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Attacked at Bigfoot Ridge – Ohio Camper Speaks Out | Archives

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Season 1

What happens when a weekend camper decides to visit Salt Fork’s legendary Bigfoot Ridge during the Ohio Bigfoot Conference — and ends up facing the unknown just feet from his tent?



In this terrifying and unforgettable episode, we speak with “E,” a Bigfoot believer turned knower, who recounts a chilling class B encounter during an overnight stay at Salt Fork State Park. From raccoons stealing Chipotle to bloodcurdling grunts in the dead of night, what started as a peaceful evening ended in primal fear.



You’ll hear how a glowing red tent, a Mr. Heater, and an unlucky woodland creature triggered one of the most intense Bigfoot vocalizations ever heard — and how BFRO investigators camping nearby confirmed they heard it too. E also shares encounters from Coshocton County, details on massive prints in frozen ground, and explains why Ohio might just be America’s Bigfoot hotspot.



This isn’t just a campfire story. It’s what happens when the forest fights back.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big Fit Society. We've

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got the privilege of talking to E today. He is

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an individual that reached out to me through email from

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central Ohio about some things that he's experienced in that state.

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So it's a pleasure to talk to you tonight. E.

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I'm going to go ahead and hand it right over

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to you. Sarah, thank you for being here tonight.

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Yeah, thank you for having me. I'd like to stay

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up on since a while. I guess I've always been

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abliever now a kind of a knower. Had to type

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be our class be exciting, pretty pretty, I guess Volger

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you'll say that happened to me never, never will forget it.

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So obviously living a while Grassman is the terminology. Didn't

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even know about the Grassmen until I moved to Ohio

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about over ten years ago. In so Forth State Park

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is like the mecca of it all, and told me

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I always want to go out there and check it out.

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This situation happened to me April twenty ninth of twenty

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twenty two. I know that because it was OHI bien

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for ohiped for conference and I'll want to go. I

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want to meet people. I knew, you know, all the

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big names in a bigfoot community. We're going to be

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there and just and it's like, you know, the place

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to be for Ohio. So the place that my situation

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happened was a spot called Bigfoot rich It was Campsite

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number six. I'll never never forget it, still go there

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to this day. So it was on Friday nights. Got

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there kind of late, probably about eight o'clock, nine o'clock

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and it's still kind of like that sunsetting about six.

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So I was putting on my camp got off work

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setting everything up in the middle of the kind of

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like darkness. How to use my headlamp to put it up.

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And then it was going to get cold that day too,

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so I got my mister heater got everything I needed.

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So after after I set everything up, I had Chipotle

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and a chipole and I forgot I left it outside

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and raccoons were I could hear little footsteps coming in

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and whoever was at the whibigfoot conference. I even told

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the story to them Mark who runs it to everybody

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that year as well too. That fall on Sundays, So

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if you were there, you know who I am, what

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I looked like, and everything else. So yeah, fast forward

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to you know, raccoon's coming in and out of my

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camp and this is about two o'clock and they kind

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of just served me de side of the unzip my zipper,

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kind of scam away and used the bathroom. Also to

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mention there are people from the BFROL They were campin

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that night around me. Later found that out they were

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from New Jersey. They drove allway from New Jersey to

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a while to experience the Lopiens for conference. So they

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went out for a night investigation. So it's about two thirty.

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Now I'm going out to relieve myself and they're coming

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back from a night hike. They had their red lambs

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and everything, and so I knew I wasn't the only

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one up during that time, so decided to go. Because

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they're coming back from the cars and have their head

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lamps and going into their tents, and I'm going back

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to my tent as well. So I'm kind of surmounded

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by people. If you've ever been at both Biffer Rich

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there's a brush line near the connector by that sign

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if you're pulling in and be on your right hand side,

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and campsite number six. Like I said, so I had

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a red tent, had my mister here. It was going

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to be in the thirties. And so I hear this raccoon,

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like I said, they're coming in and out, in and

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out here go back to the brush line, and they're

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taking food that I left out chipole. They kind of

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hear rolling through some other stuff as well, and here

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nibbling like and you can hear it's like a small

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creature of raccoon, possums upon that nature. And as the

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miss is this animals eating whatever it was, small rodents,

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naturnal animal, I hear it die like like I hear

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it like like it's fighting for his life, like somebody's

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attacking him. And I'm like, okay, I'm thinking I'm trying

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to be logical, like a coyote fox something like that.

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You know that'd be could kill like a preada or

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some type of predator the only predators we have, or

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black beer. But we only got like a population of

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one hundred you know who. It's not like Tennessee was.

