Jan. 4, 2026

Retired Army Medic Encounters Something Watching Him In The Missouri Ozarks

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, a retired U.S. Army combat medic shares a chilling firsthand account of unexplained activity deep in the Missouri Ozarks. After moving to a remote area near Shannon County and the Jacks Fork River, he begins experiencing aggressive dog reactions, terrifying guttural growls, tree snaps, clicking sounds, and the unmistakable feeling of being watched.


What makes this encounter different is the evidence. The witness recorded audio and video capturing growls, huffing sounds, rapid movement through the woods, and a late-night shotgun blast from a nearby property as something barreled through the valley. He also describes finding footprints, knuckle prints, twisted trees, and a possible kill site, all within a known Ozarks hotspot for Bigfoot activity.


The discussion explores months of escalating encounters, interactions with neighbors, and communications with Missouri conservation and DNR personnel, along with why the witness ultimately left the area. This episode dives into the realities of living in remote wilderness, the dangers of unexplained wildlife encounters, and why the Missouri Ozarks continue to produce some of the most compelling Bigfoot reports in the country.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all.

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Right, pick for the Society. We get the privilege of

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talking to Doc today. Doc is a retired Army combat

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medic and a retired boiler maker. So Doc, welcome to

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the show. You're down there in the Missouri Ozarks. How's

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it going today, man, Yes.

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Sir, it's doing really well.

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Good weather, absolutely, yeah, we were talking about that before.

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And of course, you know, thank you. First off, thank

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you for your service over the years.

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Being in the art.

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I mean, it sounds like you have a lot of

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things to share about your time and experience in different places.

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I want to make sure that you have the time

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to do so, and we will have a discussion about

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it at at the end. But you know, feel free

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to take us back to where you would want to

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start for when all these things started happening for you, Doc.

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Yeah, so yeah, So me and my wife we moved

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down here to the Osarts in two thousand and three

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July two thousand and three, and we had an RB

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set up out here in the middle of nowhere, getting

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ready to homestead, and we lived out here until about September.

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Let me see, September seventh, is whenever all this stuff

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kicked off.

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I heard a lot of dogs outside.

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My neighbor that was there at the time had a

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bunch of Great Pyrenees dogs next and uh, it alarmed

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me that they were, you know, barking so hard. And

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it was about I would say prayer, about four o'clock

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in the morning, and I went outside and I heard

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I heard a howl and it was it was It

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wasn't a howl of a dog or anything else. I

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didn't understand what it was. And I was like, man,

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that's really weird. So so what I did was I

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whooped back at it right just to see if I

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got a response.

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And of course I heard it again, right, and.

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Uh, I got really kind of scared a little bit.

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So I went inside and tried to go to bed

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that night.

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But the next day I went to a birthday party

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and uh the neighbors hadn't been invited to the same

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party that I was at, and they was talking about

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this this how that they had heard on their property.

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And I was like, oh, my gosh, I heard the

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same how. And I was like sitting there listening to

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him because I hadn't.

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Told him yet.

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And they were like, yeah, we had our guns out,

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you know, we were ready for whatever it was it

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was coming up to holler, you know.

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And I was like, oh, that's weird that they were

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doing that. I heard their dogs and I told him,

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you know, I told them the story about I had

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heard it.

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Also, and uh so it all started in September and

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things started working their way around there. On September ninth, I.

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I took a walk.

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And uh, I was hearing a bunch of animal heard

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heard the uh uh oh, some some crows and some squirrels,

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and uh it was probably about seven o'clock in the morning,

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and I was hearing a lot of animals off to

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my left, and I was like, really like, no, what

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is that, you know?

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And I started walking just to just to start.

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Walking because I was I was disabled and I needed

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to get some exercise. So I said, okay, Well, I

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all of a sudden, all those animals stopped hollering, and uh.

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I stopped and looked to my left, and I seen

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something that looked kind of weird to me.

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So I turned my phone on and started recording, and

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I thought I got some pretty good footage of whatever

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it was that I got. And on the on the video,

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you'll hear me say, you know, hey, maybe if I

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get this to somebody that can analyze this, you know.

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And then and then I pretty much stuck off because

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I wasn't gonna stick around and see what it was

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that was sitting there. Later on, on like the fifteenth of September,

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about four point thirty in the morning, this is when

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it got real for me. I heard the same thing

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dogs outside bark and went outside, and uh, I heard

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a low guttural brow that lasted for about ten seconds,

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along with a tree uh, a tree snap and some

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uh some sort of clicking uh like a like a

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it was like a pin, but it was like it

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stopped like it wasn't like it was like and then

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it stopped like that. But yeah, and the tree snaps

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and uh, that went on for that long.

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But the video that I got is split up because.

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The uh I said some things to my wife while

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she was in the trailer that I really didn't I

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really was kind of ashamed about, so I didn't really

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want to put that.

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Out to people.

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But so what happened was is I've got this growl

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and this huffing. This thing's huffing away from me, and

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these dogs are just going nuts. And this thing goes

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flying down through the woods and goes over to down

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into this valley down here, and there's another guy down there,

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and you hear his dogs start barking back at him.

