May 19, 2026

Our Dog Knew First… Then It Screamed in the Dark

Our Dog Knew First… Then It Screamed in the Dark
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Season 1

A remote yurt in the Colorado mountains. A terrified dog staring into the tree line. Heavy footsteps in the dark. A powerful sulfur smell rolling through camp. Then a guttural scream followed by the sound of something massive pushing over a tree just feet away.



Bernie Duran shares his unforgettable firsthand encounter near Glenwood Springs, Colorado, and why he’s returning to the exact same location in search of answers.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right.

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Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode. We've got

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the privilege of talking to Bernie Duran today. Bernie, how

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are you doing.

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Sir, I'm doing well. Thank you for having me.

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Absolutely a few things about Bernie before we get into it.

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We got introduced over on the tic side of things, right,

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that's right, Yeah, Big for Society on TikTok is wild West.

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If you're not into it over there, you're missing out

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on some good times. A few things about Bernie. Bernie

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is an army veteran based out of Colorado Springs. Thank

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you for your service, sir. You are a nature enthusiast,

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also into horror a little bit as well, some horror novels,

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maybe some Stephen King.

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I don't know. That's all I know about horror novels.

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So, and as we were saying about but off air,

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you're kind of the guy known in your friend group,

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the bigfoot guy. Now after what happened?

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Correct, Yes, so this has followed me around. You know,

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it's not a bad thing. It's something I embracefleheartedly. But

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the downside, or it could be an upside, is I

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get all these fun, big but things for my birthday

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and from friends for whatever occasion.

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So SAME's it's a blessing and a curse. But I

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like it more as it's definitely more blessing for me

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because I have so many big fo mugs. Are there

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any other things that the listener would want to know

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about yourself before we get into what happened?

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I don't think so. I'm I'm an open book. I'm

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open to any questions, any scrutiny. I'm I got no

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reason to lie to you. I would just I know

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what happened. When when I did have this encounter, I

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was in like suspended disbelief for maybe about a week.

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But I think I've I've come to terms with with

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what this really meant for for me, as you know,

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as a little kid who grew up with no supervision

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on the Internet and sugar cereal and TV. I you know,

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I lived for the cryptids. I lived for for hopping

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on YouTube seeing if there's anything new, any new trail

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cam footage anywhere.

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So this was a This was a big moment for

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me in my life. It's something I'm never gonna forget. Okay,

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So that's really interesting. So you are actually into bigfoot

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in things before you had this happen to you?

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Absolutely? Okay? Interesting?

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Were you maybe one more question and then I'll let

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you share your account.

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Were you.

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Going into this trying to have an encounter or was

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it something where it just happened to you.

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No, sir, I wasn't looking for any trouble going out

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into the woods. I kind of I do a good

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job of setting my intentions when I'm out there, you know,

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knowing not to horse around, but anything I don't understand,

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and I think that's what keeps me alive in the woods.

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So no, I didn't go out there looking for an experience.

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It was something that's always been, you know, kind of

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in the back of my mind just living in Colorado.

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You can't escape it here. And when when I got

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to like the nearest town, we were in Glenwood's glen

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Wood Springs. So the nearest town is like all Bigfoot.

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It was bigfoot everything. You couldn't find it. You know,

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there was more Bigfoot than you could shake a stick up.

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And so having like that preconceived notion, I was like,

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all right, so we probably got something out here, but

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I did it in any sense go looking for any trouble.

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Absolutely this area has and we are leaving this as

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to I believe the mountains mountainous area around Glenwood Springs.

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the map on Big for Society podcast dot com. Type

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in Glenwood Springs, Colorado, and you can kind of get

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the area of what we're talking about. I mean, you've

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got Grand Masa down to the southwest that's come up

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on the show. You've got the Maroon Bells Wilderness in

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snow Mass Lake a little little south and so there

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this area. We've kind of been around it. We've actually

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been Salt Park up to the north that's been on

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the show, but this is the first time that Glenwood

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Springs has come up. So you know, feel free, Bernie

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to take us back to you know what it was

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like that day the year if you can remember in

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all those.

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Good details and we'll get right into it all right, absolutely,

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So this all happened about mid May last year. I

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was going on a friend's trip for a birthday party.

