Jan. 29, 2026

Off Grid with Sasquatch | Smoky Mountains

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Season 1

From the Rocky Mountains of northern Utah to the deep hollers of the Tennessee Smokies, something has been there the whole time.


In this episode, Brad shares a lifetime of experiences that began as a child in the foothills above Huntsville Valley, Utah, followed him into the remote bow-hunting areas near Curtis Creek and Lost Creek, and continues today on an off-grid property deep in eastern Tennessee.


What starts as a strange daytime observation in Utah turns into nighttime activity, unexplained movement through hunting camps, a violent disturbance near a parked truck, and one of the most aggressive vocalizations ever described on the show — heard from just outside a remote campsite.


Now living completely off-grid, Brad documents ongoing activity around his Tennessee property: altered access routes, unnatural tree damage, persistent forest sounds, and an area of land that feels intentionally closed off.

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You're listening to Bigflat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got

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the privilege of talking to Brad today. Brad is a

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mountain man living off grid in the smoky mountains down

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there in Tennessee. Welcome to the show, Brad. How are

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you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing great. Appreciate the opportunity to share my experiences.

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Absolutely. I want to point out a few things about

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brad setup, which is probably the coolest setup a guest

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has ever had. Brad is literally hanging out outside by

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the fire. So if you might see some smoke come

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across Brad's screen, that's just part of the ambiance. It

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hats off to him. I guess it's a little bit

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chilly where you're at today, right, Brad, Yeah.

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It's about thirty five degrees right now.

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Yeah, right right out out there where what you're doing

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off grid, you're definitely you're used to it. What a

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place to do that too, down the Smokey's beautiful area.

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But you know, Brad, I know a bit about what

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you've experienced over the years, and it sounds like your

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story goes way back to different places. So I would say,

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you know, feel free to take us back to when

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you first started having experiences with what you found out

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to be a bigfoot.

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Okay, Well, like I said, I'm used to the cold

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weather because I born and raised in nor the Utah

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and the Rocky Mountains, and spent my childhood growing up

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in a little town called Huntsville that nobody knew about

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back then. But two thousand and two Winter Olympics came

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through there and that changed everything. Everyone knows about it now.

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But part of why I'm in Tennessee currently. But when

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I was a child, I had a friend that lived

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we'll say, in the northeast corner of the Huntsville Valley.

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Area there and me and him and two other friends

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of ours, So it was Richard, Sean and Jeff I

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believe was He didn't hang out with as much. So

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I'm a little blurry on his name, but I first

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sear his name was Jeff. But anyways, me, Richard, Shawn,

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and Jeff was out there. And behind Richard's house there

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was a hill that just went up into the mountains,

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you know that. Well, there was a field behind his

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house first and horses and stuff, and then just went

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up into the foothills and on up into the mountains

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from there. And we decided that we were going to

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hike up to this point that we could see from

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his backyard up there, which which from his backyard we

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thought that was the top of the mountain. We found

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out later it was just a top of a hill,

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but we were little kids, and so anyway, we packed

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our lunches and we headed off. We took off on

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up the mountain. We was going to make our climb

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to the summit. And on the way up there, I'm

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not sure what initially caught our attention about these trees

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on the hillside, because the whole hillside's pretty at this

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time of the year it was summertime. This would have

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been sometime around seventeen seventy six. Fourth of July celebration

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was going on that year, and we so the graund

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The whole hillside is kind of a yellow color with

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kind of the gray green of sagebrush modeled in with it,

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with an occasional juniper tree, and most of the junipers

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that grew on those hillsides were you know, ten to

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fifteen feet tall. And anyway, something caught our attention about

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these three trees that were up there, and we noticed them,

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and I pointed out that, yeah, I look, they're in

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a perfect triangle the way they're positioned, and you know,

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just silly stuff kids talk about. Anyway, we continue climbing up,

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and as we kept going up the mountain, some about

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those trees kept catching my taip. I wasn't focused on them,

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but something just kept drawing my attention over that way,

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and I started noticing that, God, there's those trees seemed

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to be in really weird position compared to the way

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they looked before. Because you know, sure my angle on

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the mountain had changed, but but it just didn't seem

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right the position of those trees anymore. But anyway, we

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just continued on up and got to the summit that

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we found out was just a little foothel basically, you

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know in the Rocky Mountains, things get pretty pretty high

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up there. And anyway, uh so we decided, well, we've

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made it here. We stopped at and was eating our lunch. Well,

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while I was eating, always eating our lunch, something caught

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my attention and I looked back over there just now

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to the left of me and noticing there's only two

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trees over there, And I thinking, am I crazy? I

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know there were there were three trees. There's only two

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trees on that hillside. So I turned to my friends

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and asked them how many trees did we see on

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that hillside? And they're all like, there was three? Where

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did the third tree go? And so all of a sudden,

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there's four kids are hair on the back of our

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neck stood up, and we're like, when did trees start

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walking away? Because there's you know, only two trees there now.

