Nov. 19, 2025

Investigating New Zealand’s Forbidden Forests Uncovers Hair-Raising Bigfoot Encounters!

Investigating New Zealand’s Forbidden Forests Uncovers Hair-Raising Bigfoot Encounters!

Paranormal investigator Marc Coppell joins the Bigfoot Society Podcast to uncover the hidden world of New Zealand’s Bigfoot, known as the Moehau. From eerie howls in remote forests to rocks hurled in the dark, Coppell shares decades of shocking evidence—footprints, disembodied voices, and UFO sightings that connect New Zealand’s mysterious giants to the legendary Skinwalker Ranch.

Hear about real-life survival moments, chilling recordings from forbidden wilderness zones, and the Māori legends that warn of hairy giants roaming the bush. Whether you believe in cryptids or crave untold mysteries, this episode dives deep into the intersection of Bigfoot, UFOs, and the paranormal.

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You're listening to Bigfa Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to mister Mark Koppel today.

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Mark is all the way over there in New Zealand.

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He is a I guess you could say a paranormal investigator,

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but also a lot of his research has kind of

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gone over into the Bigfoot related field as well. So

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some really interesting things to talk about today. Mark, Welcome

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to the show. How are you, friend?

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Yeah? Pretty good, pretty hero rising experience tonight. I almost

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didn't make it to the interview this morning, so I'm

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glad to be here.

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Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about that for a minute, because

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you were just telling me that off air, and and literally,

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I mean there's you really should not be here what

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you just experienced it. It was pretty intense.

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Yeah, I went to my typical area where I go

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in the wild. Now, cell phone doesn't doesn't work, you know,

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in certain parts, it just doesn't work. And so unless

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you've got a GPS beacon to you know, signal satellite

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to get help, you're going to have to rescue yourself.

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I fortunately, I had a knife on me. I was

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actually going across a zip line that I made across

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the creek go into this you know remote It was

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like kind of like a moat this creek. So you know,

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I've set up a zip line to go over about

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about three four months ago. I went there yesterday and

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I had this weird feeling like I don't feel good

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about this, But you know, I was on a time crunch,

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was trying to get across there before nightfall, and I

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made a big mistake. There was too much slack in

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the rope. Plus I had a big pack on. So

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I went onto this rope and then I got stuck

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in the middle, and then I was getting pulled downwards

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because gravity. My pack's really heavy. I was getting pulled

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downwards and I couldn't move myself down. Plus I've got

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back issues, which means that my lower back was kind

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of giving out, and I was almost passing out, and

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I was hung up there by myself. So the only

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way I could get free, I had this thought. I

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had a knife in my vest. I had to pull

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my knife and try to swing myself into a small

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tree that was close by. Otherwise would have dropped about

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twenty plus feet. So I quickly cut through this rope

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that was about two thousand kilogram large strength on it.

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So I had to cut through, and I fell into

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this tree, fortunately, this other tree, fortunately, and so I

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kind of ended up really bad.

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Oh my goodness, Mark here that it is extremely lucky,

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uh that you were able to get through that really

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with no injury. It seems.

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Yeah, just just pretty spoke, that's all, you know, just

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uh uh, just realized, got to be really careful out there.

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I preferably have someone with you when.

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When you go out in these areas. You know, we

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we may I know We're gonna have to start, uh

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foundationally for myself because I'll say, hey, a lot of

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the people listening are from the US when we think

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of New Zealand, we're thinking of like Lord of the

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Rings films, like that's what we know about New Zealand.

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So when you go out, when you're going out to

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this area where you almost had this thing happened yesterday,

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how remote were you Well.

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I mean, it wasn't too far from society, but it

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wasn't like you know, you know, being out in the

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middle of the mountains, in the middle of I mean,

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it was a remote area, but it wasn't so far.

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But my celphone didn't work, so even if I tried

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to use it, it wouldn't have worked where I was.

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So I go, this is my research area number two,

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which I go to. We've had rock stride next to me,

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sometimes UFOs going over the forest canopy moving very fast.

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A lot of weird stuff has happened, recording very strange

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voices out there. I've been really wanting answers to what

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I've experienced in the past.

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Well, that's that's really interesting. So it sounds like what

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I'm picking up is that in New Zealand as well,

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you have areas of high strangeness, even kind of similar

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to how we have them in the US. And certain

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areas might come up later on in the interview especially,

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but yeah, things thrown at you. That sounds familiar. That

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sounds like something we do deal with over here, where

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you know, researchers or witnesses will be out in certain

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areas and they'll have rocks thrown at them, usually in

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bigfoot related areas. So are you seeing that you guys

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also have bigfoot over there in New Zealand as well.

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Yeah, tomorrow's shocking discovery. I spent many years in America

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coming back to New Zealand with stuff happened back here.

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Now there's a connected that's gonna walk a rouge which

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you probably would have witness followed me around out now

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New Zealand. Now, I had no idea growing up here

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that there was legends from the Mallori people who landed

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here in New Zealand about eight hundred years ago. They

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had legends of these hairy giants that were incredibly strong.

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They are terrified of. There were areas of where they

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would not go, you know, cross creeks, there certain mountainous

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areas that would avoid because of according to some of

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the legends. Now they didn't they didn't have, you know,

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the ability to write they just passed everything on through

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carving and song and dance and old traditions. But many

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of the legends that they talked about in these stories

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were quite reflective of Sasquatch.

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Well, I mean that is so eye opening for myself.

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You know, we were fortunate enough to have an interview

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that was all about Australia a few weeks ago, and

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that is eye opening as well. But to hear that

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similar things are happening in New Zealand is amazing. Is

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there a name that we should be calling it for

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New Zealand as opposed to big or Sasquatsch.

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Well, the data see it would call them the moy hoos,

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the rapper wise, the matos, the male roles. There's several names,

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just like you know around the world, there's hundreds of

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not thousands of names or these these hairy giants found

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across the globe. I really shocked to discover the legends

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here and the other weird stuff that was going on.

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So I will a moyos correct?

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Yes?

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Okay, So when you get these reports of my moyhos

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in New Zealand, have you found that they tend to

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be more towards having paranormal aspects along with them, or

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are they more where it seems like there's like maybe

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some undiscovered animal out there, where people are seeing some

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kind of primate.

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Well, there seems to be a bit of both. I mean,

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there's a lot of what's considered something physically biologically here.

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People see a physical creature sometimes described with reddish eyes,

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that have very powerful lungs that let out growls, incredibly strong,

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incredibly intelligent, outperform us in every way, particularly out there

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in the wild, in these remote areas. You know, these

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the descriptions often fit descriptions of like the yahwees as

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a Susquatch or the armistices. These descriptions fit almost identically

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descriptions of the other book puts in other places.