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So there was four people in total. There was me,

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my girlfriend, and her two friends, and we also brought

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our dog along with us. So when we were in

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Glenwood Springs, the the atmosphere, like I said that, it

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was like the entire time just breathed Bigfoot. I got

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a couple of commemorative T shirts there. You know, you

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found taverns on the corner that were Bigfoot themed. Everything

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was Bigfoot like. That kind of seemed like that was

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their claim to fame. Beautiful town, beautiful people. To get

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me wrong, they have an awesome hot springs and that's

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what we were there doing. We got a yurt up

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in the mountains around Glenwood Springs and so we often

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had to make the drive. I think we made that

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drive maybe six times to and from Gleblin Springs. So

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this happened on the tail end of our trip. We

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spent about three days out there, and the weather was clear.

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There were blue skies all day. The entire time we

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were there. There was a landslide that happened. I believe

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that was unrelated to Bigfoot, but amazing nonetheless. So we

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had gotten to the yurt on our last day. That

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entire day we were enjoying like the Hot Springs and

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just being about the town. So we get back to

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the York kind of late. Is about an hour driving

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to the mountains. Fifteen minutes into the drive, you lose

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cell service, so you're just driving on a hope and

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a prayer. And while we were there, it's about midnight.

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So we had arrived about midnight after our day at

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the Hot Springs, and I had driven us out into

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the mountains and the girls we were with wanted a campfire.

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They were feeling a little munchy, so we decided to

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make something delicious. You know. We had some charcuterie nachos.

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They were awesome. Beside the point, my point was that

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it was really late. It was about midnight when we

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got this fire going. So we're hanging out maybe ten minutes.

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We got the nachos on, bring them inside, and we

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had our Like I said, we had our dog with us.

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So we're out in the mountains. Super small town. The

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nearest town at about one hundred and thirty two people

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in it when I googled their population. We were by

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a river bed. Well, there was a river down at

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the base of the mountain. There's plenty of wildlife. We

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were maybe sitting about ten thousand feet because tree line

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wasn't that much higher above us. But it started at

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midnight with our dog freaking out. So our puppy was

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tied up around us and she was like, you know,

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just running in and around our legs, around the chairs,

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just getting all caught up, and she was watching the

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tree line off and behind me to my left. So

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my girlfriend at the time was like, all right, we're

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gonna put you inside the yurt, and the two girls

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we were with followed. When Jesse comes back, it's my

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girlfriend's name. When she came back, she let me know

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that our puppy, Cleopatra, was like full blown crying, full

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blown crying when she puts her in the yurt. And

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that's like that ties in later. That was very important

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to me because, like, I understand this dog. I know

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when this dog has to poop before it even knows

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it has to poop. So to think that my dog

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maybe picked up on something that I didn't was pretty

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and nerving. So, like I said, at this point, the

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other two girls have gone inside. It was late enough,

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we had a long enough day. I decided I was

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going to smother the fire. So I go inside the yurt,

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get myself a pot of water, and my girlfriend at

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the time, well she's still my girlfriend, but at the time,

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she walked out and she went to use the restroom,

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which was separate but not too far, maybe fifteen fifteen paces. Sorry,

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my cat's going crazy, so maybe like a fifteen paces

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away from where we were at the yurt. I'm inside

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filling up this pot of water, and she starts screaming,

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bloody murder. Something something spoofed her outside in the dark,

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and you could see all the stars. It was beautiful,

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but pitch black, pitch black. You couldn't see what's in

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the woods. So I run out there with a pot

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of water, and you know, she greets me on these

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steps and she's like, oh my gosh, I swear there

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were footsteps in the woods behind me, out in the

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tree line, their footsteps. So I was like, all right,

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get inside, grab yourself a pot of water. We're gonna

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smother this fire. The night is over. My bad, I

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forgot to add a important detail about that time. There

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was a smell of sulfur, so like the entire area

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smelled like sulfur. It was just really strong and like

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I could feel the hairs on my nose like burning up.

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It was so stinky. So the entire area smells like sulfur.

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My girlfriend just screamed because she heard something out in

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the woods. I've got a pot of water. I head

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out to the fire to smother it. She follows me

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out with her pot of water. So at this point

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we both doused this fire and we're just standing in

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complete darkness. And at this moment, about thirty feet off

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to my right, which kind of makes sense for like

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the trajectory that this thing would have been on as

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it walked through the ao, so it my dog picked

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up on it as it was back here. And then

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Jesse starts screaming about the time it's walking behind the

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yurt and now that we're standing outside in the pitch dark.

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After we put out this fire. Often to my right,

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I hear a guttural yowl, something that goes and immediately

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right after, like no pause, a tree got pushed over.

