Aug. 17, 2025

An Hour of Terror in the Pine Barrens | New Jersey

An Hour of Terror in the Pine Barrens | New Jersey
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Season 1

What happens when a young girl’s summer afternoon turns into a stand-off with something that shouldn’t exist — right at the edge of the New Jersey Pine Barrens? In this chilling episode, Star recounts the summer day in the early ’90s when she and her mother stood frozen at the window, watching a massive, dark-haired figure pace back and forth behind the backyard pool fence — for nearly an hour. You’ll hear about the uneasy feeling of being watched from the treeline, strange lights streaking across the night sky, and a mysterious elderly couple living deep in the woods who claimed to have fled Germany after the war. From near-death experiences to unexplained phenomena, this is one Pine Barrens encounter you won’t forget.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Tonight's account is from a woman who was just nine

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years old when she lived close to the New Jersey

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Pine Barons. What happened there wasn't just a quick glimpse

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or flash in the night. It's an encounter that would

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change how she felt about the woods forever. And this

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is the story of Star in the day that the

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Pine Barons came to her doorstep. So stay with us,

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all right, Big for Society. I've got the privilege of

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talking to Starr Today Stars a listener of the show,

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and we got connected Stars wanting to share some events

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that happened back in the nineteen nineties around the Pine

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Barons area of New Jersey. So welcome to the show.

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Star.

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How are you doing today?

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I'm good.

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How are you doing great? Doing great? Always fun to

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talk to people about their encounters is a highlight of

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the day for sure. But you know, Star, I'm really

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curious to hear more about what happened during this time

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of your life when you had some experiences in an

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area of New Jersey that is really well known for

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bigfoot encounters over the years.

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I guess I could start by saying, like I had

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just moved into this new neighborhood. I was like nine,

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I think around nine or ten years old, and so

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this is like thirty years ago or more. And it

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was the house had backed up into the woods on

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a on a culd a sac and you know, so

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we really only had one neighbor that kind of neighbored

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us to the one side of our house.

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You know, we really didn't see them.

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There was like a lot of trees in the way,

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so we really didn't even see our neighbors. We you know,

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kind of felt like we lived in the middle of

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the woods.

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Really.

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But yeah, so backed up to the pine barns, which

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I'm not sure if anybody is familiar with the New

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Jersey Pine barons.

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So I think it's like over.

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A million acres or a billion acres of like forest

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that's undeveloped for whatever reason.

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And I guess it's preserved.

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It was preserved, so you know, they just you know,

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did not develop it, and so it's you know, I

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grew up just pretty comfortable running around through the forest.

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It was considered a safe, you know area.

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So my mom just kind of be like, Okay, well,

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if you're out with your friends, like just don't go

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too far, too deep into the.

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Forest kind of thing like.

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And so, you know, pretty much every day every other

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day in the summer, like we'd just be out there

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and we'd make up stories and you know, play whatever

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pretend games out there, and uh, you know, so we really.

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Weren't afraid of anything.

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And then like my older brothers are teenagers, so we'd

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go often off roading things like that with them as well.

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So you know, anyway, so.

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It's pretty pretty comfortable with being out there. And so

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one day I'm like nine or ten, I'm inside the

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house and we were getting ready to go to the

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pool in the backyard, which is the pool is like

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at the far edge of the backyard, like about a

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half acre.

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Out and.

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So my mom's like, oh, you know, clean your room

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before you go out to the pool, like as most

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parents do, and I guess their kids in summer.

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And so I'm just like cleaning my room.

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My mom came in bringing some laundry in whatever, like hearing,

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you know, put away some laundry, and she kind of

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like looks up. It's just me and her. My sister

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I think was at a friend's house. And I think

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my sister doesn't even like believe us to this day.

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But my mom kind of like out of the corner

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of her eye as she's you know, bringing laundry into

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my room, just looks over and it's like like.

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Do you see that, Kelly, Like like is this Like

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she's like, is this some kind of the joke?

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You know, she's kind of like frozen, and you know,

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in fear because she's just a stay at home mom.

