Aug. 29, 2025

9-Foot Monster in the Holler | Missouri

9-Foot Monster in the Holler | Missouri
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What happens when a Missouri man buys land in the foothills — only to discover he isn’t alone out there? In this chilling episode, we sit down with David, who shares a lifetime of encounters stretching from Delaware to Florida to the backwoods of St. Francois County, Missouri.



From barefoot tracks in the snow outside his childhood home… to 18-inch prints at 12 Mile Creek… to a terrifying night in 2017 when a massive Sasquatch pressed against his shed, stole eggs, and left him frozen with fear — David recounts the moments that changed his life forever. You’ll hear about tree knocks, chest-shaking howls, infrasound growls, and the night he locked eyes with a towering 9-foot creature standing in the fork of an oak tree.



More than just a sighting, this is a raw and violent firsthand account of what happens when the shadows of Missouri’s forests come alive.

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You're listening in Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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Tonight's story doesn't begin on a mountain trail or quite campsite.

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Begins in the foothills of Missouri, where a man thought

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he'd finally found peace on a patch of wooded land.

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But when the.

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Crickets stopped, the forest fell silent, and something massive began

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to move closer, David realized he wasn't alone. David's journey

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with the unknown has spanned decades, but one night, he

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faced the reality that the legends were real. To find

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out more about David's story, stay with us, all right,

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Big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to

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David today. David is an individual from down in Missouri,

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and he's had some really interesting things happen over the

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last few years. So I've invited him onto the show

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to share what he's been experiencing. Welcome to the show, David,

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How are you, Hey?

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I'm doing great. How about yourself?

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Hey, we're doing good. We were just talking about how

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the weather's starting to get a little bit nicer here

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in the Midwest, that corn sweat is cleared out out hopefully,

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and and things are getting a little bit cooler.

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So this weekend they're calling they're calling for that corn

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sweat be coming back this weekend.

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Oh it's back, all right, Well we'll see.

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At least for days. As far as what I heard.

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Oh man. Yeah, people not in the Midwest have no

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idea what we're talking about, but you guys can look

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it up. It gets pretty wild. So yeah, David, let's

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let's make the best of our our time today. Uh.

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And you know, feel free to to take us back

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to when this whole interest and bigfoot started for you.

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How about we start there?

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Okay, okay, So, uh, that would be back when I

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was about seven years old in Dover, Delaware.

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It was a snowy day, so there was snow out

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on the ground.

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Me and my brother, who was older than I am,

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was outside in the snow and we came around to

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the front yard and there were footprints in the snow

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and they were barefoot footprints.

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And at that time, seven years.

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Old, you know, I didn't know what a bigfoot was,

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didn't know what sasquatch was, We didn't know anything, and

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so we freaked out and started screaming, and my dad

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came outside and asked what the commotion was about, and

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we said, well, there's these tracks right here, and they were,

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as far as I can remember, they were only twenty

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feet from the front porch and they were going parallel

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with the porch. So if there's a sidewalk up under

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the snow that goes towards the road directly from the

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porch screen door, so it was going to cross sat walkway,

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but you couldn't see the walkway because of the snow.

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But the tracks were.

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Going, and my father came over there and looked, and

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he followed the tracks to a fence that we had,

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which was an electric fence because we had goats. We

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were living on a small farm. So the track I

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don't remember if it was left or right. It was

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too long ago, but I remember seeing one track on

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one side of the fence, and then the next track

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was on the other side of the fence, and the.

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Trackway continued through the woods.

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And it was at that point right there that my

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father told us to get in the house.

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And so that's what we did. We got in the house.

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I don't know what he did. I don't remember what

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he did. And so that, like.

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As I got older, that triggered that experience triggered my

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interest in crypto stuff.

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What year in Delaware was that?

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Oh, let's see, I was born in seventy one, so

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seventy let's say I was seven years old seventy eight, Yeah,

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somewhere in there. And another thing growing up, they used

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our parents used to tell us be home before dark

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or the dusk man will get you. And at the time,

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I didn't know what the heck that was, you know,

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but that refers to Bigfoot or a sasquatch. And I

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didn't live in the city of Deverar, Delaware. I lived

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out in the country away.

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I think it was Kingdom Kingdom County might.

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Have been that. I really don't remember this this county.

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It was somewhere over there, but it was out in

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the country. It wasn't real far from Dover, but it

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was out in the country and it was all wood

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It was.

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All wooded land, like heck man.

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Behind our house, we had like a huge garden, probably

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five acre garden.

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Behind that was a canal.

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That went up from the back of our property, went

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up and made a tea, went left and right and

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it was just all woods back up in there.

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Mhmm. Yeah.

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How how big were the tracks approximately do you think.

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I say, we're way bigger than my father's with Prince

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I would this would only be a guess, but they look.

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If I had to, I don't even I.

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Don't even know how to answer that, because you know,

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it's been so long ago. I remember I see the

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picture in my head of the tracks in the snow

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and how long they were, I don't know, sixteen inches

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if I had to guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, there were

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big tracks. And like I said, they were barefoot and

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they were deep in the snow and you could see

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the toe. I remember seeing the toe, all the toes.

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The snow was all compact, so you know, it wasn't

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like a fluffy snow where if you try to you'll

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see it wasn't that much snow on the ground to

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begin with, probably two or three inches at that time.

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And I don't remember what.

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I don't remember if it was November, December, January, or February.

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Just remember it was cold outside when we were playing

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in the snow.

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And we found them tracks in the front yard. Called

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our father. He immediately told us.

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Once he made it to the fence line and seeing

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the tracks, one stepped over the fence the fence.

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Was gosh, five foot tall, perhaps.

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Maybe four foot tall, And yeah, it was just that

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just started it at all.

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Wow. One last question about that, okay, part of your

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story there. Did you guys ever have any situations with

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the goats on the farm or other animals where you

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know they would come up dead or or killed?

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Yeah, there was, I remember there was.

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I don't know the circumstances now, but I know our

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chickens used to come up missing.

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Quite a few goats came up missing.

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Yeah, and we also had a pony on our farm,

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but he was always kept inside at nighttime.

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He was never outside during nighttime.

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Okay, gotcha. Yeah, any for the for the those smaller ones,

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were the head's ever ripped off or or legs broken

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or anything like that.

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Oh, I don't know anything about that.

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I just recalled my father saying that something killed the

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chickens again, or something killed another goat. But he never

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said what it was, never told us what kind of

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condition was in or anything.

