Nov. 2, 2025

45 Minutes of Pure Terror in Oregon!

45 Minutes of Pure Terror in Oregon!
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Season 1

What really happened in that Oregon meadow? In this unnerving episode, we sit down with Mike — a carpenter from Alaska — as he recounts a deeply disturbing experience that’s haunted him since 1988. While elk hunting with his father in the remote forests near John Day, Mike was hit with a terrifying wave of emotion and a burning sensation that traveled up his spine — triggering the most primal fear he’s ever felt. What followed was 45 minutes of paralyzing panic, absolute silence, and the overwhelming urge to run. Was it infrasound? A predator cloaked in the woods? Or something else entirely? From sleepwalking terrors to a spare tire hurled across camp, this story will leave you breathless. You’ll also hear echoes of other strange accounts near Sweet Home and beyond — places where the woods hold secrets they don’t want you to know. If you've ever felt the forest watching you... this one's for you.

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You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Pick the Society get

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the privilege of talking to Mike today. Mike is a

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carpenter up there in Alaska, but he's on the show

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today to share an encounter that he had while el

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hunting down in the state of Oregon. And so welcome

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to the show.

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Mike.

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How are you doing today, sir?

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I'm good, sir.

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Thank you, absolutely. We were talking a little bit before

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the show. This is a story you've never really shared

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before in this type of format. We're thankful to you

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for taking some time out of your day. I know

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it's actually a little early there where you're at feel

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free to take us back to when this happened for

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you and set the scene what was going on, and

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then we will chat about it afterwards.

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All right, thank you. I have never shared this story

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with anybody. I'm not in detail. I've kind of graced

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over it a couple of times, but never really fully

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got into it. So this is quite a few years ago.

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Dad and I went to John Day to do some

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mel contient. He'd been up there before, so he knew

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there pretty good. I'd never been out there, but I

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was looking forward to it. We're going to camp out

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there for about a week, nice to get up to

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where we want to hunt. The day after we got

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there set up camp, Dad and I drove the spot

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where he had hunted before. I had walked this big

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game trail basically up to a certain point where he

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wanted to hunt, and I'm about twenty thirty minutes later,

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we decided to split up. He said, he's going to

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go up over this hill. I can fall on the

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trail and I'll come out in this little meadow and

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he'll meet me there for an hour or so. So yeah,

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I continued on. It's a beautiful day. The weather was good,

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it was early morning, no clouds, it was just a

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nice day. I walked it into this trail and sure

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enough there's this big, beautiful out fine metal, just gorgeous.

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The meadow was probably one hundred yards wide by one

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hundred yards of all surrounded by trees for the most part.

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And then where I was walking out was the hill

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that my dad was going to come out, and it

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was pretty clear as I could see you along was

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up the hill. So I figured I'd go into this meadow,

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get into the tree line, and get myself ready in

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case maybe he picks something out. And I'm walking into

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this meadow. It was just beautiful. It was just nice.

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It was I'm walking into this meadal. About the time

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I get almost in the center of this meadow, I

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got this sensation in the pit of my gut and

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it started out about a marble size, kind of a

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burning sensation, but without the pain, without the pain. It

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didn't hurt, but it.

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Was really warm, and the sensations is growing in my

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gut and it's growing outwards, and I remember it hitting

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my skin and then the sensation hit my spine and

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I'll never forget this.

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I can feel this thing. The sensation traveled up my

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spinal cord into the back of my brain, and when

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it hit my head, this is when things get really

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weird and really deep. But when it hit me call,

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things go through my mind first. That same time the

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first thing was run. It was like my inner being,

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my internal self is screening rock and mentally, I'm trying

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to figure out what's going on, what is the sensation really?

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And then why am I pant? And my body it's hard.

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It's almost like my body my mind separated for a minute.

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It's not like I'm out of body experience or anything

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like that. It wasn't. But my physical being is screaming rock,

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and mentally I'm trying to figure out what's going on?