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It's in the thousands. So so yeah, by all woke

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like this animal die and so forth. Decided to turn

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on my mister heater to keep me warm. Say, thirty

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degrees came a little bit colder in the nap from

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the brush line. I heard, and I was like, did

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I just hear that? And it was all because I

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turned on my mister heater and my whole tent lit

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up from being red. And I heard it the third

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time and it blew me away. And the third time

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at first time I turned it on, the missig heat

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is weirder because it's like connor clockwise to turn it off,

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like I said, it was the first time, I'm using

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it two and such. Like I said, I turned it on.

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I didn't believe, but I heard and then it happened

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again the second time, and I had it on the

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low setting and it got super loud when I accidentally

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turned it from low to high and I was trying

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to turn it off. I mean, the loans on this

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stage it was like and I'm laying on my back too,

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like laying on my back, and I'm like, it's not

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even ground level, and I'm like, this thing is up

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like if I was a stand up, like you know,

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six feet plus, like I'm trying to because I'm trying

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to get distance from a distance and how high up

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it is and I'm like that that sounds it's like

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taller than me. And I can't even do justice of

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with the grunts and so forth. So in my mind,

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like I'm thinking, did I just disturb a big foot kill?

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And I didn't even hear it come up. And I'm

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thinking thinking to myself, if this was a black bear

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like it would it would have it should have went

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through my camp, which it didn't, should go to other

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people's camps, but it didn't. You hear it slowly like

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crunch crunch, crunch away. But for something that big, I

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should you to come up to the brush line. And yeah,

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it pretty much ambush whatever that was. It was a

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raccoon or possum or whatever. But I didn't hear it.

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I mean, I didn't hear anything until it made to kill,

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Like I could hear that little animals and then it

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just like if you ever heard like a like like

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a calf, not a calf fight, but something fighting for

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his life. And then he could tell a small like

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a dog or like a dog fight or whatever. And

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so yeah, something is I mean, I'm up by then

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turn on my my mister heater, my tense red. And

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I heard the grunts and I didn't believe it, and

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I heard it again, and I'm thinking to myself, is

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this is this the vocalization that people? Is this what

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it sounds like? And it clearly is directed towards me

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because I'm the only one that they had to like

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litup the tents. I mean I when I went out

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to use the bathroom prior, nobody else had the TN

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lit up at all. So and that red on red

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really glowed up the area. And I'm probably like twenty

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twenty yards five yards pretty close to our brush line.

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I know that because I played football, so I like,

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you know, first downs and all that. So yeah, I'm

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pretty close. It's this thing. I mean, it could have

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been on me right right then and there, and luckily

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it didn't. And the third grunt, because I was trying

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to from load, I actually journey to low to hide,

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and so hit grunted. So I didn't get a look

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asleep all night. I know what was gonna happen next,

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I was gonna come back. I didn't at all, And

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so as soon as daybreak, as soon as daybreak, I

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go back. So the Central Islands on one stity, that's

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really an essential. So so go back to Columbus. My wife,

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all of us gonna spend the night there, like you know,

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the morning in the laud come home. And I even

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come to her and said they're out there. I said,

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they're out there. She said, I look like I've seen

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a ghost, like I. I yeah, my pain my skins.

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You know, I'm African American, and I'm just kind of

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like lost pigmentation. I guess a little bit in my skin,

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fair skin like African. So so I I guess I

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look whitish and pale. Scared. Kept me playing that over

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and over in my head that night, kept listening and listening,

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didn't hear anything, but I did hear it, like by

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Peter walk Away. So I just left everything there, you know,

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I was just gonna come back and get it. And

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so because I just there's no way I was gonna

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sleep out there, I needed some sleep. So my son

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had a sarcer game anyways, so I decided to go

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later that afternoon. So the April twenty ninth, that Friday

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night was cacast technically is April thirtieth, two thirty in

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the morning, So April thirtieth the next one because the

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week in the Bigfoot Converversus just a weekend thing. So

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later go to the afternoon and I pull up and

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the BFM people from New Jersey came to me immediately

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after I got in my car and asked me, did

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you hear anything? And I said, yeah, two thirty in

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the morning. They're like yeah. So that gave me validation

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that I wasn't the only winner, and it was I

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don't know what else. In a while, the biggest thing

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we really really got is well white tailed deer and

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a hundred hunder bear roughly black bear. And I mean

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the place is notorious for obviously big foot and grass,

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so yeah, I mean I what validated for me was

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after we playing it over and over and over my

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head was the fact how high up those vocals and

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I can tell if it's ground level or not. You

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can tell if this is six feet or more. You know,

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you know from the treat light. So it definitely was.

