June 5, 2023
Alaska Bigfoot Encounters Unveiled: Exploring the Mysterious with Larry "Beans" Baxter
Welcome to another thrilling episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast with your host, Jeremiah Byron. In this captivating installment, we delve into the world of Larry "Beans" Baxter, a remarkable individual hailing from Alaska. Join us as we uncover...
Welcome to another thrilling episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast with your host, Jeremiah Byron. In this captivating installment, we delve into the world of Larry "Beans" Baxter, a remarkable individual hailing from Alaska. Join us as we uncover the enigmatic life of this military and law enforcement veteran turned unexplained phenomena investigator.
Enthralled by the allure of Alaska, Beans found solace and fascination in its untamed wilderness, ultimately making it his cherished home. Nestled amidst the breathtaking landscapes of the Last Frontier, Beans dedicated several years of his life to meticulously scrutinizing the mystifying realm of Bigfoot.
Prepare yourself for an enthralling tale as Beans regales us with his extraordinary Summit Lake investigation, a captivating follow-up to the riveting events chronicled in Bigfoot Society Episode 253. Immerse yourself in the mysteries that unfolded during his enthralling exploration, where truth and the unexplained converge.
But that's not all! Brace yourself as Beans shares some of the most astonishing encounters he has experienced while conducting extensive Bigfoot field research. From inexplicable phenomena to spine-tingling moments, he unveils a collection of truly bizarre and captivating tales that will leave you on the edge of your seat.
As if that wasn't enough, Beans divulges the riveting account of how he skillfully applied his law enforcement background to gather fingerprints from a Sasquatch handprint discovered on the back of the Area A cabin. Join us as we explore the intersection of his investigative prowess and the perplexing world of Sasquatch. Beans also shares new updates from Area A.
Lastly, we delve into the mysterious events that unfolded in Portlock, Alaska. Unravel the truth behind the enigma as we unearth the secrets lurking beneath the surface of this captivating Alaskan locale.
Keep in mind that throughout the episode, you may hear a gentle snoring sound intermittently. Rest assured, it's not an Electronic Voice Phenomenon (EVP); it's simply the comforting sound of Beans' faithful canine companion. Truly, a good dog adds an extra layer of charm to our riveting discussion.
Tune in to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast with Jeremiah Byron and discover the thrilling exploits and extraordinary insights of Larry "Beans" Baxter. Prepare to be captivated by tales that transcend the ordinary and venture into the realms of the extraordinary.
Resources:
Author of
Justice, Morale and Other Fairytales: Alaskan Cop Stories (affiliate link)
https://amzn.to/3MBA7nD
SQUATCH COP: Investigating and Documenting the Bigfoot Phenomenon (affiliate link)
https://amzn.to/45ygaXj
Abandoned: The History and Horror of Port Chatham, Alaska (affiliate link)
https://amzn.to/42bChQv
Documentary: In Search of the Porch Chatham Hairy Man
https://tubitv.com/movies/654724/in-search-of-the-port-chatham-hairy-man
Alasquatch podcast:
https://www.alasquatchpodcast.com
https://www.youtube.com/@alasquatch3196
Enthralled by the allure of Alaska, Beans found solace and fascination in its untamed wilderness, ultimately making it his cherished home. Nestled amidst the breathtaking landscapes of the Last Frontier, Beans dedicated several years of his life to meticulously scrutinizing the mystifying realm of Bigfoot.
Prepare yourself for an enthralling tale as Beans regales us with his extraordinary Summit Lake investigation, a captivating follow-up to the riveting events chronicled in Bigfoot Society Episode 253. Immerse yourself in the mysteries that unfolded during his enthralling exploration, where truth and the unexplained converge.
But that's not all! Brace yourself as Beans shares some of the most astonishing encounters he has experienced while conducting extensive Bigfoot field research. From inexplicable phenomena to spine-tingling moments, he unveils a collection of truly bizarre and captivating tales that will leave you on the edge of your seat.
As if that wasn't enough, Beans divulges the riveting account of how he skillfully applied his law enforcement background to gather fingerprints from a Sasquatch handprint discovered on the back of the Area A cabin. Join us as we explore the intersection of his investigative prowess and the perplexing world of Sasquatch. Beans also shares new updates from Area A.
Lastly, we delve into the mysterious events that unfolded in Portlock, Alaska. Unravel the truth behind the enigma as we unearth the secrets lurking beneath the surface of this captivating Alaskan locale.
Keep in mind that throughout the episode, you may hear a gentle snoring sound intermittently. Rest assured, it's not an Electronic Voice Phenomenon (EVP); it's simply the comforting sound of Beans' faithful canine companion. Truly, a good dog adds an extra layer of charm to our riveting discussion.
Tune in to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast with Jeremiah Byron and discover the thrilling exploits and extraordinary insights of Larry "Beans" Baxter. Prepare to be captivated by tales that transcend the ordinary and venture into the realms of the extraordinary.
Resources:
Author of
Justice, Morale and Other Fairytales: Alaskan Cop Stories (affiliate link)
https://amzn.to/3MBA7nD
SQUATCH COP: Investigating and Documenting the Bigfoot Phenomenon (affiliate link)
https://amzn.to/45ygaXj
Abandoned: The History and Horror of Port Chatham, Alaska (affiliate link)
https://amzn.to/42bChQv
Documentary: In Search of the Porch Chatham Hairy Man
https://tubitv.com/movies/654724/in-search-of-the-port-chatham-hairy-man
Alasquatch podcast:
https://www.alasquatchpodcast.com
https://www.youtube.com/@alasquatch3196
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I was sitting there, and I
was sitting there on the swing of the
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cabin, and I was just having
this a moment where I was like,
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Man, this sucks. There's nothing
here, there's nothing going on, and
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Jeremy, I swear to God,
I couldn't make this up like no sooner
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and I had that thought. And
I actually had this thought where I was
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like, man, maybe maybe I
should not come out here as much and
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focus on other areas, because I
was thinking about maybe I should go out
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and focus on the refuge a little
bit more. I swear to God,
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Jeremiah. As soon as I had
that thought, I heard clear as day
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a knock behind the cabin up in
the woods, and I just I was
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swinging right, I'm on the swing, and I just hear that and I
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just stopped and I didn't hear no
one. And then I don't know,
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fifteen twenty seconds later, an airplane
went over. All right, big facity,
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You've got the privilege of talking to
a gentleman from way up north,
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mister Beans Baxter, from the magnificent
state of Alaska. How are you doing
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today, sir, Oh, I'm
living the dream, Jeremiah, thanks for
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having me on, Oh, man, you must have some crazy dreams up
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there too, Dude, I can't
imagine being up there. So we haven't
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had the privilege of meeting yet,
Beans, but someday I hope to meet
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you in person. Big fan of
your book, and we did talk.
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It seems like it was maybe a
year or so ago. But you are
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actually an author if you've written several
books. You've written Abandoned The History and
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Horror of Port Chattam, Alaska,
which if you're into the port Lock case,
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if you know anything about that and
you want to read an amazing book
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about it, Beans has literally written
the book on it. So I'm going
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to have that link in the show
notes. He's got another book, Squatch
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Cop, Investigating in document any of
the big Foot phenomenon, and that is
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because Beans he is a military and
law enforcement veteran. We might talk about
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that later. He also has a
brand new book that has just come out,
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Justice Morale and Other Fairy Tales Alaskan
Cops Stories. So if you're into
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like cool, weird stories from the
life of a police officer, we all
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know interesting stuff happens, Beans has
the book for you. So we'll have
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all all of those three books linked
in the show notes. But anything else
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that I need to throw in there
being so people know what they're getting into
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with this interview. Oh. I
do a wee little podcast every once in
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a while called a Last Watch that's
all about big foot in the Great State
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of Alaska. I have a YouTube
channel I sometimes I post videos on there.
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I post a lot of videos from
places I go and visit. There's
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a bunch of videos from the area. A cabin up there, me hanging
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out with rob Boy, menzies there, and a lot of fun stuff,
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a lot of if you want to
try and get an idea of the lay
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of the land, there's some cool
videos you can check out where I just
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walk around with my camera and just
show everybody the terrain. Oh nice,
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definitely gonna have all that linked in
the show notes, for sure. There's
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people love the Kenai Peninsula, I
think, and it just there's so much
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bigfoot things going on in that area. I had just released an episode a
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while back, episode two fifty three
big Foot Society. It was all about
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I talked to a gentleman who is
a trucker on the Kenai Peninsula and he
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had a few sightings. And after
I released that. Bean sent me a
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message on Facebook and he was like, Hey, just letting you know I've
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already looked into that, and it's
like, no way, really, I
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got get you us and we can
chat dude. So yeah, I would
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love to chat on that with you. But also we're going to cover some
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other things because you are quite the
Bigfoot investigator up there in the great state
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of Alaska. But Beans, so
tell me, first off, how did
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you find out about these this trucker's
story. There's a whole thing about how
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you found out about it. And
then so, oh, it's funny because
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you release your episode and I'm listening
to it. I don't get took.
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I regret to say I don't get
to listen to every single episode because I
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just I listened to so many podcasts
and not all of them are big Foot
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related. I just I get it. They build, and there's occasionally I
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just gotta go through it and be
like, I'm probably not gonna listen to
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this one. I'm probably not gonna
listen to this one. Yeah, especially
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the Alaska theme bigot ones I try
and listen to. And I was listening
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to it and I was like,
this, this sounds really familiar. I'm
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like, this sounds like super familiar. And so the longer the episode went
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on, I was like, I've
heard this before. And it wasn't a
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report that was given to me,
but I was like, I know I
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heard this before. So I go
back and I'm like looking through some of
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my records and stuff, and I
type in Summit Lake and I find this
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old report that I did. I
think it was from twenty eighteen, I
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believe is when I did report.
Yeah, and what had happened is Michael
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Thompson or the Sasquatch Tracker dot com
it contacted me. I mean Michael or
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probably the as far as I know, the only like year round residents that
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investigate bigfoot in Alaska. I'm sure
there are other enthusiasts and stuff up here,
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but he's a sasquatch tracker and I'm
a lasquatch and he had sent me
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this report and he left the gentleman's
name out. I believe the gentleman in
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the podcast his name was Tim or
that was that might have been a pseudonym.
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I never knew the witness's name.
But he sends me this report and
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says, hey, this isn't too
far from you. This gentleman had a
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sighting. He's a truck driver.
Uh, you know, if you get
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the opportunity, you can check it
out. And like I said, I
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live in Homer and this happened and
around the Summit Lake area. So that's
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it's a couple hours away from me, but by Alaska terms, that's relatively
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close. Michael lives about ten and
a half hours away from me. Nothing
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in Alaska's close together. So I
thought, yeah, all head up there
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and look around. And we knew
the general area, but we didn't know
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the exact area. And when you're
saying, like what could have been between
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mile marker, what did he say? Forty seven? I think I have
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forty one to eight in my report. That's seven miles of I can't get
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out and walk seven miles and look
for tracks in the snow, especially not
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on a busy highway. So so
yeah, I headed up there. I
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headed up there during the day,
drove those mile markers, drove back and
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forth for several hours just looking.
When I was didn't have a vehicle behind
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me, I was crawling looking for
any places where something big might across the
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road. Didn't really see anything.
Did see a lot of people in that
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area recreating. So he mentioned there's
a couple of big pool outs there in
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the area. Of course, I
was there during the daytime. There were
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people skiing, there were people snowmobiling. I mentioned in my report, and
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I'd forgotten about this, so I
went back and read my report. But
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I was driving down the road and
I'm like looking up in the woodline and
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I see a figure like dart between
two trees and slam on my brakes and
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I'm looking and it's like a dude
on skis, like ski. Yeah.
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Yeah, so that kind of gave
me a start. But I think I
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remember I even mentioned in my report
he was wearing like a yellow snowsuit or
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something. Definitely a dude. But
yeah, it was interesting because I got
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to go up there and check out
the area. I was put off by
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the amount of people that were up
there and were recreating. Like I said,
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though I was there here in the
daytime, there's not probably not a
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lot of people there at two three
o'clock in the morning exactly. One of
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the other things that that kind of
struck me about the areas. If there's
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just man people recreating in here,
I would think that maybe we would get
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more reports out of here. There'll
be some tracks or something. But again,
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if you're out doing winter recreation and
you see some big tracks in the
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snow, you might think, let's
snowshoe tracks or something like that. So
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most people don't have bigfoot on the
brain, like like I would or Michael
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Empton Wood if we went out in
the woods. So I could also see
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how maybe something like that wouldn't get
reported or even noticed by people that were
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out doing winter recreation. Another interesting
fact about this area that wasn't in your
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episode, Jeremiah. Right around this
area, there is a place called Devil's
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Creek Trail. Oh really, And
that's interesting because there's a lot of places
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with Devil's Lake, Devil's Creek,
Devil's Trail, Scoopum Lake, names like
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that, and they seem to be
areas of you know, bigfoot activity that
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occur in those areas. I told
myself, I'm like, I'm gonna look
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into that and see if i can
find out how that place got its name
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and forgot about it over the years
and haven't went back and researched it.
