He Blocked My Escape and His Eyes Turned Red | Multiple Bigfoot Encounters Across Pennsylvania

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking to Jeff today. Jeff is out there from the Maryland, Pennsylvania area. We'll be talking more about the area in a little bit. He's a construction worker in outdoorsmen, so definitely gets out there and he's had some interesting things happen over the years. So welcome to the show.

0:54 Jeff. How are you doing, sir. I'm doing pretty good. Thanks awesome. We were just talking about where some of this takes place and I was double checking the map and we will be going if people are falling along with the map that's over at Bigfos Society podcast dot com and then the sighting map. We're going to be in some areas that have been heavily discussed in Pennsylvania, so it'd be very interesting, So make sure you do that if you can. But Jeff, you know, feel free to take us back to when this first started to happen in for you, when you first started realizing you were having some sort of interaction with something out of the ordinary out there.

1:42 Okay, I'll start with the first time I ever seen them there. I was, I was it was the second week of buck season and I'm thinking it was I think it was two thousand and five, and I had vacations, so I was hunting, uh for buck down. Uh it was uh the lakes I was hunting around, they're called Gordon Lake and Coon Lake. One one of the lakes dumps into the lower one and there's like a long bridge that goes across where the breast is where it dumps into the lower bridge the dam and uh. But I this first one was out where the boat launch is across the road from it, straight up and uh, I was hunting up there and there's like the area has a bunch of like little ridges that come down from the top of the mountain and they there's like little hollows in between them, and you get further up and there's bigger it gets steeper and there's like a big series of bulls that come together and you can see like a couple hundred yards in that area. So the first time I went up to that right at

3:16 the edge of that big bowl where you could see like all the valleys go down to that one point. And it was in December, so it was like the night before it snowed, but it got real nice in the next morning and it was like between forty to fifty degrees out, so the snow was melting on the ground. And I sat in this one spot for until about twelve twelve thirty and I thought, well, it's kind of quiet walking, and I decided to take a walk. So, yeah, there's a when I when you go down into the ravine and back up the other side, it's real steep up to the top of this next hill. And on that top of that hill to the right, there's a bit there's a little pond like up in the in the right in the middle of the woods up there, and there's a stream right above it that goes down under this real big rock and into the ground, and I guess it comes out in that spring. Well, I got to the edge of this hill where it starts to flatten out, and it was real quiet walking. I got up over to the edge of that hill and

4:47 I walked right up to something that was sitting on the ground like if you look at a gorilla or a chimpanzee. Uh they they h It was sitting on its end and its legs were were bent up and their feet flat on the ground, and its arms were out like a like an ape does, like on an angle, and its hands were touching the ground. It was like kind of like a dog sitting straight up, you know. So it was it had its back to me, and it's facing to my to the left, and it didn't it didn't hear me. I walked right up to it.

5:32 It was like ten yards away, it was that close, and it finally turned its head and looked at me, and something in the back of my mind was thinking. At first I thought it was a bear, because nothing else is black and the woods yet down there, you know, That's the first thing I thought of. But when it looked at me, something in the back of my mind said, that's not a bear because its head was like right on its on its body, you know, it didn't hardly have any neck at all. Its head was right on its shoulders. And it looked at me, and it it jumped up and like went ran to my right up towards that pond, and it made like four gallops, like about thirty yards away, and it got up on its back legs and started running up through the this there's a deer trail that goes up through there, and it's all mountain laurel and them red and green jaggers. It's real thick up through there. And I I had a to my rifle with me, and I'm like, I just wasn't sure what the heck it was, you know, And I decided to follow it up to the mountain to see if I could see it again, you know. And it went up through the thicket and I could. It

7:02 was probably about one hundred yards away from me, and I was following it up through the sticket. I had a rough time getting through it, and it went straight up the mountain and I come out of the thicket. It was way ahead of me, and I lost sight of it. So I got out of that thicket and it comes into more open woods up there, and there's like big oak and cherry trees. And I got up to there and there's this logging road up there and it goes from the left to the right, like straight across the hill. And when I got to that, like right before there, I seen something walking, like a person walking on that logging road and it got in front of me and there's a series of rocks. There's like three or four bigger rocks that I didn't know they were.

