May 20, 2026

Tennessee Went Wild: Screams in the Dark, Trees Exploding & a Creature That Vanished on Thermal

Tennessee Went Wild: Screams in the Dark, Trees Exploding & a Creature That Vanished on Thermal
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Season 1

Multiple witnesses gathered in the Tennessee woods at the Tennessee Cryptid Campout, put on by Randy Hutchings and the Fortean TN group, for one unforgettable week—and what happened next still has everyone talking. In this intense episode, hear firsthand reports of moving knocks, terrifying screams in the darkness, a massive tree crash that shook the forest, strange odors, voices in the night, and a mysterious figure that appeared on thermal and vanished moments later. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when experienced investigators enter an active area together, this is the episode you need to hear.

Resources:

More info about the Tennessee Cryptid Campout here:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573643865014

Hell Bent Holler:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXmKRY26NchurqMtWF4pXkA

Sasquatch Theory:
https://www.youtube.com/@SASQUATCHTHEORY

Half Inch Wrench Crew coverage of Campout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxBAm0ZBBVc&t=2426s

Fortean TN channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@ForteanTN

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Hey, before we get going, there's

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even some blooper videos or extra clips at the end.

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All right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode

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of the show. I've got the privilege of talking to

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Michael today. A little background about Michael. We were both

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attendees at Randy's Cryptid camp out in Tennessee. That just was.

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Let's see, so we are recording this the twenty seventh

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of April. That camp out was the thirteenth through the

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seventeenth of April, so still still pretty recent in my mind.

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There was a lot of really interesting things that happened.

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But I had reached out to the group to see

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if anyone would be willing to come on the show

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to share what their experiences were, because man, there were

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a lot of experiences that happened in this area in Tennessee,

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and so thankfully Michael reached out and is willing to

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talk about some experiences that we're had. So welcome to

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the show, Michael. How are you doing.

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Thank you, Jim. I'm doing great, beautiful day here in

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East Tennessee.

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Absolutely, we man, we had plans that we were we

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were going to do an interview on site, and it

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got it was so hot. I remember both of us

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came to the realization that it is it's hot. It's

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I would say, almost a hunt. I mean it was

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really really hot. And I was at the point, you

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know in Iowa where I came from. I mean, it

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was down the forties and I just was. It was

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a great time, but I was not prepared to deal

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with that weather. So we both were like, hey, let's

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set up a phone call and thankfully here we are

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right now. But you know, Michael, what were your thoughts

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about about this this adventure that was called Randy's Cryptic

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camp Out that was put on by fourteen Tennessee.

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Well, I say, we live here probably a few hours

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east of where Randy is in the Cumberlands, and we

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have a lot of activity around the house, which is

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a story for another day. But we found out everybody

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that was going to tend you are going to be

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there half inch wrench crew. So it's like when we

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saw there were openings later on, we had to come up.

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Oh yeah. And I mean, this is the first time

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I've publicly talked about it, so I'll probably be doing

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commentary along with you. I mean, it was the coolest

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experience because, as you said, half inch wrench crew sasquatch theory.

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I guess myself was there, and then Jesse and Joe

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from Helbent Holler. There are a lot a lot of

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really cool people. So I was when Randy invited me

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to be a guest, who I was like Oh yeah, absolutely.

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I've always wanted to meet these guys and hang out

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with them for an extended period of time. So it

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was a very cool experience, kind of in like an

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old summer camp type setting. So that was fun and

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nostalgic as well. I guess you could say.

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Yes, yeah, and we watched we watch a whole bunch

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of you all the whole time. We watch you every

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every episode comes out, and it was like, this is

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going to be our one chance to get everybody together.

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Maybe exactly, I I don't think, I mean, unless Randy

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does it again. It was a it was a it

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was pretty much a once in a lifetime type deal

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to be able to spend that much time in the

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field with and not just content creators but like really

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good research researchers and enthusiasts and even skeptics from across

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the nation. But they all got together and no one

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was no one was going after each other, and we're

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all working together, and it was it was a very

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unique experience.

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I think, yes, we learned a lot.

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Absolutely so, So Michael, what were some things that you

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guys experienced in this? Uh, in this it was kind

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of a research experiment, really.

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Okay, The first night was just kind of a shakedown.

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I ended up joining the short height group. It was

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a small group. We just walked out I believe it's

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the amphitheater area, had a bunch of seats around the campfire.

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We walked a little waste past that didn't hear much.

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But one member of our group decided to stay back

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with a staff member and we were just gonna sit

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or lay down on the benches and listen. We heard

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five moving knocks. Now now I didn't consider them full

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tree knocks because they didn't have the pop, but as

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everybody else was walking back to camp, we heard them,

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heard them moving one, two, and they were separate. So

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the staff member called it in. It sounded like it

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could have been somebody maybe just hitting a tree with

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a piece of woo, you know, walking staff But Randy said,

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we called in Randy and he came in with Manny

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and he said if their group ever did that, they

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would ever knock in groups. He said they would do

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two or three knocks at a time, and we never

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did find anybody who said they had knocked that night

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walking back to camp.

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Okay, that's really interesting. I remember people talking about how

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there's a lot of interesting things that happened over there.

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I went over there beginning of the week and just

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kind of hung out on the benches and I was

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hearing some weird stuff out in the woods. I was

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hearing something that sounded like it was kicking stuff around,

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maybe knocking on trees. I'm not sure it was enough

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that I was hanging out there for a few minutes.