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But there is a place called Devil's
Creek in that vicinity that's really interesting.
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I'm gonna have to look up.
I bet you that's in Franzoni's book.
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He's got that great book that goes
over all the like Bigfoot related names like
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all over the US. It's nuts. I'll put that in the show notes
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too as well. There was an
interesting part of that interview I did with
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that trucker where he mentioned that I
believe he went to a small diner or
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cafe and he was talking to an
older gentleman and they had mentioned that there
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was like a cabin that was in
the woods outside of that same area.
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In it they had stories there over
the years that they'd seen Bigfoot around that
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cabin. Is that anything that had
come up as well? Or no,
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I haven't heard that. I did
hear it in your episode. Yeah,
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I know the diner he's talking about
there in Cooper Landing. In fact,
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Cooper Landing, there's a little store
called wild Man's. Oh. I've been
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in there and I asked the lady
work and I was like, Hey,
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is it why and she said no, it's just it's like the nickname of
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the guy that owns the place or
something that's not has anything to do with
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Bigfoot. Sasquatch, a wild man, or anything like that. Coincidentally,
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she did tell me that her sister
had a sighting of Bigfoot and casil Off,
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Alaska, which isn't too far from
here. But yeah, that was
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that was a few years ago,
probably back in It was about the first
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time we went to Port Chattom,
I think in twenty eighteen. But okay,
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but yeah, there's a couple of
places in Cooper Landing that are are
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getting close to Cooper Landing that I've
found tracks and had experiences myself. So
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it's that area. It's good,
it would be good habitat. I think
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if they're around here, they're probably
in that area and probably moved through there
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pretty frequently. That area in your
Summit Lake, it's a pretty good amalgamation
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of a bunch of different You've got
really tall mountains and you've got thick forest,
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and then you've got a few like
wide open flat areas, so there's
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a good mix of terrain in there
and enough cover for them to stay hidden
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if they wanted to. Personally,
I think probably with the amount of people
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that are creating there, they probably
don't live in that particular area year round,
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but they may certainly pass through there. Can you explain to myself and
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listeners that are not Alaska based,
how big the Kenai Peninsula is, maybe
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using like lower forty eight terms or
what is it? Is it huge?
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It's pretty big, but it's not
you can drive it in a couple of
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hours, okay, okay, so
it's doable. It's in fact in abandoned.
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I have the exact measurements. I
think it's how like how long.
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It's something like one hundred and fifty
miles long, and I can't remember how
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long many miles across, But there's
only You've got Keenai, Soldotna, Seward,
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Homer, and then a couple of
little towns peppered around. But other
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than that, it's not very it's
not very there's not a lot of people
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inveing here. It's not very occupied. There's a lot of open space.
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The Kenai National Wildlife Refugees here.
That's several I can't remember if it's tens
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of thousands or hundreds of thousands of
acres. It's huge, So it's there's
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a lot going on here, and
plus some of it, like for me
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to get this, Seward's not as
the crow fly Seward is not that far
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away from me. But I got
to drive around the Hope Pensula pretty much.
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I got to go up through Cooper
landing us to the Why and then
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turn right to go south and go
another It's like, what is it,
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There's four hours for me to get
the Steward something like that. Would you
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consider that peninsula a hot spot or
big foot like I hear there's so many
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things that are Bigfoot related that happen
on that peninsula or is it is that
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kind of just par for the course
in Alaska in general, like you're going
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to have. I wouldn't say it's
a hot spot, but it definitely has
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it has hot spots on it,
it makes any sense. You've got Port
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Chatham, which has its history.
You have the villages a little bit north
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of Port chat I mean, you
have nan Wall, like Port Graham.
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Those places it's almost always you almost
always hear something going on. There's some
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kind of big Foot story or signing
or something coming out of there, and
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some fairly recent ones too. But
then you come to Homer, not a
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lot going on in horror, there's
not any big Foot sightings around here.
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Homer has been here for a long
time. I think it was officially,
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like I believe the police department was
formed in sixty four or something like that,
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But the town has been here longer, much longer than that, and
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I think probably just the amount of
people here, I guess they just know
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to stay away. It's pretty well
established. Talent's been here for a while.
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Then you got keen Is sold out
and up the road. Not a
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lot of sightings like coming out of
those cities, but once you get out
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of them into the wildlife refuge places
like that, there's activity going on and
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there I believe that's probably one of
the hot spots. And then if you
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head to order to Seward, not
necessarily in Seward, but outside of Seward,
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you know, outside around Area A, that place just an hour or
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two outside of Seward by boat still
on the peninsula, a lot of stuff
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coming out of there. That's where
Area A is. That's where less Strout
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had his heard the pant hooting or
whatever. That actually wasn't very far from
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Area A at all. Stuff like
that. So I wouldn't say you can't
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throw a blanket over the Kenai pensula
and say it's a hot spot, but
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there's definitely spots within the Kenai Peninsula
that you could say those you would have
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a better chance of activity there than
in other places. Has there been a
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time, Beans when you've been out
in the woods and something just crazy has
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happened, Bigfoot related, and you've
been it's almost man, check please.
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I don't know if I want to
be here right now or just anything that
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you're like, wow, this has
been tads. I've had a few things
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happened to me that kind of creeping
me out. One day, I was
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driving through the refuge, the Kenaie
Refuge there, and I'm driving along.
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I'm driving real slow. That's pretty
much just a one lane gravel road,
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and I'm not I don't really have
an agenda in mine. I'm just I'm
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just I'm watching the tree line more
than I'm watching the road. I'm just
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trucking along, crawling along. And
I see this, these two trees,
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two pretty large trees, crossed to
making an X, and I stop and
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I look at them, and I'm
like, I'm gonna I want to go
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look at that, but I don't
want to park right here because it's a
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one lane road. But I knew
there was like a little pull out like
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a couple hundred yards up the road. So I said, I'm gonna go
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up here. I'm gonna pull over, and I'll walk back, and I
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want to check these exits out,
and I wanted to see maybe if they
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were natural or maybe. But one
of the things that I try to look
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for when I find something like that, you know, is it just two
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trees that have just crossed over,
like the one has a root system attached
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and my other one still has a
root system attached, or is it maybe
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one that's been pushed over and then
another one that's brought in from somewhere else
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and placed there. That's that was
what I was looking forward to try and
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decide if it was natural or not. So I go park, get my
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backpack and stuff on, walk back
down towards where I saw the xes,
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keep walking, keep walking looking,
don't see him, and get to the
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point where I'm like, okay,
I know I've gone too far. Turn
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back around, start walking back towards
the truck looking look, no exes,
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and I'm like, I should have
thrown something out of the truck, like
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mark X marks the spot or something. But I'm like, okay, how
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am I overlooking this? These are
two giant trees that were making an X
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formation. How can I not see
this? So I'm like, maybe it's
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because I'm several feet lower than I
was while ago. I was in my
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truck while ago when I saw it. Let's recreate it. So I go
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back, get in my truck,
drive back down to where I know I've
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gone too far, turn around,
drive back through there. Cannot find it
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again. Absolutely, I don't know
what. I cannot explain it. I
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don't know where they went. That's
weird. It wasn't like I just drove
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by and was like, I'm gonna
go back. I stopped, rolled my
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window down, looked, didn't take
a picture. Should have. It's curse
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a big foot. I'm gonna I'm
gonna come back. I'm gonna take it.
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I'm gonna look. I'm gonna want
to walk out. I don't remember
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how far it was, probably it
was less than a hundred yards from the
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road. I'm gonna walk out there. I'm gonna look at those trees because
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I want to see if that looks
natural or if it's something else. Go
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part the truck. I don't know
how long it took me. I wasn't
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in a hurry. Fifteen twenty minutes
maybe a little bit more, came walking
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back and could not find it again. Didn't hear anything, didn't see anything,
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smell anything, but I just could
not find those trees again to save
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my life. Man, that would
mess with me for a while. I
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like, what is going on the
same area a little bit further down the
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road at a campsite. I mean, and my wife were in this campsite.
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It's the only camp site there.
It's my favorite spot. It's right
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next to the lake. And we
were tent camping. And this was back
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like I didn't have my I didn't
have my audio. This is what This
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is why I bought an audio recorder. Something. You go out, something
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happens and you're like, oh,
if only I had this piece of equipment,
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then you go buy that piece of
equipment. It never happens again,
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exactly. So it's like three four
o'clock in the morning, we're snoozing in
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the tent. I wake up the
rollover or something, and I hear just
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this three or four times, this
like roar, whoa. It wasn't close
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to us, it was echo.
It was far away. It wasn't close
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to us enough that I was like
scared, or anything. But it was
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loud and it was I didn't recognize
it, and I just I'm just laying
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there listening to it, and it
doesn't like three times in a row or
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something like that. And I asked
my wife. I didn't even wake her
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up. I didn't nudge her.
I just said, did you hear that?
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And she goes, what was that? And I'm like, I don't
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know. She's born and raised here. I'm not, but I'm pretty familiar
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with the wildlife. And it certainly
didn't sound like a bear. It didn't
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sound like any kind of It was
a roar, slash scream, and it
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was just the weirdest thing. And
like I said, I you know,
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if i'd had a recorder, I
probably would have captured it for sure,
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but I didn't at the time.
I do now, but it was crazy.
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And like I said, she's born
and race here. She had no
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idea what it was. She's like, I didn't sound like a bear.
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Bears have a certain a certain cadence
to him, a certain tone, and
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this didn't really sound like that.
This sounded like it was a cross between
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an animal and a person yelling.
It was a real sound. Man,
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Oh boy, that would Oh,
I have yet to hear vocalization. That's
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going to be quite the day when
that happens. But man, that's probably
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your military and law enforcement background came
into play to you know that. That's
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a good question. That's a good
question. Actually, have you found that
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having that type of background really helps
you out as a bigfoot researcher? Or
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I think it helps me to notice
things maybe other people don't a little bit
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better awareness of my surroundings, or
I notice, oh, hey, look
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there's a branch broken up here or
something, or maybe a couple other people
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have walked under it or something.
Helps in that regard. It helps with
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the hand print. They found an
area eight. We need somebody to swab
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this for us, and they called
me out there to do it because I've
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actually done that in real life before
with criminal cases. I've sent DNA to
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the crime lab for analysis. So
I felt qualified to go out there and
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do it because I've done it in
a real world scenario before. Absolutely.
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Since we're on the topic of Area
A, what do you think is going
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on out there? Man? That's
just the wildest place that holds Alaskan coastal
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Sasquatch from small town monsters, Alex
Petticoff those guys. It looks like a
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wild place, dude. Yeah,
I think Robberry and I were just out
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there. When was it? Was
it last month? Oh, we've been
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out there this year. We went
out there. It was our first trip
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out there this year. We got
to run around a little bit and we
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found some really interesting scat that we
couldn't really identify it. It's funny because
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if you I've got the video of
when we found it, and I walk
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by and I look at it,
and I'm like, hey, Robberty,
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come here and look at this.
And he comes over and he goes,
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you can hear that. It's awesome
because you I've captured him seeing it for
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the first time, and he goes, oh, that looks human. Oh.
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And we get to looking at it
and it's pretty It's not huge by
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any means, but it's definitely what
you would expect to come out of a
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probably a good sized person. And
it has seeds in it, so it's
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probably not human. But it also
it doesn't really look like any bear scat
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that I've ever seen. So I'll
send you some pictures of it, but
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yeah, hey, I could put
those up in the YouTube version. Yeah,
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it's It was definitely some interesting scat, and we ended up collecting it
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because I I've found scat before and
not collected it, and I regretted it,
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so I went we went ahead and
pick them up. And I'm still
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waiting to hear back from somebody on
it. I can't tell you like what
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we found, but I have sent
it to a few people. I had
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Amy Boo show it to her or
what are they called the Zoo Yah Zoo
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book project, had her show it
doesn't and the general consensus with them that
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was probably bear. And I don't
know, Like I said, it doesn't
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like any bear scout I've seen.
I've stepped in a lot of bear scat.
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I've had it on me, and
it certainly didn't look like any bear
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scout that I've seen, But I
don't know what else it could have been.
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It didn't look like wolf scat or
coyote scat, or move scat or
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deer scat or anything else that could
have been in that area. And so
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it was some interesting looking stuff.
Have you ever heard anything out of the
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ordinary there or experienced any weird stuff
happening in area? Yeah, we talk
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about area and all the stuff we've
experienced there, and people that listen they
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might think that it happens all the
time you get there and there's activity up
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to the time to leave. It's
not really like that because we don't talk
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about the times when we're sitting around
on the porch, like drinking a coke
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and nothing's going on. But there
is quite a bit of stuff going on
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out there. One of the last
times I was out there last year,
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I was sitting on the swing and
I was I'd actually been going out there
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quite a bit and hadn't really had
anything happen, and I was actually got
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a little discouraged. I was like, man, the place is beautiful.