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And what runs at you and like walks away And

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there was nobody with flashlights, nothing like that. So if

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it was, if it was a bear, it should have

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went through everybody's stuff. It didn't. It was particular. It

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had a mission, it completed a mission, and I think

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I deserved part of its mission. That's why I got

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those vocalations directly towards me. And yeah, yeah, So share

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with my experience that with helping for conference that Sunday,

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whereas it's like a town hall meeting that Mark Coles,

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I can't remember my last name, where he's pretty much

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runs a sort of let everybody there in front of

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Nanny Cliff, doctor Meldroom, even a moneymakers World too. Do

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Ginny was there as well, so John as well. I'll

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see John quite a bit when I go there. So

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so I after that happened, I was like, I'm never

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don't need to go back don't need to. I was scared,

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Like it took me months. They even built up the

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courage because like I said, this is COVID, the ending

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and ending of COVID, And you know, I was always

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curious about it. And before I was hiking, that was

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my first time spending the night there. And you know

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there's a map of I guess where all other sightings

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has happened as well. And I wanted to go to

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a primitive site and it's a primitive spot throughout the park,

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the snow running waters, electricity, and yeah, I've done hikes

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there where I've seen footprints in March which is still

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like thirty degrees and I wear a size a little

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boot and the width, the length, the depth, the depth

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is like incredible that something can leave an impression like

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that in frozen ground. The heel print like when you

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step like heel first, toe second, and the heel was

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somewhat deeper. The heel leaves the bigger impression because that's

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where all the weight goes, and it's is the earth

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which as it rolls it up. I got pictures of

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that Conshocton County went on the high control there. This

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is probably like a year or so ago ing season.

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It sounds I'm walking there's deer everywhere. I think Constocton County,

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in Jersey County they got the biggest kills deer deal

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Caro kills. You're in your al plenty of food and

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those two kind of kind of touch each other, aboard

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each other, and so yeah, fall obviously deer season. Walking

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down this trail fire like, and there's houses on my

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right hand side, not houses. I was a farm, a farm,

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but the loudest like Louisville, Celever not ever. And oh,

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I do a lot of hyping, hope when I get lucky,

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Like I said, to build some time after this. The

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situation happened to me in two thousand and two, and

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this not probably happened last year last fall, So there

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was some courage to go back out there and heard

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that's what. I don't know what else I mean, It

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wasn't It was so early in the morning, it was

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like seven thirty in the morning, and I'm like, who's

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building anything? And it wasn't repetitious knocking. There was just

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one solid like power and that was it. It wasn't

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a like, it wasn't even a tree falling over because

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you were with crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, fall over. It

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wasn't even that so I had a walker stick. I

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tried to knock back nothing, but I saw when I

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saw the deer on that day, that day, this is

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like last fall. It felt like a knock, like someone's here.

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The grunts. I'm going back to the grunts. I'm sorry,

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I'm all over the place because the grunts felt like

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someone's saying, hey, hey, knock it off, like that's what

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That's what it felt like, cut it like, cut it out,

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knock it off type grunts. And I didn't act fast enough.

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Of the grunts are probably a second apart, and the

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third one just got pretty pretty pretty low like it

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escalated and I couldn't get that mister year shut off

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fast enough. So I mean, I've I still go out.

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I reached out to Harley Owens let him know that

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I am. It's pretty close six hours away. Two I

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heard them. I've seen the impressions they leave on Earth,

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and I do I do one day I want to

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have a class. Obviously, I don't want to if I'm

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going to have a class A, you know, if I

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have my pickings of something that is I can go

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home that day. But so, yeah, so far I had

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those Class B and they were never never forget and yeah,

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I mean they're definitely here. I mean, I don't know

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what else, what else could leave that type of type

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of front in the middle of the night, and yeah,

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it's yeah, it has to be.

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So that's that's very interesting, that whole situation happening that weekend.

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Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?

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Yeah, yeah, So.

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You leave early in the morning to go back to Columbus,

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which is under an hour and a half, is right,

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and then you go back to get your stuff. Now,

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when you went back to the campsite to get your stuff,

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you know, did you notice signs of a struggle? How

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you know you were saying, like that raccoon or whatever

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it is got taken out or did you see any evidence?

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So yeah, So one of the guys from how I

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knew it from Bilfarro because he had a Berfarro aad on,

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and and I talked to him and they told me

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they were from New Jersey. And there was this one

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particular skinny lady, red hair, pink hair that we went

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back there to look to see like a tussle. This thing.

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It sounded like a gut a hold of and it

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was like you know how if you pick up a

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wild cat's trying to get out of your arms, and

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I think, I think this like snapped his neck, twisted something,

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and that was the end the bed. So it wasn't much.

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It wasn't even tusseling. Really, it was like I snatch up.

