March 3, 2026

A Stevens County Man Shares 50 Years of Sasquatch Encounters in Washington

A Stevens County Man Shares 50 Years of Sasquatch Encounters in Washington
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary lifetime experiences of Hillbilly from Stevens County, Washington, a lifelong outdoorsman who has spent more than five decades in the forests surrounding Hunter’s Pass, Waits Lake, and the Columbia River corridor. Growing up in eastern Washington and eventually purchasing land in the same region, Hillbilly shares how his encounters began in the early 1970s and continued steadily over the course of his life.


From a violent late-night impact on a camper near Hunter’s Pass to piercing screams in the mountains near Waitts Lake, Hillbilly recounts a series of events that shaped his understanding of what moves through these woods. After settling on his own property in Stevens County, the activity followed in the form of thunderous roars near a beaver dam, a 17-inch footprint discovered in spring mud, explosive tree knocks on a hunting ridge, and repeated rock throwing around his shop.


As the years passed, Hillbilly describes increasingly direct experiences, including towering eye shine at the edge of his driveway and a daylight sighting along the Columbia River of a fully hair-covered figure standing along a ridge line. He reflects on how these encounters affected his family, his perspective on the land, and his evolving view of the beings he believes travel ancient corridors through eastern Washington.


Join us as we navigate his decades of encounters in Stevens County and explore what may still be moving quietly through the mountains of eastern Washington.

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You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Hillbilly today. This gentleman

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is from Stevens County, Washington, also from around the Hunter's

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Pass area is another thing that he said I could

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point out, But Hillbilly's on the show to share some

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really interesting things that he has experienced in this area

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over the years. There's going to be a lot in

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this one. So Hillbilly, sir, how are you doing today?

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I'm doing pretty good, Jeremiah. How you all do? Oh?

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Doing great. We're just hanging out here in Iowa and

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it's a pretty good day so far, but man, Stevens

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County has a lot going on in it, sir. So yeah,

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you're a lifelong hunter, fishermen, outdoorsman, and you've been in

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these woods for such a long time out here in

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Stevens County. I want to say, almost forty years is

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what you told me? Right?

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Yes, sir, My wife and I bought this dirt. What's

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nothing known at six years ago?

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My goodness, Well, he'llbilly, I know you've got you've got

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some things to share. You've got it all squared away

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on your side. Feel free to take us back to

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when you first started realizing there was something going on

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out there.

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I guess, okay, well that'll like shee, that's going to

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be before we bought this dirt. Just to give you

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a little info here, my dad passed away with massive

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part attack when I was seven. He was a master

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mechanic and that was down in the dry Cities, and

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my mom had ended up moving us as well. She

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we went to Oregon for almost a year, down in

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the outskirts of Medford, and she wanted a little farm.

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So we come up to spoken and she bought this

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old rundown mini farm out and green acres. It was

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called Believe Were or Not, And that was in winter

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sixty nine. And let's just fast forward to nineteen seventy one.

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Mom loves huckleberry's and my grandpa had come to live

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with us six months after my dad passed away. My

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grandma passed away, and so Grandpa came up and my

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mom had heard about this place where there was some

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nail size huckleberries and lots of them, and so she

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got the directions and we come up about a well

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close to hundreds pass let's say, and back in them days,

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it was just a goat trail. I mean, we had

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to put our truck and camper into compound first gear

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to crawl up to what they called the four Corners area.

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And we turned right and that was where all the

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four corners, probably nine miles from the highway, and we'd

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come up on about a quarter mile to the right,

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up on the ridge and lolling bole we found huckleberries.

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It's kind of sparse, but they were biggin's. And so anyway,

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Mom parked truck and camper on the north side of

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that old forest service road right next to a big

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old moundish shale. In fact, the whole area was a

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lot of shale up there, and this is a pretty

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steep embankment, and she was parked about eight foot away

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from it. I guess backed up there and uh. We

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picked huckleberries that day and got quite a few, and

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we all went dead probably around nine thirty ten o'clock

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at night, and my mom she slept in the overhead

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of the camper. My grandpa slept in the bed that

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was up against what you'd call back of the cab,

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and then I slept on the floor on a cod

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and I remember correctly, it was about one o'smlock in

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the morning. A big old bang hit the side of

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the camper and it rocked that old Chevrolet. I mean

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it rocked it good. And Grandpa he was first one up.

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And he always wore long johns. We're talking twelve months

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of the year because he had four circulation and was

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always cold. And this is in July. And he grabbed

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his forty four that was laying on the counter and

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a flashlight and stepped over me and opened the door.

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By that time I was getting up. He swung that

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door open, shined the flashlight around. Couldn't see nothing, couldn't

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hear nothing and go of what was going on. And

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so we actually stepped down the little steps going out

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the back of the camper and we're looking around. There

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ain't nothing there, and it's just, I mean, it's quiet

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as a church mouse out there. And we're looking and looking,

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and Grandpa he shines his light on the side of

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the camper and here's this big old dent up at

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the very top of it, about twelve thirteen inch diameter,

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just a big old dent and went in about an

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inch and it was at the very top. And the

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next day we'd measured it and it's nine foot from

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the ground up to that. Well. Next morning, now when

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we was looking around, he noticed there were too what

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looks like skid marks coming down that shale hill next

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to the camper, and he goes, ain't no pair like

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that around here, you know, And just couldn't, you know,

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couldn't believe that something could get at that high up

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and we wasn't parked under, no trees, were a branch

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or something to get it, you know, Just the left

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is kind of dumbfounded. And I remember him chuckling, saying

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something about something Missouri white, Missouri wild manners sucking He said,

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we never thought much about it, and anyway, we ended

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up finishing up that. It took us two days to

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get all the various met to MoMA on the can

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up and make preserves and teas and cams out up.

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Will fast forward about three months. It was the night

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before when they had deer season, and once again mean

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Grandpa and Mom went up to a place close to

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Waite Slate, which as the cow flies, it came very

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far from where we was picking Huckleberry's up there at

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four Corners. And I remember we'd pulled down in this

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little place and they called it Little Sweden, but all

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it was was forests and big open meadows and stuff

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like that. And I don't think there was another anybody

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camped within oh shoot, probably a half mile of us,

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at least a half mile. And I remember we got

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up there about sundown that night, because that was I

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think it was Friday night, and was getting camp set

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up in that broken day, and it must have been

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somewhere around ten o'clock at night. Me and Grandpa was

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outside the camp or Mom's inside getting stuff arranged, and

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all of a sudden we heard this stream that I'll

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tell you brother, it was the loudest, most piercing, blood

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turtling stream you could ever imagine, very high pitched. And

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my mom poked her head out the camper door and

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looked at my grandpa, said, Daddy was at a dang panter.

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And about that time it did it again. And I'll

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tell you, Jeremiah, that stream lasted somewhords in the neighborhood

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at fifteen seconds long each one of those streams. Now,

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we never heard nothing after that, but I remember my

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Grandpa saying, that ain't no cat. They ain't got that

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much wind. And like I said, it was God. It

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had to have gone on for at least twelve to

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fifteen seconds each one of those high pitched You could

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almost describe it as a woman with a real high

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pitched boys kreeman at the top of her lungs, but

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carrying on and on. She never ran out. We never

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ran out of air that type thing. We never saw anything,

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never heard anything again after that. But that was the

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two encounters back and seventy when they both was in

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seventy one and about three months apart, because we were

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picking the uckberries in July I think above, and then

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season I think started in October, so yeah, it was

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only about three months apart there. Now we're going to

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have to fast for fast forward. They're up to nineteen ninety.