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Gotcha, I was surprised that, you know, when we heard

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from Australia, there's multiple different types of Yawi's and they

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look differently. And over here in America we also have,

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you know, kind of different types of regional bigfoot. I

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think some of them maybe have a more Neanderthal look,

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some of them have maybe a more Orangutan look. Have

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you found that over there in New Zealand in different

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parts of the country, there are different looks to these,

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mohos Well.

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I did hear from a man that worked in the

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Waypu forest in Northland, a very old forest. A man

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that worked for the Department of Conservation. It was actually

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on a job with a worker fellow worker in this

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you know, off maintaining some sort of track. Now, he

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described something that was very hairy, but slender, slender, not

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not bulky like the Paddy description that you know, the

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famous Gimblin footage. You know, this was something center. Now.

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They are described as being from about six foot tall

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up to around twelve feet tall. There are various descriptions, however,

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they seem to be kind of general, you know, about

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the same very hairy. I don't quite hear so much

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about really small ones or dog men. We only got

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one report of dog men here down towards Wellington Way.

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But yeah, mostly you know, described as something that's very hairy,

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reddish to black black fur. My my feeling is from

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my experiences myself, is that they are a type of

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people who are cutely aware of us. They're a cutely

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aware and what cameras are, what what what we do?

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Even now?

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Tensions okay, so extremely interesting when you say they seem

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to be aware of cameras, that reminds me of how

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a lot of individuals over here we will think that

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they are maybe even aware of like IR in game cameras.

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Is that kind of what you're referring to.

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Yes, definitely, and I'll use them for a cameras quite

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a bit, particularly not time.

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Gotcha? Have there been so we mentioned, you know, the

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Patterson Gimlin footage a few a minute or so ago.

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Have there been any successful photographs or videos captured in

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New Zealand as of yet?

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Not so much bookfoot wise. However, I did put out

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a documentary. This one took me ten years to mike. Now,

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towards ended my documentary, I tacked somebody into this what

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I call researchery number one. I'm very hard to reach area.

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It's a MACHETI only kind of area where weird stuff

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had happened. Now in when I was actually taking a

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series of photos where weird stuff had been happening, and

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one are my shots up on this very steep, slippery slope.

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There's something up there that has a chronical head, typical

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bigfoot shape. And I tried I went back to actually

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try to debunk. It actually took my drone there and

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I flew up the slope. Weeks later, or was it

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months later, I went back to try to recreate that shot.

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I couldn't. Then I actually climbed down the slight very carefully.

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I have slept out in that area too, But this

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is why I was beginning those footprints. All the weird

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stuff was going on there, and I was trying to

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forget what the heck was going on in the early days.

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But I so I suspect that I may have got

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one in one of my photographs.

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Oh absolutely, For there'll be a lot of people listening

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to this audio only, and I'll have links in the

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show notes as well. But so the name of your

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documentary is it? Is it the X rated Files?

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Yes? From skin Walker? Yeah?

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Perfect, just be awesome, very good. You mentioned that there

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seems to be an intelligence, and then I think you

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mentioned as well knowing intention, which that those can lead

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to very interesting conversations over here. Can you think of

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any times when there's been intelligence shown or or the

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Moyjos have been able to to a sense what a

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person's intention is as they go out into the area.

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Well, I can't really say that for other people other

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than my own experiences myself. I'll give you an example.

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Now this is actually in the documentary. I did gifting,

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like what some people do. Sometimes I'll give them fruit

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and stuff in a certain area. Now, I went back

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one time. I was absolutely shocked to find a dead

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wild pig laid right next to where I do gifting,

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freshly killed, I still glassy, what appears to be an

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incision on the hind of its back, bloodless incision. Sitting there,

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freshly killed. It looked like they had gifted me. There's

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other weird stuff that happened like I. I would complain

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and say, oh, it doesn't look like they were here today.

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Did something would throw a rock and hit my boots,

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or or because it's so wet here it rains all

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the time, it's very hard to find a dry stick.

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a stick, but it's hard to find a dry stick. Well,

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one time, I said, oh, I wish, I wish I

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could find you a good stick to bang a tree.

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I go back there another time, and then there's this

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this really good dry stick just laid up against the fence,

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just like deliberately placed there stuff like that.

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That is always extremely interesting, man, that finding that pig there.

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That sounds extremely close to a lot of things we

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deal out out here with, like almost cattle cattle mutilations

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where you know there's there's lack of blood. That's very

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strange to hear that in other country as well. Have

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you ever tried going out to one of your areas

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and being like, hey, if there's talking directly to the

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area that you're in, and have you had any responses

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that way?

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Oh? Yes, okay, and quite shockingly, when I say shocking,

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going into the area, very hard to get into, very slippery.

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I sometimes I'll do a call to them, like a

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whoop kind of call. Well, what happened is they actually

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whooped back to me. They pull on a tree branch

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and then something with a very deep set of lungs

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a grown like a grown response. I wore a GoPro

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camera plus a separate In the early days of GoPros,

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the sound recording was crap, but visuals the sound, So

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I'll do wear a separate body mic and I upgraded

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my MIC's But anyway, so whatever it was pulled back

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on a branch and groaned. Now if you Listen carefully

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to the footage the audio on that you can hear

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this grown responding to me. This is where I'm finding

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these footprints. Strange structures. I found. They also like to mimic.

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They like to mimic human language, and I recorded it.

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Now this is snowboard in recent years. This is snowboard.

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I'm now recording howling, strange howling that doesn't sound like

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anything that I can identify. I had a wildlife professional,

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a park ranger, local park ranger who listened to that,

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and he hears something similar in the Commandal Ranges on

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the Commental Peninsula in the North Island East coast heard

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this howling. He went there with some workmates to go

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do curry tree seat harvesting that means climbing up these

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very high trees using ropes. Anyway, he said that he

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heard these this howling out there that he couldn't explain

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that it wasn't like anything I've heard, almost like a

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like a siren, but without without the sound going down

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like going and I've heard that. I recorded some hours

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of whatever's going on, had stones drawn me along with

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these strange sounds. Look, one time I heard a digitally

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do I mean mike camera picked up the sound of

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a digitallydo what the sound of a digitallydo doing out

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in the push in an area where there's no public tracks,

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in a very well dangerous area where I nearly died yesterday,

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in a very dangerous area to go to some kind

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of highly intelligent interaction going on that as it's something

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coming from another dimension. Whatever's going on is acutely aware

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of us and our reasons for being out there. Now,

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they don't like a lot of people. Now, I recorded

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a number of messages I use very powerful I use

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mics similar to this. This is one of my many

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parabot mics. Now, what separates me from a lot of

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researchers is I do. I use high powered mics, and

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it's really paid off. I've been able to record very

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strange messages, something with very big lungs out there, and

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you could hear some of these samples in some of

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my videos on my channel.