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It's amazing. People pay a lot
of money to go out there and spend
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time places like this, but you
know me, I want it all.
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I'm sitting out there. This sucks. Where are the big footing. It's
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like dress, when do we get
to see the dynasas exactly. I'm like
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in this beautiful Alaskan cabin with the
mountains in the background and the sun shining,
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and I'm like, this sucks.
And I was sitting there, and
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I was sitting there on the swing
of the cabin and I was just having
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this a moment where I was like, man, this sucks. There's nothing
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here, there's nothing going on,
and Jeremy, I swear to God,
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I couldn't make this up, like
no sooner had I had that thought.
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And I actually had this thought where
I was like, man, maybe maybe
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I should not come out here as
much and focus on other areas, because
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I was thinking about maybe I should
go out and focus on the refuge a
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little bit more. I swear to
God, Jeremiah. As soon as I
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had that thought, I heard clear
as day a knock behind the cabin up
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in the woods, and I just
I was swinging right on the swing and
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I just hear that and I just
stopped and I didn't hear no one.
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And then I don't know, fifteen
twenty seconds later, an airplane went over,
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not a little little plane, a
big plane. And I was like,
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I wonder if it had something to
do with the plane. Yeah,
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Anyway, I sat out on the
porch like a little bit longer, and
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another plane went over. I didn't
hear a knock, so I was like,
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I don't think that had anything to
do with it. But then I'm
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like, did it have something to
do with me. So I don't know.
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It was just a real weird,
kind of little coincidence. And I
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don't think it was meant to be
a sign or anything. But I took
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it as maybe I'm not done with
there yet, maybe I'll keep heading u
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there. And like I said,
I haven't really been I haven't been completely
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disappointed in a while out there.
It seems like something happens every time I
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go out there, and nothing maybe
nothing major, but something happens. And
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like when me and Robberry went out
there we found that scat. We had
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some really interesting audio recorded that night
while we were sleeping. Yeah, I
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think probably. I think what's happened
is they've maybe the novelty of the cabin
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being there's maybe worn off a little
bit for them. Sure, I don't
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think they I don't think, if
this makes any sense, I don't think
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they're as close to the cabin as
they used to be. I think they
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used to spend a lot of time
watching the cabin. I don't I think
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maybe they don't do that anymore.
And I know the owner cleared some alders
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out by the beach, and that
seems seemed like there was a lot of
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activity in those alders, like rocks
would come flying out all those alders.
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It seems like that doesn't really happen
anymore. So I think maybe once they
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realize they're not they're not going to
bother us. I think they're still around.
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I just don't think they spend as
much time focused on the cabin as
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they used to, and I think
they've realized that it's probably not a threat.
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How long do you guys usually stay
there when you go to visit.
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Usually it depends, but usually two
to four or five days. I think
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five days. It is probably the
longest I've been out there. Be interesting.
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I'm sure there's been Scott has probably
stayed there for an extended period of
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time, though, I would imagine
he's told me what the longest amount of
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time he's been out there is.
I don't remember what it is. I
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want to say it's something like two
weeks. Oh wow, But I'm not
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don't quote me on that. I'm
not ches. I know this year,
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I think there's gonna be somebody out
there pretty much all of June, including
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Alex and I hopefully. Yeah.
Big things coming, for sure, big
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things coming. I had a good
chat with Seth about that when he was
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on a few weeks ago. That
was yeah, oh man, as TM
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is doing some cool stuff in Alaska
in the future, sooner than people realize.
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For sure. We talked about the
handprint a little bit and that was
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really cool because I wasn't expecting yet
to be in that and you came out
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of nowhere. It's like, oh
man, it's I'm digging. It's the
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bean show for a little bit.
This is great and it shows you do
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dusting the fingerprint all that good stuff. Has there been any other info or
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is that kind of a thing where
we may see something from that in the
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future. We just have to hold
on, I think, and I don't
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have like official confirmation on this.
So pick this with a big foot sized
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gras salt. I think that is
probably going to be addressed. And Leger
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meat science too. Maybe. I
don't know. I don't want see.
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I think that's what we're they're gonna
they're gonna handle that. That's awesome which
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is being made now. And hey, even if it's not addressed, we're
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still getting robot baby robot baby big
Foot, which is the best thing that's
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in big footing for years. I
think I want I want to have an
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actual robot baby big Foot. That
would be great. Anyways, I sent
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those swaps to Doug, so hopefully
check. Yeah, they're in good hands,
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and hopefully he does something with them. Oh for sure, I'm sure
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he will. I'm sure he will. Another thing that when a lot of
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people over let's say the last year
or so, if you say Alaska big
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Foot, they're gonna they're gonna think
at port Lock, Right, You've spent
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a lot of time researching it.
I would be really curious to hear it
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from your perspective. Would you be
able to share, like what this story
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area of what happened at Portlock is
and then how you were involved of researching
422
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maybe what you found things of that
nature. So Portlock was a little fishing
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village, it was. It's in
Port Chatham. So you're as you leave
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the harbor here and head out in
a Catchmac Bay and turned the corner into
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the real ocean and then head down
about forty miles or so when you get
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to the very tip of the peninsula. There's a little bay in there called
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Port Chatham, and inside Port Chatham
is Portlock. A lot of people think
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that there was two towns. There
was a town called Port Chatam in a
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town called Portlock. Port Chatham's the
bay and Portlock's the town. And I
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actually had that clarified by someone who
lived in Portlock, who grew up there,
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so there's no confusion of that.
I still hear people say that every
432
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once in a while and I'm like, that's not accurate. And so it
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was just a little fishing village.
It had a saw mill, it had
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the cannery. And what a lot
of people don't really realize is back then
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they didn't have a lot of the
regulations that they do now with fishing and
436
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.320
stuff like that, and it wasn't
really a free for all. But again,
437
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it was a little bit like the
Wild West. And the saw mill
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built these like fish traps, and
that's what they used for catching the salmon
439
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.880
in They put them like at the
head of the bays and the creeks and
440
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stuff, and they would just swim
into them. And they had the logging
441
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operation that fed the saw mill that
made the traps, and then they were
442
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catching all the fish. So right
there, you've got they were taking the
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trees and they were taking a fish. So that right there might be perceived
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as a potential threat a resource threat
to any Sasquatch that we're living in the
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area. So you start hearing these
stories. I think I don't have my
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notes in front of me, but
I believe right around nineteen or eight or
447
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something like that was around the first
time there was an entry in one of
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the Canary logs about the guy.
The people didn't want to work because there
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was something in the forest that was
like coming into town and bothering the people,
450
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and they actually hired some like Pinkerton
like guards to watch the town while
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so the people would come in and
work. I spoke with a gentleman whose
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grandmother actually worked in the Canary when
she was a little girl. I think
453
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she said or he told her,
and he told me that she was like
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eight years old or something like that, said she was making thirty cents a
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day or something like that for working
in the cannery. So they didn't have
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unions or child labor. Yeah,
imagine that, you know, wake up
457
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you're eight years old, and you
get woken up and you're like, all
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right, you're not gonna go play
today, You're gonna go work in the
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cannery man, and you're getting thirty
cents a day. So the town it
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was growing, it was bustling.
They were having some good years to fish.
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And then and the nineteen was it
nineteen forties, you start hearing about
462
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things like there was I know it
was thirty eight, nineteen thirty eight.
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You had you had a prospector go
missing. Somebody came in went up into
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the hills to look for gold.
He turned up missing. He had the
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death of Andrew Camlock, who was
out running a logging operation. They found
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him dead. They said that he
was crushed with a piece of logging equipment
467
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.679
that was too big for a man
to lift or a person to lift.
468
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And they blame this thing they called
the Nanti knock, which is their version
469
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of a big foot. And I
mentioned this in the book, and it's
470
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pretty cool because you know, you
hear nanton knock means big foot, and
471
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.119
technically they say nanton knock means a
giant hairy thing or a big hairy man,
472
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.199
and then you also hear it doesn't
really translate well and there's no official
473
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.679
like translation for it. And that's
my favorite definition is that one is it
474
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:42.800
just doesn't translate well, that we
don't understand what it is. They give
475
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:49.840
it a bunch of different abilities.
The kushtaka and some of the other native
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lower creatures. They say it can
shape shift, they say it has red
477
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:59.239
eyes. They say it comes when
it's foggy, it can come on the
478
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mist. They give it some supernatural
attributes. And it was a time when
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people were uncertain and they were scared. They weren't sure what was going on.
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And eventually, by nineteen fifty the
town was abandoned and nobody lived there
481
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anymore. The postmaster, they said, was the last person to leave.
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Over time, the legs like grew
and got exacerbated. I know on the
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internet. I can't believe something got
blown out of proportion. Yeah, it
484
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:43.119
got turned into a bigfoot massacre,
which it wasn't. Basically, there was
485
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:49.079
a series of strange and unfortunate events
that they attributed to the NATO knock that
486
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may have been responsible, but there
were also some economic reasons and stuff that
487
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led up to the abandonment of the
town. But you still have missing people,
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00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.239
you still have unexplained deaths, you
still have bigfoot signings there. There's
489
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there was a gentleman who said that
he saw a big foot walking along the
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00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.719
beach. He said, I was
carrying a club and the gentleman. He's
491
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.639
passed away. Now, he'd passed
away before I read his account. But
492
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.559
I would love to sit down with
that gentleman ask him like why did you
493
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.000
say club and not stick or a
log? Like why did you say he
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00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:36.199
was carrying a club? But yeah, there's just a lot of bigfoot lore,
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00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.000
nanto knockle lore in that area.
And honestly, it may have had
496
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.280
something to do with the town of
being abandoned and people wanting to leave,
497
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But personally, I don't think it
was the main reason. I think it
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might have been a contributing reason.
A lot of times today Jeremiah with like
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things. There's no, there's not
there's a lot of divisiveness, there's no
500
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.079
a lot of them. Maybe Okay, this person believes this, and this
501
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.559
person believes that. Maybe he has
a good point and she has a good
502
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.480
point. Maybe there's some truth.
It's got to be this way or it's
503
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.360
got to be that way or yeah
nothing, yeah, And I've heard a
504
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:16.639
lot of people say, oh,
there was no big foot Masaker, then
505
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.480
that whole story is bunk, And
I don't know. Well, there's there's
506
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.280
some good stuff in there. There's
some good scary creepy stuff in the history
507
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:30.360
of Port Chatham, but it's not. It wasn't the big Foot massacre that
508
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:39.039
some people make it out to me, gotcha, maybe not as killer as
509
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:45.719
some people would say. Like I
was saying, though you do have the
510
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.719
resources being depleted. They were taking
the trees, they were catching the fish.
511
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:58.280
If there was like a perfect storm, yeah, for to create angry
512
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:04.280
big Foot, but to create a
avenging Batman Bigfoot, it would have been
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00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.920
that time and probably that place because
there. I think it's a very good
514
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.639
environment for them. Honestly, it's
not a hop, skip and a jump
515
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:21.039
away from Area A, but it's
not beyond the realm of possibility to believe
516
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that you could walk to Area A
from there. It would take you a
517
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.960
long time, but it could happen. It's a lot of the same terrain.
518
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There are some like glaciers and stuff
you would probably have to cross over.
519
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.239
I don't I don't think it would
be I'm not gonna say human couldn't
520
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.119
do it, but it would be
very difficult. But it's not beyond the
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00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.639
realm of possibility. They're connected by
land. It's just a lot of land
522
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:55.679
in between them, so there's actually
there's a documentary that you had. I
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00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:02.000
believe it was you with Stephen Major
that had put together about the expedition to
524
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.679
go out there as well. People
can read your book, but they could
525
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also watch it on certain platforms as
well. Did you notice anything once you
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actually got there in person, you
set foot in the area. Was there
527
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:27.920
anything that stepped out to you that
you hadn't really made the connection before you'd
528
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been able to go there in person? There was, there were It was
529
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.280
an amazing experience. It was one
of those things that I wish I could
530
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:40.119
go back and experience it again for
the first time, just stepping off the
531
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:49.480
boat and getting there and then just
realizing how wild it is and how thick
532
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:53.199
the forest it. We're walking through
there, we're bushwhacking, and I'm thinking,
533
00:42:53.280 --> 00:43:00.480
like, how in the hell I
couldn't imagine going there today and building
534
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.920
a town like it? Just to
me, it would just see these people.
535
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.880
They didn't have chainsaws, they didn't
have you know, they didn't have
536
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.079
heavy equipment, they didn't have four
wheelers, they didn't have anything that we
537
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:17.719
would take over there with us to
help make any kind of endeavor like that
538
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.920
easy. And You've got to think
these people are showing up, probably with
539
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:28.239
like axes and rope and just whatever
they and they're building houses and they're clearing
540
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.400
trees and they're they're just making this
place. They're civilizing this place, putting
541
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.599
the village here. And I can't
imagine doing that today with today's technology.