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And I never seen it.

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I just recall him mentioning it.

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So, yeah, that's that's very interesting. You definitely did have

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quite quite the start at a young age, but you know,

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feel free to continue where this took you in your

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life having this experience.

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Yeah, So my father, he was in the military. He

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was a civilian employee for the military, and he worked

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on classified stuff. And in nineteen seventy nine he got

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transferred to Homestead, Florida. He put in a bid for Anchorage,

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Alaska or Homestead, Florida. Well, he ended up went in

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the bid for the Homestead, Florida job, and that put

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us right at the very end, close to where the

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Everglades are and all that, and we lived there. I

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never had any experiences down there, but when we moved

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up to Northern Florida due to the violence down in

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that area of South Florida.

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In nineteen eighty six.

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So from seventy nine to nineteen eighty six we lived

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in South Florida, and then we moved to Northern Florida.

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In nineteen eighty six.

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All the area in this little town I lived in,

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which was in.

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Clay County, Florida.

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I won't get the name of the town, but I'll

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tell you the county.

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It was all wooded.

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There was several lakes around the area, all wooded though

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it was out in the country again, and there were

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several occasions.

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When I used to ride, I had a dirt bike.

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I used to ride the trails with my friends and

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to avoid taking the road so we didn't get in

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trouble with the police.

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We used to take the trails through the woods.

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To go to the store, which was, I don't know,

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a couple miles away. But there were several occasions I

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never seen anything but the hair on the back of

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my neck would stand up on several occasions riding through

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these trails, and everyone were the trails weren't around any houses,

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they were just you know, through the woods, and so

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I remember that, and then it wasn't until I moved

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to Missouri that I had my encounters. I moved to

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Missouri in two thousand and eight with a job transfer

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from Florida, and I lived out close to Springfield, Missouri.

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But it wasn't until I get over.

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The Saint Francis County that I started having these experiences.

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And so that was back in two thousand and eight.

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So I lived on the west side of Missouri until

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let's see, it was twenty twelve, and then I moved

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into Madison County, which is by Fredericktown. There is Cherokee

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Pass which is close to twelve Mile Creek where I

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had another experience. Twelve Mile Creek is borderlines mark tween

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Poors and it's in Cherokee Pass and so me and

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my girlfriend at the time were just exploring the creek.

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There was like a sandbar in the middle of the

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creek that didn't have water, and the water ran on

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both sides of the sandbar, and there was a little

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water in the hall where you could go swimming and whatnot.

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And there wasn't nobody else out there. It was out

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in the middle of nowhere. Her family owned acreage farther

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down the river, but we weren't anywhere close to that.

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But it's out in the middle of nowhere. And we

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found footprints going across the sandbar, and I remember those

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Those were eighteen inches long and you could clearly see

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the toe on print everything.

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It looked like it was dragging.

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Something along beside it because there was like a gouge

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mark and sandy gravel a pebbles. Man that was that

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made the hair on my back of my next stand

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up too. And that was out of twelve Mile Creek

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in Cherokee Pass right below.

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I don't know if it's if that's part of Madison

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County or not. Are you familiar with that area?

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You know, I've talked to a few people from down

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in southern Missouri. I haven't visited visited it yet myself, though.

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Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, So I lived there until let's see, well,

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I bought property while I was still living in Madison

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County and up here in Saint Francis County where I'm

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currently living now. And at the time when I bought

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the property where I'm at, it was all wooded except

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for the front front area where the road is.

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It was kind of.

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Uh, just like mossy grass, didn't get a lot of

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sun type soil. But when I bought the property, I

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used to camp in my neighbor's lot behind me, in

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his driveway, and I had a van and the van

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was set up like a camper van. So I used

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to camp there on the weekends while I cleaned my lug.

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And I used to find bare footprints coming, you know,

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coming from the road up through my property. And at

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the time, it didn't even dawn on me, you know,

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bigfoot sasquatch or nothing. I was just like, well, who

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the hook would be out here walking through my yard barefoot,

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you know, and.

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One evening.

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When I was, you know, inside that van camping or

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getting ready to get to sleep, there was I heard.

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Something in the bushes.

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And it sounded like a grun or something, and I

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immediately got up and went outside.

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I thought maybe it.

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Was like a dog or something, but I never did

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see anything. And then so I cleared out my property.

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I moved to.

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Camper onto my property, and by twenty seventeen I was

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living in that camper on my property.

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It was a little.

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Shastna I think it was sixteen foot long, and at

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the time.

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As I was working in the same general.

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Area where I was living, so it was pretty convenient

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for me, and I lived off grade. I had a generator,

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I had solar panels. I was roughing it. I never

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lived like that like that in my life, and so anyway,

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i'd moved out there in twenty seventeen.

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It was I.

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Moved out in January, so I was partially through winter,

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and then when spring came along, I had my generator going.

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It was April the twelfth.

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And it's kind of hard to talk about really because

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I was really freaked out. But so I was in

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my camper you know, it was a nighttime. It was

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a calm night. I had my head leaned against the

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window of the camper, just listening to everything, and I

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shut my generator off. I had a fob that would

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shut my generator off or started, and I shut it

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off getting ready for bed, and I was just listening

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to the crickets and everything, you know, all the four

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stuff I could finally hear with the generator off. And

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then I don't know, it was probably ten or fifteen

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minutes went past, just listening, and all that stuff just

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stopped all at once, and I couldn't hear nothing.

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It was like somebody turned the light switch.

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And I was like, what the heck's going on? You know,

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So I walked out to my front. I had it

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like a wood deck out there that I built in

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front of my camper. And I walked out and I

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stood around. I couldn't hear no crickets. I couldn't hear

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no frogs. I couldn't hear nothing. And I freaked out

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and I went inside, locked the door, and I laid

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in bed, and I'm getting ready for bed, and then

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I heard some rustling through the woods, because there's woods

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right next to my property. Here on both sides of

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my property there's woods and behind me there's woods. And

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I heard some rustling and then I heard this loud

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crack on a tree, just like somebody took a baseball

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back or something really hard and smacked a tree. Because

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it was like, you know, it made a real solid

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sound like that, and I was like, in my head,

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I was like, what the f you know, And.

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It was like it was like a light switch in.

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My head came on and it was like, dude, you

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just heard a tree knock.

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And then that's when the panics set in.

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Because you know, at the time, I never really experienced personally.