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It wasn't like the bushes weren't, you know, rumbling around

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the leaves, none of none of that. It's like like

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I said that that animal that was eating my chipotle

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was occupied, yall, And I don't thinking to my that night,

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I'm thinking, what a perfect opportunity to ambush animal in

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the midst of it, you know, being occupied eating this food,

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you get behind it or and get it. So I'm thinking,

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what do we have in a while that can do that.

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I'm like, possibly fox, coyote. But they're not going to

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leave those vocalizations like how I heard, or bared for

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that matter, because they don't go like they this is

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a growl and a grunt. And this is definitely a grunt, right,

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And it was immediate.

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So you you said you heard, you actually heard like

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bipuedal footsteps as well afterwards.

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Yeah, it was odd. It was. It sounded like a

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sneak sneak up. I mean, I mean when I say

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it sounds like the fact that I didn't hear it

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come the fact that I didn't hear it. And it

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was it was large. It was large. It was and

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it was And I'm laying on the ground and I

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can hear it like six feet up. And I'm being

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conservative when I say that too. When I say six

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feet up, I'm like a minimum of six street, like

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a minimum of that. I'm glad I got the validation

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from the people from the UFR telling me, hey, did

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you they I couldn't. They came out. I couldn't get

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out the car fast enough without them coming towards me, right,

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and and and the lady he heard it, the skinning

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girl from New Jersey. The guy with the BFR had on.

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He said he fell asleep. I mean when they went

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in their ten and after I got done doing number one,

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it happened ten minutes thirteen at the most. And I'm

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thinking that they like, you know, when you're in the

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woods and if you're looking for a bigfoot like they were,

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you're gonna want to stay up a little as long

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as you can, especially just got into your tenth So

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for him to say that, yeah, I fell asleep, I

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was like, man, you fell asleep less than ten minutes

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fits and I was kind of like, there's no way

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you tell it. And then here and that. I was

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like that that didn't that didn't like wake you up

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at all, Like you're I can understand if you're going

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slowly to sleep. But so he was kind of bummed out.

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He didn't hear it a little bit if you did.

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And other people were saying that, yeah, there was a

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lot of animal activity, which makes sense because there's a dumpster.

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There was the prime opportunity for them to get into

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the trash cans after the people leave or you know

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this camps But yeah, big Foot Big for Ris is

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obviously a hospital. Whoever's been there knows about it. So yeah,

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they've been saying throughout the osport.

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Can you can you share it? Just in case listeners

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don't know? Do you can you share any information about

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why that area is called big Foot Bridge.

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The story that I know of is that there was

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a picnic area before they made it a campsite, and

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I think John has said this on one of his

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podcasts on YouTube, or he was telling the store as

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somebody was is that. I guess this is going back

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to the eighties maybe early nineties, that some a tool

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stepped out. Man. I think it was a handicap like

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picnic area. So and then they converted into a campsite eventually,

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a primitive campsite. Like I said, it didn't doesn't have

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any electricity or running water or anything like that. And

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I guess when they named it, they named it Bigfoot Ridge.

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There's a sign up ford and everything. You can look

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good up on Google. I guess once like it was

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being known as the hot spot of Ohio in a sense,

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they decided to name it biffoot Ridge.

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Absolutely, a Salt Fork State Park is a huge, huge

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bigfoot area for people that aren't aware. It's also the

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site of the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, as you said earlier.

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But were there any other reports from that night or

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weekend of other people in other areas having big foot interaction?

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So the place there's a horse there's a horse camp area.

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Everybody everybody that has courses I likes to go over

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there as well too. And there's a lot of bridle trails.

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It's like four or five. While I like, it's a

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great place if you want to go for long hikes.

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I do now just to see what I can see.

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I think the next thing for me is like possibly

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smelling them. Never I didn't smell anything. I did get

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asked the question did I felt sick? I remember tell

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my story at the conference and one one guy came

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up to me, did you feel sick? And I said, no,

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I didn't feel nauseous because I heard of ultrasound with

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the aggression of the vocalization towards me. Because I turned

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on my mister here and just lit up the place

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with my red tent, and so I just kind of

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gave it like a you know, a glow. It lit

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it up for sure, and that's why I think I

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didn't hear it. It was certainly trying to be stealthy

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and me lighting up the tent, you know, like somewhat

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cover so and so. Yeah, I mean it was definitely

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towards men. I mean, like I said, it happened a

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second as soon as they're turning on the mystic here.