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And now, like I say, these trees are between ten

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to fifteen feet tall, most of them. So whatever it

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was you that was there that walked away was something

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that looked like a ten to fifteen foot tall kind

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of conical shaped like a juniper tree grows out in

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the open sunlight like that. And we at that point

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decided it was time to head back home, and we

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took off running down that hillside and we got down

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to the bottom and back into the field with the

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horses and stuff, and we decided, okay, we're safe. You know,

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we slowed down. We was just walking across the field

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at that time. Yon the horses in the field, they

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were used to us being back there all the time.

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They weren't reacting to us whatsoever. We was about halfway

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across that field and those horses went crazy, like I've

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never seen them back like that, and they ran out

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towards the way the field was that it was kind

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of a big, huge square field, and their house sat

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in the front right corner of the field, and so

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part of the field had road frontage on it, and

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they ran all the way up to that roadside of

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the fence and was just back and forth, back and

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forth like they were looking for a way to get

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out past that, out of that pasture. You know, just

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completely irrational behavior. Never seen him behave like that before.

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Wore that and so we all just like we need

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to get inside. So we ran inside the house and

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you know, I remember his mom yelled at us, what

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you kids, settled down, whatever you're up to you and

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you'd go settle down. So we went and hid in

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his room until it was time to go home. Well,

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that next morning, Richard called me and he said, did

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it come to your house? And I said what? And

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he said, did it come to your house? Sorry, I'm

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a little teared up because rest in peace Richard's out

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with a city mark. But I said, no, it didn't come.

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It didn't come to my house. What are you talking about,

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you know? And he says, well, last night something pounded

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on my bedroom wall. And he says, and I looked

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and I could see its head looking through the window. Now,

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Richard's bedroom that had kind of one of those It

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was a one story home, but it had those high

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up windows that only folded out, so they weren't down

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the normal eye level, you know, they were like along

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the ceiling line of the room. And so for something

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to be looking in through that window from outside, it

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had to be ten eleven feet tall, which would match

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with the size of what we assumed was a tree

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up on the hillside. But he says, yeah, looked in

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the window and just stood there for a minute, and

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then he heard a low growl, like just a rumbling growl,

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and then it walked away. And we decided that that

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was our warning not to go back up on that

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hillside again. And we never did. We, you know, just okay,

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we get the message. We won't mess with your area,

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and you don't come scares us in the middle of

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the night. No more. So we didn't really tell anyone

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about that because a lot, you know, we wondered if

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we'd get in trouble for going hiking up the hill

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like that, because I don't think we really told his

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mom what we were up to. We was just you know,

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kids off adventuring. But so we never really talked about

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it or anything after that. But then years later I

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started bowhunting, and this is what attracted me or got

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my attention to your podcast. As you were interviewing I

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can't remember his name, but some guy there in Ogden area,

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and he was talking about Curtis Creek and that's the

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area where I used to go bowhunt. And I started

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going up there bowhunting, and first year I was up there,

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I was with a group of guys, and we'd gone

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in further back and he was talking about we was

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arched basins about halfway to get to where we would going.

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We were back in by a place where that everyone

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calls the island, and uh, and it's just the way

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the road goes around a certain high mountain. It's kind

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of creates an island to the way the road goes

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around it, so they call it that. But uh, I

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used to set my tree stand up on the top

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of that mountain and hunt boho up there on top

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of that mountain. It was it was the center of

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the island. But anyway, we were off on the east

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side of the island that year and I heard something

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in the middle of the night come through camp. And

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it was obviously not moves or out, you know, it

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wasn't It was bipedal. You know, you can tell when

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something's walking on two feet. It just that it sounds different.

