Aug. 18, 2026

Towering Bigfoot Watches Witness | Lake Alpine, California

Towering Bigfoot Watches Witness | Lake Alpine, California

Some encounters stay with you for life. Greg shares two firsthand experiences that changed everything he believed about the wilderness. The first takes place on Independence Day in the Sierra Nevada mountains of California, where a massive upright...

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Season 1

Some encounters stay with you for life.


Greg shares two firsthand experiences that changed everything he believed about the wilderness. The first takes place on Independence Day in the Sierra Nevada mountains of California, where a massive upright creature silently watches him from the trees near Lake Alpine. Years later, while fishing in Chaplin, Connecticut, an explosive crash from dense shoreline brush reveals another enormous, ape-like animal racing uphill in full view of multiple witnesses.


From California's high country to the forests of New England, this episode explores two unforgettable encounters, regional Bigfoot reports, Native traditions, unexplained footprints, and the questions that continue long after the sightings end.


If you enjoy serious, respectful eyewitness interviews with the people who lived these experiences, this is an episode you won't want to miss.


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You're listening to Big for the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you, I pick the Society.

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You've get the privilege of talking to Greg today. Greg

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has been a listener of the show. I think we

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got connected over there on one of those social media networks.

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But Greg was able to come on the show to

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share about some encounters he's had over the years. A

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little bit of information about Greg to set the stage.

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He is an outdoorsman, an electrician from out there in Connecticut.

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Likes to fish too, so he's one of those guys

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that is out there in the outdoors and things happen

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when when you're when you're doing that. So Greg, welcome

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to the show. How are you doing today, sir?

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I am doing well. Thank you for having me.

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Absolutely. I don't get a lot of a lot of

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interviews from Connecticut, you know, from Connecticut, but there is

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a great amount that happens in that state, so it's

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always good if something happens to get it documented. So

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I'm very excited to talk to you today. But Greg,

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is there anything Is there anything else that we would

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need to know about you before we get started with

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with what you've gone through over the years.

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No, No, I think that's you covered it. I mean

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it's basically, I'm just an everyday guy. I'm not you know, like,

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I don't get into this stuff normally. I don't research this.

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I've done some research after I had the first encounter,

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which I'll talk about, but other than that, that's that's me.

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I'm just a normal dude. I grew up in a

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big city, Fairfield County, outside of New York City, and

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this wasn't on my radar, you know. I I did

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everyday things you saw, you know, things in the zoo.

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You know, you knew what was out well, you thought

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you knew what was outside, and then you see these

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things and you don't know what to do or what

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to think, so you look them up and then you

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find out you know something. So basically that's it. I'm

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just a normal guy that had two encounters and I

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know what I saw. I mean, it was played this day, and.

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I think those are some of the most interesting accounts

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to hear, is when it's an individual. They're just out

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there doing their thing and then they run into something

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they weren't expecting to see.

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You.

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No, Greg, before we get into the first encounter that

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you had, what was your viewpoint of Bigfoot before then?

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Or was it even on your radar at all?

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No? Like I said, no, it was. I had watched

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like the paranormal shows that might have been on TV,

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like on you know, like cable TV in the early

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two thousands, maybe the odd UFO show like you know,

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in Search of or whatever. But you know, I saw

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Harry and the Hendersons are way back. I don't even

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remember if it was an eighties or nineties movie, but

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I didn't like it. I thought it was stupid. I

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thought it was ridiculous, not stupid, like it was like,

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what is this thing?

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You know, it's like whatever Bigfoot.

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Anything that I saw about Bigfoot happened to do with

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the what they call the Patterson Gimlin, the famous footage,

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because that was always on like late night TV. If

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you saw something about Bigfoot.

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It was that.

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That was it. Now that you know, you think about it,

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you're like that, yeah, that was it. So when this happened, no,

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like I said, I was, I was out in the

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woods just in trying to enjoy the day in a

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new part of the country that I had never been in,

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and this happened.

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So yeah, let's let's get right into it then. So

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you're first going to take us out to the west

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coast to an area that.

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Yeah, it was Calaveras County, more specifically Alpine County. I

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lived in Calaveras County in a town called Arnold, up

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on Route four in northern California and the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

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And I lived up there in a in a cabin.

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A friend of mine needed somebody staying there just to

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maintain the police basically in the winter time because it

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was in the middle of nowhere, and it's We went

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up to a park up in Alpine County which is

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up this route for about thirty forty minutes and it's

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a well, you know, well traveled park people visited all

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the time. In the Stanislaus National Forest. It borders the

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El Dorado and the Stanislas on Route four. That's the

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border of it. So I guess the south side is

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the Stanislas and the north side is El Dorado National Forest,

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and so a lot of people go up there. There's

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a lake up there, a lot of hiking, fishing, outdoors,

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you know, people swim. So I had moved up there.

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This is twenty ten. I had moved up there in January,

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and this is in July, July fourth, to be exact.

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It was the fourth of July. We went up three

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friends of mine. Decided we had nothing planned, so we're

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going to get some food. Bring it up there, bring

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up a little portable grill with some charcoal and cook

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some food up there. They have picnic tables and little

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eating areas along the lake. Lake Alpine. And mind you,

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in the wintertime, this area is closed from October to

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April because the amounts of snow that they get up

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in that eight in that area, and in fact, Alpine

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County doesn't even operate four wheel drive vehicles. They patrol

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their county by helicopter in the winter. It's so rugged

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up there because of the snowfalls, the amounts of it's crazy.

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They get like twenty five feet some our winter up there,

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So this is like no man's land. But in the summertime,

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people come up there, they visit the parks, they go

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further up the roads and Bear Valley, Yeah, it's Bear

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Valley Ski Resort is up there. So that's a well

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known ski resort in California, Northern California. In any case,

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this is lot right along that that area. We get

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up there July fourth, there's still snow in the parking

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lot that was plowed. That was, you know, sitting up

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on the lake on the sides of the parking lot

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where they had plowed it up from just a couple

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months ago. Go and it's July in California and there's snow,

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and I'm like, you know, this is crazy already. You know.

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We get out of the car and we were just

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unpacking the stuff and there was myself two other males

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and a female and we you know, we're all about

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the same age. We're all about thirty five years old

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at the time, so we're not kids. No drugs, no alcohol,

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no nothing. We just brought food up and funny enough,

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I'm gonna tell you about smoking up there. I'd smoke

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cigarettes at the time. And in the National Park in California,

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they have laws because of the wildfires. They don't even

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allow you to smoke. If you know, like park ranger

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sees you doing it, they're gonna give you a pretty

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hefty fine. If I heard it's like eight hundred dollars.

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So it was a no no anyway. So there's nothing

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going on with drugs or alcohol or any of that

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fun stuff. So you can light a grill in the

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in the picnic areas only. And went up there unpacking

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the food, get all the stuff unpacked. Everybody's sitting around

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the picnic table and looking at the lake and because

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there's snow on the ground still, the water's really cold still.

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It was like probably fifty degrees and nobody wanted to

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go swimming. We had plans. We brought like swim suits,

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thinking that it might be you know, cool to jump

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in but it was too cold, so we were all

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just kind of sitting around. And I had never been

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out and seen that scenery out there. I'm from the

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like I said, the East Coast near New York. From city. Boy,

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it's totally this is like a different place, like a

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different land than me. So I wanted to go take

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a hike. And I sit to that and I smoked,

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and I think I was the only one at the

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time who smoked cigarettes. And I wanted to go hide

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and smoke a cigarette. And uh so I'll take a hike,

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you know whatever. So I went up across the road

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into the northern part of the Route four, which is

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I guess El Dorado National Forest. This is Lake Alpine,

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so people can find exactly where I am. There's a

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hill or a mountain or a foothill. This is the

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Sierra Nevadas, so I don't know what you call it.

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We're probably at maybe eight thousand feet right now where

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we are, so we're pretty high up in elevation. But

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the local terrain in the Sierras kind of rolls, and

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it depends on where you are if it dips and

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it gets really steep, but for the most part, it's

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like granite fields mixed with like pines and other types

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of brush and whatnot. Manzanita. So I went up a

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hill and there was no hiking trail. I just shugged

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up this hill, you know whatever. Didn't know what I

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was doing, didn't know if that was even cool people

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doing that, but I did it. So I found this

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boulder up probably about five hundred yards from the parking lot,

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and I couldn't see the parking lot. It was totally overgrown.

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There's so many trees there, it's thick. And I found

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this boulder and it had an overlook if I looked

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to my left and to my right, and in front

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of me was up the hill because it went up

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hundreds and hundreds of feet I don't know how long,

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and it just kept going. I couldn't tell. And I

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wasn't gonna go that far up. So anyway, I was

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looking around. You know, the mountain in the woods are

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to my right and straight up from me, like twelve

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o'clock is you know, trees and the sky and this

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this incline and then the lake's over on the left

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and so kind of you know, just looking around, I'm like,

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all right, I'm gonna smoke my cigarette here. So pulled

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out packed cigarettes, lit one up, sitting there smoking it,

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and I was like, this is great. You know, I'm

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eating all the way out here from the East coast.

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I'm like, this looks awesome. You know, this is a beautiful.

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It's so beautiful out here. California is a beautiful state.

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I don't care where you are, Southern California, northern wherever.