8:04 I didn't realize how big they were. So I went back recently and I had my rifle there and it was like a foot taller in my twenty two magnum rifles. So I'm thinking like fifty some inches these rocks were, but at the time I didn't realize that. But it just it started walking across on that logging road, and those rocks were like right at the edge of the logging road, and there was a bunch in between there two small rocks, and it got to those rocks and it would step up on the rock and it looked over me and kind of like in the quarter of its size, and it would snarl its lip up at me, like if you try to take a dog's bone and it tries to grown try to get in, like it's gonna bite you, it curls its lip up. That's what it did its lip at like showed me its teeth.

9:03 I seen one fang and the rest were just like human flat teeth, you know. I could see them, and uh, it looked right at me and then looked back and stepped off the rock and walked to the next one. And it kept doing this on it even on the little rocks. It would step up on a rock, look at me and like star, give me a bat, you know, snarled look, and I'm thinking this thing's trying to scare me aware or something. You know. It kept doing it, and then it got to the second, uh big rock, and it did it again, and it then it stepped off, and I thought maybe, well, I had my rifle kind of pointed towards it, you know, and I thought, well, maybe if I put it on my shoulder and could you know, I put it on my shoulder and went like this as if to say, I'm not trying to hurt you or nothing, you know, And it seemed to understand what I did, because when it stepped off to the last rock, then there was the last rock was the biggest one. It was like a triangular shape one and it was pointed at the top, and it stepped up on that rock and it didn't it looked to me, but it didn't snarl this time. It stepped off and then it just turned its back on me like like

10:34 it was calm, and it walked. There was a deer trail that went right up over the hill, straight up, and it got on that deer trail and started going up there. So I left to get ahead of me a little bit, and I continued to follow it to see where it goes, you know. So I went up to the We followed this trail up and it comes to a steeper part of the mountain and there's a deer trail that's pretty well beaten down. It goes right through real thick mountain Laurel up there, and there's very little leafs in there because there's not many big trees.

11:16 It's all mountain Laurel. And I got up into there to where I couldn't hardly see, like maybe fifteen twenty feet in front of me, and I heard them running. You could hear feet slapping on the ground running up the trail. There was several of them running up the trail. So I backed off. I decided to stop, and I went back down a little bit and I went back into the open woods to the left, and I went back up clean to the top, but out hill, and at the top, I think it's well, I know it's posted up there. Somebody owns that up there, and it's all posted at the top. And there's a yellow gate on the one logging road that goes up on an angle, and I've seen the same one walking and it looked back at me, and then it went around the yellow gate and it it like started walking real fast up through there. And I had my gun and everything, and I didn't want to go into posted land, so and I thought i'd better get out because I didn't know where the other ones were up there, you know, So I got out of there. That was the first sighting I had.

12:36 And Jeff was that in Maryland or Pennsylvania. That it's in Pennsylvania. Gordon and Coombe Lake is actually I from what I heard, is the lake that supplies Cumberland, Maryland with their drinking water. So it's there's there's a big upper dam. I think that's the the one that's Gordon. It's one or the other. I'm not sure Coon or Gordon, but uh. And then there's like a there's a bridge there that goes across where the breast is and it's a about one hundred foot drop to the lower lake there.

13:17 And that my second sighting was right next to that bridge. And that's where I had the second sighting. And is that near a certain town at all? Or we get the nearest town. There's a gas station on Route two twenty if you go south towards uh, towards Cumberland. It's still in Pennsylvania. It's on the right. I think that's Centerville or New Centerville one or the two. Okay, there's a gas station rate there before you like then probably six or eight miles down the road, there's Route sixty eight down Maryland. That's where the.

13:59 Border ISHI gotcha. So this is like between Bedford and Cumberland on two. It's close to Yeah, it's close to Maryland. Okay, Oh, I see that. I think I see the big lake now. Oh, coon. It's k O O N right, yep, I got it. Yeah. Cool on the east side. Awesome, very cool. So you're saying by the bridge over there, then that was where you had your second encounter happen as well? Yeah, right, it was right on the upper damn side of the bridge when you come Well, when you come up to that bridge, there's like a series of sharp turns and then it comes right onto that bridge, and then you crossed the bridge and on the left is the upper side and on the right is the lower dam I was on the left side of the bridge after you crossed the bridge. I was like right next to the bridge down there, and uh where I parked.