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And I was in a tent and so I just

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kind of laid there and was real quiet and listened

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to whatever walked through. And it walked on through and

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kept going, didn't stop and mess with anything. They just

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walked through camp. Whatever it was. But I could tell

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it was big. I could tell it was bipeel and

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I laid there and wondered, I wonder if that's that

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thing we saw when I was a kid. Yo, Well

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that was all happened that year. The next year up

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there hunting with and I was with the same guys

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in the same area, and I didn't hear anything, but

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got up the one morning and they're all like, did

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you hear that last night? What? Ah? There was some

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kind of something out there in the forest making all

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kinds of noise and busting branches and tearing things up,

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And I was like, oh no, I slept right through it.

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Didn't hear nothing new. Well that night I did here

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and I think it might have been because I was

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keeping an ear out, you know, sleeping lighter than normal.

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I don't know, but something ran through the forest about

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where we were at. And now I've hiked up into

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that area and you could barely wiggle your way through it.

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It's so thick. It's just thick, thick conifer forests, just

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hard to get through. And something went through there, like

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like it was running through the park and it, I

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mean branches and just the sound was just unbelievable, how

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much commotion it made is it just ripped its way

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through the forest whatever it was, and you know, every

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one of us came out of our tents. I was

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in a trailer actually that year, and come out of

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our tents trailers, going what is going on? And we

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didn't hear anything else, So we all just kind of

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settled down and went back a bit. Well, the following

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year up there about hunting, I didn't have any experiences.

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But a year after that, I was up there and

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I'd gone up by myself, and I was on the

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other side of the island, so this would be the

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west side of that area. And I pulled into a

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little spot right past this place they call Red Ponds,

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and I was sleeping in my truck, no camp or

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no nothing, just sleeping in the back of the truck.

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I got a big crew cab and something hit the

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side of my truck, and I mean it rocked that

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truck and woke me up from dead sleep, and I

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looking around trying to figure out what's going on, you know,

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shining flashlight, you never saw nothing, didn't no explanation for

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what had hit the truck, what happened, And so I

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was awake from that point until sunlight started coming up,

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and I got up to pike up to my tree

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stand to do some bowling before the sun came up.

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And I hiked up there to that thing, but I

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don't know how many times, but I got about halfway

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up there, and I got struck with a sense of

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fear and unease and just discomfort that I can't explain

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because I didn't hear nothing, I didn't see nothing, and

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I'm used to being out I mean, I'm out here

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in the woods by myself for days on end, and

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I'm used to that. But something spooped me so bad

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that I turned and went back, got in my truck

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and decided I was done hunting that season. And I

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didn't hunt that season, So I decided I was going

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to get over that spooking and took my wife up

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there camping the next year, about three weeks before the

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Bohut started, and we went over. There was all kinds

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of people up there, riding ATVs and campers and there,

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you know, all kinds of just activity going on just

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up and down the roads. And so we had gone

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over to a spot that was kind of back off

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away from all the roads, and it was just another

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spot that's kind of southeast of that island area there,

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and set up camp there and we was having a

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nice time. Well, I had a job interview. We would

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spend a whole week up there, and I had a

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job interview on Hill Air Force Base. I had to

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run down there to go even interview. So I went

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down to that left my life up there. I wouldn't

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worry about it because there was all those people who

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had been there at all, you know, the whole time

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they've been up there. But I got done and it

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was coming back in that afternoon and there's nobody. There's

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nobody in any of the camp camp spots, all the

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no ATV's motorcyclis coming up down the road. I mean,

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it just everyone had just gone home. And this was

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a Monday, you know, so it was Monday morning that

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I had gone down to do the interview. And so

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the further I get back in there, because you know,

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it's about eight miles back in there from where you

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turn off the pavement to get all the way back

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into where we was at. And you know, the further

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I got back in there without seeing any other campers

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and stuff, the more I started worrying about my wife

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and h I was happy when I got there to

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find her okay and stuff, but just nobody up there

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at all, not even ATV riders and stuff. That was

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I'd never seen it like that. Even boat there's always

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somebody up there riding during you know. But anyway, so

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I was happy to find her okay, and we settled

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in for the night and we're sitting around campfire and

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just doing our things. All of a sudden, from I

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mean it couldn't have been one hundred yards away, just

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up on top of the hill that we was right

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there next to, came a howl stream hot I don't

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know what to call it. It was at just a

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huge screeching howling, I mean, just deep, thunderous secting, like

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a lion and a gorilla and an elephant all going

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off at the same time or something. I mean, just undescribed,

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but it was obviously a displeasure with us being there.