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It's got such diverse landscape. It's beautiful. So in any case,

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I'm looking around, you know, I'm smoking a cigarette and

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blah blah blah. And I ended up finishing the cigarette

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and made sure I put it out. You know, everything

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was good, and I saved the butt. I put it

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in my pocket, you know, didn't want to litter it.

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Didn't want to be the one to do that. So anyway,

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I'm just sitting there after for like three or four minutes,

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and I'm looking around and I'm looking in the woods

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and just checking things out. And there's a squirrel that

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comes down. In the squirrel it's like a it's like

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a gray squirrel that you might see in anywhere, like

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in a park in your backyard. This thing is huge.

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It's like half the size of a domestic cat. I'm like,

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I've never seen a squirrel that big, and it's just

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walking up to me. He's just like, probably like ten

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feet away, and I'm like, what's it doing. I'm like,

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you know, and it's walking. It's not like hopping. It's

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like kind of just each leg is moving one at

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a time. M like, I never saw that before. I

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never saw the side of the squirrel that big. It

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was bigger than a rabbit that I normally saw, you know,

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back knees, coast whatever. And another one appears. I didn't

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see that coming, and they kind of joined up within

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a couple of feet, and this is twenty about twenty

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twenty five feet away from me, and they're looking right

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at me like they got eyes, I mean, making sure

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I'm not maybe coming at them or something whatever. I'm

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sitting on a boulder, so I'm probably not too you know,

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they're probably not. You don't worry about me. And they

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kind of skid her off. Right after I'm talking. Ten seconds,

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my gaze goes twenty five feet where the squirrels were

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twenty twenty five feet maybe a little bit up this incline,

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and then I'm not choking. This is like the weirdest thing.

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It's it's like a fairy tale. It's like Disney. I

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see what they call a black tail deer, a mule dear.

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It's a it's a pretty big size, like it looks

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like a white tailed deer, just black. Well they they

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look more like a small elk. And it was pretty big.

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It's like the squirrel. It's like, what is everything out here?

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Bigger too? It's like what is going on? And this

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thing is about forty forty yards away up the hill,

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but it's walking down and it's walking like the squirrel

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is well kind of like the squirrel. It's just it's

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not like running. It's not hopping. It's just walking every

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like you know, every hoof for whatever is touching the ground,

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and it's it's looking down and it's looking back at me,

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or at least in my direction. I don't know if

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it's looking at me. But and I'm still I'm like,

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what is going on here? As I'm looking at this thing,

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I don't know. I don't know like how you would say,

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like it wasn't it was in my peripheral vision. Maybe

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I see something about ten yards further, but a little

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bit to the left and it gets up and it's huge,

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I mean freaking huge, and it blocks out well. It

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was behind a tree, and you can see there was

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some the sun was shining from some direction up there.

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You could see the silhouette of its body, but fur

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sticking off like the skin, like maybe an inch or two,

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so you could see that definition of the body versus

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the fur in the in the the silhouette of the

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sunlight or whatever. And this thing gets up and I

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mean it was I didn't even care about the deer anymore.

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I don't even know. I think the deer ran off

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further to my left, will kind of or walk away.

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I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, there's a

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monster up there, and all of a sudden, I'm like,

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what am I gonna do? I'm like, I'm like, there's

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there's a lot of distance between me and that parking lot,

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and there's something, you know, not far away. It's like

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sixty seventy yards maybe it was up a hill, so

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it's hard to judge. And there's there's a lot of

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stuff up there, so it's not flat, and it's it's

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you know, it's it's hard to judge, but I'm just guessing.

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I used to shoot rifles and they were like twenty

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five fifty and one hundred yards, So that's basically when

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I'm judging my my gauge on In any case, I

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saw this thing. It gets up and it kind of

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it's behind the tree, like half behind the tree, like

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you only see half it, and it looks like a

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It has a huge head. It has a cone like

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kind of like a cone head, and you can see

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the arms come down to almost its knees or where

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like or where the bow and its legs were. I

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guess that would be the knee the bone in its

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leg that was sticking out, but the rest of it

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was kind of I don't know if it was angled

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or whatever. I think it might have been, because then

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it started to turn and move away from me and

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it started walking. And when I start, when I saw

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it move away, that was my cue to get out

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of there. Now this was twenty ten. I had like

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a flip phone. I had, like you know, I might

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have had a camera on that phone, but I didn't

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never use it for like anything decent, and so it

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wasn't like well like oh, I'll pull out your phone

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or something like that even this encounter, I'll tell you

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later I had a decent phone and I didn't do that.

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But in any case, this thing walked until I couldn't

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see it anymore, and I wasn't going to go follow

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up the hill to see where it went or to

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try to make contact with it. It was massive, I mean,

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like the biggest thing I've ever seen in my life

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on land. That's I don't know how big you could

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say it was. I mean at least eight foot, at

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least eight nine feet something like that, nine eight to

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ten foot, I would say, easy, easy. And when it

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walked away, it kept looking well, I don't know how

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it looked at me. Twice I saw it walk probably

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about twenty to thirty yards up this incline. And mind you,

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there were there were some rocks and things that were

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in the way, so at points I only saw half

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of it or you know whatever. But it did look

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back at me to see maybe if I was going

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to follow it, And like I said, I thought, I

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was like, this is my cue to turn it the

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opposite way. I'm like, I don't know what that was.

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But now when it looked back at me, I didn't

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see any type of facial feature. All I could tell

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because of the sun was that it had paused for

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a second and the whole body swayed like it wasn't

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just the neck or the shoulders in the neck, but

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the whole body rotated like at the waist maybe and

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looked at me like twice. That's what I saw going

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up there, and I'm like, what is that? You know?

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I had things running through my head like is that

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a person? I'm like, there's no, like I saw a hair.

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It wasn't like I saw a clothes like jeans and

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a T shirt or you know, something like that, or

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even no, you know, no, it wasn't anything like that.

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And the shape of it and the size of it.

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I mean, I didn't know what it was at the

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time until I didn't say, here's the thing. When I

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got back down in that parking lot, I ran down

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that hill pretty much and probably almost killed myself on

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the way down. I don't remember, but I got down

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there that thing in half the time that it took

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me to get up it or whatever. But when I

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got down there, I didn't tell them a thing. I was.

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There's like I said, there's three other people with me,

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and they're like, you know, how do you have fun

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something like that? You know, like whatever, you think they

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cared if I answered them, and I was like, yeah,

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it was great, and uh that was it. That's all

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that happened. And I you know, I thought about this,

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and why didn't I say anything to them? I don't know,

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maybe they would just think I'm nuts. And you know,

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I didn't want to be the the guy from the

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east They're all from that area, and uh, you know,

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I didn't want to be the guy from the east

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coast seeing something stupid out in the woods. And then

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you know, who knows what it was. I'm pretty sure

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I know what it was. But now so.

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Anyway, so Greg, that is that is an absolutely fascinating encounter.

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I do have some questions for you to go through.

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So if you had to summarize what it was that

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was in your mind, what your body was feeling, what

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made you want to get away from that area so

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quick when you got a chance to get away.

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Because it was looking at me. It was huge. I

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was looking in my direction, so I imagine it was

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looking at me. Maybe it was looking at the deer,

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maybe it was following the deer. And then I and

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then I thought later, I'm like, maybe it was there

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the whole time, and I sort of remember it getting

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like maybe from a squatting position, maybe maybe something like that,

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like getting up, and that's what Yeah, that's what made

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it caught my eye from the deer, and that's what

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brought me to a little to the left. As it

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got up or maybe if it wasn't squatting down on

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its haunches, I got the feeling it was looking at me,

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and I felt weird when the squirrel was around. I

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felt weird when the deer was around, and the two

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animals that I saw were acting pretty cautious, and I

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thought it was me, but I'm thinking maybe it was

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that thing. I don't know.

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But Okay, So were is there any time when sometimes

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people will report weird feelings or just they know that

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something's affecting them physically. Were there any feelings that were

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out of the ordinary during this encounter.

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No. Absolutely, Like I said before, it it was almost bliss.

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I was like, man, I'm so happy to be out here.

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It's so nice, it's great to be out in this

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you know, gorgeous to scenery, you know whatever. And then

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I see these animals and I'm like, that's cool. You know,

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I'm thinking, I'm like this is cool. You know, I'm like,

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these two squirrels are huge. And then this, what I

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found out later is a mule here. And then it

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turns into like a horror movie, you know, the cue

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the music, that type.

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Of Yeah, yeah, exactly, good bliss to terror. How long

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would you say the entire time was that you had

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visual eyes on it?

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I would say a good almost a minute, maybe maybe

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just over a minute when with with him walking with

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it walking away his male or female, But yeah, yeah,

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it was. It was. It wasn't It wasn't quick, but

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it wasn't like we had a conversation, right and I

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got his email.

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I dressed exactly.

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Man.

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So I'm just trying to put your Oh well, I

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don't so at the time, you're you're horrified. You want

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to get ei of there. So it's different.

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No, you know what it when that thing moved away

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and I got off that boulder and I got back

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down to the parking lot and buy my three friends,

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and there was a car there and nothing else was

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going on, and I saw that thing walk the total

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opposite way, and and I mean when when I say walk.

