Aug. 17, 2026

10-Foot Sasquatch Crosses Hunter Near Cook Dam, Michigan

10-Foot Sasquatch Crosses Hunter Near Cook Dam, Michigan

For nearly 40 years, Gordon kept his experiences to himself. A lifelong outdoorsman who spends more than 100 days each year exploring Michigan's Huron National Forest, Gordon shares firsthand encounters that began in 1988 and continued across...

For nearly 40 years, Gordon kept his experiences to himself.


A lifelong outdoorsman who spends more than 100 days each year exploring Michigan's Huron National Forest, Gordon shares firsthand encounters that began in 1988 and continued across decades. His experiences include a towering road crossing near Cook Dam, enormous tracks in the sand, mysterious tree structures, deep nighttime vocalizations, wood knocks, and an unseen presence pacing him through the forest after dark.


With encounters near Glennie, Oscoda Township, and the Au Sable River, this episode offers an extraordinary look into one of Michigan's most active Bigfoot regions through the eyes of someone who knows these woods better than almost anyone.


If you enjoy authentic eyewitness accounts, wilderness mysteries, and respectful conversations about the unexplained, this is an episode you won't want to miss.


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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you all right, Big for Society the privilege of

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talking to Gordon today. Gordon's an individual I've met over

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on the TikTok side of Big for Society, which is

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Bigfoot Dot Society and Gordon, welcome to the show. You're

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an outdoors man. How are you doing today.

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Sir good? Thank you very much.

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And you told me something interesting if you would be

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willing to share that why you were willing to come

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forward and do something like this.

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Well, it's been going on since, like I said, eighty

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eight and I've never said anything. And because I didn't

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kind of really I didn't want to.

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Mess with.

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But I saw an interview which I found out it

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was you from a cop in the next town over

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said he was uh, he washed one for like ten

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minutes or whatever.

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And I'm like, well, yeah, it's out of the bag.

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Basically, And that was Glenny. The Glennie Michigan interview. There

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was like a standoff at a vacation log cabin. Pretty

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wild stuff.

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Yeah, you know it. It's the here On National Forest,

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and a lot of people don't realize how big it

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actually is. It's it's one million acres even so it's

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and that's big that people don't realize it. It's it's

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bigger than Rhode Island and slightly smaller than Delaware.

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Wow. So it's a big chunk of land.

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And it's it's along the Asabo River, Oh yeah, which

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pretty much cuts the state in half. And so I

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would be in between Glennie and the river. I spend

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a lot of time in the woods. By a lot,

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I mean probably one hundred and forty days I think

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was last year. The year before that was like one

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hundred and sixty days. Yeah, I mean I started off,

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you know, as a kid back in eighty eight. It

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was like, you know, okay, go up there for the weekends,

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you know, your Friday, Saturday, Sunday thing.

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And then it kind of made me go to.

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Thursday, Friday, Saturdays, Sundays.

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You know. I just been going more and more as

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the older I get.

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So I throw on the backpack and I do my scouting,

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you know, for bird coyotes. You know, I got coyote,

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and I do some trapping the normal deer bear. The

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trapping's not as fun as they make it sound, YATCHA.

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So an individual like you, where you are in the

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woods so often a great part of the year. I mean,

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you know everything that's supposed to be there, the sounds,

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the sights. I mean, you would have such a familiarity

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with the area that you go to, so it's not

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surprising that you're able to notice what's going on in

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these forests that you go to. That is that a

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good way to put it exactly?

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I mean, I know as much as a conservation.

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To tell you the truth, I talked to him, and uh,

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you know, as he talked about the conservation guys, the

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DNR is like I tried to tell him, you know, hey,

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we got cat up here, you.

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Know, and they're like no, no, no, no. I'm like, well,

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then how.

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Does a deer carcass get thirty feet thirty five feet

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up in the tree?

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You know?

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You know, I'm like no, no, And I don't know

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if the DNR they gotta know something, because it was

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like like where I'm at, there's like eight cottages and

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then nothing for like four miles towards Glennie and then

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nothing for a couple of miles the other direction. You know,

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it's like fifteen minutes to get a pop or your

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minto and you know it's a gas station, party store

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bait shot right right, So you're in the sticks.

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I'll tell you this.