14:59 If you you go past the bridge, you go about one hundred feet past the bridge or maybe a hundred guards and there's a little area there's one of them yellow gates like they have there on like down in the bottom of this little parking lot there so people can stop bearing fish or whatever, and there's like a gate there. I parked right at that gate, and I turned around and was facing the road there, and I went down I walked there's a trail that goes right down beside that bridge on the upper damn side and I was fishing right there next to the bridge, and I was catching blue gills that evening. It was rate in the evening and it was starting to get dark and stuff, but I just decided to I was still catching nice blue gills and stuff, so I was just throwing them back. I wasn't keeping them or nothing, but I was having fun catching them, and I didn't want to leave, you know. So it was dark, but it was starting to get dark, and I was still fishing, and all of a sudden, I heard like a real loud growl. The first one kind of sounded like a bear, and that's the first thing I thought of, there's a bear up bear on It sounded like it was on the other side of the hill or the road up

16:31 on the mountain there, and I heard this roar. And if I've recently just seen that, there was a recordings from Arizona, and there's one from Bluefield, West Virginia, and they were like them. They were like a howl or more like a yell, but they sounded exactly like those recordings. And the first one, I actually thought it was a bear because it was more like a growl, you know, And I thought man, I better pack my stuff up and go, you know, because I didn't want to stick around.

17:19 I didn't have no gun or anything, so I just had a little tackle box and two rods with me, so I grabbed them with my right hand. I had them all in my right hand, and I started going back up the trail to the road to the main road. And I got halfway up in whatever growd, it made a real loud yell. It's almost as loud as a like a fire whistle, like a fire siren. It almost sounded like that. But behind after that you could it sounded like a man yelling at the top of his lungs, like a but it was deeper than a man's voice, and it was a lot louder. You could actually like feel the rumble of it. You know. It was real loud.

18:14 And I stopped dead in my tracks. I'm like, and it was. It sounded like it was right on the other side of the road. This time. There's like a little hill that drops down to the road on the other side of the road. So I uh, I decided, well, I'm going straight for my car. I ain't going up there to the road, you know. So I went through there's just a little patch of woods to the car, but it was thicker than what I thought it was. But I was going through this thick patch of woods towards straight towards my car. And there's a like like a trail that goes from the road down to the lake right in front of there, you know. And it when I got right before that trail, I could hear it crunching walking down that trail. So it got right in front of me at that When I got to that trail, it was standing there waiting, and so it was like crouched down and it had its hands out like to the side of it. And I tried to go left, and every time I moved left, it moved with me. It was like blocking my way to my car, and it wouldn't let me go. And then then all of a sudden, it started, uh, like bumping my chest with the back of its hand. It would bunt. It

19:47 started bumping my chest and grunt. It was making a grunting at me like it was grunting, and then uh it h it took its hand. It had its hands like right on the outside like as I was trying to move away from it, it had its hands right at my shoulders, so it was almost touching me, but it wouldn't touch me with its on my shoulders. That then it bumped. It kept bumping my chest, and then it started bumping my shoulders and then all of a sudden, I see its eyes. They glowed up like pure red.

20:30 The whole eyeball, you know, both eyeballs glowed up, started glowing red, and it had big pupils. I could see the pupils in it. And when it did that, I just I started haulering and yelling. You know, I was scared, and uh uh, I just started freaking out on it. And I had I had my ficion stuff in my right hand, and I made a fist like this and I hit it. I like darted to write and hit it like about right here on its elbow and I hit it's elbow and I hollered. And when I did that, it scared it, and it took off down to the lake and I went the other way and I got to my car and I got out of here. I got in my car and I was it scared the crap bottom me.