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And then all of a sudden, you hear a shotgun

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blast on the video. And this is four thirty in

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the morning. You know, people don't people don't shoot shotguns

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at four thirty in the morning. So evidently this thing

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come flying back up to where I was at and

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I heard it coming.

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You hear in the video, I hear it coming.

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I'm real quiet, I don't even know if I don't

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even know, I really don't know if it knows I'm

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there or not, but it uh it does that that

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that clicking sound again, and then it goes into like this.

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Uh it's like taking a candy bar wrapper and just

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sitting there just just you know, squisht.

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It in your hands.

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So uh yeah, that was I mean that grow if

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nothing else. Uh you know, I've really been trying to

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get these things looked at. I mean, I don't mind

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if people analyze the audio and the video that I've got.

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I've got, Uh, I've tried to I've tried to reach

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out to the d n R. That's a whole new

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that's a whole new thing there I've got. I've got

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text messages that that that the d NR sent back

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to me saying that, oh, it looks like a bear

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or a bigfoot. So I've got proof of acknowledgment from

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the from the.

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From the from somebody in the state.

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I don't want to say anything or anything like that,

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but I know for a fact that I don't live

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up I don't live up in that area anymore.

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I've had uh.

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Rocks thrown at me, I've had I've been growled at

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more than once, and uh, you know, the only thing.

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One of the things that people.

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Were telling me, Oh, you need to get you know,

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you need to hear the reporter. First of all, I'm

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not a researcher. I'm just a normal guy out here

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trying to live and you know, get a little bit

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of exercise. But the exercise that I was taken was

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I got in the middle of the woods and got

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in the hallers and stuff. So I probably shouldn't have

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been doing that with the with the as sick as

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I was at the time, but I did it anyways.

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And so after that I started getting uh.

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I started getting things like footprints I had. Uh.

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I had some knuckle prints that I had that I

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had found.

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I did have some tree knocks on the video, but

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I lost the video somehow. I don't know if anybody's

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ever heard of a they call it a boneyard in

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the National Park System. But I found a big kill

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site with a lot of different animals with skeletons and

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you know, heads and everything laying all over the place.

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So I've got all this stuff. If anybody wants to

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come down here and walk it with me, I'm hey,

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I'll be more than welcome.

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I mean, I'm not that I'm not that guy that's

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telling you that I got bigfoot on my property and

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we got mind speaking everything else going on. But I

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can tell you exactly what I got, and I can

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show you that, I can show you the truth that

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I have and let you be the let you be

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the judge of what I got going on down here.

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But we actually moved away from that area up there,

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and uh we moved down into the foothills down closer

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to uh, you know, a hospital, so in case anything

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happened to me or my wife, we would be able

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to get closer to to that. I had something whistled

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at me one night on the right before on September eighth,

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I had two branches snap.

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Something about those branches that sound the same.

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And I understand that everybody'll say, well, tree brand snap,

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is tree brand snap?

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Well, something's telling me that. I don't know.

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It just it's it's like a you know, it's like

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every time I hear it, it's like the same thing.

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And I don't know if it has something to do

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with the tree snap or if it has something to

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do with something else.

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I don't know yet. I'm trying. I'm trying to be

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the trying to sit back and do that.

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But the the fact, let me see what else we got, man,

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And I haven't had anything else happened to me since

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then other than.

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While I was up there.

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I mean, when I was up there, I had I

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had I had orbs or something going on across the

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valley that I was seen, excuse me, on the tree

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rot on the ridge across the holler, and.

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Uh, you know, I couldn't. I couldn't figure that out.

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That was That was really weird because that only happened

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one night and it was in the back of somebody's yard.

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And I don't think I could go back over there

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because there was a there's a lot of that's like

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we had like.

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The wild Wild West going on up there.

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Man.

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It really was. Uh you talk about feral people and stuff.

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Like that, that's the it's all up in the hollerd

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and I know exactly where they're at. But oh yeah,

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I mean that's really the one event that I really

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wanted to talk to you guys about was was the

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time that I had from September until about February of

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the next year, two thousand and three, and in two

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thousand and four, it was we had we had mountain

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lion sidings up here, we had we had a wolf

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siding up here.

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I found scat.

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I didn't know if it was coyote or not. I

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had a hair sample that I had stuck in the

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the uh the bumper of my r V and we

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had a real bad, real bad storm one day and

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the wind blew it, blew it, blew it out of

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the hole and I never could find it. But uh yeah,

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I mean it's kind of hard when you got that

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stuff because you're like, Okay, who do who do I

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give this to?

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You know, I don't I don't know. I don't know Jeff.

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Melderm or any of the big wig you know, bigfoot

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people that can probably just hand it off to somebody to.

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Look at, you know. So I held on to it

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for about six.

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Months, and uh yeah, it's uh that's pretty much about

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the only thing that I've had done.

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And like I said, I've.

