May 21, 2026

The Trinity Alps Encounter That Made Me Stop Camping Alone

The Trinity Alps Encounter That Made Me Stop Camping Alone
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Season 1

Deep in California’s Trinity Alps, Justin and his girlfriend hiked miles into a remote canyon surrounded by towering mountains, waterfalls, and endless forest. As darkness settled over their isolated campsite near Canyon Creek, the entire atmosphere changed.


While gathering firewood, both witnesses suddenly froze after spotting massive glowing red eyes staring at them from the darkness ten feet above the ground. The eyes moved aggressively toward them in complete silence. No footsteps. No growls. No breaking branches. Just a presence watching from the trees.


Justin shares the full story of the encounter, the terrifying night that followed, and the strange details that still stay with him over a decade later. The episode also explores other reports connected to the Trinity Alps region, including frightening screams heard deep in the wilderness near the same trail system.


If you’ve ever wondered why Northern California remains one of the most active Bigfoot regions in America, this conversation will stay with you long after it ends.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome

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back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Justin tonight. Justin is individual I got connected to.

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He reached out after he heard an account on the

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show that he thought sounded similar to what he experienced.

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And he'll be talking about a experience when he was

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hiking out there in northern California in an area that

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has actually come up on the show. When I was

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looking at the sighting map on Big forat Society podcast

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dot com, this actually has this area has been talked

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about on the show before, So that's kind of interesting

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and we'll bring that up later on, but you know,

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welcome to the show. Justin how are you today?

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I'm good man. How you doing man?

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Oh, I'm doing good. Just hanging out, having a good

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night out here in the Midwest and no storms or anything.

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But is there anything else the listeners would want to

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know about you for context before we get into it, you.

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Know, And it's one thing I kind of brought up

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with you as well, but like, you know, just to

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like outline this, I'm not one hundred percent sure what

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I saw was like an ape or bigfoot, but I

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saw something that I heard a story and it almost

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gave me the chills, like on Jeremy on this channel,

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and figured I call in because it sounded pretty similar.

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And yeah, and this was about thirteen years ago, so

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I'm a little foggy. So I did take notes and

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have some stuff written down to kind of help me

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just kind of like remember a couple things. So if

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you see me looking over I'm just looking at my

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notes over there.

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Absolutely, So would you be able to share a bit

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about the area that you were in? I know you were.

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You were nice enough to actually provide the location to

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me so I could look it up. On the map.

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But you know, what are some things about what you

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remember about the area? Why were you there? Things like that.

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Yeah, So I actually I was going to school in Arcada, California.

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I don't know if you're familiar with northern California, but

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Arcada is like it's basically cal State, and it's right

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on the coast, so it's very close to the ocean,

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and it's like beautiful. It's like north of San Francisco.

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So in Arcada, I was going to school there. This

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is about thirteen years ago, so I'm thirty eight years

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old now and i was in my mid twenties, you know,

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back then, and going to school in Arcada. It's essentially

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like in the Redwoods. So if you see pictures of

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the really really really big redwood trees, those are all

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surrounding the school. So when you're going to classes and

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just walking around the area, like even around the town,

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the whole town of Arcada is just surrounded by woods,

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pretty isolated and for the most part, just going to school.

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And I'd never been to northern California and I got

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accepted at cal State, and I'm from Pittsburgh, an East

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coast and before that i'd lived in southern California, but

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nothing ever in like the northwest.

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Okay, gotcha. Very interesting and looking at the map, you

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actually would have had to probably travel through Willow Creek

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to get to this area where you're at.

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Oh yeah, yep, yep a bunch of times.

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Which is which is wild? I mean you probably took

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what two ninety nine over through Creek and then over

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to the Trinity area. Oh yeah, yep, gotcha. So so

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let's let's focus in on on that exact day that

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you were there. So you were out hiking in the woods,

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and there was another individual there with you, correct, Yeah.

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So I was. I was going to school, and as

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a newcomer to northern California, the outdoors are pretty intimidating,

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and I'd been wanting to, like, like, I've been like

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an outdoor person. I was raised, like my uncles were

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farmers and just kind of like always like fishing and

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camping and hiking and stuff. But I wasn't like ever

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a hardcore hiker or camper, you know, I'd not I'd

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done like a couple multi day hikes, but nothing crazy.

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So up to this point, I was kind of a novice,

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but like wanting to explore and I had met a girl.

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We ended up dating for a while and she was

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really cool and she actually like she was a trippy

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per sit in herself. She would go up to the

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woods and talk to fairies and like up until high school,

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she would go out and sit there and that was

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like beautiful there. So like I wouldn't be surprised if

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something like magical, you know, if there are fairies, it

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would probably be you know, like in those woods. But anyways,

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like so she when I met her, which was in

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college and she was going to school in her twenties,

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she had her whole back was a fairy. So she

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had a fairy like tattoo, just like a giant fairy.

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And she was a very fearless. The reason I bring

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up these details because it's kind of important because she

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was a very like fearless outdoors person. She would she

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when I met her, she would camp buy herself like

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a girl like she would go she had a Honda

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CRV and she would just go out into the national

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force and just she was like a solo type of person.