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Was the immediate message I got from the sound of it.

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It was a territorial get out of my house kind

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of just howl, just angry howl. And my wife of

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course looks over at me. I was like, what's that.

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I'm thinking, Okay, what am I going to tell her

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this is without terrifying her, because at that point I

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was convinced that that bigfoot, but I can't tell my

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wife that, right, So I'm trying to say, well, maybe

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it's it was a moose or elk or something that

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got damage to its throat, or trying to come up

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with some crazy explanation to have my wife freak out

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in the middle of the forest in the middle of

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the night. And anyway, she wasn't buying my crap. She said,

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I don't know what it was, but I'm going to bed.

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And I tried to pretend like I wasn't spooped, because

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I was really trying not get her scared. And so

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I sat out there by the fire for about fifteen minutes.

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And the longer I sat there, the more spooped I got,

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because I was I was hearing movement like it was

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slowly making its way closer and closer and closer through

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the trees towards me. And so finally I decided, Okay,

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I'm gonna quit pretending to be a tough guy and

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I'm going into the trailer. So I went in and

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told her, yeah, I think whatever it was went away,

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and we managed to settle down and go sleep that night.

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But we we got up and left that next morning.

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We didn't stay. We was going to stay like three

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or four more days than that, and we went it

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went home, And that's the last time I ever went

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up to that area and camped or hunted or anything

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until and then we moved to Tennessee. And so that

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brings me to the next phase of my story. Because

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the land we bought is completely undeveloped off grid. I mean,

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I had to the first thing I had to do

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is create the road to get in here, to even

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start clearing area, to start building anything. You know, everything

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you see behind me, I've mailed out of my own

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forest and hand nailed together myself. But the beginning of

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that process coming up in here, the little road I'd

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cut in stuff. I've been up here working all day,

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gone home one night and having a little excavator up here,

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was clearing out spot to get an RB into. And

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I come up next morning and I had where I

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had to park at that point because I hadn't graveled

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the whole road, and it was winter times, so the

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road would get real mucky, so I couldn't drive the

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truck all the way up in so I'd have to

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park the truck down at what I called the turnaround

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spot at that time, and then I carried two cans

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of diesel fuel up the mountain to get to the

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excavator and get back to work. I got up to

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where just to where the excavator was, and there was

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a tree sapling well big, you know, twenty foot talls happened,

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had been bent over across the road, and the top

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of it was tied into a root ball and stuff

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in a way to where I literally had to get

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a saw and cut it to get it loose. It was.

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It was like it was just twisted into there with

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such force that it walked in and I couldn't. I

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had to cut it get it to come out. Now,

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no other true year around that had fallen that could

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have possibly pushed it over and made it do that

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little explanation whatever. I maybe we took it as a

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sign that someone's telling me that it didn't want me here.

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So I spent a couple of days wandering around the

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forest and communing with the forest and communing with God, so,

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you know, just explaining my intention and and and and

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saying prayers and talking to the forest and anything that

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may be listening to let them know my intentions here

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that I plan on being part of the forest. I'm

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not here to take it away from anybody, you know.

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And since do that, I haven't had anything happen that

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seemed to be aggressive, which I'm very grateful for. But

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I do get notices, I guess the best way to

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put it. They're not aggressive. They're not nothing screaming or

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howling at me in the night, nothing like that, but

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just noises in the forest that don't coincide with the

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sounds that I normally hear. I'm sure during this podcast

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you've heard that pilated woodpeckers going off in the background,

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and the little rims, and the forest has got its

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own music that it makes all day long. But I'm

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so in tune and familiar with it that anything that's

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outside of the norm catches my attention. And I hear knocks.

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There's trees that there's a ridge line here that I find,

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trees that are all broken in the same direction, showing

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a path guiding you right up the path. If you

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watch for them and follow them, they're all there, and

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they are all trees that are broken. You know, there's

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trees all around them, no other reason why they no

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other trees broken, just one tree right there and snapped

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in a way that is, you know, obviously it's been

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grabbed up high and snapped over. You know, the wind

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doesn't just snap the top of a tree off like

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there've been to the top of a tree like that

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and not cause chaos to the trees around it at

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the same time. And so I got that going on

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all the time here. But back up on the back

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forty of the property, I've only been up there a

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few times, but we've found a old cabin up in there.