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And so then after the tree knock, I could hear

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metal crinkling. And this was a couple It was probably

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about forty five yards away.

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I had a metal shed over there.

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Eventually I figured out that it was something pressing against

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It sounded like somebody pressed against the metal shed because

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you could hear the metal crinkle in. And then I

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heard some more rustling around and I felt this. It

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was like a vibration in my chest. I could feel

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the vibration in my chest. My cat was freaking out,

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she was hissing, she was up in the window hissing,

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and it was a real bad smell. I couldn't even

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describe the smell. It just smelled really bad.

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And I felt petrified.

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I've never been I've never in my life been that

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scared and terrified. I was frozen with fear in my bed.

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I couldn't move, and at the time I had a

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cold and I had to cough, and I ended up

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putting a pillow over my face and coughing into the

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pit of pillow as lightly as I could, because I

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felt in my mind that this thing was coming.

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Closer to me, and.

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My cat kept hissing and whatnot, and then nothing really

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came over and disturbed me.

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But it felt like it, you know, I could feel fear.

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I was terrified, petrified, and eventually, just give me a second, dude,

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like it happened yesterday thinking about it.

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So eventually.

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I could hear this thing walking away through the gravel,

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and it sounded like it was dragging something behind it

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or dragging something.

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And then it let out this.

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It sounded like a whoop, but it was more like

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a screaming whoop.

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It was loud. I could feel it feel it in

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my chest, and.

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So I don't know, thirty seconds or so went by

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after that, and it was like somebody flipped the light

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switch and the crickets came back, the frogs came back,

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and the forest was back to normal. And I didn't

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go right to sleep. I was trying to rationalize in

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my mind what was what was going on, you know, because.

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You know, I've seen TV shows about Bigfoot.

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And I never thought for a moment that that would

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ever happen to me. You know, I never thought that

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I would experience anything like that.

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And the very next day.

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Before work, I got up and I walked over next

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door and I took pictures of stuff, and there was

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damage to the shed. It looked like somebody put their

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hand on the shed and their weight pushed it in.

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There was a crate of eggs that was bad that

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I had sitting over there. It looked like somebody stuck

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their hands straight into the crate of eggs, and you know,

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it was eating the eggs that was in there. I

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didn't see any tracks in the gravel because the gravel

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was like three quarter inch tight gravel. But in the road,

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in the road man, there was there was a huge footprint.

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I took a picture of it. I put down a

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tape measure, put my foot beside it. And this footprint

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was probably I don't know, forty between forty and sixty

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yards from my camper in the middle of the gravel road,

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which was a compressed gravel road, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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I couldn't even if I tried to stomp up and

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down a way about t if I try to stump

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up and down in the road, which I was trying

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to do a little bit away from this print, and

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I couldn't even put in dentation in the road. And

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I only found one track in the road. The other track,

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which was the right leg or right foot, was on

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the other side of the road, close to the ditch.

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So that really freaked me out because you know, that

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showed me there was something heavy, you know, that stepped there,

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and it looked like a human footprint. It didn't look

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like a bear. It didn't look like a double step

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from a bear, because I've seen double step footprints from

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bears and from hunting and stuff. But yeah, I immediately

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freaked back out and started recalling the night before, and

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I went on bfr his website, and I ended up

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filing a report about my incident, and I had somebody

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by the name of Carter call me and I explained

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to him what happened. I emailed him all the pictures,

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the footprints that I found and whatnot, and told me

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about my story, and he assured me that I didn't

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have nothing to fear. But man, he wasn't there, you know.

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So so that was my initial experience, my first hardcore

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experience out here in northeast Saint Francis County, which borderlines

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Saint Genevieve County. And years following that, there was other

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experiences where I'd be out here, not in my camper,

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but I have a cabin now and it sits on

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my property. I don't even have that camper anymore. But

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there was times where I would hear screams at nighttime,

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you know, like ten o'clock, between ten o'clock and one am.

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Not all the time, but you would hear it off

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in the distance, and it sounded like a like a

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banchiere or something. It was just loud and you could

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hear it, you know, you could tell it was far off,

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but you could tell it wasn't like it wasn't a

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coyote at the pitch was too high and it was

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too drawn out to be a coyote.

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And then a few moments later you would hear another.

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Scream, but from a different direction, like something answered it,

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you know, And that always happened in the springtime, and

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then a fall around here. And all this area around

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here is wooded. It's all foothills and small mountains, and

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there's farms surrounding this area, a lot of livestock in

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this area, a lot of deer, you know what, a

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lot of turkeys, deer, foxes, squirrels, raccoons, you know, all

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the normal wildlife stuff. There's mountain lions out here, there's

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bears out here. Yeah, So that was I started noticing

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a pattern, you know, every spring and fall that I

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would hear tree knocks off in the distance, screams off

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in the distance. And then in twenty eighteen, I think

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of who might have been twenty nineteen. There's a Dollar

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General outside of where I lived, and or down the

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road from where I lived, and I used to drive

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up there before work, you know, get a snack or

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something for breakfast. And I had did all that and

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I was up at the counter and this woman that

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I knew, who was working there told me that some

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old man had come in there previous to my visit

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and said that he's seen a bigfoot on this certain road.

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And this certain road is two and a half blocks

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away from where I lived. And I was like what,

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and she was like, yeah, he was on his way

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to work and seen across the road onto this other road,

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which is just two and a half blocks away. And

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I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. But in my

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head I was starting to freak out from my experience

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in twenty seventeen, so I was like, all right, cool,

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thanks for that info, and then I went on about

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my day, went to work, got off work, thinking about

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it all throughout the day.

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You know, this thing.

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At the time, I was thinking, you know, if this

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is what this man seen, and it was.

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It was also in April at this time. It was.

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I want to say it was April fourth, I think.

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But anyway, my day went on and I got home

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and I had this bright idea that I would do

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a couple of tree knocks to see if I could

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get any response. And it was probably about four or

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five in the afternoon, and I did a couple of

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tree knocks and nothing happened. And then I said, well,

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let's wait till it gets darker, like dusk, just about sunset,

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where you can't see the sun over the foothills anymore.

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And then I I chicken myself out.

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I didn't do it.

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And then I said, well, it's almost dark, you better

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do it. And so I got up and I had

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a steak.

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That you would hammer in the ground.