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She'sn't you know, really encounter any kind of weird situations.

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So she's just like she was pretty frozen in her footsteps. Kelly,

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look at this. I'm like, Mom, like what, like what

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do you want me to look at?

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Like what?

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And then I look and I'm just like we're both

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kind of like frozen, Like our jaws are just like hitting,

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you know, hit the ground, and like, you know, we're

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just like is it an ape? Is it a bit?

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We're both like we have no idea like what we're

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looking at or like it doesn't look like any sort

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of animal and like, really did something escape from the zoo?

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Like but like but apes aren't that tall kind of thing,

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and you know, and it just kept I would say

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for a half hour an hour is like pacing in

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the backyard back and forth, kind of like by the

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pool area, and uh just was like it was standing

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upright on two legs, but it looked sort of ape

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like and and this is the far edge of our

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of our yard, and of course I wasn't about to

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go out in the yard and really get closer to

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whatever it was, so, you know, especially you know, they

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say if animals come in your yuard, it could mean

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they're sick or or something, right, so we really had

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no idea what were looking at. So after a while

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we were kind of we were frozen in fear, Like

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I just I don't remember ever feeling like really that

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afraid at any kind of animal sighting. So we finally

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decided to call animal control and see, you know, they

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so they came out like inspected the yard in the

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woods and they were out there for a while and

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they didn't see anything. So it just kind of vanished

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and and that's it. And then we were like asking

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people around the area if anybody had seen anything.

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So that was basically it.

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And then just like around that time period, there was

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some strange things that had happened in my life as well.

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Like about a week before that, there.

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Was a few storm and a tree almost fell on me.

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After the day after the storm, I went to go

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to see why the pol pump wouldn't turn on. My

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dad was like at work normally, and my dad would

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do it, but I went to go check because I

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want to go.

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I usually would go swimming every day.

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And I went to go look at it, and the

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tree just my mother came out and screamed just as

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the tree so I moved. She's like, Kelly, move, you know,

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she's screaming from the across the yard. And I moved,

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and then the second I moved, the tree fell a

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few inches from my head on this giant, old pine tree.

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I guess it was, you know, some really massive, massive

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trees were back there, and so I had like just

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gotten out of a way. It was kind of like

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a near death experience, I would say.

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And that had happened.

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And then another night, I was up at like nine

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or ten o'clock and I was playing piano and I

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just remember feeling like I should go look outside, and

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I went to the front door and I looked up

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in the sky and there was sort of like these

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light streaks going across the sky, and you know, my

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family didn't really talk about any strange things like that.

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They're more military and.

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Conservatives, so I just kind of was just like, oh,

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you know, it's probably just my you know, imagination or whatever.

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But now that I hear all the all the stories

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now when I listened to the stories on the podcast,

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that it like makes me wonder because it kind of

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connects all of these different types of things that happened,

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and you know, I wonder what sort of connection it

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could any of it could have been. So those are

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just some of the some of the other occurrences that

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I well, and I did kind of feel like at night,

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I felt that there was like something sort of watching me,

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you know, like my windows in my room kind of

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faced to the woods, and you know, I did feel

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that sense of something you know, out there that I

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think some people say they feel. But I just was

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always kind of told to like kind of like suck

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things up and move on and kind of that kind

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of attitude. So I kind of just dismissed it. And

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you know, it was very artistic. So I channeled a

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lot of things into being creative and into my art,

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you know, to this day, thirty forty years later, I'm

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still pretty creative even my job that I work full time,

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and you know, I work in the arts. So so

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I just kind of like, I never really talked about

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any of these like sort of I guess would be

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considered paranormal situations. But I guess I just channeled it

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more into the art art field, the creativity aspect of

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trying to understand things in the world around us.

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I guess that don't really make any sense. So, you know,

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that's it.

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Some some things I think maybe there just is no answer,

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no answer for I guess, but but I was just

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you know, curious coming on here to see if anybody

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else had stories from the pine barrens and things like that,

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because you know, or even around that time period, if

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there was. So that's pretty much pretty much is.