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I'm out in Iowa and I know, I mean, dude,

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I talked to a d n R guy at the

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state fair about his bike his bigfoot thing. So it's like,

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did they totally know out here? So I'm sure they

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know in Michigan too.

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They just don't say anything.

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Yeah, they're just not gonna say anything.

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But so, so, man, what was the first What was

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the first time you had an experience where you realize, yeah,

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there's something going on out here in the woods.

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Well, well, like I said, you know, I know it.

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Coyotes and.

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Bear make noise, Deer make more vocalizations than you think.

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And if you ever hear bobcats, that'll that'll make you

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that'll make you look they make.

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Yeah. So it was like.

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We were up there in eighty six and eighty seven,

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and my dad bought the property in eighty eight and

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we had it an area bulldozed for the cottage and

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uh so so we were burning stumps and stuff like that,

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and uh it's just we're still.

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Intense, and I mean, it's it's funny now, but.

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We're going going to bed and everything. Remember I was

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like twenty two and I remember playing his day. I

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had a little tiny, little chrome looking flashlight with a

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red lens on it, and we're laying in the in

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the tent and this was after dinner and everything, going

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going to bed, and all a sudden, I hear something,

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you know, and I was like, I wait, and he did,

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I go tink tank and hit the little flash light.

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He's just like go back to sleep, Like I was

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a little kid, and uh, and he had his forty

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four bag got his chest. It's like he already knew

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what was going on. You know, it's like, holy crap.

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And something big, very big, was right next to the tent,

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and and it was kind of like, I mean, bears

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are big, you know, but like the one I got

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was three hundred and fifty pounds. But you can tell

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how big, how much larger this thing was, and it

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just it just you know, went away then. And then

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a little bit later on. You know, the thing is,

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I didn't really think about any of this stuff.

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I heard it on like in Search of with Leonard.

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Nimoy right right.

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And then you know, it was just passive. You know,

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it's like, oh, the lockdest Master this or that, and

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you watch it. And but once we started getting out

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there and everything, and we got like some fire outs

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where they just cut like one mile squares, so.

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A truck and get back there. And I seem like

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on one side of it was.

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It's a lot of sand. So but I just seen

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a big impression. And then in the middle of the

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fire out, I seen a very large footprint, another large footprint,

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and then a big you know bush in the sand.

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So basically two steps and it was over. It didn't

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see nothing.

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You know, just like and you know, being younger, I

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was like, ahha, you know, somebody's screwing around. And uh,

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some of these things that I may tell you I

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put together after the fact, Like I've seen you know,

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supposedly they set things up like tps or you know,

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falling uh branches, but you look up at it and

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it's you know, because they're pretty substantial. Well when does

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it make them fall? North southeast and west? You know

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they you know, the wind comes through and blows them

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all west. Well, where I'm at, I've seen that before,

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and I was told, you know, the me being puzzled.

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I'm like, oh, well, what the heck could do that?

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Or who would take the time to do something like that,

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you know, because it's not done, you know, it's artificial, right.

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And then later a couple of years later, like, oh,

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you know, I hear from.

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You know, one of your guys podcasts or didn't have

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podcasts right there.

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You know, you hear the stories of how well that's

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how long ago it was.

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You know, you.

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Learn about it. But like in.

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Like in nineteen ninety, I go walking down down this

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trail with my brother who was younger than me, and

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all of a sudden, I'm walking down the trail and

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you see this big root root system up in the air.

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I'm like, what the heck is you know, what is that?

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And it was an upside down tree stuffed in the ground.

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But my immediate reaction.

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Was it wasn't like this is a sas squatch or whatever.

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It was like, why would somebody take the you know,

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earth moving equipment because you're not doing it with a

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post hole digger, right, you know. You need something, you know,

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a bigger auger from on a bobcat or something, you know.

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And I was like, why would somebody do that? And

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you know, then like a year or two later, I'd

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find out, oh, supposedly they do this type of activity.

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But I remember it was probably about a big as

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a round as a telephone pole. So humans can't like

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do that and the ground's not disturbed or nothing, you know.

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I was like, it just went pooh planted. You know,

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it's like check this out.

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I've seen that twice up there, and uh and the

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teepee thing, I didn't find find one for like literally

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twenty years after that. But there's another spot that I found,

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you know, that I've been going to and nobody.