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And my girlfriend and I we had we had experienced this,

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you know, this landslide earlier in the day. That was

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like the first thing that happened when we got there.

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We heard this landslide and we remember how thunderous it was,

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how it rolled all the way down the mountain. So

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as soon as we heard this ooh and like that

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was enough to stop us in our tracks. The tree

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gets pushed up and we thought, or at least I

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knew in my heart that I thought there was another

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landslide happening. I was like, wow, this is another landslide.

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And you could hear this thing come down and all

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the destruction as it pushes trees and shrubs to the side,

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and then the noise was over. Something just and in

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that moment I had this split second where Jesse and

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I look at each other and we had like this

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mental connection that party was over. We're getting inside the yurt.

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Whatever's out here does not want us out here, so

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we're walking our way back up to the yurt. We're

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hurrying back to the yurt, and we heard the yowl

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one last time, but seemingly further off in the distance.

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This all probably happened within about six minutes. This is

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a very shortening kind but everything happening all at once.

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Like I can explain something going bump in the night

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in the forest, I can explain that away all I want,

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But I can't explain my dog picking up on it.

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All footsteps in the woods, a yowl in the woods

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that could be chalked up to any schizophrenic ramblings of

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any army vet. But knowing that my dog was like

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visibly shaken and maybe picked up on something that I

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hadn't really solidified it in me that I had a

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genuine encounter with something. It's something where we don't something

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we don't acknowledge all the time. And that night was

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pretty short. Like I said, once we got inside, we

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were all very tired. We had a very long day

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out in Lindwood Springs and the next morning it was

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it was high tail it. We did everything we could

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to pack up, clean leave the site. Good is new

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for whoever else would want to use it. But we

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have made the decision to go back to the same spot,

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same location, same town, but this year. And you know,

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part of that was my decision because I feel like

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maybe for the first time in my life, I'm the

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closest to an answer than than I've ever been. And

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I don't think I don't think you can blame me

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for that.

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No, I wow, that that is wild. I don't blame

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you at all. I mean, I'm very similar where you

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get the you get the place where stuff is happening,

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and then why would you focus on why would you

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go anywhere else? Like if you know that this is

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the area that stuff is going and I mean, what

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what would you say? Your goal is is through through

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all this, Bernie.

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The goal is is I want the truth for myself.

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And that's why I'm not so necessarily worried about putting

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this location on a map or being so you know,

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leading the bandwagon for everybody to go out and find it.

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I do think that these creatures need to be respected.

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Their land needs to be respected, and their boundaries for

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certainly need to be respected. But the only reason I'm

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going back is I kicked myself in the butt every

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day for a year for not having gone out to

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look for that tree, for not having gone out to

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look for any signs that something may have been through

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the woods. But it is also just a very beautiful spot,

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very beautiful secluded. I like my privacy. I'm I'm kind

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of burnt out on people.

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I get you so, And it sounds like you already

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answered this in a way. But were you noticing sometimes

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in Bigfoot related areas, you might notice just things that

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seem out of place, whether it's from the way that

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certain trees look or even indentations in the ground.

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Was there anything that.

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May have stuck out to you as other clues as

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well that you noticed that next day?

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No, No, there's nothing that really piqued my interest. Like

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I said, I didn't really go out and check for

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check for a fallen tree. I know that would make

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my story a lot more credible. I know that would

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it maybe solidify it for some people. But there was

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nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe in the moment. Maybe

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in the moment, because there was the other two nights

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before that, there was lots of wild life. You know,

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it just seemed like I was in a perfect untouched

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part of the world. But the night was pretty still.

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I guess I could give you that.

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And when you say the night was still, can you

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go into a little bit what does that mean to

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you when you say the night was still?

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So when I let me elaborate exactly, So, there's just

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this feeling that you're being watched. I'm pretty naturally paranoid,

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and the military didn't help me in that aspect. But

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I don't think I remember any birds that night. I mean,

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it was also been dyed. I don't know. I don't

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know if birds are up at that time of the

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night making any noise. But it was pretty still. There

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wasn't anything rustling around in the forest around us. Yes,

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the wind wasn't too crazy. I mean we had all

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the all the leeway to build a fire. Nothing that

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super stood out to me in that moment. I think

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I was really just hyper focused on the smell, how

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my dog was reacting and handling these other three people.

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So it was there were more people there than just

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you and your girlfriend. Correct, Yes, there were four people

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all together.