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Thanks for having me, Yes.

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If I ask you a few questions?

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Yeah, sure, cool?

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Cool? So this is was it early nineties that this

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would have happened.

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Gosh, I'm like forty two, so whatever, take the age

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nine to forty two, so I guess whatever thirty three

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years ago, Yeah.

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Yeah around there, all right, all right, cool, So that

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gives us kind of maybe a more focused view of

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what part of the nineties in the area of the

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Pine Bearings in New Jersey. So when you said you

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would feel like something was watching you a lot, and

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I'm just curious in the room that you would feel

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that were they're coverings on the windows?

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Well, you know, it was considered a safe area in

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that time period. We lived in a nice neighborhood and.

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You know, if you only saw trees in your yard,

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you wouldn't really you wouldn't really think of, you know,

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covering too. You know, there might have been a curtain,

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but it might it wasn't like a blackout curtain or something,

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you know what I mean. You know, we didn't you know,

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if you don't really have a neighbor that can see it,

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and you don't really you know.

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And I'm on the second floor, so I'm not you know, Yeah,

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I don't think.

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I don't think my windows recovered very often. I mean

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maybe occasionally, but and not.

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I don't ask that to be weird, but I do

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ask it because it's a pattern that I have found

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in talking to individuals. Usually it's females around this age

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where they would feel like they're being watched and then

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they would see like a face in the window. Usually

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there would not be like something would be able to

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see through through the window and not really covered up.

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So I was just more getting that for a data

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point for myself. Now, you had a really long time

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to take to see this, as it was pacing for

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thirty to sixty minutes back by the pool. What you saw,

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were you able to to notice any details if there

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was if it was covered with hair, if it was

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not covered with hair in certain parts, any things like that.

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Yeah, I mean from what I could say, it was

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mostly hair and like a dark brown and I couldn't

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really see the face, you know, And I remember like

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also the sort of blurry kind of like some people say,

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looks the blurry.

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Or fuzzy or I don't know whatever. Yeah, maybe because.

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Of the hair. But it was our yard was actually

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quite big, and it was at the far edge, you know,

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of the yard, and there was also there was a

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fence around the pool because people in that neighborhood put

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fences around their pool for safety reasons, so it was

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behind the fence. But it was tall, so like I

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was like, oh, there's no way, like an ape is

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that tall?

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You know what I mean?

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Like it was probably i'd say at least six foot

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tall because I had them, because I could take an

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eyeball measurement from the size of the fence and being

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able to see it, you know, a few feet over

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the fence.

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So gotcha, gotcha If that.

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Makes any sense, Like we didn't really have a fence

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around our yard, but we only had a fence around

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the pool.

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Part of the yard. Totally makes sense.

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Yeah, yeah, you said it was walking back and forth

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on two legs. Did you notice that it had a

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certain type of posture as it was walking, or a

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certain way of walking.

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Yeah, I was like kind.

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Of slouched and like swinging the arms and like we

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kind of were like is it a man in like

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a furry suit? It was like kind of you know,

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it was like we're like my mom like, actually, I

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think called my brothers, like my my older brothers are

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like living away and like other they were grown up

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and like you know at that point and living on

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their own, and my mom's like calling them and like

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did you just prank up us?

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You know, They're just like what, like what are you

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talking about?

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You know, so they it was definitely not a prime

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you know, she thought like honestly.

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Though, it was like them or their friends or something.

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Because my brothers were like in their twenties at that time,

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you know, so they're kind of like in that age

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that might do a silly.

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Prank, but you know exactly, that might put on a

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on a costume, yeah, and try to prank their parents.

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Absolutely did you were you able to go back in

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that area afterwards and see if there are any tracks

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or anything on the ground.

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I think we might have. I I was actually kind

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of scared.

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I really didn't even go in my pool for a

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few weeks after that. But I mean I think my

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mom or like the animal control might have I don't.

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I don't really recall anything.

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You know. I was still kind of a kid, so

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I don't I think I was.

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If I was a teenager that happened, I probably would

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have been more astute to, you know, go look for.