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There's an old hunting cabin somebody had built and abandoned,

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and it's hard to get to because well, first off,

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it's got trees that have fallen over on top of it,

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and then all the way around it, the whole forest

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there's trees that are fallen, and they're falling just in

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a way to where they create a barrier. It's it's

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not like they all got blown by the wind and

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fell over one direction. They're they're like lattice work, and

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they're not chopped down. They're pushed over there. You know,

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rootball still attached a tree falling over. And both times

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I've been up there and fighting my way through to

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even get to that cabin, I've just got the direct

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impression that something did that intentionally. It doesn't want anyone

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up there at that gap. I mean, that's the only

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conclusion I could come to, you know, if I could see,

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because I know the way the winds come into this mountain,

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the way they blow. They they come from one direction.

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They don't blow back from the other direction hard enough

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to blow a tree over, because they'd have to come

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over the mountain and then back down to do that.

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And so just the way those trees are falling, it's like, Okay,

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now these aren't These aren't falling because of wind these

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Something has made these trees fall over. And so I

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just kind of leave that area alone up there. I figure,

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I don't I don't need to go up there for

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anything anyway, and it's hard to get up in there,

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and don't I just get the impressions somebody uses that

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and doesn't want me up there messing around. You know. Eventually,

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I'll probably build me a road up there enough to

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clear out some of that stuff out of the cabins,

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out all kinds of usable stuff in it. Still, it's

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just hard to even get to you. And I can't

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imagine trying to haul stuff out of there by hand.

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I'd have to build a road there to even do

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anything about it. But just kind of a crazy spot

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up there that I can only I can only assume

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it's the same creatures that have been making the other

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signs around here in the haller that just and and

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you can call me crazy, but I believe it's bigfoot.

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I don't think you're crazy at all. That sounds like

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the potential for very active area. You said, is it

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just you there or your wife is there as well?

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Me and my wife and her cat.

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Does the cat ever react to anything in a weird way?

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Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, There's there's times ween the cat. He

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wants to be out and underfoot all the time. He

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wants to be hanging out with me when I'm out

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doing things. His favorite thing to do is wander through

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the forest with me, and and especially if if the

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mom is coming with us, then he's really happy. But

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he gets times where he doesn't want to be outside

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unless I'm outside. And he's usually quite independent, wanting out,

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you know, monstering all night long. He's you know, living

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his best life up here, but he does. He definitely

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has times where where he just he wants to be

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inside and he wants to be close to Daddy. He

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doesn't want he wants somebody to make him feel safe.

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And I noticed the behavior, you know, I guess I

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just always assumed he'd had to run in with the

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coyote or possum or raccoon or you know, because we

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have the whole camp. But up here we got bears.

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We got it, you know, we got it all. I've

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had turf wars with the bears, letting them know that no,

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they can't scare me out of here, and learning to

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speak their languages, you know, marking my territory. But they

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finally quit leaving us alone. They've decided I'm more danger

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than I'm worth. But we get all kinds of critters here.

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I mean, they're just it's it's we're out in the

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woods and so definitely a lot of activity for wildlife

461
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.799
just in general. But like I say, I do know

462
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:47.759
there's there's things I hear in the forest that don't count.

463
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:54.640
They don't count for normal sounds, their unusual activity.

464
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:59.160
Has your wife ever experienced anything when she's been. I

465
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.359
don't know if she goes on walks out in the

466
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.519
woods as well, or.

467
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.920
She doesn't go out on her own. She stays. She's

468
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:13.359
she's pretty dependent on me as far as Phelix safe

469
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.759
and secure up here. She stays in the trailer a

470
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.039
lot of time. Of course, you know, she has business

471
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:26.200
that she runs out of Bristol. She so she goes

472
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.039
there and does that a lot too. So she's not

473
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:35.960
as adventurous outdoorsy as I am, but she's I think

474
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:43.200
her only real experiences has been the camping experience in

475
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.720
Utah and then the things that I've pointed out to

476
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.279
her because I've showed her, shown her the signs that

477
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:53.359
I've noticed around here, and she's like, oh wow, yeah, okay,

478
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.279
I see what you mean. Yeah that that doesn't make sense.