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We were gonna steak out, you know, to build a

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house or whatever left over befo when I built my cabin,

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and I picked that up. It was just about dark,

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and I smacked a tree twice. It was pretty loud,

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and I didn't hear nothing, and I didn't hear no response,

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and so I sat back down on the steps and

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it was damned near dark, and so I'll give it

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one more try, and I get up and I smacked

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on this tree twice, man in good solid hits. No

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more than I could turn around and face the direction.

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I could hear something running towards me. And it was big,

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and it was moving the limbs out of its way,

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because there wasn't no like leaves or anything on the

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trees yet, so it's just a bare limbs. But you

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could hear the limbs of the trees, you know, the

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small bushes and whatnot whipping off of this thing. You

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could hear, you know, and you could you could hear

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the footsteps coming at you. Now, just for context, I

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live on one ridge and there's a holler.

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I don't know if you're familiar with what a holler is.

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I am, but do you mind describing it? There's some

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listeners that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I live on one bridge and

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then the property in front of me is kind of level,

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but then it dips down real sharp in the back,

473
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.920
and it goes down into this like a valley, and

474
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.400
then it comes up real sharp on the other side,

475
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.920
and there's another ridge. So that valley in between that

476
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:18.639
we call that the holler basically. And so this thing

477
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:23.519
was on the next ridge running towards me, So it

478
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.159
had to run down that holler, which is really steep

479
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:31.800
and rocky. And then there's some bluffs over there, And

480
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.960
if you're not familiar what bluffs are, they're just rock

481
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:41.360
croppings that are jagged and part of the landscape and whatnot.

482
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:48.960
And anyhow, this thing ran up stop just inside the

483
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:54.599
tree line. Before I could even turn around and drop

484
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.320
that steak, I had in my hand, and I was

485
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.159
freaking out my head. Man. I had a flashlight with

486
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.559
me too, and I was panning this flashlight and I

487
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.320
couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. I couldn't see it,

488
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.840
and I couldn't hear nothing. And then I heard this.

489
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.000
Oh it was awful, dude. It was like it was

490
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:23.360
kind of like a growl, but it was like it

491
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.639
felt like it had vibration to it, and if I

492
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.840
had it almost sounded like, you know how like a

493
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.320
tiger gives that growl.

494
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:38.599
You ever heard that?

495
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.039
Yeah, kind of, it's like really deep and rumby.

496
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.119
Yeah, really deep and rumbley.

497
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:48.719
But I could feel it in my body and I

498
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.760
still couldn't see this thing, whatever it was. And then

499
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.440
when it made that noise, I wasn't even shining my

500
00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.559
light where I heard the noise. So I panned to

501
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:03.480
the left where I heard the noise, and I seen

502
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:09.480
the eye shine I seen. This thing was so freaking huge, dude. Okay,

503
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.719
there's this tree that's across the street from my house,

504
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.599
and it's on the slope part, not right before the

505
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.199
drop off where it drops off into the holler, but

506
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:21.559
it's like right before that.

507
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.239
But this tree goes.

508
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.480
Up and two branches fork out, forming like a y,

509
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.159
and this thing's head was in between that why, But

510
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:33.880
this tree was big.

511
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.199
It was probably I don't know.

512
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.280
Three foot across, you know, in diameter, very pretty good

513
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.039
sized oak tree. But anyway, this thing was so huge

514
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.760
that this tree couldn't even hide it. Like I seen

515
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:56.679
the left leg, the left tip, massive left shoulder area,

516
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:00.960
massive arms.

517
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.639
I could see the I could see some of the pace,

518
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:07.679
but not all of it.

519
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.920
Like I said, the eyes were in the middle of

520
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:14.159
this y, and I could see the top of the skull,

521
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:16.800
and it was in this home shape.

522
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:21.760
But this thing was massive, dude, And I said out aloud,

523
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.079
I said, oh, there you are.

524
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.920
And then well then seconds, man, it just the eyeshine

525
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.960
went away, and I could hear just moving.

526
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:37.920
Off away from me. But I thought for sure that.

527
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.519
Because at one point when I was you know, it's

528
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.639
like time stands still when you see stuff like this, you.

529
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.079
Know, And.

530
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.639
I was probably only ten foot away from my front door, man,

531
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:59.079
and this thing was probably seventy yards away. But in

532
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.039
my mind, I'm trying to rationalize how quick it got

533
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.920
from the other ridge to my ridge. It had to

534
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.360
go down this hot, you know, down into the holler,

535
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:14.199
up to my side, and get to where it was

536
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:18.159
at you know, was further away from if it just

537
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:22.760
went straight, you know, if it had to come, you know,

538
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:26.119
straight at me, it would have been way closer.

539
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:30.840
But it didn't. It like it had to have gone

540
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.000
like at an angle, you know what I'm saying.

541
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:37.039
Down the holler, up to the side where my ridge is,

542
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.599
and then behind this tree. Because the tree was way

543
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.800
far to the left where I was. I wasn't even

544
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.920
looking over there because I was thinking it was going

545
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.079
to come. I thought it was coming straight at me,

546
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:54.119
is what I thought. But anyway, I thought in my

547
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.199
head while I was looking at this thing, man, from

548
00:38:58.239 --> 00:38:59.960
how quick that thing made it over.

549
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:01.320
It, I wouldn't be able to make it to my

550
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:01.880
front door.

551
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.519
And it was only ten feet It's only ten feet

552
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:09.599
away from where I smacked on this tree. And I

553
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.719
just stood there staring at it. But yeah, I could

554
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.159
see its left calf muscle. I could see it was

555
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:23.119
all hairy, it was black. It was just massive, and

556
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.760
this tree was big. And I can take a picture

557
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.559
and send it to you. Man, it just couldn't hide

558
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.039
behind this tree. I didn't see the right part because

559
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.159
of the angle I was standing, but I sure did

560
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.840
see the whole left side of it, the eyes, and

561
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.719
I couldn't see the lips, but I've seen the coon head.

562
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:44.719
It was just.

563
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.519
Massive, man, And I freaked out, and I ended up

564
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.400
calling that guy Carter, and I was telling him about

565
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.239
it from the BFRO. He said, Oh, man, you ain't

566
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.039
got nothing to worry about it. If it wanted to

567
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.679
get you, would have got you.

568
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.800
And how did that make you feel?

569
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:06.519
It?

570
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:12.000
I'll tell you, man, Yeah, you know, if you never

571
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.760
experience it for yourself, if you never.

572
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.280
It was kind of like a relief.