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Got audio video, I've got I've got I've got footprints,

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pictures of footprints.

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I mean, I never thought i'd be here in Neils Arts.

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I'm originally from Indiana.

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I spent a lot of my time in the in

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the military, and uh oh.

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I retired from Fort Leavenworth. It just seems like everywhere

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that I go in the military.

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And there's always there's always something going on there with

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dog man or or big foot.

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I was.

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I spent four years in Alaska, which is which is

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a whole other story, but I mean I spent time

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at Fort Campbell over seven years at Fort Campbell, Uh,

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you know, LBL dog man and all that.

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Yeah.

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Fort Lavenmore there was an MP that's sold a bipedal

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animal on the backside of the property on on duty

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one night. I mean, it just seems like now that

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I've now that I'm looking at back on the my

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military career and every everywhere that I grew up and everything. Uh,

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in Indiana, I've seen that there's been a lot of

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bigfoot activity and also dogman activity.

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So yeah, it's uh, it's kind of hard to think about.

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That I actually had these encounters with these whatever they

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are things. I think I think that the video that

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I took was a was actually a.

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A juvenile that was that was staring at me.

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And if if I haven't sent the whole video out,

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it's kind of hard for me to get fifty four

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seconds of video out on on on Facebook. So if

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anybody has has seen any of my stuff, it's just

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snippets of what I got.

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And you know, you hear a lot of people say, oh,

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it's so blurry, you know what.

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Yeah, the picture, it's a it's a it's actually a

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screenshot of a video that I took that I blew up.

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That I blew up the actual uh you know, picture

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on the on the on the video, but the the audios,

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somebody would have to actually sit down and listen to

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them with me and and and I can explain to

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him a lot easier about what's what.

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I seen and what I heard. But uh, I mean

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they're out there, man.

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I I I I can, I can. Uh I'm not

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out there looking for him.

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I don't. I don't have any desire to look for him.

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And uh, I would ask everybody to be careful when

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they are out in the woods, especially when with a

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lot of people. And uh, you know, I would say,

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if you were going to go out in the woods,

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I would say, go out.

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By yourself and and do it at a low, low

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key type thing. You know. Seems seems that a lot

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of people that are hikers.

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And and hunters and and things like that go out.

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But I don't know, Man, I grew up. I grew

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up in a family that hunted all the time.

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And fished all the time, and.

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And I just, I mean, I did, I did that stuff,

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but I really didn't have any desire to do it.

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And then when I got out of when I got

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in the military, I went to Colorado, when I went

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to all these places and was el Compton and doing

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all these other things, I just, you know, uh, yeah,

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it's not I don't even have any desire to go

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in the woods, even though I live in the woods. Funny,

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but I'm right next to a county road that comes

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out here, so I don't feel so bad.

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I can get out and go out and do what

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what I need.

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But I'm sorry, but yeah, I uh, that's about all

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that I've got, Jeremi.

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So I'm looking at the email that you sent me,

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and it's it's a it's like a screenshot of a

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pause video, Right, that's the one we're talking about.

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That's that's the uh are you talking about the text

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that I had with the d n R guys.

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I'm talking about the one where it's like you can

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I can see something that looks like a bigfoot in it.

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Yeah, and it's it's it's a blurred screen. Yeah, that's

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a screenshot of me blown up off.

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The video, okay, because it's it's like great dead center

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at the bottom.

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Kind of.

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Do you have Do you have the screenshot of the

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of the text message that I was talking back and

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forth to.

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I do not have that one, but I do have

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the screenshot of the photo or of the video, and

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it literally looks like I can see the dark shoulders

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and the head of something that looks it looks like bifoot.

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I have a fifty four I have a fifty four

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second video okay.

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Of that right there.

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And what I think whenever I see it right toward

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the end of the video, like maybe five six seconds before.

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The end of the video, I think it moves.

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Now.

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I'll leave it up to everybody else.

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But if I can get fifty four, if I can

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get fifty four seconds to you, I will.

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It's on your Facebook.

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No. See, that's the whole thing I'm trying to get.

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I got. I got. All my stuff is on my.

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iPhone right okay, and it's and it's inactive, so I

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have to transfer everything over to this phone in order

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to even get it out to anywhere.

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I don't know. Do you know what? Do you know what.

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Platform is that it holds the most data to send?

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I mean, well, yeah, so you'd have to figure out

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how big the file is and then you could do

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like could it fit in an email or would you

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have to do like a thumb drive or you know.

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Well, the thing about it is is the videos fifty

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four seconds long?

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Yes, I shouldn't be too big.

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What you see it's.

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Fifty four seconds long that I've got It looks just

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like that, but it's a.

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Oh it's too big. I can't send it. I tried

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to send it over Messenger and it wouldn't send either.

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I don't know.

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Maybe what if I loaded up to uh to YouTube?

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Would you be able to download it from YouTube?

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Do you have?

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You'd have to have like a YouTube if you you'd

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make like a YouTube channel and then you could totally

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do that.