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Why do I feel like this? And I'm looking around

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trying to understand my situation. My feets are trying to

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move my thought. I can feel all the muscles in

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my body. I am I'm ready to boult. I'm trying

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to understand mentally what's going on. I'm having this like

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an eternal battle between my physical being and my mental being,

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my mental state, my mind. I'm trying to figure out

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what's going on. Why do I feel like this? I

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don't see anything. There's nothing obviously on body. If you

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can imagine a stadium full of people all pank at

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one time, screaming and yell and run in all different directions,

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that's what this was like. It wasn't immense wow, and

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it was my voice. It wasn't something. It wasn't somebody

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else's voice or something else was It was my voice

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and just scream and literally run. I'm standing trying to

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bear what's going on, and my insides are just I've

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got this terrible conflict going on. Finally, I remember myself

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just telling them myself, yes, you have us. I want

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to up and run. Yes, I want to get out

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of here. I don't know what direction after the run in,

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so just chill for a sec. And as I said that,

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what I said sank in, and I realized I'm in

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a bad situation. Something's up, something's happening. And I got

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figured this out. I start walking these little three circles

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in this vallet, just so I could see all the

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around me to see whatever's going to come out at me.

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And you don't see it that when this thing hit

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this since they should hit my head. It was like

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all my senses I awaken, I can see clear, I

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get here, I can smell. I remember I could smell

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the trees. But I'm standing there and it was like

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my body just physically came alive. The skin is sensitive,

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I don't know, looks like an ancient, final primitive sensation.

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My body was really fear sigh. So I'm walking these

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little three circles and we're trying to see catching movement

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or hear anything. But it was absolutely dead silence. The

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silence was definitely I've heard that before and never und

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stood it and tell them it was still quiet. There

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was nothing not in the squirrels, no chipmunks, no birds, nothing.

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There was no wind, there was no sounds. Nothing in

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the trees are moving and I'm really trying to maintain

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my composure. Part of me it's just screaming to get out.

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So walk in these little three sixties, just observing my environment,

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trying to assess my situation, try to figure out what's

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going on. I don't see, hear anything, so I'm trying

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to figure out what I'm gonna do. Like it's the

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part of me wants to run, but my dad and

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I agree to meet here. I can't leave the situation

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because if I'm not here when my dad goes down,

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he's going to worry. And I'm sure I'm not gonna

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leave whatever business or my dad to deal with. I'm

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just not going to do that. So I'm telling myself,

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I'm not going to run. I'm not going to die

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a coward's dead. I'm going to stand here. I'm going

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to fight this, whatever this is. I can't leave. It's

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just absolutely not an option. All I can do is

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stay in here. I can do these little three circles,

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and I'm watching it for my dad. Come on this

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field and watch it for anything to come out of

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the woods. Nothing's happening. My dad's not supposed to come

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out for another thirty forty minutes. I know I got

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some time, but again, I literally I cannot gowhere. I

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can't leave the situation. I don't know exactly where my

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dad is going to come out. It's not like I'm

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going to walk towards it, so I don't know where

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it has gone. So again I'm having this huge time

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that my body is trying to do one thing and

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my mind is trying to keep me sensible and keep

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me aware of what's going on. I just can't do anything,

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just walk in these three sixties, trying and keep an

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eye out for everything. And I remember telling myself, I

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got to remember everything that's happened here and be clear,

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be clear. This went on for about fifteen minutes, and

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this is like the most terrifying fifteen minutes of my

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life I've ever had. Nothing's happening, and I'm trying to

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keep myself psyched up because I know something's going to happen,

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Something's going to come out, So I'm trying to go

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through them and the sheeting that something runs out, go

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through your focus to trying to run all these scenarios

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to me and trying to keep myself from newsom basically,

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which is exactly what my body has tried to do.

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It's just what I don't know where those threats coming from.

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I don't even know what this thread is. About thirty

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minutes into the deal, this is extremely taxing, It's very stressful,

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and I don't know how much longer I can deal

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with this. So started getting me just basically sack myself up.