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She would go camp by herself. She would go swim

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by herself, like never afraid of bears, never afraid of

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like anything really like pretty fear, you know, jump off

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like waterfalls, no problem. And so when she met me,

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she kind of showed me the and decided to take me.

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If you had imagine, Arcada's right on the right on

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the water. And then she she was like, oh, do

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you want to check this really cool camping spot out,

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which was I want to say, like a couple hours

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directly east of Arcada. It's almost like a straight line.

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If you were able to fly there, it definitely would

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be a straight line, but the road's a bit curvy.

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But yeah, I would say easy, a few hours to

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get over there. What's the what was the trip like

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from to ninety nine? And then it looks like from

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the pen you gave me you had to go up

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into the hills quite a bit.

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Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest, I didn't know the

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roads and she was driving so because she knew everything

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and I don't even this was back like I didn't

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at this point. I didn't have a cell phone, I

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didn't have the internet out of my house. I would

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just like rent movies and watch movies. I was like

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super hippy. I would like so like I don't even

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think she had a cell phone. Maybe we did, but

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it was kind of like she knew where the spot

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was by memory and and so you know, you're driving

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all these rhinny wandy roads and then eventually you get

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to kind of more like where you need four wheel

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drive because which kind of weeds a lot of people

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out because the roads get super bumpy and if you

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have a low car, you just bought them out and

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then somebody has to pull you and there's like nobody know,

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there's no like toe guys out there, so you're pretty

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much just stuck until like a truck shows up and

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that that's out to the environment and the road is

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just beautiful, super beautiful. Yeah, it's probably one of the

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most beautiful, Like I've been all over the country and

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it's one of the most surreal cool areas I've ever

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been to.

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Yeah, it's wild because you actually had to travel past

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a few campgrounds to get to that pen. It looks like, yeah,

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so were you were you like off the trail or

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or you know, just kind of doing your own thing camping.

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We know, so we actually we did follow a trail,

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like it started with a trail sign, so it's a

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you know, public trail, well like a well, you know,

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established parking lot with a you know, nice trail sign

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with like a description and pictures, and which is kind

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of funny because in the pictures it shows like people

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walking and then cougar's jumping on them from the cliffs

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in the pictures, and it's like, oh, if you see

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a cougar, you know they will jump on you from behind.

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So I was like, oh, that's cool. So that was

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like our intro. But you know, I wasn't scared at all,

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and she was just fearless. So let's go. And we

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have my dog too, and the thought of a big foot,

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a bear or cougar, we were like cool, like that'd

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be awesome if we saw something, and we were so

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the way that the trails are set up there, you

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can't you're legally not allowed to camp anywhere you want.

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You have to camp at designated sites, and I figure

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what they're called. I think they're called like native sites

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or something. There's an for them, but there are basically

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sites that just have a fire circle, and you have

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to find a fire circle that's pre built by the

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Forest Service people. So we're essentially there's a if you

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imagine a valley and then on the right side of

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the valley, you're kind of walking into this valley, and

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the deeper you get along that valley, there's a river

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cutting through it, and along the edge of that river

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are those circles. And so as you get deeper and

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deeper and deeper, you kind of skip more and more

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prominent campsites. And as you get to the there's actually

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kind of an end to this one, and at that

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end is the campsite where I saw what I saw.

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Are you okay sharing the name of the area that

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you're at, okay?

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Yeah? Absolutely?

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Yeah. It is Canyon Creek, right.

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Yeah, yeah, Canyon Creek.

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Yeah, gotcha. And so that's interesting. So that campsite being

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kind of in that valley, that puts you in an

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interesting area where you know, something could be up there

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watching your you guys are in there and not able

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to get away pretty quick potentially, But yeah, feel free

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to to kind of walk us through what you guys

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experienced that day.

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Yeah. Yeah, So you know, I told you about her

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a little bit. And if you imagine, we show up

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to this parking lot and she's driving in a red

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CRV and I'm with her and my dog and I

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had this super cool dog then that was like my

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spirit animal dog, kind of like a little Australian Shepherd

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type of mix, like maybe like a forty pound dog.

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Real rambunctious and like adventurous, and he would be awf

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leash a lot, so he would kind of just follow

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me everywhere. We'd go camping and stuff all the time,

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and he's like a swimmer, so he was like really

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fun to go camping. And yeah. Anyways, yeah, so we

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all went. We kind of started if you would imagine,

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you know, we're driving for like an hour or so,

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and then we drive you know, way out to this

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canyon creek place. You know, we don't have GPS or anything.

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So I'm going like, man, this is super cool with

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this cool girl, Like we're finding this coold spot and

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then she, you know, she knows where it's at. So

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for me, it's like the most fun adventure.

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You know.

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They're just like kind of tagging along and she's like, oh, yeah,

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you got to you know, you got to follow me

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the show, like, trust me, it's worth it. It takes a

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couple of days, but at the end there's these like

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amazing waterfalls and nobody's there and blah blah blah, and

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I'm like, that sounds awesome, so, you know, and it

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was the way they had this thing lined up. I

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think it was a I think I'd written it down

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or told you maybe, but it was I do. I

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do have some notes over here, but it was whatever

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I want to say. It was eleven miles or something,

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but you had to hike in, you know, so maybe

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we hike in five miles and then camp and then

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the next day we're able to hike. Essentially, the last

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campsite is at the base of the waterfalls, so if

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you camp there, then you can have the whole next

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day just to camp through the waterfalls and kind of

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like play on the waterfalls where there's not camp sites

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on the waterfalls so they have all that quarantine. And

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that was our goal, was like to make it to

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that last campsite pretty much trail wise, pretty easy hiking.