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It wasn't like it wasn't like a human walking. Man,

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This thing moved just like they say, not like it

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was running. But when it walked, it was walking probably

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three to four times as fast as a human. Okay,

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up a hill like up a man acid hill, I

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would say this thing was at least thirty degrees this

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hill a thirty degree incline.

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Gotcha? Yeah, how was it placing its it? So you

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definitely got a few more than a few seconds to

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look at how it was walking. Did you notice anything

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about how it was placing its feet or how its

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gate was.

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No, Okay, I don't, I don't, I don't remember. I don't.

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I didn't see any feet. And in fact, if I

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think about it, right about right where you would have

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like the shins on a human maybe like between the

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knee and the foot, is about as far down as

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I saw it, because I saw the knees, well, I

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saw the one knee from where its hand was placed

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down on its side, and I'm like, that looks like

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I mean it, it looked crazy like it didn't look

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like a human, right, But I mean, you know, I

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have you know, two legs and two arms and a head,

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so it was humanoid, but it wasn't on a human

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especially with that amount of hair and the size of it.

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I'm like, whoa. And that's what froze me. Is the

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fear that you get is like it's like these flashes.

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It's like I call them hot flashes. They're like it's

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that fight or fight flight or fight or flight a

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feeling that you get. It's like that that that dose

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of whatever it is that your body injects, like get

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out of there. I sat there and watched it and

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made sure that it wasn't going to come after me,

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and it moved away, and I was like, Okay, now

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I can get that out of here without having to

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worry about like screaming like help me to everyone back

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at that parking lot. That's basically why I sat there

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and watched it. So it was like a minute, maybe

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just over a minute.

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Yeah, it's it's I watched it.

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Yeah.

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It sounded like you're really experiencing a total rush of

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adrenaline during this. I mean, it sounds like it was

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very very intense for you.

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Yeah, if I can, you know, it's like you know,

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like something something just went down, like you got into

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a car accident or you know, it's it's that total,

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that total grim just bad feeling, you know, and it's

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like you're in danger, you know, do something about it feeling.

456
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:47.799
Absolutely, Uh, how wide across would you say if you're

457
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.599
let's say at the shoulders, how how wide across would

458
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:53.240
you estimate?

459
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.839
When this thing stood up? Like I said, there was

460
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.680
probably a tree there that wasn't very large, but it

461
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:04.319
was probably about just from you know, from the profile

462
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.279
from left to right or right to left, it would

463
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:13.039
be maybe twenty inches, Okay, And like I said, I

464
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.319
think this thing was angling. It's because when it moved

465
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.359
away and started walking up and walking away from me,

466
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.880
it was it looked a lot bigger, like just the

467
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.920
the silhouette of it, and you know, you got some

468
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.319
definition because it would go under some trees that was

469
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.720
shading it from the sunlight, and I could see it

470
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.920
was brown with some black hair mixed in, maybe even

471
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.839
some gray when it turned its face towards me, But

472
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:51.720
I can't really remember that, okay, gotcha, But it like

473
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.799
turned back and made sure that I, well, at least

474
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.039
I think it made sure that I wasn't trying to

475
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:57.559
follow it.

476
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.559
Make sense in I just want to double check something.

477
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.039
So it sounds like you weren't able to see facial

478
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.079
details details because of the sunlight. Correct.

479
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.319
Well, that and the this thing had a I mean

480
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.400
if you could, if you could with Star Wars Chewbacca,

481
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:29.359
the impression that I got was that its face was

482
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:35.480
mostly hair besides the mouth and eyes, something like that

483
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:41.160
Chewbacca style, like you know, look it was, it had

484
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.200
a lot of it had or maybe it's its hair

485
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.799
that was on its head was coming down. I don't know.

486
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:53.279
It was kind of like Gilly suite, you know, type

487
00:32:53.319 --> 00:33:00.279
of uh type of silhouette. It was undefined. You know,

488
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.400
it was hard to say, you know, if the if

489
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.680
the face was beare or if it had hair, if

490
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.680
the hair was just coming around its face. I couldn't

491
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:12.599
really tell. And at this point, like I said, it

492
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.799
was moving away, and it only did that twice, and

493
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:21.079
maybe I just remember that like the one time I

494
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:27.680
got a better frontal view of maybe its face then

495
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:34.480
the second time, and when I did, I definitely knew

496
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.480
it wasn't a human. I mean, it looked like Chewbacca

497
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.079
type of thing, sure, you know, and I didn't think

498
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.279
a bigfoot. I thought it was some kind of monster

499
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.519
like literally like some kind of what they would call

500
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.240
it cryptid, you know, but I did. That term wasn't

501
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.480
in my vocabulary at the time. I learned that afterward absolutely,

502
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.359
you know, like I'm like what is that? And I'm like,

503
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.079
this is crazy? You know, ran down the hill, got

504
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.079
back to them. You know, I acted like everything was great,

505
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.400
you know, eat some hot dogs, some hamburgers, called it

506
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.000
a day, drove back down the hill, and we were done.

507
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:18.599
Okay. Interesting, Just a few more questions about about this one.

508
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.320
Were there any smells or did you notice any weird

509
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.360
smells or sounds that could have been related to it?

510
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.239
No? And that was the funny thing is maybe because

511
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.159
I was smoking, well I hadn't been smoking for a

512
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:41.400
few minutes, but maybe that attracted something to me because

513
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:44.960
they smelled something foreign and they're like, what is that?

514
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.239
But I didn't notice any kind of when I when

515
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.639
I wasn't smoking. Now, it wasn't like when like I

516
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.320
smelled something foul or good or you know, or heard something.

517
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.679
And like I said, I just saw this, these two squirrels,

518
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:04.039
this deer, and then this thing.

519
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:10.119
Okay, thinking about the way it was built, did it

520
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.079
remind you of any sports figures or actors in the

521
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.039
term of like muscular build.

522
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.639
It was big, like it wasn't just like it was.

523
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.400
It wasn't. It was tall, so I can't say it

524
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:37.480
looks like Shaquille O'Neal. It was taller than Shaquillo. Yeah,

525
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:42.320
sure it wasn't exactly his build because it was bigger

526
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.639
than him too, But I mean it would be kinda

527
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.000
you know, kind of that. It wasn't like you were

528
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.159
stacked like you know, it was a v torso and

529
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.880
you know, I couldn't see that much anyway, but it

530
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.639
didn't look like that. It just you know, didn't look

531
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.599
it didn't look human. And the head, the thing with

532
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.480
the head and arm, the length of the arm and

533
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:14.280
that that sloping long head like a human's head. You know,

534
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.199
you get the forehead, but for the most part it

535
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.199
goes up a little bit at like the crest of

536
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.480
the cranium, and then it slopes back. You know. The

537
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.599
human's head is more elongated towards the back right than

538
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.480
it is tall. But this thing was like what people

539
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:39.599
describe now as I've heard later, as having that like

540
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:44.360
as much as I could see it, that kind of

541
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.480
longer conish head, you know, because you could see the

542
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.239
brow when the thing kind of turned. I remember this,

543
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.320
you know, and I saw the gray hair and in

544
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.360
the face you could see the brow line. But the

545
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.639
top of the head was significantly higher, you know, maybe

546
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.039
maybe like ten inches, I mean eight ten inches maybe.

547
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.960
Are you saying it had like a pronounced brow ridge

548
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.239
like it's stuck out a lot that kind of thing.

549
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.000
No, just the size of the cone head or cream

550
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.320
shaped head. It was just it was one looked didn't

551
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:24.119
look like a human.

552
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:33.039
Okay, very interesting. So yeah, have you ever some let's say,

553
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.519
some people, I guess we'll talk about this in a minute,

554
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:42.079
but some witnesses will really dive into it and they

555
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:46.159
will look into the area where they had their encounter.

556
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.519
Is that something you've ever done? And have you found

557
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:52.000
anything else that has happened in that same area? Report?

558
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.079
Yeah? Well let me yeah, just to continue, there's this

559
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.559
story a little bit. This happened in July and July fourth,

560
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:03.119
and then six months later I went to a Christmas party.

561
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.960
The woman who owned the house that I was living

562
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.159
in who asked me to come from the East coast

563
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.000
out there. She was an older lady and she lived

564
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.280
about an hour away she had a Christmas party and

565
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.599
she knew a bunch of people out there, and it was,

566
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.239
you know, she had like thirty forty people over her

567
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.719
house for this Christmas party. And we went over to

568
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:36.000
her house and just a short thing about this, we

569
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:41.480
got into a conversation about me. It was myself, her

570
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:48.039
and her best friend who's a female, and they said, oh, yeah,

571
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.280
you're from the East Coast, this, you know, blah blah blah,

572
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.119
this must be, you know, totally different for you out here.

573
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.000
I'm like, yeah, it's there's a lot of things that are,

574
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:01.400
you know, the same obviously, but they're there's obviously differences.

575
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:08.679
And and I don't know how I got onto it.

576
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.559
I don't remember. I tried to this day. I try

577
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.440
to remember how I said it, but I don't think

578
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.960
I said it just like this, But I basically said,

579
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.800
I'm like, like bigfoot. I'm like, do you guys know

580
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.400
anything about bigfoot? This is the first time I'm mentioning

581
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.039
anything about this to anybody out there. After this happened.