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The suspense is killing me. I have no idea what

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this is or words coming from. So I started getting bad.

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This is it I'm going to die. I've come to

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terms with that. It is what it is. Let's do this,

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and let's get this a little bit. I started walking

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wider circles, closer and closer to the tree line, trying

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to draw out whatever's in the trees out to me

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so we can get this sale over. And then I

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got the closer I got to the tree. I was scared,

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without a doubt, I was scared. And the closer you

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get to the trees, the worse inside. I'll get back

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out in the middle of the field. I remember twice

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I actually laid down in the field because it was

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some tall grass about me, the grass brown. I remember,

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I'll lay down the grass for a count of five,

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then I'll jump up and see if anything's running out

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at me and take a shot. The second time, the

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suspense is killing me. There's just no way I can

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do that again. So this goes on. I had to watch,

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so I remember the time pretty good. It was about

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forty five minutes later. I see my dead up on

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top of the hill about where he said he's going

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to gate. I remember watching him comes out and cluttering,

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and he keeps walking trying to put some distance between

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him in the tree line, and then I see him

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coming down the hill and he's moving a pretty good clip.

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He's not running, but he's coming down a pretty good clip.

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That was my cube to go. So it was about

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two or three hundred yards to walk to the base

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of this hill where he was coming out. But the

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whole time I had me head on a swivel watching him,

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waiting to see what's going to go on. And we

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end up with my dad said, you're ready, he said,

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Yet when we turned around and we walked on the trail,

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we had never seen him. I got the truck to

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my dad. I said, Mansten, I'm gonna tell you something,

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the strangest thing before I continted. She said, yeah, me too,

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and so to talk about. But we really we had

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any idea with us. We didn't see anything at all.

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He didn't go into a lot of detail about what

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he went through, and I twenty three, twenty four years old,

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A lot, I say, what I do is disappoint my dad.

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So I didn't let only explain to him just how

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scared I didn't take. My dad have a certain the

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same thing with me. He didn't want to freak me out,

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so he didn't tell me. He didn't go in any detail,

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and I didn't go unto let me tell about it.

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So we get back to camp. That was pretty much

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the end of the experience. But I remember that night

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we were camping, we were trying to figure out people

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run to stay. So we just want to call it

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for both of us who take time off the work,

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and the planets trick us a big deal. We both

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taken off awake of work and we're only a couple

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of days into it. He was like, all right, let's

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just get some sleep. We'll talk about in the morning

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and figure out what we want to do, and we

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might d have a sleeping in the cabin to pick up.

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I was sleeping on the grass and sleeping bed and

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then I said he woke up mid night. He burnt something,

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he said, He sat up in the truck. He looked up,

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he says, he sees me walking around pick him up camp,

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trying to pack up, he said, And so me, reaching down,

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picked up the spare tie of the truck and throw

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it some twenty feet into the bed of the truck.

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And that's when he made up his mind that we're

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out here because something happened where now it's effected my

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sleep on sleepwalking, and I'm still even terrified on sleep

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I'm trying to get out of here. So that morning

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we did sleeping up packing and we left. On the

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way home, my dad told me about my sleepwalking, but

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that was the extent of the story. The fear. We've

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all been scared before, We've all had oo shit situations.

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I had been off bullpens of the firearms. I had

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been less than twenty people. I'm a brown bear up here.

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I've been way too close as a full of bears

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up in Cattovic. Those were scary situations, but all those

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combined don't even become close to the level that was experience.

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I really hope I never experienced that. It can.

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Wow, my good my goodness. That is extremely intense for

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you to go through that for that period of time.

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And I want to make sure that I got what

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you said at the end orpe. So your father saw

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you walking around camp and you threw a whole tire

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into the back of a truck.

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I did if we were in my dad's kicked up

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truck and we had taken a spare tire out of

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the bed of the truck instead of over the camp.