479
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:03.960
Yeah, exactly. So you're seeing a lot of trees that

480
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:08.720
are affected. Have you ever had any seen anything that

481
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.880
looks like footprints around your cabin?

482
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:17.720
Well, footprints would be tough around here. I mean, I've

483
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.680
got ground that I've cleared that I watched for stuff

484
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.319
like that. But the only thing I've ever seen is

485
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.200
just bear tracks and you know, other smaller craters. But

486
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.599
the forest around here is just covered with leaf bed

487
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:41.440
so and anywhere that those leafs aren't there, it's because

488
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.480
there's a rock sticking up through it, and so there's

489
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:50.319
not really any bear soil. Now, having said that, I've

490
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.960
seen a lot of places where something has slid in

491
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.759
the leaf bed that to me, it looks like it

492
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.039
would have to be either a bear fell down and

493
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.559
slid a little ways, or something with a really big

494
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.759
big foot stepped and slid a little ways. But it's

495
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.200
a big slide, you know, And if you've ever hiked

496
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.480
around in area like this, you know what I'm talking about.

497
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.319
When you step on when you're going up a hill

498
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.920
and step on and the leaves slide under your foot,

499
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.559
it makes a little pile of leaves with a skid

500
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:28.920
above it that makes it obvious something slid there. And

501
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.039
you know, the size of a skid like that that

502
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.519
my foot would make was only half the size of

503
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:43.759
these that I've seen, and I wear size thirteen. So

504
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.240
something with big feet, it looks like to me, has

505
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:54.240
gone up few of these slopes and slid in areas

506
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.759
getting up to the next spot. And that's the only

507
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.000
thing I could I could tests, you know, unless unless

508
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:03.799
a bear, like I say, it take like a bear

509
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.200
bouncing off his butt coming down there to make some

510
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:13.480
similar size skid like that. Yeah, so once again, you know,

511
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:18.000
no real tangible evidence, you know, and things that I

512
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:23.360
have seen is you know, you either understand and believe

513
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.400
or you come up with some reason not to I guess,

514
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:31.840
but I know what I've heard, you know, and that

515
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.519
sound we heard in Utah. There's one of the big

516
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.280
Foot shows that was on TV. I don't remember which one,

517
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.440
but they were up that same area that they was

518
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.199
coming up from the other side up in Logan, Utah.

519
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.119
But they those canyons, if you follow them up, they

520
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:51.280
come to the same point up there at Lost Creek area.

521
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.519
But they was doing a show up there and they

522
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.559
were out doing their nighttime investigation. And I heard that

523
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:04.519
howl on their show and immediately recognized it. And they

524
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.320
heard it too, and they were like, oh why I

525
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:13.480
but yeah, I've heard that how in real life and

526
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:21.400
on television and immediately immediately recognized it. It's unmistakably the same.

527
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.199
How a really interesting story. How things have followed you

528
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:31.199
since that early age and now it sounds like you're

529
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.400
dealing with it pretty regularly on this property.

530
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:41.199
Yeah, I well, I get the impression that they accepted

531
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:46.360
my you know, my explanation as to why I'm hearing

532
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.599
what I'm doing, and they've accepted me as part of

533
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.639
the forest, you know, even the animals, the way the

534
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.400
animals act. There's birds that come check on me every

535
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.119
day if I'm not out doing my thing. By seven

536
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.400
o'clock in the morning, there's herbs outside the trailer a

537
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.639
chirping and making a commotion until I come out, and

538
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.880
they know that everything's everything's back to normal, that the

539
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.639
noisy guy's back at his game. But the air they've

540
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.880
accepted me, that the forest is. I feel like it's

541
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:24.000
embraced us here and and beyond that, I feel like

542
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.960
the sasquatch presence has also accepted that we're just part

543
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.039
of the forest. We're not we're not a problem, so

544
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.639
to speak, you know. M And that's kind of the

545
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.519
energy I get even when I when I out in

546
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.880
the forest, except when I was back up in that

547
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.719
back corner of the property. Yet that's the only place

548
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.239
I've been out here since that initial encounter here that

549
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:54.400
I felt a little uneasy about being there. And I

550
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.440
have to wonder if one of them wasn't close by

551
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.880
saying hey, uh, you know, you're kind of getting into

552
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:03.639
our area. Because I think they have that ability to

553
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.039
whether it's the what do they call it, the infrasound

554
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.119
or infrasound or ultrasound with the deep rumbling down, they

555
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.719
can do whatever. I'm not a wise man. I don't

556
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:23.480
know the anund but uh, I think it has something

557
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.159
to do with that I experienced when I was bow

558
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.639
hunting up in Utah and what I've experienced up there,

559
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:35.920
because just a just a unexplained uneasiness, you know, just

560
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:37.599
which isn't natural.