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It's just a beautiful area too.

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Out there in the woods. Yes. And the most interesting

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thing is later in the week, many had mentioned that

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a lot of times they'll notice the knocks are the

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number of people in the group, and it had many

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and Randy hadn't come out till they were called. But

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there were five knocks, and if you add up the

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three staff in two campers, that's five. For what that's

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worthing that.

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Is fascinating, Michael, I've never heard that before. That's really cool.

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Yeah, And that was confirmed days later, so I you know,

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I hadn't even put it together to yeah, I counted

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five knocks, five.

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People, Okay, I think it might be. I'm gonna give

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a little background real quick, just so people realize that

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if you remember my interview with Randy a while back.

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This is the same area where they've pretty much, you know,

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they've had multiple sightings out in the woods. There's an

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individual that had a very intense spider crawling incident sighting

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out there. Hopefully I might be able to get him

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on the show, but he's got all the time he needs.

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So it's not just that people are experiencing weird things

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in this area, but they're seeing visuals out in the woods.

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The cabin I was staying in is one on the

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edge of the campground. People have gotten run out of

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that cabin. There's been multiple rocks thrown at the cabin.

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There's been huge wood knocks at the tree line right

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next to the cabin. I might talk about my time

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in the cabin in a later on, but so that

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that was the first That was your first day, Michael,

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that you had that happen.

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Yes, that was the first night, and then the second

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night we went out as a group. Joe and Jesse

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from Helbert Holler put us out at intervals along the

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main trail. We were the second group in the first

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group was about a quarter mile in. We were maybe

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three eighth of a mile beyond that. We basically got

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out about ten thirty. It was pretty quiet until they

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called in the last group, and at eleven thirty three

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pm a lot of people noted this. There was I

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thought I heard a rifle shot towards camp. There was

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enough time for me to look and think, who's shooting

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a rifle? And then we heard this huge tree crash

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down within a few hundred yards of the first position.

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The last group, mile and a half up the trail

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heard it.

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As well, and I want to jump in real quick, Michael.

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I was in that last group, and that is no

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exaggeration because what it sounded like to us out there

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is that it was so loud that it sounded like

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it was close to us, and it was, as you said,

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more than a mile away. It was very intense.

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Yes, and I've had tree pushes. I was out hiking

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the trail once again. It's another story, but I heard

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the crack and tree fall, and it was in no

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comparison to how loud this one was. Even if you

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believe that trees, you know, fall in the calm, this

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was loud.

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It's important to know there was no wind that night either.

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Yeah, so it was very calm, no rain, And I

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also had a hiking friend who After I described it,

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they told me their tree fall stories, and his story

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was it was out camping near a shelter and he hurd.

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And well it was very clearly a tree falling slowly,

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which I can understand would be a natural tree fall,

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but not one that falls with the rifle shot.

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to say there were other things that groups experienced as

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well besides that.

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Yes, our position was quiet. After that. We looked up

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and down the trail and I can't say anything else

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that stood out after that other than the thermal that

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was caught.

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Right. Yeah, So I was in the group where the

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thermal was caught, and I'll talk about that for a

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few minutes. The two gentlemen that and they requested not

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to have their names mentioned, but very interesting situation. One

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middle aged gentleman, one a little bit younger gentleman, and

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so they were in. The individual that actually hit the

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record button on this was actually I would say, I

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think he considered himself to be a skeptic as well.

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They so they want their names not to be mentioned

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with this, but they do want it to be called

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the cross footage. And so they were able to provide.

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They provided me with some pictures and they're like, you

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can use this for whatever you want. So what happened

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was I was standing next to these two individuals and

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they were probably ten feet away from me. We're way

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way out there in this area that's called the cot

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zone where a lot of crazy stuff happens. And so

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the one individual has their thermal device on something in

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the woods, and the other individual has their iPhone or

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their phone hooked up to this thermal device so that

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they can just look at their screen and if they

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see something weird, they can record it. And thankfully they

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had the clarity of mind to record audio or to

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record a photos and video of this. And I'm not

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really sure what to think about it. It's right under

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an arch tree, and it looks like it doesn't look

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like a normal bigfoot, but I mean it looks like

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something where it's almost this big mass with dark features

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around where it could be a face. I don't know.

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I'll put it on the YouTube version. And then the

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weird thing is that they panned away and then panned

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back over and it was completely gone. Yeah, that's probably

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one of the weirdest. There are a lot of weird

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things that were experienced that week. That was one of

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the weirdest things I've experienced. I'm not sure what that was.

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I think some people were theorizing maybe it was a

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dog man instead of a bigfoot. I feel like that's

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even worse news, But I don't know what we What

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were your thoughts on you were able to see that

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that thermal capture, right?

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Yes? Yeah, my wife thought it looked a lot with

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the almost main looking that it would look like a

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potential dogman that she saw right off our porch. Boy,

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I thought it looked like a large chow dog. I

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saw a sharp snow and the eyes. So I have

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no idea what that could have been.

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But that's really interesting. That's an interesting theory because I

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remember the first time I looked at it, I was like,

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this looks like a little lion. I don't know it.