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Tracks or something, but you know, I kind of so unfortunately.

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Yeah, no, I mean that makes sense that time of

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your life, you know, you're just kind of freaked out.

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I mean, it makes total sense.

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Yeah, it was just more freaked out, and like I

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just remember, like my sister didn't see it happen, and

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like she kind of still went swimming in the pool

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and she was like, come on, Like I was like, no,

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I'm good. Like I'm just gonna say I'm going to

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stay inside and like read a book today, you know.

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And it's funny because I did kind of become more

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into playing the piano and art and things after that

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because I kind of like more freaked out to be

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outside and hang out with my friends. Honestly, they would

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kind of my friends would come over and end up

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hanging out with my little sister because I was like

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kind of spooked out by.

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The whole thing.

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Oh wow, So you know, ironically, I mean, really this

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didn't just wreak you out, but it kind of changed

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the course of your life in a way.

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It might have, you know, now that I'm really thinking

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about it, it's very well could have been part of it.

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Yeah, that's intense. When you said that you were looking

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up in the sky and you saw light streaks, is

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that meaning that you're seeing things flying around or what exactly?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, I saw literally like quick flashes going the sky.

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And then I had kind of believed a little bit

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in fairy and folklore as a kid and superstition, and

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I thought oh, I'm seeing fairies, and I, you know,

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would make paintings at fairies and things. And my mother,

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if I would have said something like that, would would

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have said it was demons. That would have been my

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mother's explanations. So I really didn't like her explanation. She

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always would go to a dark place, So I really

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didn't open up too much more about anything, if at all,

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because you know, she always would take things and go

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to a really dark place with everything and just saying like, oh,

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it's always Satan, it's always demons. But I kind of

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was more the whimsical and like folklore explanation, uh, you

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know things. And but now when I hear about people

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seeing aliens and lights and flashing like you know, then

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maybe I think maybe that's what I was seeing.

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There could have been a.

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Portal there very well could have been. And it's strange

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that I'd be, like playing piano really calm. My mother

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said that I was always very oddly calm as a child,

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like very odd, like like I was born and like

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she just like she said, she never had to discipline

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me or you know, like some kids you might have

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to say if you behave at church, and I'll give

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you a lollipop or something, you know, and she just

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said that I always just did whatever I was told.

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The first time I get, you know, things like that,

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she said, it was just very strang I always had

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like a strange you know. She's like, you never really

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acted out or anything as a little kid.

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I did as a older kid.

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But anyway, but you know, she always said that. And

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then so I was sitting there, I'm like nine, I'm

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playing piano.

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I was advanced.

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I would be playing like classical music and I'd just

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be sitting there and doing that for hours, kind of

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in a meditative state. And that's when I would get

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this inclination to go look outside, you know. And I

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would look outside and I'd be like, hmm, that's interesting.

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It kind of like rub my eyes and think, oh,

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it's probably like sleep in my.

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Eyes, you know, kind of fing you know, or or

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it's a fairy you know. Maybe.

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So it kind of just like I said, I didn't

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really open up too much to my people around me

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because I was like, they're gonna just think I'm like

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totally nuts.

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Was there? Then? As you grew older, it's something that

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happened to you that that made you realize Okay, it's

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it's okay to open up about this stuff now.

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Yeah, I mean definitely, It's funny like over the years,

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like in the last twenty years or so, I mean

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I've had I've run into like coworkers and things like

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that that I've like mentioned stories about this, and I'm

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kind of like, hmmm, like that's interesting. You know, I've

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always and I'll always like listen to them and I

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keep an open mind. And then I kind of like

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just over the years kind of have been and then

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I kind of after a while, I started thinking like, oh,

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you know, things like that have happened to me before too,

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and like I don't I didn't like really think of

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it at first, you know, because it was so far

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far back, you know, in my childhood. So you know,

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definitely like more to what needs ce I, you know,

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And I mean, I don't know if you want me

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to include the story there was like this old couple

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like literally living in the woods.

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I don't know if you want me to go into

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that story. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know if you want

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me to.