582
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.320
And these two weren't there, and they're like, oh yeah,

583
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.800
they're like, you guys on the East Coast treat it

584
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.760
like it's a myth, like a legend. They're like the mccaulumny,

585
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:45.760
the McCullum may Indians out here. Yeah, the mcculumy and

586
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.960
which are in Jackson, California, which is just you know,

587
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.679
like thirty minutes away. They have all sorts of legends.

588
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.320
They have rock carvings of Bigfoot in the Sasquatch whatever

589
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:06.480
they called it natively. And she's like, yeah, we And

590
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.960
then she goes, when I was a kid, she goes,

591
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:14.760
I live not far from here, and my father used

592
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:21.480
to see these huge, like huge like snooshoe huge size

593
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:25.079
footprints around our house at night in the snow in

594
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.400
the wintertime, and things would bang on the side of

595
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:32.159
the house. They're like, that stuff happens up here. They're like,

596
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.000
we just don't see it, you know, like a lot

597
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.760
of us don't see it directly, so we just kind

598
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.960
of treat it as, you know, like some strange bird

599
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.599
in the woods that you might hear, but who cares

600
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:53.719
that type of thing. And I'm like, really, okay, that

601
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.760
was it? Off the subject, talk about something else. So

602
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.440
I'm filed out a way, you know, in the archive

603
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:09.599
and when on my business So in that was twenty

604
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:18.480
ten and My second, which I wasn't expecting at all,

605
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.480
happened in twenty twenty one in the heat of COVID

606
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.440
during the social distancing you know, thing that was going on.

607
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:38.440
And in between that time, I did some looking things up.

608
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.079
In that show Finding Bigfoot I think it was called,

609
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.880
was on TV, right, and I had seen it on

610
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.360
and off, and I'm like, bingo, I'm like, that's what

611
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.320
it was. I'm like, that's exactly what it was, you know,

612
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.239
And that led me to go looking things up. I

613
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.920
don't want to mention these names, but you know websites

614
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.639
that have to do with this stuff and videos on

615
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:10.159
certain social media's or whatever, right, and checking things out

616
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:17.440
and then going, wow, this is crazy, Like this stuff happens,

617
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.079
like this isn't just that quote unquote Patterson Gimlin stuff

618
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.280
that happened in like the sixties or whatever it was.

619
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.639
You know, this doesn't just happen on the West Coast,

620
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.239
you know. And I'm like, this is crazy interesting seeing

621
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.760
that I had been out in the woods a lot,

622
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:43.800
but it was East Coast woods. It was like it

623
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:48.159
was it was woods that are winding between suburban areas

624
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.440
that you know, when you get out west and you

625
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.119
see some of the forest out there, and some of

626
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.840
the open expanses, You're like, oh, I don't even know

627
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:02.119
what woods were. You know what I would consider, you know,

628
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.119
the wilderness. It changes, you know what I would consider. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So,

629
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.880
I mean depends on where you are on the East Coast.

630
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.719
There's some big open areas out here, of course, but

631
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.599
for the most part, where people live or pretty tight

632
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.079
knit little areas, it's like a park or you know,

633
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:23.159
just a couple acres of woods behind the house, that

634
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.920
sandwich between two residential areas that kids cut through on

635
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.239
their bikes or whatever. That's all you experience most of

636
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:36.360
the time. So, you know, I started looking at something

637
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.800
and I'm like, that's crazy, and then I'm out here.

638
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.480
I moved back. I moved back to the two. I'm

639
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:48.199
in Connecticut now. I live near Yukon University, the big

640
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:55.440
basketball school up here in Mansfield, Connecticut, and it's a

641
00:43:56.199 --> 00:44:01.199
it's a farm area. It's a suburban rural slash farm

642
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.800
bedroom community. A lot of people travel to the capital

643
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.719
of the state to work every day, but there are

644
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.039
a lot of retirees that don't leave the house, that

645
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:18.119
don't you know, go outside of much. I don't really,

646
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:23.960
you know, care what goes on around them. There's a

647
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.719
lot of wildlife that has moved back into the area

648
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.360
from people don't believe that it still exists around here,

649
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:36.320
like moose and bear are back in Connecticut. I heard

650
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.480
you're from Western mass Am I correct.

651
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.320
Yes, sir, Northfield, the Franklin County up there and where

652
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.760
the three states go together. Yep.

653
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.000
So we get a lot of wildlife down from Western

654
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:55.239
mass And then you have the Adirondack National Park in

655
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.039
New York, which is not far away in Connecticut such

656
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:03.320
a small state that you could probably fit four connecticuts

657
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.159
in the adirond Ack. That park is so big. I

658
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.360
didn't know this until like a year ago, that that

659
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:11.960
park and rival some of the parks up in Alaska.

660
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:12.599
It's so big.

661
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:13.480
Oh yeah.

662
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.679
So, and it's a park, meaning that everything that's in

663
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:21.079
there is protected. And I don't believe you can even

664
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:26.239
bring a firearm in that park for self defense because

665
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:28.679
they don't want you to accidentally use it to hunt.

666
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.599
So I'm not sure about that. So everything in there

667
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.000
is protected, meaning it's a wildlife refuge, and a lot

668
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:43.480
of things travel over into Connecticut. Massachusetts Vermont, And what

669
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.199
I found out is there are sightings of these bigfoot

670
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.119
all over Connecticut. And you would you know, you're like Connecticut,

671
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:55.400
that's a you know, a kind of highly populated, small,

672
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:01.599
little condensed state that you wouldn't associate with foot. I mean,

673
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:05.360
it doesn't have sightings like Washington or Texas or Florida,

674
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:11.199
but are California, you know, but for being so small,

675
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:16.039
they're here. Oh yeah, people apparently have seen them. You know,

676
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.519
you have the Connectican we have three pretty large rivers,

677
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.239
two of them being fairly large, the Connecticut River and

678
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:29.519
the Housatonic River, and that Connecticut River it travels you know,

679
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.679
Barkhamsted Reservoir. They've seen them.

680
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:34.039
There, They've seen the hot spot.

681
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:38.320
Ye yeah, they've seen them all through you know. I

682
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.280
mean the Connecticut River starts in I think Canada, goes

683
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:45.400
all the way through Vermont, you know whatnot in any case,

684
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.599
it goes all the way down to Long Island Sound,

685
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:51.119
and they've seen them down by Long Island Sound, down

686
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:56.280
by the salt flats like off NINETI route are Interstate

687
00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:00.440
ninety five, like one of the most traveled inner states

688
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.679
in the country. They're within sight of that Highway sometimes.

689
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:12.840
Apparently they've got reports of them in Waterford in Niantic,

690
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.800
and I'm like, this is incredible. I'm like, that's crazy

691
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.559
that they're right in grotten, like right down there where

692
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:24.920
they build the submarines. And I'm like, that's nuts, you know,

693
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.039
Like why doesn't you know people talk about this more?

694
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:33.159
And why do people scoff at other people when they say, hey,

695
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.840
I saw something weird out there, and people know, you know,

696
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.119
what were you smoking? You know, rather than oh, yeah,

697
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.320
well tell me about it, you know, rather than keeping

698
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.519
an open in mind. Maybe I would have done the

699
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:48.760
same thing before this happened, but who knows. So anyway,

700
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.599
long story short, I started looking this stuff up and

701
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:57.639
I realized that it happens all over the place, now,

702
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:02.280
mind you. Between California and me moving back to Connecticut,

703
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:10.239
I lived in Arizona, Colorado, and Oklahoma, and I used

704
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.519
to do I used to do. I used to work

705
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:17.199
for the U in the theater business. In the I

706
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:23.119
was an electrician, and I traveled the locals and went

707
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.000
wherever the work was whatever, when there was a show

708
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.320
at a certain place or whatever I got to do.

709
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:33.800
I just took jobs wherever I was doing so. Anyway,

710
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.320
I looked up these states that I lived in, just

711
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.840
for the heck of it, and found out that these

712
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:48.440
bigfoot exist in Oklahoma, Colorado, and like everywhere, exactly everywhere.

713
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:51.719
You know. I'm I'm I'm surprised. They're probably in.

714
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.719
Delaware, you know, like I have a sighting from Delaware

715
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:56.400
on my map on.

716
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.280
Yeah, you probably do. I know They're in Rhode Island

717
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.760
for sure, you know, and that's a tiny little state,

718
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:08.400
you know. So anyway, so I looked this stuff up

719
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.639
and I'm just like, that is just crazy, you know.

720
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.480
And this is just a couple of years after twenty

721
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.679
ten that I looked at stuff, all right, you know,

722
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.400
probably right afterward. And then I was like, you know,

723
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.440
I don't know how old I was at the time,

724
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:30.199
but I'm like thirty five or whatever. And I'm like,

725
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.920
it took me that long to see this. I'll never

726
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.039
see this again. I'm like, that was crazy. And the

727
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:41.119
longer it got, I was like, that's just that's almost

728
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.840
like it didn't happen. I'm like, but it did, you know.

729
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.199
I'm like, that's just nuts. Like I've never seen anything

730
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.000
like that before, you know. It's like seeing a tiger

731
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.800
in the woods in North America. You know, you're like,

732
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.920
you know, like that's not supposed to be there, you know,

733
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.639
that type thing. You'll never forget it. But it happened.

