Oct. 11, 2025

Bear Brook is ALIVE! | New Hampshire

Bear Brook is ALIVE! | New Hampshire
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Season 1

What happens when New Hampshire’s most unsettling state park goes dead-quiet—then answers with knocks in the dark? In this eerie, faith-tinged episode, we talk with Rick, a hiker whose repeated trips to Bear Brook State Park (Hall Mountain, Allenstown/Candia, NH) have produced moments he can’t explain: a lone sapling violently shaking while all others stood still, sudden wind shifts, the woods going pin-drop silent, and crisp tree knocks that seemed to move with unseen footsteps. We also hear fresh accounts from Red River Gorge, Kentucky—a tent-side slam that shook the ridge, midnight whoops echoing across miles, and rapid-fire wood knocks—plus new sightings from Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Colorado, the Missouri–Mississippi confluence, and an unforgettable Missouri low-water bridge face-to-face. If you’ve felt the “get-out-now” gut pull in the timber, this one’s for you.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Rick today. Rick is an individual.

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It reached out to me a while back about some

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things he's experienced at bear Brook State Park over near Allenstown,

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New Hampshire, which has come up a few times on

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the show. So excited to talk to Rick today. How

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are you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing good.

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How are you doing it doing good? Man? Is there

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anything else that you would like the listeners to know

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about yourself before we start chatting today?

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So well, let me say this.

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So it's not It's not every time I go to

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bear Brook or go for a hike that I experience something,

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and this is like, you know, how can I say this?

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You can go out there for like, you know, a

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hundred times and never see anything or or feel anything,

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but you can go out there once and see something.

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You know. The phenomena is really strange because I know

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there's some people that be like, I've been.

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Hiking here for thirty seven years and I never saw anything.

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I've never heard anything, you know. So you know, I

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just wanted to throw that out there.

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But besides that, Nope, I can start with you with

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my first couple of experiences.

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So bear Brook is, it's about ten thousand acres, it

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is a state park. It does span two a couple

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of towns in New Hampshire.

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I think the biggest part is over in Allenstown, but

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there's also some more remote areas around Candia.

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There is quite I've never seen.

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I mean usually the part that I go to, it's

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you don't really see a whole lot of people out there,

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even during hunting season, so it is pretty remote. There

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has been that famous case which I believe that they

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finally saw where they found the bodies in the barrels.

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So I the place where I like to hike, it's

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not it's probably like maybe like.

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A few miles away from there. But the part that

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I go to, it's it's not like well traveled that

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it's actually pretty dead, and I think it's probably one

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of the creepiest parts, especially when it starts to get dark.

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Yeah, you barely see people out there.

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I mean.

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Rarely when it comes to like bigfoot or anything. I've

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never seen bigfoot at all, but I don't know why.

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I mean, there have been times when I've been out

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there where I was like, oh, he's definitely gonna show

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up now, but he never did. But so I'll start

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with you a first one. This was back in It

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was this set. No, it was October of twenty twenty two.

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I was actually out there with my brother and we

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were hiking up this trail. So we went off trail

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a little bit and we went to this like it's

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like a little hill and there's a rock I'm outcropping

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at the top. And what we did is we set

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up a little fire inside of a fire pit, and

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we were just like hanging out, you know, drinking and

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you know, just kind of enjoying the woods. And I

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remember this night, like the wind was just I mean,

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it was howling like Satan out there.

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It sounded like the devil.

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And it started to get dark, and it was around

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I want to stay around like seven seven pm where

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there was this moment where like you just feel like

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the wind just completely like died down, and then it

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like switched direction and it started going the other way.

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And then I started to get this weird feeling. And

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then my brother starts getting in too. I was like, man,

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do you feel something weird. He's like, yeah, yeah, I

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definitely feel something weird. There's something like you just started

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getting scared, like out of nowhere, you know. And so

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we're packing everything up. And I didn't tell my brother

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about this at the time, but from this like rock outcropping,

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I like look down and it had to be about,

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you know, maybe like one hundred yards or so in

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front of me. The wind had had died down at

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this point for a little bit, and I can see

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like a tree just like shaking like this just one

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little tree. You know, every other tree is calm, but

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this one is sitting there like shaking.

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So I was like, man, what's that.

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Like what's going on? So I start packing everything up

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like a lot faster.

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My brother's like, hey, what's going on. He's like, I

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was like, no, no, let's just get out here because

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it's gonna get dark. And you know, I don't I

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don't want to get lost. And then the wind picks

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up again.

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And now with the wind picking up, I can hear

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what sounds like like a frock man just like tearing

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through the woods and use the wind right, the wind

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howling and the leaves rustling as a cover right for

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for what it's doing.

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But I can, you know, differentiate the wind. And I

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just started hearing trees falling like like little saplings.

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And at this point, you know where they're trying to

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put the fire out and and and I was like,

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we have to get out of here quick. So we

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we grabbed our stuff and then we like left and

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I we actually got like lost for for a good while.

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And what finally we made it out? There wasn't there

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was another time there. And this was a couple of

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months later. I was out there alone. So I had

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set up like a hammock. And with my job, so

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like what would I do for work? You know, like

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half half of my job is a remote work. So

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At times, I would take my laptop and I would

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just go up to the woods and I would just

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sit there like work. And at bear Brook it's it's good,

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especially at this place where the service is it's not

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bad at all.

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So you can actually hot spot off your phone and

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you can send emails, you know.

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And so I was sitting up there in the hammock

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doing that and you can hear the birds, you know,

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the birds singing and everything, and and all of a

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sudden it's just quiet, and then you get that that

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weird feeling again. It was two three different sounds. So

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the first sound that I heard sounded like somebody took sheet.

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Metal, like a like a you know, like a plate

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of sheet metal, and they're like wiggling it around. And

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if you know that sound that like sheet metal makes,

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you know that like wobbling sound. I started hearing that.

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And then I started hearing it like.

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What sounded like a humongous like metal door opening.

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Up, And I was like, what is that? So?

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And I was thinking, I was like, oh, there's like

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a clearing over there. I wonder if you know that

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there's some blumberjacks out there and they're cutting down like

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what they'll just clear like an entire areas of the

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forest when they find patches.

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I forget what it is. It's it's it's some type

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of invasive species.

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I think it's it's red oak or or it's a

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like a bug that attacks red oak.

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So if they find it, they'll clear it, right, So

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I was thinking it was that. So I went out

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there and I pack up my stuff and I just

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start walking towards it. And I get to this clearing

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and there's absolutely nobody out there. There's nothing. The logging

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road that goes in is all overgrown. So then I go.

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Back, and when I go back, the like the sound

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like starts like persisting, and this time it's like it

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starts getting a little bit louder, and I go on

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on my phone and I'm like, I was like strange

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metal sounds in the woods, and I was like, and

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I couldn't find like an explanation for it. And again

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you start hearing something lay off like in the distance

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and it sounds like it's running towards you. And at

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this point again I get super scared and like my

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like stomach just like turns, and I'm just scrambling to

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pack everything and I just like darted out of there

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like as fast as I could. I almost fell on

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my face a few times, and I I don't know why,

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but I was panicking so much. I was trying to

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find the trail, and I was actually like walking off trail,

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but like parallel to the trail. But I was freaking

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out so much wanting to get out of there, that

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I didn't see it.

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But luckily I made it out that time.

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And people are like, oh, you know, you'll hear some

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people say like, yeah, I'll never be back to the

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woods again.

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I'm like, I was like, you know, I.

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Like going there, yet it can be pretty scary sometimes,

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especially when it starts to get dark.

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But you know, I had no problem with that.

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But then again, if I actually saw like a like

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a bigfoot or something, then I'd.

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Probably feel a little different.

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But the other time, and this was I think this

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was early like last year, I was with a friend

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of mine and we were out there looking for chaga mushrooms.

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There's the most big ol almost looks like like wood,

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but they grow on birch trees, right, So we go

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out there sometimes and we'll just look for it, and

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there's actually quite a bit out there. I mean, we

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found like some pretty big chunks, and we were off

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trail and we're just you know, getting this like huge.

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Chunk of like chaga mushroom off of this tree. And

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it was so this was like.

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I think this was probably around February, like late February.

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I'm just like taking this thing of like chaga off,

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putting it in my bag, and I look my friend

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had he's a little bit ahead of me walking around,

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and when I look to my left, I see like

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this like misty smoke okey like picture like a person,

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like a human, like a human, you know, form and

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outline like a body, but it's completely made of like smoke,

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you know, like vapor. I look over it, and I

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can see this thing just like walking and it's uh

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walking like sideways right, so I can see like it's

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uh its.