573
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.679
But it wasn't you know, because you hear stories about

574
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.880
sightings out west, how they're aggressive or out in the Everglades,

575
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.320
how the skunk cates are aggressive and whatnot. But you

576
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:37.159
just never know, you know, it could be they might

577
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.039
be having a bad day and take it out on you,

578
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.360
you know what I'm saying. So you really don't know,

579
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:50.360
And so yeah, I just I'm still cautious, you know,

580
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.239
Like I still hear and it's always in the springtime

581
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:03.639
between like the last week of February till June. The

582
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:08.800
first week in June, I still hear screams like this year, man,

583
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:15.360
I heard one of my cats was fighting with something

584
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.880
down in that holler across the street from me.

585
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:25.440
And this was back in May, and it was dark.

586
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.639
You know, and I didn't think, you know, I'm just

587
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.360
out there with a flashlight looking for my cat. And

588
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:34.920
so I'm hollering back there, you know, for my cat.

589
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:41.679
I can see the cat across the holler going up,

590
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.800
you know where the it starts going uphill, you know,

591
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.079
it's a steep uphill thing, and I can see.

592
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.000
My cat over there at the very bottom of it.

593
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.320
He's I don't know what he's got. He's got something.

594
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:57.719
He's killing something over there, you know.

595
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.920
And then off to my left, I hear tree knock,

596
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:05.519
and that immediately got my attention.

597
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.280
And then no sooner than I heard the first one.

598
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.519
A little bit up from where I heard that first one,

599
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:18.159
on the left, I heard another one, and I was like,

600
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.320
in my head, I was like, if this, I'm going home,

601
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.079
and I walked back to the I walked back to

602
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.320
my yard, and from where I heard it, you know,

603
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:33.559
it sounded close, and you know, I live at a

604
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:34.199
dead end.

605
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.840
Road, so it's like a culver sack down here.

606
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:48.280
And the road hack gets probably only five wonder you heard,

607
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:52.440
it's long into the main road, and then across the

608
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.800
street from that is Saint Jennevie's County and it's all wooded,

609
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.480
but it's all wooded around me here too, so but

610
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.679
it's really wooded back in there.

611
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.360
And then it turns into farmland the farther back you

612
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:06.079
get in there.

613
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.679
But yeah, it sounded like they was in right on

614
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:17.360
the other side of that street, because I've seen signs.

615
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:22.039
Over there, you know, like I don't know if you want.

616
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:27.559
To call them tree markers or I don't know what

617
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:28.199
you'd call them.

618
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.920
They're just they're oddly plays tree limbs, I'll just say that.

619
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:35.719
And they're big tree limbs, and they're not really tree

620
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.039
limbs there like whole trees, you know. I'm saying, they're

621
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:46.239
just huge. But I don't know until I see a

622
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:47.039
big foot.

623
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:47.800
Making something like that.

624
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.320
I can't really say a bigfoot made something like that.

625
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.400
I can only theioralize, you know.

626
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:55.719
But yeah, that's uh.

627
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.679
I agree with you. It's it's like it would be

628
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.960
nice if we could actually see one do that, because

629
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.719
I've been in areas like you're talking about, and yeah,

630
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.280
you see the stuff, but man, it would be cool

631
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.559
to actually see them make like a big ax out

632
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.840
of two whole trees or you know, all that jazz.

633
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.719
But yeah, it's it's weird stuff there.

634
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:25.159
Yeah, and that's close to my house. Well, that's only

635
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.639
a block away, you know, where I found those. And

636
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:34.039
then on the other side of this lake where I'm at,

637
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.519
I found ones over there in the woods.

638
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.679
But they're different. They're not the same as the ones

639
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.239
over here. They're different.

640
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:51.880
They're smaller, they're not nearly as large. But like I said,

641
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.960
until I see one make one, I can't really say

642
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.480
that's what made it, you know, because man could have

643
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:58.440
did it somehow.

644
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:02.320
Yeah.

645
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.159
Yeah, this whole area around here, I got to look

646
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:12.039
and researching, and this whole area is just like report

647
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.159
after report of bigfoot sightings.

648
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:17.079
Crump County.

649
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:24.519
Down in Cape Girardo. It was shortly after I had

650
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:29.320
my twenty seventeen experience. There was a farmer found a

651
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:34.639
trackway of twenty two inch footprints.

652
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:34.679
And that was a.

653
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.880
I don't remember how far it went on his farm,

654
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:46.840
but I remember hearing about it on the news. And

655
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:53.559
that's only like an hour from here south Cape Girardo

656
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:59.800
and yeah, so there's been reports all throughout this area.

657
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.039
And another thing I've noticed too is.

658
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.360
Since I had twenty seventeen encounter, I installed security cameras.

659
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:16.960
You know, they got the infrared and whatnot, and I

660
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:23.559
since I upgraded to four K, but I noticed they

661
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:30.199
don't come around the house with those cameras up. At

662
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.400
least I haven't heard them approach my house like I

663
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.400
used to hear them approach when I was before I

664
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.440
had the cameras and whatnot. So I don't know if

665
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:47.159
they're able to see infrared or not. I've heard rumors

666
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.559
that they can, but it's just kind of odd that

667
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:54.639
since I put them cameras up, they just I don't

668
00:46:54.679 --> 00:47:01.239
hear the the I don't older present. I'll just put

669
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.719
it that way. You can tell when something's around you,

670
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:12.760
you know, your gut instincts or you know, just has

671
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.039
Spidey sense or whatever you wanted, sixth sense.

672
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.039
I don't know what it would be called, right, you know.

673
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:21.400
What I'm saying. He can just tell something, right, you

674
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.960
know that's around you. But I haven't felt that since

675
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:26.400
I had put them cameras in.

676
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:33.280
Okay, are you using those cameras more as a deterrent.

677
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:38.719
Then hmm, no, I put them up trying to catch

678
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.960
evidence of them because you know, I would tell my

679
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:49.039
neighbors and they looked at me like I was stupid

680
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:53.239
and crazy, and then I felt stupid and crazy per

681
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.679
toning them. You know, but it happened to me. You know,

682
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:02.639
I can't deny what happened to me. You know it happened.

683
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.400
You know, it petrified me in a sense. And then

684
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.840
and then Carter, he tries to convince me it's okay,

685
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:16.239
there's no reason to be scared. But like I told him,

686
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:17.880
I was like, man, he wasn't there.

687
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:23.280
You know what I'm saying. You weren't there to feel

688
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:28.039
what I felt. You know. Yeah, I'm getting better. I'm

689
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:29.079
getting a little better.