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But other people did the There was another lady from

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New Jersey from the bfrol By. Like I said, the

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horse camp. There's the orange trail that kind of begins there,

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so to speak. There's like the white trail, Blue trail,

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Purple trail, Orange trail. They saw two sets of blowing

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red eyes, one blow and high. So yeah, there's other

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people that saw something glowing red eyes. And they were

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out there when I was setting up tents, Like I said,

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eight o'clock six six whatever it was, they were heading out,

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So they were out there for like six hours from

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about being able to say from eight to to.

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That's very very interesting. Besides, so I guess a few

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few follow up questions. No strange smells in the campsite.

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No, no, nothing nothing words like the stuff you hear, right,

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the stuff that like like the skunk, the wet dog

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and all that, this stuff that makes you want to

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throw up like none of that. No, no, thefofo sick.

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But the like the sound, the best way I can

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describe is like below the diro frame, like like guttural

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bulleting your gut. If you can like make sounds from

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your belly up versus from your lungs up, like That's

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how I would describe it. It sounded like if if

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a gorilla could do that. That's I mean, that's I

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never really heard of gorilla grunt, but but it's not

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a known animal in Ohio that can, like I said,

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deer and bear right, And it was like it had

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intelligence because it didn't do what I wanted to like

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it clear stop the grandsons. I turned off the mister

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heater you know after the time a third run. So

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I had intelligence like to do that.

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And I'm thinking, if this this this thing, we're not

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no for a bear state at all or just just

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not West Virginia and Tennessee are right, but we're not

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no for that.

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Well, I used to tell people you have a better

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chance for running to a big foot than a than

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a black bear here in Ohio. And I mean I

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think Ohio is the hospital because all our rivers run

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into Ohio River. So you got the water stream, all

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the creeks and the small rivers at Sayota Rivers and

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all that running to its obviously you got the great

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lakes that that you know, so we were surrounded by water.

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Really no main big predators hunder beer, black bear which

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was nothing to them. And well mean trophy if you

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want a trophy book the house. Whereas at for a

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trophy book be trying to get that to two fifty

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range of pounds. You can definitely get it here. So

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and I know winters are not whether lately they've been

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very very mild, but but yeah, I mean it goes

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back to the eighteen hundreds when that one particular father

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and daughter are walking down and she just I don't

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even think she's said really because a couple of gorillataty

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exists back in those terms. I forget what she called

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it and attacked her dad. So so yeah, I mean

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it's it's And then I also go to Hawking Hills

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as the stories the National Forests. I haven't had experienced there,

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but yeah I don't. I don't. I really don't go

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once in the summertime just because you can't see any foliage.

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I mean, the foliage is so thick. But yeah, the

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situations that happened to me with the knock vocalizations, they

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were spring and fall.

454
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.079
So yeah, that makes that makes sense. Yeah, that's a

455
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.640
that's a good time, especially the fall from what I hear.

456
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.759
So you are you're actively going to Hawking Hills or

457
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.119
you've been there a few times?

458
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.599
Yeah, yeah, I mean living living in Columbus. You know

459
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.279
you're about I mean, I live on a I went

460
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.640
fifteen that get to South Fork and then like an

461
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.200
hour hour and fifteen pen of Hawking Hills, the National Forests,

462
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.720
southeast Ohio. Tayor Hall is a good place, Broke, It's

463
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.400
a good place. State park. Trying to think of some

464
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.599
other ones as well, but yeah, anything over there is

465
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.000
obviously in Hawking Hills. That whole general region is a

466
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.519
good spot. If you look at it on a BFR

467
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.880
map that's mapped out, you can pretty much draw a

468
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.559
straight line from Lemon County all the way down to

469
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:39.160
Hawkin Hills, which runs into SOUTHFLK. So it's our highest

470
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:44.720
point of the state. And it's I guess the appellation

471
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:50.039
of foot foothills and plateaus, I guess, And it kind

472
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:54.039
of makes sense why they stay from eastern Ohio southeast

473
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:58.000
to northeast, so kind of a diagonal line, which kind

474
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.440
of much through South Fork if you were d on

475
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:07.079
the map. But but yeah, I'll never forget. There's nothing.

476
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.119
And I've been to the zoo. I've been at San

477
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:16.519
Antonio Zoo. Columbus Zoo is pretty well known. There's there's

478
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.880
there's nothing that makes not there's nothing in North America,

479
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:24.119
well at least classified. It makes that noise.

480
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:30.039
Did you say that you had actually seen a track there, Yeah, yep,

481
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.440
tell us. I think it end that was in the weekend.

482
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:39.920
Something that was that was like the year priory. That was.