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Right leg and and it's arm. It's right arm is

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actually swinging as if somebody's walking.

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And then I just watch it like walking, walking, walking, walking,

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and then then it goes it walks a little more,

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and then it just like disappears, you know, like the

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smoke just like dissipated.

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And I'm just sitting there like did I.

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Just see that, you Like.

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I was like, I'll stop, and I'm just thinking, you know,

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there's no way like I just saw that like at all,

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you know, and I'm and I'm.

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Kind of like freaking out at this point.

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So I go and I tell a friend of mine

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and he's like and I asked him, I was like, Hey, did.

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You see that that like smoky thing walking around? He's

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like no, no. I was like, oh, it was just

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like right there. He's like, no, I didn't see it

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at all. So we both agreed that it was time

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to like get out of there, you know, and we did.

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And uh, I always wonder like I was like, you know,

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I had heard that, you know, like of like certain

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types of I actually did some research on bear Brook

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and there is some like a history. It's not it's

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not very prevalent, but but there have been people there

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that have seen like strange things like lights in the

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woods like Bigfoot. Also like the voices, the voices I've

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never heard out there, but you know, I was always wondering,

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like what exactly is you know that could like cause

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that that sort of thing.

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But so I did spend a couple of months without

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going back there because I saw this like smoky person.

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And then I started going back. It was, I want

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to say, around the fall of last year.

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And I went months and months and months without seeing

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anything there, and and and and at some point, at

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one point I was going out there three or four times.

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A week just for like a short hike, you.

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Know, just to kind of just you know, enjoy the woods.

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And you know, it's quiet out there, so you can

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go out there.

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And you can think, you can read a book, you know,

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you can do look for mushrooms. You know. I haven't

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hunted out there yet, but maybe I will soon. So

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it was the last two experiences I had. There were

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a couple of months ago. No no, no, it was

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a couple of weeks ago I went out to the

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same spot. Oh wait, wait, wait, no, I've actually missed

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a one. So it was August of last year. I

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was with this friend of mine and we were both

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sitting down and we're just talking smoking cigars, you know,

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and we started talking about the like I forget the

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context of the conversation, but we were talking about Canaanite gods.

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So I mentioned a bail of the Canaanites.

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And this is when it starts to get dark, and

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we start talking about bail.

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I get the goosebumps just talking about it, and he.

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And I like, I just started getting like this weird feeling,

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like a really really weird feeling. He's like, man, yeah,

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I got this weird feeling too, And out of nowhere

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we just hear and it was like, pretty close to us.

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We hear what sounds like.

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Somebody imitating a like a it almost sounded like a

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bear cup calling out for it its mother, but it

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was like it was pretty loud, and it did it

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about two times, and you know, like we're like, what

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is that? You know, and both of us got up.

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You know, I have a pretty powerful flashlight, and it

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wasn't seconds after that. We both get up and I

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just shine this flashlight all over this area and there's

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absolutely nothing there, like nothing, and whatever was making that

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sound sounded really big, so and I was thinking, like.

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That couldn't have been a bear cub because.

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As soon as we got up to go towards it,

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you would have heard the thing, and you can't. It's

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almost impossible. It really is hard to like sneak up

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on like like to go out like sneaking out there

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because of all the leaves, you know, like you can't

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really be quiet, like we'll hear it.

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Coming, you know. And so so like I was thinking, like, okay,

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so that that was not a bear cup.

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That was definitely somebody imitating a bear cup. But how

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on earth did this person get so close to us

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like that without us seeing it, hearing it, and in

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the pitch black darkness with no flashlight whatsoever, so we

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would have seen it coming. And we looked in like

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search like the area and like nothing, you know, and

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it's just that feeling that you get, like we packed.

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Up our stuff and just got out of there.

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And so then after I was thinking to myself, I

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was like this thing that does not like the a Bible, right,

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So I was like, okay, So I went there a

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couple weeks ago and I was like, I'm going to

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broke and prod like whatever's out here. And then I

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start reading something like on my phone out of the Bible, right,

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and you know, the birds are going off and everything,

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and I'm reading it and all of a sudden, everything

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just goes quiet.

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I hear behind me.

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Sounded like a like a h a wild boar, And

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I was like, man, that and it was like you know,

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maybe this like grunting sound, and I thought, hey, it's

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like there's obviously there's no wild boars here. So I

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looked back, thinking that I was going to see, like,

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you know, a male bear just kind of walking towards me,

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you know, trying to be curious. And when I look back,

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there was nothing there at all. And then up towards

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the trail, I heard what sounded like people walking, you know,

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and and and like talking.

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I don't know if you've.

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Ever heard like people talking from like far away, but

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you can't really make out what they're saying.

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That's what it sounded like.

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But I could hear them walking through the woods and

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like breaking branches, and that's when I heard like my

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first two like tree knocks, and you can it was

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as loud as day.

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It just you know, starts like knocking, and then you

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could hear like walking a little bit. And then I

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get up and I rush over there, Like I literally

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rushed all over there. I was like, you know, I

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want to see, like what's doing this?

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And there was absolutely nothing and there was no way,

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you know, that this thing could have gotten away so fast.

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So whatever is it's just like like likes to mess

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with me, I guess, and this will be the last

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time I went.

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A couple of.

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Weeks ago as well, maybe it was early August. I'm

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like walking up the trail, right and I just feel

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like something telling me, like, hey, turn around, turn around,

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don't don't go up there, turn around, and I was

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like whatever, I just ignored it, and you know, and it's.

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Kind of hard to explain, but I just kept walking.

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And once I got like halfway not halfway, but like

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a quarterway up of the trail, it's like like somebody,

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I don't know if you've ever done like like an

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eye exam, and they, you know, the optometrists, he puts

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that big, that big like you know thing in front

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of your face and then he switches the.

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You know, these like lenses and he just goes through

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like different settings that to find the right one that

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that you can actually see through.

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And what it.

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Looked like it's like somebody changed filter, like the like

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the light filter in front of me, and it just

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like changed, and so.

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I was like, oh, that's like really weird.

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And at that moment, it felt like I was somewhere else,

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like I didn't recognize where I was at all, Like

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it had completely like disoriented me, you know, And this

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was like the weirdest part. It's like I'm looking around,

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it's like, okay, I kind of recognized where I am,

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but but then like it just it was just different,

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you know, like like a different place almost it kind.

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Of looked like it, but it was just different. And

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I still didn't listen right to this feeling.

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So I kept going, kept walking, and then I finally stopped,

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and then off to my right sounded like it was

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probably like maybe like fifty feet off trail, I heard

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what sounded like a group of people speaking in.

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Some like foreign language. I was like, so I listened.

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I was like, is that like Spanish?

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But then like the I started to kind of walk

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closer to it, and it just I couldn't quite make

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out what they were saying, you know, but it was

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almost like something was trying to draw me in there

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to like to get closer.

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And so then I go back. I just walk. I

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take a couple of steps back, and I'm like, and

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I said to myself, like, yeah, I really have to

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like get out of here, like this is super weird.

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Like the you know, it it almost feels.

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Like, you know, like I'm in a completely like different place,

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and I just start walking back. I just walked back

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to the car, and I was stuck with with like

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this feeling like all day, like man like where like

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what happened?

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You know?

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And and I have gone back there since. But I

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don't know, man, I think I just got to listen

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to my gut more. And my gut is telling me

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now it's like, don't go out there by yourself, you know.

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So I don't know, man, I think that that place

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in particularly where I go, you do have that that

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these like murders that happened that's just north of that,

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and there have been a couple of murders like around

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that area, not exactly in.

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It, but like I'm around it.

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And if you go to the New Hampshire State Police

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Unsolved Homicides and it gives you a map and you

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soon and assume into where like bear Brook is, you'll

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see a couple of murders that that have happened around

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that area. I mean, not not too far away from there.

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There's a I think it's called New Boston Road. There

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were two girls that were found murder there and in

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the seventies, and that case has been unsolved ever since

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there was another guy that was found murdered there in

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the nineties. Then you have the bodies in the barrel,

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and just south of that there was like another one

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as well. So I was just thinking, like, man, you know,

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there's just some sort of like darkness, some sort of

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like dark energy here that really manifests itself when it

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starts to get when it's like nighttime.

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Or when you're just like by yourself. So I have

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like no idea, you know, I'm always curious and I'm

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always looking to see if there's other people that have

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had like similar experiences. And I have found a few

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things on like Reddit where people say like, oh yeah,

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you know, just they all describe the same things that

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I felt. But that being said, I mean.

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It's not going to stop me from going back there.

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But I have this like rule now where if it

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starts to get dark, Once it starts to get dark,

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I am out of there, Like I'm not going to

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stick around anymore.