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The weird thing is is the next day we went

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out and the group of us went out and we

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were trying to find something that would make sense, you know,

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that would explain it away. We couldn't find anything. We

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did find a place where something had like obviously was

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sitting there. The leaves were all smushed down, but no,

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I don't know. I don't think there were any tracks

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that were found. Were you in that group, Michael that

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went out for.

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That, Yes, Jesse thought she found a potential track, okay,

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right by a little streamlet she was she was measuring it,

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But I don't know if they didn't, you know, it

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was really hard to tell. I got some pictures from

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her putting her hands there, but it's I don't think

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they could ever determine whether it was a track.

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Okay, interesting and and this is it's such it's such

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a wild experiment when you have multiple people experiencing multiple

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things in the same week, and you have multiple viewpoints.

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And then I think there's even video, like short video

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YouTube docs coming out already. I think Halfrench just Adam

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just brought his out. So there's there's so much that

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can be brought away from this week. What do you

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remember about that that day after?

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The last thing I remember about that night was when

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we gathered to look at the tree fall site is

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and the first group noticed the right away was a

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heavy ammonia urine smell. And we get that. We get

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that around the house. Sometimes we think it's skunks, but

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my wife calls it cat pe and that was a

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very distinct smell even the next day.

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Okay, that's a great, great thing for you to bring out, Michael,

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because were you around when we linked back up with

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Miguel from Sasquatch Theory and his guys and they were

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saying they were smelling the same thing in another part

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of camp that night.

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Yes, I remember that.

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Okay, And then this might be something you don't know.

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But my self and Manning had gone out on the

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trail the next day to check some stuff and we

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actually had two hikers come by us, and so we

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talked to them for a while, really nice people, and

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we were like, hey have but they were at this

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campsite way out they had been staying, and we were like, hey,

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have anything weird out there? And the guy was like,

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you know what really really weird smell out here? Like,

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and the way he explained it described it was very

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similar to how the other how the people in our

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group were actually describing as well. So I thought that

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was great info. He was not linked up to our

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expedition group, but he experienced the same thing as well.

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Yeah, so independent corroboration exactly exactly.

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I think that night where the different groups experienced stuff

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that we'd been talking about. It feels like there was

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a shift that started to happen, and after that, some

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really interesting things started to happen. Michael, what were some

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other things that you remember from your time there?

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Okay, the very next night we went out the same thing,

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but we went out in a triangle. The first group

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was at the it was a trail junction about halfway up.

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There was a group down that trail, and then there

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was a group that continued to the main the end

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of the first night's investigation, so we were basically in

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a triangle. At some point, I think it was actually

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quiet up till then Jesse came by and was looking

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for a volunteer to go a little further down the

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trail and occupy the middle of the triangle. So we

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were we would have been right in the center of

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the action, and we were nobody volunteered, so I was like, okay,

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I'll go. We almost immediately started hearing a lot of snaps,

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just a lot of noise around us. We clearly had

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it from two locations. It was the kind of thing

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where you'd hear it from one side and then right

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directly across you'd hear it on the other side. So

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there was they're either really fast or we had at

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least two whatever in the woods.

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Okay, so this is that this is the trail that's

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not on that main trail that we hiked tons and

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tons of times. This is like the offshoot trail.

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Right, Yeah, the offshoot trail in the MIDDLEK.

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I got it. I So I had something very strange

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happened that night because I ended up actually being out

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on the offshoot trail near the end of the night,

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and I was I was out there by my self,

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no thermal and there's a part, there's a part where

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it feels like it kind of starts to uh, to

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curve around a little bit. So I'm like almost on

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that curve. So I'm out there no one else. It

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sounded like there was a voice in my ear. That

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was it. It was like it was like come here.

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And at that point I was like, oh man, I'm

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I'm out of here. If I'm starting to hear a

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voice in the woods, like I am getting back with

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the rest of the group, like this is this is intense.

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Like it literally sounded like someone was in the woods

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behind me. And so that that was the first really

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weird thing that I experienced during that week, not the last,

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but I would say the first.

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Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, we didn't we didn't hear

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any of that. But then they then they played the

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recording from camp of the Shafar, the rams horn, the

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battle battle sounding, and we heard we heard the vocalizations.

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We heard almost like an abbreviated wolf howl, but more

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more of a vocal. Then it was odd. There was

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I heard, this is this is what I heard. I

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heard a k like a coyote, one single coyote call

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a yip and a howl, and then there was grunts

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like and it was all together. And that was from

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the upper upper end of the trail. So I don't

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know what anybody else experienced or that middle, that middle

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section maybe with the woods where nobody was.

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Yeah, that that's extremely interesting, Okay, I think that would be.

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Do you remember if were there any other things that

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happened that night. I think those are the main things

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that happened that night.

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Yeah. Then they played the Shaffar again, the recording and

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we heard the two screams two two very ulilated script

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loud screams, not like a fox or a bobcat. I've

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heard heard all those.

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Okay, I think the show show far stuff was before

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I heard that voice in the woods as well.

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Yeah, that was that was pretty early.

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Yep, which makes it kind of weird.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then we had at one time we

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had Joe going through that section between where we heard

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the calls because they were hearing a lot of action there. Uh.

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And then Joe and then Joe brought everybody back from

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the far section because they weren't having much activity at

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that end other than the vocalizations, so they went further

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down the side trail.

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And that's what that's when I yep, exactly, that's when

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I had my my deal happened perfect, Yeah, okay.

