evidence that he has found,

931
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.519
the story of how he came out out the mouth.

932
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.760
I mean, his encounter is interesting, Like his encounter is cool,

933
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.679
but it's almost what happened after his encounter that was

934
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.000
more interesting to me. You know, it was coming down

935
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:48.000
and I don't want to give away the whole story,

936
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.239
but it's you know, it led him to find more evidence.

937
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.760
And you know, there's some conversations we had off camera,

938
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.239
but yeah, John blew my mind like that he was

939
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:04.079
his background to have a wildlife biologist. I've talked about

940
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.559
this before, but I do think like whether it's the

941
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.400
judged wildlife biologists for those guys to come in and

942
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.599
big I have experienced something, whether we like to admit

943
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.239
or not, they have a bigger no mountain to climb.

944
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.119
As far as like there's more risk for somebody in

945
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.199
that the most risk for somebody in that world coming

946
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.960
out and saying I've had this experience than any other

947
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.800
you know, does John get isolated from other biologists being

948
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.440
like I believe that the Sasquatch does exist. I do

949
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.880
believe that this is like a real, a real creature.

950
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:39.320
And you know, and he spoke a lot about the

951
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.840
Native American history in that area, and he's just he's

952
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:45.960
so tapped into everything in the Windwitterber Mountains that that

953
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.639
one really shook me. Have you talked to John? Do

954
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:50.599
you know? Do you know John?

955
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.199
I have never actually talked to John before.

956
00:47:54.079 --> 00:48:01.480
Oh yeah, yeah. He his story, he's great, his credentials

957
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.480
are really cool. He's just also a really neat guy, thoughtful.

958
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.639
You know. I remember finishing the interview and I texted

959
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.199
my buddy, who is our executive history, and I was like, man,

960
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:15.880
we just had an awesome interview. I can't wait for

961
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.119
you to see it, like because it just it just it.

962
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.960
It wasn't it wasn't. It was a very unexpected individual

963
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.480
having that encounter. There was a journey afterwards. I love

964
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:29.880
the stories where people like Daniel. Daniel had his experience

965
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.119
as a kid, then for years he tried to figure

966
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.360
out until he saw it. Her Ron Moore head seriously

967
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.199
as and he's like, that's a sound I heard. I mean,

968
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.400
I don't know about you, but sound smells. Nothing accesses

969
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.480
my memory like those, and so I can. I'm like, oh, yeah,

970
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.599
that makes total sense that that would take if you

971
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.360
heard that sound again, it would take you back to

972
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.679
that moment. But John, yeah, John was you should Definitely,

973
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.719
you'd be fascinating to have a conversation. He's a very

974
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.000
very busy guy. That guy stays stay, is incredibly busy,

975
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.679
but just a fascinating individual. Like Bill does on house

976
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.280
out there rides like you know, he rides around the

977
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:08.000
Desert Wind River mountains with this little motorcycle sidecar. I mean,

978
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:15.760
just a character, but really incredibly intelligent and as as

979
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.800
just a true believer in really trying to find evidence

980
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:24.400
that sort of changes the entire scientific community's perspective on sasquatch.

981
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:26.079
So that would be away.

982
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:32.239
That's awesome, uh man, Jared, what what a fascinating conversation.

983
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:36.360
How many episodes for season one can we be looking

984
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.480
for so they'll.

985
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.960
Be eight altogether together? Yeah?

986
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.519
Awesome? And can we say anything about season two yet

987
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.159
or or we will see?

988
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.599
No, I don't Yeah, I truly don't know yet, but

989
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.199
as soon as I do, you'll probably know, because we'll

990
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.280
be asking around looking for stories. I'll probably hit you

991
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.760
up and be like, let me who do I what

992
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.079
stories do I not know that deserve.

993
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.840
As part of this treatment Big for Society podcast dot com.

994
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.320
Go to siting map. All the people I've talked to

995
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.320
are on that siting map, and then you can see

996
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.920
the episode and it's kind of like I was, like,

997
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.679
I got so many people I've talked to, I got

998
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.360
to make this map and it's a lot of work,

999
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.599
but like people are starting to check it out. So

1000
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:20.880
make sure you check that out. And is there anything

1001
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.519
that we can do to make sure that, you know,

1002
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.159
maybe we can help a little bit with with season two.