542
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.199
Just how what an undertaking that would
be, just how thick it is and
543
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:49.800
how unforgiving the terrain is. And
that was one of the things that really
544
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.920
struck me. It was just like, man, I can't believe this place
545
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.559
was ever a town, just as
wild as it is. And then we're
546
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.239
walking along through there. We're walking, and then we do we find we
547
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.679
start finding structures with a few remaining
like structures over there. And then that
548
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.360
was another sober and momental Man,
somebody lived here. This was somebody's like
549
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:15.440
house, and that's crazy to think
that somebody was was probably born there and
550
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:22.559
then moved away. And here it
sets still today, and it survived the
551
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.360
nineteen sixty four earthquake, it survived
a few bigger earthquakes we've had since then,
552
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.679
and it's just neat to see that. And then they have the machinery
553
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:36.719
still there from the cannery, the
canneries all gone okay, but you can
554
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.199
see that some of the machinery.
And it's interesting because we were walking along
555
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.159
the beach and we find this section
of beach it's kind of littered with like
556
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.400
old, rusty like equipment, and
they're like, that's weird. How did
557
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.079
that get here? It's just here
on the beach. Then when you walk
558
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.280
around and you walk up on the
cliffs above the beach there you can see
559
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.800
what's happening is the water, you
know, the ocean is eroding that cliff
560
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:06.639
face, and that equipment is still
up there on that cliff, and that
561
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.079
equipment that's on the beach has fallen
through erosion. It's fallen off the cliff,
562
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.239
and there's still some stuff up there. There's still some equipment up there,
563
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.599
and we got we got some footage
and some pictures of it. But
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eventually, like and another fifty hundred
years, that stuff's probably gonna be gone
565
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.000
too, because it's just gonna fall
off into the ocean. That's wild man.
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00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:31.760
Yeah, listeners, if if you're
not aware of what we're talking about,
567
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.679
you gotta hit up some of the
links I got in the show notes,
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00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.280
and you gotta check his book out. And check out that documentary as
569
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:46.599
well. It's a it's a fascinating
look at something you may have seen another
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00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.079
way, and it'll be worth your
time for sure. And you know how
571
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.880
there's people that that kind of focus
on area history and they're like civil war
572
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:01.559
buffs or they're they're like maritime you
know buffs or something like that. They
573
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:09.679
just they focus on a specific era
or a specific thing in history, traveling,
574
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:16.559
carnivals or something like that's the area. There's a section of history buffs
575
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:23.639
that you'll find, particularly around Alaska, Southeast Alaska, Washington, and scattered
576
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:29.480
along the coast in Canada that focus
a lot on the history the fishing and
577
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:34.639
cannery history. And during there was
a lot of cannaries that would just they
578
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.119
would pop up and they would last
for a year or two and then they
579
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.079
would go away, or they would
move or something would happen, and there's
580
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:44.679
a lot of these like history buffs. That's what they focus on, is
581
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:51.360
like cannary history. And the thing
is, though there's almost no information about
582
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.440
the Port Chatham Cannery, there's a
little bit and you can look at it
583
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:01.400
and find some stuff. I found
some actually some pretty cool property records when
584
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.719
I was doing my research, I
found like a bill of sell somebody bought
585
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:13.400
the pool hall for a dollar or
something. That was probably one of those
586
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.159
They won it in a card game
and they had to do the bill of
587
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.239
sale, but they had to put
an amount on there, so they did
588
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.119
a dollar. But yeah, there's
not a lot of information out there about
589
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.599
the cannery or the company. And
from what I understand, when the cannery
590
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.199
closed here, they moved down to
Washington and opened up. I think it
591
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.199
might even call the Portlock Cannery down
and Washington. They might still be around
592
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.920
for all I know, But there's
just like a gap in the history for
593
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.440
when they were in Port Chat.
There's not a whole lot of information.
594
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:54.800
Very interesting. Is there anything right
now that has you awake at night that's
595
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:02.920
keep keeping you awake to do with
big Foot that you're currently researching. I
596
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:09.000
think about that handprint a lot,
and what the what the what the results
597
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.239
of those swabs are going to be? Yeah? Yeah, for those that
598
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.199
haven't said, I believe it's the
Lasting Coastal sund squash, I believe it's
599
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:22.679
part two. Yeah, Alex and
his buddies are at the cabin out there
600
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.960
at the area A and Alex is
walking. I think he's walking back from
601
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.559
to the cabin from being up in
the woods behind the cabin. It just
602
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:35.880
happens to see this handprint on the
back of the cabin, and it was
603
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.079
it was a pretty good It was
a good print. You could see dermal
604
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:45.480
ridges. It was a good site. It wasn't huge, it was within
605
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.280
the human range. But it was
a big hand. It was bigger than
606
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:58.159
my hand, which I have skinny, little girly fingers, but it was
607
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:05.039
bigger than my hand. I'm pretty
big guy. And so they took a
608
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.960
lot of pictures of it, and
they wanted to swab it, and they
609
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:15.079
called me in to do the swabbing, and I went in and use some
610
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.800
some swabs that I like to use
back in my police career. They're called
611
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:25.159
capture swabs, and they have a
little plastic tube at the top, so
612
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.880
after you swab something, you can
close the tube and the swab is protected.
613
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.559
That way you don't have to worry
about, you know, like hitting
614
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:37.079
something else with it. I collected
a bunch of those and some off the
615
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:42.719
Doug Hicheck and we're awaiting the testing
of those. And that's I would say.
616
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.559
If anything with Bigfoot keeps me awake
in hind it's wondering what's going to
617
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.840
come back with those I know,
Doctor Meldrum is pretty convinced it's a human
618
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:57.639
print, and like I said,
it's certainly not beyond the size or of
619
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.920
range for a human print, but
it's really weird in the area it was
620
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:07.159
at and I just can't explain how
it got there. It doesn't make a
621
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.280
whole lot of sense. It was
probably about I don't remember the exact measurements,
622
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.639
but it's like five or six feet
off the ground. It's right underneath
623
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:20.800
the bunk room window where they've had
some stuff go on before. You know,
624
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:29.119
the story of the cooler remind me. So this room where they found
625
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:35.639
on the outside of the cabin where
they found this hamdprint. That room before
626
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:40.880
the cabin was finished. They had
it was framed up and they had kind
627
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.440
they were starting to wall it in
and it didn't have a front door,
628
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.840
so they had like a little wood
like I don't know, the two some
629
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.400
two by fours or something they were
making. They had a little ramt going
630
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:58.719
up into that room and it didn't
have a door. So at night when
631
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.320
they go to sleep, they just
put this piece of drywall. I don't
632
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.440
know if it's drywood, drywall re
applywood, but they put it up to
633
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.320
close that off, and they'd slide
this big yetdy cooler in front of it.
634
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:16.920
And this is one of those big, yety cooler like you could put
635
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:22.519
a body in it. Wow,
it's it's it takes two people to carry
636
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.239
it. It's one of it's probably
it's four foot or something. It's a
637
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.039
big cooler. It's an awesome cooler
too. It keeps stuff cold for days.
638
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.039
Anyway, they would slide that cooler
up there and it was full.
639
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.480
I had a bunch of meat and
stuff in it for their meals for a
640
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.960
while. I where this is.
They didn't have electric or anything out there
641
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:49.079
yet, so they had that door
sealed off with that piece apply wood.
642
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.760
They had to cooler propping that piece
of wood up there. And there's a
643
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:58.280
couple of guys sleep in that room. This one morning, it was like
644
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:05.440
three four o'clock in the morning something
like that. Something outside the cabin pushes
645
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:13.119
on that that makeshift door. That
that cooler that probably weighs anywhere from between
646
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:17.639
forty and sixty pounds, slides across
the room and hits the wall on the
647
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:24.159
other side. The makeshift door falls
in and people start yelling. The guys
648
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.519
in the room they start yelling,
go away, bear, go away bear.
649
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.320
They can't see anything, but they're
assuming it's a bear. And then
650
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:36.960
as everybody's getting scott actually the owner
of the cabin actually comes running out of
651
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.760
his bedroom with the shotgun and he's
got to run like around the cabin to
652
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.960
get to that room. And he
says he's running around the cabin to get
653
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:51.039
in there. He hears sum up
the hill. Oh man, So that
654
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.599
room where that happened, that's the
room where the handprint was found on the
655
00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:01.400
outside of the cabin. That's awesome. That's a really cool additional story to
656
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:10.719
know about that. Yeah, that's
very cool. It'll be very interesting to
657
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:17.840
see what info comes out in the
future about that, hopefully. But I've
658
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:23.079
got a left field question for you
beans. I've talked to a few people
659
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:30.119
about Alaska things over the last year. Head an episode where it talked to
660
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:38.760
a gentleman. It was about southeast
Alaska. But I'm just curious at you've
661
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:44.280
researched a lot on the Kenai Peninsula. Have you ever run into anything to
662
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:51.360
do with four toad Bigfoot. No, I haven't helped you four toad tracks
663
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:58.000
or toad anything. Okay, cool. Supposedly if you do, you want
664
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:02.119
to watch your back because they're super
They're the ultimate and aggressive Bigfoot, so
665
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:09.199
watch out for sure. It was
the stories that he was sharing. It
666
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:16.119
was on in Clook on Southeast Alaska. Oh. Is that the Salvation Army
667
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.039
guy? Yeah? Yeah, he's
a cool dude. Yeah, you heard
668
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:25.480
that one. Very nice guy.
Man. I am. I have a
669
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:32.239
feeling that we might be seeing more
of you in the future, and I
670
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.800
hope you show up in some of
the STM stuff we'll see. But well
671
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:40.440
I should, I should be in
some of the stuff they're gonna do this
672
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.119
trip coming up in June. Both
Alex and myself are going to be speakers
673
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.719
at the Boy Real Bigfoot Expo June
tenth and eleventh. I don't know if
674
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.239
it's coming out before or after that, but that's going to be in Fairbanks,
675
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.400
and we're really look it's going to
be the second one we've done.
676
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:02.960
Doctor Meldrum's going to be there.
Jonathan Redbird over from the Unsolved Mysteries.
677
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.760
He's one of the Novajo Rangers.
I'm looking forward to sitting down with him
678
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.320
and telling cops stories. I think
that's gonna be fun. Dude. Oh,
679
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.119
that would be a great episode if
you could. Oh, man,
680
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.840
that's a podcast episode. I don't
know. We're gonna be doing a live
681
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.400
podcast from the expo. I haven't
really decided what we're gonna do it about,
682
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.280
you know, because on one hand, I'm like I could sit down
683
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.599
and because I've got some a lot
ask a big Foot questions, I'd like
684
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.480
to ask Doctor Meldrum. Oh for
sure. Man. So I don't know
685
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.760
what we're gonna do, but they're
gonna be at some point. We're gonna
686
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:43.000
be recording a live podcast during the
expo, and we're gonna have a big
687
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.960
speakers panel at the end. There's
gonna be a Canadian gentleman there. I'm
688
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.280
not super familiar with him, Red
Grossinger. Apparently he's written a couple of
689
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.920
books. I think he maybe he's
a retired military gentleman. I believe he
690
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:58.880
okay, is from the Yukon,
or maybe he lives in the Yukon now
691
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.280
some ploy Yeah I've heard this.
Yeah, I've heard a little bit about
692
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:04.760
him. Yep, that would be
very interesting. I need to look more
693
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:10.119
into him for sure. What's his
name is? Subarctic Sasquatch. Fred Rowell's
694
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:14.679
going to be there. That guy's
cool, man. Yeah, he's an
695
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.519
interesting guy. Oh jeez. And
Rob Roy I think this is Rob Roy's.
696
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.960
I think this is his first appearance
at a conference that he's going to
697
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:28.400
be He's going to be a speaker
and he's gonna be have a booth and
698
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.400
be selling his bigfoot art. But
man, it's gonna be awesome. Get
699
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:37.679
together. That conference is the one
that's one of the ones that definitely go
700
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.599
to this year, is what it
sounds like for sure. And Michael Thompson,
701
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.880
a sasquatch tracker, the one that
ordered me to report to summit.
702
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:51.440
Like there he is going to be
speaking and he's going to be giving a
703
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:58.360
track casting workshop. Whoa really Yeah, dude, that's a legit man,
704
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.360
Oh my goodness. Definitely going to
have the info for that in the show
705
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.280
notes. I'm pretty sure this will
come out before then too, so people
706
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:12.039
can check it. I'll make sure
that it does. Says. I'm a
707
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:17.519
one man thing. I can make
that happen. Beans. It's been really
708
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:24.360
fun chatting with you. This has
been long overdue I definitely hope to catch
709
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:29.599
up with you again in the future, But can you take a few minutes
710
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:36.920
and remind people how they can keep
up to date with all the cool Alaska
711
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.960
big foot stuff that you're doing up
there. Oh, I have a website,
712
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.440
a Last Watch podcast dot com.