21:26 Okay, wow, so you are You're one of the only people I've talked to so you pretty much had a physical altercation yeah with Bigfoot. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm like, I have some questions for you. Yeah, yeah, but but sorry, go ahead and by all means finished here your account of what happened first, and then I will definitely ask you some questions. Yeah. As soon as I back like they called her backhanded, but I actually used my fist and kind of punched it with the back of my fist, you know, with this part, and I hit it on its side of its arm, right by its elbow. I hit it as hard as I could, and I hollered it. I was hollering as soon as I seen the glowing eyes. That's that freaked me out, and I'm like, get away from me, you know. So I I just out of reaction, I just punched it like that, and I jumped at the same time. I went that way to the right, to my right so it couldn't get me in the But when I I've since that, when I punched it like at, it kind of startled it and it hurried it like jumped away from me, and then it ran right towards the lake and I went straight to my car. I

22:57 was only probably a hundred feet from my car, you know when it happened. Okay, when you get to the car, then then what to do? Oh? I had the one or awo, I had a pathfinder, so I had the keyless entry. So I hit the hit the the key bob and got it unlocked as I was running to it, and I jumped in it and I just started up as quick as I could and I rammed it into drive and I was out of here, and I didn't look. Back, gotcha, Just to remind me, so at the point when you're going back and forth yourself in the bigfoot, yeah, I mean you're probably what half a half a foot away?

23:49 A foot away? You're close. Yeah. It was like right right in front of me, like with within arm lengths of it, which is a lot big. It was wider than I was a lot wider right, But it had its hands like right on my shoulders the whole time. But then it started bumping my chest and hitting me on my shoulders like like the I don't know, it just didn't want me to get past it. I guess it was trying to scare me or what. I don't know. Absolutely, Thank goodness, was there any smell you being so close.

24:31 No, I didn't have I didn't smell them on any of my occasions. I don't know, gotcha. I didn't smell any skunk like odors or anything, which is weird, you know. I don't know, but I never. It's going to feel a certain way if you hit something that's muscular versus if you hit someone that is not muscular at all, you're going to get different action, right right, What could you tell about it's a big foot by how it felt when you you hit it.

25:11 Well, I felt, I felt it was real solid, like a like a real well. When it was standing in front of me, there was moon. It was a full moon, so I could see a little bit, but I could the moon was like out over to the left, out over the lake, so I couldn't see the front like its face real good until its eyes glowed up. But I just like what I was more or less focused on its eyes and uh, but uh when it uh when it was standing there in front of me, don't like bumping my chest and stuff. I could see it's like chest muscles in its like abb area, and I was I was about eye level with it and like rated at the bottom of its chest muscles that's about where my I was eye level with that area of it, so I got to see. I seen, uh the hair on it. I seen like it was thinner on its on their chest and you can actually see the muscles and stuff on it.

26:20 But okay, and. Uh, the top of its head you could see the long stringy hair sticking up like it, you know, because you could see a little bit of moonlight in it in the sky their so I could see like the outline of it, and it was like wild hair, like a wild man, you know, right. How did it feel when it actually pushed you? It? It just it used the back of its hand like this part of its tan, and it was like by its knuckles and it was bumping my chest like this and going on like like a grunt at me.

27:04 It just kept doing that. Did you get a sense as to how much of its force it was using when it was doing that? Uh? It it wasn't doing it there, I don't think it was. If it want or two, it probably could have done a lot harder, but it wasn't really bumping it real hard just to like like it was trying to scare me or spook me out of there or what it seemed like to me, but it yeah, it wasn't real it. It didn't hurt a lot, but it was like a like like someone smacked your chest half half as they could.

27:54 You know, absolutely, how tall are you? I'm about five six five seven? Okay, gotcha Interesting When the eye started to glow, did that happen really quickly or did it happen like it was a slow ignition? Uh, it was kind of like a slow They glowed like real slow, and they got gradually got brighter and brighter, and they got real bright red. Okay, and you can see the pupils were bigger than normal, you know, but you can the darker pupil in the mill, but it's the whole eye was glowing, both of them. So after.

28:46 Was there a point then where you were able to see any details about the face since you were so close to it? Yeah, kind of it had I seen. It had a real small nose and like a little bump for a nose, and the rest was real dark. It was covered, everything was covered with hair except around its eyes. That's pretty consistent with the other ones I've seen. Uh, the one, the first one that I walked up to when I said, I climbed that heel and bounced that one right at the edge of the hill. It it didn't have facial hair on it. That was the only one that was different.