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Yeah, gotcha. What was the year for this again?

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This was I guess made about thirteen years ago.

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Oh, that's right, so it would have been like what

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twenty thirteen.

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Yeah, maybe something like that.

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Yeah, okay, gotcha. And so when you're out in this area,

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did you see many other people or was it just

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you guys out there?

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There were like, offhand, I remember seeing maybe one or

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two other couples. I think we passed one, and on

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our way leaving we saw one other couple. So maybe

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like I would say, four people max, yeah, the whole

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three days.

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Yeah, okay, So then you so you first, I would imagine,

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make set up camp in that that initial campsite.

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Yeah. Well, well the story kind of gets interesting. So

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the first campsite, we were getting kind of tired or

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it was getting darker. So we see a fire, we

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see a fire ring coming up, and we say, oh, perfect,

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like a fire ring, let's get some firewood. And back

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then you could kind of it was like a lot

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of drywood, so stuff was scattered. We didn't have like

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stuff to chop it down, so you could just go

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and pick up like enough for the night. And I

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had picked up like a nice little bundle to get started,

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and we're kind of excited, and she's falling behind me

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and we're like, yeah, this is gonna be great. And

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I'm like looking at her and I'm holding a stack

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of firewood and I go like this to drop it

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in the fire pit, and I look and right staring

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right at me is a rattle stake. Oh my good

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tail is going like that coil just staring right at me.

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And I'm holding this wood and I just go, uh

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and I like bring the wood back. We tr around

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and I'd just go like, let's go, and we just

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like headed out. We both met, dropped the firewood, and

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we like ran out. They were like, oh my gosh.

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So we're like freaked out immediately, you know, We're like,

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holy crap, like I almost got if I think if

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I had got bit that point, most likely I would

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have died, yeah, because you would have had to get

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life lighted to probably like Seattle or Portland or something,

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and the chances of that happening in time, like we

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had no phones, nobody knew we were there.

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Yeah, no no GPS beacons, no GP Yeah, yeah, you

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would have been done, so dude.

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Yeah yeah. But like you know, so we're like we

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were kind of freaked out. And then which ended up

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at the us at going to the furthest like further

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into the last campsite, which is the one where I

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spotted what I saw. Yeah, so that was that was

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pretty much one of the last campsites on that edge.

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So there was a river next to it and a firing,

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and then to the right of that was like a

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canyon mountain to the extent that we were kind of

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stuck between the river and the mountain at that campsite.

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Yeah, the GPS location that you gave me is that

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is that the campsite that you were hiking into by

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the fall.

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Then yeah, that's I think the actual cordiness is where

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I believe that the creature or whatever that was was

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got it? So I saw that from maybe like maybe

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twenty yards away or something like that, I'll say it

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was fairly close.

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Yeah, gotcha. So to make sure we get the whole story,

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So you have the issue with the rattlesnake, and then

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you decide to continue on into this this goal campsite

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that's by the waterfall. Does anything happen on the way

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into that campsite?

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No? Going in there. It's almost like we were joking

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about the rattlesnink and we're kind of like like we

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were kind of like our adrenaline was going, but we

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were still like all right, maybe like play it safe,

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but still having like a bunch of fun, you know,

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So we weren't we weren't thinking of danger or anything

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like that going the next campsite or like you know,

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that was rare and blah blah blah. And at that

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point we just started kind of like it's getting closer

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and closer to like dark dark, and we had like

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I can't remember we had a headlamp or not, but

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it was pretty dim and we were kind of just

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grabbing wood as the light was getting like really dark. Yet.

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Wow, So that alone puts you into a very So

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you're getting you're getting that on the way there in

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the dark, and so so then you had to set

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up your camp in the dark as well.

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Yeah. Yeah, And I believe we set up we just

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had a tent. We were like minimalists, so we I

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want to say, set up the tent super fast and

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maybe had I think I think we had a we

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had a fire going at the point in the next

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fi pit and my dog's running around and we have

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a tent set up and we're picking up farwood for

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the rest of the night.

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Gotcha, So how was your dog reacting through all of this?

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Totally chill? Okay, Yeah, it was a really fun day.

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We had seen a I don't know if you're familiar

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with a like the animal Pine Martin. We'd seen one

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of those earlier and it was super cool and it

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was just like a great day. Yeah, so everybody was

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having fun. He was He's having a blast. There's water

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to jump in, so he's yeah, he's stoked. Yeah.

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So was there a point when you started to realize

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then that that something was off or something wasn't right?

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You know, that's interesting you say that it's I thought

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about this a lot, and because i'd heard a lot

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of your other stories and people like getting a weird

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feeling or maybe feeling sick, I don't remember anything like that.