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Nobody goes down there because it's one of those.

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Three steps forward, one step back type scenarios. Right, And

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it was like late February. This was just two years ago.

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So I'm telling you there's a huge span with everything.

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I'm telling you there's no no, there weren't even like

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car depressions where like you know, they ran over snow

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and then it snowed again, you know, where everything was

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just smooth, no footprints, nothing.

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I of course I had to go down there. I

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go down there. I was like, what is that? You know?

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It was another tepee type setup where everything was put together.

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When it came time to build, which was like ninety ninety, Yeah,

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nineteen ninety. My dad was like, you know, oh, you

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just want to go into town and grab a burger,

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you know, because it was getting late from you know,

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we were still doing the clearing and everything. And uh,

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this is on Bissonet Road is what it's called. Uh

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it's one side of the river. On the other side

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of the river's River Road. And the elevation you probably

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got because it's a it's damned it's probably an easy

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hundred foot like of from the top of the dam

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on one side to the river on the other side,

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because you know, you got the high sides called the

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pond and then the low side is just the river.

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And uh.

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Who It was like, eah, you know, we don't He

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didn't want to like cook outside on the on the

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campfire because we didn't have a place there yet.

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And so he's like, yeah, it's going to town.

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So we go driving down the road and uh, coming

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from the river side, it was like we're just bsing

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back and forth as we're you know, driving down the road.

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All of a sudden it was like, well, you know,

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the gravel park.

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One two steps, the third step it hit the other

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side of the gravel park and hopped into the woods. Well,

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we're driving in the CORRIDORVA back then, and my dad

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just turns it looks in me.

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He goes, did you see that? I said, yeah, He goes, good,

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he goes, don't say nothing.

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Wow, if you saw it across the road in front

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of you, Oh man, huge.

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I've been I've flipped houses for years, cabinet shops, all

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this stuff, so I know what eight foot is because.

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The drywall and sheets of melanine and all that stuff,

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you know, and that time in particular.

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I mean a lot of people say, you know, their

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stuff can't be like that.

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I'd probably say that was ten foot wow.

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And I mean when you it was pretty cool, you know,

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to the vehicle, and when it came out and hopped

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over it kind of just gave a little bit of

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a you know, you know, looked at us.

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And it was probably about ten foot tall.

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And when you see a head on these things, like

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your head's probably you know, between seven and eight inches

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normal like human head, and but I'd probably say sixteen

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to eighteen inches my goodness. So never seen like a

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good face or anything like that, you know, but you

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can just toe bam. I mean, it's that big shoulders.

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I'd have to say literally five.

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Foot wide man, one hundred percent over four foot because

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I'm probably two foot yeah you know, I'm I'm five

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nine one ninety.

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Wait that I couldn't.

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I mean, if I had to guess, it was definitely

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north of five hundred pounds, Okay, yeah, definitely north easy easy,

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because like I said, you know, I'm I'm gonna tell

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you I got lions tickets. I've seen some I used

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to go to this Silver Dome. I've had tickets gone downtown.

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It would pick up one of.

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These linemen like fanos you know and uh on Marvel

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and just rag down one of these giant linemen that

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I've stood.

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Next to before. Wow, I mean, I mean.

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You, I would have to say, would probably be you know,

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two and a half feet thick easily.

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And just shoot man real quick about that.

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So what year was that again?

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That was like ninety okay, ninety? And was this Ascotta

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Oscotta township?

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Oscota?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, well yeah, it's right by the cook Damn.

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Okay.

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I asked that because one I looked up the road

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and that's what came up. And also I've actually had

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another sighting in that area over at van Etton Lake.

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Oh yeah, seventy one. There was a guy and his sister.

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They were really little and they were picking blueberries and

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they saw one right there. Even though they were screaming,

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it still came kept walking towards him. Wild stuff. Man.

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So yeah, that area, you know a few sightings. So

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how many seconds do you think you saw it in all?

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At that incident across the street? Was probably seven seconds?

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Okay, Okay, no, because I mean.

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It seemed like it when you put it together, it

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would have hopped across the ditch and landed on the

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gravel area, right, and then just one, two and then

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the third step that was on the other side of

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the gravel hopping a ditch to the other side.