483
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.480
I was going out there like two thousand and two

484
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.960
I'm sorry, two thousand COVID COVID years because there's not

485
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.200
much else to do then go hiking and camping, and

486
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.400
I was getting tired of playing golf all the time,

487
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:01.000
so needed another outlet of And I think that's where

488
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.839
I picked it up because, like I said, one story short,

489
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.920
I was working from home and I'm listening to a

490
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.200
bunch of podcasts and so forth, So it kind of

491
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.160
expired me to go out, you know, to soft Fork

492
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.319
and get on those trails. Like I said, it's a

493
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.880
whole bunch of bottle trails that can go eight miles

494
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.279
to ten miles, and I guess I'm four mile once

495
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:25.039
as well too. So yeah, I got on the trail

496
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.880
and I saw the footprint, Like across the trail there

497
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.960
was this one single footprint that stepped on the trail

498
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.359
off and you couldn't see the recipe because it was

499
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.000
you know, leaf litter everywhere, but the trail didn't have

500
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:46.000
any leaves. And you can definitely see a heel for sure.

501
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.000
It looked blocky, like a blocky foot it really it didn't. Yeah,

502
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.119
just wide and blocky. You can see toes as well

503
00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:01.440
in it. But the heel looked like the dirt just

504
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.519
rolled upon his heel when it's stepped on it, because

505
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:11.719
it's pretty blank rounded rounded at the heel area as

506
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.519
it's pushing off his heel into the toes, so or

507
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.159
landing it heel and going onto the toes. But yeah,

508
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.760
I was walking down the trail of it and step

509
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.679
right over it, step right over it, and it was

510
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:30.480
kind of it looks fairly fresh. But but what caught

511
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.280
me was the impression. And I was looking for rocks,

512
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:39.119
but I'm thinking like, and it's a horse trail, so

513
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.599
like they're going to clear rocks out the way. They

514
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:47.320
don't want their horses breaking their bessive animal welling and

515
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.000
take care of and all that, so they keep it

516
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:54.079
somewhat kind of cleared out for the horses. And I'm

517
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.800
looking around for rocks, not firing a rock, but it

518
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.360
is clearly going on the us this is on the

519
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.960
blue Blue trail. That's all this and the blue trails.

520
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.920
If you look us all focused on the peninsula, you

521
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.360
can say and a lesser crossing the waters is a

522
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.199
really one way in and one way out on land

523
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.920
without crossing water. So that's the reason why I went

524
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.519
on a blue trail, and that's where I noticed it.

525
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.360
Did you have any way of did you have like

526
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.519
a tape measure or anything with you to try to Yeah?

527
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.960
I did, I did. I mean my size a little foot,

528
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.400
so I can I can send it to you love

529
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.480
it to compare. And it makes my foot like a

530
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:46.199
child's foot, it really does. That was that was that

531
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.840
was astonished. I'm like, I got I guess one unquote

532
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.840
grown man feet. I mean I'm not six four sixty five.

533
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.559
But that made my stuff with like my my toddler

534
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.480
when I have my kids were toddlers.

535
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.119
So were you able to try to do like a

536
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.440
cast or a three D scan or anything like that?

537
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.760
Besides me? No, I didn't have anything. I didn't have

538
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.119
anything on me. I mean the only thing I don't

539
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.360
even think. I didn't have my wallet on me. I

540
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.519
left it in the car, So I didn't have really

541
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.480
not much other than I knew everybody knows what the

542
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.440
size of leven foot looks like or a boot. So

543
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.800
so I put my foot up against it to say, hey,

544
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.400
this is like almost twelve feet right here at the

545
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:39.960
size eleven, So man, it's another three to four yeah. Yeah,

546
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.880
it looked like fifteen feet to me. Yeah. And then

547
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.639
the whiff, like my it was like the width of

548
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.519
my foot plus another half of my foot at least.

549
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.079
So I got, I put my foot in it, and

550
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.960
it was spaced on left and right of it. And

551
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.719
I waited to forty. So I'm not I'm not a

552
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.679
skinned guy, and I couldn't do nothing in the ground.

553
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.599
And the ground was frozen. It was freezing that night

554
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.000
and thaws out a little bit, so but we're in March,

555
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.440
so it's like forty for a high. It's not throwing

556
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.719
out that fast or that that efficient. So it's more

557
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:26.320
frozen throughout the death than it is above freezing. So yeah,

558
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.599
and it's to leave their impression into the ground like

559
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:31.960
that was something.

560
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:33.960
How how deep into the ground did it go?

561
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.239
Again? At least at said inch? At least like inch

562
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.119
and a half. That's wild. And I couldn't do nothing

563
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.920
I couldn't do nothing. Like I tried stopping on it

564
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.039
and everything around it, like not in it, but around

565
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.559
it to see what I can do. I couldn't moved it.