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And in nineteen ninety my wife and I decided we

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wanted to buy a piece of ground up in Stevens

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County and have kids raise him up here, which we did.

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And anyways, in nineteen ninety I found an ad for

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forty acres more or less said Stevens County, and my

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mom was still alive then and she wanted to go

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with us to look at it. And so we got

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the direction, told the we're here. We'd meet him on

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the Hunters Highways that's what we call it. It's actually

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called a Springdale to Hunters Road, and we'd meet him

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there and then follow him up where the property was.

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And we got almost all the way here looking around,

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and she goes, you know, son, this looks awful familiar.

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And I went, yeah, I think so. I said, we

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used to come up this road back then. It was

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a goat trail. I said, we used to come up

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to Stirt Road and you go up to the top

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of the ridge up there and pick berries. She goes,

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that's right, she said, that's that time. That something slammed

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the dinn at the top of the camper and I go, yes, sir,

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that's the one. But we ended up looking at the

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property and I looked over my wife and I said,

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I don't know about you, but I like it, and

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she said, let's just buy it. So we actually bought

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the property that day and decided that we would just

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buy a manufactured home, put on the property, have a

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well drilled and uh power. There was a power line

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already here from decades before, so I didn't have to

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pay to have the power brought in, but we had

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to do a set, pick and everything, and we actually

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was able to move in to a home. And in

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August we decided we'd live in the camper for a

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couple of weeks until I got the manufactured owned set

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brought in there, brought in and set and uh we

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will fast forward a couple of months and uh oh,

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probably mid September, I think it was. I told my wife,

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I said, hey, I said, I'm going to walk across

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that from that field and meador over to the creek

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because there's a crick only one hundred and fifty foot

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away from the literally the front door of a house

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and uh. So, I grabbed my old twelve gage and

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walk across the field and there's a beaver dam. There

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was somewheres in the neighborhood of thirty foot long, a

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big one, and I want to shoot. I'm going to

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get over that ticket and scooped me up some grouse

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and I made it about halfway across tent beaper damn

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and my dame foot slipped or one of those beaver

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logs kind of rolled a little bit, and I almost

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dropped my shotgun, and I blurted out off the cloud said,

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within about a second and a half or two seconds,

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I got the most ugoggly roar, stream, haror whatever y'all

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want to call it, of my life. It put instant fear, terror, scaredness,

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whatever y'all want to call it into me. And I

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don't know how I done it, but I somehow suther

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and literally ran off the top of that weaver dam

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and I ran across that field. When I got up

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into the front yard area, I'm looking, I'm going, if lord,

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I'm carrying a loaded twelve gage shotgun and running from

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this thing. And I burst in the front door into

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the kitchen and laid my shotgun on the table and

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I'm just I'm out of breath. I'm shaking like a leaf.

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And my wife looks at me and she goes, what

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going on? She said, you white as a gold boy,

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And I said, give me a cup of coffee. And

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she caught me a cup of coffee and I lit

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a cigarette and still a shake and I couldn't even

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pick the coffee up. I taking some bad And then

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I told her what had happened. And I said, money,

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I said, I've never in my life hurting anything like this.

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In fact that as we're talking can jere my eye

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and just getting to do, I'm all over it. It

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still scared me today, but only that way I can

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describe it. It almost sounded like an elephant's trunk frost

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with a lion's roar that just goes on and on

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and on. I mean it, actually I can remember it

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vibrated my chest. It was so loud. And after I

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settled down and thought about it, I told my wife

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I said, I said that was nothing I've ever ever

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heard before. I said, I don't know what it was.

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All I know is it put the most spear and

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terror through me instantly, And it took a few days

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for me to even think about walking back down yonder

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and I ended up I had a three hundred weether

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and I told him the wife. I was like, I'm

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going to get my rifle. I said, I'm going to

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walk map down there. And I said I ain't going

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in there because there's a big thicket there. But I said,

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I'm going to poke my head around, look and see

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if I maybe can startle something again. And I started

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making noise before I got to that beaver dam because

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I figured, whatever it was, if it's still in there,

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I'm going to shout out to the cat. And I

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actually ended up I couldn't get nothing to respond. I

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actually made my way across that beaver dam and I

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got into this thicket, and I mean a real thick

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ticket say that passed of aciphens and that. And in

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the middle of this area, I walked in probably about

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thirty maybe forty feet I've seen this area, and all

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the grass was laid down just I mean mashed right

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down to the dirt. And I thought, oh, deer beds,

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But there wasn't no deer scattered nothing there. There was

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nothing at all, just blackened grass. Now, to give you

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a little rundown on the dirt we got out here.

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This place sets on an eighty five foot sick slave bed.

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And in the springtime, when everything's melted and the grounds

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all soggy, you can take your foot and stomp down

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hard on the ground and you can see a jiggle

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like putting six foot away from you. But let it

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sit for a couple well months in the summer, and

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grab up a pick axe and with the point of

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n swing it as hard as you can. You're only

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going to penetrate background about two inches with a pick

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axe swung it full force. That's how hard this ground gets.

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So yeah, there was no tracks to speak of of anything.

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But that was that little experience. And we have to

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go on a couple of years to I was a

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mechanic my whole life, and I worked out of in

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another town. Let's say I ran a shop there and

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see that was nineteen ninety. Okay, well we'll we'll step

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forward a couple of years to when my boys were born.

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They were born in the in the middle nineties. And

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when they got a little older, and that I bought

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uh TRT bikes worn I mean real young age too.

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But I taught the matter I had them dirt bikes. Shoot,

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I think my one son, he was three and a

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half when I put him along to fifteen, and he'd

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done them good. But uh, we would go past the

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property and head up on the mountains a little farther,

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and there's a spot up there that we call the

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Moose Ponds. And that's because right next on the uh

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let's see Robert that I'd be on the west side

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of the fire road whatever forest road, there's two big, old,

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huge ponds and you'd always see moose there, so we

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just kind of nicknamed it the Moose Pawns. And there

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was a spur road that took off there that ran

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on the west side of the moose Ponds up and

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around into a big loop and then come back out

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to the same road, spur road that you went in on.

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And I'm going to say that little circular road probably

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covered all somewhere around one hundred and twenty acres, I'm

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just guessing. And so me and the boys we turned

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on that spur road on our motorcycle and started riding up.

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And it was in a late spring, so there was

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still mud puddles, but the main ground was very good

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and dry and we come up to this big, old,

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huge mud puddle, and I saw when I'd always be

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in the lead and then they'd follow on their little hondas,

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and we come up with a big mud buttle. On

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the right hand side of it, I seen a dang footprint.

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So I stopped, put the kicks stand down on the bike,

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so the boy and walked up there because I thought

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it was a bear. When I first rode up on it,

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I thought it was a bear track and knit it

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got it where your paw into the front pall the

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way they do, you know, and it kind of makes

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them look long. But when I walked up to it

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and looked down at it, and I'm going, it ain't

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no bear because they ain't no claw marks, And into

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them toes and them were big toes and they're splayed out.