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And then then I had a fun one. I swear

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I had it upright thermal. This was this was the

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funny part. I'm still laughing about this. I saw someone

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standing by a tree trunk and I got a good,

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good thermal on it down the trail and we hadn't

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heard anybody. I didn't see any clothing because they were

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blended into the tree trunk, and I had I had

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my partner look and we're checking it out, and I

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announced it said, I see the head and all I

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saw was the head move, you know how you know

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sometimes on on thermals you'll see just a head mob

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forward a little bit and looked around the tree. Well,

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I swear I saw that, called it out. Jesse came

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running up, put her thermo and goes, uh, I think

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we have people, oh, Kiley, Apparently we had two stealthy

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members that were either there the whole time that we

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hadn't seen them, or they had come toward us on

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the trail and we had not heard of work. We're

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probably looking the other way.

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Oh that's funny, Okay, yeah, and that stuff happens, you know.

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Yeah. So but it was a good it was a

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good learning.

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Moment, absolutely. And I think that's actually a really good point, Michael,

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because I would say, man, the learning. First off, Jesse

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and Joe are really good at what they do. And

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I want to say that I have never been in

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a situation where I've learned so much from people like

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themselves about how to take things seriously when you're out

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in the woods, how to act a certain ways so

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you make sure that you capture the evidence with the

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devices you're using to capture the evidence. Like is very

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very cool to see them in the field and not

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just you know, watch them on YouTube, and what you

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see on YouTube is what they are in real life.

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It's very cool. They are one hundred percent legitimate.

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Yes, absolutely, especially about the evidence collection. I've learned. Yeah,

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I get I can get a little excited, which I

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didn't think I would.

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Yeah, same here, so.

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Yes, I definitely learned just keep it, keep it cool.

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You can get excited later.

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Yeah, exactly during during the debrief session. So that puts

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us Let's see, so that was Monday, Tuesday, WEDNESDA. Now

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we're on the next day, would be Wednesday, right.

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Oh, yeah, I still have a couple of things. Uh,

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we really thermal heart. I've been going over my thermals.

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I haven't found anything. But just as as we were

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wrapping up, as Jesse and Joe came through, Uh, we

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were talking about wrapping up. I don't remember what it

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was before Jesse smelled copper heads or I think it

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was after because I think she should wrap up. We

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heard a double cluck. He was like and and just

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a short distance way from that, there was an answering,

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almost inaudible, but it was clearly there. It was. It

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was like a signal, Okay, they're going home. We can

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we can leave. It was definitely the second one was

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definitely a reply. Okay, I think other than the tree,

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that was the most most interesting thing I heard.

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So I was also there, and man, that was the

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first time I've ever experienced that that type of vocalization,

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and it was loud, and it was much louder than

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I would have expected it to be. Do you know

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if anyone got that recorded, Michael.

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I doubted. We were packing up at the.

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Time, which makes sense that it would happen during that time.

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As you said, hey, they're on their way. So that's

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the other weird thing, Michael about this area. So I

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was in, this happens and there were days when myself

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or Miguel or any of those guys, when we would

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walk from the main part of the camp into that

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cabin section area, you would always hear one single knock

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in the woods over to the side. It was. It

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would happen time after time after time, almost like it

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was kind of notification thing. It's very very weird.

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Yeah, yeah, actually, and the fact that the two clocks

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were separate and and it was just like we weren't

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meant to hear it. So yeah, nobody had it recorded,

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but it was just so strange. Oh and the strangest

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thing happened when I got back to camp.

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Oh man, what happened?

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Oh? Okay. We had our two little dogs in the

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cabin and we found that sometimes if we didn't shut

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the latch lift it up, it didn't lock. So as

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a second method, we had a short rubber strap with

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s hoox on the end, not as stretched as the

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budget cord. It was really hard to stretch. That we

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put on the door handle and we hooked it to

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the the cabin number sign. There was two nails on

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the sign, but it was really hard to stretch it

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to the nail. That's the setup. I got back after

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the investigation and we went to the tavern and had

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the debrief and my wife asked me. She says, did

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you lock the door? And I was like no, I

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was literally outside of camp. I called her to come

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down and join Adam because she was going she has

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trouble walking with her knee in your knee, so she

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stayed in camp with Adam, and I said, well, Adam

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is ready for you to come walk down and join them.

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So I was out of camp by the time I called,

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so I'm like, no, I did not lock the door,

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and she said, I got back to the cabin and

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it was stretched to the nail that she could barely do.

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We did not hook it like that, and she does

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definitely not remember. She could barely get it unhooked and

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it would have taken all her strength and effort to

474
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.160
reach that nail, and she does not remember doing that.

475
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.559
And oh the other thing is while we were out,

476
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:35.599
the dogs were raising a ruckus. And when our mail

477
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:40.240
dog is annoyed, here we think from whatever is watching him.

478
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.799
He has a distinct wine. He kind of barks but

479
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.880
trying not to be loud. He did that at the

480
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.880
very end. And then she came back and found the

481
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:55.440
cabin bolted, and we were right in the middle. So

482
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.720
we're like, did someone come look at the dogs? And

483
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.559
you know, just speculating, but you know what could have

484
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.039
just what could have been watching us to know that

485
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:09.200
we're hooking the cabin up like that, and said, oh,

486
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.960
these dogs are annoying, I'm going to make sure they

487
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:12.519
don't get out.