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But yeah, I will sleep. I have no memory of

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this whatsoever. But he said when he saw me do that,

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he realized that something shook me up pretty good that

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even in my sleep, I'm ready to go.

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Gotcha, what year was this again?

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This is what had to be right around eighty eight?

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Okayiny you so you said it's in the John Day area?

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Is it? So?

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I ask? I'm asking location questions because I've talked to

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a few other people around John Day. One individual had

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a similar situation where it was in a place called

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Strawberry Mountain outside of John Day and pretty much they

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the whole hunting camp and the people around they there's

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an unseen presence, there's moments of panic that make them leave,

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all that kind of stuff. So it's very interesting an

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unseen presence causing these really intense emotional responses to try

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to almost get a person to leave. And that's a

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little bit southwest of Strawberry Mountains. So I'm not sure

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if you were near that area at all, or you

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were actually pretty closet John Day.

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I was outside of John Dale, looked, I honestly couldn't

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tell you. Ok gotcha, how far exactly? Okay? But I

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remember the sensation started in the pit of my gut.

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It was the weirdest thing ever. It was just like

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a warm It was like almost like a burning, but

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about the pain. It started out small and it grew

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out towards me skin and this thing when it hit

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my spine, I could deal with a sensation travel up

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my spine. As soon as it hit my head, it

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was pure chatos. Every fiber of my being was screaming

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to run. And I honestly I think if I can

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taken off run and the panic, whatever it was, and

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I don't know what it was, whatever it was, probably correct, right, Yeah,

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something was trying to make me run.

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Absolutely the way you explained it, the sensation traveling up

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your spine. I mean, it's really similar to a few

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other things I've heard from people, but not out in

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the woods. It's how they describe it when they go

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back home and then they have stuff happen at home.

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And I remember this one guy from around Mount Rainier.

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I'm pretty sure he experienced a sensation but traveling up

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his spine like that as well. It's very interesting. During

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that time when you're hunting, I would imagine there's no

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no you weren't under any influence.

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Correct, Oh, no, absolutely not. My dad and I we

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went hunting. We always took it serious. I was on,

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I had no drugs, no alcohol. We took our hunting

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pretty serious.

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Gotcha. After the days after this, did you notice any

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weird bruising or rashes? And I know these are really

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like specific questions. You can only answer them if you're comfortable,

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but just curious if there are any weird things that

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showed up in the days afterwards on on, like your

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legs or arms or anything like that.

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No, nothing like that at all. It was anything. I

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was trying really hard to forget it. Got Did you

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forget about it? But no, I don't recall anything like that.

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Another interesting thing you said was how, in addition to

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getting these emotions of run, get out of here, you

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also said your senses were opened up or extremely alert,

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and just the way you could from what I got,

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the way you could hear, the way you could smell,

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So all of your senses were affected by this as

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well as what you're saying.

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Absolutely, it was lieter. It was like my vision everything

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was brighter, I could see clear, and I wasn't wearing glasses.

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I didn't have any for glasses, but I do recall

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I was like, wow, I mis got brighter. I couldn't

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hear anything. I could see everything, but there was no

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noise to hear. But yeah, even my skin felt different sensitive.

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Maybe I don't know.

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How long did that affect to your senses last?

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For that sensation that started, it lasted until we got

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a hot way back to the truck. As far as

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like my vision clear stuff, I don't know. I would imagine,

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I don't know. There was a lot more other important

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things pressing on my mind at that time. I didn't

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pay attention to that. But by the time I got

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halfway to the truck, that sensation in my stomach, that whatever,

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I had no idea, but it stopped. It was like

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a burning without a pain type of one sensation. But

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when it was happening, it my whole body. My whole

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body was lit up ready to go. And the farther

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right away I got from that situation, the more it stopped.

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And honestly, think, again, I don't know what this was.