734
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:07.199
So anyway, I stopped thinking about it. I was like,

735
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:11.119
this will never happen to me again. Whatever. And I

736
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.639
fished all the time. It was I'm single, I'm not married.

737
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.400
I don't have an excuse to be home all the time,

738
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.480
so I'm fishing or I'm doing something else whatever. I

739
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.519
spent a lot of time out in the woods, and

740
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:29.719
I never seen something like that. I've never even seen like,

741
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.039
you know, like a coyote like out in the woods

742
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:39.960
like in the wild, you know, or a rattlesnake, or

743
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.519
you know, something crazy like out of the ordinary. You know.

744
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.920
So when it comes to this, it blows your mind

745
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:52.119
and you start thinking, you're never going to see this again.

746
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.360
If it took me thirty five years or whatever it

747
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.280
was to see this in the first place, I'll never

748
00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:00.480
see it again. I went out beyond my business whatever.

749
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.239
And then I watched that Finding Bigfoot show, and I

750
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:08.239
was like, they never found Bigfoot. They they yelled in

751
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:10.440
the woods a lot, they banged on trees. I'm like,

752
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.760
this is ridiculous. I'm like, I'm not watching this. So

753
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.760
I kind of blew it off as like I understand

754
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:23.760
the phenomenon exists, but I don't really think that the media.

755
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:27.519
I think they were just trying to make people watch

756
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:31.199
the show. So I didn't pay any attention for you know,

757
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:35.280
let's just say, like twenty twelve, I didn't think about

758
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:42.119
it anymore. Twenty one, I'm back in Connecticut. COVID's going on,

759
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:51.599
COVID raging, were social distancing still and my girlfriend at

760
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:58.199
the times working nights, and I decide to leave right

761
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:04.079
after dinner and go fishing pretty much every night, so

762
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.559
seven days a week because I had nothing going on.

763
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:13.599
I wasn't working, we were all laid off and wasn't

764
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.599
doing anything. I had no reason to do anything and

765
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.119
went fishing and it was just it was you know,

766
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:28.360
it was probably this is August of twenty one, and

767
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.960
it was probably about seven pm, so it was about

768
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:42.079
an hour before it got dusky dark out, and I

769
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.159
pull intil let me set the scene. These houses. I'm

770
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:49.519
in Chaplain, Connecticut. This is not a place that you

771
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.880
would think you would see something like this at all,

772
00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:03.360
and I go to this little pond that they have

773
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.840
in the middle of a residential area, and the houses

774
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:11.960
are set up, you know, kind of all over the

775
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.960
place because the roads in Connecticut aren't straight, they curve,

776
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.239
and you know, just like Massachusetts, they go all over

777
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.800
the place. So most of the house properties are half

778
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.920
acre to a full acre, and they're mostly wooded except

779
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.800
for just around the house where they've cleared it out,

780
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.320
and it's usually grass with ornamental shrubs and you know,

781
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.880
flowers and trees and whatnot. So that's kind of a

782
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:44.840
scene around there. The surrounding area from those little residential

783
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:48.559
nooks and crannies that are in these areas is wooded

784
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:55.159
and pretty heavily wooded. And like I said, because it's

785
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.519
bordered by so much private property those woods, nobody goes

786
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:05.159
in them because you know, it's usually no public access

787
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.880
and they border private property, so you're going to end

788
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.280
up on somebody's property or cutting through it trying to

789
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.039
get out. So it's not a good idea trying to

790
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:19.360
go in there. It almost makes a perfect sanctuary. And

791
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.199
once you find in these places are deer. They bed

792
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.559
down in white tailed deer they bed down in the

793
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:28.599
forest during the day and they sleep because they're protected.

794
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.119
They have no well, at least I thought they had

795
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:38.760
no predators in the area for the most part. And

796
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.840
you know, it's it's it's almost like a park. And

797
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.519
the attitude of the people, like I said, in this area,

798
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.679
a lot of them work, a lot of them aren't

799
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:54.119
home during the day. And you know, for the most part,

800
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:58.280
half of the year is dark in the winter time,

801
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.320
so you're not going to go out into the woods anyway.

802
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.400
Is cold here. And then you have the opposite. In

803
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:06.280
the wintertime, people are trying to RelA or in the summertime,

804
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.719
people are trying to relax after work, hot day. You know,

805
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.079
they're they're chilling out in the ac you know, on

806
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.159
Netflix or whatever they're doing. They're not going outside. That's

807
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.039
just what happens around here. I don't know what happens

808
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:27.800
where you live, but around here, that's what happens. Similar exactly,

809
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:30.800
like I don't care what people say. A lot of

810
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.960
people don't go outside. They don't. They might live like

811
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.960
I live in the woods, but the amount of time

812
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.480
that I spend out in these woods is minimum because

813
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.320
I got a whole lot of things I'm doing in

814
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:49.000
the house I have to do so anyway, That's my point.

815
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.760
There's things that I think that move around these these

816
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:59.199
properties that people don't see but they assume don't exist.

817
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.840
And when it happens to somebody and they say, hey, Bob,

818
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:07.559
I saw something out there, Bob says, oh, yeah, yes,

819
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:12.280
you know, it's like, what are you gonna do? You know,

820
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.280
It's like, Bob, I wouldn't tell you if I didn't

821
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.880
see something, you know, I didn't want to tell you anyway.

822
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.960
You know, it's like, what am I gonna do here?

823
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.000
You know? So a lot of people don't say anything.

824
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.519
Even if they do say something, and they don't they

825
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.159
don't know what it is. Like I didn't know what

826
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.760
it was until I start looking things up and looking

827
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.719
around seeing TV shows and I'm like, that's what it was.

828
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:42.239
They don't say anything, you know, they don't anyway. And

829
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.559
I also want to mention this. When I moved from

830
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:51.199
Connecticut to California, I drove, I drove the whole way,

831
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:56.480
I stopped, you know, I didn't drive the whole time.

832
00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:02.239
But what I noticed I went from a city and

833
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:07.360
a concrete jungle was once you leave the East Coast,

834
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:10.039
and I'm not talking far off the east coast, maybe

835
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:19.159
fifteen miles off the east coast, it opens up, there's nobody. Yeah,

836
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.840
of course, you run into cities and towns and there's

837
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.559
you know, you know, there's some big cities out there,

838
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:26.559
but if you think about it, in the United States,

839
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:31.719
there's only a handful of big cities really. The rest

840
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:34.000
of them are just like these little medium towns with

841
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.000
suburbs around them. And once you get out from around

842
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:41.719
them and see how much open land, you're like, wow,

843
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:48.719
there's a lot more open land and like unoccupied space

844
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:54.679
than there is, like way more. And I've traveled all

845
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.960
over this country at this point. I've been to a

846
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:02.440
lot of it. And it's the thing. No matter where

847
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.800
you go, there's a lot of open space, and there's

848
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:12.880
a lot of places that people can make mistakes. Let's

849
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.480
just you know, let's also say, hey, when I was

850
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.719
growing up, like in the eighties, they thought the Brontosaurus

851
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.679
was the biggest dinosaur that ever lived, and the Big

852
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:28.119
Bang fairy was true. We've come to find out that

853
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:32.119
that's not right, right, So who's to say, you know,

854
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:37.960
and then you hear about ghosts, aliens, bigfoot, cryptids, all

855
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:42.239
this other stuff and all like for a long time,

856
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:48.400
hundreds of years in literary works of old you know,

857
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:51.320
all the way back you know, to modern day, and

858
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:55.719
you're like, well, it probably does exist. Then if all

859
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:01.480
these people are seeing it and I'm just not privy

860
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.079
to ever seeing it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

861
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.639
You know, I've never seen it. I've never seen a

862
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:12.480
polar bear with my own eyes, but I know they

863
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.679
exist because they exist in zoos. I've seen them on video,

864
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:19.000
you know whatever. You know, somebody comes and tells me

865
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.559
they've seen a polar bear, I'm gonna go, oh, that's cool, man,

866
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.079
that's great where you see it at a zoo and

867
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.519
you know whatever. And you know, I'm not gonna say

868
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:29.960
it like, hey, I came to see it, I saw

869
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:33.679
a bigfoot, and I'm gonna say, oh, come on, you know,

870
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.960
like I wouldn't say that at this point. I'd be

871
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.400
like wow, really, you know, like I don't know if

872
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.360
i'd say I did too, but i'd say, well, tell

873
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:45.800
me about it, what did you see? And I would

874
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:49.840
not be like, oh, bunch of bull you know whatever?

875
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:54.760
Right say anyway, So you want me to talk about

876
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.920
what happened in twenty one. Absolutely, yeah, right, So I'm

877
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.840
going fishing. And like I said, it's about seven o'clock August,

878
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.760
starting to get dark, maybe pulling too this parking lot

879
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:13.280
in the middle of suburbia, and I'm in a pickup

880
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:18.639
truck and there's there's two other grown men and I

881
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.119
think they were they probably were a little bit older

882
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:26.800
than me. One of them's putting like some tackle on

883
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:30.199
his fishing line and getting his rig together to go fishing.

884
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.400
The other one's already at the water, has a kayak

885
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:37.519
in the water and it's putting on like a lightvest,

886
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:41.639
getting ready to get in his kayak. So I'm gonna

887
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.119
do the same thing and start I'm gonna go fishing.