690
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:36.000
Though. I got a side by side and I won't

691
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.960
I'll put it this way. I don't drive it at

692
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:41.519
night through the trails like.

693
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:47.519
I used to, since I experience in twenty seventeen and.

694
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:53.760
In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I.

695
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:54.760
I don't drive it through the woods. That's all I

696
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:57.280
can say. At nighttime unless I got.

697
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.239
Somebody with me, and I even got a you know,

698
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.079
I got a thermal camera too that I can mount

699
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:08.119
to my side by side, and I can put it

700
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.960
up on a little tablet, you know, on a bigger

701
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.239
screen so I can see what's in front of you.

702
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.000
I still don't the I still don't do it by myself.

703
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:22.440
And I'm fifty four years old.

704
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:26.760
Man. It's kind of embarrassing in a way. But I

705
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.039
just know what I've been.

706
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:34.039
Through, you know what I'm saying, And yeah, it has

707
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:39.119
me on edge. Yeah, there's there's a part of me

708
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.360
where it's got me on edge because you really don't

709
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:48.119
know the intentions of these animals or half humans. This

710
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:53.239
thing kind of looked human. Just look hairy, you know,

711
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.519
and and big.

712
00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:55.960
You know.

713
00:49:56.159 --> 00:50:03.760
So you got the Bible talks about giants. I see

714
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.400
a lot of these TV shows they want to classify

715
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:07.519
it as a primate.

716
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:09.079
I don't think it's a prime aid.

717
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.199
I think it's more human than a primate.

718
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:22.039
It's just hairy and yeah. So wow, So you really

719
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.159
don't know what their intentions are, you know what I'm saying, a.

720
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.880
Few things to comment on. So, Okay, Carter's a good guy.

721
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.920
I've talked to him before, I've interviewed him. He is

722
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:34.360
a good guy. I think, you know, I know why

723
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.599
He said that he was trying to, you know, make

724
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.119
you feel better, which is great, you know, but you

725
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:42.440
know what happened, right, I mean you lived it, so.

726
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.559
Yeah, I felt it. Man, I built the beer.

727
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:53.199
And it's it's almost like like they're growling with ultrasound or.

728
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:54.880
What is it called the infrasound.

729
00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:00.159
Yeah, infrasound, Yeah, like a tiger does. Because you I

730
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.159
could feel that in my rib cage. Man, you know

731
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:06.159
what I'm saying, even on twenty seventeen. It was just

732
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.320
like it wasn't even a growl. It was just like this.

733
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.880
I could barely hear it, but I felt it more

734
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.760
than I could hear it, you know what I'm saying.

735
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:21.760
And man, it just it, you know, because I was

736
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:24.719
moving into bed. And then when when I felt this, dude,

737
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.360
I was just like I didn't.

738
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:26.760
I was.

739
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:31.920
I was like a toothpit frozen in my bed. In

740
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.480
my stupid cat man. She kept going up to the

741
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.599
corner of the window and hissing, and I'm thinking, in

742
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.079
my head, come on, cat, don't do that. That thing

743
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:41.400
is going to come over here.

744
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:43.920
You know, That's what I was thinking in my head.

745
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:49.880
And at one point it did start approaching my camper,

746
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:54.719
but for some reason it stopped and went the other way.

747
00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:01.960
Thank god it did that. Yeah, I was pat That

748
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:04.679
was my first encounter, you know, personal encounter.

749
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.480
Yeah, it's just it's crazy to start at that point.

750
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:09.559
I mean, that's wild.

751
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.320
Yeah, because I didn't have nobody to call. There ain't

752
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:17.320
nobody around me. You know, my closest my closest neighbor

753
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:23.360
that was probably at their property was a mile away.

754
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.599
They're not going to hear me scream, you know what

755
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:31.920
I'm saying. Oh sure, So it was just me, my

756
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:36.760
cat and it man, what you know? Yeah, and then

757
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:38.719
that footprints.

758
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:43.639
Have you ever talked to your your neighbors and to

759
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.400
see if they've experienced weird stuff too?

760
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.719
Oh yeah, they yeah, they say they haven't seen nothing.

761
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.960
Matter of fact, they they called me crazy that I

762
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:55.679
even believe in something like that.

763
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.920
That's terrible, that's what they call it is terrible because

764
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.920
you know they I don't know why people are like that.

765
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:06.880
People are just like.

766
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:13.239
The but they can think whatever they want. You know,

767
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:18.880
I know what I experienced. I know the fear I felt.

768
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:22.199
I know what I've seen across the street from my

769
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:26.840
house and between that tree and I know what I

770
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:30.960
heard before I seen that, and it sounded big, you know,

771
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:32.559
and then't when I seen it.

772
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.480
You know, it was huge. This tree couldn't even hide it.

773
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.920
Man, I don't know what this thing was thinking, trying

774
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.039
to hide behind this tree, but it could. You know.

775
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.480
It's funny because to me, it's comical when I think

776
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.360
about it now, because obviously this thing was trying to

777
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.559
hide behind a tree, you know, but I guess it

778
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.880
thought I couldn't see it, but this tree was. It

779
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:06.320
was like a telephone pole. It'd be like a bigfoot

780
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.559
trying to hide behind the telephone pole. But the tree

781
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:13.360
is huge, you know, it's big around, but it's still

782
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.760
couldn't It wasn't wide enough to hide this big foot.

783
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:23.159
That's how big it was. And it was just mascular, dude.

784
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:29.199
It looked like if I if I, if I.

785
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.440
Try to put pinpoint anything that would come close, it

786
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:38.079
would be like putting hair on the Incredible Hulk and

787
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:42.000
making them really tall but that muscular, and then putting.

788
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:43.199
Hair on them.

789
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:47.480
That's how big it was. It was just huge, and

790
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.519
it didn't look like a gorilla. It wasn't built like

791
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:59.800
a gorilla. It looked like a hairy oversized, muscular human.

792
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.880
The way the body, the body and the hand the

793
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.960
hands look human. I didn't see any I couldn't see

794
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:11.639
any reflection of claws, you know, you know how like

795
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:15.800
bears sometimes at at the angle or claws a certain

796
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.039
way or something you could see like a little hint

797
00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:22.360
of purple or something because of the what do they called, uh,

798
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.639
you know how like if you trim your dog's nails

799
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:33.880
other quick or whatever. Oh sure, yeah, yeah, so yeah,

800
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.119
I just know what I experienced, and.