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Okay, So the question I have then is.

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The next morning, was there a conversation with them about

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what happened? Did they experience anything as well? Things like that?

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Absolutely so, Well, one of them were not really friends

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with anymore. So yeah, they who shall not be named whatever,

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But we did have a really good friend who went

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along with us, and they are more of a bigfoot,

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like they had been more seeped in the world than

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I had been at the time. And on our way

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out from glen Wood, we stopped at a McDonald's and

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we kind of waited for that other person to like

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hit the restroom, and we talked to our friend. We

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were like, hey, me and my girlfriend were outside, we

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put out the fire. This is what they heard or

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this is what we heard. And our friend, her name

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is Becca. I'm just gonna it makes it easier to

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keep the story straight. So we're talking to Becca, and

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you know, we tell her that outside we heard the yowl,

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she heard the tree fall, but she didn't hear the yowl.

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So when we explained, or when I explained when I

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recreated the guttural call, she looked like she had just

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seen a ghost, chills all over the body, and she

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was like, I got to pull this up on YouTube.

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You guys got to see what I see because I've

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seen this before. I know, like I've heard that call

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before in different videos of people who have just gotten

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lucky enough to hear a call. So you know, color

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my surprise when that's the same call in a different pitch,

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in a different tone in other parts of the world.

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I think I believe she showed me a video from

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maybe California.

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Oh, I wonder if did it sound like it was

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almost like a weird type of language what she showed you,

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or an act well cowl?

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I could I could pick up the similarities in the pattern.

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Like I said, the yowl I heard clear as day,

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about thirty feet to my right, maybe the length of

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a school bus off into the woods where you couldn't see.

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I heard this thing start off low and it goes oooo,

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and that was very indicative of the So when she

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showed me this video, I'll have to I'll have to

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find it. It may have not have been from California,

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but she showed me a series of bigfoot calls that

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had the same cadence, the starting loan and.

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Then yep, okay, very interesting. I wonder it might have

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been the sier sounds. I don't know, but we'll have

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to see. Yeah, if you can track that down, that

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would be interesting.

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Absolutely.

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So have you Okay, so you mentioned that Glenwood Springs

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is a bigfoot town, and I know there's you know,

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so like let's say, for example, I know Bailey, Colorado,

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You've got the the museum there that this Sasquatch outpost

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with Jim Myers does so does glen Wood have like

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a center for bigfoot people to go to in any way,

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or like a general store or anything like that.

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I don't think that they had a I didn't see

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any one dedicated place. It just kind of seemed like

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it was, you know, not taboo to talk about. You know,

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I could go out to New York and start talking

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about Bigfoot. Everybody's gonna look at me crazy. But I

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feel like most of the people out there had known

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somebody or maybe seen something themselves where you know, they

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would be okay living in a society that kind of

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structures their tourism around Bigfoot. Right. Have you talked to

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anyone from.

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That area about what happened and gotten their take about it?

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No? But I see how that'd be an awesome idea.

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Yeah, it would be extremely interesting. Another thing that would

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be really cool, since you know the exact location, would

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be to go to resources such as I mean, you

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could coach like the Bigfoot Mapping project, go to the

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siting map I have, or the BFRO all that good stuff.

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Have you ever done that to see if there's been

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actual documented experiences close to that same area where you

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had yours?

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Yes, I did, very briefly, maybe within the first month,

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maybe the first week of me being back from glen

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Wood Springs. I did look at a map and I

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can't remember which group it was, but I did look

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at like a like a big Foot siding map, and

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I compared what everything else looked like see the area

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where I was. I didn't see very many hits, maybe

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maybe three or four and this is a year ago.

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Well, I mean that's that can be a good thing, though,

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because you don't have to worry about sometimes when you

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go to bigfoot areas, you have to worry about there

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being crossover from other Bigfoot peop Not to say that

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this is another Bigfoot person pushing down trees.

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In the woods, but you get what I mean.

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Like, if you go to the state forest in Iowa

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that was on finding Bigfoot, there's probably a chance that

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the bigfoot vocalization you hear could be another Bigfoot researcher.

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That's kind of how it goes right.

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I's not that, but that's kind of cool that you

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have an area that is in a way kind of

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off the map when it comes to other bigfooters. Now,

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when you go back, do you have a game plan

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of things you might try the same or try differently

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in order to get more of the truth of what's

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going on.