566
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:54.119
I mean the grounds like sex seemen almost, So there's

567
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.440
nothing I can my two hundred and forty pound body

568
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.519
could do to put it impression into the earth like that,

569
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.679
and coming out of winter so barely.

570
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:11.239
Scott from Patreon has a question for you, what was

571
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.199
it that first got you into a Bigfoot in the

572
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.840
first place?

573
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:24.199
Manster Quests, Monster Quests definitely did the the Ohio grassmend episode,

574
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.159
and I just moved to I guess a while and

575
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.000
seven and I think that came in like two thousand

576
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.960
and seven, I want to say eight really, and that

577
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.440
floored me. And then they had another one about Kentucky,

578
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.519
like they're in a while Kentucky. They got to be

579
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.239
in West Virginia and found out about the Florida's country,

580
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.639
so they intrigued me. I was in colle and that

581
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.760
was about going to college and then school and girls

582
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.400
and bars and parking and all that gotten away and

583
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:58.039
then COVID hit and it's like, okay, I think everybody

584
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.880
had to find an int is because if you're guy

585
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.119
was going to the gym and I was going to movies,

586
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:06.039
going out to eat all I came to a hall,

587
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.000
So I need something to gravitate take towards keeping my

588
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:13.400
interest throughout the day. And that's what kind of I

589
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:18.079
guess we sprung it or it was there. But I

590
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:24.039
always believe boys believe in evolution topology as well too.

591
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.360
Its evolution of you can say beings human beings, I

592
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:33.519
guess neanmathos and so for from but yeah, I mean,

593
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.000
and then the fact that every Native American has a

594
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:41.679
word for it, and I was like, oh my, and

595
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:45.360
then like from coast to coast, like they're they're definitely

596
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.320
not calling each other, writing each other, none of that.

597
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:54.920
And then yeah that and definitely and everybody can be crazy.

598
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:58.639
Everybody is like making this up over and over and

599
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.400
over and over and over again. I'm like, you know,

600
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.679
and I was like, there's no money to make this

601
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.480
stuff up there, like you're not you're not going to

602
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.960
get rich off of telling the story.

603
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:16.239
Well, it's you know, all these people emailing and giving

604
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.639
reports and it's like they're not. My emails is full

605
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.199
every day and it's like these people are not getting

606
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.199
anything from sending these emails like it's just yeah, I

607
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:29.400
totally get what you're saying.

608
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.559
And then like for me, like, but the podcast was

609
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:41.239
that was the harshness of treatments. I guess higher authorities

610
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.960
in the governments that people get And I was like, really,

611
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:49.400
like they go that far off threats and stalking and yeah,

612
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:54.920
the harassment, it was like wow, So that that caught

613
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.519
my interest on my cred They definitely not making this

614
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.559
up absolutely at all.

615
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.599
Have have there been any other interesting encounters you've heard

616
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.960
of from the Salt Fork area? Just curious if you've

617
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:09.719
ever heard anything.

618
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.920
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to give out this guy's name. Sure,

619
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.679
so I don't know if it's his permission, but he's

620
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.400
pretty well known. Yeah, there was a guy if you know,

621
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.880
well even Google or the I met him a big

622
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.800
foot bridge. This is he knows who he is if

623
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.239
he's listening. His name starts Real to Eat as well too.

624
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:42.239
Let's say that. And over by the group camp there's

625
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.000
like a swampy area and it's a little road that

626
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.760
goes into it and him and his his his prime Yeah,

627
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.840
there's only YouTube changes. Well, so he's I don't want

628
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.800
to tell too much about him. M hm, but uh,

629
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.400
him and his partner go out for a hike and

630
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.360
come back. His story is that I think his wife

631
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.719
was going to don't have one car, so normally he

632
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:11.760
goes in with his car, comes out of his car,

633
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.599
go back in his car, and leaves. This time, like

634
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.599
I guess, his wife was dropping him off, and so

635
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.760
they dropped them off. They go in and out they

636
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:28.519
where they normally park at. They kept on walking and

637
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.760
at soft Fork, like I said, at the campus is

638
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.599
little road and it's kind of swampy on both sides,

639
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:41.920
he saw one about ten feet tall, all black. Moved

640
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:47.079
trees out the way to see if they left, because normally,

641
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.840
like I said, they drive in, drave out, they doors close, opening,

642
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.719
flows and all that. And I guess the big foot

643
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.519
was like where are they? I didn't hear him get

644
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.440
back in their truck, and hear them away, And they

645
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.440
were walking towards his bridge near a bridge over this

646
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:11.280
little swamp spot to get I guess closer to his

647
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.320
wife that was on her way. She was running a

648
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.000
little bit late, and so they did something out of

649
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:22.239
the routine that they normally do. And he saw one

650
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.880
and he was shook up for months. He told me,

651
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:33.079
showed me a picture. I guess Mark Seene went as

652
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:34.639
well too. I talked to Mark, I think you know

653
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.239
who Marks who wants to be a big for conference.