You can go there. You can
713
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:49.400
listen to the last episode. You
can there's links to my videos in there.
714
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.360
I've got a little store where you
can pick up my books. If
715
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.280
you want autograph copies, that's where
you need to pick them up, or
716
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.119
find me at a conference. I've
got a band in the History of Horror
717
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:05.559
Chatham. I've got Squatch cop which
is how to guide how to collect evidence
718
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.000
and document. It felt like there
was maybe a little bit of a It
719
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:13.760
was just a little bit of a
gap in the big foot community with stuff
720
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:19.800
like that. There's a lot of
good encounters and stories, but there's not
721
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.960
a lot of good instruction manuals out
there on how to do stuff like that,
722
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.119
like what happens when you go out
in the woods and you do find
723
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:30.039
something? Oh yeah, sure.
And my newest book, which just came
724
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:35.079
out today. I actually just got
my copies like five minutes before we jumped
725
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.639
on here. I have justice,
Morale and other fairy tales, a lasting
726
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:45.239
cop stories. It's there's fifty stories
in here, fifty short stories for my
727
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.760
time and uniform. Some of them
are funny, some of them are just
728
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.920
give you a little insight into what
it's being like a cop in Alaska,
729
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:59.159
and some of them are just a
little weird. There's some stories that were
730
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.559
passed on to me from other police
officers that I just felt like, Man,
731
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:07.519
this needs the this needs to we
need to carry the story off.
732
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:13.920
We've got a document this for prosperity's
sake. So there's a couple of stories
733
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.559
in there that I think are just
classic stories that I wanted to keep keep
734
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:22.599
out there and keep people up talking
about and entertained with. So that just
735
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.679
came out. So it's not on
my website yet, but it'll probably will
736
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:32.679
be by Monday or Tuesday. And
a very good Yeah, it's been great
737
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.239
chatting with you, beans, and
thank you so much for coming on,
738
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:38.840
dude, thank you for having me
man. I love I love talking about
739
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:52.480
Alaska and big Foot. It's my
favorite two things. You'd like to make
740
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.760
a special one time donation to big
Foot Society. You can head on over
741
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.159
to to buy me a coffee page. I'd like to shout out Brian Corbin
742
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:05.840
this week for buying five coffees which
will greatly help with our upcoming trip to
743
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:10.199
Monsterfest and beautiful Canton, Ohio.
His message says, can't wait to hear
744
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:15.480
how Monsterfest goes. I'll be sharing
that with the Patreon, of which Brian
745
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.599
is also a member. Rock on, Brian, You're a great guy.
746
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.840
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747
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:28.880
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I was sitting there, and I
was sitting there on the swing of the
2
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cabin, and I was just having
this a moment where I was like,
3
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Man, this sucks. There's nothing
here, there's nothing going on, and
4
00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.399
Jeremy, I swear to God,
I couldn't make this up like no sooner
5
00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:21.719
and I had that thought. And
I actually had this thought where I was
6
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like, man, maybe maybe I
should not come out here as much and
7
00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:29.359
focus on other areas, because I
was thinking about maybe I should go out
8
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and focus on the refuge a little
bit more. I swear to God,
9
00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:36.640
Jeremiah. As soon as I had
that thought, I heard clear as day
10
00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:41.840
a knock behind the cabin up in
the woods, and I just I was
11
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swinging right, I'm on the swing, and I just hear that and I
12
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just stopped and I didn't hear no
one. And then I don't know,
13
00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:57.600
fifteen twenty seconds later, an airplane
went over. All right, big facity,
14
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You've got the privilege of talking to
a gentleman from way up north,
15
00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.959
mister Beans Baxter, from the magnificent
state of Alaska. How are you doing
16
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today, sir, Oh, I'm
living the dream, Jeremiah, thanks for
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having me on, Oh, man, you must have some crazy dreams up
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there too, Dude, I can't
imagine being up there. So we haven't
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had the privilege of meeting yet,
Beans, but someday I hope to meet
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you in person. Big fan of
your book, and we did talk.
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It seems like it was maybe a
year or so ago. But you are
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actually an author if you've written several
books. You've written Abandoned The History and
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Horror of Port Chattam, Alaska,
which if you're into the port Lock case,
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if you know anything about that and
you want to read an amazing book
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about it, Beans has literally written
the book on it. So I'm going
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to have that link in the show
notes. He's got another book, Squatch
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Cop, Investigating in document any of
the big Foot phenomenon, and that is
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because Beans he is a military and
law enforcement veteran. We might talk about
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that later. He also has a
brand new book that has just come out,
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Justice Morale and Other Fairy Tales Alaskan
Cops Stories. So if you're into
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like cool, weird stories from the
life of a police officer, we all
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know interesting stuff happens, Beans has
the book for you. So we'll have
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all all of those three books linked
in the show notes. But anything else
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that I need to throw in there
being so people know what they're getting into
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with this interview. Oh. I
do a wee little podcast every once in
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a while called a Last Watch that's
all about big foot in the Great State
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of Alaska. I have a YouTube
channel I sometimes I post videos on there.
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I post a lot of videos from
places I go and visit. There's
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a bunch of videos from the area. A cabin up there, me hanging
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out with rob Boy, menzies there, and a lot of fun stuff,
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a lot of if you want to
try and get an idea of the lay
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of the land, there's some cool
videos you can check out where I just
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walk around with my camera and just
show everybody the terrain. Oh nice,
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definitely gonna have all that linked in
the show notes, for sure. There's
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people love the Kenai Peninsula, I
think, and it just there's so much
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bigfoot things going on in that area. I had just released an episode a
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while back, episode two fifty three
big Foot Society. It was all about
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I talked to a gentleman who is
a trucker on the Kenai Peninsula and he
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had a few sightings. And after
I released that. Bean sent me a
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message on Facebook and he was like, Hey, just letting you know I've
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already looked into that, and it's
like, no way, really, I
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got get you us and we can
chat dude. So yeah, I would
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love to chat on that with you. But also we're going to cover some
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other things because you are quite the
Bigfoot investigator up there in the great state
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of Alaska. But Beans, so
tell me, first off, how did
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you find out about these this trucker's
story. There's a whole thing about how
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you found out about it. And
then so, oh, it's funny because
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you release your episode and I'm listening
to it. I don't get took.
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I regret to say I don't get
to listen to every single episode because I
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just I listened to so many podcasts
and not all of them are big Foot
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related. I just I get it. They build, and there's occasionally I
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just gotta go through it and be
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this one. I'm probably not gonna
listen to this one. Yeah, especially
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the Alaska theme bigot ones I try
and listen to. And I was listening
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to it and I was like,
this, this sounds really familiar. I'm
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like, this sounds like super familiar. And so the longer the episode went
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on, I was like, I've
heard this before. And it wasn't a
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report that was given to me,
but I was like, I know I
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heard this before. So I go
back and I'm like looking through some of
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my records and stuff, and I
type in Summit Lake and I find this
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old report that I did. I
think it was from twenty eighteen, I
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believe is when I did report.
Yeah, and what had happened is Michael
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Thompson or the Sasquatch Tracker dot com
it contacted me. I mean Michael or
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probably the as far as I know, the only like year round residents that
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investigate bigfoot in Alaska. I'm sure
there are other enthusiasts and stuff up here,
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but he's a sasquatch tracker and I'm
a lasquatch and he had sent me
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this report and he left the gentleman's
name out. I believe the gentleman in
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the podcast his name was Tim or
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I never knew the witness's name.
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says, hey, this isn't too
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sighting. He's a truck driver.
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the opportunity, you can check it
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live in Homer and this happened and
around the Summit Lake area. So that's
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it's a couple hours away from me, but by Alaska terms, that's relatively
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close. Michael lives about ten and
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in Alaska's close together. So I
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and look around. And we knew
the general area, but we didn't know
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the exact area. And when you're
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mile marker, what did he say? Forty seven? I think I have
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forty one to eight in my report. That's seven miles of I can't get
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out and walk seven miles and look
for tracks in the snow, especially not
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on a busy highway. So so
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headed up there during the day,
drove those mile markers, drove back and
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forth for several hours just looking.
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me, I was crawling looking for
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road. Didn't really see anything.
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area recreating. So he mentioned there's
a couple of big pool outs there in
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the area. Of course, I
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people skiing, there were people snowmobiling. I mentioned in my report, and
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I'd forgotten about this, so I
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I was driving down the road and
I'm like looking up in the woodline and
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I see a figure like dart between
two trees and slam on my brakes and
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I'm looking and it's like a dude
on skis, like ski. Yeah.
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Yeah, so that kind of gave
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remember I even mentioned in my report
he was wearing like a yellow snowsuit or
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something. Definitely a dude. But
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to go up there and check out
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the amount of people that were up
there and were recreating. Like I said,
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though I was there here in the
daytime, there's not probably not a
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lot of people there at two three
o'clock in the morning exactly. One of
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the other things that that kind of
struck me about the areas. If there's
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just man people recreating in here,
I would think that maybe we would get
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more reports out of here. There'll
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if you're out doing winter recreation and
you see some big tracks in the
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snow, you might think, let's
snowshoe tracks or something like that. So
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most people don't have bigfoot on the
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Empton Wood if we went out in
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how maybe something like that wouldn't get
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out doing winter recreation. Another interesting
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episode, Jeremiah. Right around this
area, there is a place called Devil's
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Creek Trail. Oh really, And
that's interesting because there's a lot of places
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with Devil's Lake, Devil's Creek,
Devil's Trail, Scoopum Lake, names like
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that, and they seem to be
areas of you know, bigfoot activity that
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occur in those areas. I told
myself, I'm like, I'm gonna look
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into that and see if i can
find out how that place got its name
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and forgot about it over the years
and haven't went back and researched it.
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But there is a place called Devil's
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I'm gonna have to look up.
I bet you that's in Franzoni's book.
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He's got that great book that goes
over all the like Bigfoot related names like
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all over the US. It's nuts. I'll put that in the show notes
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too as well. There was an
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that trucker where he mentioned that I
believe he went to a small diner or
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cafe and he was talking to an
older gentleman and they had mentioned that there
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was like a cabin that was in
the woods outside of that same area.
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In it they had stories there over
the years that they'd seen Bigfoot around that
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cabin. Is that anything that had
come up as well? Or no,
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I haven't heard that. I did
hear it in your episode. Yeah,
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I know the diner he's talking about
there in Cooper Landing. In fact,
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Cooper Landing, there's a little store
called wild Man's. Oh. I've been
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in there and I asked the lady
work and I was like, Hey,
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is it why and she said no, it's just it's like the nickname of
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the guy that owns the place or
something that's not has anything to do with
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Bigfoot. Sasquatch, a wild man, or anything like that. Coincidentally,
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she did tell me that her sister
had a sighting of Bigfoot and casil Off,
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Alaska, which isn't too far from
here. But yeah, that was
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that was a few years ago,
probably back in It was about the first
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time we went to Port Chattom,
I think in twenty eighteen. But okay,
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but yeah, there's a couple of
places in Cooper Landing that are are
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getting close to Cooper Landing that I've
found tracks and had experiences myself. So
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it's that area. It's good,
it would be good habitat. I think
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if they're around here, they're probably
in that area and probably moved through there
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pretty frequently. That area in your
Summit Lake, it's a pretty good amalgamation
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of a bunch of different You've got
really tall mountains and you've got thick forest,
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and then you've got a few like
wide open flat areas, so there's
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a good mix of terrain in there
and enough cover for them to stay hidden
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if they wanted to. Personally,
I think probably with the amount of people
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that are creating there, they probably
don't live in that particular area year round,
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but they may certainly pass through there. Can you explain to myself and
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listeners that are not Alaska based,
how big the Kenai Peninsula is, maybe
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using like lower forty eight terms or
what is it? Is it huge?
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It's pretty big, but it's not
you can drive it in a couple of
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hours, okay, okay, so
it's doable. It's in fact in abandoned.
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I have the exact measurements. I
think it's how like how long.
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It's something like one hundred and fifty
miles long, and I can't remember how
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long many miles across, But there's
only You've got Keenai, Soldotna, Seward,
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Homer, and then a couple of
little towns peppered around. But other
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than that, it's not very it's
not very there's not a lot of people
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inveing here. It's not very occupied. There's a lot of open space.
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The Kenai National Wildlife Refugees here.
That's several I can't remember if it's tens
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of thousands or hundreds of thousands of
acres. It's huge, So it's there's
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a lot going on here, and
plus some of it, like for me
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to get this, Seward's not as
the crow fly Seward is not that far
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away from me. But I got
to drive around the Hope Pensula pretty much.