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This time, I definitely want to understand the ecology of

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the system a little better. I'm not just going to

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straight up bigfoot hunt. This is a reoccurring trip that

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I will be taking every year. We're making it a

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yearly trip. It was an awesome place, so I think

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this the goal for this trip is to understand the

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understand the biome, understand all the animals that live there,

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and kind of get a good mental map because I've

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got sort of I've got my theories on what makes

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bigfoot happy? Gotcha? Gotcha?

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And and so I have to ask what theories do

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you have so far? So I have two major theories.

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I don't know if this is something you've heard.

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If it is, please correct me, please, you know, set

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me straight on the record. But the first is that

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I believe from the location and where I was and

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where I had this experience that bigfoot can detect cell

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towers can detect cell signals in the same way that

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maybe birds can detect magnetic frequencies, and that's how they

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know where they're going every year. This place, like I said,

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one hundred and thirty two people on Google. When I

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looked at their population, that was the nearest town, and

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there was not a sign of anybody outside. I saw

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some people's dogs, there was a lot of wildlife, but

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I didn't see anybody outside, like mowing their lawns or

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taking care of anything. Even like the the like municipal

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buildings that they had, like their post office didn't have

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anybody in it. And so that led me to believe

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that like, hey, there's a small population of people here.

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They probably got like satellite phones or something, but sell signals.

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Like I said, there was forty five minutes where I

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was just driving into the mountains no cell signal. So

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I'm just you know, fingers crossed, looking at the map, hope,

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and I make every right turn.

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That's really interesting, I think, Man, I've never heard that

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exact way of talking about it, but I think that

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I think you're on the right track where it seems

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like when you bring electronics into it, it does something.

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Also another thing I've I've heard recently that people are

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thrown around is that they find when wind turbines are

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put up in an area that it messes with the activity.

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And I don't know if there's any truth to that,

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but that's something interesting to think about. So, are there

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any streams or like water sources around this area.

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Yes, at the base of the mountain, down by where

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the town was and pretty much leading all the way

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up there, there was a there was a major river. Okay.

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So and I am not an expert at this at all,

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but something that I have started to look into is,

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I know there are some people out there where they

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are collecting the DNA by taking a small vial of

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water from water sources that are known to be you know,

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that are in known hotspots or where there's activity. And

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so that might be something to consider. Finding a laboratory

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that could take in DNA samples and you know, potentially

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give you the information about, Okay, what kind of individuals,

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what kind of animals are using this water source, because

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I would say, you know, if you've got a bigfoot

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in this area and they're probably drinking out of that water.

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That's my absolutely yeah, no, absolutely. So you know, one

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thing to note from my encounter was this yao, like

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I said, was maybe a school school bus distance away,

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a large school bus. By the time we got to

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the steps, it was maybe maybe fifty yards maybe half

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a half a football field the way this this thing

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made off quick. And you know, if you're tall, you

467
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.880
got long legs, that's going to help you scale a mountain.

468
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:18.319
I think having that, if we accept that as a

469
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.319
fact that a bigfoot gets around because he's got big

470
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.200
feet and long legs, that that would necessarily make sense

471
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:26.440
to me.

472
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:33.400
Another cool thing that you could do, if you don't

473
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.119
have it on your phone already, is there's an app

474
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.720
called the Merlin App, and it is one that's used

475
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:47.039
by really intense bird watchers. But what it does is

476
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.680
it has an audio library of every bird in the

477
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.240
north in the US. So what you can do is

478
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.920
you download the app. It doesn't cost anything, and then

479
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.480
you download this huge data file, which is every bird

480
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.839
in the U. But then you're in an area and

481
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.079
then you use your phone to actively listen. So if

482
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:09.839
you hear vocalization, take your phone out real quick, and

483
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.160
then it will tell you if it's if it lines

484
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.359
up with anything in the North American Bird Library that

485
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:22.319
has and it'll tell you. It'll show you. Also, they'll

486
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.640
show you a spectrograph or a spectrogram of what the

487
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.559
what the actual sound looks like as it's happening, and

488
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.319
you can record it. So if you want to really

489
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.279
get into it and use some kind of gadgety things,

490
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.720
I would really recommend that you get that on your phone.

491
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.359
Doesn't cost anything, you just got downloaded at all. And

492
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.000
that has helped me a few times out in the

493
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.240
field like an Oregon, because then you can be like, oh,

494
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:50.000
I might not know all the birds around here, but

495
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.000
there's a way where I can easily scan it, which

496
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:53.559
is pretty cool.