488
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:18.599
Yeah, that's that's really concerning. And I will say, you know,

489
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.359
I walked so I would walk past where you guys

490
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.680
were to get to the bathhouse most days, and you

491
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.839
would hear you would hear the dog, one of the

492
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.559
dogs very faintly bark when you would, but it wasn't

493
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.920
like they would freak out. So that tells me in

494
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.319
order for them to be freaking out, this was like

495
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.880
something big was potentially happening, not not just a normal

496
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:44.960
person walking by, I don't know.

497
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.200
Right right, and and the bulk of everybody was out

498
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.680
investigating and go, yeah, you know, uh, I think there

499
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:55.680
was a coup. People might have been around the tavern

500
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.960
and maybe at the fire pit, but not definitely not

501
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:02.799
walking by. And like say, most of the time, they

502
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.319
were pretty quiet. When someone walked by, it.

503
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:12.400
Was very very It's a weird area. It's a beautiful area,

504
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:17.519
but man, it's weird. There's one thing I want to

505
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.400
before we go any further. I want I want to

506
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.160
I want to tell the whole story. But there there

507
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.759
was a individual in his son that they were going

508
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.160
towards that trail on the first day down by the

509
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:35.400
water and there was like an old abandoned building down there,

510
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.839
and they actually they said they saw something that looked

511
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:44.720
like it was tall, white haired walking around that area.

512
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.720
So I don't know, I think there there absolutely could

513
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.319
have been a sighting there right off the bat. That

514
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.599
would have been day one. So there's there's that that

515
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:58.319
happened in the same week as well. But so that

516
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.640
was that was uh, oh, Tuesday night, Michael, where your

517
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:02.720
dogs had that issue.

518
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.599
Yes, that was that was Tuesday night. That was second

519
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.720
night and the other. Oh, one other thing I do

520
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:15.480
remember is as we were walking out, the whipperwills started, yeah,

521
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.480
in a in a in a chorus everywhere, And as

522
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.599
we're walking I hear a single cricket on the side

523
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:28.319
of the trail, and I remember thinking, I know we

524
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.960
were busy listening and watching, but I don't remember the

525
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.519
Whipperwills nor any crickets. I swear the woods were silent

526
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:36.799
as we were investigating.

527
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.680
Yeah, absolutely, it's.

528
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.880
And the Whipperwills only started up after we heard those clucks.

529
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.480
And then I go, oh, there's the whipperwills. I need

530
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.279
to I need to go back over my thermals and

531
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.200
see if I can hear the whip whipperwills earlier, because

532
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:54.680
I had audio on it as well.

533
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.519
Oh, that would be really cool to get that that

534
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:02.400
piece of info for sure. So then let's see I'm

535
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:07.119
trying to think of Wednesday. So Wednesdays is the last

536
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:14.759
full day before No, no, sorry, Thursday night would have

537
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.440
been Thursday. So we're on Thursday now, correct, perfect, So

538
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.359
Thursday is the last main day before Friday. People were

539
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.200
heading out in the early mornings. So yes, there are

540
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.680
a lot of really interesting things that happen on Thursday,

541
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.119
but I want to make sure we address them in order.

542
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.920
Was there anything out of the ordinary that happened Thursday

543
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:37.640
morning for you?

544
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:43.960
No, not that I can remember.

545
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.839
Okay, yeah, now there is something I want to share

546
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:55.200
about Thursday afternoon for myself. So and so background for

547
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:59.039
me again, as I said, really not used to the heat.

548
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.200
The heat is getting to me. I'm drinking probably I

549
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:07.000
mean a ton of water. I'm drinking a ton of water.

550
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.280
I would say at least ninety six ounces, maybe even

551
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.880
more than that. And I was having to take naps

552
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.320
because not only were we hiking eight to ten miles

553
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.519
a day ish, we were also up some nights until

554
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.960
one point thirty two am, which was really not used to.

555
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.480
So I was taking a nap. It was around two

556
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.360
pm in my cabin, which nothing had really happened weird

557
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.519
in the cabin yet. But I'm on my bunk trying

558
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:41.079
to get some rest, and in that weird sleep zone

559
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.760
where you're almost asleep and you're just drifting off a

560
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:48.079
little bit and you're almost there, right, I heard something

561
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.679
in my left ear say gotcha, and I was like, nope,

562
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.280
we're out of here. We are out of here. So

563
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.360
I immediately got up and I was like, I don't

564
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.320
know what happened, but I'm not sticking around. And then

565
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.800
I went up to see what the rest of the

566
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.599
group was doing, so that I did have something weird

567
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.280
happen in that cabin. They said, you're going to have

568
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.800
something weird happen in this cabin, and that's the weird

569
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:11.360
event for me.

570
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.519
Yes, we were the same way. By that last day

571
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.880
we were I was so tired and worn out that

572
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.480
we didn't do much but hang out in the cabin. Uh.

573
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.079
My wife did have an odd thing. She went into

574
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:32.920
one the corner between our bunks. It was it was Thursday,

575
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:41.960
and she felt almost almost zapped. She felt very very

576
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.440
dizzy and out of sorts, walked away from it was clear,

577
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.119
walked back into it and right between right in that

578
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.000
one corner, felt like she was going to almost pass out.

579
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.119
And that was yeah. And that was Thursday morning, three times.