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And I told the boys, I said, would you look

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at that? And there was nothing on the right side

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because it was hard pan play, but there was just

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that one footprint there. So I went off and I

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got a stick and I broke at the length of it,

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and then I laid the skin sideways across what I

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think they call it the ball of the foot, or

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right behind the toes there and I skinned the bark

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on the stick for the width of it. And we've

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seen a ridge right in front of what the I

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guess you'd call the heel, about two inches in front

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of bats during ridge that went across kind of did

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not exactly straight across. It was you know, kind of

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had a dog leg in it. And couldn't figure that

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out until later when we was watching shows and Jeff

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Melgram had mentioned that mid parcel white point in the foot. Well. Anyways,

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we finished our ride and we got back home and

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I took a tape masure that name track was seventeen

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and a half inches long and seven and a half

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inches wide at the ball and I started kicking it up,

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destroying it. And my oldest son through the year older

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than my youngest, he said, why are you doing that? Dad?

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He said, they's casting up. I said no, I said,

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And don't you guys be breathing a word and none

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of this to your friends. I said, I don't need

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people up here shooting at anything that moves into brush

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brush Because I said, there's a bunch of idiots and

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do just that. I said, let's just keep this to ourselves.

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I said, half the people ain't gonna believe us anyways,

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you know. And but that was the first time I'd

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ever seen a crack up here. Now we're going to

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fast forward, and by this time, boys are twelve years

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old and they got their hunting license. I got them

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from brand new rifles. I think one boy at twelve

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years old carrying at four forty four Marlin. Then together

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when was carrying a three o eight. But we decided

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that we was going to go Acros all Star trek

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and up on the hillside. And we had seen some

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big bucks come through there in late evening and early

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mornings and that in the past few weeks. And there

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was an old road over there that Feller had put in, oh, shoot,

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probably back in the seventies and that when he did

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a little selective logging and that. So we'd went ahead

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and crossed over, got up there and was walking down

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that road. Now for my house was this area, I mean, shoot,

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it was straight west of my front door of my

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house down yonder and uh but uh, oh, I don't know,

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one hundred and fifty yards maybe, And uh, we're being

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really quiet walking down this road and it's all overgrown

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pretty good and from riding our motorcycles through there. We

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knew this one area that was ah it looked like

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it might have been probably forty well, probably a thirty

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acre area that had been clear cut out years and

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years and years ago. And there was a few you know,

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small pool pines and dove with spur and camerarack growing

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getting little little thing. So and we had got up

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and I said, that be really really quiet when we

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get up here. And I was trying to decide for

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where I was going to put the boys and then

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I'd probably walk up and slush out of beer for them.

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But I remember we walked up on that old road

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and we had no more got to the corner there,

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and we're just standing there real quietly looking at this

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hillside to the pretty steep hillside, like I said, around

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a thirty acre area. And then it was bordered on

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the south side by a huge, huge thicket that went

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clear up to the top of it, which I mean

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it was thick, you couldn't see anything through it. And

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we'd only been there maybe two minutes. All of a

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sudden we heard the biggest crop we'd ever heard. Jeremiah.

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For me to describe this, it's gonna sound far fetched,

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but I can only describe it of It sounded like

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somebody took a five or six cench diameter log and

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smacked it as hard as say, we're talking, it'd have

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to take a machine to do it, and smacked it

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against about a three foot diameter tree. That's what it

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sounded like. I mean, it was I ain't no man

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gonna do it well. And the boys had already been

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watching shows and that on Bigfoot, and they knew that.

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At that time, I believed it existed. The first time

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I seen it, I think I was eight years old.

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It was on the world Er Nightly News or something,

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right after my box passed away, and they had a

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little flash of the Patterson Gimblin film on the on

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the news, and I remember seeing that thing that Caddie,

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they call it now walking, and I just knew there

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had to be something in the woods, you know. And uh.

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But anyway, it stared so bad that we had tiled

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it out there, and we came back home and remember,

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I think was my youngest boy got his baseball bad.

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Old Wooden went out and he walks down and he's

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beating on trees out here, trying to see how loud

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it was, and it just shoote it didn't even come

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close to the loud crack that that was. So we'll

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fast forward a couple of days and the boys didn't

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want to go back up there, but I told him,

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I said, look, I said, we all got guns. You

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stick right with me. I said, let's just sneak back

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up there. And I said, let's see if we can

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see tracks or something, her ear or something. And I said,

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I got a funny lunch. I know what that is.

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And it was two or three days, I can't remember which.

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Later we ended up walking back up there and tanged

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it all. Same thing happened. It was within, except it

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was quicker this time because we actually had made a

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little emploise coming up to it, we know, more than

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got to that corner of where we were standing a

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couple of days before. And here come that big o'd

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allowed just one, not multiple, just one big o allowed

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our rustic And I said, yeah, I'm good, let's go.

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And of course the boys had already turned around, was

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heading back down on the road and we're going home. Dad,

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you stay here if you want to. We're going home.

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But uh so that takes care of that now, like

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I said, I've got piles and piles of different encounters

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than that we had come across. But we're gonna fast

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forward a few years. By this time, the boys are

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already growed up. I'm guessing. Oh shoot, I'm guessing it

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was somewhere around twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, maybe my youngest

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son and I was out on our by that time.

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We built a new house across the road up on

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a hill and still on the same property that we've

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always been, but it was about eleven o'clock at night,

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and we was talking about engines and stuff and race cards.

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And after I built over the years, and we're at

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the end of our deck. It'd be the west end

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of it. Now. I got a big, old, huge shop

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that's about four hundred and four hundred and fifty foot

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down the hill road and it's kind of a meadow

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week field behind it, and then you come to this

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little seven acre area that is just solid trees and

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it's got a seasonal trick pro posts to it and that.

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But we're out there laughing, talking, having a cigarette there

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on the front porch there at the end of it,

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and we're hearing something coming out of that thicket behind

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my shot, and I go listen to that, son, and

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it sounded like a troop of monkey's plane. I mean

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it sounded like monkey talk. Not I'm not talking with

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gorilla drums or anything. I'm talking. It sounds like monkey's

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in there. And I go, I know, dang well, we

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ain't got monkeys and these deer woods. And I went,

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I'm going to try something, and I went and everything went,

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and then we heard two whoops back along with a grunt.

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My son looked at me and he said, hey, you

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know what that. Let's go in the house. He said,

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I don't need to hear no more. And we did.

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We It spooked us pretty good, so we come back

454
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.680
in the house. But it's kind of funny throughout the

455
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:31.240
the years, even up to date. H My sons used

456
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.799
to well, like I said, we built dragged cars and

457
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:38.799
drag boats and stuff. And we'd be working in the

458
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.799
shop late, I mean late at night, you know, eleven

459
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.119
and twelve o'clock, you know, finishing something up, and they'd

460
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.839
have the stereo blasting phibizens. Summertime, the doors would be opened,

461
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:54.839
big oak sliding doors and we would hear rocks bunce

462
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:01.440
off the boot to that shop. And and like I said,

463
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:06.880
we the area around here is it's clay. The only

464
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.599
rocks that you will find out here was what I

465
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.279
paid to have broad ins of the years. But in

466
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.880
the seasonal crip you could see rocks, you know, from

467
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:24.519
the worsh out that over the years. But we would

468
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.359
hear them rocks bouncing off the roof. And it's a

469
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.680
big old king building, you know, at three thousand square foot,

470
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.039
I think, so pretty loud inside. We'd grab the flashlights

471
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:40.559
and go out and we'd find small, i'd say, two

472
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.400
inch diameter rocks where they had bounced off the roof

473
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.720
and then you know, rolled down and landed next to

474
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.559
the shop. We kind of knew what it was, but

475
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.519
I mean, it's spooped us because I thought, you know,

476
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.240
she was watched next you know, and but that had happened,

477
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:03.720
you know, quite quite honestly, they there is every year.