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I felt like it was a really good time and

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it was one of those things where time was going

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really quick. So the whole experience was kind of surreal

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for me because I'm out there, so I'm kind of

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like riding a natural high already being out there, and

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you know, I'm chatting with this girl who, like I

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kind of recently met, so you know, we're just like

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chatting and have fun. And so at this point, time

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is just kind of moving really fast, and I would

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say it's getting a lot darker, way quicker than I

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would imagine, if anything weird At that point, you'd imagine

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me and her were I could probably see maybe our

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tent is about fifty yards away or one hundred yards

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or something, with a little fire going, and then we're

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out like picking up firewood closer to the mountain side

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rather than the creek side. At this point, it's pretty.

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It's like almost dark dark, like pitch black yere.

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It is crazy. How so on X has a feature

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where you can look at it and three and literally

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you are you're hiking into a valley that is surrounded

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by huge mountains and you're in the middle and then

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there's waterfalls. It's it's beautiful.

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It's one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, if something's going to live by itself,

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that would be a perfect area because it would not

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have to worry about anything messing with it in there.

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Yeah yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

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All right, so so then what would you say that

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you're you're setting up the the setting up the tent,

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setting up the campsite. What would you say the the

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next thing in your story would be.

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Yeah, and and like, honestly, this is where there's not

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much more after this, but we're obviously it gets interesting

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and you know it pertains the big Foot and what

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I saw I'm not sure exactly, but do you imagine

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we're gray mood? Everybody's chilling, There's there's no to be scared.

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We weren't like even though there were these signs of mountainlines,

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we were like whatever, We're just like having tons of fun.

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And and I I'm like picking up firewood and I

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like look up at my girlfriend. I just see her

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face like almost like pale white like that, and I

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at this point, I've never like up into then and

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since then, I've never seen this girl scared. I've never

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been like, oh, why don't you jump off that one

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hundred foot waterfall? And Her'll be like, oh, I'm kind

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of scared. Like never, like she would almost be like cool,

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like let's do it type of person. And her face

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was like just like frozen. And she went and like

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made this noise, like she almost made like a grunting noise,

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like I never heard her make it before, like ooh,

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like and then she drops her firewood and she was

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like oh and like she was like speechless almost and

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I was like what what what? And I like look

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and like I even write like right now telling you this,

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I get the chills bringing bout. But I just see,

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like I want to say, ten to twenty yards, not

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very far enough, like enough distance to if it was

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the core could easily make that distance if it was.

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But you know, I'm six foot tall, and you imagine

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it's kind of at an angle like this. So if

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I would imagine, I don't know if it was in

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a tree, behind a tree, next to the tree, but

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the eyes were I would imagine at least eight feet tall,

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maybe eight to ten feet something along that about twenty

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yards you imagine this angle and was kind of looking

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down at me and I and I see these eyes. Man.

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And I've been in the I've been in tons of

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woods all over the Redwoods. I lived in Bend, Oregon

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for a long time. Like in the National Forest, I've

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driven all across the country, but Idaho, all over the

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I live in Pittsburgh now, so like the Alleghany National Forest,

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the coast Florida, like all I have never and I've

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seen like weird eyes, bears, you know, pretty much most

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animals that people would know of been, including some rare runs.

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But I'll just well, I've never seen anything close to

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these eyes. And that's one of the reasons why I

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wanted to call you, and I thought the story was

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cool because at the time I wasn't thinking, oh, this

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is Bigfoot or anything, you know, I just thought like,

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what the heck. But to describe the eyes, sorry to

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get off topic, but these so I like, you know,

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she just has his pale face and I look and

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these eyes were like I would say, like I don't know,

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that big, like like a like the size of like

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a almost like bigger than silver dollars. And they're like

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the weird. They were like red, like fiery red with

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orange like glistening, almost like how people talk about eyeshine

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or something. They were like it looks like there was

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like a light in them, almost like a like we

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make like a fake Halloween mask and there's like a

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light in the eyes. But they were like huge and

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red with like and and the and the way they

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moved in this like really crazy way that looked like

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it was like aggressive or was going to attack us.

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And I thought like, oh my god, like this thing

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is definitely going to attack us. And and we both

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just started yelling at this like screaming at what ever

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it was, and like I threw my I mean, we

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had been picking on a firework for a while, so

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like that was kind of valuable. And I just like

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we threw all of our firewood at it, and both

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of us just starts screw because like and the reason

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we're yelling too, because we're thinking, okay, if this is,

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if this is like a big animal or like a cougar,

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if we turn around, it's gonna jump on our backs.

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So we have we have to make like a presence.

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So we're like yelling at this. These eyes are just

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staring at me, and I'm just like, we're yelling, backing up.

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And then we got to a point where like it

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was getting a little it didn't like approach and getting

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a little bit further away, and we just looked at

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each other, just ran and we sprinted as fast as

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we could. And our dogs for some reason, which is

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weird actually, like now they think about it, it's super weird.