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So that sounds so you're almost capturing kind of like

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EVPs on the paranormal side. Is that kind of what

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you're referring to when you're capturing language?

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Both I'm getting both, I'm getting stuff I'm hearing disembodied

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voices and also EVP related that your ears don't hear

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at the time, but get picked up. Now, my MIC's

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the power the professional mics. I use a shielded from

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EMF and a ref electro bank medic frequency and also

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radio frequency. There shielded, it ain't picking up radio, it's

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picking up something. Sometimes they say things that are really strange.

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One of the messages I picked up out there says

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humans kill them and they give themselves a name. Sometimes

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I'll call my name something worth a very big set

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of lungs. It don't Some of these voices don't sound

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like us nor wildlife. It is really shocking stuff, folks.

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It's I'm really glad that I'm recording good audio because

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if I hadn't, I wouldn't know. You know, at least

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when you record something, you can go over it and

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perhaps see if you can debunk it. For something, was

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it a hiker or you know, was it something that

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was explainable? But many times the stuff that I record

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just you can't explain it, not in prosaic terms.

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Wow, that's that's very shocking. The when you hear your

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name called, so are you hearing this with your own ears?

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In real time or is it it's recorded and you

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hear it later.

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Both. Sometimes I'll actually hear I won't. I'll have a

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hard time understanding what they're saying, but my my MIC's

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will pick them up what they're saying. And it's really

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shocking when it's your own name. And sometimes they say

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things that are not permitted on broadcast. One of the

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voices said, we're not going to kill you, Mark, You're

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coming out. Humans kill as in my people are very strange.

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Some of the voices of a kind of birdlike. Some

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are really like you, you imagine a bigfoot speaking. Some

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of them are very deep voices. Some of them have

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a quality that is beyond on the dynamics of human speech,

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very powerful that can echo. The voices can echo in

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the mountains, very very powerful voices, elongated the vocal ranges.

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Just to me is amazing.

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Can you There was the first phrase you said, where

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it We're not going to kill you Mark, But and

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then there was something else and I didn't quite catch it.

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One of the voices I record out this is you

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come and out. So I also do instrumental transcommunication, which

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separates me from just about everybody that does this kind

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of thing, at least you know with Sasquat's research. I

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use electronics using Furuday radio blocking matire around my radios.

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I have a theory that and something very strange happened

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that's connected to what I'm talking about right now. But anyway,

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I use Ferde radio blocking material to block you know,

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radio signals. I don't want radios. I suspect that some

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of these beings can use our ele chronics to get

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messages through. Now. The reason why I say this is

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some two years after returning from well after going to

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Skinwalker Ranch where I had my first sasquatch encounter back

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in twenty thirteen. In twenty fifteen, after traveling halfway across

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the world, I was doing a paranormal investigation in Auckland,

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City of all places. I'm using a sandy in packed

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radio with this material around it. A very strange voice

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comes through. It says something about accepting the bigfoot people

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big people, and then it repeats. Now at the time

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I couldn't quite understand what it was saying. It's something,

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and it kept repeating, and it was like nothing you

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would hear on the radio, completely opposite, very hard to explain.

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And what I suspected. I got followed from America all

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the way to the South Pacific where where this was

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started happening in the wild. And I was like, now

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when stuff happened to me in America. Now, I've had

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a very strange life, a number of very strange things.

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I study the woo to the boo, to the food.

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So I study. You know, I've got a fourteen style background.

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So I and my family got basically chased out of

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a house by politicist from Ola in the eighties. So

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I have become very interested. I've come across some very

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scary things in my life, some entities that can do

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physical harm. There is stuff now you mentioned EVPs. Yes,

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there's stuff that can come across from other dimensions. Now

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my question is is well, the stuff that seems to

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be quite physical, does it have the ability to cross dimensions?

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Is it it's a dimensional? Does it have the ability

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to come through like like we might describe a ghost.

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And now the reason why I say this is when

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I was going to my area, one of my first

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areas that I went to when I came back to

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New Zone back in twenty fifteen, I was going walking

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along this this world track I was actually looking in

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an old gold historical area, overgrown, lots of very native

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bush around there. I heard something walking through the bush, bipedal,

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and I was taking a leak, and I was like,

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shouldn't be anybody out here. I hear this walking and

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I was like, oh, I'm going to be caught with

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my zip down, you know. I was like, oh my,

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you know, well, something walks right up to me. I

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could not see it. It was right on the edge

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of this ravine. So I was like, what the is it?

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A ghost? Is it? You know? I've had many ghosts experiences.

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I've seen all apparitions, sometimes with other people. Now I

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had this strange feeling that I had to go into

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this ravine and I didn't want it because I knew

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it was really dangerous getting in there. It's a machete

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only area. So I went down there. That's when I

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started finding footprints similar to this. Now, this is one

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of the small casts that I am so so anyway,

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but some of them were a lot bigger. Now, I

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noticed as we talked about the sound aspect, so I

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find these footprints. Now, it rains a lot here. There's

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a lot of dead fall on the top soil. So

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to find prince is very hard. So you have to

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be in the right area. You had to be in

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like a creek area where there's the mud the soft

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ground is exposed. Where I've found these footprints. I found

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the strange X structures with I'll shoved two broken sticks

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into a creek. And it's in area. Now some people

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might say, oh, it's gonna be kids. You know, it's

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gonna be kid. Well this area as now is it

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hard to get to? There's cuddy grass, there's BlackBerry. Uh,

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there's prickles. You could rip your feet up very easily

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out there. Who is walking around in an area now

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western is we have soft feet, you know. But anyway,

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so I'd find these strange structures and I'm like, I'm

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kind of forget what that And it seemed like something

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would mimic me out there as well, or throw stuff,

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and that horrible weird feeling of being washed well when

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you in the middle of nowhere but just getting watched

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by something. And I needed answers, and I slowly just

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put pieces of the dig saw together, and I realized

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that the MARII talked about these giants and that they

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were deathly afraid of in the wild. They even name

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some of the areas after them. The a poke mot Role,

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which means the hells of the Hairyman, a place in

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the South Island of New Zealand. You know we talked about,

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you know, in New Zealand, the place of the Lord

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of the Rings. Well, you know that's you know, that's fantasy.

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But how are There's other things that are going on

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that ain't quite so much fiction. There's something else going

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on and includes wildlife professionals, plat rangers, people with a

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serious scientific background. Now, how did they get here? This

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is one of the questions that people ask me is Okay,

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you're all the way in the south with the how

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on earth did they get there? Well, that's a really

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valid question. Well, now, while I was making this documentary,

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I went to the Mount moyhow which is actually one

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of the locations these giants are supposed to be. I

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went there to shoot b roll of this wild mountain.