497
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:57.480
Absolutely, that sounds super awesome, and I love watching birds.

498
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.960
Oftentimes I'll go out and identify a bird and then

499
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.440
look for it. It's just one of my one of

500
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.960
my tism powers right back at you.

501
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:12.920
Although I'm probably not diagnosed, but hey, that's what I

502
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.680
get for growing up in the eighties, So good, good,

503
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.440
good stuff. Now, experiencing this, has it changed your viewpoint

504
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:27.759
at all about how you about how what you view

505
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:33.440
bigfoot as Sometimes when people have these experiences, it changes

506
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.519
their viewpoint. M hmm.

507
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:44.599
I think it definitely solidified. It solidified something in me where,

508
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.799
you know, like I said, I was growing up watching

509
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:53.319
all these testimonies, watching these videos on bigfoot, and it's

510
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.119
a little bittersweet. It's a little bittersweet because maybe I

511
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.640
was more of a skeptic back then. But now all

512
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.799
I have is is events, and they all they all

513
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:10.400
point to to a big foot encounter and that you know,

514
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.480
maybe these people who they might look crazy, they might

515
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.200
smell crazy, maybe they're not so crazy. Yeah, absolutely, I

516
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.880
think that. I think that definitely. You know, I was

517
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.119
definitely reflecting on that because now I am one of

518
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.200
those people. Now I'm on the other side and and

519
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.640
I'm not it's not so bad. Yeah, it's really not

520
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:31.880
that bad. I'm right there with you.

521
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:37.160
It would be cool if you could try to replicate

522
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.160
the circumstances as much as much as possible. Although I

523
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.640
know one of the individuals you're not friends with anymore,

524
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.319
but you know, having like your girlfriend there, having the

525
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.400
dog there, things like that, that might be kind of

526
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.720
a cool deal. But you know, sometimes it's hard to

527
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:56.039
do that. But you know, Bernie, I am really looking

528
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.000
forward to I hope that you know, once you you

529
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.920
have that next trip out there, and you know, to

530
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:08.279
see what you're able to get interaction wise, evidence wise,

531
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:09.920
it would be great to hear from you, and so

532
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.160
I hope that you're able to reach out with any

533
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.240
information once you get out there again.

534
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.160
No, of course, it's something that I'm looking forward to.

535
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.920
I am I'm doing I'm really doing my part to

536
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:26.039
understand and study the lay of the land. Like I said,

537
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:30.039
there during the daytime, there was plenty of wildlife they had,

538
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.720
there was access to fresh water, fresh running water, and

539
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.680
about one hundred and thirty two people you got to

540
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:41.400
worry about as opposed to a larger city or as

541
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:48.319
opposed to, you know, closer closer to civilization. And I

542
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.279
would like to talk about one of my other theories,

543
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.160
if that's all right, Yeah, absolutely, go right. So this

544
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.920
this was kind of I connected these two dots while

545
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.759
I was at I was at the Nature Museum Denver.

546
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.799
So there there's an exhibit on wooly mammoths and they

547
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.960
kind of talk about elephant and how these gigantic animals

548
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.960
had huge padded feet and this is still tree today.

549
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.960
Elephants have padded feet and it enables them to move

550
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:26.920
silently through the savannah. And really, I was also thinking

551
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.840
about Tyrannosaurus Rex, because I guess Tyrannosaurus Rex might have

552
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.440
had the same deal going on. But and then that

553
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:36.400
led me down this rabbit hole of looking at all

554
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.039
the casts of big foot feet that are out there,

555
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:44.119
and I was thinking to myself, what like the anatomical

556
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:49.039
bone structure might look like under that huge cast. Bigfoot

557
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.760
has big feet, He's probably got a lot of fat

558
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.119
and a lot of patting, which would aid and keeping

559
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.480
them stealthy and silent the same way it happens with elephants.

560
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.199
That's a really cool theory. Yeah, I don't think I've

561
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.239
actually heard anyone go into that, but.

562
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:11.840
Let's make let's call both these things the Bernie theory.

563
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.039
I'm putting let's put my name on it, dude, where

564
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.440
you're putting your foot down that it's the Burnie theory.

565
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:24.079
It is document here you go. Sorry, Yeah, I saw,

566
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:25.639
I saw the moment. I just had to take it.