478
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.480
Well as time went on, the one thing I did

479
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:13.559
notice around here was the fact that we didn't have

480
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:19.280
activity twelve months of the year. Nothing in the wintertime

481
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:24.719
that we ever recollected nothing, I mean nothing. It was

482
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:31.280
like mid to late summer and the fall was when

483
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.599
we would see eye shine. We'd hear howls off in

484
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:42.880
the distance and a couple of woods, but it was

485
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.480
never in the wintertime. Never did get any activity in

486
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:51.760
the wintertime. And we don't live too awful far from

487
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:56.800
the Spokane Indian Red Station. And I was talking. I

488
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.239
know a lot of people there. I used to do

489
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.280
a lot of work form that on engines and stuff.

490
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.119
And uh, I was talking to a couple of old

491
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:12.360
elders and the old one of their rangers, and they said, well,

492
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:17.719
you know, they said they used to follow the tribe,

493
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:21.079
you know, a couple of hundred years ago, because it

494
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.119
was kind of like nomadic. They would they called it

495
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:28.119
the food trail, and they said it would usually start

496
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.840
around the Spokane River area, and then the tribe would

497
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.760
go down to like for the confluence of the Columbian

498
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.840
Spokane River is and then they'd follow the Columbia River

499
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:46.639
up to like the Kettle Falls area, and then whatever

500
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:48.719
time of the year it was, they'd come back down

501
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.519
to a corridor and that and that was the way

502
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.280
the Indians done it back then. They was, you know,

503
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.719
followed the food trail. And if you know anything about

504
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:06.559
the Kettle Falls and the highway twenty five River Road

505
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.519
along there. Even though we're up in the Huckleberry Mountains,

506
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:18.800
there's orchards up there, there's vineyards, and you know yourself

507
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.599
have a growth season like that. You're in the banana belt,

508
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.400
So it makes sense that your food is going to

509
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.639
be more plentful up that way towards the winter months

510
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.960
and that. And I'm thinking because of the fish in

511
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:42.119
the river and the cricks and the vegetation in that, Yeah,

512
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.880
makes sense to what they was telling me about the

513
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.639
way that the Spokane dribe used to travel for their

514
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.639
food sources, and that because this all used to be

515
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.039
there land in the first place, you know, before the

516
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.079
Europeans come in, you stole it away from them. And

517
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.360
oh golly, there's just so many stories here at Jeremiah

518
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.519
that I know I'm missing a lot, but we're gonna

519
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.840
We're gonna fast forward again. I think it was the

520
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:16.519
year of COVID, which, if I remember, I was twenty nineteen.

521
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.840
My wife and I had a liver board big cruiser

522
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.559
that we kept down at two Rivers Marina. They're a

523
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:32.079
confluence of the Spokane and Columbia Rivers and we literally

524
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.760
lived on at about sixty five percent of the time.

525
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.239
And I remember one day she had a lot of

526
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:42.239
stuff she had to do in Spokane, and I said,

527
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.519
and I stayed at home. I said, well, I'm going

528
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.239
to pack the truck up, and we were going to

529
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.760
go on an eight day cruise up George Cooley Dam

530
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:51.960
and then turn around, come back and go up towards

531
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:59.000
Canada with it fuel providing. It wasn't an economy both

532
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.519
by any mean. It had to twin chevrolets in it,

533
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:05.079
and as long as you kept the trottles down on it,

534
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.400
you did all right. But she still swallowed up a

535
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.800
lot of gas. But anyways, I got a real light

536
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.559
start by the time I got foods and everything packed

537
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.199
up in the truck, and I left out of here

538
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:21.559
about midnight. Well, my wife' has already gone down, had

539
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.920
already been down the boat and was waiting for me.

540
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:31.519
And I went across Hunter's Pass. So that's how I

541
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.519
used to go across Hunters Pass, over the Hunters the

542
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:41.320
town of Hunters turned on twenty five, and left there

543
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:43.559
on twenty five and then head down to the marina.

544
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.199
It was longally thirty five minutes away. Some morning. He

545
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.039
lived as long as I kept my foot out of it.

546
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:57.559
But I got across Hunter's Pass. I made it about

547
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.880
three eighths of a mile from the summit down the

548
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.639
other side, and there come around a left hand corner

549
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.920
and there's a straightaway that's like, I don't know too

550
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:16.519
six hundred foot long, maybe seven hundred foot And at

551
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:18.920
the bottom of that straightaway they got one of them

552
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:27.719
reflective curve signs. To the right. Well, ironically, on the uh,

553
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.280
well let's call it the south side of the highway.

554
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.280
There's a trick that goes through there. There's a big

555
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.800
old pond out there, there is an old dirt road,

556
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:43.880
and there's a dilapidated cabin in this area. I mean,

557
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.360
I don't think anybody lived there in a hundred years,

558
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:51.039
you know. But as I come around that corner and

559
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:58.719
my lights, my lights hit the reflective curve sign. All

560
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.719
of a sudden, I'm looking kind of at the bottom

561
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.920
of that sign back a few yards. I see what

562
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.239
it's done. Paint to laugh. It looks like three skunks

563
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:17.400
hopping across the dang highway. It's going at an angle

564
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.159
from left to right, or excuse me, from right to left,

565
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.599
at an angle downhill to that towards Zach Creek and

566
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.639
Pond area, and I'm going that that can't be And

567
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.440
then it dawned on me what it was. I couldn't

568
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.360
see any any I mean, it was black. It was

569
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.599
black black out that night, dark black. I couldn't see

570
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:50.280
anything of legs, upper body or anything, nothing whatsoever. And

571
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.320
I had my high beams on and what I figured

572
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.440
it was, or figured out it was as this same

573
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:03.519
step they Since then i've seen that they stepped twenty

574
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:07.960
they as they stepped, they raised their feet up really

575
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.639
high to the back. What I was seeing was the

576
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:17.960
soles of their feet reflecting off in the headlights, kind

577
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.000
of like that sign was. And like I said, it

578
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.559
took three steps, which I bought three stone hops, and

579
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.760
it was across the road and gone. And that spooked

580
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:39.880
me pretty good. But now in twenty I see it's

581
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.719
twenty twenty six. As that happened to. My son was here.

582
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:48.800
I'd asked him what here it was, But did come

583
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:54.400
home late one night about eleven thirty twelve o'clock, and

584
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.360
he had already been spoofed down there at the shop

585
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.639
because it seemed like every time he went down there

586
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.000
and open the door, you know, rocks would either hit

587
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.519
the back of the shop or bounce off the top.

588
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.880
Was nothing violent by any means. They're just like, hello,

589
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:14.119
we're here, you know. And anyways, he pulled up to

590
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.199
the house up here and he'd heard his engine. He

591
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.159
had heard something of the hood make the noise. So

592
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.840
he bopped the hood and was shining his little bitty

593
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.840
flashlight down. He saw where he had prayed the serpentine

594
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:33.239
belt on the engine, and it was making a fucking noise. Well,

595
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.320
the engine was sitting there running and all of a sudden,

596
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.920
there's a little bitty from the size rocks bouncing by him.

597
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:47.239
He goes, okay, heck, and he looks and now, Jeremiah,

598
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.519
they were not being thrown. They were just being it

599
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.280
was almost like this flicking the lumbs or just tossing them.

600
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.480
They weren't being you know, mean or nothing like that.