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Now this is my theory. When I was there to

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shoot with my DSL, I was just doing handheld footage.

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I got to see a giant silver sphere right by

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the mountain I locked. I was like, that's a that's

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a wild mountain. I mean that shouldn't be up there.

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There's nothing manufactured up there that shouldn't be up there.

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Is it a reflection? This scene faded right out in

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front of my eyes. I couldn't get my bloody camera

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fast enough to get it. It was like one of those situations,

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like all I can do is talk about. However, when

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I did further footage, I picked up these smallest sources

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moving like Mark III, very fast. One of them does

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a media flip. Now. I fly drones too, these wind

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drones moving far too fast. If you blink, you miss them.

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They're moving that quick. However, I suspect the same mountain

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as a mountain of what they call the fairy people

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and the giants, the pat pere and the muijos. Well,

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I suspect that they were placed here the theory of

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pam spermia, that just like Westerners when they first came

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down here to New Zealand, they bought with them possums

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from Australia, non native creatures got over here. I suspect

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that either something placed them here unnaturally or in some

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other way. But I suspected that you know this, We

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also talked about the Yawi right in Australia. You know,

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Australia's big Foot, which is you know, you know, it's

462
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about a two hour flight across the Tasman Sea to

463
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.039
Australia from here, So we are very isolated. So I

464
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:53.240
suspect that that they were placed here. Wow, that's according

465
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:54.119
to what I saw.

466
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:02.160
So so very interesting. It just opens your eyes. One

467
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.119
quick question I wanted to ask before we consine. So

468
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:11.039
there are no there are no primates in New Zealand

469
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:17.400
or any creatures that would even come close to being

470
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:18.000
this at all.

471
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.119
Right, we have no bears, we have no monkeys. There

472
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.440
was a report, a cover story, I call it nineteen

473
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:31.480
twenty four according to Taranaki Daily News. I believe was

474
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.960
in nineteen fifty two. There was a story about two

475
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.599
hunters that same mountain. I was just telling you about

476
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.759
where I saw. That's fair, that famous mountain. Two hunters

477
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.720
reported seeing a giant on this mountain. And so anyway,

478
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.960
there was a cover story saying that, oh, there was

479
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:55.279
a gorilla mascot that escaped a ship off the Bay

480
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.960
of Yarro there not far away from there of a

481
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:04.319
escape rilla mascot. Now, you know, thinking about gorillas. Grillas,

482
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.920
they can't swim. Now, it would be more likely that

483
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.680
a baboon could have escaped now. Also another thing about gorillas,

484
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.079
if we want to talk about, you know, chimps and

485
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:20.119
stuff like that, their feet are not like our feet.

486
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:25.559
Their feet have opposing digits. They're very, very good at climbing. Basically,

487
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.599
they have four sets of hands. They can climb up trees. Now,

488
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.799
the prints that have found here and sometimes other people

489
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.799
find Prince giant footprints here. Rex Gilroy, who just recently

490
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.039
passed away cryptosologis from Australia author. He also reported coming

491
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.160
over here I think it was in the mid nineteen nineties,

492
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:50.799
found giant footprints fossilied footprints here in the Crown a

493
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.200
Happy Gorge area. There have been other people who have

494
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.759
come across giant footprints. I've heard from others who found

495
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:03.200
giant footprints here. Their foot prints don't look like gorilla footprints.

496
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.000
They do not look like chimp footprints. They look like

497
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.079
a larger version of ours, except some of them are

498
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.240
really large. Now, one of the footprints that I measured

499
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:17.799
was about thirty seven centimeters. Sorry, I forget what that

500
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.519
is in inches of hand polities to those in America,

501
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:27.400
so that over time there's been reports. Now, you know,

502
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:32.079
so if some people try to basically wash away people's

503
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.799
sightings by saying, oh, what was escaped gorilla? Now, Gorilla's

504
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:39.160
only lived for about thirty to forty years, So that

505
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.640
siding back in nineteen fifty two, Well, there were sightings

506
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:47.000
way before that and also after that. Now, if you

507
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.680
type in moy how Giants sightings or whatever on Google,

508
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.799
you will find press reader gives a number of samples

509
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.119
of sightings of the years all the way up to

510
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:08.199
about nineties. And he's you know hikers, hunters, people, you know, tourists. Now,

511
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.800
I got a report that same mountain that I talked

512
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:14.239
about where I saw those UFOs or that UFO, and

513
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.719
then I caught those other ones. Straight after I got

514
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.599
reports from that same mountain. There was a man that

515
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.360
contacted me, a fireman who was from Spain. He was

516
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.119
here on a holiday. He was up this three thousand

517
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.599
foot mountain, one thousand meters mountain, Mount moy How. This

518
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:35.239
is the legendary mountain, wild mountain. Some people got there,

519
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.800
they have nothing, but then other people have stuff. He's

520
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.599
up there. The summit's actually off limits but anyway, so

521
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.800
the mari used to care they did up there. But anyway,

522
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.559
he's there, God his He's just there by himself. He says,

523
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.119
he's getting ready to set up his tent to sleep

524
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:58.960
on the summit. Overnight, he hears the sound of something

525
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:05.280
bipedal bi pedal footsteps moving in the bush close to him. Now.

526
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.000
At first he said he thought it was a whapp

527
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.840
of te deer, but he said, that doesn't that sounds

528
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:15.159
more bipedal. Then what happens is a series of rocks

529
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.239
start getting thrown at him. And this just wasn't Peeble's folks.

530
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:26.400
This was heavy rocks and I'm talking fourteen kilogram a

531
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.440
series of whatever was throwing those rocks should be in

532
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:34.199
the Olympics. He according to him and his report, he

533
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.239
said there was a series of rocks that got thrown

534
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.199
at him that got close and closer, and he said

535
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.960
that the final one that was thrown at him was

536
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:48.159
about fourteen kilograms and was thrown from about sixty feet

537
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:52.719
away or twenty meters away and landed very close to him.

538
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.800
He was terrified. He fled, left his gear, fled the mountain.

539
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.480
I was also contacted well, I spoke to a man

540
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:06.159
I suspect as a scientist along with three companions who

541
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.400
went up that same mountain back in the seventies. They

542
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.480
went up there to sleep up there. I don't know

543
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.239
exactly what they were doing up there, but they slept

544
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.039
about halfway up. They said, at about one o'clock in

545
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.320
the morning, they heard this howl up there that they

546
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.239
couldn't explain. They were absolutely terrified. They said. They left

547
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.760
at pace. Now I tried to interview them. They didn't

548
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.599
want anything to do with it. They had this cognitive dissonance.