801
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.079
It was just terrifying.

802
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.400
Even though Carter says I have nothing to worry about,

803
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.119
I know, he's just trying to reinsure me, you know that,

804
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:50.760
So I don't try to move.

805
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:56.480
I'm I'm not gonna move or nothing, but right right in.

806
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:59.559
A way, if I look, if I look at it

807
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:05.800
as a open mind thing, I'm privileged to have experienced

808
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:10.079
what I have. But I'm damned at the same time,

809
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.280
you know, because I can't erase what happened to me.

810
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.440
You know, I can't erase his memories.

811
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.719
That's true. You're it's it's with you forever, and it's

812
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:25.280
it's forever affected you. Even though it sounds like you

813
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.880
are starting to get a handle on it. It definitely

814
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:34.119
has always affected you. Yeah, I have a few questions

815
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.039
about about what you saw, if that's all right.

816
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:38.920
Yeah, that's one.

817
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.519
So you mentioned it was the left side of it

818
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.519
and you saw the eyes. Do you remember did you

819
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.239
happen to see if it had any whites around the

820
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.480
pupils or if it was all just dark?

821
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.159
No? No, The only thing that I can see was

822
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:59.760
the eye shine, and the eye shine was white.

823
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:05.800
It looked like it looked like diamonds.

824
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:10.519
Man, the way it just reflected back at me. It

825
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:14.880
was white. It wasn't red. Now I have seen red

826
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:22.519
eyeshine in the woods before, but they weren't yellow.

827
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:23.760
They were white.

828
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:28.079
It was just white eyeshine reflecting back at me. And

829
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:33.679
it was bright white. It wasn't like a dull white.

830
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.559
If I had to guess and try to compare something

831
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.559
that's close to what I seen, it would be the

832
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:45.159
driveway reflectors that are white, or the white reflectors on

833
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.480
a police car. You know how it's got that diamond

834
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.119
type reflection to it.

835
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:53.880
That's what it was.

836
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:58.400
And then when I panned the flashlight up a little higher,

837
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:02.719
I could see the outline of the dumed head and

838
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:10.159
that was all furry. The left shoulder, which protruded out

839
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:14.159
from behind this tree a good two foot I could

840
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.519
see it's left.

841
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:22.000
There was no hair below its neck.

842
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.639
There was no hair there, and the hair didn't start

843
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:32.239
on its breastplate area until about midway down, so I

844
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:37.079
could see the muscular part of it's left, the chest muscle.

845
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:43.119
The arms were huge, man, they were. I couldn't even

846
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.840
guess how big around they were. They were just huge.

847
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:51.199
This thing was huge, man. And anyway, I went out

848
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:56.079
the next day and I measured this tree to where

849
00:58:56.119 --> 00:59:00.159
I seen approximately where I seen this eyeshine in between this,

850
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.559
you know, the two branches broke out left and right,

851
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:06.039
so it made like a y at the top of

852
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:13.639
this tree, and that measured nine feet so to the

853
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.079
you know where the two limbs split apart, It was

854
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.320
nine feet to that part. So the eyeshine was a

855
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.639
little bit above that, and then the head above that.

856
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.440
So I'm guessing nine and a half feet tall, and

857
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:32.960
plus the ground sloping right there from my advantage point,

858
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:38.079
you know, because I'm up higher. I'm on I'm on

859
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.079
just about on top of this ridge right here, so

860
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:46.599
it's probably a good five six foot drop and elevation

861
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.079
to where this tree is from my property, and then

862
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:54.400
it drops off directly behind that. It drops off going

863
00:59:54.480 --> 01:00:00.559
into the holler. And this thing was tall, was big,

864
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.119
it was muscular, and it was hairy, and it wasn't

865
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.920
all hairy like like I said, up under its neck

866
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.599
and part of his chest was not hairy. It was

867
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:19.079
like a not like a purplish color, but like it

868
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:23.760
was almost purple, but kind of like a dark grayish purple.

869
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.159
In his hands weren't hairy either. They were the same

870
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:33.039
color as that part of his chest. The back of

871
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:37.280
his hands wasn't hairy. They just looked like large human hands.

872
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.760
But they were real long. His fingers were really long, Okay,

873
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:48.000
I remember that. And I didn't really get a good glimpse.

874
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:48.719
At his thumb.

875
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:53.079
Because I was just like pinning all over the place,

876
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:56.360
you know, trying to keep my flashlight on this thing

877
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:58.719
and whatnot.

878
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:02.719
But yeah, it was huge, man, I.

879
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:07.960
Just made a connection in my head. So you said,

880
01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:11.840
were you saying the skin or the hair was purplish?

881
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:17.559
The skin really, yeah it was. It was like a

882
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:23.599
dark purplish gray color. And the fur was black, it

883
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:27.440
was jet black. But the skin, the skin looked like

884
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:32.800
a like a dull, deep dark purplish gray color. And

885
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:35.920
it was the same way for the back of his hands,

886
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.920
and I couldn't see the front, you know, the palm.

887
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:40.840
I couldn't see the palm of his hand, so I

888
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:45.639
don't know what color that was, sure, But the left

889
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:50.880
arm went below his knee on the left side, and

890
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.280
I couldn't see his right arm. I couldn't see any

891
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:56.719
part of his right side of his body because the

892
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.920
angle that I was standing at the tree was covered

893
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:01.679
that portion, you know what I'm saying.

894
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.840
And yeah, it was just huge.

895
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.760
And this whole time that I'm looking at this thing,

896
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.119
you know, I'm thinking, you know, the front doors right

897
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:16.000
there is just tend to feet away. But then I

898
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.519
was I was actually having an argument in my head

899
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:25.400
because as quick as this, you know, the ridge across

900
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:27.719
where this holler is, it's not close.

901
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.400
It's by god, no means close.

902
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.920
It's probably two blocks away to the next ridge. You know,

903
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:39.079
it's a big span, but it goes down into those holler,

904
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.119
and it made it from over there to this tree

905
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:51.280
within seconds, man, within seconds. And if I had to

906
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.480
if I had to guess with seconds, I'm talking twelve

907
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:59.039
seconds maybe, Oh wow, Yeah, it.

908
01:02:58.920 --> 01:02:59.599
Was quick, dude.