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My goodness, was it more human like features or ape

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like or something just totally different?

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Oh no, I mean, you know they what did they do?

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They they found like the mountain gorilla like twenty years ago.

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Has absolutely nothing to do with a gorolla.

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Okay, totally different.

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Yeah, it was just if you kind of look at

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that h really like that.

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One TV show it was called Harry and the Henderson's.

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Oh yeah, but it didn't have that like slopey forehead.

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It was just a big good yeah yeah, yeah right, okay,

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my goodness.

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Yeah it was wow.

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You know, it was totally upright arm swinging and you

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want to talk some pipes on that thing or the.

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The muscles on it. You could tell like that the bicep.

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Was like eighteen inches twenty inches long, just just just

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everything exaggerated because it's enormous.

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Wow.

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Yeah, So your dad said not to say anything, and

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so did you not say anything?

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For a while.

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Then I didn't say anything while he passed away, like

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five years ago, and I finally told my brother and

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my daughter.

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Oh wow, I kept that by you did wow. Good

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for you. Yeah.

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And uh but I did say stuff to other people

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when he you know, about other experiences.

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That weren't with him.

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Got it okay?

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You know?

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And then you know, of course you get the flak

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thrown at you. You know, oh, you're crazy, or you

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were drinking or this or that.

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I was like, no, man, you know, now.

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We were driving or you know, I'm I'm not drinking

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when I'm going you know, six miles in the woods.

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Yeah.

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First of all, I'm not carrying it, you know, because

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you know, bounces equal pain when you're walking through the woods,

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you know.

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Oh for sure, Yeah, absolutely.

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You know.

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I'm the type I'll put a day pack on and

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I'll bring food with me, you know, and I'll just

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stay out because like the big thing in deer hunting,

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if you want to be successful, you got to stay out.

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Whenever you want to get up, you stay another twenty minutes,

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you know.

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But yeah, you know, I don't know what the what

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it is with the DNR.

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They keep stuff quiet and everything you know, because we

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had a lady up there post a picture at the

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uh actually it's called the Damn Store because.

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It's right by the foot Damn and.

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Everybody's got their bragging board, you know, or your big

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fish or your big buck and all that stuff. She

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took a picture of it, uh of a cougar with

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kids on her car, on the hood of her car.

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She was going to bring her kids out to go

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to school, and the DNR took it off.

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No way, Oh that's terrible.

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Yeah. Yeah, So I've seen big cat tracks.

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Up there and then you know, things like that, but

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you got to be out, you know, in the woods.

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I know where the coyotes, dens are and all that

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kind of stuff and all the different noises.

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So at that age, how did that affect you seeing

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something like that? Did it get you all gung ho

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towards Bigfoot or were you like pretty freaked out about it?

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Well? Yeah, I was a little freaked out that something

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that giant.

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Yeah, it's just you know, walking around doing its thing,

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you know, and you don't see it, but you know,

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you know, but when it's wasn't really that odd to

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not see it, because how many people see a bear

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in the woods, right, not very many. You're not going

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to see a bob cat. You're lucky, you know. If,

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like I said, you can hear them they scream, Well,

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we can get to that later. But yeah, I mean,

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coyotes have their own noises, I know, and coyotes are

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fighting or whether they're on the hunt, you know, doing

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their different vocalizations and everything.

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One year, I got.

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A power line, a major power line, not just telephone poles,

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but them the big steel you know, high rise, and

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from like this and that, it takes you about a

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mile of driving back into the woods on a.

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Dirt road, a service road, but it goes up into

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a big hill.

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And then well, when we were younger, we'd race the

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race our sleds up there and everything.

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And uh, but then I don't know what agency did it.

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They put giant boulders like the size of up there

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so nobody could race up the hill anymore. And I'm

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going back there in my Lincoln, which isn't the most

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Baja type vehicle.

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And so I.

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Walked like another quarter mile up and I got up

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to the very top of the hill and I was

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just I was just you know, sitting got my nice

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a nice set of binoculars, you know, And I'm just

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watching that because it was like September, early September, and

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I was, you know, glassing, because I I got a

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three hundred weatherby with a six x twenty Leopold on

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it so if I want to take a shot and

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I can send it.

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I was just glassing.