580
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:06.000
Okay, yeah, oh so I'm glad. I'm glad, glad she

581
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.599
was okay that that could have I mean, because there

582
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.280
was no hospital or anything like that close by. That's

583
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:19.559
another important detail, right, Thankfully she was good. Yes, I'll

584
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:23.800
say Thursday was kind of it was leading up to Hey,

585
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.519
this is going to be the last night for us

586
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:29.360
to do investigation. We're going to pull out all the stops.

587
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.039
You can do whatever you want. So people were trying

588
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:35.880
some weird things.

589
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.440
Yes, and that and that night, I I just stayed

590
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.920
with Adam. Uh, like I say, I was. I really

591
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.800
didn't even feel like glowing out. I said, I had

592
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.960
two good nights. So so we just set up our

593
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:55.960
chairs by Adam's cabin there. Okay, yeah, we we we

594
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:01.320
We definitely had had some noises us out in the

595
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:02.920
usual spots outside of camp.

596
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.559
Oh so when you were with Adam you actually heard

597
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.639
some stuff, you're saying, yeah, yes, oh really.

598
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.679
Yeah, I heard. Uh there was a trail heading out

599
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.840
of camp. I'm not sure where I went. There was

600
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.679
a little bench and I heard her noises there. I

601
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.719
put my THRMB on and I checked thoroughly around our cabin.

602
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.480
I was I was hoping for a repeat of the Dogs.

603
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:29.039
Gotcha, but no such luck. I was in the group

604
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:33.039
that actually went out, and we only went I would

605
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.599
say about a mile out instead a mile and a half.

606
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.960
And people are trying things like of course there was

607
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:40.239
a show far again.

608
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:42.239
There.

609
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.880
I did a call. I do a call where it's it.

610
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.880
I kind of rip off Bobo with his long call.

611
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.559
And I didn't hear anything when I did it, but

612
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:55.679
I did have someone in camp I believe tell me

613
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.519
that he had heard a response to that when I

614
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:00.960
did that. That was kind of cool. I think there

615
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.199
might be some audio floating around to that somewhere. Maybe

616
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:12.559
we'll get that someday. But then some really interesting things

617
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:16.280
happened later on in that night, and Michael, it might

618
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.280
be interesting to hear what happened with that situation, with

619
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.440
that weather situation leading up to I will say when

620
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.039
we started coming back to camp, so you can tell

621
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:30.960
your side of that, and then I will tell my

622
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:32.960
side of it. Actually being out in the woods.

623
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:38.360
Okay, yes, yes, my wife was actually ready to she

624
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.480
was getting chilly outside, so I was returning her chair

625
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.360
to the cabinet, getting her back and ready to settle down,

626
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.280
and we were actually inside when we heard the wind

627
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:55.639
first hit was it was unbelievable. So I went back,

628
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.280
went back out, and by then the wind was blowing

629
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:05.880
pretty good good, and I wasn't too concerned til Adam

630
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:12.679
started talking about coagulance and first aid supplies. He asked

631
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.320
me if my first aid training EMT training. I said, well,

632
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:21.000
since boy scouts, but I know a little bit. So

633
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.880
I went back and put my chair up and got

634
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.800
geared up in case we did have to go out.

635
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.519
It was. It was very intense, even at camp.

636
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.559
That's incredible. I did not know that detailed. That is

637
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:38.360
absolutely wild. I will say that some listeners will think

638
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.760
that Michael's being dramatic, and I will say he's not.

639
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.920
And so I'm gonna say what happened from my viewpoint.

640
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.760
So I had seen the weather earlier that day, and

641
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.440
it had first said rains coming down, a thunderstorm, and

642
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:01.920
so we are out about a mile and then so

643
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.079
I'm keeping an eye on it. I did have cellular

644
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:09.119
service out there, which is crazy. Some people in the

645
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.159
group had thought, well, maybe it's going to maybe it's

646
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.519
not an issue. Anymore. But I remember looking at the

647
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:21.119
radar and seeing this red line fully across Tennessee north

648
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:25.599
to south. And so the thing most listeners will know,

649
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.760
I'm from Iowa, and we take weather very seriously out here.

650
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:32.519
So when I started to hear the sound of a

651
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.559
train coming at us in the woods, I started to

652
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:41.400
freak out, and a lot I would say most of

653
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.559
probably all the people that were in the woods with

654
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.440
me a mile out from camp had no idea it was,

655
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:50.360
you know, they were just kind of frozen a little bit.

656
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.320
And I remember I started yelling. I was yelling. I

657
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:54.679
was like, we need to get out of here now,

658
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:56.320
we need to go. We need to go, we need

659
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.960
to go. And I remember yelling at not just yelling me.

660
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.559
My voice be heard, not yelling at people, but I

661
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.639
remember being Jesse, it's time to go. We have to go.

662
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.920
And because I mean, when you hear that train, that's

663
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:10.800
like that can be a matter of life and death,

664
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.679
because it's like tornado. So pretty much what happens, I

665
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.079
believe that there were sixty to seventy miles per winds

666
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.840
coming towards us. Jesse springs into action. She's like, it's

667
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.199
time to go. It's time to go over the walkie.

668
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.639
Everyone starts running back on this trail back to camp. Now,

669
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.440
this area that we're running through has all these massive

670
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.320
oaks that are leaning on their side because of previous weather.