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I don't know what caused it, but I think whatever

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it was, it caused me to panic. It also sense

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that I wasn't going to run, and I prepared myself

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to fight, and maybe that's why I up came. I

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don't know, but I think if I decided to run,

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I could have been another missing underd.

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Yeah, it's one of those things that really makes you

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wonder you hear about these. It's just the weirdest things

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out in Oregon, with people walking through portals on top

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of the mountains and things like that. So you had

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talked to your dad, but it sounds like there was

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never a time where you were able to have a

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really detailed conversation, Like he never really came out with

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what exactly happened to him, is what it sounded like.

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No, No, Mike was a tough old Vietnam vet. He

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wasn't a very emotional guy. He just said he had

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something felt strange and he had a need to get out.

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The days after this. So were you based out of

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Alaska at that time or were were you based out

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of no at the time.

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I lived outside of eugen little town called No Tie,

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just a little logging community.

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Oh yeah, so it's it's by Elmira in Someone looks like.

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Okay, yes it is right on like twenty.

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Six, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, that's cool. That's cool. The days

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after this happened, did you experience anything back in your

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home residence where you're like, it's weird, I'm thinking like this,

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or I'm having these thoughts come out of nowhere. Really

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hard to explain what's going on. Was there anything like

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that started to happen.

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No, honestly, nothing like that. Again, I think I was

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so determined to get this behind me that I don't

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remember a whole lot after that. For a while, even

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I don't know nothing weird.

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So are you saying it's hard to remember stuff that

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happened after that period of time.

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I don't even remember the drum? Oh wow, Okay, I

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just I think I was just so determed to get

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this behind me that I forgot about it. I wanted

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to forget about it. Since this happened, constantly thought about that.

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I've never flow deep into it. I just haven't remember

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something happened en. Actually, but since I've known that I'm

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going to be on here talk to me about nedssly,

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it brought back the whole thing, and it's still kind

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of scary even today. But I think the worst part

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about it was how long it lasted, and not knowing

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what it was, I wouldn't get anything what.

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Was man, So I guess I'll ask you, what do

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you think it was that caused that reaction to you

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that were inside of you that day?

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The only thing I can honestly say it is it

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was a predator, a some slot. I've listened to your

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shild for a couple of years now for people talk

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about infrasound. Back then, infra sound wasn't anything anybody talked about.

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It's not like there was a place to go to

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talk about this. And you know, the guys I was

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many not with at the time. I think I was

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this he or looney one or the other. Was just

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didn't really happen how to do to share this slip.

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But I think honestly it was a prep turn and

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after learning about the simp of sound, and maybe it

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wasn't it again. I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything,

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I didn't smell anything, but something that influenced my body.

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So it's weird. It's like my mind and my body

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that breate my I didn't have enough body, nothing like that,

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but my physical being was trying to do one thing

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and my mind was trying to keep my stuff together,

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but my body was physically trying to get out of there,

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and I said all it was just the one word, NonStop,

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as loud as my inner voice could be, screaming. It

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wasn't run because of this, run because of that. It

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was just run. My body did everything it could do that,

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But mentally I was trying to figure out what's going on,

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why do I feel like this and trying to keep together.

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Really to me, and this is just my theory, I

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would agree with you. It really sounds like one of

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the most intense cases of infrasound that I've ever heard

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on the show. It is really it's a really intense one.

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But just the way it's weird because I mentioned it already,

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but the way that you explain how it traveled up

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your spine. Usually that's used with accounts of people being

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healed by bigfoot, which is so weird. Not to say

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that's weird, but it's just I've never seen that way

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of talking in an infra sound event. And maybe I

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haven't talked to enough people about their infrasound events. Maybe

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that's it.

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No, I wasn't in any need of healing at the time.

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I was in serious need even say, this whole thing

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lasted about forty minutes, and that is a long time

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to be under a lot of stress like that. It's

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just the whole time I'm having this internal battle. My

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body is literally just screaming run the whole time. And

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then in my mind, I'm trying to figure out why

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I just I never got an answer.