549
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.760
They didn't want anything any more to do with it.

550
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.679
All I knew is they tried to identify that with

551
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.719
their analytical minds. They couldn't explain it. So anyway, so

552
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.000
there's a lot of stories like that. My estimation in

553
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.920
our current age right now, I've heard from dozens of

554
00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:00.360
people with sightings who will contact me through Facebook. There's

555
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.119
on my inestimation, there must be hundreds, if not more,

556
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.719
people who've had experiences out in the world here that

557
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.599
because of the ridicule factor, they don't want to talk

558
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.360
about this sighting. They all made fun of. Now the

559
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.000
reason why the rticull factor. There's a guy here called

560
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.400
Lee Hart. He's a comedian. He did his own show.

561
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.599
He went to America and made fun of people at

562
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.400
a bigfoot convention. So that's the kind of public kind

563
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.480
of humor that they have here. You know, they really

564
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.159
make fun of people. Now. I had a woman, three

565
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.199
girls actually not far from where I go, who saw

566
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.280
who went down to a treehouse out in the bush

567
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.199
at the back of this property up in the White

568
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:48.199
Techer Rangers. This was about two thousand and seven. They

569
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:52.320
go down to this treehouse, going down, you know, girls

570
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.960
about ten years about three of them. Well, they encountered

571
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.880
this thing down there that was about six feet high,

572
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.519
completely hairy. Red eye growled at them. One of them

573
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:04.679
was freak out. I don't know why I should pick

574
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.800
up a piece of wood, throws it at it. The

575
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:15.000
saint growls and starts making its way towards them. I

576
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.280
have no doubt that if this being wanted to take them,

577
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.760
it could have easily taken them, let alone an adult.

578
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.880
So there's a lot of stories like that here in

579
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.199
this country, but you will not hear about them in

580
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.360
modern media except for me. Stupid me. I painted a

581
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.159
big target on myself in this country because well, I

582
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:40.440
don't care very much. But anyway, so this I do

583
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.920
have some articles and use it on the Herald Radio

584
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.880
New Zealand. I do have some articles done about my

585
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.840
research here and also this documentary.

586
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:53.920
Really, what it sounds like is if people are wanting

587
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.239
to hear more of these encounters, the best resource is

588
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:01.760
what you're putting out, I mean like your YouTube channel

589
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.519
or documentary. And you said some articles as well, right.

590
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:11.159
Yes, yeah, there looking at pre seventies, around nineteen seventies earlier,

591
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.440
there are some accounts that you can read through press

592
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:18.159
rate adult Colm. I think it is just toping moy

593
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.480
how it's fascinating. I mean the real question is how

594
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:27.320
did they get here? I mean, yeah, the Australia Sasquatch,

595
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.079
North America on the South Pacific Way, one of the

596
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.639
most isolated countries in the world Island Country.

597
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.480
Absolutely, Oh my goodness, it's it's so many, so many

598
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.440
questions that you could go into so many rabbit holes

599
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.440
from there. But I would really want to make sure

600
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.280
that we are able to talk about so how was it,

601
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.400
you know, what did you do over at Skinwalker Ranch?

602
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:56.679
And more importantly, like you had a big foot encounter

603
00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:00.639
over there? There's not many documented big Foot encounters at Skinwalker.

604
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.079
I believe there's one in a book from a long

605
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:06.000
time ago, and there's like a portal involved. But I

606
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.559
would love to hear what you experienced over there.

607
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.800
Well, what led me to there? I had a tic

608
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.880
tac ufo siding in the desert. I nearly crashed my car.

609
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:18.920
I had this FILLI to pull over on the highway

610
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.719
outside now soon Nevada. I had a siding there, a

611
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.480
daytime siding of this craft. From that day forward, in

612
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.760
early January twenty thirteen, it turned my world upside down.

613
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.280
I needed answers, and I'm just very quickly passing through.

614
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.599
I learned about skin Walker Ranch and George Knapp and

615
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.000
the NIDS, the National Institute for Discovery Science study. Robert

616
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.079
Bigelow had paid a lot of his own money, using

617
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:52.400
a team of highly educated scientists across the spectrum the

618
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.480
study of what was going on, the cattle mutilations, things

619
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.480
that looked like Bigfoot. It wasn't stuff that just happened

620
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:03.800
on the prom but also outside. Now. I went there

621
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.119
just to figure out, well, why did I see this,

622
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.920
this this tictac ufo thing. I thought, well, that is

623
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.679
a legendary. I went there, you had to invite it

624
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.840
on the property. It's guarded twenty four to seven. That

625
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.079
thing is like the area one of the paranormal I

626
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:25.039
mean portal's been seen opening up. Even a couple of

627
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:30.039
scientists saw this yellowish a hole open up on the

628
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.119
field at night. One of them had night vision gar

629
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:34.840
probably familiar with the story. One of them is up

630
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:39.679
on the ridge line watching with his night vision. You

631
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.760
can see this, this huge creature comes through this hole

632
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.159
into this field. There's all kinds of wet stuff that

633
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.519
took place there. And now I knew I had to

634
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.199
go there for answers because that was, you know, one

635
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.360
of the most haunted places in America. And it wasn't

636
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.840
just there, it was also Fort de Shane. I talked

637
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.679
to some of the locals there when I went there.

638
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:07.719
One I interviewed Larry Cispoocht tribal leader, a spiritual leader

639
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:13.639
there where they saw weird stuff sometimes giant footprints in

640
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.599
the area. Anyway, so I went there. The first night,

641
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.920
I went to Southern Vantage, which is about a mile

642
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.440
or so south of the property. I had at nighttime,

643
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.320
I had all my cameras set up. The wind was

644
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.800
so strong, was shaking the car and so I was

645
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.840
outside in it. I had these strange lights that approached me,

646
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.280
and the colored lights that will do a ninety degree

647
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.880
turning in front of my face. Light lighting up my

648
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:46.719
face came really close. They went against the gusty wind. Now,

649
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.920
insects can't handle that kind of wind. So anyway, I

650
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.159
was like, can't be his fireflies because I mean they

651
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.960
went right against it. So the second night, I went

652
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.639
up to this veins location where locals sometimes go called

653
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.679
it's called Ufo Hill. Now it overlooks the skies above

654
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.519
skin Walker Ridge. You can't see the ranch directly, however,

655
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.400
you can see the the skies above the property over there.

656
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.880
I went up there for UFOs. Let's just face it.

657
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.320
I went there for UFOs. Skinwalker Runch is one of

658
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.679
those places that you go there you can plan for something,

659
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.079
but something else can happen. You know, you may not

660
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.119
have an experience, but I was one of those people.