561
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.920
For as has anything else happened on that property that

562
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.760
was out of the ordinary but maybe not related to

563
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.199
a sasquatch in your mind?

564
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.119
Well, I have to wonder if there isn't some kind

565
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:04.400
of either Native American or possibly Civil warrior trauma. I

566
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:09.360
hear that. I can't really say that, you know, any

567
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.159
spirits or ghosts or anything like that have manifested or anything,

568
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.760
but just sometimes at night when I'm sitting outside listening

569
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:25.679
to the forest, I hear what sounds almost like I

570
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.320
don't know if it's a male or female, but just

571
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.599
a just like a soft sigh like.

572
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:38.360
A and I every time I hear it, I always

573
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.119
look around and listen and wonder, how did I I

574
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.039
hear somebody's sigh?

575
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.360
But I never do any hear any follow up or anything,

576
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.840
get anything. But I do hear that probably once every

577
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.519
two or three months. I'd spend a lot of time

578
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.960
sitting out at night, just enjoying the sounds of the forest,

579
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:06.280
watching the batswine through the moonlight. I'm just an outdoors guy.

580
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.079
I enjoyed being out here by myself. Most people think

581
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:09.920
I'm crazy, but.

582
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.280
I mean it sounds great to me. It sounds like

583
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.800
a great idea. I think more people are trying to

584
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:18.119
do it.

585
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.239
To be honest, I'm not good. I'm not going to

586
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.400
pull anybody's leg. It's it's a hard lifestyle to take on.

587
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.199
There's you know, you've got to be willing to take

588
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:31.199
on whatever comes your way. But uh hmm, it's definitely

589
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:37.360
rewarding and I I wouldn't trade it for anything. I

590
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.480
feel like I'm the richest guy in the world, even

591
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.119
though I ain't got any money in the bank.

592
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:51.760
At this point, Brad and I lost connection, possibly due

593
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:56.039
to the off grade set up that Brad was utilizing,

594
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.920
but we were able to have a great conversation. Nonetheless,

595
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.480
thank you to Brad for figuring out how to do

596
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.880
what he was able to do with his off grid

597
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.760
lifestyle and coming on the podcast today to share what

598
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.239
he's experiencing down there in Tennessee. Have you ever heard

599
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.480
all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and

600
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.199
you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get

601
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.480
out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well,

602
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.880
guess what this year you can. If this is interesting

603
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.119
to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer

604
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Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty

605
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twenty six. It's going to be even better than the

606
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.639
previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers.

607
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.760
It's going to be wild. I'll probably I'll say this.

608
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.760
There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because

609
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.960
let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got to

610
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.400
be there. We'll leave at that. More about looking for

611
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.559
Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You

612
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:10.239
may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

613
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this year you can not only go to the festival,

614
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:22.199
but you can also sign up for a track deep

615
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in the Wild Forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

616
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to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

617
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eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this

618
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will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

619
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documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

620
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once in a lifetime deal. It's it's going to be

621
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a wild wild experience. To get a ticket, head on

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to get a two day pas for the price of

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626
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me that code so that you guys can can get

627
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a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

628
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.079
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

629
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.559
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

630
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:25.880
to talk to so many people last year and the

631
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.079
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

632
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:31.920
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

633
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.519
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

634
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.800
directly to a very specific group of listeners if you're

635
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:43.599
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

636
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.440
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

637
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.760
a National park ranger or forestreet worker who's been told

638
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.760
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

639
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:56.079
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

640
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the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

641
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.559
still mbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

642
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And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

643
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responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

644
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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

645
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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

646
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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

647
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.599
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

648
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.000
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

649
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.000
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

650
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.519
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

651
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.320
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

652
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.719
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

653
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.519
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous,

654
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.880
you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

655
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.719
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

656
00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:00.400
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

657
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.920
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

658
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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

659
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