888
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.639
So I start getting my fishing rod out from the

889
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.639
back of the truck and putting it together and whatnot

890
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:58.360
and whatever I'm doing. And we're not talking, you know,

891
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.599
I'm not. This is like I said, it's COVID. We're

892
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.880
social distancing, we're you know, good distance apart. So it's

893
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:12.960
just kind of doing our thing. And I turned around

894
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.719
after I got my rod ready to go, and I

895
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.840
turned around and I'm like, all right, I got two

896
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.960
other guys here, and this place isn't big anyway, So

897
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:24.639
I'm like, where am I going to go? Where am

898
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.320
I going to stand? I got I'm like, all right,

899
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:29.519
let me wait until the guy in the kayak goes

900
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.960
out so he's away from the shore, and then I'll

901
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.199
see where this guy next to me is gonna go,

902
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:38.880
and then I'll go, you know, the opposite way from him.

903
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.440
So I was kind of waiting for these two guys

904
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:45.239
to go out and set up wherever they wanted to go.

905
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:51.440
And the guy in the kayak gets in the in

906
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:57.440
the kayak, and I noticed he starts going out this

907
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:02.960
This little pond is maybe seventy five feet there's seventy

908
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:10.559
five yards wide by maybe two hundred yards long, and

909
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:13.800
it's more or less like an oval. So it's it's

910
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:20.119
you know, kind of basic dimensions. We're at the southern

911
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.119
end of it, on the long looking the long way

912
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:27.440
on this oval, and on the on the left side

913
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:32.440
of it is a bunch of like reeds and kind

914
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:39.440
of swampy marshy area and very thick brush like it's

915
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:45.199
five six feet tall, just brambles, probably raspberry BlackBerry bushes

916
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:50.320
and whatever type of native you know brush is there

917
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.760
and whatnot. Right by the water's edge. It's grown real

918
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:59.000
good because of the water there. And it goes up

919
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:05.719
about maybe two hundred yards up just a slight little incline,

920
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:10.280
maybe about fifteen twenty degrees, and then it starts heading

921
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.920
into somebody's backyard up way up on the hill. Up,

922
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:18.199
you know, further up on that hill. You can see

923
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:25.519
a house, I think it was white. And by this

924
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:32.400
marsh there's a mylar balloon like a kid's balloon, like

925
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:36.199
a happy birthday balloon that got away and ended up

926
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:41.039
floating and lost the lost the helium or whatever gases

927
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:46.239
in it, and fell to this pond and ended up there. Well, this,

928
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:50.440
this guy in the kayak was being a good person

929
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:55.960
and went over there and tried to pull the mylar

930
01:03:56.199 --> 01:04:00.159
out of the pond and you know, get rid of it.

931
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:05.000
So he's over there and he, you know, he paddles

932
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:07.400
his way over there. It's it's you know, it's not far.

933
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.519
It's like thirty thirty yards from the shore to this

934
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.519
area on the left, this marshy area that's choked with

935
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:21.000
brush on the on the shore. And he starts grabbing

936
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:24.159
the milar of this balloon, and if you know what

937
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:26.960
a mylar balloon sounds like it sounds like a real

938
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.800
rigid plastic and it just makes a lot of noise,

939
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.320
and it's like, you know, whatever, man he's he's in it.

940
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:38.360
They're big, apparently they're they're a lot bigger than they look.

941
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.199
And he's pulling this thing into the kayak and kind

942
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:47.360
of shoving it inside by his feet, making making some noise,

943
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:55.079
and all of a sudden, this huge crashing, I mean,

944
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.960
like the loudest thing I've ever heard in the woods

945
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.039
comes crashing out of that brush that was right by

946
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:06.920
the edge of that pond on the on this pond

947
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:12.440
on the left, and there's a couple little trees that

948
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.119
were maybe I don't know what you would call the

949
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:19.559
diameter of it, maybe you know, like these ten inch

950
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:23.440
saplings like white birch they were, because you could you

951
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:26.400
could see that they were white against the green grass

952
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:29.960
of the hill that they that was going up behind them.

953
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:37.239
And I mean loud like it sounded like a truck

954
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:42.320
was in those bushes, but no engine, Just like a

955
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:47.000
truck was moving through those bushes without an engine, Like

956
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.840
just the sound of the trees crashing and and the

957
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:55.119
the the commotion of the the brush was just like

958
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.719
what is that? It sounded like Jurassic Park, you know,

959
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:04.360
like like I was expecting a Tyrannosaurus wrecks come bursting

960
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:07.000
out of the trees and just like eat this guy

961
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.679
pulling the milar balloon out. That's how loud it was.

962
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:17.159
And I'm I'm just like mouth open as I'm watching

963
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.039
this guy in the he's doing the same thing in

964
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:24.280
the boat. He stops what he's doing, like with the mine,

965
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:27.280
and everybody's just staring. The guy next to me in

966
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:31.159
the truck, the guy in the kayak, and me, We're

967
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:34.880
all looking at this thing. It starts, it gets out

968
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:39.280
of the brush and it's it's huge again. It's huge,

969
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.719
but it's not standing tall. It's on fours and it

970
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:49.639
flies up this hill and when it hit that passed

971
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:52.119
by a tree. It was on the right side of

972
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:55.960
the tree. The tree was on its left. That birch

973
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.679
that made have been like eight or ten inches in diameter,

974
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:04.519
it smacked it. That whole tree swayed like it was

975
01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:08.400
a like like a like it was made of rubber.

976
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:16.519
Like the where it hit it bulged out the top

977
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:19.199
of the canopy of the tree went to the right

978
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:24.639
and then the ricocheted back to the left, and all

979
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:29.000
these this is middle August, all these leaves started falling,

980
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.559
like these green leaves that should have been stuck to

981
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:38.639
the branches started falling off it and running up the hill.

982
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.639
I'm not kidding in Jeremiah. It was a bear sized.

983
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.519
It looked like an orangutan, but the size of a

984
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:52.039
black like, not a black bear, like like what you

985
01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:55.280
would see like a Kodiak bear. And it was that color,

986
01:07:55.960 --> 01:08:00.239
like that reddish brown on four legs, and you can

987
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.280
see the muscles on its back run up the hill

988
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:10.239
and it was like it looked like a gorilla or

989
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:15.480
a monkey on all fours hauling up that hill. But

990
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:19.439
it was massive and made the loudest noise I've ever

991
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:24.479
heard in the forest. Did the guy next to me,

992
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:26.800
I'm like, did you see that? He goes, yeah, man,

993
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.720
what was that? And I'm like, I have a pretty

994
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.159
good idea of what it was. He goes, was that

995
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.800
a deer? And I'm like, no, that wasn't a deer.

996
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:39.560
I didn't hear what you know. We never talked to

997
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:42.680
the guy in the kayak, but the guy next to

998
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.600
me through he was in a pickup truck too. He

999
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.920
threw his rod and the craft that he had that

1000
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:50.199
he got ready in the back of his truck and

1001
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:55.239
left immediately. I sat there for a while. The guy

1002
01:08:55.319 --> 01:09:00.479
that was getting the milar balloon finally pulled the luning

1003
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.520
and then he went to the total opposite end of

1004
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:08.159
the pond, like way up the top and the opposite bank.

1005
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:16.680
So I ended up. I was like, oh, what you know?

1006
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:21.199
I mean, it's you know, it's gone. I didn't hear

1007
01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:25.880
anything else, so I'm like, when am I gonna? I

1008
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.800
ended up fishing, but I couldn't fish for long because

1009
01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:31.720
I was I was kind of panicking. I'm sitting there.

1010
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:36.840
I'm like, I threw like maybe three casts out. I cat.

1011
01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:39.800
I fish with lures, so it's like I don't fish

1012
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:43.960
with light date so it's it's easy, and I threw

1013
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:47.039
like three or four casts whatever. But I'm constantly like

1014
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.399
looking at the woods and I'm like, what I'm thinking

1015
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.960
of California and I'm like, this is Connecticut. I'm like,

1016
01:09:55.680 --> 01:10:00.439
I'm like, that wasn't a bear, Like it's huge. I

1017
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:07.640
mean it was huge. It looked I mean the color

1018
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:12.880
of an orangutan, the build of a girl, a silverback gorilla,

1019
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:20.520
on all fours, but probably two to three times the

1020
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:26.960
size of a silverback gorilla. What is that in Connecticut?

1021
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:30.439
I don't know.

1022
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:36.199
So here's the man. There's a lot. There's a lot

1023
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:38.840
going on here. So it's interesting because I'm thinking of

1024
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.520
other New England reports I've had, and it's similar to

1025
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:45.159
a few other places that I've talked to people. And

1026
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.520
I'm thinking about a guy who.

1027
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:51.560
When it was fast too, man like, like I'm talking fast,

1028
01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:55.479
like faster than any dog I've ever seen running after something.

1029
01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:01.359
Absolutely. I had a person who described an albino version

1030
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:05.159
of this in Agam mass which is crazy, and then

1031
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:09.720
another which is wild, right, and then another person saw

1032
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:15.840
an orangutan type creature. This is like south of the

1033
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.600
Kabbin on Route nine over by, like where in relative town.