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I got to go up through Cooper
landing us to the Why and then
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turn right to go south and go
another It's like, what is it,
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There's four hours for me to get
the Steward something like that. Would you
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consider that peninsula a hot spot or
big foot like I hear there's so many
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things that are Bigfoot related that happen
on that peninsula or is it is that
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kind of just par for the course
in Alaska in general, like you're going
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to have. I wouldn't say it's
a hot spot, but it definitely has
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it has hot spots on it,
it makes any sense. You've got Port
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Chatham, which has its history.
You have the villages a little bit north
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of Port chat I mean, you
have nan Wall, like Port Graham.
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Those places it's almost always you almost
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kind of big Foot story or signing
or something coming out of there, and
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some fairly recent ones too. But
then you come to Homer, not a
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lot going on in horror, there's
not any big Foot sightings around here.
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Homer has been here for a long
time. I think it was officially,
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like I believe the police department was
formed in sixty four or something like that,
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But the town has been here longer, much longer than that, and
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I think probably just the amount of
people here, I guess they just know
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to stay away. It's pretty well
established. Talent's been here for a while.
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Then you got keen Is sold out
and up the road. Not a
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lot of sightings like coming out of
those cities, but once you get out
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of them into the wildlife refuge places
like that, there's activity going on and
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there I believe that's probably one of
the hot spots. And then if you
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head to order to Seward, not
necessarily in Seward, but outside of Seward,
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you know, outside around Area A, that place just an hour or
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two outside of Seward by boat still
on the peninsula, a lot of stuff
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coming out of there. That's where
Area A is. That's where less Strout
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had his heard the pant hooting or
whatever. That actually wasn't very far from
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Area A at all. Stuff like
that. So I wouldn't say you can't
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throw a blanket over the Kenai pensula
and say it's a hot spot, but
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there's definitely spots within the Kenai Peninsula
that you could say those you would have
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a better chance of activity there than
in other places. Has there been a
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time, Beans when you've been out
in the woods and something just crazy has
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happened, Bigfoot related, and you've
been it's almost man, check please.
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I don't know if I want to
be here right now or just anything that
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you're like, wow, this has
been tads. I've had a few things
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happened to me that kind of creeping
me out. One day, I was
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driving through the refuge, the Kenaie
Refuge there, and I'm driving along.
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I'm driving real slow. That's pretty
much just a one lane gravel road,
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and I'm not I don't really have
an agenda in mine. I'm just I'm
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just I'm watching the tree line more
than I'm watching the road. I'm just
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trucking along, crawling along. And
I see this, these two trees,
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two pretty large trees, crossed to
making an X, and I stop and
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I look at them, and I'm
like, I'm gonna I want to go
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look at that, but I don't
want to park right here because it's a
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one lane road. But I knew
there was like a little pull out like
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a couple hundred yards up the road. So I said, I'm gonna go
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up here. I'm gonna pull over, and I'll walk back, and I
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want to check these exits out,
and I wanted to see maybe if they
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were natural or maybe. But one
of the things that I try to look
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for when I find something like that, you know, is it just two
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trees that have just crossed over,
like the one has a root system attached
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and my other one still has a
root system attached, or is it maybe
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one that's been pushed over and then
another one that's brought in from somewhere else
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and placed there. That's that was
what I was looking forward to try and
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decide if it was natural or not. So I go park, get my
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backpack and stuff on, walk back
down towards where I saw the xes,
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keep walking, keep walking looking,
don't see him, and get to the
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point where I'm like, okay,
I know I've gone too far. Turn
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back around, start walking back towards
the truck looking look, no exes,
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and I'm like, I should have
thrown something out of the truck, like
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mark X marks the spot or something. But I'm like, okay, how
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am I overlooking this? These are
two giant trees that were making an X
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formation. How can I not see
this? So I'm like, maybe it's
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because I'm several feet lower than I
was while ago. I was in my
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truck while ago when I saw it. Let's recreate it. So I go
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back, get in my truck,
drive back down to where I know I've
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gone too far, turn around,
drive back through there. Cannot find it
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again. Absolutely, I don't know
what. I cannot explain it. I
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don't know where they went. That's
weird. It wasn't like I just drove
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by and was like, I'm gonna
go back. I stopped, rolled my
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window down, looked, didn't take
a picture. Should have. It's curse
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a big foot. I'm gonna I'm
gonna come back. I'm gonna take it.
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I'm gonna look. I'm gonna want
to walk out. I don't remember
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how far it was, probably it
was less than a hundred yards from the
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road. I'm gonna walk out there. I'm gonna look at those trees because
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I want to see if that looks
natural or if it's something else. Go
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part the truck. I don't know
how long it took me. I wasn't
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in a hurry. Fifteen twenty minutes
maybe a little bit more, came walking
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back and could not find it again. Didn't hear anything, didn't see anything,
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smell anything, but I just could
not find those trees again to save
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my life. Man, that would
mess with me for a while. I
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like, what is going on the
same area a little bit further down the
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road at a campsite. I mean, and my wife were in this campsite.
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It's the only camp site there.
It's my favorite spot. It's right
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next to the lake. And we
were tent camping. And this was back
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like I didn't have my I didn't
have my audio. This is what This
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is why I bought an audio recorder. Something. You go out, something
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happens and you're like, oh,
if only I had this piece of equipment,
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then you go buy that piece of
equipment. It never happens again,
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exactly. So it's like three four
o'clock in the morning, we're snoozing in
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the tent. I wake up the
rollover or something, and I hear just
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this three or four times, this
like roar, whoa. It wasn't close
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to us, it was echo.
It was far away. It wasn't close
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to us enough that I was like
scared, or anything. But it was
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loud and it was I didn't recognize
it, and I just I'm just laying
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there listening to it, and it
doesn't like three times in a row or
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something like that. And I asked
my wife. I didn't even wake her
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up. I didn't nudge her.
I just said, did you hear that?
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And she goes, what was that? And I'm like, I don't
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know. She's born and raised here. I'm not, but I'm pretty familiar
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with the wildlife. And it certainly
didn't sound like a bear. It didn't
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sound like any kind of It was
a roar, slash scream, and it
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was just the weirdest thing. And
like I said, I you know,
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if i'd had a recorder, I
probably would have captured it for sure,
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but I didn't at the time.
I do now, but it was crazy.
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And like I said, she's born
and race here. She had no
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idea what it was. She's like, I didn't sound like a bear.
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Bears have a certain a certain cadence
to him, a certain tone, and
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this didn't really sound like that.
This sounded like it was a cross between
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an animal and a person yelling.
It was a real sound. Man,
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Oh boy, that would Oh,
I have yet to hear vocalization. That's
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going to be quite the day when
that happens. But man, that's probably
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your military and law enforcement background came
into play to you know that. That's
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a good question. That's a good
question. Actually, have you found that
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having that type of background really helps
you out as a bigfoot researcher? Or
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I think it helps me to notice
things maybe other people don't a little bit
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better awareness of my surroundings, or
I notice, oh, hey, look
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there's a branch broken up here or
something, or maybe a couple other people
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have walked under it or something.
Helps in that regard. It helps with
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the hand print. They found an
area eight. We need somebody to swab
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this for us, and they called
me out there to do it because I've
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actually done that in real life before
with criminal cases. I've sent DNA to
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the crime lab for analysis. So
I felt qualified to go out there and
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do it because I've done it in
a real world scenario before. Absolutely.
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Since we're on the topic of Area
A, what do you think is going
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on out there? Man? That's
just the wildest place that holds Alaskan coastal
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Sasquatch from small town monsters, Alex
Petticoff those guys. It looks like a
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wild place, dude. Yeah,
I think Robberry and I were just out
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there. When was it? Was
it last month? Oh, we've been
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out there this year. We went
out there. It was our first trip
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out there this year. We got
to run around a little bit and we
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found some really interesting scat that we
couldn't really identify it. It's funny because
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if you I've got the video of
when we found it, and I walk
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by and I look at it,
and I'm like, hey, Robberty,
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come here and look at this.
And he comes over and he goes,
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you can hear that. It's awesome
because you I've captured him seeing it for
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the first time, and he goes, oh, that looks human. Oh.
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And we get to looking at it
and it's pretty It's not huge by
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any means, but it's definitely what
you would expect to come out of a
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probably a good sized person. And
it has seeds in it, so it's
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probably not human. But it also
it doesn't really look like any bear scat
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that I've ever seen. So I'll
send you some pictures of it, but
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yeah, hey, I could put
those up in the YouTube version. Yeah,
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it's It was definitely some interesting scat, and we ended up collecting it
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because I I've found scat before and
not collected it, and I regretted it,
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so I went we went ahead and
pick them up. And I'm still
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waiting to hear back from somebody on
it. I can't tell you like what
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we found, but I have sent
it to a few people. I had
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Amy Boo show it to her or
what are they called the Zoo Yah Zoo
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book project, had her show it
doesn't and the general consensus with them that
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was probably bear. And I don't
know, Like I said, it doesn't
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like any bear scout I've seen.
I've stepped in a lot of bear scat.
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I've had it on me, and
it certainly didn't look like any bear
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scout that I've seen, But I
don't know what else it could have been.
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It didn't look like wolf scat or
coyote scat, or move scat or
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deer scat or anything else that could
have been in that area. And so
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it was some interesting looking stuff.
Have you ever heard anything out of the
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ordinary there or experienced any weird stuff
happening in area? Yeah, we talk
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about area and all the stuff we've
experienced there, and people that listen they
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might think that it happens all the
time you get there and there's activity up
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to the time to leave. It's
not really like that because we don't talk
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about the times when we're sitting around
on the porch, like drinking a coke
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and nothing's going on. But there
is quite a bit of stuff going on
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out there. One of the last
times I was out there last year,
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I was sitting on the swing and
I was I'd actually been going out there
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quite a bit and hadn't really had
anything happen, and I was actually got
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a little discouraged. I was like, man, the place is beautiful.
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It's amazing. People pay a lot
of money to go out there and spend
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time places like this, but you
know me, I want it all.
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I'm sitting out there. This sucks. Where are the big footing. It's
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like dress, when do we get
to see the dynasas exactly. I'm like
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in this beautiful Alaskan cabin with the
mountains in the background and the sun shining,
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and I'm like, this sucks.
And I was sitting there, and
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I was sitting there on the swing
of the cabin and I was just having
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this a moment where I was like, man, this sucks. There's nothing
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here, there's nothing going on,
and Jeremy, I swear to God,
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I couldn't make this up, like
no sooner had I had that thought.
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And I actually had this thought where
I was like, man, maybe maybe
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I should not come out here as
much and focus on other areas, because
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I was thinking about maybe I should
go out and focus on the refuge a
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little bit more. I swear to
God, Jeremiah. As soon as I
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had that thought, I heard clear
as day a knock behind the cabin up
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in the woods, and I just
I was swinging right on the swing and
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I just hear that and I just
stopped and I didn't hear no one.
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And then I don't know, fifteen
twenty seconds later, an airplane went over,
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not a little little plane, a
big plane. And I was like,
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I wonder if it had something to
do with the plane. Yeah,
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Anyway, I sat out on the
porch like a little bit longer, and
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another plane went over. I didn't
hear a knock, so I was like,
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I don't think that had anything to
do with it. But then I'm
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like, did it have something to
do with me. So I don't know.
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It was just a real weird,
kind of little coincidence. And I
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don't think it was meant to be
a sign or anything. But I took
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it as maybe I'm not done with
there yet, maybe I'll keep heading u
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there. And like I said,
I haven't really been I haven't been completely
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disappointed in a while out there.
It seems like something happens every time I
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go out there, and nothing maybe
nothing major, but something happens. And
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like when me and Robberry went out
there we found that scat. We had
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some really interesting audio recorded that night
while we were sleeping. Yeah, I
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think probably. I think what's happened
is they've maybe the novelty of the cabin
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being there's maybe worn off a little
bit for them. Sure, I don't
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think they I don't think, if
this makes any sense, I don't think
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they're as close to the cabin as
they used to be. I think they
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used to spend a lot of time
watching the cabin. I don't I think
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maybe they don't do that anymore.
And I know the owner cleared some alders
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out by the beach, and that
seems seemed like there was a lot of
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activity in those alders, like rocks
would come flying out all those alders.
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It seems like that doesn't really happen
anymore. So I think maybe once they
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realize they're not they're not going to
bother us. I think they're still around.
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I just don't think they spend as
much time focused on the cabin as
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they used to, and I think
they've realized that it's probably not a threat.
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How long do you guys usually stay
there when you go to visit.
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Usually it depends, but usually two
to four or five days. I think
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five days. It is probably the
longest I've been out there. Be interesting.
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I'm sure there's been Scott has probably
stayed there for an extended period of
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time, though, I would imagine
he's told me what the longest amount of
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time he's been out there is.