661
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.440
Because of my background and my experiences, I wondered if

662
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:35.519
I was going to be like a magnet for this stuff.

663
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.559
So anyway, so I went up with my girlfriend up

664
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.639
on Ufo Hill. There sat and pitched block darkness up

665
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.480
on this hill, a rocky hill overlooking the area there,

666
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.679
and I had my laptop, had my camera set up.

667
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.800
I went there to record UFOs so we hear the

668
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.280
strange creature sound there. I don't know what the heck

669
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:00.639
it was. I got recorder on my audio. Then there

670
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.960
was a sound of like what sounded like an explosion.

671
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.639
I thought it was my badgy pack on one of

672
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.119
my devices that had blown up. I was looking checking

673
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.480
my gear. It was really loud. It was like a

674
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.840
little bomb going off. So I was looking. I couldn't

675
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.000
figure out what it was because all my gear seemed

676
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.880
to work. Now, going back over that footage a while after,

677
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:28.039
I realized it was an explosion. It was a rock

678
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:33.079
something through a rock right next to us. Now it

679
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:37.440
was pitch blackout there. Now what happened when we were there,

680
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.280
We had a tribal police officer pulled up because my

681
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:46.400
car was packed further down towards the road there, a

682
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.239
tribal police officer pulls up, pulls his car up and

683
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.000
checks out. It starts taking pictures of my car, and

684
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.320
you know, I had to be really careful because I'm like, oh,

685
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.960
I don't want to spook him, so I said hello, hello.

686
00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.800
You know, he couldn't see me because it because you know,

687
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.840
people you know, trigger happy, you know. But anyway, so

688
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.679
this tribal police officer was there. I said, look, what

689
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.679
are you doing out here? And you know with sky watching?

690
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.880
I just said, we're sky watching, not sky watching anyway.

691
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.280
So he says, just be careful out here. There's real

692
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.679
weird stuff that goes on out here, you know. And

693
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.440
I should have asked him. I should have asked him, well,

694
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.079
tell me more, you know, I should have. But anyway,

695
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.920
I felt like we're pushing out luck this sherry anyway,

696
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:33.239
So that was something. Now, I didn't have a proactive

697
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.599
interest in the sub subject of sasquatch at that time.

698
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.400
It wasn't until I I two years later I went

699
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.159
returned to my home country after some twenty years living

700
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.920
in America. Going back to his going to the world,

701
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.719
I suspect that I was followed across the world. All

702
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.840
this weird stuff started happening. I nearly died. I had

703
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.639
this shadow creature thing came right up to me. When

704
00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.960
I should have died. I had to medication in direct

705
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.159
that should have killed me. The shadow thing came right

706
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.920
up to me thrust something in my heart, which the

707
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.360
ambulance people were surprised is still alive. I had a

708
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.760
lot of weird stuff happened, so anyway, it's snowballed into

709
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.440
all these weird messages and recording. When people listen to it,

710
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.000
they have no frame of reverence. I get a deer

711
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.840
in the headlight lock. That's what I get. Now. A

712
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.199
lot of stuff has happened, and I suspect that, you know,

713
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.599
George Napp has talked about the piggyback effect or the

714
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.599
stalk or the piggyback effect of people who visit areas.

715
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:40.920
It is quite nine amongst panel investigators that you can

716
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:46.000
be followed from an area. So I suspect also with sasquatch,

717
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.119
we're talking about sasquatch, that they get to know you.

718
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.840
They get to know you, especially if you keep returning

719
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.400
to an area. You can build a relationship with them.

720
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:59.039
And I don't have to go too far. They will

721
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.800
interact with me. Now in the documentary, Actually, I've had

722
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.599
stones swamping across the world. When I say, you know

723
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.199
in America and also here in New Zealand. So pick

724
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.840
them up on camera. So I go frame by frame,

725
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.639
you can see now. I tried to replicate that throw.

726
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:18.159
I went down to the area during the day whatever

727
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:22.280
through that stone and a really good throwing arm. It's

728
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:26.440
really accurate. Now. I've taken people with me occasionally, some

729
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.400
people have never had experience like this before. Something will

730
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.480
come up close to us at nighttime and start clacking

731
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:38.559
stones together what I would describe stone clacking sounds. One

732
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.239
time we had a rock throwing a big bang right

733
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.880
next to us. I had a group of about sex

734
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:50.599
or five people. They're sitting in this location, this wild location, right,

735
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:56.719
really died yesterday, and it will affect other people too.

736
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:02.039
Sometimes you'll hear strange voices as well. So I knew

737
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.800
in the early days I had to record. My goal

738
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:06.440
was to record these voices.

739
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:19.239
Have you ever experienced in these same places? Let me

740
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:27.280
think batteries suddenly not working anymore, anything like that.

741
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:33.440
Yeah, So that is also associated with the paranormal, Like

742
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:35.760
you can go on investigations and all of a sudden,

743
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.239
you know you've checked your battery, everything's charged up. Stuff

744
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.000
will fail. There's skinwalker, right, I went there. I flew

745
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.599
a drone up there to get some al shots. Well,

746
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.280
it was an mix four hundred It was before the

747
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:54.199
head GPS guided drones. Well, this thing very strangely, I

748
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.360
flew it up completely. I was only about one hundred

749
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.000
or so feet away from me. Completely lost control, like

750
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:04.960
something blocked the radio signal and it went and crashed.

751
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:11.519
So I've been out there and I've had battery packs drained,

752
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:15.800
completely drained. So are they the ghosts of Bigfoot? You know?

753
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.800
You could say, you know, areas? Are they the ghost

754
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.800
of soldiers of back you know, hauntings and that? Are

755
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:26.519
they ghosts of former inhabitants? You could say, well are they?

756
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.400
Are they deceased Bigfoot? You know? Are they at the

757
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.480
astor versions of Bigfoot? You know? I have to think

758
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.840
of a lot of things to try and try to

759
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:38.519
find answers. You know, we have a theory, you know.

760
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:46.559
Oh absolutely so so as wild that if you cut

761
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.280
into Bigfoot after you went back to New Zealand, that

762
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.440
that is pretty cool. Do you ever feel like I

763
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.679
ever wish you could come back here to check out

764
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.199
places like the Pacific Northwest for Bigfoot activity? Do you

765
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:03.400
ever have that desire to maybe make another trip over here?

766
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.480
Well, I'd love to. I don't really make money of

767
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.960
what I do it's anything. You lose money when you

768
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:15.519
do this, particularly in this country. Yeah, sure, I would love.

769
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.920
I'd love to explore. I have to go to different places.