1034
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:27.119
So it's like, I'm sorry, I lived in Marlboro. Oh yeah,

1035
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:33.079
but man, that's that's wild. So how okay? First off,

1036
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:35.720
I want to ask, so the first sighting you had,

1037
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.359
when you got a time to leave, you were out

1038
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:43.439
of there. Yeah, you waited a few minutes.

1039
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:47.000
Second time, this thing was running again in the opposite direction.

1040
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.880
It got out of there so fast, it was so big.

1041
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:52.880
I mean it was, like I said, it was the

1042
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:57.079
color of an orangutan, like that reddish brown, that that

1043
01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.600
bright reddish brown. It wasn't like, you know, like a

1044
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.479
brown bear like that ruddy brown. It was that bright,

1045
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:08.600
bright red brown. And it wasn't the side. It was

1046
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:11.479
way bigger than a ring and team, even those male

1047
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:14.000
ones that you see at the zoo, those full grown

1048
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:19.239
male ones. This was probably three times bigger than that. Wow. Yeah,

1049
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:22.600
so was it?

1050
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.199
Was it similar though, in any ways to what you

1051
01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:27.439
saw out in California? Or was this kind of like

1052
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:28.800
a different This was.

1053
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:31.520
Totally different because it was on four legs. It looked

1054
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:35.640
like right, I mean, Jeremiah, to be honest with you,

1055
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.000
I mean, I can't say it was a bigfoot, but

1056
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:42.039
it was on four legs. It was the color of

1057
01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:46.640
of what I've heard people other people report as one.

1058
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:50.600
It was bigger than the one I saw in California

1059
01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:54.760
if you were to I think, if I were to

1060
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:59.720
put that into a on a four legged pose or position,

1061
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.720
the one I saw here in Connecticut was a lot bigger.

1062
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:07.880
Now here's another thing, man, We've had just in the

1063
01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:11.720
same town that I live in. On on that that

1064
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:19.560
one website, there's a report of a bigfoot tracking a

1065
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:22.159
father and son while they were fishing on a lake

1066
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:24.239
up here. It was following them on the on the

1067
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:30.479
bank while they were in a boat. And there's you know,

1068
01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.239
so I found out around here too. I did the

1069
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.600
same thing I did when it when it happened in California.

1070
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.039
I started looking. I'm like, it happens out here too.

1071
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:41.000
I'm like, this is crazy, you know, this is nuts,

1072
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:47.800
you know, And I'm surprised people, you know, don't say

1073
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:50.800
I'm not surprised. It's the Northeast. People are a little

1074
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.239
more tight lipped out here. They don't talk about things

1075
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:55.960
a lot more. You know, there's a lot more finger

1076
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:57.960
point and there's a lot more people that will call

1077
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.640
you crazy here, you know. There there's a lot more

1078
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.840
people that are critical about people that live next to them,

1079
01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:08.479
and you know whatever. So I'm not surprised people don't

1080
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:10.079
talk you know what I mean?

1081
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.119
Oh yeah, I mean And this is two guys from

1082
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:21.720
New England saying this. I mean, yeah, you man, I

1083
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.439
never heard weird stuff growing up in Western mass People

1084
01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:25.520
just wouldn't talk about it.

1085
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:25.880
You know.

1086
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:29.199
It's like just how you said, they don't want to

1087
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.199
be looked at as the crazy one back and this

1088
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:33.279
is like in the nineties.

1089
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:37.960
Yeah, you know what, let me add this to I'm

1090
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.960
just gonna say this real quick. I was brought up.

1091
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:42.520
I was brought up Roman Catholic. I was brought up

1092
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.920
in the Roman Catholic Church, meeting in their parochial school system.

1093
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.319
And I went through like my first and like elementary

1094
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:54.319
school grades one through eight, and then my high school.

1095
01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:56.920
I did two more years in a Catholic high school

1096
01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:04.359
in Connecticut. And I had I had a priest when

1097
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:07.760
I was younger, in like maybe the eighth or ninth grade,

1098
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.920
and his name was Father John, but I don't remember

1099
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.439
his last name. It was an Italian name. In any case,

1100
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:22.000
he was a great guy. Everybody liked him, and I

1101
01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:27.039
had mentioned or I don't remember how how it got along.

1102
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:30.359
But anyway, my grandmother comes to me one day and

1103
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.199
she had clipped out of the newspaper, like this is

1104
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.359
back in the eighties. She clips out of the newspaper

1105
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:46.560
this article that Father John was recognized as the diocese

1106
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.680
which is the town that I'm from, which is actually

1107
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.399
just outside of New York, and it's it's governed by

1108
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:56.760
the New York and the New York Bishops or whatever

1109
01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.800
it is, so they have, you know, control of this,

1110
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.119
so it's a big deal. He's the he's the local exorcist.

1111
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:09.199
So this is kind of like on a parallel subject.

1112
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:10.760
But I'm just going to tell you this real quick.

1113
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:14.239
So I found this out and she you know, and

1114
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.359
the church just wanted, you know, make it aware, and

1115
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:22.079
I guess in the paper or whatever. And I went

1116
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.039
to back to school like maybe in the next week,

1117
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:29.359
and I had talked to this priest because he taught

1118
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:35.079
my one of my math classes, like my practical math class.

1119
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:37.880
I kind of add two cups of water together and

1120
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.880
you know, four tablespoons of butter, right type of stuff,

1121
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:45.479
like home economics type of thing. And I said, I

1122
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.600
was like, father John. I was like, you're the Exorcist.

1123
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:52.359
I'm like, I saw that movie. And he laughs. He's

1124
01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:56.760
like yeah, he's like you saw that article on and

1125
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.359
I'm like yeah, I'm like that's crazy. I'm like that's real,

1126
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:07.359
like like questioning. He's like yeah it is. And I'm like, oh,

1127
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.800
that's the first time any of this woohoo stuff was

1128
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.279
you know, people told me that that didn't that wasn't real.

1129
01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:23.079
Bigfoot's not real. Ghosts aren't real, Demons and devils aren't real.

1130
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:29.479
Ufhos aren't real. Guess what government's talking about. UFOs church

1131
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:33.840
is dealing with demons. Everybody talks about seeing ghosts. Apparently

1132
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.359
everybody sees Bigfoot too. A lot of people do. So

1133
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:42.319
what do you think is everybody lying? No?

1134
01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:45.399
I mean we know that this this stuff is real.

1135
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:49.039
I mean there is a different side of the world

1136
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:52.640
that we cannot see, but it is out there. Man,

1137
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:56.760
and dude, like the people coming forward with with just

1138
01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:02.159
bigfoot stuff is really escalating quickly. I've noticed over the

1139
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:05.520
last few years, like there's a lot, a lot of stuff.

1140
01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:07.520
Everyone's getting to the point where it's like, as you said,

1141
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:12.760
the government's like, hey, UFO's real. All that stuff, well man,

1142
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.319
Bigfoot's next up. Who knows what could come out next?

1143
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:18.680
Well, man, I'd be honest with you if you were

1144
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:20.520
to ask me the question of what do you think

1145
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.960
Bigfoot is? I don't know. I'd be honest with you.

1146
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:29.279
There's that, you know, there's those those brew explanations that

1147
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:31.800
everybody's heard that I have heard, you know, just looking

1148
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:36.239
into this and I'm like, man, that doesn't sound like

1149
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:40.399
it it's wrong, you know, like it could be just

1150
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:47.039
some some unidentified piecies of humanoid primate that we've never

1151
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:51.039
come across. It could be from another planet like a

1152
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:55.439
UFO type alien thing. Or it could be totally spiritual

1153
01:18:55.560 --> 01:19:00.880
because there's videos and kind of evidence in reports of

1154
01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:01.720
all three of them.

1155
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:06.640
Oh sure, yeah, they happen at the same time.

1156
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:07.359
Sometimes.

1157
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:11.239
Absolutely, it's weird, you know.

1158
01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:14.560
And if you're like, man, I don't know what it is,

1159
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.359
I still don't. I don't know, but I'll tell you

1160
01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:23.840
this much. Why do I say that Because I'm fifty

1161
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:28.439
years old this year and I've seen it twice. Now

1162
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:35.760
Why have I seen that twice when there's people out

1163
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:40.760
there that don't even see it once? So what I'm

1164
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.119
trying to say with that is is there comes some

1165
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:47.279
kind of spiritual connection with I saw it once, I'll

1166
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:51.640
see it again type of thing, like like that type

1167
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:55.760
of like you break open the barrier, I think. So,

1168
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.439
you know, I don't know, man, you know, Like, but

1169
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:05.239
I mentioned I've a lot of people are gonna hear

1170
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:09.439
this story, probably hundreds is maybe not thousands, and maybe more.

1171
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:18.239
But I've never told this story to more than it's low.

1172
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:24.600
I can't even think maybe two people wow, and they

1173
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:32.119
both looked at me like they didn't say anything like

1174
01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:38.439
like oh that's great, Oh you're crazy, like nothing, So

1175
01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:43.640
you can just imagine they have never ever experienced anything

1176
01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:46.880
like this. So I'm like, so, why do this happen

1177
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:51.159
twice to me? You know, like, where does that come from?

1178
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:56.119
It just doesn't make any sense. So I think there

1179
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.319
is something more to it than just something walking around

1180
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:02.960
the woods of the world, you know, wherever it is,

1181
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:09.359
you know, but I don't know, I don't know.