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And where the power line is, it's probably a good

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eighty yards wide, but I'm talking as far as you

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can see and straight, because they don't do ferns, you know,

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because it's not effishing for when you're bulldozing. And and man,

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I tell you, I'm sitting there in about.

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Eight hundred or so yards, I just glass.

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I'm I'm glassing them the edge of the forest because

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I had already walked through and you can see where

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they come out because they're a creature of habit, the deer.

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And I'm just sitting there, sitting there.

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I didn't know nothing, and I had had my coffee

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and I just I'm glassing. I'm glassing.

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I'm like, man, that thing.

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Looks darker than just the regular stump, because once the

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stumps get older, they.

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Start graying out, you know.

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And uh, as soon as I put as soon as

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I went like, you know, want, and it was like

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I made like a a weird kind of an an

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eye contact with it, oh man or sorry, just.

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Stood straight up wow, like holy crap, and then you know,

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turned around.

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But it must have it was a weird kind of vibe,

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you know, yeah, because you know, I was there for

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an easy half hour, you know, and I saw the

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little darker spot you know, which said, oh, maybe is

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it a bear or what it? What kind of rotted

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log or whatever, because I don't know what I saw.

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It was maybe a little movement or something that made

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me really get my focus on that spot.

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And it was just like and then it was like

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as soon as I saw it, I knew I saw it.

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That's so weird.

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I hear that more than a few times, Gordon, it's

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so weird.

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I got it. One of those fire routes or trails

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cut in and.

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I'll about a two miles back and it was archery season,

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and all.

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Of a sudden, I thought I heard.

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Was a well, you know, like they say that their

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communication is knocking or whatever, but I heard.

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A bam, you know, bam bam.

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And so where that where that happened, I was just

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coming up on a sideshoot off the main fire oute. Well,

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I figured somebody was like trying to change a tire

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on a car, and like sometimes you get your old

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beater trucks for the woods and they rust it on,

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you know, and they're here like hitting the tire or

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the you know, the rim or something. So I heard

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the I forget it was like three big knocks. Well,

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it's about a half a mile to the next road

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and then which is a blacktop road, Biscinet, and then

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there's the giant chunk of woods across the street. So

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I hear, you know, knock, knock, knock. And then from

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the other side of the road, I heard.

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The the whoo oh wow. Yeah.

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But you can, even being that far away, you'd be

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surprised the amount of like resonance to their you know.

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It's it's like it comes deep, you know. And it

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went from my brain went from some poor fools ripping

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his exhaust off or beating the tire off of his

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car to holy crap, that's communication.

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So and there's like three of them.

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And when that happened, it was like every single hair

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on my body. I was like porcupied yea and yeah,

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just totally. I'm not talking ooh my arm here. I

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felt hair everywhere and.

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So you know, I was with my bow. So it

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was like I actually.

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Started jogging down the trail like I'm getting out of here,

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because it was getting it was you know, I got

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out of my stand, you know, twenty minutes, you know,

472
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.200
before dark dark, and.

473
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.680
I definitely wanted to get out of there, you know.

474
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.960
It was, so I jogged for like a half a

475
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:59.960
mile one other time, same location. Uh had one paid

476
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.359
in me oh man, But staying in the staying in

477
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.599
the woods. But I don't think they want any harm

478
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.960
or anything like that. I think maybe, yeah, it's just

479
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.720
a curiosity because I think I believe, you know, watching

480
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:19.720
the ones went across the road and stuff like that, you're.

481
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:24.759
You're not a threat mm hmm, you know, because it will.

482
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:26.440
Just squish you, like you know, you're not a threat

483
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:27.319
to something that big.

484
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:28.160
Absolutely.

485
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.759
I mean, I think it just knows that I'm not

486
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.039
going to be able to do nothing.

487
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.160
And so that was my thinking on it.

488
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.680
If you're not out there, you're never going to have

489
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:40.599
an experience.

490
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.240
That's a thing. You're exactly right.

491
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.240
I invite a friend up there. It's like, oh, well,

492
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.119
I was uh up.

493
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.000
Here for the weekend and I didn't, you know, see anything.

494
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.480
I was like, dude, you got up here Friday night.

495
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.519
You probably put in three hours Saturday for a morning hunt,

496
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:05.640
three hours Saturday for an evening hunt, and then the

497
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.279
same thing Sunday morning, and your bounce. Well, I got

498
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:13.839
over a thousand hours in the woods that season, you know.