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Well yeah, that's pretty much it.

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Wow, Rick, Oh yeah, that that and that voice is

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there inside of us for a reason. Man, That's that

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is intense. I had no idea about the history of

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that that park. Now Yeah, these these incidents that you're

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bringing up, these murders. So are these like missing four

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on one or these are actual like people being found dead?

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No, these are like actual like murders. OK, gotcha. I

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don't think there has been.

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If you look up the Bearbrook murders you'll see it.

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It was like a couple of bodies.

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They found the bodies back in the eighties, and they

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had a hard.

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Time identifying them.

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But that like the where the bodies were founded, that's

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not in the park. It was found like outside of

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a trailer park, which like borders bear Brook, and I

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think that's like private property. So if anybody's thinking about

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going out there, i'd be careful.

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Yeah, good call, I would say, let's let's not mess

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with that at all for sure. I mean, you had

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some really really interesting experiences happened Rick over the years.

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One that was really interesting to me was how you

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were You started reading the Bible and everything started getting

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quiet and things started ramping up. Now, did you randomly

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pick a passage or did you have one in mind

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that you turned to and started reading.

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No, so I just randomly pick a passage.

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I think it was it was I believe it was

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First Kings nineteen when the prophet Elijah he's running away

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from Jezebel was trying to kill him and he goes

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up to the mountain. Well, yeah, I I think whatever's

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out there does not like to hear the Bible.

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At all, which which is interesting because in One Kings

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eighteen that's when the prophets of Bail were defeated by

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Elijah on Mount Carmel. Right, So I don't know if

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you had you been talking about that before when you

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were talking about Bail earlier then.

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So yeah, so at I believe we were. So that

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was at a different time we were talking about I

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think it. Yeah, we might have been talking about Jezebel,

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which is weird, you know, and then I started reading

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it and in you know, at a different time, I

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start reading about Elijah.

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So maybe, yeah, that could have been what triggered it.

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You know, it's there's so much going on in this world.

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We have no idea what is well, we know it's

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behind the scenes, there's some intense spiritual warfare going on,

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but we usually cannot see it, right, And it is

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very interesting that you reading that passage. I mean, some

469
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.440
of that stuff blatantly sounds like bigfoot activity, I mean,

470
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.319
especially the tree Knox. But when you had the group

471
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:54.039
of people talking, did it sound like it was like

472
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.079
a murmuring or mumbling at all?

473
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.680
It sounded like No, it didn't sound like murmuring or mumbleing.

474
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.480
It just sounded like people talking, but they were just

475
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.279
like far away and you can you can hear the sounds,

476
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.359
but you can't make out what they're saying.

477
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:16.680
Gotcha when anything, but when everything went quiet, did h

478
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.759
were your ears affected it any anywhere any weird way physically?

479
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:28.200
So No, Like it's weird because you it goes quiet

480
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:32.200
and it almost sounds like you can hear like this

481
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:37.079
buzz like this, but it's like really faint. So I

482
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.759
just think to myself, like did I really hear like

483
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.480
that beating sound or what.

484
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.359
It's It's weird, but it can be like very disorienting

485
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:50.359
in a way. You know.

486
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.359
Yeah, I just say, don't like trust your gut out there.

487
00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:01.599
I'm kind of, you know, really curious and like I'll

488
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.359
try to like walk towards it to see like what's

489
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:06.720
going on, But don't do.

490
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.440
That, you know. And I had.

491
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:12.839
To like change, you know, the way I approach it now.

492
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.880
But in terms of that, it's it's weird, man, Like

493
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:23.559
it'll go dead quiet and and it's just kind of

494
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:28.920
like a like a faint like like that, like almost

495
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.920
like I have a tonight is too right something my

496
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.640
ears will ring and it sounds like that, like the

497
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.400
ringing in the ears, but it's very very faint, which

498
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:47.599
I'm thinking, like I was like, you know, it's it's yeah,

499
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:52.319
it's it's weird, man. You know it's not something pleasant

500
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:52.759
for sure.

501
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.400
Yeah, no, absolutely, And I know exactly what you're talking

502
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.000
about when you refer to what that sounds like, So

503
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.119
not so much like a humming, but more like a

504
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.279
tonightis type sound sounds like.

505
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.039
Yeah. Yeah, but.

506
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.519
It could be a coincidence suit that at that moment

507
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:15.839
when everything went quiet and my ears were ringing because

508
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:16.519
of tonightis.

509
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.680
So I'm not sure if that. Yeah.

510
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:25.240
The other really interesting, and this was just early August

511
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.039
of this year. I mean the way that you experienced

512
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:34.519
when you were walking up that trail, I mean that

513
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.559
sounds really close to when people are talking like they've

514
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:42.079
gone through some kind of portal or things like that.

515
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.559
Yeah, yeah, that was weird man.

516
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.440
It's like you know, put put like grab like it's

517
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.400
hard for me to explain.

518
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.000
I think the best way to explain.

519
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.880
Is like grab some like sunglasses, put them on on

520
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.960
a sunny day, right, and then just like like lift

521
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.119
them up and put them back on, you know, against

522
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:06.839
you your eyes.

523
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.559
Like that's like what happened?

524
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:09.599
You know?

525
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.240
It was like a like a change almost like like

526
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.640
you're I don't think I walked into like some other dimension,

527
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.119
but it's like, see, I've been walking down the same

528
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.119
trail for for years, right, and and then this happens,

529
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:32.000
this change and like the light filter and uh and

530
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.400
and it and I look around and I didn't recognize

531
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.920
the place at all. It felt like it was completely

532
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:43.359
like somewhere completely different. You know that that that that's

533
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.160
that was scary Like that that almost made me not

534
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:47.400
want to go back there again.

535
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.160
All right, I absolutely get that. And it sounds like

536
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.279
you know when you do have that that gut reaction

537
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.039
where you're like, okay, maybe not this place today. You

538
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.880
are you are following that from here on out, which

539
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.359
is great. Did uh sorry? Are you a religious person then?

540
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.119
Or yeah, yeah, I'm a Christian.

541
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:16.559
As el Okay? Have you had things like that happen

542
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.519
whenever you when You've read the Bible other times or

543
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.880
is that the only time that that's happened where you

544
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.360
had that weird reaction.

545
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.960
No, so, man, you want to talk about like paranormal

546
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:34.880
stuff throughout my life, there was once, and this happened

547
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:39.760
in my early twenties. I was asleep in my bedroom

548
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:46.400
and I and I hear somebody something unlocked the door

549
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.559
and they walk in, and what walked in was this

550
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:59.519
like giant probably like a seven foot tall, like like

551
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.880
a pray mantis, with a human type like the head

552
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.679
was kind of human shape, and I remember this day

553
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.840
man like the antennas. It had two antennas on top

554
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.119
of its head, and the antennas were kind of.

555
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.559
Like they were like moving around in like circles.

556
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.320
It had its hands up to its chest like a

557
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.960
praying mantis, and it just kept on floating towards me.

558
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.679
And when it was doing that, there's a there was

559
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.920
a buzzing, like a buzzing sound right in the middle

560
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.519
of my forehead and it was just like, you know,

561
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.559
just just like this weird buzz and I couldn't move,

562
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.599
I couldn't say anything, and all of a sudden, I'm

563
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.119
able to let out like a you know, when you're

564
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.840
able to move and say something, it just.

565
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.320
It went away completely.

566
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:58.519
And yeah, yeah, occasionally I'll get things like that if

567
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.679
I go on like A asked, right, and I'm not

568
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.039
I'm not like a super Christian or anything. Man, Like,

569
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.559
you know, I still have problems, you know, I swear

570
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.800
sometimes I still.

571
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:10.679
Like to drink something here.

572
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:16.360
You know, no one is yeah right, you know, like

573
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.119
everyone every yeah, everyone struggles that I get to do.

574
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.840
Yeah yeah, you know.

575
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:26.400
Like like, man, I'm not perfect at all, but there

576
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.800
are times in my life I'm especially when like if

577
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.239
I were to fast for like three or four days

578
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.960
and then go out to like bear Brook, Man, I

579
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.840
swear to I swear, I think every single paranormal thing

580
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.159
would probably just jump out of the trees at me.

581
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.679
And I think that would go for for anybody really.

582
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:51.679
But huh yeah, yeah, man, have you.

583
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.519
Tried that where you fasted for a few days and

584
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:55.480
then you've gone out there?

585
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.000
I haven't, no, but maybe I should.

586
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.079
But I mean I'm not saying you should.