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With my dog, who reacts to everything, did not chase this,

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did not bark at it, didn't go near it, And

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that's super like this. He would chase deer, everything, chase chipmunks, lizards,

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did not go I don't even remember him around us,

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Like you must have been I don't know, but we

462
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:08.440
wound up back at camp totally freaking out and like

463
00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:10.440
even telling you now, like my drones and like our

464
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.759
drones going and we had nothing. We had like a

465
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.880
pocket knife, and so I stayed up all night. I

466
00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.079
think she ended up passing out, but I set up

467
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:20.720
all night just like holding a stick until the sun

468
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:24.599
came up. And uh and yeah, that whole And I

469
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:26.599
remember like finally the sun came up and we were

470
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:28.640
so tired and we were like, well, let's get out

471
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.240
of here. Then the next day, we like we hiked

472
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.319
up to the waterfalls, which were beautiful. I think we

473
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.839
it was sunny, so we felt safe and we passed

474
00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:37.680
out for a little bit or I don't even know

475
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.480
if we did fall asleep. And then and then that

476
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:41.119
we were going to camp another day, and we were

477
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.279
like like absolutely absolutely. We we hiked all the way

478
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:47.319
all the way home, yeah, which was really a two

479
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.640
day hike, but we were like no.

480
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.480
No, oh, that's that's pretty intense. Uh.

481
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:54.880
It freaked me out.

482
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:59.559
Yeah, how far apart would you estimate that the eyes

483
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:00.599
were what you saw?

484
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:06.240
I would say, let's see maybe something like that, maybe

485
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:12.880
like actually a roll right here, they're probably literally maybe

486
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:14.480
like nine inches apart.

487
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.200
Oh my goodness, it's it's massive and.

488
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.240
Yeah, about I would say bigger than a silver dollar.

489
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.440
And eight feet up and probably.

490
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.200
About eight feet eight to ten. Yeah, yeah, it was.

491
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.119
It was so dark where it was. I couldn't tell

492
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.200
if it was like hiding behind a tree or in

493
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.480
a tree, or if a tree was around it, I

494
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:38.279
could I couldn't tell.

495
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.440
Maybe I missed this, but you said it felt like

496
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.599
it was like there was something aggressive or what was

497
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.160
it about the eyes that that made you feel that

498
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.400
it was about to do something aggressive or yeah?

499
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.400
You know that that's what was really weird about it. It

500
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.839
made it made a movement like a I don't know,

501
00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:03.240
you almost like when like how people do it, like

502
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.160
a like a fighter or something. They do that like

503
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.920
they lunched for like that. Yeah, it did like that

504
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.240
at us. And that's when we went like, holy crop,

505
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:13.400
like this thing is a great because we're talking people too,

506
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:14.960
Like if it was a bear or something, we'd be like,

507
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.799
oh that was so cool. But this we were like

508
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.279
that thing was trying to kill us, like or like

509
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.799
intimidate us or something. And it made no noise, completely silent.

510
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:27.880
There was zero zero noise on a branch break nothing.

511
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:32.319
Yeah, So for the people that are listening in a way,

512
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:37.519
you saw the eyes kind of dark towards you. Yeah,

513
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:40.279
got it, Okay, very interesting.

514
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.519
It didn't turn. It's like she had seen it before

515
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.200
and was like, oh my gosh. And when I looked

516
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.480
at it, it was looking straight at me, the eyes

517
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.079
and then it did that like like it was gonna lune.

518
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:57.400
Yeah yeah, oh yeah. For example, and the one thing

519
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.200
because I kept thinking that night and you know, when

520
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.359
if like if you if you see deer eyes or

521
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.319
a lot of animals at night, you'll see one eye

522
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:05.319
and a lot of times, you know, because it's like

523
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:06.880
looking this way, so you'll see one eye, or it'll

524
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.880
be blue. A lot of cougar eyes, for instance, are

525
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.319
like blue or they might be a you know, reddish

526
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:15.680
orange or something like that. And cougars kind of move

527
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.039
in a specific fashion and usually if you see a cougar.

528
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:20.680
Because that was like the closest thing, I was like, okay,

529
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.039
maybe it was like a huge adult cougar, and which

530
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.039
will be the closest thing. But I must have looked

531
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.480
up every video of cougar eyes. I didn't see. There's

532
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.400
not one on the internet that that was, and trying

533
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.920
to think of like any other predator animal. I definitely

534
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.599
wasn't a bear. Definitely, if it was a cougar, it

535
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:43.960
would be super rare for to just be staring at

536
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.599
us that close, it would be very weird. It'd usually

537
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.440
be a lot further away up like in the mountains,

538
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.880
looking at us from up there. Yeah.

539
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.039
Now, the next day, when you were hiking up to

540
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.440
the falls, did you notice anything out of the ordinary,

541
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:06.039
any that was weird or even trees or or things

542
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:07.160
that seemed out of place.

543
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.960
I didn't. I was really tired at that point and

544
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:14.839
just kind of trying to get to the top of

545
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.799
the waterfall. It was really beautiful, so I was a

546
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.519
little bit overwhelmed by just like how it was one

547
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.559
of those hikes for every ten feet you're just like,

548
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.160
oh my gosh. And that was really it was really special.

549
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.039
But nothing weird as far as vibes. The only other

550
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.079
weird thing that happened was on the way back, We're

551
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.440
walking on the trail and it was like my girlfriend

552
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.759
and then me, or my girlfriend and my dog and

553
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.920
then me, and like I said, you're hiking along the edge.