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Yeah, I got a YouTube channel that I well, I

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would have. I'll send you an email and let you

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know what my my YouTube channel is. You can get

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on here because it's it's public. Anyways, I don't have

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I've only got like two or two or three videos.

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Do you have the video of the growl and all that.

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No I do.

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I did find on your Facebook. There's like a five

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second clip of that's that okay.

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So that that one right there. I have a five

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minute clip.

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Of the whole the whole uh event that I was

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trying to explain to.

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You, dude.

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It's almost it's almost like you can see it moving.

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It's it's really interesting.

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Yeah, I mean, are you talking about the video?

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Yeah, the video I'm talking about.

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I think the I think the video is very very

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uh uh impressed impressed it to me. But I think

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the audio that I had of the growl and the

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tree snap and the and the clicking action and all that,

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and the huffing of this animal going away from me

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and then coming back after he got shot with or

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got shot at with a.

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Shotgun because I talked, I went down and talked. I

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didn't say that.

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I went down and talked to that guy after all

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of that, and he said, yeah, you know, something came

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barreling down through the through the haller and I just

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I just started shooting, you know, And I was like, man,

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I mean, and everything was being everything was being backed

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up by what other people were saying. You know with

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people that were having things, the same things going on

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with them was going on with me, because see I

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was I was getting out and walking every every day.

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See my property backed up to the uh right below

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the Jacks Fork River, which is right up near Eminence, Missouri,

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which they've had multiple.

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Bigfoot encounters in that area. Anyways, if you if you ever,

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if you get a chance.

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That's why I keep That's why I keep yelling from

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from the rooftops about this county, Shannon County, Missouri.

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Is a hot spot for bigfoot.

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I mean it is a if you look at wine

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on a there's a bigfoot burger there where you can

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eat a hamburger, and then you got you got im.

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It's Missouri, and there's sasquatch all over the place down

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here in this area.

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And I and I didn't come down here because of that.

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But when I got down here, I was like, oh,

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that's pretty interesting because I've gone through all this other stuff.

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I don't know, did hey, you know what I think?

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Did I send you a Did I send you a

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picture of of something in the clouds too?

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Would this have been through email or how would this

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have been sent?

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Because I am it.

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Would have been your email. I probably found some workarounds.

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I probably found some workarounds in your in.

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Your stuff I send you that's okay. Do you prefer

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me sending it to your email or would you?

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Yeah?

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And uh, in social media, stuff just gets lost and

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sometimes it's like you can't access to the old messages.

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So is the best?

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Yeah, you want me to send it to you? And uh,

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excuse me, over over emailed it, right?

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Yeah, just big for society gmail dot com.

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Ye, I mean, I think I hate to think. Yeah,

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I hate I hate that.

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It didn't take me very long to say that, but dude, I'm.

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Really nervous to talk in front of people.

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This is really yeah, I mean, I mean it's really

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really hard for me to I mean, I love it.

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I'd love to tell the story.

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I just haven't told it to too many people, just

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me and my buddy and I you know.

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I tell my wife and my of course, my wife

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thinks I'm nuts. And it's kind of funny because she

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was like she was right there with me when I

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was going through all this stuff.

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And yeah, it's just it's just amazed me because of

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all the things that I've got.

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Dude, I've got I've got, I've got I've got uh. Well,

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I'm not gonna say i've got you, I've got you.

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I think I think I've got either drones or uh

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or UAPs going on on some of my video, which

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is kind of weird, man.

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But yeah, I've got a lot of different stuff. Man.

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I wish during Iowa to you, right, I wish I

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wish you could come down here and see some of

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the stuff I got.

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You know, you don't do that kind of stuff, though,

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do you.

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Well I do, uh, but it's a limited travel time

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per year for certain reason.

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Yeah. And then I I almost.

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Made it down there last year. And then uh it

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was during the remember when all the fires were going on.

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Yeah you're talking about down here, down here in Missouri.

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Well, they were coming down from Canada and all the smoke.

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So when I was in Oregon in July, I almost

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got stuck in a fire. And so it really like

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it I have to deal with For a while, I

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was dealing with a lot of like PTSD type stuff

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and it's that's no joke. And like it was to

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the point where like I canceled a trip to Missouri

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because I was like, I cannot drive on the road

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right now, when there's smoke all around me, Like I was,

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I was in a bad place, dude.

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You know. So I've I spent a lot of time

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up and I will working up in uh Iowa City

478
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:20.720
and and all that stuff along the river.

479
00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:23.039
My my, my, used. I lived in Debute for a

480
00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:28.839
couple of years. Yeah, everybody asked me, how do I

481
00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:30.400
get them? I get them off? I get him off?

482
00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:30.640
Uh.

483
00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:35.880
I always say, hey, spelled the butte for me, and

484
00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:38.640
everybody's like, what do you spell? Spelled the duke? If

485
00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.200
you can spell the ute, you're all right with me,

486
00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:40.599
all right.

487
00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.480
So because it's so easy to spell that, it's like

488
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:46.480
it's d it's d u b u.