499
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:15.240
And.

500
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.880
You know, like I said, I'm gone you know all day,

501
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.799
you know. So it's like if you're not going to

502
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.519
see a deer, you're not going to see a bear,

503
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.079
You're not going to see something like this.

504
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.759
You know. Yeah, and.

505
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:37.720
You know I, like I said, I know all the

506
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:48.519
different vocalizations of animals and stuff. And h last year, Uh,

507
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:55.160
just chilling at the campfire, you know, probably twelve thirty

508
00:31:55.200 --> 00:32:00.960
one in the morning, girlfriends sitting there, Like I said,

509
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.640
you had the radio one or whatever.

510
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.880
Coming back from that same trail. I was just telling

511
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:21.480
you about heard some really deep guttural bellow mm hmm, and.

512
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.319
We got the chairs but between us and like I said,

513
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:32.559
it's so loud, and uh, the girlfriend immediately it was

514
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.000
like like that she just what stood straight up turned

515
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.039
around that I'm taking a shower and walked walked.

516
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:40.559
In the cottage.

517
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:46.319
Right. Yeah, so I'm I'm kind of laughing, but I

518
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.559
had my forties sitting right right next to me.

519
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:55.920
And by next day, after I chuckled as.

520
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.119
She was walking, I went and got the garden or

521
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:03.599
the ray raked all the coals, kicked the log up,

522
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.200
and I ended up going in like five minutes later.

523
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:11.680
You know, it was that form of a of a noise.

524
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:21.440
And uh an interesting vocalization is another one was really

525
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.559
garbled and if you if you ever like if you

526
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.799
have a I had labs and you hear them like

527
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:29.160
you know, you wrestle.

528
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:34.079
With them in the right but not growls more.

529
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:44.559
It was more garbled and uh.

530
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.400
I heard that coming from from the same thing.

531
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:48.240
Well immediately I was like, okay, I know there's a

532
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.599
coyote den about a third of a mile the other direction,

533
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.240
but it was no coyote.

534
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.039
You know. I tried to in my head say, oh,

535
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:57.480
it's coyotes.

536
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:00.599
Wrestling or playing around or whatever, you know, like no, no, no,

537
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.839
that's a third of the mile east and this is

538
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.759
like straight back.

539
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:11.840
And but loud, you know, and.

540
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.840
Really don't you know nothing daytime or anything like that.

541
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:19.800
It always ends up being in the night.

542
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:26.480
And I've never seen all the times I've been up

543
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:30.079
in there in the winter, never never had an experience

544
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:30.440
like that.

545
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:36.119
So interesting. Okay, that's really yeah. Wow.

546
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.719
So I don't know if it's something where they moved

547
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.519
to another area or if they done up, or what

548
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.639
their biology is or whatever. You know, like maybe they

549
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.239
could hibernate like a bear, does you know, because I've

550
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.239
seen beardens.

551
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.760
And stuff like that.

552
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.639
And you know, like I said, when I went, when

553
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.360
I went down to the low land where nobody goes,

554
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:08.480
that was winter. Nobody was down there, so sometime after

555
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.519
deer season, so you might as well say January. Between

556
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:23.320
January and uh Saint Patrick's Day, I forget that is

557
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.599
that that's March. So sometimes yeah, yeah, sometime in between there.

558
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.920
That's where one of those teepee structors was set up

559
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.400
because I was down there because I played like a

560
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.320
billy goat. You know, I don't care, I'll do my thing.

561
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:41.280
You just got to think it slow in the woods

562
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.039
so you don't hurt yourself, because if you hurt yourself,

563
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.400
you're you're screwed.

564
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.000
You know. It's the same thing.

565
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.679
You know, if I I go up to like Iron

566
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.679
Mountain and Key went on and some places even down here,

567
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.719
you can't use a compass because if you're on Iron

568
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:01.320
Ore or the compass just spins.

569
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:02.960
Oh yeah, good call yep.

570
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.159
You know. So it's like, you know, north is that

571
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:13.960
way right? Yeah, so you gotta you gotta know what

572
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.639
you're doing or you can really get lost.