29:36 It didn't have facial hair on it. But and it had like more of a like Caucasian, like a whitish color of skin to it. But it was grayish and uh it I describe it as looking like an old chimp. But its face was longer than a chimp's face. It was like longer, like more like a person. But uh, that was the only difference. It's extremely interesting. I've talked to a guy in Oregon before where he got backhanded by a bigfoot. Yeah, but this is the opposite. So it's extremely interesting. I yeah, man, because if he wanted to take you out, he would have taken you out, no questions asked. I mean, you look at how strong just a chimp is. I mean, it would have been game over. So I what I'm kind of taking away is that he just winds you out of the area.

30:37 Yeah, yeah, that's what. Yeah, That's what I'm thinking. Because I kept throwing him. These blue gills were big. They were like eleven to twelve inch long. Blue gills they're bigger in my hand, and I was catching them every cast, and I kept throwing them back and throwing them back. I don't know if they were watching me, dude fish or what, you know, that's what I thought. Maybe they wanted me outitors so so they could go catch them or whatever. I don't know right exactly. So after you, you know, you drove away. How did this affect you? Having such a close interaction but also one that got kind of physical as well.

31:19 Well, I definitely don't go uh night fishing very often anymore, that's for sure. Yeah, that uh. Since then, well, I always carry I have a forty four magnum pistol, and I carrying it every time I go uh hunting, Well if I can, if I have to use a smaller one, I have smaller caliber ones, you know, like for small game. They don't allow you certain size as of pistol to carry. But I if I go up and down them woods, I take my forty four magnum with me and uh, just in case, you know. And I don't go fishing without a gun anymore either. I have a gun inside my tackle bag. And if I go somewhere more remote, I have my forty four on my side, I don't.

32:17 I don't like to go night fishing anymore. I don't. I haven't gone very many times since then unless I know, but I probably wouldn't either. Yeah, Yeah, that was something else there. Have you been back to that spot at all? Yeah, I've been back to it. Yeah. I actually went back to that up to where my first encounter was up in the woods, and I years ago before I ever seen any of them down there, I seen this weird tree blind up bear at the top and that's about where I seen my second one where it was walking on the stepping on the rocks. It was close to that, I think, right above there, and years ago before that even was there, there was a tree that there's like a drop off rate before you get up to those mountain larels, and there was a tree that come out over it and I used to hunt. You could walk out this tree stump like the the trunk of it, and you could sit in the wide a tree and you were like ten or fifteen feet off the ground, and there's a deer trailer renting right under there.

33:40 And the one time there was like real long, stringy hair on it, and I never thought nothing of it because I never seen nothing like that. I just figured maybe a coyote was up there, or you know, a bobcat or something using it for hunting or whatever to jump on them or something, because you they would walk right under you never see you. And then this one year, one year, a big windstorm and come and blew that tree down, and I had noticed that that it was coming down, And then I walked over to the left more and there was this weird tree blind and it was made up of logs that were broken and wrapped around like two standing trees, but the bark was all in one piece. You know, they were still intact on a tree. They were like about eight inch from logs that were broken like about five feet foot long, and then like wrapped around the other trees. And there they were stacked on each other and they were about they were probably the top of the blind was maybe about six feet tall. The last log on it. I have pictures of it. And it was weird because they weren't

35:13 cut or nothing. They were broken these trees. Like the log part was broken and it was wrapped around the trees. And I sat, I went in it. There's a log that sits against a tree that you could sit inside of it. And I sat inside of it, and I'm sitting there in the logs were way above my head, and I'm like, why would they put logs that high if that's a hunting blind and you can't you can't put your rifle up to shoot through it. I'd have to actually step out of it to shoot through it. I thought, I always thought that was a weird blind, you know, And how they made it, I don't know.

35:59 I just thought it was weird. And then recently I went back up there and I thought, I walked up onto that blind again, and here it was. Later on I found my other my old pictures, and it was a totally different blind. This one was more triangular shaped, and it was facing towards the lake, like and that's the way the sun goes, like, if you're facing down towards the lake, the sun goes to the right all the time. And there was right below that there was one of those. There was a tree about ten inches round that was up about twenty feet. It was busted off and it went down like to the ground, and then it formed almost like an X right there on the like on that and then that's rate that blind that's triangular shaped is pointing towards that. So I thought that was weird too, And that was recently I seen that.