489
00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:50.480
Q u E right, the D n R text thing.

490
00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.480
Have you talked to them face to face or is

491
00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:57.079
this just yeah, what happened when you talked from face

492
00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:58.400
to face not just in the text?

493
00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.079
I hate. I didn't want to say too much about it.

494
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:06.200
They pretty much they pretty much told me to stand down.

495
00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:09.400
My family lives up in northern Missouri. And when I

496
00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:11.440
went to Missouri Northern, when I went up there for

497
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:16.759
like I think it was a Thanksgiving of twenty twenty three,

498
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:18.160
and when I came back.

499
00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:19.799
You know, there was some guys that were saying, hey,

500
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:23.000
there's some people here looking for you. And I was like, oh, yeah,

501
00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.599
so who was It wasn't because what it was is

502
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:32.359
that you've got the uh the river the Scenic Riverway Conservation,

503
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.400
and then you've got the Department of Natural Resources, and

504
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.480
then you've got the US Forestry and everybody else around

505
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:40.599
my area right there.

506
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:44.799
So I my my property backed up to thousands and

507
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.480
thousands and thousands of acres, And that really doesn't make

508
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:48.240
any difference to me.

509
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.559
I'm just letting you know what the context was of

510
00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.079
where I was at and the people that I was

511
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.519
talking to and the guy.

512
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:56.960
The guys were like.

513
00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:58.839
The guy I was talking to on the text right

514
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:02.319
there that I said picture sent a picture of The

515
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.119
funny thing was is that he was saying that it

516
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:05.880
looked like a bear. Well, first he said it looked

517
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.160
like flowers, and then he said it looked like a bear,

518
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.920
and then well he goes, or a bigfoot, you know, so,

519
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:14.559
but all the other guys, uh oh, so I was

520
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.319
talking about those. So anyways, I said, how many was it?

521
00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.160
He goes, well, there was three guys. There was three

522
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.200
guys on ATVs and then two guys in trucks, right,

523
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.559
So I was like, okay. So what I did was

524
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.759
I got a hold of my buddies that were DNR

525
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.960
guys in my area, the guys that were in charge

526
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:31.480
of my area, and I said, hey, do you guys

527
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.440
have ATVs and trucks and everything to come out and

528
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:35.680
check things out?

529
00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:37.200
He goes, Now, he goes, I have no idea what

530
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.400
you're talking about. So the dn R.

531
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:43.039
Guys that I was talking to, the conservation guys that

532
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.079
I was talking to, they had no idea that somebody

533
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:46.160
was up there looking for me.

534
00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:47.759
So I don't know what.

535
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.400
I don't know if it was me talking to somebody

536
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.480
somebody else that actually called somebody else to, you know,

537
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:56.119
to investigate.

538
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.160
What I had going on up there.

539
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:59.240
Because the place where I was seeing all this stuff

540
00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.240
is not only is it is it public and land,

541
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.839
But you can't get there unless you go through my

542
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:06.759
property to get there.

543
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:10.319
Does that make sense? You can't.

544
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:12.359
You can't come from the river because it's out in

545
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.319
the middle of nowhere and there's no roads or anything else.

546
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:17.400
You have to go through my property, through the the

547
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.880
little trail that I've got to get through.

548
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.680
To this area where where I've seen all this stuff at.

549
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.880
And uh, it was just really amazing to see everything

550
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:29.759
changed daily as I walked as I walked through that

551
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.799
same path daily for you know, five six months, and

552
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:35.039
I just seen different things.

553
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:35.400
I seen.

554
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:39.640
I seen trees twisted, and I've seen footprints and I

555
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.799
seen uh, knuckle prints, and I was like, I was like,

556
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:46.400
this is really weird, you know, and then I was

557
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:50.400
I was hearing this. I think my most impressive thing

558
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:53.960
that that that I've actually captured was the growl. I mean,

559
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.480
if I if I get that to you, uh, I'd like,

560
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.720
I'd like to send you the whole I'd like to

561
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:04.200
see you the whole the whole videos. I can, I

562
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.640
can do that, but I just don't. I just don't

563
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:08.559
have no way to send.

564
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.160
It because I can't break it down that well, you

565
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:10.599
know what I mean.

566
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.880
I've really tried to get somebody that there's there's a

567
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.160
guy that was gonna take the audio. And like I said,

568
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.440
I don't mind if anybody takes the audioce and and

569
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.480
I need to get it enhanced a little bit and

570
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:24.319
kind of uh secluded and and get those get those brows.

571
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:28.000
Uh that growl is I've heard those growls from about

572
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:29.039
three or four different people.

573
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:30.039
I don't know if you know. Do you know a

574
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:32.279
guy by the name of Michigan Aboriginal.

575
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.920
Yeah, yep, I've talked to him, James, James Lady.

576
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:40.279
He's got some of the same He's got some of

577
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:42.799
the same uh, the same boat with the same that

578
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:43.119
I have.

579
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.400
Oh wow, that's really interesting.