601
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.079
And he's gonna, what the heck, And here comes another

602
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:05.800
one lands at the back of his car, and he

603
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.079
watches it bouncing the driveway there and here comes another one,

604
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.559
and so he shines the light up. And it scared him, Jeremiah,

605
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.920
because there was not just two eyeballs reflecting bad back

606
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.760
at him, but there was. There were two pairs of him,

607
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.400
and they was roughly We ended up measuring it off

608
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:33.400
the next day, roughly eighty five feet back from the

609
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:37.480
driveway and kind of up on the hill. And he

610
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.199
come running in the house and I hadn't gone to

611
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:46.679
bed yet, and he said, Dad, Dad, Dad, something's throwing

612
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.920
rocks at me. I go, what do you mean, throwing rocks?

613
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.360
He said, something's throwing rocks at me. And I've seen

614
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.079
eyes shining back. So I grabbed him an odd six

615
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:02.800
that I keep mustached in the corner just for uninvited guests,

616
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.559
and uh, I grabbed that, and he had his little

617
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.480
flash light. We stepped out there and the porch light

618
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:16.480
from the car port. I think it's what was reflecting

619
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.920
their their eyes, because it did. It almost looked illuminated.

620
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.159
He said, right back there, and we had to step

621
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.119
out to his car to see around this one bull

622
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:33.320
pine and sure enough, it looks like and I'm exaggerating

623
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.239
on the diameter, but it looked like two fifty seven

624
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.280
board tail lights, so one on the each side of

625
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.280
a pine tree looking back at us, except they were

626
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.679
I'm going to guess, probably as big around as a

627
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.119
pop can. Uh. Probably what two in a quarter inch

628
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.159
diameter or something like that. The two pairs were separated

629
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.480
by another bullpine. It was about twenty five foot tall.

630
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:06.400
Now we could see the outline of the creatures. We

631
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.840
couldn't make a definite, you know, I couldn't tell you

632
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.880
what their faces looked like. We could only see an

633
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:20.920
outline in the moonlight. And I did something that I

634
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.880
really regret, I really do, because they weren't being honoring.

635
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.320
They weren't, you know, if they if they wanted to

636
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.440
kill that boy, all they would have had done was

637
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.199
to probably take four or five steps and he would

638
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.840
have been a lunch And I really feel bad for

639
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:42.840
what I've done. But Jeremiah, if I may said I

640
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:48.000
was scared, you might say I was scared to death.

641
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:51.239
And I threw that off six up. I said, keep

642
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.119
your light on it. It was just one of these

643
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.280
little bitty pen lights that didn't shine much. And I

644
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.519
wasn't gonna kill him. I just wanted him gone. I

645
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.480
wanted them gone. You scared me, You've done your deal,

646
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.559
get out of here. And so I shot above each

647
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:11.320
one's head, which happened so fast, and then I've regretted it,

648
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.719
But yeah, they turned tail and run and we could

649
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.480
hear them. We could hear the ground thuds and that,

650
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:25.880
and Jake shut his hood, shut his car off, and

651
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.079
we just went back in the house. And next morning

652
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.800
we went out there in broad daylight and took a

653
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.239
tape major with us, and I said, you stand over

654
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:39.480
yonder behind your car, and I said, you remember where

655
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.679
each one of them eyeballs was, right, and you go down.

656
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.719
And I said, I'm gonna stand over here at the

657
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:52.119
tape major, and you tell me where about was each

658
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:56.320
set of eyeballs. So I went to the lowest side first,

659
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.360
and needle to say, these these pairs of eye balls

660
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.559
was about eight foot apart. One was standing on the

661
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.079
bottom side of the tree. The other one was standing

662
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.280
on the other side. The one on the bottom side

663
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.480
of the tree, we figured when he had me stop

664
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.320
the tape, we figured it to be nine and a

665
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.679
half foot the one on the upper side where the

666
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.400
eyeballs was, because the eyeballs looked right straight across from

667
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.840
each other, but there was a difference in altitude on

668
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:32.119
that little hillside there eight put apart kind of steep,

669
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:34.760
and so we figured that the one that was standing

670
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.360
on the top side was somewhere around eight feet because

671
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.719
of the the lay of the land there, But that

672
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.880
was outside of what I saw was three stumps hopping

673
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.920
across the Hunters Road there on the other side of

674
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:54.960
Hunter's Past. That was the I guess you'd say the

675
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:01.840
second visual encounter was out right there with them too.

676
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.599
And like I said, Jeremiah, I've had a lot of

677
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.320
time to think about it, and I've told my wife,

678
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:10.840
I don't know how many times I said, I just

679
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:15.440
I feel so bad because they weren't doing nothing wrong.

680
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.719
I think they were just having fun time, trying to

681
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:22.159
get my boys attention and say, hey, we're here. How

682
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:29.239
y'all did you know? And but I regret shooting above

683
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:33.719
their heads. I really regret it because, like I said,

684
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:38.880
they wasn't doing nothing wrong. So let's fast forward. And

685
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.840
like I said, I know I'm missing a bunch here

686
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:46.840
at Jeremiah. But let's fast forward to just a few

687
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:56.559
short months ago. It was first week of October. I'd

688
00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:00.119
already put my boat away for the winter time that

689
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.920
gang thing sunk. I had traded it didn't or I'd

690
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.320
traded another boat in on my big one, because I

691
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.280
have my body is so destroyed the back back and

692
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.559
surgeryes and everything that I couldn't even maintain it. So

693
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.519
I took another boat in on trade on it and

694
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.760
things some the first day out, but we retrieved it

695
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:26.880
and got our all fixed back up. But uh, my

696
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:33.360
buddy has a sixteen foot out board, which you don't

697
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.599
have to win arise, and with their self training and

698
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.559
that and to keep taking out and ten blow zero

699
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:42.000
and go fishing, well, we decided to go over to

700
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:49.079
uh the Columbia River do some fishing. Well. We put

701
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.239
in there and hunters. We used that boat launch. Now

702
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.920
I'm not going to tell y'all exactly where it was,

703
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.000
but I'll say this. It's on the west side of

704
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:03.920
the river. It's all in the Paulville Indian Reservation side,

705
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:08.599
let's call it. We'd only been out about half hour

706
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:13.159
because we'd we went ahead and spread across and got

707
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:19.320
over to that side, and we'd already we'd been sold

708
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.960
and already for god an one hour or so. And

709
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.880
then we'd went up to this other little spot where

710
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.079
there's a couple of colds, and so we spun the

711
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.360
boat around and I was letting. I used lead line

712
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:35.159
when I'm going deep and we're about one hundred and

713
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.360
twenty five maybe one hundred and fifty foot off from

714
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.559
the shore, and we're back up in this hidden kind

715
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.679
of cold area, and I was letting the lead line

716
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.960
out and I got I think it was four or

717
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.480
five colors let out, and I slammed the brake shut

718
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.920
on it and put a cigarette on my lips and

719
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.840
lit it and happened to glance up on the the bank.

720
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:08.360
Now this bank area is virtually vertical because it's been eroded,

721
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:10.559
you know, by the Columbia River, and so you got

722
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.039
a vertical bank and it went up probably thirty five

723
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:18.159
forty feet and now mind you were about one hundred

724
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.400
and twenty five to one hundred and thirty five somewhere

725
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.960
around there foot out from bink, and I happened to

726
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:32.920
glance up on the top where the erosion area went

727
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:36.719
on and continued uphill to a small ridge and then

728
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.920
dropped off and went down on the other side, which

729
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.559
formed another ridge to go up, and I'd lit my cigarette.