587
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.239
I mean that's your I mean I wouldn't be able

588
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.360
to go very far because you know, if you're fasting

589
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.519
for a couple of days and then you're gonna go

590
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:14.760
on a hike, I mean, you're gonna be like dead

591
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:15.559
pretty much.

592
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.320
But no, I have not tried that, but maybe I

593
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:21.679
should have.

594
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.440
One thing I was thinking about doing is going out

595
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.719
there at like five or six a m. And only

596
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.639
up to like the top the top of like a

597
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.440
hill or something to pray. But I have not done

598
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.760
that yet, and I'm like, should I do that?

599
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:42.400
You know, because when when it's dark out there just

600
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.239
super creepy. Man, it's just eery.

601
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.079
I mean there were times when when I'm like walking

602
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:53.480
through there, like and it's like nighttime, there's like fog

603
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.000
and miss like like like on the ground, so it

604
00:37:56.039 --> 00:38:00.440
looks like a horror movie, you know, and it's just creepy.

605
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.480
It really really is just really.

606
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.559
Scary out there at night, I think more so than

607
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.239
any other woods anywhere else.

608
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:10.480
I Mean.

609
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.239
The great thing is that you know, so if if

610
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.880
if you're a Christian, you do have you know, the

611
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:21.480
armor of God for you and then uh so you

612
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.360
are protected right now that you still got to be

613
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.039
careful where places you go because you can run into

614
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.719
into stuff that can be very you know, dangerous physically

615
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.840
and spiritually for sure. But we do have that that uh,

616
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.280
that power of the Holy Spirit, which you know, that's

617
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.280
interesting because it's like maybe it's a thing where you know,

618
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:47.320
you that that gut feeling you know, as Christians we

619
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.840
have that's usually that's the Holy Spirit being like hey, yeah, easybuddy,

620
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.119
be careful, dude. But man, that's that that really puts

621
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.360
a whole different twist on on that area. And I

622
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.960
think I think it's not just that area. I mean

623
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.440
there's there's stuff like this, you know, we know all

624
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.039
over the world, all over all over the US, and

625
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:14.639
maybe some places more more prevalent than others, right, But yeah, Rick,

626
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:18.599
this is this has been a Yeah, I'll tell you,

627
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.960
I got a little nervous when I saw your your

628
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.840
your summary and you were talking about Canaanite guides gods,

629
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:25.880
and I was like, I don't know where this is

630
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.440
going to go, but it went somewhere different. So it's

631
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:33.559
very cool. But so you are, you're you're planning on

632
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:37.920
going back out and I'd say, yeah, dude, I mean

633
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.239
it would be really interesting to see, you know, what

634
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.039
happens if you did, you know, pray out there and

635
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.920
or or read the Bible again, and you know, definitely

636
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.079
you know, let me know what what happens if you

637
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.360
do decide to go out there again.

638
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:59.039
Yeah, I'll definitely try it, like at least at some point,

639
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:03.840
you know. And I don't know, man, there there is

640
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:08.960
something out there. I don't know what it is, but

641
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:10.880
but there's something out there that.

642
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.320
Is just like like nefarious.

643
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:18.480
And one thing that I would want to like, no,

644
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.199
right or talk to is the people.

645
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.599
I mean, there's people that live around there, right.

646
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.920
I would love to hear from somebody that that lives

647
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.719
like around the park just to see if they've.

648
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.599
Ever had anything like that. Yeah, but I'm always looking

649
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.400
for like houses for sale around there. You know.

650
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:42.840
I was like, God, you know, that'll be cool, but

651
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:44.960
but yeah, I'm always like like wondering.

652
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:46.920
I've ran a very.

653
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:52.599
Very few people out there in the Candy Eception, and

654
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.719
I've just never had the courage to like ask them, hey,

655
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.639
have you seen anything out here? But maybe next time

656
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.000
I will, I had maybe there's.

657
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.079
Yeah, they would be interesting to see if you did,

658
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:05.920
because I know I've talked well, I've talked to a

659
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.320
few other people about this this park back it's like

660
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.519
eight oh six and eight oh eight of the podcast,

661
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.199
and they are like, yeah, there's certain areas of this

662
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.239
park or maybe on the borders where you know, people

663
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:20.599
have like the signs up, like the Bigfoot signs or

664
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.119
like the big Foot silhouettes, And I mean you don't

665
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.480
have those up for no reason, right, like you got

666
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:28.079
to have you know, there's gotta be something that you

667
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.920
have those up. So yeah, if people are listening from

668
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:35.400
this area, and if if you have, if you've experienced

669
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.199
stuff you live around there, or if you just experienced stuff,

670
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.360
you know, feel free to reach out. You can send

671
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.440
an email to me at the Bigfoot Society at gmail

672
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.440
dot com. But it is one of those places where

673
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.159
it's come up a few times on the show, which

674
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.639
is kind of weird for New England to be honest.

675
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.840
That's true, man, I I honestly.

676
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:59.440
I mean when when you hear about like Bigfoot, you

677
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.360
know it, it's always it's either like down south or

678
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.599
it's like out west somewhere, and New England is always

679
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:11.639
really quiet. But for some reason, this like this part,

680
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:13.679
and then you had that.

681
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.800
That that uh, that guy that came on that that

682
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.119
saw the Bigfoot in them over at Stephens Stephen's Hill

683
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.840
Road and Noddingham. Yeah, yeah, yep, and how and I.

684
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:27.320
Have a I have a buddy that that that lives

685
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:32.639
up in that area. Now, yeah, there there's just something there, man.

686
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.840
And I'll tell you, if you have the courage, go

687
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.880
out to to bear Brook, go out to a bear

688
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:44.119
Brook at and a mount Hall or Hall Mountain, go

689
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:49.599
out to Hall Mountain at night, and and just see, like,

690
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.480
you know, if you feel like like something, because I

691
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.159
know there's people a lot braver than I am out there.

692
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.639
And if I happened to be out there and I

693
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.079
see someone out there, I'm gonna ask you, you know, like,

694
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.760
and maybe we can do it together, because I don't

695
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:08.880
want to do it by myself.

696
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:16.079
What did one of your specific incidents happen at Hall Mountain?

697
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:22.320
Then? Yeah? Yeah, so and everything that I experienced was

698
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.440
that Hall Mountain. Everything.

699
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.559
I wasn't gonna say where it was that at, but

700
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.320
I was like, you know what, man, just I'll just

701
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.719
say it, because well, what I guess what would suck now,

702
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.719
right is if you go out there and there's people

703
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.960
like hunting for bigfoot. But I I don't think so well.

704
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.079
I pretty much gave it away anyways by saying, Candya,

705
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:50.400
so right, but it's true. Yeah, it's Hall the Hall Mountain.

706
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.159
Then again, like I'm not saying you're gonna go out

707
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.599
there and see something, right, You may go out there

708
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.199
a million times and never see your experience anything. You know,

709
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.679
this is just what I've what I've seen and what

710
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.079
I've experienced. Well, yeah, i'd say, go out there at

711
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.880
night and you'll see how creepy it gets. And it changes.

712
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.679
Man, in the daytime, it's it's perfectly normal, perfectly nice.

713
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.639
When it starts to getting it like at dusk, still

714
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:20.719
still nothing.

715
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:26.079
But once it gets dark, wham, like you are, it

716
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:29.280
feels like the devil is like is roaming around out there.

717
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:30.000
Oh I got it.

718
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:36.000
Yeah, it's the same thing happens out in Oregon when yeah,

719
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:41.119
that gets really quiet or the dusk. Totally totally get that, man, Rick,

720
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.199
what a what a fascinating set of accounts that you have.

721
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.159
Thank you so much. I'm glad we were able to talk.

722
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:49.760
It took a few times, but we've got to got

723
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.360
it to work out and definitely keep me in in

724
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.239
the loop if anything happens in the future in this area.

725
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.559
But it's been a pleasure to talk to you today

726
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.239
and just to make sure that you were able to

727
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.519
share everything that you came to the show to share today.

728
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.920
All right, Yeah, so brother, Yeah, So I had a.

729
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.320
Type B encounter at Red River Gorge eastern Kentucky.

730
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.159
Have you ever heard of that place?

731
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.559
Yeah, that's a pretty active area.

732
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.639
Yeah, it was back in twenty seventeen.

733
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.599
I'm a pretty avid hiker, so I was.

734
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.719
Pretty familiar with the area, and I took a friend

735
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:43.719
of mine down there. And it's really weird because I

736
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.960
found out this guy was from Florida and he never

737
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:48.599
went camping before in his life.

738
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:51.119
And I found that out on the way there.