1003
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.320
I would just just keep checking it in, just keep

1004
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:34.280
talking about it. You know. The the feedbacks has been

1005
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.599
has been amazing, you know. And I knew that we

1006
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.440
were the initial Monster Quests at a really high bar

1007
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:42.400
for us, you know, and the last thing I wanted

1008
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.360
to do is put a put a product out that

1009
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.599
was disappointing to people. And so, you know, it's felt

1010
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.559
just incredible that it's the community has been so excited

1011
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.960
about it, so welcoming. That's felt awesome. But I'll just

1012
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.760
say just you know, I don't write the history of

1013
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:58.800
Tom how much you love the show, but just keep

1014
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.440
watching and being enthusiastic about it. There are no shortage

1015
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.719
of stories, you know, there just are no shortage. I

1016
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.519
remember we finished the first season and we're having conversations

1017
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.239
and they said, oh, well, you know, what is you know,

1018
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:12.639
do you think we could do more? I was like,

1019
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.360
there are so many stories like this is I wouldn't

1020
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.000
even say this is the tip of the iceberg. The

1021
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.239
these are really amazing stories. But there are more of

1022
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.119
these histories. There's more of these, you know, as you

1023
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:28.960
can see like we're really focusing on like small localized stories,

1024
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.599
focal or histories that are connected in some way to

1025
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:38.840
this witness encounter, and they're everywhere. They're really it's hard

1026
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.000
to find a place, especially in the United States, that

1027
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:46.159
isn't touched by some history of some sort of unknown

1028
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.079
cryptid encounter. You can't just ignore that like that is

1029
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.119
it is, it is. It is literally part of like

1030
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.960
our human history of like searching for these answers. So

1031
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.079
I don't know, I'm going off on a couple of tangents,

1032
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.480
but yeah, I would just say, keep being enthusiastic about show,

1033
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.039
let history know what you think about it, and keep

1034
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.719
tuning is the best thing we can do. But yeah,

1035
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.239
I will sort of let you know the second I

1036
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.920
know if I'm allowed that there's gonna be another season coming.

1037
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.639
But I'm I'm hopeful. I'm certainly hopeful.

1038
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:19.599
There you go. Well, Jared mcgillard, thank you so much

1039
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.199
for hanging out with us talking about Monster Quest. Guys,

1040
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.480
make sure that you if you see it on TV.

1041
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:28.639
If you see it on TV, watch it, talk about

1042
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.559
on your social media accounts, share all that good stuff.

1043
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.199
But thank you so much for coming on the show.

1044
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:34.719
Jared jerry Mi It's.

1045
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.760
Been a blast. Appreciate it. Thanks for all you're doing too,

1046
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:37.719
I really appreciate it.

1047
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:42.320
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1048
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.599
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

1049
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.480
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1050
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:53.039
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1051
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.639
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1052
00:52:56.679 --> 00:53:01.599
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summery Fest is come up July tenth

1053
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.599
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

1054
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:09.559
better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be

1055
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:12.679
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

1056
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:18.000
I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard

1057
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:24.119
anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you

1058
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:26.400
just got to be there. We'll leave it that more

1059
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.159
about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check

1060
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:34.760
this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

1061
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:39.119
series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not

1062
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.400
only go to the festival, but you can also sign

1063
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:50.360
up for a track Deep in the Wild Forest outside

1064
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:55.039
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to

1065
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:58.760
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

1066
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.239
for this and yeah, yes, this will also be filmed

1067
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.480
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1068
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:08.599
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in lifetime deal.

1069
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.840
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1070
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.960
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1071
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:21.559
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

1072
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:26.360
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

1073
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.320
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1074
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:34.480
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1075
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:40.599
that you guys can can get a little a little

1076
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:43.960
help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope

1077
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.239
to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year.

1078
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.599
We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk

1079
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.280
to so many people last year and the year before.

1080
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.119
It is an incredible time. You're not going to want

1081
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:01.400
to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we

1082
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.920
wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to

1083
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.320
a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

1084
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.079
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1085
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.000
no one can explain, or if you're a National park

1086
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.280
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1087
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.159
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1088
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.760
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

1089
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.719
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

1090
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:31.400
you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1091
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.840
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1092
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:37.840
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

1093
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:41.719
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

1094
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:45.679
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1095
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.639
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1096
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:53.199
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1097
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.960
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1098
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.079
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw some

1099
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.679
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

1100
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.440
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1101
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.280
then I want to talk to you, Even if it's anonymous.

1102
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.559
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1103
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.440
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1104
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:27.280
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1105
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:31.599
We've got the mic, see you in the woods. Thank

1106
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.519
you for listening to this episode of The Bigot Society Podcast.

1107
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.039
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1108
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.199
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1109
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.079
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

1110
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1117
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:06.960
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1118
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.920
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1119
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:13.400
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1120
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1121
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1122
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1125
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1126
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.119
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

1127
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.599
Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1128
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:41.920
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

1129
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And see you in the woods.