770
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:20.000
At least here I don't have to worry about snakes

771
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:25.800
or beers or coyones or mountain wines, cougars, you know what.

772
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:30.239
It doesn't have animals. The geography is very steep, slippery.

773
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.960
It makes up for in that absolutely. You've mentioned a

774
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:40.639
few areas in New Zealand where there's a ton of activity.

775
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.800
Are these areas also known for missing people as well?

776
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.599
Is that something that you deal with in your country too.

777
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.199
Well, there's an area not too far from where I

778
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.920
am where there's been a number of people who've gone

779
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:01.440
completely missing, neverhood of it ever again. A place called Piaha,

780
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:09.599
which actually borders the Tasman Sea. People you know, surfing spot,

781
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.800
people go there, they go on this this track higher

782
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:17.519
up towards the wild area. People go missing up there,

783
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.559
never heard of be heard of again. And we just

784
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.280
actually was another lady that just went missing. So some people,

785
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.440
you know, wonder what is their connection. There were stories

786
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.599
of for Mari that that sometimes that people would be taken.

787
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:39.079
There's even stories of some of these beings being cannibal

788
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.159
as well. There's the putter what they call the ferry

789
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.760
people that look more like us, but they look different

790
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.840
to Mari talked about taking people sometimes quickly through the air.

791
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:59.239
Very very strange stuff as this serial color operating there.

792
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:04.960
That's never been caught, quite possible. But as a researcher

793
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.559
going up there, nothing's tried to take me or harm me.

794
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.639
Scare experiences, yes, going out there. When you're in your

795
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.480
tent and you hear the sound of a tree getting

796
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:21.360
ripped down, that's that's freaky, you know. I took a

797
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:27.159
picture of these being started inviting me out there. It's

798
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.400
really I went down the rabbit hole on the subject.

799
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.880
They tore down about a dozen healthy trees, some of

800
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:39.719
them that the South Pacific palm trees, thek nook nookw palms.

801
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.719
They're resistant to hurricane force winds. These things very strong.

802
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:48.559
These trees were snapped at ninety degree angles, completely snapped,

803
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:50.639
about a dozen of them. And this morning, this was

804
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.599
where I got the picture of what I believe is

805
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:55.679
the more you held one of the New Zealand's book,

806
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.719
I suspect that they did that. There was no lie marks,

807
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.519
no saw marks in an area, It's very hard to

808
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.719
get to. Now the area has you know, when the

809
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.840
trees get torn down, you get overgrown, you know, the

810
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.719
trees start getting you know, all the carnage from the

811
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.639
trees start getting overtaken by the folage.

812
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:25.880
Have you ever checked any of your areas for intense

813
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:28.599
radiation readings or anything like that.

814
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.360
Well, I'd love to. I'd love to have some of

815
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:36.760
that scientific gear, but I've most of my focuses has

816
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:40.960
been on audio slash video. I have earlier in the

817
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:45.039
early days, I've done casting, but I carry a lot

818
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.039
of gear on me, including safety gear if something goes wrong.

819
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.000
So yeah, I think that would be interesting to see

820
00:53:55.719 --> 00:54:00.480
if if that fluctuates, you know, all theF levels. I

821
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.920
do have a K two media that panel visigators used,

822
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.519
but I I tend to try to recall the phenomena

823
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.000
because it does interact with me. But that that would

824
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:11.280
be very interesting to see.

825
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:16.840
Yeah, that, I think more researchers over here are starting

826
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.320
to look into that as well. Have there ever been

827
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:28.320
any reports that where where the witness is you know,

828
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.920
seeing something to the effective I heard a sound and

829
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.440
it seemed to like affect me physically like I had

830
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:42.039
my my chest was vibrating or I started feeling weird.

831
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.400
Anything over here we call it infrasound. I don't know.

832
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.039
Is that a thing that comes up over and your

833
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:48.880
area as well.

834
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:54.440
Yes, somewhatness to subscribe. The sound that they produced goes

835
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.400
right through your chest, very powerful. I've also had foot

836
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:05.119
footfalls like big thuds, like it's weird that the power

837
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:10.519
behind it is just weird. Sometimes it's described was a

838
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:14.760
dom Eastward park ranger I interviewed. He described going to

839
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.880
areas will be like a bubble, like you walk into

840
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:21.280
a bubble where all the wildlife goes completely quiet.

841
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:21.840
Yep.

842
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:26.119
Sometimes people describe that or like what I experienced too.

843
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:30.360
You know, the feeling of being washed, that that uneasy

844
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:32.280
you know, hairs stand up on the back of your

845
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:33.119
neck kind of feeling.

846
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:39.599
Okay, so you mention. So you've mentioned something a few

847
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:45.440
times where it's really interesting over here. You can't really

848
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.480
get any park rangers to talk, especially on record, because

849
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:54.039
they're very scared of losing their jobs. It's something where

850
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.000
stuff happens, but they don't want to talk to I've

851
00:55:56.000 --> 00:56:01.159
talked to one gentleman off record. But are you saying

852
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:06.280
that the park rangers over there, they are are they're

853
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.480
willing to be interviewed about what they've experienced. There's not

854
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.440
really a you know, or we can't talk about that,

855
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:14.519
like that doesn't exist type thing.

856
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:21.159
Well, I had this one contact me, Dom Eastwood, and

857
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:26.239
he contacted me. He just sometimes described would not hearing

858
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:34.280
woodknock up behind the mountains. The stone's being thrown when

859
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.960
they've got a tap over them, you know, being thrown horizontally,

860
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.440
not something dropping from a braw but not like seeds

861
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:45.400
or anything coming down stuff like that. So I was

862
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.920
very fortunate that he contacted me because he listened to

863
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:52.840
the howling that I recorded back and was an April

864
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:57.400
of twenty twenty two when I had picked up stones

865
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:03.800
being thrown, something very strong, very accurate. So he listened

866
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.320
to that. What he said, Yeah, I've heard the same thing,

867
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:11.199
not all that far from Mount moy how that area

868
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.039
where out in the corner of peninsula where there's a

869
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.920
lot of legends of these giants.

870
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.440
That area, I believe that was the same area you

871
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:23.840
said that you actually can't go up to the summit

872
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:31.880
because it's like is it sacred to for ancestral reasons or.