I don't remember what it is. I
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want to say it's something like two
weeks. Oh wow, But I'm not
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don't quote me on that. I'm
not ches. I know this year,
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I think there's gonna be somebody out
there pretty much all of June, including
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Alex and I hopefully. Yeah.
Big things coming, for sure, big
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things coming. I had a good
chat with Seth about that when he was
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on a few weeks ago. That
was yeah, oh man, as TM
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is doing some cool stuff in Alaska
in the future, sooner than people realize.
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For sure. We talked about the
handprint a little bit and that was
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really cool because I wasn't expecting yet
to be in that and you came out
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of nowhere. It's like, oh
man, it's I'm digging. It's the
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bean show for a little bit.
This is great and it shows you do
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dusting the fingerprint all that good stuff. Has there been any other info or
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is that kind of a thing where
we may see something from that in the
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future. We just have to hold
on, I think, and I don't
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have like official confirmation on this.
So pick this with a big foot sized
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gras salt. I think that is
probably going to be addressed. And Leger
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meat science too. Maybe. I
don't know. I don't want see.
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I think that's what we're they're gonna
they're gonna handle that. That's awesome which
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is being made now. And hey, even if it's not addressed, we're
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still getting robot baby robot baby big
Foot, which is the best thing that's
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in big footing for years. I
think I want I want to have an
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actual robot baby big Foot. That
would be great. Anyways, I sent
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those swaps to Doug, so hopefully
check. Yeah, they're in good hands,
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and hopefully he does something with them. Oh for sure, I'm sure
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he will. I'm sure he will. Another thing that when a lot of
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people over let's say the last year
or so, if you say Alaska big
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Foot, they're gonna they're gonna think
at port Lock, Right, You've spent
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a lot of time researching it.
I would be really curious to hear it
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from your perspective. Would you be
able to share, like what this story
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area of what happened at Portlock is
and then how you were involved of researching
422
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maybe what you found things of that
nature. So Portlock was a little fishing
423
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village, it was. It's in
Port Chatham. So you're as you leave
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the harbor here and head out in
a Catchmac Bay and turned the corner into
425
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the real ocean and then head down
about forty miles or so when you get
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to the very tip of the peninsula. There's a little bay in there called
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Port Chatham, and inside Port Chatham
is Portlock. A lot of people think
428
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that there was two towns. There
was a town called Port Chatam in a
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town called Portlock. Port Chatham's the
bay and Portlock's the town. And I
430
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.160
actually had that clarified by someone who
lived in Portlock, who grew up there,
431
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so there's no confusion of that.
I still hear people say that every
432
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:07.079
once in a while and I'm like, that's not accurate. And so it
433
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was just a little fishing village.
It had a saw mill, it had
434
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the cannery. And what a lot
of people don't really realize is back then
435
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they didn't have a lot of the
regulations that they do now with fishing and
436
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.320
stuff like that, and it wasn't
really a free for all. But again,
437
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it was a little bit like the
Wild West. And the saw mill
438
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.199
built these like fish traps, and
that's what they used for catching the salmon
439
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.880
in They put them like at the
head of the bays and the creeks and
440
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:45.920
stuff, and they would just swim
into them. And they had the logging
441
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operation that fed the saw mill that
made the traps, and then they were
442
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catching all the fish. So right
there, you've got they were taking the
443
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trees and they were taking a fish. So that right there might be perceived
444
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as a potential threat a resource threat
to any Sasquatch that we're living in the
445
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.800
area. So you start hearing these
stories. I think I don't have my
446
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.320
notes in front of me, but
I believe right around nineteen or eight or
447
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.960
something like that was around the first
time there was an entry in one of
448
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.599
the Canary logs about the guy.
The people didn't want to work because there
449
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.320
was something in the forest that was
like coming into town and bothering the people,
450
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and they actually hired some like Pinkerton
like guards to watch the town while
451
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:46.079
so the people would come in and
work. I spoke with a gentleman whose
452
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grandmother actually worked in the Canary when
she was a little girl. I think
453
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she said or he told her,
and he told me that she was like
454
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eight years old or something like that, said she was making thirty cents a
455
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.840
day or something like that for working
in the cannery. So they didn't have
456
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:13.039
unions or child labor. Yeah,
imagine that, you know, wake up
457
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.599
you're eight years old, and you
get woken up and you're like, all
458
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.199
right, you're not gonna go play
today, You're gonna go work in the
459
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:23.760
cannery man, and you're getting thirty
cents a day. So the town it
460
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.000
was growing, it was bustling.
They were having some good years to fish.
461
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:37.199
And then and the nineteen was it
nineteen forties, you start hearing about
462
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.679
things like there was I know it
was thirty eight, nineteen thirty eight.
463
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.639
You had you had a prospector go
missing. Somebody came in went up into
464
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.800
the hills to look for gold.
He turned up missing. He had the
465
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.159
death of Andrew Camlock, who was
out running a logging operation. They found
466
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.000
him dead. They said that he
was crushed with a piece of logging equipment
467
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.679
that was too big for a man
to lift or a person to lift.
468
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:10.079
And they blame this thing they called
the Nanti knock, which is their version
469
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.559
of a big foot. And I
mentioned this in the book, and it's
470
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:22.360
pretty cool because you know, you
hear nanton knock means big foot, and
471
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.119
technically they say nanton knock means a
giant hairy thing or a big hairy man,
472
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.199
and then you also hear it doesn't
really translate well and there's no official
473
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.679
like translation for it. And that's
my favorite definition is that one is it
474
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:42.800
just doesn't translate well, that we
don't understand what it is. They give
475
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:49.840
it a bunch of different abilities.
The kushtaka and some of the other native
476
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.280
lower creatures. They say it can
shape shift, they say it has red
477
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:59.239
eyes. They say it comes when
it's foggy, it can come on the
478
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:07.440
mist. They give it some supernatural
attributes. And it was a time when
479
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.800
people were uncertain and they were scared. They weren't sure what was going on.
480
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.519
And eventually, by nineteen fifty the
town was abandoned and nobody lived there
481
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.039
anymore. The postmaster, they said, was the last person to leave.
482
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:28.639
Over time, the legs like grew
and got exacerbated. I know on the
483
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:34.280
internet. I can't believe something got
blown out of proportion. Yeah, it
484
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:43.119
got turned into a bigfoot massacre,
which it wasn't. Basically, there was
485
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:49.079
a series of strange and unfortunate events
that they attributed to the NATO knock that
486
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.239
may have been responsible, but there
were also some economic reasons and stuff that
487
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:59.880
led up to the abandonment of the
town. But you still have missing people,
488
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.239
you still have unexplained deaths, you
still have bigfoot signings there. There's
489
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:12.800
there was a gentleman who said that
he saw a big foot walking along the
490
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.719
beach. He said, I was
carrying a club and the gentleman. He's
491
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.639
passed away. Now, he'd passed
away before I read his account. But
492
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.559
I would love to sit down with
that gentleman ask him like why did you
493
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.000
say club and not stick or a
log? Like why did you say he
494
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:36.199
was carrying a club? But yeah, there's just a lot of bigfoot lore,
495
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.000
nanto knockle lore in that area.
And honestly, it may have had
496
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.280
something to do with the town of
being abandoned and people wanting to leave,
497
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.760
But personally, I don't think it
was the main reason. I think it
498
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:54.119
might have been a contributing reason.
A lot of times today Jeremiah with like
499
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:59.960
things. There's no, there's not
there's a lot of divisiveness, there's no
500
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.079
a lot of them. Maybe Okay, this person believes this, and this
501
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.559
person believes that. Maybe he has
a good point and she has a good
502
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.480
point. Maybe there's some truth.
It's got to be this way or it's
503
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.360
got to be that way or yeah
nothing, yeah, And I've heard a
504
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:16.639
lot of people say, oh,
there was no big foot Masaker, then
505
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.480
that whole story is bunk, And
I don't know. Well, there's there's
506
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.280
some good stuff in there. There's
some good scary creepy stuff in the history
507
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:30.360
of Port Chatham, but it's not. It wasn't the big Foot massacre that
508
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:39.039
some people make it out to me, gotcha, maybe not as killer as
509
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:45.719
some people would say. Like I
was saying, though you do have the
510
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.719
resources being depleted. They were taking
the trees, they were catching the fish.
511
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:58.280
If there was like a perfect storm, yeah, for to create angry
512
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:04.280
big Foot, but to create a
avenging Batman Bigfoot, it would have been
513
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.920
that time and probably that place because
there. I think it's a very good
514
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.639
environment for them. Honestly, it's
not a hop, skip and a jump
515
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:21.039
away from Area A, but it's
not beyond the realm of possibility to believe
516
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.280
that you could walk to Area A
from there. It would take you a
517
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.960
long time, but it could happen. It's a lot of the same terrain.
518
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.360
There are some like glaciers and stuff
you would probably have to cross over.
519
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.239
I don't I don't think it would
be I'm not gonna say human couldn't
520
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.119
do it, but it would be
very difficult. But it's not beyond the
521
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.639
realm of possibility. They're connected by
land. It's just a lot of land
522
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:55.679
in between them, so there's actually
there's a documentary that you had. I
523
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:02.000
believe it was you with Stephen Major
that had put together about the expedition to
524
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.679
go out there as well. People
can read your book, but they could
525
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:15.960
also watch it on certain platforms as
well. Did you notice anything once you
526
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.599
actually got there in person, you
set foot in the area. Was there
527
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:27.920
anything that stepped out to you that
you hadn't really made the connection before you'd
528
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:31.320
been able to go there in person? There was, there were It was
529
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.280
an amazing experience. It was one
of those things that I wish I could
530
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:40.119
go back and experience it again for
the first time, just stepping off the
531
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:49.480
boat and getting there and then just
realizing how wild it is and how thick
532
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:53.199
the forest it. We're walking through
there, we're bushwhacking, and I'm thinking,
533
00:42:53.280 --> 00:43:00.480
like, how in the hell I
couldn't imagine going there today and building
534
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.920
a town like it? Just to
me, it would just see these people.
535
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.880
They didn't have chainsaws, they didn't
have you know, they didn't have
536
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.079
heavy equipment, they didn't have four
wheelers, they didn't have anything that we
537
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:17.719
would take over there with us to
help make any kind of endeavor like that
538
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.920
easy. And You've got to think
these people are showing up, probably with
539
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:28.239
like axes and rope and just whatever
they and they're building houses and they're clearing
540
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.400
trees and they're they're just making this
place. They're civilizing this place, putting
541
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.599
the village here. And I can't
imagine doing that today with today's technology.
542
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.199
Just how what an undertaking that would
be, just how thick it is and
543
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:49.800
how unforgiving the terrain is. And
that was one of the things that really
544
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.920
struck me. It was just like, man, I can't believe this place
545
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.559
was ever a town, just as
wild as it is. And then we're
546
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.239
walking along through there. We're walking, and then we do we find we
547
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.679
start finding structures with a few remaining
like structures over there. And then that
548
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.360
was another sober and momental Man,
somebody lived here. This was somebody's like
549
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:15.440
house, and that's crazy to think
that somebody was was probably born there and
550
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:22.559
then moved away. And here it
sets still today, and it survived the
551
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.360
nineteen sixty four earthquake, it survived
a few bigger earthquakes we've had since then,
552
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.679
and it's just neat to see that. And then they have the machinery
553
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:36.719
still there from the cannery, the
canneries all gone okay, but you can
554
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.199
see that some of the machinery.
And it's interesting because we were walking along
555
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.159
the beach and we find this section
of beach it's kind of littered with like
556
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.400
old, rusty like equipment, and
they're like, that's weird. How did
557
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.079
that get here? It's just here
on the beach. Then when you walk
558
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.280
around and you walk up on the
cliffs above the beach there you can see
559
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.800
what's happening is the water, you
know, the ocean is eroding that cliff
560
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:06.639
face, and that equipment is still
up there on that cliff, and that
561
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.079
equipment that's on the beach has fallen
through erosion. It's fallen off the cliff,
562
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.239
and there's still some stuff up there. There's still some equipment up there,
563
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.599
and we got we got some footage
and some pictures of it. But
564
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.599
eventually, like and another fifty hundred
years, that stuff's probably gonna be gone
565
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.000
too, because it's just gonna fall
off into the ocean. That's wild man.