1182
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:13.720
It's man, it's one of those questions where it's hard

1183
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:16.119
to get answers, but it feels like you're you're a

1184
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.000
guy that is open to trying to figure out what's

1185
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:22.600
what's going on out there, and you're not just shutting

1186
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:26.439
everything down. So honestly, I think we also have it.

1187
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:33.000
There's a road literally five miles away from me. Well,

1188
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.439
actually it happened five miles away that they that somebody

1189
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:41.520
had an ambulance driver, an ambulance crew, three people in it,

1190
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:46.960
had a had a dogmen encounter with two dogmen on

1191
01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:50.159
the side of the road. You've heard of them, right.

1192
01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.720
Yeah, they they get in the show every once in

1193
01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:54.960
a while, that stuff kind of freaks me out.

1194
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:58.199
Yeah, So it's like, you know, you hear about this stuff,

1195
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.720
and you know, I'm like, well, I'm not gonna say no,

1196
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:07.119
you know, I'm not gonna say that didn't happen, especially

1197
01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:11.199
after my experiences, but I'm just like, wow, this is

1198
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:16.039
like this is like, you know, some kind of fantastical

1199
01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:20.119
wonderland that we thought, you know, Like I said, man,

1200
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:23.399
people go out there. They live their lives, they go

1201
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:28.680
to work, they meet their their their mate whatever. They

1202
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:31.600
live their lives. They have kids, they pay their bills,

1203
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:35.279
they they do their thing. They get into hobbies that

1204
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:39.119
they could hardly do because they're so busy. They don't

1205
01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:45.560
really look into stuff like this unless they're extraordinarily interested

1206
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:49.159
in it. You know. If that's their thing, they're gonna

1207
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:51.000
look at it and then they're gonna get into it

1208
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:53.880
and they're gonna be open to it. Most other people

1209
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:56.399
are just gonna say, oh, what is that, Like, oh,

1210
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:00.119
it's a ghost, you know, Like I know somebody that

1211
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.760
won't even watch like a Marvel movie or a Star

1212
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.960
Wars movie, or like the most popular fictional thing that

1213
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.720
you could possibly present to them because they just do

1214
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:16.439
not accept fiction in one way, shape or form at all.

1215
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:22.960
There's people like that, you know, they go about life

1216
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.319
thinking that they have it all, that this is what's

1217
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.520
out there. They're you know, out in the woods. There's squirrels,

1218
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:33.880
there's birds, there's bears, there's whatever. That's it. There's no

1219
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:40.039
you know, nothing else. I thought that too, you know.

1220
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:44.520
And I'm you know, after all these years, fifty years

1221
01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:47.520
of living and scientists pulling, now most of the stuff

1222
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:51.920
is small. And then I find out the Mountain gorilla

1223
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:55.680
was like discovered in the late eighteen hundreds, and I'm like,

1224
01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:59.800
you're kidding me. Yeah, Yeah, And I live near Long

1225
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:03.359
Eye Island Sound in Connecticut. Obviously it's not a big state.

1226
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:06.439
Everything's in there of the sound. There are people for

1227
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.960
years where like, oh, there's no sharks in Long Island Sound.

1228
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.199
If there are, they're like sandbar sharks and sand sharks.

1229
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:16.840
And yeah, there was a fourteen foot great white that

1230
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:20.439
was tagged off the off of a dock in Greenwich.

1231
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:25.279
Like Greenwich, Greenwich, Connecticut is like one of the most

1232
01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:28.079
expensive areas outside New York.

1233
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:29.399
City, right, it really is.

1234
01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:33.239
Yeah, yeah, And they got these sharks that travel through

1235
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:36.720
in the summertime, just like Bigfoot travels of the Connecticut

1236
01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:38.399
River Valley all year round.

1237
01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:45.159
Is that it's just a fascinating conversation. Great, So, I

1238
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:47.880
guess really, the one of the last questions I have

1239
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:51.600
where is so, if you haven't really shared this account

1240
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.600
with just a few people over the years, why is

1241
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:59.159
it important to come forward now and to share to

1242
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:02.199
such a large o audience what it is that happened

1243
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:03.159
to you at both those times.

1244
01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:06.479
Well, I I saw the videos in Connecticut, and I

1245
01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:09.119
saw that there was the comments that there was a

1246
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:11.920
lot of people that were like, whoa, They're in Connecticut,

1247
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:18.079
Like oh. I also had a cousin who lived in Oxford,

1248
01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:21.680
Connecticut by Naugatuck State Forest, and she used to tell

1249
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:24.159
me stories that she used to hear stuff at night,

1250
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.079
yelling and screaming in the middle of the forest and

1251
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:31.119
stuff like that, and I was like, we were so young.

1252
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:34.279
I was like, was it you know, like, was it

1253
01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:36.439
a horror movie going on out there or something? I

1254
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:40.199
didn't care. Well after this happened, and I remember that,

1255
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:42.079
and then I heard people talking about that in the

1256
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:44.760
comments of your videos, and I'm like, yeah, they're apparently

1257
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:48.479
all over the place. And I started reading these comments

1258
01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:52.399
and there's like, oh, I'm from Monroe. Oh I'm from

1259
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:56.239
Fairfield though I'm from you know, Litchfield County or this.

1260
01:25:56.680 --> 01:25:59.880
I'm like, yeah, they're all over there. I'm like, you

1261
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:03.000
just don't understand. I'm like Lakefield County right next to

1262
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:08.199
New York. I'm like it was loaded like Candlewood Lake area,

1263
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:12.159
that whole area north, like Cornwall Bridge where people go

1264
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:16.800
fishing and take pictures. That whole area has probably swarmed

1265
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:21.039
with them. That's like right next to the New York

1266
01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:26.319
state and Massachusetts. You know. Yeah, It's it's crazy, man.

1267
01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:29.359
And you know, like I said, I don't think people

1268
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:32.600
go outside enough. I don't think they really you know,

1269
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:37.359
I don't you know people, I just I just come

1270
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:41.720
away with it. People. I'm not saying that they're they're

1271
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:44.000
dumb or anything like that. I just don't think that

1272
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:48.399
they care enough to identify things like this, to whereas

1273
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:52.119
when they come up in the next conversation or experience

1274
01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:55.880
with somebody who's dealt with it, that they don't go, oh,

1275
01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:56.800
that's total bs.

1276
01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:01.640
You know, it's like whatever, Yeah, exactly. And if people

1277
01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:04.239
are actually going out in the woods, they're not present.

1278
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:04.640
You know.

1279
01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:07.720
It's like if you're going out in the woods, be

1280
01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:12.079
present and you will be surprised at the things you notice,

1281
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:15.960
you know what I mean. So yeah, it's wild. So Greg,

1282
01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:20.319
this is what an awesome conversation. Thank you for coming

1283
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:24.079
on the show to share this. I mean, I don't

1284
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:26.079
get a lot of people from New England coming on,

1285
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:29.920
and so whenever I'm able to get when someone is like, yeah,

1286
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.439
I'll do it, I mean, it's a very special thing.

1287
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:34.359
So thank you for coming on the show. Greg.

1288
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:37.079
Well, that's another reason why I did it too, is

1289
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:39.800
because I figured that there wasn't a lot of people

1290
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:42.159
from New England on, so I figured I might as

1291
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:44.800
well pipe up and at least tell about my too

1292
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.760
little short Well of one of them is in New England.

1293
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:51.279
Jon was in California. But anyway, yeah, it was great

1294
01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:55.279
having in here. Thank you for listening, and I appreciate

1295
01:27:55.479 --> 01:28:00.600
your Your channel is great, and I really, I really

1296
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:06.640
appreciate your enthusiasm with going after people who have stories

1297
01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:08.199
and saying hey I want to hear it.

1298
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:12.159
Thank you, thank you. I'm glad. I'm glad that comes across.

1299
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:14.600
If you ever have anything else happened, Greg, it does

1300
01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.239
you can send me You can send me email, reach

1301
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:18.439
out and we'll keep in touch.

1302
01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:21.199
Man. Yeah, if I have a three PET, I love contact.

1303
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:23.399
All right, cool, cool, all right.

1304
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:25.680
All right, Jeremiah, have a great time. Thank you for

1305
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:26.239
having me.

1306
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:32.800
You too, Sarah, thank you. Before we wrap this episode,

1307
01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.399
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1308
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:38.920
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1309
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:41.960
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1310
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.239
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

1311
01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:48.880
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're

1312
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.239
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1313
01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:55.479
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1314
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:59.039
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1315
01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:02.119
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1316
01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:05.760
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1317
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:08.880
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1318
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:12.760
on a remote oil field or a trucker with government

1319
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:16.479
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1320
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:20.079
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1321
01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:23.680
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1322
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:27.439
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1323
01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:30.720
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1324
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:34.479
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,

1325
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:38.159
NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

1326
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:42.840
public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

1327
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:47.880
if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

1328
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.920
at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

1329
01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:54.920
you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

1330
01:29:55.840 --> 01:30:00.880
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1331
01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:03.479
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1332
01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:06.720
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1333
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:09.199
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1334
01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:12.199
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1335
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:15.479
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1343
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:39.159
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1344
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:42.399
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1345
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1351
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1352
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.399
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1353
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.319
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1354
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:13.520
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