580
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:49.319
Yeah, yea, yeah, that's where that's where I found those uh,

581
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.160
those those growls at so from him and he's he's yeah.

582
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:53.319
Go ahead.

583
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:55.640
Do you still have access to his property? Then?

584
00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah, I can go through there.

585
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:01.160
It's no problem.

586
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.440
Okay, so you you moved to be closer to the hospital,

587
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.759
but you still have access to this property and got it.

588
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.839
Yeah, this property is not it's not my property. But

589
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.960
I can still get in there because I know I

590
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.680
know how to get through there. It's not illegal. I

591
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:18.119
just know how to get through there. Because all those

592
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.480
people up there, I was I was crying from the

593
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.359
rooftops while I was up there. It's like, hey, you know,

594
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.359
have you heard this or seen this? And they're like yeah, yeah, yeah.

595
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.839
So they didn't really have anybody to talk to about it.

596
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.839
So I was like, Okay, well, I'm just going to

597
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.480
keep my ears open. And the only reason I caught

598
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.920
that the growl and that that that commotion going on

599
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.559
at four o'clock in the morning was because once again

600
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.319
I heard these dogs next door and they were like,

601
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:42.640
they're great Pyrenees.

602
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.400
Doc, you'd mentioned that you have had some run ends

603
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.519
with what you believe are feral people. Is that anything

604
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.960
you can talk more about.

605
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.359
Yeah, a little bit. So there there's a there's a.

606
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.359
Uh, I guess, a coalition people who uh try they

607
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:07.319
they actually try uh uh go from from from place

608
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:09.039
to place to place. And I don't know they've got

609
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.960
they own these properties or what. But yeah, my first

610
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.039
time up there, I mean I'm talking about I'm out

611
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.039
in the woods and I'm going up through there with

612
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.680
my car and all of a sudden, in a mud

613
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:22.559
hole right in front of me, there's a guy laying

614
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.920
out in the middle of of of a trail, you know,

615
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.039
like a like a trail that you'd go to, like

616
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:28.880
if he's going down a river or something. You know.

617
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.079
This this guy was laying out in the middle of

618
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.119
the thing, and I almost ran over. As matter of fact,

619
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.000
the guy that I saw laying down in the mud

620
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.880
hole had just now gotten ran over by the by

621
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.480
the person that I had gotten the property from before

622
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:46.039
that she ran over it.

623
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:47.079
Oh my goodness.

624
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.599
But yeah, I mean it's just they're they're they're just

625
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:51.920
I mean, feral people. They they live out in the

626
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.839
they live out in the boonies. They try to keep

627
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.519
to themselves. I used to try to try to try

628
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.319
to help them out as much as I could, but

629
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:00.200
when they when they when you help them out, they

630
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.599
take as much, you know, as much as they give it.

631
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.079
So I tried out to I tried just all kinds

632
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.160
of stuff going on. Man, We've had We've I've had

633
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.200
guns pulled on me. I've had I've had people yell yelling,

634
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:18.359
yelling at downtown that somebody was somebody was killing somebody's

635
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.359
kid up in the middle of the of the woods.

636
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:21.559
And I'm like, you know, not me.

637
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.720
I did not move down here to this place to

638
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.240
to you know, to start a homestead, to put up

639
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:26.839
with things like this.

640
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:28.799
So yeah, man, those people were out there.

641
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.519
Matter of fact, when I first got up there, there

642
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.680
wasn't anybody like up there.

643
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:33.119
Up there.

644
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.279
There was this this one place over here to the

645
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.960
right that had dogs, and then everybody else kind of

646
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:39.279
started filling in after that.

647
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.720
Over the six months that whole.

648
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.319
Area over there, I had thirty three acres and uh

649
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:50.000
everybody else had ten, fifteen, you know, five whatever. But yeah, man,

650
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.279
it's just, uh there's a lot of things going on

651
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.319
out there in the in the woods, and I wish

652
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:54.640
I could.

653
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.200
I wish I could tell you exactly what it is.

654
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.680
But uh, the only the only thing that I've come

655
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.319
up with, man, Really, seriously, I mean, I've been I've

656
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:02.960
always been.

657
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:05.279
I'm the same guy as everybody else.

658
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.039
Man. I grew up and I was born in sixty six.

659
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.480
I grew up with with the Bigfoot. You know, the

660
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:13.720
legend of Bogie Creek. I told my wife about this

661
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.400
last night, and uh, you know, I watched it at

662
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:18.279
the movie theater.

663
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.599
And you know where I came from. In Indiana. Man,

664
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.240
we thought all that stuff was real up in the

665
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:23.200
Pacific Northwest.

666
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.279
Man, We're like, holy crap, they gotta they got a

667
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.160
big foot up there, and there's there's a there was

668
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.880
some uh, there was a thing going on back in

669
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.039
the seventies where they was doing some commune.

670
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:32.240
Relations to him.

671
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:34.559
We thought that was all you know, alien uh you know,

672
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.519
derived you know, and uh but uh yeah, I mean

673
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.640
it's just we grew up thinking, Okay, well those people

674
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.160
are going through all that stuff.