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I was like, how, I don't know how far deep

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you want to go down the rabbit hole? But yeah,

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so so we would always go hiking, like I said,

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every day, Like we would just go out into my backyard.

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My mom would just be like, well, don't go food

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too far out, like, don't go too far out.

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I'm with like a group of girls, and some of

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us would sort of dare the other go further or whatever,

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you know, And so we go out maybe a mile back,

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you know, I don't you know, I really couldn't be sure,

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but we were definitely going further than what my mother

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probably would have wanted. And so there was like sounds

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like a story like Hansel and Gretel. So there was

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like literally just like an old house. It didn't really

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match the houses in our neighborhood that were probably built

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in the eighties or nineties or whatever, and this house

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was probably you know, the eighteen hundreds or whatever. You know,

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I really couldn't say for sure, but for sure, you know,

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one hundred years or more older than the houses in

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my neighborhood. So further out in the woods, and we

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were like there was vines growing on it, and so

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we like we're like, oh, it's a haunted house, you know,

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and we're just giggling and having a chuckle and messing

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with each other, you know, because we didn't see a

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driveway and everything was overgrown. The yard was kind of

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overgrown looking, and you know, we're thinking, there's no way,

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like why would somebody live all the way out in

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the middle of the woods.

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You know, it seems so inconvenient.

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So you know, we just kind of go out, and

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every time we'd go out, we'd probably get a little closer.

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We'd throw a rock at it.

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You know, see if the ghost would come out, kind

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of thing, because we literally just assumed it was. It

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looked like an abandoned house, you know, so we're thinking,

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like you know, like kids will throw a stick, you know,

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and then run and like see if the demon comes.

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Out or whatever it was.

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You know, we just make up pretend stories, like kids

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don't really do anymore, right, And so one day we're

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out there and it was probably two or three of

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my friends are with me, and this, you know, we

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saw somebody, like we saw the door open or whatever.

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So like, no way. We're like practically like you know,

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poop in our pants or whatever. We're like, there's no

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way there's somebody coming out, you know, coming out of

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this house. Because here we had like been messing around

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for a while and thinking like, there's got it.

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There's nobody there. There's got to be nobody.

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There, And so we go back and tell my dad,

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and my dad happened to.

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Be home that day.

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He was usually at work, but we finally he must

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have had a day off finally and he was home

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and he goes, you guys are like, there's nobody.

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There's nobody who lives out in the woods.

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And we're like no, because there was like four of

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us like telling them, so it was only me saying it.

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He probably wouldn't even believed it, but it's literally like

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four of us kids all saying it, and we're like, no,

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there's definitely somebody there, Like the door opened, there's like

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somebody living in our woods behind our house. And he's like,

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that's not even like you know, property where somebody could live,

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like that's owned by such and such or whatever. You know,

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I don't know, like why would somebody live out there

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on that land. So it's really really strange. So he

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goes out and he hikes back out there with us

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and he knocks on the door and we're like we're

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like hiding in the woods. We're like we're not going closer,

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you know, because we're thinking like a freaking like a

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devil or some murderer is going to open the door.

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We don't you know, we don't know.

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Like like this is really freaky, and this like sweet

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old man opens the door, like eighty something years old

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and his like sister, he lives with his sister there,

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and they're old.

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They're really old.

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And they said they had escaped Germany during the war,

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so that's all, you know. And then my dad like

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goes in and like talks to them because he's like whatever,

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you know, having a whole chat with them and like

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just to make sure they're okay.

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He's like, do you guys need groceries? Like are you okay?

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Because they were older, so he was like worried about them,

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you know. He's like, how how do you guys like

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live out here?

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You know?

474
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:32.640
And they're like, oh, we eat the berries and things.

475
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.039
So there's like a lot of berry I guess wild

476
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.079
berries that grow around there. So that's what they said

477
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:44.000
they do. So I don't know, they said they they're

478
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.000
just living out there, like totally fine.

479
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:52.119
It's wild because you said escape Germany from the war,

480
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:58.559
which what that's like forties, right, I guess I would

481
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:00.000
guess that's what they're talking about.