739
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.320
So that changed the course of the conversation on the

740
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.920
way there, and so I felt led to give him

741
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.800
some of the dudes and the don'ts of camping. And

742
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.440
since I was familiar with that area, you know, it's

743
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.079
got a really weird spiritual feel to it, but it

744
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:09.880
also has a.

745
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:11.800
Lot of you know, encounters.

746
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:15.840
So long story short, I kind of warned this guy

747
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.679
because he was like a macho man, and I just

748
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.719
was letting him know, like, you know, I believe in Bigfoot.

749
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.239
It's really crazy that this happened. I really feel like

750
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.440
I kind of saved this guy's life. I know that

751
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:35.800
sounds like far fetched, but I really think that it

752
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:39.159
had an impact with how the night went. But I,

753
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.840
long story short, told him I believed in this stuff.

754
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.880
And I had been listening to the Sasquatch Chronicles podcast

755
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.000
for a short time and then I always grew up

756
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.559
with a couple of stories in my family, so I

757
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.440
just always knew about them existing.

758
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.559
So I kind of just warned him about, hey.

759
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.679
If anything messes with us at our tent, just don't

760
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:02.920
go out of the tent. Like that was kind of

761
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:04.920
like my main And of course he was kind of

762
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.880
like laughing it off, which was to be expected. But

763
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.159
so we got there and it was like maybe six

764
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:16.719
or seven. We didn't have a lot of time to

765
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.360
get firewood, so I just told him to help me

766
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.000
get some firewood. And he kept bringing back these like

767
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.199
big branches with leaves on them, and it.

768
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.559
Was just not firewood. So I was like, oh no.

769
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:35.000
And then I remember like we were on the end

770
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:39.920
of this ridge. It was a chimney Chimney Top.

771
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:42.840
So Chimney Top is like a five mile road or so,

772
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.719
and it's a gravel road and it pretty much takes

773
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.519
you out on this ridge. And so we were at

774
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.800
the very end of it, and it used to be

775
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.880
where I'd go camping every time, but now I go

776
00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:00.079
and it's closed like half the year. I wonder why.

777
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:05.039
So I just remember when he's gathering this firewood. I

778
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.119
remember just the hair on the back of my neck

779
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.039
standing up, and it's like dusk at this point. You know,

780
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.960
we're fervently collecting firewood so that we have.

781
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:15.719
Some for the night.

782
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.159
But I remember feeling watched, and so I just kind

783
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.679
of scanned the area and uh, a little bit longer

784
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:25.840
than what I usually would. I just felt a really

785
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.280
weird feeling, and so I just kind of noted that and.

786
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:28.639
Went on.

787
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.639
And uh, we made some We made some really good food.

788
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.880
We made like a like I made camp packs, so

789
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:43.400
like meat, sausage, like sausage, onions, carrots, potatoes, garlic.

790
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:47.039
You know, very very many smells going on.

791
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.559
So and then we actually had a Uh there was

792
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.000
two other campsites right before ours, but they were spread

793
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:56.960
out so we could barely hear the people.

794
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.360
But they were like.

795
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.639
I think they were shrooms because they were like screaming

796
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.719
and hollering and like just very happy.

797
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.639
So it wasn't really bothering us.

798
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.280
But we could hear them every once in a while,

799
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:14.280
so I just thought i'd tell you for a later absolutely.

800
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.280
And so we eat the food, We get as much firewood.

801
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:23.920
As we can, which isn't a lot, and uh, we

802
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.480
read a little bit of the word. We were church friends,

803
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.360
so we just read like a chapter of the Bible,

804
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.679
and then we like we weren't we were just buddies

805
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.880
just going camping. And so we go lay down. I mean,

806
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.480
we get in the tent and I forgot to tell

807
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:44.000
you I had a machete and he didn't know, you know,

808
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:48.199
anything about machete, so he got another machete at the

809
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.320
gas station and I was like, okay, Well he said

810
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.400
it was dull, so I was like, all right, Bud.

811
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.559
I was like, it's gonna be the same as mine,

812
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.440
but shining. So he figured that out. He was like, yeah,

813
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.719
you're right. I was like, I told you to save

814
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.920
your money. But it's okay because then we both had

815
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:05.559
my sheddies.

816
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:10.000
So we're just laying there and like not even ten

817
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.039
minutes goes by. I feel like and all of a sudden,

818
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.199
it's like, oh, I forgot to mention.

819
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:15.599
Sorry.

820
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:18.719
There was a hiker that came up to us with

821
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.800
a really bright led light on his head, and he

822
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.239
asked for directions, and so I kind of pointed him

823
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.360
where to go, and I told him to be careful

824
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.000
because we're on a ridge, you know.

825
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.760
And there's cliffs all around us.

826
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:33.760
Essentially, I was like, and if you need to come back,

827
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.960
you can come back here, you know, so that'll.

828
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:41.079
Be important for later. And so we lay down.

829
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:47.960
And we just felt like we were being stalked, like

830
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:52.960
after just like ten minutes of laying down, and it's

831
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.079
I don't know how to describe the feeling, but it's

832
00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:03.039
like it's like we knew we couldn't talk, and we

833
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.480
just lay there, and then it got to where we

834
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:11.400
felt like we couldn't breathe. And I just remember whispering

835
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:16.360
to him and saying, if you hear anything, tap me,

836
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.320
and if I hear anything, I'll tap you.

837
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.000
He understood what I said.

838
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.719
I was just whispering to him, essentially, And I don't

839
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:27.800
really know how much time went by. It was it

840
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:31.719
felt like forever, and we're just gripping these machetes and

841
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.360
just laying there, and uh, the fire starts to go out.

842
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.559
I remember that it starts to get like just darker

843
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.599
and darker, and I'm like, great, that's like the last

844
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:45.280
thing that I need, and because you know, that keeps

845
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.119
the larger animals away and stuff.

846
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:48.639
And we had cooked.

847
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:52.719
Food and then you know, we have these you know,

848
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.079
people camping next to us. They're making a bunch of

849
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.679
noise and so maybe they drew them, like drew something in.

850
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:05.280
But I just remember getting this feeling like I really

851
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.599
am so glad that I warned this guy. You know,

852
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.400
he was from Florida, he'd never been camping before in

853
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.960
his life, and uh, it just so happened that I

854
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.400
told him about all this on the way. So we're

855
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.280
laying there. I've only told this story like two or

856
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:26.719
three times, and I'm just so glad that I have

857
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.039
someone with me at this point. I just remember thinking, like,

858
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.159
thank God someone's with me so that I didn't feel

859
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.880
crazy later. And so we're hearing nothing. We still feel

860
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:43.039
stalked and all that. Like I'm trying to like visualize

861
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.719
what happens in my head. I feel like that's normal,

862
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.880
but I'm a very visual person, so I'm trying to

863
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:51.360
figure out where this noise comes from. But it's essentially

864
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:57.079
like what I heard was like like branches moving out

865
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:01.800
of the way. It was like, and then just a

866
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.320
giant booh, like a thomp. Like The first thing that

867
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.400
popped in my head was just it's Godzilla, Like I'm

868
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.880
laying there on the ground in a tent and it

869
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:17.440
just shakes us. It shook everything. And when it happened,

870
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:20.559
I thought that something was like moving a bush or something,

871
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.880
and then it like jumped. But it took me a

872
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.679
year or two and I figured out. I think it

873
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:29.199
was in a tree and it like jumped out of

874
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:33.119
the tree, And that would explain if I felt something

875
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.639
looking at me when I looked out, I didn't look up,

876
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.599
I didn't look in the trees, and so when it happened,

877
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.840
I just We're on like a ridge, so there's only

878
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:47.360
like so many feet, you know, this way and that way,

879
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.480
like fifty feet this way, fifty feet that way, and

880
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.719
I'm just trying to figure out how close it is,

881
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:53.760
because it felt.

882
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:57.719
Like it was like six or eight hundred pounds.

883
00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:57.639
You know.

884
00:53:57.880 --> 00:53:58.400
It just.

885
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.719
Instantly looked at him, and I just said, we got

886
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:10.119
to go to the car. So two more things happened

887
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:11.880
before we went to the car. I kind of skipped

888
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:16.599
a couple of things, But so I was essentially praying

889
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.280
for the fire to come back on. I know it's

890
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.280
a really weird story, so but I was praying for

891
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.239
the fire to come back on because I know that

892
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:30.239
that would help scare stuff off. And then, you know,

893
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.519
I told him to bump me if he heard something,

894
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.480
and I'd bump him. And I'm glad I said that

895
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:38.360
because before the big shake, like before that whole thing happened,

896
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:43.440
we heard what sounded like fluttering. It was like, I

897
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.920
don't know how to explain it. It wasn't a per and

898
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.280
it was just like like and I tapped him.