675
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.160
But we never thought about anything like that around where

676
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:45.640
we were at.

677
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.200
You know, it sounds like it's a whole different world

678
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.599
down there in ways I did not realize. If you

679
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.440
go down to the area, you definitely want to be

680
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:55.920
aware when you go out in the woods.

681
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.200
It sounds like, yeah, absolutely want to be with some

682
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.279
you want to be with somebody that knows the area.

683
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.079
I truly believe that there's a there's a there's a

684
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.119
wealth of there's a wealth of stuff going on down here.

685
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.119
It's just a matter of people coming in and seeing

686
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.279
I don't know, that's kind of funny.

687
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:12.680
I don't see.

688
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:14.799
I don't see a lot of stuff going on, uh

689
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.720
in the area. That's what I was, That's what I

690
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.119
was trying to do. I was trying to look online

691
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.839
to see, uh, you know, who was who was who

692
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.039
was doing a lot of content in the Missouri area,

693
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.680
And uh, really not anybody, hardly anybody at all except

694
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.119
for you know, some of your other guys like Miguel and.

695
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.359
And Uh, those guys.

696
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:37.440
I don't know. Do you do you know? Do you

697
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.759
know a guy by the name of do you know?

698
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:40.359
Have you ever heard of the Ryan Files?

699
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.039
I haven't. Actually he done.

700
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.519
He done a really good delve into the The Ozark

701
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.519
with a guy named Josh. Uh.

702
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:52.599
He's out of Kansas City.

703
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.440
He's a he's a folklorist, and he was telling uh

704
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.799
this Ryan's If you look up Ryan's Files, he's a

705
00:31:58.400 --> 00:31:59.920
he's also an Elvis in person.

706
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.759
Okay, cool, Yeah.

707
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.599
That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, I think you can appreciate it.

708
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.920
His name, Yeah Ryan, if you get a chance, look

709
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.079
at Ryan Files. I think I think he'd enjoy.

710
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.319
Listening to that that anyway.

711
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.519
But yeah, man, I mean there's just there's a lot

712
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.599
of things going on, and you're more than welcome to

713
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.799
come down here and and check out things. I mean,

714
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:21.839
I can take you over there.

715
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:26.039
I got a buddy over in uh Mountain Robe that's

716
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.359
got got some acreage over there that he's uh, he's

717
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:30.920
he's seeing some some.

718
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.839
Pretty wild stuff over there on his property.

719
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.240
And uh, he's got he's more I'm sure he's probably

720
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.599
more than welcome to have somebody come over and look

721
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.119
at look at him and what he's got going on

722
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.880
over there. But he's, uh, he's the one guy that

723
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.079
i've I've kind of leaned on because he's uh, he's

724
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.200
the guy that I reached out to to actually sketch

725
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.160
my my my big foot sighting.

726
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.799
But because I already have a uh, because.

727
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.599
I already have the the video and everything, you really

728
00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.000
can't see the face on the thing.

729
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.279
I didn't want him to do a sketch of something

730
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:02.720
and then put a face on it, and then it

731
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.079
wouldn't be you know, it wouldn't be real. So I

732
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:06.839
didn't want to do that because I didn't.

733
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.039
See the face, right.

734
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:12.119
I couldn't, I couldn't other than the silhouette. So I

735
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.599
didn't have him do that. But he was.

736
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.680
He was nice enough to to at least listen to

737
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.960
me and let me talk. And I appreciate that. Thanks

738
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.000
a lot, Chris, Chris Miller. I don't know if anybody,

739
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:24.599
I don't know if that's we can do that or not.

740
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.720
But you know, he's a good friend of mine. He's

741
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.599
out of he's a sketch guy.

742
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.480
So nice, nice, nice. Well we'll doc.

743
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.160
I hope we can figure out how to get you know,

744
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.119
these photos and videos. We'll work on it and you know,

745
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.920
give it, yeah, give your best shot. But uh, and

746
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.440
thank you for invite as well. I'll uh, maybe that'll

747
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.240
work out someday. But I appreciate you sharing what you

748
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.160
are experiencing down there in the Ozarks. I know it's

749
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.359
a wild place. There's a lot a lot of stuff

750
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:54.240
going on down there.

751
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.359
Yeah, definitely, definitely, And I appreciate you.

752
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.880
I appreciate you let me come on and uh and

753
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.319
at least tell my story to I'm going to get

754
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:04.599
off here.

755
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:06.920
Man, I forgot about this. I've about that.

756
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.800
I probably sounded like this, you know, so I really

757
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.840
I really appreciate that. You know, with me being retired military,

758
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:14.519
you think i'd be able to speak a little bit better.

759
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.039
But because I had my stroke, I can't speak as

760
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:18.800
as well.

761
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:20.960
You know, when I when I'm telling, when I'm telling

762
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.119
a story about what happened to me, you know, it's

763
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:24.519
kind of hard.

764
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.199
I don't like talking about myself that much.