37:12 That other blind. I didn't see that one before, and I actually thought it was the old one, but it wasn't. It was a different one. It sounds like there's a lot of weird stuff definitely going on in that area. It's cool that you're still going there as well. You mentioned so you've had things happen in other parts of Pennsylvania as well, correct, Yeah. Yeah, by a blue knob up on the top of the mountain right before UH, right near Wimber in ogle Town. It's called UH. From Johnstown, you go take Route fifty six east towards Bedford and you go out to ogle Town.

38:02 You come out to ogle Town and right there's a trout. Cricket goes across the road under the road, and then you go and if you turn right, that takes you to Wimber of Sportsman's Down and it's a little pond, but you go past that road and then into the next big dip. There's a big dip one Route fifty six. You turn left and there's a mountain road that goes back here. It's all gravel and it'll take you back towards Blue Knob. If you go straight, you can't go that far because there's gates back are. But you go back and there's a crossroads, and you go a little further straight through that crossroads and you come to a gate where you can't go any further. There's a gas line that goes back there across that road. It runs back across there. You can go pass to the gas line a little way like maybe a mile more, and then there's another gate there that they always have closed.

39:10 And that's where one of them. The third sighting was that was back there on the right side of the road. When you go back, there's like a lot like a more like a trail that goes back like a tram road. And uh there there's uh it's called the Lost Turkey Trail is back there. It snakes through Ogletan and goes out towards Blueno about that way, and I think it circles back around or something. But uh, I was I went back. I was probably maybe three three hundred yards from the car, probably from the road. I went back there, and it this trail goes back and on the right side it's real thick and on the left side it's more open woods. And uh I went back there and it circles to the right and there's there was a nice log against a tree, and I decided to sit there for the first day a buck. And uh, I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, uh i, uh, I seen something brown and it was kind of deer color, but it was darker. But I at first I thought maybe it was a darker color deer or something. So I picked up my rifle when I had nice scope

40:42 on it and uh i, uh uh I picked the scope up on it and I seen I thought it was a game warden. At first, I thought it looked like somebody in like uh like brown on clothing. You know. I thought, what kind of idiots in the woods on the first day of hunting, uh you know, in all brown, no no orange or nothing. And I so I had a small pair of binoculars in my bag and I pulled them out because I since I didn't realize it was a person or something, and I put my gun down real quick, you know, because at first I thought it was a deer and uh, so I put the binoculars on it, and uh one I focused down on it, I realized that wasn't it wasn't clothing. It was hair on it. It had hair covering all of it. And it was walking directly towards me down this little hill right before that trail, the Turkey trail back here. And when it walked down over that little hill, I I noticed it. Its thighs were like freakiously longer, like real long.

42:07 It had real long arms and the same thing. Its head was right on its shoulder, and it had off it was all fur all over it, and it had like an over around its eyes, like about that much where I could see this face. I could see a little flat nose, a little bit of its nose there. But it had like a big brow on it. You could notice it. It was like like a freakish brow on it. This one looked like more giant like to it, because like the thighs of it were like it wasn't like a normal person would be. It was like a giant, you know, it was bigger. And it just walked onto that trail and it went uh to my right on that trail. It never, I guess it never see me or anything, but it then it went out of sight and I didn't see it again. But yeah, that that was enough. That was a different color than the other ones.

43:17 It was like a little bit darker than a deer, like a brownish. The other ones were like a dark gray grayish brown, and the skin was like grayish on them gray color. Was it similar to what you had experienced before or was it different than those other ones you had seen? In any way, it was like the the overall appearance of it, it looked the same, but the color was different, and its face was a little bit different, and it was bigger than them other ones that the other ones looked like maybe a normal person with longer arms, you know. Yeah, But that one it had like it seemed to have like a small torso on it, but the legs were like a lot longer on it. And then uh and it on its face, it like its brow and stuff was a lot bigger in the other ones I've seen, they were more the other ones were They had a brow like that, but and where they had a where a human has a nose that sticks out, it was flat right there, like it was flatten. It came out to there to their lips like and then they have

44:49 like lips like an ape, like a monkey, you know, their cheeks like long down to their lips. Oh okay, So when you say that, are you saying like the area from the bottom of the nose to the top of the lip. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, gotcha, got. Were in it then there it almost looks like their nose doesn't stick out on it. It was like sunking into their head because of her I guess because of the brow is out over it. More that So it seems like to me, that's a really interesting detail that not a lot of people bring up.