567
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.719
I love it. I love it. But I think he

568
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.920
might have something there. And I'm surprised that hasn't come

569
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.320
up on the show before. I don't think it ever has.

570
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.079
But I've been thinking about this for a long time.

571
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.159
And I think a lot of it is you're going

572
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:45.159
into this with with the right mindset, with the right intention.

573
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.840
You're not getting out there like, Okay, we're going to

574
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:49.440
get out there, We're going to bag a big foot,

575
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.880
like no, this is not what I'm picking up from you,

576
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.320
which I think is going to definitely help you.

577
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.519
The more that people have the right.

578
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.519
Mindset and don't go out there like I'm going to hunt,

579
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.719
I'm going to take over stuff like that, You're you're

580
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.280
more than likely going to have more interactions and then

581
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:15.199
discover more info information about the area, what's in the area,

582
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.079
and and hopefully about Bigfoot itself. But you know, Bernie,

583
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.880
it has been a really fun conversation with you. I

584
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.119
don't get to talk to people, as I was saying,

585
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.480
from Colorado a lot, so it's always, you know, special

586
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.440
when you're able to come on the show. But I

587
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.639
want to make sure was there anything else that you

588
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.760
would wanted to share coming to the show today or

589
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.079
do you think we were able to cover everything you

590
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.480
had set aside?

591
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.960
I think this was pretty you know, over encompassing for

592
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:48.960
just the six minutes of my life where I encountered Bigfoot,

593
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.639
and that's what it is. You can't you can't convince

594
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.559
me otherwise. I was out there, I smelled it, I

595
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.440
saw it, I heard it. It would have been better if,

596
00:36:58.360 --> 00:36:59.599
you know, it would have been better if we had

597
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.880
the connection moment, a little a little hand to hand

598
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.039
to let him know I'm there for him because I

599
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:10.360
believe in Bigfoot, he believes in me. No. I think

600
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.280
this was a this was perfect. I'm glad I found you.

601
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.280
Thank you for the community. I hope, I hope we

602
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.000
can get some more people in on the conversation and

603
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.159
hopefully we can get some more theories gone, because I

604
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.480
think I've got I've got something going with Bernie theory. Yeah,

605
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:27.480
they met. It's it's the first Bernie theory I've heard of.

606
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:28.159
So there you go.

607
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.719
But man, thank you so much for coming on the show.

608
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.639
And as I said, you know, we'll definitely keep in

609
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.360
touch with what comes down the road next for you

610
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.760
when you go back to that area. But thanks again, Bernie, Hey,

611
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.760
thank you so much. Have you ever heard all the

612
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:47.039
accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think

613
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.719
to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in

614
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.119
those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what

615
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:57.320
this year you can If this is interesting to you,

616
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:02.119
stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is

617
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.239
coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six.

618
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.599
It's gonna be even better than the previous year's reason

619
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.880
number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna

620
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:19.320
be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be

621
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.360
stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say

622
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.280
sometimes it's well, you just gotta be there. We'll leave

623
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.239
at that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods.

624
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.039
Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from

625
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:41.320
his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you

626
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:44.199
can not only go to the festival, but you can

627
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:51.960
also sign up for a track deep in the wild

628
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.639
forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot

629
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.719
spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to

630
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.199
sign up for this, and yes, this will also be

631
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.800
filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which

632
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.320
is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a

633
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:12.800
lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be a

634
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:18.280
wild wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over

635
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to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the

636
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637
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get a two day pass for the price of a

638
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one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me

639
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that code so that you guys can.

640
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.519
Can get a little a little help.

641
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.519
With the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to

642
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.880
see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We

643
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.199
can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to

644
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.760
so many people last year and the year before. It

645
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.639
is an incredible time. You're not going to want to

646
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:04.199
miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap

647
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.559
this episode, I want to say something directly to a

648
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.800
very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

649
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.599
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

650
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.480
no one can explain, or if you're a National Park

651
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.800
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

652
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.760
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on

653
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.159
the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency,

654
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.559
or working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something you're not

655
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.880
allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

656
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.320
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

657
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.360
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

658
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.199
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

659
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:48.159
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

660
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:52.119
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

661
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.679
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

662
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.440
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

663
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.719
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

664
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.199
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

665
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.760
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

666
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.559
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

667
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:19.440
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

668
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.679
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

669
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.519
what you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

670
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:32.880
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

671
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.440
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

672
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.679
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673
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.239
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

674
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.199
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

675
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692
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693
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694
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695
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