899
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:50.800
He tapped me.

900
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.960
So I heard the flutter on my side. I know

901
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.119
this sounds crazy. I still have no idea what it was.

902
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:58.800
I don't know if it was related to Sasquatch, I

903
00:54:58.840 --> 00:54:59.119
don't know.

904
00:54:59.159 --> 00:54:59.840
But I tapped him.

905
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:02.280
He at me, so he heard the flutter on his side,

906
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.960
and I heard this little flutter on my side, and

907
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.519
then like, I don't remember if it was right after,

908
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.559
but like I just saw the brightest light and so

909
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:15.599
I'm thinking the fires back on, and I actually thought

910
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.320
it was that guy. I told you there was a

911
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:19.280
guy that came with the led light and it was

912
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.840
super bright. So I thought this guy was coming back.

913
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:26.159
That's how bright this light was. And then that's whenever

914
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.119
that thing like shook the ground, and so I told

915
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:30.480
him we got to go to the car. And so

916
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.400
we start to get out of the tent and like

917
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.360
the fire is just like completely lit up. When it

918
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.599
was almost totally gone, there was just smoke and ashes,

919
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:41.440
like we did not have a lot of time to

920
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:42.320
get any firewood.

921
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:48.599
And so you won't believe me, but I was so scared.

922
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.079
Halfway to the car, I realized I didn't even have

923
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:51.599
the keys.

924
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.480
He was so mad at me. I just, I mean,

925
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:56.960
I was so spooked.

926
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.760
I don't remember. I just I thought I was gonna die.

927
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.239
I don't know how to explain it to you. I

928
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.840
knew it wasn't a bear. I couldn't hear anything huffing

929
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:10.440
and puffing. I've been there before, and I knew. I

930
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.639
knew that something was stalking us. And the craziest part

931
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.079
about it, the story's not even over. We go sleep

932
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.480
in the car and I swear on anything, the Lord

933
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:21.960
could drop an ice cream truck on me.

934
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.519
Right now, I'm not lying. I can't lie.

935
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:33.119
I have autism, like I literally cannot lie. I didn't

936
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:35.480
go to sleep, like there's no way I'm going to

937
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.440
sleep after this. I didn't know whether to cry or

938
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.119
be excited. And I'm still living in the nightmare. I'm like,

939
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:43.800
I'm like, I know this was Bigfoot.

940
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:44.320
I already know.

941
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.280
And he goes to sleep and it's like two or

942
00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:52.079
three in the morning, and I swear on everything holy,

943
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:53.119
I heard whoops.

944
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.280
I heard the car back and forth.

945
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:59.559
And it was the loudest when people describe the whoops.

946
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:01.960
And I understand, I'm in Red River Gorge.

947
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.239
This was in twenty seventeen, so nowadays it's normal to

948
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:09.679
hear humans making calls back and forth. But in twenty seventeen,

949
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:15.239
like Sasquatch Chronicles podcasts, was barely making any traction and

950
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.199
people weren't whooping out there, and even if they were,

951
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.840
if you understand like the lung capacity of a human,

952
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.079
and you understand, like when you hear it, you just

953
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.440
know it's not a human. It echoed through like the

954
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:32.199
whole mountain range, like they were talking back and forth,

955
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:35.840
like miles away from each other. And I woke them

956
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.920
up and I said, I just heard them. Listen, listen,

957
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:42.960
and I heard tree knocks too. They there was like

958
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.559
two or three whoops back and forth, and then I

959
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.880
heard at least two tree knocks.

960
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.880
And the tree knocks they kind of sound.

961
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.679
Like sluggers, like at the slugger field whenever they hit

962
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:56.679
it so hard at like echoes.

963
00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:59.719
It's like that. And it's very fast.

964
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.559
It's like a kind of like a woodpecker type speed.

965
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.119
It's not like whack and they waited a couple of

966
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.559
seconds whack. It's not like that at all. It's like

967
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:13.559
the power. I don't know how to explain it. It's

968
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:17.519
it's amazing because it was so loud. It just echoedsack,

969
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:17.960
why why?

970
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.480
And it was always like five whack, why why?

971
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:20.679
Why?

972
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:20.960
Why?

973
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.400
And it just echoed and he heard it too, and

974
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.480
I just I just was so happy that he heard it too.

975
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.400
And then he tried to tell me this guy was

976
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.440
probably messing with me, but he said, I had a

977
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:34.000
dream that.

978
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:36.360
There was a sasquad. She's like looking in your window.

979
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:38.199
And I was like, bro, I haven't even went to

980
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:40.559
sleep yet. You can't be saying that kind of stuff

981
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:45.480
to me. But it was a crazy encounter. And I

982
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.119
don't see that guy a lot, but when I do

983
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:50.199
see him, we give each other a little look and

984
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.519
like we just have something that we really can't speak

985
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:53.800
on it.

986
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.159
Like we spoke on it on the.

987
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.679
Way home, and then one other time that week, and

988
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.039
now we really can't because it's like it doesn't do

989
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:04.800
us any good. It doesn't help, you know, people judging

990
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.760
us for something that. You know, I don't really know

991
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:10.519
if it affected me in a good way or not,

992
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.639
you know, because it just I've been out there like

993
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.440
two or three times since then, and I can't sleep

994
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:19.760
in a tent anymore. I tried to sleep in a hammock,

995
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.440
and I made it till the dust hit, and then

996
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.679
once the dust kids, it's like it just gets that

997
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.039
quiet feeling, and I just sometimes you just have to

998
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.639
listen to your intuition and to.

999
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:33.679
Your gut and you just have to get out of there.

1000
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:34.079
You know.

1001
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:38.559
You just never really know when something's stalking you. Sometimes

1002
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:42.000
you get lucky and you do know. But I really

1003
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:45.519
truly feel like that was definitely a bigfoot. And you know,

1004
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.280
after that year, starting that winter and following spring, they

1005
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:54.159
just started closing that road, the Chimney Top Road. And now,

1006
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:56.639
I mean it's been a few years since i've been back,

1007
00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:01.039
but they keep that road closed well until spring and summer,

1008
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.719
and sometimes they say it's just for like winter conditions

1009
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.239
for and I just don't believe it anymore. I think

1010
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.440
that there's a lot of encounters up there on that ridge.

1011
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:17.320
Wow, what an incredible account. I think you were guys

1012
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.400
were definitely being messed with up there. Thank you for sharing.

1013
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:25.360
Is it's impossible that I would be able to use

1014
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:28.960
this audio and podcast I have?

1015
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:31.840
Yeah, I sure if you want to, that'd be awesome.

1016
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.000
Awesome, Well, thank you for coming up and thank you

1017
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:35.320
for sharing either.

1018
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.039
How are you good?

1019
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.840
Are you good? Are you coming up to share a

1020
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.400
big foot encounter each had? Yeah?

1021
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.679
I mean it's not it's nothing too crazy, because I was.

1022
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:48.960
This was this past May. I was I'm in Ohio

1023
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:52.079
right now, but I was out in Gunnison County, Colorado,

1024
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:56.199
in Black Canyan National Park and that was with my

1025
01:00:56.280 --> 01:01:00.800
two buddies and we were walking up the trail and

1026
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:03.840
I mean, this is crazy to say, but we stopped

1027
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.159
because we thought it was going to rain and I

1028
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:08.480
look up the trailhead. My buddies are just looking up

1029
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:10.920
at the clouds because it's you know, dark gray skies.

1030
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:12.880
And whatnot.

1031
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.559
I just look up at the up at the trail

1032
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:19.760
and at least a seven and a half foot tall

1033
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:23.639
jet black creature just walks out into the trail, sees

1034
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.280
me looking at it, and from my spot it was

1035
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:31.480
probably like seventy five hundred yards away, fluidly bends down

1036
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:36.199
and hides behind the brush. And I didn't tell my

1037
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.840
buddies until we got back to the car because it

1038
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:40.400
was it was on the part of the trail where

1039
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.519
we had to walk back to the car. Felt like

1040
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.480
an eternity because you know, just walked down onto the trail,

1041
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:52.840
saw me, and fluidly bent down behind the brush.

1042
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:56.599
Were you able to see any of its face at

1043
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:58.599
all during that short amount of time.

1044
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:01.360
I was an because I was, you know, one hundred

1045
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:04.079
yards away. The facial features were too hard to make out,

1046
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.519
but yeah, definitely seven and a half feet tall, and

1047
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:11.760
the shoulders were real broad. But what draws doubt to

1048
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.159
my mind is that you know the color of it,

1049
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:16.159
and then we walked by where it was. There was

1050
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.199
no distinct smell like you know, you always hear that

1051
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.280
there's a dead animal smell or you know, some kind

1052
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.719
of skunk smell, but didn't have that experience.