45:30 I used to ask about it a lot having it in a while, So that's really interesting you'd bring that up. I believe that area is called the filtrum if people want to look look that up. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah. And then you said you've had one one other encounter as well in this this area. Uh yeah, uh actually, uh it was I think it was twenty twenty two. I was, uh, well, actually I had two on that this other lake. It was near Beaverdale out on Route eight sixty nine. If you go from Beaverdale like towards Pavia, PA. There's a road it's Route eight eight sixty nine. And you take that out and there's a lake on the left side. It's called Beaver Dam Run Reservoir and it's called I think they used to call it on a Linda Dam well before it was closed down, but they opened it up the fishing and you can take your boat out on it now.

46:44 And but it's just electric motors. But I went out on that lake with my kayak the one year and I went to I went back like it's almost a mile probably from the dock to the breast and then the right side of the lake extends out into a long cove and it's you can't see it from the breast of the damn there. It's pretty remote. It goes long. It's a long one that goes back and I was on like the breast end of it, and I was like halfway back, almost the whole way back to the the end of that long eddy and uh, I was just fishing the long air. There's a couple inlets ago the streams come into it, and I was I caught a lot of nice big bass in there and stuff.

47:48 I was just fishing for whatever. But uh would bite, you know, so UH, I I made it back like two of those in that's I fished two of them, and I went back, and I was on my way out, and I was going to go to the last inlet in the center of that which I caught a lot of brook trout there before nice ones, and because there's a stream that runs into there, and so I was headed over that way just fishing, and I looked up on the bank and about probably about two hundred feet away or so, there was one of those things standing right on the outside edge of the lake right there.

48:38 And there's no trees there or anything. It's like it's bushes back there, and there's reads in front of it. And it was standing in front of them bushes, just standing there with its arms to its side, watching me fish. And I looked at it. I'm like, holy crap, you could tell it. It was the same way. It had hair all over it except around its eyes like that right on its eyes, and its arms were pretty long on it. But it was just standing there like straight looking at me, and I was I started like kind of moving towards it. And between there and that other cricket comes in. It's real shallow and rocky, and you if you don't watch where you're going, you get stuck in here on rocks. And I got into that area and it was windy that day, and I was kind of looking down so I didn't hit the rocks, and I looked up and it was gone. So it got out of there, like it within a couple of seconds.

49:52 But then just recently and twenty twenty two, I think it was on Memorial Day. Uh Uh. I took my two friends, those guys out bass fishing out on the late gear and uh we went over like right before you get to that eddie on the right side of it. There's a small little inlet in there, and we were catching bluegills and stuff in there, just having fun, you know. All of a sudden we uh we heard what sounded like an al call, kind of like one of those alcol calling and it would do it for like several minutes, and then it would stop and it we wouldn't hear it for a while, and then we heard it like two other times after that. And then the third time when it uh did that, it made like a a more of a it turned into like it wasn't like an how it turned into like a monkey whoop, like multiple ones of them, and they were whooping like over and over, who like a like an eight does you know when they when they start whooping like repeatedly, it

51:26 sounded like more uh, you know, a couple of them back there doing it. But you could, like when you when it sounded like an owl, you could tell it wasn't an owl. It was it it was something trying or someone I thought it was someone imitating one, but it you know, it almost. But then when it turned into whooping like that, we're like, holy crap, you hear that, and we're looking up in there. You can see something dark moving up there, but we you know, you couldn't see it real good, but you could see some moving up in there. And this was so you're you're a guy who spends a lot of time out there fishing and then in the outdoor. So this is different than when like a bard owl starts to sound weird. So you're saying, it was way different than that.

52:18 Yeah, it was like someone trying to imitate an owl something okay, And then when it when it turned from an alcohol to a like a monkey like whooping, you knew it wasn't an owl. There's no way that was now you know, it's not like a bunch of them back there doing the same thing, like you're like a kind of whoop over and over, you know, explain it. But yeah, it turned. It went from an alcohol to and then they started whooping like it. And I thought that was really weird.