730
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:47.760
I'm looking up. At about that time I go, what

731
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.280
is that? And about that time the fishing partner saw

732
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.760
where I was looked at and looked up there, and

733
00:51:53.920 --> 00:52:00.719
we just froze. We just froze. And I couldn't tell

734
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.559
you how many said. It was just a matter of

735
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:08.880
a few seconds. And it's really hard to describe because

736
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:13.679
I couldn't believe what I was seeing at first. When

737
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.800
we finally realized, mind you, at this time, both of

738
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.039
our phones are laying in the seats, and we were

739
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.440
both so shocked that do you think we even thought

740
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.440
about trying to get a picture of it. Our phones

741
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.639
was last thing on our minds. We're just staring at

742
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:38.360
this thing. And to describe it, it was not It

743
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.599
wasn't a deep brown. It was kind of a light brown,

744
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:48.480
completely hair covered. I'm talking face and everything. And later

745
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.559
on my partner kinds talking and I joked and I said,

746
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.239
I know what we saw. I said, that would Cousin.

747
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.239
It off the Adams family. He said, you know, he

748
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.559
says outside of Cousin had part of a neck. I

749
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.880
think you're right, and we're just trying to go, well,

750
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.920
you know, hunt the season's here in a week or two.

751
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.119
This is what they call no man's land on the

752
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.239
Calville tribe. There ain't no houses. I don't even think

753
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:23.639
they've been a road over there in fifty years. And

754
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:27.159
we're just going what could that have end? Because it

755
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.880
actually it only took a few seconds when we looked,

756
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:33.920
when my eyes had met it and his eyes had

757
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.320
met it. This thing, the whole body was like it

758
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.440
was on a lazy Susan. Now, mind you, because it

759
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.840
was standing on the other side of that small ridge.

760
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:50.800
We couldn't see all at least from halfway up to

761
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:54.400
the hip. We couldn't see that. We couldn't see the

762
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.519
bottom up. We couldn't see no legs or nothing. All

763
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.960
we saw was probably the top and I'm probably exaggerating it,

764
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:05.800
the top two thirds of it. We couldn't even see arms.

765
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.280
It was like, like I said, it was like looking

766
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.360
at cousin it. But you could see the whole thing

767
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:18.199
turned and it made about four steps, and it was

768
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.079
making those steps. It was actually going down because of

769
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.039
that little ridge area and then going down into a

770
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.320
provssa or whatever you want to call them, a little

771
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:33.119
a mini allar how that and it stopped. The body

772
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:38.280
turned what we could see the I guess you called

773
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:43.400
it the shoulder area, turned back, looked, turned back around,

774
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:48.039
and then disappeared. Made its way into the timber land

775
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:53.559
from that little area. But when we got home, Jeremiah,

776
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:56.519
I even went online. I thought, couldn't that have been

777
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.760
a guy at a gilla suit? You know, because I

778
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:03.719
seeing gilly suits, real expensive ones that kind of looked

779
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:08.760
like that. But my partner and I couldn't figure out why,

780
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:13.239
by happen stance there would be a feller in a

781
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:18.639
gilly suit in this area kidden from the main Columbia

782
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.800
back in the colause there was we were the only

783
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:31.639
uh truck and boat trailer in excuse me, the parking

784
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.360
lot that day. We were the only ones there and so,

785
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.639
uh yeah, it was midweek and we're just rackinger. Could

786
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.159
it have been somebody in a guilly suit? And I'm going, man,

787
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:48.199
I said, I don't think so, because I said, why

788
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.440
would somebody be standing out there in a gilly suit

789
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.199
with the happenstance of some two idiots in a fishing

790
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:59.119
boat just happened to get back into this hidden haller

791
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:03.559
to drop the lines, And so I said no, I said,

792
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.840
I don't think so. I said, I think it was

793
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.880
the name squad and I said it was broad daylight.

794
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.360
It was now once again uh yard aage away from

795
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.679
us being so we was that far out in the water,

796
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.360
and like I said, I'm just gonna we will use

797
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.679
one hundred and thirty five feet away from the bank.

798
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.400
It was in seventy foot of water. Where it was

799
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:36.199
was right at I'm gonna say one hundred Darling, one

800
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:40.079
hundred and seventy five to two hundred yards Jeremiah. So no,

801
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.679
we we wasn't that close and personal. But you could

802
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.559
see that it was well, you could see the color

803
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.920
for sure, and it looked mad at you know. But

804
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:55.079
what was weird was the fast that the hair just

805
00:56:55.159 --> 00:57:03.199
covered its entire face and it was a nicole large

806
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:09.400
heads setting on top of shoulders that it all just

807
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.199
tapered down from the point of its head clear out

808
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:17.039
to it what you'd call shoulders. It just tapered, tapered down.

809
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:22.320
It wasn't like the Neanderthal one that folk see. And

810
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:28.079
needless to say, I have suspected that there because I have,

811
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.800
you know, I've been you know, learning about these triers

812
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:38.599
and that for decades, and I've heard so many different descriptions.

813
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.440
I've heard of descriptions where they look like an ape.

814
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:48.760
I've had descriptions where they look like a Neanderthal. I've

815
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:55.079
had descriptions of just various types, and I'd come to

816
00:57:55.199 --> 00:58:02.079
the conclusion that there are maybe just different species of sasquatch.

817
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:06.639
And it was kind of confirmed because I was listened.

818
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.880
I don't know if it was your podcast or another

819
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:12.960
that I was listening to, but they had a civil

820
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.920
engineer that worked with Areonautical Department. I mean he actually

821
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:18.000
worked with NASA.

822
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:22.880
Oh yeah, mister Kombo probably is who you're talking about.

823
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:27.039
Is it where he decided that there was like three

824
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:32.679
types of sasquatch? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, brother, I'm

825
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.039
thinking there's different types because you got ones that people

826
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:39.880
swear up and down with a gorilla now personally. And

827
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:44.480
you know that picture of the red orange thing down

828
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:48.039
in Florida that they call the swampy. It's been around

829
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:51.719
so many decades, if you ask me, that is an

830
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:56.119
orangutan that was escaped from one of them sues that

831
00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:00.199
was run down and they are placed where they took

832
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.679
the animals from circuses. Now when they're getting all that

833
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:09.000
that just has I mean it looks like an orangutand

834
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:12.559
of me, I mean here and simple. But now when

835
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.880
you start talking about the creators that are getting up there,

836
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:21.840
so it's nine foot tall have different stories. Absolutely, I

837
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.719
really that that fella there, I really can believe that

838
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:29.639
he was honest something when he come up with the

839
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:34.679
three or four types of them creators. I myself now

840
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:36.719
when it comes to the dog man, I think that's

841
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:38.800
just a demon from hell, to be honest.

842
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.840
With you, I mean, there's nothing good about that. There's

843
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.559
one hundred percent nothing good about that guy. So, but

844
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.840
I got a question for you about your your sighting,

845
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:54.800
if you mind. So after you saw that, what was

846
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.559
your emotional state like for the rest of the day.

847
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.440
Now the one for my money and I was fishing.

848
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:08.960
I have had no fear whatsoever. I tell you what

849
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:12.760
I was calm cool. I was the kool aid kid man.