671
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.000
And these are like, I would say, a thousand pound trees.

672
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.199
So what happened As we're starting to run back to camp,

673
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.800
all these massive trees start coming down in the woods

674
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.480
and I'm like, oh my goodness, We're like we're going

675
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.039
to die out here, Like this is crazy. And so

676
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.000
there was even one individual where he told me he

677
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.840
was like it was so bad that I remember running

678
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.599
past a huge tree that came down and I literally

679
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.719
had to dodge the tree as I'm running pass it. So,

680
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.239
I mean, I think if we hadn't of left when

681
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.079
we did. And you know, thankfully everyone got back to

682
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:12.119
the main lodge, and it was it was probably one

683
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.920
of the most traumatic experiences I've ever been in. It

684
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.519
was amazing no one got hurt, but great to know

685
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:23.280
that you guys were prepared to help people in the

686
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:24.000
way that you were.

687
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.000
Thank you, yes, thank god, because yeah, when I when

688
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:29.599
I picked up my chair and went back check on

689
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.519
my wife, and Adam said, I'll see you back in there.

690
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.440
I'm like, no, I'm gearing up. If we got to go,

691
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.760
we'll go absolutely, And thank god we didn't have to,

692
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.079
because yeah, it was by the time I got back,

693
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:42.679
everybody was pretty much back.

694
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:47.880
In scary stuff. So we had one crazy last debrief.

695
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.760
It was. It was quite the finale. Now. There was

696
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.800
a group that were like, all right, we're going back

697
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.239
out after the storm, and I was like, I'm not

698
00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:00.360
going back out because there's not only that, in my opinion,

699
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.440
not only the trees that came down, but there's also

700
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:06.079
more trees that are ready to come down. So then

701
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.360
that's fine, there's no wrong answers there. So a group

702
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.599
went back out. I believe they had some weird stuff

703
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.440
happen out there. I think they they saw kind of

704
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.000
orbs that were coming towards them in the woods, right.

705
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.960
Yes, And on the other side from y'all back towards

706
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.039
the U in the a group Catman had heard something

707
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:32.800
in the woods. We and and I had him put

708
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.679
the drone up. We heard the drone fly over twice

709
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:36.840
and I was almost tempted to get up, but we

710
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.519
were we were. I was wiped out by.

711
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.719
That point, so I Michael, I can give you the

712
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.679
rest of the story for that, because I actually ended

713
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.719
up being in that group over there because I was like, man,

714
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.679
what's going on over at a section Randy and I

715
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:56.199
checked it out. Catman whose individual that helps out with

716
00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:00.000
fourteen Tennessee. Cool guy. He had heard something from his

717
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.480
bunk in the woods. So I go over. When I

718
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.880
get over there, Adam has his drone up and it's

719
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.960
really tense. Everyone's looking into the woods trying to see stuff.

720
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:17.199
Adam has his thermal drown up and he's like, there's

721
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:18.119
something out there.

722
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:18.559
No.

723
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.000
What he asked is he like, is there are there

724
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.960
any people in the woods right now? And I was like,

725
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.440
oh my goodness, it's happening right now. And so he's like,

726
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:29.159
I have view on something in the woods that looks

727
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.599
like it's on two legs something like that. And I

728
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:35.639
was like, no way. But thankfully Adam took the time

729
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:40.159
to look at it in multiple angles and it ended

730
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.440
up actually being a deer in the woods. But we

731
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.280
were so close to like, Okay, there's something in the woods.

732
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.760
Now you guys go after it. And I was like,

733
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.360
oh my goodness, what are we gonna do. It's either

734
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.960
a bigfoot or there's someone crazy out there. Right, That's

735
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.719
what happened there. But were there any other interesting things

736
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:03.639
that you guys remember experiencing down during the Randy's Critic

737
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:04.119
camp out.

738
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.920
Uh, that that was about the bulk of it. On

739
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.840
our day hike, there was a couple of possible structures

740
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.719
I saw. I saw an arch heading towards the trail

741
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:22.280
that was looked like it was pinned down, but it's

742
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:22.800
hard to.

743
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.280
Say it was. It was in my opinion, it was

744
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.199
a really well done event. You know, the people that

745
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.800
were there had been I think researching that area for

746
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.840
what twenty years, right.

747
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:38.400
Something like that.

748
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.079
It's a long time seen years, yes, And then you

749
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:48.760
know they had a yeah, breakfasts and lunch and dinner

750
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:51.119
and all that good stuff, And it was just there

751
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.719
were times when you know, Jesse and Joe taught people

752
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.239
about infrasound that was really cool. So they were they

753
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:02.039
were learning times too, and there's time to hang out

754
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:06.440
and relax and go on walks with people you would

755
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.280
normally not be able to spend an extended period of time.

756
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.400
And like I got a really good time actually out

757
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:18.639
in the woods with with Miguel from the sasquatch theory.

758
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:24.480
And then another gentleman from Oklahoma. I'm pretty sure he

759
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.360
doesn't want his name thrown out there, so I'm not

760
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.599
going to. But that was really cool. We were out

761
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.679
on that side trail and this is one afternoon and

762
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:37.000
they actually heard some strange WU noises out there, which

763
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.360
I talked to Randy and his crew about that, and

764
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.119
they're like, yeah, that area we're out there, we always

765
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.559
hear WO noises as well. But yeah, it was just

766
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.239
it was a really cool time to hang out, learn

767
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.800
more about researching, and meet some really cool people.