654
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.239
He saw a black one as well, So I guess

655
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.239
they're pretty common to be black here in Ohio. Not

656
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.960
to say there's not brown ones or anything like that

657
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.079
or whatever. But two of the people I saw talk

658
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.159
to face to face that had an encounter and that

659
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:58.880
class a good class a that they had, they're black.

660
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.679
So so yes, I that's the class that I heard

661
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.440
of as solt Fork. Yeah, and.

662
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.159
That's extremely interesting. I'm sure a lot of people listening

663
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:15.760
to this would be like, Man, I've always wanted to

664
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.920
go to soft Fork and look for Bigfoot. Do you

665
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:22.039
have any advice for people that are going to sell

666
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:24.920
Fork for the first time to go camping.

667
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.719
There's gonna be a lot of knuckleheads out there. Don't

668
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.159
go and don't don't don't. Don't go out there in

669
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:38.440
the summertime because every everybody that I know, there's people

670
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.039
that don't even bother going to soft Fork anymore because

671
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:46.039
it's it's some people nothing. It's just saying it's getting

672
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.400
squashed out. But you get all these people going out

673
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:53.679
there in the summertime, knock on trees, hooping and hollering

674
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.360
and doing hoops, and you know they got they got

675
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.599
the kids camp where they go out there and they

676
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.760
walk up around. It could be pushing them away at

677
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.840
certain times of the year. And that's why I talked

678
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.039
about a while. If you look on the bfr O,

679
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.639
you can plot a straight line so they can go

680
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.000
up and down on line in the state so they could,

681
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.559
like I said, Hawking Hills is just right below it

682
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.599
on that appellation, the appellation of why really that they

683
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.079
do get pushed out because there's too many people in

684
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:32.199
the state park. They got someone else to go. So yeah,

685
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.840
if you're going to do this, do it when I

686
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:41.239
did it really spring lay fall. I like going because

687
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.639
if you're going on these trails, it's so thick in

688
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.280
there you can't see ten feet and you're almost wasting

689
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.239
your time doing that. If you're going to do it,

690
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.920
you want to go when all the leaf leaf flitters down,

691
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:58.239
you know it's November, December, January, February, where you actually

692
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:03.079
can see a mile, no half a mile. This pointless

693
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:06.280
doing it during the summertime. He really is, so I

694
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:08.360
don't even waste her. I mean, I'm not saying not

695
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.119
go out there, but I have a little expectations. In

696
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:17.400
other words, I would say, if you want them to

697
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.679
come up close, you're going to need at least three days.

698
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:26.719
I think I just got lucky that one night of them.

699
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:28.639
It really didn't come up to me. It really had

700
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:32.159
no interest in me. I just disturbed it but turning

701
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.840
on my mister Hero lamp glowing up my tent, and

702
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.559
it got pissed off of me. So it wasn't there

703
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:40.639
to check me out. It was really there to do

704
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.920
its normal routine of getting a dinner, a meal and

705
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.079
keep keep it, keep it moving. But if you want

706
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.199
these things, I guess I've heard you need at least

707
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.840
a week a LA about that four or five days

708
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.519
for the don't even feel comfortable approaching you. So it's

709
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.920
clearly pissed off of me, and you know probably didn't

710
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.800
want me there to begin with. So if you want

711
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.199
to have an accounter, I guess them coming into your

712
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.679
camp mind didn't come in my camp. I don't count

713
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.320
that account is passing my camp by. I just got lucky.

714
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:23.159
I'm turning all my mystery here at the time that

715
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:30.320
I did and definitely directed towards me, and the other

716
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.199
people heard it too, So yeah, I think it's a

717
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:40.679
solid Yeah, a solid class B vocalization. I really haven't

718
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.119
heard too many stories like mine, like kind of like

719
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.599
the old man get off on your type of thing,

720
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.440
like yelling at me. Never really heard that from anybody else.

721
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.599
He Thank you for coming on and sharing. This is

722
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.880
a very interesting interaction. It's kind of a unique one.

723
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.400
I would say, definitely haven't heard many like it. But

724
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.440
I appreciate you coming on to talk about your experience

725
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:06.159
at soul Fork.

726
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.599
Yeah, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. It was

727
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.639
a pleasure. Yeah, I'm surprised we don't have more form

728
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.280
a while, be honest with you, I don't know why

729
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:17.719
that is.

730
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.559
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