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So after this, so I guess the way I'm thinking

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about it, there was a point then in your life

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after this that you must have started to make some

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connection to Okay, what was it that caused this? Was

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it maybe Bigfoot? Was When was that time where you

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started to maybe make connections about what potentially could have

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happened that day to you?

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Probably just listening to your shows, a big Foot show.

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Back then, there wasn't pull any podcasts in my way

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up and there wasn't a big discussion form on the matter.

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But I've been listening to your show, I think about

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two few and that beers now, and I think I

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started hearing these different experiences people were having, and that's

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that's the only thing I can think of. Something literally

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tried to make me panic, and that's the only thing

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I can think of. It was I was excited about

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the hunt. My dad and I worked on great terms.

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I had no stresses in my life. Life was good.

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I was twenty four years old. Me and I had

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to work by the tail. I had nothing to be

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worried about at all. This really shook my world. I

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remember when you're that age man, you fear nothing or nobody.

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But after that experience, I realized I am not the

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biggest status saying walking around the woods for the rifle, yeah,

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absolutely tell them. Myself, I was telling myself, I haven't

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a rifle and I could take downthing that comes out.

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And once I made up my mind, I wasn't gonna run,

461
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I was gonna fight. I was psyching myself, but told myself,

462
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.240
I've got plenty of time. I'm dead center in this field.

463
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.039
I can see all the way around me. If something

464
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.200
comes out, I'm gonna have three and five seconds to

465
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.839
take a good shot at whatever this is. But he

466
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.599
even knowing me, I don't think it was enough. I

467
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.559
was still. I was scared. I was terrified. I did

468
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:23.920
not know what to do. I couldn't leave. It was

469
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:25.440
the worst experience of my life.

470
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:30.519
I'm not a scutcher, so a few things have you

471
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.799
ever gone back to that area since then.

472
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.960
No, that was I think it was like a four

473
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.240
four and a half hour drive from where we lived.

474
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:39.759
That's why I was a big deal for us to

475
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.960
go my dinner together. But no, I never did go back.

476
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.119
We were out in a pretty secluded area. We only

477
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.200
the whole time we were out there. Two days we

478
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.960
were there. We only ran into one other person out there,

479
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.079
and he was on horseback and he stopped the topless

480
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.680
for a little bit. He said he was an outfitter

481
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.559
out there guy. One of his forces out there is

482
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.839
looking for it. But that was the only person that

483
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:06.559
we saw out there the whole time.

484
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.720
That's interesting that he lost a course out there. Have

485
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:17.799
you ever considered, potentially we're going under hypnosis to see

486
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:21.039
if anything else did happen to you that day that

487
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.440
maybe your mind is blocked out.

488
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.519
Yeah, I'd never thought about it. Yeah, I guess that'd

489
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.480
be curious. Maybe I'm not sure if there's something more there.

490
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.119
If there is, if I want to know, but I've

491
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.400
never thought about doing it now.

492
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.039
Yeah, And that's the tricky thing. It's if there's something

493
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.279
more that's worse than what you can remember, do you

494
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.359
really want to bring that up. Maybe there's a reason

495
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:48.720
that your buyers know you're not gonna ye.

496
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.079
Yeah, But at the same time, I want to know

497
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.000
what that was that was years ago. I'm beyond that.

498
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.920
I would like to know what it was, but I

499
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:02.680
don't know. I'll never know if it was.

500
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:10.680
Some people, when they have experiences like this, they'll start

501
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:15.039
looking into the subject and they'll start looking into the

502
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.920
area where they have the encounter. Is that anything that

503
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.640
you've done where you've looked into this area in John

504
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.960
Day and seeing if you can find any other things

505
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.200
that have happened there related to Bigfoot? Potentially I did not.

506
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.079
I have it now, and the whole time this has happened,

507
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.160
it would never cross my mind. I didn't know what

508
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.960
it was. Dared it come to mind, another human it

509
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.960
come to mind. I don't know what it was. I

510
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.839
never thought about bigfoot until, like I said, it started

511
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:45.680
listening to your show.