573
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.920
Yeah, oh for sure. And man, you hear so many

574
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.559
wild stories out of Michigan. People don't realize how much

575
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.880
crazy stuff happens on either side of of the area

576
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.320
of Michigan.

577
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:29.719
You're tied.

578
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.119
I mean, you've got Manisty National Forests and then here

579
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.000
on both are pretty wild.

580
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:35.679
Oh yeah.

581
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.840
Has there been a time or maybe it's one of

582
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.199
those times you mentioned where you you were pretty like

583
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.360
you're like, I'm getting out of there, kind of scared

584
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.159
of what's going on. Would that be probably the time

585
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.639
you jogged out or.

586
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.519
Yeah, you know, I mean to actually to say that,

587
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.480
I was like, oh I'm scared.

588
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.599
Yeah, that would that would be And it had no idea,

589
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:07.079
you know.

590
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:13.280
And then the other time, same season, when it was

591
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.079
pacing me through the woods, if I was I would

592
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:23.079
like walk slow, it would walk slow, right, you know, and.

593
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:26.400
Almost to a fault.

594
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.320
It's like, I know, the area is so good, I

595
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.880
really don't need much of a flashlight. You know, a

596
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.159
lot of guys go out there with these big flashlights

597
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:35.719
that will light up half the woods. Well, I don't

598
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.719
need that because I go there so often. You know,

599
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:44.280
I got I got tree stands quarter mile away. Then

600
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.599
I don't even need my flashlight. I can navigate it

601
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.840
in the dark, you know, just.

602
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:51.880
Because I've been around there so often.

603
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:56.079
You know, I can by moonlight or whatever I can

604
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.199
pick up, you know. Yeah, Okay, that's my giant oak

605
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.599
and I got to turn and right, you know, or

606
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.519
you know, whichever the hill because we got a lot

607
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.480
of hill people, I think it's flat.

608
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.320
It's not nowhere near flat.

609
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.000
We got some pretty rugged train you know, I'm not

610
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:16.119
talking you know, Iron Mountain train, but we got hills

611
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.719
and you know, steep drop offs and stuff like that.

612
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:24.639
So I know which gully that I'm going in. It's like, okay,

613
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.360
don't go down, you better stay up.

614
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:26.679
You know.

615
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:28.440
Absolutely.

616
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.400
So when you were getting when you were getting paced,

617
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:34.639
you were out there in the dark, just walking in

618
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:36.880
the dark because you knew where everything was and something

619
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:37.679
was pacing.

620
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.199
Ye, well, yeah, pacing me. You know, that's honestly, That's

621
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:42.719
all I had was.

622
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.039
A mini magh Okay, gotcha. Yep, yeah.

623
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.960
Those are popular back then, you know, right right, and

624
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:49.599
they're still convenient.

625
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.679
Like I said, I didn't have my I got I

626
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.079
had big flashlights for around the cottage, but not for

627
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:01.039
when I'm going because you know, I don't want to

628
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:01.480
carry it.

629
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:03.079
Yeah.

630
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:09.679
Absolutely, What what would you say? And uh so, what

631
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:13.079
do you think was the most recent experience that you had.

632
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:19.119
Oh, it would be the it would be the uh

633
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.119
last the one last year when I said, I mean

634
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:27.079
it was that big bollowing sound coming down off the

635
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:28.800
hill because it was it was up higher.

636
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.760
Uh when my girlfriend said I'm out of here.

637
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:39.159
Okay, gotcha? Wow? Yeah, when you when you are okay.

638
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.760
So I guess first question is do you ever share

639
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.360
these with your your hunting buddies, And if you do,

640
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.199
do they ever say, hey, yeah, We've had stuff like

641
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:50.679
that happened too in the same area.

642
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.039
Uh. Actually, I'm on the east side of the state here.

643
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.119
Everybody else I know is more more in the middle

644
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.400
or the west. I got some buddy he's in the

645
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:01.239
Shakun zone.

646
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:08.119
You know, they say these scene, you know, things that

647
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.679
they didn't know and they thought they were bears or whatever,

648
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.360
or they're they'll, you know, they'll make fun of me

649
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.960
because I'm a one of them, kind.

650
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.880
Of hairy Italian dude. So they call me the sas Squatch.