566
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:31.760
Yeah, listeners, if if you're
not aware of what we're talking about,
567
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.679
you gotta hit up some of the
links I got in the show notes,
568
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.280
and you gotta check his book out. And check out that documentary as
569
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:46.599
well. It's a it's a fascinating
look at something you may have seen another
570
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.079
way, and it'll be worth your
time for sure. And you know how
571
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.880
there's people that that kind of focus
on area history and they're like civil war
572
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:01.559
buffs or they're they're like maritime you
know buffs or something like that. They
573
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:09.679
just they focus on a specific era
or a specific thing in history, traveling,
574
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:16.559
carnivals or something like that's the area. There's a section of history buffs
575
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:23.639
that you'll find, particularly around Alaska, Southeast Alaska, Washington, and scattered
576
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:29.480
along the coast in Canada that focus
a lot on the history the fishing and
577
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:34.639
cannery history. And during there was
a lot of cannaries that would just they
578
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.119
would pop up and they would last
for a year or two and then they
579
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.079
would go away, or they would
move or something would happen, and there's
580
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:44.679
a lot of these like history buffs. That's what they focus on, is
581
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:51.360
like cannary history. And the thing
is, though there's almost no information about
582
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.440
the Port Chatham Cannery, there's a
little bit and you can look at it
583
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:01.400
and find some stuff. I found
some actually some pretty cool property records when
584
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.719
I was doing my research, I
found like a bill of sell somebody bought
585
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:13.400
the pool hall for a dollar or
something. That was probably one of those
586
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.159
They won it in a card game
and they had to do the bill of
587
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.239
sale, but they had to put
an amount on there, so they did
588
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.119
a dollar. But yeah, there's
not a lot of information out there about
589
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.599
the cannery or the company. And
from what I understand, when the cannery
590
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.199
closed here, they moved down to
Washington and opened up. I think it
591
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.199
might even call the Portlock Cannery down
and Washington. They might still be around
592
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.920
for all I know, But there's
just like a gap in the history for
593
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.440
when they were in Port Chat.
There's not a whole lot of information.
594
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:54.800
Very interesting. Is there anything right
now that has you awake at night that's
595
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:02.920
keep keeping you awake to do with
big Foot that you're currently researching. I
596
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:09.000
think about that handprint a lot,
and what the what the what the results
597
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.239
of those swabs are going to be? Yeah? Yeah, for those that
598
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.199
haven't said, I believe it's the
Lasting Coastal sund squash, I believe it's
599
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:22.679
part two. Yeah, Alex and
his buddies are at the cabin out there
600
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.960
at the area A and Alex is
walking. I think he's walking back from
601
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.559
to the cabin from being up in
the woods behind the cabin. It just
602
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:35.880
happens to see this handprint on the
back of the cabin, and it was
603
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.079
it was a pretty good It was
a good print. You could see dermal
604
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:45.480
ridges. It was a good site. It wasn't huge, it was within
605
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.280
the human range. But it was
a big hand. It was bigger than
606
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:58.159
my hand, which I have skinny, little girly fingers, but it was
607
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:05.039
bigger than my hand. I'm pretty
big guy. And so they took a
608
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.960
lot of pictures of it, and
they wanted to swab it, and they
609
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:15.079
called me in to do the swabbing, and I went in and use some
610
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.800
some swabs that I like to use
back in my police career. They're called
611
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:25.159
capture swabs, and they have a
little plastic tube at the top, so
612
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.880
after you swab something, you can
close the tube and the swab is protected.
613
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.559
That way you don't have to worry
about, you know, like hitting
614
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:37.079
something else with it. I collected
a bunch of those and some off the
615
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:42.719
Doug Hicheck and we're awaiting the testing
of those. And that's I would say.
616
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.559
If anything with Bigfoot keeps me awake
in hind it's wondering what's going to
617
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.840
come back with those I know,
Doctor Meldrum is pretty convinced it's a human
618
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:57.639
print, and like I said,
it's certainly not beyond the size or of
619
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.920
range for a human print, but
it's really weird in the area it was
620
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:07.159
at and I just can't explain how
it got there. It doesn't make a
621
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.280
whole lot of sense. It was
probably about I don't remember the exact measurements,
622
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.639
but it's like five or six feet
off the ground. It's right underneath
623
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the bunk room window where they've had
some stuff go on before. You know,
624
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the story of the cooler remind me. So this room where they found
625
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:35.639
on the outside of the cabin where
they found this hamdprint. That room before
626
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:40.880
the cabin was finished. They had
it was framed up and they had kind
627
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.440
they were starting to wall it in
and it didn't have a front door,
628
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.840
so they had like a little wood
like I don't know, the two some
629
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.400
two by fours or something they were
making. They had a little ramt going
630
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:58.719
up into that room and it didn't
have a door. So at night when
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00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.320
they go to sleep, they just
put this piece of drywall. I don't
632
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.440
know if it's drywood, drywall re
applywood, but they put it up to
633
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.320
close that off, and they'd slide
this big yetdy cooler in front of it.
634
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:16.920
And this is one of those big, yety cooler like you could put
635
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:22.519
a body in it. Wow,
it's it's it takes two people to carry
636
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.239
it. It's one of it's probably
it's four foot or something. It's a
637
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.039
big cooler. It's an awesome cooler
too. It keeps stuff cold for days.
638
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.039
Anyway, they would slide that cooler
up there and it was full.
639
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.480
I had a bunch of meat and
stuff in it for their meals for a
640
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.960
while. I where this is.
They didn't have electric or anything out there
641
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:49.079
yet, so they had that door
sealed off with that piece apply wood.
642
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.760
They had to cooler propping that piece
of wood up there. And there's a
643
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:58.280
couple of guys sleep in that room. This one morning, it was like
644
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:05.440
three four o'clock in the morning something
like that. Something outside the cabin pushes
645
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:13.119
on that that makeshift door. That
that cooler that probably weighs anywhere from between
646
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:17.639
forty and sixty pounds, slides across
the room and hits the wall on the
647
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:24.159
other side. The makeshift door falls
in and people start yelling. The guys
648
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.519
in the room they start yelling,
go away, bear, go away bear.
649
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.320
They can't see anything, but they're
assuming it's a bear. And then
650
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:36.960
as everybody's getting scott actually the owner
of the cabin actually comes running out of
651
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.760
his bedroom with the shotgun and he's
got to run like around the cabin to
652
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.960
get to that room. And he
says he's running around the cabin to get
653
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:51.039
in there. He hears sum up
the hill. Oh man, So that
654
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.599
room where that happened, that's the
room where the handprint was found on the
655
00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:01.400
outside of the cabin. That's awesome. That's a really cool additional story to
656
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:10.719
know about that. Yeah, that's
very cool. It'll be very interesting to
657
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:17.840
see what info comes out in the
future about that, hopefully. But I've
658
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:23.079
got a left field question for you
beans. I've talked to a few people
659
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:30.119
about Alaska things over the last year. Head an episode where it talked to
660
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:38.760
a gentleman. It was about southeast
Alaska. But I'm just curious at you've
661
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:44.280
researched a lot on the Kenai Peninsula. Have you ever run into anything to
662
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:51.360
do with four toad Bigfoot. No, I haven't helped you four toad tracks
663
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:58.000
or toad anything. Okay, cool. Supposedly if you do, you want
664
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:02.119
to watch your back because they're super
They're the ultimate and aggressive Bigfoot, so
665
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:09.199
watch out for sure. It was
the stories that he was sharing. It
666
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:16.119
was on in Clook on Southeast Alaska. Oh. Is that the Salvation Army
667
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.039
guy? Yeah? Yeah, he's
a cool dude. Yeah, you heard
668
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:25.480
that one. Very nice guy.
Man. I am. I have a
669
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:32.239
feeling that we might be seeing more
of you in the future, and I
670
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.800
hope you show up in some of
the STM stuff we'll see. But well
671
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:40.440
I should, I should be in
some of the stuff they're gonna do this
672
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.119
trip coming up in June. Both
Alex and myself are going to be speakers
673
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.719
at the Boy Real Bigfoot Expo June
tenth and eleventh. I don't know if
674
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.239
it's coming out before or after that, but that's going to be in Fairbanks,
675
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.400
and we're really look it's going to
be the second one we've done.
676
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:02.960
Doctor Meldrum's going to be there.
Jonathan Redbird over from the Unsolved Mysteries.
677
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.760
He's one of the Novajo Rangers.
I'm looking forward to sitting down with him
678
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.320
and telling cops stories. I think
that's gonna be fun. Dude. Oh,
679
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.119
that would be a great episode if
you could. Oh, man,
680
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.840
that's a podcast episode. I don't
know. We're gonna be doing a live
681
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.400
podcast from the expo. I haven't
really decided what we're gonna do it about,
682
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.280
you know, because on one hand, I'm like I could sit down
683
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.599
and because I've got some a lot
ask a big Foot questions, I'd like
684
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.480
to ask Doctor Meldrum. Oh for
sure. Man. So I don't know
685
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.760
what we're gonna do, but they're
gonna be at some point. We're gonna
686
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:43.000
be recording a live podcast during the
expo, and we're gonna have a big
687
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.960
speakers panel at the end. There's
gonna be a Canadian gentleman there. I'm
688
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.280
not super familiar with him, Red
Grossinger. Apparently he's written a couple of
689
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.920
books. I think he maybe he's
a retired military gentleman. I believe he
690
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:58.880
okay, is from the Yukon,
or maybe he lives in the Yukon now
691
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.280
some ploy Yeah I've heard this.
Yeah, I've heard a little bit about
692
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:04.760
him. Yep, that would be
very interesting. I need to look more
693
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:10.119
into him for sure. What's his
name is? Subarctic Sasquatch. Fred Rowell's
694
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:14.679
going to be there. That guy's
cool, man. Yeah, he's an
695
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.519
interesting guy. Oh jeez. And
Rob Roy I think this is Rob Roy's.
696
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.960
I think this is his first appearance
at a conference that he's going to
697
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:28.400
be He's going to be a speaker
and he's gonna be have a booth and
698
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.400
be selling his bigfoot art. But
man, it's gonna be awesome. Get
699
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:37.679
together. That conference is the one
that's one of the ones that definitely go
700
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.599
to this year, is what it
sounds like for sure. And Michael Thompson,
701
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.880
a sasquatch tracker, the one that
ordered me to report to summit.
702
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:51.440
Like there he is going to be
speaking and he's going to be giving a
703
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:58.360
track casting workshop. Whoa really Yeah, dude, that's a legit man,
704
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.360
Oh my goodness. Definitely going to
have the info for that in the show
705
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.280
notes. I'm pretty sure this will
come out before then too, so people
706
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:12.039
can check it. I'll make sure
that it does. Says. I'm a
707
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:17.519
one man thing. I can make
that happen. Beans. It's been really
708
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:24.360
fun chatting with you. This has
been long overdue I definitely hope to catch
709
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:29.599
up with you again in the future, But can you take a few minutes
710
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:36.920
and remind people how they can keep
up to date with all the cool Alaska
711
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.960
big foot stuff that you're doing up
there. Oh, I have a website,
712
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.440
a Last Watch podcast dot com.
You can go there. You can
713
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:49.400
listen to the last episode. You
can there's links to my videos in there.
714
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.360
I've got a little store where you
can pick up my books. If
715
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.280
you want autograph copies, that's where
you need to pick them up, or
716
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.119
find me at a conference. I've
got a band in the History of Horror
717
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:05.559
Chatham. I've got Squatch cop which
is how to guide how to collect evidence
718
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.000
and document. It felt like there
was maybe a little bit of a It
719
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:13.760
was just a little bit of a
gap in the big foot community with stuff
720
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:19.800
like that. There's a lot of
good encounters and stories, but there's not
721
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.960
a lot of good instruction manuals out
there on how to do stuff like that,
722
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.119
like what happens when you go out
in the woods and you do find
723
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:30.039
something? Oh yeah, sure.
And my newest book, which just came
724
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:35.079
out today. I actually just got
my copies like five minutes before we jumped
725
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.639
on here. I have justice,
Morale and other fairy tales, a lasting
726
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:45.239
cop stories. It's there's fifty stories
in here, fifty short stories for my
727
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.760
time and uniform. Some of them
are funny, some of them are just
728
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.920
give you a little insight into what
it's being like a cop in Alaska,
729
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:59.159
and some of them are just a
little weird. There's some stories that were
730
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.559
passed on to me from other police
officers that I just felt like, Man,
731
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:07.519
this needs the this needs to we
need to carry the story off.
732
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:13.920
We've got a document this for prosperity's
sake. So there's a couple of stories
733
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.559
in there that I think are just
classic stories that I wanted to keep keep
734
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:22.599
out there and keep people up talking
about and entertained with. So that just
735
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.679
came out. So it's not on
my website yet, but it'll probably will
736
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:32.679
be by Monday or Tuesday. And
a very good Yeah, it's been great
737
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.239
chatting with you, beans, and
thank you so much for coming on,
738
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:38.840
dude, thank you for having me
man. I love I love talking about
739
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:52.480
Alaska and big Foot. It's my
favorite two things. You'd like to make
740
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.760
a special one time donation to big
Foot Society. You can head on over
741
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.159
to to buy me a coffee page. I'd like to shout out Brian Corbin
742
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:05.840
this week for buying five coffees which
will greatly help with our upcoming trip to
743
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:10.199
Monsterfest and beautiful Canton, Ohio.
His message says, can't wait to hear
744
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:15.480
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745
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.599
is also a member. Rock on, Brian, You're a great guy.
746
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.840
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747
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:28.880
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751
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