512
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.640
That's it's first off, thank you for listening.

513
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.599
I know it's a crazy story. It's even a crazier experience.

514
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.079
And so the other interesting thing that you mentioned, so

515
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.319
you've talked to you your dad about this because he

516
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.160
was there. But this is something where you've never really

517
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:06.839
talked to anyone else about this.

518
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:11.960
It sounds like crap. I've never shared this whole story

519
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.920
with anybody. This is the first time I've ever said

520
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:14.480
this out loud.

521
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.920
You know, why would it be something that you would

522
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:24.599
share now, something that happened more than almost forty years ago. Really, Yeah,

523
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:26.880
I don't know.

524
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.079
Maybe somebody's got some answers for a couple of people

525
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.720
say they tell their story and hope that somebody else

526
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.240
will come up with their story and actually get some answers.

527
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.799
I don't know. I just I don't know. I just

528
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.440
want I just want to know what this says, what happened,

529
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:45.799
you know.

530
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.880
And I man so much that someday we start getting answers.

531
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.279
I think that there's some stuff going in the background

532
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.400
that we might start to get answers.

533
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:57.400
But it just.

534
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.599
I think, man, it's just it's it's so weird. Where

535
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.960
I'm thinking back again to what you said where it

536
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.440
started as like a marble sized sensation in your stomach,

537
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:17.279
and it's almost there's directed energy involved, right, because it's.

538
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:21.759
Exactly it started in the center the pit of my

539
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.440
center where it started, and I remember it was a

540
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:30.960
very small sensation and growing and then when this thing

541
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.039
get my spinal column, it didn't feel like it was

542
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.799
going through my burgers. It felt like it would just

543
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.279
looked through my spinal column. And when it hit the

544
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.640
back of my head, I remembered that sensation. It was

545
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:42.640
the craziest thing.

546
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.440
Another thing I was going to ask you is, after

547
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:50.000
this happened, did you so it's never a thing you

548
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.200
checked in with the doctor physical afterwards you were like, Hey,

549
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.000
by the way, had this weird thing happened? It sounds

550
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.480
like it had never come up to a medical professional.

551
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.240
No. I don't want to sound like I'm crazy. And

552
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.079
maybe that's one of the reasons why I've never told

553
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.480
the story, because it is it's out there a little bit.

554
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.240
People hear stuff like this, and they don't want to

555
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.279
hear stuff like this. I know it's a different it's

556
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.519
a different thing. It's not something you want to meet

557
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.759
personally to go off bragging about. Because I was very

558
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.079
weak that day. I never felt that terrified before. I

559
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.519
so that was the young kind will but tell I

560
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:32.680
feared nothing. I left that day very humble. It took

561
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.039
me a while to get over that part. That was

562
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.319
a really challenging point for me. Like I said, we

563
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.960
do you think you're big and bad? Say to find

564
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:42.839
out nothing I can get.

565
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:50.079
Absolutely, just to double check after this, So you're listening

566
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.319
to the show, maybe checking out other things as well.

567
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.480
Have you had any other things happened, as you said

568
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.279
you're up in Alaska? Now, I know there are some

569
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.680
definite things that can happen up there, but it sounds

570
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.799
like you've been able to not really run into any

571
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.559
issues up where you're at now.

572
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.160
No, it's never really scared me out of the woods

573
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:16.480
or anything. But I've never had any other I didn't

574
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:18.960
I was followed out one time. Went Buddy and I

575
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.119
were fish in this remote lake, but we just assumed

576
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.960
it was a bear, and we got back to where

577
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.079
we were camped and we got to talking about it.

578
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.960
I don't know we convinced ourselves that was a bipedal.

579
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.839
It's sound that we're hearing following us out or not.

580
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.720
But even nothing became of that, gotcha. But my dad

581
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:44.400
sleephole or my dad bound some big footprints out there.