768
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.960
Yes, and considering that all the guest speakers had to cancel,

769
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:03.679
Joe and Jesse and Randy really stepped up, and.

770
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:04.400
That's a great point.

771
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:09.239
Actually made it about pure investigating, which was probably even better.

772
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.119
I would say, yeah, as you said, you know, and

773
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:18.000
that's how life is. There's sometimes family stuff that comes up,

774
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:21.320
or like car issues, and I would say, you know,

775
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.320
if there was a medal of honor like Jesse and Joe,

776
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:31.400
those guys they went above and beyond having to at

777
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.079
the last minute, Okay, now we're in charge of all this.

778
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.320
Now we're in charge of this. And Randy, you know,

779
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.119
stepped it up as he's such a good event planner

780
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.599
and his team, and yeah, it ended up becoming an

781
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.519
even more amazing week. It could have gone downhill, but

782
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.519
it really didn't. I think it just went higher.

783
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:56.000
Yes, because in the original description it just said night

784
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.239
hike with Joe and Jesse. It didn't even use the

785
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:02.760
word investigation. They they thought they were going to have to,

786
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.760
you know, show everybody how to use and they were like,

787
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.360
they were really complimentary too, And I thought so too.

788
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.559
I thought that we were, like, you say, a good,

789
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:12.119
well knit, put together group.

790
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:18.320
Oh yeah, oh yeah, is this a thing? I hope

791
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.960
Randy does this again. I think it went really well.

792
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.199
I think there would definitely be people that would want

793
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.239
to do it again. Do you think this might be

794
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.400
a one time event for you or is this something

795
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.559
you would consider looking into again in the future.

796
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:39.920
Oh, we're ready, You're We're ready to go.

797
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:44.440
I would say there's some really cool relationships and connections

798
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.039
that started because of this. There were people that were

799
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:49.840
talking at the end that were like, hey, we we

800
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.559
got to get a group of people together and hit

801
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:56.760
this certain area hard. And because it's hard to get

802
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:00.840
a group of people researchers together that are willing to

803
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.960
work together and not have it be all about egos.

804
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.840
And Randy did a really good job of allowing the

805
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.960
right people to come and vetting the people that were

806
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.239
allowed to come, and so we had no concerns about

807
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.599
people going crazy and making it all about them. It

808
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.840
was awesome, yes.

809
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.320
But we would we would definitely do East Tennessee or

810
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.000
Central Tennessee again as well. And yes, we would definitely.

811
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.880
Do this again absolutely. I would say it was it

812
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.719
was fun for me as well. I would I would

813
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:38.840
definitely consider it as as well. It was a fantastic time, Michael,

814
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:43.239
what a what a great conversation talking about just the

815
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:46.639
events of the week. Thank you for for reaching out

816
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.719
and for setting something up so that we could we

817
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.480
could get on here and just kind of talk about

818
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:53.639
how how the week went.

819
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.800
Oh. Absolutely, it's been my pleasure. It was very nice

820
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.960
meeting you as well. And the it was like, say,

821
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:03.280
we will have to do it.

822
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:07.800
Again, absolutely and maybe, you know, maybe someday in the future,

823
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.679
if you guys ever want to come back on, I'd

824
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.719
love to have you. I know you've got stuff going

825
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:16.159
on down down there in East Tennessee and maybe we

826
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.000
could have a conversation about that someday.

827
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:18.760
Sounds good.

828
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.920
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

829
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.199
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

830
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.079
would love to get out in those woods and experience

831
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:32.639
it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.

832
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:36.239
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

833
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:41.199
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

834
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:45.239
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

835
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.159
better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be

836
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.280
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

837
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:57.559
I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard

838
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:03.760
anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you

839
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:06.000
just got to be there. We'll leave at that. More

840
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:08.760
about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check

841
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.400
this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

842
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:18.760
series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not

843
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:23.000
only go to the festival, but you can also sign

844
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:29.960
up for a track deep in the wild forest outside

845
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.679
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the bigfoot spots to

846
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.360
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

847
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.440
for this and yes, this will also be filmed for

848
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.639
the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching

849
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.199
for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

850
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.440
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

851
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.599
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

852
00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.199
dot com and listeners can use the code be esp

853
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:06.000
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

854
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.840
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

855
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:14.079
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

856
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:20.559
that you guys can can get a little help with

857
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.920
the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

858
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.159
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

859
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.480
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

860
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.159
many people last year and the year before. It is

861
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.119
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

862
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.880
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

863
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.519
I want to say something directly to a very specific

864
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:48.039
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

865
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:51.000
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

866
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:54.320
can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or

867
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.960
forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet. If you're

868
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.400
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

869
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.559
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

870
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.159
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

871
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:11.239
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

872
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.880
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

873
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.000
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

874
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.880
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

875
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.559
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

876
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.239
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

877
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.800
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

878
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:36.559
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

879
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.840
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

880
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:42.320
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

881
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.880
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

882
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.679
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

883
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:56.559
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

884
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.760
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

885
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.000
what you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

886
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:10.000
You've got the story, We've got the mic see you

887
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.559
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

888
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.800
of the Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

889
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.360
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

890
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:21.320
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

891
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:24.599
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899
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.280
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907
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908
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909
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:20.440
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910
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:22.679
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