53:01 It's some really interesting things that you've been having going on. Sorry, go ahead, yeah, oh then, uh, sorry about that. Uh. The next day, Robbie couldn't go, and Logan and I went there and he uh. We stayed there until, uh, it was starting to get dark and we were we were still heading to the back to the boat launch, and I was fishing the whole way back, and uh, it was dark till we got to the boat launch. And I just got right before the boat launch, and uh, I was I was driving and I was in the back of the boat using the trolling motor, and he was facing me like towards the back of the boat.

53:54 And when I got into the right before the boat launch, he yelled, look over there, and he was pointing across the from the dock in the trees right there. And I looked over and I didn't see nothing. I said, what did you see? He said, there was something peeking out from a tree right there, and I seen two glowing red eyes. I said, nah, and he said, yeah, I just seen it. I'm dead serious. And then we heard something back there, walking like around to where our car was parked. Over there, there's a there's like a little creek that runs in right there to the left of the like if you're facing the parking lot, it'd be to the left, and you could hear something crunching going around that way, like over towards the car. I had the forty four Magnum with me. I said, you wait here and I'll go get the car real quick.

54:54 And I ran to the car with the forty four and we got down there and loaded it up, and we didn't hear nothing after that, so luckily we got out of here safely. But yeah, I guess he seen. He described it as two glowing eyes and it was like peeking out from behind the tree over there. Oh wow, that's crazy. But man, do you ever get to the point where you don't want to go out anymore or you're just you're okay with it.

55:35 I'll go out, but uh, I don't like to go night fishing at all. I won't I'll I'll leave before it gets dark. Now it definitely changed that. And you when I used to hunt, I used to go in before daylight with a flashlight and I knew where I wanted to sit, and I'd sit there until dark if I didn't see anything. You know, a lot of times, you know, so I was always walking in and out of the woods at dark. Not not anymore. I don't do that either. M hmm. Yeah, based on you know, what you've seen over the years, would you how would you classify what bigfoot is? Do you have any thoughts about that?

56:24 In my in my mind, I think they're like a cross between a uh, like a gorilla type ape and a human and they're I think they're more human than they are eight in my uh from what I've seen and seen them, they they they remind you a lot of a gorilla, but a lot like most of their features are like a human's, like their you know, their body and their shoulders, the way they stand and everything, it's like a human more they're you know. And I that the one, the first one that I seen that that it got up and like it galloped. It looked like it was galloping for thirty yards on all fours.

57:19 It used its front legs like an ape, and it then it got up on its back legs and ran like a It was fast, you know, real fast, like a person. So, you know, I I think they're more human than they're like human like than they are ape like. But they have their feet, facial features or a lot of that is like an ape. You know. That's so I think it's like a cross between or something. I don't know. It's it's pretty weird because they have face you know, where a human normally doesn't have it on like from here up. You know, they had face facial hair like covering their nose and everything. You know. Yeah, it was thinner right there, but they still had like a thin hair round around their eyes and stuff.

58:22 It's it's definitely one of the last great mysteries of the world, I would say, And I mean, you are one of the only guys out there from what I've heard, that can say you back on backhanded a bigfoot, which is pretty wild. But it's not that you did it because you wanted to, I think, would you say, it was probably more in a self defense type deal. It was out of survival instinct because I thought it was gonna grab me and kill me right there, and I had to get away from it. There's no way other way I could have done it, you know. I just I didn't even think about it. I just when I seen him eyes grow let glow red, I knew something was not right, and I it just freaked me out, you know, I'm like, get the heck away from me, you know, And I yelled at the top of my lungs, and I just hit it as hard as I could.

59:27 And that's luckily it scared. It seemed to like it startled it like if she, you know, something touched him, you know, and he wasn't expecting that. He wasn't expecting me to hit him. And I think I was lucky to get out of her life. I would agree with you. I'd say you're very lucky to be here telling the story today. But Jeff, thank you so much for spending some time and sharing what you've experienced over the years. Definitely definitely keep us in mind if if you experience anything else out there in Pennsylvania.

1:00:07 But thank you so much for coming on the show today. No problem, Thanks for having me. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

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