873
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.880
Yes, well they used to Maori used to carry they're

874
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:41.199
dead up this three thousand foot mountain and they bury

875
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.599
them at the top. So that's one reason it is

876
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:47.199
private properly up there. I heard of one man that

877
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:51.440
sneaked up over there and according to him said somebody

878
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:57.599
fired shotgown over their head. One of the reports I got, however,

879
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.760
that that's a very wild mountain up there. Now according

880
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:06.360
to somebody else, he reckons there's an ancient trick stone

881
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:12.440
up there. You know, this gets into forbidden archaeology, a

882
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:19.199
trick stone used for alignment. According to this man, I think,

883
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:23.440
what's Barry Belsford. I think it's so anyway, there's something

884
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.000
up there like that too. Now I have not I

885
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:29.000
have been to the footholes there. I have slept overnight

886
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:33.840
in the footholes. It's a very wild area. You know,

887
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:37.559
people sometimes die because they die if you don't go prepared.

888
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:40.880
You can die from exposure in these places.

889
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:47.599
Thank goodness. One other thing I wanted to to ask

890
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:55.880
you about in witness encounter. In witness encounters that get

891
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:03.599
reported to you, are people reporting anything, you know. Usually

892
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:08.159
it's referred to as telepathy or where they start hearing

893
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:11.480
communication inside their heads. Is that something that you have

894
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:15.079
come up in reports over there as well?

895
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:19.400
Well, not not a lot, not a lot. That's probably

896
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:22.159
one of the least reported that I get. It might

897
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:25.639
be because a lot of people are terrified when stuff

898
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.960
starts happening. The fair aspect, Now, if you are calm

899
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:33.440
and you're not having that fight or flight the adrenaline

900
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:37.440
flying through your system, I think it's your state of mind,

901
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:41.079
if you're calm, that you can have that kind of stuff.

902
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:44.480
But a lot of people that have these encounters experiences

903
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.719
are terrified. Some people don't want to go back in

904
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.320
the bush after that. Now I had something weird happened

905
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:54.360
after the stuff that was going on. The feelings are

906
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.280
being watched, the feelings are being followed, you know, the

907
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.119
sounds are being followed, that kind of thing. I I

908
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:03.119
heard a muttering sound out there and I felt like

909
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:06.519
whatever it was was two beings talking to each other

910
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:11.000
about me. And I said, look, I wasn't there for

911
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:15.360
too big footing or anything like that. Originally I was like, Oh,

912
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.480
I'm not here to harm you. I'm not here to

913
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:22.119
hurt you. Now something came through. Now this gets into

914
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:23.840
the wools, so this might be a friend to do

915
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.840
some people. I was in my house, something came into

916
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.280
my bedroom. I was laying on my bed on what

917
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.280
was quite wide awake. Something comes into my bedroom. I

918
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:39.239
could feel the energy come up to me, tapped my head,

919
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.320
shook the bed, and gave me a date to go

920
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.480
back there. Just basically put this date in my mind.

921
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.679
So that was mine speak. I went there that day.

922
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.320
I didn't know what the heck was going to happen,

923
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.199
so I'm going back into this area again. Something runs

924
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.559
past me through the bush like an elephant smashing through

925
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:03.400
the bush lot charging through next. I didn't get a visual,

926
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.400
but it was pretty freaky.

927
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:13.079
It is incredible how many similarities there are now. And

928
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.800
this might be old information to some listeners, but I mean,

929
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:26.400
you've got North America, New Zealand in Australia different in

930
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:30.159
some ways, but there's some similarities in the what you

931
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.719
guys are experiencing and what we are experiencing and what

932
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.400
they are over in Australia and I know other you know,

933
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:39.159
there's the almasty in Russia as well, and in the

934
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:42.320
year and in China, and it's just very very interesting

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how there's so many similarities in this phenomenon all over

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the world, and hopefully someday we will get answers. But Mark,

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it has been just a fascinating conversation. I just want

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to say thank you so much for coming on on

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the show today and for answering all my questions about,

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01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.519
you know, what you've got going on over there in

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01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:10.079
New Zealand which I had no idea about. Do you

942
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.679
mind spending a bit of time talking about how people

943
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.880
can you know, want watch the documentary that you've been

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01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:21.639
telling us about, and also how they can keep up

945
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.320
to date with your research. If you have a YouTube

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01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:25.800
channel or anything like that.

947
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.400
Well I can see it all on Mountain of Entities

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01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:34.639
just typing into YouTube. So look me up that way.

949
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.920
Documentary took ten years to make. Next rat involves a

950
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.119
lot from skin Walker, aren't you. I think I've titled

951
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:50.039
Bigfoot UFO documentary I it got released in late twenty

952
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.039
twenty three. How about the following year I did it

953
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.440
up putting it up on YouTube for people to see.

954
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.639
So watch all the way through the in folks, because

955
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:02.719
you will hear those very strange voices out there. I

956
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:05.880
take someone with me towards the end, of the documentary.

957
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.719
There's a radio show that I go in and with

958
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.480
ask some questions, good questions. I take somebody with me

959
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.760
who's never experienced this stuff out there, who's familiar with

960
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:19.079
the folklore, and you can see what happens when I

961
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.719
take somebody with whether we find footprints. There's other stuff

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01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.920
that goes on. You can so it gets documented on

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01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:30.679
video and on audio along with this, which I believe

964
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.920
is possibly one of the moy Hel's. The New Zealands bigfoots.

965
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:38.960
Fascinating all on there, Mark, I'm sure there'll be some

966
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:43.079
people from New Zealand listening to this. If there are,

967
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.079
and they do have experiences they'd like to report to you,

968
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.519
is there a way that they can reach out to

969
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:51.599
you to share what they've encountered in New Zealand as well?

970
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.360
Well? They can either get hold of me through Facebook

971
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:57.960
just look me up. There's very few people with my

972
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:02.840
name all they could just go through my YouTube channel.

973
01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:07.599
I read the comments and quite often I respond, look,

974
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.960
I just had a man earlier this year down Mary Mary.

975
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:14.440
Him and his wife saw a big flour hot of

976
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:19.239
forestry ride driving to Napier. When they pulled over here,

977
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.519
they can just contact me through Facebook or through my

978
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.639
YouTube channel the best ways.

979
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:30.400
Fantastic. Well, Mark Copple, thank you so much for coming

980
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.440
on again, and you know, definitely keep us in the

981
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:38.880
loop if things continue to happen down there in New Zealand.

982
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:42.239
We would love to hear about it sometime in the future,

983
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:45.960
and I'm sure we'll definitely I'll be following along with

984
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.400
things you continue to put out. But thanks so much, Mark.

985
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:50.880
I appreciate you coming on today.

986
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:57.480
Thank you for having me Jeremy, I much appreciate it.

987
01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.800
Before we wrap this episode, I want to see something

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01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.159
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

989
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:06.920
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

991
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a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

992
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:16.119
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

993
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:19.400
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

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the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

995
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.280
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

996
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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

997
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who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense,

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if you're in the logging industry, on a remote oil field,

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or a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something

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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

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anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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And see you in the woods.