582
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.640
They were out this is and I was still just

583
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.319
a kid at this time, But I know my dad

584
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.599
telling me a story about him out there around the

585
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:58.079
river or lake or something found some big footprints. Yeah,

586
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:03.279
with a size thirteen. He said this track was four

587
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.559
five it's is longer and three or four inches wider

588
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.039
than he didn't see anything, he didn't say. He's ally

589
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.519
that he just found the big footprints. Yeah.

590
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.360
Absolutely. Did you say that was sweet home?

591
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:14.639
Yes?

592
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.239
Okay, Yeah, that makes total sense. That area is so

593
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.519
extremely active, especially up by the reservoir. I don't know

594
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.000
if it was up by that.

595
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.320
I think that's where they were. I talked to my

596
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.280
mom about this last night lands. She would remembered that

597
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.719
she kind of went to the store that he found

598
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.920
the tracks, and he wanted to go back and follow

599
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.079
the tracks for a while, but she was scared. She

600
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:39.960
said she was not going to stay there by herself

601
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.639
with a couple of kids while he's out.

602
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.639
On what year approximately? Do you think that would have

603
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.480
been where he had that finding?

604
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.480
Okay? I remember my youngest sister was born to run that.

605
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.960
Time, gotcha? And growing up in and I was at

606
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.719
No Dy, Oregon, right, no tie, no tie, thank you?

607
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.920
So growing up in No Taie, Oregon was bigfoot a

608
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:11.320
thing that ever made its way into stories that you

609
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:15.239
would hear maybe at school or people that you lived

610
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.400
around things like that.

611
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:19.800
Yeah, I didn't go up there. I just happened that's

612
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.559
where I was living at the time, but I was

613
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.039
I don't recall anybody talking about any stories at all,

614
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:31.360
Big Pot. This is a big longing community. I don't

615
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.920
recall it. Definitely. It wasn't something you hear people talking about. Never. Oh.

616
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:41.639
I never recall any conversations over here anyboy talking about.

617
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:46.199
Big Absolutely and Mike this is And I just want

618
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.440
to say thank you for sharing what you experienced that

619
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.400
day out in the John Day area. As I said,

620
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.400
I think it was infrasound experience and it's one of

621
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.679
the most intense ones that I I've heard on the

622
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.079
show so far. I do want to make sure that

623
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.199
you were able to share everything that you had come

624
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.239
on the show to share today.

625
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:13.880
Yeah, I do. And I appreciate you listening and appreciate

626
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.719
you like getting me an agree for laughing at me

627
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.760
about this. I said, I struggled with us for a

628
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.400
long time. Maybe now that I got it off my chest,

629
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:22.760
I can want to let.

630
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.760
It go out absolutely, and I hope you do. And

631
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:30.800
I know most people when they're able to have conversations

632
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.320
like this, it can be very helpful. But if there's

633
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.400
any other questions that you have about the subject, or

634
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:40.119
are you trying to get in touch with someone, feel

635
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.719
free to reach out. You've got my contact info now

636
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.280
and I'll try to help you the best I can.

637
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.239
But Mike, thank you for coming on the show and

638
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.440
spending some time with me well during your morning, so

639
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.559
I really appreciate it.

640
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.480
Thank you, sir. I appreciate you letting me be on

641
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:57.920
here and tell my story as well.

642
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.440
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

643
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.719
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

644
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:07.480
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

645
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.360
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

646
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.679
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

647
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.679
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

648
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.960
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

649
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.599
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

650
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.840
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

651
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.280
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

652
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.599
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense,

653
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.960
if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

654
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:41.119
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

655
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.599
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

656
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.519
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

657
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.880
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

658
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.920
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

659
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.440
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

660
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.239
or if you work in the show CIA, NSA or

661
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.639
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

662
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.440
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

663
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.760
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

664
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.639
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

665
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:24.440
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

666
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.840
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

667
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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

668
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669
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670
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688
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689
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690
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