1053
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.039
You were walking towards that area at the.

1054
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.519
Time, Yeah, we were, and you know, like I said,

1055
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:34.320
when we walked by it, I was just looking dead

1056
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.480
ahead at the trail, not looking around because I was scared,

1057
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.800
because you know, saw seven and a half foot monkey

1058
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.280
creature just standing in the trail. And when I got

1059
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.800
when we got back to the car, me and my buddies,

1060
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:47.880
you know, I told him that like, you're full of crap,

1061
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:50.639
and you know, I was dead serious, and they were

1062
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:55.760
all upset, you know, rightfully, so because you know, it

1063
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:57.519
could easily rip three of us apart.

1064
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:04.199
Definitely still see one hundred yards that's a few tennis

1065
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.159
courts away from y So you could, you know, probably

1066
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:13.639
see silhouette features for sure. Did you notice anything about

1067
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:17.199
the arms at all? As it walked walked across?

1068
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:22.000
It was walking pretty much on the same path as

1069
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.480
me kind of, So I mean I couldn't really make

1070
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:27.480
out any silhouette features because it was, you know, its

1071
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.480
chest was facing my chest, if that makes sense. I

1072
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:34.440
could just tell the width of it, and I.

1073
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:38.239
Was there anything that else that changed when you you

1074
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:41.880
saw it, like the sounds of the forest or anything

1075
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:42.239
like that.

1076
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:45.559
Not really I mean it was it was a really

1077
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.639
calm experience. I know that's odd to say, but that's

1078
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:51.840
just what it was, because it was kind of like

1079
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.480
a unicorn walked out. It wasn't destructive in ay nature.

1080
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.400
It just saw me, knew we weren't any threat, and

1081
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:01.480
then just it beyind the brush and my guess is

1082
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:03.079
it just walked back into the forest.

1083
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:09.000
Absolutely. Have you done any research after that to see

1084
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:13.000
if people have had similar things happened in the same area.

1085
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.039
I did. Yeah, I looked at the BFRO and saw that.

1086
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:20.360
I think it was in the late nineties. Two hunters

1087
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.760
had a similar experience in Gunison County with a you know,

1088
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:30.679
black creature that resembled Bigfoot. But yeah, other than that, no,

1089
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.800
I mean, a couple of weeks after we left in May,

1090
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.760
my buddy sent me something and some other people in Colorado.

1091
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:38.920
I don't know if it was in Gunison County, but

1092
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.519
it was. It was somewhat near Gunnison County they had

1093
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:42.440
an encounter as well.

1094
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.840
Interesting. Well, I appreciate you coming up and sharing what

1095
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:55.079
you experienced out there is to say, conversation I can

1096
01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:57.159
use in my podcast as well.

1097
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:58.199
For sure.

1098
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.440
Yeah, do you you just post them on your channel.

1099
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:01.079
I'm assuming.

1100
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.000
Yeah, so sometimes I'll do an episode where they'll be

1101
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:09.400
like multiple audio clips in it, people sharing stuff from

1102
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:10.280
around the country.

1103
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.800
So I gotcha. Awesome, Well, thank you for letting me share.

1104
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:21.800
Thank you. I appreciate you coming up going, Sir Tate,

1105
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.119
we were actually just talking a few minutes about doctor

1106
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:28.360
Meldrim earlier. Do you have any uh, do you have

1107
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:33.119
any stories you can share about spending time with doctor Meldrim?

1108
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:34.960
Is that something you could do? I don't want to

1109
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:36.480
put you on the spot, and I don't know if

1110
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:45.159
you're still here, but.

1111
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:48.599
H mm hmm, yes here.

1112
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:57.000
Going.

1113
01:05:57.639 --> 01:05:58.159
Can you hear me?

1114
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.000
Okay, yeah, you sound all right.

1115
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:02.760
I got a new phone case and it's like a

1116
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:06.159
waterproofs I didn't know my voice was coming in, So.

1117
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:13.559
Yeah, you's so good. So yeah, put on the spot.

1118
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.840
But do you have any I know you were able

1119
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:16.599
to spend.

1120
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:22.639
At least one day his office.

1121
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.320
Yeah. Well, I met him at the.

1122
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:30.039
At the fiftieth anniversary for the PG film a few

1123
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.400
years back. That's where I first got to meet him,

1124
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:37.440
and so he was he was really cool and I

1125
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.639
got to get his autograph. I gotta get I got

1126
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:43.800
a picture with well, actually photo bomb to picture with

1127
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:49.360
Meldrome and Cliff Brickman, Bobo and Bob Kimblin, and it's

1128
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:53.159
a that's a pretty funny photo bomb. So I look

1129
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:57.840
back on that pretty fondly. And then yeah, twenty twenty

1130
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:03.960
twenty two, Ron Re from Trailian Giants, Jonathan Easley, a

1131
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:10.400
Western bigfoot exploration and myself we're gonna film with Meldrum

1132
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:15.199
and his lab at over in Idaho where he's at

1133
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:20.800
in Pocatello. And you know, we were like keeping in touch,

1134
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:22.880
you know, trying to plan it, and he's like, oh,

1135
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:27.239
I I probably have like an hour before I have

1136
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:29.960
to go because I'm going on a trip, and so

1137
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.280
you know, we planned just doing it like an hour

1138
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.760
we got we got to his lab, and he ended

1139
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.000
up giving us more than.

1140
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:36.679
Like two hours.

1141
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:40.679
Like it was, he gave us way more time and everything.

1142
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.519
And he's such a nice guy and so he was

1143
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:51.320
super kind and very knowledgeable and like he's definitely an inspiration.

1144
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.119
To try and be a better researcher in the field.

1145
01:07:55.639 --> 01:08:00.199
And so I think Meldrum is gonna hopefully inspire are

1146
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:03.000
a lot of people to come. And I think it's

1147
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:07.679
far too soon that he passed, and so he'll he'll

1148
01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:09.000
be missed for sure.

1149
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:16.600
Oh, absolutely, extremely too soon for sure. Did he show

1150
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.439
you anything and his collection?

1151
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:22.359
Yeah, he got to see some stuff.

1152
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.840
It was more like just kind of I can't even

1153
01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:30.720
begin where to describe what to describe. It was like

1154
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:35.319
there there's like casts and hand prince there and he

1155
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:37.760
was like showing us some of those that he casted.

1156
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:40.319
I think he showed us the one he casted. He

1157
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:42.800
showed us some other original ones too.

1158
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.880
That was really cool to see and just kind of

1159
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:47.439
just pick his brain.

1160
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:49.359
A little bit about different things. Was awesome.

1161
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:57.720
Absolutely, And that's in one of your documentary episodes.

1162
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:01.800
Right, Yeah, that's the I think it's yeh. I think

1163
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.239
it's the third or fourth episode.

1164
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.520
Of the Sabbe series on my YouTube channel.

1165
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.159
Yeah, so guys, if you want to check that out,

1166
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.680
you just look up Sasquatch, search for save on YouTube

1167
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:24.479
or the anonymous YouTube channel and to either episode three

1168
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:29.439
or four they visit doctor. Thank you man for coming

1169
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.279
up and for sharing real quick. I appreciate it.

1170
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:38.199
Don't know if you can hear me.

1171
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:40.199
I can hear you? Sound great?

1172
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:40.760
How's it going?

1173
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:41.560
Oh?

1174
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:41.840
Good?

1175
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:42.199
Good?

1176
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:46.640
I got a story that happened recently. This is in

1177
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:52.039
the middle of the United States, near the Mississippi Missouri

1178
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:56.479
River metropolitan area, kind of on the edge of the area,

1179
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.560
but instead of nursery, a guy was going to check

1180
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:05.359
on some pigs. We had a snowstorm, about seven inches

1181
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:07.880
of snow. So he was going out like at five

1182
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.199
o'clock in the morning to check on his pigs at

1183
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.800
his nursery. He gets out there as the sun's rising,

1184
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:17.640
and as he gets there, he notices that there's footsteps

1185
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:22.079
coming from the direction of the river and they're super

1186
01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:27.359
spaced out, three or four toes on the footprints. They're

1187
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.840
huge footprints. They go all the way into where he's

1188
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.880
going to where the pigs are. He gets back there

1189
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:39.119
and there's like six juvenile pigs, but they were still

1190
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:43.640
pretty good sized, about seventy sixty to seventy pounds each,

1191
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.159
and they were all gutted with They had like a

1192
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:51.840
circular hole in their abdomen and they were completely gutted.