765
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.519
Does that make sense, No, it totally does.

766
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.800
On the same way. But I think you did a

767
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.400
great job. And as we were saying before, you know,

768
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.360
it's it's something where you wanted to make sure that

769
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:41.119
this stuff was recorded and documented somewhere before. You know,

770
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.159
no one knows how much time they have left, right, So.

771
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.559
I want to make I want to make sure that

772
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.199
when I'm telling you a story about something that I

773
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:50.840
have proof to back it up. And I do have

774
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.280
proof to back it up. It's just it's just a

775
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.519
matter of getting it out there to you. And uh,

776
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:57.920
I wasn't even I was trying to put some stuff

777
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.559
out on my Facebook. I had another Facebook page that

778
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.559
I had a lot of stuff out onto. But it

779
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.400
just seems to me like when I put my stuff

780
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.119
out there that's real, that stuff that I went through

781
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.440
the AI just trumps it every time.

782
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.599
And I'm like, man, this is wild that nobody's getting

783
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:15.199
nobody getting nobody's getting my stuff. And I'm not even

784
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.880
worried about them seeing it.

785
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:18.480
I just want somebody to see what I got going

786
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.320
on because I really truly believe that the growls and

787
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.320
I've got are actually really really good, and the the

788
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.119
video is uh pretty uh pretty remarkable. Also when you

789
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.280
look at it, I've got, like I said, I got

790
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.840
fifty four seconds. I'm gonna try to I'm going to

791
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.840
try to send it through my email on my iPhone.

792
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.320
Because I've got I've got what you call it on

793
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:43.519
my other phone? Uh, what do you call it? Hotspot?

794
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.320
I've got a hotspot, I know on my iPhone.

795
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.400
Yeah, So yeah, I appreciate you, man, I uh, and

796
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.440
don't yeah, don't ask me what you what I think

797
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.480
it is because it's changed over time.

798
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.159
Absolutely every time.

799
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.760
Every time I think about Big Boot, I changed my

800
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.199
mind about different things because I hear different things from

801
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.360
different people that I think that I think they are telling,

802
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.800
you know, I think they're telling a uh, they're telling

803
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.800
the truth. And I think there's a spiritual I really

804
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:10.679
think there's a spiritual thing about it.

805
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.920
And I don't know what it is yet. But I'm

806
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.519
not going to go to the portal section yet.

807
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.280
But I think that it's I think it's a blood

808
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.960
blood and gets animal, but I think it has some

809
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.639
has some spiritual things going on. If you can't find

810
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.440
a body and you can't find anything other than footprints

811
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.719
or anything else that's left, and where.

812
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:31.800
Are they going?

813
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.480
Absolutely, you know, I mean I don't think.

814
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:36.800
I don't know if they're going into caves or anything

815
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.000
like that. I don't want to make assumptions because I'm

816
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.039
not an expert or anything. But I think that that

817
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.400
they're going somewhere else and I just don't know where

818
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:44.760
it's at.

819
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.320
It's it's the last great mystery, I think. So it's

820
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:53.400
it's some wild stuff, absolutely, But doc is a pleasure

821
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:54.119
chatting with you.

822
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.039
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

823
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.360
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

824
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.639
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

825
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.519
would love to get out in those woods and experience

826
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:11.079
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

827
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.679
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

828
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.639
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

829
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.920
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

830
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.519
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

831
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.239
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

832
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.760
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

833
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:42.000
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

834
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.159
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

835
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.960
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

836
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:52.159
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

837
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.239
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch.

838
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:55.599
Well, this year.

839
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.480
You can not only go to the festival, but you

840
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:07.239
can also sign up for a track deep in the

841
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.719
wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the

842
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.760
Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots

843
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.719
to sign up for this, and yes, this will also

844
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.119
be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series,

845
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.840
which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in

846
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.239
a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be

847
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:33.599
a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on

848
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:37.639
over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use

849
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850
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to get a two day pass for the price of

851
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a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving

852
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me that code so that you guys can can get

853
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:01.199
a little a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

854
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.840
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

855
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:08.320
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

856
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:10.639
to talk to so many people last year and the

857
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.840
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

858
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:16.719
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

859
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.320
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

860
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.599
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

861
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.360
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

862
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.239
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

863
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.519
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

864
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.519
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

865
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.840
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

866
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:44.519
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

867
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.719
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

868
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.119
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

869
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.480
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

870
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.840
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

871
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.000
or a trucker with guy contracts and you've had something

872
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.480
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

873
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.400
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

874
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.800
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

875
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.800
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

876
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.280
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

877
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.119
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

878
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:26.519
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

879
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.320
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

880
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.599
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

881
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.519
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

882
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:45.440
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

883
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:46.599
We've got the mic.

884
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:48.960
See you in the woods.

885
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:51.599
Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

886
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.639
Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the

887
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.719
world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that

888
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.440
the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line.

889
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.800
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897
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.079
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898
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899
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.559
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905
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906
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907
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.400
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908
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.119
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