554
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.680
Sometimes on the edge of the mountain side, so you're

555
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.279
kind of you're walking straight, but that there's like a

556
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.240
cliff on your left and then a cliff below you

557
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:51.799
on your right, so you're just like in a little

558
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:56.119
path and we're walking in A rattlesnake just came flying

559
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.960
off the mountain and flew right in between my dogs,

560
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.279
like right in between us. Threw my dog's legs, and

561
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.599
my dog like jumped off the cliff to go for

562
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:07.759
the rattlesnake, and I like grabbed my dog last second.

563
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.160
But that was the last like crazy thing that happened.

564
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:12.880
But after that we were kind of like done with

565
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:14.440
the whole place. You know, We're like we almost got

566
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.359
a bit twice for I was naggs. I don't know

567
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:17.119
what we saw.

568
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.359
Yeah, I would, I would be done too that. No,

569
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.119
no Trinity Alps wilderness for me. If you're going to

570
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.880
have rattlesnakes lunging off of rock faces at people, that

571
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:36.559
is intense, dude. Oh my goodness. An interesting I wanted

572
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.519
to bring up and I can't remember. Do you remember

573
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.599
if it was a certain story or a certain account

574
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.039
that you had heard that made you contact.

575
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.880
You know? What I was thinking about that too, And

576
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.240
I can't remember her exact name or the one where

577
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.200
the story was very similar, but I will say that

578
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.240
one of my favorite accounts and what got me to

579
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.279
call in was a guy and I think you had

580
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.319
said it was one of your favorites. Two. There's a

581
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.119
guy Randy, an older gentleman who who had gone out

582
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.240
like in the sevenies. He's been hunting bigfoot since like

583
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.759
the seventies. He's just the coldest. I'm talking about like

584
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.319
going around in northern California. I think he started in

585
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.079
southern California and worked his way up too, and and

586
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.000
then and just like hunting Bigfoot. And then in his story,

587
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.079
like he he eventually comes to peace with Bigfoot and

588
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.000
like stops hunting it and he's just he just like

589
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.400
hangs out with it, and like he's like bringing a

590
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.440
gifts and stuff. Well, it's like he's like the coolest guy.

591
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:29.480
Yeah, that's that's.

592
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:32.400
It.

593
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:37.799
May also be Ronnie from Oakridge. Yeah, I think that's

594
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.799
that might be him, but I wanted to bring And

595
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.799
I don't know if you've seen this one, but so

596
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:51.759
it's interesting, same area. But let me look at the

597
00:30:51.799 --> 00:31:00.279
three D again. There we go three D that this

598
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:09.519
is closer to the Canyon Creek trailhead and this is

599
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:15.839
episode nine thirteen. The person I talked to they had

600
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.799
a lot of things that happened all around California and Oregon,

601
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:23.359
but in this part of the country, in Canyon Creek,

602
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.720
they had experienced what they said are terrifying screams in

603
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.720
the middle of the night while camping solo at a

604
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.440
remote campground. The witness had felt the sound in his

605
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.519
chest and feared for his safety. And that was around

606
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.240
somewhere between twenty twelve to twenty fourteen, which is interesting.

607
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.759
That puts it very close to the same region of time.

608
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:54.240
Yeah, I'll tell you up to For anybody who hasn't

609
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.839
been there, or if you haven't been to Oregon or

610
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.599
that area of the trade Alves, I highly recommend going out.

611
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.440
It is. It is dangerous, but it is it's so

612
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.200
wild and beautiful. I've just never there's something really special

613
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:15.839
about that place. It's really cool. Yeah.

614
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.680
So then you know, after you you get back from

615
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.559
this hike, it's it's a bit traumatic. I mean, you've

616
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.440
had two close encounters with rattlesnakes and then whatever it

617
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.000
is that you saw that was eight feet tall and

618
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.319
huge red eyes. How did that affect you after that?

619
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.920
Man, I'll tell you, at the time, I thought it

620
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.319
was great. Like at that time, I thought it was

621
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.160
like I was still I was freaked out by it.

622
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.319
I'll say that, like I've seen before this, I'd seen

623
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.000
some other paranormal things in my life, like been in

624
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.880
some weird situations where I'm not like I wasn't grown

625
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.440
up as a paranormal person or but like I always

626
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.759
kind of made fun of a ghost eyes and big

627
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.880
foot people as like a kid, but I had experiences

628
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.839
where even I was I'm like, I'll be honest, like

629
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.839
I didn't normally believe that stuff, but after my experiences,

630
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.319
there's something out there. And like, that's what I have

631
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:14.640
to say about a lot of this bigfoot stuff. I

632
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.400
think there's a lot of stuff that's overlapping. For me,

633
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.039
it wasn't scary, but now looking back on it, I

634
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.039
think it's super interesting. Because hearing your stories too, like

635
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.240
or the stories from a lot of the people that

636
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.680
call in. You know, people can say maybe this person

637
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.640
is lying, or you know, this person saw a bearer

638
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.759
or something else. But there's super interesting stories that I

639
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.119
don't think that people are lying, and I think they

640
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.920
did see something and whether or not you know, it's

641
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.400
an ape or this or that, Like I think there

642
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:46.200
I think two things can be true at once. Like

643
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.839
I think there could be like a spiritual type of

644
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.960
beast or bigfoot out there, and there also could be

645
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.880
monkeys that escaped or you know of humans that evolved

646
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.799
that didn't quite make it into society. I think for me,

647
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.039
I believe that all of those things are true in

648
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.599
some way or another. And I think what's most interesting

649
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.519
is that something with the eyes. It's the stories that

650
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.199
connect the Bigfoot. When I start to hear the stories

651
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.840
from you, I start to hear these little connections like

652
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.639
these eyes and the sound and the feeling and like

653
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.039
you know, the people that go from fearing it to

654
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.320
liking it and like it's super interesting and I'm like,

655
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:26.760
what is that? And yeah, So so for the for me,

656
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.159
it's fun. If I was by myself in the woods

657
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.000
right now, would I be scared? To you? Has that

658
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:38.719
influenced that? For sure? I don't go camping alone.