1193
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:56.520
And then he realized that the foot the footprints went in,

1194
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:58.600
but they didn't go back out, so he freaked out

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01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.199
and got out of there as fast as he could.

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01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:04.439
This guy, the young man told me. This is about

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01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:10.319
thirty years old, and I was checking out a car

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01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:13.159
that he was selling. That's how I met the person.

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01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:15.199
But I told him he was in an area where

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01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.479
there's been a lot of bigfoot sightings and he told

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01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:20.159
me that story. But I just think that I think

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01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.319
people need to realize that these things are really out there.

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01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.960
And I saw the evidence of the pictures of the footprints,

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01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:29.439
and I know he wasn't making this.

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01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:35.439
Up Missouri River, Midwest. That could be that goes for

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01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:38.000
quite a while, but yeah, something to keep in mind.

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01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.079
But yeah, it's where the Missouri, yes, sir, it's where

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01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.359
the Missouri and the Mississippi where they meet is where

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01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:46.760
we're talking about. We're talking about on the edge of

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01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:51.359
the metropolitan area there. So anyway, I just wanted to

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01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.000
share that because I think everybody needs to know.

1212
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:56.359
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

1213
01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:57.439
Thank you for coming up. Man.

1214
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:00.760
Oh you're welcome. Man, welcome to Sherry Up.

1215
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:02.159
Thank you, Hi there.

1216
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:02.800
How are you.

1217
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:04.920
Doing good?

1218
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.119
How are you good? What brings jimp?

1219
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:17.000
Well, this happened almost forty years ago. I was with

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01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:24.560
my dad and this was in just northwest of Kansas City, Missouri,

1221
01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:30.279
out in the county and we lived out in the

1222
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:35.119
county off of Gravel Road. To get home, we had

1223
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:40.079
to go over a little low water bridge and one night,

1224
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.439
me and my dad, it was night, we were driving home,

1225
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:47.760
it was raining. We rounded in s curve coming to

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01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.079
the low water bridge, and in the middle of the

1227
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:59.319
road was my dad called it a beast. But when

1228
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:03.479
it stood up, it was maybe six feet tall. I'm

1229
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:09.560
assuming a juvenile. But when we seen this, it was

1230
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:13.800
on all fours. But then it stood up on its

1231
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:17.319
hind legs and looked at us, and this is fifteen

1232
01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:21.000
to twenty feet in front of us, and then it

1233
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:26.199
just took off like three four steps. That was across

1234
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:30.680
the road and into the woods. And at the time,

1235
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:36.239
you know, Dad didn't think anything about bigfoot or anything

1236
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:39.560
like that. And back then, you know, if that's what

1237
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:44.399
you thought it was, you really didn't say anything. Well,

1238
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:48.840
a few months later, there was a cargo plane that

1239
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:54.079
had crashed less than a mile behind the house, and

1240
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.039
my dad went running through the woods and the creeks

1241
01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:00.159
to go down to see if he could help anyone.

1242
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:06.960
And long story short, he become overcome with emotion and

1243
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:10.079
had stepped back in the woods and he said he

1244
01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:13.920
had leaned against a tree as he was crying, which

1245
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:19.399
isn't like my dad, and he heard a footstep and

1246
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:23.399
when he looked up, he said that this thing was

1247
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.640
Dad was six foot four, three hundred and fifty pounds,

1248
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.960
and he said he felt dwarfed by this thing and

1249
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.279
it was just standing there, like two feet from him,

1250
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:41.079
just looking at him. And Dad said he was still crying,

1251
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:46.039
and when he looked this thing in the eye, he

1252
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.760
said he would swear it had a tear come down.

1253
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:54.199
And about that time, one of the firefighters hollered something

1254
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.680
and Dad turned around and looked at him. Then he

1255
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.319
turned back to where this this thing was standing and

1256
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.319
it turned around to walk away, and when it did,

1257
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:11.600
he said he counted twelve to fifteen others that was

1258
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:15.000
in similar size all turn and walked back in through

1259
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:22.880
the woods. And Dad, we lost him a little over

1260
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:27.600
five years ago. He didn't open up with me and

1261
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:33.520
had these discussions on this until about ten years ago,

1262
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:41.520
and he remembered everything, and strangely, I was about six

1263
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:46.600
years old, and yet my dad described everything that I

1264
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:51.720
remembered about the juvenile that we saw, and he went

1265
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:57.000
into the details of what occurred in the woods. And

1266
01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:03.159
after that night. There would be two or three times

1267
01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.000
a week when we'd come out of the house in

1268
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:10.520
the morning, there would be a boulder on our front

1269
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:15.560
porch that would weigh twenty to thirty pounds, And there

1270
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.439
got to be so many of them that would show

1271
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:23.359
up that my dad actually built a flower bed out

1272
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:28.680
of these boulders because he felt that whatever these were,

1273
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:32.359
we're bringing them up as a gift, that he wanted

1274
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:36.720
to be respectful, so he built the flower bed out

1275
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:40.000
of him. But I just kind of wanted to know

1276
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:41.119
your thoughts on that.

1277
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:44.239
So.

1278
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:49.399
It was the first off gifting thing. Yes, I I

1279
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:52.760
hear that all the time. Usually it's a lot weirder

1280
01:16:52.800 --> 01:17:00.880
than that. So totally totally on board attacks deciding dad

1281
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.800
was Was that also north of Kansas City, Missouri?

1282
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:12.279
Yes, where this plane went down was maybe one hundred

1283
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.880
yards from where he and I had seen the juvenile

1284
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.199
like two or three months before the plane crashed.

1285
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:26.000
Gotcha, and is this h I'm trying to think of

1286
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:28.920
like stuff north of Kansas City and Missouri, And the

1287
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:32.560
one that really comes to mind is an area called

1288
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:33.760
Monkey Mountain up there.

1289
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:34.600
Have you ever heard of that?

1290
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:45.319
I have? This isn't up there are you familiar with

1291
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:46.600
the area.

1292
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:48.399
A little bit.

1293
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.399
I mean, I live up in Central Iowa, but I'm not.

1294
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:53.239
The city.

1295
01:17:54.880 --> 01:18:01.439
Because if you take one two west and you're almost

1296
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.760
to the end of one fifty two and you come

1297
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:08.199
to Hampton Road, if you get off on Hampton and

1298
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:10.920
turn right, that takes you down to the Low Water

1299
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:12.920
Bridge and where this all took place.

1300
01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:21.640
Okay, that's extremely interesting. I mean, his story is super

1301
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:26.000
unique because seeing so many together at once. I've really

1302
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.319
never heard many accounts that are like that. Were you

1303
01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:33.920
able to get his story recorded or is it just

1304
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:35.079
your memories that you.

1305
01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:39.079
Haven't No, just my memories. He didn't want to go

1306
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:44.000
that far because he still felt that people would ridicule him.

1307
01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:45.680
Sure for talking about that.

1308
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:56.000
Wow, what an incredible account, de onion. It's not the

1309
01:18:56.039 --> 01:19:03.800
most wild thing I've ever heard. So yeah, I mean, also.

1310
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:06.840
Have you heard of a man named Randy Harrington.

1311
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:09.199
Yeah, Randy Harrington is a good guy.

1312
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:09.800
I've talked to him.

1313
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:13.520
Before you say I talked to him. I met him

1314
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:17.640
through a friend, and he wants to go to the

1315
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:23.039
area to do an investigation. So I will likely be

1316
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:26.399
joining up with him going back to the area and

1317
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:27.800
seeing what we can find.

1318
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.239
No, I think that would be a great idea. Randy's

1319
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:35.039
a really good guy, so I would totally totally recommend

1320
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.960
that that would be a cool investigation for sure. So

1321
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.439
do you have your own investigation group centers?

1322
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:52.520
We do, We've done a couple. I actually run a

1323
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:57.560
search and recovery team for missing people, but some of

1324
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:02.680
my team members have had each experiences as well. And

1325
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:07.399
one of my team members is a regional director for

1326
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:12.079
move On. Okay, so we're gonna team up and do

1327
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:15.319
some investigations on some different things.

1328
01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:25.960
Wow, that sounds extremely cool. Yeah, thank you so much

1329
01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:31.640
for coming up and for sharing your father's story. Is

1330
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:35.199
this a conversation I can put on my big Foot podcast?

1331
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:38.840
Yeah? Absolutely awesome.

1332
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:39.760
Awesome.

1333
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:43.279
I appreciate you coming up, sir, No problem, Thank you.

1334
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:46.560
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1335
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.640
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1336
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:52.720
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1337
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:55.399
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01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:58.760
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01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:22.079
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1356
01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:54.399
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1357
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