482
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.559
And if they're in there, if they're in their eighties,

483
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.279
and that was in the nineties, I guess. So yeah,

484
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.319
I guess if you do the math right, then I

485
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.759
guess they would have left after like World War two,

486
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.480
when the fall of Germany or whatever. You know.

487
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.440
Oh man, they could in their thirties and then they've

488
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.640
just been in the woods for years and years and years.

489
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:29.400
Yeah, it's so fascinating. So then I did go back.

490
00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:33.480
So I went back, because when did I go back,

491
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.400
Maybe ten or fifteen years ago. I did hike back

492
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.000
to the woods, and I said, you got to see

493
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:39.960
this house in the middle of the woods. I'm sure

494
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.960
the people are passed away now, but I went to

495
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.039
go back and because they would have been like one

496
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.359
hundred and twenty years old at this point or something, right,

497
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.119
So I went back and it's gone and there's just

498
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.440
like a housing development where that where that house once was.

499
00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.359
And I was like, oh man, like that was oh

500
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:05.519
you know, so I did. I did finally, like you know,

501
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.720
I think I've might have been in my thirties, you know,

502
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.119
And I finally was like you got.

503
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:11.680
To come Mike out in the woods. You won't believe

504
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:12.440
what's out here.

505
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:16.240
And then like literally it was just like freaking houses there,

506
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:21.079
like you know, some crappy so some somebody, somebody's house

507
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.079
is now on top of that weird house where these

508
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:25.599
people I.

509
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.480
Don't know, you know what I mean, Like it's weird.

510
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.680
Somebody's now living in like one of you know those

511
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.079
developments where all the houses look the same.

512
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.240
Oh yeah, and they have no idea, they have no

513
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:38.119
and they have no idea.

514
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:43.839
They're just like on some of this weird house. Mm hmmm.

515
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.160
They're probably having like weird stuff happened in the house.

516
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:49.240
They don't know why.

517
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:52.079
They have no idea.

518
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.240
I don't know what the real story, and there's got

519
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.480
to be a real story whatever, the real story is

520
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:57.960
behind that.

521
00:26:58.039 --> 00:26:59.759
But like, well, never, we're never gonna.

522
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:03.880
Know that, you know, anyway, unless someone knows and puts

523
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.319
it in the comments. Maybe someone does know, but maybe

524
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.920
somebody does now that would be awesome. But yeah, I mean,

525
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.440
oh my god, start thank you so much for reaching

526
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.880
out to share what you've experienced near the Pine barrens.

527
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.440
I'm sure there'll be you know, lots of people that

528
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.240
are able to put things they've experienced in the comments

529
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.079
as well. There's usually tons of activity around the area.

530
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.359
The Pine Barans was just about one point one million acres.

531
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:35.279
It's it's massive. But yeah, I just want to make

532
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.440
sure you that you were able to share everything that

533
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:39.519
you wanted to share on the show today.

534
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.720
Yeah, I think so. Thank you so much.

535
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.480
Yeah, that was all my little, my weird paranormal experiences

536
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.839
in the pine barrens. So I will keep you guys

537
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.319
posted if anything else happens, but.

538
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.960
Not to you know anyway, fantastic.

539
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.799
Yeah, thanks having mind and hopefully nothing else happens, but

540
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:05.559
if it does, you know who to talk to and

541
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.440
have a great rest of your day. Star, I appreciate it.

542
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.319
Okay, all right, thank you you too. All right, bye.

543
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:17.079
Just wanted to say thank you for listening to this

544
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.240
episode of The Big Society podcast. Star story is one

545
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.960
of those rare encounters that sticks with you not just

546
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.440
because of how long it lasted, but because of how

547
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.079
close it came to the safety of her home. It's

548
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:30.359
a huge thanks to Star for sharing her memories from

549
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.400
that summer day in the Pine Barons of New Jersey.

550
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.240
For reminding us that sometimes the while doesn't wait for

551
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:37.160
you to go looking for it, it comes to you.

552
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.400
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576
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577
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