659
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:43.719
Right exactly? I totally get that. You mentioned that. Now

660
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.559
you are over in the Pittsburgh area, Yeah, and so

661
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.880
you are right in the middle of a lot of

662
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:56.440
weird stuff. You've got southwest Pennsylvania, the Chestnut Ridge, I

663
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:02.159
mean Laurel Laurel high Lands lower Ridges out there, but

664
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.760
then you've also got the Alligating National Forest. Do you

665
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.119
ever go out in any of those areas?

666
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:11.519
I do. I actually plan, especially this summer, to really

667
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:15.159
go out because your story's kind of inspired me to

668
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.159
go to try to find something. So I looked at

669
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.199
the maps and started getting more into it, and my

670
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.199
uncles are into it now and we're gonna go. I

671
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.800
do real estate for a living, which definitely helps as well,

672
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.039
So I've been all over the city and a bunch

673
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:32.559
of weird abandoned buildings and houses and all over. I

674
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:34.679
don't know if people are familiar with the stories from

675
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:39.320
eastern Ohio, but there's a lot and my uncle lives

676
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:41.360
in Ohio and we planned on going kind of out

677
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:45.280
that area. There's actually a story from your show that

678
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:48.039
inspired us. A guy called in who he also was

679
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.960
hunting bigfoot in eastern Ohio and I can't remember the name,

680
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.320
but it's something called like Hell's It's like Hell's Cannon

681
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.559
or something like. That's a cool name. And we're planning

682
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.000
on going out there to explore and then my buddy,

683
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.920
We're going to go to the Alligating National Forest this

684
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.159
summer and do something like searching for something. You know.

685
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:11.880
Yeah, I mean that would that would be fantastic. If

686
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.400
I was in your shoes, I would definitely be hitting

687
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:18.320
up the Alligating National Forest. I think there's a bigfoot

688
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:23.360
festival that's out there that's coming up soon too, maybe

689
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:28.920
around Marionville, I'm not sure, but man, any of those

690
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.079
like campgrounds that are in the center of the forest.

691
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.960
I've heard some some wild wild stuff. I've heard, you know,

692
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:43.760
people hearing whoops, people getting their houses slapped around the

693
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:49.559
forest for people. Talked to Amy Boo once and her

694
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:55.199
group had some really intense infrasound experiences out there where

695
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:56.519
they thought that they were going to have to go

696
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.719
to the hospital, like it was almost a cardiac issue.

697
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.199
Really really wild stuff. So it's a thing, you know, Uh,

698
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.719
definitely have some kind of device where you can reach

699
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.599
out if you need to. I would say, but you

700
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.360
know a lot of people think Pennsylvania like, oh, that

701
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.760
can't be too bad, but man, there's parts of Pennsylvania

702
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:22.599
where it's it's wild as all get out. So yeah, yeah,

703
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.320
but I would say, you know, if you do experience something,

704
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:31.000
I would love to hear about it. Yeah, it sounds

705
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:36.920
very very interesting. Also, yeah, Laurel Ridge State Park. I

706
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.159
think is there are so many pins on my map

707
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.199
from around the area where you're at. I mean you

708
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.559
could you could literally spend a few years just like

709
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.360
visiting different pin areas on just the podcast map. And

710
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.559
that's like if you look into the Big for Mapping project,

711
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.119
is like there's the rest of your life. It's crazy.

712
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:58.039
But that.

713
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.320
Wasn't sure which one you had done versus the like

714
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.599
official Bigfoot map versus.

715
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:11.960
Yeah, yeah, so much. Mine is you can only get

716
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.840
to it if you go to Big for Society podcast

717
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.159
dot com and there's like I want to say, there's

718
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.760
over I've put over a thousand pins on it so

719
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.920
far just from the show, So Pennsylvania's got a ton.

720
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.480
But you're in a really cool area being in Pittsburgh,

721
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.840
and I mean you're close to northeast Ohio and all

722
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.679
that too. But man, thank you so much for coming

723
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:41.400
on on the show, justin for sharing your experience. And

724
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.599
it's just it's one of those things, you know, because

725
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:48.159
what's going to happen is I'm sure, there'll be another

726
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.360
person out there that will hear you talking about Canyan

727
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.000
Creek and being like, I've been in that area, this

728
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:56.639
is what happened to me. And then I'm going to

729
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.760
get like five emails and that is exactly how this show.

730
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.920
How the show runs. I'm not even kidding. It's wild,

731
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:03.679
wild stuff.