651
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:26.039
You know. It's like yeah, right, yeah, it was like

652
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:27.760
you're the Sasquatch.

653
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:28.119
You know.

654
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:29.880
I'm like, oh, yeah, okay.

655
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.719
But you know, they treated all lighthearted and they say,

656
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.079
all right, you know, I'll take your word for it.

657
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.960
But and you're never going to get like a footprint

658
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.159
because it's a very sandy air county.

659
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:47.440
The whole county sand.

660
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:48.199
Got it, got it?

661
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:54.039
You know, you got like eight inches of earth on

662
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:55.599
top of the sand bed.

663
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.719
You know, yeah, that makes sense.

664
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:06.480
Yeah, But like I said, I wasn't even gonna really

665
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.079
do anything until I saw your your your thing with

666
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.719
the cop and Glenny. And the vast majority of these

667
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:21.039
happened in between me and Glenny because that's where Cruz,

668
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:21.360
you know.

669
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.719
Which which is wild because it's one of my really

670
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.119
early episodes. And like the whole time he's I think

671
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.159
he was on the phone and it's just like rubbing

672
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:36.559
up against his beard and I was thinking, I think

673
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.840
it'll be fine because no one will not a lot

674
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:40.519
of people are gonna listen to this one, so it's fine.

675
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.000
I'll just let him go. And dude, that's like the

676
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:47.239
number two listened episode to my YouTube channel. It's like

677
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:51.360
thousands and hundreds of them people, And I'm like, oh, man,

678
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.280
I should have I should have told him if can

679
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.599
you take it away from your beard? But it's still

680
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.360
people really liked it. It's it's one of the most

681
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.480
popular ones that I've ever done on YouTube.

682
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.199
But that area, that area is wild.

683
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:04.519
Man.

684
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.679
I just I just I don't know, I forget how

685
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.880
old you said it was, but I just saw it, like,

686
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.800
you know, two months ago, because I never really got

687
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.679
into wanting to tell or whatever.

688
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.039
And I just started watching.

689
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.159
Some you know, some of these on like YouTube, and

690
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.159
I was like, no, kid, you know, just passively clicking.

691
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.039
The oh yeah, well there's there's the algorithm for you.

692
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.880
It'll it'll send stuff your way. So I'm glad it

693
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:35.800
got your way. But Gordon, this has been it's a

694
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:41.119
really fascinating conversation about an area. It hasn't coming up.

695
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.760
It's come up probably two other times. The the one

696
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.119
I mentioned earlier and the one that you mentioned and

697
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.679
uh man, it's been fun talking to you. I want

698
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.800
to make sure that you were able to share everything

699
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.440
that you came onto the show.

700
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:59.360
To share today, right, and thank you very much. Awesome.

701
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.239
Oh man, keep us in the loop. You know you're

702
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.639
still going out there. You're spending hundreds, you know, one

703
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.320
hundred plus days, thousands of hours. If you ever experience

704
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:11.880
anything else out there, we'd.

705
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:12.599
Love to hear about it.

706
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.280
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

707
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.519
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

708
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:26.320
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

709
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.159
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

710
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.480
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

711
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.920
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

712
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.920
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

713
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.960
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

714
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.840
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

715
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.400
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

716
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:53.079
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if

717
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.760
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field

718
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.840
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

719
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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a.

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Missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw

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something that shook your faith, or if you work in

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the shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've

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seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk

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to you, even if it's anonymous. You can reach me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. The world needs

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to hear what you've been forced to carry alone. And

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you're not alone. You've got the story, We've got the mic.

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See you in the woods.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

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Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the

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world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that

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the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe

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to the channel on YouTube. Hit the bell so you

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don't miss the next episode, and share this with a

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friend who's into Mysteries, Monsters or the Unexplained. And if

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you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast, please

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follow the show there and leave us a five star

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positive review because all that helps more people discover the show.

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And remember, if you or someone you know has had

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a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

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so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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and let's start the conversation. If you haven't gotten a

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chance yet, check out our membership community over at www

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dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's where you

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can hear tomorrow's episode today early in ad free and

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members only episodes every week. Also, it's a place to

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connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject

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as much as you are. Thanks again for following along

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with the Bigfoot Society until next time, Keep your eyes open,

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trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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be out there? And see you in the woods.

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