850
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.519
I was just calm, cool and collected. I wasn't one

851
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:21.119
bit scared. In fact. After that, and when it disappeared,

852
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.440
we ash and grew in our kinds and pulled the

853
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.760
boat back up to one COVID. I'm looking for tracks,

854
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.280
because I said, I got a puny of other kid

855
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.880
might have been down here getting some fisture from crawdads

856
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.239
in one of these coves and that, and we put

857
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:42.599
the boat. No, I had absolutely no fear whatsoever unlike

858
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:47.159
the ones that we've seen that offer our driveway and

859
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.480
the one that bellard at me, which I never saw it.

860
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.840
It put the fear of God in me, to be

861
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.880
honest with the Jeremiah, the ones out here, the I took.

862
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:00.960
The part that scared the rap out of me was

863
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.559
the fact of how big the outlines were. Because these

864
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:10.679
things were huge. They were they were enormous. They were huge, Jeremiah,

865
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:14.400
and I think that's what scared me out there. And

866
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.599
like I said, I felt I felt like the smallest

867
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:22.280
man on God's green earth when I shot above their heads,

868
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:25.960
and it was it was out of fear because of

869
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:30.320
the size of them. I mean, good God, it'd be

870
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:35.400
like standing next to a freight train, you know, just huge. Uh.

871
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.679
My wife and I now, well see, like I said,

872
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:41.679
I really should have been looking through my notes because

873
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:46.480
I've missed about half of it. My my, my beautiful wife,

874
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:48.480
and I was at the top of our property and

875
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:51.639
I was showing her where i'd cleaned up for uh.

876
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.159
We'd had a bunch of old cars and stuff that

877
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.239
and I wanted to get him out of here, and uh,

878
01:01:57.960 --> 01:01:59.880
I cleaned up the series and she was showing me

879
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.159
where she wanted me to put in a track for

880
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.320
the four wheeler for the grandkids. So we got three

881
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:11.000
grandkids who lived with us. And oh, that's another story.

882
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:15.280
I'll tell you they actually seen one. But anyway, we're

883
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.239
up there. We just got out of the little pick

884
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.840
up and we had started to walk towards the tree

885
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:27.039
line a little bit and we got hollered at. Now,

886
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:31.559
it wasn't as loud or as long as the one

887
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:34.519
that got me back in nineteen ninety down by the

888
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:40.519
beaver Dam, but it bowardered that it was that dumb

889
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:46.199
elephant trunk lion roar. And my beautiful wife looked at

890
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:48.320
me and she said, I don't think we should be there.

891
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:51.679
I said, yeah, let's go, and we got in the

892
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:55.280
trunk come back down to the house. But last summer,

893
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:02.039
last summer, and I can't remember because we tried to

894
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:07.079
spend our summers in the motor home down at a

895
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:12.199
very special place on the river, so we're not here

896
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:18.280
a lot. But it had to have been, oh shoot,

897
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:21.000
it had to have been the last of June or

898
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:25.000
the first of July. I honestly can't can't put my

899
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:29.320
finger on it. But the two year old was in

900
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:35.000
the house of Gramma, and at that time they were

901
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:38.920
six or five and six, and now they're six and seven.

902
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.920
But I have a thin skin, small front yard, chain

903
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:50.079
length dated and they've got their swing sets and their

904
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:54.159
yard toys and all sorts of fun stuff for kids

905
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:59.280
out there, and it's attached right to our front covered

906
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:03.440
deck and that way, you know, no triggers can get

907
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:05.559
into them or nothing like that, you know. And I'm

908
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.800
talking you know, kyles, cats, what have you, which we

909
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:14.679
we've got plenty of around here. But the u my

910
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:23.360
granddaughter and grandson started screaming and they both shots up.

911
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:25.760
There's gonna rip scream door off the front of the house,

912
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.880
come in screaming that they saw bigfoot. They saw bigfoot.

913
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:40.039
And I'm relaying this from what Grandma and the kids

914
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.519
told me. I didn't get home for shoot. It was

915
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:45.480
a couple hours later when I got home and was

916
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:51.440
telling me about it. But they had, uh. The two

917
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:54.480
of them was in the front yard on the trampoline

918
01:04:55.840 --> 01:05:00.880
and they was facing the neighbor's property, which is about

919
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:05.039
six five hundred and fifty foot away, and they saw

920
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.920
a bike beedle and they just said he's running by

921
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:14.079
able a man dad or a hair covered man Grandpa,

922
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.039
And it came out of the timber on that side,

923
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:24.079
ran across the field here and then into the timber

924
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:28.440
on the north side. It didn't stop, it didn't slow down,

925
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:32.039
it didn't look at him, they said. But my granddaughter

926
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:35.360
actually drew a picture of it, and it kind of

927
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:39.400
reminded me of the By looking at it, it kind

928
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:44.320
of reminded me of that gim One film and that.

929
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:50.880
But I knew I was forgetting something here. We have

930
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:55.559
not been the only ones that had sightings during the day.

931
01:05:56.199 --> 01:06:00.760
This is an important one. We got neighbors. It has

932
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:05.199
a farm to the south of US. I can't tell

933
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:08.760
their names. And since then she was scared so bad

934
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.639
that they ended up selling the farm and moving because

935
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:15.840
she got so scared. One morning, about nine o'clock, she

936
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:20.880
was vacuuming her living room and her floor started vibrating.

937
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.559
Her husband's on me this later on, and it was

938
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.960
like something taking big, huge steps, but it was vibrating

939
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.400
the house, and she reached old us the vacuumed off,

940
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:35.360
and just happened to glance out the window when all

941
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:43.000
she could see was a huge left arm and part

942
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:47.679
of a left bigh and leg area. The window didn't

943
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:49.719
go high enough, and the thing was only about eight

944
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.320
foot from their from her window, so she couldn't see

945
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.880
the head, and she couldn't see the feet, but she

946
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.119
saw like from the shoulders down to the knees and

947
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:04.480
then big huge hands and arms swinging. It walked past

948
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:10.480
their house. Now I know she wasn't seeing things because

949
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.320
at that time, my mother in law was living here

950
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:18.320
with us, and about nine o'clock that morning, she was

951
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:22.039
out on the porch swing having a cigarette, and she

952
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:26.639
was staring at the neighbor's pasture where they keep callus

953
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.119
in that and she saw this. When I got home,

954
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.559
she told me. She said it was about nine o'clock

955
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:40.360
and she saw a big, huge brown creature come down

956
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:45.719
lower its head to get under the one tree that's

957
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.840
in the middle of the neighbor's pasture and they keep

958
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:51.400
that trimmed up seven and a half feet by the way.

959
01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:55.000
She said, this thing had to stoop over to clear

960
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:58.159
it with its head, And she said she only sought

961
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:01.840
for a few seconds because it was moving so fast,

962
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.039
taking really long steps. And she said it was just

963
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.960
a matter of a few seconds and it disappeared into

964
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:15.000
the tree. Line and gone. And that night my neighbor's

965
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.119
husband had called me and said, but I got to

966
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:21.680
come down and talk to you. And he came down

967
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:24.880
and told me what his wife had seen and felt.

968
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.279
And I says, and I won't say his name. I said, well,

969
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:34.079
she's not crazy, I says. My mother in law seen

970
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.399
the same bag about the same time this morning, walking

971
01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:39.520
down through there, I said, it Lord has had to

972
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.840
make it under your tree. And we went up there

973
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:44.960
to see if they was any We drove up into

974
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:49.439
his pastor up there to see if there was any footprints.