732
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:08.559
But that's so cool, Ivy, what you do. It's very cool.

733
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.400
It's it is very cool. I can cut this out

734
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.599
if needed, but just in case it leads to something,

735
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.400
someone is going to ask in the comments, what happened

736
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:26.519
to to the girl that talks to fairies? Do you know,

737
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:28.280
oh that you used to date?

738
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.119
Oh yeah, like where is she now?

739
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:35.440
Or yeah? Or is she like what she affected and

740
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:38.159
got into bigfoot stuff or anything like that.

741
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.559
Oh you know what, we never had a discussion of

742
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.880
whether or not like we thought it was bigfoot, oh wow,

743
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.159
because at this time we weren't thinking. We weren't thinking

744
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.000
about bigfoot. It wasn't really something we talked about. We

745
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.880
were thinking it was some sort of big predator animal

746
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.920
or you know, we were very like, you know, you know,

747
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.559
I believe in all sorts of stuff, Like I don't

748
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.199
know if like aliens are or something. So both of

749
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:03.840
you know, our minds are just going like, I don't know,

750
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.719
was it an alien? So we're kind of just like

751
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.800
poking fun at it, not really thinking sure, oh blah

752
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:11.480
blah blah. And then you know, we kind of just

753
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:16.039
moved on from it because honestly, we went hiking so

754
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.280
many times after that, never never had any experience like that.

755
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.239
So for us it was just like, man, that was weird.

756
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.079
Kind of just move on. And you know she to

757
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.840
this day she lives in Washington and goes hiking by

758
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.159
herself all the time. Wow.

759
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:39.280
Yeah, yeah, that's wild. That's that is one guts the individual. Good. Yeah,

760
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:40.239
I would not do it.

761
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.400
It's more gutsy than me. Man.

762
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:45.320
Yeah, absolutely more power to her. But justin thank you

763
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.719
so much for coming on the show. As I said,

764
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.679
you know, if you ever run into anything else weird,

765
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.679
you know, feel free send an email and and would

766
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.800
love to have a follow up with you. Man.

767
00:40:57.400 --> 00:40:59.199
Yeah, bro, yeah, thanks for having me on. And like,

768
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.760
honestly I want to say thank you too, because I

769
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:04.239
was like having trouble sleeping for like many months and

770
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.199
your show like really helped me get through it, like

771
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.119
straight out because I don't know. It's like just really

772
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.039
relaxing hearing those stories and the way that you interview

773
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.199
people I think is cool because you let people kind

774
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.320
of talk and you're never judgmental or like. It's very

775
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.480
easy to listen to and like flying. Yeah, so I

776
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.039
just yeah, I just want to say things, and you

777
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.920
put out in a crazy amount of content. It is. Well,

778
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:26.559
every time I look, every time I need another episode,

779
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:27.199
there's another one.

780
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:34.480
It's it's a time managements. Time management. It's crazy. But

781
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.239
I appreciate the kind of words. Thank you, justin yeah,

782
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:37.880
thanks so much.

783
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:39.239
Absolutely.

784
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.280
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

785
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.559
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I

786
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.440
would love to get out in those woods and experience

787
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:52.960
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can

788
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.599
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

789
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:01.599
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is come up July tenth

790
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.639
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

791
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.559
better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be

792
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.679
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

793
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:18.000
I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard

794
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:24.159
anywhere else because let's just say, sometimes it's well, you

795
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.719
just gotta be there. We'll leave it that more about

796
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.519
looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out.

797
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:35.440
You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching

798
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:39.719
for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go

799
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:44.039
to the festival, but you can also sign up for

800
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:51.079
a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge

801
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:56.039
with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot.

802
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.159
There's only eight spots to sign up for this and yeah, yes,

803
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.960
this will also be filmed for the next chapter in

804
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.400
his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is

805
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.920
a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's

806
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.840
going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

807
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:19.199
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

808
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:24.760
can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

809
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.360
in order to get a two day pass for the

810
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.599
price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

811
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:36.599
for giving me that code so that you guys can

812
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.679
can get at a little help with the costs there.

813
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.559
Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

814
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.679
booth in Oakridge. This year we can talk about your encounter.

815
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.280
Was able to talk to so many people last year

816
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:56.519
and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

817
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.280
not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

818
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:02.679
you there Before we wrap this episode, I want to

819
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.960
say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

820
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.920
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

821
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:12.880
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

822
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.000
if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's

823
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.880
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

824
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.440
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

825
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:26.039
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

826
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.239
and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

827
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.440
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

828
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:36.400
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

829
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.760
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

830
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.920
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

831
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.400
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

832
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.320
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

833
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.679
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

834
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.719
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

835
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.239
spiritual retreat and you saw some that shook your faith,

836
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.039
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

837
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.440
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

838
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.280
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

839
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.559
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

840
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.440
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

841
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:27.239
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

842
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.639
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

843
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.519
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

844
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.000
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

845
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.199
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

846
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.079
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

847
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854
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:06.920
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855
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.880
please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

856
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.400
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

857
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.239
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858
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859
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860
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862
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863
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.119
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

864
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.599
Society until next time. Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

865
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:41.880
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

866
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.039
And see you in the woods.