909
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.039
You could hear the limbs because there wasn't no leaves

910
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:06.239
on the trees yet. All those limbs were bare, and

911
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.280
you could you know, how like if you put like

912
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:12.639
a vinyl jacket on and you run through the woods,

913
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:15.039
you can hear that whipping sound coming off the limbs.

914
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:16.800
That's what it sounded like.

915
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:18.320
And it was coming.

916
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.000
I thought it was coming right. I thought it was

917
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:25.239
coming directly at me. So I had my flashlight directly ahead.

918
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.880
It was all woods. I couldn't really see in there,

919
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.239
but for security, you know, in your head, you got

920
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:31.960
a flashlight.

921
01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:37.639
Yeah, exactly, I'm saying you might. You might find this interesting.

922
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.920
I So I was an Oregon a month ago at

923
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:46.840
a festival and a woman told me her account about

924
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:53.079
how just outside of Oakridge, an Oregon her RV camper

925
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.199
had been attacked. And but the weird thing is that

926
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.559
applies to this account is that her son had reported

927
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:07.280
seeing what he called a purple bigfoot. And after hearing

928
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:11.280
what you've said now, it makes me wonder if what

929
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.440
he saw was the hair was purple, or maybe he

930
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:19.239
saw one with skin that looked purplish gray like you did.

931
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.199
So I need to do some follow.

932
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.559
Up on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

933
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.079
The fur was black on what I've seen, and the

934
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.079
skin was it was like a you could tell it

935
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.920
was purple, but it looked great too at the same time.

936
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:38.559
Like purple and gray mixed together. I don't know how

937
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:40.159
to explain it other than that.

938
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.079
Absolutely. Another thing that I wanted to bring up, and

939
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.559
I've just found this in my looking into your area

940
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:53.880
is there's also there's an interesting other legend of a

941
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:58.599
local creature in your county called the Catman of dough

942
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.679
Run And uh, oh really have you ever heard of

943
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:04.280
this one?

944
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:04.840
No?

945
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.920
Okay, So it's interesting because it's described as humanoid and

946
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:14.920
it will attack cars at night. It's blamed for livestock

947
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:19.000
being killed. And this goes back all the way to

948
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:22.880
the nineteen thirties and the forties, so they usually would

949
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:28.239
be seen near a bridge and dough Run. But just

950
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:32.079
you know, kind of an interesting catman. Yeah, it's called

951
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:34.320
the catman kind of of how it looks like but

952
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:41.199
in the face area, but the things it's doing kind

953
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:43.840
of I don't know. That kind of sounds like it

954
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:46.880
could be bigfoot behavior in a little bit, but I

955
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:49.880
don't know. Just another interesting thing about your area.

956
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:53.639
Yeah, I've never heard about that, Okay, I know, like

957
01:05:53.840 --> 01:06:00.320
the momo and they're referring to Bigfoot with the momo, right, Yeah,

958
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:01.280
I've never heard.

959
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:04.960
Interesting. Have you ever talked to Miguel about this?

960
01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:07.320
No?

961
01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.079
I did. I do watch his videos, and.

962
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:16.360
I did send him an email, okay, And I told

963
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:20.400
him about my BFR report. Sure, and I told him

964
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.440
that I told him that there wasn't no need for

965
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:25.559
him to come out here. No, okay, I just wanted

966
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:28.760
to share. I just wanted to share my story with him.

967
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:36.920
Yeah, absolutely, But okay, cool, Wow, David, what what? Man?

968
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.960
Absolutely wild the things that you've gone through, And it

969
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:46.239
sounds like it is at least controllable with with the

970
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.360
cameras up. But it'd be interesting if you had an

971
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:54.840
area that is not your place you're living in, but

972
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:56.719
on the same property, and you could put the cameras

973
01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:00.519
over there and like put them towards I don't.

974
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:03.719
Know, oh, like where, like where I know they're traveling,

975
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:09.760
because like, like I've come up with a hypothesis is

976
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:18.199
that these things are migratory beings, okay.

977
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:17.639
And because.

978
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:26.400
I rarely hear them between the mid June in August

979
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:31.079
the only time I and then throughout the winter, I

980
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:33.960
never hear them throughout the winter, you know, screaming, and

981
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.559
I never hear tree knocks during the wintertime.

982
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:39.719
So you know, like I.

983
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:44.119
Said, I only have these had have had these experience

984
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:51.079
is between the end of February and the first week

985
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:58.360
of June or September when it starts cooling down, and

986
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:05.119
maybe the first we in November and then so that

987
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:09.400
led me to believe that they're migratory, being.

988
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:13.840
You know, oh yeah, especially in our art area of

989
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:17.239
the US, you know that Midwest. Uh, I'm pretty sure

990
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:24.159
they're migratory in Iowa for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well man, David,

991
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.439
it has been a real fun time talking to you,

992
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:30.840
and thank you for sharing your accounts. I mean, if

993
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.720
if things do continue to happen, please, you know, keep

994
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:37.239
me in mind and you can always reach out if

995
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:40.479
things continue to happen down there. But hopefully you know

996
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:42.119
you've got things under control now.

997
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.319
Yeah, I'm uh, I.

998
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.079
As much as I like the subject of Bigfoot, like

999
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:59.159
you know, I'm addicted to bigot Our Expedition Big Put,

1000
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:03.479
which is a newer show, sure, you know, as much

1001
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:11.640
as curious and uh, you know, I try to convince

1002
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:16.359
myself to go out and do what they do, and

1003
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:21.479
but when reality strikes, you know, I'm like, no, I

1004
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:29.560
just I can't do it, you know. But yeah, well,

1005
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:32.439
I appreciate you let me come on your show and

1006
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:39.079
share my experiences because it's good that people know that

1007
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:40.159
they're in this area.

1008
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:44.439
Oh. Absolutely, yeah, I agree one hundred percent, and and

1009
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:46.119
thank you so much for coming on. I do have

1010
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:49.119
one other question, but I'm going to ask you off air.

1011
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:50.600
But thank you again, David.

1012
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.479
Yeah, oh, you're welcome. Thank you, Jeremi.

1013
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:56.520
I just wanted to take a minute to say thank

1014
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.439
you for listening to this episode of the Big Society podcast.

1015
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:03.600
David's is an unforgettable encounter, not just because of the footprints,

1016
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:06.520
the grels, or the damage left behind, but because of

1017
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:11.119
how close it came to being something much, much more huge.

1018
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:13.680
Thanks to David for his courage and sharing these terrifying

1019
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:17.319
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