975
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:54.239
There was actually no prints, but you could see it

976
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.239
where something flattened the grass down and that. But you know,

977
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.399
like I was telling you earlier, this hard band play

978
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:06.119
around here, and when it dries up, you can't put

979
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:10.720
a big accent in it. But yet in April March

980
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.720
you can stump on the ground. It's gonna bubble up,

981
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:16.319
you know. Six seven put away from me and did

982
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.479
like a big old mola pudding hill billy.

983
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:21.720
What was the year that that happened again with your

984
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.079
neighbor and your mother in law.

985
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.439
I'm gonna have to say that was around twenty sixteen.

986
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:31.800
Okay, wow, oh, my goodness.

987
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:40.479
It scared her so bad that they ended andy. I'll

988
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.680
tell you, I didn't think these people would ever move.

989
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:50.600
BA spend thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dollars.

990
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:58.119
He was a carpenter, per se, and they he took

991
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:02.319
an old rundown farmhouse house and he built the most

992
01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:09.479
beautiful I mean the most beautiful dollhouse out of it,

993
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:14.880
and his farms and everything. Uh okay, it's probably the

994
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:18.880
most beautiful home out here. And they just turned her

995
01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:20.840
back on it and they sold it. They got a

996
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:24.239
good price out of it. And I still see him

997
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:26.399
ever now. And in fact, I just ran into him

998
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:29.840
a few days ago there in Deer Park, Washington. And

999
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:37.479
but they bought a uh farm time to the what

1000
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:40.800
would that be? That would be the northwest of Deer Park.

1001
01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.920
And I said, good lord, neighbor, what would you think?

1002
01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:49.479
And I said, they call that Bigfoot Valley. There's a

1003
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:56.199
place uh there in Clayton, Washington. They called Bigfoot Valley

1004
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.720
only because guess who's been seen out there a few

1005
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.199
decades ago? You know what?

1006
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:05.680
Wow, Oh, my goodness.

1007
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.880
They haven't had any visitors since then, since they got

1008
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.880
rid of this place. He said, no, he said. He

1009
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.800
said that just he said, and I won't say her name.

1010
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:23.720
He said, she's never been the same. Oh. Absolutely, it

1011
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:24.720
was scared.

1012
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.720
That bad hill Billy. You have lived a incredible life

1013
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:34.640
when it comes to having to deal with strange encounters

1014
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.239
on your property and having that sighting. Thank you so

1015
01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:39.560
much for sharing what you've experienced.

1016
01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:46.439
Well, you know, my friend, I planned to be honest

1017
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:48.560
with Yes, there was a point in time in my

1018
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:52.640
life I was and it was for the wrong reasons,

1019
01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:56.079
and I'm ashamed of it. But there was a point

1020
01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:58.640
in time in my life, and I think my boys

1021
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:04.960
were about ten, I was planning a hunting trip, if

1022
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:09.000
you know what I mean. I planned to kill one.

1023
01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:13.319
And it was for all the wrong reasons. It was

1024
01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:17.319
for monetary value. I was gonna make my family rich.

1025
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.600
They did have any drag boat race car they wanted,

1026
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:27.920
you know. But it was after Cliff Brockman was talking

1027
01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:34.279
about family units, and all of a sudden, it was

1028
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:39.840
like somebody dumped a buck bucket of hot water over

1029
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.760
me and I did a three sixty, I mean for

1030
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:48.840
one eighty, whatever you want to call it. I had

1031
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:52.000
a different change of attitude. I went, no, my god,

1032
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:54.640
what was I thinking? Why would that? I said, I'd

1033
01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:57.800
be like somebody like them hunting me or my family.

1034
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:02.520
I said, no, these are forest people. The Indians are

1035
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.920
all these correct, these are forest people. They've been here

1036
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.800
longer than any of us as to what they are.

1037
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:13.720
I have my ideas, but even that I'm suspicious on.

1038
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.159
I just don't know. But I know this, I don't

1039
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:20.840
want to mess with. I just want to leave them alone.

1040
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:25.600
If anything, I want to protect them. And I'm ashamed

1041
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:30.079
of myself for ever ever thinking of killing one, or

1042
01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:33.159
for even shooting over their heads because of my stupidity

1043
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:38.960
being scared. I just it's shameful and I'm sorry I've

1044
01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:41.880
ever done it. I'm sorry I ever thought about hunting one.

1045
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.439
Well, I think the important thing is you made the

1046
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.960
right choice and you turned turned it, turned it around,

1047
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.479
as you said, And thank you so much for coming

1048
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:55.479
on the show. And we'll definitely have to to keep

1049
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.840
in touch. It sounds like there could be other things

1050
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.560
going on around area, so but thank you so much

1051
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:03.159
for coming on.

1052
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:09.239
He'll belly. Yeah, you got to remember too, this area

1053
01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:14.079
had a major, major, major fire go through here a

1054
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.960
few years back that went all the way from west

1055
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:20.560
end of the Spokane Indian Reservation clear up to Juela,

1056
01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:24.640
and I think it burnt one of the main corridors

1057
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:29.760
for them because it We just don't have as much

1058
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:32.560
activity as we used to, but we still do, if

1059
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:33.199
you know what I mean.

1060
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:40.079
Absolutely absolutely, Well, thank you again, sir for chatting. We

1061
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:42.159
will definitely be in touch, sir.

1062
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:48.119
That sounds good, my brother, and thank me. Let me

1063
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.680
tell this, like I said, I was going to take

1064
01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:52.239
most of it to my grave with me.

1065
01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:55.359
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1066
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:58.640
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I

1067
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:01.560
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1068
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:06.039
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1069
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.720
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1070
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:14.640
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1071
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:17.880
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1072
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:22.560
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1073
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.239
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1074
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:30.800
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1075
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:37.000
heard anywhere else, because let's just say, sometimes it's well,

1076
01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:39.119
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

1077
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.000
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1078
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:47.159
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1079
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:52.119
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

1080
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:55.279
not only go to the festival, but you can also

1081
01:15:56.199 --> 01:16:02.920
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1082
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:07.680
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

1083
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:11.640
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1084
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:15.319
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

1085
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.520
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1086
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:21.680
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1087
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:24.920
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1088
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:30.079
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1089
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:34.680
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

1090
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:39.479
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

1091
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.279
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1092
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:47.439
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1093
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:53.680
that you guys can can get a little a little

1094
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:57.079
help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope

1095
01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.319
to see you at the booth in Oakridge just year

1096
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:03.680
we can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk

1097
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:06.359
to so many people last year and the year before.

1098
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.199
It is an incredible time. You're not going to want

1099
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:14.479
to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we

1100
01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:17.000
wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to

1101
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.399
a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

1102
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.159
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1103
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:27.119
no one can explain, or if you're a National park

1104
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.359
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1105
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:34.239
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1106
01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:36.840
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

1107
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:40.800
federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something

1108
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:44.479
you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1109
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.920
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1110
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.920
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

1111
01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:54.800
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

1112
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:58.760
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1113
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:02.680
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1114
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:06.279
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1115
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:10.039
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1116
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:13.319
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1117
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:15.800
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1118
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:20.359
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

1119
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.119
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you.

1120
01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:30.039
Even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

1121
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:33.239
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

1122
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:37.520
what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

1123
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:43.439
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1124
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.079
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1125
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:49.319
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

1126
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:51.800
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1127
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:54.800
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

1128
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:58.079
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1129
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1130
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1133
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1136
01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:21.760
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1137
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:24.960
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1138
01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:28.319
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1139
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:30.880
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1140
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1141
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1142
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1143
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1144
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1145
01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:50.840
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1146
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:53.760
your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking

1147
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:55.720
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1148
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:56.119
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